Betrayal: How the REPUBLICANS Are Gutting the Second Amendment

by | Mar 23, 2018 | Headline News | 161 comments

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    This article was originally published by Daisy Luther at The Organic Prepper

    Everyone likes to blame the Democrats for gun control, but here’s a news flash: those of us who fervently believe in the Second Amendment are actually being betrayed by members of the Republican party who are in Congress right now. Bills on the table right now would gut our right to bear arms, and the Congress is controlled by Republicans.

    The spending bill that Congress hopes to pass is more than 2200 pages, according to Senator Rand Paul, who was outraged at being given less than a day to read the entire bill. Senator Paul live-tweeted his reading of the bill last night, and it’s a pretty safe bet that nobody else in Congress spent the evening reading it before they vote today.

    How the spending bill affects our Second Amendment rights

    In this budget bill are some insidious things that affect our Second Amendment rights.

    The bill revives an Obama-era restriction on firearms for senior citizens.

    Just before President Obama left office, his administration finalized new regulations banning Social Security recipients from buying a gun if they have trouble managing their finances.

    Using the Congressional Review Act, Republicans and two Democrats passed a bill overturning the regulation. But the bill did more than that. It also prevents any future president from reinstituting the ban without new legislative authorization from Congress.

    Unfortunately, the spending bill passed Thursday allows the ban to be reinstituted because it reauthorizes the 2007 National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) Improvement Amendments Act. This act allowed government agencies, not just the courts, to determine if someone is mentally incompetent to buy or possess a gun.

    House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions, R-Texas, said during testimony late Wednesday that he was “disturbed” that the bill would undo part of Republicans’ good work. But by Thursday morning, the House leadership had decided to go ahead with the measure. (source)

    And that’s not all.

    The bill funnels $50 million dollars into strict anti-gun organizations, namely the STOP School Violence Act, designed by the Sandy Hook Promise, which advocates extreme gun control.

    At the same time, the bill forbids the use of federal money for arming and training school staff. That’s right – our tax dollars will be put to work against us. And representatives that are supposed to be pro-gun are allowing it to happen.

    Finally, the bill will authorize the CDC to research “gun violence.” But the CDC has been allowed to research this for years, despite what you see to the contrary from the MSM. In 1996, the Dickey provision prohibited the CDC from using government funds to advocate or promote gun control.” There is no such provision in the current bill.

    It isn’t just Democrats who are passing this bill.

    This bill has passed the House by a vote of 256-167. The breakdown in the House of Representatives is 238 Republicans and 192 Democrats. If the Republicans were truly looking after our gun rights, as they like to advertise, this bill wouldn’t have passed the House.

    Today it will be going before the Senate, where 60 votes will be needed to pass it. The Senate has 51 Republicans and 47 Democrats, which means that if it passes, the “pro-gun” Republicans have betrayed their constituents yet again.

    Here’s what happens next:

    Thursday afternoon, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell moved to end debate on the bill, triggering a 30-hour window senators can use to discuss it.

    The debate time could be shortened if Paul and other senators unanimously agree to do so but it was unclear how far Paul would go to press his point.

    If the whole 30-hour time is used, the earliest the Senate could vote to advance the so-called “omnibus” bill would be 1 a.m. Saturday morning.

    The Senate would then have to wait even longer before taking any final vote to pass it. (source)

    If (when) this revolting turn of events occurs and the bill is passed by the Senate, the President will most likely sign it according to White House budget director Mick Mulvaney.

    “In order to get the defense spending primarily, (and) all the rest of our priorities funded, we had to give away a lot of stuff that we didn’t want to give away,” Mulvaney said. (source)

    And that’s not all.

    The spending in this bill is truly obscene. You’d think an American budget would be focused on American interests, right?

    Senator Paul tweeted these highlights lowlights.


    If you voted Republican to protect your 2A rights, you were betrayed.

    The long and the short of this?

    • Who you vote for doesn’t matter.
    • Having more Republicans than Democrats in Congress doesn’t matter.
    • Our system is broken, and what you think about it doesn’t matter.

    As long as our government passes bills with thousands of pages instead of single item bills, the public will continue to be betrayed and deceived. Those who believe that voting Republican will ensure their continued right to protect themselves have been deceived and until we refuse to keep putting these people in office who are there to serve themselves, not their constituencies, we will continue losing our rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.

    How is voting for the “lesser of two evils” working out for you?

    What if we opted not to put any kind of evil in office, not just the lesser one? What if we opted to put the best of our country in positions of power, not just the less horrible of our country?

    When are we going to say that we’ve had enough? At the rate we’re going, probably when it’s already too late and our corrupt system has enslaved us to the point that rebellion is futile.

    The mainstream media is acting like Senator Rand Paul is a lunatic who is determined to shut down the government, but in reality, Senator Paul seems to be one of the only people in Washington DC who performing his due diligence.

    Write to your local Senators and call their offices. (Find the contact info here.) Demand that they vote no on this spending bill.  We have to stop passing policies that haven’t even been read by those voting on them. Lawmaking should not be a game of “Let’s Make a Deal.”

    Government shutdowns have happened before and they’re mostly theater. We’ve been perfectly fine without them.


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      1. Something about two cheeks on the same butt …

        • I used to care that Republicans held both houses on capitol hill and the oval office. I loved to rub it in to the Democrats how they had lost control of everything. But alas, it was wishful thinking. America has one single party.

          If the Democrats take back power this mid-term cycle, I’ll be indifferent. Whats coming is coming. It is what it is.

          • Yup, just what you said SS.

            • IMHO it’s time for us so called Gun Nuts to have a 10,000,000 man march on DC and bring ropes and tar.

          • The country we live in, the FUSA, is an empire in decline. We are showing ALL of the signs that world powers in the past have shown. The FUSA is broke and its’ money debased (soon it will not be worth the paper it is printed on, its’ military is over extended. We have too many takers and not enough producers. We have lost our religious morality and values. We promote, celebrate and encourage that which was considered sexual perversion and degeneracy. We are being invaded by our own version of barbarians (Yes I do mean illegal aliens and 3rd world Muslims). We now mock patriotism. We are being taught to be ashamed of and despise our history. We are obsessed with sports, entertainers and material things (our version of Bread and Circuses).

