Federal Judge Strikes Down Amnesty: “Obama’s Unilateral Action Violates Separation of Powers… is Unconstitutional”

by | Dec 18, 2014 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 99 comments

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    gavel-dollars-collinscenter-orgA federal judge for the Western District of Pennsylvania used a deportation decision to probe the constitutionality – or lack thereof – of President Obama’s executive order on amnesty, declaring it “unconstitutional.”

    How that ruling might impact other cases or the acceptability of Obama’s psuedo-law is unclear, however.

    While Texas and other states have already initiated lawsuits challenging the order, this is the first case to test how Obama’s unilateral immigration action would impact deportations and sentencing for illegal aliens unlawfully present in the United States.

    Judge Arthur J. Schwab wrote an opinion weighing whether Obama’s recent executive order is constitutional, and whether it factored into the decision to deport one Elionardo Juarez-Escobar, a 42-year old Honduran working for his brother’s landscaping business and  apprehended for driving while drunk after having been previously removed from the country and reentering. Schwab concluded:

    “President Obama’s unilateral legislative action violates the separation of powers provided for in the United States Constitution as well as the Take Care Clause, and therefore, is unconstitutional.”

    The Washington Times reported:

    A federal judge Tuesday ruled parts of President Obama’s deportation amnesty to be unconstitutional, with a scathing memo dismantling the White House’s legal reasoning and arguing that Mr. Obama tried to steal Congress’ lawmaking powers.

    The ruling doesn’t invalidate the policy immediately because it was part of a case over a single illegal immigrant’s deportation, but it could serve as a road map for other federal judges who are considering direct challenges to the president’s policy.

    Judge Arthur J. Schwab, sitting in the Western District of Pennsylvania, said Mr. Obama has some discretion in how to enforce laws, but by setting out a comprehensive system to grant tentative legal status to as many as 5 million illegal immigrants, the president has strayed into trying to write the laws, which is a power reserved for Congress.

    The executive decision to shield immigrants from deportation also has significant consequences as it applies to equal protection under the law, in the event that prosecution for some is delayed while others are prosecuted:

    The Court must examine whether this Executive Action is within the President’s executive authority, and whether it would unjustly and unequally impact this Defendant in light of this Court’s obligation to avoid sentencing disparities among defendants with similar records who have been found guilty of similar conduct.”

    In a telling clash over the separation of powers, the Obama Administration and others have argued that judges have no authority to review decisions made by the president – ironically as this federal judge has pointed out the rather obvious fact that President Obama has no authority to write laws with his pen.

    “The judge is clearly reaching way beyond the bounds of the case before him to engage in constitutional scrutiny of the executive action,” said Peter J. Spiro, a law professor at Temple University in Philadelphia.

    Schwab countered the idea that federal judge have no purview in his decision, arguing precedent on p. 13:

    Federal Courts can review the constitutionality of Executive Orders. In two instances, Federal Courts have found that specific Executive Orders were unconstitutional. Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579 (1952) (the United States Supreme Court found that President Truman’s Executive Order authorizing the Secretary of Commerce to control operation of the majority of the country’s steel mills was unconstitutional because President Truman acted without constitutional or statutory authority); Chamber of Commerce of U.S. v. Reich, 74 F.3d 1322 (D.C. Cir. 1996), rehearing denied, 83 F.3d 442 (D.C. Cir. 1996) (the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit found a 1995 Executive Order issued by President Clinton which prevented employers who were performing under federal contracts from hiring strike breakers, to be unlawful because it impermissibly prevented employers from hiring their chosen workers).”

    Schwab further argued that Obama’s justification for his unilateral action – that Congress had failed to act – was “arbitrary” and did not grant him authority to make laws:

    This proposition is arbitrary and does not negate the requirement that the November 20, 2014 Executive Action be lawfully within the President’s executive authority. It is not.”

    “In the framework of our Constitution, the President’s power to see that the laws are faithfully executed refutes the idea that he is to be a lawmaker. The Constitution limits his functions in the lawmaking process to the recommending of laws he thinks wise and the vetoing of laws he thinks badPerceived or actual Congressional inaction does not endow legislative power with the Executive.”

