It Won’t Be An Accident: The Build Up to World War III

by | Oct 8, 2011 | Headline News | 236 comments

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    In Economic Apocalypse Goes Mainstream we opined that the financial, economic and political collapses occuring around the globe will eventually lead the industrialized nations of the world to war. The signs should already be apparent, especially in areas like the middle east, where the U.S. is vying for resource domination, monetary superiority and political control. As economies around the world implode, and citizens become more frustrated with their governments, things can quickly begin to spiral out of control domestically – regardless of whether you’re in the United States, China, Russia or Europe. As a result, politicians will do what they’ve done historically in such instances, which is to deflect responsibility (either out of fear or by design) from themselves onto others. Usually, this means leaders and citizens oceans away will get blamed for the malaise.

    Aaron Hawkins of Storm Clouds Gathering provides some key insights into the many variables that will ultimately lead the world into perhaps the greatest war in history.

    When playing chess the outcome of the game is usually determined in the early stages by the positions that are built up by each player even before the first pawn falls. These moves may seem innocuous to the untrained eye, but an experienced player can read the threats which grow and develop at each stage. They can see the traps which are being laid.

    Right now, the nations of the world are organizing and positioning themselves – financially, diplomatically, and militarily – for a struggle which will alter the global power structure irrevocably.

    It would be impossible to understand the economic collapse which is slowly unfolding, and the great war which wall almost certainly follow, without taking into account the stakes of this global chess game.

    World War III is not going to be an accident. It will not be caused by an unfortunate chain events that the U.S. struggles to avoid. It is a goal, a specific objective that must be reached in order to force a cultural shift that the population would otherwise never accept. It is only from this context that the events unfolding in the world right now make any sense.

    While we can’t predict exactly how or when such a war will take shape, it should be clear that game play on the grand chessboard is in full swing. The key players – which include national leaders and elite power brokers behind the scenes – are actively positioning their pieces, just as they did for the two decades preceding World War I and World War II.

    Surviving economic collapse and political instability may be the least of our problems.

    Hat tip John Rolls, Storm Cloud Gathering


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      1. A Mulatto, a Bisexual, a Marxist and a Psychopath walk into a bar.
        The bartender says “What can I get you Mr. President?”

        • A Gay Skull and bonesman, a Conservabot, Fake Christian, Psychopathic War Criminal Liar walks in a bar, the bartender says “What can I get you W Bush”?

          • Why are you even on this site if you are an Ozero bot when he is driving us in to a collapse faster than anyone?

          • Two heterosexuals walk into a bar. One, a proud patriot prepper with gold in hand and gun in belt… the other mumbling “it’s Bush’s fault”. Bartender says “Hi European American, I see you brought aeop with you!

            • Two Gay Athiests walk into a bar both are traitors and both of their mothers are whores. The Bartender says Hi Babble on and I see you brought w bush with you.

            • Aeop,
              What the f*#k are you talking about? You are NUTS!!!!

          • I like how the number 1 attack on any man with power and money is that he must be gay. Speaks volumes about American society.

            Yes, the world is secretly run by a homosexual conspiracy. Damn those homosexuals in the Bilderberg group and Skull and Bones and Illuminati and Free Masons! All secret homosexual cults that have been plotting to conquer the world and impose mandatory homosexuality!!!!!!!

            • What????,LOL

            • Err, no, that is not the norm.

              The only gay man that even comes close to having serious power is the new CEO of Apple (Tim Cook) who by all accounts is a nice guy.

            • Okay, okay, “gayomg”. You’re pissed at me. Excuse me. So my choice of words didn’t meet with your approval. I chose those four words for a specific reason, but I’m willing to consider an appeasement in this case, to you and who ever finds offense to the “questionable” term, that stood out like a sore thumb. How about, hmm, let me think… how about,,, instead of “Marxist”, I use “Communist” or “Socialist”, or both. Will that give you a sense of redemption, your royal highness?

            • Thats because everyone knows how Gays are pretentious an selfish, and most the rich blue-blood are breeding homo’s so the elite wont be around in 70 years or so, sucks to be you when you kill off your blood-line because you prefer a selfish life style of enimas and sticks. My grandchildren will be spitting on your ashes…

            • LOL…your wit is wasted on those that blame all bad on Obama and refuse to acknowledge Cheneys and Bushs lies and anti-American chicanery.

          • obviously another assclown looking to light up this site!

          • I got a price for George on all my ammo and all the stuff I have to make ammo.. he should come visit me and make me an offer he cant refuse

        • A very good video and well constructed, however it is so POORLY delivered it loses its effectiveness and the message is lost.

          Slow down, articulate.

          • This has all been planned a LONG time ago. Watch this video and listen to Gen. Wesley Clark retired:


            Now, type in your search bar “The Non Integrating Gap and the Core” without the quotes.

            Now type in your search bar “The Pentagons New Map” without the quotes. Read it and MAKE SURE you take a good look at that MAP.

            And… “The Project for a New American Century”.

            Friends, it doesn’t matter if it is a dumbocrat or repukocrat in power. They just follow the script laid out for them. Hell, the PATRIOT Act was written long before 911 and the largest security apparatus known to mankind … they just needed a CATALYST.

            Everything you see today is Problem, Reaction, Solution.

            Whether large or small … everything the government bestows upon us is done through a catalyst in one form or another. And I can assure you that TP’sTB believe that a massive catalyst will be beneficial to them. They have the advantage in that they are True Believers. Most of you don’t know what you believe in, but my gosh … you believe in … nothing, and everything. TP’sTB are focused. Most of you are but a shattered mirror stepping all over each other … and THAT is their advantage.

            And when the big gig happens, they’ll convince most of you to go patriotic and wave your flags, just like…

            It’s the same in any country folks. 😉

            Your “government” has studied every know security and propaganda apparatus in the world … and your “government is very … very … very good at it.

            And you think I am … crazy.

            And the joke is on you.

            • Very perceptive Curtis.

              That is the basic problem: focus. TPTB have it, the general public does not. This is the reason for all the diversions: TV, Entertainment, Political Theater. Its a type of divide and conquer where they never give the general public a chance to form any type of cohesive movement. Keep ’em all fighting about left/right, prodeath/prolife, RepubliCON/DemocRAT, Hawks/Doves, American Idle, Video Games, and on and on and on and on. Anything but about the real issues of freedom and The Republic.

              The general public knows it should be more cohesive but it keeps getting fed all these diverse stimuli. Consequently when something rises above the fray, the 9/11, they jump on it and support it even to their detriment (like the (un)Patriot(ic) Act).

              I know this because I fell victim to it. Now, I focus on what the beast really is: A corporate creation of the elites first put in motion by the US Civil War (which wasn’t really a civil war because it was a war between two DIFFERENT countries, but thats another story) and then focused into The Act of 1871.

              I believe the US Civil War was the first “False Flag” of sorts. A war, by design, with internal, misdirected information. I know this, because, 150 years later it is still confusing people. A war about financial gain and financial slavery. Certainly it was about slavery just not the kind in the high school textbooks’ rhetoric. In reality the slavery they promoted (not fought against) was the kind where we seem to un-slave the black race while we tax slave the entire nation. It was about equal opportunity enslavement. 150 years later less than 2% understand the US Civil War. 99% still say it was about the slavery of the black man. (…a political device used near the end of the war when people started to understand what it was all about…)

              While the populous was healing from the confusion and injury of the USCW they didn’t even notice that the government had been abandoned and replaced with a corporation with all the offices of the same name. The biggest ruse in history. Maybe not, but certainly in the top 10. While the government was barred from stealing from you by law (your liberty or your money) the corporation (I call it FedCo) could, at will. Not quite “at will” since FedCo needed to continue to appear to the public like our Constitutional Government to stop an uprising. (…cohesivity!)

              Fast forward a few generations and FedCo is getting bolder and bolder because people are so fully distracted by so much and varied stimuli that a cohesive understanding of what FedCo is has become nearly impossible. …and also because Americans have forgotten what true freedom is.

              If you wish to know more, go to the Indiana Republic’s Basic Training videos:

              Once you watch these, your focus will commence.

              For a little more wordy (and less video) go read this:


              Lets all get a clue and make stabbing the beast a priority. God Bless America and all that she stands for. (…or used to, anyways.)

              Another nice job, Mac. Concise and to the point. We sure do appreciate all the work you do for us! …for America. You and every other competent journalist should be in our prayers. Good luck and thank you.

              (Hey GC! How was that explanation?)

          • I think it was a good narrative and message, but I could barely understand shit he said.

        • gotta be the funniest line of the day!

        • @EA: Thanks for the good laugh!But dosen’t go: “A mullatto, a bisexual, a marxist, a psychopath, and a narcissist walk into a bar. The bartender asks “What can I get you Mr. Obama?”

        • dumbest piece of unsupported idiocy I’ve ever read. Congratulatings you’re the Simp of the Year.

      2. I have to agree that this is a true reason for this then. I do believe that we want some sort of global dominance and if we are loosing it then we have to act for whatever reasons these leaders are doing. I never thought of it that way only on spreading freedom but we are greedy and it all makes sense why and the hell would we stay in afghanistan that long. Makes no sense. but it really does. sad to say whatever happens im ready for all this to get on with it. we can take care of ourselves, a lot of people wont be able to. thats what makes this exciting times.


          • You should call Geek Squad to have them come get you a new keyboard, looks like your caps lock key is stuck.

          • Why are you yelling? Caps lock broken?

            • Caps don’t necessarily mean yelling as it did years ago—it just means serious intent to get the point across.

          • Quit yelling.