            Our women hold in contempt marriage, family and the raising of children. Think of all the babies this country has murder via the genocide called abortion. We now call this kind of murder a “right”. Given the millions of abortions since it became “legal”, we have made Hitler look like an amateur next to this countries abortion body count. To make matters more revolting, tax payer supported Planned Parenthood, sells baby parts.

            Our men are becoming shallow beta males, too weak and flawed to qualify for military service. Think about the state of affairs when it is easier to get into the university of choice than it is to enlist in the military. We as a nation are in a nose dive. ALL world powers had a limited life span, we are approaching the end of that time span.

            The best thing I can say about Trump is that he is NOT Hillary the evil Clinton. Trump can NOT make America great again. The road to ruin is not going to be reversed.

            It seems that we the people are going to learn once again, that when you disarm a group of people, they become the targets of genocide. Yes it can happen here, and if the Lefties (democrats, socialists, progressives) get the gun CONFISCATION laws passed here, it is a 100% certainty that it WILL happen. They do hate you and want you dead.

            • Well said, NVB! Right on target! Isaiah 5:20 comes to mind.

              • Isaiah 5:20 – Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

                one of my favorite verses….and it most definitely speaks of the hypocrisy of the world and it’s political correctness garbage here in the end of this age…..If it wasn’t already evident, it is so much worse now..It is the evil of the world trying to shake their fist in God’s face…. God will deal with those who try to justify sin by saying it is right.

                • Regarding NVBadger’s third paragraph, I was just reading Jeremiah last night & came across Jeremiah 51:30 and it seemed apropos. I’ll leave off the very last part of the verse (it’s less applicable …yet). In the KJV it goes like this:
                  Jer 51:30
                  “The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women …”

            • New Vegas badger you are 1005 correct. a nation in decline.

            • “Our men are becoming shallow beta males…”

              And this is on display even in stupid commercials. I noticed recently there is an ad (local, I think) for something to be 100% done instead of 25%. The ad begins with a guy scrubbing his dingy gray house exterior with a small mop but in comes a superwoman with a giant hose (yes, I get the analogy) and in one giant swipe cleans the house perfectly white again. The ad ends with the usual buy our stuff.

              I’m beginning to just loathe the constant put-down of men. I believe a strong man (in word and deed) is vital to a strong society. I highly appreciate a fully masculine man.

              Cheers to all the good guys on this site.

            • They try to take our guns they die brutal deaths

            • We as a nation are in a (((nose))) dive. . .

            • The feeling is mutual

          • Sterling Silver : I have said it over and over. They all go to the same schools, sleep with the same little boys and girls, go to the same parties, and generally strive for the same goals. The Demorats and the republithinkIcans have the same goals. The only difference is the road they are taking to get their. The Demorats are a little more honest, in that they are telling you where they are going and what they want to do, than the RepublithinkIcans. The RepublithinkIcans are taking the longer, bumpier road to get their, meanwhile taking more sheeple along the way.

            Their is more that can be done that folks don’t even think about. If you go to the movies, you are supporting gun control and your own demise. I am having a brain fart right this minute. I am sure other people can express their ideas of how WE are unknowingly supporting gun control and our own demise.

            These school kids and their marching and organizing are going to be icing on the cake for the fake news media. Where are the parents? Oh yea, on EBT. They are marching to. When all of us old farts finally retire and quit paying into the system, then the system will finally be overloaded and out of money. Probably another reason they are putting it into overdrive. They don’t have much time left before the system crashes and real problems begin. They don’t need false flag events anymore. Every day is a false flag.

        • Two ends of the same turd

          • Lol, I think I like your description better than mine NB.

          • Our enemies are capitalists,
            Communists as well,
            Both these forms of evil,
            Are ringing our death knell.

            We need the people to awake,
            And fight for us right now.
            We will never be the slaves,
            To ((())) and master Mao.


      2. Trumps coming for the Guns. His Famous Quote was. CONFISCATE THE GUN. THEN DUE Process.Pathetic.

        • I hope he has a good set of oven mitts. Some might be a little hot.

          • As I have been saying for a good while: Gov’t is broken and gov’t has FAILED us ALL Horribly and miserably!! These Rat bastards all deserve to get carcinoma of the anus and or of the penis!! Wake up America – they want guns GONE, period, The END!! I have about NO FAITH at all anymore. When are the bombs going to start a dropping? ? Let me know, so I can cash out my fantasy 401k, etc, etc. What a flipping complete joke all of it is guys.

            • CC – Or carcinoma of the testes, so they cannot multiply.

          • Damn right… Every corrupt government official will be slaughtered

        • Fuck you and fuck the rest. TRUMP is NOT coming for your guns, or mine or anyone elses. At the end of the day you only need to be honest with yourself on ONE THING…..

          Will you be a bitch and hand them over SHOULD they come?

          Or be a Patriot and be willing to die for what you believe in?

          Me thinks you’ll cave with that bullshit troll name. Piss off.

          • Hahahahahaha… Your a funny little fuker ain’t ya boy. But I’ll give ya this much, your right.

          • Dmonic, sadly I agree. The average American is becoming more pussified every day. Most will comply, some will not but not enough will resist the tyranny I’m afraid.

      3. the bill is going to Trump. Now is his chance to show once and for all what his true colors are. If he signs – I hope to God all here realize what that means. That we were duped. Granted, the other Hildabeast option was worse; but I hate to say it, at least she was upfront about her traitorism. If he signs… it’s the end for me for any remaining vestige of support for him.

        • I never really had any illusions about Trump…he was never the answer to anything except avoiding Hillary. He has New York City sensibilities at bottom, and he’s very much a fiscal liberal and always was.

          But I still have a moment of satisfaction often when I consider that Hillary is not now and never will be my president. That’s not nothing.

          About the rest, like others here I’ve gotten a bit fatalistic about it. I mean, even if all of our congresscritters worked their butts off, were very smart and acted in completely good faith, we’re still pretty much screwed, right? $20 Trillion and counting? That can’t ever be paid, and people who say dumb things like “just mint 20 one-trillion dollar coins and pay it off” don’t have a clue how this will all play out.

