Democrat Voters Confused: “I Didn’t Realize I Would Be The One Who Was Going to Pay For It Personally”

by | Oct 7, 2013 | Headline News | 361 comments

confusedBack in 2008, when then-candidate Obama promised Joe the Plumber and the rest of America that he intended to spread the wealth around, most democrat and liberal voters embraced the notion of wealth redistribution under the guise of equality. A universal health care plan, that would be free for all Americans, was the promise from the candidate of hope and change.

Tens of millions of Americans jumped on the bandwagon waving their flags, fainting at his appearances, and fawning over his every word.

None ever thought about where the money would come from for all this new found wealth he promised to bestow upon them.

But those who understand that socialism, communism and governance by the collective are failed experiments, warned where that money would come from. It would be taken by force from the toils of the middle class, and it’d impoverish them in the process.

Now the myrmidons who once vehemently supported the policies of President Barack Obama without question are coming to the realization that when Obama spoke about spreading the wealth he actually meant their wealth too!

Cindy Vinson is one such supporter. This month, like many Americans who have health insurance through their employer or private insurers, Vinson got an unwanted awakening to the reality of government sponsored wealth confiscation and redistribution:

Cindy Vinson and Tom Waschura are big believers in the Affordable Care Act. They vote independent and are proud to say they helped elect and re-elect President Barack Obama.

Yet, like many other Bay Area residents who pay for their own medical insurance, they were floored last week when they opened their bills: Their policies were being replaced with pricier plans that conform to all the requirements of the new health care law.

Vinson, of San Jose, will pay $1,800 more a year for an individual policy, while Waschura, of Portola Valley, will cough up almost $10,000 more for insurance for his family of four.

“I was laughing at Boehner — until the mail came today,” Waschura said, referring to House Speaker John Boehner, who is leading the Republican charge to defund Obamacare.

“I really don’t like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family’s pocket each year, that’s otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy.”

Both Vinson and Waschura have adjusted gross incomes greater than four times the federal poverty level — the cutoff for a tax credit. And while both said they anticipated their rates would go up, they didn’t realize they would rise so much.

“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

Prior the passage of Obamacare Congressional switchboards lit up with 99 out of 100 Americans urging their representatives to throw the legislation out.

They didn’t listen. They passed the bill without even reading it. In fact, they didn’t even make it public until a few hours before the vote and by then it was too late.

For people like Mr. Washcura and Ms. Vinson it must have been pretty funny to see Republicans, Libertarians, and anti-establishment extremists getting frustrated and angered.

They must have looked on with glee and a sense of victory.

You’re not laughing anymore are you, Ms. Vinson?

Now that Ms. Vinson and Mr. Washcura know they are the ones footing the bill to provide free health care to the “less fortunate” out of their life savings and retirement accounts, they’re very quickly coming to the realization that they’ve been bamboozled by the very person who promised them hope, change, free housing, free gas, free phones, free medicine and a host of other government-issued services.

Socialism is an awesome idea, isn’t it?

Until it’s you who has to foot the bill.

Ms. Vinson wanted hard working Americans to feel the pain, to give up their life’s work for equal wealth distribution, and she voted to force these mandates on unwilling Americans at the barrel of a gun.

Who’s in front of the barrel now, Ms. Vinson?

You, and the rest of the 50 million people who elected Barack Obama to not one, but two terms, deserve the pain that’s coming.

You asked for it. Now bask in it.

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    1. Rodster

      You don’t have to pay for any of it. It’s all FREE !


      Cloward and Piven

      • Wallimiyama

        Democrat Voter and Confused…

        Isn’t that redundant??

        • DRD5508

          Math wasn’t their best subject. Nor reasearching history and learning from it. Now will these people start to listen when others say/prove Obama isn’t American?

          I hope they have learned that the constitution is there to even protect their right to be ignorant.

          • Anonymous

            The Lifeboat Hour – Similar

            • OutWest

              Laughing out your ass, were ya Vinny……
              Paybacks are hell, ain’t they bitch

              • DRD5508

                A lot of these libs are entering the fight too late.
                But you know, an angry lib is still a sheeple that’ll still believe a liar (the gov’t) because they want to.

                • InsanityISContagious

                  Yep, they’ll flibber and they’ll flubber as long as they think something is “free” since you are “paying” for it and not them, nor anybody like them. Do you know the common denominator amongst PARTY-LINE Democrats? Totally unable to operate without that ring in their noses.

              • durango kidd

                Socialism for the poor. Fascism for the rich. Another Shit Sandwich for the middle class to subsidize them both.

                Engage your employees or be impoverished by them. 🙂

                • hammerhead

                  KIDD – you said all that needs to be said.
                  “Socialism for the poor. Fascism for the rich.”

                • Wilson

                  “Socialism works only until you run out of other people’s money.” Margaret Thatcher

                • Kevin2


                  We’re in agreement. Fascism controls the system at the top. That part of the wealth that they leave for the masses is distributed under socialism. The power elite in essence tax the middle class to pay for the poor so the poor don’t revolt against them.

                  Wealthy is not as narrowly defined as us commoners would envision. That educated professional is not rich just well off. They get clipped hard too.

              • Paranoid

                Anyone know abou the 3.6?% tax on real estate that was scheduled to go into effect this january? Is it just residential is it still scheduled? It could be a big game changer in the real estate market.

              • kevin mark bauer

                As I remember it, Obama wanted to tax the rich to pay for Health Care…it was the Republicans that blocked him…the rich never want to pay their fair share it seems.

                • scawarren

                  You know that really doesn’t matter at this point because Obama is the one that signed the damn thing in to law; he should have vetoed the bill!

                • TrotterOtter

                  “FAIR SHARE”? No man is entitled to another man’s labor. Period. Sheepish Weasels like you are why we are in such a mess.

                • PeteinMO

                  Here is your big chance Kevin, get ready! I am rich and I would like to know… What is my fair share? Tell you what, to make it easy to calculate just give me a percentage of my annual income.

              • lower40

                im so happy i could shit my pants ,there truly is a God i have seen the the saying come true you reep what you sow ,obama has shoved his fist up the ass of his most loyal servents ,and there pissed because he didnt use any lube or whisper i love you in there ear ,to those who voted for him ,you need to feel the pain ,thats just a small part of what your passing along to the next generation

          • Leonard M. Urban

            It’s not really their fault. None of this was ever discussed on “Dancing with the Stars”, the Kardashians never once brought it up, and so far as I can tell, neither Justin Bieber, Kanye West or Lady Gaga ever sang a single song about it. How could these people possibly known what they were getting into if it wasn’t ever covered on their Ipods or favorite TV shows?

          • Anonymous

            he is american we cloned him. . .doesnt sound so crazy any more does it

        • possee

          Well Mac

          Isn’t that your quote on the Sheeple?

          Wake the flock up..!

          or as aptly put..

          “you can’t fix stupid”

          we here already have obamacare..known as romneycare here in mass..

          death by a thousand cuts

          we were the first for this botched surgical procedure

          and thank you so much justice roberts..

          may you rot in hell..


          • Piper Michael

            Yup possee,

            A tax too far.

            Now, the sweet words on the tongue, grow bitter in the belly.

            It seems, if memory serves… that the original revolution was concerning the use of the King’s money and taxes paid in that money. A money that was very difficult to come by, and something about a 3% tax on tea… and even then, it took the kings soldiers coming for the guns… at Lexington and Concord.

            History may not repeat, but it probably will rhyme…

        • Makati1

          No, it is also typical of the Republicans. Both have not yet grasped the FACT that there are no “parties’ in government unless you call the corporate elite a party.

          You no longer have any say in your so called government. Try to buck them and find out that they have built a jail cell just for you and you paid for it. Americans are still asleep and when they wake up , they will be in titanium steel handcuffs.

          Less than 10% of Americans have passports, and most of those who do have never used them except to go to Canada or maybe a nice European tourist enclave. They have not seen the real world awaiting their downfall and cheering it on.

          • otnot

            Sorry for the off subject.

            Has anyone heard about the million truckers and veterans heading to Washington this Friday?

            • Nationcrying

              Sure have; helping organize it. If you can’t go to D.C. to protest with them, support them by being on overpasses with signs or flying a flag at your house, etc. etc.. Can donate food – go to Overpasses for Impeachment.

            • Leonard M. Urban

              Have you heard the National Guard will be closing the highways to force the truckers to go around DC?

        • j Stuart

          I’m laughing at them. I hope they end up living in their cars for this stupidity. We told them.

          • lower40


            i wouldnt matter if they were living in there car they wouldnt even realize that it was there folly that got them there ,they have no humility ,it would be somthing like this “oh whoe is me what did i ever do to deserve this”

            • Donald

              Pretty sure it is George Bush’s fault!

        • MasterBlaster

          What should we the thinking public expect of these MORONS !!!!

      • Anonymous

        The Lifeboat Hour – Similar to The Lifeboat Hour

        An original mix of music with madness; laughter with loss, skills with sorrow, community with calamity, love with grief, and joy in the moment.

        • Anonymous

          The Lifeboat Hour – Similar to The Lifeboat Hour

          An original mix of music with madness; laughter with loss, skills with sorrow, community with calamity, love with grief, and joy

          • NMBC


            It’s the lyrics from a song by AC DC. 🙂

            • NMBC

              Well, here we are one mess after another that politicians are UNABLE to resolve, has NOT been fixed yet and NEVER WILL.

              The fed places their people in charge, let them screw things up and then bail them out. Then the whole cycle starts all over again.

              Politicians CAN’T even handle a shop to sell stamps (Post Office); now bankers and politicians want to START another business to RUN people’s lives WITH NO MONEY!!! 🙁

              • NMBC

                Democrats call it “Affordable” Healthcare because:

                – It’s NOT FREE !! 🙁
                – Make it into law and force people to buy it.
                – have to buy the so-called “AFFORDABLE healthcare” through a 3rd designated party (AARP)

                .. AARP = Gets Paid + Commission

                Obama’s said America has the oldest democracy in the world, but people are forced to buy and do things because of endless (frivolous) laws; and citizens are FORCED to borrow money 🙁 for something they don’t want and can’t afford.

                • NMBC

                  Bankers have trillions of dollars and can open any type of businesses which they have done (such as Hollywood, insurance, banking, gun manufacturing, etc…)

                  And they can have their own people (Jacob Lew, Schulmer, Janet Yellen ….) running the so-called “affordable healthcare” and can afford to bail them out as well; however, American people CAN’T.


                  If the new health care program is affordable & successful, as Democrats demand it, they certainly can do it outside the system.

                  Yes, certainly the Fed can afford the so-called “affordable healthcare program” outside the system instead of forcing the U.S., CAPITALISM INTO SOCIALISM.


                  It appears all the Tea party leaders are ALL FOR RAISING THE DEBT CEILING since they’re so quiet and offer NO objections. 🙁

                • NMBC

                  “ The fact that we’re here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. 🙁 Leadership means ‘The buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit, dealing with the debt ceiling.

                  Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here’s why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we will spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation & veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

                  And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on. Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in American’s priorities. ”

                  Senator Barack Obama, Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt – March/16/2006

                • AHMLOVINIT

                  We’re now in the days of the Condor…They’re coming for what’s left of your life…We’re returning to the days of the Hobo…

                  Roger Miller: Trailer for sale or rent
                  Rooms to let fifty cents
                  No phone no pool no pets
                  I ain’t got no cigarettes
                  Ah but, two hours of pushing broom
                  Buys a eight by twelve four bit room
                  I’m a man of means by no means
                  King of the road

      • Man on the inside

        All I can say at this point to my Democrate freinds is Bawooohahahahahahaha….. How ya liking it now….

      • JustMe

        The stupid suckers will pay for their trip to the gulag, too 😉

        • durango kidd

          The Red, White, & Blue FEMA bus is a free ride too! 🙂

          • Glacialhills

            Around here there are red white and blue walmart shuttle busses. Are those the busses you are talking about?LOL… I do believe that those are the FEMA camp busses just waiting for the order in disguise. And the sheep will still, until they are offloaded and led behind the wire, firmly believe they are going on a shopping trip.

        • Tomas

          In reading the comments most are firmly on the side of glee that these libtards are reaping what they sow. Problem is, we are being caught up in the same price gouging too. I got my new insurance rates yesterday, 251% increase. Are the f’ing insane? Told the wife that I am sorry, we will just not be having anymore health insurance as we cannot afford that. I checked the exchanges and I’m not eligible because my employer offers healthcare, but in looking at the kaiser foundation calculator, my exchange price would be….. $11k/yr. and I’d qualify for a $4k subsidy (aka transfer payment from some poor slob), putting the cost right near where my new bill would be without going through the exchange. So, the question is: What part of affordable is at play here? Seems this would shift $4k of someones tax dollars to… where exactly? of course to even make this argument, you have to set aside the fact that health care costs are about 5 times what the ought to be, which makes this argument along the lines of who gets to screw who, and how hard.

          All along I’ve called ACA the medical industry profit guarantee act of 2010, mipga for short (catchy, huh?). Guess Nancy was right, we did have to pass it to see what’s in it. The proof of DC’s lie is now apparent to all who are paying attention, or even paying for or signing up for insurance. Suppose they will roll over or just say no? I’m thinking a lot of folks will say no, because they have no choice. Obama just brought the economy to a screeching halt, and the asshole doesnt even know it. Now I have to choose: college for kid, or health care. Was looking to remodel house, on hold now due to these fuckers in DC with their hands reaching deep in my pockets.

      • Daisy's Uncle

        FREE – pucking retard exception eternity

      • Euro

        Welcome to Europe.

      • Stephanie S

        It doesn’t matter if they have to pay. These Bay Area libs (redundant) will mail their payment in a sustainable recycled envelope and walk to the mailbox to save on burning fuel…problem solved and they feel good again.

      • Reynaldo

        What is it with all the people in this country thinking they have a right to free shit at someone else’s expense? No one has a right to free health care, or free anything at someone else’s expense unless that someone else agreed to give it to them. When your parents bring you into this world, it is their job to take care of you, not mine. Period!! If they fall down on the job, or you let yourself become destitute, deal with it or starve and die. Not even God said life was fair. The world is a cruel and tough place to live in. That’s the way it’s supposed to be, always was, and always will be. The alternative is living in a collectivist gulag with no rights, no privacy, and no self-determination. Apparently, that’s what millions in this country want just so they can hitch a free ride on the backs of the rest of us.