          • now that the physical reality of world wide events are coming to light to those of us seeking, the true awaking is spiritual. Prophecy will come to fruition, ripening on the vine now. only one thing proved this to me after diligently searching 23 years. there are countless delusions, at least one for each of us. all the ancient prophecies are so close, different names for simiLiar things. true meanings of the words we use have been obfuscated.

        • Maybe its because you either dominate or be dominated and one is far better than the other. It’d be nice to think it didn’t have to be that way, but doesn’t it.

      3. We can still try to wake as many people as possible up. Problem is i kno so many black folks in my hood or job other races too, but they seem to think it wont affect them, especial some of the christians, they seem to feel its in Gods hand but i dnt believe God would jus want us to sit by idly and do NOTHING. I think this is the BIGGEST situation in history hands down and i definetly want to be out there with all yall…….LIGHT UP THE DARK.

        • Tell them about Noah, the first prepper…God closed the door of the ark; not Noah.

        • Hi Ivo
          I’m black and a Christian. I believe in being prepared. My family is mixed and I live in rual northeastern Maine. Not many blacks here at all. We have almost nine months of winter, so unless you are raised here or love the area, you do not want to be here in the winter. Most of my Christian friends have the fairly tale belief that they are going to fly out of here before things get bad. And my non Christian friends just can’t seem to get their minds rapped around the idea that things could go so wrong that they’d have to take care of themselves. They think someone will always be there to save them. They just stare at me when I talk to them about prepping. I think deep down inside, it scares the sxxt out of them to think of a collaspe of the system. One of my daughters who was raised in Maine and now lives in NY keeps a bug out bag packed to grab and come home after experiencing 911. I ask her to contribute to the preparing I’m doing, she won’t. My other children just depend on Mom and family in Maine. I have faith in God, however my bible shows me that God warned people and told them to prepare many times.Of course our ultimate survival depends on the God. According to the word good wins over evil. But there are some bad times before the final showdown. So to speak. I did not be to belittle anyone’s belief in the rapture. It’s up to all of us to choose what we believe. May god help us all. Lynda

          Stay prayed up and keep prepping.

          • I’m a Christian. I’ve told church people about hyperinflation. They seem to believe it’s coming but they don’t see the need to prepare. Some people see preparing as a lack of faith in God. I see it as taking common sense precautions. There are other church people who think I’m crazy. I did what I can. I believe that the chaos will lead to the one-world government prophesied in Revelation. We have a year’s supply of food and water. We have guns and ammo. Kerosene heater and kerosene. Camp stove and coleman fuel. I didn’t start prepping until June. I saw Porter Stansberry’s End of America video. That woke me up. I could be wrong but I get the sense that the collapse is coming soon. I think it will happen this winter if not sooner.

            • “God helps those WHO HELP THEMSELVES.” (emphasis mine)

            • If you prep out of fear, then it is indeed, a lack of faith. I don’t blame Christians for not prepping in a food/water sense at all. The Bible makes it clear that you have nothing to fear if you put your faith in God. If you feel that you are lead to prep, than by all means.

            • How can a Christian argue with this?
              Matthew 6:25
              25 “Therefore I say to you, ydo not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26 zLook at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 Which of you by worrying can add one 1cubit to his 2stature?
              28 “So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not 3arrayed like one of these. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
              31 “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But aseek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

            • Farm Cat – Your Christian friends who choose not to prepare are missing an essential point. God takes care of people by giving them the realization they need to brace for the coming storm. It’s not about floating up to heaven, it’s about stocking up on food and necessary supplies and getting prepared both physically and mentally. God no longer sends messages on stone tablets from the mountaintop. The messages are delivered by members of this forum and countless other sources where good people are trying to sound the alarm. Please listen to WestVAFolks.

          • Lynda,
            I used to wonder if I was showing faith with my prepping, until I noticed that three times in Proverbs a scripture is repeated (with some variation) that says: “The wise man sees danger and prepares (or hides himself), while the simple keep going and suffer for it.”

      4. After seeing this…all I can think of is the book of Revelation. Everything has been building to this for a long time.

        Make sure your heart and soul is prepared. In the end that is what will really matter.

        May we have patient endurance and faithfulness.

        • Amen.

          • amen as well. we need to take care of what and who we can. shoot the bad guys and let us live a true free world.

            • It indeed would be nice. However, there are sociopaths who really need to dominate, so that’s the way it works. And then, of course, there are the people who are easily led, so that’s from whom the sociopaths get the support.

              And it’s always been that way.

        • This is truly the only answer!

        • Amen also, In the end however we are all alone and we must face the fact that no one or no goverment is coming to save us. We will be held acountable for our actions.


      5. This came from Northern Wyoming Daily News, out of Worland Wyo.
        Under the “Opinions” section, “Readers Views”-

        Objection from a former sailor

        To the Editor:
        I object and take exception to everyone saying that Obama and Congress are spending money like a drunken sailor. As a former drunken sailor, I quit when I ran out of money.

        Bruce L. Hargraves
        USN Retired

        • Double like!

        • Drunken sailors generally only spend THEIR OWN money.

      6. Bring it on.

      7. I dare say Syria, Iran, Venezuela could take us down and create an “end of the world as we know it” for their gain. Could they conquer us no; but they could create an end to our favored economic way of life and turn us into a 3rd world nation within a few days if they tried.

        • Turnoff your talmudvision. You have imbibed too much Israeli agitprop.

          In the face of great provocation and more lies, Iran and Syria have shown great forbearance.

          It is far more likely that Israel and its US lapdogs will start WW3.

          You did hear that, in response to the _US-Israeli_ attack plan, Putin warned his generals only a few days ago to “Prepare for Armageddon,” right?

          • I hope Isreal kicks all their ASSESts

          • The original source of the supposed story about Putin is Sorcha Faal.


            Learn about disinformation from Sorcha Faal at

            “Some of the most pernicious perveyors of disinformation are new outfits like the EU Times, that has no physical presence anywhere, or the mysterious untraceable Sorcha Faal, a pseudonym for a disinformation outfit that claims to have Russian sources.”

          • “It is far more likely that Israel and its US lapdogs will start WW3.” As it has always been.
            Totally agree with you, John Q.

            • Yes, “as it has always been.”

              “Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-conspirators) started World War 1.

              “Chosen People” (the World Jewish Congress’ 1934 declaration of war on Germany) started World War 2.

              “Chosen People” (genocidal Zionists) will start World War 3.

              “For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own coutrymen, even as they have from the Jews, Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men.” 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15

          • The usual brain-dead Nazi propaganda.

      8. I see a coming war in the Middle East. The Muslims have until Obama leaves office to destroy Israel without US interference. It doesn’t look like Obama will get reelected. That puts a deadline that isn’t that far away.

        I don’t buy the idea that a world war is coming. Wars don’t create prosperity. That’s a myth.

        • It’s called the war of Gog and Magog, it what’s for dinner!

          • Copout: I may be wrong but I thought that the war of Gog and Magog is after 1000 years of the rule of Christ. Did I miss something?

            • If you read the Left Behind series they have it taking place just before the Rapture. Other people have it happening during the Great Tribulation. Israel will be living in peace because Israel will sign a treaty with the Anti-Christ.

            • DK: That would be Armageddon.

            • @ Farm Cat

              Dispensationalist drivel.

          • Good! You read your Bible! All the answers are in there!

            • MANY of the answers are in the Bible; OTHER ANSWERS are in sacred oral tradition that has been preserved by the Church. That is, _IF_ you are a “Bible believer”:

              “Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by WORD, or by our epistle.”—2 Thessalonians 2:14

            • Either way Copout its SHTF.

        • Thought of this type of thing has kept me up at night for 3 years now. On Israel, though, I would disagree. Palestine was supposed to get statehood by the UN in September. Didn’t happen b/c the left is afraid of alienating the Jewish vote. Obama would probably throw his lot in with Israel for this sort of reason.

          Note, I do fear considerably the possible events between now and Nov 2012.

        • Wars create great wealth for those that furnish the war supplies and war supply accessories.

          • Maybe in the past the war mongers could profit. In a third world war scenario it is likely to quickly go nuclear. Modeling of even a small nuclear exchange – say between India and Pakistan, shows that it will impact globally through tons of soot being sucked up into the atmosphere (nuclear winter, collapse of food production, mass starvation, etc).


            If there is greater exchange then all bets are off for the survival of mankind – does not now much sodding ‘stuff’ you have stashed away as you would have to live underground for well over a year and when you emerge there will be little. Wealth in this scenario is meaningless as there would be nothing of meaning left.

            The other factor that is not normally built in is that there are over 400 nuclear installations over the world with used nuclear fuel containment ponds that rely on continuous power supply to cool the spent fuel. If a major war occurs then the grid systems will collapse and many of these installations will go critical very quick and flood the atmosphere with radiation – Fukushima x100, x200….take your pick.

          • War creates an entire new economy with no competition. Bombs, aircraft, guns, toilet paper, toothbrushes, shirts, boots, etc… Make it, sell it, destroy it, and do it all again. Look at us in Vietnam for 10+ years. Why?

            Politicians love it for the payola and power.

      9. How would they do that Jim?

        Most say by an EMP, I am not so sure about that idea. Is anyone else starting to have doubts zbout an EMP? Does anyone really know that this technology works? Have you seen it? I have seen the destructive power of a nuclear bomb. We have all seen it. That is what would scare me the most. An armed Iran or Syria. They could do a lot of damage with a couple of tactical nuke strikes to this country. 4 or 5 well placed detonations to cities in this country and we would be dealt a real blow.