    The Obama appointee-headed Justice Department criticized the Bush-appointed judge’s decision as “unfounded and flatly wrong” while pro-immigrant groups, including the American Immigration Lawyers Association, claimed Schwab was overstepping his bounds. His critics were quick to point out his previous controversies and claims of impartiality.

    Nevertheless, the attempts to marginalize this decision and rest its merits on the reputation of the judge only serves to distract from the rather obvious and valid points he makes… namely that Obama is acting as a king, not a president, not a constitutional scholar and not legally. The emperor indeed has no clothes.

    It should be headlined that someone has called Obama on his unconstitutional actions; instead, prepare for this story to be marginalized and buried.

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      1. Sgt. Dale

        Computers back up!
        It took a Judge to say and to rule on this. All of us on this site knew it was the day Obullshit pulled it off in the dark of night. The god just said it was so it is, so he thinks. Time for him to go!

        Sgt.

        • FreeSlave

          Sgt. Dale is utterly right! Impeach and Remove Obola!!

          Biden as POTUS will be neutered when Obola is removed.

          To get there, remove Boehner as Speaker of the House!! That is the path forward to removing Obola, the Lawless Lawbreaker who thinks he’s above the law from the office of the President.

          • buttcrackofdoom

            thumb up!

            • OutWest

              This federal judge will knuckle under too
              when he finds out that obama’s federal
              authority trumps any others federal authority.
              Obviously the judge is ignorant of federal
              pecking order 101 ……

              • Kulafarmer

                They are all the same, its all a BS illusion for the sheeple now,
                Separation of powers, two party system, doesnt matter, its all BS
                Even the States or local governments are one in the same with the feds in most cases,
                I cant wait for their paychecks to bounce, will serve em right

                • BJ

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                  http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=lhlik2qYvZo&u=/watch%3Fv%3DTcxtBYptCUM%26feature%3Dem-uploademail

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                  • Sgt. Dale

                    BJ
                    Good post! If I was to set up something like this a ground set up would be the way to go. One thing he didn’t mention was what to do when you have to reroof the house?
                    Don’t forget that the tax right off end Dec 31. You have to be on line by then.
                    Sgt.

                    • Kulafarmer

                      I would do a separate setup as well, steel framed shed roof with the panels mounted on it, better than piling em on the house, for me i got the room and can always use more covered space.
                      Im not real keen on grid tie, will keep my hookup but will have it just for running my walk in, that way the house is on its own, my bill is running about 575-625/ month

                    • BJ

                      @Kula

                      $600 a month for electric….you gotta be shittin me!

                      GTFOOH….that had to be a typo or something

                    • sixpack

                      Several people should post the link and text of this article in every MSM comments section of every MSM article, even if it isn’t related.

                      Let’s see if the moderators/censors can keep up with that. If everyone took 30 minutes of their time, on one occasion, this could be posted hundreds of times in the mainstream.

                      People will see it.

                • Izzy

                  That’s may thought to. When they figure out that their 401k/retirement is gone been stole by the same people they work for. Do you think they will work till pay day to see if they get a check or just a thank you for your time? This goes for all guberment employees fire/police/judge
                  everyone.And to top off the day NO ONE will feel sorry for them and might even be mad.. Don’t ya think??

            • Kulafarmer

              Ditto

          • FreeSlave

            This post is about Obama and his unconstitutional amnesty. Well, look at what he’s done with Cuba too. And the following is protection for KY Mom and others who are consistently subjected to incessant screaming from the NWO Banshees about a false Left/Right paradigm.

            “Just as its patron Venezuela hit the rocks, Cuba got a last-minute rescue from none other than President Obama, who announced a Santa Claus-like package of wish-list goodies for the Castro brothers. Why?

            In many ways, President Obama’s announced plan to normalize relations with Cuba, lift the embargo, extend trade credits and remove Cuba from the state sponsors of terror list is about on par with the rest of his foreign policy.

            It was done by executive order without consulting Congress, just like last month’s decision to temporarily legalize 5 million illegal immigrants.”

            So what does life in Cuba look like under Leftism?