    2. Satori

      Economic Collapse and the Debt Ceiling: The 4th Turning is Here


      The authors accurately predict in 1996 that one of the indicators of modern America’s Fourth Turning will be:

      “An impasse over the federal budget reaches a stalemate. The president and Congress both refuse to back down, triggering a near-total government shutdown. The president declares emergency powers. Congress rescinds his authority. Dollar and bond prices plummet. The president threatens to stop Social Security checks. Congress refuses to raise the debt ceiling. Default looms. Wall Street panics.”


      IRRELEVANT at this point

      we’ve got BIGGER problems

      the book
      The Fourth Turning is amazingly predictive
      read it !

      • Gonetoolong

        The only problem with this analysis is that Congress is bluffing and will eventually increase the ceiling. These are just tremors before a real standoff. Both sides have prob already even talked behind closed doors how it will go down. However, one day, there will be no more borrow/print availabe to the US. We all know that.

      • leeholsen

        that is a great book, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT !

        • maddog


          I quote the book all the time. Just posted several predictions from there last week. The scariest part of the book is the reference to the current hippie generation that is in charge will completely destroy our country unless 13 gen individuals can somehow quell their utopian ideologies. I do not see any quelling of the Zen people happening. They will destroy it all to prevent the truth of the complete failure of their ideas to be exposed. The most destructive generation in history WILL destroy the world. God help us all.

          I see you have 2 thumbs down. They usually come from the Zen people. Never do they expose themselves. Unlike the greatest generation who I miss terribly, can’t wait till the Zennies are gone.

          • maddog

            From the forth turning for our time in history:

            “History offers even more sobering warnings: Armed confrontation usually occurs around the climax of Crisis. If there is confrontation, it is likely to lead to war. This could be any kind of war – class war, sectional war, war against global anarchists or terrorists, or superpower war. If there is war, it is likely to culminate in total war, fought until the losing side has been rendered nil – its will broken, territory taken and leaders captured.” – See more at:

      • possee


        Looks like I best get some reading done..



    3. Socrates

      Democracy: 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%. Our founding fathers are walking away from their graves, face palmed, muttering “How can Americans be so stupid?”

    4. Npgh

      You voted for Obama…now you own it! Nothing but a bunch of brsts.

      • sixpack

        I just got a look at the design of the new hundred dollar bill—sure looks like Franklin is pretty pissed…

        • Slvrizgold

          Hundred dollar bills are the new twenty. You know, enough to get some gas and something to eat.

      • Leonard M. Urban

        The founding fathers didn’t establish a democracy for this very reason. We have a constitutional republic with DEMICRATIC ELECTIONS. When I was a kid, we were taught this fact in school, though I understand that today, kids are taught that it IS a democracy, and a majority of Kardashian fans can call your congressman and convince him to vote away your rights…

    5. Miguel D'Anconia

      It looks like the morons that thought they could benefit from the money stolen from others are getting what they deserve, good and hard! Ha ha!!!

    6. Eisenkreuz

      Exactly what we all knew was coming. They never will learn.

    7. Unreconstructed Southron

      Had a naive moron at work tell me last year how much we needed government healthcare. Told him he was crazy and he’d eat those words one day (soon).

      Last week we got a letter stating our insurance premiums were going up across the board. I asked him if he was happy now.
      He was upset about the money and said he didn’t remember telling me that we needed obamascare.

      Here’s what some may not already know: these people are so stupid that we’re not even going to get the small satisfaction of saying “I told you so.” They’re completely oblivious to history or reality.

      It’s over.

      • Joebalaya

        You AMERICANS who think this way are all idiots…
        You will NEVER EVER understand that as long as you have ‘For Profit’ Health Care you will ALWAYS pay INSANE premiums and have massive corruption to boot… You are the ONLY and I will repeat this for you TWITS that don’t understand this,… you are the ONLY Industrialized Country in the Free World that does NOT have a Government Run or Subsidized Health Care system of some kind.

        I constantly hear the word ‘Socialism’ or ‘socialist’ when anyone mentions ‘Universal Health Care’ and that is a Freakin’ Hoot since just about EVERY SINGLE service provided to the Public is a ‘Social Program’ (Parks, Swimming Pools, Roads, Libraries, Schools, Insurance and so forth and so on….). Smarten up and stop paying for Health Care and living your life without worry. Oh and NO, your Health Care is definitely NOT the BEST in the World and is not even close. It’s merely a Myth (or False American Exceptional-ism) perpetrated by those who intend to keep Health Care “PRIVATE”, thus keeping you paying high premiums for the rest of your lives….

        For the record I pay exactly ZERO dollars for my Health Care (Family of 4). Life is Good and Worry Free as far as that is concerned 🙂

    8. wrong


      • OutWest

        …..our prepper ranks are about to grow

        • jayster

          Let’s hope they can dance.

          • SmokinOkie

            Eastbound And Down…. Lets Get This Rodeo Started

            We were gonna host free line dance lessons for the libs at my place this Saturday, but that’s been rescheduled. I’m heading to Laurel, MD. First time in my life I ever asked for a load there. But it seems like a good staging area for the little parade coming up this weekend. If y’all see a guy in a brown Stetson screaming “NOT ONE MORE INCH!” an the jackboots drag him away, that’ll be me!
            Truck full of fuel…check
            Pocket Constitution(including 2nd Ammendment)….check
            Ted Nugent and Hank Jr posters plastered on side….check
            Lawyer on speed dial….check
            Looks like it’s time to Cowboy Up!!!

            • Merree

              I listened to an interview with a trucker and what you must put up with from the government just to do your job. You have my full sympathy.

              I’m showing my support by not buying anything on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Keep us informed on how it goes.

            • Pissed Off Granny


              Will be watching for your posts this coming weekend. Can hardly wait for someone that is there to tell us the truth about what is going one.

              Stay safe and thanks………..

            • pissinwiththewind

              Keep the turbo whining, Smokin’.
              Stick to the DC Beltway.
              They don’t like the BIG trucks on Pennsylvania Avenue unless they are pullin boxcars with rows of shackles on the walls.

              Made the mistake of a wrong turn with a parking lot in tow, way back in 1997. I noticed everything began to look like a rat hole as I drove inside the Beltway, but it really turned to shit when i turned onto Pennsylvania Ave. Couldn’t get away from there fast enough.
              Found a wide spot off the road just before getting back on the Beltway, and took a few minutes to run into a Micky-Ds across the street for a burger in a bag.

              The place was packed and i noticed that I was the only Caucasian in the place, and then; I spotted a greasy headed, acne faced, dirty white boy working in the back. He looked like he had been “bobbing for fries in the deep fryer”.

              Hell no I don’t want that in a value meal……gone….


              PS. Oak, if you would, please latch down on the air horn a few times for me as you round the Belt. Appreciate you!

    9. Tactical

      OMG this is just beyond sadness. The libs are stupid and free loaders and that’s the known fact but c’mon…this one is just beyond imagination. Now I know why Dictators will rise to power. All is needed an uneducated / stupid majority portion of the society and some SOB scums in minority and you get what we have today in the USA.

      • leeholsen

        2nd that.

        i would like to laugh at them, but we are all in the same obamacare boat.

        unfortunately, there’s just too many people that just go along with whatever sounds good without one thought of the consequences. the US is in for a decade long depression imo. all the past 5 yrs did was make things worse when reality comes a knocking.

        • Straight. No Chaser.

          leeholsen says:” we are all in the same obamacare boat”

          No Lee, we are not. I WILL NOT COMPLY!

      • PenCRNA

        Unfortunately, in this country finding a stupid person is easier than shooting a fish in a barrel.

    10. laeagle

      The Shit Has Hit The Fan! The chickens have come home to roost! Watch them squeal as the screws begin to turn!

      Unfortunately, we have all become more vulnerable as a result of the stealthily passed ObamaCare and the loss of insurance coverage, no matter where you are in the ‘prepping’ spectrum.

      I trust everyone reading this is healthy because bad times have arrived unless a renewed Congress can turn things around and postpone the implementation of the ACA. It does not take long to run out of savings in a health crisis without insurance coverage.

      • sixpack

        I’ll be okay as long as I don’t get some bio-engineered death bug.

        • Anonymous

          I actually hope for the bioengineered death bug.

          My nieces and nephews will need the bullet.

    11. Pavan

      Don’t take too much pleasure in seeing Liberal voters paying the price for policies they supported. They will still vote for Democrats in the next election. You can’t teach an old dog or a Liberal new tricks. It’s much like Lucy pulling the football on Charlie Brown for the 50th time. The next time Charlie will believe Lucy and try to kick it again.

    12. Hammerun

      It looks like the 51% is going to find out the hard way, how much Vaseline costs and how much they’re going need. Looks like a barrel of it to me.. Enjoy YOU paying for it too!!!

      • BadAmerican

        True enough my friend.

        Time for the fence sitters to stand up and be counted, or bent over and mounted.

        Standing Tall


      • jimbow

        our Gov. will not use Vaseline (that made from oil)instead the use blood will not cost as much and already there.

      • Hammerun

        People like Cindy and Tom deserve everything they get. Every bit of it. The California mantra has been, support the liberal policies the funds will magically appear from somewhere. This goofy democratic California pie in the sky agenda has been coming on hard since 1990.
        Don’t think I’m someone on the outside rattling about California, not so. I live in southern cal and we see this shit legislation spew out of Sacramento on a daily basis.
        The good thing here is that screaming liberals like Cindy and Tom that openly ranted for Obama just found out, about Obama and what he has In store for them and others. You’ll be used for my policies and after you’ve served my purpose you’ll be kicked in a pit along with the others. That’s a socialistic tactic from a long time back, their just to stupid or over medicated to see it. I’ll bet they see it now!!
        If this thing gets on fire they will just scale it back 50% satisfying people like Cindy and Tom and still fucking the rest, those with no voice. The democrats will look at as a 50% gain! they’ll get the rest later. California has a nasty little habit of getting little pieces at a time. Getting a few dollars here end a few more over there until you at some point wondering what the hell is going on. We don’t have new tax legislation here, we have FEES now. The latest being a lumber FEE, 1%. The democrats couldn’t possibly get rid of prop 13, This state would riot. So they introduced a 1% lumber fee! That’s 1% on a new home! see how these people work? That’s 1% on any lumber you buy at Home Depot, this is no shit either!
        I haven’t found it but I have heard that in buried in Obamacare somewhere that there is going to be a 3.5or a 3.7% real estate fee on home sales. Shit that’s like adding another fucking real estate agent. Wait till they find out about this little ditty.
        Over the edge leftist Liberians are always eager to pass and support agendas as long as they won’t pay for it.
        The absolute funny fucking thing here is, the democrats finally fucked them too!!!
        Welcome to the real world you leftist bitches!!!!
        My guess there is going to be a big change in the political demographics in Sacramento come 2014. That ruff-shad democratic super majority will be a thing of the past. People might wake up and be a little more selective about how they vote into office, now that it’s getting into THEIR pockets.
        So sad, to bad, everybody cry a tear for them, BOO fucking HOO!!!!

    13. y99

      “The infantile dream state of the mass man (Collectivist) is so unrealistic that he never thinks to ask who is paying for this paradise. The balancing of accounts is left to a higher political or social authority, which welcomes the task, for its power is thereby increased; and the more power it has, the weaker and more helpless the individual becomes.”
      CG Jung

      These people, the 50 million that responded to this narcissistic Marxist like Pavlov’s dogs have no pride or self-worth, they’re second-handers, leeches who attach themselves to a host in order to make themselves relevant, a sick part of them somehow believes that there life and work don’t belong to them, that they found success by accident and not by hard work, that they are undeserving of their own toil.

      But two cells have awoken and now they must defend their own stupidity or wake up to the doom they’ve brought upon us.

      • yourmotherwaswrong

        y99 says:

        The infantile dream state of the mass man (Collectivist) is so unrealistic that he never thinks to ask who is paying for this paradise. The balancing of accounts is left to a higher political or social authority, which welcomes the task, for its power is thereby increased; and the more power it has, the weaker and more helpless the individual becomes.”
        CG Jung

        If you support Statism (the state), you support “the balancing of accounts left to a higher political or social authority.” And thus you welcome its effects: A “weaker and more helpless individual.”

        If you support the State, you have no room to criticize others who also support the State. You both support “the balancing of accounts left to a higher political or social authority,” and a “weaker and more helpless individual.”

        You can talk shit about “Collectivists/Marxists” all you want 99, but I would advise a long look in the mirror before doing so; you may just find the reflection of a Fascist staring back at you.

        And that is an ugly mug indeed.

        • y99


          You respond with communist gibberish, but you can be forgiven for that, thanks for attempting to change reality and ignore the natural state of man which is to be free. Fascism (Nazism) from a political point of view is Statism.

          You miss the point that the state should not be in the business of balancing the accounts of individual citizen, which is the job of individual liberty. “All men are created equal,” but that does not mean equal outcomes.

          Question. How do you measure the health of a community?

          There’s only one correct answer.

          • REB

            Y99,Glad you responded to that rant of yomammas…I was reading that and wondering where he got that from what you stated….odd!

            • y99

              Thanks REB
              I believe it’s a troll using doublespeak in an attempt to convolute truth and reality.

            • yourmotherwaswrong

              REB says

              “I was reading that and wondering where he got that from what you stated.”

              Now it makes sense.

              You can’t debate an idiot. You’ll lose every time.

              • REB

                That’s right….loser!

          • yourmotherwaswrong

            y99 says:

            “You miss the point that the state should not be in the business of balancing the accounts of individual citizen, which is the job of individual liberty.”


            I didn’t miss the point 99. That’s exactly my point!!!

            How could it be you didn’t gleen that from my post?

            Is it subterfuge on your part, or are you just that stupid?

            The State should NOT be involved in anyones business unless it violates someone elses right to Life, Liberty or Property.

            Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Huh? Think, McFly! Think!

