GOP Insider Admits: “That’s Just the Way It Is… We Choose the Nominee, Not the Voters”

by | Mar 17, 2016 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 125 comments

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    This GOP official made a brazen admission that, well, voting doesn’t matter.

    If you haven’t come to terms with that fact, then it’s probably about time that you did.

    Given the complex and deliberately obscure rules that the Republican and Democratic parties create for themselves, it is clear that it is not the voters of this country, but the insider party officials who actually determine who our leaders will be.

    This system is hardly a democracy, but it is reality.

    Many have surmised as much, as they watch the country going down the tubes year after year, but now their suspicions have been confirmed. CNBC reported:

    Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC, a day after GOP front-runner Donald Trump rolled up more big primary victories.

    “The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That’s the conflict here,” Curly Haugland, an unbound GOP delegate from North Dakota, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” on Wednesday. He even questioned why primaries and caucuses are held.


    This could lead to a brokered convention…

    “It could introduce Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, or it could be the other candidates that have already been in the race and are now out of the race [such as] Mike Huckabee [or] Rick Santorum. All those people could eventually become candidates on the floor,” Emineth said.


    “The rules haven’t kept up,” Haugland said. “The rules are still designed to have a political party choose its nominee at a convention. That’s just the way it is. I can’t help it. Don’t hate me because I love the rules.”

    They make the rules, they break the rules, everyone else follows their decision.

    It’s not like the Democrats even offered a real choice against Hillary Clinton – instead, the illusion of voting has moved forward, while the party tightly locked around super delegates and byzantine procedures to ensure that the decision had already been made before a single vote was cast.

    Power tends to corrupt, and create institutions for holding onto power. That cycle repeats, intensifies and expels excrement, corruption and tyranny.

    This network of control had allowed connected insiders, rich billionaires and elite, global architects to steer elections, select candidates and tilt the system in their favor.

    As Mark Twain keenly noted: “If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”

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      1. You guys can’t be suprised about this. It should be old news to most of us…

        • An insider’s guide to what could be the struggle to win a contested convention.

          Here’s How The Establishment (could) Steal The GOP Nomination From Trump



          Party bosses stand ready to gut some of Trump’s greatest primary-season successes. He won every one of South Carolina’s 50 delegates, by finishing first statewide and in each congressional district, but Trump is powerless to fill that slate with his own people.”

          THE ART OF THE DEAL – “There is nothing in the RNC’s rules that prohibits delegates from cutting a deal for their votes…”

          “Every delegate and alternate is already paying for individual travel costs to get to Cleveland. Most state parties tell delegates to expect to spend $3,000 out of pocket on airfare, hotel and meals, and for some it could prove an unexpected hardship.

          (Delegates are assigned hotels by state; some could end up paying for the La Quinta Inn, others stuck with a bill from the Ritz-Carlton.)”

          THE DISQUALIFYING ROUND – “If the primary calendar ends without any candidate emerging as its presumptive nominee, all those responsibilities will remain with RNC Chairman Reince Priebus.”

          “…if Trump doesn’t finish with a clear majority of delegates, Priebus will face immense pressure from party officials and donors to undermine him.”

          WATCH: GOP Establishment Elites Discuss How to Stop Trump — ‘All He Has Going for Him Is a Lot of Votes’

        • @ Johnny, Frankly I am surprised. If they cheat Trump at the convention I will immediately go to my county seat and change to independent.I tell my wife the fourth turning wouldn’t come if everything was working well. When people read in the paper that John Brown was hanged little did they know that within five years 600,000 of them would be dead also.

          • @ Beowulf, I was an independent for 20 yrs, starting when Clinton got to be president. Thought I could or would make a difference. Ha. What a joke that was. I was just p—ing in the wind.

            • Al

              Going independent will never make a difference because the D/R corporate machine passed laws to make it virtually impossible to run for national office as a solo independent human being. Over 50% of voters are unhappy enough to declare independent, but independent is not a party. Why are they not creating other parties? Independent is going nowhere, because the D/R corporate machine says so. Founding fathers opposed political parties for this reason. Scalia pushed Citizens United which made it virtually impossible for a Party to be autonomous from corporate money.

              At the most basic level, we gave control over our shelter, water, food, and survival to corporations. Willingly. Now we pretend we can control them. The only possibility to be free human beings is to take control back to ourselves. Not happening, except among a very few. Self-sufficiency is a lost art.

        • It must be recognized that the reality show called “Presidential Elections” is becoming extremely entertaining:

          Anonymous releases Donald Trump’s personal details (SSN)

          • Anonymous is full of crap.

            He confuses the political system of Islam with a religion.

            He also doesn’t recognize that some people win wars and others lose them. Our people won this country. Native people lost. That’s the way it is. Our people lost other wars in the past and were overrun and enslaved. Should I get reparations from Rome because they invaded Germany, France, and England, where most of my ancestors were born? Or should I get reparations from other civilizations even further back in time who invaded and enslaved other ancestors?

            Anonymous says he is for the Constitution, but supports the protestors trying to shut Trump up. He gives out information that can be used to target Trump.

