“Extreme Carnage in Junk Bonds Markets” Ahead of Federal Reserve Policy Meeting

by | Dec 10, 2015 | Commodities, Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 23 comments

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    This article was written by Michael Snyder and originally published at his Economic Collapse Blog.

    Editor’s Comment: It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings. No disrespect to Janet Yellen, but she is running the whole show, and has the power to decide when it all ends. Things have a tendency to rise and fall on the word of the Fed. And right now, the economy is hanging on pins and needles for word of a rate increase, or clear signals that QE3 will truly become QE infinity. The cheap credit issued by the Fed since 2008 has predictably build up a number of bubbles, and they are poised to come crashing down if financial policies don’t handle them with pins and needles.

    Mexico and Puerto Rico are just two of the most obvious locales who stand to be completely destroyed by a rate hike, which will in turn place a call on their heavy debts, with which they are already at the brink of disaster. The power of a central bank to expand the money supply, and then contract it on command is its power to squeeze the economy, and watch the insiders pick up the pieces at a fire sale. Trump may well be correct that the Fed is trying to avert economic disaster until Obama’s successor takes office, or at least wins election, so that the problem has be dumped in someone else’s lap. Either way, the mayhem and destruction ahead is clearly visible; an alternative path is not as sharply in focus. Get ready, it looks rocky ahead.

    Guess What Happened The Last Time Junk Bonds Started Crashing Like This? Hint: Think 2008

    by Michael Snyder

    The extreme carnage that we are witnessing in the junk bond market right now is one of the clearest signals yet that a major U.S. stock market crash is imminent.  For those that are not familiar with “junk bonds”, please don’t get put off by the name.  They aren’t really “junk”.  They simply have a higher risk and thus a higher return than other bonds of the same type.  And yesterday, I explained why I watch them so closely.  If stocks are going to crash, you would expect to see a junk bond crash first.  This happened in 2008, and it is happening again right now.  On Monday, a high yield bond ETF known as JNK crashed through the psychologically important 35.00 barrier for the very first time since the last financial crisis.  On Tuesday, high yield bonds had their worst day in three months, and JNK plummeted all the way down to 34.44.  When I saw this I was absolutely stunned.  This is precisely the kind of junk bond crash that I have been anticipating that we would soon witness.

    Normally, stocks and junk bonds track one another very closely, but just like before the 2008 crash, they have become decoupled in recent months.  Anyone that even has an elementary understanding of the financial world knows that this cannot continue indefinitely.  And when they start converging once again, the movement could be quite violent.

    When I chose to use the word “carnage” to open this article, I was not exaggerating what is going on in the junk bond market one bit.  On Tuesday evening, Jeffrey Gundlach used the exact same word to describe what is happening…

    Jeffrey Gundlach, the widely followed investor who runs DoubleLine Capital, said on a webcast on Tuesday that the junk bond market has come under severe selling pressure ahead of the Federal Reserve’s policy meeting next week.

    We are looking at real carnage in the junk bond market,” Gundlach said. Gundlach also said it was too early to buy high-yield junk bonds and energy debt securities. “I don’t like things when they go down every single day.”

    Sometimes a chart can be extremely helpful in understanding what is going on.  The following chart was posted by Zero Hedge on Tuesday, and it shows that yields on the riskiest junk bonds are heading into the stratosphere…

    High Yield Debt - from Zero Hedge

    And for those that are not familiar, it is important to note that when yields go up, bond prices go down.  So the chart above is what a “crash” looks like.

    Another “leading indicator” that I watch is the behavior of Dow Transports.

    Dow Transports started crashing before the Dow Jones Industrial Average did back in August, and now it is happening again

    Dow Transports are in reverse. Down over 3% today, the biggest drop since the Black Monday collapse, Trannies are now below the lows of the Bullard bounce from October 2014 and down a shocking 16% in 2015. This would be the first four-quarters-in-a-row drop in Transports since 1994 and the worst year since 2008…

    In addition, we are also seeing trouble signs erupt at major financial institutions just like we did during the run up to the 2008 crash.  For example, I have been concerned about Morgan Stanley for quite a while, and on Tuesday we learned that they have just laid off more than a thousand workers

    Struggling Morgan Stanley slashed 1,200 jobs around the world in recent days, a person familiar with the matter told CNNMoney.

    The cuts were broad-based and eliminated 25% of the positions within the fixed income and commodities businesses, the person said. Those divisions are grappling with tumbling trading revenue and shrinking fees.

    Morgan Stanley also eliminated about 730 back-office jobs like human-resources and IT positions.

    Virtually all of the things that we would expect to see just prior to a 2008-style stock market crash are happening right now.

    If just two or three leading indicators were flashing red, we could have a really good debate about what they might mean.

    But the fact that virtually all of the numbers are screaming a warning at us should mean that the debate is over.  Anyone with an open mind should be able to very clearly see what is coming next.

    Very quickly, let me give you just 10 signs that indicate that we are right on the precipice of a major recession and a very substantial financial downturn…

    1. Global GDP growth has gone negative for the first time since 2009.

    2. Corporate earnings growth has turned negative.

    3. S&P 500 net profit margins are steeply declining.  According to Tony Sagami, “since 1973, there has been only one 60 bps decline in S&P 500 net profit margin that didn’t lead to a recession.”