            Schizophrenia: A mental state characterized by the coexistence of contradictory or incompatible elements.

            • y99

              From yomomabewong

              “You can talk shit about “Collectivists/Marxists” all you want 99, but I would advise a long look in the mirror before doing so; you may just find the reflection of a Fascist staring back at you.”

              Yes I will talk shit about collectivists/Marxists, the communist ideology has debased man and individual rights more than any other in modern history, yet your comment supports it.

              Then you respond with more doublespeak based on your first comment and never attempt to answer my question

              “The State should NOT be involved in anyones business unless it violates someone elses right to Life, Liberty or Property.”

              Have fun with your friends.
              Multiple personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring identities or dissociated personality states that alternately control a person’s behavior, and is accompanied by memory impairment for important information not explained by ordinary forgetfulness.

        • Breathial

          Fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin; they vary only in their presentation.

          But by presenting fascism and communism as diametrically opposite ends of the spectrum, you fall into the false political spectrum con, so eloquently explained by Nelson Hultberg, back in 2005.

          Here’s the link:

          With this knowledge, you’ll finally be able to speak more intelligently, without the necessity to resort to psychobabble to make yourself appear coherent.

          • Straight - No Chaser

            Breathial says:: “Fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin”


            Ain’t that the truth.

            When a swat team kicks down your door, kills you dogs and has your wife & kids cowering in the corner so they can search your house due to an “anonymous tip” concerning something suspicious, the form of totalitarian government that sent them there is irrelevant.

            When the boot of government in on your neck, you don’t care if its the left boot or the right boot. . . you just want it off.

    14. Smokey

      Now they will spend the next few years trying to get the AHC Act ‘improved’, so it doesn’t cost them any money, just someone elses, like they intended all along.

      Watch for it, and use every opportunity to advise them that repeal is the only solution.

    15. Gonetoolong

      Rioting will happen whether the Dems or Repubs get into power at this point. If repubs win, they repeal Obamacare, then the masses of freeloaders are pissed because of the wonerful law that never got a fair shot at success. If Dems keep power, the ACA becomes fully implemented, the masses are pissed that it is a failure and it is not free. Either way now, we are eventually in for a shit storm at some point.

    16. Buzzfix

      Jee ya think DUMMIES! Wow the confusion and ignorance. I can hear it now, Dear leader Dear leader please don’t kill me! I voted for you!! I VOTED FOR YOU!!! Boof Boof (gun-fire) Dear leader says, Yeah motherf***** you voted for me alright but, I for got to tell you something…I’m Satan B******!! ROARRRRR!!!!! 😀

      • Mama Bear

        LOL. Now THAT is funny. Nice job with the sound effects. That’s hard to do in writing. 🙂

    17. aljamo

      I voted dim once, McGovern in 1972 against Nixon. After all these years of reading about those candidates, I believe he was the better choice. I have’nt voted for either party since. Part of the democratic party used to be anti-war and for the people. Not any more. Both parties are criminal psychopaths. Obamney healthcare is more fleecing of the gullible masses. There appears to be opposition from the repubs in government, all a charade to keep the people divided.

    18. Patriot One

      My sister was one of the nitwits that thought the same. Her private health insurance went from $890 a month to $1260 a month and they say NC plans are going to see some of the biggest increases in 2014. She really thought she was going to get Obamacare for free. Like I told her in 2008 even if she got Obamacare for free it would be coming out of my pocked.

      I’ve lost all respect for my sister because she thought she was getting something for nothing. I still love my family, I just don’t want to be around them. Their thought process is all fucked up. They actually think that getting government benefits doesn’t cost anything!!

      • y99

        Patriot One,

        I’m with you on this, I also lost a brother to this decease called 0bama and I wrote him off without much effort.

        I have little time for fools

        • maddog

          I,m with both you guys Patriot One & y99. And to think this is just one of their wacked ideas. The rest work out the same if you research them. Our country is sop screwed. Like others have said here, demoncats have no brain function above “hand me another joint bro”.

        • Slvrizgold

          You people really shouldn’t lose family members over politics. Hell, I’m one of the biggest truth and liberty people out there, and I have a few Obamatards in my family, although they are waking up… I tolerate them, they were raised on tell-lie-vision and force feed propaganda their whole lives, and not everyone figures it out, some take time. I would add, from my perspective, if you believe in EITHER Dumbocrats or Ripofflicans, you’re a retard in my book because it’s ALL A SHOW, and BOTH parties are sold out at the top and work for the same exact interests when you get down to it: Israel, wars, killing, economic slavery thru debt, Big Pharma, the Sickcare System, Big Oil, the military-industrial complex, and LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND ITS CRIMINAL RACKET AND ECONOMIC ENSLAVEMENT OF THE ENTIRE NATION THRU A PRIVATE BANKING CARTEL.

      • JRS

        Progressives and Keynesian economics go hand in hand. If the Treasury piggy bank is getting empty, all they need to do is tell Ben to “get busy” and he will fill it up.

        And this did work for a number of years. Money (labor) was pulled forward by the never ending supply of cheap oil. Cheap oil is gone and the energy piggy bank is getting empty.

        Politics can’t fix it. EVERYONE will have to tighten their belts.

        • Patriot One

          Thanks JRS, MD and Y99. The funny money worked for 40 years but it stopped working once we went over $10 Trillion in debt and God only knows how much in derivatives. There is not enough wealth or future earning in the world to cover it. Hence the only way out is global systemic financial collapse.

          Once that happens the open society, open boarders and new world order will be a foot note in history. The world will reboot and sovereigns will have their boarders locked tight. He who has the natural resources becomes the natural leader.

          Oh that’s US!!!

        • Glacialhills

          “EVERYONE will have to tighten their belts”.


          Funny, But I dont see the Lib or republican elites Tightening their belts, even a bit…in fact, they are looking more like 15 minutes after thanksgiving and are loosening them and unsnapping there pants to let their bloated egos and wallets expand.

          Only their poor constituents are gonna be tightening their belts, yet again, and will do so, blaming the”other side” for their ills. And in the end, will still lick the boots of their masters and ask for more.

          The poor of all races in this country are still nothing more than kept slaves…though now instead of picking cotton to enrich their masters, their labors mostly involve voting their masters into office for another term.Allowing the Masters instead to “pick” the working classes wallets.The Poor enrich the elites none the less as they have for thousands of years.

        • Larry Peterson

          You are a moron who is and will continue to be used.
          Nobody should be tightening their belts. All money was borrowed on our behalf, without our approval and distributed to the elites.
          For 50 years and did not use any government programs only constantly to be told that it’s my fault and I need to give more.
          It’s not my fault, I pulled my weight, I gave, I denied myself and my family.
          No more.
          Kiss my behind.


        Same here w/family. My Toosoon, Airheadzony seesters daughter is die-hard lib…love her but don’t talk against O to her.

        My car insurance went up $40/mo. I asked why of AARP rep(quit membership years ago..but Hartford Inc. always good to me)…MUCH less than Travelers via AMAC…ck it out. Anyways…I asked why up so much…was told because of increased medical costs in Oregon…I said… mean OBAMACARE…clerk wouldn’t admit it…I’m NOT lovin it…NEVER have I EVER voted for a stinkin lib…but surely miss the last true democrat…JFK…He paid with his life tho…

    19. Basstard

      I would be in favor of some of the people in Fema camps.

    20. maddog

      There is a book by Mike Savage called “liberalism is a mental disorder”. Here is another example of just how true that statement is. One good thing, when SHTF these people will no longer needing food, water or oxygen within days thank god.

    21. Anonymous

      My dog who licks his ass all day knew this was coming. And Dems have a shocked face?

    22. Anonymous

      No hope, but what a f*cking change this country is getting.

      Wonder how much longer till we see the R word erupt across this nation?

      B Aware, B Awake, B Alive

    23. slingshot

      Chic a boom. Chic a boom.
      Don’t you just love it.

    24. TnAndy

      I guess they figured the money was gonna just drop out of the sky.

      I’ve been saying all along don’t worry about Obamacare, it can’t work, the money doesn’t exist in the private wallets to pay for it, because if it DID exist, everybody would already have health insurance.

      The only thing that changed was it is now mandated. That didn’t add a penny to folks wallets, so WHERE THE HECK did anyone with half a brain think this was gonna come from ????

      It will take a year or two for folks to figure out this is just one great big tax increase packaged as health care.

      • Chantilly Lady

        Agree completely. We’re already borrowing 50 cents of every dollar we spend in this country, so where is this $$$ coming from. People are scraping by 5 years into tghe Obama Admin, he thinks people have the $$ to pay the premiums no less the penalty. The economy is going to crash next year under this. The Republicans might as well crash it now..

        • braveheart

          Howdy, Chantilly Lady. Be careful what you wish for, it just might happen. Watch Oct. 17 and let’s see if it passes by like any other day. that’s when the feds allegedly run out of money.

          • old guy

            Oct 17 is my birthday If the crash happens ill consider it the best birthday present ever.

            • Tactical

              An early Happy B-Day to you.

            • TnRick

              October 11-13 perhaps…

      • John W.

        The fools believed him when he said they would save three thousand percent on their premiums. Only way that could happen is if you were getting money given to you. Morons ate it up. We have an infantile population and how that will ever change is a mystery. They have been instupidated past repair. Meanwhile both parties are hard at work on an amnesty. Nothing in the normal list of remedies can stop these assholes.

      • Gregory8

        It’s all shits and giggles until the bar tab comes. Some folks are waking up to the fact that their insurance is going to go through the roof to pay for newly insured. It was coming one way or the other. In 2008 the Denver Post ran article just before the Democratic Convention there and it pointed out that Obama and Hillary both received large ‘contributions’ from the various elements of the health care industry. But surprisingly enough, so did their Republican rival, John McCain. They were all in the bag for this, so don’t go kidding yourselves that any of them would have opposed some form of national health care. Doesn’t anyone wonder why the best the Republicans can do is McCain and Romney in the last two elections. McCain is a nut job and only slightly less of a RINO than Romney. And Obama; a state senator from Illinois with 6 months as a U.S. Senator and no real world experience. We’re being spoon fed folks. As long as you keep voting in this phony ‘two party’ system, you’re going to continue to get a ‘screwing’. Vote third party or keep taking your beatings like a good slave. Excuses are for cowards!

    25. SoapDish

      No hope, but what a f*cking change this country is getting!

      I wonder how much longer till the R word takes hold across this nation of those that are awake?

      B aware, B awake, B Alive

      • SoapDish

        By the way, the anonymous is mine. Site didn’t recognize me. I’ve also been having no sound from youtube videos?

        B Aware, B awake, B Alive

        • sixpack

          sounds like you’ve been cut off, like a red-headed step child…LOL

        • 1 John 2:2

          Lately Youtube sound has been turned off. See the speaker symble with the X just click it and turn up the slider sound.

        • BadAmerican


          Check the video volume control, lower left side of video.

          The volume control shows an “x” when I open videos. Just move the slide to the right. Hope this helps.

          • SoapDish

            Thanks 1 John and BA for the info. Much appreciated!

    26. Please reply.

      Can someone on this site please tell me how could any rightminded person believe all the rubbish that has been put forth during all this time with these these phony elections. With its lies and delusion. It would be very appreciated. Thank you.

      • InsanityISContagious

        Because the human animal relies a great deal on “first impressions.” Think about how many people you have instantly liked or disliked because somebody else told you something good or bad about that person before you actually physically met that person. Example: If one of your friend’s told you that Janet, whom another friend is currently dating, is a “ho,” then you immediately believe that this MUST be true because you trust your friend and his opinion and so your behavior towards Janet, when finally meeting her, will most likely reflect your friend’s opinion, which he has convinced you to be the truth, even though, in reality, he’s just upset because she wouldn’t date him (and she is actually quite an upstanding girl).

        Same thing with politics: IF you take people who can’t think on their own or outside the box and they flip on the boob box (TV) and there is an announcer from a “respected, trusted” program stating, “Obama has raised millions from the dead, we must worship him”….well, there you go.

        So in summary, no “right-minded, free-thinking” person would believe the rubbish, and as “birds of a feather flock together,” the folks who frequent this website tend to be right-minded, free-thinking people.

      • JRS

        Please reply…If you do like I do and wear your tin foil hat, it will usually filter out the mind control rays being directed at you by the shape-shifter lizard people who are on the teevee. If you still have any of those old Bazooka Joe x-ray specs, you can try them too. Some say you can see right through bullshit with them…but I don’t think they work…Just funnin’

        • maddog

          What? Here I thought my x-raybans were real all this time. Hope my tin hat is still working.

    27. JoeRepublic

      Look on the bright side. They get a free Dronebomba phone with ever rectal exam and splintered 2×4 removal procedure. Yeah, just about party time and it’s BYOB. And that last B and for Booze, got it?

    28. California Resident

      “Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

      Liberal / Progressive fools. Only now, at the end, do they fully understand the damage they caused.

      • Lurker

        You are wrong!!!

        Most of the progressive types I have spoken to recently still don’t realize that this is what they supported. They just cannot make the correlation between the outcome and their own actions.

        (Spare the rod and spoil the child. Great now we have a horde of zombies that don’t understand about consequences.)

        If only it was just going to apply to those that voted for it then the rest of us might have stood a chance.

      • Mark

        Actually, California, only a few will actually do a public mea culpa the way those two did. Most of them are egotists and narcissists who would rather die than admit they have always been wrong. Most liberals will be perfectly happy to haul us all over the cliff and onto the rocks at the bottom, and that is exactly where we are all heading, sooner now rather than later.

    29. braveheart

      To Vinson and Wachura I say, WELCOME TO REALITY, COMMIE IDIOTS! They even had the nerve to believe other working people should give up more of their paychecks in taxes to cover healthcare insurance for those who cannot afford it. TO HELL WITH BOTH OF THEM! TO HELL WITH THE IDEA OF SPREADING THE WEALTH AROUND! I don’t have any f#$%in sympathy for either one of them, they along with 50,000,000 other idiots chose Obama. they made their own bed so now they need to lay their asses on it.

      • sixpack

        “Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

        I’m smiling on the inside, for Karma is a BITCH.

