Army Officer Wants You Disarmed: “We Will Pry Your Gun from Your Cold, Dead Fingers”

by | Dec 6, 2013 | Headline News | 814 comments

Do you LOVE America?



    Within the upper echelons of our military there still remain men and women who are committed to the fundamental laws of the land. But assuming that all members of our military will be there to support the Constitution of the United States when our nation needs them most would be a mistake.

    Understand this: There are those within their ranks who would turn on their oaths and forcibly seize the very rights our Founders fought so hard to preserve without giving it a second thought.

    The following opinion piece, penned by Lt. Col. Robert Bateman, shows in stark detail exactly what we’re dealing with and argues in no uncertain terms that the American public must be disarmed in order for the United States to survive.

    The ideas proposed by Lt. Col. Bateman in It’s Time to Talk About Guns and the Supreme Court are nothing short of shocking.

    This is coming from an active military commander, and though not officially sanctioned by the administration, his work is obviously a propaganda piece designed to give the gun grabber initiative direct support from military leadership.

    Guns are tools. I use these tools in my job. But like all tools one must be trained and educated in their use. Weapons are there for the “well regulated militia.” Their use, therefore, must be in defense of the nation. Shooting and killing somebody because they were not “upset enough” over the loss of a college football team should not be possible in our great nation. Which is why I am adding the following “Gun Plank” to the Bateman-Pierce platform. Here are some suggestions:

    1. The only guns permitted will be the following:

    • a. Smoothbore or Rifled muzzle-loading blackpowder muskets. No 7-11 in history has ever been held up with one of these.
    • b. Double-barrel breech-loading shotguns. Hunting with these is valid.
    • c. Bolt-action rifles with a magazine capacity no greater than five rounds. Like I said, hunting is valid. But if you cannot bring down a defenseless deer in under five rounds, then you have no fking reason to be holding a killing tool in the first place.

    2. We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers. That is because I am willing to wait until you die, hopefully of natural causes. Guns, except for the three approved categories, cannot be inherited. When you die your weapons must be turned into the local police department, which will then destroy them. (Weapons of historical significance will be de-milled, but may be preserved.)

    3. Police departments are no longer allowed to sell or auction weapons used in crimes after the cases have been closed. (That will piss off some cops, since they really need this money. But you know what they need more? Less violence and death. By continuing the process of weapon recirculation, they are only making their jobs — or the jobs of some other cops — harder.)

    4. We will submit a new tax on ammunition. In the first two years it will be 400 percent of the current retail cost of that type of ammunition. (Exemptions for the ammo used by the approved weapons.) Thereafter it will increase by 20 percent per year.

    5. We will initiate a nationwide “buy-back” program, effective immediately, with the payouts coming from the DoD budget. This buy-back program will start purchasing weapons at 200 percent of their face value the first year, 150 percent the second year, 100 percent the third year. Thereafter there will be a 10 year pause, at which point the guns can be sold to the government at 10 percent of their value for the next 50 years.

    6. The major gun manufactures of the United States, less those who create weapons for the federal government and the armed forces, will be bought out by the United States of America, for our own damned good.

    Excerpted from Esquire Magazine via Sipsey Street Irregulars

    You won’t see the establishment media publishing arguments from top military leaders in support of the Second Amendment. Sadly, however, those who would take away our right to defend ourselves have been given a limitless platform to push their agenda to the masses.

    Hundreds of thousands of services members, both active and retired, have put their lives on the line to uphold those rights which have made our nation great. There’s no doubt that they will do so again when the need arises.

    But on the flip side of that coin are potentially hundreds of thousands of others who have no qualms about “just following orders.”

    A report earlier this year from well connected philanthropist Dr. Jim Garrow claims that there is a new litmus test for military leadership:

    I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks.

    “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”.

    Those who will not are being removed.

    Obviously, Lt. Col. Robert Bateman passed the test with flying colors.

    (Hattip SHTFplan contributor JustMe)


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      1. I guess we are luck Bateman is not in charge. Of course, most people will NOT comply and will, by hook or by crook, keep their guns for when they are needed. Funny how the left reads the 2nd amendment differently from patriots.

        • “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. This test has been going on since the late 90’s. It just has been on fast foward under Obama.

          This article just adds to the list of traitors.

          • It is obvious that those military officers who support the ‘plans’ of the administration are advanced. Those who do not agree have been ‘removed’ (fired/retired) from positions of authority.

            This administration will use whatever means available to advance their plans. When desired legislation fails to pass, they will use agencies like the EPA, executive orders or the U.N. to advance their goals.

            Backdoor gun control is here: no lead means no bullets

            “It seems that back door gun control is in full effect in the United States. Why? Thanks to Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), we can no longer smelt lead from ore in the United States.”

            “What this all means is that after December 2013, any ammunition that will be available to US citizens will have to be imported, which will surely increase the price and possibly come under government control.”


            The UN Arms Treaty (that Kerry signed) “would require countries that ratify it to establish national regulations to control the transfer of conventional arms and components has government controls on IMPORTED guns and supplies.”


            This administration will continue to PUSH for the Senate to ratify it.

            • BraveHearts will go kick their ass…. they ain’t getting his!

              • I’m old, they can lkely out wait me. On the other hand, the only answer this guy gets was gven 3000 years ago. “Molon Labe” you MF. I assume Brave is still coughing up his corn flakes.

                • I called this a few weeks ago. I have posted here and have called in to The Word From The Trenches and said the same thing on air. They will simply out wait us.
                  We have two choices
                  Turn this around by any means necessary NOW.
                  Bitch and watch our country go down the drain, only to die under tyranny.
                  The problem with the second choice is that our children have never experienced freedom. I am speaking of children 20ish and younger.
                  Even those that are/were home-schooled and have a grasp on the situation are severely outnumbered by those that are brainwashed. The fate of our children’s future freedom rests upon our shoulders.

                  • The shits going down no matter what there dude…

                  • Yeah, outlaw, they keep harping about guns on TV too… all this emphasis on some shooting that took place months or years ago… Its all to try to prepare people for gun control.

                  • To be truthful, I don’t think they can out wait anyone thats not already old. This thing is starting to come apart. They don’t have 20+ years. Once it gets bad nobody is going to give up their guns and his kind is out numbered, the whole army is out numbered. When the cities go they cannot stop anything and won’t have troops that even try.

                  • I would love to disagree with you, but you are completely right. The .gov has nothing but its own agenda now, and the will of the people went by the wayside about 10 miles back. The Republic has been lost many years ago, probably dating back to at least FDR.

                    The problem with most Americans is apathy. We will bitch and moan while our freedoms are lost one at a time until they are gone. It is kind of like someone plucking a hair a day off your head until one day you wake up and realize you are bald.

                    There are many folks in America that would like to turn things around, but the problem is getting enough people on the same page to make a difference. Meanwhile, our “lawmakers” and I use that term loosely, are fleecing us and will make us prisoners of our own making. People on the dole are too stupid to realize this, and enjoy the freedoms that working Americans provide them courtesy of the feds. They are a large portion of our crime and drug problem. While I don’t agree with current drug policy, that is a story for another day.

                    America is all but over, but I guess we’ve had a pretty good run. It’s a sad situation.

                  • Outlaw, hate to wear out the story about the frog in the pot, but they have used that to the point that even us older folks, over 20, don’t really realize what freedoms we have already lost, or maybe I should say given away. I sure do miss the old days when you could walk into a hardware store and buy a stick of dynamite, or just pick up your Sears or Wards catalogue and order your favorite gun and the mailman would deliever it right to your frontdoor, no questions asked. Many young middle aged people probably can’t even believe it use to be that way. Trekker Out. Si vis pacem, para bellum!

                  • “The Beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it” Thomas Jefferson

                  • The frog in the pot is an oldie MT, but damn if you are not spot on in your assessment.
                    Paranoid, I can only pray that what you say holds true.

                  • Back in censorship land again.


                    Get active

                • I second that ” MOLON LABE” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  • A lot of us talk big like we will never give up our guns, but what if a collapse is slow and very controlled like now and they out of the blue tomorrow come to your home with about 6 police officers. Will you not answer the door or will you truely defend and take them out? That is what is going to happen on a controlled collapse, an all out one we don’t have to worry about that, we will have true and large groups of patriots taking back our freeom and not letting DEMS or GOP in the new land, they will never add laws and we can do what we want, as long as we dont hurt anyone else period!! Stay out of our lives, Only source of government should be military and that is it. No dept of edu, dept of nannies, dept of agriculture or any of them.

                • Para, I sure hate to say this, but as we always say, not to change the subject but, this should endup right below Cuzzin Jim. She sure does have some pretty bags of saline solution, but man is she ugly! Trekker Out.

                  • B.F.D.; so some mid-level sissy in uniform talks trash-who cares. He’s only a Lt.Col., he wasn’t even good enough to made Fill Bird Colonel (O-6). Just another wannabe looking for some position in the government or some public interest group. The combined forces of our entire military and all LEOs (>4,000,000) aren’t nearly enough to round up ever gun and gun owner. All any severe gun restriction will do is create another black market like the drug trade which currently only interdicts 5-10% of all drugs smuggled into this country. TPTB are outgunned and outmanned and they know it, and it scares the shit out of them. Keep prepping and don’t keep all your stuff in one location. Remember: it took more than 1,000 federal, state, and local cops 24 hours to do a cursory door-to-door in a very small town in Mass. and they still couldn’t find one severely injured teenager. They’re all bluff hoping folks will believe the hype and just comply. But we know it’s all bullshit for show.

                • I would love to be there the day this guy needs a gun and doesn’t have one.I’m keeping my guns and considering how much older this guy is than me,he won’t be around to pry anything from my hands,my children will inherit all my guns and I have a lot of them,as a matter of fact,I’m going to buy more.The military needs to give this loony bird a psych evaluation,anyone that would make the comments this guy has made should be tried for treason,the second amendment is part of the constitution and if he won’t defend that part of it,he is breaking his military oath and has said as much.This clown is obviously unstable and should be forced to resign and given a dishonorable discharge.Maybe the next administration will hold him to account,the current regime certainly won’t.

                • Lt. Col. Robert Bateman our thinking was not if we pry YOUR weapon from YOUR cold dead fingers FIRST!

              • Peterson, for the first time you said something I can agree with. That’s good. Now if you would just stop picking on KY Mom, we’d all look at you under a better light.

                • LOL

            • Are you fairly ready for the civil war there KFC?

              • Let them TRY.

                The ONLY thing that is preventing a type of torture state of control is the 2nd Amendment. You look at these countries in which these basterd dictators hold on to power, and get it in the firstplace. Lack of a well equipped citizen army. Every last person should realize that they don’t just want to enslave everyone physically, they want your mind and brain also. It is one issue to keep people corralled, and an entirely different story when they keep people confined within their own thoughts.

                Fighting for the 2nd Amendment is reason enough to avoid being lobotomized from God knows what these f’ers have in form of nano-technology and working with brain chemistry like what BO is trying to push, including mapping out the brain. Being a self contained vegetable within your own body is reason enough to go down to the last patriot defending the second and the Constitution.

                • A fact about the Second Amendment most Americans have never heard

                  The Second Amendment: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”

                  “Well-regulated” circa 1787 meant, simply, “KEPT IN GOOD ORDER; WELL-TRAINED AND EQUIPPED.”


                  • KY:
                    You are right on with that.
                    Kept in good order – clean and will fire when needed.
                    Well trained- to work with others to know how to repel enemies.
                    Equipped – means modern weapons with parts and ammo.

                    Good stuff KY. THANKS
                    AIM SMALL MISS SMALL

                  • another FACT ppl dont know nor understand to bear arms means to use them on all these traitors weather causeing harm planning to cause harm training to cause harm etc all who work for the crown corporation THEY ARE A THREAT TO YOUR LIFE PROPERTY LIBERTY AND FAMILY act accordingly grow up become a man its past time and just because those who refused to grow up past generations is not excuse they will only keep this up till your all dead if not stopped

                  • My favorite part of the Second Amendment is where it says – THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE.

                  • Great Job KY MOM…

                    Let me take this a step further:

                    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

                    Like you said Over two centuries ago “WELL REGULATED” meant well-trained. Self-regulated. Disciplined.

                    Here is more:
                    The Militia referred to anyone capable of serving in a “well regulated Militia.”

                    In other words, anyone.

                    The people.

                    And it was this group of people who would be well-trained in the use of weapons and military tactics that would serve as the check on the government’s standing army.

                    It didn’t even necessarily refer to defending one’s country from a foreign, invading enemy.

                    That’s what the national military was for, and I’m sure the militia would gladly join in in that event.

                    But more importantly, the militia was that group of people who would band together and defend their liberties from a tyrannical government.

                    The “free State” didn’t refer to the individual states of the union, and it didn’t refer to the federal government either. It meant “free country.” Free from DESPOTIC RULE.

                    So, to preserve a free country, well-trained and self-regulated militias, composed of law-abiding and capable individuals, should serve as the check and balance on a government that’s bent toward tyranny.

                    Oh, and that “The right of the people shall not be infringed” part….
                    In order for this militia to be able to adequately defend liberty, it needs to possess at least the SAME CALIBER OF WEAPONRY used by the government attempting to oppress its citizenry.

                    The better weapons we have, the nicer our government becomes to us.

                    Bateman needs to put THAT in his pipe and smoke it!!!

                  • Like it was said above, most those remaining in high rank are those who sniff Oshitbird’s posterior. This shitbird Col. will be one of those who will “become one” with the hemp noose. I hope I get the opportunity to either kick the chair out from under his feet, or see his silhouette in the mill dots of my scope.

                  • I remember, if my grasp of history serves me rightly, that the last guy who said/did something like Bateman said was named king george. Sent his kiester packing too. People are getting just about fed up. This douchebag will send others to do what he is scared to do himself. I knew guys like this man back in the day in the service, cowards all…

                  • I tried to explain that to a bunch of face bookers a couple years ago but they just didnt understand how terms of that period could differ from today

                  • The most positive affirmation about the 2nd amendment, no matter how you argue it, is the right to KEEP arms. The government just simply can not come in and confiscate your guns if no criminal charges, search warrant etc have been first established on an individual case by case basis.

                    Obviously, even a poorly trained, disorganized militia may not be capable of effectively “bearing arms” , but they by default must be able to at least KEEP arms to train with , the ultimate goal of deployment as an well trained organized militia. Even members of the elite SEALS team at one time are untrained.

                    In other words, the moment the words “militia” and “keep” are written, the right to keep arms in your home is sacred and synonymous with a free republic. The next most important word is INFRINGED. No question that violation of this word in the 2nd amendment is ongoing.

                  • The supreme court interprets the constitution,not you,not some deranged army officer,not the president.The supreme revisited the second amendment in 2008,District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held in a 5-4 decision that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual’s right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home and within federal enclaves. The decision did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment extends beyond federal enclaves to the states,[1] which was addressed later by McDonald v. Chicago (2010). It was the first Supreme Court case in United States history to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense.[2]

                    On June 26, 2008, the Supreme Court affirmed the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in Heller v. District of Columbia.[3][4] The Supreme Court struck down provisions of the Firearms Control Regulations Act of 1975 as unconstitutional, determined that handguns are “arms” for the purposes of the Second Amendment, found that the District of Columbia’s regulations act was an unconstitutional banning, and struck down the portion of the regulations act that requires all firearms including rifles and shotguns be kept “unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock.” “Prior to this decision the Firearms Control Regulation Act of 1975 also restricted residents from owning handguns except for those registered prior to 1975.”[5].The court made it’s decision and if you don’t like it,you don’t have to own a gun.

                • This article is satire… right?

                  If it’s not then someone is off their meds…


                  • We will end up prying full autos out of THEIR dead hands, as well as lot of other weapons systems.

                    Come on, Lt. Col. Bateman; anytime you feel froggy huckleberry.

                  • The day is coming when they will try this stuff…. Make sure you have FORMED TEAMS… don’t let the folks coming for your rights take you one at a time using “laws”. PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS…..

                  • According to Chris Hedges, from Truthdig website, the reason TPTB have so much control right now (part of the reason) is that we have no way to organize. The minute we try to get together to form groups, they have their surveillance mechanisms in place, they can see our comments on the Internet, they can hear our phone conversations– basically, this is a police state.

                    Without getting together with others, what chance do we have? We have to figure out a way to overcome this! In the old days, they had unions and what not… Some one needs to figure out a way to block the bastards.

                  • it goes on everday allday in ever town do you not see the crowns policy enforcers are they not enforceing crown codes rules adn statues or is that everones imagination is not the crowns military in every state do they not have there courts in every county those are not yours in anyway it is the crown corporataion not your government maybe they need to put redcoats back on em for ppl to see what they are eh

                  • lostwoodradio,

                    Of course I was stating the obvious and only “IF” people knew the truth of how the governance of this country has been changed…
                    To me it is truly amazing how this happened right there in front of us…

                • One thing Bateman might keep in mind: there will also be some “cold, dead hands” among the military who engage in this. The North Vietnamese understood how to defeat the U.S. military – by patient attrition, inflicting casualties that the enemy was unwilling to continue to sustain. The U.S. military is not almighty. They may think they are. It has already been proved untrue.

                • BI. What the bell

                  Let them try. They have been and succeeding. Where the battle roars.

                  They are all ready doing. What are we doing nothing

              • Dipsh!ts like Master Bateman have been sucking on the tit of the government for too long. Here’s my message to him.

                Come and take It!

                • My Reply to all the Bateman’s in the military and goobermint who think like shitbird l.t. colonel Bateman.

                  As so eloquently stated By General McAuliffe in his reply to the German commander during the siege of Bastogne.


              • Peterson, there IS a civil war coming, and that’s the real reason the bastards want our guns!

                • We’ll…. Ya! Didn’t think I knew that already?

                  • We only know from your posts that you are a bully.
                    How could we assume you actually know anything?

                  • You sound like a liberal.

                  • You ACT like a liberal Pete!

                  • How so?

                • I am afraid that you’re correct.

                  I consider myself a builder not a (military) destroyer, so have hope that there will be more rationality about a civil war than there has been. But I suppose that it’s all about control so there will be little room for compromise.

            • Easy question there KFC, have ya even bought and read Fernando’s Book yet?

              • You won’t get an answer. Just other giving reason why there won’t be an answer.

                • Ya, that ain’t no shit huh? lol

                • FB

                  You are often quick to come to the defense of little Peter, the resident bully.
                  Ya know what they say, birds of a feather…

                  • Anonymous,

                    There ARE a couple of things you can do to “organize” without tipping off the NSA/Police State….

                    1. Meet at a private residence with trusted friends and family to discuss the overall situation. This should be easier as people are waking up to the situation in this nation and are concerned/looking for answers.

                    2. When you are in person and discussing things, Agree to create a language of code words only your group can understand. Then, when you do communicate via phone, text, email, these words will be absolutely useless to anyone listening, recording or reading texts/emails.

                    3. Another great idea (and you see this happening) is forming “prepper communities” If you can afford it or IF you can pool the money amongst everyone in the group, buy a large rural plot of land and plan to make it your retreat. Create a commune there. Store preps there.

                    4. Have your teams formed and practice tactics on a regular basis

                    5. Use “Straight Line Communication” whenever possible. CB Radios and certain bands of Family Radios do not require licenses by the FCC. Furthermore it is nearly impossible for the FCC to pull the plug on these devices. Make sure you use your code words and language whenever communicating with your group over the airwaves.

                    This is just a start. I suggest you continue your research on Prepping for more creative ideas, but there are plenty of them out there. It is always good to have one or more recently retired military veterans in your group as they tend to know a lot of modern tactics and ways of handling different situations.

                    Keep your powder dry and Molon Labe

                  • Arch:
                    On point #1) Only if every one leaves all cells home since the NSA tracks those to see who gets together and where/when. Also, all computers with cameras and microphones need to be disabled and in another location than the meeting room. #3 They are tracking money, so you’d have to figure out a way to do this without attracting attention. Sure, you’re doing nothing wrong under the current law, but will a lawless government really let “ex post facto” prohibitions on new laws get in their way?

                    The rest is great!

              • Peterson, you know we may all make a joke or make fun of someone on occasion on this site, but we don’t make it an ongoing vendatta. But atleast KY knows how to play your game, just keep quite and let the rest of us respond to your stupidty. Where’s Braveheart when we need him, he always comes to the famlies rescue. Trekker Out. Wolverine!

                • Mountain I’ll try to not be such an asshole to KFC while asking her questions about where the hell is she coming from, and why she feels it’s important. Maybe instead of me thinking all she is doing is begging for attention is actually her showing how far behind she is behind when it comes to survival.

                • Darkstar…. How many names do you think the old boy has?

                  • Well he sounded like Braveheart, I thought he was just around the corner and he was gonna come and get you if you didn’t backoff. sometimes they sound kinda scary. Trekker Out. Careful!

                  • Ya he sure did use Bravehearts words, it probably is our man. Pretty upset as always.

                • MT, I’m BAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKKK! I’ve been “under the weather”, but I’m recovered and ready to kick ass again. I see Peterson is still being Peterson and eisen still being eisen. No problem, I’m restocked on preparation H and ready to deal with both of them. MOLON LABE braveheart

                  • I thought you were locked up and or dead the Braveheart. This place was mighty plain without you.

            • Well, we’ll just have to figure out a way to make our own bullets, like the moonshiners made their own booze when it was outlawed… no, they must not get our guns, no matter what… f…thebastards!

              And there’s the matter of download-a-guntoday technology… we’ll figure out a way.

              I don’t think I will ever vote again… I hate democrats and republicans both!

              • Figure out a way???? There is a way, not that complicated really. There’s also a shit load of ways to do a lot of things that most people on here do not know or understand…. That’s life I guess

                • Oh, but of course, YOU do understand, right peterson? You are, after all, so much smarter than the rest of us…

                  /sarc off/

                  • We’ll this stuff isn’t magic…. Want me to KFC on the mexican X-ray truck, would that make you feel better about me?

                  • No.

                • Pete ,
                  You can buy a swaginging tool to convert empty 22 sheels into jackets for cast lead bullets .
                  It allows you to create FMJ’s used with a gas check for higher velocity rounds.
                  cast and swage your own ! The more you get self sufficient in the Personel defense department the better off you will be . Even an old single shot sharps in 45 -70 has potential , no gas system to foul and it’s not ammo sensitive. May not be good in a close quarter firefight but is adequate for long distance harassment. If you get a modern produced version rated for smokless powder you have the option of using both black powder or equilvent ( not recommended due to smoke signature during the day , but ok for night use ) and smokless powders .

                  KNOWLEDGE IS POWER





                  Semper Fi 8541

                • Trent…is that you?

            • @KY Mom- I agree with you, but will add that it does NOT matter if the Small Arms Treaty is ratified or not. A treaty does not have to be ratified by Congress in order for the Executive branch to use cabinet level and department level regulations to “live by” the treaty. Case in point would be the Law of The Sea (LOS) treaty, which has not been ratified, but we have been living by since at least 1994. And obama has already demonstrated he is more than willing to use cabinet and department level regulations to “legislate around” Congress, such as the newest EPA regs, halting the deportation of wetbacks etc.

              As for the military, I think most would be amazed to find just how many frighteningly self-righteous, pompous bureaucratic, zealous tyrants there are in command positions. I’ve ruled out the likelihood of active duty military standing-down in case of Martial Law. Besides the purging that has taken place, our military have NEVER had a larger percentage of enlisted and NCO’s who were not American Citizens. And they’re not going to be beholden to the Constitution- they’re beholden to the gubmint who will use the hope of citizenship and being reunited with their familial hordes after they were allowed to immigrate here as a reward for their service. To 3rd Worlders in the military- it’s going to be “us vs. them”. We’ll be seen as an obstacle.

              OTOH, I think a reason this purging has been stepped up is that oblather is sensing that the military is historically close (in sentiment and moral) to staging a coup. So, while I don’t think we could count on many active duty military standing down, I do think that we CAN count on a very important subset of Veterans, the recently separated (a large % of which still have contacts on Active Duty) to come and stand by us. Essentially, Us vs. The Hessians.

              • also- I’m waiting for the BATFE to redefine “sporting arm” again. They could do that, and with a swipe of the wordprocessor, we’d be SOL. Bye-bye AR’s, AK’s and their clones Saiga 12 ga.’s etc. Personally- I think that’s the next trick up their gun control sleeve.

              • One other thing to consider is the national guard and reserves. They make up over 50 percent of our military. They work jobs in the civilian world and attend training one weekend a month. They also train two weeks during the summer. Most of these men and women are our neighbor’s and friends. The majority of them will stand by our side. Most active duty members I believe will stand with us. It is the high ranking officers that we could have a problem with. The reserves and guard also have armory’s in our neighborhoods. This could turn out to be an asset rather than a problem.
                Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

                • The national guard will not shot Americans????? LOL alot.

                  Research Kent state, not only did the national guard shoot but they shot nice white collage kids. You have failed to grasp the most important thing about the military mind…it’s programed to follow orders. The intelligent are weeded out over time and only those who will lick up the chicken shit stay. Most of the people in the military are cowardly criminals or psychos. How sick do you have to be to sign up knowing you are going to be invading small pathetically equipped countries and assisting in the economic/physical rape of that country?

                  • How dare you talk smack about our “heroes”. After all it takes heroism to kill unarmed women and children while guarding the poppy fields and insuring the oil companies get their pipelines from the banker funded bailouts.

                  • Most people who join, do so in the deep belief that they are truely defending America; they do not understand the dynamic of the Hegalian Dialectic, or the long term mindf**k of The Frankfurt School.

                    They do not understand that they are being used. Not all people who join are stupid and/or evil. Some wake up, belatedly, others become like bateman.

                  • I was in College 30 miles fom Kent State when it hit. I’d have shot them too. You can call it what you want, that was a riot, pople burning down stuff that was not theirs. They were not trying to demonstrate their opinions. Those idiots felt they could behave like revoutionaries or rioters and the cops/army were supposed to be MR Nice Guy. Those “students” weren’t exercising their rights, they were throwing rocks at people with guns. Stupid is as stupid does.,

                  • Slinky

                    Sorry but just maybe times have changed. I have spoken with many in the guard. They will not go against the second amendment. You are wrong unless they are lying period.

                • I have had several acquaintances who were in the national guard. All were heavy drug users who spent their time doped up and sleeping around. They couldn’t manage a full days work but they liked their stipend and they liked going off on weekends for training and getting to shoot weapons. If they were called up in an emergency, I have no doubt they would be at the forefront in looting and they would shoot anyone they wanted.

                  • Meree

                    I cannot speak for other states. In Virginia there are mandatory drug test and random test. It has been this way since the 80’s. I know a couple that were kicked out. You will find bad people in all of society. I can only say that the majority will be there when we need them. Most people don’t like what is happening in this country. I still don’t understand why most don’t prepare though.

              • Roscoe,

                I disagree. It is not false info. It a matter of how you interpret the information while looking at the bigger picture.

                The ammunition manufactures may source their lead from secondary smelters that mostly rely on old car batteries. However, how long can you recycle the supply of lead from car batteries to provide lead for new batteries, ammo manufactures, and other lead end-users before supply and demand force prices higher and/or supply lower?

                Time will tell, but I’m willing to bet that lead ingots will be a hot commodity in secondary or black markets before long.

                • Spot on Roscoe.

                  Many products use lead in their production process besides bullets and batteries. Think about how much glass is consumed in this nation and the amount of lead it requires.

                  In addition, car batteries will continue to get bigger with larger onboard computers safety devices and electronics like wi-fi uplinks to satellite systems.

                  It is simply a matter of supply and demand and ultimately, the cost of bullets will rise dramatically due to competition for the same limited amount of lead.

                  It is quite possible that bullets may get so expensive that no one but the government can afford them. I believe this is the intention of the leftist gun grabbers.

                  • Archangel:

                    >>”It is quite possible that bullets may get so expensive that no one but the government can afford them. I believe this is the intention of the leftist gun grabbers.”<<

                    Even though this EPA battle with Doe Run may have predated Obama, I absolutely believe that this shut down conveniently plays right into Obama's gun grabbing plans. No doubt about that.

                • car batteries are not a good source of lead . you can ruin good lead by using battery lead . lead is not in short supply and can be had quite cheap . look for an article by Rick Kelter titled “Cast bullet alloys and alloy maintenance its worth reading . I found the article on The Los Angeles Silhouette Clubs web site

                  • Let me amplify that. The home hobbyist melting batteries down for lead risks removing himself and/or loved ones from the gene pool. Dross from battery lead, if allowed to get even slightly moist, evolves stibene and arsine, two odorless, colorless gases that can kill you Dead Right There with just one breath. Do not mess with car batteries.

                    Meanwhile, old lead pipe, X-ray shielding, sailboat keels, wheel weights, (except the zinc kinds), telephone cable covering, solder and pewter (for the tin), dive weights, etc., should all be collected and stored as preps. Not because of the loss of that last primary lead facility, but rather because lead will be a P/M in a TEOTWAWKI situation, and normal supply chains will be gone.

                • @YH, KY MOM, et al:My post was to inform. I was not aware that Doe Run produced only Virgin lead, and that bullets came from re-cycled, Batts., wheel balancing lead, etc.

                  Anyone who isn’t stacked to the roof at this point is behind the game. Wal-Mart, Sports Academy at least here in SC are well stocked at this time, even the .22 bricks of 525 Fed’s, $25/vs. $15 2 yrs ago…..get it now! 30-06, $15-$16/box of 20. If you are relying on a H/G only, you are already dead.

                  To other comments about regs., if they come, blood must be spilled, their’s. Are you going to die, probably, but until someone starts the fight, only then will ALL participate, a force they cannot overcome.

                  • Roscoe,

                    >>”Anyone who isn’t stacked to the roof at this point is behind the game.”<<

                    100% correct. Improved availability and stocked shelves has a way of creating a psychological false sense of security.

                    I suspect this is only the calm before the storm. I believe we are about to see significant ammo price increases AND shortages again, and this time I expect the prices to remain high and supply low once domestic lead supplies begin to shrink. If I'm wrong, then we'll be sitting on lots of surplus ammo.

                    If Homeland Security was anticipating a closure of Doe Run when they ordered billions of rounds of ammo, that could make a certain amount of logic in ordering all that ammo.

                    However, how could Homeland Security know with that much certainty that Doe Run was closing, well before the company made the final decision to shut down, unless it was a deliberate attack by the federal government to shut down Doe Run and the outcome was certain? Interesting.

                  • In my neck of the woods .22 are still unavailable and Im well connected…nobody can get any and if they do its a brick…for a whole store…I got mine but I buy more when I can out of habit…

            • KY Mom,

              Thank you for the informative articles. The smelter at Doe Run is something that appeared on my radar only a few months ago.

              Since learning about Doe Run and the EPA, I’ve been stocking up on reloading supplies whenever and wherever I can find them. Even though the ammo and bullet prices are still quite high compared to 2 years ago, I agree with Allen West. The prices almost certainly must go higher as supply and demand metrics take effect. I don’t believe the higher prices today reflect the reality of what awaits the ammo industry when the current “easy” supply of lead is exhausted. I can’t predict the future, but this can’t end well.

              Thus far, reloading bullet availability for the most common calibers is very good although expensive. I am not sensing any urgency or rush on the part of other ammo consumers to buy while the availability is still good. I can only say that I’m not waiting for the crap to hit the fan next year to start buying. I’m in the market right now!

              Thanks again KY Mom! Great job.

              • The current easy supply will continue indefinitely, since mines and smelters in Canada and Mexico will continue to operate, and ship here duty-free thanks to NAFTA. This may be a factor in the closing of Doe Run. Competition from cheaper sources could be a factor in making the choice to close rather than upgrade.

                • The Old Coach,

                  Good point. My focus is on a worse case scenario where the U.S. is without a single primary lead smelter and a major war erupts. Lead transportation prices will be astronomical for importation regardless of location.

                  I don’t know if the Lake City ammo plant has it’s own independent lead smelting facility. If it does, it’s a pretty good bet it’s exempt from EPA regulations under national security priority.

            • You can’t pry a gun from my cold dead fingers if your dead first numb nuts.

            • The 2nd amendment protectors will never be wiped out traitors like this guy make it to the top of the list for the patriot movement. We have a list as big or bigger that Odumbos. When the march begins keep your heads down.

            • Hmmmm…!

              OK fellow preppers, let’s view this ‘outside-the-box’..shall we?

              Since REGIME CENTRAL has obviously seeded Lt/Col. Bateman’s ruckus inducing screed for wide (net)distribution and commenting, it stands to reason that they’re “MONITORING” the feedback also!

              If I were given the job by REGIME CENTRAL to orchestrate this experiment/study/project, I’d hope for a pure EMOTIONAL response from the targeted social petri-dish medium(types) selected.

              ..what I’d wish to avoid is a resultant unexpected mutational process, where unregulated information and skill set/cross-training develops, then expands exponentially across cyber-space.

              So, in order to piss in Bateman & company’s Wheaties(social lab experiment), allow me to start the process via the humble links below:

              -(call it adapting to one’s environmental circumstances)-





              The 2nd one is a good starting point for “a surprise they didn’t anticipate”…(the sparky types here, will understand)


              BTW, y’all feel free to add to the kettle of knowledge!

              -cheers everyone-

              • And another thing to consider. -(apologies to F.R.)-

                How does one tell whether one is living under a dictatorship? The signs need not be so obvious as having Bathhouse Barry, coked to the gills and raving per the teleprompter.
                Methinks the following indicators serve as proof, we have a dictatorship now:

                #1.) Sweeping laws are made without reference to the will of the people. A few examples follow. Whether you think these laws desirable, is not the point. Some will, others won’t. The point is that they were simply imposed from “ABOVE”.
                Damn near all of them would never have survived a national vote/quorum.

                A.) Start with Roe vs. Wade, making infanticide legal, and subsequent decisions allowing late-term abortion.

                B.) Griggs versus Duke Power, forbidding employers from using testing of intelligence, since certain racial groups always score poorly on, en-mass!

                C.) Brown versus the School Board and its offspring requiring forced integration, forced busing, racial quotas, Affirmative-action and so on.

                D.) The decision that Creationism cannot be mentioned in the schools, nor Christian prayer allowed.

                E.) Decisions forbidding the public expression of Christianity or the public display of the TEN COMMANDMENTS.

                F.) The decision that citizens can be stopped and searched without probable cause.

                G.) The opening of our borders to mass illegal immigration…and 3rd world amnesty/immigration programs.

                ***(alphabet chronology continued further down)


                The above are major, major laws/policies grossly altering the social, legal, and constitutional fabric of this country…
                ..and all were simply imposed, mostly by appointed/unelected judges against whom, there is no recourse.

                -(except thru the reticule of a mil-dot scope!)-


                Note that there is no practical distinction between a decision by the Supreme Court..
                .. or a regulation made by an executive bureaucracy and/or..
                .. any practice quietly adopted by manifold several intelligence agencies and the federal jack-booted police.
                None of which required public approval.
                ..and again we’re given no recourse.

                -(except thru the reticule, of a mil-dot scope)-


                For that matter, consider the ongoing militarization of local law enforcement and the creation of Homeland Security’s Viper teams..
                .. who randomly search people/cars, or the vastly expanding spying network, targeting we Americans, by the NSA.
       the genital gropings/cavity searches by TSA.

                Next, consider the endless undeclared wars that one finds out about, often only after, the troops have been deployed. All simply imposed from above…again, we have no recourse.

                -(except thru the reticule, of a mil-dot scope)-


                In principle, elected officials are supposed to represent the desires of their electorates. In practice, Congress rarely touches on most issues of concern to we, the general public.
                Overturning any of the aforementioned laws, dictates, Executive Orders etc, are virtually impossible nowadays.

                -(except thru the reticules, of mil-dot scopes)-


                ***(continued from above)

                H.) Another measure of dictatorship, is the extent to which the people fear the government. Time was when governmental officials in general, and the police in particular, had to be cautious in pushing the citizenry around. A justified complaint to the sheriff/chief of police, brought consequences.

                This modern, new found aggressiveness applies especially to the federal jack-boot agencies.
                Today, many police departments and said fed-agencies, do as they please, and you/I have no recourse.

                -(except thru the reticule, of a mil-dot scope)-


                I.) Dictatorships characteristically monitor us peons very closely, using the secret police and encouraging folks to “rat” on each other. Both are now routine.

                Did you vote to have your email read, your telephone calls recorded, your browsing habits rifled and documented by the NSA or the FBI?
                No?…Thus, we have no recourse.

                -(except thru the reticule, of a mil-dot scope)-


                J.) Lack of constitutional government. This is not the same, as lack of a constitution. The Soviet Union had a somewhat admirable constitution. Its thugs in power simply, paid no attention to it.
                Our govt is past the ignoring stage, their trashing it, deliberately!

                See here, in post-modern Amerika:

                Note, the Fifth Amendment forbids self-incrimination, which means confessions obtained under torture/duress.

                Yet, bathhouse Barry’s regime openly tortures prisoners of war (a de-facto withdrawal from the Geneva Conventions, btw).
                Rest assured, there will be a similar domestic policy allowing such…soon to follow!

                Note again, the Fourth Amendment provides “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures and shall not be violated….”

                Again, they simply ignore it…and what is the only recourse they give us?

                NOTHING!!! -(except thru the reticule, of a mil-dot scope)-


                The First Amendment guarantees freedom of the press and ditto, the freedom of speech.
                The current regime employs the intelligence apparatus of the Leviathan state, to monitor the communications of us all.
                This action is highly intimidating, which is purely its intent.
                The fear of being monitored tends to have a profound chilling effect, on the willingness of honest sources, to say/post/e-mail anything to anybody, that the government does not like/favor.


                Thus enter (their stage left), the Lt/Col. Bateman types, the hired provocateurs of the regime’s agenda…

                Their ‘modus operardi’ is the last major step toward a global-government/miserable future that’s found only within tyrannical dictatorships.

                Thus they wretch the lie that, said net comms monitoring should not cause fear/worry. ‘Cuz only criminals/terrorist need tremble.

                This is most dangerous because, it is the mindless/anonymous/unaccountable bureaucrats embedded within the system, who ultimately authorize/sign-off onto vague policy decisions where, (per their individual interpretation of said given law or dictate), which in the end, manifests/results in a WACO, RUBY RIDGE or a 9-11 style event.

                The real fiasco is soon to begin!

                …and we’ve been given no recourse….

                -(except thru the reticule, of a mil-dot scope)-

                • …a Long Distance Operator’s take, on Sgt’s dictum of…

                  -AIM SMALL, MISS SMALL-


                  Good night all!!!

            • Bateman is obviously one of those Obama blow jobs. He is seriously flawed in his thinking. Wont happen. This guy and anybody he sends wont be run out on a rail, but run out with a rail up their ass. They want the United States to survive to do what THEY WANT. And that is complete control. Believe me they will die trying. They will use every evil tactic imaginable. Obama has been replacing all top military personal since he became president. Assholes and elbows and Assclowns.

            • Even though many are saying that this will not effect lead ammo production in the U.S. I think they are lying or ignorant. While many reclaimers will say they use lead form car batteries, that is not entirely true. Lead plates from car batteries can become heavily sulfated with minerals like calcium which is a bad thing for lead bullets.

              Think also of the industry implications… more product, jobs or resource just left the U.S. We now have to rely on imports of raw lead from Mexico? F%^& them! We have lost ENOUGH resources, jobs and money to countries abroad or across the border. What if the government decides that they don’t want to import raw lead from abroad anymore? Do we even have any car battery mfg plants left in the U.S.? Guess we will have to import all those too! You see where this goes…right down the crapper, again!

              Anyone who says the EPA is not being used as a heavy gov. hand to squash or control is AN IDIOT. They most certainly are. First they are trying to outlaw coal fired power plants (which is where MOST of the world’s electricity still comes from) Don’t think so? See for yourself:

              Coal in Electricity Generation

              South Africa 93%
              Poland 87%
              PR China 79%
              Australia 78%
              Kazakhstan 75%
              India 68%
              Israel 58%
              Czech Rep 51%
              Morocco 51%
              Greece 54%
              USA 45%
              Germany 41%

              Source: IEA 2012

              NOW the EPA is outlawing or banning most wood burning stoves! With the mini-ice age we have coming up, that is another HUGE mistake. Or yet another direct attempt to control and kill us further.

              There are more active volcanoes at this time than any other in recorded history…and all that volcanic ash WILL have a cooling effect on our global temperatures, believe it or not. Combine that with a weakening or non-existent solar maximum and you’d better bundle up! Especially if you can’t use your woodstove or fireplace.

            • Are they going to ban machine tools and steel too?

              How about physics and chemistry? Maybe that’s why they are dumbing down the schools?

              Teach the new generations the ways of liberty and freedom,
              and traitorous lechers like Lt. Col. Robert Bateman will not stand a chance.


          • I would say yes to shooting civilians to Obama and then do otherwise should the time come. Constitution comes first!

            • Exactly. I took an oath to defend the constitution. Period.

          • I hope his fellow troops are reading this, he could have an accident 😉

            • Genius I believe the correct military term is to frag that MFr.

        • Die motherfucker! Die!

          • As our ancestors fought to keep their rights, we’ll do the same, protecting this country against all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC!

            We’ll be ready. Sooner or later one of us will pry YOUR gun from your cold dead hands.

        • On topic, it happened before, it WILL happen AGAIN…

          RARE NEWS VIDEO: 1932 – young Patton, young Eisenhower, young MacArthur, Pres.Hoover, Walter Winchell reporting. I don’t recall this from any history classes. Do you think our military, acting on orders from a broken federal gov’t, will NOT march against our own citizens?? Think what you want to, but THIS DID HAPPEN only a couple of generations ago. Hard to believe but it was only 80 years ago !

          Will leave you truly speechless. Anyone ever heard of this? I’ve been a life long study of military history and this is the first i’ve heard of it…

          • Yes I am aware of this and this is when DC should have been burned to the ground and shoved into the river never to return. Traitors one and all. The nest of unclean birds.

            • @.02…”Traitors one and all…”

              RE: Lt. Col. Robert Bateman…He’s got a pair of SS wings and Deaths Head pin on his collar and a black, red, and white swatstika on his armband…Times change, people don’t. You can bet he’ll be one of those pullin’ the cord releasing the Zyclon-B into the FEMA extermination cells. F*ckin’ NAZI!

              • I wonder if Lt. Col. Bateman was discharged from the Service
                — Would his attitude toward and perspective of the U.S. Constitution
                return to sanity?
                — Miss Dee Dee

              • No, his is a hammer and sickle, remember, his masters are hardened marxists.

                Oh, how I long to be there to watch people split up his gear…

            • keep repeating this every day – Obama financed and armed the psychopaths in Syria who beheaded all the children in towns they entered, in some cases cutting out the hearts and eating them of kids, after they had been forced to watch their parents butchered. Some are saying it’s impossible to try and hang Obama at the Hague, but what prohibits that here in America?

          • Good Lord! That was some video! I had thought that things were worse today than in 1932. I was wrong. I guess that what we experience today is just more of the same. Tear gas, tasers, burn ’em out!

            Hence, Weber stated it correctly (from
            The monopoly on legitimate violence (German: Gewaltmonopol des Staates) is the definition of the state expounded by Max Weber in Politics as a Vocation, which has been predominant in philosophy of law and political philosophy in the twentieth century.

            It defines a single entity, the state, exercising authority on violence over a given territory, as territory was also deemed by Weber to be a characteristic of state. Importantly, such a monopoly must occur via a process of legitimation, wherein a claim is laid to legitimise the state’s use of violence.

          • Chip, glad you got to read it. Most people don’t realize what were up against. A lot of folks don’t realize just how many sided with England during the revolutionary war, or just didn’t care (indifferent). The same thing will happen again and the few patriots “will carry the day” while the sloths will reap the rewards and the cycle will once again start over.

        • OT but wanted to share with my fellow ZH’rs…

          RARE NEWS VIDEO: 1932 – young Patton, young Eisenhower, young MacArthur, Pres.Hoover, Walter Winchell reporting. I don’t recall this from any history classes. Do you think our military, acting on orders from a broken federal gov’t, will NOT march against our own citizens?? Think what you want to, but THIS DID HAPPEN only a couple of generations ago. Hard to believe but it was only 80 years ago !

          Will leave you truly speechless. Anyone ever heard of this? I’ve been a life long study of military history and this is the first i’ve heard of it…

          • I’ve known about this event for many years and I have preached the same message you just posted about the government. The government WILL attack the people and has done so in the past. The feds have been criminal for decades. Did you know that the feds murdered thousands of people during the Prohibition Era? Another known fact left out of the history books. The feds poisoned thousands of gallons of booze during prohibition and put it on the streets killing thousands of people. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant? Not in the history books! He caused the deaths of half a million people and had southern cities burned to the ground on his orders. He imprisoned journalists and anyone who spoke out against him and his policies. Is it any wonder why John Wilkes Booth and others wanted him dead? After learning about Lincoln & all the harm he did his assassination was warranted in my opinion. Lots of history out there that is never told or has been re-written.

            • I’m with you Jim. The more truth I uncover about my country the more I am ashamed of it…

            • Heck! Right after the Revolutionary War! There was the Whiskey Rebellion, Shays Rebellion, all Veterans of the American Revolution. Welcome to the Real World Baby!

            • Lincoln was a commie like most presidents since.

            • Abraham Lincoln like JFk ,bill Clinton and Obummer all received good press. They weren’t so great.

          • Boy, he’s a real “Teddy” charging up

            San Juan Hill, isn’t he?

            Another “Dingle Barry Raider.” Hackk–Patuu

          • Their mistake was not being armed

        • 14,000,000 Big game hunters with extremely accurate bolt action rifles in of itself is the worlds largest standing army if one considers it as such.

            • Yep, He was a horrible person. Did you know Mandela’s wife personally tortured people to death? She loved torturing people, even more than ole Mandela himself. Whenever you see the news portraying a person as a good guy just think of it as being 100% wrong and the opposite of what they said. Look into what Mandela did to South Africa and no one should be praising that horrible monster.

              • @Jim…The nightly main stream media fawning and gushing over this racist POS, who ordered the SA Boer Dutch farmers thrown off their farms and/or executed by the hundreds, is enough to make ya puke. The leftist/commie/socialist US mainstream media—just one step behind Joe Gobbels and the Nazi propaganda machine.

              • Jim:

                Mandelas’ wifes favorite torture was putting a tire carcass around a persons waist and setting it on fire. It would take up to 15 minutes for a person to die this way!

                • Yes, the heinous torture is called “necklacing.”

            • mandela was a commie, that’s why amerikans love him, beginning with bommie and his media.

              • Everyone best be checking govt flagpoles in their respective communities.

                If the flag is at half mast…you got problems.

                • lastmanstanding But if you have a Rebel flag flying at full mast then you got nothing to worry about!

                  • I fly old glory, pow-mia and Gadsden.

                    I do not every lower my flags unless it is time to change them. I build a fire to destroy them and say a prayer.

                    I never forget those who have sacrificed for my/our freedom…ever.

                    TPTB lowered the flag for Mandela…not for Pearl Harbor…now all living US presidents are going to the funeral…at our expense…again.

                    The corps lowered the flags on Dec 5…just like the gub.

                    Not one in a thousand gets that.

                • Talked to a friend in Idaho y-day…flags half-mast at home depot and lowes.

                  I do not support either. Please boycott them.

                  • @LastMan…It’s Pearl Harbor Day…declared a “Day of Infamy” by FDR! No mention of the veteran & civilian sacrifice in the media, nor am I seein’ any US flags at half mast in specific recognition. We are now a nation overwhelmed by multicultural zealots, racists, liberals, and with a rotting, biased, US education (now 26th in the world in science, 21st in math, and 17th in reading) system behind it all.

                  • Lastmanstanding:

                    For a real clear view of Mandela check out the Jewish magazine THE TABLET.

                    www tablet magazine dot com/jewish news and politics/mandelas jewish helpers

                    They seem very proud of Mandelas history and the communists that helped him come to power.

              • CommieHater:

                A little “nugget” I found today:


                Hmmmm. A black community organizer, a communist extorting and stealing from productive white people(but given a Nobel Peace Prize despite murdering people), owned the MSM, played the race card, devoid of any real leadership, captained an entire country into the toilet and third world status.

                Sound familiar? With any luck he also will end up in prison just like Mandela.

            • Check Out: These Horrific color photos of recently Murdered White South African folks!..CAUTION!! Very Graphic Photos of white woman hung upside down and gutted after being raped and left to die! With 1/2 Dozen More Gruesome murder victims of Black Militant antiwhite african animalistic murderers.

              FROM: Incogman’s Latest article Dated Dec.5th,2013 at Top of his website homepage/main page….Go to…

              incogman dot net Very First dec 5th article has photos mentioned right there!….THIS is what MSM-FOX-CNN-MSNBC-ET AL will NEVER report nor Show You folks of whats really happening in the Ongoing attempt to Mass genocide every last White person resideing in South Africa Today!

              You OWE it to YOU to Know the Real truth and View actual Photos, of the after effects of those Wild Jungle Animalistic Savages most call: Black folks and african negroes etc.

              And be assured! Mandella and his wife Knew of, fully approved of, and Endorsed what You are about to Witness when you go view these poor innocent Victims of said Savage Beastial Militant worthless Animal Blacks, who did these Horiffic Tortureous Murders and Rape-Murders.

              If not reported by MSM(never has never will be) and Left Unchecked…This is what will soon result when todays “knockout games” graduate and escalate to mimmic South African savages actions against White folks.

              Only it will be occureing Here in America to You or a white folk You know! Prepare yourself! Very Graphic Photos, with written article if you desire more info.

              • Africa is a shithole , always will be .

                Do not let it happen here.


                Semper Fi 8541

            • The Mandelas have indeed been accomplices of Satan.

              I hear tell that the flames of Hell sear with far more pain than any Mandela “necklace.”

              It is not clear why I am back in censorship again or whether it was intended or accidental, but there is little point in dialog here when responses take a day to appear and responses are often just spiked.

              I sure hope that several of you are my local neighbors, not just neighbors in the biblical sense.

          • Teacher says, every time some dumb son-of-a-bitch blames it all on the Jews, a one trick pony gets its wings.

            @Mac, didn’t you tell these Klan Klowns to cease and desist?

            • They’ll change their tune when the JEWISH Jesus Christ reigns as King of the earth from the JEWISH Temple on the JEWISH Mt. ZION!
              Typical DIM-ocrats.

              • They’ll change their tune when the JEWISH Jesus Christ reigns as King of the earth from the JEWISH Temple on the JEWISH Mt. ZION!
                Err dude.. Jesus is not impressed with the Jewish flesh one iota.
                Matthew 23

                23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
                23:2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:
                23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. (23:3-5) “Do not ye after their works … all their works they do for to be seen of men.”
                Should we let others see our good works?
                23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
                23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
                23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
                23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. (23:9) “Call no man your father upon the earth.”
                Not even dear old dad? Was it OK for Elisha to cry out “father, father” as Elijah ascended into heaven? (2Kg.2:12)
                How should parents be treated?
                Is it OK to call anyone “Father”?

                (23:10) “Neither be ye called masters.”
                But elsewhere slaves are told to faithfully serve their masters, and women are told to serve and obey their husbands.
                Does God approve of slavery?
                Should we serve God alone?

                (23:13-36) Jesus calls his critics fools (among other things like hypocrites and vipers), thus making himself eligible for “hell fire.” (Mt.5:22)
                Is it OK to call someone a fool?

                (23:13) “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!”

                (23:14) “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! … Ye shall receive the greater damnation.”

                (23:15) “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.”

                (23:16) “Woe unto you, ye blind guides.”

                (23:17) “Ye fools and blind.”

                (23:19) “Ye fools and blind.”
                23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
                23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
                23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
                23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
                23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
                23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
                23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
                23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
                23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
                23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
                23:18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
                23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
                23:20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
                23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
                23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
                23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. (23:23) “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!”
                23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. (23:24) “Ye blind guides”
                23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. (23:25) “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!”
                23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. (23:27) “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!”
                23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
                23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, (23:29) “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!”
                23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
                23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. (23:31)
                “Ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.”

                (23:33) “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”

                (23:35) “Upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias.” Jesus blames the Jews (who were then living) for “all the righteous blood” from Abel to Zecharias, whom he mistakenly calls “the son of Barachias” (see 2 Chr.24:20)
                Who was Zechariah’s father?
                Has there ever been a righteous person?

                (23:36) “All these things shall come upon this generation.”
                Jesus predicts the end of the world within the lifetime of his listeners.
                What the Bible says about the end of the world
                23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
                23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
                23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
                23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
                23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
                23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
                23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
                23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
                Let us not forget how he LOVED the bankers (Jews) of that time as well.
                Least we also forget the Jews said “let his blood be on our hands.”
                Now that this is coming to light, who is the race that is trying like hell to outlaw any reference of this? Tell ya what ole buddy, go ask Mel Gibson about your loving Jews when he was trying to make The Passion of the Christ movie.
                Who do you think is the antichrist? Wake up, it is and always has been the Jews.

                • Something tells me that the anti-Semites (the same ones that quote the Bible) are gonna conveniently skip all this

                  • The NEW TESTAMENT is not a part of the Zionist bible you idiot.

                    • To the Jew first…the Church dose not replace Israel oh ignorant one.

                    • Very obviously a shill for AIPAC. Not that difficult to spot, when you’re not a pro zionist bible thumper. (I know some of you religious people will misinterpret what I just said. Not a slur against genuine christians)
                      Not so newbie.

                  • The NEW TESTAMENT is not a part of the “Jewish Bible” idiot!

                    • And they all were written by man.

                    • The oracles of God were entrusted to the Jews. The Bible was written by Jews under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Only in the book of Daniel do you find the inclusion of the writing of a gentile by king Nebakanezer. Yes men wrote it, by the power and direction of God…the Bible is God breathed. I’m sorry to see so many rabid Jew haters here on this blog. God has and will judge the Jews for their forsaking of their Messiah, but God has NOT abandoned the Jews. God is not a liar, as so many here have made Him, by believing the demonic lies that the Jews are to blame for everything wrong in this world. Hitler also believed that, and look what he did with the help of those who believed him.

                    • HERE: Their Own Jewish Almanac defines the word “JEW”

                      Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”

                      — 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars).

                      Need me to RE post that Dec, 2012 DNA evidence Proof 98%+ of todays “jews: are really Khazars? Published by John Hopkins Hosp. and In Cahoots with israels Hebrew Univ Bio-Labs etc etc…DNA Published evidence that CONFIRMS, jews are Khazars aka Imposters and have ZERO dna or bloodline to any of the orig 12 Tribes…As Per a Jew scientist In Israel. I posted this facts info before. Will again Post it if you need it.

                      OR just remain in your delusional imposter-jews state of mind and Join silver sax and his sidekick not so much(he got That correct eh- not much) and reject all confirmed proof or facts and evidence as well as biblical scriptures that prove all they claim is BS.

                      oh and as for that Genesis 3:12 Abrahamic blessing from God etc?…..That is spelled Out fully in NEW test book of Galatians….Where it states that promie To Abraham WAS fullfilled BY Jesus, as its Jesus that IS the “SEED” promiced blessing to all families of earth etc..

                      AND Galatians ALSO states that it IS Christians also that are to recieve those OLD Test Promiced God Blessings…NOT “jews”…Christians you simple fools.

                      Its right There in Your New test bibles Book of Galatians.

                      ALSO Every one of you jew firsters and jew worshippers Fail to NOTE that all those OT covenant promices were made with 12 tribed Israel…NOT made with “jews”. AND furthermore that entire OT covenant DEPENDED on Israel tribe folks Keping Their part of the Bargain,contract, covenant Period…NO obedience to God? then NO more covenant nor any more blessings etc…

                      Nowheres in the entire bible does it state “Bless the Jews”…Its…NOT…In…The…BIBLE…Anywheres.

                      As the Jews own Almanac writers state modern day jew is NOT a proper word to use to refer to Israelites, Period.

                      pastor John Hagee and the rest of TBN-tv-preachers et al etc, along with Hagees org “CUFI” along with jew zios “AIPAIC” are ALL Swidnlers, scammers, Money grubbers, Liars, decievers, and worse.

                      John 8:44 Christs Own words! You(jews) are Of Your father the Devil(satan) and his lusts You shall DO…LIE-Steal-Murder etc etc etc…READ IT Fools.

                      You are too stupid to realize that by defending all issues jewish you Deprive jews of the ONLY way to Their salvation!…YOU fools should be Spreading Christs Gospel to jews. Nobody gets saved but Thru Jesus applies to Everybody! That means it Includes jews also idiots…Nobody gets any free pass to salvation. Nobody.

                      Jesus says so…What now? you going to call Him antisemitic or nazi also you fuckin idiots…Pull yer Heads Out of jews/+/pastor hagee/ass and Try reading New testement for a change if you call self christian.

                      How can so Many remain in utter Darkness,lacking of Truth with as many folks Here supplying every concievable proof, bible verse, Talmud verses, Rabbis own statements, and various other infos…Yet you remain Blind as a fool. And stuborn as a liberal kommie dem…

                    • Them guys, you are lying, or you have never read scripture, or both. Or at the very least you simply can’t grasp any of it… When Jesus addresses the religious leaders of His day, He condemned them for believing in their traditions first (termed the oral law and added after their return from Babylon). This oral law went outside the Law and Word given to Moses. Jesus was not damning the whole of the Jewish population (most of which actually accepted His claims). Jesus was contending with the leadership who rejected Him in favor of their traditions. He pointed out that to do so was to reject Him who was sent as the Word promised. This I’d why He said that they served their father the devil, because they rejected God’s Word by adding their own traditions to replace the Commands of God, just as you are doing. It’s true that most of the tv preachers are heuristics, whether the say they love Jews or not, because like you, the twist God’s Word for their own purposes. You also serve your father the devil for believing lies that are based in ignorance and hateful twisting of truth. You are typical of people who are easily taken in by idiotic ill conceived internet exegesis.

                    • Excellent post.

                    • That was directed to Simplicity’s Homestead.

                    • Simplicities Homestead: NO! It is YOU that is spewing Lies and You that Fails to notice that the word “jew” is Not even written untill 2nd book of Kings chapter 16, aprox 500 pages AFTER Page One of book of Genisis!

                      You Need research that word of “jew” and see when and How and Why it originated. jew replced the word Idumean. Which meant EDOM/Edomite aka ESAUS decendants, also EDOM means the color RED…RED as in every Bolshevik Kommie nations Flags which represents Violent Bloodshed in Their insane quest for a Kommie run NWO.

                      That fisrt was invented and began in russia BY JEWS. Bolshevik russian Jews. Thats documented Facts like it or not.

                      Moses-Abraham-Issac-Jacob and Many other famous bible persons of the OT eras were NOT a “Jew” nor were they “Jewish”. There never were ANY “jews” untill ONE of 12 sons of Jacob, named Judah grew to adulthood and had his own kids. Then Judah started ONE of the orig 12 tribes of israel. Long After, around 150-300 yrs Before Christ was born, judahs tribe began to Racialy MIX with cannanites, edomites, egyptians etc etc…by the time Christ was born, Most of entire judah tribe had MORE NON Israelite dna than those Khazars of Today!

                      Jesus said “I was SENT to/for the LOST sheep of the House of Israel…” NOT for the jews, but For the House of israel.

                      YOUR old testement bible Says that right after solomon died and his son became the New king, thats when the 10 NORTHERN tribes Split from the Other Two tribes of Judah and benjamin. THose TWO tribes were called “The Southern Kingdom of Judah”…BECAUSE as spoken BY Jacob WHEN Jacob Blessed his Two twin grandsons of Ephraim and Manassah which were Josephs twin sons born in Egypt, Jacob instead of blessing his son or first born son…Instead Jacob passed down His rightfull Birthright blessings to Those Two boys. Jacob Adopted both grandsons on the spot and said “They are MY sons now! Therefore I Now am able to pass the blessings and BIRTHRIGHTS onto Them BOTH, AND…

                      PAY ATTEN HERE DUFUS!…Jacob said “These TWO boys ephraim and manassah shall Forever be named and Known as ISRAEL from This day fwd untill even 1000 generations from now!…THEY grew to adults and Ephrain became the KING/Leadership of the 10 NORTHERN tribes that as Jacob said shall be KNOWN of as and Called “ISRAEL”.

                      That means JUDAH who eventually got nicknamed “jews” like Ohioans is a nickname for OHIO folk etc, judahs/jews were NEVER again called “ISRAEL” untill modern day, today HolyHoaxers swindled Palestine and did so by massive imposters that as Jesus said are the synagouge of Satan, are todays Askebazi Khazars who are really eastern european mix of mongrel+hunn+edomite(turk) and caucasian.

                      These so called “jews” today only Converted to Talmudic Judaisim in 750 AD. They have ZERO Bloodlines and ZERO DNA to ANY of the Orig 12 tribed israel the bible refers to…..I have Posted that dna proof of dec 2012 and earlier dna proof from 2001, BOTH dna info BY jew sceintists and the dec 2012 updated dna reports PUBLISHED by John Hopkins Hosp inst, IN Cahoots with Israel based Hebrew Univ bio labs etc…

                      You foolish deluded dumbed down evangelicals and so called “jewdeo christians” like the john hagee set et al, are wrong on Most all you preach regarding End times-Jews-state of israel-etc etc..But same as kommie stuborn liberals you never allow Any Facts or evidence to cloud your delusional falsehoods as taught by wolves in sheeps cloths aka todays(most) pastors. Especially if from that southern baptist bunch..Not sure why that group is so fake and deluded on all issues jew?…But they are.

                      READ the bible sections I am writeing of here, Read the NEW testement Galatians book, READ that Paul says new covenant of christianity Replaced the old covenant as that was Gods plan all along.

                      Jeramiah also tells judahs jews that very soon they will LOSE their covenant and are expected to ACCEPT the New one or else perish. One part in Jeramiah has God speaking To jeramaih and He tells jeramiah “Go Tell your people the jews of judah that I am NO Longer Their God and They are NO longer MY chozen people, for They have forsaken OUR covenant too many times and this last time was IT!!!”

                      Hmmm..”No Longer MY chozens” eh…Thats GODS words TO Jeramiah…I am repeating it Here to Wise You up(if thats remotely possible?).

                      READ REV 2:9 and 3:9 and JOHN 8:44 for an great description of what Christ Himself said about “jews” aka Talmudic Pharisitical types…Christ was a Nazerene from Galilee as were the apostles also…NONE were “jews” NONE practiced “Talmud” beliefs…Christ Rebuked pharisees and Talmud and ALL jews who were folowers of talmudic pharisee rabbis…Thats Facts, Bible facts. so Wake Up!

                      I will again Post that Khazar jewish scientists DNA info if you need it. But if like some here after seeing that Proof, from jews no less, you simply blow it off and slander Me for what They say or write of themselevs…I wont waste my time bothering. So yank your head from false preachers and jews asses and let me know when You are ready for REAL Fcats based Truths ok.

                    • WOW! Huge Amen on that post Them Guys, Well done.

                    • Impossible to explain truth to someone determined to blindly believe lies. You’re cherry-picking verses out of the Bible instead of receiving the “whole counsel of God”. It’s a HUGE mistake to try to pervert Scripture to fit your own warped, hate-filled soul.

                    • I could never live in a democrat hell hole like NY, but if I by chance did, I would be making a run for the border! Why is there not a steady stream of people leaving?

                    • BI Love your EQ posts. I find them very informative (not to mention just plain fascinating). You’re right – let’s get back to the point of the article. The second amendment. This is a serving member of your armed forces, sworn to uphold and protect your constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, saying that he is willing to override the constitution and commit acts of treason. WHile I got drawn into the alternate discussion about the zionist agenda, let’s not lose sight of the point of the article.
                      Not so newbie

                      (BTW we are not allowed to be armed. That means there is a surprise in store if our “government” tries to overstep the bounds too far)

                    • The shot heard throughout the country could well be fired in NY
                      Anyone who allows themselves to be disarmed will most likely be a victim of further persecution,
                      History has a way of repeating its self

                    • Kulafarmer

                      It appears the religious “scholars” are firing salvos across the bows here…and not in NY..

                      While they copy and paste biblical cannon fodder to lob against their opponents..we’ll be busy acquiring more suitable ammunition..physical.


                    • 10-4
                      Never heard of anyone puting down an attacker thumping them with a bible,
                      A kid did drop a giant with a sling and a stone though!
                      Ill stick with the stone approach
                      MOLON LABE

                    • This was for Possee
                      Not sure why replies are detached

                    • I think it worth mentioning that the grandsons and granddaughters of the jewish Bolshevik Communists who seized control over Russia in 1917 and then proceeded to disarm, then mass murder – in excess of 66 million (per Solzhenitisyn’s estimates) are now fully in control of the State of New York.

                      Thus, what we see coming out the evil, totalitarian, White gentile hating brains of Michael Bloomberg and Chuckie Schumer – is a preview of what these modern day jewish Bolshevik Communists lust to impose on all 50 (or is it 52?) states.

                      The goal is to resume the mass murder of White European people, to pick up where their ancestors left off in the former USSR. To facilitate that, these cowards have to disarm the gentiles first and render them unable to fight back against these Communist killers.

                    • The goal is to resume the mass murder of White European people

                      Not like white Europeans have ever have ever participated in mass murder.

                    • TUCKER: GREAT POINT!! And it don’t take a degree in rocket science to realize that soon after fully disarming all of the White folk is America. Thats when all whiteys who now are filled with massive whitey guilt, and always take sides with africans and mestizos etc will see the REAL reason for mass imigrations and especially Illeagles into our nation since 1965. 1965 is when Another New York jewish dem lib kommie US Senator named Jacob Javitz spearheaded and non stop demanded His sponcered “Imigration Reform” bill laws to be passed.

                      After 2+ yrs Javitz finally got it passed with the Help of newly elected Ted Kennady also a dem lib kommieboy.

                      Most folks blame teddy but he was a freshman jr senator and only assisted Javitz the antiwhitey jew lib kommie new yorker senator.

                      Soon as it was made new imigration reform law MSM interviewed Javitz asked how he felt to see HIS bill passed?….Javitz Spread his two arms Wide apart and said “OPEN the FLOODGATES! and Let it Begin!”….Well since then, 1965 to Today our usa population as Increased Over 105+ Million More added, and 99% are NON white’s.

                      The TRUE reason for Javitz Bolshevik jew kommies plans will be known by all even white guilted african or mexican mestizo lovers and defenders. These NON whites that have already been trained all their lives with Religious Marxisim aka “liberation Theology” by the Vatican and jesuits etc for at least last 100 yrs in their Homeland nations like mexico.

                      Will be used in the exact same way and methods that the jewish bolshevik kommies of russia used Their russian “Peasants” class of folks to join With the aprox 1/2 of army that became the RED army soviet run by Trotsky.

                      The USA Has zero “peasant class” so Jacob Javitz and his zionist bolshevik jew kommie pals in america had to Import a bunch of NON whites and NON loyal to america types to do as You stated here…That being once whiteys disarmed fully…Them zio bolshie jew kommies that have ALREADY overtaken the entire fed govnt in a bulletless Koo, are going to ARM as many africans and mexicans as possible…Then declare that they are the NEW “citizen army” Hobammy drools of creating…

                      Thats Goal number ONE for jewish bolshevik Kommies everywheres worlwide…To Mass exterminate every last white and christian so none are left to stand in their way of a nwo aka Jew world order.

                      These Are the Facts. It Is their overall far reaching plans spoken of in The jews Own writings like Protocols of elders of zion, Talmud, Zohar, Kabala(or Cabala) and many personal books and articles wrote BY jew kommies the past 100+ yrs….The evidence is all Buried across Russia, poland, Ukraine and a dozen more eastern euro nations…Anywheres one digs a few feet down across those areas hes very likely to discover Mass Graves…Graves Filled by WHITES and Christian whites.

                      Yet ALl we ever heard and still hear today is “Oy Vey SIX Million jews! Evil Nazis! on and on…Like one poster wrote…There Never were 6 million jews in all europe when nazis came to power! Not even 1/2 that number!

                      Their talmud teaches jews its a VIRTUE to LIE to goyim gentiles and steal from and murder goyim too…They saturate their minds with self chozeness and see all others as meere animals, which jews want to again sacrafice animals…Think that wont include Human Goyim animnals as jews sees gentiles as?…Wake Up whiteys!

                      Russia in 1917 had just over 1/2 of world jewery There and Look what the end results are!….Today usa has over 1/2 of Grankid jews of russian Bolshevik Kommies Here. Chompin at the proverbial bit to Unleash hoards of animalistic savage brute Low life brainwashed kommie taught NON whites, against….YOU whiteys!

                      I Know most folks do not like racial issues…I dont neither. But You should desire facts and truth as without that YOU are a sitting Duck, soon to be HUNTED down to satisfy the never ending evil Blood Lust that is so prominantly displayed across most every Page of the jewish babylonian Talmud verses and teachings.

                      Talmud even has a verse that Warns all jews to never allow a goyim gentile to see or Know what those talmud verses teach about! It states that any jew who lets a gentile know whats written in talmud verses, thats akin to murdering every last jew worlwdie…Because it goes on to state that If gentiles ever find out whats wrote in jewish talmud books….It will infuriate gentiles to learn what PLans jews has for YOU if a goyim gentile!

                      In other words if gentiles discover jews Plans for us gentiles that will cause jews to be Hunted down worlwide and killed off….Thats what Their talmud teaches jews.

                      What the fuck kinda religion teaches stuff so hatefull against the folks that are the 99.99% “Others” that jews must be warned to never let them discover their jew plans or it spells an end to jewish folks everywheres?!

                      Only Their Holy books teach that stuff…Demented hate and despicable teachings against gentiles and especially against christians and whites.

                      Now they Hyjacked total usa govnt and banks and msm control….Yet still idiots refuse to awaken and Learn what is being Planned for Their near future!…Indeed most rather support and defend all those whos plans I speak of, while totaly Ignoreing facts and truth..Well good luck remaining in Darkness and idiocy once they release their NON white Hoards of savages you foolsih ones…Then you get to see How bolshevik and zionist jews will Repay and Thank You!….Check 1918 to 1990 Russian History for advance insight to Your future scenarios for so often defending those demonic satanic devils of Satan.

                      And Please skip the screeches that “Not all blacks nor all jews are like that”….Of COURSE not All are that way…BUT! While not every black in usa uses affirmative action “Preferences” and “Extra Rights” afforded to colorod folk….They ALL Do benifit by those many Policies.

                      Same goes for the “good” jews…They may not agree with kommie zios or bolsheviks…but when jews Gain by whatever means they do against gentiles…ALL jews as Group benifit usually…And so far how many jew or black has we all heard speaking Out Against such crap?

                      Not…Hardly….ANY…ever…Do so. Why Is That? When are all them GOOD ones going to Stand and reject such policys and talmudic teachings etc?…Good luck waiting for that to occure I think…..Another 50+ million Illeagles into usa and you wont Live long enough to hear any speak out!

                    • The reason history always repeats itself is because man doesn’t take a different path…we or they, I should say always choose war.

                      Because it works for them.

                      If you really think about it, you always get the same lesson in life over and over until you get it and change your path.

                      It’s called the “fork in the road”. I recommend the scary path, the road less traveled for best results.

                      -10 this morn.

                    • yep, and whats the NRA doing about it? probably fucking negotiating! more rights away, under the color of law, illegal laws

                      I think the Dick act plays here, and its time to sue the mayor of NYC personally

                    • The Jews ARE Israel and the 12 tribes.

                      Those who hate the Jews do Satan’s work and couldn’t possibly be saved.

                      (1 John 3:15 NIV) Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.

                      Jews wasn’t condemning all Jews. Only those who rejected Him. All the disciples were Jewish and so was the Apostle Paul.

                      Someday a remnant of the Jews will accept Jesus as Savior and Lord just like they’re doing today.

                      (Rom 11:26 NIV) And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.


                      (Zec 12:9-10 NIV) On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem. {10} “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

                    • The Jewish race-religion, or whatever it is, is the problem, once a human being gets programmed to be “me only” and to hell with everyone else then you have a problem, because once the ego latches onto this exclusionary mentality, watch out. This exclusionary idea taught to Jews and Christians that God chose us is the problem.

                      I’m tired of this world going to hell because of religious ideology and I tell you what, next time I’m whooping it up drinking whiskey my fist might choose some Jew or Christian face. We don’t have to put up with this shit. I am not going to put up with these filthy bastards any longer. Time to scrap.

                      This problem isn’t limited to the Jews, We can see this ugliness clear as day with white nationalistic Christians who think they are the chosen ones. By some unbelievable twisting of Bible logic, white Europeans magically become the chosen ones, the lost tribe of Israel. Yeah, they’re lost all right, lost in Bible bullshit. Those with twercked Bible possessed minds just have to be chosen. Many of these ‘tards really believe they are the “true” lost tribe. As you can guess, they can’t get along with anyone either.

                      So it isn’t just a Jew thing, its a “I’m chosen” thing. Well imagine my fist in your face you separatist, we are a melting pot now and are going to have to deal with it. You got a problem with me then I got a problem with you. I’ll stand side to side with any other ethnicity and beat the crap out of those people possessed with exclusionary ideas.

                      The problem with this book is that it gets people all worked up trying to be the teachers pet with God. Fearful of not being the favored and a end life trip to hell. I’m not sure why people worship the Bible god, he doesn’t seem very human to me, he seems to be very much like a murderous Jewish supremacist.


                    • In Revelations, Jesus condemned the “Fake Jews”. As a white semite, I have nothing against the jews.

                    • @ durango kidd. I have never thought to connect Mt. Etna and Vanuatu on a three dimensional plane. Where it intersects land is southern Peru and then the far southeast corner of the Caribbean plate above Venezuela towards Trinidad. Here is where you may be very correct. In 1812 Venezuela had a massive earthquake, the same year the New Madrid went and the central portion of the San Andreas. Here is the kicker. Mt. Etna was erupting severely for 6 months during 1812. How about that!

                      Mt. St. Helens erupted with a volcanic explosive index (VEI) of 5. So did Mt. Vesuvius 1935 years ago. It would be a little bit of a strench for Mt. Etna to get up to a Mt. Pinatubo of 1991 that was a low VEI of 6, but I could see Etna getting a little bit bigger than St. Helens that was a low 5.

                      I think you have something in regards to the San Andreas and Mt. Etna as the southern San Andreas and the Cascadia fault went off after Etna and a very large earthquake destroyed Catania in 1693. The Cascadia fault went off in 1700 and the southern San Andreas went off between 1693 and 1700.

                      It is very interesting to note back in late March 1910 Etna was very active and during the next 2 to 3 months later Vanuatu had four 7+ earthquakes, with the largest one ever recorded on June 16, 1910 that was a 7.9. The most recent 7+ in Vanuatu was a 7.1 on Groundhog Day in 2012.

                      This is very intriguing and I think there is a connection.

                    • A three dimensional plane? Hmm, all my geometry teachers must have been FUBAR.

                    • Them Guys says are you referring to the “New Testament” written by Josephus Flavius? Christian, Jew, Muslim all the same evil cult of religion and hate. The rest is just semantics.

                    • Quite. Where do all these zionist lovers come from? It has been known since the holohoax was disproven that the zionists (Rothschild) banksters are behind all of what’s happening. Little thing to think about: the Nazis gassed 6 Million jews between 1939 and 1945. In 1939, there were only 2.3 million jews in the whole of Europe, including Russia. I can do basic arithmetic. Think about it.
                      Not so newbie

                  • When you get called an “anti-Semite”, that just means a jew thinks you are a smart gentile. Wear it with pride. The worlds eyes have opened and the sheep are coming to life. Do I think that they will be expelled yet again? Yes. Yes I do and with good reason.

                • err Dude,
                  Jesus is a Jew.

                • .02 Congratulations on taking all of the Scripture you quote OUT of context! God has not forsaken His people Israel, nor has He ever negated His covenant with Abraham the father of Israel …
                  Gen 12:3
                  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

                  Num 6:27
                  And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

                  Num 23:8
                  How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed? or how shall I defy, whom the LORD hath not defied?

                  Zec 8:13
                  And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

                  Zechariah 2:8
                  8 For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

                  Isaiah 14:1
                  For the Lord will have compassion on Jacob and will again choose Israel, and will set them in their own land, and sojourners will join them and will attach themselves to the house of Jacob.

                  Rom 1:16
                  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

                  There are many more Scriptures, but I will add this…Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD (יהוה), when I will make a new covenant (בְּרִית חֲדָשָׁה) with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD. For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put my Torah (תּוֹרָה) into their inmost being and inscribe it upon their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will they need to teach one another and say to one another, “Heed the LORD”; for all of them, from the least of them to the greatest, shall heed Me — declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquities, And remember their sins no more. (Jer. 31:31-4)

                  …and one more.
                  Rom 2:10
                  But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

                  Jesus was and is and forever will be the God man, a Jewish Messiah. You will never understand Scripture unless you understand the Jewish context of the scripture you abuse and misapply.

                  • Yeshua was not a “jew” he was Hebrew and of the bloodline of David(Judah)in which makes him and him alone heir to be King of Kings(Judah)and Lord of Lords (Levite-Priest line from Mary).The word “jew” simply means one who lived in Judea- a geographical location.So,by geographical location Jesus was a Galilean.

              • Tell me, SilverSax, will that jewish Jesus be teaching/preaching out of the jewish bible, the Talmud?

                You know, the one that blasphemies Jesus’ mother and ridicules Jesus…

                • Knock, Knock SilverSax:

                  I am anxiously awaiting your answer to my question.

                  • Here’s my answer –

                    What need does the incarnate Word of God have for a paper Bible?

                    • I don’t care how much food, ammo, guns, water, Kevlar, etc, etc, etc you stockpile.
                      I don’t care if you live in the remotest stretch of the wilderness.
                      I don’t care if you’re a better shot than Dirty Harry.
                      I don’t care if you have a Death Ray.

                      If you have the attitude that you will never, ever cooperate with a particular race of people –
                      if you think an entire race of people is “to blame” –
                      If you think n entire race of people is against you –
                      or if you think a race of people is inferior to you –

                      You’ll be among the first to go, because survival is about – first and foremost – cooperation.
                      Bad attitudes are a weakness. Uncooperative loners will die off rapidly.
                      Don’t like it? Too bad. Truth is truth.

                    • The first to go?? hahaha. You just don’t get it. I’d love to see some khazars come into the wilderness and try it. haha You have no idea what you’re talking about! Your coward type will go just like they have over 100 times before.

                    • In my experience, the cowards are the ones who call others “coward”. All the rednecks at my school called me “coward” till I kicked one’s ass. Then they stopped.

                      You’re no different. You’re just a keyboard warrior with a big mouth and no balls to back it.

                    • @ “mountaineer”

                    • This a test Example

                    • “We the people” need to band together. Unfortunately that probably won’t happen, or it will happen in clicks. Hate will inevitably bring your death. Try, please try, to work together. It won’t be easy but no one said it would be. Start talking to your fellow man/neighbor – but quietly. You know what I mean. You can’t do it alone. You just can’t. One coal only burns so long. Many coals burn better and longer together.

                    • SilverSax:

                      For your answer thanks.

                      If you are not a jew, SilverSax, and if you have not read the torah and the talmud, then I suggest you have some important reading to do.

                      You are correct about Jesus not needing a paper book. He has already written his decision as to what is going to happen to the people who believe the torah and the talmud and what is going to happen to the teacher/preachers of those FOUL books. You say you are a Bible believing Christian so I am going to assume you have studied the Bible and have read and believe in it.

                      Did you not read where Jesus said the only way to be saved is to believe in HIM. Do you not know that the jews are taught that Jesus is an imposter? So unless it is a jew that has decided that Jesus was God in the flesh where does that leave that jew that believes their bibles, the torah and talmud. I dont have to tell you where that leaves them Silversax, Jesus already has.

                      And where does that leave the teacher/preachers that are spewing the filth out of the torah and talmud, Revelation tells you what Jesus has planned for them.

                      Israel, in the Bible, is the church of Christ. It has nothing to do with that stolen piece of land in the middle east.

                      Jesus welcomes any peoples into his church, Silversax, whatever their ethnicity. But he also has already stated what happens to those who choose not to believe in him.

                    • PO’d GRANNY: That last post from your “Adversary” silver sax fully Makes Our Point! All he/she posted of race issues in the middle section of that post fully details and decribes Talmudic jews and zios to a T!!

                      They believe Only They are Chozens, Only They are Real “Humans” and ALL non jewish folks are Goyims! Goyim means herd animals like cattle! They think We gentiles are Inferrior and that we have zero souls from God as Only a jew has a real soul given from God to a Real “Human”.

                      He stated if You think an entire race is to blame. Well what does jews think? They blame ALL gentiles not just a single race!….Jews always promote jews as 100% totally Innocent “Victims” and the ONLY victims anybody should aknoweledge or care about. Notice that NO other group has 100 or more holyhoax museums. Even though jews are less than 2% of usa POP….Jewish hollywood never yet made a single movie depicting the evils bolshevik kommie Jews did nor the 150-200 MILLION that jew kommies exterminated!

                      Yet hollywood has made probobly 800-1000 movies of nazi holyhoaxer movies. And all they whine of is six million jews…What about the Other non jews deaths? Oh they do Not count in jewish minds..

                      Yes in their warped minds jews are always innocent victims, never do wrong, and ALL non jews equals evil nazis waiting to Pounce on poor unsespecting self-chozen jews….Am still trying to figure out which is worse? Them type jews and hoaxers? or the 50 Million stupid stuborn evangelicals who refuse to believe anything else But jew fables and lies and their phony wolves in sheeps clothes preachermen?….Maybe Both are equally ruinious and destructive to americas future and Ours eh?

                      PS: Silver Sax, Thanks for makeing MY points! Well Done!

                    • I’m still waiting to see the Scripture quoted which states that the Church will replace Israel in the New Testament Age.

                      Because it ain’t there.

                    • On the other hand, I can quote several Scriptures which state that Israel will be restored to its land in the Last Days.

                      Because they ARE there!

            • The museum of London has a copy if this dated 1908, predating Hitler.

              Look fucko… The jews have been engineering debt enslavement for many years.
              Six million people don’t get killed because their hair is parted on the wrong side.
              Got it. Do your own research.

              They crashed the currency in Germany…extended tons of debt and then when the people could not pay…they confiscated family farms, businesses and real estate.
              Then you have a homeless STARVING German families….conditions where ripe for revolt…and when the Nazis party came along… you went to the beer hall…got fed, drunk, sang, cheered, felt proud…then you got a Tshirt (Brown shirt with a pin, and arm band) Then it was off with your pals to go fuck up the people that destroyed your life and were starving your family.

              I’ve never seen a clear answer from any history book or from any liberal professor.
              I actually knew someone who lived through this…that’s what they told me.
              IT WAS PURE PAYBACK.

              I’m not promoting anything but the truth.


              ps. The same source told me to buy gold and silver.

          • that is an excellent number for within the US. but i think china has a 40,000,000 member standing army. relatively small with 1.4 billion citizens.

            • Bigtoe, I really don’t think China has that big of an army, I may be wrong, I have been before. But we’re not going to China, atleast I hope not, but who knows, and besides they would have to get them here. As the article states, we may have to be more concerned about our own army rather than anyone else’s. Trekker Out. Si vis pacem, para bellum!

            • @BigToe…Last number I read for the size of the Chinese army was 65,000,000.00. With the one child population control policy, most families aborted girl babies, because they couldn’t do the work of a male. So most of this army is “sans” women, which according to sociologists leads to aggravated cultural and societal dysfunction. You can expect all of these Chinamen to be put on the chopping block in the near future to restore order. Bad news for our 1.5 million man war machine.

          • .02 only problem is 13,000,000 of these only shoot their guns about 6 shots a year. 3 times to see if it’s still sighted in and 3 shots at the game their hunting. Some don’t even shoot the 3 times to see if it’s still sighted in, they figure if they got their deer last year, their gun is still good to go. I’m sure this don’t apply to any on this site, so I won’t get any down thumbs. Trekker Out. Practice, Practice, Practice!

            • Last year I went hunting, I shot once. Got my Antilope. Why waste ammo? If it hits the fan, I don’t figure to get off any significant number of shots. I’ll give away 99% of my ammo. To old, to stupid, to run.

              • Paranoid that’s just the reason your having withdrawl pains, and over stocked with ammo and can’t or won’t buy more. Problem is that out of those 14,000,000 hunters that .02 was talking about, 12,000,000 probably only have 12 or 14 rds, left in a 20 rd. box, most ain’t Paranoid enough to be really stocked up on ammo for SHTF if you know what I mean. Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!

                • Well, that’s one thought and it MIGHT be true of, let’s just say a quarter of that number. ALL of the hunters I am aware of or have known over my life (I’m a Viet Nam
                  vet so you can guess my age) have all been “thinkers” who are aware of the goings on around them. They take each day as it comes but deal with whatever is on the plate for supper when its served. That 14,000,000 hunter number is very conservative as that is the number of permits sought or given. The real number of “Hunters” is significantly higher, especially considering the multitude of Veterans and other folks who had their fill of killing in war and won’t do it again unless it is served up to them on a plate they have to take a bite of… Trust me. Those who are aware of the lies and thefts may not be jumping up and down saying, “Hey, look at me,” but they are awake.

            • Practice a minimum once a month, preferably with moving targets and carrying a load on your back.

              A few words of wisdom…a man with many rifles should not be feared nearly as much as a man with a single rifle who has learned to master it.

        • Hey Bateman – you pig…. let’s dance….

        • “We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers. That is because I am willing to wait until you die, hopefully of natural causes.”

          Spoken like a true coward, he obviously doesn’t want to do the task himself, note the word “we”, he wants to wait until folks are dead and can’t fight back. Come on down Bob, if you can take them you can have them. Let me know when I can expect you, by yourself. “Come and Take It”

        • This guy is more of a tool than his guns!

        • TRY to come and get-em!!! WE will be prying there cold dead fingers from there weapons and using them take our country BACK!!! AMEN case closed!!!

        • “Well Regulated” He seems to believe that only the Government can train you on the use of weapons. He also seems to be the type to shoot you over a football game just as he seems to be the type to be hunted to the ends of the earth likes the Nazis for following illegal orders as well.

          • The .gov and its military will teach you to keep your finger off the trigger and stick it up bommies arse.

        • Ya some pantywaist Lt Col wannaabee runs his piehole and we’re supposed to be afraid…not impressed…he thinks hes trained eh…ya like a puppy…me?(and a lot of you)use guns almost daily…its second nature to shoot…and this clown as with all of barrys morons bleed out just like any deer/bear/coon/and other critters that we deal with almost daily…what a joke…by the way Braveheart how are you handling the ice…I see your area is under the stuff….all of you be safe and be calm…we win regardless of the weather or the Lt Col with big mouths!

          • Braveheart is MIA.. might be a power failure or some such thing. I sure hope he is OK.

            • Thanks for the info 🙂 hope he/all are well…

            • .02:
              I haven’t heard from him, I pray he is ok. We will need him when the SHTF.
              Where Oh Where Can Our Braveheart Be Oh where Oh where Can He Be????
              I just hope its something simple.

              • Its been at least 3-4 days since I seen him post anything. Is there anyone that really knows him?

              • REB,.02, and Sarge, I’ve been under the weather but I’m recovered and back in true form. And yes, as everyone here knows, this type of article is right up my alley. To the Batemans of the world I’ll only say BRING IT ON AND LET’S SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU! MOLON LABE braveheart

        • Under this administration I’ll bet he makes general in the next 3 years.

          Years ago this type of anti-American, anti-Constitutional talk or writing would have cost you your career and your commission.

          They are turning our military into fairy land.

          • Our milifairy are mercenaries and pimps for bommie.

          • The way I’d see it, is talk is cheap. I think in his shoes, I’d tell them what they wanted to hear and get myself into a position to make a difference.

            I’d be a ‘sleeper’. The one they didn’t see coming. The bullet to the back of the head. I’d be the last thing a traitor sees.

        • The good Lt Col is a POG, rear element lap dog. Do you REALLY think he carried a gun for a living. Not hardly he’s spent his career sucking his way to the top. I do support his first amendment right to an opinion.

          I’m just amused by some of these guys who get a Purple Heart for a paper cut, and a bronze star for a mortar round that landed somewhere in the green zone. While he was at the O club, or on the golf course.

          After this article he is sure to be fast tracked for his anti american, anti constitutional position. Hopefully his own men don’t FRAG his ass for being a dumb shit.


          • “Fragging” has, historically, proven to be an effective tool for getting an officer’s attention. 🙂

        • People like Bateman are lucky I’m not in charge.

        • “For our own damn good”. Yeah, right. I would much rather be shot to death than stabbed to death, or killed with a base ball bat–like they do in England.

        • Embarrassing POS. this assclown cannot be in the same army I was. Must be a REMF who is scared of his own shadow. I’m sure he feels his apply officer ass is “well qualified” to possess weapons.

          Funny think is that this mental midget has no clue what the oath he took meant. If anyone think well regulated militia meant only “only arms for a standing army”… Must have failed history. Probably doesn’t know why the constitution was written either.

          • Don’t overlook the fact that he has taught history to our future military commandeers while at West Point.

            BTW, GO Navy, beat Army.

        • Thank you for the Hattip Mac, I am honored.

          Col.Bateman is not the first high-ranking officer to say what he thinks about your Freedom, only the latest.

          These will be the Amerikans who WILL fire on you…

        • Don’t get mad, get even. Use your imagination and I am not talking about shooting or killing anyone but out think them and outwit them. It is high time the tables were turned on this regime, they are so out of control now that they need to be reminded that this is our country, they work for us, they can and will be replaced. The carpetbaggers have overstayed their welcome, they have shown their true colors and just how evil an administration can be. The regime is incompetent, insane, evil, ignorant and despicable, time to kick their sorry asses out the door for good.

          Now all we need is a hero, are there any left?

        • If anyone comes to your door in the name of the “government” and demand your guns, you have a legal, moral, and patriotic duty to shoot them dead in defense of YOUR constitutional rights. WE are the government. They are OUR employees. they work for US and We have not given them permission to collect OUR guns and never will.

          Yes, they may pry that weapon from your cold dead hands, but make them call a truck to collect the dead bodies of their treasonous comrades.

          Give the phrase, “Back up the truck!” a whole new meaning!
          CATI !!! ENGAGE !!! 🙂

          • DK, you get an Amen and a Wooo Woooo!!! “We have not given them permission to take our guns”. Damn straight! And we never will…at least no true American will!!!

        • I wonder if that guy ever spent time on the battlefield.

        • This man is a vile disgrace to his uniform and all of us who served. If you are military, current or former and are not a member of Oath Keepers, you need to join. As a former Marine and current police officer, I can tell you that there are plenty of us in uniform who take our oaths seriously. I guess Bateman never got that memo. Absolutely disgraceful.

        • If the people think the right is any better than the left; then you are under Orwellian control. The right and left have been bought and paid for before the people where even born. Who owns the U.S monetary system brought in on the date 1913?

          Not the Private Federal Reserve controlled by a bunch of blue bloods in Europe could it? Disband the 1 Party dictatorship; the Siamese twin 1 party system we have in the U.S. If you can’t figure out both sides are played on the stage while your being imprisoned by now you will never figure it out. The founding fathers were against political parties. Educate your selves and look it up; investigate it.

        • This Coward has already painted himself as a prostitute and will fight or kill anybody for a paycheck. He has no loyalty to either his Oath or his Country. Watch out for these NutJobs folks as they comeback and infiltrate our Society Stateside. If you know of these idiots and where they live, just paint a large yellow stripe on their curb in front of their house, for the rest of us in the know.

        • This is no surprise to me.
          1. 75-80% of military will do unconstitutional things when asked or ordered to.
          2.Over 95% of LEO’s are sheeple and will do the same.

          • BJ: Respectively, you do not know a tinker’s damn about the military or ex-military, having never served yourself. USMC 0311 is the norm, not an aberration.

            Back up the truck !!! 🙂

        • GREAT VIDEO ON SGT REPORT CALLED, “Detroit- a STORY IN FASCISM”. It said exactly what I tried to convey the other day, except they filled in all the details I omitted.

          Basically, what happened In Russia, when it fell due to a Trojan horse (corruption between politicians and Wall Street) also happened in Detroit. When it was successful in Russia, the elites simply tried the same thing in Greece (and succeeded!), then went on to Spain, etc, and now are doing the EXACT SAME THING HERE IN THE UNITED STATES!!!

          Please watch the video! Neither democrats or republican politicians are trustworthy!! They are all stealing from us, raping us!!!

        • At, article titled, “NSA tracking 5 billion cellphone calls a day”. Now I know why we have the most sophisticated and wide spread surveillance system ever created in history. they want to make sure we don’t organize, come together and have a fighting chance when civil war breaks out. they want our guns– just look at all the dis-information on TV. they are doing to us what they did to Russia, only they are doing it more gradually here. (Watch the video on Sgt Report titled, “Detroit– a Story in Facism”. Neither right or left wing of the government is trustworthy. They are conquering us by dividing us. Its extremely important to realize there is no right or left. It is only us (regular citizens) versus the mafia elite.

        • he can poop in one hand and want in the other and we will see which one gets filled up first


        • Anyone know what planetary devastation is? It’s very scary. Word of advice, don’t let the first few seconds of the video fool you, you have to keep watching towards the middle of the scene.

          Can you get ready for this???

        • Those with such ideas lack the FEAR OF GOD.

        • What I want to know from this Baitman dude is just who does he think he’s talking to? “…only guns permitted…, we will pry…, we will submit…, we will initiate…, police department’s won’t sell or auction…” Uh, who died and put you in charge?
          And you say you’re gunna out wait us? Ha! Ha! Ha!, Nice try. Americans are not afraid of you tyrannical psychopaths. Go disarm the muslim brotherhood and get back to us on that.

        • What kind of name is Bateman?

        • Now because I don’t kiss the butts of the crazies on here I will get called all kinds of names.
          If you are meeting in private houses talking about overthrowing the government then you are a traitor, pure and simple. What, don’t you like giving healthcare to out of work veterans families who had their job sent to India by Bush? You don’t want people who carry a concealed handgun to at least know how to fire it, and make sure their not a thug criminal? You probably don’t think that planes hit the Twin Towers either.
          Bunch of crybabies who drive $40,000 vehicles and sit around eating barbeque while half the world starves and you still complain.
          The United States is ONE NATION under God, not 300 million individuals who want no rules, no laws and no government. The very very worst generation in the history of this great country is baby boomers.

        • Col. Bateman should be raped.

        • Even though he’s not in charge, Col. Bateman is a traitor and must be arrested and prosecuted as such. As a military officer, he swore UNDER OATH to uphold and defend the US Constitution (and that includes the 2nd Amendment) against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. Violation of that Oath constitutes treason, nothing less, since it calls for the destruction of the US as a Constitutional Republic and the surrendering of its sovereignty to a hostile foreign power – Israel.

        • And it’s ‘real funny’ how the gun grabbers never discuss the 2nd Amendment in its entirety. They ALWAYS leave out the ‘…THE RIGHT OF THE INDIVIDUAL TO BARE ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED’.

        • And it’s ‘real funny’ how the gun grabbers never discuss the 2nd Amendment in its entirety. They ALWAYS leave out the ‘…THE RIGHT OF THE INDIVIDUAL TO BARE ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED’.

      2. His name is appropriate, this seems right out of Hitchcock movie.

        • If this attitude is ramped through the military our country is truly in a bad place, I don’t think this is the case because many of the men and woman who make the military a career are generational and I can only hope raised right.

          Strange now that gays can openly serve it appears true patriotic commanders will now be forced into the closet.

          • That sort of attitude, if rampant, would most likely be within these officers whose appointments to high-profile or sensitive positions or promotions to senior ranks were politically driven or motivated.

            If anything, the Enlisted and warrant officer ranks are probably free from that kind of corruption. And these are the backbone of the military, not its privileged officer corps.

            • Agreed Canadian Vet and your comment below.

              99.9% of the officer corps stop being warriors after Company CMD, and almost all non-combat arms O’s work tirelessly to become political puppets.

              I lived through Clinton, and thank God retired 2006. I saw what a lighter version of this attitude did to the military of the 90’s.

              Not sure anymore if we can recover from what seems a very pervasive and persistent ideology, I do hope I’m wrong.

            • Sorry to say, but that ideology IS rampant among the enlisted as well now. I’ve been out for one yr now after 10 yrs of service. I HAD good friends who chose to stay in and keep taking the govt cheese. My true brothers left about the same time I did. Folks ill give it to ya straight…at best only half will honor there oath when the time comes. Sorry to say I HAD good friends who drank the cool-aid and stayed in for the benefits…now and after it goes.

              God Bless and stay safe.

              • I’m sure you are correct. Sorry to say but I left the military about 14 years ago and we were all patriots and would never waiver from our Oath. A friend of mine just passed his 22 year mark and told me just last week about how bad it is now. He has two years to go for retirement as an officer and doesn’t think he will make it due to the Regime’s tactics destroying the morale of normal people. The gays have taken over and everyone is forced to take gay acceptance training and crap like that. Wow….our country is in the hurt locker.

            • You might be surprised how many members of the armed forces are in it for a paycheck. You might not be surprised that a percentage of the armed forces has ACTIVE and OPEN gang membership. That is Crips, pracitising Muslims, Gangster Disciples, Nortenos, Surenos, Bloods, ad nauseum. Take a tour of some of the bases at night and see how dangerous these areas are. How many weapons “walk” from the armories into the streets of LA, Chicago, NYC, Camden, Baltimore, New Haven, Philly, and Stockton?

              These low life thugs in uniform have been trained to invade homes, they can pick us off from a distance, and they are not deterred by the display of a gun.

              • Yes you’re right…speaking from experience, enlisted barracks are like a prison block now with all the freakin gang banger thugs.

                • Vincent/Truth: Not sure which branch you served in but I’be been in for 11 years now and have never seen what either of you are reffering to, nor have I ever seen weapons “walk away” from armories, infact iventories are so strict that if one single round comes up missing all hell breaks loose.

                  I’m not disputing that there are gang affiliations with-in the service, but it’s not as wide spread as you make it out to be.

                  As for the NCOs and senior enlised that I know– I can tell you our reply to Bateman and those like him would be “with all due respect sir, HELL NO!” HOWEVER: I do worry that the incomming generation of enlisted has been/is so brain washed by the MSM and PTB that they will not have enough understanding, courage or morals to even see anythnig wrong with taking arms against American citizens. — That’s why I’ve stayed in; to have as much influence as I can on the next generation.

                  • “They will know that free men stood against a tyrant. That few stood against many, and before this battle is over, that even a God-King can bleed”.

                    —King Leonidas in 300.

                  • Vincent thanks for your service and trying to make a difference. I was an Air Force SF. I’m here to tell you that when the mil personell have to go through gay sensitivity training and train to quell civil unrest on a regular basis…we have crossed the rubicon. The gang problem and thug problem in general is rampant. It is every bit as bad as I stated. Good luck to ya Vincent. I hope you wake up soon.

                  • G19WOLF, sure glad to hear in that respect the military hasn’t changed. Many years ago when I was in the Navy the only small arms that was in the hands of the sailors was a 45ACP that the Quarter Deck watch carried when in port, and I remember when one went missing on base when we were tied up at the pier, the whole base went almost on total lock down. Every one had there bags checked before we could leave base for liberty. Trekker Out.

                  • I think a lot of the thuggery is within service/support units. I just didn’t see anything like this (in until 2001) in airborne or rangers. That said, some of the support units we dealt with had their scum components. Sad, sad, sad how the military is going downhill. Oh, and I didn’t join because I was a patriot, needed to make a change, and stayed for about 10. I would venture a guess that 70% of the military are there for the steady paycheck. Many may have started with pure intentions, whatever those are, but after that first re-up, many are there for the camaraderie and the paycheck.

                  • The real danger with today’s military is that the vast % of recruits are the product of history’s most effective mind washing and indoctrination programme ever. That system is the public school system – ya know the one where the constitution is regarded as a quaint relic already?

                    I’ve been saying for several years now that many gang members are utilising the military to do their own prepping for shtf. If you grow up in a world where only the most intelligent, ruthless and strong survive past age 30 this makes perfect sense.

                    A very rare few of those military gang members will have studied history & the bible alone at night (just as Them Guys does here on this site) in order to self-educate themselves. From this new knowledge they will have drawn their own conclusions when considering the best way to give their own children a future. Certainly I believe history will recall the true heroes of our darkest hours as being more likely to come from these ranks than the apathetic WASP white collar class.

                    Part of my reasoning behind this theory of mine is the increasing numbers of children who are being punished for their independence of thought by being medicated into submission in school. Once these kids are able to come off those meds as young adults their ability to think for themselves returns. The military still offers more life opportunities to a young man with a poor education, who is not afraid of hard work to progress themselves through life than standing on a street corner selling illegal drugs does. Prison has never looked that attractive a proposition to anyone with half a brain and military service & drug pushing carry equal risks as regards ending up dead or mained.

              • Some of us ex mil can pick off varmits from long range too.

                • I love hunting coyotes in the off season.

                • Gone:
                  Wait for me I love to shot long range too.
                  Lt. Col. gives lower than a VARMIT.
                  AIM SMALL MISS SMALL.

                  • My best guess is there are a lot
                    of Carlos Hathcocks among us

              • My apologies Vincent. My comment below was for G19TMBRWLF. Not you. I misread.

              • Unfortunately I can’t disagree with this. Some colleagues of mine who got attached to aircraft carriers for a deployment were telling me how they were instructed to keep their civilian attire to “neutral” colours and what parts of the ship to avoid so they wouldn’t stray into various gang territories.

                And when I was in Afghanistan (I know, I’m actually Navy but in a joint/purple (Navy, Army and Air Force) trade like mine, one’s element largely only determines what we wear in garrison, not where we serve; I’ve been to sea, worked at a strategic level and worked in a tactical field setting and my Primary Leadership Qualification was the Land one, only slightly easier than the one dedicate to the Infantry), we were actually warned to stay out of the American lines after dark. And out of some areas even during daylight hours. Although honestly the most time I spent in that part of KAF was driving my Ops Sgt around when I got rotated back into camp for forced rest.

                However, I would surmise that combat trades would be a bit more insulated from these undesirables. If anything, combat arms have the least tolerance for BS and the posturing they typically comes from gang members.

      3. Why wait,,,
        Go ahead and enact this crap

        It will make you much safer


        • Obama’s “Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid”

          “We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority.

          And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction.”

          • You started resisting yet KFC?….. The fact that you are still wrapped up in the news instead of worrying about what YOU are going to do is pretty funny in its own….

            • YOU should concentrate on your OWN plans and stop harassing me and other people on this site. I would NEVER tell you what our plans are…EVER!

              There is a HUGE difference between you and most other posters on this site. Most post here to share information. YOU only post to start trouble and harass people. That is a big difference.

              Don’t you have some MSM site you should be at or some porn to watch.

              YOU ARE ONE P.O.S. LEAVE ME ALONE YOU!!!

              • Sharing “info” isn’t regurgitating old news stories there KFC… sorry to tell you that. You telling everyone that you were shocked that teacher and everyone else who lives life off the taxpayers dime…. That isn’t sharing helpful information. Being Prepared means you don’t give a rats shit about the news really or what homo teacher lover Obama passes…. right? As you can see by the past few articles…. there’s a lot of people around here who don’t know shit about fighting, and quite a few don’t have of of money to buy the supplies needed, or the i formation/training on how to use it anyways….. Right? I’ll ask you again, what good is some stupid poached news story from you gonna do them?

                • Cyber Stalking is a crime. Beyond a one time tete-a-tete lines are crossed and you have gone way beyond that.

              • Between the auto correct and my brain going faster then my fingers…. didn’t post all that we’ll did I? Lol

                • Low IQ. Yeah, it can make things tough sometimes.

                  • Low IQ?… You still trying to figure out how a person can cast their own bullets?…. That’s what I thought smartass.

              • Dear KY Mom,

                Don’t let him antagonize you. It’s obvious he doesn’t understand the point: we need the comments from every angle, every perspective, to present true news that is usable.

                You hang in there, baby, and keep at it…you’re doing fine. I’m proud of you.

                DE OPPRESSO LIBER


                • Double that sentiment snake , Peterson should be sharing his training ,and TTP’s he learned with the rest it may be a useful insight for those that have never served . Isn’t that what it’s all about ?
                  free the oppressed ! Preserve Life and Liberty from tyranny.

                  KY keep posting evey bit of information, it has merit and someday may be critical for FREEFOR
                  If it goes to the festivities level.

                  You are the Auxiliary.

                  Peterson when it all goes to crap even you will have a responsibility and importance , that oath that we took on our enlistment was not just for our length of service it was for life. We all who served have a responsibility to the constitution and the American defend against all enemies but foreign and domestic.
                  We must all act at the appropriate time together or we will regret our inaction for the rest of our short lives if this goes hot.

                  We all going to die someday, the question is how much is it going to hurt.

                  Snake, Semper Fi from a former Target Aquisition and a Reconassianse guy.

                  RESIST NO MATTER WHAT


                  Semper Fi 8541

                  • I hate auto spell BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC

                    Semper Fi 8541

              • KY, I appreciate your posts. Keep doing your thing. Thank You.

                • Outlaw, a couple of post’s back I could’nt respond to your comment because the reply square was blank. But do you really think that I am as handsome and intelligent as the mountain trekker, Thanks.WASP

                • same here KY mom


              • KY mom
                you should link every headline from drudge everyday just to piss off that asshole peterson

                • Everyday she shows that in reality she doesn’t know shit when it comes this kinda stuff. News poaching is all she’s good for.

                  • What are you good for? From reading your posts…Apparently, not much.

                    Since you can’t dazzle anyone with brilliance, all that leaves is to baffle them with your b.s.

                  • Let me go ahead and teach grandma and grandpa how to get good fragmentation on their homemade weapons then huh?

                  • Are you in reality, Mac Slavo,working the crowd?

                  • Nope, I’m just Peterson.

              • You do what you do KM…some things you post are things most people would never come across if you didn’t and if it helps them then you done good…folks who don’t like it can just skip it…not really that hard to do 😉

              • KY
                You go Girl.

              • KY Mom,
                — I appreciate all you hard work , effort and research.
                Please don’t lower your standard of excellence by responding to him.
                — Time wasted on a crying baby looking for attention. —
                — Miss Dee Dee

              • Mac, is this Peterson person a friend of yours? I don’t understand how you could see no problem with censoring comments critical of “Jews”, yet allow someone to continuously attack and harass your regular, long-time posters.

                Are the loyal contributors to your web site, of less importance to you than unnamed “jews” that you don’t even know? How can you protect one, but not the others?

                • 90% of what I say to KFC is in the form of a question that I would really like to know the answer to. Am I lying when I say all she does is copy and paste stolen news stories? Me questioning her intentions for showing up here and pointing out the holes in her supposedly conservative values isn’t doing her any harm…. Right?

                  • Exactly what are your intentions for showing up here?

                    When you constantly stalk and insult one poster on this site…shows YOU are the one with the problem.

                    And to refer to her comments as (in your words recently) … “whoring” only shows what a pathetic a$$hole you are.

                  • I show up here because this place kicks ass, I think Mac is pretty talented when it comes to writing up these articles that enjoy reading. He brings topic into the light when a lot don’t, he not scared, shy or timid while doing it.

                    I come the comments to get a good idea and gauge where people like yourself are at I preparedness and survival knowledge. When I say what KFC is poaching isn’t doing you a damn bit of good…. I really mean it. I’m actually trying to help the both of you out.

                  • Peterless-

                    FYI, you deranged perverted stalker…KY Mom is not obligated to swear allegiance to your defective NEO-CON agenda.

                    ..hike your ass back to NPR and wallow/grovel amongst others just like you.


                    I sincerely hope you’re incapable of breeding, ‘cuz we don’t need any more ‘shit’ like you, in the gene-pool!

                • Thank you to MANY for your kind words and support!

                  We have some snow and ice here. It is a blessing to be prepared – safe, warm and fed.

                  Take care! May you have a good weekend!
                  KY Mom

                  • Hey thanks KFC! Have a good weekend also.

              • KY MO: There are laws against online harassment. Document the violations. 🙂

                • harassment? Oh come on now….

                  • You’ve been asked and told multiple times to stop, so yes, harassment.

                  • Sigi stop what he has not done anything but as question and point out the truth.
                    Problem her is to many regulars can’t handle the truth.

                • DK. Now you just have to be kidding.

                • DK. You are a lawyer you know no harressment can happen when she is voluntarily return to a public forum she does not own. And no voli hence has been threatened. Once again we here at SHIF want it our way and we will threaten with the law anyone whodisagrees with us.

                  • So, according to you and your friend Peter, if anyone goes to a ‘public place’, you have the ‘RIGHT’ to stalk and harass them?

                    Do your ‘rights’ include the grocery store and the park or just the places you choose?

                    You are both bullies at heart.

                  • You need to go see what the word stalk means there KFC. If you can’t deal with me how are going to deal with some real shitty people during collapse? Yes, that is a real question.

                  • They won’t answer then they have to look at the truth.

                  • FBP: Facebook is a public forum too. Harassment happens and it is illegal. Personally, I thrive on the conflict of a good debate when I have time for it, and I am not complaining.

                    Bring it on if you have the balls. 🙂

                  • They be swinging.

              • Hi KYMom! Don’t let that little tree Peterson get in the way of the forest! There are a lot of people who don’t watch tv or keep up with any of the internet forms of the same propaganda . If Peterson cant see the value of presenting info that might be missed, well ,that is a negative kind of personality. Please continue to share what you come across ,that seems appropriate to YOU.
                You never know what life you may touch and in what way )If you present a concept ,that someone never thought of,it will maybe motivate them to learn something NEW.
                Be well .

              • KY Mom.. He is like the school yard bully behind a keyboard. He must have been beat up a lot and finds power in picking on you and your post. Keep doing what your doing none of us no it all (except pederson). Stay strong…

            • It is true we are getting a huge amount of repeats though the prep per blogs lately.
              And KFC is just making it worst.
              We need some orig content. Is it possible we are just ran out of new subjects.
              If no them is going to act on the info we have about “them”. I guess we will just keep reading reruns of it all.

              And using the excuse I do it to help is bullshit. You make where the lazy can just be lazy and not go and search for the info and learn about other sites.

              • Dear FP,

                No, let her go. It’s good, because even if she repeats, there may have been someone who did not see the initial posting. It can also be used for cross-referencing if you read it once but don’t have the site.

                Hang tough with, and for, her. She’s doing fine.

                Snake Plisskin,
                MAJ, US Army Special Forces (Ret.)

              • I hear ya. After the hearing that a CAT Scan machine dirty bomb was able to take out most of Texas…. lol

                After seeing a lot of the comments in the past few articles, there’s a lot of these inner net chest thumpers who are just actors. Coming here makes them feel like they out there on some survival adventure from the Discovery Channel or something….

                • Peterson:
                  If you go back to that article you will see I explained that it would only contaminate a small area.
                  You see people come to this site to learn, to teach, and to be taught.
                  They also like to express their opinion. Which is their right and I defend it even if I disagree with it.

                  • What do you think people are learning from each other here, and who’s teaching besides Mac?

                  • Also, you were the one who thought the dirty bomb was gonna ruin a good chunk of Texas? I’ll go back and check out what you said.

                  • J Red Walker was the idiot I was refering to when i said some moron thought a medical device dirty bomb had enough power to screw up half of Texas…. I was using that as a talking point to prove how little most people on here actually know when it comes to much anything besides following a news story.

                • Peterson.

                  Have you no learned about firefighting, NBC, Weapons, ammo and First aid?

                  • Everything else out there is what you guys should be learning…. there’s so much out there that doesn’t get talked about here as far as being a militant. Know what I’m saying?

              • Facebook:

                Please let us know what subjects you would like Mac to post. If you are lacking subjects, I have some suggestions:

                Why Monsanto is poisoning us with GMO foods

                Big Pharma vaccines and meds killing people

                Comtrails (not contrails) are killing our environment

                How’s that for starters?

                Jon Rappaports nomorefakenews will give you a heads up on these subjects.

                • Send in the proof to Mac and I am sure he will run with it.

                  We are running out of new things to talk about.
                  And we are not “recruiting” enough to teach.

                  Pestiside are killing us. Show me where the food is.

                  Meds have save and extend my life. And I know many who say the same.
                  I also knew many now dead that when natural.
                  Preventive medicine is your own responiable. It not your right that someone else does it for you.

                  Show me proven chemical tests on these che trails. Or a picture of the plane spraying it. There to many camera and twitter for anything to not be photographed by now.

                  I don’t trust my government either but let stick to what is prove able. That is enough to drive us. Raizy. And if you prepare for what is possible. You are most likely prepare for all that other crap too if it is true.

                  • Facebook:

                    You only need to google “chemtrails” to get all the info and pictures you need. There are all kinds of groups fighting this killing of the earth; all kinds of pictures to go along with the info.

                    I was out in my yard early on the weekend of the 19th of October and a small plane spewing that stuff was incredibly close. I traveled from central Oregon to Idaho on that Friday and they were spewing that stuff for at least 100 miles. They turn our beautiful blue skies milky with that horrible stuff.

                    Incidentally, I was on my way to visit my sick sister, cancer of the brain, lung, and leg. The medical doctors did everything they knew to do and she lived 10 months. She died Friday after Thanksgiving. She was a smoker from her teens and never could overcome that habit.

                    I e-mailed Mac long ago and ask him to do an interview with nomorefakenews Jon Rappaport. Mac said he knew Jon and would see what he could do. That is where it is at.

                    So, Facebook, what subjects would you like to see covered?

                  • And it is all true because it is on the Internet.

                  • What I like to SEE List 1 of 876

                    Gun parts
                    Gun Storage
                    Ammo Storage
                    Loader tricks
                    weapon carrying techniques for a senior citizen.
                    What age do you set a AR aside for a child.
                    Conceded carry ideas Car person bicycles
                    When to use a hand cart
                    Ways to harden a home
                    Tricks learned the hard way
                    Mind games to keep calm
                    More talk about how far the hordes will go
                    What is consider a Mad Max compared to a just a disaster
                    INstead of make a team how to truly make one

                    How about some of us talk about how we made a team.

                    Open talk about weaponizing our computers
                    Dental Skills
                    Old people talk about their teeth to the young
                    Medical When is the line cross to do it at home
                    Serious talk about getting pregnant after shif.
                    Tricks from the pros how to sharpen a blade and when a shape one IS NOT needed.
                    Old fashioned codes
                    Making light from a car
                    How to apply camouflage in the woods compare to the city.
                    How to blend in.
                    Strengthen each other not to be scared to speak out without the cover of a comment section.
                    Talk about why
                    Talk why we think when is when
                    Talk about use of silver without degrading each other. Without using post show you know what you are talking about.
                    Alt battery source for battery operated tools
                    Storing meds that you really need Real life stuff
                    Soldier talk about their long walk more.
                    How to approach a helicopter
                    How to approach a Un food drop without getting killed (Some will need it)
                    Water Water
                    Name name and what they did to cause this
                    How would we improve the constitution in a convention
                    Start Regional discussion
                    Instead of ignoring the trolls engage them and crush every word they say.
                    How to make fire real life stories
                    How to walk through the woods
                    What to do when you do run into the starving Think know don’t expect a god to help then
                    How to use a sword
                    How do you leave a dying family member to save the rest
                    How do explain to the kids no more internet (Small One) Big one suffer
                    Real talk about the right size gun for little people.
                    Talk about real target size in real life.
                    Why not to care if you shit yourself the first time you shoot at somebody
                    Home code for alert of trouble
                    How to make a toy
                    Truly discuss the upcoming barter system Most here have no idea
                    Talk about at what point we do create a SHIF militia MAc being the POC.
                    Family members stop lying to each other and get on with prep or get out.
                    Sunbathing to get clean. (No Pics please)
                    Stop saying get this book. Lets talk about it.
                    Who could start a huge file we share between us so we all have the same books and can give to neebees.
                    What tools do what
                    How to adjust a scope
                    When iron sites are better
                    Integration ideas
                    Body disposal
                    Ideas on how long to hide in the city before movements.
                    Rural areas Which city to do what in.
                    Keeping warm in someone elses building How to be cool down.
                    What relieves stress.
                    When do you tolerate the drug using family member
                    What to do when a trusted member cracks and rapes the neighbors wife.
                    Someone caught eating extra food.
                    Then finding out it was your child.
                    Smoking fish
                    How to defeat a metal detector
                    How to strengthen a truck
                    Which diesel truly are multifuel
                    When to say what the fuck
                    Can we refuse our ex mother in laws a way to survive.
                    Can we resist revenge when there is no rule of law


                  • Excellent post there Facebook!

                  • Facebook, let me give everyone a short list. Man or Woman,anyone that gets farther from the house than the backyard. Never leave home without a sharp pocket knife and a Bic lighter. Trekker Out. I Love My Leatherman!

                  • Concerning “old fashioned codes” mentioned in your list, search Google books for an old book called “The Premier Cypher Telegraphic Code” published in 1897. You can download it in pdf format. The code was basically a way to save money on telegrams by condensing common sentences down into single nonsense words, as the charges were by the word. Study that book and its methods and you may devise your own codes (not really cyphers) that are unbreakable. Don’t just use the codes straight from the book as I’m sure the NSA has that book programmed into their computers.

                    BTW, there are thousands of free old books on Google books and Take advantage while they’re free.

                  • Fb ,
                    I agree there is enough REAL DISTURBING STUFF going on that we do not need the conspiracy stuff , BUT some of that information is a definite PSYOP by the powers that be that may be used to spread panic when the festivities start. Some intel may be gleamed from that information as to timing , Situation , threat to determine the real reason what is going on . Intel is intel you never know what some interconnected piece of information may lead to.

                    Last week there was a hearing broadcast on CSPAN about the Dear Leaders extra legislative activities and the danger this presents by making congress irreverent by changing passed laws as he sees fit and using cabinet level agancies to enforce his agenda without congressional oversite. NO MENTION OF THIS EVEN THOUGHT IT WAS ON CSPAN hardly a conspiracy site. The man testifying was a lawyer from the Cato institute.

                    What about the IRS going after ” dissidents” ( conservatives and libertarians ) who speak out Against the regime?

                    You have to be blind to not see the fact he is building the apparatuses of a police survailence state.

                    This is about to get real , personally I do not relish the fact that I may have to defind our way of life at 55 but training those younger and educating them what our country is founded on has it’s own rewards . I can still teach the younger ones to survive the deth of the regime to rebuild this country back the way it was meant to be.i have seen death and destruction up close in person and have had shots fired in anger at me , it will not be easy , it never has been .
                    It will be worth it in the end
                    there is no greater honor than preserving LIBERTY.

                    RESIST NO MATTER WHAT


                    Semper Fi 8541

              • I gave you a thumbs up. and a 🙂

            • Are you an Obamabot? What’s wrong with you? MSNBC has two openings maybe you can get a job bashing Americans on their show.

            • Peterson…..back off KY Mom. Take it somewhere else.

              • Braveheart is that you! Trekker Out.

              • Ya is that you Pal? I missed your crazy comments there dude! LOL!

                • Peterbreath has 28 comments out of 480 on here all hidden because no one cares, or wants to hear him herass k-mom and others. Does anybody know were Nina got off too, oh I remember now never mind.

                  • Mom said Nina was missing to many shots
                    He went deep for more range time
                    You can donate to his 45/70 fund if u like
                    Peterbreath is a turd sucking thread hijacker
                    That masterbaiter guy must b his daddy

      4. Amat Victoria curam
        Somebody tell that army puke to go f himself!!
        From my warm hands between reloads he can
        Have em all!! Ammo first..
        May I be found atop a pile o brass with a smile
        On my face cause I ain’t going to hell alone

      5. As Rooster Cogburn told Ned Peppers in True Grit, “You do what you think is best, Ned”.

        • Thanks tim , that series was the best of john wayne IMHO.
          I am gonna haul out a DVD tonight.

      6. We’ll be ready for you Col.

      7. What a scumbag traitor! All of a sudden our country is filled with wannabe dictators who don’t seem to know shit about our constitution and founding fathers.The American people have had their fill of these jerks.

        • Anybody care to bet whether Bateman’s promotion and/or appointment have been politically motivated or to replace another officer who was purged by the Obama regime?

          Seems to me everyone at the Colonel/Captain (Navy), maybe even as low as the LCol/Commander, levels are in danger of getting canned in favour of politically reliable, appointees under Dictator Obama.

          • I see another tactic here.
            What if, just what if??, these pukes are just playing along??
            Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer??

            • Bingo. I know of at least one base commander who couldn’t pass the litmus test because of his own already public views. So he had an officer grand-stand about being anti-gun.

              The officer now has that commander’s job. He promised to open the armory and base if, or more like *when*, shit goes real bad.
              Apparently the former commander is now working with a militia unit in conjunction with oathkeepers. Perhaps they plan to march on base and arm themselves when the time comes.

              The commander in question is on the list of publicly fired officials. I’ll leave it up to you to figure out who.

              • So you decide to out the new commander. Greatnopsec. Dipshit

              • We are all in the unorganized militia.
                Stand by…

              • Why do I care if he opens the Armory? I’m not going to give him any of my stuff.

            • JayJay…they’re not playing along…the patriots are getting out and regrouping.

      8. If they want my gun then they can take it from me. Time to stand up and fight and die for my country when they come for me.

        • Admirable…but lets just make them poor bassturds die for theirs and lets us live for our families and our futures… 🙂

          • Reb:
            You make a good point;
            As for me I will take out as many as I can so you won’t have too.
            They can take my gun and all my bullets have gone down range.
            I have said this before when I bleed out it will not only be Red, But RED, White, and Blue!

            • Sarge…amen…but we will all be better off if you and all the others survive our encounters with the enemy…we need all of us to win this thing…we all have “skills” that will enable us to do what we have to do in/on our own part but as this fight builds we will need all those skills and abilities to come together in a manner of speaking to send this “thing” back to hell whence it came…I d rather know that ole sarge is out there kicking their backsides up betwixt their ears than to remember he died ( bravely and gloriously)in a battle…all Im saying is lets not develop a martyr complex or allow it to develop in our brothers/sisters…we are in this thing for the long haul to win and to make sure this demon stays in hell for a few centuries until another generation of elitists crawls out of whatever sewer they come from and then our decendants will have to again deal with whatever flavor of tyrant arises in their time…may we leave to them an example of how to “live”(and if need be “die”) free such as our founders/forebears left us…hope that makes sense 🙂

              • Reb:
                I will do what I can to survive this. And KICK as much ass as I can. But let it be known that I will fight and die if need be.
                A again thanks

                • Im with you sarge 🙂

      9. I’m pretty sure that is a treasonous statement. Who the hell does this Bates character think he is? Maybe he should retire from our military and join the Chinese or North Korean army. He would fit in well with other communists. Maybe he is a descendant of Benedict Arnold- a F-ing traitor!

        • freedom- who is gonna prosecute him ?
          eric holder ? lmao
          this guy has bought his ticket to the top !

          • Hammerhead:

            Yep, right to the top. Ol’ Joe Biden better watch out. This good Komrad might just be on the top ticket with the reptilian? snake Hilliary.

          • Speaking of Eric Holder – How’s that investigation into your gun distribution to the Mexican drug cartel progressing ? – How’s the investigation of how the IRS targets conservative groups progressing ? How many hours a day do you spend telling the truth about the cluster ;-&?k of arms dealers at Bengazi ? In the proposed anti-gun and assault weapon legislation there is a monetary fine of about 15 thousand dollars to anyone that supplies the government with a list of all the gun registrations. Never mind the fact that the fine is about the amount George Sorros earns in the time it takes him to sneeze, Does anyone with a half a noodle of brains think there would be any prosecution? I do see that you are giving speeches about your concern of the Stand Your Ground Laws. It must be nice to not have to worry about being the victim of a violent crime such as rape or armed robbery. How many people are working full time as your security team? What type of automatic weapons do we the people pay for in that regard ? What law abiding citizen’s life is so much less valuable than yours they should not have the right to protect themself against a Lt. Col. With a mental disorder ? Why is the government not embracing the wisdom and generosity of the NRA and their millions of good patriotic members ? What am I missing ?
            — Miss Dee Dee

        • Who does he think he is.

          The face of the new military is what he think he is.

      10. Bring your own face and fat ass to the confiscation or shut your dam pie hole bitch, you aint taking shit away from anyone

        • He’s a LCol. He won’t get his hands dirty. He has junior officers to delegate to, who have actual soldiers who may or may not comply with these illegal orders and will face the consequences either way. Whether it is resistance from the armed population or what still passes for military law on your side of the border.

          • Lt. Col are still nobodies in the U.S. military. They don’t have very much power above the company level.

            • Well, LCol’s are fewer and further between in the Canadian Armed Forces. They are our battalion commanders (3-4 companies in our infantry regiments) and regimental commanders for engineers, signals and armour, not sure about artillery. Incidentally, Commanders, as a rule. Are our frigate captains.

              But you are right, though. From my interactions with any part of the US military, seems to me they just hand out Lieutenant-Colonels the way our automatic promotions to corporal and captain (our working ranks for enlisted and officers respectively) are based on time in instead of merit lists.

            • just joe , he wont be a lt col for long.
              He just bought a promotion with that statement.
              The article was originated in Esquire of all places.
              this is what makes lefties druel all over themselves, this guy is a flippin hero to them.
              Mark my words , he will make the curcuit soon , Pierce morgan , Today show ,Chris Mathews etc.
              We got us a new anti-gun poster boy .

              • Agreed. If he wasn’t already a political promotion and/or appointment, he will be soon.

                If anything, one has to hope there will be enough leadership left that honours its oath when the S does HTF to stand up to those units loyal to Obammy and his DHS private army.

            • …and many officers(especially Lt)have a target with the words “Shoot here” emblazoned on the back of their fat heads….

              • reb –
                These “officers” that wanna violate the oath and remove guns from the hands of Americans need to be reminded again , they have families too .
                While these rats and their minions are across the country raisin hell in sombody elses backyard we will be posting their names and pictures as we get them online , and maybe send some local patriots on over to greet THEIR families .
                This will become personal real fast .
                Oath breakers just gotta understand this .

                • Roger that…if possible I would prefer to see the actual traitors pay the price for their own treachery…not their families/ect…unless said family is supportive of the traitor…I understand that if it comes down to it then whatever you have to do to get their attention will be on the table…in a theirs or ours scenario itll be theirs!

                  • reb – its not as evil as it sounds .
                    Once a friendly visit with conversation is paid to his wife and kids , you can damn well bet the rat will become a deserter , all on his own .
                    If this were to happen just once , the message would be sent . All that would be left would be the hardcore sycopaths .Cant back down on this one.

                  • Makes sense Hammerhead…

              • Lets not leave out the big fish that stand on the side lines with their lobbiest that feed the beast.

          • so than he’s neutered , and is of no concern to anyone

            • Not unless he’s in a key staff position instead of an operational command. We know nothing about Batesman. For all we know he could be in charge of sewage treatment on some backwater base in Nebraska or he could be the Obama-appointed Soviet-style political officer babysitting the Joint Chiefs.

              So until proven otherwise, it should be assumed he is in a prime position to at least order and direct the maximum amount of damage he can cause.

          • It’s just me, but if given such an order myself, I’d move to comply but circle around and assassinate the order giver, then bug out according to a pre-existing plan…just me personally…

          • Dear Canadian Vet,
            I have admired your posts for quite some time. I thank you for your solidarity with Americans in these bleak times.

            I wanted to clarify that there are two oaths: the enlisted man’s and the commissioned officers. I took both (I was a Mustang).

            The enlisted oath one takes to the Constitution, however, it additionally specifies that the enlistee will obey the orders of all officers appointed above him. The oath of a commissioned officer is sworn to uphold the Constitution alone.

            Most lower-ranking enlisted men and junior NCO’s do not really understand this difference; they are deliberately kept in the dark. They don’t make policy; they enforce it. Our services have returned in their mentality to a more rigid system akin to British Regimental thought.

            Just chimin’ in. If you knew it already, sorry to take up space.

            Snake Plisskin
            MAJ, US Army Special Forces (ABN), Ret.

            • I was aware of the different oaths. However, doesn’t it only apply to LAWFUL orders or to all orders?

              In the Canadian Armed Forces, we are duty-bound to obey only lawful commands and to refuse unlawful ones. Is it the same in the US?

              As for the regimental system, that is what we use up here and it serves us extremely well and keeping subordinates in the loop is an integral part of our leadership model (look up The 10 Principles of Leadership along with Canadian Forces). Perhaps a more accurate description of the situation on your side of the border would be referring to it as the old Soviet system.

              • Failure to refuse an unlawful order is a court-martial offense down here.

                • true you must prove it was unlawful and we see the luck most have with proof

              • Correction, that would be the 12 Principles of Leadership. I must have been thinking about the 10 Principles of War. That’s what happens when you operate on 2 hours’ sleep a night because your 2 year old won’t sleep.

          • Go over to Sipsey street irregulars and read Mikes articles on 4th generation warfare,
            Interesting take and a good guide for future reference.

      11. The guy sounds like an arrogant self righteous prick. The reason we have the 2nd Amendment and our pistol-grip semi-automatic rifles with detachable 30 round magazines is exactly to protect ourselves from a government full of pricks like him.

        Lt. Col. Robert Bateman, thank you for your service. Beyond that, you can go fuck yourself.

        • If this is the type of leadership that is going to lead our military against us then we have nothing to worry about. This traitor is nothing more than a cunt full of cold water who likes shooting off his big mouth. Hey bateman, show us how much balls you have and lead the charge.

      12. I hope our Military hasn’t reached such a low status to have such jackbooted thugs as their representative and planners. OR maybe the constitution being shared with him differs from the real constitution.

        Another statistical probability is that he might lost his job as a hired assassin for the Black Water (not sure what name they are using these days) and now is joining the new National Security Forces who will be as well equipped and as strong as our Military.

        I wonder who made that comment!!!

      13. Master Bateman will be too busy flogging to do anything, its so easy for these schmucks to say were going to “take” your guns away.. none of these lilly livered jackasses would ever get off their clear plastic covered couch to take anything from anyone

        Besides people there are so many out there and so many that they don’t even know about out there, that this task would be so insurmountable while they are dodging incoming fire

        scare tactics, again

        these pukes don’t scare me they are nothing but hot air, and traitors to this country and every man woman and child within its borders.

        Another name for the list

        • Agreed. If it is a government run “program” it is going to fail big time. These hotshots cant disarm cavemen in Afghanistan, they sure as hell don’t have a prayer of taking our weapons. It will be cold dead hands of millions of people if they try. Too bad we are coming to this, but human ego never ceases to amaze me. We struggle with the insanity gene every day.

        • Scare tactics,,,
          This is no tactic its a promise, if you kill only one of these fucks who kick in your door that is one more who wont be going home to their family.
          I dont sleep well and my REPR with 50rnd drum is always close at hand,,

      14. The LTC should be relieved of command immediately. I guess kissing the ring of der Obama is how you get ahead in the military now.. WTF has happen to the uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. I guess we shall see who stands with who.

        • Isn’t Preezy’s purge up to over 200 high ranking leaders now?

          • Closing in on that number if not there.

      15. Tripe…..

      16. I’m sure Lieutenant Colonel Bateman will now be promoted to full bird Colonel toot sweet!

      17. I keep reading the top brass were fired for being part of a military coup. Here and other places its because they were fired for not putting on the brown shirt. Dont know which is true. Theres an awful lot of movement and shuffling going on at the same time Obama breaks the laws. Theres more of us than there are of them even if you count the zombies. How much of this is about scaring us with the belief theyre so big and powerful and will force a new regime on America? I think theres enough of us who are old and mature enough to hold our line and fight for our principles. I think we intimidate them and thats the reason they feel the need to divide us and push us from every direction they know. Fuck them. Those in control cant and wont get in the field. Those they control who have arms aint large enough to bring down an entire population. I dont buy this spin garbage. If they think they can control us by a squeeze, let em try. Since when is the government smarter than the people? Stupid fucking gmen.

        • One day these bastards won’t be able to walk as a civilian without being taken out. They better stayed armed and heavily numbered. What a life, to never be able to take your guard down. One of us out there will strike these A-holes when they least expect it. That will be the new battlefield. No way to win, his team against your’s, but playing chess will work.

          • Gonetolong,
            — Yes , too bad for them that will never be able to take their guard down. That is what they have been doing for some time now so they are efficient in that regard. Where as the civilian population is unprepared and not knowledgeable to the vast systems of surveillance we are subjected to. The Snowdens are far and few among us. We might have a game of chess with them but the advantage is theirs. They have control of the board.
            They control
            The food supply
            The roads , bridges and hi-ways
            Waters and airports
            Drinking water
            Public transportation
            Fuel supply
            Communication and media
            Hospitals and healthcare
            Highly sophisticated computer systems
            As for weapons and chemicals I doubt that we have a clue to the amount and potential to harm and control us
            The list goes on and on.
            — Batten the hatches and remember the code word ” STEALTH”
            Miss Dee Dee
            Education systems

            • I beg to differ you and they my think they control all those things. However you can only police a populace to the extent that the populace allows you to. They no more control anything than the guards at a prison control the inmates.

              • Good Evening Old Guy,
                — You are somewhat right about being able to police a populace to the extent it is allowed be by said populace. Fortunately there is a vast difference between the control of the unarmed , physically contained , totally dependent prison population and the multi-million number of people in the lower 99 percent income bracket living outside the penitentiary walls. The closest a prisoner get to feeling like a free man is when he is allowed to watch the movie ” The Longest Yard “. You and I on the other hand have the assumption , expectation and time frame to hope for improvement to many of societies problems. Unfortunately I have no answers except to use a tool my Dad told me was in the bottom of every toolbox. He would tell me to go to my toolbox and grab some common sense. He would then mumble under his breath that I better not bring back any of that Politically Correct Crap.—- Only now many years later I understand —-
                — Getting back to the control thing. I still think they have control of the board. Their last and self defeating move will be to cut off their own major money supply by overburdening us taxpayers. The trickle of money being supplied by foreign sources has begun to run dry. The illusion of prosperity by the magic of money printing has already begun to rear its fangs in the form of inflation. The desire by more people to obtain and train self defense weapons is growing not deminishing as the MSM would have us believe. People like this Lt Col. Bateman reinforce people’s resolve to reclaim what we are loosing in our country. Our race bating politicians are bringing people of every color together against them not dividing us. Our children’s test scores and the skits on the Tonight Show ” Jay Walking ” of how stupid the younger population has become will be the downfall of Common Core. There are so many things that are beginning to backfire on TPTB .
                — Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus. Yes Virginia we will win this Game —
                — Miss Dee Dee

      18. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”.

        Well at least you’ll KNOW who is on what side, and perhaps have no thought of pause at firing on them.

        Sort of like donning a blue helmet.

      19. Does anyone on this board believe nsa or other spy agencies can read and pin point all messages and messengers on this board? If so ignore this gov. and stealthly go about your business and stfu!

        • If you fear them and fear to speak out you have already lost. The gov can stick it afaiac. They know they’re corrupt and now they know we know so what do you really think is going to happen next? I suggest we are doing them a favor of letting them know what is going to happen to them as one can go across the net and read thousands if not millions of tweets, blogs, posts etc. warning the crazy Zionists that we have your name number and address. THEY better damn well be scared. I am NOT afraid of them.

        • I dont give a crap, if they want me come and get me, i dont give a shit anymore, am doing nothing illegal other than posting my opinions, if having an opinion and a penchant for free speech is against some law we are all in a lot more trouble for a different reason, and should have stood up years ago, if you think being all secretive is keeping you safe, good luck with that, your on the list right next to me and Mac and KYmom and all the others.
          MOLON LABE

          • You are so right. Weve all been tagged and listed just for coming here and leaving a comment here or somewhere else. So?


          • Most of the people here, were probably already on the list for a variety of other reasons not associated with posting here.

            We own guns and train with them.
            We prep.
            We think for ourselves.
            We stand up if necessary.
            We probably own PMs.
            We don’t always play by their rules.
            We didn’t buy into the indoctrination scheme in school. We let our kids have squirt guns and we don’t care what shape a pop tart is bitten into.

            I’m certain that posting here wasn’t the proverbial nail, but the proverbial straw that broke…

          • kulafarmer. I absolutely agree with every word.

      20. Let’s put aside for a moment just how disconcerting this is…

        Basically, this is a guy who is employed by the equivalent of an auto repair shop that goes around putting sugar in people’s gas tank just to keep his mechanics working. Think about it.

        He has no clue he was “hired” for his inability to think rationally and that the very reasons why he believes the USA should be disarmed is BECAUSE of the very thinking he possesses…a lack of value for life coupled with the whole “us vs. them” mentality. And then he has to create a world that doesn’t yet exist to make himself “right.” Just sad.

        This is what fluoride does to you, folks.

        100,000+ of “his” kind couldn’t even hold Baghdad. It won’t be easier here.

      21. Come and try it Bateman. We’ll pry YOURS from your cold dead fingers. For our own damn good of course.

        • Masterbaterman is a good commie.

        • I figure on getting his while his fingers are still warm, No point in letting good iron go to waste.

      22. A perfumed prince bucking for promotion. A dangerous tendency among peacetime officers. (No, it’s not really wartime, despite what’s going on in the sandbox.) This kind crap went on in the dirty thirties, leaving us with an upper echelon riddled with incompetents to start fighting WW2 with. All to many of who, hung on right through the war. My shining example is Admiral Kelly Turner, whose ambition and bureaucratic-territory-protecting habits contributed mightily to the intelligence failure that led to Pearl Harbor. Another is Adm. Robert Ghormley, who had all but surrendered Guadalcanal (and the Marines on it) before he was yanked in favor of Halsey.

        If we have to go to a hot war with the Chinese, and I think it all too likely, we will be toast if this purge of our officer corps keeps up. Just like Stalin. He purged all his competent officers, and Hitler rolled over the Reds for months. Just as with Napoleon, it was the weather that finally stopped them, not the Red Army.

        • “All too many of whom” We need an edit function, Mac!

          • To many would change post after they were found out to be a fraud

      23. Bateman believes that the Second Amendment does not protect an individuals right to own firearms baed on a early 20th century statute, but the congress can not pass a law that restricts constitutional rights and then have that law used as a bases to restrict rights.
        Because of his invalid view of the constitution Bateman thinks that if he seizes people’s firearms he is within his oath. If instead he had read the ratification debates and the Federalists papers, he would see that the Second Amendment is all abut a personal right to fire arms. Indeed the word Militia as it was defined in 1791 meant all able bodied men, the fact that another more restrictive definition of the word was put in a statute does not restrict a personal right to firearms. Indeed the fact that congress passed a law in the early 1900s defining the Militia is irrelevant,except perhaps to reinforce that the 18th century definition of militia is not the same as the 20th century, and with respect to the Second Amendment it is the 18th century definition that is applicable.


        • What world do you live in where this 1 nucking futbag is responsible for speaking for ‘the military’?

          Were you wrong to say that brown people are dirty sub-humans?

        • I might be a “stupid Republican”, but at least I’m not an atheist/traitorous/Big-Government-Loving/socialist/Marxist/Communist/abortion-loving/homosexual-marriage-loving/America-hating DIM-ocrat!

          • Oh, yeah, I forgot –
            welfare-loving/anti-job/lying/racist DIM-ocrat!

          • When the time comes that TPTB come for your weapons, the lot of you will turn them in because;

            Most of you are Gadsen flying keyboard commandos.

            You are all definately divided and thoroughly conquered.

            If you really were all for getting rid of Bwana 0b@ma,
            the very least you could do is arrange for and actually
            pull off a “Million Gun March” on Capitol Hill, but these
            events peter out long before the scheduled date they are
            slated to take place.

            Inaction, after so many lines drawn in the sand, is a strong and overwhelming testament of the real commitment
            the majority have to upholding your supposed 2A rights.
            Never mind entertaining thoughts of actually overthrow- ing what you consider an unconstitutional government.


            1. The only guns permitted will be the following:

            a. Smoothbore or Rifled muzzle-loading blackpowder muskets. No 7-11 in history has ever been held up with one of these.
            b. Double-barrel breech-loading shotguns. Hunting with these is valid.
            c. Bolt-action rifles with a magazine capacity no greater than five rounds. Like I said, hunting is valid. But if you cannot bring down a defenseless deer in under five rounds, then you have no fking reason to be holding a killing tool in the first place.


            AWwww.. This aint so bad! At least you would be still
            ‘allowed’ to possess these kinds of politically correct,
            non-threatening firearms. If you are lucky, that is!

            When Justin Trudeau and the Liberals return to power, (and you betcha, he/they will) Canada will have these
            three classes of firearms, instead of the current Non-
            Restricted (ordinary rifles/shotguns), Restricted; (Hand
            Guns, scary looking politically incorrect ‘Black-Ops’ type tacticool/SBR’s, and finally Prohibited; Full auto,
            certain SBR’s with huge magazine capacities including the
            Calico M100 and variants thereof, .25 & .32 caliber firearms, and handguns having ‘Saturday Night Special’
            dimensions (barrel lengths shorter than 105mm – 4.25″).

            Looks like TPTB are slowly homogenizing gun laws between
            Canada and U.S. to ultimately reflect U.N. mandates and
            Prepare for the coming North American Union.

            Truly, those people who are behind getting rid of your
            Constitution, especially 2A, hve noting to fear from any one as they know that, despite the millions upon millions
            of guns, out there, there is no unity amongst any to mount so much as an empty holster march at the next town hall meeting!

            Gonetoolong says:
            Comment ID: 2868405
            December 6, 2013 at 10:23 am

            “One day these bastards won’t be able to walk as a civilian without being taken out. They better stayed armed and heavily numbered. What a life, to never be able to take your guard down. One of us out there will strike these A-holes when they least expect it. That will be the new battlefield. No way to win, his team against your’s, but playing chess will work.”

            So who is going to be the first to pull the trigger?



            Didn’t think so!

            Good luck with that

            • A fellow named Jefferson said: “I support all mens freedom, I am responsible only for my own.” If they come for my freedoms I care not a grest deal if I stand alone or with a bunch of others, that I stand is what counts. If I survive the first time, then I’ll worry about others. All I have to care about is an honor guard to hell.

        • Who the hell invited you here anyway, Eisenkreuz? Do us all a favor and get lost.

          • Silver
            Let this guy keep talking. It shows us what we are up against.
            I know he is wrong most of the time but he makes us think and that’s a good thing.
            One day he will learn that he is wrong and he will be happy to be here on this site.
            Remember “F” America he changed. I wonder if he is still around with a new handle.
            Take care my friend. Stay safe and LOCKED AND LOADED!

            • Gotcha Sarge. Thanks.

        • You’ve missed the point eisnfucker. You’re still stuck in bullshit left v right world. Pull you’re head out of you’re cunt and start thinking for yourself.

        • Go read, War is a Racket” by former USMC Gen Smedley Butler. Then go read David Hackworth’s writing on the “purfumed princes in the Pentagon”. The jackass party will deeply and dearly love the Military, once it is filled with members who have unquestioning loyalty not to the constitution or country, but to the Party and will kill those deemed to be enemies of the party (state). You are clueless.

        • OK Eisenkraut you asshole, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH BREAVEHEART! Trekker Out. GOP!

        • Do you still beat your wife?

          • DK. You are a lawyer you know no harressment can happen when she is voluntarily return to a public forum she does not own. And no voli hence has been threatened. Once again we here at SHIF want it our way and we will threaten with the law anyone whodisagrees with us.

            • How the hell did this get here.

          • Sigi, only if she needs it!

        • Hello eisen, still the same old prick, huh?

      25. Just another guy trying to get his 15 minutes..

      26. This lunatic is a fine representative of any military.He will definitely get a promotion and soak up even more of the idiot taxpayers money. He’ll even want retirement benefits.

        I have been in the Army and the Marines and I can guarantee I was no better trained with a weapon than when I entered the service. Just got more practice.

        His attitude that only the military or other government thugs should have guns is the very reason he should be drummed out of the service.

        The poor brainwashed lad hasn’t a clue of what a well regulated militia is. (most don’t) He was probably taught that it meant well armed. That is incorrect. The constitutional well regulated states militia is in suspension. The idiot probably thinks the National Guard is the militia and he’d be wrong just like he’s wrong on every other thing. Or it’s possible he in fact knows what the militia is and doesn’t want it revived as he and his military turd followers would be courts-martialed for treason and dereliction of duty.

        This person is a hero to our fascist government but a demented traitor to the constitution he swore an oath to, just like the other oafs that call themselves representatives.

      27. Fucking traitor. Period. Brown-nosing his way up the chain. Sniveling little SOB. Hopefully one of the first to go if shit ever heads south.

        • Bateman is evil. Period. Death and damnation to all enemies of the Constitution and the republic.

      28. He sounds scared and rightfully so. That prying of fingers is a two way street. Another strategic error.

        • Aint doin no pryin of coldfingers….that’s what my Bowie is for… 😉 they wanna play word games and were playin for real…this wont end well for the govicorp!

      29. Did it ever even cross this traitors mind that his guns may be removed from his dead hands?!Those that will fire on citizens of their own country better think long and hard about this.Many when SHTF will be happy to only get it right once,a trade off as it were.

      30. A study which was recently published by Harvard took a look at firearm ownership, gun laws and violent crime, and suicide rates around the world. The authors sought to answer the question would banning firearms reduce murder and suicide?

        The study, which was conducted by Don B. Kates, an American criminologist and constitutional lawyer, and Gary Mauser, a Canadian criminologist and university professor, offered a stark truth: More guns does not equal more deaths and less guns does not equal less deaths.

        • If you have a mind to kill, guns aren’t the only answer.
          When will mankind learn that??

          • Very true, still the number one mass murderer (other than government false flags) in the US used gasoline and lit a disco on fire.

          • If I have a mind to kill, and Potential Victim #1 is armed, and Potential Victim #2 is unarmed, guess who will be the Actual Victim?

      31. if they want to treat us like terrorists, well damnit, im gonna become one. they can take my guns, but they cant take my knowledge.
        just look at what crazy muslims do on a daily basis, with their car bombs etc.. we can just learn from them, hell, even JOIN them to fight our corrupt “leaders.”

        if it wasn’t for Zionists, muslims and Christians would be getting along fine.
        this might be the future, Christians and muslims VS. Zionist jews.

        the military, patrolling American streets, taking guns, killing citizens? well, they better be prepared for IED’s in my yard.

        • “if it wasn’t for Zionists, muslims and Christians would be getting along fine.”

          Oh Gawd, another idiot. So what you just said is that the Jews are responsible for islamist terrorism.

          Yer a fucking geeeenius.

        • @Caliber – it’s just too obvious you’re a socialist/Marxist DIM-ocrat. Joining with the terrorists, just for the sake of convenience, is what Hussein Obama did in Syria. He joined with them in Egypt. Now he’s cozying up to Iran.
          Here’s the truth – if it wasn’t for those Zionist Jews fighting terrorism on a daily basis, there would be much more active terrorism in the world.
          I’m a Zionist Christian and proud of it. Here are two verses from the Holy Bible for you –

          Psalms 69:35 – For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.

          Psalms 129:5 – Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.

          • Zionist christian? aka= Very Confused and delsuional!

            Heres a couple verses for You two idiots. The actual words of Christ regarding your jew fetish…

            REV. 2:9 and 3:9 and John 8:44, now READ what Jesus Himself said about your zionist/jewish pals you fools.

            Read some Talmud verses of what the jewish rabbis say and think about Jesus and christians!…Then Wake Up already!

            Stop falling for False preacher taught Lies!

            This stupid asinine falacy of zio christians and jewdeo christians is unbelievable.

            How in the world can you be Both?

            New testement christianity as PER Jesus teaches says “Love your neighbor” “Do NOT STeal” “Do NO Murder” etc etc etc…

            While the babylonian talmud teaches “Kill even the Best of the gentile goyims”

            “If a jew Man has sex with a gentile girl 3yrs old or less its NO sin and NO crime…For homo sex with a gentile boy, the jew man has commited no sin or crime if that boy is age 9yrs old or Less!!!

            “If a jew finds a purse or wallet and knows or determines its a goyim gentiles wallet or purse, he should KEEP any Money found in it and NOT return the ID’s and other important papers within it, as that is helping the gentile goyim and NO Jew should EVER do anything to help gentiles.

            Their entire religious talmud teaches tons and tons of similar anti gentile teachings…Which are in DIRECT Opposite of Christianity!

            Therefore it is an abject Falacy to declare oneself a zio christian or a jewdeo christian…Its akin to a mix of OIL+WATER….They…don’t….Mix….PERIOD. And no matter how often You reject such factual truths and actual talmudic anti-Christ, and, anti christian as taught in their antiChrist synagougues of Satan as Jesus termed it, you will still continue to be a self deluded foolish NON christian. What do You not Yet Get?!..”What fellowship hath Light(christian) with Darkness(talmudic Judaic jew)?(NONE acording to Christ!).

            Rejecting the very things Christ and the apostles said and wrote throughout the new testement is NOT christian.

            It Is alot closer to antiChrist Jew babylonian Talmud though…One cant be a christian with them ideas or beliefs. Not acording to Jesus Christs teachings anyways.

            Thats the major problem today with so many evangelicals, baptists etc who fall for phony preachers falsehoods, and believe the old covenant is still as was, while totally Ignoreing the NEW covenant of christianity and most such deluded types never read much if any of the new testement due to always stuck in the OT, with heads firmily Planted up jewish ass….Sad Sad so delusional and too stuborn to admit when Wrong!…Hope You enjoy Goats as Thats the likley lineup you shall find yourself standing in on That day.

            PS: If either of You Two misguided deluded posterboys Need actual Talmud Verse Numbers to look up and verify what I wrote?…I am certain you can find those in Past articles that JQ Public has often posted of the same talmudic verses I wrote of Here, and JQP also Posted verses as Numbered and direct quoted from talmud for verification if needed…Or Ask and I am also sure JQP will be quite Happy to Provide such.(I have misplaced my listing of said verses or else I would have added actual talmud numbers to find said verses with etc).

            • PS: READ what your Zionist’s in, USA & Israel say!!!

              “Jew and Gentile are two worlds, between you Gentiles and us Jews there lies an unbridgeable gulf… There are two life forces in the world: Jewish and Gentile…I do not believe that this primal difference between Gentile and Jew is reconcilable…”

              – Maurice Samuel, “You Gentiles,” page 9.
              (“You Satans Seeds Offspring/children” Jesus Christ, John8:44)

              “In everything, we are destroyers — even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief… We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands.”

              — Maurice Samuel,”You Gentiles”,pages 152, 155, and 147

              Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”

              — 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars).

              THIS Jewish Man VERIFIES what CALIBER Said in his above posting!!!!!

              “Political Zionism is an agency of Big Business. It is being used by Jewish and Christian financiers in this country and Great Britain, to make Jews believe that Palestine will be ruled by a descendant of King David who will ultimately rule the world. What seclusion! It will lead to war between Arabs and Jews and eventually to war between Moslems and non-Moslems. That will be the turning point of history.”

              — Henry H. Klein, “A Jew Warns Jews,” 1947

              CHECK THIS OUT!!!!!!!! Then WAKE-UP Foolish ones!

              “Terrorism and ‘revenge’ were…to be glorified as the ‘moral… and even sacred’ values of Israeli society. . . . [T]he military symbol was now Unit 101, led by Arik [Ariel] Sharon. …The lives of Jewish victims…had to be sacrificed to create provocations justifying subsequent reprisals. … A hammering, daily propaganda, controlled by the censors,(MSM’s) was directed to feed the Israeli population with images of the monstrosity of the Enemy.” (Hey americans, sound Familiar? usa-MSM’s perhaps?).

              — from the dairy of Moshe Sharett, Prime Minister of Israel, in Livia Rokach’s “Israles Sacred Terrorisim”
              p. 44 (1980). Rokach’s father was Sharett’s minister of the Interior and had access to inside information. She was later found dead in a hotel room in Rome under mysterious circumstances.

              NEED MORE PROOF? Do You Get it YET? Why Not? Stuborn? Delusional?…or just total Fools…

              That final Quote shows that Fanatical ziowhackjews In Irael Kill their Own jews! in order to create ongoing constant FEAR so jews will Obey and act as their zio leadership wants jews to act like…Like a bunch of delusional Revenge Minded Terrorists so the Israeli Mossad can Live Up to their Slogan! IE: “Thru deception(Lies) WE Shall Cause WARS!” Mossad HQ slogan written above mossad entrance In state if Israel!!!

              Do You fools yet Get It? WAKE UP! Remaining deluded is NOT Okay nor good!

          • SilverSax……You really are a misguided soul. You are a perfect definition of a useful Idiot who perceives himself as a REAL CHRISTIAN. You are not.

      32. From the beginning we were farmers,hunters ,husbands and started this country long before a standing army was created. Lt. Col. Bateman,your a fool,a traitor and have no understanding why the second amendment was created.The reason it was created by our founding fathers had nothing to do with hunting,instead to protect us from narcissistic bastards like you. ALWAYS FAITHFUL TO THE END !

      33. I hope this dumbfvck will be immediately subjected to dishonorable discharged, as a violator of the oath to uphold and protect the constitution,, by the Republican Commander in Chief who takes over in 2017.

      34. Was with my son and shot a nice little 2 point this for the freezer with my trusty ole model 788 Remington 308 using 165 grain Sierra Blitzkings in front of 44 grains of Varget. Hit him directly through the rib cage destroying both lungs and other internal organs and it was a perfect bang-flop. I of course lost scope sight but my son said he saw blood and chunks fly at least 30 yards up the hill and commented and I quote, “God I would hate to be shot with a big game rifle”. This is what any invading force is going to be up against, and when huge chunks of their buddy starts landing on them, I bet they are going to start losing interest in this whole disarming of Americans campaign in a matter of hours.

        • dang it ment this year.. sigh,, we need an edit button Mac

        • I got a daughter that can hit a dime sized dot at 350 yards, consistently..guess who taught her?

          One Shot-One Kill

          Them red coated deer better step back to reality

          • Woah! Dang that is some good shooting. I could maybe have pulled that off with my model 10 savage extra heavy barrel 308 with the 16X Super Sniper, but dang it was toooo heavy to lug around so sold it from lack of use. Darn thing weighted 16 pounds at least but goodlordalmighty would that thing shoot!

            • Winchester Model 70 30-06
              180 grain BT

              I swear if she ever shot a mounted rifle she would be as good as any military sniper, and she is still wet behind the ears , she makes her ol man smile every time..its also a great way to take bet money away from guys at the range.

              I used to be able to do what she does but im much older now and my group is more the size of a quarter then in her case its like less then 1/2″

              Don’t get me wrong though , I would never put her in harms way, or expect her to go picking off blue helmets, but I do know if she had to, she could

              No ones taking her guns away either

              • Was leased into a ranch for years that had a bad ground squirrel problem so bought my 10 yo son a bolt action Savage .22 as the ranch owner paid out 50cents a tail. Had a cheapy 4x scope on it, but that kid could shoot the eyes out of a squirrel @ 75 paces blindfolded! Start them young and give them a lot of ammo and targets and you will wind up with a helluva marks person. (rifleman) is sexist and non PC../sarc

                • Might also start them on a great career! I started my son in the 4 H shooting club when he was about 9. Went to practices, camps and statewide competitions. Brought home a few trophies, then went into special forces,as an 18 year old. Been all over the world, doing what needed done, and the world is a better place, compared to what it would have been otherwise. Now he’s retired.but I hope he continues to stay in the neighborhood, I feel safer with him here.

                  • My daughter would never waste her skills on the Bought and paid for military..

                    We have the wall of DC to remind us all that you cant trust freedom if its not in your hand, ’cause were all fighting for a piece of the promised land, as they use our men and women as pawns on their resource wars..She wont fight for the powers that be, she will fight for herself thank you very much

              • What’s an inch or two, more or less? A 3 minute group all the way to a thou, open sights if your eyeglasses work. Use the M1, good sights.
                Semper Fi

      35. IMHO, a lot of things put out there are to hopefully provoke someone into doing something stupid. This way they can ram though their agenda hand and foot. Those of us that are truly awake know that it is only a matter of time till the lid blows off. Will it be soon or will they keep dragging their feet?
        I think the implosion of the economy will be the fuse that ignites a hell storm of destruction for America! Even those countries that think they can weather through will see major hardships.
        The fed can never taper their debt buying, but then again if you want to destroy a nation, just go hell bent on printing worthless fiat, then pull the rug right out from underneath. “As others have stated a proverbial shit storm will commence”. Systematic wealth destruction to the people that actually keep what’s left of this economy going.
        As I have stated before, sell what you know will not be of any use to purchase the necessities to sustain life and barter with.
        Like everything, there will always be those that will follow orders, because they believe they are righteous and no harm will ever come to them for following such orders. No one is above the law and no one is God!
        Untouchable is just a word.

        B Aware, B Awake, B Alive

      36. I’ll start worrying the day a Marine Corps commander goes along with the above statement.

        • A co worker of my wife is in the USMCR as a Sgt. He served in Iraq. We discussed this very subject and in the end he said, “Marines follow orders”.

          I wouldn’t put too much faith in the military supporting the Constitution and disobeying the Commander in Chief.

          • Marines don’t follow unlawful orders. Watch yer back.

            • I weren’t no Marine, Semper Fi. But I wish people on this site would’nt be so quick to always bad mouth our military, just because the MSM finds some elitist military officer to quote. Just remember most Military Officers come out of some Liberal College. Most true military men are just average Joe’s so don’t underestimate what they will do when the SHTF. Just remember they are our Son’s and Daughter’s. Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!

              • MT many here that think they are truly prepping still have no idea about the people out here and think all must be like themselves.

          • I have faith in my fellow devil dogs. I am more willing to trust in an organization started in a tavern than a government supposedly elected by its people.

          • {{{We discussed this very subject and in the end he said, “Marines follow orders”.}}}

            That is sad and I read that often.

            What I don’t understand is the gullibility of these Rambos that don’t understand while they are shipped to the east coast away from their west coast families to disarm, torture, and jail those on the east coast, someone from the east coast is being sent to the west coast to disarm, jail, and torture resisters there, namely their families.
            Can somebody PLEASE send a memo to these naïve Rambos????

      37. Listen to this interview about how we could legally get rid of the traitors in the White House. If the legal system doesn’t do it, our only hope is the military will:

        • the military had a chance to show whos team they play for, they have, and are failing in this regard.

        • With respect…the firearms in the hands of the people with or without the second amm are not there so that the military is/becomes our last hope…they are there for the expressed reason of keeping a tyrant in check…no,it will be good if most of the military helps the cause of liberty but its OUR job…its not something we the people get to pass the buck on…liberty is ours to lose…its ours to reclaim!

      38. The good colonel forgets that I won’t be dying of “natural causes”. I’ll be dying only AFTER I’ve shot HIS sorry traitorous ass to pieces!

      39. It simply isn’t enough to be “pro-gun”. If you haven’t joined the NRA, your silence is implying consent to the gun-grabbers.

        Joining the NRA is cheap – $30-something/year. You can pay for two years and not have to think about it for a long time.

        The NRA does the hard work which benefits you. Maybe you’ve written a letter or two to your congressman (maybe), but the NRA is there in DC, actually arguing and persuading the Congress for gun rights.

        It’s a sorry excuse to say, “I don’t want my name on the NRA’s rolls so the government can get it.” The truth is, if the government wants it, they already have it. They got it when you bought your guns. They have it because you visit this and other pro-gun websites. You’re not invisible to them.

        There are many benefits that come with NRA membership. You get lots of cool stuff, and access to lots more cool stuff.

        Don’t just be “pro-gun”.

        • If it hadn’t been for the NRA, they WOULD have outlawed most of your weapons after Sandy Hook. You know it’s true.

          • The NRA is too busy 2nd amendment rights and all of my rights for that matter are not negotiable.
            The NRA has allowed the camels nose under the tent way too many times to be taken seriously any more

            you want a group that wont bend? GOA

            • They saved YOUR guns after Sandy Hook.

              • they never came for mine

                • Yes they did, and the NRA stopped them. Feinstein and her accomplices were on the way to take them.

                  • No time to explain it to you…hope one day the blinders come off, and soon

                  • Well, I do have time to explain it to you.

                    Right after Sandy Hook, there was a huge push in the Senate and in the liberal media to outlaw 120 specifically named firearms. They wanted to outlaw ARs, any magazine which held more than ten rounds, any gun with even “one military characteristic”, and ALL weapons would have to be registered.

                    The NRA’s president, Wayne LaPierre, was intensely active and visible in this battle. He was interviewed on dozens of shows and personally testified before the Senate to protect 2nd Amendment rights. He and the NRA continuously lobbied Congress on behalf of gun owners.

                    The Feds were coming for your and my guns, and the NRA stopped them.

                  • It it wasn’t for the NRA/ILA we would have been disarmed years ago. I go back being a 2nd Amendment advocate from the first wave of anti semi auto legislation under THEN GOVERNOR Jim Florio in NJ.

                    When the dust settled Jim and his Legislature went packing complements of the NRA/ILA, Coalition of NJ Sportsmen and lets say a very strong alliance with the newly formed Hands Across NJ. Significant modifications to S-166 (Semi Auto Ban) were made by the AG (who is appointed).

              • um ,no they didn’t . I am responsible for my own self keeping . it matters not what the UCC law is . It matters not what the UCC law says. Whatever I decide I need , I do , or get, from wherever ,whatever ,I decide that I need .My way of thinking is ,its MY LIFE, not theirs , I do not abrogate that to anybody or organization, for they must manage competing demands that may not be in MY best interest.It is my responsibility ,for ME ,and MY personal decisions ,that I must live with .If Im hungry ,I eat. If Im threatened,I act,If Im anything , I respond to satisfy MY needs and those that depend on ME! I will not negotiate with those who make ME compromise on MY principles.If the nra was representing ME ,then they would advocate open carry everywhere period.they do not .they would be on tv saying the purpose of the 2nd amendment was to protect against an overreaching government !they are an example of controlled opposition!follow the money if you doubt what I say

            • Hank,agree with you that the GOA has at least to my knowledge compromised the 2nd,many big groups have.

            • Hank

              “you want a group that wont bend? GOA”

              The GOA may talk tough but they don’t weld the political horse power in votes and thus have bark w/o bite.

              • Or you could say kevin that they will not sell out the 2nd amendment,as times get weirder you will see more support for the 2nd.

                • Warchild

                  Sell out? They have no clout. They have nothing to sell. I’m just stating facts. The politicians could care less how articulate and just your argument is. All they care about is if you have the political muscle to cost them the next election.

                  “times get weirder you will see more support for the 2nd.”

                  Things are pretty weird right now. If times get a whole lot weirder the last traces of the rule of law will probably be abandoned.

                  The NRA/ILA operates in the political arena and there it is the undisputed heavyweight of grassroots organizations.

            • Most Pro Gun Org. do good but most are jealous of the NRA which has done more to protect our gun rights than all the others put together. But I did have a major issue when the NRA recommended Joaquin Jackson for the board of directors after he made the statement that we the people shouldn’t have the right to have more than a 5 round mag. Don’t know if he was reelected, but he’s no better than the rest of the gun grabbers. Trekker Out. Si vis pacem’ para bellum!

      40. sub·vert

        1. to overthrow (something established or existing).
        2. to cause the downfall, ruin, or destruction of.
        3. to undermine the principles of; corrupt.

        In my opinion, the expressed views of Lt. Col. Bateman disqualify him from serving in the U.S. Military and he should be dismissed forthwith. His is nothing less than a subversive who is attempting to undermine the principles set forth in the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. By his own actions he is in violation of the oath he took to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. He has to go.

      41. I remember the incident about the “Bonus Army”. The way I understood the situation is, the money wasn’t due to the veterans yet. But the Depression was in full swing and they wanted the money now. The movement was subverted by the communists who took over the leadership. The commies then radicalized the event and became a real threat to Hoover. Then Hoover got scared and ordered the troops to act. The Reds are good at subverting legitimate movements and radicalizing them for their own purposes.

        • maudy fricket

          The best recruiting agent the Communists ever had have always been ultra greedy Capitalists.

          Who put the US economy on the path that resulted in the Great Depression?

      42. IF they ever confiscate our guns, we are all as good as dead. Traitor Colonel will have to pry mine from my cold dead fingers long before I die from natural causes.

        • dude with have to pry his youngest child’s throat from my cold and dead fingers…my baies aren’t going to live the lives of tax-burdened, disarmed debt-serfs while this piece of shit’s kids get ivy league educations and government appointed careers stealing the people’s rights and hard-earned money.

          these people who plot the dissolution of America’s constitution, rule of law, traditions and faith currently have no fear of the consequences of their proposed actions to make America “a better place” for the NWO to shove it’s dick into.

          When the time comes, they need to be made aware of how close payback can reach them, their families, their fortunes, and their futures.

          Just sayin’.

      43. **Knock-Knock**
        “Sir, we’re here for your guns.
        “Sorry, officers, I don’t have any.”
        “But we have records of gun purchases you made.”
        “They were all stolen last week. I haven’t had time to report it yet.”

        • Prove it didn’t happen.

          • If it comes to that they wont be taking any stories they’ll be kicking your face in whilst they tear your house apart board by board…violating and hurting your family to get the truth from you or them…if unconvinced they just shoot you(if your lucky) and burn everything…the old I lost them excuse isn’t going to work,not because I say so but logic and reason say so…you really want to take that chance cause I don’t see them buying it if it goes that far…they will have to establish fear in the people right from the git/go or they will not be able to make folks cooperate…they know this…have somthing to hand over or make sure youre not in Dodge when they get there…keep your eggs in a lot of different baskets…they get some but not all and than you can strike back…2cents

            • That is right. Do your best to take names and faces. Then strike back on an idividual basis at a more appropriate time. Eventually no one will work for these agencies any longer. You don’t get a “get out of jail free card” just because your boss told you to do something. Fuck that. Whatever man comes after my shit will eventually be dealt with on a personal basis.

        • **Knock-Knock**
          “Sir, we’re here for your guns.
          “Sorry, officers, I don’t have any.”
          “But we have records of gun purchases you made.”
          “They were all stolen last week. I haven’t had time to report it yet.”
          “Oh I see, who did you sell them too?”
          “Sorry officer I didn’t get his name”
          “Oh really? We will see about that. Private bring the water board.”

          Suggestion, Don’t allow them inside the building.

          • “Stolen”, not “sold”.

            • Like they are goning believe stolen?

              • going too

                • Who cares if they believe it? Question is, can they prove it?

                  • Damn boating accidents…

          • Knock Knock….

            BLAM…blam blam blam….

            • Knock Knock….

              BLAM…blam blam blam

              Oh crap..sorry dad.

              • that’s what security cameras and peep holes are for wise guy…

          • ” I see. Who did you sell them to?”
            “Well, officer… probably to those five guys behind you that has you in their sights. Any more asinine questions?”

        • A change of an old anti-revenoorer’s tale:

          Masterbaterman rides up to a porch in his latest armored piss pot where a kid is loading ammo for his 30-06 deer rifle.

          Masterbaterman says, “kid I’ll give you $5.00 if you tell me where your father burried his guns.”

          Kid holds out his hand for the fiver.

          Masterbaterman says, “you’ll get your money when we come back.”

          Kid says, “you ain’t comin’ back.”

          Semper Fi

          • Survival Lesson #3–The importance of pre-dug holes.:-)

            • Oh… wait. I thought you were talking about pre-dug latrines.

            • A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you’re talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who’s gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin’ night.

          • …better stay away from copperhead road….

      44. Sad sad day for our nation and our citizens when we have an officer in our armed services saying such things. His philosophy is opposite of what our founding fathers had in mind when they gave us the second amendment. Shame on U.S. citizens who support officer Bateman Our forefathers are turning over in their graves hypothetically tongue and cheek. To mr Bateman if you are reading this, may god have mercy upon your soul at judgement day. I hope god allows me to drink a coke and eat popcorn and watch your judgement and allows me to talk to you after he judges you.

        • It is not representative of a governmental plan when one junior officer in a military costume speaks out of turn.

        • If you need this list, are you truly a prepper??

          • I have passed this list on to others prior to snowstorms, ice storms, hurricanes, etc. If these simple steps will help someone, then it is worth it.

            Many of these families have young children. I hate to see the children suffer because their parents did not prepare.

            For some, taking these ‘baby steps’ has led to stocking more food and supplies in their home and being more prepared.

          • What’s the harm, JayJay? Maybe somebody will get a good idea from it.
            Not you, though, because you already know it all, right?

          • JayJay: you are a Much valued contributor
            @SHTF. However, sometimes you are just
            to Crass.

      45. So easy for this coward to say.. his crying shaking cold sweaty ass will be hiding under a pool table somewhere if this were to ever be tried on the people.

        He’s living in a wet dream, and if anyone takes orders from him, than they’ll deserve what they will get!

      46. I believe that Lt Col Bateman showed us that he is the tool.

        • BMAN , instead of commie it is now progressive , and progressives love to alter history through mis-info and slander . good post on McCarthy .

      47. off topic, but i just saw how to open a can without a canopener….just rub lid on concrete.

        • I use a Cold Steel Kukri for just about everything. Never leave home without it. BAD to the bone weapon.. B b B BAD b buh b Bad.. BAD TO THE BONE!

        • Or just use a claw hammer…

      48. The shear numbers of armed folks in this country who will die for their rights is huge. The police and military will have a HUGE problem trying to disarm the many…more than THEM. The military could not even contain Bagdad. When it comes to guns those guys are rookies compared to all of the U.S. cowboys. Good luck !!

        • count me in…the only thing worse than our own military leaders turning their back on the U.S. Constitution and attacking the US citizens are blue-helmeted UN goons patrolling our streets to “assist” in occupation and weapons confiscation. If either happens, I guarantee that my future plans will be put on-hold.

          If the patriot movements unite and turn enough of these marxist/centrist fukkers and their wives and kids into red jelly and bone shards and the freedom-lovers will eventually win…puss-out when it’s time to make our stand
          together…and our children’s children will be slaves to the the global banking cartel under the Rothschilds/Rockefellers/Morgans and all those other multigenerational blue-blooded banker scum that have reduced US government into a vassal state since the federal reserve was created.

          We should do ’em all the same way that they did JFK….

        • Go around the net and taste what the rest of the worlds citizens are also saying. They want the gov to start a war with the Americans so they can come here. borrow a weapon they are not allowed to use and see if they can get a shot at some of the traitorous bastards. I find it totally amusing.

          • No one here searches the web. Everyone waits for KFC to bring it here.

        • Yep, it’s all talk. As has been said, there’s a gun behind every single blade of grass.

      49. As said before…and will say it again- KNOW your neighbors. Know who they are, where they work, who they work for and who they stand for. A lot of these scumbags have homes and families and relatives. You cannot hide forever, nor can you order a private security detail for all of them. You and your ilk will be found: weighed, measured and definitely found lacking. Have a nice day and sleep tight.

        • just remember, the other side is thinking the SAME THING! never forget that!

          • Where do you think that tactic came from? The difference is in the numbers. There are MORE of us than them…and they know it. The ‘ants’ are tired of the ‘grasshoppers’ and they are quite outnumbered. 😉

            • One that wil actually stand up and fight. I not so sure anymore.

              • Many will fight to as e their family. But once they have pushed it out the “door” they will try to go back to their old ways. Yes I prefer stay at home fighter over not fight at all. But there won’t be as many as you think when front lines need to be formed.

      50. Can citizens initiate a dishonorable discharge against a piece of shit like this?

        • No, the only thing that can happen is if his superior officer downgrades his next efficiency report or something like that.

      51. what he says is written in english, but like twitter, it doesn’t make any sense. i can’t help but wonder how many generals and colonels and lt. colonels they had to interview to find THIS evil son-of-a-bitch that would volunteer to say this drivel for their propaganda machine. hope this doesn’t require US to vote at the bullet box soon, but it sure is lookin’ likely. i propose that if they ever invent an intelligence measuring device, we use this guy as the baseline. meanwhile, i’m gonna party like it’s 1971!

      52. Come and try you POS. Just know that if this happens “WE the PEOPLE” will be rearmed with the weapons taken from you and the other traitor’s dead hands!

      53. Go fuck yourself “sir”

      54. Someone said it before and I’ll say it here again. Seems funny that they will only allow us muskets, single shot/double barrel shot guns, and bolt action rifles. When the people in the land we are fighting in can have and keep AK-47’s. Just an observation, that’s all.

        • Hathcock with a bolt action weapon is wayyyy more dangerous than anyone with a POS AK.

      55. This traitorous piece of taxpayer-funded shit Bateman needs to die. His family too. Anybody publish his home address yet?? How about his parents?? Where do his grandkids go to school?

        Hate to say it, but when these statist pieces of marxist trash bring-on the civil war against America’s citizens (including those of us whom they desperately do not want to support unto death with the social security and medicare that we earned by working all our lives and having 1/3 or more of our livlihood taxed-off without choice))….their whole bloodline should pay for their treason; wipe them out….it worked pretty well for the Bolksheviks when they slaughtered the czar and his next of kin….

        • Looks like you will be taking the bait, man, by threatening to take Bateman.

          • if they want to flush the fox from his den…they had better make sure their chickens are well guarded.

      56. A close relative of mine was stationed at Marine Corps HQ, where he was involved in the early, forced retirement of many Marine Corps officers. Officers who had given the Corps decades of honorable service were discharged as if they had committed a crime. As this was done under the banner of “force reduction” some officers were permitted to remain in the Corps, beyond their twenty years, while others, with less than twenty years of service, were sent packing. It was most interesting who was permitted to remain in the Corps and who was forcefully retired. Of course political views had nothing to do with the decision as to who stays and who had to leave, or so the Corps would like you to believe. In reality your political views and your contacts within the military decided over your future. If you were deemed essential, it did not matter if you were overweight or had a DWI on your record. At the same time someone who was deemed as non-essential was given 90 days to either meet the weight and physical fitness requirements of the Corps or be retired. Obama’s henchman made very sure the Corps knew who was to be retained and who should be let go. This LTC made sure his near future was secure and with any luck he might even retire as a full Col.

        • The parasites that be will throw his little bitch ass under the bus. Faster then you can say detroit haircut.

      57. Re-read the post again.

        The bloke doesn’t say anything about the military confiscating weapons.

        He puts it all on law enforcement to do the dirty work.

        And I have no doubt they will feel up to the task if asked to do it.

        • They wouldn’t get past the third street, and they know it too.

          Its a fools game

        • ever heard of mission creep dude? You think they’ll stop once half the police in the USA stop showing up to work for fear of being killed? Or because they don’t agree with the nazification of America via the DHS?

      58. Jesus of Nazareth, our lord and savior warned us about the pharasis and money changers in the temple. They are snakes and serve satan and only give lip service to God’s Law. We still have money changers and pharasis trying to run the world and persecute god’s children every chance they get

      59. Anyone signing up to crap on the constitution has signed up to be a domestic enemy. Make no mistake about that. Anyone willing to follow unlawful orders like this is not an American. ” The constitution is just a godd@*m piece of paper.” Would that be the same paper our crappy laws are printed on?

      60. Lt. Col. Robert Bateman needs to be disarmed and tried for treason!

      61. So. Lt. Col. Robert Bateman want’s to pretty much disarm America because of some stupid woman. Moron.

        Hey Lt. Col. Robert Bateman, post your address pretty please.

        • Here’s his email addy.
          [email protected]

          Google earth image with home address coming up next.
          Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide you treasonous POS!

          • Go on, take the bait, man!

            • In all fairness. We should get him to make a youtube video stating clearly his anti-gun stance. So there’s no mistakes about his position and what he looks like.

      62. the ass hole should put down his crack pipe and defend the constitution like he was hired to do.

      63. You POS all it will take is a google search and when you start we will visit those that are close to you, and then you. There are those of us even still from Nam who paid the price, and will be willing again to deep six your stinky ass to the hell where you belong. So bring it on Mf any time any place, but remember you may get me in the end, but I will take you and many of your little Obama loving robots out. FOAD.

      64. Simo Häyhä
        December 17, 1905 – April 1, 2002

        Nicknamed ‘The White Death’

        705 confirmed kills (505 with rifle, 200 with submachine gun)

        Was a Finnish soldier who, using an iron sighted bolt action rifle, amassed the highest recorded confirmed kills as a sniper in any war…ever!!

        Häyhä was born in the municipality of Rautjärvi near the present-day border of Finland and Russia, and started his military service in 1925. His duties as a sniper began during the ‘winter war’ (1939-1940) between Russia and Finland. During the conflict Häyhä endured freezing temperatures up to -40 degrees Celsius. In less than 100 days he was credited with 505 confirmed kills, 542 if including unconfirmed kills, however the unofficial frontline figures from the battlefield places the number of sniper kills at over 800. Besides his sniper kills he was also credited with 200 from a Suomi KP/31 Submachine gun, topping off his total confirmed kills at 705.

        How Häyhä did all this was amazing. He was basically on his own all day, in the snow, shooting Russians, for 3 months straight. Of course when the Russians caught wind that a shit load of soldiers were being killed, they thought ‘well this is war, there’s bound to be casualties’. But when the generals were told that it was one man with a rifle they decided to take a bit of action. first they sent in a counter-sniper. When his body was returned they decided to send in a team of counter-snipers. When they didn’t come back at all they sent in a whole goddamn battalion. They took casualties and couldn’t find him. Eventually they ordered an artillery strike, but to no avail. You see Häyhä was clever, and this was his neck of the woods. He dressed completely in white camouflage. He used a smaller rifle to suit his smaller frame (being 5ft3) increasing his accuracy. he used an iron sight to present the smallest possible target (a scoped sight would require the sniper to raise his head for sighting). He compacted the snow in front of the barrel, so as not to disturb it when he shot thus revealing his position. He also kept snow in his mouth so his breath did not condense and reveal where he was. Eventually however he was shot in the jaw by a stray bullet during combat on March 6 1940. He was picked up by his own soldiers who said half his head was missing. He didn’t die however and regained consciousness on the 13th, the day peace was declared.

        Once again total kills…. 505 sniper + 200 submachine = 705 total Confirmed Kills…all in less that 100 days.

      65. Hey they can take my guns from me when Im dead, but word of caution, they better let them cool off before picking them up ’cause they will be glowing orange

        Bring it!

      66. Come on Colonel, make your move and watch your subordinates go down in droves.

      67. This is what you get when Obullshit gets rid of all the upper brass in the military.
        I can assure you that if the military starts to come for our guns the police will know first and if I find out.
        If they think for one second that I and some of my LEO brothers will stand by, and let them take way our Second Admendment they have another think coming!!!!!
        I have said on many occasions that I will fight and die if need be to save this Great Republic.
        I would love to have a face to face with this Lt. Col. and explain to him how many good Americans he would be killing. If he said he didn’t care I would make it clear to him that we know where he and his family lives. I would just tell him he has threatened me and mine and what goes around comes around. I would also let him know that I’m not the only one! So Lt. Col. watch your 6,
        because good Americans are watching you!
        I pray that it never comes to this. Please everyone keep this in your prays.


        • Sgt. Dale


          5.56 or 7.62?


          • Possee
            I prefer 7.62×51 but 5.56 ain’t bad

            • To all you Biblical scholars out there…

              It matters not!

              be you a Jew,Christian,Muslim,atheist,or whatever (or lack of) belief system you adhere to..

              Religion is personal and a one to one relationship with your(choice)maker..deity..God..or none of the above.

              And then it is how you live your life according to these beliefs..

              Please spare us all these parables and arguments as they offer no solutions to our discussions,nor the problems we all face each and every day..

              We each will find our own faith of our choosing..nor will you convert any of us to your particular faith..or lack of.

              The mounting obstacles we all endure are by the means of those who are nothing short of pure EVIL..period!

              They have existed since the beginning and will continue to ravage their exploitative ways upon us..utilizing man made laws to enslave the rest of us while they NEVER abide by them themselves..


            • Sgt. Dale

              That being said..

              what’s your take regarding the 197 Military officers purged so far since 2010?

              The list is posted on this page below..



              • Possee:
                This is my feeling. I feel that he is doing it because he is afraid that they try to take over the Government because he (Obullshit) is violating the Comstitution.
                They have a better chance becasue of thier power is greater than ours, so to speak. Who would fight against them if they did try to take over the Govermnet. I think we would praise them.

        • Sgt. Dale Please and thank you in advance for the heads up if they try to take our weapons. We need more L.E.O.’s like you.

          • Slick:
            I will do what I can. Also you are welcome.

      68. I will look for him on the field…….

      69. If the world gets crazy enough to where we must have nation wide marshal law and a commander of the military gives the order to start confiscating guns, there will be gun fire. As a member of the military, I will fire the first shot into the head of that treasonous commander that gave the order and any others that follow that order!!

        • MSG.. I really hope your brothers next to you will do the same if ordered to fire upon citizens.

      70. The US Military is the best in the world because they are supported by the wealth and genius of the American people. They succeed in their campaigns against the enemy because of the incredible technology and funding they receive. The US Military can spend hundreds of millions of dollars to take out a small Taliban unit without thinking twice about it.The US soldiers have been trained almost exclusively to use this technology. Take a US soldier and plop them down into the middle of a battle without his air support, logistics, night vision, armor and unlimited supply of ammo and what do you have? This is their Achilles heal, deprive them of fuel and electricity and resupply to start. A weekend deer hunter is probably better armed, better at understanding the terrain and better at stalking and hiding in their own backyards, just as the original patriots demonstrated at Lexington and Concord.

      71. Lol
        Everytime one of these shlubs say they are going to come take our guns , I go out and buy another one they will never get their hands on

      72. This piece of shite needs hung till dead and rotting by a lamp post so all the other traitors can see what their fate will be.

      73. Hey asshole, still waiting for you to disarm the Afghans over in that scrub desert. You think its tough over there, come on down Col, we’d be happy to give you a lesson on unconventional warfare. Smelt your oak leaves and pour them down your throat you fuck.

        • AMEN !!!!!!!!! fuckin traitor and OATH BREAKER
          I love these scumbags that don’t believe in the constitution in its present form …….FUCKIN LEAVE THEN !!!!!! Go to Australia or england
          The constitution INCLUDING the second is the LAW OF THE LAND and nobody is keeping the haters here …..your free to go !!

          • Rich there is nothing wrong with talking about improving it.
            That what does make it unique.
            But those who just disregard it against their fellow man now there is the problem

            • ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!!! Once you open it up for change it allows potential people to change it for their agenda like they are doing now ……if it can be changed for good then it can be changed for evil purposes too …..think about it !!!!

      74. Well I am an auto tech and that commander had better not tough another tool because he isn’t trained in its use ……that’s his theory in a nutshell

      75. Six Hospitalized in Mexican Nuke Exposure

        “An official familiar with the case confirmed Mexican media reports that the six have been admitted to the general hospital in the city of Pachuca and may have been exposed to a stolen source of cobalt-60.”

        Drudge Report

        • Hey KY MOM? What are they going to do with them expose everyone in the hospital until they won’t need any lights?? LOL
          How stupid can you be??

          • It doesn’t work that way Learn what you are talking about before making an untrue scary statement Dipshit.

          • KY Mom I think everyone thought that comment was directed at you,
            I should have said how stupid could those Mexicans be?

        • their deaths will be agonizing….gives me warm fuzzies inside.

        • “An official familiar with the case confirmed Mexican media reports that the six have been admitted to the general hospital in the city of Pachuca and may have been exposed to a stolen source of cobalt-60.”

          Hope the theiving bastards croak! 🙂

      76. Just a question to some who know better then me. Can copper be used for making bullets. If so in a shtf scenario there might be plenty for the picking every house and building have hundreds if not thousands of feet of wire and copper piping.

        • Definitely! And bronze rod run thru a lathe makes beautiful semi AP rounds.

          • And anything can. E used as shotgun pellets. Hand full of rocks can

        • If you can melt the metal, you can cast it.

        • Relax, there will NEVER be a shortage of lead, it’s everywhere. We use 60,000 tons in ammo per year. If things get tough there are vast quantities available from cars and other stuff. Like now, there has been no shortage of lead, Powder and primers are the problem. Lucky enough, this panic has filled the public with more ammo than ever before. It’s unbelieveable how much ammo has been sold and how much is now in inventory. The place I go is still short of 22 and some others but they have 223 piled to the roof.

          • Para, this is what I’m counting on. When the 223 and the 308 gets stacked high enough the price will surely come down, if we don’t have somekind of incident, and I will be able to buy a tad more. As for the lead, my daddy always said I had some in my ass, but I ain’t been able to find it. Trekker Out. Waiting!

          • Cant find 22 here as well and reloading powder is damn near nonexistent.

            • If you are shopping for ammo or reloading.

              It is a listing of ammo and prices from various places, i found it really useful.

        • Hey satori stumbled on this website about the flu in Hong Kong thought you might be interested…

      77. err dude…I never said Jesus was “impressed” with Jewish flesh. He’s not impressed with ANY flesh.

        But he IS Jewish.
        He WILL reign from the Jewish Temple –
        On the Jewish Mt. Zion.

        Wake up, the Antichrist is not “the Jews”, the Antichrist will be a lone man.

      78. Hey, look, the fake religious trolls they drove off of Infowars are infesting this site now.


      79. Yea OK Bateman………… first!

      80. The gun confiscation started by Kennedy in 1961 is nothing new. Are Americans actually afraid of their own military? The military is a direct reflection of the people, and right now the majority of the American people are: fat, dumb, and on some type of anti depressant….The soldiers I saw coming out of basic training as 19Ds in the US Army in 2011 were appalling, fat bodies, “men” that could only do 5 pushups, guys that could not qualify with their own weapon… I would keep going but it won’t sell 🙂 Just remember, fear and hate will not defeat fear and hate.

        • Ryan, I remember Kennedy well, it seems many either weren’t around or they believe the MSM propaganda, about how great he was. He was just like all the rest of the Kennedy’s, as Liberal as you could be in those days. Now that we have a movie and supposed released info, he has become such a great hero again. Shades of John McCain, PT109. Trekker Out.

      81. THAT a*hole is TRYING to start a civil war. Count me IN — I’m on the GOOD GUYS SIDE.

        • The good guys try to keep a civil war from starting if possible.

          • No the good guys need to realize when is the right time to start.
            It coming so who starts it I don’t care. I care who wins. And that my side loses the least all unit of good people.

      82. This just has to be an agitprop piece designed solely to bait pro 2nd amendment people into a frothy frenzy. Perhaps some will make some open threats against the guy, which will be legally actionable, score one for them!

        Bait-man. Apt name. (mimes reeling in a big one).

        His scheme has not a snowball’s chance in hell of working, and being a soldier, he well knows it. Unless his goal is to ensure that most guns are owned by criminals (who far outnumber police), it’s also bad for the average citizen, and he knows it. And that’s why this is pure sh*t stirring rhetoric and nothing more.

      83. Man on the inside.

        Been trying. Not going to happen. At least any that will be able to fight.

      84. A little research dug up the following. Interesting to note that Bateman is very well connected, a career military man, and a member of the CSIS. This organization is veritable who’s who of globalist, corporate elites and power brokers. Think Brzezinski and Kissinger. Bateman (if that is indeed who he is) is evidently working point for this cabal and his comments are definitely part of their larger agenda.

        “Lieutenant Colonel Robert L. Bateman is an infantryman, historian and prolific writer. Bateman was a Military Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and has taught Military History at the U.S. Military Academy. He is currently stationed in Washington, D.C. Bateman has authored two books: “Digital War, A View from the Front Lines” (Presidio: 1999) and “No Gun Ri, A Military History of the Korean War Incident” (Stackpole, 2002). He’s also contributed to or co-authored seven more. Bateman’s byline has appeared on more than 300 print and major national web site articles.”

        • the plot sickens. Bateman is actually an Lt. Col. in the New York Guard a “volunteer organization” which assists the NY National Guard. This seems important in view of the fact that gun confiscation notices are presently being sent out to gun owners in NYC. Bateman and the New York Guard are undoubtedly possible potential agents in the accomplishment of Andrew Cuomo’s avowed gun confiscation agenda. BTW, good luck with that thread hijacking Jesus controversy. sheesh!

          • Yardfarmer:
            If you are right and they start to confiscate guns in N.Y. there will be a state wide Civil War. I for one am willing to leave Illinois to help my brother stand up for the 2Nd. Amendment Rights.
            WHO IS WITH ME???

            • Sgt Dale,

              We’ll need all the help we can. Enough of us in NY that won’t put up this BS. So where in NY is Bateman ?

              • 4th gen warfare,
                Eliminate the top people, their families too.

            • Sarg. you better stay home, Illinois will be next. Trekker Out.

              • M.T:
                You have a point.

                • Sarge,believe we should all stay in home areas,we know em better then many,do think a real turn on the people will be a lot of out of staters used as to minimize a “war between brothers”.I would still travel to say protest in DC,yeah,I know probably won’t do much good but gotta try.Will soon be dangerous to even protest as they may use em as a cattle grab of citizens,but then,well,it’s on.I hope the folks in gun grab states selling to out of state residents/burying em ect.You find yourself were you have to turn in,damage the receiver yourself,don’t give the enemy a working firearm.Actually,at moment,receiver only part of gun considered a firearm,sell the rest as parts on armslist ect.,many can build a receiver.

                  • OK
                    You guys talked me into it. I’ll stay home and FIGHT LIKE HELL, But if you need me after we have secured this area, I will be more that happy to stand by you guys and help you guys out. GOD WILLING!!!
                    Aim Small Miss small!!!!

            • Haven’t they already started in NY? I’m from CT and my husband has emailed me several stories over the last 6 months.

          • Looks like Bateman is a Colonel… kinda like Harland Sanders (Colonel Sanders) of Kentucky Fried Chicken fame.

            The New York Guard is a state volunteer force which augments and supports the New York National Guard as required with manpower and skills. New York Guard members serve in an unpaid status unless they are placed on State Active Duty by the governor and they cannot be mobilized for federal duty.

            Position Rank, Name Phone / Email
            G2 Intelligence COL Robert J. Bateman [email protected]

            • Mac: Please withdraw this comment. I’m not sure that Bateman is with the NY Guard. My read of other articles suggests the author of this article is, in fact, on active duty with the U.S. Army. Thanks…

          • There are TWO LTC Robert Batemans. Please, they are both getting death threats (the gun grabber should take his lumps like a man but he has a wife and newborn also being threatened which is ghastly).

            Here are some sites about the GUN-GRABBING BATEMAN:

            The 2001-2002 Military Fellows: (l-r standing) Lt. Col. Renwick Payne ANG, Lt. Col. Patrick Kelly USA, Lt. Col. Mark Brilakis USMC, Lt. Col. Kevin McLaughlin USAF and Maj. Robert Bateman USA with CSIS President Dr. John Hamre (seated).


            • Sorry, if he is willing to make veiled threats against patriots, his family can pay right along side him. Wife, kids, same thing, guess he shoulda decided what is more valueable,

          • Remember they have 400 meters on you. Keep practicing you get better.

        • Bingo YardFarmer.Whole bunch with all kinds of metals,pins, etc that are in the CFR list that are bought and paid for.

        • you need to complete his Curriculum vitae

          you forgot to mention “traitor to the Constitution”

      85. Good luck with that, I will be on the end of a 450 Grain Slug fighting with patriots for the Constitution. It’s about time for a new Independance Day anyway.

        • 450 gr is a total waste of lead and powder. It’s not RINO or CAPE BUF.

          • Depends on what you’re shooting. I think the Alexander Arms Beowolf .50 fires a .50 440 cal bullet.

            However, I do take your point. It’s overkill on most targets.

            • Have been loading 450grain shuttlecock slugs in 3″ shells for my 12gauge.

            • There is no such thing as overkill.

          • He probably has a shotgun with slugs.

            • 50 cal

        • It’s about time for a new Independance Day anyway.

          Agreed! And a new National song as well. The star mangled banner sux.

      86. This is the type of officer being beaten in Afghanistan by a few thousand fighters. I hope a few of his men have heard of fragging (other than from vid games). This pr**k seriously needs a date with a claymore mine.

      87. How many of you believe there will be machine guns, ammo, swords, tanks, bombs, 357’s ect, ect. in heaven?

        If you do not believe we will need them in heaven, then I say we do not need them here any more either. Let go, and we can transform this world. Believe me I am trying to do just that, it’s not going to be easy. I was raised to believe in fear and turning to love instead is a full time job. Peace!

        • you are confused. Heaven is not intended for the earth.

          • Revelations: A New Heaven and a New Earth where righteousness will dwell. One of my favorite. No confusion here!

            • Im curiuos ,are you reading the AURHORIZED king james version ? you know ,the one that he killed 38 translaters until he got what he wanted ? Or did you translate from greek or Hebrew? or? you know the authorized part was from English parlament at that time , interesting to read who they where and what they wanted .weird, Hebrew goes to an auto caps on the h. why ? oh wait its the jews that think as gods chosen people everyone else is less than cattle .Read the torah
              and Talmud ,which goes to auto caps also and figure out who really thinks they are in control lol eduacate yourself, this is ancient propaganda , before tv or internet was invented .If god wanted us to know ,without a shadow of a doubt , what was the correct path , wouldn’t it have said something ?there is a creator , but if everything that happens is used by it to further its purpose ,then it uses pain,suffering,joy ,happiness etc for ITS purpose.Wouldnt god write in your heart what you need to do ?just my ramblings but god cant tell me it needs me when its supposed to be omnipotent ,which would mean no free will , or god is battling satan ? lol it created it so ….. what does that mean lol .I think the supreme being doenst care ,since everything serves its purpose

              • Wow, I have been through all the same thoughts as you are expressing. Keep thinking and exploring, that’s what I am doing. Question all things.


                Only look inside for your answers, that is where they can be found.

          • If we cannot take care of this planet why would any so called god in charge let us go any where else. Live by the sword, die by the sword. I just choose another way, a non violent way. I honor those who fought and served and were brave, but I am hoping we can someday advance past the need for such things.

        • Ancient Echoes, this web site ain’t no place to argue the Bible, but Heaven is Ruled by God and this earth is ruled by someone else. So the Rules for Heaven and Earth are different, whether we like it or not. Trekker Out. Jesus Is My Lord!

          • I agree, no place is “the place to argue the Bible.” I do not quote it because I believe it, but because so many here do take it into consideration. I have studied it for years and cannot help but believe much of it is very wise and talks about a wonderful place we could all build if we would give up fear for love and learn to work together. A place where we would call heaven is ruled by love and we are ruled by fear, whose fault is that?

        • To each his own, ill keep mine thanks, never really felt like a sheep, more of a wolf.

      88. Man on the inside says form teams; good idea except, every one I have tried to wake up either runs away in fear, doesn’t want to make the effort, or has so many excuses for not doing anything, you would think you’re still in grade school.

      89. Regarding #1 & #2 — I have a 5-shot tack driver that will reach out over 1700 meters. I will prove it to you when your US Military Unit comes to my town. Whose dead fingers are we talking about?

        • Remember they have 400 meters on you. Keep practicing you get better.

      90. Those men who drafted the Bill of Rights saw these gun-grabbing Dum-0-crats(and their Rethuglican fellow travellers) coming, 200 years ago. That’s why they wrote the Second Amendment.

      91. Every city in the U.S. will be just like Mogadishu, Somalia if the military tries Martial Law/Gun Grab etc. I firmly believe the United States will be the worst battlefield in modern history next to Armageddon in Israel but that’s something of another tale. I don’t care what anyone says, everyone in this country is a survivalist, street thug type or a veteran of sorts. The American people are the last people you wanna do wrong. The fighting spirit is like no other. Bullets will fly night and day from every conceivable place possible and then some. I’d like to say that day isn’t coming but I’d be lying. The facts and actions of the corrupt are clear and in motion as we comment on this site. Load up and stand ready.

      92. Dear Lt. Col. Dick Wad,
        POUND SAND YOU TRAITOROUS SOB. You have most likely have been a boot licking pencil pusher during your entire military career. So, we taxpaying citizens have been paying for your worthless ass for quite some time only to learn that you are plotting against us. I hope you bring “personally”.

      93. This LTC is obviously a POG. Number 4 shows his lack of firearms knowledge. Many semi autos use calibers that are also common in bolt action rifles. So when buying ammo and your asked about the rifle it’s for just mention the make and model of a popular bolt action.

      94. I don’t buy this for a second. I think this proposal was meant ironically and made to get people talking, or make them angry.

        Besides, I’ve seen a convenience store get held up with a &*$(#* pitchfork, so I don’t think a muzzleloader robbery is so farfetched.

      95. Bateman……it’s Bait, Man…..don’t take it.

      96. May your pink-parts dry up and fall off Lt. Col. Bateman…before we shoot them off, that is if you try and take our guns!

      97. Cold dead hands. Interesting term that can apply to something else. I was thinking about the severe cold wave that just hit half the country and this is something that everyone should be well prepared for, sudden dangerous cold. Everyone should know and have plans for serious insulation of some safe room in their homes should you lose all power, gas, ability to heat the home. People should consider all ways of keeping the cold out if they live in such an area where severe cold can hit.

        With Earth changes going on now, ANYONE north of about 30 degrees or 30 degrees south of the equator could be faced with massive cold. Even people living towards the equator in high altitudes could have bitter cold. A supervolcano will drop the temperatures worldwide anywhere from 10-30 degrees. So would an asteroid or comet impact. The Sun could reduce its amount of heat to the solar system, this type of star sometimes does that. Nuclear war. Even a major change in ocean currents. Cold can and does happen.

        People though can layer themselves and stay alive. this includes creating dead air spaces within the home. Much can be done with plastic sheeting with this. Everyone that is vulnerable to real cold might want to kind of review how to make things stay as warm as possible. The most severe cold of anytime in the year in the northern hemisphere is January and early February as we are still 2 weeks away from the first day of winter.

        • If you factor in the pole shift, I should have a mild winter.. Its 4 outside right now.

        • Sounds about good too me. The current gene pool is long overdue for a few gallons of bleach

      98. Pansy ass bitch Colonel. He’ll probably piss his pants when the SHTF.

        • Darkstar

          I’ll bet lt. Col. Bat man will hit it
          for the bat cave and hunker down with
          his sidekick Throbbin’ Robin.

          • Yep,
            Its not like these guys are out in front leading, they lead from behind,,,
            Sorta fucking gutless.

      99. He can follow orders, suck up to his superiors, and rise to the top of the government chain. To bad he can not think for himself. We need to derail his political by defeating his election hopes.

      100. Lt. Col. Robert Bateman has gone rogue. He is a traitor to his country and countrymen. He should be stripped of his rank and dismissed from the service immediately. What he rights as opinion is really political and that’s illegal as is his obvious treason against the Constitution of the United States. “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” Sir!

        Lt. Col. Bateman reminds me of Captain Queeg. He should be Baker Acted.
        Captain Queeg: Ahh, but the strawberries that’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers…

      101. Just one more noose to fill when the time comes.

      102. since we cant very effectively take care of the bad decision makers. We are left with dealing with whoever they send to enforce those uncounstitional laws. Tar and feather the tax man. Sherman went down the river in a steamboat. stopped and went ashore and burnt whatever. What should have occurred was the steamboat should have been destroyed. If a enforcer loses something every time he tries to enforce he will soon quit. We need to be selective terrorist like those who dumped the tea in the harbor. Make shure that no one will even think of becoming a enforcer. I once had a spate of cows being shot? A certain clan was upset because I didn’t let them unfairly trample on me. I wasn’t related to them and bought land at auction that one of them lost to the bank. Suddenly that clan when I had one shot has two shot? Suddenly I didn’t have anymore cattle killed? terrorism does work.

      103. Be advised there are two LTC Robert Batemans who are not related. One is an older guy from Philly and now living in New York.

        The other is the gun grabber and he lives in England on TDY.

        Apparently, he and his WIFE and INFANT CHILD are getting death threats.

        Look, he made his bed and is big enough to take his lumps. But please people, leave his family out of it.

        Here are some good links about this guy, who has a long history of FOOT-IN-MOUTH DISEASE:

        The 2001-2002 Military Fellows: (l-r standing) Lt. Col. Renwick Payne ANG, Lt. Col. Patrick Kelly USA, Lt. Col. Mark Brilakis USMC, Lt. Col. Kevin McLaughlin USAF and Maj. Robert Bateman USA with CSIS President Dr. John Hamre (seated).

        • Pilgrims:
          As much as I agree with you about his family, and I would do everything I could to protect them. That is how I feel now, but if one of my loved ones are kill all bets are off!!!
          Lt Col. put them in the cross hairs we didn’t. He should have thought of that when he threatened me and mine, and you and yours by saying he would pry our cold dead hands from them.
          The Lt. Col. is responsible for what he sais, and that makes him responsible for what happens to his family.

          • They are inviting the brutality upon themselves. These tyrants make such statements and think there will be no repercussions.

            I’m reminded of Mussolini and more recently, Romanian dictator Ceausescu….Both executed by the people that they had suppressed and terrorized. And both of their wives got it too.

            Want to be a tyrant? Don’t have a family.

            When they start taking the guns, nothing will be off the table.

          • Ya think all those this Bateman is speaking of disarming DON’T have wives and babies??
            Road travels both ways.
            He should have thought of the consequences BEFORE making these statements globally.

        • Disagree with his ass,hope bad times coming for him personally,but leave his family out of it.Take him on publicly like here,spread the word about idiots like this ect.,tis the thing to do.Those who do hunt down citizens in the future and kill someones family had best have their families in bunkers,sucks,but at that point will be a bloody tit for tat.I have no doubt that at some point just like with citizens some hacker will list folks like these family members and adresses,don’t go after the families but I suppose you know where they live could”meet up”with them down the road,sad times it seems we are headed for,it really gets ugly don’t wait for em to come,bring the fight to them.

        • This POS and his people wouldnt hesitate to fuck over your entire family,
          Ever hear that saying “Alls fair in love and war”
          This will be war, the brass and their families are fair game.
          Make no mistake, they wont hesitate to lock up your kids and shoot you and your wife,

      104. bateman will be among those who will die a traitor’s death. Then WE will take his weapons. The arrogance. It does not matter how many tanks armored personnel carries etc, they are not invincible. “We the people” have the nothing to lose.

      105. I have said this countless times and I’ll say it again:
        ANY government employee who tries this better hide their families because there WILL be reprisals .

      106. Apparently, LTC Bateman’s pension is more important to him than is the oath he had taken and the people he had sworn to protect.

        Moreover, he’s willingly forsaken warrior’s pride and become no greater than a mercenary (and we’re just “hapless” bounties) – meaning he’s more aligned with his own pocketbook than he is for “the cause”, and he’ll be as patient or impatient, as the dollar’s value dictates.

        He’ll wash out sooner than later, and it looks like it’s up to us to *push* him in the right direction (pile up the bodies of his useful idiots/instant stooges and render his pay-grade worthless)…

        …Or, just “A**hole Discharge” him, immediately – won’t make a lick of difference to us!

      107. The days are numbered for all traitors and all foreign enemy combatants who are presently setting up camp in America.

      108. The way I feel right now is, if this is for real, that bunch of ass wipes running all this, are in for one big surprise and a HUMONGOUS SMACK-DOWN.
        MOLON LABE

        • SEMPER-FI !

      109. Great letter to Bateman at:

        openlettertoLCRobertBateman / UncleDaves arsenal of freedom.

        Get your chuckle for the day!

        • IT’s the smelter, No one has said the mines are closing. I don’t like it, but the ore will still be processed, likely in Mexico.

      110. Hang this treasonous dog with feinstein and that poser in the wh.

      111. I USUALLY DONT POST MUCH BECAUSE OF OSPEC BUT I hope this never happens but if it should /////////LORD IF THIS IS THE DAY YOU CALL ME HOME PLEASE LET ME DIE IN A PLIE OF EMPTY BRASS!!!!!/////// also I would sell your guns to your children when they are old enough / so they will be around for another generation if they can find them? You know the ones u didn’t lose in a boating accident // AND I GOT SOME WICKED ASS BOLT ACTIONS //// AIM SMALL MISS SMALL MOLON LABE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • I refuse to go through any more legal gymnastics in order to keep my guns.

          They want to take them? Have at it. Bring body-bags…lots of them.

          • Im with you on that one, shall not be infringed.

      112. He’s right! They will have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers!

      113. Yep… you WILL pry it from my cold dead hands.
        However… what are you going to do with the bodies of your minions and puppets you’re going to have to walk over to do that?

      114. Brian Hughes.

        I think of it more as transitional periods. The collapse of the dollar which in turn feeds into a banking holiday or days. Run on the banks and grocery stores. The implementation of Martial Law and then the confiscation of weapons, food or wealth.
        As the progression comes to the breaking point, resistance is the only answer to the problem. One that in the beginning a few are taken without resistance but then results in a parabolic cure that may lead to civil war.
        There again with the major part of the populace being “Dumbed Downed” anything is possible. Of course they will ask for the guns by making them illegal and when that part is finished they will come door to door.

        The second shot heard round the world may not be heard at all.

        • There were 132,419,000 housing units in the United States in 2011. Door to door confiscation? I don’t think there is enough hours in a day to do that.

          • Especially since they will need to kick the doors in at 3:00 AM, that is going to limit the time available.

            Not to mention, they will need to kick said doors in twice, or more, to get them all.

            Isn’t going to happen.

      115. Bateman is not a commander. He is a bitter, egotistical bookworm who has been repeatedly passed over for the next higher rank. He influences little, and now, with retirement looming very near, he is trying to bring his name to the forefront so that the power he craves may manifest itself in some type of left-wing position/appointment within DHS or DoD… He is NOT a representation of our fighting men and women. He is nothing.

      116. FBP

        “Sunbathing to get clean.’

        You read that in the Military Survival book.

        Good one! Hahahahahaha.

        • It works just don’t fall asleep with your legs spread.

      117. Someone attempted to attack my family today. They swerved through oncoming traffic and slammed on the brakes in front of my sister forcing her to stop and then they jumped out of their vehicle and attempted to charge her. Her 3 year old boy was in the backseat singing, “Oh Christmas tree” the whole time oblivious to the situation. Luckily she has her permit and was armed but was able to get away by driving over some grass and heading to a police station where she was escorted home. These men are cowardly fucks and I hope they die a slow death – for now I am thankful my family is safe and that they were able to not only avoid the situation but if all else failed she had some form of defense. This is one situation in a million where a hand gun evened the playing field some. I am still very sad and angry about today and I don’t know when that will fade. My brother will follow her for now as we do not know who they were or their motives. What a pathetic America we have come to know.

        Two men preying on a mother and child deserve much worse than to be shot. I hope I get to meet them one day, I will not be so quick to end it for them.

      118. We had Lt. Col. North and now Lt. Col. Bateman, Lt. Col’s seems to be running things HMMMMMMMM.

      119. Lt. Col. Robert Bateman, of the Waffen SS, right?

        Frickin’ fascist.

      120. “Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board and then struts around like it won the game.” Vladimir Putin

      121. Doritos has the best commercials.

        • Ted, Oh yeah, I guess your the brains of this operation!

      122. If the people think the right is any better than the left; then you are under Orwellian control. The right and left have been bought and paid for before the people where even born. Who owns the U.S monetary system brought in on the date 1913?

        Not the Private Federal Reserve controlled by a bunch of blue bloods in Europe could it? Disband the 1 Party dictatorship; the Siamese twin 1 party system we have in the U.S. If you can’t figure out both sides are played on the stage while your being imprisoned by now you will never figure it out. The founding fathers were against political parties. Educate your selves and look it up; investigate it…

      123. I agree with a lot of the poster here, especially the person who said they won’t be able to wait us out b/c this won’t go another 20 years.

        My observation is that there are two opposing forces from a dynamics perspective. The first is an attempt to engineer a Bolshevik-style revolution in the USA, obviously being perpetuated from the top-downward. Concurrent with that is conditions being set for a French-style revolution from the bottom-up. The latter is the logical consequence of all of the engineering to set the conditions of the former.

        Both dynamics will clash, and I don’t see any way out of that.

        • Study “The Frankfurt School”…

      124. So you feel powerless in this world? Wondering what you can do to help your family, community and Republic? If you live in the southeast one thing you can do is check out SECOM.

        Get involved with a Community based Org where most everyone can get involved and make a difference.
        SECOM is a Constitutional Militia with the focus of reaching out to our communities and arming our communities with the tools for education , defense , prepping and Survival.

        SECOM is looking to reinstate the sense of community within our communities.
        Get involved locally!

        What is SECOM?
        We are the
        Southeast Constitutional Militia.
        We The People-In Full Support of Constitutional Ideals.

        Who We Are!
        We are simply… American. Our ancestry might be African, Bulgarian, Columbian, Danish, Ethiopian, French, German, Haitian, Irish, etc…. but yeah, American


      125. Bateman is nothing more than a little weasel suck-up and is definitely a small minority in the USA military and a disgrace to the uniform he wears. He’s thinking he’ll be on the winning side if Obama pulls off elevating himself to Emperorship. But Bateman will also be the first to be hung by his heels when it all fails. Just hope they use a strong enough rope for this fat traitorous turd.

        There have always been suck-up weasels like Bateman. It never ends well for them.

        Firearms confiscation in the USA? NEVER! In Texas alone we issue more than 1.2 million hunting licenses annually. This excludes many hundreds of thousands more that have handguns for self-protection. So Bateman and what army are going to dare go door to door and politely ask for our firearms? Logistically, there are not even enough Batemans in the USA to begin to accomplish such a task. So he can threaten all he wants. All hot air.

      126. Joseph Story, Associate Justice, U.S. Supreme Court (1833) wrote: “The powers of the general (federal) government must be principally employed upon EXTERNAL objects, such as war, peace negotiations with foreign powers and foreign commerce. And to lay taxes for the common good. In its internal operations it can touch but few objects. The powers of the states, on the other hand extend to all objects, which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties and property of the people and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the state.” Something Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and President Obama just can’t comprehend.

        • Old Vet:

          Pelosi, Reed, and Obama comprehend all right. They just circumvent.

          Love your insights Old Vet. Keep on keeping on!

      127. “To conquer a country in the old days, it was a physical invasion, brute force – end of story. But in today’s electronic society, it is through banking, the stock exchange, the bond exchange and the derivatives market. Basically, there has been no physical invasion, no black helicopters and no physical carnage. Today, it is debt.” Early this year Michael Hudson said: “The U.S. economy has reached its debt limit and is entering its insolvency phase. We are not in a cycle but at the end of an era. The old world of debt pyramiding to a fraudulent degree cannot be restored, only delayed to postpone a painful day of reckoning.”
        Joan Veon

      128. Don’t know about the rest of you..but this list gives me pause for concern

        Grand Total: 197 Officers Purged From Military..

        Year: 2013 (9, so far).

        1. Marine Col. Daren Margolin – Quantico – Oct. 18, 2013. Was in charge of Quantico’s Security Battalion.
        2. Marine Major General C.M.M. Gurganus – Oct. 12, 2013. Commander Regional Command Southwest and I Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward) in Afghanistan.
        3. AF Major Gen. Michael Carey – Oct. 8, 2013. 2-star commander of 20th Air Force. 3 wings of ICBMs. 450 nukes. Covered 3 AF bases across nation.
        4. Navy Vice-Admiral Tim Guardina – Oct. 9, 2013. 3-star vice-commander all US nuclear forces (land/air/sea). Relieved of command. Demoted in rank to 2-stars.
        5. Marine Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant – September 2013. Director of strategic planning and policy for U.S. Pacific Command and commander of the Aviation Wing At Camp Bastion, Afghanistan.
        6. Marine Col. James Christmas – July 18, 2013. Commanded 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit. Also, commanded the new Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit.
        7. Army Brigadier General Bryan Roberts – May 2013. Commander, Ft. Jackson, SC.
        8. Marine Gen. James Mattis – May 2013. Chief of CentCom.
        9. Army Major General Ralph Baker – April 2013. Commander of Joint Task Force Horn of Africa at Camp Lemonnier in Djibouti, Africa

        Year: 2012 (Overall total – 4 +24 = 28 Final total).

        1. Marine General John R. Allen – Nov. 13, 2012. Commander, ISAF – International Security Assistance Force.
        2. Army General David Petraeus – Nov. 9, 2012. Commander, International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and Commander, U.S. Forces Afghanistan (USFOR-A). Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012.
        3. Navy Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette – Oct. 27, 2102. Commander, USS John C. Stennis strike group. Relieved within a day or so of Benghazi.
        4. Army General Carter F. Ham – Oct. 18, 2012. Commander, AFRICOM. Relieved during Benghazi from direct command of AFRICOM.

        Naval Officers (all in 2012): Total – 24

        1. Cmdr. Derick Armstrong, Commander, guided missile destroyer USS The Sullivans.
        2. Cmdr. Martin Arriola, Commander, USS Porter.
        3. Capt. Antonio Cardoso, Commander, of Training Support Center San Diego.
        4. Capt. James CoBell, Commander, Oceana Naval Air Station’s Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic.
        5. Cmdr. Joseph E. Darlak, Commander, USS Vandegrift.
        6. Cmdr. Franklin Fernandez, Commander, Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24.
        7. Cmdr. Ray Hartman, Commander, amphibious dock-landing ship Fort McHenry.
        8. Cmdr. Jon Haydel, Commander, USS San Diego.
        9. Cmdr. Diego Hernandez, Commander, ballistic-missile submarine USS Wyoming.
        10. Cmdr. Lee Hoey, Commander, Navy Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego.
        11. Cmdr. Dennis Klein, Commander, submarine USS Columbia.
        12. Capt. Marcia “Kim” Lyons, Commander, Naval Health Clinic New England.
        13. Capt. Chuck Litchfield, Commander, USS Essex.
        14. Capt. Robert Marin, Commander, USS Cowpens.
        15. Capt. Sean McDonell, Commander, Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14.
        16. Cmdr. Corrine Parker, Commander, Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1.
        17. Capt. Lisa Raimondo, Commander, Naval Health Clinic Patuxent River, Md.
        18. Capt. Jeffrey Riedel, Program manager, Littoral Combat Ship program.
        19. Cmdr. Sara Santoski, Commander, Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 15.
        20. Cmdr. Sheryl Tannahill, Commander, Navy Operational Support Center Nashville.
        21. Cmdr. Michael Ward, Commander, USS Pittsburgh.
        22. Capt. Michael Wiegand, Commander, Southwest Regional Maintenance Center.
        23. Capt. Ted Williams, Commander, Mount Whitney.
        24. Cmdr. Jeffrey Wissel, Commander, of Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron 1.

        Year: 2011 Total – 1 + 157 = 158 overall

        Army Major Gen. Peter Fuller – May 2011. A top U.S. commander in Afghanistan.

        157 Air Force majors. Military advocates decry ‘illegal’ early terminations of 157 Air Force majors

        Year: 2010 Total – 1 ( total)

        1. Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal – June 2010. Overall commander Afghanistan. Replaced by Gen. Petraeus.

        1. Year: 2009 Total – 1 (total)
        Army Gen. David D. McKiernan – 2009.

        First 4-star relieved since Truman relieved MacArthur. Commanded in Afghanistan.

        Your thoughts???


        • Possee: This is truly disturbing, but what will the senior EM’s do they are the back-bone, will they act or follow orders.

        • My thoughts?
          I sure as hell hope these guys are talking to eachother!
          With all the buzz going between folks like us i hope there is a bigger movement brewing, i may be graying and have slowed down a bit but i aint dead yet and am sick and tired of this shit, and i know im not alone!

          • I am a hellova lot better hunter since I have “slowed down a lot.”

            • One thing about the point im at in life,
              I just dont give a crap about a lot of stuff anymore, and am not really afraid of much either.

              • Yeh kula ,
                Time brings wisdom ,
                Youth and vigor is no match for age and treachery.

                Even an older guy can don a GHILLE and be a one shot paddy effectively.



                Semper Fi 8541

              • Kula and others

                Inspiring story :


                Get the book FIVE STAR READ

                Never discount the effectiveness of a determined individual .

                In an urban environment read about the uprising in the Lodz ghetto , a few can sometimes severely Upset a superior force.

                Remember 200 individuals kept the British Army buzy in Northern Ireland , the English never did totally control the rural areas.



                Semper Fi 8541

      129. To all you Biblical scholars out there…

        It matters not!

        be you a Jew,Christian,Muslim,atheist,or whatever (or lack of) belief system you adhere to..

        Religion is personal and a one to one relationship with your(choice)maker..deity..God..or none of the above.

        And then it is how you live your life according to these beliefs..

        Please spare us all these parables and arguments as they offer no solutions to our discussions,nor the problems we all face each and every day..

        We each will find our own faith of our choosing..nor will you convert any of us to your particular faith..or lack of.

        The mounting obstacles we all endure are by the means of those who are nothing short of pure EVIL..period!

        They have existed since the beginning and will continue to ravage their exploitative ways upon us..utilizing man made laws to enslave the rest of us while they NEVER abide by them themselves..


        • Thank you!

        • Couldn’t have put it better possee.
          Big thumbs up.
          Not so newbie.

      130. “We Will Pry Your Gun from Your Cold, Dead Fingers”

        I haven’t had time yet to read all of the comments so forgive me if this is a repeat of an idea already posted.
        Look at their active, combat effective resources and compare to the number of people being forced into combatant roles on their own turf, not counting those who will cooperate.
        If they achieve a 3:1 kill ratio we still win just on the numbers, not to mention the political backlash.

      131. Not until the Colonel is DEAD first !

      132. The bullpen is warming up, major earthquake is coming again. Almost 100% of the when the same spot is hit on the SW Indina Ridge there is at least a 6.5+ that arrives within 15 days. Since the previous earthquake cycles are still on, by Dec.17, within 10 days from today, it should hit one of the following areas.

        Far west Indonesia up to Mymnamar
        India/China border region
        Japan, especially south to central portion of country
        Bering Sea to Aleutian Islands, especially Andrenof and Fox Islands
        Southern Alaska, watch Kodiak Island to Kenai Peninsula
        Cascadia Fault, especially southern portion towards Eureka, Calif.
        Most of California, southern portion more likely
        Mexico from Tropic of Cancer line to Costa Rica
        Far east Caribbean plate, including Venezeula
        Central Chile to Columbia
        New Guinea to Tonga and Samoa
        North Island New Zealand to Kermamdec Islands to south Fiji

        There is an outside chance of Turkey to west Pakistan that includes Afghanistan, also Central Africa. This is due to the angle of the point at which this quake occurred between the African and Antarctic plate.

        The previous precursor quakes have narrowed down these to smaller sections rather than a wide paintbrush type swipe over a broad area. It still seems very likely that north to northeast section of the Australian plate and the northern Pacific plate, and the Cocos and Nazca plates are the most likely to let off a major earthquake.

        High 6 to low 7 has the best chance.
        7.5+ around a 40% chance
        8+ around a 25% chance
        9+ about 20% chance.

        There is still much energy unaccounted for from all those plate boundaries that for 2 months said a 50% chance of a 8+. The 7.8 in the Scotia Sea region was probably not what these precursor quakes were indicating.

        • JOG go dark?

        • BI: Keep your eye out for that 7.0 around Vanuatu and the followup on So Cal. While Mt Enta is erupting like an oozing sore, I expect one day in the not too distant future for it too explode like Mt St Helen, or worse.

          That is the trigger according to Cayce. 🙂

      133. Here’s an interesting little article I just stumbled upon.

        Apparently, there’s more to the Patraeus scandal than what was being highlighted. This is a lefty site, but the info is worth a looksie, IMO.

      134. If this article is true and if this officer isn’t punished for openly expressing a partisan political position as a member of the military then beware of the slippery slope. There’s a long standing tradition of our military staying out of partisan politics, there’s even laws forbidding it, The Hatch Law is just one of them. When the military becomes partisan then we have become a third world dictatorship. Congress needs to openly and aggressively discipline this officer and make an example of him to all others serving.

        When you are serving in the military, you are serving the constitution and this nation, not a political cause, not a partisan view, if you can not keep the two separated then you need to be separated from the military.

        • No offence Rick (and I know I’m going to collect red thumbs like they’re going out of fashion), but you are already in a 3rd world dictatorship. The chimp in charge decides for himself what happens, where, when and to whom and no-one seems to be able to say otherwise. That IS a 3rd world dictatorship.(even though most of you still believe you’re a first world country)
          You have my genuine sympathy.
          Not so newbie.

          • Brit, no offense taken, we’ve been under a softer and gentler dictatorship for some time with the system as a whole being the dictator. If the military becomes partisan then we’ve progressed from a soft dictatorship to a hard dictatorship.

      135. Their problem is , most gun owners are awake

      136. Looks to me as though our “well organized militia” may have some respectable leaders on the horizon. Those Generals who were let go because they wouldn’t fire on us should be welcomed whole heartedly.

      137. Appeals to the founding fathers are ludicrous. They are dead. It is not their country anymore, it is mine.
        Appeals to the bible are asinine as it has no more moral authority than Aesop’s Fables. In fact, Aesop’s Fables are in many ways more moral than the bible, after all, the bible condones torture and genocide.

        • NC joe

          I didn’t realize the country was yours. Its my country too and really don’t want to scrap all those codified rights they penned “For Ourselves And Our Posterity”. If you want to change the Constitution just get enough support for an Amendment. It’s truly is a “Living Document”.

        • You may think this country belongs to you, Joe, but it belongs to all of us. You are just 1/300 millionth of it, that makes you pretty small potatoes, just like everyone else.

          Get over yourself.

      138. off topic – preppin’ for wimmin folk.

        This hilarious video does contain many elements of truth concerning the relative benefits of disposable tampons versus modern reusable cups. I find a good belly laugh is usually the best way to introduce serious subjects to newbies, and personal hygiene after shtf is really important.

      139. Dr Jim Garrow is featured in another article where he claims a nuclear false flag attack against the US was recently averted. Garrow is a Christian who founded the ministry, “Pink Pagoda Girls”, which is focused on helping Chinese baby girls to be adopted.

        • Jim Garrow spent 45 years as a CIA operative and was number 2 when ObaMao found out about him working in the CIA. ObaMao had Mr. Garrow forced out just a few weeks back. Mr. Garrow has tons of information on the ObaMao Regime and there are now several interviews on YouTube with Mr. Garrows spilling the beans. If you haven’t watched any of his interviews please do and spread the word. This guy is Gold! He is friends with many people in high places in this country and other countries and has dirt on the ObaMao Regime ready to be disseminated if they murder him. I watched an interview today of him discussing just what you said about the nuclear attack attempt by ObaMao on the U.S. ObaMao had ordered three nuclear weapons to be detonated above the U.S. this past November as EMP weapons to kill off the population of this U.S. Sounds crazy? Maybe five years ago but sure as hell not now!

      140. Peterson

        I do agree that Mac does puts out some fantastic articles to read. You can tell the good ones by the high number of hits and comments.
        We preppers have to put up with a lot of shit from all angles. Not only do we have to deal with the world with subjects of Finance, Crime, Laws which I consider external, but also the internals of prepping like First Aid,, Water purification, weapons, home protection.
        To put it bluntly, we have to know more. Information is King and will be highly valuable later on. I copy the good posts and file them accordingly to subject matter and have a good library at my fingertips. I hope that when I die, the years of information collected is not thrown in the trash.
        I, like yourself, gage other peoples preparedness by what they post. Even if you consider OPSEC, we are not even close to being ready for any engagement. As far as subjects that we should be learning we will never find them here at SHTF, because of liability. Mac has pushed it to the limits as to what he has already published.
        One thing for sure I have had more religious instruction here than I ever had in eight years of catholic school. On a more expanded base of course to include many religions. Better to know what drives our enemies than to underestimate them. How Religion, politics, finance and Big Business interact with each other.
        We do ourselves a great disservice by sniping at each other on simple matters. We do have bigger fish to fry with limited time left. I do at times get frustrated when the thread is hijacked and wonder what subject we are talking about. Then to have three conversations going between a half a dozen threads wears me out, clicking here and there. Time zones are a bitch when you try to talk to those from Down Under when your on the east coast. Still the occasional interjection of an informative article is not that disruptive. Those who have been here awhile do get bored with repetitive issues but it is that one point that can change everything and make the difference. I include the Trolls too. Except the vile bastards.
        It is, what it is. We just have to make the best of it. ;0)

      141. This reads like a psy-op to me. The government has a lt. colonel write and publish an inflammatory article about taking guns. it sounds like they are trying to incite a riot…Like the Zimmerman case, where there were supposed be riots in the street that did not happen. This is a psy-op to try and scare you into rioting or attacking them. The government is near collapse, it’s too top heavy to survive. Let them come falling down on their own and then, we can try and hang this dude for treason later. Don’t so anything to give them a reason to open fire, they are provoking you!

        • Nah. Bateman is a shill and has been for decades. If you look him up he is and always has been a loud mouth piece of crap looking for attention. He says crap all the time to inflame people. Just ignore that troll Bateman. I DO think the ObaMao Regime is gearing up to attack Americans. Not much doubt there. Just look at the infrastructure of the DHS and TSA and militarization of the police across the country. 1.6 billion rounds of ammo….2700 MRAP vehicles dispersed all over the country, FEMA camps everywhere, the government built bunkers all over the country for themselves and their families, the government has stored up ten years or more of food in bunkers for themselves. Is something going to happen? I think so! ObaMao is going to do something very deadly to this country very soon. Count on it.

      142. I had two thoughts immediately after reading this.
        1. This guys is a nobody in the scope of military. He has no authority in the grand scheme of where orders are originating. So maybe he is trying to sell books.
        2. This is nothing more than gov data mining. Send something out there to see who needs to be watched a bit closer.

        I don’t know anything about this guy and really will not change anything in my life because of something some shitbird says. I have friends in all branches and there are some really good guys in all branches and some guys like this idiot in every branch.
        What gives me a lot of hope is that the local sheriffs dept has many members that I know are oath keepers and of my friends still in the military they are at places where they can get a feel of how the winds are blowing and they are as awake as us here on this board.
        The one thing I am not sure about and has been written about countless times is inside cities. If/when rioting and lawless behavior starts they will contain those areas and I have noticed that there is a very different mentality in law enforcement within city limits from out in the country.
        Maine prepper on youtube has a lot to say about handling the military during crisis times. He is former SF and has some knowledge on this subject.
        There are scenarios where I can see the military actively engaging small pockets of citizens but I believe that it will be short lived and be a result of some very altered intelligence given down the chain of command. But I believe that it will be very short lived before all soldiers realize they are being used.

      143. Barn Cat…

        You said: Those who hate the Jews do Satan’s work and couldn’t possibly be saved.

        Q1: So who can be blamed for killing Palestinian Women and Children and demolishing
        their homes. SATAN?

        You said: (1 John 3:15 NIV) Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know
        that no murderer has eternal life in him.

        Q2: So the head of Goldman Sachs, and other Zionist owned/operated criminal
        investment banks who have raped the mankind are suppose to be my brothers and if
        I call them CRIMINALS, I won’t have eternal life and I am a murderer?

      144. Bateman was a colonel in the New York Guard which is a state volunteer force. He was never a “real” soldier or officer.

        There is a real Col. Robert Bateman.

      145. this is some bold text.

        this is some text text.

        this isRED.

      146. He is no different from a common street gang punk. The problem is, he can be sent anywhere… even your own neighborhood. He needs to be put on a watch list and have his picture posted. He has just threatened you and your family with deadly force. He is a genuine terrorist-assassin. The trigger for his homicidal rampage will be martial law. Remember his face and his address.

      147. XHTML

      148. Y’know, you guys really piss me off sometimes. It’s not often I feel pushed to comment on here – although I read the articles and comments every day. Here you are, faced with a person who has sworn to uphold and protect your constitution blatently saying that he wants to override your constitution and commit acts of treason and all you do is bitch about it on the internet. I am not American, but I have a number of American (not amerikan) friends and I know they are heartily ashamed of their own country, because of traitors like this Lt. Col. When is one of you going to DO something about it??? Being British (and knowing how to circumvent my “masters”) I understand that it is more dificult for you guys(and I sympathise) but surely the time has come for someone to take action??? (Preferably legal…..)

        Not so Newbie


      150. I just wish that this traitor, Bateman, would try to take my weapons himself!

      151. You sanctimonious fools! Who is suppose to save us Barn Cat Jesus! What a maroon. “Those who hate the Jews do Satan’s work” