If You Want To Know The Truth About The Unemployment Rate Read This Article

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    This article was written by Michael Snyder and originally published at his End of the American Dream blog.

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    The Obama administration is telling us that the unemployment rate in the United States has fallen to 5.1 percent, but does that number actually bear any resemblance to reality?  On Friday, news outlets all over America celebrated the fact that the U.S. economy added 173,000 jobs in August.  We were told that the unemployment rate has fallen to a seven year low and that wages are going up.  So everything must be getting better for the middle class, right?  After all, isn’t that what the official numbers are telling us?

    The financial markets are buzzing over this news because the unemployment rate has fallen into a range that the Federal Reserve has typically considered to be “full employment”, so there is an expectation that the Fed may raise interest rates shortly.  The following comes from Business Insider

    The unemployment rate fell to 5.1% in August, the lowest since April 2008. This was lower than forecast, and put the measure in the middle of the 5.2% – 5.0% range the Federal Reserve considers to be “full employment.” The economy added 173,000 jobs, below the expectation for 217,000, although August payrolls are usually revised higher. We also saw some wage growth, with average hourly earnings rising 0.3% month-on-month, and 2.5% year-over-year. The payrolls gain for July was revised up to 245,000 from 215,000.

    But do we actually have anything close to “full employment” in this country?

    Of course not.

    The truth is that the only way they have been able to get the official “unemployment rate” to steadily go down over the past few years is to eliminate hundreds of thousands of Americans that are chronically unemployed from the official labor force numbers every month.  Jim Quinn elaborated on this very eloquently in one of his recent articles

    Now for the plunge in the unemployment rate. That comes from the household survey. The fact is that 220,000 more Americans entered the work force in August. According to this survey, 196,000 more Americans were employed. In the real world this would result in the unemployment rate going UP. Not in the Bizarro world of the BLS. They expect the peasants to believe that 261,000 Americans, of their own free will, voluntarily left the workforce in August because they don’t need a job to pay the bills, feed themselves, and keep a roof over their heads. The idiocy of this ridiculous assumption is breathtaking to behold. Only an Ivy League educated economist, CNBC shill, or complete and utter moron could believe this drivel.

    At this point, the percentage of Americans that are actually considered to be “participating in the labor force” is the lowest that it has been since 1977.

    According to the Obama administration, more than 94 million working age Americans are “not in the labor force”, and so they don’t count as being unemployed…

    A record 94,031,000 Americans were not in the American labor force last month — 261,000 more than July — and the labor force participation rate stayed stuck at 62.6 percent, a 38-year low, for a third straight month in August, the Labor Department reported on Friday, as the nation heads into the Labor Day weekend.

    Personally, I believe that the civilian employment-population ratio provides a much more accurate picture of the employment situation in this country.  It is a measure of the percentage of the working age population that actually has a job.

    As you can see from the chart below, the percentage of working age Americans that are actually working has barely risen from the depths of the last recession…

    Employment Population Ratio August 2015

    Does that look like an “employment recovery” to you?

    It sure doesn’t to me.

    According to John Williams of shadowstats.com, if honest numbers were being used we would actually have an unemployment rate of 22.9 percent in this country.

    But if the mainstream media reported that number, everyone would be talking about a “Great Depression” and we would all be complaining about what a horrible job Obama was doing.

    Sadly, the cold, hard truth is that the U.S. economy has been collapsing for a very long time.  According to CBS News, the number of “ultrapoor” Americans that live on less than 2 dollars a day has doubled since 1996…

    By one dismal measure, America is joining the likes of Third World countries.

    The number of U.S. residents who are struggling to survive on just $2 a day has more than doubled since 1996, placing 1.5 million households and 3 million children in this desperate economic situation. That’s according to “$2.00 a Day: Living on Almost Nothing in America,” a book from publisher Houghton Mifflin Harcourt that will be released on Sept. 1.

    The measure of poverty isn’t arbitrary — it’s the threshold the World Bank uses to measure global poverty in the developed world. While it may be the norm to see families in developing countries such as Bangladesh and Ethiopia struggle to survive on such meager income, the growing ranks of America’s ultrapoor may be shocking, given that the U.S. is considered one of the most developed capitalist countries in the world.

    How can that be possible if we are close to “full employment”?

    In a recent article on the Economic Collapse Blog, I explained that 46 million Americans used food banks in one recent year, and that lines start forming at some U.S. food banks as early as 6:30 in the morning because people want to get something before the food supplies run out.

    No, economic conditions are definitely not “good” in this nation.

    We are being told lies by our politicians and by the mainstream media.  The numbers simply do not match what is going on in the real world.

    We can even see this in some of the wealthiest areas of the entire country.  In New York City, for example, they are dealing with an explosion in the number of people that are sleeping on the streets

    They are sleeping in front of the Empire State building, sprawled in front of the doors of Macy’s, and panhandling outside Grand Central.

    New York is in the grip of a homeless epidemic so bad that it has raised fears of the city slipping back into the disorder of the 1970s and 1980s.

    The city’s police chief this week said that as many as 4,000 people are now sleeping rough in the city, in a crisis which even the city’s ultra-liberal mayor has finally acknowledged after months of denials.

    Police officers have identified 80 separate homeless encampments in the city, 20 of which are so entrenched that they have their own furniture, while its former mayor Rudolph Giuliani has spoken scathingly of how his successor is failing to keep order.

    Robert Kiyosaki, the best-selling author of “Rich Dad, Poor Dad“, recentlytold Newsmax that the “global economy is in a collapse right now”.  And he is right.  Things are getting worse in Asia, in Europe and in South America.

    Things are also getting worse for the U.S. economy.  The “employment recovery” that we have already seen is all the employment recovery that we are going to get.

    From here on out, millions upon millions of American workers are going to be losing their jobs and the suffering in this country is going to be off the charts.

    So don’t fall for the lies that Obama and his minions are telling you.

    All you have to do to see the truth is to open up your eyes and look at what is happening all around us.


    beginning-of-the-end-snyderMichael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years.

    Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream

    If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.

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      1. No way is it 5.1% Its 20% or worse. Lowest persentage of people working to population,closed stores,low imports,businesses that are open are barely surviving…no money.

        • You can talk all you want to about the unemployment rate. But don’t overlook the wages people are(n’t) being paid.

          • Other Employment news…

            698K Native-Born Americans Lost Their Job In August: Why This Suddenly Is The Most Important Jobs Chart

            “This drop was offset by 204,000 foreign-born Americans, who got a job in the month of August.”

            -Zerohedge

            “The Center for Immigration Studies reports 100% of Employment growth in the U.S. since 2000 went to immigrants.

            On a population adjusted basis, the numbers look horrific. Population-wise, native US citizens account for two-thirds of the working-age population growth, yet FEWER work today.

            Here’s the harsh reality: 17 million working-age native US citizens were NOT working in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000.”
            -Global Economic blogspot

            New Record: Foreign-Born Job-Holders Break 25 Million
            “The number of foreign-born individuals holding jobs in the United States hit a record high of 25,019,000 in September, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).”
            -cnsnews dot com

              • I don’t think those jobs are going to illegals. They are going to a lot of tech workers who come in from India on H1-B visas. Many companies in the Silicon Valley, CA and also Disney are getting rid of Americans earning a decent wage and replacing them with Indians who will work for half the salary or less. You can thank Congress for that.