        • anna

          Smile, Darlin’ (Ms. Vinson). You have just been leg humped by Karma.

          • Boss Hog

            Sounds like the Karma ran over her Dogma

        • AHMLOVINIT

          You’ll never see Vinson on the MSM…

    30. Say When

      Time to pay the piper Ms. Vinson, Mr Waschura. It kind of reminds me of a commercial on T.V. The gentleman needs the blue pill because he is having a little eretile disfunction.. Party, Party, Party…Then 4 hours later he still has his party on and has to go to the E.R. and explain to the pretty little nurse behind the counter that he has a problem with the medicine. I’m sure the cure for OblaBlacare is going to be just as painful.
      Man up you commie progressives. Going to be a fun party till you run out of everybody else’s money. You bunch of commie zombie misfits should be the first to starve when the SHTF. Enjoy you stupid nitwits. You voted for this idiot, now enjoy it. Just don’t even try to come up to my bunker when your lib commie asses are starving to death…HaHa, LOL….

      • slingshot

        It’s George Bush’s Fault.

      • braveheart

        Say When, the Obama supporters just don’t know how to handle it when they discover they got to pay for it just like any of us do. I can’t find any sympathy for any of them. they supported Obamacare, now they have it, but they don’t want any of THEIR wealth getting spread around like the BOY said he was going to do back in 2008. LIBERALS ARE ‘PROGRESSIVELY’ RETARDED!

        • Say When

          Amen and Amen. I do appreciate reading your posts. I am continuing to prep as fast as possible. Things could be getting ugly in the next couple weeks. Just finished putting in the hand pump on the well, canning is finished for the season, picked up a 1 bottom plow, disk and cultivator for the little diesel tractor, plenty of 308 and 556, setting back and waiting and watching in the bunker. God bless all and get prepped. May not end well for the unprepared.

          • braveheart

            Say When, good morning and thank you. Oct. 17 and after is the key time frame to watch. I’m hoping it will just pass by like any other day, but I’m not holding my breath.

        • AHMLOVINIT

          Yeppers…Liberals have a progressively regressive retarded gene…They were born with it me theenks…

      • Straight - No Chaser

        Say when says: “I’m sure the cure for OblaBlacare is going to be just as painful.”

        Er, no, its going to be worse, due to the immutable law of government which is: “If you think the problems are bad, just wait till you see our solutions.”

        I am reminded of what Milton Friedman famously said. “If the government ran the Sahara desert, in 5 years we would be out of sand.”

        • AHMLOVINIT

          So…if we run out of sand…what do we do with all those CAMELS? lol

          OH NO…CAMELBURGERS….OMG…$%^&*()

    31. Chantilly Lady

      The Republicans might as well hold their position and let the US default. Bring the “reset” on now and let the chips fall where they may…

      • Colonel Cooley

        I’m with you on that! The sooner it falls, the sooner we can get back to the Constitution.

        • Cowdoc

          It will be hell on earth if the music stops, but most of us are as ready as we will ever be. Bring it on. I don’t have any fantasy about surviving, but I have seen and heard enough.

          • maddog

            Wow, lots of people are coming around. Used to be if we talked about reset the sheeple would get scared and say we were crazy because life would be so hard. Guess everyone is starting to see the reset is coming and the longer we wait the harder it will be. I’m still praying for the EMP, lets get this party over. This time leave no commie’s.

    32. Jim (Another Jim)

      I am so sick and tired of arguing with stupid, ignorant people who are so in love with Obama that they cant see the facts right in front of their faces. They make any excuse they can to justify him. I was arguing with a guy about if Obamacare is so great, why is it mandatory or pay a fine. His response was well car insurance is mandatory. I walked away before I hit him square in the mouth. Others will use the supreme court thing. The supreme court belongs to him, how is that fair. The sheeple in this country deserve what they get. I hate being like this because I do like to help people, but I guess I cant fix stupid. I love this story, talking about getting what you deserve. Keep prepping my brothers and sisters. I feel the vibrations of the steam train as it is racing towards us!!! Molon Labe!!!

    33. BadAmerican

      American Revolution II

      Time to “drop a deuce” people.

      ….drop a deuce….BA.

      • yental

        Precisely BA. Time to forcefully arrest, imprison, and speedily “try” all of these A-holes. Can you imagine how many “congress critter “canaries” will start “singing” to save their own worthless ass!

        The TRUTH will be delivered in “mountains of information” as each criminal attempts to position his/herself in the best possible LIGHT.

        Coup de etat for the REPUBLIC. These “congress wussies” are applauding the “capitol pig farm” for executing an unarmed woman to keep THEM safe. They are scared…and THEY damn well should be.

        That isn’t “thunder” you hear in the distance Obimbo and Crimegrass…it is the thunderous sound of engines, tires, and feet COMING FOR ALL OF YOU! Unleash the “cracken” (aka military) and take this ridiculous, lying, bought off, POS gooberment DOWN!

        Are we there yet? You bet your ass we are!

        • JayJay

          That’s not thunder–that’s motors revving on those trucker’s rigs headed to DC.

          • JayJay

            that should be truckers’

          • AHMLOVINIT

            Git your motors running…
            Head out on the hiway…
            Searchin for adventure…
            And any O-BOT to come our way…

    34. braveheart

      “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” The late Prime Minister of Britain, Margaret Thatcher.

    35. Pissed Off Granny


      For anyone who missed this on the last subject: truckers-for-the-constitution-plan-to-slow-dc-beltway-arrest-congressmen

      They are taking donations for fuel:

      Ride for the constitution
      Donation Coordinator: tzedah at

      Our chance here at shtf to put our money where our mouth is.
      I sent my donation; please send yours.

      Remember, they have ask us to not do any shopping or spending any money this week end. Time to show TPTB that we support those brave truckers.


      • Pissed Off Granny

        To all you patriots that use Facebook:

        On September 20 Facebook removed the truckers facebook page “Truckers to Shut Down America” which had accumulated 86,000 likes within days of its launch.

        Political opponents attacked the “Truckers to Shut Down America” site within days and exploited a little known (to the public) feature on Facebook, UTube, and Twitter called ‘community standard flagging’ which allowed them to instantly shut down the account on these social media platforms.

        An administrator on the page offended someone by saying GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!

        While the trucking group has made numerous attempts to appeal Facebook’s decision the page has remained unpublished.

        Now the group is planning a special delivery day to Facebook’s corporate headquarters in Menlo Park, California on the same day as the Washington DC Convoy.

        • SoapDish

          I say, lets really show America what a true shut down looks like!!!!!

          Quit buying useless sh*t. If no one has realize, we have the true power!

          B Aware, B Awake, B Alive

        • Mama Bear

          Huff Po has an article on the Ride that completely misrepresents what the truckers are angry about: they say it is in protest of the gov’t shut down. I cannot believe how brazen this anti-patriot propaganda is–just lying right in people’s faces.

          Meanwhile the comments are an equal mix of idiots deeply confused by “why come they want to arrest Pelosi and Feinstein over the gubmint shutdown?” and fascists self-pleasuring over the thought of the jackbooted thugs arresting the truckers over code violations and impounding their trucks.

          I will post link below.

    36. A.Martinez no not that one!

      The bad thing is the Libs and Demo voters will just quit working altogether. And expect the producers to pay for everything.

    37. ed

      So what would happen if you signed up and then couldn’t afford the payments?
      Are they going to fine someone who has no money?
      Go ahead and comply then don’t pay. It worked for a bunch of people who bought houses they couldn’t afford. You’ll have the paperwork to prove you got insurance. You just won’t have it all year.
      Does anyone believe H&R Block will be able to prove it. No. And the gubment will be too overwhelmed to look at everyone. Screw them.

      • sixpack

        How about you just have some balls and DO NOT COMPLY, instead of sneaking around, hoping to find a crack big enough to fall through.

        • ed

          Really you’ve probably already signed up and are on here making yourself sound real big and bad. What an idiot comment.
          But I’m glad you’re the one who said that and not someone with common sense.
          So let me explain. If there aren’t enough payers there isn’t enough money. Plus you get to stick your finger in the eye of big insurance which most of the time is big banks. Of course this means you would have to think outside the box.
          Most of the people on hereare law abiding people and will comply even if it means eating their stored food.
          Others will take the penalty and buff out chests until the following year and the cost of new policies will have gone to the moon. Try to look further out than your computer screen before you comment. Peace.

          • Archivist

            I’m not signing up or paying the penalty either.

          • sixpack

            Actually, I haven’t even tried to visit the web site, much less sign up for anything. I fail to see how going along to get along, THEN making yourself look like a loser by not following through on your word is a good thing.

            I keep my word, even if it is to someone who doesn’t know the meaning of INTEGRITY. Sorry Mr. ed (with a little e).

            • ed

              You only say that because I resemble a horse. If you get my drift.
              And actually I won’t be complying. No need to. But others may be looking for alternate means to resist. Plus mark my words more people are going to fail making payments than will resist for patriotic reasons.

              • sixpack

                “more people are going to fail making payments than will resist for patriotic reasons”

                On that point, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

              • AHMLOVINIT

                Quit horsing around Ed…lol

                I’m not failing to pay…and it WAS for patriotic reasons…Joined the Navy in ’65…One thing I did correct!!! Vet medical insurance complies with afc…

                OK OK OK..gotta admit ONE reason for joining was to escape…a woman…lol

        • John W.

          Since they are using the IRS for enforcement how can you get out of it short of dropping out. Even then someday you will need medical assistance and they will nail you then.

          • sixpack

            Once the IRS puts a lien on your taxes for a debt, it follows you if you EVER make enough to get a refund. I know people that have been hounded like this, some for more than 30 years, for an unpaid ticket or school loan.

          • Highspeedloafer

            John, That’s when you seek out a doctor who will accept your cash money or PM’s for treatment. I already a doc and dentist lined up. Get with the program. 🙂

          • AHMLOVINIT

            Learn to speak and act spansh(sp mine)…go to emergency room…senor!
            Federal(#$%^&*) law…no one can be turned away from emergency care…UHoh…Well, let’s just say O hasn’t socialized hospitals….YET!

        • Straight - No Chaser

          sispack says: How about you just have some balls and DO NOT COMPLY, instead of sneaking around”


          I get the point. Screaming “I will not comply” is honorable, but may not result in the best outcome for you personally. However, subversion works, too.

          So long as you are doing SOMETHING!!, I ain’t going to quibble w what you do. It all adds up.

          I got a bigger problem w those who do nothing bc they can only do a little.

      • Leadinglady3

        The law is written that if you fail to be insured for 3 months of out of the year, you will be fined. However, there is another loophole. If you are required to take the insurance and the premiums exceeds 8% of your income, you can ask for an exemption to the fine. If you are required to pay the fine, it will be deducted from your tax return. If you give the slip on that they can take your driver’s license.

        • AHMLOVINIT

          Hmmm…If they take your drivers license…move to Calif. Become Hispanic…change nama to Maria…get new drivers license…You now can run over someone w/o paying at all…Comprende? SI…What a CONtry…(grrrrrr)

    38. slingshot

      “How Do You Like Me Now?”

      By The Heavy.

      Democratic Party Song! Paaaaar Ty


        Wait a min slingdude…Shouldn’t that be ‘If you don’t know me by now…you will never never KNOW me…’ ;-{

    39. RICH99

      And your wondering WHY dhs is arming to the teeth …..this will FORCE Americans to revolt or starve to death while freezing under an overpass with your family !!
      This is absolute INTENT to force us into poverty ……when people have nothing left to lose ……THEY LOSE IT and THAT my friends is where DHS comes into the equation …..they were never created to keep us safe they were created to KEEP US IN LINE !!!!!

      • BadAmerican

        Agreed Sir.

        Time to take the high ground.

        ….does this SMG make me look fat?…..BA.

        • Kulafarmer

          It looks fine BA
          What goes better with my farmer outfit,
          The 590A1 shotty or the AR ? And should i wear the ballcap? Or the boonie?

          • BadAmerican


            Go with the shotty. Better yet, get a coach gun and a Jed Clampett floppy hat.

            • Kulafarmer

              Awww maaann, i just took the coach gun to the gun shop to sell it! Damn

          • AHMLOVINIT

            Best get a SOMBRERO amigo…SI..Get a serape’ too and bottle of Tequila…with worms included…you now look like real stupid…ahhahahahahaha…just funnin

      • braveheart

        Howdy, Rich99. No dispute there. The only problem with that plan is DHS doesn’t have anywhere near enough manpower to take on the American patriots. If they want to come out and commit suicide, somebody will oblige them. I, for one, know I’m standing up and fighting them. Revolt is the only option we have to save this country. MOLON LABE braveheart

        • Sgt. Dale

          Count me by your side!!!

          • braveheart

            Good evening, Sarge. I’ll be glad to have you. Like I’ve said previously, my primary concern is DHS and foreign troops. I can’t believe DHS won’t have foreign troops backing them because they know they can’t take us on all alone. Even with foreign troops, I still question how many countries will send how many troops to deal with us. Obviously they must keep a certain number of troops at home in case of any “internal problems” they might have. I still believe we can make a difference, foreigners or no foreigners. I’ll be in this fight for the duration or until I’m killed. If it comes to that, in the words of Nathan Hale, “I regret that I have but one life to give for my country.”

            • jp

              Foreign troops…approximately 386,000 according to John Moore’s insider info.

            • Night breaker

              Braveheart ,
              Most of us in DHS are sitting home furloughed , TPTB are afraid that our weapons will be pointed at them rather than follow their ILLEGAL ORDERS. What I would like to know is who are the people being observed at DHS? It’s not us ( DHS) ! SGT Dale won’t say it I cannot blame him for it, but the last dire FEDERAL bulletin that I read stated for us to be prepared for an event that could possibably occur in the month of October another on here that works in a different agency recieved the same email at work marked SENSITIVE it arrived after 5:00 pm .We are really skating on thin ice right now, the key is the 17 of October when the default begins , the next critical day is November 1 when we will be in total default. , the Markets will collapse ,
              Government benefits will not be paid . This is when we could get into a Civil Unrest situation. This is what our Great Leader wants strait out of SAUL ALENSKYS work book.
              This is the danger point he WILL declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY EVENT , ( Martial Law)
              TPTB know their time is limited , this is a dangerous combination.



