Deep State Operatives Attempt A Coup d’état Of Donald Trump

by | Jun 18, 2017 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Experts, Headline News | 118 comments

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    Presidential historian and author Doug Wead claims that the deep state, which has successfully overthrown the governments of foreign countries, is going to continue to actively seek a coup d’etat of the duly elected president of the United States.

    If there was ever a time in history to be concerned about another rise in communism, now is that time. Wead says that the deep state is determined to overthrow Donald Trump. The presidential historian refused to mince words, saying:

    We have very skilled, talented professionals. They’ve overthrown governments in Vietnam and the Philippines, in Iraq and Iran, in Egypt, in the Ukraine. Duly elected democratic governments. They created what they called “popular uprisings.

    Of course, we should expect nothing less from shadow governments. The very same people who work in the State Department, some of them in intelligence, and some of them in the media, have successfully caused uprisings in several other countries. They’ve worked together to overthrow foreign governments, and Wead believes Trump is a thorn in their side preventing a global takeover.

    The deep state has become somewhat of a mainstream topic of discussion since Trump’s election.  Before, it was more of a “conspiracy theory.”  But the goals of the deep state are simple: the complete enslavement of mankind by political elites. 

    They [republicans in congress] see themselves as “partners” with the Left in the same game: to establish an elitist politico-oligarchic ruling class, broken down into divisions throughout the globe for ethno-cultural manipulation, yet with the same end-state.  That goal is the enslavement and complete control of all of mankind with the elitists ensconced as the ruling moneyed class.  They see themselves as the educated, sensible minority with tender sensibilities and true humanistic views…who must…must…take a stand in the globalist crusade against the barbaric Neanderthals of the proletariat and populist serfs. –SHTFPlan

    The average IQ of an American has dropped 14 points over the past century and with the media actively peddling propaganda, there’s no need for anyone to desire their own mental and physical freedom.  In fact, we now hear the weakest members of society clamor for communism, as if they wouldn’t be the first the state “extinguishes” in the event that they succeed.  Communism preys on those who are producers and has little interest in those who actually desire it.

    It has been apparent to those not blinded by partisan politics that something is going on in the government right now, yet most simply call it a “witch hunt,” simply for lack of wanting to admit the deep state exists.  It certainly looks like a battle between democracy and the deep state. And we aren’t sure we’d put money on democracy at this point in history.

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      1. So, ‘f’ing bring it. I am so sick and tired of this s**t.
        It is written in Revelation many places. We will suffer and the rich/connected/elite/powerful/satan followers will always beat the serfs…always.
        But, be assured..the game ain’t over.

        There is no way to eliminate 6 billion people and clean up the carnage safely–there will be another way.
        Just 4 newly hatched dead birds in the truck for two days made a pretty bad-smelling area in the garage….imagine BILLIONS of dead bodies.

        • Speaking of the DEEP STATE SCUMBAGS, That has taken over nearly every aspect of American Culture to dismantle it, their ZZionistsZ shills that operate in the Sports division part of Cable TV also known as “ESPN” all owned and run by the (((Gews))) is now demanding that the American “National Anthem” no longer be played at NFL football games or any other US Sporting event.

          “HAD ENOUGH OF THESE PARASITES DESTROYING AMERICA FOLKS?”

          That’s right, this is (((ZZionistZ))) Football now you you Americans are our slaves.

          Outrage! ESPN wants the national anthem stopped at sporting events
          06-17-2017 • Horn News
          Is loving America a political statement? According to ESPN “First Take” co-host Max Kellerman it is — and he doesn’t want it played at NFL games.

          On Thursday morning’s broadcast, Kellerman told his audience that he thought the NFL was injecting politics into football for playing The Star Spangled Banner before kickoff.

          Really!?
          YEP!!!! ESPN reporter: ‘National Anthem is too political for the NFL’ [video]

          And they are going to Ban Hotdogs and start serving cream filled Bagels instead. (JUST KIDDING ON THAT, BUT YOU GET THE POINT) ITS A SOFT COUP AGAINST AMERICAN CULTURE AND OUR HISTORY AND HERITAGE.

          Link: https://thehornnews.com/espn-reporter-national-anthem-political-nfl-video/

          Wouldn’t want to hurt the feeling of the Muslim Kaepernick who took a knee, and refused to stand for the National Anthem.

          • The people whose lives revolve around ball games will not even notice.

          • I don’t even get sports channels and have no interest in them.

            There are some rabid sports nuts around. Someone in my fair city actually named their child “Espn” (ESPN, pronounced “esspin”). The poor boy is going to have to spell his name for everyone the rest of his life.

        • “I have always found it strange that the Left wants to shoot at us (posted after Rep. Scalise was shot and almost killed by a Bernie Sanders supporter) and disarm us at the same time.”

          Want a hero? Watch this woman interrupt that fascist left Ceasar play in NY. There ARE still heroes around today, and this is one!!! https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jennifervanlaar/2017/06/17/protester-arrested-after-running-onstage-during-controversial-julius-caesar-performance-n2342605?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad= Pass it on!

