A “flat-earther” is one who believes the Earth is flat. And “Mad” Mike Hughes is so determined to prove the Earth is flat, he’s going to launch himself into the air in a homemade rocket.
You may remember Hughes. His little stunt to “prove Earth is flat” was put on hold when the government found out about it and decided to shut down his project. But now, Hughes has set a new date to launch himself into orbit in a homemade rocket after his previous attempt was thwarted by a US federal agency.
Hughes, a limousine driver and self-described daredevil revealed on his Facebook page that he will carry out the vertical rocket launch on February 3 from the originally intended location of Amboy, California. Perhaps one of the biggest problems with this launch, it Hughes is only going 1800 feet up. Planes can go higher than that.
https://www.facebook.com/madmikehughes/posts/1719265101459157:0
Hughes previous comments seem to allude to the fact that he knows the risks, and are willing to take them. “I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air, about the certain size of rocket nozzles, and thrust,” he added. “But that’s not science, that’s just a formula. There’s no difference between science and science fiction. If you’re not scared to death, you’re an idiot,” Hughes, who once reassured Ars Technica that he has a high I.Q., said. “It’s scary as hell, but none of us are getting out of this world alive.”
Hughes says this newly scheduled vertical launch, which will see him lifted half a mile into the air on February 3, will now take place on private land owned by the owner of Amboy, Albert Okura. “It is absolutely the most wacky promotional proposal I have had since I purchased the entire town in 2005,” Okura said previously if Hughes. “He is a true daredevil and I want to be part of it.”
A promo video has been released ahead of the launch, which will be broadcast live on Noize TV at a cost of $5 according to Hughes. A full-length documentary is also in the works to help boost media exposure about Hughes’ $1.8 million project to catapult him to the Karman line, which is widely accepted as the start of space. The Karman line is 62 miles up from the Earth, however, so Hughes has a long way to go considering this launch will get him less than a half a mile into the air.
For Hughes, the ultimate goal of this rocket launch is the “one true way to prove a flat Earth” really exists. “The event right now is a vertical rocket launch which no person has done outside the government space agency,” Hughes said in the video, adding that if he pulls it off it, will be a world record.
Why go up if you can just go off the edge?
Enclosed system. Google image search the walls of ice in “Antarctica”. We live in a enclosed system, firmament above and firmament below. Not exactly like a snowglobe but it is a representation that can give your mind something to wrap around visually. Like cymatics giving your mind something to wrap around when trying to understand how God spoke it all into existence.
Utter tripe. The earth is a globe and the Bible says so in Isaiah 40:22.
Many people who believe the earth is flat do so based on Christ’s Temptation event, where He was shown all the world’s kingdoms from a high mountain.
Never mind the fact that Luke 2:1 says “And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed”.
So by their logic, Australia, Alaska, Chile and Namibia were part of the Roman Empire?
It’s simplistic, shallow, hyper-literal exegesis that is at the root of this basket-casery. No consideration is given to the possibility that Christ was shown an abstract idea in His mind or simply literally shown just the kingdoms around Judea.
No scholarship of how people in those days spoke is looked into. Like today, people then would use phrases like “everyone” to mean “everyone nearby” not “everyone on the planet”, with many otehr parallel examples possible.
So you’re not being a strict adherent to the Word with this nonsense; you’re being idiotic, foolish, rash, unscholarly, and ultimately, unbiblical.
@Jay: Interesting that you believe it is a SINGLE verse that Flat Earthers hang their figurative hat on. That couldn’t be further from the truth. I compiled this list awhile ago, and thought you’d like to read in the dozens of verses that support God’s creation the way it is. Let he who has eyes see, and ears hear.
Enjoy!
-Dad
God made it ABUNDANTLY clear that his Earthly creation was flat, fixed and never moving. Not sure ANY Round Earth believer can proffer a single argument against the Biblical pull quotes contained in this e-mail. I’ve broken down various verses into the following sub-categories to enhance the efficiency of the presentation.
1) Still Earth
2) Pillars of the Earth
3) Firmament Dome
4) Height/Depth/Length Width
5) Boundaries/Edges
6) Footstool
1) STILL EARTH
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1 Chronicles 16:30
30 Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.
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Psalm 93:1
1 The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and armed with strength; indeed, the world is established, firm and secure.
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Psalm 96:10
10 Say among the nations, “The LORD reigns.” The world is firmly established, it cannot be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity.