              Semper Fi 8541

              • maddog

                Night Breaker,

                Activity to my west has been reduced quite a bit in the last week. Any idea about the event?

              • braveheart

                Night breaker, if DHS would stand WITH the people instead of ACTING AGAINST the people, things could be different. As you said, the key time frame to watch is Oct. 17 to Nov. 1. If the US defaults, party time is right around the corner. Everyone get everything you can now while you still can.

            • Sgt. Dale

              Jp sais around 360,000 I believe his correct. Dose DHS have enough of them plastic coffins for them? I can tell you right now if we take out around 100,000 they will return home, because the US will have a CIVIL WAR and the economy of their country will crash! When that happens they will have their own CIVIL WAR, so they will have to return home.

              Night Breaker. You are right. Unfortunately they are also sending out false info, because they know there are LEO’s like me that are not afraid of them and will stand up to them. Don’t get stuck on the dates they are putting out. The dates might be a distraction!

              Be prepared all the time. Sleep with one eye open. Don’t shut down your life and live in fear. “Be prepared not scared!”

              If DEFAAULT happens Get as much extra food and water to your homes ASAP. Don’t forget to fill all your gas and propane tanks. Keep an eye on the big cities, when they start collapsing then exit from the Cities will be into the rural areas. This is when we will have to deal with ZOMBIES!!!

              Prepare you group for how you are going to handle this mess.
              My God be with You and Yours.

              • Night breaker

                I been sleeping with one eye open since Sept 30, Load out gear packed and ready to go.
                The event we were warned about was a long duration shut down of the government affecting the economy and the accompanying problems this might generate, make no mistake this a political crisis , At this point honestly I do not know what to believe coming out of the government.

                Your right, if you see this going down load up on food and water make sure you have the basics in place and cash on hand , CC probably will not work, cash will be accepted for a limited time, you will most likely have a grace period of about three days before things start to get hairy once the default occurs and things stop moving.

                Keep vigilent ,

                RESIST NO MATTER WHAT.



                Semper Fi 8541

              • slingshot

                SGT Dale.

                Each coffin holds up to four bodies.

        • Slick One

          Braveheart Id
          give you 100,000,000 thumbs up if I could!

          • braveheart

            Slick One, thank you for that. just keep prepping; get all you can while you still can.

        • RICH99

          The problem is that patriots aren’t organized ….big problem!!!!

          • maddog


            maybe we should get that ball rolling? I’ve been looking for real patriots. Not the armchair ones. PO’d Patriot is right on the money, when certain people are agreement where they weren’t before it may indicate we may very close to trouble.

      • PO'd Patriot

        Rich99, I guess things are gettn’ ready to happen. I can tell cause folks are agreeing with you more. You’re scaring me…….knock it off.

    40. ArmedPatriot

      So the majority now see’s why the need the minority. Screw them. Let it all burn. I can’t wait for the Revolution. Seems like its going to be pretty easy if they don’t have guns. 🙂

      • Tactical

        They don’t have guns????? They have the entire fricking DHS behind them.

    41. Colonel Cooley

      The DHS does not have enough ammo for all of us. We the people are going to kick some DHS butt if it comes to that…

      • Tactical

        Never underestimate your enemy. Every single Government on this planet will use anything and everything in their arsenal against an uprising. They may lose at the end but they are not playing this game to lose. The end game for them is TOTAL DOMINATION OF ALL CITIZENS.

        • Slick One

          That may be so, however once a few career politicans and their minions are seen to be executed…..other career politicans will then try to reason with and then finally support the people for fear of a similar result.
          Having money and power has never made anyone invunerable.
          A few examples, Marie Antoinette and family,JFK, RFK,….
          Angry populations can be quite a lot to deal with, especially when said populations have nothing left to lose.

          • Tactical

            Slick, I 100% agree with you. My point was what is to be expected as a last step from the criminals in the Government.

      • braveheart

        Colonel Cooley, DHS can be successfully challenged and defeated, despite all of their hi-tech toys. they don’t have the manpower to carry out anything significant. When the feds totally turn against the people, IT WILL BE GAME ON. braveheart

        • OutWest

          braveheart — you are so right

          A DHS uniform and a pistol does not a warrior make.

          To them it’s just a job.

          The first bullet that cracks past their ear
          will send them shittin’ and gittin’ like a
          turpentined dog racing for the creek. They
          never even so much as played high school
          football. Just a bunch of wannabe pussies.

          • Paranoid

            Exactly what the N said about the S in 1861. The S said the same about the N, One N preacher said it was all a farce, and he would be able to wipe up all the bloodshed in his handkerchief. 8 years later after the bloodiest war we have ever seen; no one said that. we must do what we must do; but you are an idiot.

            • OutWest


              An idiot I may be, but you sir, are a pompous ass.

              Your analogy of the War of Northern Aggression is
              a poor comparison to the situation that exists in
              the current state of affairs today.

              • Mama Bear

                OutWest, don’t be offended by being called an idiot by someone who thinks the Civil War lasted 8 years*. Wear it as a badge of honor.

                *It lasted 4 years. Although I suppose it is true that they were not making that claim in 1869.

              • Paranoid

                I apologize for the typo that was an 8 rather than a 3, I make no apology for my comment, you are an ass, You are exactly the same sort as the people that left DC to watch the first battle of the Civil War; they thought it would be such fun. When they ran screaming for their lives later, they knew better. Among other things I was a history major once. I may be an ass also, but The pomp is all yours. Civil WAR is UGLY! Only idiots think otherwise and everyone always thinks the other side will cower and run. I will fight for my freedom, if I have to but I have no illusions. YOu on the other hand will wet your pants the first minute, but feel free to run; there has always been a well known way to take care of those kinds of people.

        • RICH99

          Brave heart , your forgetting all the foreign troops here to help plus the U.N. …..won’t be easy

      • sixpack

        “…send ’em home with a ‘I just pumped the neighbor’s cat’ look on their face…

        Heartbreak Ridge.

      • Navy Vet

        I beg to differ Colonel. As of last year DHS had 1.8B (that’s BILLION will a B) rounds with another 500M to 1B more on order. Just the 1.8B is about six rounds for every man, woman and child in this country. I’d say they have plenty of ammo considering that they won’t be wasting much on women and children that most likely won’t be shooting back.

      • RICH99

        It won’t ONLY be DHS ……it will be Russians , Chinese , U.N. etc. It will be a blood bath for everyone involved

    42. InsanityISContagious

      Gotta say, Mac, this is your BEST article. I love when the chickens come home to roost.

    43. Merlin

      I had to weigh in on this one. first of all, i’m not a bama supporter. I think he’s fu-king jerk! but the small change that this is going to require is peanuts compared to what the wall street thieves got away with, seventeen trillion, was it? not to mention what ceo’s and insurance companies and the one percent get away with, and add to it the millionaires whom we call congressmen and senator lavish on themselves.
      and Boehner finally spilled the beans on tv this weekend. he said the money for social security has been borrowed by past governments. that’s another way of saying they pissed it away! ha! ha! ha! isn’t that something? just think about it; they borrowed the money for who knows what, lost it, gave it away, spent it on invasions, bought coke, or maybe pussy, who knows, but now we, who put this money away for social security, are going to have to get a good hosing out once again because these “intellectuals” who run, and have been running, the country for decades once again fu-ked up, and yet they continue to pass these multitude of bills to further repress and control the population because we’re too ignorant to care for and control ourselves! how much more of this insanity do we have to endure? I mean, really!

      • braveheart

        Welcome aboard, Merlin. you’ve come to the right website. We are all of one accord about Obama.

        • sixpack

          yeah, he needs to learn the rope dance.

      • Smokey

        Did you just find out about the Social Security trust fund? It’s been nothing but IOU Treasury Notes for decades, since the 1960’s.

        Where do you think the money for the Great Society came from?

        If there was any money in the trust fund, why would they be talking about taking your IRA and 401K money and putting it into more T-bills, risking a revolt? They have no where else to go for the money, it’s gone.

    44. swampratt

      If you depend on the government then you can fall with
      the with the government JESUS said depend on no man

    45. Me here

      Well written, Mac. Myself and others like me who had a bad vibe about this guy from the get-go knew this day would come! Even though I knew we would be equally screwed, I thought it would be fun to watch the looks on “Dear Leaders” followers faces when reality dawned on them! You didn’t disappoint! 🙂

    46. bowlan

      I love it when a libtard votes for free sht then it comes back and bites then in their ass


      I think we should take all dem women who voted for obama and use the health care reform and give them massive breast implants.

      That way we can all enjoy it. ha

      • sixpack

        you can tie two pink balloons together for a whole lot less.

        • gone under

          feels the same too.

          • sixpack

            LOL, was her name Maybelline too? LOL.

    48. RickE.

      That just figures! The democrats figured the money would come from JUST conservatives. OR, money just grows on trees!
      Did they actually think that welfare recipients would pay??
      Mental retardation at its finest!!!

      • Smokey

        You know, just make ‘the rich pay their fair share’, that kind of thing. Fools.

      • John W.

        Obummer care is meant to fail while causing maximum pain in the process. Then comes single payer and game over as they will be able to deny care for any reason. Think your posts on this site will not be referenced when denying care.

    49. obb

      You wanted it, liberals, now you’ve got it. Suck it down. Suck it all down. You’ve earned every last bit of it.

    50. gone under

      Although I disagree with 50% of Facebook Page’s comments, I sure hope he is getting better today. God bless him.

      • James in Dallas

        Same here. I hope the old bastard didn’t die. Best wishes facebook page.

    51. S T

      You really don’t know how much something will cost until you get it for “free”.

    52. BadAmerican

      Off Topic:

      Local grocer had short dated instant potatoes, 28 ounce box, for 50 cents a box. I bought mucho.

      ….potato pancakes, ymmmmm……

      …….does this web site font make me look fat?…..BA.

      • durango kidd

        No, the website does not make you look fat, but when I hacked your computer camera today, it looked like you put on ten pounds since last year.

        Just saying. Maybe you need to clean the lens. 🙂

        • BadAmerican


          Lol Sir, well played. Don’cha know, a camera adds ten pounds.

          Actually, just got back from Texas. I spent 12 days with the family, and momma can still cook. Any weight gain just comes with the territory.

          Best to you and yours.

          …be safe….stay the course….BA.

    53. Warchild

      Just one more example that shows neither party nor their masters can be trusted,to the few sane voices in the political game,come up with a solution soon/accept others good solutions or get the hell out of the way.The ride will be rough and bloody but short of nukes ect. we will arise from the ashes of our self immolation like the mighty phoenix.OK,perhaps not,but tis what keeps me going!

    54. The realist

      We all know the 2nd election of the Bama was rigged!!

      They (D) made their beds.. Now get ready to sleep In them!!

    55. Anon

      I get the feeling that PTB are getting just a little nervous, that just maybe more of the sheeple are waking from their coma, not many but a few more. The 1% may be 2% now, but yes it is growing. Soon there will be many False Flags at a great many places, so far they have been in highly populated areas, but that is going to change I fear. There’s going to be False Flags in Little Town U S A, I do not know what, but just think what they have to work with, one thing is SCHOOLS. Some car bombs at basketball games, more mass shootings who’s to know; but they are coming. Just be prepared for mass destructions. These people don’t care for anyone but their own just remember that: NO ONE!

    56. mallardhen

      For a very long time I couldn’t get anyone to listen to me about bama and those involved now my phone rings off the hook asking what is going on, when I tell them the truth their answer is thats not what they say on TV, well of course not you silly thing all major TV news is only what they(gov.) want you to know not the truth.

      But I must say in the past few weeks I have turned some into believers and now their prepping.

      • Anonymous

        If you folks had paid attention in high school when your history teacher covered the chapter on “Communism,” you would not have had such a struggle to explain Obama to your friends and family. They already would have had the knowledge and tools necessary to spot Obama for what he has been since childhood.

        Lesson in Communism 101: All of Communism is a lie. All Communists lie because they must…no one would accept their goals if they told the truth. All Communists are inherently lazy…they are losers who decide to survive by scheming to take from productive people what they cannot or will not produce for themselves. All Communists are inherently corrupt. All Communists are driven to control others…no one will willingly adhere to Communist life because it is so utterly unattractive and therefore control is required to prevent overthrow of Communism. All Communists gain positions of influence and power by appearing to be “do gooders”…once in place, they immediately seek two things: (1) to remove all opposition, especially through removing the opposition’s access to weapons, and (2) to consolidate their power by centralizing all forms of power. All Communists seek to remove belief in God as quickly as possible after gaining power…belief in God gives people hope and moral strength for resisting the enslaving principles of Communism.

        Now, never forget, overlook, or compromise on these points. It could just save your life some day.

        In the meantime, let’s say a prayer that Speaker Boehner stands firm and does not raise the debt ceiling, and, that he successfully cuts off the millions of welfare recipients who truly do not need or deserve the financial support of the producing segment of our country. Entitlements must be heavily cut, and there is no other way to even begin to re-strengthen our nation.

        • Anonymous

          As an adjunct to the above…..

          Speaker Boehner could and would be the foremost hero of this country for this time in our history if he accomplishes the following three things.

          1. Does not raise the debt ceiling.
          2. Cuts welfare entitlements to the extent that everyone knows is needed, i.e. no more welfare for baby mommas, no more disability welfare for those who really don’t need it and actually can work, no more welfare for simply being unable to walk due to obesity, no more grants for community action “non”-profit groups, no more grants for flaky medical research projects or for research projects whose only goal is to confirm what common sense already has proven, no more overpaying for defense-related goods and services, no more steaks and other high end foods for prison inmates, no more Section 8, no more utilities-related welfare assistance, no more obamaphones, no more transportation-related welfare assistance, and, no Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”).
          3. Impeaches Obama and voids all presidential actions taken during Obama’s administration.

          He will need God’s help, so pray for him.

          • Highspeedloafer

            I agree, He would be a Hero, but if history is any indicator, he will fold at the last minute. I hope he doesn’t and am praying to that extent.