            Maybe this is a fake Anonymous video.

            Go read about his beloved White Rose Society:

            ht tp://

            See if you agree with anything on that site.

            • Paraphrasing Leo Strauss’ the Vulgar Many*:
              The majority of people living in the United States are lovers of wealth and pleasure; they are selfish, slothful, and indolent. These people can also be inspired to rise above their brutish existence only by fear of impending death or catastrophe.

              Donald Trump is simply capitalizing on the ignorance and gullibility of the American populace in order to maximize the net revenues for the Trump brand (via marketing and advertising, courtesy of mainstream media).

              *Leo Strauss was a German-American political philosopher and classicist who specialized in classical political philosophy (September 20, 1899 – October 18, 1973).

              • If you hate living in the US feel free to leave and move to North Korea or Cuba or heck, for giggles, the socialist paradise of Venezuala.

                Strauss sounds like another Germany that was brought to the US via Operation Paperclip and never adapted to American culture. Oh well. I think regular people are intelligent and informed. I don’t view common folk as chattel. But there is always some moron that thinks they know the best way for everyone else to think and live their lives. Shove off and take your boot to stomp on someone else’s head.

                • I second that, Philo.

                  America, even as low as it has sank spiritually, is still home.

                  Anyone that doesn’t see her that way, should pack their shit and hit the dusty trail to commie land.

                  We are still freedom loving and christian majority, peoples.

                  The trump haters are either delusional or just want more of the same old lies and bs coming out of D.C.

                  NO, trumpster can’t return the USSAG back to pre 60’s lifestyles that put GOD before GOV, but he may be able to convince enough moderates with a hint of a conscience, to stop some of the bleeding.

          • Anonymous is a ZOG funded program most likely by George Soros, that was set up for Occupy Wallstreet to create chaos, and try to tear the Government down. These implanted shills work many sides to create chaos. They also use these threats to get more funding for like the DHS which is run by the same tribe of shills, and which 97% of all grants by the DHS have gone to Jewish Organizations. Christians get NOTHING. The DHS is just about fleecing Tax payers to enrich the Jews. Just more of the same. We need to rid out country of every one of these jackasses undermining our Republic.


        • The party is supposed to be the people in the Party. The party members. Which is every party member who voted. Not the party leaders.
          Never seems to work out that way thou.

        • That is why I do not Vote my friends. Because with our system, it really does not matter. The keep the illusion alive by telling you it does. Millions of smart people out there and we have it limited to 2? Thats not even close to freedom of choice. George Carlin has the best take on not voting, search it on you-tube worth a laugh and applies so much more today than ever before. The I voted buttons or I voted stickers… easily translated “I’m a Sheeple”, “I’m a slave to the system”…

          • Patriot of Freedom.

            I can understand what you have said and today it is has become very clear to others.

            We have played by the rules of decency and had hoped that what we feared was untrue.

            Whatever happens down the road my conscience will be clear for it is THEY who have betrayed US.

            One Political Party calls us Cowards, Traitors and Terrorist while the other pretends to be more righteous and knowingly undermines the voice of the people.


            They are worse than a crooked used car salesmen.

        • JohnnyinMt, I’ve known it longer than most others here. I’ve never even been a registered voter.

        • I giggled my ass off when I heard this.

        • Have you noticed that modern musik all sounds the fucking same?

          Electronic bubble gun synth-pop generic love and peace bullshit?

          The vast majority of all hit songs the last few years were written by only 4 European producers. Millions of dollars in marketing is spent to garner a publik following over these adolescent pop pukes.

          It has been shown that repeated exposure to a song you don’t initially like eventually causes you to habituate to it.

          Remember when Randy Rhoads, Marty Friedman, Jimi Hendrix, and Van Halen could actually play an instrument?

          Bohemian Rhapsody was written by one man.

          Stairway to Heaven was written by two men.

          Modern art is shit as well.

          Ever seen Michelangelo or Rembrant?

          Now tell me how expressionistic Jackson Pollock is. It’s shit on a fucking canvas, that’s what it fucking is.

          The old masters actually could actually paint and carve very lifelike images. That requires talent.

          I fucking hate modern society.

          Corporate fucking bullshit.

          Don’t give anybody a single dollar of your money unless they earned it.

          • You do know that you can dial in a different station on your radio, don’t you?

            I listen to oldies created and performed by my generation. This morning I was driving my pickup truck and heard “Love Hurts,” “Bette Davis Eyes,” and “Brown Sugar.” The exception was “Love Hurts,” as it was written by two people born in the 1920s.

            I very rarely listen to anything newer than about 1986, except for country. I occasionally listen to records from as far back as the 1890s. As Archivist, I have almost all the records that ever charted or would have charted.

            Right now I’m listening to Richard Clayderman playing the piano.

          • Acid, good points about today’s ALLEGED music. I don’t listen to it either.

        • “Salary is commensurate with degree, experience, and credentials.”

          Translation: “We know the 25% of the fucking country has no jobs, so we’re going to pay slave wages to people with graduate degrees.”