            “Marxists have ruled Cuba for more than a half-century now. Fidel Castro, Argentine guerrilla Che Guevara, and their 26th of July Movement forced Fulgencio Batista from power in 1959 and replaced his standard-issue authoritarian regime with a Communist one. The revolutionaries promised liberal democracy, but Castro secured absolute power and flattened the country with a Marxist-Leninist battering ram. The objectives were total equality and the abolition of money; the methods were total surveillance and political prisons. The state slogan, then and now, is “socialism or death.”

            […]Cuba has a maximum wage—$20 a month for almost every job in the country. (Professionals such as doctors and lawyers can make a whopping $10 extra a month.) Sure, Cubans get “free” health care and education, but as Cuban exile and Yale historian Carlos Eire says, “All slave owners need to keep their slaves healthy and ensure that they have the skills to perform their tasks.”

            […]The police expend extraordinary manpower ensuring that everyone required to live miserably at the bottom actually does live miserably at the bottom. Dissident blogger and author Yoani Sánchez describes the harassment sarcastically in her book Havana Real: “Buses are stopped in the middle of the street and bags inspected to see if we are carrying some cheese, a lobster, or some dangerous shrimp hidden among our personal belongings.” Perhaps the saddest symptom of Cuba’s state-enforced poverty is the prostitution epidemic—a problem the government officially denies and even forbids foreign journalists based in Havana to mention. Some Cuban prostitutes are professionals, but many are average women—wives, girlfriends, sisters, mothers—who solicit johns once or twice a year for a little extra money to make ends meet.

            […]Citizens who take public transportation to work—which includes almost everyone, since Cuba hardly has any cars—must wait in lines for up to two hours each way to get on a bus. And commuters must pay for their ride out of their $20 a month. At least commuter buses are cheap. By contrast, a one-way ticket to the other side of the island costs several months’ pay; a round-trip costs almost an annual salary.

            […]As for the free health care, patients have to bring their own medicine, their own bedsheets, and even their own iodine to the hospital. Most of these items are available only on the illegal black market, moreover, and must be paid for in hard currency—and sometimes they’re not available at all. Cuba has sent so many doctors abroad—especially to Venezuela, in exchange for oil—that the island is now facing a personnel shortage.

            […][A]lmost everyone in Havana lives in a Detroit-style wreck, with caved-in roofs, peeling paint, and doors hanging on their hinges at odd angles.

            […]Even things as simple as cooking oil and soap are black-market goods. Individuals who, by some illegal means or another, manage to acquire such desirables will stand on street corners and whisper “cooking oil” or “sugar” to passersby, and then sell the product on the sly out of their living room. If they’re caught, both sellers and buyers will be arrested, of course, but the authorities can’t put the entire country in jail. “Everyone cheats,” says Eire. “One must in order to survive.”

            ——-

            Yo! You NWO Jew Bankster Conspiracy Banshees! Shaddap about a false Left/Right paradigm, willya?

            Liberal Leftism Socialism Communism Marxism is SO MUCH worse than U.S. small government Judeo-Christian Constitutionalism.

            • JRS

              Ha, Ha, Ha…like things were any better under Batiste.

              Meyer Lansky and his ziomafia took over Havana and turned it into a pit of sin, much like Las Vegas, by bribing Batiste and his cohorts. Castro drove them out and wrecked the casinos. The ziomafia has been after him ever since by pushing for embargos and sanctions. That is the main reason for the poverty.

              You people and your US centric point of view are brainwashed by the constant USA, USA, USA you see on teevee.

              It may not be better under Castro, but it was a sugar cane plantation run by the US state department under Batiste.

            • sd mule

              So Slave,
              Your using Cuba, as an example, to show that there is a difference between the right/left political parties in America?? Cuba?? Seriously?? Cuba?? I have seen ZERO difference between the two political parties in America. Can’t seem to shake that programming, huh?

            • Pissed Off Granny

              FreeSlave:

              Are you EVEN suggesting in your post that we in America have SMALL government Judeo-Christian CONSTITUTIONALISM?

              Small government Christian Constitutionalism went out the window back in 1913.