          I’m just enjoying my family and my life, and I will until for whatever reason I can’t. Probably that will be about the time the guns come out.

          • “I’m just enjoying my family and my life, and I will until for whatever reason I can’t. Probably that will be about the time the guns come out”

            Chemtrails and Cancer… Reason enough to know them guns will never see the light of day.

        • Heartless, good points. Although I’ve already given up on Trump, if he vetoes the bill then MAYBE my faith will get restored. But I’m not holding my breath on anything. Whatever gets passed will be null and void in my view.

          • TDBh, well – that was ‘it’ for me as regards Trump. He signed it, cloaking his traitorous act in the red-white-n-blue. What’s next? Seriously Braveheart, I’m asking. It’s coming time we the people are going to have to do something to take this land of our’s back. Trump scr*wed the pooch for good this time. It’ll take decades and generations to fix this.

            • Heartless, I’m afraid of what COULD be next but I’m still prepping for it. This weekend I leave for the BOL for 2 weeks. Vacation time and some ‘drills’ involved also. Keep stacking and praying. That’s the best advice I can give to anyone.

        • Trump signed it, showing his weakness. Trump, being wishy-washy, bowing to the left, has just lost 2020 for sure.

      4. Come and take ’em.

        • People used to say that in California and such.

          Then they did come for them, and those saying it just gave up without the fight their statements suggested they would put up.

          Keyboard warriors and braggarts never walk the way they talk, otherwise they would already be dead.

          • Anonymous: I hate to say it but your statement is very TRUE!! So many people talk all kinds of shit and that is all it is: Shit talk. Christ, it makes me sick.

            • I’ll never brag about how I’ll fight back. But I’ll fight back in much more subtle, sneaky ways. They won’t get ALL of my guns, because mostly they’ll be hidden very well and separately from each other, not on my property. Safe for the day when it really does become too intolerable and I’ve got nothing left to lose by breaking them out and using them.

              But until then, I won’t be playing Rambo or anything. Absent a really compelling reason, I don’t think I have the courage for that.

              • Take a lesson from the Romanians.

                Notice all those Mauser rifles the civilian forces used to overthrow Ceaușescu? Probably covert battlefield pickups from WWII that had been squirreled away, plastered up in basement walls and other hideaways, waiting till the right time to use them.

            • With your shield or on it…

          • Screw you Anonymous….you don’t even know me.

            Stop projecting your own cowardice onto the rest of us.

          • That saying strarted in texas at the battle of gonzales and will lilely end there as well

      5. We’re borrowing money to give it away! Maybe we should rethink the line item veto. Whether it would be a good thing or not depends on who is in office. The items mentioned are there because of political deal-making. It’s been part of the political process since the first budget was passed.

        Most senior citizens on social security are having problems with their finances. It isn’t necessarily dementia. The value of their savings are shrinking with inflation and low returns on those savings. Interest on savings may be being held down but medical costs are not. Naturally, they are having trouble. If older people are angry, they have every right to be! It is completely rational. Maybe they want to take away their guns to keep them from shooting someone whose actions provoke attack. Having trouble managing your finances is not proof of dementia!

        • “Most senior citizens on social security are having problems with their finances. It isn’t necessarily dementia.”

          Bingo. This is the proverbial camel’s nose under the tent, and the diabolically evil DemonRats under Obama knew that was what it was when they enacted this sneaky piece of unconstitutional B.S.

          Here is what I bet the DemoNRats have up their sleeves. When they passed this sneaky anti-gun rights thing, they were confident that the evil Hildebeast bitch was going to win in November 2016. And, once this evil witch was seated in the same Oval Office that still reeks of the body fluids of the Slickmeister – this little provision would quietly be expanded to include Senior citizens who needed to hire a CPA or other tax advisor to help them do their taxes. Next, it would be expanded to also cover seniors who relied upon financial advisors to help advise them on investing their retirement savings.

          Now, one might float the argument that – aside from personal protection, Seniors are not going to be physically fit enough to use their 2nd Amendment rights to ward off threats from a tyrannical government – which is really what the 2nd Amendment was all about. And, since Seniors tend to have more health issues – once they hit a certain age, they are less likely to be out stomping through the woods on a hunting expedition. So, what’s the big deal about taking Grandpa’s guns away from him?

          Let me clue you in as to the agenda. Here is what is on the minds of these 2nd Amendment hating Communist bastards:

          Seniors who still own firearms when they croak – will want their firearms to be passed down to their beneficiaries. This is why Obama and his gun grabbing Communist pals dreamed up this pretext that enabled the Government to seize the firearms of Senior citizens, folks. Take them away from Grandpa and Grandma and their grand-kids won’t be able to acquire them.

          Liberals and Communists have always thought out their evil agenda for the long term, folks. That’s why these evil bastards always seem to be 3 or 4 steps head of dimwitted, embarrassingly stupid, short term thinking Republicans.

          Need another example of how the left thinks and strategize for the long term? Liberals and Communists control Public Education in America, right? Well, when we have an epidemic of school administrators demanding, and coercing, mostly White parents who have young White sons enrolled in public schools – that they have to put their sons on drugs like Ritalin or some other similar drug because they are ‘squirming’ and ‘fidgeting’ in their seats during class – guess what caving into those demands does?

          Your son’s medical file has an entry placed in it that documents that they were prescribed to use that drug. When that same son reaches the legal age to purchase a firearm – and he is handed a stack of paperwork forms that he must fill out, on one of those forms – he specifically asked if he has ever taken a list of psychotropic medications and Ritalin is one of those medications. Answering the question – Yes, and his purchase of a firearm can be denied. Answering the question – No, and if later on – it is discovered that he lied, then the law can seize his firearms and prosecute him for falsifying his paperwork.

          Forcing young white kids to take any of these psychotropic drugs – years before they are even eligible to purchase a firearm – effectively repeals their 2nd Amendment rights – and this is why the left is pushing these drugs on our kids. Oh, and one other thing I should mention. If a family has a child who is taking psychotropic drugs and the adults in that family own firearms and those firearms are stored in their home – if and when a future White House is again occupied by a gun grabbing liberal Communist – they can extend that prohibition of keeping firearms out of the reach of children who are on those kinds of drugs to include the house that child lives in. That is the backdoor way that the left will be able to abolish the 2nd Amendment rights of entire families – and all they have to do, is to get a child to take one of these psychotropic medications.