          “Millennials don’t want to assume their responsibility.”

          Translation: “Millennials aren’t paying enough in taxes to support entitlements for our lazy boomer asses.”



          • My generation is paying most of the taxes. I’m still paying taxes. I have to pay federal income tax on most of my social security, which was originally supposed to be tax-free, because of the small amount of money I make on the side. On top of that, the check is so small that it takes half of it to buy groceries for two people.

            After taxes, my check is just a few hundred dollars.

            I do more work in an hour of my retirement than most millennials do in a whole week.

          • Well stupid, opt out of the system.

          • Acid, f#$% you, your damn self. I’m straight and you chose to be a faggot, so I know I’m doing something right. Stupid kid.

            • You know braveheart, you’re really special. First you suck up to acid and then spurn him in the same thread. He plays you like a violin and you NEVER will figure it out. Keep on feeding him, he needs your type to thrive here.

              • Anon, I just play with acid. although I still have SOME reservations about him, I’ll take him over a troll anytime.

        • You boomers started out with promise in the 60’s.

          What the fuck happened to you?

          You vowed to fight the man.

          Now you are the man.

          • Yet somehow you prefer music created and performed by boomers.

          • Acid, we might ask the same question of you.



      2. Yep old news been that way from day 1 with george washington

      3. Well if voting really did matter it would be declared illegal! Only a fool thinks otherwise.

        • Heh

      4. Pretty Arrogant isn’t it? Little do they know how armed the populace is. They will be crying for their Mommas, if they Fuck Trump over. Even Trump said there will be mass riots if they deny him the nomination even a few delegate votes short. These Bastards do not care about anything but their own greedy hellbent agenda. Prep on lots of Long sturdy Rope.


        • Never happen. White people don’t riot. Its that simple.

        • If only the rope Idea could really happen…
          Well, it they do cheat trump there will be 100 million very pissed off people out there. So something may happen.

      5. Godsoldier, it could be argued that back then, the voters still had some influence over the election proceedings. Even up to the TR election. Since 1912, or therabouts, voting hasn’t meant crap, that’s a certainty.

      6. Our Nation’s future does not look good no matter how hard we try to put a good foot forward.

        Keep Prepping.

        • WHY IS THERE NO ANARCHIST CANDIDATE? Oh ya cause wouldn’t need them because we would govern ourselves. Ehhh, we might do that anyway till the piece of shit, lowlife, statist commie scumbags find us and declare that they rule still. Perhaps I need to get some more bodie bags just in case (for them) I don’t want to smell rotting alpha agency/military/cops/statist assholes that think I need to obey them. Give me anarchy or give me death mutherfooker!

      7. One would think there would be a logical solution to combat this peacefully. Right in our face proof that votes don’t count, just go shopping and STFU.

        • aljamo, I did just that 🙂 Got me some new accessories and a conex and truck parts and… and… and… I’m running out of shit I think I need to buy. I spent probably 5K in the last week on stuff, I am helping the economy lol.

      8. amazing how many people are just now waking up to this

        even people on this site

        • yet, there are still people on here that deny this or yet make comments making it sound like they believe their vote and ours still count

          or even supporting a candidate , or saying who they are going to vote for


          • I don’t know if it is waking up or just in pure shock that they feel embrazened enough to openly tell the people, YOU DON’T MATTER. I hope people will finally wake up and realize that these parties are for the ultra rich and no one else. When the rich elites funding the GOP start pushing gun control, the GOP will fall in line right along with the DEMs.

            • You betcha
              100% on the mark

            • JAS
              How do you ignore the Patriot Act? The Republican push through recently of a $30+ trillion bank sterling bailout part 2?

      9. I wonder if we could organize a class action lawsuit against the RNC for fraudulently getting people to vote for a candidate, when they actually choose who the nominee will be. I truly feel mislead and like everyone, thought my “vote” would actually count. They bait and switch- leading us to believe we choose.

        Any lawyers out there?

        • Yeah! Its the Firm of Smith/Wesson and Springfield Att For Law!!
          Semper Fi

        • ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!

        • You mean lawyers that aren’t in some sort of political office? Lawyers are foreign agents anyway. I think cameraman has the answer lol. I called into a radio show once that had a lawyer on answering legal questions, I asked him what BAR stood for, He didn’t know lol.

          • Genius, the Bar Association only exists to pretend that attorneys self-regulate and it is unnecessary to pass actual laws to regulate their behavior. LLCs were created to allow law firms to exist such that partners were no longer legally liable for each other’s illegal behavior… this happened in my career in law firms and the moral decay was instant and shocking.

      10. Soros funded Anti-Trump Groups Plot “Democracy Spring” – Largest Civil Disobedience Action Of The Century

        “Following their apparently delusional belief in the “success” of Tuesday night’s violent protests, anti-Trump groups are plotting “Democracy Spring” threatening “drama in Washington” with the “largest civil disobedience action of the century.”

        Anti-American George Soros trying to Control US Media
        “Every month, reporters, writers and bloggers at the many outlets he funds easily reach more than 330 million people around the globe.”