                • Wrong.

                  Blaming Congress for it is docking responsibility. While I am certain that Congress plays a key role in it, it all boils down to people engagement in politics.
                  If no one cares, or only cares when is directly affected, it will be hard or impossible for any change to occur.

                  Now we can all go back to follow the game on TV.

            • KY mom, I’m in BG are you nearby?

              • Chad,

                I am in eastern Kentucky.

                • Eastern KY is being hit hard by the closing coal mines, just like WV. It’s awful, and can be seen all over the state. In WV, walmart is the biggest employer. That’s pathetic, people should be working at jobs that pay enough to get off of welfare!

                  I don’t think it will get any better, Martin Armstrong’s Socrates says we still have a little further to decline.

                • I gave thought about moving over there. Visited Cumberland gap, Pineville, into Harlan County all the way to Cumberland. Car was running bad, turned around, wanted to drive up black Mountain.
                  Brother lives in London area.
                  I think eastern KY is an excellent place to “get away” due to low population and the thousands of hills that seem to go on forever.

            • It’s called demographic warfare.

          • In 1982 I made $22 per hour as an electrician. Had great benefits, Job security and health coverage. Today, Im still an electrician and make $25 per hour. I have to fight for every hour of work I get and have really lousy benefits if any at all and no job security. I know other people are in worse shape but my pint is that wages have been stagnant for 30 years for everyone except gov employees and the rich.

            • Joe

              Yep and don’t forget that the inflation of everything else (food, housing, energy, vehicles, etc.) has probably increased at two to three times the rate that wages have. Most everyone I know has either seen a decrease in their income or it has stayed stagnant. My dad (car business) is probably not making what he was 20 or 30 years ago. People can get on tv and give you all the “facts” and good news they want. But anybody that can fog a mirror is able to look at the world around them, balance their checkbook, and see that this country is gone to pot.

          • Guy up the street just had a new roof put on his house. According to him, the 3 guys on the crew are making $15 an hour, the foreman $18 an hour. The fly-by-night roofing companies that hire illegal aliens are suppressing wages for the other firms, but unless you’re hiring the labor directly, the savings are not getting passed through to the homeowner.

            • A friend of mine and his brother once ran a roofing company but fave it up, mostly due to competition from low wage Mexicans. Americans lose many jobs to immigrants who the govt says doesn’t take our jobs.

              • My neighborhood must have a dozen different landscape maintenance companies coming by every week. From what I’ve seen, they are all composed of Hispanics. One guy came by and asked what my yard guys were charging me (I don’t hire anyone), I told him $150 a month for weekly mow, edge, trim, blow, and three lawn feedings a year (which I know to be about half of what the neighbors are paying to the local big boys). He told me right off he’d do all that for $125 a month. I asked him for his cash price, he said $100.

                That would work out to about $15.00 an hour, less expenses to run the equipment and travel between sites. These guys are working for teenager wages and getting a bonus from the government in the way of assistance and welfare. No way they are supporting a family of 3 or 4 on that kind of money.

                He could of told me $50 a month and I’d still do all my yard work. Two hours a week goes a long way.

                • They do work, we’ll many of them. But like you said, they get paid cash, pay no taxes or just enough to draw max earned income credit, which is at least $6000. Food stamps, free ER visits, etc, not a bad life. Most drive very nice cars to. Some even receive cash from govt.
                  It’s time these countries sending refugees, migrants, whatever take care of there own, rebuild their own countries. We have enough here to worry about.

                  • yes but they also do what Americans won’t and that is having many friends or extended family under one roof

                  • There was an article a few years back how they also claim like 9 dependents and get fat checks – this it was like $20k but that seems too high – from the tax man due to it and claiming such low income. I’m not sure why construction and farm are allowed to pay cash and not withhold payroll taxes while other industries are not.

                    • They’re not allowed to, unless it’s day labor making less than $600 a year.

          • Stop eating so fucking much you disgusting fucking land whales. You fat slobs. You slothful pieces of shit.

            • Acid, if you’e talking about sheeple, OK I can agree with that. I don’t know about anyone else here but I’ve actually lost 40 pounds this year by cutting out certain foods and I feel better for doing so.

              • Great!!!

            • Acid…one of them is gonna kick your ass and the rest will be in line behind them. Your problem is your mouth,you don’t think before you talk.

        • Jim
          Great minds think alike. I didn’t read your post before I posted mine. 20% we think a like!!!
          Have a good Labor Day.
          Sgt.

          • Get a grip Acid….yeah everything is the US fault….too easy to say.

            • As much as I hate that asshole- hes on to something. He didn’t say it was “our fault”. BUT…. that first explosion was NOT chemical. IT WAS Nuclear.

            • Sgt. Dale
              LMAO……keep ur head on a swivel and watch ur 6. I hope ur no where near Ferguson!

          • DUH. Any dumbass here claiming its real has a dick- most likely yours fucktard, up theirs.

        • So what part of You are fucked didn’t y’all get? The REAL “unemployment rate” is like 65%+. I don’t care how much water/food/ammo you store—— you’re all fucked. And to all you Mr. “I have a well & live off the land” dipshits…. Can you REALLY hold off a horde of hungry people? THINKING people… Unlike your stupid ass idea that they’d be “ZOMBIES”. Get a grip, “preppers”! Unless you idiots have an Atlas F, or similar, silo- You. Are. Toast.

          May the Lord have mercy upon your black souls…. or not! LOL!

      2. 5.1% BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!
        It is more like 20% Whites and 35% black.

        The only full time jobs out there is in the Guberment!!!!
        The Feds are taking part time jobs and figuring them in. All the High school kids and College kids are going back to school and they are using things figures. They said they planned on 215,000, and 175,000. Now that is a big difference.

        They have to LIE about it because the nation would go nuts if they knew the truth.

        We here know the truth and we prep. So we are ready are they????
        Sgt.

        • Sgt, the numbers are about right. He is probably including the prostitutes and drug dealers in his numbers.

        • Sarge and Jim, I believe the overall rate is in the range of 25-30%. this economy has been shedding jobs since 2008. 50-75% of the college graduates since 2008 can’t find work in whatever fields they majored in and still have to repay those student loans. How many people who lost jobs back in 2008-2012 found other work? How many of those people ended up on govt. assistance and are still on it? All of these foreigners being allowed in and getting on those programs, Obamacare, and other factors will surely bring this house of cards down. It’s only a matter of time.

          • Forget what this thread is about and listen to ME! Ya’ll who don’t listen to ole pissin is all a gonna die soon! God came to me last night in a dream and he says, “pissin, I’m a gonna smite all them thar that a mocks ya’ll! I even lost 10k in property muhself by not lissenin to ole pissin, and I’m GOD!” So there all ya mockers and non believers, even God suffered by not a lissenin to ME! And one more thang, I’s a gonna be startin’ to say thangs like ” I never said anything fer sure sumpin would happen in September, maybe nuthin t’all, but if don’t matter none one way or t’other, cause I’m ALWAYS right ’bout everthang, an a don’t you fergit it lessin ya’ll wants ta burn in ole pissin’s molten lake o’ far!