        I don’t doubt the “idea” of an EMP bomb. I just have not seen it. Has anyone seen the devastaion of an EMP bomb? Any test videos out there? It’s all theory is it not? If we (the U.S.) have this technology, why haven’t we used it?

        What am I missing?

        • GC,
          First test by the United States was on July 16, 1945.

          In July 1962, a 1.44 megaton (6.0 PJ) United States nuclear test in space, 400 kilometers (250 mi) above the mid-Pacific Ocean, called the Starfish Prime test, demonstrated to nuclear scientists that the magnitude and effects of a high altitude nuclear explosion were much larger than had been previously calculated. Starfish Prime also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 1,445 kilometers (898 mi) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights, setting off numerous burglar alarms and damaging a telephone company microwave link.

          BTW there’s more/Source:

          Not to mention Iran’s long range missiles and nuclear aspirations have been all over the news. All it will take is a cargo carrier near our shores to launch one of the babies. Some experts believe as few as three would wipe out our entire national grid. (East Coast, West Coast, and Gulf of Mexico) I’ve heard other’s claim one long range missile with a nuke, over Wichita, KS would do the trick.

          • I doubt they would pin their hopes on one missle. Big downside if the strike fails.

            • Bend Over…

              How many nukes could Iran deploy if they follow through with their threats???

              September 27th, 2011 Iran Threatens To Deploy Warships Near U.S. Coast

        • What I can say without violating my non disclosure agreement is: google starfish prime and emp effects.
          A nuke in the ground or airburst has a very short range emp effect actually less than the primary effects. Take that same bomb and put it about 140 miles in the upper atmosphere and the released radiation causes a vortex effect on the ionosphere creating a magnetic pulse wave that spirals to earth causing a magnetic field that generates electrical current in any conductive material in the range of 50000 to 100000 volts.
          Microchips and electronics are designed to operate on mili volts to a maximum of 5 volts will burn out rendering it junk. Everything now has control systems that run on microchips. Cars, banking, medicine, manufacturing, large scale electricity generation, oil processing, food harvesting, etc will be shut down. Back to writing letters and talking to each other. Life revolves around technology now and people depend on it for everything, water, food, electricity, cars, jobs, money, heat, cooking, light and medicines, everything will be gone.
          Just do some research there is lots out there to check on the effects and causes of emp if you have a computer and internet. A coronal mass ejection can do the same thing if it hits the earth, one happened in the 1880’s and melted telegraph lines of 12 gauge wire so a microchip is toast. I’m doing this on a phone since my hardrive burned out 2 months ago, so its from memory the ultimate computer.

          • There are a lot of people fearmongering EMPs. The fact is most people don’t understand transients and EMPs. The unfortunate fact is that I do. …and because I do, most of the “information” on the internet is purely and simply bullshit designed to keep people reading.

            A properly placed nuke designed to maximize its EMPness would do a couple things that would be devastating:

            1) Know out the power grid. It might only knock out 10% of the grid but thats bad enough. It would take us years to recover. …and the really be distribution lines? Yeah, they’be be toast. Most of the equipment is protected, but, and EMP would be far more powerful and far reaching than a few lightning strikes and there for far more damaging. Figure this: a nuke with high EMPness and the power grid is toast.

            2) Any type of RF transmission equipment that either has long wires attached to it (Telephone cabling?) or a sizeable antenna array will be toast. Below ground will help but not much. Essentially, all the radio transmitters, DSL DSLAMs, etc will be toast.

            If the nuke is close enough to fry your ECM of your vehicle, you’ll be far more worried about the blast and radiation than you will about the EMP. Hello? Its encased in aluminum, the wires aren’t that long *AND* there is this thing call a “body” that your car as. its steel and all connected together? Its a pretty good RF shield and therefore a pretty good EMP shield.

            Much like lightning causes electrons to migrate, so will an EMP only to a magnitude of 10 or maybe even 100. But, regardless, most things that don’t provide a conduit for the electrons to flow from one place to another will be spared.

            I could go into great detail about how all this works, but, suffice it to say that if you have your system unplugged it will definately be OK. Same with everything else.

            But, the big problem will be getting the electricity to run stuff. Any EMP damage will take years to repair. Better have a generator and a bunch of gas, know how to use it and know how to conserve fuel.

            Don’t believe much you hear about EMPs. Its mainly fearmongering.

        • GC: While EMP is one of the results of a high-order nuclear detonation, it is also an effect of plasma storms on the sun. I do not recall the year, a little Googling should do the trick, in the 1800s we experienced just that, in a world where power lines were used for little more than telegraphs. The result was fires in the telegraph offices.

          Imagine the effect of EMP in a world where your body is just about the only thing that isn’t connected to the grid.

          Immediate: semi-permanent/permanent loss of electricity, all non-shilded electronics permanently cease to function (automobiles,aircraft,communications,medical equipment, etc), and more…

          Short term: death of all of those who are dependent on medical equipment for their lives, confusion for those who do not recognize the effects of an EMP.

          Longer-term: riots (no police – no communications and no autmobiles), death (no EMS, no running water, no sewage pumps, etc.), raging fires (no Firefighters, no running water), etc…
          You get the picture.

          According to NASA, this is comming again (2013-2014) – Google can help here to I think.

          As far as an EMP from a nuclear weapon, yes, it is real, yes is is EXTREMELY destructive, however, there are problems with this situation:

          First, the weapon must be strong enoguh (not that difficult to obtain).

          Second, it has to be deliverable (realistically, there are very few nations capable of delivering a nuclear weapon to the edges of space – this is where it would have to be for the EMP effect to cover a large-enough area to cause the desired effect.

          Third, if a weapon detonated that high in the atomosphere, we will see none of the “nuclear” effects down here aside from the EMP – a little research on nuclear-theory physics and high-altitude winds will help you understand.

          Furthermore, in reality, the only reason for the use of such a weapon to produce an EMP is to disrupt and confuse prior to putting boots on the ground. If there is an EMP “attack”, and there are not foreign boots on the ground within a 72hrs, it was a false-flag event – this is the most likely scenario (due to the difficulties in delivering a weapon to the required altitude, constructing such a weapon and getting it past our security, and, of course, the obvious reponse from the US if attacked with a nuclear weapon is a nuclear strike – very few are that stupid). <- on that note, anyone ever wonder if 9/11 were not a false-flag event, why our response was so limited? Prior to 9/11 the last time our country was attacked from the outside, causing that much death and damage, was 7 Dec. 1941 – as a result, we invented the most devastating weapon man has ever concieved of and we used it..twice!

        • Syria or Iran aren’t going to launch nukes against us. We’d wipe them off the map. The real problem is terrorists smuggling nuclear bombs into the US and then setting them off in US cities. We wouldn’t know who did it.

          • The only “terrorists” capable of doing that are black ops teams from major nuclear nations. That said, if it served their agenda, they’d do it. What a rallying point, what a way to distract the restless masses from their economic woes… Looks a cert to me.

            • I wish that was true. But it isn’t. There ARE terrorists that are perfectly capable of committing nuclear terrorism…..I can think of a few(P.S. many Islamist terror orgs were midwifed by certain Western intel agencies.)

          • Of course not, and why would they? Just send a few hundred insurgents across the southern border.

            • That happens everyday…

        • The USSR tested one. It worked, over the area that they limited it to.

        • GC would it really be that hard? On the eve of Thanksgiving a couple of hundred insurgents in-groups of just a few start by striking water supply systems in targeted areas. Small explosions, most of them done by remote, and then later on turkey day electrical outages caused by massive transfer line failures. As american shoppers line up for Friday shopping before markets and banks open there are dozens of car bomb explosions killing thousands while first responders are ambushed and fires rage with no water. Markets/ banks don’t open, malls close and the biggest shopping day is lost. Next Syria, Iran, Venezuela demand a vote of OPEC and it’s rules are changed in members will no longer take dollars. Mortar attacks strike refineries in Mexico and explosions rock the alaskan pipeline and Canadian lines to America. Banks remain closed on Saturday, and new smaller attacks and sniper events close grocery stores and gas stations across America.

          What do you think Monday would look like?

          • What would Monday look like?

            Ummm…Another false flag op blamed on the CIA’s “Muslim” Al Queda operatives, but not blamed on Israelis dancing for joy at their video vantage point.

          • Our first day of firearms for deer season begins on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. If all that happens like you said, I’m still going to be in the woods knockin’ them down regardless. The missus knows how to hold down the fort till I get back.

            • Yes Sir me too as the log cabin on the hunting ranch should be done by this friday. I too shall be out for some Bambi for the freezer, and who knows if porky the pig cames out well thats good too. Now thats good eats.


          • I’d be very concerned about domestic terrorists myself. Some of these groups DO have sympathizers who are either now within certain branches of the U.S. government, or who were once part of and/or associated with them. Two people I can think of are David Duke and one Robert ‘Bob’ Whitaker. You may know of the latter thru his “Anti-Racist is anti-white” B.S. schtick…..the former was once associated with CIA front Air America.
            And yet, if such an attack were to happen, disinfo agents and useful idiots everywhere would be quick to blame leftists, or Israel, or ‘Luciferians’, etc., and sadly some people would actually buy into the lies and deceit.

        • An EMP explosion IS a nuclear bomb. The result of the explosion is an Electo-Magnetic Pulse. They would detonate it at high altitudes for maximum effect.

        • GC,
          EMP is real, or at least the military fears it and spends lots of money trying to figure out how to shield equipment from its effects. I have a family member that works for Boing on a contract to the US military and thats all he does all day long is analyze the effects of manmade EMP attacks on military hardware.

