Is the Government Also Monitoring the CONTENT of Our Phone Calls?

by | Jun 6, 2013 | Headline News | 220 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    Big Brother Is Watching

    Yes, Government Spooks May Be Listening

    The Obama administration has been caught spying on the Verizon phone calls of tens of millions of Americans.

    But the government has sought to “reassure” us that it is only tracking “metadata” such as the time and place of the calls, and not the actual content of the calls.

    That claim is patently absurd.

    The American government is in fact collecting and storing virtually every phone call, purchases, email, text message, internet searchessocial media communicationshealth information, employment history, travel and student records, and virtually all other information of every American.

    All U.S. intelligence agencies – including the CIA and NSA – are going to spy on Americans’ finances.  The IRS will be spying on Americans’ shopping records, travel, social interactions, health records and filesfrom other government investigators.

    As the top spy chief at the U.S. National Security Agency – William Binney – explained, the NSA is collecting some 100 billion 1,000-character emails per day, and 20 trillion communications of all types per year.

    Binney says that the government has collected all of the communications of congressional leaders, generals and everyone else in the U.S. for the last 10 years.

    Binney further explains that he set up the NSA’s system so that all of the information would automatically be encrypted, so that the government had to obtain a search warrant based upon probably cause before a particular suspect’s communications could be decrypted. But the NSA now collects all data in an unencrypted form, so that no probable cause is needed to view any citizen’s information. He says that it is actually cheaper and easier to store the data in an encrypted format: so the government’s current system is being done for political – not practical – purposes.

    Binney says that if anyone gets on the government’s “enemies list”, then the stored information will be used to target them. Specifically, he notes that if the government decides it doesn’t like someone, it analyzes all of the data it has collected on that person and his or her associates over the last 10 years to build a case against him.  This includes whistleblowers, activists or even government insiders … like the head of the CIA.

    Indeed, whistleblowers revealed years ago that the NSA was vacuuming up virtually all Internet communications.

    The Other Types of Spying the Government Is Doing On Us

    In addition, the amount of money and effort the government is putting into spying on Americans using a wide variety of other technologies tends to discredit any notion that the government is exercising restraint in monitoring our phone calls (which are already being tapped) for content.

    For example, the government is flying drones over the American homeland to spy on us.

    Senator Rand Paul correctly notes:

    The domestic use of drones to spy on Americans clearly violates the Fourth Amendment and limits our rights to personal privacy.

    Emptywheel notes in a post entitled “The OTHER Assault on the Fourth Amendment in the NDAA? Drones at Your Airport?”:


    As the map above makes clear–taken from this 2010 report–DOD [the Department of Defense] plans to have drones all over the country by 2015.

    Many police departments are also using drones to spy on us. As the Hill reported:

    At least 13 state and local police agencies around the country have used drones in the field or in training, according to the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International, an industry trade group. The Federal Aviation Administration has predicted that by the end of the decade, 30,000 commercial and government drones could be flying over U.S. skies.


    “Drones should only be used if subject to a powerful framework that regulates their use in order to avoid abuse and invasions of privacy,” Chris Calabrese, a legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, said during a congressional forum in Texas last month.

    He argued police should only fly drones over private property if they have a warrant, information collected with drones should be promptly destroyed when it’s no longer needed and domestic drones should not carry any weapons.

    He argued that drones pose a more serious threat to privacy than helicopters because they are cheaper to use and can hover in the sky for longer periods of time.

    A congressional report earlier this year predicted that drones could soon be equipped with technologies to identify faces or track people based on their height, age, gender and skin color.

    Moreover, Wired reports:

    Transit authorities in cities across the country are quietly installing microphone-enabled surveillance systems on public buses that would give them the ability to record and store private conversations….

    The systems are being installed in San Francisco, Baltimore, and other cities with funding from the Department of Homeland Security in some cases ….

    The IP audio-video systems can be accessed remotely via a built-in web server (.pdf), and can be combined with GPS data to track the movement of buses and passengers throughout the city.


    The systems use cables or WiFi to pair audio conversations with camera images in order to produce synchronous recordings. Audio and video can be monitored in real-time, but are also stored onboard in blackbox-like devices, generally for 30 days, for later retrieval. Four to six cameras with mics are generally installed throughout a bus, including one near the driver and one on the exterior of the bus.


    Privacy and security expert Ashkan Soltani told the Daily that the audio could easily be coupled with facial recognition systems or audio recognition technology to identify passengers caught on the recordings.

    RT notes:

    Street lights that can spy installed in some American cities

    America welcomes a new brand of smart street lightning systems: energy-efficient, long-lasting, complete with LED screens to show ads. They can also spy on citizens in a way George Orwell would not have imagined in his worst nightmare.

    With a price tag of $3,000+ apiece, according to an ABC report, the street lights are now being rolled out in Detroit, Chicago and Pittsburgh, and may soon mushroom all across the country.

    Part of the Intellistreets systems made by the company Illuminating Concepts, they havea number of “homeland security applications” attached.

    Each has a microprocessor “essentially similar to an iPhone,” capable ofwireless communication. Each can capture images and count people for the police through a digital camera, record conversations of passers-by and even give voice commands thanks to a built-in speaker.

    Ron Harwood, president and founder of Illuminating Concepts, says he eyed the creation of such a system after the 9/11 terrorist attacks and the Hurricane Katrina disaster. He is“working with Homeland Security” to deliver his dream of making people “more informed and safer.”

    Cell towers track where your phone is at any moment, and the major cell carriers, including Verizon and AT&T, responded to at least 1.3 million law enforcement requests for cell phone locations and other data in 2011. (And – given that your smartphone routinely sends your location information back to Apple or Google – it would be child’s play for the government to track your location that way.) Your iPhone, orother brand of smartphone is spying on virtually everything you do (ProPublica notes: “That’s No Phone. That’s My Tracker“).

    Fox news notes that the government is insisting that “black boxes” be installed in cars to track your location.

    The TSA has moved way past airports, trains and sports stadiums, and is deploying mobile scanners to spy on people all over the place. This means that traveling within the United States is no longer a private affair.

    You might also have seen the news this week that the Department of Homeland Security is going tocontinue to allow searches of laptops and phones based upon “hunches”.

    What’s that about?

    The ACLU published a map in 2006 showing that nearly two-thirds of the American public – 197.4 million people – live within a “constitution-free zone” within 100 miles of land and coastal borders:

    The ACLU explained:

    • Normally under the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the American people are not generally subject to random and arbitrary stops and searches.
    • The border, however, has always been an exception. There, the longstanding view is that the normal rules do not apply. For example the authorities do not need a warrant or probable cause to conduct a “routine search.”
    • But what is “the border”? According to the government, it is a 100-mile wide strip that wraps around the “external boundary” of the United States.
    • As a result of this claimed authority, individuals who are far away from the border, American citizens traveling from one place in America to another, are being stopped and harassed in ways that our Constitution does not permit.
    • Border Patrol has been setting up checkpoints inland — on highways in states such as California, Texas and Arizona, and at ferry terminals in Washington State. Typically, the agents ask drivers and passengers about their citizenship. Unfortunately, our courts so far have permitted these kinds of checkpoints – legally speaking, they are “administrative” stops that are permitted only for the specific purpose of protecting the nation’s borders. They cannot become general drug-search or other law enforcement efforts.
    • However, these stops by Border Patrol agents are not remaining confined to that border security purpose. On the roads of California and elsewhere in the nation – places far removed from the actual border – agents are stopping, interrogating, and searching Americans on an everyday basis with absolutely no suspicion of wrongdoing.
    • The bottom line is that the extraordinary authorities that the government possesses at the border are spilling into regular American streets.

    Computer World reports:

    Border agents don’t need probable cause and they don’t need a stinking warrant since they don’t need to prove any reasonable suspicion first. Nor, sadly, do two out of three people have First Amendment protection; it is as if DHS has voided those Constitutional amendments and protections they provide to nearly 200 million Americans.


    Don’t be silly by thinking this means only if you are physically trying to cross the international border. As we saw when discussing the DEA using license plate readers and data-mining to track Americans movements, the U.S. “border” stretches out 100 miles beyond the true border. Godfather Politics added:

    But wait, it gets even better! If you live anywhere in Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey or Rhode Island, DHS says the search zones encompass the entire state.

    Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) have a “longstanding constitutional and statutory authority permitting suspicionless and warrantless searches of merchandise at the border and its functional equivalent.” This applies to electronic devices, according to the recent CLCR “Border Searches of Electronic Devices” executive summary [PDF]:

    Fourth Amendment

    The overall authority to conduct border searches without suspicion or warrant is clear and longstanding, and courts have not treated searches of electronic devices any differently than searches of other objects. We conclude that CBP’s and ICE’s current border search policies comply with the Fourth Amendment. We also conclude that imposing a requirement that officers have reasonable suspicion in order to conduct a border search of an electronic device would be operationally harmful without concomitant civil rights/civil liberties benefits. However, we do think that recording more information about why searches are performed would help managers and leadership supervise the use of border search authority, and this is what we recommended; CBP has agreed and has implemented this change beginning in FY2012.***

    The ACLU said, Wait one darn minute! Hello, what happened to the Constitution? Where is the rest of CLCR report on the “policy of combing through and sometimes confiscating travelers’ laptops, cell phones, and other electronic devices—even when there is no suspicion of wrongdoing?” DHS maintains it is not violating our constitutional rights, so the ACLU said:

    If it’s true that our rights are safe and that DHS is doing all the things it needs to do to safeguard them, then why won’t it show us the results of its assessment? And why would it be legitimate to keep a report about the impact of a policy on the public’s rights hidden from the very public being affected?


    As Christian Post wrote, “Your constitutional rights have been repealed in ten states. No, this isn’t a joke. It is not exaggeration or hyperbole. If you are in ten states in the United States, your some of your rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights have been made null and void.”

    The ACLU filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the entire DHS report about suspicionless and warrantless “border” searches of electronic devices. ACLU attorney Catherine Crump said “We hope to establish that the Department of Homeland Security can’t simply assert that its practices are legitimate without showing us the evidence, and to make it clear that the government’s own analyses of how our fundamental rights apply to new technologies should be openly accessible to the public for review and debate.”

    Meanwhile, the EFF has tips to protect yourself and your devices against border searches. If you think you know all about it, then you might try testing your knowledge with a defending privacy at the U.S. border quiz.

    Wired pointed out in 2008 that the courts have routinely upheld such constitution-free zones:

    Federal agents at the border do not need any reason to search through travelers’ laptops, cell phones or digital cameras for evidence of crimes, a federal appeals court ruled Monday, extending the government’s power to look through belongings like suitcases at the border to electronics.


    The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the government, finding that the so-called border exception to the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition on unreasonable searches applied not just to suitcases and papers, but also to electronics.


    Travelers should be aware that anything on their mobile devices can be searched by government agents, who may also seize the devices and keep them for weeks or months. When in doubt, think about whether online storage or encryption might be tools you should use to prevent the feds from rummaging through your journal, your company’s confidential business plans or naked pictures of you and your-of-age partner in adult fun.

    Going further down the sci fi Big Brother rabbit hole, Verizon has applied for a patent that would allow your television to track what you are doing, who you are with, what objects you’re holding, and what type of mood you’re in. (And some folks could conceivably be spying on you through your tv using existing technology.)

    And they’re probably bluffing and exaggerating, but the Department of Homeland Security claims they will soon be able to know your adrenaline level, what you ate for breakfast and what you’re thinking …from 164 feet away.

    Indeed, technology has made pervasive spying more possible than ever before.

    TechDirt notes:

    In a radio interview, Wall Street Journal reporter Julia Angwin (who’s been one of the best at covering the surveillance state in the US) made a simple observation that puts much of this into context: the US surveillance regime has more data on the average American than the Stasi ever did on East Germans.

    Postscript:  This is not some “post-9/11 reality”.  Spying on Americans started before 9/11

    And the national security boys can choose to share U.S. civilian information with federal, state, local, or foreign entities for analysis of possible criminal behavior, even if there is no reason to suspect them.

    And many say that the spying isn’t being done to keep us safe … but to crush dissent and to smear people who uncover unflattering this about the government … and to help the too big to fail businesses compete against smaller businesses (and here).

    Note: Here’s a full report card on how well the government has been balancing civil liberties with other concerns.

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      1. Is the Pope Catholic?

        • I wonder if big brother has a file on my ability to get women to send me pics of their jugs?

          • Hope they can see me Mooning them in High Definition.

            • @ OutWest. I have got nothing to hide about the way I feel about the government, they suck. They could take the right way of doing what is fair and leaving people alone, but they choice to rather control them and manipulate them. They rather go the wrong path and be evil. There I said it, nothing to hide, f you government, f you very much. Oh by the way government, have a nice day. 🙂

              • Three cheers for you, Be informed

                • The “border” depicted by the map is wrong! The border through the midwest eliminates Lake Michigan and part of Lake Superior from within the actual, legal border of the United States.

                  A one hundred mile “border” following the international boundary between Canada and the USA would, of necessity, eliminate Milwaukee and Chicago from the monitored area.

                  Guess Nappy will have to redefine the “border” again, if DHS wants to include the Windy City in the mix. just saying ….

                  • I love how my ENTIRE home state is a constitution free zone, that figures,

                  • Kula: What do you expect when it is the home of Barry O’bummer?

              • BI, what is obvious, is no matter how outraged we are as Americans they continue (elected reps)to say and do nothing. Ten states that are constitutionally free zones, tptb are rubbing our faces in it and daring us to do something about it.

                • Most people think it is great since they have been told it is to keep them safe. releasing the level of surveillance that is being done is partly to intimidate anyone from getting any iseas abiout resisting.

                • This is a pamphlet I found on the ground a long time ago. I would like to share it with all of you. I dont know who the author is, but I think it is appropriate for the times. Its title…..NO QUARTER……………………………………………………….George Washington once said “The very atomsphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference, they deserve a place of honor with all thats good. The present attack on our Second Amendment Right to Keep and Bear Arms is being waged in the form of concessions. Any retreat is part of a fatal process. In our suicidal search for a “kinder gentler nation” we are sacrificing our birthright of liberty. It is time we recognized that we are at war. There can be NO COMPROMISE on the issue of weapons. The presence of weapons in the hands of the sovereign citizen is the ONLY hope of leaving some pathetic legacy of freedom to posterity. Any person, government official or agency that advocates the disarming in any manner of the law abiding citizens of this nation is guilty of treason. The penalty for treason is death. Presently, the law of the government protects traitors and the enemies of freedom in this country while the principles of justice, human dignity and liberty languish in the darkness of apathy. How will we tell our children that freedom died because we did not have the courage to keep our weapons? Like jackals, the cowards, the weak and the timid in their quest for power, are harassing and isolating us. Each of us will someday face the choice, fight or surrender. We cannot even run because America was the last refuge. Do not kid yourselves about what is at stake. Your career, your property, your material wealth, your status among family and friends, your freedom from incarceration and even your life are at risk, if you are willing to defend yourself from this crime perpetrated upon us by a malignant government. The principles of honor, loyalty and courage are scoffed at and viewed as romantic nonsence. Keep in mind that those principles created the greatest nation in the history of the world. We owe no apology for that success. We won the greatest economic, political and military conflicts in history, and in so doing bought the lives and relative liberty of those who now attack us from within and without. Our right to own and carry weapons is at the heart of that success. Contrast, if you will, the subjugation of the Hungarians and the victory of the Afghans in the face of Soviet might. If you speak of rights, of the principles of the United States Constitution, of the legitimacy of national and cultural continuity and dominance, of the soverignty of our physical borders- you like me, will be labeled a fanatic, an extremist, a radical and even a terrorist. Your phone will be tapped, your name will be listed in the files of intelligence and enforcement agencies from local police to other state and federal agencies. Most Americans naively believe because we cast ballots and participate in other illusory trappings of a free people we enjoy liberty. Get arrested and see what happens. You will have a record for life whether you are guilty or innocent. The instances of police brutality and unjustified shootings are increasing as the courts hold that the police have no obligation to protect the citizen. Judges exercise judicial tyranny by creating law rather than interpreting it as specified by the United States Constitution. The same officals, politicians, social activists, and lobotomized voters who have advocated and established the policies of open territorial borders, the abandonment of our allies, the waste of over 50,000 American soldiers in the jungles of Southeast Asia, Iraq and Afghanistan, the socialist vomit being fed our children in public schools, corrupt politicians, abusive police and government officials, distorted media reporting, the rape of our land, the poisoning of our water and air, the strangulation of free enterprise by megabusiness, the insanity of affirmative action and the arrest and prosecution of citizens for self defence, are the same rabble who will take your rights, confiscate your weapons and castrate your spirit. If you are happy with Monday Night Football, aerobics classes, an evening of wine and cheese at The Pointe, Club Med vacations, or any other trinkets afforded fat, complacent and willing whores then depart from us in peace at this time. Continue to lick the boots of your masters and perform other duties of a prostitute. But know that you are an enemy of those who count freedom above comfort. We who love liberty more than security seek no quarrel with any man. But, neither will we wear the chains of subjugation. TAKE OUR WEAPONS WE WILL TAKE YOUR LIFE. Take warning, the line has been drawn. If blood is to be shed, let it begin here. Should the flames of violence consume us, history will mark for future generations the courage and passing of free men. If the Almighty grants an undeserving people mercy once again before the light flickers into darkness, free men and women will take their weapons in hand, place the point of the sword against the throat of the enemy and NO QUARTER SHALL BE GIVEN.

                  • Hey, I like Monday night football!!! I agree with the other stuff. Even though we prepare; we all need to have things we enjoy to stay evenly balanced.

                    GOD bless

              • Be Informed, I am so sick and tired of this government. I know it is a horrible thing to ask for, Collapse already.

                • Your not alone!

              • They “Gov” have much to learn. I am with OutWest. I hope they got a picture of my moon. Hope they got it with a Stink Pickle. They have no right. They work for us, but seem to have gotten this idea that we work for them. Never mind they think that they created the World. Just wondering what will happen when they meet God their creator.

            • OW, the only problem is your moon is broken. Has a crack in it.

              • I first saw this subject a day or two ago and it got a chuckle out of me. Years ago (pre cell phone time period) me and several hunting friends were sitting out in a pit goose hunting. The day was cold, rainy and miserable. About an hour into our hunt a small plane flew over us pretty low. All of us first thought it was because of the weather that they were flying so low. However, the plane made several passes over us, sometimes only flying around a couple of hundred feet up. The plane again banked to make another pass and one fellow mentioned that it was DNR (aka Gamewarden). It was agreed among us that if they buzzed us again, we would all stand up and give them the bird. They did and we did. Approximately an hour later we could see two figures in uniform slogging through the mud making their way out to us. When they arrived at the pit, the senior officer asked us to unload our guns and performed a check of our weapons and ammo. After they completed their search (they didn’t find anything illegal) the sergeant asked, “Why did you feel it necessary to flip us the bird when we were flying above you just observing you. One of the boys in the pit responded, “because we felt it was harassment from the number of passes that you made and besides, if we’d of hollered FUCK YOU, you wouldn’t have heard us.” O’snuggles can’t see you right now, so give him a call on your cell phone and tell him to go Fuck Himself. Or text him. I’m sure he’ll get it.

                • They were just trying to justify their job. How can you hunt birds with them flying over your head? Nothing legal or otherwise could have been happening at that moment. No probable cause for them to give you a visit.

          • You know, mclovin,
            Many of us on this forum are women – why on earth would you make such an obscene, lascivious, denigrating reference to womens’ breasts?

            You don’t demonstrate any practical utility on this site at all. You just pop up when there is an opportunity to show off to your “buds” with typical male pack mentality.

            There are some real men on this site, and you’re not one of them. Perhaps you sense that……………..

            • BOOBIES!!!

            • choke on a nutsack

              • If you’re going to impersonate McLovin just to start an argument, you might trying spelling his name correctly.

                I find that lends to the authenticity.

                ~ Daisy

            • Settle down your a big girl and can handle it. Though he makes a good point regarding intrusion, in a colorful way. Plus the statement is in honor of free speech. Policing ones own behavior is hard enough, not enough time in the day to monitor others.

            • I take it you have never been deployed GOP4EVer? Well you clearly aren’t ready for SHTF if u allow innocent jokes like mine (though I fully admit I’m a sexist) to get under your skin. Better learn to thicken your skin in a hurry because pesons far worse than me are fully preparted to do far worse than innocent locker-room humor.

              • Well, mclovin, self aggrandizing small man, I have indeed deployed, am indeed a Shellback.

                It’s not about me having a thin skin, it’s you abusing your access to this forum.

                But, much like trying to reason with a self confessed liberal, trying to reason with a self confessed sexist is fruitless.

                • Well thank you for your service GOP4Ever, and thank God you didn’t serve with me in combat because we heard enough whining from the incoming Haji rockets without needing it from you too.

                  • Well, mclovin, I see you survived, probably because you are a coward. Actually, I couldn’t whine much while doing surgery at a forward Battalion Aid Station.

                    Be glad you didn’t come under my knife then – mighta “mistaken” you for a raghead….

                  • wow GOP4ever, that shows what a sorry piece of shit you where as a service member and what a sorry cunt you are as a person to suggest I was a coward when I never made any accusations about your service valor. and you just insulted everything the uniform has stood for since 1775 by suggesting you might commit fratricide to a fellow hero simply for disliking him. You are a worthless cunt as a woman and a service member. Go swallow AIDS.

                  • That is pretty shitty of you to say GOP4Ever, sounds like you learned your manners from the Palin whores.

                  • Mclovin, I’m glad you like jugs, and
                    i’m not offended in the least! Better than weenies…

                    Just to be clear, I am a Woman.


                  • Neither one of y’all served anywhere except maybe a fast food joint. Stop writing this nonsense get back on the subject.

              • Hey McLovin,
                Glad to hear from you again, hope that “burning love” is cured. As for pics, well, GOP4EVER must have a hard time standing in the checkout line at the grocery store if your comments upset her. Shoot the magazines displayed are right up there with your request for pics. Take care.

                • Thanks Mordecaiand DRD5508! I’ll try to keep my humor gems related to the topic matter as best I can as always.

                  • mc”lovin”
                    “Sorry cunt…” Well now, see there? You DO know what it’s like to feel outrage and offense!

                    But, seriously, if I’d a known you had that bad PTSD, I woulda gone easier on ya………..

                  • And now u make a joke about PTSD too? Spoken like a true POG

                  • Hell yeah Mclovin, when I was at Drum the biggest whores on post were the nurses and female 68W, suck it GOP.

                • I sure as Fuck did McClelland, Task Force Mountain: Ad Diwaniyah, Iraq.

                  • Ecco: The male pack mentality works every time.

                    The biggest whores on the ship were guys like you showing up at sick call with gonorrhea pharyngitis and anal condylomata from goin and blowin at each other til they were raw

                    Butterbars? I’m a Commander. I know you pukes hate officers – more of your prejudice. And a female, surgeon, officer???? I must trigger every raw prejudice you have.

                    The Marines and Sailors I served with were real men with real respect. I never heard any of your low class blather from them.

                    Oh, and AIDS mcluvin? All male buddy, they were ALL
                    MALE. And I thought you objected to joking about illness suffered by the troops? You can joke about AIDS and I can’t joke about PTSD?

                    You are the pot calling the kettle black, sailor.

              • When I was in Romadi they caught a female medic blowing a butterbar in the back of an aid station. No wonder you didn’t have time to whine GOP!!!

            • I am a male and I am equally offended gop4ever

              • Thanks outlaw.

              • thanks, Outlaw.

            • oh, for Pete’s sake GOP4EVER, we’ve got too many important things to worry about. Sheeple in this country get waaay too offended by waaay too many things. I’m a blonde with 38DDs, and you know what offends me?

              The government spying on me.
              Police beating people down in the streets.
              Taking my hard-earned money and giving it to everybody but me.
              Trying to take my guns away.
              Everything Bilderberg.
              Calling Patriots terrorists.
              Trying to implant RFID chips in me and mine.
              Teaching garbage to my kids.
              Trying to put me on psych meds.
              Thinking of me as ‘cattle’.
              Smart meters when I don’t want them on my home.
              People who think preppers are terrorists.
              People who get offended by stupid shit….The list goes on and on.

              • Oh and I forgot—THE PATRIOT ACT IN IT’S ENTIRETY.

            • GOP4EVER,

              Your feminazi yen for censoring other people offends me. I’ve never seen you post anything here until tonight. You must have taken a wrong turn. The Fascist bund sewing circle is down the hall. If normal expression offends you take a hike.

              Curl up with one of Catharine Mac Kinnon’s misanthropic tomes and a cucumber. Hours of fun honey.

          • mclovin, they already have the pictures of the women. Holder and Obama want your method of getting them, in case they really do go to jail.

          • YES they do! Big brother said he would show me your file but there wasn’t anything worth looking at.

            AND yes this is sarcasm.

        • If your phone hasn’t been tapped you haven’t been talking! My phones were first tapped under the Bush Regime. Obama is not doing anything new. Like Bush, Obama does exactly what he is ordered to do. And just like Bush, the Police State will go on even after Obama is gone.

          • Thank you!

            All the obama/democrat/liberal bashers should clear the stuffing out of their heads and recall it was the Bush administration who first admitted to warrantless wiretapping of US citizens and installed the first (known) generation of data scoopers. Everything that passes through a major telecom company is fed right into big brothers computers and has been since ’01 (at least).

            • @CommonSense….

              Thanks to you too. I have not said thanks to the democrats and commies for the greatness that they have done to USA since 2006. I apologize for the lateness of my gratitude. I was too busy working and should have known better.

              You guys have added billion new jobs and saved the dollar, thanks to you. Mucho Gracias!!!!

              I also appreciated the fact that you have helped Iran, Egypt, Syria, Libya, and others, to see your way or else.

              Thanks to you, we may see WWIII. I thought WWIII was long over-due anyway. It is a good way to send conservatives to one hot-spot while the libs continue their ways of good works here in this great USA.

              Again, just one big thanks. Thank you !!!!

              • Touche!! Ugly.

              • Ugly,
                Nice job keeping the two party lie going. The only reason you assumed incorrectly that I am a democrat is because you are too busy bad mouthin the left wing too realize the right wing is part of the same bird eating the life out of this coutry. The point of my comment is that republicans need to pull their heads out of their rectums and understand obama is simply continueing bush era policies.
                Warrantless broad spectrum wiretapping of US citizens has been done by both major parties.
                Waging war without a declaration of war by congress has been done by both major parties.
                Passing legislation to allow congress critters to do insider trading in secret was passed by both houses of congress with votes from both major parties.
                NDAA- both parties.

                Pull your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up.

        • The United Police States of Amerika.

        • And your tax dollars are paying for it!

        • We haven’t thought about anything like this for 236 years. Looks like the time might be getting close to revisit it again.
          Have you noticed Obama is staying way out of the light? There’s a reason, he plans to come in with a solution, most won’t like it but it’ll look better than what is going on.
          Holder, watch this; he is just going to keep giving the finger to Congress, there aint nothing going to happen to him, nothing not a dam thing. The IRS; they are going to promise they will correct the discretions of the past and be better stewards of our/theirs tax dollars. (They won’t change a thing except covering their asses a little better)
          This spying thing. They have an absolute mountain of data from back in 2007. What have they “haven’t” heard? Do you think any of us aren’t in some kind of pigeon hole by now? How do you like that smart phone NOW? Cong rates, you just been fucked, wholesale by people like Sen. DiFI and Obama. You gotta feel for the liberal liptards (not really) they were in bed with this bunch and they are going to come out on the slick end of the stick. They had better like eating a can of dog food. This administration is now done with them and no longer needs their assistance. Sorry liptards, “SUCKERS!” have another cup of Kool-aid.
          At this point it’s like they have had a hidden microphone in on us and we didn’t know it.
          It will start out as National Security issue is how they will sell it then it will turn into a local gotcha issue. They won’t let that data go to waste, not a chance. They will twist this shit back in on us, you watch!! They won’t get rid of it even if they are ordered too, its way to valuable. This is their thought on how to get incremental control of 325 million people a little bit at a time.

          • What’s really ” entertaining” is watching and listening to the multiple excuses being made by the left in defense of Obamy.
            The most common theme is ” Bush started it”. Jay Carney could just go on vacation and let the left do his job for him. And they are better at it!

            Some seem to be catching on. When the news is really bad, they just ignore it. It is fascinating .
            Fox News is evil..FoxNews is evil… Plenty on this site that go along with the chant. So what do you recommend. Jay Carney? Rachel Maddow? Joe Cup of Coffe? (Mika…mmmmm!)

            The end result? Nothing. Nada. Administrative(vacation)leave for a few. Promotions for others! Susan Rice. Move on sheep, nothing to see here.

        • They’ve been monitoring for decades..

          every keystroke

          every e mail

          every text

          every conversation

          I used to think Alex Jones was a nutjob after time..and left his diatribes years ago

          Now I believe everything he said..despite his non stop interruptions of every guest..

          Meanwhile mainstream media is aghast..

          well we knew it all along..didn’t we?


      2. Let me restate this from my last comment on the other post.

        Your privacy policies on everything, banks, credit cards, cell phones, computers, software erase domestic spying laws.

        Nothing is private anymore. If you have a computer or phone with you when you talk to your attorney, doctor or Pastor, you can be recorded.

        The liberals famous line is if you have nothing to hide what’s the problem? DOJ and NSA’s famous line is we have strict rules against misuse of your information. Yeah right just like the strict rules and criminal laws against the HHS, IRS and EPA using your information!! How did that work out for you??? Now NSA has tapped 129,000,000 MILLION Verizon customers; for what??? My God folks that’s almost half the US population.

        What’s next???????

        Have A Nice Day!!!