            • Careful – God will not be mocked.

          • Braveheart.

            Obama Care was a headache for business so business cut the work hours back. What happened then. They raised the minimum wage.

            When I was young and in scouts or sports. In order to raise extra funds we would have car washes, sell candy and cut grass. Today they stand outside the grocery store and beg.
            Teach your children to pan handle at an early age. That expertise may come in handy later in life.

            • Sling, I know that all too well. I’ve already seen that happen at businesses here in Memphis. From 1985 to 1992 I worked 2 jobs for 2 reasons. One was to make ends meet and the second was to pay off a lawsuit I lost in court. After I finished paying all the legal shit, I was given a promotion and a pay raise so I was able to give up the 2nd job. I’ll tell you that working 2 jobs ain’t no picnic.

            • Sling, I know that all too well. I’ve already seen that happen at businesses here in Memphis. From 1985 to 1992 I worked 2 jobs for 2 reasons. One was to make ends meet and the second was to pay off a lawsuit I lost in court. After I finished paying all the legal shit, I was given a promotion and a pay raise so I was able to give up the 2nd job. I’ll tell you that working 2 jobs ain’t no picnic.

            • Sling, I know that all too well. I’ve already seen that happen at businesses here in Memphis. From 1985 to 1992 I worked 2 jobs for 2 reasons. One was to make ends meet and the second was to pay off a lawsuit I lost in court. After I finished paying all the legal shit, I was given a promotion and a pay raise so I was able to give up the 2nd job. I’ll tell you that working 2 jobs ain’t no picnic.

            • Sling, I know that all too well. I’ve already seen that happen at businesses here in Memphis. From 1985 to 1992 I worked 2 jobs for 2 reasons. One was to make ends meet and the second was to pay off a lawsuit I lost in court. After I finished paying all the legal shit, I was given a promotion and a pay raise so I was able to give up the 2nd job. I’ll tell you that working 2 jobs ain’t no picnic.

            • Sling, I know that all too well. I’ve already seen that happen at businesses here in Memphis. From 1985 to 1992 I worked 2 jobs for 2 reasons. One was to make ends meet and the second was to pay off a lawsuit I lost in court. After I finished paying all the legal shit, I was given a promotion and a pay raise so I was able to give up the 2nd job. I’ll tell you that working 2 jobs ain’t no picnic.

              • Braveheart just went into hyperdrive. Hahaha!

                • Mac.

                  Heads Up.

                  Something up with the server. Page went 404 and took a long time to go through. Braveheart posted 5 times same post.

                  • Mac, I’m sorry about this. I have no idea how my same post ended up on here 5 times.

                    • Tis OK Brave,you had to let out some steam!Relax with a few Goldfish,all will be well!

                    • Working two jobs, posting five times, it’s all good, not a problem.

                      I remember a 6-year period I held two jobs, putting it from 60-75 hours a week. Weekends were just another work day, and no vacations. Glad I don’t have to do that anymore, and hope I never need to do it again.

                    • I only read the first 4…

        • I agree with those estimates.

          In a few months or years, whenever God decides, those numbers will likely double.

          When it gets that bad, the idea that the gov is gonna bail everyone out is preposterous. The gov is in for a gourd thumping even worse than average, everyday Ostrich sheeple.

          The elites, liberals, and satanic/atheists are in for the ride of their lives, because they think they are untouchable, and that the liberals in gov are their proteges, and will look out for their interests. When they see their millions disappear, their gods, they will go apeshit and many will take their own lives. Only the deceived believe they are the new world order leaders.

          Wrong! They are the very ones that are bringing on God’s wrath, from their abominations and mockery. They will be the first to get hit the hardest, where it hurts them the most, in their bank accounts. Even their vaults of gold and silver will not be enough.

          God isn’t angry with His children that try to do what is right and have what He desires from them…two things.
          These two things are very important, Love and Faith for Him, as our Heavenly Father, and for His Son, our Saviour Jesus Christ.

          • Hey brother…in a sense you re right…but there is more to it…

            We as Christians need to be preaching the Gospel of Christ where ever we go…we as Christians are not standing up and speaking out with the love of Christ…the evil are standing up and we are laying down and taking it…

            God is just as angry with His children who do not speak out and witness the love of our beloved Christ Jesus.

            We as Christians need to stand tall and show the love to the heathens…as our Lord and Savior commands us to do…other wise we are no better then they are.

            I seen on the news where 10,000 Christians attended a rally in SC…that is less then 10% of the population of the town where the rally was held…10% brother…if 70% of us call ourselves Christians that is truly pathetic on our part…WE need to be strong and loving with everything we have inside us…

            In no way am I trying to cause infighting among our brethren…but God has convicted me to speak out and speak the truth…

            I love everyone and wish all could be saved, but we both no that is not the case other wise the Lord would have not created Hades/Hell…

            What needs to happen is all professing Christians need to get down on their knees and cry out to our Lord God Almighty and if we cry out loud enough He may be a little more long suffering with us.

            I love you Brother Passin, but we have a lot of praying to do and a lot of preaching to do to turn this thing around…

            I challenge each of my brothers and sisters in Christ to preach and speak of the Love of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.

            REPENTANCE leads to REVIVAL and REVIVAL leads us back to the Lord…if we don’t have this then we are in for one bumpy ride as the Lord will bring His wrath down upon us with a vengeance the world has never seen the likes of.

            Peace to all my brethren.

            A loyal humble servant in Christ Jesus
            Russ

            • Praise be! I was wondering what was going on at this site. I don’t come hear to read stories about what’s going on the world and how it affects me, or a good hunting or survival tip, Hell no! If I wanted to read that stuff I’d go over to Michael Snyder’s website or even Daisy Luther. No siirree, I come here for one thing and one thing only, that good old time religion, yesssiirrreeee! Mac, don’t you DARE publish any further articles that aren’t about God or we’ll send him down here to ” gitcha!’

              • If you and a few others would spend half as much time trying to learn something about prepping, rather than stalking us Christians and our posts, and spending countless hours in bashing, badgering, and mocking, you might not need to worry so much.

                But, then again, you just can’t fix stupid.

                If we bother you so much, why do you bother. You think we are just gonna go away like the world wants us to? No way!

                People like Russ and myself are committed to the very end. We may have different styles, and avenues of getting there, but don’t ever confuse yourself that we are gonna roll over for little piss ants, that are marching down a highway to hell.

                Yea, I do shake things up and don’t apologize for that. I have added just about as much other useful information here over the past six or so years, as anyone.

                What have you and your atheist buddies contributed?

                Paranoid has been around a long time here, we had conversations about this early on. I respect his freewill decision to avoid reading anything biblical here. I don’t force my Christianity on him or anyone, and as i have said to Paranoid before, when you see my handle appear, just scroll on past, because I may have something biblical posted. Simple as that.

                How hard is that to do, and to just keep your mockery to your self?