      10. I’ve been saying for years how Nostradamus said Europe will be invaded by Muslims after S Europe gets flooded.

        • Nostradamus made a lot of vague predictions that never came true.

          • Curiously, Nostradamus predicted that during the end times war, that England would have a King named William and his brother Harry would be a military man who would be killed in that war. Then the nation would mourn.

            I read that more than 40 years ago and remembered it as a sign of the end times. I have followed that prediction with a keen eye towards current events. Sometimes, life imitates prophecy.

            I did not however, read it in the original French. 🙂

            • you didn’t miss much it was about as bland as they are…..

          • You’re right. Nostradamus didn’t include quatrains saying Muslims wouldn’t go to war with Europe? Try reading for yourself before you spout ignorance.

      11. My prediction is that either Iran or one of the socialist nations will use 1 nuke to take us out EMP over Kansas Nebraska border will shut this country down forever. Within 6 months this country will destroy itself, the book one second after gives a good idea of what will happen. Its a little optimistic on the survival rates, the studies I worked on for the navy showed a 20% survival rate within 6 months if done mid summer. Harvests will not be picked, no food shipments to the coasts total chaos. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

        • Wont happen. Well nuke them.

          • Our glorious messianic greater than the little people has already said he would not and will not use nukes in defense or retaliation for any reason (during the removal of the anti missile systems in Poland). We are led by a pro marxism pro islamofascist who is leading us down a path to being destroyed while making his friends freaking tons of our money. GE, solyndra, soros, muslim brotherhood, acorn, the banks, federal reserve, trumpka and the unions and any other socialist group. If we get nuked he’ll declare martial law and suspend elections out his people in charge everywhere. Nukes are an area effect device with a high cost effectiveness but if its only 1 to 20 nukes it is recoverable within 5 years. Any more or an EMP it may not be possible to bring the country back. If we are seen as weakened enough the Chinese will roll over Taiwan, the pacific, possibly Australia, and most of Japan will be conquered by China. The Arabs will level the Israelis and establish their caliphate and that’s it for oil, Africa is done, Russia will roll through Europe.

        • You know, I dont think it will be a nuke, I pray to the good Lord that it isnt. That will put a big strain on just trying to survive the upcoming disaster.
          I am not saying that it wont be a strain, but I feel I can feed my family and keep them warm if the SHTF. A nuclear war will make that darn near impossible. I shudder to think what that would do to this world. It isnt perfect, but it is manageable.
          I really think it is gonna be a disruption in the power grid, by terrorism or not, by physical or internet disruption I cant tell you. I do know the panic that will happen if the power goes out for a few days. It will be CHAOS.
          We cant prepare for everything. All we can do is trust in God and do everything in our power to survive. Ivo said something in an earlier comment about Christians just believing in God to handle everything. Well, they are fools if they believe that. God never promised an easy ride on the world, just that he will help us out in some way if we ask (it never seems to happen the way we think it shoudl. Grin) He did promise he would be there for us and that if we believe in Him, the next life will be great. So that is all I do. Trust in Him, believe in Him, follow His rules to the best of my abilities and protect my loved ones the best I can. He said the first two greatest things we can do is to love Him and love our neighbors.
          Be safe all, keep prepping
          OK enough doom and gloom. GO TIGERS, GO LIONS, GO WOLVERINES.

          • It would warm my heart to see more “preppers” with your perspective, another Jim. If the many “prep per” blogs are an accurate indication, there are too many blood thirsty “preppers” to expect a decent society to rise from the ashes.

        • Were you a bubblehead nuke?(I was a bubblehead corpsman)

          • Stuck on a bird farm, the Carl Vinson then 6 months at shipyard in bremerton wa with a rebuild team and a few other projects for pentagon brain teasers.

            • Stuck on Ronald Reagen and now boxed in at the The Center for Strategic & International Studies (CSIS), wishing for a normal life

        • Considering a congressman let it be known our transformers are made overseas, and requires 6 months AFTER order, we are screwed…I’d say!!

        • i think that we’d have much more chance off a super-pandemic (that everyone outside of the .05% isnt imune to. think about it, everybody dies, and leaves the resources and toys intact.

        • Gotta agree with you there on the book, MM2. One Second After was like the show Jericho…only with all of the issues on hyper-drive. That one kept me up all night reading and at my age that is quite a feat. 0.0

          Especially given the survival rates you are talking about, people need to think this one through. They might be one of those 20%. I hope everyone with kids can get them to watch Jericho all the way through…seriously. At least they can see what things might look like, even the Hollywood version. I worry about our I-everything generation….even the good kids who work hard and care about generally important things. This show made mine sit up and take notice. What, life could be like THIS?! Yup. Makes them realize why people prep, too. Haven’t watched TV much in forever, except for sports…but this one (even with its flaws) put a picture in my head and the head of my kids of what life could look like. One episode deals with EMP. Whenever I need a good kick in the butt to get going with preps…I re-watch the first episode or so of Jericho and read SHTFplan. Thanks Mac and all here.

        • There a difference between fiction and reality. Try to grasp the difference.

      12. There is not much time to prepare for what is coming very soon upon man and the face of this world. If any should value the true and good things then prepare for the worst because that is yet to happen. Pray for the best because that is hope. Trust God and Jesus because that is the way.

        Almost everyone will fall at one point in this that comes. The thing to ask is how do we live until that time. Will one focus their energy on worldly things and the end of their mortal life and yet not on living a good and moral life?

        It seems that peoples lives are all about the power, the control, the taking, the money, the stuff, etc. These are only a few of the reasons for all of the evils that are and are yet to come.

        The answers are right in front of our eyes to everything but it does seem that most are blind. Or maybe most just choose to ignore. Whatever the case; It is for the most part personal choices made and to be made in all our individual lives that will bring the end.

      13. @God, In July of 1962 the US Navy detonated a nuclear bomb above Johnston atoll in the Pacific Ocean. The resulting EMP wave knocked out the electrical grid as well as disrupting telephone calls between the islands in parts of Hawaii. This test was known as Starfish Prime. If you google the name you will get all the info you need. The Phenomenon of EMP has been studied in great detail in the private sector as well as by the military.

      14. The key photo missing was George Soros.
        BTW ~ Who’s the older man at 54 seconds???
        (After the picture of Bernake)

        • David Rockefeller was the photo after Bernanke and Paulson @ 0:54.

        • I think it was ( spelling wrong ) zbignew brazinski ?
          But maybe not..

          • brezinski was in there

          • Can’t fault you on spelling there. Could use that one for a spelling bee tie-breaker.

        • David Rockefeller (99.9% sure)

      15. WW3 would be a nuclear holocaust, leading to a ‘Mad Max’ world. Anyone who thinks our politicians would deliberately take us there is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Get real.

        • If the US government “wouldn’t deliberately take us there,” why do they engage in first-strike “pre-emptive” wars? Why do they plan attacks like the one described here?

          The US government is made up of many people who are willing to murder even US citizens. For what possible reason would you trust such monsters?

          • By golly you’re right. We have leaders who recently decided to kill a US citizen, without due process, in a very expensive mission. It was justified because he was a terrorist. And the mission was signed off on by TPOTUS

            • I believe it is now customary to abbreviate the title of the guy from Kenya as simply “POS.”

        • exactly right, even nut jobs like Stalin,Kruschev didn’t want to start tossing nukes around. No one wants to die, not even whack jobs.

          • Actually, we do have plans and conditions for using nukes. For instance, if we get involved in the Straights of Taiwan and the Chinese sink one of our carriers, we will nuke their entire naval fleet, or so the plan goes. Using nukes does not necessarily mean a full blown nuclear war. It will more than likely be limited and tit for tat. But we don’t even want a “limited” nuclear exchange… do we.

            But then again, all those “nut jobs” aren’t building underground bunkers because they thunketh a massive meteor shower is on its way.

      16. ww3 (if can call it that) will be fought at sea. due to the treaty with russia there will be no nukes in this but there will be bio and chem weapons. any nukes will be set off in middle eastern or south american 3rd world countries and NO ONE will claim them. for if we actually nuke someone it will be seen as an open invite to nuke the fatherland, excuse me…homeland.

        the next war weill be mainly on 3 fronts. the cyber front, the sea and space. they will try to shoot down orbiting sats.

        china and russia are making subs like no tomorrow. the next war will be heavy for the navy.

        • This is an interesting comment. Can you imagine how disorganized we’d be without satellite guidance? (weapons, communication, direction, observation)

          • No direct TV!!!

        • Since it is going to be a cyber/sea/space war, that would explain why they have amassed about 4,000 tanks near Iran, right?

        • I do remember reading a long time ago that the dominate warship of WWIII is expected to be the submarine, just as in the last one the aircraft carrier replaced the battleship as the dominate naval weapon.

        • Treaty? You honestly think treaties are going to mean squat in WWIII? Desperation causes mankind to do stupid things. Strategically and militarily, limited nukes make perfect sense depending on a given situation. We all know what the reason given to us for dropping the bomb on Japan. And it will happen again. For instance, if that Naval superiority of ours was lost through attrition … we will use that damn bomb. If we start taking MASSIVE casualties on the battle field … we’ll use that damn bomb…

      17. OH here we go with the WW3 articles again……oh gee we haven’t been reading these since 2004 now have we?

        • Oh great someone using my name again…

      18. Might I suggest a little K103 for your prep stash if you don’t already have some.
        I did some research awhile back and I seem to recall it last far beyond it’s shelf life.
        They also make a dosage for kids as well.
        A good “Prepper Lie” for those of us that are scrutinized by friends and family members,
        Is which ever Nuke plant is upwind from you.
        Yet again,
        Had enough good news for the day.
        Guna watch Sponge Bob, with the kids.
        Happy preppn

      19. The buildup will be intentional. The trigger will be a Black Swan, like the Archduke Ferdinand’s motorcade accidentally stalling in front of Gavrilo Princip. The fit will hit the shan, and the people who thought they were in control suddenly find out otherwise.