          As I said. The communists think and plan their evil on a long term basis. They are cunning and they are Satanically devious. Which means, patriots and conservatives have to pull their heads out of their asses and engage their brains and be constantly on guard against these tactics.

          • Tucker, you make some damn good points. I’m glad I don’t have any kids to worry about. I’d never let any mofo force any kind of drugs on my kids. And it’s true that only WHITE kids get drugs forced on them. The damn apes in school get away with all kinds of shit and are never held accountable for their actions just because they’re BLACK. This black civil rights crap is really bringing the country down.

            • I’ll give you three guesses as to what (((group))) was the legal/political/financial brains behind the black civil rights movement. Hint: The same group that rammed through the Hart-Celler Act of 1965.

            • TDB,
              Obama created a regulation that cuts federal money including grant eligibility to schools that call the police on school crime and violence committed by minority’s. Incredibly Police can be called on white kids with no fiscal repercussions. The Florida shooter was a white kid, but because of adoption, he had a Hispanic name, thus reasonably immune from arrest.

              Obama’s regulation in many communities created an environment that local gangs began to exploit, because gangland crime was safe for minorities to commit on school property, especially toward the end of the month when the numbers were reported to Feds, and schools had to keep the numbers down. This is nationwide, gangs go so far as to schedule drug deliveries for the end of the month because they know police and school authorities will likely stand down.

              We have laws about drug dealing and gun possession near schools, but those laws aren’t enforced when schools don’t call the police, or police just stand down.

              The Obama admin claimed they were trying to protect minority’s from police excesses with this regulation, but all they did was promote and protect crime on school property, especially when it victimized minorities. Call me skeptical, but the intent and obvious results are diametrically apposed, and I think they knew it.

          • Good post Tucker. You’re absolutely right about the left being 3 steps ahead of the ol fudd republicans. But then again a good number of the Rs are the same RINO commie globalist crooks as the Ds on the left… the only difference is that they couldn’t get elected as Ds in their districts. It is one of the 45 declared goals of the communist party to captute both political parties.

      6. Let’s pray Trump doesn’t sign this traitorous Bill.

        • James: Forget it, the king turncoat, BUFFOON, will Definitely sign the piece of shit bill. Trump has ZERO respect for us and ZERO respect for the 2nd Amendment period……put a fork in it.

          • There will likely be no bill. Sessions will simply have the BATF rewrite the regulation. No signatures, no Republican blame, and will likely take effect just after midterm elections. Coincidence??? This video explains what appears to be happening.

            This is an excerpt from a Military Arms Channel interview with Rick Vasquez

      7. Why in hell is the United States of America funding disadvantaged Egyptian students? No wonder we’re in debt up past our ears and the dollar is worthless. Our Congress has been seeing how far and wide it can fling the money.

      8. While I certainly don’t like the stupid spending, keep your eye on the goal. Trump is “correcting” the Federal Judiciary at a rapid pace mostly under the radar. He has done an exceptional job with his conservative Judge appointments (and there have been hundreds)plus he will get to choose at lease 1 more Supreme Court Justice and the ones retiring are Liberals. Google this: “Trump judicial appointments”
        and look at the top 4 or 5 results.
        Those same Judges will certainly have the opportunity to strike down the provisions of these laws that give bureaucrats the authority to destroy our rights.
        Remember that Washington is a chess game and the Supreme Court is the Queen.

      9. “The mainstream media is acting like Senator Rand Paul is a lunatic who is determined to shut down the government…”

        The Constitution did not grant natural rights to man — just counted some — also, limited the scope of govt.

        By that logic, a Constitutionalist would certainly have limited an omnibus spending bill.

        “At the same time, the bill forbids the use of federal money for arming and training school staff. That’s right – our tax dollars will be put to work against us. And representatives that are supposed to be pro-gun are allowing it to happen.”

        Mandatory schooling is purchased with a property tax. You are not formally allowed to own the land, in allodium.

        You also have a tradition, against standing armies, in which, praetors are an organ of the state, to coerce the people.

        • That property tax money? Yeah, that’s another thing seniors have to worry about. It doesn’t go away automatically once a senior is retired. Oh, some states/counties have methods for modification or waiving but it’s on an annual basis so miss a deadline and the senior is up the financial creek–yet another way to prove financial ineptitude.

          • Non-payment is considered a sign of mental ineptitude, which can result in a loss of freedoms, for psychiatric reasons.

      10. Read or listen to audio book, free
        Eustace Mullins
        “World Order
        The Secret Rulers
        The Hedgmony Of Parisitism”

        This book was researched in the Library of Congress.
        Mullins was fired after the book was published.

        It gives you the names of the players and dates of events
        Leading to the creation of the World Order, the secret rulers of planet earth.


      11. The Rothschilds tell the Council on Foreign Affairs who tells Congress what to do.

        It’s the Money Men who run the show, not the President, not Congress.

        The gun ownership in the USA is the only thing that stands between ordinary people and the people who truly believe they are so superior that they can make wars for killing us. They will do to our people what they caused to happen in Russia, Ukraine, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Germany, Armenia, Rodesia, and South Africa. Massacre.


        • Council On Foreign Affairs is an invidious evil NWO group. If Trump succeeds in taking down the swamp the COFA will have to go.

          • Meant insidious not Invidious, I hate autocorrect.

            • Don’t mean to nit-pic, but did you mean the CFR? Trekker Out

              • There are various “Council On” groups throughout our government that are packed with unelected bureaucrats who exercise power through fascist regulation. They provide advise to congress, presidents and department heads. They often have no accountability. Obama created scads of new groups and filled them with swamp creatures. Obama considers them part of his political army and still controls many of these groups even though Trump is President.

                Council on Foreign Relations is one also.

      12. “At the same time, the bill forbids the use of federal money for arming and training school staff. That’s right – our tax dollars will be put to work against us. And representatives that are supposed to be pro-gun are allowing it to happen.”