                A good friend and neighbor just turned 65 this summer and passed away. We were never close, but knew each other from riding the school bus and going to the same church, and talking deer hunting,etc.

                I was saved and baptized at the age of nine. He was always shy, and never would commit to salvation in the church, but that didn’t stop the preachers and deacons over the years. For over fifteen years they hounded him at alter calls and even went so far as to physically pull him from the pew a few times, all with most of the congregation watching.

                They finally caused him to walk out the doors during service one night. I felt sad for him. he still came to church until his elderly mother died, because she didn’t drive, but he never came back inside. Sit in his truck and wait.

                What a crying shame. I eventually left that church because of the Holier than thou, do gooders, and religion pushers. That is not my style.

                Now, I have to wonder; what path might that young man have taken if not pushed out the door by those deacons and over zealous preachers. In their mind they were doing the right thing, but was it right?

                My friend and i had a conversation and shook hands back last fall. I didn’t know it would be out last meeting. He was still a heavy drinker and cigarette smoker and would not talk about anything biblical. Did he accept Christ before he took his last breath? I don’t know, but I do know we parted as friends because i never pushed him like the church did.

                See, many people, when faced with death, finally ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus, just hours or minutes before they die. Some never admit it openly. One of my Grandfather’s lived 83 years and never accepted salvation until his last hour on his death bed, by the helping hand and urging of his oldest daughter, he did repent and accept.

                Don’t ever confuse me with a so-called bible thumper, or a preacher. Don’t ever accuse me of pushing anything upon anyone, as long as there is an option to ignore me and my words.
                Everyone has to sail their own ship.

                • Hey there Wind, you don’t seem to understand, God told me that you and Russ are going to spend eternity together with me! Now you both have something to look forward to!

                  • I wish that were true.

                    BTW, I have always had something to look forward to since i accepted Jesus, when I was nine.

                • Amen Brother!!! you got that right, I’m true to God and Jesus until they come to take me home.

                  Love your words my Brother!

                  you are correct, no one should be forced to be saved and not all will be saved…but like I said not all will be saved otherwise God would not have created hades. All we need to do is look at the parable of the seed sower and see some will perish and some will be saved. Some have hard pan and some have fertile soil.

                  A loyal humble servant in Christ Jesus.
                  Russ

            • I’m guilty on ALL accounts.

            • I agree PWIW & Russ and enjoy reading your posts and contributions… but the problem is, too many people aren’t even aware they’ve turned their backs on God.

              • Try to eep your GOD issues to a minimum. I can read a Bible, have several, Didn’t come here for that. Have 30-40 Churches in town. None of them tell me how to can peaches. You follow God your way, I’ll do mine.

                • Paranoid.

                  Two fellow workers were discussing religion. One was a born again Christian and was a preacher. Well the preacher tells the other guy that Him and his daughter was going to hell. The father picks up a Brass hammer and the good Lord made him slip for I know for SURE the preacher was going to get Crowned.

                  Sorry. No preaching in my compound.

                • I wish I could agree with ya brother. But in all reality we are pretty much doomed with that type of thought process…that’s what has got into trouble in the first place…turn the other cheek and let the sodomites and baby killers run over us…Just remember God sees all and knows all and you will have to answer to Jesus and God when judgement time comes…you should be speaking about Jesus where ever you go in a loving manner..and if you aren’t, then I would say you are playing Christian just like most our doing today…and that means you are really not a Christian…you are just playing Christian and using God as a genie in a bottle..and God will judge you accordingly…remember every word you speak is recorded in Heaven…

                  Matthew 12: 35-37
                  A Tree Recognized by its Fruit
                  …35″The good man brings out of his good treasure what is good; and the evil man brings out of his evil treasure what is evil. 36″But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. 37″For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

                  So if you are not producing good fruits for Christ, you are producing bad fruits for the likes of Satan…I don’t want to see you suffer in the Lake of fire, I want to see you rejoicing with me and the other saints and worshiping the Lord God Almighty and singing His praised.

                  Glory to the Lord and Blessed be His name…as I will not stop preaching and witnessing for our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus…Amen and Amen, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah to the Lord of the most High, the one and only True Living God.

                  may the Holy Spirit convict your heart and bring you back home. So dig into the word and pray to the Holy Spirit to give you a deeper understanding of the Lords Word.

                  A loyal humble servant in Christ Jesus.
                  Russ

                  • Russ

                    Playing Christian?

                    Your not self righteous, holier than thow are you?
                    Don’t mind a little now and then but the over load is something else like your trying to crawl up Jesus’s ass.
                    Give it a break.

                    • Ahh, Sounds like I hit a nerve, so if the shoe fits, by all means wear it straight to HELL…your choice my friend…

                      As for being holier then thou. Not me…The Good Lord took all I had back in 08…He showed me I don’t need these worldly things, as I now have God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit in my Heart and the good Lord gives me all I need..wish I could say the same for you but you are the one who seem self righteous.

                      As for me I prefer to put my treasures in Heaven where no thief can steal it…so go on playing Christian and see where that gets ya..a one way ticket to the Lake of Fire.

                      I live my life for Christ now and no one like you will deter me from preaching the Gospel or witnessing in His name…

                      when you are through playing Christian you should get off the couch and try it some time…that is if you are truly saved…

                      As passin said…if ya don’t like what I have to say..then pass on by…your choice…but you will never shut me up in regards to Christ Jesus.

                      As Jesus says don’t cast your pearls before swine.

                      Matthew 7:5-6
                      5″You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. 6″Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

                      I will now dust off my dust off my feet, as I’m through with you.

                      Matthew 10:13-15
                      13″If the house is worthy, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace. 14″Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. 15″Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city.

                      Glory to the Lord and Blessed be His name…as I will not stop preaching and witnessing for our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus…Amen and Amen, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah to the Lord of the most High, the one and only True Living God.

                      A loyal humble servant in Christ Jesus.
                      Russ

              • Yes sir Brother…most need a good ole 45 degrees of separation from the smart phones attached to their hands…goes back to the day of Ezekiel when most where worshiping false gods and not praying to the True Living God…all I can say is I pity those who fall into this category as the end times won’t be pretty…

                Love you brother and may the Good Lord Bless your days…

                A loyal humble servant in Christ Jesus
                Russ

      3. Much like always, the numbers are fictional. They don’t add in those who are no longer receiving unemployment. Or, on the taxpayer dime. Much like, the cost of living has not increased. Quite easy to say that when they took out basic essentials several years ago to make the books look better so to speak. Groceries have gone up as we all know. Ask them? Nah. Hasn’t happened. Electric bills etc. You get the picture. Hold on tight folks. The waters are getting rougher by the day. But, we already know what we will hear. Wow! I didn’t see this one coming. But we got your backs. LMAO! BTW, Happy Labor Day to all.

      4. I see a lot of jobs in IT, the problem is that the influx of low wage h1 workers have drive the wages down. Contract jobs that used to pay 90-100 an hour are now in the 30-45 an hour range. Truly sickening

      5. No, No…It’s all good. Commodities are down…The dollar is up. What’s there to beef about…Things are cheaper, and my bucks are worth more!!!