        “Soros denies he has a media empire, despite spending easily more than $48 million on that empire and having top journalists from more than 30 major news organizations serving on the boards of groups he funds.

        *Billionaire George Soros has already spent or committed over $13 million to shape/influence this election cycle.

        • KY mom
          Thank Scalia for Citizens United and unlimited corporate money. You haven’t acknowledged the Koch machine collectionof $900 million to affect this election cycle. They admit they have $400 million left and aren’t spending it until after the primaries.

      11. I have voted Republican all my life. I have only had one candidate that I enjoyed voting for. That was 30 years ago. Ever since then I was just voting for what I felt was the lesser of two evils.

        For years you can see that the parties are pretty much the same. There are a few exceptions but not many. If the elite in charge of this thing really do deny trump then I feel violence will ensue. I also feel that from this point forward protest and violence will be present at several of trumps rally’s.

        We all have known that this is the way the elites operate. We all have known that they buy and decide elections. To come out and state it publicly is a new step. A new level of arrogance. It is shocking to me that it was stated publicly. These are such dangerous times. I did not see this one coming.

        If this is done what will come of it? It could be the spark that sets the fireworks off. The country is divided. Done by design I might add. So many things right now could be a spark. Then it is on. Either over race, politics, or religion. Something to seriously watch. If a rally is coming to your city then maybe it is time to take a vacation.

        • Mike in VA,

          I understand how you feel.

          I do believe LOCAL elections are important and the starting point of any kind of change. I am thankful our sheriff strongly supports the second amendment.

          “One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

          That said, I continue to vote.

          I am sure the libs would LOVE to have many people just stop voting out of disgust for the system.

          Meanwhile, the libs are actively encouraging and allowing illegals and refugees into the country to build their voter base. They willingly register anyone with a pulse who they believe would help KEEP THEM in power, including illegals, refugees, etc.

          Refugees are fast tracked and given voting rights.

          “Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants invited into the United States with green cards are granted automatic work permits, welfare access, and the ability to become voting citizens.”
          ht tp://

          • KY mom
            The REPUBLICAN PARTY just admitted your vote does not count inside the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

        • Remember this…
          June 2014…
          Central American radio and television ads (probably paid for by American taxpayers) encourage people to move north to the United States.
          ht tp://

          Administration is now IMPORTING FELONS into the U.S.
          Report: Deported Immigrations to Be Flown Back into USA – paid for by Taxpayer Money

          “This year, the U.S. (tax payers) will pay for unaccompanied alien “children” (The majority are young men who “report” their age as “17”) to be flown into the country, even if they were convicted of a FELONY, and furnish them with federal benefits to boot.”

          It’s called the In-Country Refugee/Parole Program for Central American Minors.”
          ht tp://

          Dec. 2015 – AZ Sheriff Babeu: We’ve Had 10,000 Unaccompanied Juveniles In Two Months, Obama Admin Says ‘Border Is Wide Open’

          “Pinal County, AZ Sheriff and Congressional candidate Paul Babeu (R) stated, “just the last two months alone, we’ve had 10,000 unaccompanied juveniles” who are “staying here” and that “the Obama administration says the border is wide open, that there is no law (when) it comes to immigration” on Monday’s “Cavuto: Coast to Coast” on the Fox Business Network.”
          ht tp://

          Get a free year of benefits (food stamps, Obamacare, housing, etc. and be “18” to vote in the 2016 election.
          Border patrol ordered to “stand down” and let the illegals stay.

          The overwhelming largest group of illegals reported are 17-year-old males. “Seventeen” appears to be the “most common GIVEN age” for illegal males.
          It must be common knowledge that those under 18 qualify for extra benefits.
          ht tp://

          building the voter base for 2016…
          “Local state government officials are registering non-U.S. citizens as valid voters – even when the non-citizens say they are NOT Americans on their voter registration forms, a former Justice Department attorney tells The Daily Caller.”
          ht tp://

      12. I have yet to meet ONE person who said that Mitt Romney or John McCain were their choice for the nomination. Not one. Yet they were the choice we were given.

        • Justice,
          yup! and it is a real shame more people have not woke up and started this fire a LONG-time ago ,we might not be in this shape or maybe not as bad if they did !

        • McCaine and Romney were both lousy choices, the fact of the matter is that the elites are doing this on purpose,
          The only thing i can do,
          Is to step as far back from the main stream as possible, self sufficiency, reduced consumption, etc, marginally effective, but better than just throwing up your hands,
          Ill take the bumpy ride and deal with this crap as it flows out. Sooner or later it will come to a head.

        • My all-time favorite was Bob “It’s my turn” Dole.

          Nice guy, my Dad knew his family in Kansas, but the Senate was as high as he should have ever gone.

      13. So when are we going to stop all this talking and rebel the real way. Prepping doesn’t guarantee you shit. Fighting gives you a chance to take US back

      14. Now, with the talk about riots concerning the Presidential election process, is the perfect time for Mr. Obama, the official spokesman for THEM, to suspend the elections ‘for your safety’ of course.