        This is meaningless. School staffing and policies are a STATE function. The Feds provide some funds for SPECIFIC programs not general operating activities.

      13. As I’ve said recently, for years I use to be a Republican which I thought for years meant smaller government, less wasteful spending and a live and let live attitude. I haven’t seen that in years.

        I believe there’s merit in keeping both houses in Congress in the hands of the different parties. In some little way force them to compromise or nothing gets done.
        Then vote for the individual who is the most mature and even tempered and experienced for President. Can’t be worse than it is.

        See those stacks of paper Paul is holding? Have you ever wondered who writes that? Very often the lobbyist who only has his bosses interests at heart not yours.

      14. Get the guns, get the ammo, while you still can. If we are going to be sold out we should face the inevitable with a means to fight the treasoness bastards!

        • Amen brother…

      15. hey we buried our war paint along time ago. We were the ones who got Custer remember Trust no one out side your tribe. Never give up your war paint no matter what laws are passed. Tyranny knows no race no political parties no limits They will come for your war paint with guns Let them find empty air and smile. Remain men not reservation coffee coolers

        • HCKS
          Thanks Great info.

        • hope its true HCKS…..

        • I couldn’t listen because WIN 10 on my machine doesn’t let me have sound (tried all the simple fixed) but there is a link to read the information.

          It’s interesting. And much like the Q Anon info.

          Definitely keep our eyes open.

        • HCKS,

          I’ll believe it when I see it.

      16. $20m for Middle East Partnership Initiative Scholarship Program

        Fuck the middle East with a capital F. I just paid my taxes on Monday. $21,348.00 I had to pay. I am so sick of this shit.

        • John: You are so right! Look how badly they rape our rectums and turn around and give the money to those vile disgusting sand-apes in the middle East? You have got to be “f-ing” kidding me with this garbage. None of this will stop nor change until we the people make a stand. . .stop paying taxes. Take control of OUR Gov’t and HANG ALL of the traitors in DC! This nation is screwed…it is only a short amount of time folks. Have fun with whatever little bit of time you actually have left…

        • JS— On the bright side you had a good year if there is no mistake on your return! (smiley face)

      17. $10m for Women LEOs in Afghanistan

        Why not just pay $100 dollars for more hajabs and put them on the men police officers and pretend they are women?

        • So let me get this right, we are giving away how many Millions probably Billions to apes that absolutely hate us to death?? Oh okay, just wanted to make sure I am seeing the complete picture here. My God, what a disgrace. A nation that does this sort of shit deserves to FAIL!

        • Yes sir, I do believe they will continue in their efforts to do away with our American, God given freedoms…

          I feel the anger and the impedious to act, but am waiting for the official kick off: the nullification of the Constitution…

      18. “OUT LAW GUNS” and only “OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS”

        • Yes, We will all be outlaws. If they change the law then we have no obligation to obey. Under no circumstances should any man give up his weapons. Some commenting on here think we are all yellow backs, but it only took 3% before to prevail.

          • Beowulf, truer words were never spoken. Totally agree.

          • Beowulf, 3% of zero is still zero. Except for a few isolated individuals, I bet most will not stand their ground. Hope I’m wrong though, but I’ve about lost all hope for this country’s future.

            • When I was a soldier I would judge men that would not take up for themselves as yellow. Then when we get shot at they would fight like tigers [To stay alive].Hard to tell what a man will do before it starts.

      19. The problem is that every bill this large always has provisions that we don’t like. They do this to every bill so that if you’re against it, they can say on TV that you voted against the good things in the bill.

        They did this countless times to Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC). He said he would never vote for certain things, so the Democrats made sure that some of those things were included in almost every otherwise good bill that was put to a vote.

        The solution to this would be to have the actual spending bill just authorize totals for various categories, such as military, bureaucrat salaries, foreign aid, etc. Then, each line item would need to be separately voted on, so that conservatives could vote down each one that needed it, or the President could veto each one that needed it.

        These 2,000 page monsters need to be eliminated entirely.

        • Archivist:

          I agree completely.

          Only one item at a time. We could pass a bill limiting the number of words in a bill, say keep it under 1,000 words. And there should be a forewarning. It took a long time to prepare that. No one day here it is.

          This is total bs and it should be fought vehemently until rectified.


      20. TPTB know everybody is busy with their own lives and not likely to join together publicly to protest anything. Without a large public pushback the people’s concerns will continue to be ignored. Potential power of the people leads to power to the people. Otherwise we all sit back and accept our fate knowing we let all this happen ourselves.

        • Aljamo:

          This is an issue all of us agree upon. The only ones who would object would represent the .000000000001%. I think this could be the one. Something all races, every age group, virtually all of us Americans can unite and fight.

          There are activists for other issues that could get behind this. I think there’s hope.


        • Aljamo, the only ones that do have the time to protest don’t work. It’s the pathetic jobless mindless liberals that do all the protests. The rest of us are busy working so we can pay taxes so they don’t have to.

      21. The last time I check my tree and my rope are neither Repubicans or vomitcrats. The rope will fit either one. Keep up the B.S. and there will be a Civil war for sure.

        • Sgt., Have you checked out the fractional silver rounds on the ad sites here? They are cool as hell. 1/10 … 1/4 … 1/2 … I know they are a couple bucks over spot per oz. but they really are cool! I got some 1/4 and 1/2 rounds in the morgan dollar style and love em’! I usually use junk silver as a fractional unit for silver but hey, these are my new favorite 🙂

      22. I despise Democrats and GOPe.
        I’m preparing for the worst.
        I’m an old fart, out in the middle
        of nowhere, with such a incompetent
        local government nothing much gets done,
        so the madness that has infected
        America won’t have much of an impact
        on me.
        I am concerned about my Grandson’s
        I do know if we keep having schools shot up
        instead of shot up dead Democrat and GOPe
        politicians, it will only get worse.

        • Get your grandson a union job and he will be able to make a living! Or just let him fend for himself in the illegal alien cesspool….

        • ???

      23. I’m going to spend this day forward until the mid-terms on my knees praying that Democrats win back the House and Pelosi is Speaker once again.I’m going to pray that the Dems impeach Trump. I’m going to pray they win the presidency . Why? Because we DESERVE IT!. But first,I will change my registrtration from Republican to Independent. Everybody have a good day.