        • many mayors have violated the paris accord nullification by djt and implementing 2030 agendas anyway. Many many local counties and small towns across america are doing the same thing. Even when you have elected commissioners they are under the direction of metropolitan planners anyway. The municipalities are accepting fed dot monies that require a planning director. the directors are not elected but required for the continued acceptance of the funding.
          i investigated locally and that is what i have found. i followed the docs and under dot is obama’s exec orders!
          the deep state is in every gov office from local all the way up.
          Our GOV has been USURPED!
          Go check the records in your municipality. Mine even has a logo similar to obama’s, its sickening. folks in attendance at the county meetings are distracted by the dog and pony power point shows to see beyond what is being presented. the power point is laid out in topic headings found directly from agenda 2030. it is amazing to what the looks on the faces of people as i scanned the room.
          the bastard previous potus is still implementing his agenda via elected and non elected officials.

        • This was a bullshit report. When has Iran been overthrown??? Same regiegm as it has always been. Yes will the deep state fuck the world!!!! I know they will. It will be fast and bad. I am sure most on this channel have a chance. But if civil war happens first I will be on the front lines with my brothers sisters and all to try and make it mean something again to say I am American

          • The government of Iran was overthrown and the Shaw was put in its place. Better Google it. I think the coup was in 1953.

      2. The Deep State wants to scour Trump’s tax returns and all of his records to find something that they can charge him with. They want Trump to provide ammunition for them to accuse him with. Would you expect the Congressmen hiding in the dug-out to provide their would-be assassin, Hodgkinson,with ammunition to kill them with? Just like you wouldn’t give an assault rifle to a chimpanzee, Trump shouldn’t give them anything!

        • Want to end the Deep State???, Kick every Gew out of America like Russia did. That’s right I said it. Kick AIPAC out of DC, Kick the MSM Gews out of Broadcasting. its the only way. Kick them out of Hollywood, They are all there in place to dismantle and destroy America. And Where the F*ck is G Soros that POS commie. Kill the Mfcker.

      3. Americans either cheered the use of its military against people that did noting to us or we’re in denial that the US has covertly overthrown Democratically elected and popular governments throughout the world. The propaganda that the USA wears a white hat when in reality its quite soiled was bought line hook and sinker. When the indigenous population of these nations benefitted by US intervention it was far more the fallout of the power grab for the globalists but not the intent as can be seen in Central America. Now many Americans are in denial that its happening here.

        Its difficult to get someone to see who is far more comfortable keeping their eyes closed and to remain in propagandized ignorant bliss.

        • Kevin2,

          Very well said. Most people believe what they are told to believe on the nightly mainstream news and if they are told that everything that the U.S. does is done with good intentions then they believe every word… because they want to believe.

        • Kevin2, what you say is sad but true. it’s now the USA’s turn to experience a coup. It doesn’t change my position one bit. Communism is no good for anyone. I will still fight.

          • If they try to impeach him all he needs do is call on the NRA to come to DC. 5,000,000 people with guns might just change some minds. If not, plenty of trees and light poles in that town.

            • Paranoid, damn right. Hell, the libturds were talking about impeachment even BEFORE Inauguration Day. If there’s one thing the left knows how to do, it’s talking trash. But like you said, a certain percentage of gun owners can go to town and ‘take out the trash’.

          • The Deplorable Braveheart

            This coup has nothing to do with communism. This is pure fascism, government not just in collusion but controlled by globalist multi national business and financial interests. Totalitarianism comes in many forms and its not a synonym for communism which is totalitarian but has government controlling business not the other way around.

            • Communism, Socialism, Fascism, etc. are all just varying degrees of Statism…….i.e….the totalitarian control of the many by the few.

              I call it Neo-Feudalism……because if they are successful, the condition of the world will be much like it was during the dark ages.

              • Wrong. Communism is communes-has nothing to do with a state. Socialism is profits go to the state to be redistributed. Fascism all profits go to private hands. Simple enough for you?

            • Kevin2, no matter what label they put on it, their agenda is wrong for this country and I’m fighting it.

              • What the public sees are they symptom of totalitarianism / statism. Unfortunately while determined to fight it, if its source is not identified, the body politic can inadvertently support it. An example is the blind support for US foreign military actions that many who identify with conservatism support not realizing that its not WWII part three but rather a globalist corporate use of US forces for their agenda. It was well summed up in the book, “War Is A Racket” written by two time MOH recipient USMC Major General Smedley Butler.

                “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

                • Well said.

            • We Patriots are needed like at no other time in this nation’s history, since the first revolution. If we don’t support our president, our entire cause will be lost. If the Hildebeast had got in, the final screws would have been installed in liberty’s coffin, by these Leftist control freaks and their street goons.

              There is so much demonic fury and energy behind their drive to unseat Trump that this must be a Luciferian initiative. All the occult orders that the top deep state cats belong to are united in their opposition to freedom.

              Their starting point is rebellion, and their followers are the whiners and rebels of society, trained by all the class warfare in their polemics to resent everything that is good. They teach their followers that good is bad and bad is good, slavery is freedom and freedom is slavery.

              There is no reasoning with these freaks, they cannot be placated or staisfied, they will never ever stop, and they taste victory in the air. The backs of Patriots, freedom-lovers, constitutionalists, libertarians, christians everywhere are against the wall. It is zero hour, the very hour the great watchmen of the past have warned us about for decades, is upon us now.

              Molon Labe!

        • The Gews took a page out of the American Play book and are doing to the Palestinians what the new settlers aka: invader land squatters, did in America to the Native Americans. Stole their land, killed their people and demonized them as savages and terrorists when they tried to protect what was theirs. Sounds pretty familiar as to what’s going on in Palestine today? You bet. And the Whole World is Watching. And doing nothing.

          • The smaller tribes allied with us for protection from the torturous exterminating larger tribes. So we helped them . They married our men and now are lost. They would tear you apart for entertainment . Read about Matilda Lockhart , or olive oatman. Or what happened to white women captured by Indians . We didn’t do that to the good ones . They have gambling an their own land .even though they have shit on it.

          • “Native Americans”? If it was’nt for the Ice Age, they would still be in Mongolia, and the descendants of the people who were here before them might still be alive. No tears for strangers.

          • So much hatred for the Jews.

            Hitler would be so proud.

          • Well they were pretty backwards. They didn’t even have the wheel or written language. And they were killing each other long before we came here.

            • way to spout the slave lies and propaganda like a good slave.

        • Operation: Pull the Wool over Their Eyes”

      4. Tribe Elders,Kings,High Priests​, Seniters, Industrial gaints, Dictators,and now Meglamaineacts. Yep (spell check is off) and the only way to deal with these monsters is what we always do last. They know it that is why they try to keep the shepeaple as calm as long as possible. Divert,hide and blame everything on something other than themselves. It always ends the same there own blood list is what they get,only when we have had enough and will not give them one more chance or be compassionate or stop falling for it’s those guys that are the ones we need to go to war.
        We always use blood letting last,some want it first but it is always a nice guy who became’s the next Dictator and we are all know what that means. The same play with different faces and same old bloody results. How do we end this how do we stop the cycle of villainy by staying awake and watching those every move.
        Time for all political (insert favorite term here) to Ware body Cam’s with sound and have ankal bracelets. But it still will end the same way we just get more time to hide the women and children.

      5. Yes governments are overthrown despite the will of the people as most don’t know, don’t care or don’t care to know. They in Goebbels fashion believe the loudest voice. Money buys megaphones.

        • OOPS link

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        • Kevin2,

          I am sincerely interested in how you would describe the American revolution, the French revolution, the overthrow of President Marcos, the Shah of Iran, the Vietnamese revolution under Uncle Ho, the Chinese revolution led by Mao, the Bolshevic revolution, the non-violent overthrow of the Brits by Gandhi, etc. Governments change all the time. We saw a major revolution in this country last November, even if it may not be thought of as a revolution, there were some major players who were dressed for the part! You seem to always be pressing an angle or view often pursued by people on the left like Naom Chomsky of MIT fame.

          Louisiana Eagle

          • US Revolution was ground up.

            French Revolution was ground up.

            Marcos, a corrupt piece of shit. When the US no longer needed the Philippines the money quit flowing. That was the catalyst.

            Shah Of Iran, pent up anger from the 1953 CIA coup, he was not a democratically elected leader. The catalyst of Islamic Fundamentalism set it off.

            Vietnam, French anti colonial, US took the wrong side, Ho Chi Minh could have been Tito.

            China Mao, starving people listen to anyone with the promise of the potential of food. China is a prime example of capitalism done wrong.

            Bolshevik Revolution, largely the outgrowth of anti WWI Russian participation. The communists took advantage of the discontent.

            Gandhi in India, revolution done right, inapplicable against a true totalitarian nation, would not have worked against NAZIs or Stalin.

            ” We saw a major revolution in this country last November,”

            We all grumbling of the masses. Time will tell regarding how successful it will be. It doesn’t look too good at this point.

            Simply put you can’t screw the masses forever without repercussions. If you think the US supports democracy your deluding yourself. They support the furthering of the globalist agenda. If it comes with a quasi veneer of democracy to placate the masses fine. If it requires a strong arm thug that works too.

            • The US Revolution was 1/3 Tory, 1/3 Patriot, 1/3 we’ll side with the winner.

              • The more terror the British inflicted upon their Colonial Subjects the stronger the Patriot movement became. The US governance of post war Japan was MacAuthor’s crowning achievement not Inchon. The Marshall Plan was likewise.

                Unregulated capitalism eats itself as Frick showed with US Steel.

      6. Yellowstone earthquake swarm hits entire park, more than 60 on Friday alone
        —-“Earthquakes as big as 5.0 were recorded on USGS censors placed throughout the Yellowstone region.”

        “The U.S. is currently under contract with at least 4 countries all of which have agreed to house displaced U.S. citizens in the unfortunate event the Yellowstone supervolcano were to erupt.

        Hundreds of billions of dollars were paid to foreign governments to facilitate the agreement which spans a ten year period from its signing, ending in 2024.”

        ht tps://www.intellihub.com/yellowstone-earthquake-swarm-hits-entire-park-more-than-60-on-friday-alone/

      7. Yellowstone earthquake swarm hits entire park, more than 60 on Friday alone
        —“Earthquakes as big as 5.0 were recorded on USGS censors placed throughout the Yellowstone region.”

        “The U.S. is currently under contract with at least 4 countries all of which have agreed to house displaced U.S. citizens in the unfortunate event the Yellowstone supervolcano were to erupt.

        Hundreds of billions of dollars were paid to foreign governments to facilitate the agreement which spans a ten year period from its signing, ending in 2024.”

        ht tps://www.intellihub.com/yellowstone-earthquake-swarm-hits-entire-park-more-than-60-on-friday-alone/

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        • Comments seem to be coming through but being auto-held by AKISMET comment filter system in our queue.

          Sorry for the trouble — will look into it.

          Thanks!

          Mac

          • Mac, my posts are going through a lot better. Must have something to do with me changing my browser and email account. I haven’t even gone into moderation lately.

          • Mac,

            I apologize this came through multiple times. After I entered the information, it disappeared. Please delete the multiple posts.