    57. Your mom

      My handful of liberal friends still believe Obama.
      Dude lies in every speach. Don’t fund Obama care site is barly getting any actions.

      Stay prepped people.

    58. Your mom

      We are so fucked

    59. PenCRNA

      Well, apparently Harry Reid is now in charge of negotiations, because Obama gives the republicans what they want. OMG. I can’t even speak the things I want to say I am so angry at the whole bunch. The SS would be banging down my door. I am one angry tax payer. They forget who they work for, who made them the rich, fat, ball-licking cats that they are.

      unfortunately, none of the libtards where I work will notice much difference with obummer care because the hospital is mostly self insured, and our premiums won’t go up this year (thank god for my husband and I). Well that was before 10/1. I hope we don’t have any new developments.

      sorry if i’m not making sense. My blood is boiling.

      • Me here

        You’re not the only one with boiling blood…and so help me if the Republicans give in to that smarmy snot.

    60. 1 4 all

      USA destruction by design.Break us down to third world status.After all global corps, should not have to pay more for labor here, than in a third world country. I think they will introduce a global digital currency.After that our silver and gold will be a relic.This lines up with the bible.May the Lords will be done.Trying to survive in this world is not as important,has to where you will be living for eternity.

    61. Brian

      This is the result of the dumbing down of America. It is also a result of the lack of discipline in society. Now we are set to suffer the last discipline which is war. Things will spiral out of control, especially if the government defaults. It will affect economies around the world and some countries are going to want to kick our butts. Frankly, raising the debt ceiling will simply postpone the inevitable. Too big to fail, huh.

    62. wildman

      If i was TPTB, i would just a might worried cause the last info i saw was that there was 12.1 million firearms purchased since jan. so im just guessin it doesnt seem that huntin or let me rephrase that deer huntin is on the minds of all these folks. Remington just opened up the new ammo plant in arkansas so ammo is now becomin plentiful again. so IMO these folks just might want to start wearin castiron drawers cause someone is gonna get shot right in the ass. On a lighter note after i evicted the beavers just like flushin the toilet, seems the blast rattled the windows in town an knocked the china cabinet off the wall of one the dear ladies in town. So if i dont reply or checkin for a while its cause i gotta do community service for my shenaigans, but then ya never can tell. Ps ar rifles are back on sale for very i mean very reasonable prices again. Its time for 3 fingers of single malt for a job well done evictin the damn beavers. wildman out

    63. Be informed

      Let’s face it, anyone that votes for the two party system can expect one thing back for their loyalty, BETRAYAL and DISAPPOINTMENT.

      I am so sick and tired of this, and we all are waiting for something awful in the making as the distraction to this horsesh$%. You can bet they are looking for one. All of a sudden you have the military go after these characters in Libya, one that was openly walking the streets in Libya. The biggest distraction though may come from the planet.

      I may not be able to cross reference the past major earthquakes from these divergent plate earthquakes, but I can see something quite bad brewing and it is aimed in several spots, one of them the Pacific Northwest and Alaska, and to a lesser degree California. You had a near major quake of 6.4 on the southwest corner of the Australian plate, a 6.2 and a 5.0 on the southern Nazca plate, and several other plate boundary quakes on various spots around the world. This means that the outer plates are experiencing a back fed from a section of one of those plates that is locked and loaded for something huge.

      I am going to attempt something different with the forecasting of the future major earthquakes by giving the approximate magnitude of each danger area that should go by Oct. 21, but probably by Oct. 17. One of more of these should be hit with an earthquake of the stated size. The following areas are at danger:

      Japan, 7.1 to 8.4
      Western China, 7.5 to 8.7
      India, 7.9 to 9+
      Burma, 6.8 to 7.7
      Central Indonesia, 7.2 to 8.3
      New Guinea to Soloman Islands, 7.0 to 8.2
      Santa Cruz/Loyalty/Samoa Islands Triangle, 7.4 to 8.4
      Kermadec Islands to Tonga and Fiji, 7.6 to 8.3
      New Zealand, 6.9 to 7.9
      Northern Chile/Bolivia/N. Argentina, 7.3 to 9+
      Columbia to Peru, 7.1 to 8.6
      Central America, 7.0 to 8.2
      Southern Mexico, 7.1 to 7.9
      Califoria, 6.7 to 7.5
      Pacific Northwest, 7.3 to 9.2
      Alaska, 7.6 to 9+
      Kuril Islands to Kamachatka Peninsula, 7.4 to 9+

      Note: probably ONLY one of the areas will be hit if the quake is 7.8 or higher. At the lower end, high 6 to mid 7 probably two or more areas will get a major quake. There are no other places in earthquake zones where energy signatures are coming from.

      Probably the highest chances of a great to mega quake is coming from India and western China, Japan, and west central South America. Alaska and the Pacific Northwest are a close second. California is the least likely of the areas to have a major quake.

      There is just too much activity on the outer plates, and too large to dismiss as nothing to worry about. The largest deep focus quake ever recorded a few months ago had similar action on these outer plates before it hit. This time the size of these plate boundary quakes are larger. The one on the South Mid Atlantic Ridge was the most telling because the same area was hit before and two mega quakes followed, 8.8 in Chile and 9.0 in Japan. There is at least a 30% chance of a 8.6+ coming, and a 75% chance of a 7.5+. That is how serious this movement has been the past week and half.

      • TXGranny

        Hey BI – I always like to see your thoughts about the EQ activity. Just looked at the EQ map and saw the 4.5 off the east coast. Don’t ever recall seeing one in that area! Your thoughts??

        • Be informed

          @ TXGranny. Bermuda Triangle earthquake. These are uncommon but do occur. This would be the northern edge of the Sargasso Sea and a northern extension of the Bahamas Islands chain. The northeastern section of the Caribbean plate is likely responsible for this causing pressure to build up away from it. This could be an indication that the Caribbean plate is also gearing up. I have not seen an earthquake here since before 2000, at least mid 4 pointer. The plates are really getting ready for a major blow highly likely in the above areas.

          I doubt that a pair of mega quakes are coming within days of each other, but it is possible. If the Cascadia fault goes, the San Andreas is not far behind. This would be classified probably as great quake and a mega quake. I have found that with the recent earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, the mass radiation CME release from the Sun, the 5000 or 10000 year floods, that someone cannot expect a disaster to be within the safety zone of being just a catastrophe. I don’t like all the fireballs being seen all over the planet, it means the Earth is rotating through some extensive debris fields for example. A disaster can far exceed the mega SHTF, more like IMTF (I’M TRULY F#$%ED) type of event.

    64. CuzzinJim

      I have some family up in Tn that are bleeding heart liberals. Truth means nothing to them, and they toe the democrappic line to the tee. I tried to explain to them what was going to happen, but arguing with idiots really wears you down. They are both retired now, but they voted for Obozo twice, could be more for all I know, so they can let it suck their savings away. I have 0 sympathy for them. Trouble is, I didn’t vote for this crap we have and my insurance is getting cranked on up money wise. My pay has been frozen for going on 5 years now. Believe me, I already feel the pain.

    65. America

      Like I have told others. Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for this idiot in chief. Twice to be exact. I wonder how the ky jelly stock is going to do here soon. I am thinking that sales are about to go through the roof when the libs start getting their insurance bills. Glad I have been prepping for this debacle.

    66. Banderman

      We should be able to use ‘Roe vs. Wade’ to defeat and destroy Obamacare. The entire matter flies in the legal face of the spirit of Roe vs. Wade. If it’s good enough for women, it’s good enough for the rest of us. Period. Liberals cannot and shall not have their legal cake and eat it, too.

      The Court’s majority opinion was based on the premise of a “woman’s personal right to privacy and to choice.”

    67. Banderman

      In part, Roe vs. Wade:

      The Court’s majority opinion was based on the premise of a “woman’s personal right to privacy and to choice.” These, they believed, came indirectly from the freedoms given in the Constitution’s ninth and fourteenth Amendments, reserving rights to the people and giving personal liberties. It was also claimed that a woman should have the power to decide all aspects of future, including the termination of her pregnancy. Through this reasoning the court chose to side step the fundamental responsibility of the mother for her child. What was necessary to sustain their logic was the acceptance of arguments against the personhood of a child. Thus, the “right to life” of the child was entirely subjugated to the “right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness” of the mother. Neither the Constitution, nor the Declaration of Independence, from which these rights were derived, suggest or allow any such “freedom of choice” for one person over another (Stevens, 139-143).

    68. Icstupidpeople

      I really think some of these Obama supporters have no clue about how to understand the new premiums. A coworker kept bragging about how much his premium went down on his private insurance. There was no way I could believe it. Under 30 and a male with a dramatically decreased rate? Sure enough when I investigated more they thought the stated premium was for the year and divided the amount by 12 months rather than understanding it was his monthly rate. After realizing his error………SILENCE!

      • JayJay

        Oh, s**t, now that’s funny!!!
        My neighbors, the Obambi lovers, don’t even speak to me any more–it’s not their insurance they are ticked about, since they are seniors–it’s their kids’ premiums I bet that doubled!!!
        Karma is a bitch.

        • Pissed Off Granny


          Sounds like your neighbors are cousins of mine. Old man and old lady. Had their “vote for Ohole” sign proudly stuck in their yard.

          I had a big red and white stop sign that said “stop Ohole” stuck in mine.

          Cant even stand to look at that stoopid old couple. I know they would vote for satan if he were on the democrat side of the ballot.

          Hope I live to see what shakes out over at their house when shtf.

    69. Sgt. Dale

      This is cool the slugs out there thinking that they are going to get something for nothing just got bit in the Ass from reality!

      • Slick One

        Sgt Dale I can wait for the default NOV 1st, I wanna see those EBT, Welfare Check, Section 8 Housing, WIC, SNAP…..people squirting buckets of tears when the gravy train derails. People who have sat on their fat arses for life finally having to work to survive like we do! Should the aforementioned moochers seek to take from others by theft and burglary, may they all get a severe case of lead poisioning!

        • Sgt. Dale

          Slick one
          You know you are right, but there are some folks out there that should be getting this kind of help.

          I would bet that you are right that there are slugs out there that have done nothing to earn the help or have a self infliced problem like drugs or alcohal, and they will have a S%^%T fit when they don’t get the checks.

          If they break into my house they will be met by a large pair of K9’s and if they get passed him! A steady diet of copper and lead. I think that it will happend a lot in some areas.
          Sleep with one eye open if the default comes!!!

    70. Sgt. Dale

      I answered your ? on 10/6/13

      • VRF

        Thank you Sgt Dale
        Its exactly as I thought, what a bitch getting into that line of work just to see the new guys come in and rip up all the good work you must have done in your long hours and days trying to make a difference..I completely get it

        OPSEC as it were I really dont want to say what training I have or where my background comes from , but I feel your pain.
        and completely understand your view point on what your choices are.
        Some of what I have already posted I feel I can say and can drop some names you might know that may bring you to seeing some of my background

        Dave Spaulding ring a bell, or Charles E Humes Jr. ?

        P.I.T.T. and R.A.C.S?

        I also have had some of Uncle Sams people show me a thing or two. and currently being trained in Krav Maga by a local group of officers and aux. Have a few friends with badges , im no bad ass, or rambo… but I think I can take care of myself and family

        Some guys scare the shit out of me in a bad way, I can tell who’s been drinking too much of the coolaid, just by the words they drop and the actions they try to push forward.

        Trust me, I know it is a thankless job, and these punk cops these days are not helping matters for your type at all.
        The way the world works unfortunately is that the good guys in blue are getting painted with the brush from the bad guys in blue..guilt by association seems to be the order of the day, the cop with little real world skills , is the one getting bad attention and its being layed across the entire thin blue line.

        I do feel a lot of it plays on maturity.(hiring too young). i dont see this in my “pals in blue” that are older..but the younger ones seem to be trying to make up for their short comings by trying to become little dictators of their own., or its just fear, and if they are that scared.(to where they shoot first..always).they shouldnt be doing that job.

        also agree on the scary toys they are letting out to city and state cops , for multiple reasons ..1. it further solidifies the gastapo quest from the bullish youngins, and 2..cop cars and other police equipment has been in the past stolen from the police..wait til a MRAP comes up missing..not a good thing.

        I also remember Oblaimy saying that American Military equipment should never be on the streets of our country..yet as always a big fat lie from the joke of a leader we have.

        Be safe out there.

    71. Darkstar

      Affordable care….brought to you by Dewey, Cheatam & Howe !!

    72. Anonymous

      Stupid Lib’s…. always engaging feeeeeelings instead of brain….

    73. M

      The obama suppositories are shocked that dear leader just crapped them out . Then powerflushed them with five gallons of boiling water. Comedy gold this is.

    74. Musashi

      Burn it down.



      I’m creating a new business.
      My solution is simple..full automation and DON’T HIRE DEMS EVER!!!!






      Boneheads… the “99%” who did not have the balls to create their own venture and were waiting for someone to give them a job. wahhhhh.
      ha ha

    76. howdy-doody

      on my trip to the poor house, the only satisfaction I will get, is the last laugh at those idiots who voted for Oboy.

    77. Ralphieboy

      Well, as John Wayne said as Sgt. Stryker in Sands of Iwo Jima, “life is tough, but it’s a lot tougher when you’re stupid”

      So for all of the dependent, parasitic intellectuals, college professors, news reporters, welfare cheats and starry eyed socialists, how does it feel being dumber than a box of rocks in your blind allegiance to President Fraudmeister? Are you feeling genuinely moronic now?

    78. ponomo

      Have you signed the petition to attach liens upon WDC Corporation retirement accounts for the benefit of legal Americans?

    79. PO'd Patriot

      Yesterday I was heading to a customer’s home to do perform some routine maintenance. I hadn’t been down to that town for a couple of months. Its a small town. Main street is probably 5-600 yds long before it ends at the ferry dock.
      My son and I counted a dozen homes along main street that had “for sale” signs in the front yards. Most of the homes there are secondary homes owned by wealthy people. Many Mercedes and luxury vehicles parked out front. I remember riding through town during last election time and seeing Obama signs in most of those yards. People never learn to be careful for what they wish for.