        • The success of the Black Hand Lodge conspirators may have been partially due to the royal motorcade’s stall, but the conspirators were ready in place, no accident of fate.

          There is some very interesting background (hopefully interesting to you, Old Coach, since you already know some details) to the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand having to do with the conclave following the death of Pope Leo XIII in 1903.

          Here is the short (well, maybe not that short) version. A Freemasonic infiltrator, Cardinal Secretary of State Rampolla (then second in power only to the Pope), was elected on the first ballot. The Cardinal Patriarch of Krakow Poland, Cardinal Jan Puzyna de Kosielko, arose to nullify the election of Rampolla on behalf of the Austro-Hungarian Hapsburg Emperor Franz Josef, legitimate successor to the Holy Roman Emperor. That privilege of the Holy Roman Emperor was nearly forgotten because it had been unused for nearly 500 years. The Cardinal Patriarch provided the astonished conclave with a dossier compiled by Msgr. Jouin, a famous Vatican archivist. The dossier proved that Rampolla was a Freemason, a sworn enemy covertly, but actively, engaged in the destruction of the Church.

          About 10 years later, to ensure that there would never again be a Holy Roman Emperor to invoke privilege against them, to ensure they would never have such secular opposition in attempting to overthrow the Church, the Freemasons assassinated Crown Prince Archduke Ferdinand, thereby igniting World War I against the last Catholic Empire.

          Received history readily reveals the main assassin, Gavril Princeps, and his Freemasonic “Black Hand” Lodge co-conspirators as “anarchists,” but establishment history is not so forthcoming that 4 of 6 of the assassins were “Chosen People.” (Establishment history is notoriously deficient in also failing to teach that the World Jewish Congress declared war on Germany in 1934.) On the death of Emperor Franz Josef in 1916, the saintly Karl was raised to the two Austro-Hungarian thrones. A holy and charitable man, Emperor Karl immediately sued for peace, but the Freemasonic Prime Ministers of Britain and France repeatedly rejected his surrender. They stated that winning the war was not their main objective, but the destruction of the last Catholic Empire. From the time of his first offer of peace in 1916 until war’s end in 1919, _11 MILLION_ more men were unnecessarily killed or wounded in the Freemasons’ “Great War,” their horrific blood sacrifice to Moloch of the world’s youth to obtain the destruction of the last Catholic empire.

          What followed WW 1? Perpetual war, genocide, and other crimes against humanity such as was never seen in Christendom.

          As the name implies, the whole world was affected by World War 1. For Catholics, there are other important points of that history.

          In 1903, by the grace of God, instead of Rampolla, Cdl. Giuseppe Sarto/Pope St. Pius X ascended to the Chair of Peter and the faithful Cardinal Merry del Val became Cardinal Secretary of State. Tragically, Rampolla’s influence continued through much of the 20th century due to the influence of Rampolla’s protégés, Della Chiesa (Benedict XV), Pacelli (Pius XII), Roncalli (John XXIII), Montini (Paul VI), and Pietro Gasparri (Cardinal Secretary of State 1914-1930). The banking families of Pacelli and Montini were also connected to the Rothschilds. Instead of the usual school and seminary training, from childhood both Pacelli and Montini were tutored under the personal direction of Rampolla. They were so tutored until their last two years before ordination. Rampolla’s work culminated in his protégés’ considerable destruction of the Church wrought at the Second Vatican Council.

          • You make some very interesting assertions that I’ve never heard. Then again, I am not a historian. I would like to learn a little more about your views and sources that I could make a better informed decision as to the genuiness of your claims.

            Contact me @ OrygunTransplant@ Yahoo dot com

      20. I’ve been on the prep bandwagon for some time now. Preps for protection, monetary hedging, food, water, housing, etc.

        I advise all to prepare spiritually as well. Look to God, in spite of what life’s hard lessons may have taught.

        Let’s prepare for this life while we are in it, but let’s also prepare for the life after.

        • No such thing. Try to fix this world because there isn’t another one full of magical fairies that you’ll be whisked away to after death.

          Sorry to break it to you. Someone probably should have told you this a long time ago, like when you found out Santa Claus wasn’t real.

          • I don’t believe ScoutMotto was referring to “magical fairies” in the next life, but to the great I AM…

        • You also need a way to heat your home and cook your food. Expect electricity and public water distribution to fail.

      21. You can prep for hard times. You can buy gold, silver, diamonds and anything else. You can move to Tim-Buck-Too and get 40 acres and a mule, carry a gun 24/7 and bring your extended family with you; all doable, all possible. Prepping for a nuclear WWWIII? I give up, surrender, call it quits. You got me. It simply just ain’t worth it. Mad Max movie? Like it would be that good. No thanks. Maybe 30 years ago….then again…probably not too viable then either.

        • Well Kevin2, today every nuclear nation except Iran, and North Korea have neutron bombs that only kill people and the radiation mitigates in a short period of time.

          You don’t think it was an accident that China “got” the plans for OUR L88 neutron warhead do you?

          It is anticipated that nuclear war will eventually break out; which is why the corp has all of those underground bases.

          • Sure, they HAVE such bombs, but it is well known that most nations use the dirtiest of dirty nuclear weapons specifically because they kill more people and leave the radiation behind. This is not an accident. It is possible to build relatively “clean” nuclear weapons, but the military was never interested in them.

            Do some research on the matter, there is a good expose about all this written by one of the first people to make most details of nuclear weaponry public. The vast majority of nuclear weaponry on Earth is the “dirty” kind that kills the majority of its victims through radiation.

            • does it really matter??? Dropping anything that destructive be it clean or dirty is called getting the job done…

          • Well regardless of the weapons employed neutron, hydrogen or fission the aftermath would be horrific. Long term survival would be an exercise in futility for me.

            • One thing that really upsets me is to think that all meat will be immediately overcooked. No more moist cedar plank salmon or bloody, medium rare ribeyes.

              If that’s the new world I’m not going!

        • Our Blessed Mother has warned that, as a chastisement for mankind’s evil, the greater part of humanity, the just and the unjust, will die from “fire from above” and that there will be nowhere to hide.

        • And that is exactly what they will count on. Bringing you to your knee’s and then saying … do we have a plan for you! And guess what? Out of the chaos you will take it right up the canal … because anything … ANYTHING … is better than THIS.

      22. As I’ve said before in many other posts, there will be war. It is coming. Where ? pick your location.. the Middle East, South Asia, Eastern Europe.. perhaps here.
        When ? soon. War is inevitable.. too many PTB are loosing their grips on power and too many places in the world are turning to anarchy. In every area, in every location there is nothing but turmoil.
        Personally, I expect that we may be taken out of the picture by an EMP.. it would devastate our country. Our armed forces would have to be recalled just to keep order and protect what little would be left.. but we will just have to hide and watch.. we will see what will be.

        • In view of the comparably worse horrors of other scenarios,* an EMP attack could be considered “getting off easily.”

          *Read the chapter on radiation poisoning in any basic radiobiology text, e.g., Chapter 8, “Acute Effects of Total-Body Irradiation” in Hall EJ & Giaccia AJ. Radiobiology for the Radiologist .

      23. IMO – we are almost toast. There are very few countries which would even consider attacking us directly; conventional or nuke.. the reprisal would be unimaginable. A single nuke, disguised as a satellite would send us instantly back into the dark ages.. and us with 350 million + mouths to feed. China did not start trade with us for our money; they are over a 5000 year old culture and patience is their mark. They started trade with us to get our technology and we have willingly, eagerly given it to them. We have built their factories and trained their people. Their real technological level is at least comparible with our own now. We have seen to that. They did not want our money, but while it has value they have and will use it to acquire physical assets around the globe. The transfer of power is almost complete. Technology, in this world, is power. It would be very unlikely that they would ever attack us; there are too many other insane countries more than willing to do so.. all they need is the means. China does not need us any longer as a trading partner; they have over 1 billion potential customers within their own borders and several billion more in India and the rest of the world. There will come a point in time, soon I think, when they will have achieved enough of their goals that we are dispensible. One big EMP burst from above and we are off the world stage for decades; if not permanently. There would be no retalliation feared because either we would not know who did it or it would be done by proxy. China would not care.. they have want they sought from us and they will win the war without even fighting it.

        • The Chinese might not have all they want from us…

          The following is a transcript of a speech believed to have been given by Mr. Chi Haotian, Minster of Defense and vice-chairman of China’s Central Military Commission.
          The speech argues for the necessity of China using biological warfare to depopulate the United States and prepare it for a future massive Chinese colonization. “The War Is Not Far from Us and Is the Midwife of the Chinese Century” was published on February 15, 2005
          Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization. Only by using special means to “clean up” America will we be able to lead the Chinese people there.
          Therefore, we will not hesitate to fight a Third World War, so as to lead the people to go out and to ensure the Party’s leadership position. In any event, we, the CCP, will never step down from the stage of history! We’d rather have the whole world, or even the entire globe, share life and death with us than step down from the stage of history!!! Isn’t there a ‘nuclear bondage’ theory? It means that since nuclear weapons have bound the security of the entire world, all will die together if death is inevitable. In my view, there is another kind of bondage, and that is, the fate our Party is tied up with that of the whole world. If we, the CCP, are finished, China will be finished, and the world will be finished.

          Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. There has been rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio weapons have been invented one after another.

          Seems there are madmen everywhere….

        • Actually we didn’t give them much, they took it using armies of hackers to invade private company networks, steal data, and send it back to their country. Hackers over there are motivated by patriotism, to help China grow financially. They steal our technology and other intellectual property for that purpose at a level that is only now beginning to become public in the West.

          Despite this, they still aren’t at a level of parity with the West technologically. They’re getting there. I’ll give them a 1940’s level of technology vis-a-vis America.

          • Let’s give credit where opprobrium is due. It was not hackers, but Bernard Schwartz, CEO of Loral and “Chosen Person,” that sold (yes, for personal and corporate profit) cutting edge missile and satellite technology to China in 1995.

            • And his being Jewish matters why, exactly? I smell a disinfo agent…….

          • Sorry GI J – they are NOT at a “40’s” level of technology. They have already placed the first module of their own space station in orbit. If you are familiar with military grade hardware ( I mean screws, nuts, bolts ) you will see that many of the consumer products being shipped are in fact produced using Mil Spec hardware. If they can make a reliable DVD player, which they can, the laser technology for a DVD player is readily transportable to military applications. A very large % of all printed circuit boards are now made in China. A very large % of all electrical components for those boards are also made exculsively in China. I have a friend who manufactures PCB’s and he has to buy almost all of his raw material from China. I ain’t what it used to be.

        • Sam not sam says:
          October 8, 2011 at 9:59 pm “IMO – we are almost toast”

          When you see that really bright flash then we will be burnt toast.

      24. Some of you are limiting the possible bad guys.
        Our own CIA is very capable of setting off nukes just to get us into a War with our enemies! It’s been done before!

        • Put nothing past the elites of the New World Order. If wiping out an American city is what it takes to control us, that’s what they’ll do. It won’t be New York or any other major city, it will be some mid-sized city chosen based on some other criteria we can only guess at.

          However, it won’t be necessary. The main stream media has enough of a grip on the mind’s of the sheeple that they can simply do a 6 month build up to nuclear war with Iran.

          • I’d posit that the city will be chosen much like Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen, the only Japanese cities with significant Christian populations.

      25. better ready than starving.

      26. This coming war, will be fought within our neighborhoods.
        It will be a religious one, and cruelty will prevail.
        Muslims nowadays, live among us, defy laws and customs of countries, are aggressive, always taking without giving, and support violence.
        I’m not sure what the excuse will be, but the deep causes will have to do with the clash of Christianity and Muslims.
        We must be ready to defend our homes, our families, our dignity, our beliefs, customs, and way of life.
        I don’t like this political correctness which demands from us to show low profile in order not to insult muslims.
        It’s they who must obbey and accept laws and customs of the country which accepted them.
        I don’t like the fact that the church bells will stop ring, i don’t like that cross is not visible anymore in school classes, i don’t like that the state tv doesn’t show the Sunday prayer anymore, i don’t like that the government donated a 25 million worth of property to muslims to built a mosque. I don’t like the fact the Christmas lights and celebrations, insult them.
        Does anyone of those suckers, thinks whether i am insulted or not about muslim excistence?
        If it is a war that is going to give the solution, so be it. I’m ready.

        • Manos
          Good to see you are still around. As far as the Muslims go I will always hang my Christmas lights. I will always support the church. I DO NOT care what insults them and if they want to support violence, then they shall be met with violence. If they do not like what America stands for then here is what I have to say about that (Get the fukk Out of the USA) I will not take the low profile to any race in order to not insult them. If they want land for a mosque then do what I had to do. SAVE MONEY AND BUY IT.



          PS Glad to see you and your family are doing well

        • Yeah, those Rothschild and Warburg banksters that are demanding their pound of flesh from you Greeks sure are a bunch of mean ol’ Muslims.

        • This really is starting to sound like what Revelation talks about.. uh-oh. Well just be ready to meet your maker is all i gotta say

        • Manos—here, our church bells ARE ringing…every Sunday morning by my church…
          Our schools have early morning Bible study in elementary grades!!!
          Our tvs blast those religious programs all week, not just on Sunday(I’m told they are still programmed since I don’t watch tv)
          In this community, we still say Jesus on the radios and at Christmas yu=ou can hear the announcer say Tis the season Jesus is born; we still have prayer time/services on the radio stations.
          I don’t know how long, but Ky. isn’t politically correct, yet!

          • Thats America!

        • Exactly Manos, those Rothschild, Warburg, and Schiff banksters that are taking their pound of flesh from you Greeks are mean ol’ Muslims!

        • What doesn’t insult and enrage muslims?

          • Ben,

            The only thing that doesn’t insult them, is to beat and assasinate their women.
            What a tough men indeed!!!
            It takes a whole mob, to kill a woman.
            If this is the teaching of their religion, then i suggest they rethink about it.

            Be safe Ben.

      27. As far as the single EMP device detonating above our country goes, remember that we have rudimentary ballistic missile defenses. These went into service in about 2004 I believe. Bush built 100 interceptors. There’s also SM3 from naval ships.

        While these are rudimentary and cannot defeat major attacks, a situation like the one that has been described can be defeated.

        • We would only use our interceptors against an actual missle attack. We would not know that what is billed as a communications or weather satellite is actually a nuke until it was detonated.

      28. Forget Star wars, fleets and missiles. Who checks everything being imported into the USA. Is every big generator or large piece of machinery everything it seems? The seeds of destruction may already have been imported into US cities. With nuclear weapons being so small and powerful, war can be a very dangerous game. It does not have to be terrorists doing this, but your future potential enemies. I am glad that I am living in a small unimportant country. Hopefully the ones planning all the fun and games will think it is not worthwhile to blow us up.

      29. Confucius says: War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left.

        • Confucius also say “Man with hand in pocket very pleased with himself”

      30. The United States is an aggressive, war like empire. Our leaders must swear fealty to Israel and the Jews before they are allowed into office.

        So, yes, America will attack Iran at the behest of Israel. More American blood and treasure will be expended solely for their benefit.

        Iran is being stood up as the boogeyman behind the scenes. Soon the drum beats of war will hit the main stream media, and the sheeple will fall in line, just like they did before we went into Iraq.

        • It is disappointing to see that whatever takes us down, a significant percentage of the survivors will be people who:
          (1) believe everything they are told on Zionist-owned media, talmudvision and H✡llyw✡✡d included and
          (2) are blood thirsty to boot (another side-effect of imbibing Zionism).

          You’d think that people who are prepping for the worst wouldn’t believe everything they are told to believe, wouldn’t believe the conspiracies advanced by those who have repeatedly lied to us, but would instead look deeper and carefully connect the dots.

          Sad to say, these times remind me of Isaias 5:20-21:
          Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. Woe to you that rue wise in your own eyes, and prudent in your own conceits.

          It is no accident that Judaism disparages and nullifies the Word of God, the Written Torah (what we call the Old Testament) in favor of the word of the rabbis’ Oral Torah (Talmud and Kabbala). These stiff-necked people just don’t want to hear God’s judgment on their behavior.

          In Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26 God specified the contract of the Mosaic Covenant. He specified the duties of the Israelites to obey Him, the rewards if they obeyed Him, and the penalties if they disobeyed Him. See also: Leviticus 18:28; Numbers 14:23; Deuteronomy 4:26-27; 6:18; 7:12; Deuteronomy 30; Ezekiel 13:9; Jeremias 7:15; 29:13-14.

          God did not promise to reward disobedience with power, admiration, or a real estate deal in the Middle East; He promised dispersal and misery, even to vomit them out.

          Keep ye my ordinances and my judgments, and do not any of these abominations: neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you. For all these detestable things the inhabitants of the land have done, that; were before you, and have defiled it. Beware then, lest in like manner, it vomit you also out, if you do the like things, as it vomited out the nation that was before you. Every soul that shall commit any of these abominations, shall perish from the midst of his people. Keep my commandments. Do not the things which they have done, that have been before you, and be not defiled therein. I am the Lord your God. Leviticus 18:26-30

          Here is God’s Judgment in the Old Testament “Written Torah” about how well the Israelites obeyed:

          rejected Him 1 Kings 8:7
          forsaken Him 1 Kings 8:8
          served strange gods 1 Kings 8:8
          hast not kept the commandments of the Lord 1 Kings 13:13
          forsaken the commandments of God 3 Kings 18:18
          mocked the messengers of God 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
          despised God’s Word 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
          misused the prophets 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
          provoked God to wrath 2 Esdras 9:26
          departed from God 2 Esdras 9:26
          threw God’s law behind their backs 2 Esdras 9:26
          killed the prophets, who admonished them earnestly to return to God 2 Esdras 9:26
          guilty of great blasphemies 2 Esdras 9:26
          forsaken the Lord Isaias 65:11
          forgotten His holy mountain ( the commandments from Mt. Sinai) Isaias 65:11
          didn’t listen to Him Isaias 65:11
          did evil Isaias 65:11
          didn’t answer Him Isaias 65:11
          chosen the things that displease God Isaias 65:11
          forsake God Jeremias 2:13
          made up their own religion “that holds no water” Jeremias 2:13
          had not done God’s work Ezekiel 20:23
          cast off His laws Ezekiel 20:23
          their eyes were after the idols of their fathers Ezekiel 20:23
          defiled Israel with idols Ezekiel 36:16ff
          profaned His Holy Name Ezekiel 36:16ff
          lying pen of the scribes wrote falsehood Jeremias 8:7ff
          they all dealt deceitfully Jeremias 8:10
          they voided the Covenant Jeremias 31:31-32
          sacrificed to idols Jeremias 44:23
          not walked in His law Jeremias 44:23
          disobeyed God’s commandments Jeremias 44:23
          disobeyed God’s Law Baruch 2:10
          the people of Israel will deny the Messiah Daniel 9:25ff
          no truth in Israel Osee 4:1-2
          no mercy in Israel Osee 4:1-2
          no knowledge of God in Israel Osee 4:1-2
          sacrificed to Baalim and other idols Osee 11:2
          He hates their festivities, sacrifices, and songs Amos 5:20-24
          covetous in all the Israelites Amos 9:1
          departed from the Law Malachias 2:8-12
          made void the Covenant Malachias 2:8-12
          not kept God’s ways Malachias 2:8-12
          despised their brothers Malachias 2:8-12
          committed abominations Malachias 2:8-12
          profaned the holiness of the Lord Malachias 2:8-12
          married the daughter of strange gods Malachias 2:8-12

          • I’m starting to think this site is full of religious fanatics. Hmm, where else have I heard religious fanatics in recent years… hmmm..