            Thank you!
            KY Mom

          • There is a typo in the first sentence of this article. The word “dually” should be “duly”. The reason I bring it to your attention is that things like that are used to discredit alternative media. Thanks!

            • Thanks Jim — Fixed! Missed that in my final edit.

        • Maybe it was the spelling of “censors” instead of “sensors” that triggered it.

      9. Yellowstone earthquake swarm hits entire park, more than 60 on Friday alone

        “Earthquakes as big as 5.0 were recorded on USGS censors placed throughout the Yellowstone region.”

        “The U.S. is currently under contract with at least 4 countries all of which have agreed to house displaced U.S. citizens in the unfortunate event the Yellowstone supervolcano were to erupt.

        Hundreds of billions of dollars were paid to foreign governments to facilitate the agreement which spans a ten year period from its signing, ending in 2024.”

        Intelhub

        • KY Mom didnt even mention Gews or T r i b e one time, and was put into moderation. Try the word Cockroach?

          • Dude, you really have no life. YOU are the COCKroach.

      10. Yellowstone earthquake swarm hits entire park, more than 60 on Friday alone
        —“Earthquakes as big as 5.0 were recorded on USGS censors placed throughout the Yellowstone region.”

        “The U.S. is currently under contract with at least 4 countries all of which have agreed to house displaced U.S. citizens in the unfortunate event the Yellowstone supervolcano were to erupt.

        Hundreds of billions of dollars were paid to foreign governments to facilitate the agreement which spans a ten year period from its signing, ending in 2024.”

        ht tps://www.intellihub.com/yellowstone-earthquake-swarm-hits-entire-park-more-than-60-on-friday-alone/

      11. Eventually they may succeed.

        Let us hope not. I do not believe this person is a divider of people it is just that the evil of the left has been revealed.

        Barak Obama had an evil administration.

        They refer to him as Lord of the flies. During his administration the White House was hindered by an invasion of Flies and often during interviews, he had to swipe at them as they continuously tried to set on his lips or near his mouth. Whatever, procedure was tried, the flies could never be eradicated. Filth, dead decomposing bodies and yes food attracts flies.

        I believe Donald Trump’s administration will wipe out all
        the mess of The Obama Administration and it will be as if he was almost never the President, other than what we have in Photographs.

        • LMAO must have been the watermelon breath or the Knottyhead Gin at lunch.

          • Or Michelle’s dirty man parts.

      12. We have come undone.
        When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another ……That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government…. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government….
        We are not experiencing a peaceful transition of power. These are noble words but know your place peasant, just try it. You are too late. Do you care enough to disagree?

        • Grandpa,

          Louisiana Eagle ? is confused! Are you saying the never Trumpers have a right to overthrow Presisent Trump? I guess a civil war will be inevitable!

          Louisiana Eagle ?

          • The question is does the deep state have the right to overthrow the government. They have usurped it at least. While we continue to debate left and right there is a third party involved here. One that assumes and never is elected. It is their sentiment that I reflect and reject.

            • Thanks for clarifying your post, Grandpa, It is worrisome that there is a powerful group of people known as the ‘deep state’ who are not accountable to the people but to some other entity living in the shadows.

              Louisiana Eagle

      13. The left is definitely on board as are the “never Trumpers” It is world wide and will not end well.

        • Republicans are included in that too. Graham and McCain , and others. There will be hell. Waiting

        • Jim what is your opinion regarding what BigBlueDrew stated on a previous post:

          “The left has been strategically positioning there pieces on the board for 50 years. They are ready to strike, there really is nothing we can do at this point to stop them, that ship has sailed. All one can do at this point is survive. IMO they will lose control of the little revolution they have planned. Evil men have attempted world domination as long as there have been men, and always ultimately failed. The trick is surviving the failure, it will require preparation AND luck.”

          I read a great article that looked at societies and cultures that fought against unwinnable odds and were destroyed /completely massacred. Others tribes submitted and eventually the threat collapsed in due time. Communism ALWAYS collapses, but the question is; How many Billions will die before it does? Also, being a straight white male, I don’t like my chances!

          But how can we fight against an opponent that Russia cannot defeat, not with conventional arms. We are dealing with something that they have been planning for a long time and they are at the one yard line.

          • Justice, I agree with bigBlueDrew’s post totally. I also believe they’ll lose control and be defeated. The odds are NOT in their favor. Just a whole bunch of ‘useful idiots’ getting killed for nothing.

          • How can we fight? Here’s a hint: technology.

            Research and learn all you can.

            • Like in the movie, “Independence Day”?

      14. If you look back in reality at what the US government has done since 1953, you cannot deny this country, the USA, is a tyrannical evil entity. This condition of tyranny has run rampant right under the noses of the American people without even a whimper, until now. The Deep State has orchestrated its efforts towards total control of this world very effectively. I admit I never before questioned our governments actions throughout the years; I trusted they were doing what was right. In the last years since 1996-97(Bill Clinton/NAFTA), I began to be concerned about the path our country was taking. (Pres. Bush/Twin Towers) Now since 2008(Obama years/totally treasonous ), our government’s blatant misdeeds have come to light without even really trying to hide their true colors; yet still there are Americans who still have their eyes closed and refuse to believe their government is out to destroy the Republic and its Constitution. It’s like sexual child abuse, it’s an act so horrible no one wants to believe anything so evil could actually happen. There’s been so much come to light,(atrocities of experiments on their own solders included) You wonder how someone can not put together the evidence and realize our Government is capable of any despicable act you can imagine……..even nuking its own people in pursuant of complete power and control of said people. The Deep State is now in the process of usurping a dually elected president. When and if they succeed, the only hope then will be a war to re-instate the Constitutional Republic. These Satans of the Deep State do not care about the people, you are not equal to them, and you are only worthy of servitude. The witch hunt begins with one outcome desired by the Deep State…….usurp Trump’s Presidency. Waiting

        • The takeover from within began over a century ago, in 1913. Every act since then has been to solidify, and entrench power gains, nothing more. Even your “good wars” were fought to save and expand bolshevism, no other reason.