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Psalm 104:5
5 He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.
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Joshua 10: 12-14
12 On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to theLORD in the presence of Israel: “Sun, stand still over Gibeon, and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.” 13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on[b] its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. 14 There has never been a day like it before or since…
(My note): If it were the Earth rotating around the Sun it would make no sense for Joshua to command the Sun to stand still. Rather, that command would be given to the Earth.
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2) PLLARS OF THE EARTH
1 Samuel 2:8
8 He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor. For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; on them he has set the world.
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Job 9:6
6 He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.
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Job 38: 4-6
4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. 5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it? 6 On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone?
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Psalm 75:3
3 When the earth and all its people quake, it is I who hold its pillars firm
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2 Samuel 22:16
16 The valleys of the sea were exposed and the foundations of the earth laid bare at the rebuke of the LORD, at the blast of breath from his nostrils.
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Isaiah 48:13
13 My own hand laid the foundations of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together
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3) FIRMAMENT DOME
Genesis 1:6-8
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.”
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Isaiah 24:18
18 Whoever flees at the sound of terror will fall into a pit; whoever climbs out of the pit will be caught in a snare. The floodgates of the heavens are opened,the foundations of the earth shake.
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Isaiah 40:22
22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
(My note): A Circle and a Globe are two entirely different things. The Canopy/Tent metaphor represents the “Firmament.”
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Isaiah 44:24
24 “This is what the LORD says— your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself.
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Psalm 104:2-3
2 The LORD wraps himself in light as with a garment; he stretches out the heavens like a tent 3 and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters.
(My note): Another tent metaphor for the firmament. Also mentions the water that resides above the firmament here.
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4) HEIGHT/DEPTH/LENGTH/WIDTH
Job 11:8-9
8 They are higher than the heavens above—what can you do? They are deeper than the depths below—what can you know? 9 Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea
(My note): You can neither have these measurements when dealing with a sphere, nor with an expanding universe. Only with a Flat, stationary Plane.
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5) BOUNDARIES/EDGES
Job 26: 10
10 He marks out the horizon on the face of the waters for a boundary between light and darkness
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Job 28:24
24 for he views the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.
(My note): A Flat Earth has a boundary…the ends. A Globe does not.
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Job 37:3
3 He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth.
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Job 38: 12-13
12 “Have you ever given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place, 13 that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?
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Isaiah 11:12
12 He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the
four corners of the earth.
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Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.
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Revelation 7:1
1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.
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Proverbs 30:4
4 Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Whose hands have gathered up the wind? Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!
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Revelation 20:8
8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
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Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
(My note): Impossible to see ALL the kingdoms of the world from a single vantage point if standing on a globe.
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6)FOOTSTOOL
(My note): A Footstool is a flat, disc-like surface set atop 4 legs (pillars). NO Footstool would ever be confused to be a spherical, spinning and moving orb.
Isaiah 66:1
1 This is what the LORD says: “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?
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Matthew 5:34-35
34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King.
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Acts 7:49
49 “‘Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me? says the Lord. Or where will my resting place be?
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LOL
A fool proves another fool’s theory with a fairy tale
No kiddin’
At least he is putting his money where his mouth is, all you are doing is going off of someone else telling you it is round with no proof besides fake pictures and billions of dollars…the MATH DOES NOT work for a sphere, and you can calculate it yourself using NASA’a own math.
Again, you’re misinterpreting obvious metaphors as literal facts.
When Jesus called Himself the True Vine, does that mean he literally began yielding grapes from His Body?
When the Bible calls him “the Lamb” does that mean He is, in fact, a young sheep?
Or when it calles him “the Lion of the tribe of Judah”, is He a literal lion?
“Four corners of the earth” is a classic example of this kind of idiocy. When the earth casts its shadow on the moon during lunar eclipses it is curved, as per Isaiah 40:22 (the only verse in the Bible EXPLICTLY describing the earth’s shape).
Oh yeah, that’s right. “Four corners” versus Isaiah’s “circle”. Which is it? Come on, you hyper literalists! Make a call on it!
The sad fact is, you flat earthers are an utter disgrace to Christianity, bringing disrepute and shame to the name of the Lord through your unhinged fallacy. God will hold you to account for this damage, this wilful blindness, this utter madness.