        • Yep… see it every day… getting more scarey by the week…

        • @Patriot One

          “The liberals famous line is if you have nothing to hide what’s the problem?”

          Since I am a conservative, and don’t listen to liberal talking points, the only people I have ever heard say that are Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Mark Levin.

          • While describing a liberals view of it under this administration.

            • Wrong… They said it BEFORE this administration back when it all started.

              • Smart people tried to warn that this would happen. This control has been the agenda all along. If security is such a big deal then why is the border still open and why are they bringing in tens of thousands from the Mid east and other places inhabited by dirtbags.

                • Obamacare is the control factor, it was never about healthcare as we already have the best healthcare the world can offer.

                  Maybe they will just allow conservative, independent and constitutionalist to die by denial of benefits. The purge begins in 5 months and 3 weeks. As of today there is no way to stop them!!!

          • People,

            The recrimination about meaningless labels such as Liberal v Conservative or Democrat v Republican serves no useful purpose. It serves the tyrant by dividing people who are pro-liberty. Dissipating our energy that could be used to resist them.

            Try this for a distinction:

            statists worship government, its power over us, its capacity to loot or even murder us.
            pro-liberty people support peaceful, productive individual self determination. Personal, political, economic, religious, sexual.

            Government, all gov, any gov sustains itself by coercion, theft and murder. The bi-lateral partisanship is a will-o’-the-wisp. Divides, weakens us.

            A person or policy advances statism or advances liberty. There are no two ways about it. Explained in plain terms a child can tell the difference.

            STATISM has been building the surveillance state since at least 1861. Rather than launch a historical rant supporting that I invite you to do your own research.

            Quit the partisan bickering. The power elite loves to see us at each other’s throats.

            • Absolutely right, its the Statist vs. Freemen and Liberty. Just look at the Syrian conflict, Syria is a pawn in a pipeline deal to the EU. The EU, Qatar and the Saudi’s want a pipeline so they are not so dependent on Russia for natural gas. The Russians don’t want it. Have you ever seen that on any news channel???

              War has three components, Good vs. Evil and natural resources; it is that simple.

        • The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

          “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

          The FBI, IRS, DOJ, DHS, CIA, the Supreme Court, and the White House are no longer a legitimate governing body, having broken their governing contract with the states (the Constitution) on so many occasions, as to render it broken and void.

          The fact that every State Government has allowed this to continue on so long a time, renders their governing contract just as void and illegitimate as the Federal Government’s.

          It’s way past time to start over, people.

          • I agree, its time for the pitch forks and torches to show up at all government, City, County, Federal and State.

          • “The FBI, IRS, DOJ, DHS, CIA, the Supreme Court, and the White House are no longer a legitimate governing body, having broken their governing contract with the states (the Constitution) on so many occasions, as to render it broken and void.”

            Our Government has broken the trust between We the People and Government, all three branches are guilty.

            Hell I called Sen. Carl Levin’s D MI. office, the staffer was frustrated with my call, said under the Patriot Act that this has been going on for years.

            What irritated me was how he described the Patriot Act, as if it’s authority superseded both congresses.

            A few with the power seems willing to take on the citizens of the USA, yea I’m fed up also.

          • We The People are the ones who need to shut it down, when it breaks you need to be ready.

          • I concur.

          • I think the states let it go on because they cant do without the fe d money they have been used to getting for so long, kinda like a crack whore, once their hooked they own your ass………..for real.

        • Patriot One

          Now with the TSA, not even your privates are private.

          • Great comments from all! Wait till it gets out that they can turn on cameras on any of your devices and have already been looking into your home and taking video.

            You may want to go watch the movie enemy of state again and keep your electronics in a faraday cage.

            What’s it going to take for the media to turn on these thugs.

            • @ Patriot One

              “What’s it going to take for the media to turn on these thugs.”


              It’s started. NOW, if the dumb ass libs can finally
              wake up maybe the dumb ass GOP4EVER crowd can too.

              • I watched the liberal news this morning ABC,CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC and while they mentioned the NSA dragnet it was glossed over and most moved right into the device war between Apple and Samsung. Nothing on the IRS or Benghazi.

                I’m not so sure they, the media, have turned on there GOD.

        • “if you have nothing to hide what’s the problem”

          the problem is that recently (the past few years) teaching your kids @the Bill of Rights, the 2nd amendment and such IS labelling you as an enemy combatant of this regime. DHS has targets with pregnant white women and civilians on them to desensitize military to whom the enemy IS.

          of course, libs don’t have to worry about this at all. they will only start to worry after all of us are “taken care of” and there is no one to defend their pansy asses.

      3. I am almost physically sick over what is happening to this country

        one day in the future maybe some of us will write books
        about how it used to be
        you know
        these days long ago when the law was obeyed
        when the Constitution was sacred
        those days

        we will live to chronicle the literal downfall of this nation
        step by step
        piece by piece

        • Too bad no one will be able to read them.

        • One day old paper documents, books and writings will be priceless. At the rate they’re going I suspect that the Internet will be purged of information and history will be re-written ah la George Orwell 1984.

          • kevin2 – you are right , save those books!
            i bought an entire 1978 encyclopedia at a libray sale for 15.00 . stuff like that could be priceless.

            • These ideas of books being hunted down and history re-written were once reserved for a movie screen play. An interestingly thing about movies in modern times like JFK ; they have more truth in them than the MSM News program that follows it at 11PM.

              Didn’t William Shakespeare say something to the effect that, “Life is a stage and we’re all actors”?

              • Kevin,you have to be careful about some things that you see in movies. While I think JFK is an outstanding film with lots of great actors, Oliver Stone said himself he took a lot of ” artistic license” with the film. In so many words,some is true,some is made up. Just one example is the speech Jim Garrison (Kevin Costner) gave in the courtroom at the trial of Clay Shaw,( Tommy Lee Jones),it’s extremely powerful in the movie,but the truth is it never happened. There are other problems about the real Jim Garrison and his case that were conveniently left out ,and that’s just one example.

                • I never said it was a documentary. The “talk” between the Army Col explaining the plans by the Washington Monument was not real but facts support what the Col said being real. That movie had more facts in it regarding JFK assassination than any school book in America.

                  I just read Richard Belzer’s book about the witnesses that died in questionable circumstances. Not too many people in good financial shape with no social problems that can be identified commit suicide by jumping out a 1st floor window cutting their throat in the process.

                  • Good points on the Belzer book. But I do want to add the fact that everybody knew the film was not a documentary.

      4. I’m going to end every call with “The Muslim Obama married a Wookie!” …just to make the listener spit coffee on his screen.

        • Looks more like a baboon! Dont insult Wookies,

          • Yes!:)

          • Looks more like a baboons ass.

        • I love it, also how about this one, God Bless Liberty and Freedom.

          I do like The Muslim Obama married a Wookie!

        • It’s good to laugh! Thanks!

      5. The talking heads on television talk about how all these mounting issues with the administration are putting increasing pressure on the Obama presidency. REALLY?

        Some think that all these targeted attacks on Americans and American business is exactly what this regime intends. The regime is NOT American and does not care what Congress or anyone else thinks for that matter.

      6. Please view the video of the government enforcers trying to coerce the people of Murfreesboro TN over the Muslim problem there.

        Not sure why Part 2 is first but Part 1 should be coming. This was an historic event in Tennessee and my thanks go out to all the patriots who were there! I think part 1 should show after viewing 2

        I sent this to Salvo and I hope he can follow up on it. This government means to make criminals of all God fearing tax paying Americans.

        • Got the link to video 1.

          Watch the U S Attorney from the eastern distric try to intimidate the people of Manchester TN. These muslims with the help of our muslim president intend to institute Shariah law. Knoxville News Sentinel page 5A on June 6.

      7. I’m one of those Verizon customers who’s been spied on anyway. Google “Operation Echelon” which has been run by NSA since the 90s. Even before I signed up with Verizon in 2006, I was already being spied on; this is just old news. There’s no such thing as privacy anymore unless you get totally disconnected from the system. just give it time and the entire system will fail from one cause or another. braveheart

        • I called Verizon to cancel if they would not tell my if my info was released, they couldn’t tell me, so if I can annoy Verizon along with others maybe they’ll fight to keep their base.

          They ask to give a week or two to see if this actually took or will take place, so for now I am a customer.

          In the mean time I have other basic cell phones that were given to me, I’ll by my minutes, there will be no name to the phone. I need it only for emergencies anyways.

          What if Verizon customers just for one or two months reduced their plan, thus reduces Verizon’s revenue. But tell them it’s in protest.

          Money talks, right!

        • I cancelled my cell phone a month ago. Had more to do with using it only ten minutes a year than being spied on but if contempt were a mountain ain’t no mountain high enough to express my contempt for Verizon. And the other corporate POS.

      8. Off Topic, but – the following is a very good article (link below). The author does a good job of explaining what is happening to us (one of the comments is also good). But, I don’t understand how so many people (tptb) are on the same, sick “wavelength”. Do they get together and plan how to handle chewed poptarts, pointed fingers, and remarks by children?

      9. … in time the zog amerikan fedgov stategov will push to hard against the once free american people and violence will erupt across the nation – it is this event we must prepare for … it is then freemen freewomen AmeriCan patriots will come together and strike back at the zog .


        N.O. ;Op

      10. Well, I can criticize BO for being “President in Wimp” for not pushing back on the Patriot Act, but this stuff has been going on for over 10 years and the wimp is just letting it continue so he won’t get criticized for being soft on “The War on Terror”.

        Most of the lemmings in this country, after seeing the Boston lockdown, seem willing to turn over the keys to their homes for further inspection.

        • Its deeper than that. The agenda is being advanced.