    4. In October, U.S. imports of goods declined by 6.6 percent on a year over year basis.

    5. In October, U.S. exports of goods declined by 10.4 percent on a year over year basis.

    6. U.S. manufacturing is contracting at the fastest pace that we have seen since the last recession.

    7. Corporate debt defaults have risen to the highest level that we have seen since the last recession.

    8. Credit card numbers that were recently released show that holiday sales have gone negative for the first time since the last recession.

    9. The velocity of money in the United States has dropped to the lowest level ever recorded.

    10. Of the 93 largest stock market indexes in the entire world, 47 of them (slightly more than half) have already plunged at least 10 percent year to date.

    Just like in 2008, other global financial markets are imploding ahead of a U.S. collapse.

    On Tuesday, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was down another 162 points, but we are still within 1000 points of the market peak that was set earlier this year.  We are still in far better shape than most of the rest of the world, but that will soon change.

    I can’t think of a single leading indicator that is telling us that everything is going to be okay.  All of the numbers are pointing to major trouble ahead.  So I hope that you are being smart and doing what you can to get prepared while there is still time.

    beginning-of-the-end-snyderMichael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years.

    Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream

    If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.


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      1. Reading between the lines I’m assuming the likely outcome is leading towards deflation?

        • 9. The velocity of money in the United States has dropped to the lowest level ever recorded.

          WTF is velocity of money?

          How fast you can flush money down the toilet?

          • Velocity of money is how fast it changes hands, basically. Higher the velocity, the more business and spending going on. Lower, more savings , less spending.

      2. Junk bonds are called “junk” bonds because they are extremely high risk and sensible people stay away from them.

        Don’t put money you can’t afford to lose there anymore than you would put money you can’t afford to lose in a slot machine.

        (your odds might actually be better with the slot machine in the long term)

      3. Another Snyder article? YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN!

        • ignore michael at your peril, my friend….it’s coming SOON, and every day it doesn’t/hasn’t happened, is just going to make the end result SO much worse. THIS financial crisis will be SO MUCH worse than the others, because there will be nothing the FED can DO about it. Don’t lose heart brave, it’s coming SOON!

      4. Wait a cotton pickin minute. How many times did I hear from the Libs during Obama’s reign that it was Bush’s fault? So if the economy collapses, why can’t the next prez say it was Obama’s fault?

        • because the PROOF is in the pudding. it WAS bush’s fault, and now it’s OBAMMY’S(and STILL congress) fault, because he did NOTHING to fix the crisis, created by the FED/CONGRESS policies forced(happily/willingly) on the banks….we got a BOUGHT CONGRESS(and OTHERS).sooo many treasonous sons o biches…they have brought our country to it’s knees.

      5. Hard times…they are acomin….

      6. Hey Brave, , I think what’s about to happen is a possible dirreah..reacition from the bulldike Yellen publicly again..rhue must believe that rothchikd bankers cancel red necks and veterans and cops what the phuck to do in our state. Its not a wonder why Bernanke is busy swimming in and under ground spa in one of the local NY DUMBS..


        Onward to the calapse.. Shtf has no commented..

      7. Are we there yet.
        Are we there yet.
        Are we there yet.

        When they close the banks. Then I will worry about it.
        There again, Maybe Not.

        • when you HEAR the bank is closed, it’s already too late!

      8. Same old SHIT just a different day. Only a hand full of people knows when it will all collapse, not one day before. Good gravy everybody knows the signs are there, this is getting to be a waste time reading the same old damn thing. Day after day, month after month the same shit, it will happen when it happens.

      9. Presently I have not experienced any missed meal hunger pains. Ain’t planning to neither. For starters, so far I’ve put six deer in the freezer in the last two weeks (couple of button bucks and rest medium sized doe.) Season don’t end ’til after first week of January. “The fun stops when the hammer drops”. Then the work begins.

      10. Tonight I’m gonna party like it’s 1929.


        • I’m gonna wear my sunglasses tonight.

        • I’M partyin’ like it’s 1941…..’bout december 5th…….

      11. If the article came from anyone but Snyder, I would be much more concerned.

      12. So the question im asking is how long until the big one? Can some one give me a time frame? Weeks or months?

        • in a word…..hellnonobodycangiveyouatime,yuhidjit! they aint gonna ring no bell….didn’tcha’ READ the article/ANY of michaels articles for the last YEAR(or two or three)??? fer cripessakes, consider yourselves lucky you’re not like SOME of the people that USED to be able to read shtfplan, that are now homeless!!!! it’s a slow-motion train-wreck, and it started LONG ago….wonder how many that used to read and comment here are walking the streets now…consider how lucky you are to have been given SO much warning to get prepared, and how much MORE you know now than you did one, two, three years ago, by reading these articles….i KNOW i’ve learned a bunch, and STILL learn every week that goes by, getting more time to prep…thanks to mac, and ALL of you that post USEFUL comments here that help us be ready for whatever comes our way….it’s all about MATH,…and like gravity, math is LAW….that can’t be dicked with forever.

        • MK,
          I’m going to take a line from a famous and one of my favorite movies to describe 2016. WE ARE GOING TO NEED A BIGGER BOAT.

      13. like the song says, wake me up when it’s over.

        John, the velocity of money is just like it says. If I buy something from you, & you go and spend that dollar somewhere else, then that person goes and buys something, and so forth. When velocity slows, it means people aren’t spending but instead siting on that money. It is a good way of deciphering what’s going on with the average person (tax slave).

      14. If things like this were caused on purpose, how would things be different from the way they look right now?

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