    80. km

      The truckers are going to wind up accomplishing nothing just like the bikers did. Or perhaps get arrested, fired from the their jobs, and become homeless? This stuff is all after the fact now. America is judged from above and it’s going to be a rough ride for a lot of folks. But overall it will help, because humility, and morality might come out of this judgement, which in the long run will heal and restore this land.

      • VRF

        maybe your right, but don’t underestimate the power of the Truckers of this country..every thing you own was brought to you by
        and if they stop does this country to some degree..if they decide to dig their heels in it could get ugly.If they are mistreated in this peaceful demonstration, it could end bad for those pushing to stop them. The fact that this bunch of clowns in DC don’t understand is WE own them, and if WE get pissed enough, or someone abuses one of these could go postal really fast

        if they are smart they would quit treading on us, and get back to doing the peoples work as we want it done, not their own ideas of what we should have done.

        its quite obvious that they are out of control, and Its high time they get reeled in

        I hope it has a positive impact, I hope it wakes some sheeple up..I do hope the truckers don’t back down
        you got to stand for something , or you’ll fall for anything

        I guess time will tell.

        • BlueH20

          The thing is, the striking truckers are just a minority of owner operators. The majority are just Teamsters driving for some corporate owner. They are so regulated by their employers (and all are so regulated by the States/Feds), there is little chance they will not be where they are scheduled to be at the correct time.

          Boycotts don’t work. People just shift buying to before and after.

          • VRF


            im just hopeful for a piece of the message sent to sheeple, and this admin

            maybe it will, maybe it wont

          • gone under

            3000 trucks on one hwy can block alot of traffic. They are owner/operator, so they wont get fired. The only barrykade that can stop a truck is spikes and k rail. The Vets will be there at the same time as well as some bikers. This is what we Need. I am too far away but I am going to the Fed land near me.Besides, hunting season is here on thursday and the rangers are furlowed.

            • km

              If this situation will be the catalyst for martial law, then the tanks will be waiting – and it’s going to get ugly! Obongo hates america and americans. He’s not going to let some independent truckers take over! When plans like those are made by knee jerk reactions, obviously the prez. won’t be in town!

        • km

          This bunch of DC clowns seems to get around everything. Really all they need to do is threaten their jobs, or slap huge fines on them, and game over. The fact that the truckers are taking donations for fuel speaks volumes! For this thing to really send a message (all) the truckers would have to storm the castle! Just the independent drivers showing up won’t disrupt very much other than their own financial situation.

          • gone under

            OK. explain how you can threaten thier jobs and slap fines on them….We cant, and they know it. The Truckers will accomplish more in 3 days than we have on the net in 3 months bitching about the gov.

            • km

              Duh, it’s a rogue government – they make up stuff as they go along, or haven’t you noticed that? All they will accomplish is initiating martial law sooner than later. Upon that happening, game over for everyone. Once the military hit the streets, any semblance of freedom will be gone.

              • gone under

                Sooner is Better than Later. Martial law has to come in order to reset. Do You have a solution or a plan? Sounds like you might be one of those “Roll Over” people.

                • km

                  There won’t be any re-set. It will be communist rule and all the sheeple wlll have to comply or die! Just wait when the soldiers roll you over!

              • REB

                Naw…the military cant stop freedom…nor will most of them try to…

          • Pissed Off Granny


            What is your problem with the “donations” for the DC truckers?

            Nobody twisted my arm when I sent mine.

            If I can make it one bit easier for one trucker to show up in DC I am more than proud to donate.

            • km

              Haven’t you read scripture? You count the cost before you go to battle, or do anything else! If you can’t get yourself to the battle, then don’t go. Americans really are a new kind of stupid!

              • REB

                no…you are just an old kind of chicken…barock,barock..

        • JayJay

      • VRF

        you beat me to it

      • Pissed Off Granny


        I would like to meet that ‘concerned citizen’. Seems whoever it is has really done their homework.

        Anyone on this site that wonders what is wrong with this world should copy that letter and then start their education subject by subject.

        One thing I see little of on this site is information about “free masonery”. I wonder why. At the highest level those scumbags are knee deep in our demise.

    81. VRF

      So , as I understand it, at the last minute, General Holder called the Lowery family and said he couldn’t attend Mrs. Lowery’s funeral ceremonies because of the government shut down.

      Does this mean that that Commie bastard was coming to Atlanta on the taxpayer’s ticket? Wanted to express his respect for this great woman but wasn’t about to put his hand in his own pocket? Or was it that he had to stay close to the office to supervise the crafting of the legal memoranda justifying the NPS closing of the WWII and Viet Nam war memorials?

      Either way, he’s just a dick. But that’s no news.

      sorry you all should know me by now, I just say what I feel, and how it comes to me. didn’t mean to be off topic
      I feel anything going on with these shit heads needs to be aired so that when we kick their ass to the curb they wont be able to say they didn’t know, with as ignorant as they are, you know that tactic is in their arsenal

    82. Satori

      Weekend Attacks on Arkansas’ Electric Grid Leave 10,000 Without Power; ‘YOU SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED U.S.’

      “More than 10,000 people in Arkansas were dumped into a blackout Sunday following an attack on that state’s electric grid, the FBI said today, the third such attack in recent weeks. In August, a major transmission line in the region, around Cabot, Ark., was deliberately cut.”

      • x-soviet

        This sounds like real stuff, and this is what really scary…

    83. VRF

      libtard constituency is as follows: please add if you feel I’ve left someone out, lord knows we don’t want to make them cry
      1. gays
      2. people on welfare
      3. people on foodstamps
      4. race baiters
      6. satanists
      7. lawyers
      8. wall street- goldman sachs, bank of america, chase, AIG,
      9. medicade – those faking disability and could be working
      10. baby killers
      10. gun grabbers
      11. muslims
      12. Hiphop and rap industry-” lets rape women and kill cops”
      13. hollywood
      14.those taking unemployment by choice – refuse to look for a job
      15. those opposed to freedom of speech- especially anti-liberal speech
      16. those here illegally that vote
      17. dead voters

      • Be informed

        @ VRF. You left out the worst of the worst libtards. Number 18. BO worshippers that know that BO is the second coming.

        • VRF

          thanks BI for adding to the list, I knew I would have left somethings out in my coffee less induced tyrade 🙂

          • Be informed

            @ VRF. One other one to add to your list of ‘tards. All those that voted for feinsteinless the last election. Did you know that 5,613,610 voted for that orgress the last election? Think about that. There are 5,613,610 f’en retardates that would vote for THAT. That is almost 2% of the population that you could consider utter dumbsh@#$ that are likely driving 2000 pound of more vechicles, that are allowed to serve on a jury, and walking around. Scary thought?

            By the way another earthquake on the outer boundaries of the Nazca plate. I have not seen this many earthquakes around the divergent zones of the world plates in a long time. Something really awful is brewing again. Imagine if one of those plates like the jammed up trench region up in southern Alaska had a super mega quake like the one Chile had back in 1960. The amount of pressure that these plates build up people don’t think about. In 1960 a 9.5 hit Chile, and then ONLY 50 years and only 150 miles away a 8.8 hits. You would think that after a 9.5 it would take at least 100 years to build up enough tension for something that large. I think the most influential quake in the past 10-20 years was that mega strike slip, the largest one ever recorded last year, because it moved so much on a horizontal plane rather than more so a vertical line like these mega thrust quakes. That earthquake in the Bermuda Triangle last night shows tension to the south on the Caribbean plate. Keep watching the quake maps, I think you are going to get to see something huge pretty soon.

            • VRF

              yeah..two very scary things

              thanks for keeping me in the loop

        • ponomo

          “second coming” of the planet’s worst nightmare.

      • slingshot

        18. closet yankee’s

      • Slick One

        Any illegal from the third world.

    84. old guy

      U.S. political intransigency unsettles financial markets: China warns U.S. against a default

      Posted on October 7, 2013 by The Extinction Protocol

      October 7, 2013 – NEW YORK – U.S. stocks dropped on Monday as the partial U.S. government shutdown dragged on with no signs politicians were willing to relax positions over the debt-ceiling limit or budget impasse. Republican House Speaker John Boehner vowed on Sunday not to raise the U.S. debt ceiling without a “serious conversation” about what is driving the debt, while Democrats said it was irresponsible and reckless to raise the possibility of a U.S. default. The United States faces a deadline of Oct. 17 to raise its $16.7 trillion debt limit or risk an unprecedented debt default. The two issues of emergency funding for the government to operate and increase the U.S. borrowing authority started out separately in the House but have been merged by the pressure of time. “Now you’ve got not only the budget but the debt ceiling and time is running out and everybody knows it, including (the politicians),” said Terry Morris, senior vice president and senior equity manager for National Penn Investors Trust Company in Reading, Pennsylvania. “The longer this goes on, the more the uncertainty, the closer the deadline and the more nervous investors are going to be.” The S&P 500 has fallen for two straight weeks and is down nearly 3 percent from its all-time high of 1,725.52 on concerns about the effect of Washington dysfunction on the economy. Each of the 10 major S&P sectors were lower, with financials and energy the worst performers. Exxon Mobil Corp, down 1 percent to $85.42, and Wells Fargo & Co, off 1.5 percent to $49.70 were the biggest drags on the S&P 500 index. The Dow Jones industrial average fell 149.44 points or 0.99 percent, to 14,923.14, the S&P 500 lost 14.4 points or 0.85 percent, to 1,676.1 and the Nasdaq Composite dropped 30.381 points or 0.8 percent, to 3,777.373. –Reuters

      Unprecedented economic calamity: Anyone who remembers the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. little more than five years ago knows what a global financial disaster is. A U.S. government default, just weeks away if Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling as it now threatens to do, will be an economic calamity like none the world has ever seen. Failure by the world’s largest borrower to pay its debt — unprecedented in modern history — will devastate stock markets from Brazil to Zurich, halt a $5 trillion lending mechanism for investors who rely on Treasuries, blow up borrowing costs for billions of people and companies, ravage the dollar and throw the U.S. and world economies into a recession that probably would become a depression. Among the dozens of money managers, economists, bankers, traders and former government officials interviewed for this story, few view a U.S. default as anything but a financial apocalypse. The $12 trillion of outstanding government debt is 23 times the $517 billion Lehman owed when it filed for bankruptcy on Sept. 15, 2008. As politicians butt heads over raising the debt ceiling, executives from Berkshire Hathaway Inc.’s Warren Buffett to Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s Lloyd C. Blankfein have warned that going over the edge would be catastrophic. “If it were to occur — and it’s a big if — one would expect a series of legal triggers, potentially transmitting the default to many other markets,” said Mohamed El-Erian, chief executive officer of Pacific Investment Management Co., the world’s largest fixed-income manager. “All this would add to the headwinds facing economic growth. It would also undermine the role of the U.S. in the world economy.” –Yahoo Finance

      China warns U.S. against a default: A senior Chinese official has warned that the “clock is ticking” to avoid a U.S. default that could hurt China’s interests and the global economy. China, the US’s largest creditor, is “naturally concerned about developments in the U.S. fiscal cliff,” vice finance minister Zhu Guangyao said. China holds about $1.3 trillion dollars in U.S. Treasuries. Washington must agree a deal to raise its borrowing limit by 17 October, or risk not being able to pay its bills. He asked that “the U.S. earnestly take steps to resolve” the issue. U.S. Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew has said that unless Congress agrees an increase in the debt ceiling by 17 October, Washington will be left with about $30bn in cash to meet its obligations – about half the $60bn-a-day needed. For many governments and investors the approaching deadlock over the debt ceiling is far more critical than the current impasse over the federal shutdown caused by Congress’s failure to agree a new budget. On Sunday Republican House Speaker John Boehner reiterated that Republican lawmakers would not agree to raising the debt ceiling unless it included measures to rein in public spending. Mr. Zhu said that China and the U.S. are “inseparable.” Beijing is a huge investor in U.S. Treasury bonds. “The executive branch of the U.S. government has to take decisive and credible steps to avoid a default on its Treasury bonds,” he said. “It is important for the U.S. economy as well as the global economy.” –BBC

      Playing with Fire: U.S. budgetary uncertainty is breeding a cloud of fear over global financial markets, and whether both sides harbor intensions of parlaying the dare to the precipice of the eleventh hour to get their way or not; the damage of increased risk to markets may have already been sown. In such a climate of uncertainty, the psychological maelstrom of fear can have incalculable effects on the human psyche. The slightest miscalculation could lead to disaster, as the margin for error is gravely minimalized. The wrong button hit by a trader, or a large investor moving money out of the market due to safety concerns could be enough to trigger an avalanche of sell-offs that could send markets crashing from Singapore to Dubai. -TEP

    85. old guy

      I hope the stalemate continues My birthday is the 17th. That would be the best birthday present ever. I about as ready as I ever will be. Let the house of cards fall. The wheat will quickly be separated from the chaff.

      • Be informed

        @ old guy. You know, the people are the ones that will benefit IF they can stop the runaway debt. The people. Yet you have these zombies complaining how horrible it is that someone is actually taking a stand to stop BO and that baboon helicopter ben from a runaway printing press that has ALWAYS bankrupted nations. Your birthday would be a good one to see it NOT going business as usual and NOT have the usual capitulation that allows the debt to balloon bigger and bigger, till it eventually POPS.

        • old guy

          Yep the way is see it is the collapse would end the selling of most things on credit. If you dont have the funds(gold food ammo labor skills ect to buy or Barter with you will have to do without. A persons labor would have real tangible value. There was a young guy near me Near My former location. out of work wife & children. Came by asking for work. I did him one better. I rented him a tire machine, air compressor and all the tools to fix flat tires. He had worked at a tire store that went under. So he already had the Know How. Now he is the only local guy around that will fix tractor rear flats and the old split rim truck tires. He works out of his garage and a old Pk low overhead he can fix a flat cheaper than Wal Mart and still make a fair profit.. He stays busy and most of his payment is in cash. The rent I charged was he fixed my flats for free. I moved away and he had the money to buy the equiptment. He was scared and hesitant when I suggested he go into business for himself. He now knows his well being and success isn’t dependent on other people things or conditions. Im hoping there will be a resurgence of small one man or family owned enterprizes!