      15. How nice of them to confirm what many of us have suspected for a long time. They in their hubris have a fuck-you attitude towards their base. Tell the rubes that live outside the beltway, what they want to hear and they are dumb enough to continue to send us money and to vote for us. They and the party of evil (aka democrats) are bipartisan in their contempt for the American public. If they are so smart then how well did their choices of Dole, McCain or Romney work out for winning the White House?

        It seems to me that they are content to lose, just so long as they get their cut of the power and the money.
        Well guess what I don’t care who gets on the ballot. I am with drawing my consent to a corrupt and rigged system. I am NOT voting this coming election. Why should I? What is the point of voting for the party of the dead elephant when they are nothing more than a me-too light version of the party of evil? If the only choice is the lesser of two evils, then I refuse to vote.

        To the GOP establishment and the other PTB: FOAD!

      16. Will the WILL of the People win or the Will of the Republican Party.

        It’s almost, SHOWTIME. ;0)

      17. He is right the GOP may decide who the candidate for the party is going to be. If they use rule 40 which they put in to stop Ron Paul it has to be a candidate that won 8 states. By convention time there will be only two candidates Donald Trump and Ted Cruz who have won 8 states. If the go with anyone else the party is dead and we will see third parties or may be riots as Trump speculated…

        • GOP Establishment Elites Discuss How to Stop Trump
          (At a private luncheon in Washington, DC)

          “All He Has Going for Him Is a Lot of Votes”

        • rabbitone

          “may be riots”

          Never happen as he is generally a white candidate and they don’t riot. When masses of people lost a fortune in their investments nothing happened. The brothers kill over $5 and chant, “No justice, no peace”. Their view of justice is a bit different too.

          “You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time”.
          President Abraham Lincoln

          • Kevin2, in general I have to agree with you about rioting over a white candidate. Most of Trump supporters are white and suburban. And as I heard a speaker state one time “rich men don’t revolt”. But there are some down and outs on the fringe that have not worked in quite a while, had their factories shut down and sick of EBT and excuses. They may be some of those who protest loudly because Trump appears to be their last hope…

            • I feel for them but Sanders people are getting the same treatment for the same reasons. I think it likely that many of those Sanders supporters are those former industrial workers too.

              Regardless the public as in “We The People” are about to get an eye opening education in the corruption that isn’t in the system but its systemic because it is the system. Speaking of “We The People” all I’m hearing in the US is, “The Party” be it Democrat or Republican. That high and lofty phrase was formerly held for our enemy’s, the NAZI Party or the Communist Party because we were just referred to as “The People”.

              • Kevin your comment is one of the most insightful that I have read on this site or anywhere else for that matter.
                You hit it in the nail, the lesson were so about to learn stark reality.

          • Instead of riots, which I believe you’re correct, Kevin, I would call for a nation wide strike, or boycott, of everything. Don’t go to work, don’t buy anything, just shut the damn country down for a while.
            Won’t happen, but it would get their attention.

            • Ketchupondemand

              Yes that strategy worked to great effect against the Communists in Poland with Lech Walesa and Czechoslovakia with Vaclav Havel and by extension the USSR. Gandhi used it effectively too with Great Britain in India. None of them wanted to relinquish power.

              In event of striking on a mass scale, if it snowballed into a successor government, assuming that is the case, the most violent of the gangs which would arise wouldn’t be in control. That gives you Hitler and Stalin. The US was ultra rare that a government forged out of war was so benevolent. Today we’re very short of Founding Fathers quality leadership to make that happen. Saving a lot of lives and not destroying your infrastructure is damn sure a plus too. Regardless just the show of unity would be powerful in itself. The thought almost brings a tear to the eye with white, black, brown, yellow, old, young, male and female standing side by side. It would be overwhelming. Its a dream of the moral sane.

              • Thats why Trumpster could be a good pres, he is strong enough IMHO to unify those of us who feel disenfranchised and give us a voice, allow us to pitch our proposals, if he is elected, getting rid of dead weight life long political hacks could work, i think many of those career politicians are at the end of their road, the worst thing about those assholes is the fact that theyvoted themselves cushy life long benefits, THAT is enough to want the whole pile o shit come unglued, i would gladly take my lumps and then some to be able to witness the political class self destruct, i would love to see them eradicated by angry mobs. THAT would be justice, plain and simple.

        • They have already said they may waive that rule for the convention this year. Stating that they make the rules and can change them at any time.

      18. “The people who cast the ballots decide nothing. It’s the people who count the ballots who decide everything.” Joseph Stalin

        • Braveheart1776

          The Soviets did their dirty work with thuggery. The US does it with finesse. The USSR did not follow their laws. The US has the laws written with loopholes that intentionally fit the given situation making the action merely unethical but not illegal.


          • I thought it was Tiflis Spiritual Seminary.


      19. Kevin2, that is sad but true. To everyone, over at One scary article!

        • Good info but there is one stupid statement on that site:

          “Why is DHS buying microphones, if they’re not being used to spy on Americans?”