      11. FUCK OBAMA and his pack of Commie Criminals

      12. Paranoia is in bloom,
        The PR, transmissions will resume
        They’ll try to, push drugs that keep us all dumbed down
        And hope that, we will never see the truth around
        (So come on)

        Another promise, another seed
        Another, packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed
        And all the, green belts wrapped around our minds
        And endless, red tape to keep the truth confined
        (So come on)

        They will not force us
        They will stop degrading us
        They will not control us
        We will be victorious
        So come on

        Interchanging mind control
        Come let the, revolution takes its toll
        If you could, flick the switch and open your third eye
        You’d see that, we should never be afraid to die
        (So come on)

        Rise up and take the power back
        It’s time the, fat cats had a heart attack
        They know that, their time’s coming to an end
        We have to, unify and watch our flag ascend
        (So come on)

        They will not force us
        They will stop degrading us
        They will not control us
        We will be victorious
        So come on

        Hey, hey, hey, hey

        They will not force us
        They will stop degrading us
        They will not control us
        We will be victorious
        So come on

        ~MUSE “Uprising”

      13. The ACLU is a globalist organization that persecutes Christianity whenever it gets the chance. They don’t care about real freedom. Otherwise they would champion the rights of home schoolers, gun owners, and Christians.

      14. If you hear a click sound during the call you’ll know you’ve got company. By the way, NSA has been in on calls since the 1990’s. Since the 2000’s with the Patriot Act and the Comrade coming in, all calls are getting it. I’ll ask random strangers about strange sounds during there phone conversations and everyone states hearing 1 to 2 click sounds during the call duration. Sometimes immediately sometimes delayed into and so on. Remember there’s software screening for certain words you use too. The U.S.S.A. is here everybody. It-is-here!

      15. The Coup that begain under the Lincoln Adminstration to destroy the Republic is almost complete with the Obama Administration!

      16. CME..X-23.. looks better and better all the time!

      17. The U.S. government knows that the monetary implosion is ramping up, and like Argentina, our government knows a secondary alternative economy is rapidly evolving based upon gold, silver, and other real assets of value for trade to displace the dollar. And they have no control over it. The government needs to identify individual spending habits so it can charge us taxes whether or not we file tax forms to a corrupt IRS. It has been an utter failure in Argentina, and it will also fail here.

        If you need to get supplies or other goods, now is the time friends. “It” is not coming, it is already here.

      18. This conduct of O.I.G. (our infernal government) has been in place since 1928 – to identify “commumist activity” in the US. So is it really any suprise its still happening today? BTW, special thanks to Verizon for rolling over to big govt overwatch…. what a bunch of jackwagons!

      19. Fox News Released a Poll asking, “Do you Trust Obama/His Government?” 49% said Yes, 47% said No.

        One of the talking heads stated that Obama is having a
        rough 6 months into his 2nd term as President.

        IRS, which to me has always abused its power.
        Benghazi ~ Nothing but Cover up and a pack of Lies.
        AP wiretapping.
        Fast and Furious.

        Susan Rice Head of the NSA?????????????????

        Each day something else unsavory is uncovered
        under this regime.

        • Emily,

          It is Orwell’s “1984” and Huxley’s “Brave New World” rolled into one demented real life saga. If this story ends like those books, it will not end well.

          My concern is that I will find myself in a world surrounded by boot-licking propaganda junkies, who have fallen in love with their servitude, and cannot live without their daily fix of Big Brother telling them what to do and when to do it.

          Oh Wait! I think we’re already there!

          • @YH ~ I agree with you.

        • Hell Yea he’s an Okie!!!

      20. what the heck happened to the “print this article” option? Did we go paperless at SHTF or something? I like to keep a few now and then.

        • You can print through your browser too. Or use a shareware program to save as a PDF and print from there.

      21. Very sad but no surprise….to the NSA…you basturds who imagine youre in control of America and somehow in charge of the lives of the freemen are in the place where angels fear to tread,youre just to vain and stupid to know what that means….screw you all…I was born a freeman and will die a freeman at my own bidding and timing…not yours!
        I know that you know exactly who ole REB is and where I am, and I also know that you are all full of “yourself”(which translated smells bad and attracts lots of flies)and imagine yourselves to be all big and bad…well you know where to find me….out back plowing Gods green earth and planting…vigilantly hating your guts and defying you to do something about it…which you wont because youre all hot gas and no brass….anytime you bassturds,I can always use some more crap to plow under on this farm!

        • Tell it like it is Brother Reb.
          MOLON LABE

      22. How ironic, everyone’s got a microscope up their a_ _ and no one can see Obama’s records. AND WE ALLOW IT. Unbelievable!

        • Good read.

        • Rebellion? You must be high. Most of the sheep like having the boot on their neck.

      23. The government is using cell phone metadata to know everyone you call. They can cross check your phone call data with your social media data. They’ll know your political affiliations and your religious affiliations. They’ll put you either on a friend’s list or an enemy’s list. Then sometime during or after martial law they’ll take out their enemies.

      24. British author and World War II London Times journalist, Douglas Reed
        The money- power and the revolutionary – power have been set up and given
        share of the symbolic shapes (“capitalism” or “communism”) and sharply defined
        citadels (“America” or “Russia”). Suitably to alarm the mass-minded, the picture
        offered is that of a bleak and hopeless enmity and confrontation. … But what if
        similar men with a common aim secretly rule in both camps? … I believe any
        diligent student of our times will discover that this is the case.1
        Do we have examples of officials in the U.S. Government who are working toward a
        Zionist communist world government? President of the United States, Franklin Roosevelt, for
        one, was guided secretly by a communist agenda. Josephine Adams testified under oath before a
        subcommittee of the U.S. Senate that she acted as a courier between Earl Bowder, then Chief of
        the American Communist Party, and Franklin Roosevelt. She testified that she met with
        Roosevelt approximately 40 times during a three year period prior to Roosevelt’s death.2
        testified that the meetings took place either in Roosevelt’s Hyde Park home or the White House.3
        This testimony of Adams was later confirmed as true by Browder himself, who took pride in the
        fact that FDR appreciated the guidance Browder gave him.4
        A Congressional investigation has revealed that in 1996 Vice President Al Gore peddled
        his influence to the Chinese Communist Government through an Israeli intermediary.5
        Representative Louis T. McFadden in a May 2, 1934 radio address stated:
        It would be a monstrous mistake for any intelligent citizen of whatever nation to
        close his eyes to the evident fact that for nigh sixty years, the Jews have surely and
        rapidly though almost invisibly climbed to the heights of government wherefrom
        the masses are ruled. Politically, financially and economically they have seized
        the reigns of governments of all nations and their invas

        • The Rothschilds, Goldman Sachs, and Warburgs of Hamburg are primary holders of the Federal Reserve Bank.


        • CBS is owned by Murray Rothstein (aka Sumner Redstone).

        • NBC is owned by Brian Roberts.

        • ABC is owned by Sydney Bass with Robert Iger as CEO.

        • CNN is primarily owned by Aviv Nevo.

      25. Don’t be fooled!
        From its very inception, the so called 9/11 truth movement, otherwise known as the people who say that George Bush and his cronies did 9/11, has been ultimately led and controlled by the same people that perpetrated the dastardly attacks.

        Of course after the Mossad/Jews blew up the twin towers and building 7, they allocated their controlled mainstream media the task of pinning all the blame on some rag tag, cave-dwelling, box cutter wielding Arabs known as Al Qaeda (i.e. the toilet).

      26. The following are excerpts from the article:

        “At the end of the last century, the Jewish organizations consolidated a hellish plan to take over the world by sparking revolutions or taking control of the keys to governments in various countries, first and foremost the US and Russia.”

        “At the beginning of the twentieth century, the goal of the Russians, and with them the Jews and their global organizations, was to topple Russian imperialism, which they considered antisemitic. To this end, the Jewish organizations across the world sought to create a Jewish socialist system. Most of this system’s leaders were Jews, and they financed the Russian Revolution, which if truth be told was more of a Jewish revolution than a Russian one. This revolution’s main financier was the well-known Jewish capitalist Jacob Schiff of New York.”

        “The Jewish sense of superiority is typified by hypocrisy and zeal… The Jews are incapable of actualizing their influence and control for a simple reason, and that is that they are a demographic minority in every society in the world. For this reason, the Jews are trying by means of their trickery to weaken the national identity [of the non-Jews] and thus take over affairs and direct them to serve their interests. This is obvious everywhere in the world where there is a large community, both in Arab societies and in American society, such as the European-American community or African-American and even among the Muslims in the Arab world, where the Jews act by means of their control of the media, politics, and the economy in order to weaken the non-Jewish groups and bring about their disintegration, in order to secure their goals. How is this carried out?”

        “It is carried out by the principle of ‘divide and rule.’ The Jewish zealots fear, and fight, any racial non-Jewish coalition. In the Western countries, the Jews fight all the organizations attempting to safeguard European interests and tradition. In the non-European countries, the Jews constantly act to fracture and weaken the coalitions and the homogeneity of the main racial groups.”

      27. There’s no doubt- Skynet has arrived! And for anyone wondering how the U.S is directly involved in all the “Color” revolutions in the Middle East (and the subsequent installation of Islamist Gov.’s) you only need to look here:
        and then look up “Which Path to Persia?”

      28. There are more of them who want this kind of government interaction. I don’t care what they want do to us. The only satisfaction I would have is if their own system turned upon them and put a bullet in their head.
        All this crap is long in the tooth. Most of it speculation.

      29. And its not going to go away until what’s left of
        living, breathing, working population finally
        decide that they have had enough of the walking dead and the politicians that created them and fix this and the various other problems that are being forcibly shoved up our collective asses. Until then the dead will continue to feed on the living. And this tech-no-crap which is meant to smoke you out of your holes and get you running will continue.

        • @ Steve.

          The country is dead. It just don’t know it yet. If you think there was a chance to save it, you sure won’t find it here at this site with all the anger between us.
          There will be few connections, when you consider OPSEC and the differences in opinion here, would lead to conflict within your group later. If I do not know you after the conflict begins, I do not think I will take the chance of YOU really being one of US. That is the impression I get from some of you.
          We will be just as bad as those we oppose.

          • Slingshot,

            Unfortunately your comment is quite accurate. The “lines in the sand” have been very deeply scribed and do a very good job of keeping us from uniting against any common enemy. We have, as a nation, perhaps forgotton, likely never knew, what freedom means.

            The christians think all non christians are satans little puppets and think most self proclaimed christians are not “true” christians. The atheists and non christians fear being swept up in an american theocracy.