          The people who have been working to take over from within have made no real effort to hide their motives and/or goals. The reason they have made such progress, is that you have had the freedom to believe that everything was O.K.

          People need to quit thinking this just happened in the last 50 years. For decades. people have been trying to warn not just Americans, but the rest of Western Civilization, about what is going right under their noses. It was a waste of time. Just like this post.

      15. Jim in VA, it won’t end well for the left. The people spoke loud and clear last Nov. 8. We don’t want Hillary, nor the communist agenda, PERIOD. The left are just ‘useful idiots’ for the deep state. The deep state is setting the stage for its own demise.

        • How will their demise come to be? If we cannot clean up this deep state mess others will. I feel that the next global mischief by the deep state will be met with a measure of displeasure. It is time to rush that stage DB.

          • The voters spoke at the ballot box and may have to back it up with powder and shot at some point. The left and some in the right need to move aside or get run over to make way for serious folks that are tired of nothing getting done and being disenfranchized from the decisions being made by politicians who have made their profession a career. We have too many problems overseas to deal with to fool with the local crap that is bring us down. Its time for a major reset in priorities and whether we want to remain a viable country.

            • Jim in VA, I agree and I EXPECT to have to back it up with firepower. That day is coming. All of the opposition needs to move aside so we can save this country. We need all of the military brought home to help out. I don’t care what happens overseas. all I care about is my own country. The opposition needs to be careful what they wish for.

        • The Deplorable Braveheart

          “We don’t want Hillary, nor the communist agenda, PERIOD.”

          Trump won because of the evisceration of US manufacturing jobs with NAFTA (which became the euphemism for all of it) and China Free Trade. Hillary’s caviler attitude regarding it along with Bill being the signatory put the former Democrat rust belt voters in Trumps camp. If Sanders won he likely would have beaten Trump as both had a general similarity in both trade and foreign affairs. The Second Amendment, Illegal Immigration, Extreme Vetting were collectively too small of an issue separating them.

          I know Union Members that while gun owners voted their perceived wallet for decades believing that in the end the Democrats would give them a better shake. The Democrats hid their support / contribution for the great US job loss with Bill Clinton. The word finally got out and I seen disbelief across their faces that turned to anger against Hillary. I seen UAW workers, a most pro Democrat militant bunch that one could politically find willing to walk over hot coals for Trump because of this issue.

          Ann Colter said that if Pence had got on the border fence issue he would have been President instead of Trump. She just doesn’t get it. Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and so many more voted for one issue, good jobs, period.

          • Kevin2, I’m not even questioning your points; all good and valid. If I got a label for the agenda wrong, my apologies. It’s still not a GOOD agenda for this country. I always appreciate your insight and what you do here. I’d like to see some good jobs in this country again but that still remains to be seen.

            • ” I’d like to see some good jobs in this country again ”

              Its much larger than that because its absence has been replaced with the creation of money requiring the use of the military to keep nations using it as was seen in Iraq and Libya. We’re living in an economic lie, a slight of hand card game analogy to once working for a living then deciding to become a professional gambler. Each day requires more lies.

      16. What is good for the goose is good for the gander … The America people have been very ok with the CIA killing off democracy world wide – now its your turn…

        • bob

          They honed those skills in post WWII Europe and Asia. No one cared to know about it even if it was just a few books away. Two cars, nice home, solid future, games on, beer is in the fridge, life is good. Fast forward three decades and surprise, surprise; how did this happen? Well they were politically lazy and that fostered ignorance. They trusted the government to look out for them despite the warnings of the Founding Fathers. Government in the absence of good watchdogs did what they always do everywhere throughout history. They looked out for themselves at everyones expense.

          None of this is new or modern.

          • Kevin: Getting warm on the who, what, when, why, where.
            THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THINGS….
            “There is nothing new under the sun” and this was all planned and this play book has been used over and over, Lenin, Stalin, Mousilini, Hitler, Mao and…..
            However ‘NOTHING IS FOREVER” so the deep state that has been in control for the last 50 years – all be it from behind the scene is being exposed and running scared.
            Remember what Hillary confessed in one of her emails – “If that fu-k-ing bastard wins we will all hang from nooses”. Truer words were never spoken.
            They are going down, the entire lot; so keep the faith!!

            All of the noise from the left is to avoid the real issue – at least 40-50% of Congress is involved one way or another in PEDOGATE and they’re scared as Trump and Sessions quietly clean house. And as for Loretta Lynch, Donna Brazile, Debbie Wasserman, John Cain and the like – they’re toast and they know it!!!!!!
            So to all on this site – think the end of deep state collectively and watch what happens. THOUGHTS ARE THINGS AND WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT COMES ABOUT!!!!!!!!!