          The article had just stated that DHS had bought radios. You need microphones to talk on radios. Duh.

          Anyway, someone would have to be really stupid to give the government copies of family photos. Maybe I should put up a huge poster of Dirty Harry and his Magnum on my front porch so they can update their threat assessments merely by driving by.

          • Just fly a GadsDen right under your stars n stripes, that got attention in my neighborhood.

            • A neighbor down the road has an “Appeal to Heaven” pine tree flag in his front yard.

              I think there’s a lot of people in my area who just don’t care what anyone else, including the government, thinks about what they do or say.

              If I put up a flag, I don’t think many people would notice it much.

              I live in a diverse neighborhood. I have retired military, sheriff deputies, highway patrolmen, Mexicans, Vietnamese, etc. There is target practice occasionally on both sides of me. The Vietnamese are manufacturing lobster cages in their front yard. They are quiet except for the riveting. Some of the Mexicans had goats and chickens, but the dogs got the chickens and I think the Mexicans made chili or something out of the goats. I haven’t heard the goats in a while. They used to break out and come visit last year, but not long enough to keep me from having to mow the back yard.

              • Cool. I love that you said the Vietnemese are producing their own lobster / crap pots. Jerk goat is always good. Put enough peppers and onions on any type of meat and it is going to taste good.

                If I have to mow my BOL I am in the wrong place. Unless it is being mowed by local goats.

          • Anyone using facebook and posting their entire life history complete with pictures is doing exactly what you said, only way to make it easier for the spooks would be to email the files directly to them in a zip file.

          • Archivist, good point. I’ve already made my own “threat assessment” of the fedgov. And it’s not good. I’ll leave it at that.

        • I wouldnt believe that article except that 6 months ago a power company truck was driving around taking photos and checking out power poles in my area. The problem is that the power company dosent own our poles or lines. We do. We just buy the generated power from them. When I contacted the power company they were surprised that someone had come out because they all knew that they had no authority over the area. So who was it?

      20. All I can say is that we are too comfortable with the status quo.
        The Founders got pissed off enough to leave their homes and risk their lives and wealth to fight for freedom. At the Bundy ranch, they should have killed all the federals, every one of them, run them down, and executed them. If you aren’t willing to do that, then shut up, be a slave, plan for your BOL, and hope the world passes you by.
        In my state I am subject to single party Democrat socialist rule. I have no say, my vote is an absolute waste. All I can do is go Galt as much as possible. I’d happily kill every Democrat cop and politician in the state, but I’d die and be labeled a terrorist, so I wont do that, since the rest of my fellow Gone Galt’s won’t rise up and help out. One guy blowing up a Federal building is a terrorist, 150 guys killing 25 cops at a ranch might be a movement. 5,000 armed guys showing up at the capitol and arresting the government is impressive. Cap all the leaders in the process. Det cord around the necks might be a good touch.
        Until enough of us are willing to cross that line, shut up, pay your taxes, keep your head down, and vote often!
        Keep on prepping!

        • Yep.

        • Going Galt IS my plan, so far so good, if the hippies and tens of thousands of local cruizers can just exist, get by and fly under the radar so can I. Only difference is i bathe, dont smoke dope or crack, dont drink, and dont want nor need anything from the system.
          As for going all crazy on their asses,,, i enjoy my freedom too much to go off the deep end, for now anyway, the day may come, but that day aint today, not picking un winnable fights thanks.

          • “not picking un winnable fights thanks”.
            Right on. My Sun Tzu is right next to one of my bibles in
            one of the bookcases I have stashed around the compound.

      21. That’s right the delegates decide. People will do nothing if trump is not the nominee. They will continue to piss and moan about the country going down the pipe. If we spent more time on self reliance and less on this pissing contest we would be doing damn good. Let’s it back and watch the government collapse and take advantage of the crisis. I’m not falling for this bullshit race baiting. I’m not going after blacks. I will protect my family. I blame the corrupt gov for all this.

      22. Might have to make a run to the border before Mexico builds the wall to keep us from running down there and stealing their jobs

      23. “You can fool some of the people all of the time,
        You can fool all of the people some of the time,
        And those are pretty good odds.”

        Our government.

      24. First they defy the will of the people who put them in office, and now the want to disregard the will of the people in choosing their candidate.
        If they go ahead with something this stupid, rule .308 may be the only option left to us.

      25. Hey FUCK YOU curly pube

        • You know why they’re curly?

          So they don’t poke you in the eye.

          [an oldie from the 1970s]

      26. Of course they will try to stop Trump. Will we let it happen? Good time to voice our opinion.

      27. Here is my response to all this nonsense…since our place is paid off im going to cut my work hours down to a minimum approx. 35,000 less dollars that can be taxed…YAAAY!

      28. Anonymous is not about the constitution. They are a fraud posing liken they support it. My scientist told me about that over A year ago.. They claim to support the constitution and are attacking Trump.. I can rely on my friends data..if Trump gets election a mass arrest of cabalist will follow..including the removal of jihadist training camps all over the country including the one in Freeport, Texas called mahmoodberg.