        I am in the process of ordering more stuff for the pantry…Food items mostly…Many of which have tripled in price since 2012.
        Didn’t do the fat juicy steaks this weekend, cause I was in shock over the sale price??

        This has to be a good economic indicator… People willing to spend more bucks for stuff, right??

        IT’S ALL GOOD!!!

        • Our local grocer put whole NY Strip Black Angus loins on sale for the first time in over a year this weekend. $5.97 a lb. a $214.00 loin for $90 and change. Prior to the year of no sales, they had three or four sales on them every year, and ribeyes too. We decided it might be our last chance at that price.

          We haven’t eaten a steak from a restaurant in over six years. We decided to stay home and put our expensive dining funds into a jar. When we had about a hundred bucks or more, we began looking for whole loins on sale. We like a two inch thick steak over charcoals, mesquite preferably, and cooked medium rare. Grilled corn on the cob in the shuck, and baked tater with a small salad. Than you Lord!

          Can’t get that out at a restaurant.

          • Meats crazy, local grown hamburger 7.24/#

            • Guess I’m getting old, can’t remember who the commenter was that was from Oregon that was always gave us updates on what he was doing. Whether digging clams or fishing or giving us recipes. Sure do miss his comments. Trekker Out. Jog My Memory!

              • I’m a blank, too, but he is missed! Lots of good jokes.

              • Was it Rick?

                • PO’d Patriot, that sounds right. Rick in Oregon. He was a good poster.

                • PO’d Patriot, that sounds right. Rick in Oregon. He was a good poster.

                  • Braveheart has the hiccups. Hahaha!

                    • mac, once again I apologize. don’t know what’s happening here.

                  • That’s him, Rick in Oregon.

                  • Thanks guy’s! Rick in Oregon, give us an update if your still on line! Trekker Out

                  • Its them Goldfish brother. What are you washin’ them down with?

            • Local grown here is ~$3.30 per pound. We butchered recently @ $0.75 per pound. Normally it is $0.90. You live in the wrong county. It is getting hard to find Weaners for sale, so prices will change.

              • You guys have more than one slaughter house there too, plus a lot more small ranchers with cows,
                Wrong county?
                At this point I am where I am. Aint going to change.

                • I understand and commiserate.

          • Local ribeye steaks, very nice, $18.99/pound. Last year, same store, same local brand, same day before Labor Day, they were $13.99/pound.

            • A nice ribeye on the grill, yum!

          • You cant get USDA prime at the market. Only choice = garbage, and select = dog food.

        • NOBODY
          I just order some stuff from Puritan Pride for fight of the cold and flu.
          Herbal Support Kit
          Black Elderberry liquid Extract
          Elderberry Sambucus Tablets
          Zinc Gluconate 50 mg.
          Vit. B Complex with 500 MG Vit. C.
          Picked up a bunch of Vit. D and E to go along with it.

          Med tip from old Sgt.
          The Black Elderberry I make cough medicine out of it.
          Take a bottle like a Nyquil bottle.
          Three table spoons of Black Elderberry liquid extract.
          Two table spoons of Honey (to your Taste)
          Two table spoons of Limon juice.
          Two tea Spoons of Cinnamon.
          Two shoots of Southern Comfort. Or what kind of whiskey you want.
          Shake well and take one shot before bed. Keep coughing take an another.
          Sgt.

          • Sgt D – You are right on with your cold & flu preps. Wife is a pharmacist and we do nearly the same preps..different booze. Often mix spoon or two in with dark red wine.

            Zinc Gluconate commercial preps (Cold-Eze) are superb if used within first onset. Expensive med, but effective if you are traveling when the crud attacks. Shortens symptoms once contracted if a nasty bug has got you down.

            At 67 now and I have not had a flu/nasty cold since 2000. Also the year I stopped those mandatory flu shots.Thus,.. keeping my pilot’s log active all 365.

            Salute to you and your service. USAF-Viet-Nam 68-69, call sign “Juliet6”.

            • Juliet6
              Thank you SIR for your service.
              If your wife has any more good remedies lease let us know.
              Sgt.

            • Juliet6, you did exactly right giving up those flu shots. It took me a bit longer [2005]. the last flu shot I had I got sick only 2 hours after taking it. I stopped taking flu shots right then and haven’t had flu since except for a couple of times and I had something else for it which worked much better. I’ve always got something better than a damned vaccine to take care of whatever ails me.

              • Haven’t had a shot since 05 and it was a tetanus. Zero flu shots, don’t get sick, I eat home grown peppers. Dried and ground, some roasted but a small bit in my morning coffee wakes me wake up real quick. No fevers, flu, colds…or ulcers.

          • this is the first damn thing i have read on this website that makes good sense, ty

          • that one just like my dad’s hot toddy, except we use an herbal tea. 🙂

            • My Grandmother used the same, Only diff was she left out everything except the Southern Comfort.

      6. 5.1% Percent? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!
        I read that the actual rate is almost 22.9%
        Lies, More Lies and Even More Lies, that’s all we get from this Administration.

      7. OT but important. At the daily sheeple, check out, BUSTED? Videos of Virginia Reporter Shooting Hoax Were Separate Takes. Remember the article where I took a helluva beating from the trolls for calling the shooting fake? These videos prove what I said. Very interesting videos. I saw this article yesterday at activistpost.com.

        • I watched those videos repeatedly yesterday on sgt report. there was NO casing ejected on that first shot. the second shot one could question because the recoil takes the gun almost out of frame, and the rest of the shots are out of frame. BUT I AGREE 100% I was quite shocked. My husband agreed as well.

        • Shore they is cuz, all o’ them videos’ is a now fakes fer sure! Them two folks NEVER died at all! They just needed ’nuff time to doctor em’ up and ” bingo”, all the ” fake” video’s ya’ll needs to ” prove” you was a right all along! And DURN yer hide anywho brave, ya’ll dun got me PREGGARS agin last time you wuz here at the BOL. Dammit, I’m gittin too old fer this agin, yer other son is almose 21 year on now and cain’t talk a lick, all he ever duz is set on the front porch and play that dang banjo. He ain;t never had a lessun but he can play better n’ anybody in Appalachia! So ya’ll needs to a bringin 3 times as many Vienna sarsages and goldfish crackers cause I’m a eatin fer three agin thanks to ya’ll!

          • To everyone, it’s strange but the trolls don’t piss me off anymore. I’m actually laughing at them now. This female cuz is the best one I’ve seen yet.

            • Hahaha, that’s not a kissing cuz is it???

          • Hey!!! Female Cuz don’t u be mad at Bravefart!! He an alpha male and u should be proud to carry his seed again!!! You raise that childrun to be good American just like his pa!!! He will send u vienne sausage in the mail ever day!
            U sound pretty and I am alpha man to and also am Marsha Art ninja master. TROOTH!!! Maybe when calpase happens I load up milk crate on my moped and bug out to you and little banjo brave jr.and teach him shoot MOSS BERG 590 at dred loks!!!!
            KEEEYAAA!!!!!
            AKA
            HCKS/50cc’s of fury

            • Well thar hcks, I be’s a thankin ya kindly fer yer alpha male offer! I’s always bin parshull sum to that thar Mossberg 590 sure’nuff and I’ luvs them Vienna sarsages! But I bin a promused to that ole’ Dave Hodges and that thar scientis frend of yourn too cause they’s a gonna be savin me and lil brave a seat on Niburu when it gits to be plantin seasun next april so’s I won’t get kilt when it passes nearby sum. But thank ya kindly anywho!