        • south,
          You are better off praying that an EMP or solar flare knocks out the power grid.
          That will accomplish more of we want(our old America freedoms back) than having Democrats or GOPe running the show.
          You all have a good weekend.

          • I will include a grid down scenario in my prayers.

        • I’ve voted in my last Federal election…the one in 2016.

          I’m done voting. It’s a useless, futile effort.

          As I once heard it said, “if voting could really make a difference, it would be illegal.”

          George Carlin (with whom I agree on almost nothing) said, “The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice……you don’t.”

          At some point, the balloon will go up and it’ll be time to rock ‘n roll.

      24. Thanks Sarge. Now I just heard something about some kind of bill that just got signed, selling us out. Not sure what was I that bill. Mac, you may need to post a thread detailing the BS on that bill. Just saying?


        • HCKS, it would be nice to see Mac join us, but he doesn’t seem to have much of an interest.

      25. Concerned Citizen, please watch you tone around here, your language might be offensive to others. You must have meant financial ass rape instead. Like anyone gives a fuck. Just kidding with guy, but that bill from what I heard just sold us out to the deep state. Does anyone have any info on that bill. The bill that anally raped, without lubrication, the entire country?


        • HCKS,
          It is over 2,000 pages so it would take a while.
          Certainly the congress critters that voted for it
          and the president that signed it have no idea whats
          in it.

          • Yeah they have to vote for it to see what’s in it, like Pelosi once said. What a beautiful woman she is.

      26. Though I’m neither hard-left or hard-right politically, there is something about that Obama/NICS rule that scares the heck out of me. Namely, that we’ve already made this mistake before; we let a government agency inform on citizens to deprive them of their Constitutional rights in the past.
        It was the Census data that was used to intern Japanese citizens during WW2. Watch out, we’ve deprived people of the 4th before, we’re gonna deprive folks of the 2nd soon. What’s next? 1st? 5th? 13th?

        • Once the 2nd is gone, the others become irrelevant.

      27. I am all for Rand Paul just as I was for his Dad, Ron Paul, But when all is said and done I would bet that Rand Paul will also vote for this Bill, just as he did last month when they were going to shut down the Government. Trekker Out

        • Must admit, I was wrong about Rand Paul. He held the line and voted against this terrible bill. Another 500 million for planned parenthood and more gun control. Both of my Senators also voted nay also. Trekker Out

      28. Guys, this really is not a bad thing. We are all aware that this runaway train is running full throttle off the rails. The economy, and our very way of life, is circling the drain rapidly. The insane spending will continue until it can no longer continue. Then the next phase will begin, what ever that will entail. I am bracing myself for that next phase to manifest itself.

          • Genius, that cat has so much more intelligence than many of our pathetic dumb congressman, particularly Pelosi and Maxine Waters to name the lowest IQ ones.

      29. The Republicans are the Jelly Fish Party: Like a jelly fish, they drift with the tide, they have no brains, no spine and no balls. They not quite as unethical as the Party of Evil (Democrats) but that is damning with faint praise. The ONLY use for the word “Republican” is as a way of saying “I’m not a democrat” as a means to deceive the voters into thinking the guy using it has some core values and principles. What I find unforgivable and contemptible is their refusal to lead and be in charge when they are the party in power. The RINOs will betray their oath of office (support gun control) if they think it will help them to get re-elected. Once in office there are two and only two things they care about; Power and Money.

        • …and nubile young Congressional interns.

        • NVB, so very true.

      30. You can express you pros and cons to your congress critter all you want and you will get the glad hand thank-you mam and the they will do whatever lines their pockets best. My next conversation with members of congress will most likely be as Chairman Mao suggested FROM THE BAREL OF A GUN

      31. Anyone who believes any politician must be delusional or just plain brain dead!!

      32. Because the US Supreme Court doesn’t do its job Constitutional Rights are relegated to a popularity contest in which its detractors have the bullhorn.

      33. The sooner the sheeple wake up to the fact that both parties are not for the people but for themselves
        The sooner we can get this party started

        These fuckin fence sitters and those that actually think there is a working government
        Or a two party system is sowing down our Revolution

        No people we don’t want a Civil War
        That’s what they want , they want us fighting each other
        And not them

        A Revolution is ours against them
        And that’s why they are so scared of us and want our guns
        Because if half these sheeple wake up
        The fools on the hill will have their hands full of trying to find a hole to hide in
        Don’t keep buying into the division
        And that we need these fucks to keep screwing us over endlessly
        Centuries of this shit
        And many too dumb to even see it
        Wake up!

        • Red,
          I keep in contact with my “representatives”, I’m in all their databases, they keep a data base on you if you call, email, or snail mail(maybe I scare them). I’ve even had coffee with one.
          They are elected by people that are as about as opposite to me as can be. They are Democrats. Other than biology I have nothing in common with them, we do not even speak the same language.
          My “is” is different from their “is”.
          I’m a minority here, where I live, but know what the lay of the land is.
          I’m not advocating war, but I know at some point like in the school yard there is going to be a physical fight.
          Prepare to win that fight.

          • And they label you a racist because you’re not on their side.

          • Truth bud,
            I fully plan on having to hit the trees at some point,,,
            Theres a lot of gutless mutts here who will just go along to get along, total crap if ya ask me,

        • @Red Hawk…

          A revolution IS a civil war. Make no mistake about it, our revolution in 1776 was most definitely a civil war, because many in the colonies sided with Britain. This was particularly true in the southern colonies.

          No doubt, there are many now who will side with the deep state. I would anticipate it being much like it was in 1860 among the military. There will be those who will not be willing to go against the Constitution and liberty.

          And it will be a mess.

          I’ve been saying for a long time that a civil war is coming. I believe it to be unavoidable. It would be nice if we could avoid it, but the country is just as divided now as it was in 1860.

          I don’t know what the catalyst will be that will set it off. It may not be a single event, but rather a series of events. That was the case with the revolution when this country broke away from Britain. We tend to attribute the start of the revolution to what happened at Lexington and Concord, but there had been a long series of events that led up to that.