            The conservatives blame the liberals who blame the conservatives.

            The whites blame the minorities who blame the whites.

            Divide and conquer works. History and today prove it.

            Until we can all desire, respect, and defend individual liberty instead of desiring, defending, and respecting our own opinions we are doomed to be divided and ruled by a ruthless minority.

            Sort of hopeless, but there is always hope, no matter how fleeting.

            • Common Sense.

              I have been working on PICK 7 and have found 4 willing to undergo what we will face. We all know what is happening in our country. We are preparing the best we can. We are not young people. We understand that we may die in our efforts.
              We all agree 7 is it. Ease of communication, provisions, movement and concealment.

      30. So, exactly how much damage could this rogue government do to us if we had a EMP. It would knock out almost all of their powers. Wish more patriots were ready for a EMP.

        • Last time i checked an EMP doesnt do anything to humans, guns, ammo or resolve.

      31. The unseen use of cellular metadata is in the Date/Time and GPS = Who/Where/When.
        Say an armed insurrection occurs and starts the next revolution, but as in the movie “Patriot” all of the freedom fighters melt into the countryside. If they are carrying a cell phone they can be placed as an attendee to the festivities.

      32. Interesting, few drone bases are on the southern borders of Texas and Florida.

      33. IT’S OFFICIAL ;0p

        President Barry Soetoro of the Fascist Banana Republic of ZOG AmeriKa just signed a New Presidential Order …

        Barry has ordered the DHS Bull.D-in-Charge Director Janet Napolitano to change All airports ‘Welcome to the USA!’ signs effective immediately nationwide to …

        ” WELCOME TO THE JEW.S.A. !’

        ” So … ‘Shalom’ Brothers and Sisters of JEW.S.A. !”

        N.O. ;0p

        • 3N3my:whatever


          • had ya’ goin’

            Bwaaahahaha ;0) i made a funny ;0p

            • 3n3mywhatever:

              “I made a funny”

              NO YOU LIED

              • ;0p

        • Boycot all that crap.

          • Smithfield is at Krogers or Aldis.
            I bought a ham for Thanksgiving and it was one of the above.
            Didn’t buy Smithfield then and won’t now!! 🙂

            • Its beside the point but Smithfield is also one of the more rotten corporations in the world food business….they pour more pig crap into rivers and criks than theres water in many cases and they are a committed supporter of the govicorp takeover of the food supply…just as evil as monsanto or nestle…so now that the red commie pinkos own it how much worse do you suppose it will get?….really think real Americans will keep the jobs?…how long before all kinds of commie scum migrate to work in these plants?…don’t suppose they’ll get any special hiring preferences do you?….how long before they move it to china?…and that commie country has one of the worse if not the worst food safety record on the planet…of course barry the fairy and his USDA/FDA wont allow them to adulterate the ham and chicken right?….buy their crap and you help them pull off their mission….spread the word and buy from your local natural farmer or grow your own….this is war…don’t think so?…they hope you don’t!

      34. Israel as described by US Special Forces officer Joe Cortina

        its worth waiting for Joe Cortina to speak … he conforms the truth of whats happening in israehell … DEMOCIDE and GENOCIDE of Palestinians in the own homeland by the israehell jews supported by zog ameriKa .

        Nov 17, 2012

        My name is Joe Cortina. I am a retired Florida businessman who has done substantial world traveling – some purely as a ‘tourist’ and some in areas – shall I say- ‘nothing to do with vacationing’. I am a former special operations officer and have done intelligence investigator work for over 15years – some of it overseas – mostly in Central America – but also in the Mid-East. My political posture is ‘conservative’ and my religious values are Christian.

        Exposing lies and revealing the truth was what I did professionally for a long time.

        I have hunted REAL terrorists in jungles with Salvadorian Rangers and Marines – so I am not a stranger to dangerous environments and am familiar with basic protocols of civilized conduct regarding civilians and the military – something that the Israelis do not consider applicable to them.

        For anyone wishing to challenge my credibility – I am willing to show credentials. I have a flawless civic record, an honorable military record and have never committed a crime nor ever been accused of such. I am mentioned as my father’s son in the registry – ‘PIONEER FLORIDA’. My grandfather was a pioneer in Florida in the most literal sense, and my
        father was a respected businessman and foreign diplomat.

        I was invited to Israel by a former military comrade who attained a substantial rank and subsequently ended up as the ranking military attache’ from our govt., to the Israeli military (IDF). I went places and saw things only a hand full of ‘private sector’ Americans will EVER experience. My ‘specially authorized’ trips included Gaza City, Hebron and areas of
        militarily protected Israeli ‘settlements’. I will touch on only a few of what I considered the most revealing experiences. I can’t stress this enough. What I write here is but a tear in a sea of misery that I witnessed.

        • This is important. Most “sheeple” don’t understand the FACT that WE can “RECALL/IMPEACH” ANY elected official from the PRESENT-DENT, all the way down the proverbial line of so-called elected “shitheads”.

          And to ALL the ISRAHELL FIRSTERS…YOUR time is now at hand. Time to aggressively start “culling” the herd of traitors to OUR country, constitution, and Bill of Rights. May chronic FEAR of patriotic reprisal grant ALL OF YOU very little sleep at night. WE ARE WATCHING YOU even more than YOU ARE WATCHING US!

          YOU will ultimately face JUSTICE. I prefer to skip the “bought/paid for courts” and proceed directly to the PUNISHMENT PHASE! ;)!

          • yental:

            I think Hitler made that rant in 1935. Could be wrong, 1936??


            • I don’t know the intent of “the comment”, however I will state my opinion.

              The “state of Israhell” was established post WWII by a virtual “deal with the devil”. The sovereign nation of Palestine has all but disappeared since that “deal was made”.

              YOU want a present day, real time holocaust experience…claim Palestinian citizenship and relocate to the Gaza Strip. Then come back here and equate me with “Hitler and the holohoax”.

              Zionist and “phony lineage false jews” are Satan’s children. Countless millions of Russian’s died at the hands of these imposters of “Gawd’s chosen ones”. (Lenin/Stalin)

              Over the decades, how many American military and Arab nation people have died for the sake of the “state of Israhell”? I don’t know the exact numbers…I doubt anyone does. We are about to engage in WWIII…for one STUPID REASON…Israhell.

              • @Yental … Respect !

                Well Said Brother !

                N.O. ;0p

              • @

                • @Yental

                  highnoon is a zionist supporter pro-israel zio-troll .


                  • Yep, but at least the “site handle” is appropriate to the “shoot out” that is very soon coming. Meet US in the town square @ “highnoon”! The Zionist, State of Israhell story line is finally becoming fully transparent to any and all that have been paying attention!

                    I expect the ZIO-TROLL-PATROL will be out in very high numbers as the TRUTH continues to emerge. My opinion…Too LATE, WE got-your-number now!

              • I told you how much I like you speak for me so many times…like 99.9 % of the time.
                Well stated!! 🙂

                • Thanks JayJay, good to know “informed minds” and true knowledgeable patriots are still “roaming” the site. I’m sure you “know the feeling”…Am I REALLY the only one that seems to “get-it”?

                  No. There is an ever growing number of “I get it” companions/minds in the “mix”.

                  Regardless, the near future is about to become a testament to the “prepper mindset/lifestyle”. Stay tuned in, vigilant, and focused. The “roller coaster” is at the apex of the first hill on what appears to be a very scary ride.

      35. The USA’s irrational relationship with Israel

        When signing up for the military, US soldiers swear to serve their country and defend the constitution with their life.

        They march in harm’s way to the end of the earth and sail the seas, following orders from their leaders. In return, they expect leaders to uphold the constitution and honour their sacrifices.

        However, this was not the case for the 34 American sailors who lost their lives and the 171 injured when their leaders surrendered them on an Israeli altar on 8 June 1967.

      36. I’ve been preaching this story for more than 2 years. James Bamford, THE SHADOW FACTORY. NSA has had the three major fiber optic cable hubs “mirrored”. 100 acre server farms with thousands of servers storing terabytes of data. Ever credit card swipe, email, text, website post and phone call.

        It should be noted this guy exposed the NSA in the 80’s. Very interesting is that in his book BODY OF SECRETS he verifies, using CIA/NSA documents, that Israel started the war against Egypt in the 60’s. Ther was a ‘fishing trawler’ full of intel personnel from the US Gov in federal waters in the area. Israeli jets sunk that ship, shredded it to bits. But some personnel and intelligence tape survived. They wanted to prevent the world from knowing the truth.

        I’m not anti-Jew, but I am anti Israel,ever since I read this book, as they would use our money and military as their own, and cut us down at the knees if it suited their country’s purpose.

        Not only that, America tried very hard to start a war with Cuba, making it look as though Cuba was the aggressor. The same with Vietnam. Read the book.

      37. John 8:44

        Israehell ~

        You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

        ~ John 8:44

        N.O. ;0p

      38. President Obama’s Dragnet

        “The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the 9/11 attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers.”

        the Obama administration
        synonymous with failure
        synonymous with fraud

        and lets not leave out such despicable characters as Feinstein,McCain,Graham and Chambliss

        can you imagine how things would have turned out if characters such as this were around in 1776 ?

        there would be no United States of America

      39. Excessive rule of law is far more likely than no rule of law.

        • More likely excessive rule or law with entirely new rules.

      40. This just Pisses me off … REVOLUTION CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH !!! ;0p

        Killed by Israel, Eaten by Dogs
        Ola Attallah, IOL Correspondent

        Jan 15, 2009

        GAZA CITY – “Oh, God! I have never seen such a terrible scene,” cried Kayed Abu Aukal.

        The emergency doctor could not believe himself seeing the remains of what was days back Shahd, a full-fleshed 4-year-old Palestinian girl.

        She died when an Israeli shell was fired at the backyard of her home in the Jabalya refugee camp northern Gaza strip, where she was playing.

        When her parents attempted to rush to the rescue of their kid, who fell to the ground amid a pool of her blood, rains of Israeli bullets kept them a distance.

        For the next five days Shahd’s which was left lying in the open left for dogs to tear out.