        Yes folks do a search on a Google and see what went in down there and is still going on. Things are going to get ready bad in the very near future coming up. I still cannot see h3 election going through.. they are going to do somehow g major, something huge to trigger the end game callapse and submerge us into SHTF.



        Shtf just around the corner..

        • Same as last year and the year before that?

      29. It seems many people who claim to be for the constitution don’t understand that we are a republic and not a democracy?

      30. Sorry GOP NeoCons…
        Thanx to the Internet, enuf have been awakened now and the genie’s out of the bottle.
        Now matter how u handle Trump, you can no longer keep enuf of us from understanding that EVERYTHING is manipulated
        and this time, we truly refuse to take it anymore.
        You may get away with ‘wacking’ or silencing Trump but
        the rebellion against the Globalist Banksters and Corporatists is about to go exponential!

      31. The intent is obvious since Noahide law was considered and possibly enacted in America in 1991 under Poppy Bush, the head chopping Curious George. He also was president in the push for NAFTA passed to Clinton to enact. Obama is yet another Bush controlled yes man, when is this old pure evil codger going to croak?

        • I keep seeing messages that mention the Noahide laws as if they are somehow evil. Those laws are supposed to be part of God’s covenant with Noah after the Flood, and which all of us, as descendants of Noah, are supposed to follow.

          The Ten Commandments were given to the Israelites, but not to the rest of us. Jesus said to love God and other people, which covers all of the Ten Commandments except keeping the Sabbath.

          For those who are interested, here are the Noahide laws:

          1. Do not deny God.
          2. Do not blaspheme God.
          3. Do not murder.
          4. Do not engage in illicit sexual relations.
          5. Do not steal.
          6. Do not eat of a live animal.
          7. Establish courts/legal system to ensure obedience to the law.

          No. 3 & 6 are specifically mentioned in Genesis. No. 7 is implied. The others are things we obviously shouldn’t do.

          That 1991 bill passed by Congress created Education Day, and in its preamble it acknowledged the historical fact of the existence of the Noahide laws.

          So, what’s the problem with the fact that those laws existed? I’m curious.

        • aljamo

          GH Bush controls Obama? Obama doesn’t answer to Bush; TPTB control them all.

      32. As the RINOs discuss openly how they are going to co-opt the convention to suit their purposes, I look at the possible dissolution of any semblance of organized opposition to all things pertaining to socialism and “progressive” ism. Are they going to be surprised when 30 to 40 percent of their base doesn’t show up to vote in November? Will they care as they throw themselves on their swords to undercut Trump? Yes, don’t be fooled… they don’t like Cruz either. But Cruz can be reasoned with- that is, he can be bought. This is the most interesting election of my life. We have a viable, unbelievable cussing, rich candidate. We have a stinking socialist (at least he hates the banksters). Talk about polar opposites!
        I’m sure I will be reminded that voting is for schmucks, but I’ll just say, IMO, that if one abdicates their vote, they should shut their pie hole about ANYTHING political for the remainder of their life. If voting didn’t count, why are so many illegals and dead people showing up?

      33. OK, I didn’t vote for McCain in the primary but fell inline with McCain & Palin in the general election. I didn’t vote for Romney in the primary but fell inline with Romney and Ryan in the general election. This time I voted for Trump and you expect me to fall inline for someone that didn’t even run in the primary!! NOT!!!
        Having voted in every presidential election since 1972, if this convention is stolen I will not be voting. The Republican party will implode upon itself and will cease to exist. The elites will have NOTHING LEFT to rule.

      34. Picking one of these idiots says
        I can’t think for myself , so I need someone to do it for me

      35. We’ve known this for years. If you can’t see it, you’re blind. Every election, national or local, the candidates all promise the moon. Once in, they get plastered with the party line. Toe the line or get pushed aside. Most toe the line, and all the good they could have done is buried deep.

        Our government has become a tyrant. The Democrats openly screw the heck out of us. The Republicans seem to be more refined in the manner we get screwed. But never doubt, they both put it to us.

        As far as candidates currently campaigning, Trump will never sit as president. He will be disqualified by the Republican elite such as the wack job John McCain. McCain already thinks the American public are all “wacko’s”.

        This continued slide into fascism by our government is designed to be slow and gradual so that we don’t revolt. It’s a lot like the frog in the pot of water that is coming to a boil. He won’t know he’s being boiled until it’s too late.

        Of all the folks out there, I think retired Col. Allen West is the only one with the courage to tell it like it is. He has recently been quoted as stating that if the Republican convention is brokered and a main line candidate is instead put forth, there will be rebellion. I wait to see if the people of this country still have the spirit to stand and fight for what they believe or if they truly are nothing more than sheep.