          But it’s coming.

      34. They are going to have to print some real money soon. What is after a Trillion 1,000,000,000,000,000.00 It does not look too bad if you use small zeros.

      35. It might have been better had Hillary won. Most of the Trump voters are fast ASLEEP. Trump will confiscate your guns. But most will accept it since “he’s better than that bitch Hillary” Its more acceptable to get it in the ass from Trump. Nothing has changed. Its just a personality contest.

      36. I have been consistant in my opinion that there isn’t now never was and never will be any viable political or ballot box solution. And that the irreversable situation of too many parasite takers and too few producing makers is not long term sustainable. So our nation is indeed in decline. So that leaves us without any peaceful solution. We can hope and pray for divine intervention? As far as gun laws are we willing to die trying to retain possession of our firearms? are the authorities willing to die trying to take them from us?

        • See I knew wisdom came with age. The good thing about being old is we don’t have to grow up in this shit!

      37. There is an all out culture war going on against everything American and your average American is totally dumbed down, docile, indoctrinated, fat, medicated, high on drugs, and swayed by everything they’re told to believe by the television.

        They (both parties) have run our country into the ground and they’re not going to stop.

      38. FBI = America’s version of the NKVD

      39. After Trump signed this budget bill I am suspending my support for him. I am a Southerner who voted for Trump, I believed his promises about being an uncompromising proponent of the 2nd Amendment, balancing the budget, and building the Wall. Instead he has caved to TPTB agenda. He did get our federal taxes lower, but even that runs out in 7 years. The budget bill he just signed is only for the next 6 months; he is going to have to take the bull by the horns by then because he has broken too many campaign promises, he is rapidly losing his support base. This new budget bill highlights the fact there is a difference in ideology between Democrats and Republicans, but in practice there is not. This bill is a legislatively manufactured wreck and they all know it; gigantic deficit spending, new rules curtailing gun rights, total funding of Planned Parenthood, giving sanctuary cities and states full funding, but almost no money for the Wall, the Democratic Party could not have written a budget bill they like better. Now we learn that just like the ObamaCare bill, this budget bill wasn’t even read by most Rep’s and Sen’s before voting for it.
        More catastrophic debt has been added, they’re not even talking about that, because it doesn’t make a difference anymore. It is really totally beyond any control, it is totally unpayable, there is going to be god awful financial reckoning in our country. As interest rates go up, and it is because it must, you will see the costs of financing the debt skyrocket making budgets un- doable. The bond markets will be crushed. This business is all just a farce. Unfortunately, a farce with consequences. The majority of Americans don’t realize we are in the most gravest financial situation facing the most dire of consequences, I believe the reasons so many Republicans are leaving Congress after this session is because they know a) nothing can be fixed, and b) they don’t want any blame for the huge problems that are coming soon.

      40. I am now more than ever convinced that we need a “Convention of States” to limit the breadth and scope of our Federal Government. We need to have local accountability, and the ability to pull our representatives from Washington if they don’t vote in accordance with their constituents. It’s the only way we will ever get term limits, the repeal of the 17th amendment. (Allowing the States to appoint their Senators and giving them the ability to recall them from Washington if the don’t serve the will of their State legislators.) Not to mention so much more. In my opinion it is the only Constitutional measure that will allow for the peaceful transition of Government back to a Constitutional Republic. Anything else will add up to civil war or Democide.

      41. It’s not Republican / Democrat any more, Satan owns both sides. It’s a Patriot Conservative / Leftist Communist choice now. Be careful which you vote for, the liberals will run as a conservative and when elected be a commie.
        These RINOs are traitors to the people who voted for them.
        It will all be dealt with in the coming civil war.

      42. Tucker – You are definitely right about liberals taking the long view. A little here, a little there and inches become miles. You are also right about the ritalin. Boys are far more active than girls and find it difficult to sit still for long periods of time. Instead of changing how they are taught, we drug them. There is something about ritalin that reminds me of thalidomide. There are long=term effects to it that haven’t shown up yet but will later. They’ll use the psychotropic drug angle to deny the right to buy firearms. The liberals love to brand us as “paranoid” and “conspiracy theorists” but they are always conspiring and playing the “long game”. Good points!

      43. 95 out of every 100 politicians, agents of gov, and especially bureaucrats are evil, evil pieces of shit folks.

      44. Article 5, Convention of States.

        The only way forward.

      45. Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive. Mao Zedong

      46. “A Democratic congressman from Long Island, Representative Tom Suozzi, implied [implied my a**] that Americans should grab weapons [also known as guns] and oppose President Trump by force, if “the commander-in-chief doesn’t follow the Constitution.””

        This guy is a member of the gun-confiscation movement(s) advocating gun-confiscation. Read what this guy says closely. These people are so confident in where the gun-control | gun confiscation movement is going that they feel they can say anything now.

        Suozzi, a democrat from New York — the state that has the NY Safe Act — just about the most draconian gun control law currently in place in any state but California. This an anti-gun, pro-gun control elected official is advocating using guns to take down a duly-elected President of the United States.

        Suozzi said all this during a town hall meeting. A member of his audience actually raised his hand to ask: “What is a Second Amendment?”

        Chilling. I have attached the article.

      47. When people are too quick to blame declining memory and physical health to aging alone, they stop looking for other causes. Aging does cause some deterioration in our health, but not as much as see in people we label “old”. The effects of “aging” are due to other factors as well. If Americans fully understood what was causing deteriorating memories and health, they would be angry enough to do something about it. Instead, they lay it all up to “growing older”.

        We’ve all been told what you should do to reduce the effects of aging. Be physically and mentally active, socially interact with other people, keep your weight down, eat a healthy diet, etc. They’re all good points but there is more.

        The buildup of heavy metals and the decline in our microbiome account for a lot of the decline in memory, mental abilities, and physical health. They are at least in part reversible. What we are seeing as an inevitable part of aging isn’t inevitable.

      48. “march for life” farce taking place today.

        in over 90% of all mass shootings, we in gun free zones, by mentally ill people that had given numerous signs ahead of time; yet this goes nationwide now and trump has already joined in by banning bump stocks.

        and the farce of the new budget approved by the supposedly “fiscally conservative” party and trump.

        this country is so over as founded.

        just one or two more elections for ted kennedys immigration act to turn enough states blue and the Bernie sanders America will have looked good by comparison.