        “The dogs did leave one single part of the poor baby’s body intact,” said a tearful Abu Aukal.

        “We have seen heart-breaking scenes over the past 18 days. We picked up children whose bodies were torn or burnt, but nothing like this.”

        For five days Shahd’s brother, Matar, and cousin, Mohamed, tried in vain to reach her body. They were fired at by the Israeli occupation forces every time.

        Seeing the body of the little angel torn to piece by the assaulting dogs, the two made one final attempt, and it was their last.

        They were showered by Israeli bullets before they could reach Shahd’s body, joining a long list of more than 920 Palestinians killed by Israel since December 27.


        Omran Zayda, a young neighbor, said the Israelis knew very well what they were doing.

        “They chased her family and prevented them from reaching to her body, knowing that the dogs would eat it,” he said.

        “They are not just killing our children, they are intentionally doing so in the most heinous and inhuman ways.”

        Zayda said words, and even cameras, can not describe the horrific scene.

        “You can never imagine what the dogs have done to her innocent body,” he said, fighting back his tears.

        Many Palestinians insist Shahd was not the first or only such case.

        In Jabalya, when Abd Rabu’s family was trying to bury three of its dead, the Israeli forces started firing at them, witnesses said.

        They then released their dogs at the bodies, deserted by mourners who sought shelter from the Israeli gunfire, they added.

        “What happened was awful and unthinkable,” Saad Abd Rabu, the deceased uncle, told IOL.

        “Our sons died before our eyes and we were even prevented from burying them,” he cried.

        “The Israelis just released their dogs at their bodies, as even they have not done enough.”

        N.O. ;0p

        • Sorry c3po or whatever the fuck your name is. I meant to thumbs down. I don’t understand what the hell you keep blabbering about. You like the Palestinians? Hate Israel? How bout we concentrate on taking control over our own country and stay focused a little. Some of you guys are royally screwing up a good website with all this irrational chatter and name calling. WTF?



            N.O. ;0p

          • Quote of Ariel Sharon of Israehell:

            “We (jews) Control America!”

            N.O. ;0p

          • Relax…he’s an obvious 0 worrior …hahaha 😉

            (yes, that was mispelled on purpose)… hahaha 😉
            as was…nevermind…hahaha

            Bottom line: he/she/it = fool…

      41. Had to laugh at the Verizon commercial that just aired … for the “Share Everything” plan …

      42. mynameisjoecortina

        Capt. Joe Cortina – U.S ARMY SPECIAL FORCES

        *his words not mine ~ n.o. ;0p

        IDF Jews – Bullies – Perverts – Terrorists – Blasphemers AND – Especially – COWARDS!

        Capt. Joe Cortina ~ I spent sometime living among the “Children Of Satan” as exposed by Jesus in the Book of John 8-44 The place they live is the world’s largest unflushed toilet AKA IsraHELL – AKA Satan’s ‘corporate hqs.’ While there I had a close association with the world’s largest institutionalized terrorist organization – the IDF – or IsraHELL defense cowards.They love to target schools hospitals and public utilities necessary for life. Spineless sniveling cowards.

        It ‘defends’ nothing and spends 99% of the time murdering defenseless women and children – raping – stealing and committing criminal acts whose barbarism and sadistic brutality have no equal in military history. The jewish people are and always have been functional psychopaths – greedy lying treacherous inbred perverts and social outcasts to the rest of humanity. They begin training their children hate deception greed lust betrayal treason and cruelty from the day they are spawned.

        They are taught that they are somehow superior to all other humans and that we cattle ( goyem) are inferior only fit to serve them as slaves. I witnessed these detestable loathsome attributes every day in one form or another. Their military is nothing more than a gaggle of mammas boys who have been given big guns authority and taught to attack only the defenseless the helpless the the weak the sick the injured and the elderly.

        I have worked with few foreign military – but those of which I have been exposed ( Soviet Spetsnaz, SAS, Salvadoran Marines and Atlacatl rangers( their special forces) were all formidable troops who had unquestionable valor.

        The beady eyed rat faced jews, however – were the most cowardly scum I have ever seen. I would hear them bragging about killing some 5 or 6 year old ‘rag head or if they felt extra brave that day, they might tackle beating to death some 14 year old kid.

        Mosques weren’t their only targets for desecration and destruction. These reptiles ALSO targeted Christian churches with equal hatred and barbaric sadism. I had been informed by Red Cross volunteers there, that it was common to see a church ransacked the altar defecated on ( with the feces spread on the walls and images and statues of Christ and the Virgin Mary) and of course they urinated on everything that they might consider holy to a Christian.

        OH and by the way – it has been verified that these blasphemous outrages against ALL decency were not only approved by commanders but were participated in by them. There are only bad jews and worse jews. Been there seen that.

        I personally heard them mock America, Christians and especially their loyalty to America (if they were dual citizenship reptiles) many times. The jews used children as human shields – beat them up in schoolyards and in their homes. These brave ‘warriors’ destroyed their crops – demolished private homes – humiliated young and old women – punched pregnant women in the stomach and worse. One of their favorites was to beat a child to death in front of his parents – in hopes that the parents would give them cause to also murder the parents.

        One of their special loves was to murder a pregnant mother AND her innocent unborn child at the same time. It was SO popular among these coward civilian killers that they actually wore a T-shirt that showed a young mother with a bull’s-eye over her belly with the caption: ONE SHOT – TWO KILLS. The only ethnicity on EARTH which would PROUDLY demonstrate such abysmal cowardice is the jew!

        N.O. ;0p

        Refuse to cooperate with any government anything,
        pay taxes late or not at all, file paperwork improperly, DO NOT CONFORM AT ALL
        When things start to unravel,
        HELP IT ALONG!

        • Dammit, I cannot get the “system” to allow me to “thumb up” more than once!

        • Amen to that…withdraw consent,refuse any benefits and do anything you can to jimmy up the works…take back this nation!

      44. Israeli Jew MOSSAD Snipers are SHOOTING KILLING U.S. Marines in Iraq

        • Juba is Jew IDF Sniper, shot 400 US Marines inside Greenzone ?

          Juba is an IDF sniper hunting US troops in Iraq using hi-tech Israeli wi-fi cams linked to HQ then uplinked to net in real time he had document +200 confirmed kills.

          M1 Abrams tanks are service by numerous Israeli mechanics like Rhambo in 1990 Gulf served in IDF. The motherboards are Israeli made just like Pres. Clinton’s Downed AF2 Chopper killing all on board as Bill cancelled his trip.

          These motherboard trigger C4 explosive IED which are not so “improvised devices” but real hi-tech plastic explosive bombs. These perps have been caught and released by higher ups at checkpoints taking shots at our soldiers. Juba is a Network of Mossad & IDF, aka MEGA.

          Cue in the cheesy Arab music and you have some false flag Mossad fun and games .

          N.O. ;0p

      45. 3n3mywhatever: “RESPECT”

        In any war between the civilized man and the savages support the civilized man.

        not my statement. I saw it somewhere

        • 3N3MYwhatever: “RESPECT”

          “the civilized man” is Israel

          “the savages” are Islamic Maniacs

          I’m glad we agree. Thank you for the only up click I got as I type this. Sir

          • * “the civilized man” is NOT Israel .

            ya’ got me … there won’t be a Second time Douche Bag .

            ‘ Fool me Once … Shame on You !’

            ‘ Fool me Twice … Shame on Me !’

            N.O. ;0p

            • There it is folks. Love him or hate him.

      46. “A nation…cannot survive treason from within…the traitor …wears the face of his victims, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly…he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared…….” Cicero, 42 B.C.E.

        Keep the FATH

      47. “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
        William Pitt the Younger, British Prime Minister

        Keep the FAITH

        • That and its always for the children… 🙁

      48. Time for investors to duck and cover?

        “The canary in the financial coal mine is beginning to choke.”

        Proposals for additional “Capital controls” are being discussed.

        1) Investors ability to withdraw money during a time of financial crisis

        2) Significant exit fees on investors during during times of financial crisis.

        Discussions of “bail-ins” (as occurred in Cyprus) for banks in the U.S.

        American Thinker dot com

      49. Advisement of counsel:
        I can neither confirm nor deny I have read this article… 😉

      50. ‘Give me the Beach Boys and free my soul, I want to get lost in their rock n roll and then Drift Away’….Dobie Gray.

        I don’t mind communists from Russia, because that is who they are.

        I hate the so-called American Communist, because these phony bastards have used America to get their control. They have used the system for their wealth and control. And we the peasants have allowed it.

        Is 2014 the final count down?

      51. I’m tired of always hearing that everything is Bush’s fault.Our present(absent) leader has had over 4 years to correct these so called mistakes. If what Bush did was bad behavior why does Obama follow with bad behavior? He has expanded the Patriot Act far beyond anything anticipated. Its all about control whether its the Patriot Act or the IRS or any number of agencies that do whatever the hell they want to. More is coming,you can bet on it!

        • I hear you Jim in Va. Fortunately history is logged, as long as the truth is written. I agree I’m tired of hearing it is Bushes fault, but under his watch DHS and the Patriot Act was pieced together and put in play.

          Now we have an Adm. hell bent on destroying us thru the use of the DHS and Patriot Act.

          This is what gets me as I tell family (Sheeple) that Bush didn’t start DHS, FEMA and the Patriot Act. It was previous laws and E.O’s passed by past Adm. then Bush took the pieces of the puzzle and over night created the DHS.

          Please correct me if wrong, under the Carter and Reagan Adm. Rex 84 and Operation Cable Splicer were formed.

          When ever has our Government organized and created an organization with the capability of being operational and functioning almost over night? You can say the same thing about Health Care.

          As mention repeatedly on this site, our Presidents appear to be taking their orders from another authority.

          Thus lies the problem, expecting the Sheeple to grasp this when many of them doesn’t even see our B.O.R being torn apart.

      52. Heads up. Natchez shooters supply has a shipment of various Rainier plated bullets right now 10:15 PM for any reloaders out there. .40, 357, 9mm. I just picked up 1500 myself.