      36. Trump having the nomination taken away ,if that is the will of the people should result in a protest.
        A peaceful protest, just like the ones held by the lgbt,black lives matter, police shootings,liberals and immigration protesters along with the,car,phone,food,Heath care,housing ppl, when they feel they are not getting their fare shake.
        All of those people should stop working for a month. So, start prepping , get ahead on your bills,store some food,money,ammo, fuel. Wear cammo clothing so you can identify each other.
        Just take that month to think about what just happened. Do not contribute to the system that just took away your constitutional rights, because it does not exist anymore.
        Let those that think you don’t count run things for awhile . Just like the movie “it’s a wonderful life” with jimmy Stuart . Stand back and see what happens when the farmer stops giving,the teachers stop teaching, the truck drivers stop trucking, the construction workers stop constructing,police stop policing. That peaceful protest will undoubtedly turn into riots in the streets. Not by the peaceful protesters that are all prepped out, it will be by the ones that took your rights, the ones that get the free food.

      37. Trump will lose the general. The republican candidates were afraid of him and wouldn’t take him on until it was too late. Rubio did a child like attack and everyone else kept their heads down. Kind of fun watching grown men cower from the bully hoping they wouldn’t be targeted. Clinton will slaughter him. The republicans have good options and should pick someone else. They will upset the morons voting for trump and will lose the general, but will still have a future.

        • ” Clinton will slaughter him. ”

          Quite to the contrary. The issue propelling Trump is the Free Trade agreements and Hillary’s corruption taking $26 million from Goldman Saks. The former will entice middle of the road fence sitters to either vote for Trump or stay home. The $26 million will sway millions against her.

          The rubber has met the road with Free Trade as the promises made from GH Bush 41 through Obama of the new, “High tech jobs of the future” have failed to materialize in the 26 years and three Presidential Administrations covering both political party’s.

          Trump has every man and woman’s ear that used to make good money in manufacturing and now makes minimum wage. That is a LOT of people. Hillary has no defense.

          All Trump needs is that Republican nomination.

      38. Fuck them , stop working and contributing to them, there will be riots in the streets within a month.

      39. Why VOTE? It’s a complete waste of time. The next president of the United States has already been selected. The End….

      40. Just a ploy to reduce the robust Republican turnout for Trump.

      41. Trump is a fraud. He’s a fake conservative who cannot win in November. I hope the GOP does find a better candidate – one who will actually defend the Constitution.

        • lggyPop

          i’m wondering what the real conservatives have done for us over the last couple of decades? Iraq? Championing the deregulation of the Financial Sector? Free Trade? If they’re our friends what are our enemies?

          • Kevin2 and Iggy Pop

            Real conservatives are citizens, not part of the D/R corporate machine. They are sold to the highest bidder. It will take more than a President, anyway. ALEC writes legislation even for state and local governments. Laws firms like where I worked write nearly all federal legislation… paid by global megacorporations. Our reps don’t write legislation anymore. It is truly a corporate machine. Elect Trump, but don’t expect some miraculous savior. I would laugh if he exposed the massive machine. He runs his mouth about Megan Kelley, but doesn’t bring up GE, Exxon, BP, Chase Bank (wrote the next bailout legislation passed by Boehner and Obama), Monsanto, Dupont, Dow, Koch, and so on. Early in, he asked to go to parade before the Koch brothers with the rest of them asking for funding and they told him no chance. That is not a man who doesn’t want to be bought.

            I think the answer is to stop playing Monopoly with them. Play a different game altogether, build a separate economy (some are already doing this… no cash is to kill or control this new economy), join other parties, boycott the big players (many are already doing this… megacorporations are applying for businesses by the hundreds daily), we have the power to recreate our country. Sure, watch the greatest sideshow on Earth, don’t believe any of it. Trump has been given endless hours of free corporate paid time on the news. When was the last time you heard a report on ALEC or Monsanto or the small businesses that are being created? People are furious about DC… oh surprise… both parties have an “angry” candidate in the wings. Get real and build something new. This whole global megacorporation structure is fragile, it is already crumbling. Knock it down. Start building its replacement now. Prepping is not just stacking, it is creating a new economy. The farther down that path we are, the better the break will be. Peppers are stacking, but a lot of other people are rebuilding. Look at sites that are talking about what people are up to.

            • Rebecca

              I’ll hedge my bets with Trump at this juncture. Calling out GW Bush on Iraq to his kid brother was fantastic. Just saying, “Audit The Federal Reserve” is music.

              Cruz, Rubio……….Establishment

              My choice was Rand Paul. I’ll try Trump. I don’t know if I can prostitute myself any further than that but might when the NRA ILA voting guide comes out in October. I been doing it for years.

              • Kevin2
                The primaries haven’t gotten to my state yet. Between the 3 I would take Dump. I consider it a no choice election. Have no idea who I will vote for in the general… who will the parties run?

      42. “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” -Joseph Stalin-

        And Stalin died in 1953. The only thing about this that is new is that now the sheeple are finally starting to pay attention. And its about time too.
        Wake up and smell the coffee, sleepy zombies!

      43. If your vote didn’t count they wouldn’t be so concerned about Trump. With all the tricks and shinanigans behind the scene, I think wise people should vote. Wouldn’t it be a kick in the pants if your vote did count, but you got suckered into apathy allowing the opposition to win. Better to be a sheeple than a stupid sheeple.

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