              And at its inception American small government Constitutionalism never ever contained the words Judeo-Christian. That hyphenated word is an oxymoron.

              Don’t believe me, FS, then ask JQP. He will be glad to set you straight on the J-C issue.

              What were you smoking when you wrote your post?

              • Pissed Off Granny

                By the way, FreeSlave, ask Detroit and others, how that Judeo-Christian Constitutionalism is working out for them.

                All thos -isms you are talking about have invaded America and it wont be too much longer before Detroit will look like we were living large compared to what TPTB has in store for the poor old, tired, worn out taxpayer.

                Poking fun at truth tellers wont be funny much longer FreeSlave; enjoy it while it lasts……

              • Hunter

                F-Slave—

                Just so you know:

                ..using the term judeo-Christian in its ‘MODERN’ sense and adopting its constructs, is blasphemy!

                Here’s why:…

                1.> ..real Christians, believe in one “GOD” in three…aka, ..the Father, Son & Holy Spirit!

                2.> ..modern Judaism..denies the existence of the Son..and the Holy Spirit!

                ———————–

                Denial & slander of the Holy Spirit..is blasphemy…and ’tis the only sin chronicled in the bible…that is…unforgivable!

            • the renegade braveheart

              FreeSlave, excellent post. I can tell you really did your homework on Cuba. My wife was from a town called Madruga in Matanzas Province, only 30 miles from Havana. One of her uncles had an old sugar plantation near that town. When Castro’s thugs came to take it from him, he had already set the sugar cane fields on fire. They shot him for “counterrevolutionary activity.” I could tell you other horror stories my wife told me about her life under Castro but I’ll leave it at that. Until the Castro brothers are gone, there won’t be any real change in Cuba.

              • FreeSlave

                Thank you, Renegade.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Obama is an Idiot.. And Today Thursday Wall Street DOW Closes UP +419 points. Like WTF? Flee To Safety? Insanity? I hope it translates into people spending money and cheating jobs.

          • CameronD

            Man, would I love to see Boehner replaced by Trey Gowdy. Gowdy knows his stuff and isn’t afraid to say it.

        • buttcrackofdoom

          i’ll trade my functioning appendix, and ALL the m&m’s you can find under my couch cushions for a look at his face when he finally FALLS from the grace of the american sheeple.

        • BigB

          Saracasm on:

          Well this changes everything.

          Saracasm off

          BigB

        • wrong

          obama sucks donkey dick

          • OutWest

            Only if he can find a willing democratic donkey.
            No republican elephants for his discerning taste.

        • Smokey

          Just for the record, the judge did not strike down Obama’s amnesty plan, it merely stated as an aside that it was unconstitutional. That statement is not part of the ruling, just a legal aside, so the case doesn’t really mean much legally except it’s making headlines.

          There are about 20 other cases filed against the amnesty, that directly challenge the constitutionality, there will be some direct rulings on this in a few weeks, and then it will start to come together as the rulings are joined on appeal and cited by others.

          The White House will try and marginalize this case, but their time is short, once the next rulings start to come out, they are done.

          • CameronD

            Thank you for the clarification. I hope that they are done.

      2. buttcrackofdoom

        we ALL know, thanks to obamacare ruling, that this goes all the way to the supremes, and he’s got THEM in his pocket. they all kiss his ring, but does he HAVE to keep it in his back pocket?

      3. Hammerun

        Roberts will get his revenge when it hits Superior Court. This means nothing.

        • Pissed Off Granny

          Hammerun:

          You mean Roberts will tuck tail again?

      4. Azam1986

        This is all BS. The real problem is we let this happen. This should be cut and dry. #1 If you higher and illegal immigrant your business should be fined big. #2 They should not be able to get any welfare programs at all. If you do these two things they will stop coming. They will not be able to survive here. Right now to stop the flow of illegals just put the national guard on the border with rubber bullets. If you cross the line you get hit. Trust me they will turn back around. They can think of it as a warning shot. Other than that lets start deporting them. Get them all out of here. I have no remorse for mexico after the US soldier who was held captive there suffering from PTSD. But on another note i went through the immigration process for my wife and it is a messed up broken system that demands a lot of money and a lot of steps. So on that note the legal system should be reformed in some way to make it better and easier for people who want to come here legally and become a productive member society.