      17. If the deep state stages a coup, they will have a civil war on their hands. It’s that simple.
        Lets do some quick math. There are approximately 100,000,000 gun owners in the United States possessing approximately 300,000,000 weapons of various types and calibers. If one percent of these gun owners stood up and said we’re not having this, that would be an army of a million pissed off American patriots, many of whom have extensive military training and backgrounds marching on the capitol. But I’m afraid in reality, one percent would be a very conservative estimate. If they overthrew the legally elected president, the president we sent in to clean up the rotten cesspool that is DC, a lot more than one percent of the population would have a problem with that. Consider the constituency. This isn’t your grandfathers republican party. The peaceful transition of power from one administration to the next is one of the traditions that makes America exceptional. It is a tradition that has gone on unhindered since Washington passed power on to Adams. What we’re seeing here is far from that. What we’re seeing here is an unhinged left and hysterical media working together to try to sabotage a presidency. People are asking is Alexandria our generations Lexington or Concord moment. No, not yet. But if things don’t change, and change fast, it’s coming. And with rioting season right around the corner…….After rioting season comes October, the month stock markets crash and the Fed is raising interest rates despite a stagnant economy. If a market correction happens, all hell will break lose. The debt bubble is huge and the market is so over valued it’s not even real anymore. Should be an interesting year. Hope you’re well prepared because the time is coming and it’s coming fast.

        • A dose of reality, welcome, and truer words were never spoken.

        • “If the deep state stages a coup, they will have a civil war on their hands. It’s that simple”

          Don’t be silly, the first coup was JFK’s assassination, then his brothers, son, etc. (Not the first, but first in modern times)

          Those serving within our governments commit crimes against our nation and even treason a LOT, maybe not daily, but darn close. They are under the US Constitution as their supreme CONTRACT to which they are also Oath bound.

          Then consider that all (US) military are bound to the US Constitution that they are REQUIRED to “support and defend” it above and before orders of superiors of any rank – if any, and before the duties of the position they occupy. Same for ALL Law Enforcement – state and federal. Yet, NONE of them, and add a lot – if not most – of the American people have ever read that document in our modern day. None of them recognizes unlawful orders when slapped in the face with them.

          None of the people understand that just bothering to KNOW, to actually READ the US Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and their OWN state’s Constitution would make a difference. They do not realize that factions (political parties) were created long ago to bring our nation down, allow foreign intrigue into our governments – and they have done that well.

          Thomas Jefferson: ‘With respect to our State and federal governments, I do not think their relations correctly understood by foreigners. They generally suppose the former subordinate to the latter. But this is not the case. They are co-ordinate departments of one simple and integral whole. To the State governments are reserved all legislation and administration, in affairs which concern their own citizens only, and to the federal government is given whatever concerns foreigners, or the citizens of other States; these functions alone being made federal. The one is the domestic, the other the foreign branch of the same government; neither having control over the other, but within its own department. There are one or two exceptions only to this partition of power.”

          All people here are equal under the Law. What does that mean? Except for what immunities are named in the US Constitution, there are NO IMMUNITIES from their actions – candidates, those serving, military, etc.

          WE do NOT even recognize when those serving within our governments commit crimes against our nation, against the American people BECAUSE most do not know what those contracts require of them.

          The US Constitution and the framers tells us what is lawful, and what we are to do when they are NOT lawful. It tells us that no powers were delegated to any person, they were delegated to the branches and to named offices within a branch – those that serve within those positions are ALLOWED to use that authority as long as the keep the contract.

          Daniel Webster: “We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land – nor, perhaps, the sun or stars. But there is a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey. That chart is the Constitution.”

          Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 33: “…If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard [The Constitution] they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify….”

          Thomas Jefferson: “When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”

          • You’re really going to compare 1963 to 2017? Really? I hate to tell you this but that’s like comparing apples to elephants on so many levels it’s not even worth addressing. We live in a powder keg, man. Wake up or become a casualty. You can quote the Federalist Papers all you’d like to and you can parrot some flowery Jeffersonian phrases as well but it doesn’t change the reality of the situation we live in right now, today. People in law enforcement and the military are a lot smarter and considerably more cognizant than you give them credit for. Clearly, you’re not connected with either community in any way. Don’t sell us short. We’ll surprise you every time.
            You don’t even address the elephant in the room which is the looming month of October and the inevitable stock market crash. Guess what happens when the supply chain breaks down? Most Americans don’t have enough food in their house to eat for a week. Anarchy in the streets. Venezuela but on a much, much larger and far more dangerous scale.
            You keep reading the Federalist Papers. Let me know how that works out for you.

        • No civil war. All will return to their current TV broadcast,

          • PO,
            If you take out the MSM pundits, you don’t need a civil war.
            No MSM news is good news, most LIVs don’t know how to find information on the Internet. They may even come across SHTF plan and learn something!

        • “If the deep state stages a coup”

          The coup will have all of the trappings of legality, all of the illusion of law. The media will support it 100%. The public, still eating the next day, still driving a car, largely still with a home will be divided and for the most part have water cooler conversations of both anger and joy.

          Nothing at all will happen. Life will go on.

          • Kevin2, I’d like to think it would still be business as usual, but my instincts tell me otherwise. Let’s all hope there’s NO coup at all.

      18. ***NEWS FLASH***

        Gallup has him at 57% disapproval / 38% approval.

        Quinnipiac 56% disapproval / 34% disapproval.

        YouGov has him at 52% disapprove / 39% approval.

        Ipsos has him at 56% disapproval.