      • RickInOregon

        old guy, I hope you have a nice birthday and treat yourself to something good.

        For that day you can call yourself “older guy”.

    86. Be informed

      Another earthquake on the Australian plate a few minutes ago, 5.7 west of the MacQuarie Islands. This one is very near to the triple junction of the Australian, Pacific and Antarctic plate. There is a real building up of pressure right now. About 90% of the time when an earthquake hits here a 7+ follows within 2 weeks. Too many outer plate boundary earthquakes to discount, something big and bad is coming.

      • M

        Just wanted to zip a quick message and tell you thanks for all your work. I honestly appreciate your posts because I know so little about the subject and I am smarter every time I read what you have written. Now I find myself going to the live earthquakes map daily.
        I don’t reply on these boards because I have found that with every 100 people there are 100 different theories about how this is all going to end. So I just read.
        But I find myself searching out a few people on here and would like to acknowledge their work.
        Satori always has news on latest pandemics (something I am also woefully uneducated about).
        Kymom always posts informative news that I may or may not have read but always something she has researched.
        JOG I think his name was. I miss his posts, don’t know what happened. I always read his posts about solar cycles and stuff.
        Okie and some comic relief.
        Just wanted to say thanks to you people. There are many more that I am not listing so don’t feel slighted. There is always value on this board.

        • Be informed

          @ M. I usually don’t get nervous with earthquakes, I am with this. Whenever you have this type of high activity of divergent plates, that means spreading centers in which the plates are pulling apart from each other. It means there is a back feed of energy from a source of a major earthquake that is so locked that no foreshocks occur. Almost always when there is a foreshock to a large earthquake it is from the fault partially breaking, re-locking and then soon after breaking. Only 5% of the time there is a foreshock. The energy however of this tension has to go somewhere, and it goes to the where the plate is not as locked. This tension is released at these points on the outer regions of the plates. Some plates such as the Philippine plate has no spreading areas and is literally being squeezed together at all points.

          Before the mega deep focus quake earlier this year and the 8.1 Soloman Islands quake, and the largest ever strike slip, horozital quake ever recorded last year, the same high activity of these plate boundaries occurred 2 weeks before each of these. This time the percursor earthquakes are larger. Plus the one on the southern Mid Atlantic Ridge, same place lead to several very large quakes before when it was hit, including two mega earthquakes, one 14 days and the other one 16 days after this quake hit. This Mid Atlantic Ridge quake occurred on Sept. 29. Today is only Oct.8. If this one pattern holds true then late this week or early next week we could all have something horrible. Something very strong is very highly coming though.

    87. SidDavis

      When will people learn that the rule that operates when dealing with government is drop your pants, bend over, and grab your ankles. No other rules apply.

    88. JC75

      Government default? Economic collapse? Societal meltdown? Bring it on. This once great country needs a reset. We’ve become the new Babylon, the Fourth Reich. Morally & financially corrupt to the core.

      Our government: pigs at the trough of the corporations & ultimately the central banks (who btw SELECT our leaders, elections are a farce), robbing-brainwashing-poisoning the citizens, starting wars which have killed millions of innocent people worldwide under the guise of “protecting our freedoms”. Politics? Pffft…a game to keep us distracted.

      Our citizens: ego-driven, consumed with materialism, stricken with apathy, mocking of anyone or anything truly wholesome or spiritual, obsessed-titillated by violence, over-medicated, blindly patriotic, ignorant of the world, TV & gadget addicted etc., etc. I could go on all day. Bottom line is – our culture has become toxic. We’re now stuck somewhere between the visions of George Orwell & Aldous Huxley.

      Get this through your head: we are born slaves. We are issued a number & become property of the central banks. Don’t believe me? Research the following: admiralty or maritime law, War Powers Act of 1917, Federal Reserve Act of 1933.

      As for myself, personally, I will no longer comply. I’m working to the point where I’ll no longer be dependent on anyone for anything. No more taxes, frankenfood, TV, material things I don’t need. I’ve never felt better in my life – mentally, physically or spiritually. I’ve seen the matrix, this illusory world, for what it is. Once you do there’s no turning back.

    89. Pissed Off Granny

      When I opened up my computer this morning the first headlines that slapped me in the face:

      Government payments delayed to families of deceased soldiers:

      Apparently each family receives a $100,000 death benefit but because of the government shut down the payment to the families of the deceased servicemen being brought home during the government shut down will be delayed.

      The article said tptb would try to rectify this problem by today.

      We can pay goons to put up ‘barry’cades all over America but death benefits for families of kids being killed was delayed?

      My blood is boiling. What is next from satans spawn in DC.

      • Be informed

        @ Pissed off Granny. You know what BO’s plan for deceased soldiers that he would consider? Throw them in the landfill. They would give that osama bin laden a burial in white at sea, yet they spit on the soldiers that serve their country. They should have had osama bin laden hanging by his toes in glass display at ground zero, then taken the body dumped it in a trash truck and hauled it off to the land fill. BO though has this reserved for anyone that fails to worship him as some little tin horned God. Terrible disgrace.

      • Kulafarmer

        Mine too granny,
        I saw a few other videos too and saw how the “park police” are treating people,
        Its time to teach them a lesson and shut them down 1776 style.

    90. VRF

      ‘Shutdown’ Day 7: Government Buys $47,174 Mechanical Bull

      yep, sounds about right..

      they are so full of bull that now they need to know what it like to ride on one..

      ( – The government shutdown may be keeping furloughed federal workers at home, but on Monday the U.S. Army contracted to buy a mechanical bull. The $47,174 contract was awarded on Oct. 7 to Mechanical Bull Sales Inc. of State College, Penn.

      • Pissed Off Granny


        Well, now we own 2 mechanical bulls.

        The one is the manchurian mechanical bull that spreads it daily and now this one…….

    91. Stef

      What never ceases to amaze me about Americans, is how they are complete ignorant of the elephant in their living room. The United States have been a socialist country for almost a hundred years now. The one thing different from most other socialist states is that the social money gets spent into a monstruous centralized military machine instead of, let’s say, a centralized health care system.

      You guys are getting it both ways: you end up paying for an inefficient bureaucracy and don’t even get anything in return ! More than that: you pay the brunt of the cannon fodder to the bloodsucking Elite. How incredible that any one with a minimal brain function cannot see the fallacy of in both Democrats and Republicans parties!

      • gone under

        @ Stef. Can we move to your utopia country?

        • Stef

          In my utopia no one’s bragging about living into the beacon of Freedom whilst everybody else can see he’s in fact part in the most enslaved, people on earth.

          What I’m trying to point out here is that the Obamacare rhetoric if a laughable futility. The problem are waayyyy upstream of both Democraps and Republitards.

          Republicans scream ‘Commie!’ at any indication of a federal program but fail to realize they are already taxed up to their ears (unless already billionaire of course) to support federal programs that benefit the Finacial Elite, and them only. The military expenditures in the US are nearing 1 Trillion a year!! And what to say of Corporate and Banking bailouts? Trillions again!! And not just under Obama. One hundred years of history of using the modest, hard working people to endlessly enrich the same cocksuckers. you gotta wake the f… up.

          The American revolution stands out as the greatest attempt by mankind to rid itself of tyranny and slavery to the money people. Those days are now gone, and begins with an honest acknowledgement of the real situation. Leave the brainwashed left-right, liberal-con, Dem-Rep false paradigms behind. Conservatism is dead, there is nothing to “Conserve”, the old values have vanished. It’s time to rebuild.

    92. VRF

      Until people realize that Federal property is our property, and we are the government, more laws will be passed to pave a way for a complete tyrant to rule this nation. These federal property’s that are being closed don’t belong to a small group of people in Washington DC. It belongs to us.

    93. Sapper E6

      DC’s rude awakening is coming.

      It’s almost time. Patiently awaiting the green light to PUSH BACK.

      • Kulafarmer

        I shure as hell hope so.
        The feds better not harm one single vet this saturday is all i know,

    94. inflamed boil

      I have personally met people who are just as dimwitted and ignorant and are members of the Republican party. If Libertarians are battling for control over the Republican party then you guys are battling over a sinking gun boat. Break on through to the other side. Alan Grayson 2016.

      • Stef

        Sure! Just vote yourselves one more loud mouthed blood sucking poster boy.

    95. TR

      I didn’t know my tax dollar would be spent on Rep/Con/Tea healthcare in Congress.

    96. Brant

      Pretty sure if you had coverage before 2010 your policy is “Grandfathered”

    97. Mike

      FEDERAL GOVERNMENT: American adults dumber than average human…
      What a revelation eh comrades!

      • Ckazatb

        I have always said: “never never never underestimate the stupidity and gullibility of the American people.”

    98. Darkstar

      How bout this one…Business owner in NY paying $186.00 per month for a “catastrophic”. Her deductible is $13,000.00.

    99. JX

      “Socialism is the great fiction, whereby everybody endeavours to live off of everybody else.” Frederic Bastiat, 1801-1850
      (Note, French word is literally gouvernement)

    100. Urban ic dog

      I don’t partake in the mental masturbation this country calls politics. They are all the same. D and R people and candidates. No one thinks they will have to pay for programs or tax breaks for the wealthy. This is a problem for everyone.

    101. major

      This clearly proves that Democrats represent the lower half of the intelligence spectrum in the USA.

    102. buttcrackofdoom

      NOW are you ready to elect ron paul, america? i wonder what it would look like if we had the elections TODAY?

      • sign_me_up

        Same thing. Do you see how many gov “union” people are out there. Retarded part is they will all get paid for this “vacation”. They will elect anyone who will keep paying them for doing nothing. The “shutdown” has had zero effect on the working economy as far as I can tell – other than increase in local tourism.

    103. Arizona Dude

      The labeling of those against ACA by Obama, Reid and the rest of that gang; Calling their opponents Anarchists, “Terrorists, extortionist etc. It a precursor to the plan to come after “the resistance” after civil unrest hits a new high. This was part of the whole plan to “paint” the enemy. Its all coming together now. The question remains.. at what point will they declare martial law? We must share intelligence now like never before. We can do the same… if you see something say something, it works both ways.

    104. old guy

      I given it a lot of thought. I believe the positive results from the government default would greatly outweigh the negative. The fact is most government check drawers are complacient sheeple. They believe no matter what that government check food stamp whatever it is will be there at the first of the month. All they need to do is keep voting for fiscal irresponsibility and money redistribution. If that check failed to arrive. even if it was just a day late they would suddenly be out of their comfort zone. Their blind faith in the government always being there to take care of them would be gone. The would suddenly start to question the status quoe. They would start to distrust the government & elected officials. and if it snowballed into out right collapse and revolution so much the better.

    105. Infidels-r-us

      I was watching a group of “educated” college graduates being interviewed by Fox news about current events. Half were Republicans and half were Democrats. They both basically had the same views. I fear for our country after listening to these young people. They don’t have a clue and no common sense. This is how we got the idiot in the white house. Thank you American school system for churning out liberal robots without brains. We are definitely on the highway to hell. Zimbabwe, anyone?

    106. madmarc

      The only way to pay for it is like us commies in Canada do
      ; no direct fees, just 53% of your income in taxes, thank you very much. Then Club Fed can just raid the general coffers for every pet project, including health care, and raise taxes when they run out of money for fur lined sinks for the homelss. Canada is rapidly becoming a haven for every leech from every shore who are hungry for free social assitance. Americans, heed the warning: ditch that bad boy president of yours and overturn this abortion of a health care law, before its too late. You don’t want what we have. As P.J. O’Rourke was fond of saying, if you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when its free.

    107. Au

      “You, and the rest of the 50 million people who elected Barack Obama to not one, but two terms, deserve the pain that’s coming.”

      That’s a pretty crappy way to talk to/about fellow Americans, who have been just a duped as you and I about…well, everything.

      Party affiliations aside (because they matter SOOO much less than many think that they do), we are ALL being screwed by this unaffordable health care “act” (notice how on paper they NEVER use the word law on these things…another subject altogether), and other “policies” enacted to prevent us from being exercising our God-given birthtrights. For the record, I have no political affiliations, such would only detract from my duty to the Creator…which is the speak TRUTH to those who beleive that they are in power politically.

      Also, we “should” all know by now that there’s no elected representatives holding any de-facto offices in “govern-ment”…how can they be elected when the voting has been rigged & politicians have been bought & sold for who knows how long?

      Just saying, fellow Americans aren’t the domestic enemies, the de-facto corporate “government” IS (& this is no free-pass for victimhood either). Maybe the ire above would be better directed toward the usurpers…

    108. ForAmerica

      I don’t feel any sympathy for such people. They chose to keep their heads buried and ignore what people were saying back in 2008. I hope they fully understand that this president would win the biggest liar contest hands down.

    109. Timbleweed

      Those of you who voted for our dear leader and were surprised that their Obamacare costs were going way up, just shup up, eat it and go back to your mother’s basement!

    110. Republicae

      Michael Connelly, Ret. Constitutional Attorney

      Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009.
      I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

      To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.

      The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government.

      However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

      The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own.

      The irony is that the Congress doesn’t have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

      This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, in direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, of all of your personal healthcare information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

      If you decide not to have healthcare insurance, or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However , that doesn’t work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the due process of law.

      So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much, out the original ten in the Bill of Rights, that are effectively nullified by this law. It doesn’t stop there though.

      The 9th Amendment that provides: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people;

      The 10th Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

      I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to “be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution.” If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.

      For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution, and Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.

      Michael Connelly
      Retired attorney,
      Constitutional Law Instructor
      Carrollton , Texas

    111. FOREIGNER

      The stupid skank will go out and vote democrat again next time anyways

    112. FOREIGNER

      “You asked for it. Now bask in it.”

      I am loving this chirp 🙂

    113. brannon

      Its because of idiots like you who voted the same way twice, that we all have to PAY FOR IT PERSONALLY. THANK YOU so much…..Socialism sounds so good, doesnt it? Yeah….Reap what you sew, but we are all reaping what the fools have sewn, and its sad. Again thank you all for this….

    114. brannon

      Hey everyone, SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND, Ha…..Isnt that the original plan?


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