        • A “march For LIFE”

          Is it anti-abortion?

          Or pro 3 strikes?

          Confounded language


        • Today’s gun control and confiscation rally was nothing new. Nazis and leftists have been using children for decades in their attempts to take guns away from law abiding citizens.

          Here’s a history lesson for young adults in America – Hitler’s regime took away guns from people in Germany and then herded those they did not like into boxcars and shipped them to concentration camps where they were enslaved, beaten, raped and murdered. The victims didn’t fire a shot in self-defense because their guns were taken away.

          Hitler said –

          “These boys and girls enter our organizations [at] ten years of age, and often for the first time get a little fresh air; after four years of the Young Folk they go on to the Hitler Youth, where we have them for another four years . . . And even if they are still not complete National Socialists, they go to Labor Service and are smoothed out there for another six, seven months . . . And whatever class consciousness or social status might still be left . . . the Wehrmacht [German armed forces] will take care of that.”
          —Adolf Hitler (1938)

          • Nail,
            Good comment!

      49. Who knew baby boomers were to be the last to remember any real partial economic and personal freedom in America? Those born between 1946-1964. The blender has whirled to smoking hot destruction every which way you look. All of this innovation proving cosmetic suck you dry facepaint.

      50. To the editors: My comment has been in moderation since almost 9:30 AM this morning. It is now 1:30 PM in the afternoon. Just how many “0-2 hours” do you need?

        And this whole nonsense about how your “. . . system does not recognize [my] IP address or email address.” Pure crap. I have been commenting here for years.

        What’s the matter? Hillary Clinton’s direct line busy? The DNC out for lunch?

      51. To the snowflakes:
        1. Criminals are not deterred by your gun laws.
        2. Emotion is not a replacement for thinking and experience.
        3. Gun-free-zones =. Easy-kill-zones
        4. Safetyis the responsibility of the individual & is not guaranteed regardless of the laws.

        Experience (parents & elders) were once revered in this country. Recent decades have seen the erosion of respect for experience, sometimes due to irresponsible behavior by elders. I suggest that parents are irresponsible for not teaching students about the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Federalist Papers.

        Recent terrorist attack weapons include a truck, van, bombs, knives, and firearms. Thinking experienced adults realize it is naive to ban all of these items.

      52. Didnt Rand Paul help get Mitch McConnell reelected.

      53. I was bored so I googled the .com “Stormfront”

        There’s a video called “The Truth About Dr. Martin Luther King”.

        I saw something similar a long time ago. But this one is quite good.


      54. “What if we opted not to put any kind of evil in office, not just the lesser one?”

        What if it’s the very existence of the office itself that’s evil, and it doesn’t matter who we put into it?

        How many times must we experience failures that prove that representative constitutional republics are absolute failures at preserving liberty, before we admit it to ourselves?

      55. These government people do nothing for the people to warrant such high pay. Absolutely nothing. Funny money hot off the presses by the boatload for all the swamp dwellers.

      56. Republicans ? Democrats ? Try Deep Statists or Globalists and neither party gives two shits about you and I and haven’t since before Moses was a tot.

        • Franklin Co. N. C. sheriff said “I’ll kiss your ass until I am elected and after that you can kiss mine”. That just the way it works in most cases!

          • still playing – that is exactly what Trump did. I read he stated at a rally a few months ago that now he has our votes he doesn’t need us.

      57. you said it tucker ==amen brother

      58. Just this week we lost 1.4 trillion dollars in our retirements, 401K and savings. Just this week he appointed a war monger to his already lying and incompetent revolving door cabinet. Just this week more of his infidelity came to surface. Just this week he started a trade war to derail the economy. All that and then this pretentious smug on that lying face. Oh and he signed the bill. But half of you here will reelect him anyway.

      59. Well we have those marches for our lives.. I suspect that these kids are being manipulated by communist.

      60. It’s coming. They are so afraid of loosing their seat that they are caving.

        • They really are cave-men. . .

      61. Don’t be fooled, it makes little difference which political party controls the the House or Presidency. There is a difference ideologically between political parties, but really not in practice. No doubt there are ongoing councils of officialdom, special interest groups, ”civil rights” organizations, think tanks, and other power broker groups meeting behind closed doors trying to figure out how to disarm Americans, take away our firearms, and legally nullify the meaning and force of the 2nd Amendment – forever.
        You will see politicians speak up for gun control, you will see crowds protesting in cities to take away our guns, you will hear the MSM vilify gun owners, and you see students demanding more laws (and believe it or not, demand a reduction in personal rights for their safety), all of them are just useful idiots. But what you will not see or hear about are the hidden names and faces of those orchestrating all this. They don’t hate guns, they hate that we have guns. They hate the 2nd Amendment (actually, they hate the Constitution). They don’t like citizens empowered against gov’t.

      62. To the elected elite (both democrat and Republican) the last thing they want is an armed populace. They are both about big government and control. The Republicans only give lip service to the protecting the second amendment. Nothing more…

      63. The result of a “one party system” peopled by elitist whores.

      64. Yeah real bright you Advocate writing to the people who are betraying us… what a fool!

      65. Most people are ignorant of the fact that the Second Amendment does not grant the US citizens the right to bare arm. It affirms that it is a God given right, an “inalienable” right which the president, congress nor the supreme court have the power to take away. It doesn’t mean they won’t try as most of our founding fathers new the tree of liberty would eventually have to be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Our corrupt government can only take what we give them. Its time to reread the Declaration of Independence as wee as the Constitution. Here is an except all should read from time to time:
        That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

      66. At first i thought our country was mirroring 1984 but now its looking alot more like idiocracy, i suppose its 30% 1984 70% idiocracy. Heed my warning As a farmer i can promise all dipshits out there that bawndo the thirst mutilator will not grow any crops electrolytes just add salt to the earth.

        • Are you thinking of Bondo?

      67. Olderndirt posted a video midway in the thread. Read his post. Watch the video. Backdoor. That says it all. Betcha President Trump is in on it too.

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