        However, although Fox/Rasmussen are the only ones claiming it’s equally 50-50, at least there’s that.

        • Anonymous1, NEVER trust what polls say.

          • I’ve been phone polled once or twice.
            I sit, drink my beer, and, always
            mislead them.

            • lololol, rellik – I can’t stop laughing, your post is too funny. And, good for you!

            • Yes, rellik, very mature.

              You’re about as emotionally mature as tweetin’-up-a-storm vindictive Trump.

              The normal and mature adult thing to do is to answer the question honestly OR tell the caller you’re not interested in participating and decline to respond and hang up.

              FYI, that’s what normal, mature grown-ups do.

      19. Grandpa, you hit the nail right on the head and it will be MORE than a measure of displeasure.

        • I wonder if anyone other than us delorables knows where that Commie document he was reading from, came from? Nah not the snowflakes.

          • A 241 year old engine may be restarted but only if it has been well preserved. Time to take a head off and see if its corroded inside.

            • Good or bad it’s got more support than it had 241 years ago Was born in blood and misery. So be it.

      20. I have noted in my town the flow of young moslem men passing through who act very guilty of something. Each group is obviously very security aware. Checking out the store like a security detachment before others enter it or walking in front and in back of those they are protecting in groups of six each. Thats alot of security. something is going on. these are the ones I have noted and I am not always in town. They are well trained and organized. Wake up to a new dawn of jihad here

      21. Perhaps the deep state is merely pretending to abhor Donald Trump. After all, he is President. And really, they could easily lie to us about election results.

        To me, I think the United States is so far under the control of these Rothschilds, Adleson’s and Company that we peons are pretty much screwed. But not completely. We can create jobs and products and exchange goods among ourselves. The more we help each other, the stronger we become; and the more irrelevant the deep state becomes. The revolution needs to start with a revolutionary change of attitude toward each other. Buy American. Make something I can use.

        __

        • Exactly.

          By the way, most do not know it anymore though it used to be well known by all. Americans can withhold money from those who serve within our governments – Color of Law, pretend law is the only laws that are against those actions and are enforced by the ignorant who assist in their actions against the people and the US Constitution in the destruction of our nation. Little realizing that they too will be allowed to own nothing, and that is if they are allowed to live if we lose our legitimate government – history shows us that they and the useful idiots are destroyed first as they find out how badly they were betrayed.

      22. The soddomites are fighting back. Go Trump.

      23. Yes but how do you spot a ultra liberal ?99% are driving forign cars because they hate America . Isn’t it obvious.? So let’s get the party started?no more pick and choose. Is on. Keep the faith.

        • Please don’t mistake me for a liberal because I drive a foreign car, I inherited it. Only 76,000 miles on it, and paid for. Waiting

      24. All we can do is prep and wait . Our time will come . As written the foolish virgins will burn with the Tares. So be it. Our redemption comes soon .

        • Sorry dude your/our time has come and gone. That train left the station decades ago along with the Almighty’s blessings.

          • I would concur. the USA is not the Star Wars rebellion, we are the empire. This empire is guilty of great sin against the Lord. He is not mocked…the church has compromised itself with the world. 60 million dead babies…our sins of the nation are stacked to the heavens. If God rescues us, we must repent and return back to Him, to Jesus and His laws.

      25. Drove by the latest puerile “Love Trumps Hate” yard sign today. Apparently, these people are not bright enough of figure out who just tried to KILL a bunch of people practicing for a CHARITY baseball game.

        The reason the left is as they are is simple: the elevators just don’t go all the way to the top floor in their cliche-addled noggins.

        • TEST, the buildings that contain those elevators must’ve been condemned by code enforcement, LOL!

        • TEST

          “The reason the left is as they are is simple: the elevators just don’t go all the way to the top floor in their cliche-addled noggins.”

          Personal observation shows me that the statement, “Liberals see what they believe, conservatives believe what they see” has significant truth. They desire something and imagine it occurring never getting to the difficult points of how. Communism demanded that bread be X price but its input in labor and material was X+. The reality was a shortage. A conservative try’s to figure out a more efficient way to make bread thus to make money but in the end therefore more is produced. This works up until you get crony capitalism / neoconservatives who are the butcher who put his thumb on the scale.

      26. Trump is nothing more than a continuation of Reagan, poppy Bush, Clinton, G.W. Bush and Obama. All controlled by globalists as the military arm of the advancing NWO. Murderers one and all in Zionist occupied America. What country does not have a Rothschild controlled bank, North Korea, Russia, China, Syria and Iran I believe. This nations decline is moving along smoothly with barely a hiccup noted. It’s not one side against the other by chance. Trump is squarely deep in the Israeli pocket. Anything else is just an illusion to advance and attain the current desired result. The majority are easily manipulated as if in a trance.

      27. The moderation has nothing to do with “not recognizing your IP address or email address”. It’s more likely “trusted user” translates to acceptable words.

        • BINGO! You’ll receive your cupie doll shortly.

          • PO,
            Not to be picky but isn’t that “Kewpie” doll?
            As for moderation I have yet to figure that one out.
            I try to keep it clean, even though it is against my
            nature, but I get tossed in to moderation periodically.
            It has to be some “bug” in the filter SHTFplan uses.