      8. In ye olde days, the concept of being ‘unemployed’ was never something that anyone even imagined. You might be ‘between jobs’ but you were not very fussy about taking any kind of job. Even if you were ‘between jobs’ you never were idle. Such a condition gave you more time for hunting and fishing, gardening, canning, doing odd jobs for neighbors, fixing up the house, etc.

      9. The rates are at least 20%. But the wages are nothing more than a lie. If you rase the minimum wage,the cost of everything goes up and the people its supposed to help get hurt the worst. Not only do they also have to pay more for food and other things but their hours or even their jobs get cut in order for the business to try and make a profit. Then tax payers (that are working) get hit again with higher taxes to pay for the unemployed or under employed. This administration hates America and wants it to become a socialist government. Then we will all make the same wage,drive the same car and live in the same houses. Its all a way to make a NWO. Never surrender your guns people if you do this its over. You see as unemployment goes up so does crime. Ask yourself this question do you want to live how China’s people are living. 33 people in a room on bunks that work in a factory in the same building? This is the road we are racing down right now!!! Just a thought.

      10. Do you really care?

        So is shadowstats has it over 20% and there is no concern, then things are fine. did anyone care if the black unemployment rate is 35%. Hell No! How about teenage unemployment. That is why we have SNAP and all those other social nets. BUT!!!!!!! “The Refugees Are Coming”. More strain on the system. Then the blacks blame the Latino’s and the Latino’s blame the refugee’s.

        Then all blame Whitey for not paying taxes to support them all.

        Better take a course in counter insurgency. You all are gonna need it. Hahahahaha!

        Oh yeah, Are you Ready.

        • Welcome to the NWO!!!

      11. Another excellent cough/sniffle medicine –

        – stay out of all malls, Walmart, Costco, sams, any densely populated indoor areas during busy hours.

        I haven’t had a sniffle in 3 years following this simple rule….

      12. WDC should be hung.

      13. Save your time writing and or reading these articles, why; Joe blow out here could care less who’s unemployed even himself as long as he can watch SPORTS, DWTS, CELL-PHONE WORKS, FACE BOOK IS UP AND RUNNING, and the UNEMPLOYMENT CHECKS with the EBT CARD is still in hand, he could give a rats a$$.

      14. Now don’t forget about sec.8 housing and all those young people who go home to live with their parents. Has the homeless numbers increased. The Food banks are still giving out food. Poop in the streets and an increase in crime are just signs of the times. Gasoline and oil low but food prices going up. If they are lying about unemployment, how about the housing and mortgage industry. That then connects to the Banking industry and the Fed and IMF and Greece and Spain and BRICS and the world has gone Mad with war, I tell you.

        Now stay tuned for an important announcement. ;0)

        • I wish more people would get it!!!

      15. off topic gang, but i need some advice. I posted this at the tail end of the previous thread. I’ve not had anytime to shoot this summer since moving south, and had only shot my AR once since it was purchased 2 years ago (i was living in communist state of CT). Any tips for me adjusting to the flip sights? I’ve got good groupings when I rapid fire, but I am consistently shooting low whether i’m shooting slow and controlled or rapidly. When i’m using the flip sights i’m centering the top of the front sight. I tried aiming with just a hair of daylight above the top of the front sight and i was shooting high. This is very frustrating because with standard iron sights on my .22 or the scope on my .308 i’m a dead on shot. and better stay out of the way of me and my kimber 1911. I’ll put 8 rounds between your eyes in a big damn hurry. Thanks ya’ll

        • Aim higher,just kidding. Use a led sled so the rifle can’t move. Fire one shot and zero to that shot. After that it should be on. Dead on.

          • Old school and saves ammo.

          • Thaanks Thor

        • Are you speaking of an AR-15 rear flip sight with a large and small aperture built into the handle that can be flipped to select one or the other?

          The intent is the rifle be sighted for 100 yards through the large aperture. Then when you flip to the small aperture it should be adjusted to be dead on for 300 yards.

          There’s a YouTube video on AR complete disassembly and reassembly that spoke about it.

          • Is that what he was asking??? One is for lower light so you might hit something not as accurate but hit something.

            • Ghost ring,

            • Large rear goes with outer ring @ front sight, small rear goes with front post top o post centered in small rear ring

          • Thanks PTPO. That’s exactly what I was talking about. Just not familiar with these sights. Headed out to the back 40 in a few to go at it again.

        • NO “P”
          Adjust your front sight down this will raise your muzzle.

          More than likely your back sight is just windage. and your front sight is for elevation.

          Sgt.

          • Thanks .I just found the smallpin in the post adjustment on the front sight . I hope y’all don’t think I’m dumb, this is just new to me and I’ll be damned if I get outgunned by a bunch of thugs .

            • Pity,tool for front adjustment but a 5.56 tip will work to push pin down,believe designed that way,good luck with the barely broken in unit!

            • NO”P”
              No Sir you are not dumb. Just un-experienced with the AR. Ask question all the time if you don’t know. THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE!
              Sgt.

            • Went to a gun shop/ range that rented, they must have had two dozen AR’s of all different styles makes and models, with at least a dozen different types of sights. Then I was looking at YouTubes and aftermarket sights and there were more. The choices even make people who have been shooting for decades feel a little ignorant.

              So with all that in mind notice I answered in the form of a question! LOL.

              I love peep sights, as do most people with lousy eyes. Like a camera obscura the small opening acts like a lens that is in focus over a wide range, and can bring fuzzy things into clarity.

              Choosing a sight that works for you and your eyes is primary, next is the style of shooting, and available range distances. Last of all, have fun!

        • I responded around 3 pm to your site question
          I see SGT dale has you covered here on this thread
          Good luck

        • Every gun is different. some you put the target on top of the front sight and others you cover the target with the sight. bullet grain can make a difference too. Trigger finger can get you in trouble too and mount of poundage on the trigger. Another person will shoot the same gun and do differently. Pain huh?

      16. Added jobs barely cover incoming immigrants and refugees.
        We need to import workers when 94 million citizens need a job?

        • Yes, and then raise the minimum wage so the legitimate companies can’t compete with the ones that hire the illegals costing more jobs. Its a plan to collapse the economy.

          • Yep, just like the FSMA doesnt apply to mexican produce

          • and it’ll work!

            • Already is!!!

          • Chad and Thor, a certain percentage of those 94 million are on the programs for life so count them out on working. There are unemployed who want to work but I don’t see any hope for them.