      53. I have Sprint. They Phuck me every month…

      54. As Braveheart pointed out, Project Echelon was instituted decades ago to record every single phone call (including from pay phones– remember those?)

        My good people, let me make a few points:

        a- The ‘Verizon’ news is an extension or a yet another part of a [needless!] multi-surveillance
        program to infiltrate not just our GOD-GIVEN free spirits but the stuff of our very lives and
        of course, we will RESIST! By the way, Verizon by terms of the agreement was forbidden
        to speak about it in any way, let alone acknowledge its existence.

        The former President bullied all cable providers to do his illegal dirty work and then he
        ended up pardoning them as he was leaving office.

        b- There is a Patent online depicting your flatscreen as a camera [Yes, you read that correctly!]
        Full disclosure: every so often I ‘cuss’ at it– it’s quite therapeutic.

        c- VERY important: when you find the Internet becomes shut down [note; NOT your ‘cable’,
        but the Net], IMMEDIATELY implement all protective measures.


        Shutting down the Internet (for whatever ‘bogus’ reason) will choke flow of information,
        especially amongst ourselves, let alone others, and will serve as the pretext for oncoming

        Be alert, be aware. (You already are if you come to this site, right.)

        Lastly, though their darkness continues, they will not win simply because “There is not enough light to put out the light of one small candle.” – The Christophers

        Stay in the Light, my good people.

        No need to “cause” or start anything, but trust your God before your government, especially when it becomes or acts UN’godly’.

        The Lone Ranger

      55. Scarlett

        Don’t ask your government for your Privacy, take it back:

        Browser Privacy: HTTPS Everywhere, AdBlock Plus + EasyList, Ghostery, NoScript (FireFox), NotScript(Chrome)
        VPNs: BTGuard (Canada), ItsHidden (Africa), Ipredator (Sweden), (Cyprus / Netherlands)
        Internet Anonymization: Tor, Tor Browser Bundle, I2P
        Disk Encryption: TrueCrypt (Windows / OSX / Linux), File Vault (Mac).
        File/Email Encryption: GPGTools + GPGMail (Mac), Enigmail (Windows / OSX / Linux)
        IM Encryption: Pidgin + Pidgin OTR
        IM/Voice Encryption: Mumble, Jitsi
        Phone/SMS Encryption: WhisperSystems, Ostel, Spore, Silent Circle ($$$)
        Google Alternative: DuckDuckGo
        Digital P2P Currency: BitCoin
        Live Anonymous/Secure Linux: TAILS Linux

        If you have any problems installing or using the above software, please contact the projects. They would love to get feedback and help you use their software.

        Have no clue what Cryptography is or why you should care? Checkout the Crypto Party Handbook or theEFF’s Surveillance Self-Defense Project.

        Just want some simple tips? Checkout EFF’s Top 12 Ways to Protect Your Online Privacy.

        If you liked this comment, feel free to copy/paste it.

      56. This is a seven year old Bush administration program. Can we please put the blame where it is due. When these fascist policies were enacted by President Bush every conservative I knew were cheerleaders for this crap. I said then conservatives would surely regret it when the next liberal president got to play with all of Bush’s policies. Well, here we are folks.

        • Randy is dead right. I am as hard core, right wing conservative (with a strong streak of libertarianism with regards to individual liberty) as anyone can be, and I tried to explain to some of my ‘conservative’ acquaintances who were too stupid to recognize that not one member of the Bush family was a real conservative – they are all greasy neo-cons and globalists and war mongering/war profiteering cockroaches – and I tried to explain to these numbskulls that these un-Constitutional power grabs and violations of our Bill of Rights and the rule of law could NOT BE allowed, not even by a so-called ‘GOP’ administration.

          These nitwits refused to listen. Which shows you how freaking dumb the average R voter appears to be – and it clearly shows that these idiots lack the necessary long range foresight that is needed to see where these examples of totalitarianism will always eventually lead.

      57. Where did Big Brother put my short and curly cream?

      58. Big Bro can kiss my galled stanky…

      59. “Postscript: This is not some “post-9/11 reality”. Spying on Americans started before 9/11. ”

        This is a very important passage in this article and needs to be expounded upon.

        Does everyone recall how, when the illegal wiretapping and snooping without a court warrant scandal first broke into the mainstream news, the Bush criminal cabal immediately sent out their spin doctors and tried to justify it by claiming that it all began after 9-11 and they were simply doing this to ‘better protect the American people from those awful terrorists’? This lame excuse, at the time, seemed to allow these criminal SOBs to slide by and nobody got busted or went to jail over this clear violation of the 4th Amendment and the FISA laws that strictly prohibited such activities.

        The next thing that these despicable Bush cabal cockroaches did, to demonstrate their jewish neo-con chutzpah and nauseating arrogance and utter contempt for the U.S. Constitution – was to grant retroactive immunity to all of the telecommunications companies who participated in these illegal wire tapping and snooping activities. Well, guess what?

        “Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3.”

        So, as we see – Bush and his neo-cons basically took a gigantic kosher shit on the Constitution and Rule of Law and the greasy slabs of maggot infested hyena excrement who call themselves our Senators and Congressmen let these greasy maggots get away with it.

        But, let’s get back to the original statement that I cited at the top of my comment. These Bush neo-con criminals started this illegal wiretapping within weeks after taking office, and this fact was later revealed after the scandal broke into the mainstream. That is the key detail that I want to focus on.

        They started illegally wiretapping millions of Americans, without first obtaining court warrants and all this started at least 8 months before September 11, 2001. So, the question is: Why?

        Here are my suspicions. First of all, Bush and his neo-con gang of war criminals were directly involved in the 9-11 false flag terrorist attacks on America. This operation had been in the planning stages for a number of years, perhaps for over a decade prior to the actual event. Chris Bollyn’s book ‘Solving 9-11’ chronicles the chain of events that took several years to unfold and to allow the conspirators to get everything into place, in preparation for 9-11-01. So, why the need to wiretap the entire country?

        I believe that they really wanted to wiretap and monitor the communications of everyone who was involved in the operation and in the conspiracy – because they did not want to risk the possibility that some co-conspirator might get cold feet and blow the whistle at the last minute and ruin their carefully planned 9-11 “New Pearl Harbor” style event, that the PNAC neocon jews said they would need to get the gullible American public to support starting 100 years worth of wars against all of Israel’s enemies. Thus, to make sure their “team” all kept mum about the upcoming incident – they had to monitor them, and if anyone was found to be showing signs of squealing, then one of those Mossad hit teams that Sharon boasted he had stationed in the USA could take the necessary action to silence the whistleblower.

        So, why wiretap the entire country and not just the designated individuals? I suspect that they realized it would be too risky to go to a judge and give them a list of names and get authorization to wiretap them – because that would be creating a list of the conspirators and that would become a paper trail that might later be noticed by the 9-11 investigations that they knew would be forthcoming. Some wise guy investigator might study that list of names and decide to find out what all those people had in common, and that information might lead back to the big fish who were involved in planning this whole 9-11 event. So, they could not risk getting court approved wiretap warrants on a specific group of people – so, to get around that, they simply did a blanket wiretap and snooping operation on all Americans – when they were actually probably zeroing in on the specific group who they wanted to monitor.

        The rest of us were the camouflage they needed to conceal who they were really spying on. Once the operation was set up, though – and all the technical capabilities were in place – they decided to continue to use their new surveillance capability and to say to hell with the law and the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

      60. While most are following the news I have found many do not research where everything began and how. So, allow me a few minutes of your time by viewing my links. Then you will have information than most!

        Hillary Clinton Admits the U.S. Government Created al-Qaeda Published on Apr 10, 2011

        US history – “How Jimmy Carter & I Started the Mujahideen” – Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor 1977-1981 (Jan.1998)

      61. It’s time to infiltrate their legion, it’s empire vs rebellion time, SHIT has just hit the FAN , will you wait until they show up at your door?? Or when they serve the banksters and throw you in the street? I don’t know about you , but when that happens I’ll meet theiir description of a terrorist and wham, off to FEMA Camp , then I’ll be informed I have no rights ever again, if I’m even allowed to live.
        It’s seriously lock n load time, time to make humans proud, not just americans. This is our Neo moment, keep running in the matrix or stand and fight………
        I love my family, but what’s the point if we’re lower than slaves, assumed guilty until proven innocent(not that you’ll have the chance), I will fight and they will sing songs about it (60’s style)
        We need every available person to go to whatever office of govt you can find…it’s the only way we’ll win
        Big E

      62. This is the result of and the reason for modern technology. We as consumers and users want access to everything, but if the government has access to us we have a fit. Why is anyone surprised that government spying is the result of all this connectivity? That is actually the whole reason behind cell phones, iPhones, the Internet, online banking, loyalty cards, etc-etc-etc; nothing is for our benefit, and it’s time we take a hard look at all this and wise up.

      63. Of course the government is monitoring all of our calls for content, whatever…they are strictly following the guide to social psychology. Anyone ever read the Social Animal? The first few chapters are a lively explanation on conformity by man…and the studies that prove it. Change your conformity change the world. For a deeper understanding of self, man, society, please see Rules of the World:

        And Games and the individual:

      64. Can you hear me now??? Washington gofuck yerself

      65. In truth, Big Brother is watching them. Jesus Christ is in charge. He told us these things would happen so we would not be dismayed when they do. This battle belongs to the Lord. At the end they will pray that their mountains will fall on them. Today God is allowing them time and He is correcting us. We are not made to be self reliant but God reliant. If you are a prepper and God is not first in your life you are probably stocking up for a nice widow. Some will hide in the forrest and disease will kill them. Some will hide in the cities and war will kill them. Put your treasures in heaven not in your back yards. Soon their will be famine of the word and you will not be able to get the gospel out freely. Use your resources for God not to keep yourself alive. Matt 6:33 says he will take care of you. Israel was punished severily when David took a census of his military might because he was being self reliant and not trusting in God for his protection. Do not give way to a spirit of fear which is from your enemy satan. Watch and pray always…Don’t get into the pitfall of prepping and being self reliant. Keep God first in your life while there is time.

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