@Jay
Interesting that you’re only argument is the “mis-interpretation” of metaphorical language from scripture. I offered up dozens of salient proof texts and you systematically sweep them all under the proverbial rug based on what? Your interpretation? When the Lord mentions that the Earth is “firmly established and cannot be moved” in Chronicles & Psalms how are you side-stepping those? Perhaps you’re arguing from a standpoint of emotion rather than logic as noted in your signoff (“we’re an utter disgrace” “bringing disrepute and shame to the name of the Lord”).
The only thing that you have offered to this discussion is a large soap box…be nice if you step down from it and stick to the facts. If not, that’s okay. You are free to do with these verses as you wish.
However, I do find it odd that you are so invested in a globe earth theory simply because you were told it was a globe first. I wonder if you grew up from birth being taught the world was flat how you’d react to someone who told you it was a globe? My guess, EXACTLY the same. You’ve been indoctrinated. Slide the scales off, and start seeking the truth…it will set you free.
Until then.
-Dad
silliness
OMG your ACTUALLY serious aren’t you???
Plz don’t vote or reproduce.
Revelation 20:8
8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth
So based on this, the earth is a flat square or rectangle I presume? Why do all the “flat earthers” show it as a circle?
You can’t fix stupid.
you didn’t read the scripture correctly.
it states
circle of the earth. is a circle a ball?
you can try multiple translations/versions as i did, they all say the same. Even you can walk around in a circle on this.
The Hebrew word rendered “circle” can also be rendered “globe”.
Go and study before you try to be smart.
Can’t reach the edge..Temperatures won’t allow it. Quite possibly because we were never meant to get there. The person who was committed to searching the Antarctic Ice wall was Admiral Byrd in 1958. Upon his return he had much to say regarding the vast size of the land (larger than the United States) and the abundance of resources there. http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czW0iRJuH1A
Before he could return, he “mysteriously” died and then the “Antarctic treaty of 1959” was signed by 12 leading nations of the world forbidding all non-military personnel from going there…
htt p://www.ats.aq/e/ats.htm
Yep…that makes sense to me.
At a bare minimum, if you believe the world is a spinning globe, Admiral Byrd’s untimely death, and this treaty forbidding anyone to return should ruffle your feathers and raise some antennaes…Or, you could just continue to believe the lie that has been propagated on all of us and somehow justify/defend this utter lack of transparency. The choice is (and continues to be) yours.
Let those with eyes see, and ears hear.
-Dad
yourdaddy… what about the over 50 books said to be missing from the Bible? What do they have to say and why were they taken out? Granted a few have been partly revealed.
Jim, it sounds like the guy is ALREADY over the edge, LOL.
Dude, you beat me to it. Canoe’s around the bend. A few bricks shy of a building. Missing a few yogurt raisins from his trail mix. All he’s gonna prove is that gravity exists. };^D
Stop making sense.
Bubbles in space. Van Allen radiation belt is actually the firmament above. The firmament under the sea was found in 1995 -1996; when scientists sent a underwater sub into a ocean trench and found a opening. In that opening water so cold and salty it is more dense than steel. So many more things as well if you care about truth above all. We live in a tent/tabernacle type set-up, a closed system. This isn’t a salvation issue necessarily it is a truth issue. Government and government has always lied to us to keep separating us from the truth of God and His creation. No outerspace, means no aliens, no evolution, ect. Jesus, God come in the flesh is Lord and the only way.
The only thing I know for sure is that Jesus died for us and was raised from the dead and those that accept that will get to be with Him forever.
Filling in the details at the edge.
In a warm water section of any Ocean that is near the edge, get your ship within 5 minutes drone flying time.
Charge up the battery and make sure the camera is working well and launch the drone for the edge.
In about 5 minutes we will have video of over the edge and if the drone is destroyed by not being able to come back, the loss is trivial.
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I’ll give him credit for being willing to put his life on the line to prove his beliefs. I have several dear friends who are FE believers. I’ve looked into their supporting evidence including Scripture and while I’m not convinced, I’m still open to the possibility. It is after all, God who created the Earth.
Good luck with the landing!
I’m with this this guy. I don’t believe in flat earth, but I can’t say I live on a ball either – I ain’t never seen it and I know I have been lied to on so many things from TPTB.
Fly Forrest ! Fly !
We’re told the Great pyramid was built in 10-30 or so years from “Experts”. The Great pyramid has been said to have almost 2.5 million blocks. The following calculations include quarrying, shaping, transporting and laying blocks into place at the great pyramid.