            I’ve been reading this site for a long time and just recently started posting. I am a prepper, but I, myself an not religious. I’m not anti-religion, I’d say I’m more agnostic. My stance is good for you if you are religious, and what I love about this country is that you can practice just about anything you want. I don’t bash other’s views, so long as they aren’t hurting anyone or repressing anyone else. My aggravation comes when people start trying to convert me and telling me I’m going to burn f I don’t believe the way they do. Do you realize how that makes you sound?

            My point for posting this is that if your SHTF Plan is to turn to your God, then great, but lately this site seems to have gone from great advice or interesting debate to this “Don’t worry God will save us” plan. To each their own, but when civil unrest occurs outside your door, and it’s time to defend your family, you can go pray all you want. I just pray I don’t miss.

            • Understood. We have friends who say, “God will take care of those who love him.” Are they prepping? Nooo… Are they armed? Nooo… Both of us are Catholic, but we don’t believe religion alone (ours or anyone else’s) will save someone WTSHTF. We DO believe in getting our house in order for whatever is to come; in other words, as we posted earlier, “God helps those who help themselves.”

            • So, Arkaden, what you “love about this country” is disappearing fast. You have, of course, seen the law enforcement training materials that stigmatize religious people as terrorists—you know, awful people who actually believe mothers do not have a “right” to kill their babies.

              What is to love about a country that allows the “Chosen People” of the SPLC to be in a privileged position to inform federal, state, and local “law enforcement” which religions will have the government’s kosher stamp of approval? and which religious group will be burned out and machine gunned by Delta Force? or have their children kidnapped by government agents?



              P.S. Define “fanatic.” Is a fanatic simply someone who actually tries to live according to their creed?

            • “John Q. Public” smells like a disinfo agent to me. I wonder if his IP can be traced back to Langley, Va.? =p

        • More Nazi propaganda. Ahmadinejad has publicly threatened both the USA and Israel. He apparently believes that the 12th Imam can’t return unless both countries are destroyed.

          • Source?

          • Farm,
            Don’t make eye contact with Joseph Q. Goebbels.
            You will only encourage him, and he will continue to hammer you with anti Jew propaganda.
            It’s just a suggestion, I’ve learned the hard way.

      31. divide and conqure. give the population so many boogie men they won’t know who the bad guy is. all while the government takes your last dime in the name of security.

      32. Could the announcer in the video have spoken any faster?

      33. You want to prep, then prep. If you right, it will make allnthe difference. If not, you still had peace of mind. But coming to sites like this that fear monger with sensational stories of WWIII and collapse coming MONDAY for Sure!! do nothing really to help You, other than cause sleepless nights. If it weren’t for the rational comments here I would delete my bookmark

        • In one respect, you’re right; but only cause most here ain’t stupid…we ARE prepping.
          On the other hand, those reading, not prepping, might get the behellious scared out of them and start prepping.
          This blog may save a life..or two???

          • Good point! Thanks!

        • Fear mongering? Only a fool would hazard an “exact” date and time guess. The truth is Charley that no one really knows what will really cause the SHTF. Each of these “fear mongering” theories gives insight into a potential outcome. Since everyone may have a separate theory as to what, where, when and how things will go down, it gives the individual (well at least this individual) pause to consider a different opinion, and decide if it should be included in their prepping plans! This site and others like it are integral to prepping. Oh yeah, I found that since I started prepping all those years ago, I sleep like a baby! Clay

          • ago, I sleep like a baby!

            Sleep for a bit, wake up and cry for a while then fall back asleep, wake up repeat?

      34. “Louis was a king, and our republic is established; the critical question concerning you must be decided by these words alone. Louis was dethroned by his crimes; Louis denounced the French people as rebels; he appealed to chains, to the armies of tyrants who are his brothers; the victory of the people established that Louis alone was a rebel; Louis cannot therefore be judged; he already is judged. He is condemned, or the republic cannot be absolved. To propose to have a trial of Louis XVI, in whatever manner one may, is to retrogress to royal despotism and constitutionality; it is a counter-revolutionary idea because it places the revolution itself in litigation. In effect, if Louis may still be given a trial, he may be absolved, and innocent. What am I to say? He is presumed to be so until he is judged. But if Louis is absolved, if he may be presumed innocent, what becomes of the revolution? If Louis is innocent, all the defenders of liberty become slanderers. Our enemies have been friends of the people and of truth and defenders of innocence oppressed; all the declarations of foreign courts are nothing more than the legitimate claims against an illegal faction. Even the detention that Louis has endured is, then, an unjust vexation; the fédérés, the people of Paris, all the patriots of the French Empire are guilty; and this great trial in the court of nature judging between crime and virtue, liberty and tyranny, is at last decided in favor of crime and tyranny. Citizens, take warning; you are being fooled by false notions; you confuse positive, civil rights with the principles of the rights of mankind; you confuse the relationships of citizens amongst themselves with the connections between nations and an enemy that conspires against it; you confuse the situation of a people in revolution with that of a people whose government is affirmed; you confuse a nation which punishes a public functionary to conserve its form of government, and one which destroys the government itself. We are falling back upon ideas familiar to us, in an extraordinary case that depends upon principles we’ve never yet applied.”— Maximilien Robespierre, 1792[

      35. I just think it’s funny that the West hasn’t yet won the two insurgent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan after 10 years. If they had won, they’d have packed up and gone home right? Answer is: They don’t want to win. It’s better to hold on to the important ground and spend time building up millions of tons of equipment in these two areas. Call it “prepositioning” your assets for the ultimate BIG step.

        Best way to get rid of your debts? Go to war against your debtors and kick their ass. If you win, you don’t have to pay them back, because they started it. Make sense now?

      36. The coming war will be an act of domination, not of those who should be our enemies, but of the people, themselves. Out of fear of our enemies, the people will be brought into line. They will be fearing the wrong enemies.

        The “Big Brother” we’ve been experiencing lately is nothing compared to what is coming. Things will be done “for our safety” that completely erode our freedom and our way of life.

        Neighbour will be encouraged to turn against neighbour (see something, say something). Rebellion will be quashed quickly and painfully, without regard for due process (The unPatriot Act). The PTB, the Elite, will act and try to turn us all into slaves.

        If people aren’t careful, it will be too late. By the time they wake up, they will dicsover that the Fema camps that they have been evacuated to for their own safety are just a modern version of concentration camps.

      37. Need some help convincing family members to get on board with prepping. Can anyone give me bible passages to help present my case?

        • Good luck, I’ve been trying for years. The last time the family got together I had all my financial facts ready. I actually sat down at the table with a Tin Foil hat on. Everyone had a good laugh.

          Now 75 days later I get calls from my mother and brother asking what they need to do to get started. Unfortunately without throwing $25k at their problem now, I don’t think they are going to make it.

          Though they can spend the money for the supplies, tools and weapons, they have absolutely no skills. Not even fire starting with matches and they live 600 miles away. They may have time to get the most basic weapons skills, but that’s about it.

          It’s my hope post collapse, that I can get them to move within 24 hours. If I can get them here during the early stages and they have the stuff I’ve told them to buy, they wil have a chance. I’ll just have to train them up when they arrive.

          After the events in Europe over the weekend it looks like Germany and France are getting ready to run the presses at full speed. With most sovereign countries printing money it could be a protracted collapse.

          Now that it’s Monday in Japan it looks like the Nikkei is liking the new global QE that’s about to begin.

          • Maybe they hava a fire starter app for their Ipad.

            • “fire starter app for their iPad”???

              Hilarious! and so apt!

            • They do have apps for that and a lot more. I’ve got a ballistic calculator and more on my iphone. I wouldn’t want to depend on my iphone, ipad or laptop though.

          • PatriotOne,

            There is a brother in law in my family like those you describe in yours. He started prepping in May after I got him to reach one second after and later he read patriots. He’s spending $500/1000 a month now on preparing and bought his first gun (10/22) in August. He doesn’t know it but I picked up a used SKS just with him in mind to loan him; his property is a good intermediate Bug Out spot for me on the way to my own. But before he started prepping it would have been to risky to stop at his place but now I’d gladly take him. In 4 short months he’s solved all water issues, seed, and has started his firearms training. This month he’s getting an RIA 45 and I’ll loan him a 22 kit for it so he can get some decent training in. I’m amazed how far he’s gotten in 4 months on less than 1k a month. Oh and he’s got 6 in his family to worry about including himself.