      28. Leftist Millenarianism

        The heart of socialism is that a class of people – trained in the esoteric sciences only available at leftist schools – can (as Michael K Beran writes) “through the beneficent exercise of extraordinary coercive powers, create purer and more ideal communities.” That they have never done this in that past – and in fact created hell on earths in places as disparate as Cuba, Zimbabwe, Cambodia, the USSR, Mao’s China, Venezuela, Kirchner’s Argentina – is of no consequence, and “this time is different.”

        Further, Wittaker Chambers – who woke up and abandoned the left he originally embraced – noted that the left offered “what nothing else in the dying world had power to offer at the same intensity – faith and a vision, something for which to live and something for which to die… (the leftist religion demanded) “those things which have always stirred what is best in men – courage, self-sacrifice, discipline, intelligence,” and which offered people an heroic escape form the desperation of middle class childhoods. Never mind the fact that leftism has never worked, cannot work, and will never work; never mind the fact that everyone can never live off of everyone else. Never mind that there is simply no way to gauge the price of anything (which is why the USSR fell, ultimately). This is a radical, un-verifiable religion not based in fact (as opposed to the historically verifiable fact of Christ’s resurrection, which is available for anyone to examine – such as Simon Greeleaf).

        As Trotsky said, “As long as I breathe I hope. As long as I breathe I shall fight for the future, that radiant future, in which man, strong and beautiful, will become master of the drifting stream of his history and will direct it towards the boundless horizons of beauty, joy and happiness! (“On Optimism and Pessimism, on the Twentieth Century, and on Many Other Things” (1901), as quoted in The Prophet Armed : Trotsky, 1879-1921 (2003) by Isaac Deutscher , p. 45).

        That Trotsky’s “radiant future” of communism – which un-radiance murdered 100 million people last century per Oxford University Press’ The Black Book of Communism, and impoverished a billion more – is a demonstrable failure and logical impossibility, is no matter. There’s always more gullible people to drink the leftist Kool-aide of emotion-driven ignorance!

      29. Truth: Deep State =Most powerful and evilest people in the world. Why in the hell is there such an concerted effort to take down President Donald Trump when there is zero evidence and zero proof of him or his administration colluding with the Russians, or obstructing justice? There’s evidence HRC colluded with Russia, but you don’t see anyone pursuing an investigation into her activities. Also James Comey’s own testimony shows AG Loretta Lynch was involved in obstruction of justice in relation to investigation of HRC’s crimes. There has never been in the history of this country, USA, a constant threat to a president as has been demonstrated by the evil now existing. Why, you ask is this on going day and night, 24 hours a day, for months now? I’ll tell you why……. it’s because President Trump is going after the most profitable black market industry in the world…..CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING. The Deep State managed to get rid of Mike Flynn, and now they’re after Sessions because he’s going after them. There have now been 6000 arrest for this, but you are not hearing about it. BTW Congressman Steve Scalise had recently made a video against human trafficking and child predators; also Scalise wants aerosol injections into our atmosphere to be stopped. Hummmmm. Trump has known about pedophile groups for years and has spoke out against it for years. There’s a video that shows AG sessions slapping away the hand of creepy Joe Biden from touching a little girl. Sessions has worked around Biden for years, you think he does not know who this man really is? Oh yes, Jessica Leeds who came forward to accuse Trump of inappropriately touching her on a plane 20 years ago, she has some interesting background. She’s best friends with HRC. And two of her immediate family members were convicted of sex trafficking in Palms Springs. This Child sex trafficking rabbit hole runs deep, very deep. It involves people very high up in all governments of the world, including our own here in the USA. It is estimated that if exposed it would probably take down one half of our government officials; and not to mention all of the other rich elite in business and banking. There has also been some alluding to the Seth Rich murder as being connected in some way to the pedophilia ring. These are very powerful people who do not want to be exposed for what they really are……MONSTERS! Just think about it, if they were exposed there probably would be no trial for alot of them, they would be strung up on the spot. This is the only reason the Deep State wants Trump out so badly, there is nothing else he could do that would cause such hysteria that is being displayed at this time. I read and heard that the Deep State has told Trump he can go after HRC, but he is to lay off the pedophile agenda. This is the trade off. Of course the Deep State has their other agendas too, but this one is the most damaging. Pray that Trump can succeed and save the children from a fate worse than death, torture and rape. Death would be a welcome relief from what these children are experiencing. Trump is not a god or a knight in shining armor, but I believe he really does want to stop this horrendous and diabolical acts against children. Waiting

      30. Let the race war begin. Better now then later.

      31. dually? Try duly elected.

      32. “Dually elected”? What the fuck does that mean?

      33. The US shoots down a Syrian military aircraft yesterday escalating the inevitable war with Russia, an event the fake news msm ignores. The majority of people can’t even recognize that their own government is the biggest threat to their own future existence. How can this be?

        • Mark Dice does man on the street interviews asking questions a 7th grade kid 50 years ago could handly answer. The dumbing down has worked, they don’t know, don’t care and don’t care to know. The entire view of the world is me, me, me. I think of a free thinking citizenry as a bit wild, they have now been domesticated like a farm animal, told where to go and when. The inevitable outcome can be seen in the refrigerated section of the grocery store.

      34. Trump REALLY needs some friends/colleagues on HIS side!!! Maybe he should call Paul Craig Roberts.

        • Trump started out in his campaign as a Paul Craig Roberts / David Stockman type but once in office he is morphing into the neo-con establishment. Syria is my measure and he is towing the globalist line. Are we still better off with him? Certainly as Hillary was beyond bad, bad people look at her and say, “Man she is bad news, corrupt and downright evil”.

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