2.5 million blocks/ 20 years = 125,000 blocks/yr
125,000 blocks/365 days = about 342 blocks/day
342 blocks/24hrs = about 14 blocks per hour !!!
That’s bullsh!t with a capital BULLSH!T !
Truly is curious, dont think they had that many slaves
Darwin Award Candidate
Truly a group of stupid motherfuckers on this site.
FA, do you like MSM sites better? There’s a reason we come to sites like this one.
And wildly entertaining.
IMHO, this is rediculous. The earth is not flat. Look in a telescope at the planets, the sun, and moon are all like balls. Why would our planet be any different. This guy is lying. He isn’t going anywhere. Just a gimmick to sell his product, and make fools of anyone gullible enough to believe him.
The powers that Be would never have claimed our moon landing was the result of German scientific genius if it were not so. They want us to hate Germany, Germans, and white countries and white people.
We went to the moon. The earth is a sphere. I’m tired of psyops, fake news, and bs.
_ if you believe otherwise, fine. Last I heard, you are still free to believe whatever you want, with one exception. You are not free to disbelieve the official version of one event. Take a guess which event that is. Clue: there are six million martyrs.
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Your spelling is rediculous.
What an idiot
This should be quite entertaining. I’ll pony up for a ticket to watch this idiot blow himself up. Not everyday you get to see Darwin in action.
good one, and very true.
So basically what they’re saying is it’s kinda like an album it’s got two sides.
Well how about flipping it over cause I’m gettin tired of listening to this BS.
Nonetheless … Good luck to your Wiley coyote friend.
The man can count on two groups of people to pray for him:his family and all the people he borrowed money from to make the rocket.
Well………… to “Mad” Mike Hughes – ‘Bye’. ‘Cause you’re either going to back out or become toast. Either way – you’re about as dumb as a post.
Heartless, Hughes sounds like he might be like Gandhi or rrrr, LOL.
Everything else fed to the public is a lie. I remain unconvinced that we are living on a shitty ball.
Mother Nature’s way of weeding the gene pool. Sad, but true.
Flat? Then what is on the other side?
Saw this the other day –
The difference between Genius and stupidity –
There is a limit to Genius.
Earth is a miniature tetrahardon.
Flat in summer, round in fall, cubical in winter, and egg shaped in spring.
Your Daddy,
There is evidence that Admiral Byrd actually entered Inner Earth and quite possibly met with its occupants.
The Earth actually is hollow and has been proven to ring like a bell. Both the North and South Poles are vortices that lead to Inner Earth. During or after WW II, the Nazi’s were repelled by its occupants when they tried to enter.
This might explain why some of what Byrd wrote remains classified. Perhaps it explains his death, I don’t know.
As for the Earth being flat, if that WERE true, the flat earthers would have dug through already to reach the other side, and told us if it was flat like a ruler or on its edge
Of course, it’s not the shape of the earth that matters, but the size of the hearts of its inhabitants and if those hearts and wills are aligned with God’s through adherence to the Ten Commandments and Holy Love.
– the Lone Ranger
“I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.” – Jesus Christ
I was at the top of Telescope Peak in Death Valley NP a few months ago. That’s a little over 11,000 feet. A two hour drive from Amboy. I could see the curve of the Earth no problem, even though it wasn’t that clear.
But I’m sure this man would say “It’s a lie” while also refusing to climb to the top of Telescope Peak himself.
Oh where the hell is hcks when you need him.lol
Are we really saying the earth is flat.
Wow I can not believe people woukd actually swallow that. I’m not even gonna start listing how that’s just funny as shit.
I watched the guy who rode a balloon up to sky dive from space. It was very interesting and the earth didn’t look like a giant frisbee. His camera showed much of his descent. Also, he did not make a report on the earth looking different than what is currently believed by science; he certainly had plenty of time to make observations.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532531/Stunning-video-man-edge-space-skydiving-earth-looks-like-superhero-movie-real.html
http://www.iflscience.com/technology/57-year-old-man-skydives-stratosphere-breaking-baumgartner-s-record/
The joos must laugh their asses off when they see “White Nationalists” here proclaim a flat Earth and then use the joo bible BS to either prove or disprove it. I am so disappointed in the Whited race and the tards posting here are the reason why. Return to the Gods of our Folk, the Norse, Celtic and Saxon Gods if you want to be part of the solution to our problems. If you’re worshipping the jew-on-a-stick you ARE the problem…