        • buttcrackofdoom

          thumb up!

        • Kulafarmer

          The fact that the feds are providing food, shelter, medical etc etc to these people is where i draw the line,
          I dont give a rats ass what they try to do to me i am done contributing,
          Its a small place where i live, you take my shit it will be ashes in less than a week.
          You come for me bring bags

          • Outlaw

            They just opened up a new resort, erm, I mean family detention center, for them just over the border in Texas. The biggest one to date. They said it will deter them from coming.

            • oicu812

              The “Amnesty E O” is but another of the NWO’s game plan.

              The only thing it will prompt in the short term is for more and more illegals to backpack into the detention centers.

              The word is out in Central America and Mexico. Free stuff, and free amnesty if you get in before they close the borders. They are packing their bag as we speak.

              The Syrian/Isis bunch are packing up their tents and making ready for free stuff in their Islamic/Sharia Free Zones here in the ussag. Look at these cities and states that already have Islamic Groups and potential zones in them already:

              Seattle WA
              LA,S. Fran.,San Diego,
              Santa Clara CA
              Chicago IL
              Herndon VA
              Raleigh & Charlotte NC
              Wash. DC
              Potomac & Laurel MD
              Tampa, Orlando,Boca
              Fort Lauderdale FL
              Dallas,Houston
              Arlington TX
              Boston MA
              Cleveland OH
              Detroit MI Denver CO

              These are a few of the thirty in all, that are known.
              When the new waves of Hispanics are thrown in the mix it will overwhelm the systems.

              Feliz Navidad, all you newcomers. We got EBT,Obola phones,cheap experimental drugs for your kiddies, and plenty of Fed Reserve owned housing for ya.
              If you can tuff it out a while on that, we will get the minimum wage increased to about 12 bucks an hour so you can buy new cars and trucks.

              City dwellers! It might be a good time, say….???…from January thru May/June next year, to pack up the possums and find a new den, away from the city limits.

              The vultures won’t be too choosy when the cash cow dries up next fall. They prefer white meat though.

              • FreeSlave

                Dow’s up almost 300 points today.

                • hammerhead

                  YEA , DOWS UP !
                  Must be everyone is workin again and the resession is over .
                  Or maybe the fed said interest rates will remain low.
                  I dont know.

              • hammerhead

                oicu812-
                Whatta ya think is gonna happen when the new wave of hispanics meet the muzzies ?
                I can tell ya those mexicans aint gonna wanna tolerate any of that muzzie shit .
                Talk about civil unrest !

                • oicu812

                  Well, hammerhead, you just never know. I guess it depends how well the muzzies keep to themselves and stay indoors. Mexicans/hispanics like it outdoors until it gets cold.

                  If time permits and the islamic zones get set up, there won’t be much problem until the suicide bombers start their shit in the cities. When innocent American children get killed, them muzzies will need their “no go”/ Sharia law zones; for their own freaking protection.

                  In many areas, especially California, the everyday Mexicans get along with most people well. I was suprised to see how well they get along with and intermix/marry with Asians. They sure throw some pretty mixed girls from those encounters. I saw a few in LA area I would have brought home to momma.

                  I doubt the hardcore catholic mexicans would blend to well with the strict regimen of the islamists. Mexicans are generally very protective and loyal about family. The muzzies have no problem killing one of their children for wearing makeup or acting American, etc.

                  Who was it said Islam is a religion of peace? I say they are/were a mofo liar.

                  Anyways, it will all come out in the wash. It just depends on how long this mess stays on the spin cycle, as to how clean or dirty it comes out.

                  • hammerhead

                    All i know is they dont get along so well in detroit.
                    sooo……

                    • hammerhead

                      Make that the suburb of Dearborn .
                      Muzzie hotspot , but lotsa cheap housing , and its kinda drawin a crowd .
                      Probably not the best crowd.

                  • White Fox

                    Half White and half Asian is my favorite combo, just about all the girls I’ve seen and known were beautiful.