      17. Young people aren’t supposed to move out they are supposed to stay living with parents. If they were kicked out the homeless rate would be way higher. But honestly I’ve seen help wanted signs all over. A lot of places I deliver to are hiring but they told me people don’t want to work and they are having a hard time getting any help. See my state has pretty much legalized marijuana you can possess up to an oz and if caught it’s only a citation of $100 or something like that. Oh and it’s a major welfare bastion too. So do you think anyone really wants to work in an environment like this. I’m one of the few working schleps nowadays that has to fight tooth and nail to get time off because my employer suffers from labor shortage on a constant basis. Because they give random drug tests they cannot get help. It is what it is and people want the free shit programs and they are threatened that the programs will be cut if republicans get elected so you know where that has landed us. So this bullshit that there are no jobs doesn’t fly with me I’ve seen the signs talked with the employers and know the culture or freeloading we have going on. People won’t take jobs because their subsidies will be cut for doing so. They are unemployed by choice. The state made it that way. People do not want to work. You could get a job tomorrow if you wanted it’s not that hard to get employed but why you will not be able to get free shit because you wouldn’t fall under the poverty line anymore. People have decided free shit is better than their self reliance. When the rug gets pulled out from under them through program cuts they will blame everybody else and be pissed they were let down. They will not agnowledge that they let themselves down. I don’t feel bad for them just as they don’t feel bad for me spending 55 hrs at work while they are at the beach laying in the sun enjoying the good life. It’s choices people you can take the easy road and let the gov take care of you and spend your life chasing programs. Or you can spend long hours at work and save some $ and not have to worry about relying on someone else to come through for you and yours.

      18. I gross $1200 a week and come home with $800 so $400 in deductions weekly I’d say I pay my fair share. I don’t owe the useless eaters shit bums get a job. Maybe I could be able to keep more of my $ if the useless eaters weren’t keeping me down. I hate the useless eaters freeloading off me. I make fun of the welfares all the time just like I did as a kid calling other kids part of the free lunch bunch. Don’t like homos and nigs. It’s just the way I will be till I die and I teach my kids that these people keep them down too. This is my struggle yes I’m white and male too. If you don’t like it kiss my ass I will sow hate if that’s what it takes to right these injustices. I’m under attack what would you do.

      19. When the average refugee has a better life than a 30 hr working stiff: we have a problem!

        • Agreed.

      20. These A$$ WIPES in charge of things see their approval ratings at all time lows with EVERYTHING being LIED ABOUT. Now can you fathom what they would be (ratings) with the truth about everything. Oh I’m sorry brain fart on my part old Joe out here could care less about the truth of things, it’s just the way he was taught. He can’t help it; stupid is as stupid does.
        Boss Hog was a very smart man compared to our leaders today.

      21. Truth; you can’t handle the TRUTH!!!!!!

      22. off topic, but where’s Jeremiah Johnson and anyone else with anything on JH 15?
        Where did all those observer’s go??
        The quieter it is, the more suspicious I get.

        • Haven’t heard much tried to access site but could not get in.

        • Ketchup, I also enjoyed Johnson’s articles. I also agree it’s too quiet.

        • In his bunker probably. Or getting ready for the redoubt winter.

      23. Humans are surplus to requirements… Affirmative.

      24. NAFTA

      25. The FDA just approved the gmo potato. Ca ching, people love their taters, tater chips, tater tots, tater salad, mashed taters, baked taters, scalloped taters, every kind of tater fixin. Potatos are seriously high priced now. Even the normal cheap eats like beans, rice and pasta have shot up in price. Snacks, forget it, a 4 ounce bag of popped popcorn is 3 dollars, most likely gmo corn. These corps aim to starve us to death and poison us and take our last nickel. I know, you people are all prepped up. Great!, you’ll last a little longer than the average schmuck in Uhmerca. What good is a job if the pay does not cover the cost of living expenses? Homeless and expected to hold down a job. Where is Ron Ahrens to deliver the truth about this fascist shithole that’s piling up?

        • Yeah, it’s just terrible, isn’t it? A GMO potato that resists Potato Blight (remember the Irish Famine?) and keeps in winter storage better and longer.

          In case you didn’t know, the potato is a staple food in much of the world and Blight and storage failure kills thousands of people each year. A regional blight like the famous Irish blight would kill hundreds of thousands of people.

          But, you can keep on harping about tater tots and corporations, no one really cares about those people, do they, as long as they starve to death organically.

      26. Want to know the truth,I can’t handle the truth,have worked now about 41 days straight with no end in sight!I am grateful though for the work,way ahead on necc. bills and getting some other items.That said,am considering a new bow,Martin compound,any users of em out there and what are your thoughts.To those who had the weekend off,hope you enjoyed it and at some point Warchild will get some,well,Warchild time!

      27. America had better face the fact, that there are people like me that are STEM educated to make machines that replace people. I’m retired, so I don’t worry. I’d rather deal with a machine than a racist cook spitting in my food, a hung over factory worker assembling a wing for an aircraft, or a picker taking a dump in a field of our veggies.
        The problem no one is addressing is what to do with all the ignorant out of “work” Democrat voting masses? That number is going to grow, exponentially. Most people on this site are of the get the “hell out of there” persuasion. I certainly am and have done so.
        But SHTF plan should plan for the next war not the last one.
        Suggestions?

        • Ass what wellfare is fo cuz

        • This is true: conventional economics believes more people equals more wealth. But, this is patently untrue because if it was true, then every over-populated, third world country would be the richest place on earth. More people does not equate to more hands on deck and more wealth creation; often, it is the very opposite: more mouths to feed, more ‘eaters and takers’, fewer wealth creators.

          Right now, the West is pursuing the antiquated economic notion of ballooning the population with the lowest common denominator – low or no skill people from the third world (look at the European refugee crisis) – and hoping this will boost economic growth. It will not. For the simple reason current economics will not allow to happen. Right now, most businesses and start-ups carry enormous amounts of debt. Even high tech behemouths we always here about can be years or even decades away from turning a real profit. When you have a lot of debt to service, you try and keep your fixed labour costs down to a minimum. If what you do is very clever and requires very smart people who cost a lot, then you aggressively save money by automating as much as you can. If what you do has low profit margins but demands very high standards (food, etc.) and you do not want to get sued all the time, then you use automation and robotics to standardize the customer experience. And this technology is advancing at a furious pace.

          To recap, just as the West is flooding itself with hard to integrate (crazy Muslims), low skill, low wage people, who need welfare and food stamps to make ends meet, it is facing an onslaught of new technology which takes most of those people out of the equation. It is truly dumb beyond belief.

      28. Hey, checkout Lisa Haven’s video about the UN agenda 21 coming in to Newyork on Sep. 25-27. Putin,the President of China, and Odumbo will be there. Hate to say it but where is a good terrorist when you need them. Lmao. Just a thought.

      29. Having worked in the employment arena for decades I can safely say the unemployment rate is close to 30% and that’s not factoring in what we call the under-employed; workers with great skills and yrs of experience who are working in entry-level, low-level jobs where most or none of their skills and experience are being utilized.

        I am also factoring in those who gave up looking for a job and started their own business that isn’t generating much of a profit, if any. They are, technically unemployed, so I factored them into the 30% equation — as well as those who needed to work a few more years and couldn’t afford to take an early retirement but had no other choice.

        They aren’t accounted for, but I included them in ‘the 30% unemployed’ because they are technically unemployed if they want and need to continue working but can’t find suitable employment and have exhausted their unemployment benefits.