          • 24 hours is to short of time post collapse evac, think more like 72hrs just to be safe with any unforseen issues…

        • Just one off hand…with such short notice..
          Matthew 6:26….Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or stow away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them.

          I ain’t no damn bird!!!

        • Matthew 25, Parable of the 10 virgins

      38. whether you believe it or not, it’s coming

      39. We are in the midst of the End Times.

        • We’re in the End Times but the Great Tribulation hasn’t started yet. I believe that the worldwide collapse will lead to the one-world government prophesied in Revelation. We might not have more than a few months before the collapse.

        • Oh, some of us are just at the fringes.

          • And some of us are just looking forward to tomorrow morning and that first cup of Dunkin’ Donuts coffee 🙂

            • Chochlate covered cinnamon roll.

      40. I’m in the Tampa fla.Clearwater Fla Area. I know something is going to happen .What and where ,I don’t know.I do pray.I am hopeful that I’ll be ready.I do believe what is on it’s way will shake us all no matter how hard core you are out there.I want my mind set on being able to be just to be,Living to see truth of what is to come.

        • Move to the mountains.

          • Not everyone can just pick up and move, you know. It isn’t always pratical, even if it is desirable.

            Frosty, my theory is to do the best that you can with the situation you are in. Figure out how to defend YOUR home, feed your family where you are, etc. “Bloom where you’re planted.”

            And, of course, pray.

            • Daisy: Do you want to move to the mountains? Send me a photo and I will cirulate it (discreetly of course)to some mountain men here to see if they want you for a squaw. 🙂

              See … I am in a better mood today.

      41. Zombies to the left of me, banksters to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you.

      42. WWW 3 is something that will benefit a very few. If the masses or stupid enough to go along with it, many of us will most likely parish. And civilization may have to start over.

        Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( )

        • Mad max: Communism by any other name …. is still communism. It doesn’t work, which is why it has been rejected by every nation except, Cuba,

          China can SAY they are communist, but in fact they are now corporate fascists under a managed crony capitalism.

          • As a newcomer, I risk of coming off like an internet troll, I’ll post a second time on this in an effort to provide some education, and I’ll shut up after this. Hopefully somebody else can learn and continue to educate.

            I cringe at how many still believe the first paragraph above. I imagine that a mass majority of us here disbelieve damn near everything that our government tells us, certainly this reader (now poster) does, and yet we fail to question 50+ years of propaganda and lies about communism?

            I posted similar in another thread earlier tonight, but the very idea of a country, negates the ideals of communism. What most Americans believe of communism is actually *socialism* with the prominent political party being the Communist party, who’s ultimate goal is *supposedly* communism. Take a read of the English translation of “The Communist Manifesto” sometime. You’ll learn that first capitalism, and then socialism are regarded as necessary evils of government before communism can be _achieved_.

            Obviously, that goal was lost somewhere along the way…probably about 4 years in for the former Soviet Union. First they skipped a step and then they barely began to scratch the surface of socialism before Stalin came along and really f’d things up for those people.

            I envision the ultimate freedom of the human race actually being something very similar to Engles and Marx’s ideals (there are certain obvious flaws in those ideals — for instance the concept of any type of ownership, including the idea of a “state” or “state ownership”), but I don’t expect our species to grow up until long after my grandchildren’s grandchildren’s deaths.

            Anyway, my point is that communism has never been attempted, much less outright rejected. I hope that explanation helps educate rather than anger anyone.

            BTW, your review of China as a fascist state is spot on IMO.

            I thank everyone for their posts, now back to my corner to lurk in silence.

      43. Some people seems to desire war, collapse, etc. We humans are amazing 🙂

        • Guys, you realize before SHTF the singularity will come. Please quit the drama and propaganda of SHTF. The singularity will save humanity.

          • Re singularity, perhaps it is already manifest. the computer models of investment flows are causing the game to lock up. If your wager yields almost infinite advantage and you win, you lose having the game. There is a report of huge derivative shorts on the stock market that would result in impossible sums of federal reserve notes due, thus breaking the illusion.
            See the silly flow chart done by goldman sachs at zero-hedge, as the Greek default gets kicked down the road some more.

        • Big difference between wanting it and wanting to be prepared for it.

      44. it seems to me that somone is always claiming the end of days is near. the bible said so, there for it must be true.

        I heard this claim ever since I was a small child and doing “duck and cover” under my school desk just incase the USSR nuked us.

        heard that claim all throughy-out the 80’s. Heard all through-out the 90’s for 1999 was supposed to have been the end of the world/end of time. Heard the claim all through-out 2000-10 for a terrorist was supposed to wipe us out.

        every single claim is in reaction to a man made crises. not a natural disaster. it’s a flase claim made out of fear.

        fear is a huge motivator. it can drive people to do the strangest things.

        the world is not going to end cause the bible tells us so. the world will simply change. the reason for prepping is to provide you with supplies and defense to get you through a turbulant period of time.

        • Rachel: Eventually they will be right. It is moving in that direction. The Bible doesn’t tell us that the world is going to end.

          On the contrary it tells US that the world will last for a very, very, very long time. So long in fact it will seem like forever.

          Read the Bible.

          The Bible claims to be the revealed Word of God which describes His Creation and His Plan for it.

          Personally, I believe that everything that happens in this world happens for three reasons:

          1. It happens by the Will of God according to his Plan.
          2. It happens by Grace, in answer to our prayers.
          3. And it happens by His Forebearance,as He allows US to exercise OUR free will; as agents of change and co-creaters with him.

          So We can change the world with OUR prayers and with OUR actions.

          Most events appear to be the reaction to OUR actions as cause and effect are manifested in the world, based upon OUR initiatives.

          This manifestation reflects OUR individual and mass consciousness, as OUR minds interact at the quantum level. Everyone has a “quantum address” just as WE have an “IP adress”.

          WE have the power to change the world We live in (within limits) if We will accept that responsibility. Most of US will not because it takes too much effort, and WE are too busy keeping up with the Kardasians to care or notice.

      45. We face a colossal, human-induced global predicament. Emerging and converging ecological challenges we have chosen to ignore rather than acknowledge during my lifetime is in large part the result of the way silence is employed by ‘the powers that be’ and their minions to prevail over science. Hysterical blindness, willful deafness and elective mutism of knowledgeable human beings with feet of clay rule the world every bit as much as malignant narcissism, pathological arrogance and extreme foolishness of greedmongering masters of the universe rule the world. This pernicious situation is as intolerable as it is dangerous to future human well being and environmental health.

      46. I like it when people post links of other websites of interesting articles. otherwise i would lf never found this webstie a year ago.

      47. A remake of the movie 1984 would be well timed right now.

      48. I’m a one %’r.

      49. Is that a dude or woman on poison my water add above?

        • I wondered the same thing… UGGHH..

          “it” puts the UG in ugly..

      50. To me the major news of today is that Europe and China are bailing out their Banks and it’s not really news. Am I just stupid or does anyone else think this is really bad news?

        I know that’s a loaded question, fire away, but think about first.

      51. Mac,

        I love your site! I’ve been lurking for a few months. Your video was very good too. I believe WW3 will happen whether by accident or or purpose.

        Generational Dynamics by J. Xenaxis, which is based on Strauss and Howe’s “Fourth Turning” predicts it. I have found it very fascinating. Xenaxis believes one war will pit the US, Japan, and India against China, Pakistan, and the other Sunni countries like Saudi Arabia. I’m pretty much convinced too.

      52. “What we’ve got here is failure to communicate.
        Some men you just can’t reach…
        So, you get what we had here last week,
        which is the way he wants it!
        Well, he gets it!
        N’ I don’t like it any more than you men.” *

        Look at your young men fighting
        Look at your women crying
        Look at your young men dying
        The way they’ve always done before

        Look at the hate we’re breeding
        Look at the fear we’re feeding
        Look at the lives we’re leading
        The way we’ve always done before

        My hands are tied
        The billions shift from side to side
        And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
        For the love of God and our human rights
        And all these things are swept aside
        By bloody hands time can’t deny
        And are washed away by your genocide
        And history hides the lies of our civil wars

        D’you wear a black armband
        When they shot the man
        Who said “Peace could last forever”
        And in my first memories
        They shot Kennedy
        I went numb when I learned to see
        So I never fell for Vietnam
        We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
        That you can’t trust freedom
        When it’s not in your hands
        When everybody’s fightin’
        For their promised land

        I don’t need your civil war
        It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
        Your power hungry sellin’ soldiers
        In a human grocery store
        Ain’t that fresh
        I don’t need your civil war

        Look at the shoes your filling
        Look at the blood we’re spilling
        Look at the world we’re killing
        The way we’ve always done before
        Look in the doubt we’ve wallowed
        Look at the leaders we’ve followed
        Look at the lies we’ve swallowed
        And I don’t want to hear no more

        My hands are tied
        For all I’ve seen has changed my mind
        But still the wars go on as the years go by
        With no love of God or human rights
        ‘Cause all these dreams are swept aside
        By bloody hands of the hypnotized
        Who carry the cross of homicide
        And history bears the scars of our civil wars

        “We practice selective annihilation of mayors
        And government officials
        For example to create a vacuum
        Then we fill that vacuum
        As popular war advances
        Peace is closer” **

        I don’t need your civil war
        It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
        Your power hungry sellin’ soldiers
        In a human grocery store
        Ain’t that fresh
        And I don’t need your civil war
        I don’t need your civil war
        I don’t need your civil war
        Your power hungry sellin’ soldiers
        In a human grocery store
        Ain’t that fresh
        I don’t need your civil war
        I don’t need one more war

        I don’t need one more war
        Whaz so civil ’bout war anyway

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