                • Kulafarmer

                  Yea, ALLLLL that crap, drugs, gangs, whores and the popo want to crack down on constitutionalist,
                  They better be 100% comitted and not plan on going home is all i got to say,

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                When they open up Free Travel Cuba – How many Cubans will come here to visit and never leave, as they hide out in Miami with relatives they have not seen in 40+ years.

                • sixpack

                  Maybe that’s part of the plan. An alien doesn’t have to only be from Mexico to screw up the ballot box. Cubans and Mexicans have more in common than speaking spanish.

        • AMartinez no not that one!

          Couldn’t have said things better, thumbs up!

        • Azam1986

          I just take what has been done as a big slap in the face because we did everything the right and legal way and he wants to let illegals get a free ride. It just upsets us a lot.

          • Kulafarmer

            Amen

        • CameronD

          Amen.

      5. aljamo

        Evil rules and there aint no curbing it. Obama is a horrible joke called a president. He has zero credibility. Neither does Jeb or Hillary or anyone else that may be pushed out in front of us as a legitimate candidate. Can you actually believe a third Bush is being pushed to continue the status quo corruption? Or a second Clinton to protect past criminals in government. Both big time war mongers. Both NWO shills. Both a continuation of the decline of America. We’re offered no credible choice. Who could actually cast a vote for either side knowing the eventual outcome afterwards?

        • WWTI

          Jebs wife is Columbian. She got busted about 10 yrs back smuggling in $25,000 worth of undeclared Jewelry. Look it up. Every last one of them is a friggin criminal.

      6. Kulafarmer

        Domestic enemies

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Obama, Mr Constitutional Scholar Lawyer, seems not to know the constitution. So far Grade “F”

      7. Sierra Dave

        Yay for us! Now fire the bum.

      8. AC

        One unconstitutional Federal action down, thousands more to go.

      9. Johnnycomelately

        Since aljamo and others brought up the vote. A few articles ago I exposed the ‘vote’ for what it is and got no response. But I still think understanding the vote is imperative if we want to turn things around.
        When you or I cast a vote we are doing so much more than expressing our choice. We are ‘registering’ our ‘consent’ to be governed by the outcome of the vote. We are also reaffirming our ‘consent to be governed’ by those who require our vote. In short, we are enabling the PTB’s.
        You’ve heard it said “if you don’t vote you have no right to complain.” Balderdash!! Its the voter who has given up the right to complain for they gave their consent. The very action of casting a vote validates the government’s right to rule. If the ‘voter turnout numbers’ ever fall below 30% the government loses credibility on the world scene. Then when there is the inevitable uprising, the world see’s it as a natural conflict between the people and an unlawful government bent on oppression. In short, we get the high ground.
        It is time for “We The People”, the 5th branch of government, to stand up and let our voice to be heard. All the squeaky wheels of the special interest groups got heard and got their grease. We need to get ‘squeaky.
        God bless.

        • hammerhead

          JOHN , While i would agree (as a voter) with most of what you say, but it gets a little fuzzy when you throw out stuff like “loses credibility on the world scene” or
          “the world see’s it ..” .
          Whos gonna save you ? The UN ?
          Form your own special interest group and get noisy.
          I support a few that i feel represent my voice , but i am still not gonna give up my right to register my opinion at the ballot box.
          I vote for representation , not governance.

          • Johnnycomelately

            hammerhead, the vote is a choice, it cannot be taken away from you or anybody else. Choice is the root of all rights, no matter how low in the barrel you are driven to, no matter your despair, you will still have a choice. You will still have a yea or a nay in the end. This is why consent is so important. Consent is giving your choice away. Be wise in this.

            • hammerhead

              JOHN , Please explain why my consent is giving my choice away .
              By choosing , i give consent , not the other way around.

              When i choose a representative , that is my choice and i have not conceded anything , and i have not given anyone the right to govern or rule over me.
              I am not new to this aurgument , we are splitting hairs.

              I am very active locally and dont always participate nationaly its just a matter of choice.
              When all the choices are the same and none are worthy , then pass it by.
              But never give away your power to choose.