        The govt determines unemployment rates the lazy, ignorant, moronic, imbecilic way that does not reflect the truth and reality. Most people exhausted their unemployment benefits long ago and therefore are no longer counted in the ‘unemployed’ statistics, yet they are actually unemployed.

        Imagine, the govt lying to us about unemployment rates (sarcasm), they lie about most everything else why would they be truthful with the unemployment rates.

      30. Deflation happening daily. Deflation is way worse then inflation. Wages going to the cheapest taker, just proof of deflation, led to the Great Depression. Wait until they reduce benefits due to deflation, scary situation.

        Need to raise interest rates to keep the pensions making money now that market is dead.

        Winters coming!

      31. None of it matters! Within this month you will begin to know why. The earth is about to shake! And it will move to the other side, you will then see what is in the sky in space, you cannot see it now. But you will see it then. It is like a big window that is about to open up. You will see planets and the eternity of space, even in the daytime. You will see the skies open up! You will know that it will all be over with then. Your food and your guns will mean nothing when you die from the radiation blasting down to the earth. If you don’t go north. YOU ARE ALL DEAD! Go north as far north as you can! The earth will tilt with the NORTH POLE facing away from the suns radiation! The earth itself will be a shield to you if you are behind it. The rest of the earth the southern hemisphere will burn. All the oceans will come out and they will flood all the land areas. Whatever land that does escape will suffer great earth quakes. Nothing will be left standing. Russia along with a few other nations that are further north will be left standing. Unfortunately all of America will be hit with the radiation except for Alaska further north. The bunkers we in government have are in the process of closing doors, very few people will be called at last minute to come inside. When you see Obama go on some vacation or whatever lie they come up with, just know that it is here! He is the last American President, you will not have another. America is dead!

        • USA SECURITYGUARD – I don’t know where you’re getting your information from… but is Northern Idaho far North enough?

          • CommonCents, if you believe what this whackjob says you’re in major league trouble. Use your God given powers of thought and weed out the real lunatics or you’ll be caught up in a never ending spiral of doom porn.

            • God Help – Who said I actually believed him. I am planning to move up North anyway, not because of anything he’s posted here but because I am in a densely populated area, the worst possible place one can be in a SHTF scenario. I want to leave anyway. Too crowded, crazy and expensive.

              I read his post twice and the 2nd time I figured he sells Alaskan real estate, lots & land — I think he’s a Realtor from Alaska… or maybe Victoria or BC, Canada. Read between the lines, you’ll see what I mean.

              • CommonCents,

                I see where your coming from. You’re going to be alright, you seem like a sharp cookie, good luck to you in the days ahead.

      32. Commoncents

        I do not think the American people are going to out of this mess unscathed. More unemployed. More benefits to illegals. Homeless and crime. Government will increase the amount of payments to cover the cost of food and shelter as the workforce diminishes Unsustainable.

        Figure out how long it is before the lies catch up with reality and that is the time we have left before the Good Shit Starts.

        • slingshot – Very true. I agree.

      33. The employment stats have been games the same way for decades by multiple presidents. Why does anyone here care about gub stats and lies? Nothing new here and shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who has half a brain and smart enough to ignore it.

      34. Probably the worst trend for Western countries has been the flood of workers from developing countries. This is for a number of reasons: the first is these workers have no concept of why Western states even have welfare or social programmes. To somebody from the third world, these programmes are just cash cows to be milked and ripped off. Take people from India for example. Indians come from a country that is highly stratified by the caste system, thoroughly corrupt from top to bottom, brutal and unjust (they rape young women as a legal punishment) and are completely indifferent to extreme poverty and misery. Indians are now rapidly comprising the majority in many professional occupations, so it is no wonder they could not give a sh#t about rising extreme poverty in the West. To them it is normal, even just.

        Unlike in past waves of migration from Europe, today’s third world migrants end up on the welfare system in more cases than not. Rather than getting down to work and growing the country’s wealth, they are net takers for many years. Low standards: when you come from the developing world your frame of reference for everything is different. You see the plentiful knee-grows in the US in extreme poverty and can only conclude they are lazy and stupid. You cannot come to any other conclusion when you see such obvious wealth all around them. Short-termism is also rife. The notion there is not enough diversity everywhere has led to rapid promotion of douche bags just because they are not white. Often these individuals lack the ethics and integrity to hold the positions of high office they have hopped in to. That’s especially bad to do when you have a crisis of the magnitude of today. And finally, notions of political correctness etc. do not exist in developing countries. You are in China and you do not like black people? You say it and you discriminate. You do not like people of the blah, blah tribe, you get on the radio and tell your tribe to kill them. Things are just a little more stark in these places.

        • FT.

          Most people are just educated animals. Nothing more.

          • yup , and TPAB need to wake up to what happens when you poke the bear too dam much

            oh BTW i resemble that remark , when I get pushed too far im an animal
            animals bite

      35. If you live in Europe then things are about to get much worsse because 7,000 people a day are marching across europe to come and take your jobs.

        Our leaders know we don’t have jobs as it is but those that still have jobs want to much in wages and this eats into corporate profits.

        We are talking about millions of immigrants in Europe and not 20 to 50k like our media makes out as they point the finger at what they call the far right and try to make out that the rest of the population wants them all let in.

        More immigrants = more false flags = less freedom of speech = lower wages

        Labour love immigrants because they all vote Labour after being allowed to jump housing list and being given non-jobs in the NHS or local councils.

        Conservative loves immigrants due to pushing wages down, corporate profits up and the only people who has trouble is the sheep in the field as more are stuffed in when grass is hard to come by as it is.

        The USA suporting ISIL and bombing Syria is designed to create a bull run just like in the wild west

        • Got it in one! Any good shepherd knows you first need to create the channels to herd the sheep into. The borders were left open, the message was sent around the world you will get welfare straight away, credit and mortgages are easy, come on in! And then, just to make it a no-brainer, they bombed the shit out of these countries, destabilized them, ruined their governments. Only an idiot would stay there.

          The immigrants do not care what impact they will have on the host countries: they are driven by short-term needs. Unemployment in Southern Europe for youth is reaching 50%. Think about that: a whole generation thrown under the bus. Rather than helping those youth, the money is now being diverted to help the migrants. You have to laugh at the diabolical scheming this must take. If these countries cared about their own people, then they would at least conscript their youth to get them working, either as part of the refugee system, the military, the police or in upgrading businesses.

      36. Nothing happened in Charleston S.C. yesterday. All clear.

      37. The number one growth industry in the Phoenix area is Title Loans. I’m seeing these crop up everywhere now. Along with “buy gold” places, and pawn shops. This is NOT the sign of a recovering economy. This is a sign that more and more people need fast cash to make ends meet. (at 180% interest rate)…..this is a slow collapse.!!!!

      38. Yes J, I agree, it is a slow collapse… but then suddenly one day BAM!!!! all hell breaks loose. A slow collapse doesn’t continue forever. It eventually collapses.

        People who go bankrupt don’t go bankrupt overnight. They go broke very slowly, and then suddenly one day (and that day does arrive) they are totally broke.

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