I Don’t Always Believe CIA Narratives. But When I Do, I Believe Them About China

by | Jul 24, 2020 | Headline News | 7 comments

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    This article was originally published by Caitlin Johnstone at The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity. 

    My social media notifications have been lighting up the last few days with virulent Chinagaters sharing a video that purports to show Uighur Muslims being loaded onto a train to be taken to concentration camps.

    It’s actually an old video that had already surfaced last year, but it is magically making the rounds again as a new and shocking revelation in 2020 now that western China hysteria has been officially kicked into high gear, at exactly the same time the US enacts one of the most dangerous and incendiary escalations of recent years in the South China Sea.

    Everyone tagging me in this video presents it as a self-evident “gotcha” moment, in exactly the same way Russiagaters spent years tagging me in every HUGE BOMBSHELL WALLS ARE CLOSING IN item of thinly sourced narrative fluff in their debunked conspiracy theory that the Kremlin had infiltrated the highest levels of the US government.

    They are one hundred percent certain that the video shows Uighurs being loaded onto a train to go to a concentration camp, solely because that is what the bit of text over the video tells them they are seeing. They aren’t looking at the actual data and thinking critically about it, they’re looking at the narrative and believing it on blind faith. Which, in a post-Iraq invasion world, is an absolutely insane thing to do when presented with information about a nation that is targeted by the US-centralized empire.

    In reality there’s nothing in the video which tells us that these are Uighur people being sent to a “re-education camp” and not merely a conventional prison transfer of convicted criminals, the likes of which take place in the far more populous US prison system all the time. It’s an unknown. We are told by the BBC’s Andrew Marr (the same Andrew Marr whose phony journalism Noam Chomsky derided years ago) that it has been “authenticated by western intelligence agencies and by Australian experts”, which in practice are the same thing, and that’s really the extent of the evidence. Again, this is an insane source to take on faith in a post-Iraq invasion world.

    There are in fact an abundance of reasons to be highly skeptical of the establishment narrative about what is happening to Uighurs in Xinjiang. But that isn’t the point that I am trying to make here.

    The point I am trying to make here is that the only sane response to any narrative that is being promoted by western intelligence agencies and their media stenographers about governments which have resisted absorption into the imperial blob is intense and unrelenting skepticism. These organizations have such an extensive and well-known history of lying about exactly this sort of thing that they have left us no choice but to withhold belief from anything they say absent a mountain of independently verifiable evidence if we want to have a fact-based relationship with reality.

    None of this means that China has a wonderful government. It doesn’t even mean that all the bad things we’re being told about what the Chinese government is doing are false. It’s entirely possible that that video shows exactly what we’re being urgently told to believe it shows. There’s simply no way to be sure one way or the other in an information ecosystem that is so severely tainted by propagandistic narrative manipulation.

    Surely the Chinese government is far from sinless. It seems to be a constant that power structures which keep secrets and use propaganda will always wind up doing ugly things. But this doesn’t mean you go believing whatever cold war-facilitating story we are fed by western power structures about it. Not if we want to avoid being duped into serving as pro bono CIA propagandists, unwitting tools of a murderous war machine.

    There is a slow-motion third world war underway between the US-centralized power alliance and the nations like China which have resisted being absorbed into it, and that war is being largely facilitated by propaganda. If one doesn’t wish to become a propagandist themselves, one ought to withhold belief from the stories they are told about the terrible, awful things the unabsorbed nations are doing which require extensive sanctions, subversion, and interventionism in response.

    This doesn’t mean you believe the opposite of what you’re told, it simply means you refrain from believing either way and remain agnostic until presented with hard verifiable proof. Believing damaging narratives about US-targeted governments is exactly as stupid as believing the words of a known compulsive liar about someone you know he hates.

    China is such a curious anomaly in the narrative matrix. Many who are normally skeptical of claims by western governments immediately swallow anything they’re told about China. They not only believe all such claims, it never even occurs to them to seriously question them. Like they seem to be genuinely unaware that skepticism of establishment China narratives is even an option. The claims just slide right into the “believe” file in their mind, completely unchecked by anything resembling critical thought.

    I argue with people all over the political spectrum about China online, and an astonishing percentage of them have clearly put exactly zero research into critically examining these claims, even if they’re people who are normally relatively critical of western foreign policy. They’re often completely unaware that whatever claims they’re advancing are not just disputed but have large amounts of evidence against them. This is because they’ve done no research whatsoever into finding out what they were told is even true. They’ll do that research on Iran, they’ll do it about Russia, they’ll do it about Syria, but with China, all skepticism immediately goes right now the window. It’s the weirdest thing.

    Always be intensely skeptical of claims made about governments targeted by the known liars who run the US-centralized empire. Always, always, always, always. If you advance imperialist propaganda, then you are just as culpable for the bloodshed and suffering they help facilitate as the people who are actually launching the missiles.

    Stay skeptical, my friends.


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      1. No worries. With Bolton 2.0 (Pompeo) the BOB will be fulfilling all the wishes of the TDS. All the Chinese jobs will be coming back to the US. Along with the Chinese jobs will be Chinese slave wages. Enjoy your future.

        BOB – Big Orange Buffoon
        TDS – Trump’s Deranged Supporters

      2. Chinese ambassador Liu Xiaoming referred to the people in the video as “prisoners”.
        The CCP never refers to Uighurs as prisoners , in much the same way as US officials refer to Guantanamo prisoners as “detainees”.

        The words prison or re-education camps are forbidden. The
        official title is Education/Vocational training centers.

        so either Liu Xiaoming really screwed up OR this was a conventioal prisoner exchange.

        whenever you see Uighurs referred to as prisoners its coming from the likes of Andrew Marr not the CCP …they know how the word game is played

      3. Just saw that Yahoo has stopped all comments. Something big is going to happen…

      4. Caitlin said, “Believing damaging narratives about US”

        The word “narrative” appears, nine or ten times.

        What if we took a Matt 6:34 approach towards govt. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. And, we worked on Malthusian carrying capacity, and the crimes with victims, instead of instituting artificial scarcity and infighting. I’ve heard of Bastiat’s broken window and the consequences of peace. Doesn’t good faith provide enough busywork, without the hand of the state saboteur.

        For some decades, we had a state church and an underground, just like Red China. This comment still throws people, while we are openly not allowed to meet, sing, and bulldozers are now threatened, against the church buildings.

        This news genre believes in American concentration camps and waves of homeless getting railroaded, here, but not that undesirables are presently used for slave labor. Do you need to be shown where to pay for it?

        Some of our crematoriums now apparently work in overdrive, as CV-19 became the bandwagon for war. We later find out that source materials would have come Canada, and Western interests spent considerable millions in patenting this Marxian crisis.

      5. As George Carlin says; ‘I don’t believe anything my government tells me’.

        Words to live by – literally.

      6. Uighurs. Never heard a them. The time for reasoning with China is over. Nuke em.

      7. There are longer copies of the video out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYoeJ5U7cQ

        At the end you will see it looks as though the prisoners are being led AWAY from the trains, so must mean that they are already at their destination.

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