              • Johnnycomelately

                when a man makes a choice and later recants that choice he is free to make another choice. Not so with the vote. Once it is cast it is done as they say. What we are experiencing today is the direct effect of our choice being hijacked. This was done when the ‘left/right paradigm’ merged behind the scenes and became the ‘false left/right paradigm. From that point on it no longer mattered who got elected to what or where. The ‘agenda’ goes on and the ‘vote’ becomes void of all except implied consent.
                You asked why I used the phrase ‘lose credibility on the world scene.’ Do you not know that these people, the elite/rulers. live in their own world apart from us. They have their own lifestyles and social functions. In short, they aren’t all that much unlike us. Only in their world, public opinion rules the day. Not your or mine, but their opinion of each other and themselves. They fear losing face among their peers. They are populated with backbiters/stabbers, rumor mongers, and outright snakes. They can love each other but they cannot trust each other. I pity them.
                God bless.

              • FreeSlave

                Hammerhead,

                You get my vote as having the better, by far the better, of the argument.

                Thank you.

                • hammerhead

                  FS – We can pound our heads against the wall together !
                  Sometimes ya just gotta laugh …

                  • BJ

                    Don’t know which is worse……….a man being blinded by easy to see truth, or that the blind man would laugh about it. 🙁

            • BJ

              @Johnnycomelately,
              Please talk/post about this more often….you are doing very well…..excellent explanation of truth.

              • Johnnycomelately

                Thank you. I will try,
                God bless.

      10. 2 DOGS

        off topic: The WH is hitting Russia with more sanctions and they are also blaming North Korea for the Sony hack! We piss-off the Bear and Nk at the same time. War /EMP will come soon!

      11. ponomo

        O needs hanging—-not the kind of hanging that you use your clothes line for.

      12. Jim in Va.

        Johnycomelately; makes sense!

      13. colt triarii

        Only 22 United States Senators voted with Sen . Cruz that President Obama acted unconstitutionally on the Immigration Amnesty Executive order.

        Which is astonishing, as even President Obama admitted repeatedly, and publicly, he did not have constitutional authority to impose Amnesty by fiat. Then he did it anyway. And the Senate cowered.

        A Federal Court has now declared the obvious, President Obama acted unconstitutionally.

        If, as expected, and indeed, as they have already voted, the United States Senate does nothing, America is now a Post Constitutional Dictatorship.

      14. john

        Thank god Canada put a stop to that we call them temporary foreign workers. And our provincial and federal government has started going after the employers who abuse the system.srestaurans and hotel chains to great effect. Its simple greed when you layoff a local who needs that job to hire a TFW for 2$ less an hour.we as residence see it and start refusing our business. Write bad reviews and generally spread the word.most places can afford to pay a living wage.they just don’t want to. Its greed its selfish and its wrong.yes our government is sending many if them home.local businesses are crying they’ll have to close their doors or lay off. You know what let them if you won’t run a business then someone else will. To bad unions have fallen so far from grace the power was truly in the hands of the worker. So to solve the problem stop doing business with illegals. Don’t use their services if you see a business.business that uses illegal workers out them shame them start an online petition and let that business know that they have been outed for being greedy

      15. colt triarii

        The only Republicans voting with Cruz were Sens. Roy Blunt (Mo.), John Boozman (Ark.), Richard Burr (N.C.), Mike Crapo (Idaho), Deb Fischer (Neb.), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), John Hoeven (N.D.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Mike Johanns (Neb.), Mike Lee (Utah), Jerry Moran (Kan.), Rand Paul (Ky.), Rob Portman (Ohio), James Risch (Idaho), Pat Roberts (Kan.), Marco Rubio (Fla.), Tim Scott (S.C.), Jeff Sessions (Ala.), Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), Jon Thune (S.D.) and David Vitter (La.).

        • WWTI

          Can’t stand Rubio from Florida. He is a depressing Cuban whiner you would love to shove a dildo in his mouth, a black bag over his head and dump him in a canal. Ok I now feel better. Ha.

      16. pig killer

        barry obama is nothing but a zionist puppet.

        as are the clinton’s and bush’s.

        only by taken down the CFR – COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS (ny city and wash dc offices)and arresting it’s corrupt members for treason against the state and repeated violations of the u.s. constitution, will there ever be any true change in zio-amerika.

        then you gotta go after BILDERBURGER, TRI-LATERAL COMMISSION, FREEMASON SOCIETY, MORMONS, JESUITS, ZIONIST AIPAC, ETC ETC AND THEN THE CENTRAL BANKS…

        the corruption in zio-amerika runs all the way down to your local dog catcher. everyone has their hand in the zionist jew pie of corruption and bribes.

        pk

      17. Sinner

        Yawn….big deal. Won’t change a frigg’n thing. Big Business wants Obamacare and lots and lots of cheap labor, so they’ll get it from the Republacrats.

        Piss and moan if you want, it won’t change.

        Obama’s move is prompting more immigration from Central America, the U.N. is bringing 7,000 new Muslim Immigrants per month from Syria, and I’m betting the there will be a whole bunch “new” Americans coming from Cuba soon too.

        More destabilization moving to Crisis, ending in martial law/dictatorship.

        • Sgt. Dale

          Sinner:
          where did you get the Info on the 7,000 muslims? I would like to read more.
          Sgt.

          • Gone2hilo

            Sgt.,
            look on wnd dot com. Big article today about UN sending them in…Already approved!

            • Sgt. Dale

              G2
              thanks I read it tomorrow. Thanks
              Sgt.

      18. GMAFB

        Same shit, new day…

      19. Sinner

        Oops,I guess that I told the truth once too often about the Putin loving Libertarian trolls on this site. Don’t want to piss off the kooks or they just might stop posting here and cost Mac some $$$$$$.

        Too bad….sooooo sad

        • sixpack

          …want some cheese with that whine…?

      20. prepper2morow

        This means nothing, nothing changes business as usual for Obama.

      21. TEST

        Since when was Obungler doing something illegal, unconstitutional or just downright stupid a problem, at least for the left?

      22. Archivist

        We just had an M6.9 solar flare.

        Also, we should have bought Cuba in the late 1800s when we had the chance.

        • Smokey

          That, and taken Baja California in 1846 when we could have got it for nothing but the $15 million we paid for the rest of the Southwest. For some reason we didn’t want it.

          We’d have a lot less illegals today if they had to cross the Mojave Desert to get anywhere, instead of just step across in Tijuana.

      23. White Fox

        As he should, everybody needs to say No to O. He is a domestic enemy aiding and abetting an invasion of the US and is leaving the country open to attack by terrorists or a foreign power. He closed the TARS low altitude air defense system along the southern border on 3-15-13.

        It’s really evil, looking at the big picture. There’s been 57 million aborted, and now the Democrats (not that I like the establishment RINO Republicans) are making up for the missing Americans by importing millions of foreigners.

        • WWTI

          White Fox. All those aborted were not lives since they had no social security number assigned to them yet. Basically the same classification as illegals. So how many crack babies have you adopted so far? And financially supported?

          • Smokey

            So, how many have you adopted and supported, WWTI?

          • White Fox

            Human lives are not defined by an assigned number, citizenship is. Would be American lives then. No, an unborn baby is not the same as an illegal alien unless it can cross a border on its own illegally. If it’s in an illegal alien, then the term is anchor baby. It’s none of your business if I’ve adopted any, that’s not my point.

      24. Copperhead

        I don’t care if the DOW jumps 50,000 points when the rug is pulled out who is going to get the cream at the top! As for me investing in the stock market is a very dumb move. The top thieves who own the exchange will get it all in the middle of the night and the next morning 0% for the common man. Like the song says “take the money and run”.

        MTCFMF!!//RIP America.

      25. possee

        Screw all this shit

        Today I called in sick to work..

        Receptionist asked my reason for calling in sick..

        My answer..

        Anal blindness..

        She retorted angrily”what the hell is that excuse?”

        My answer..

        ‘I don’t see my ass coming to work’

        possee

        • WWTI

          Funny..

      26. Ideas Time

        i wish that more people understood the fraud.

      27. Ideas Time

        Every think you thought was real is a fraud.

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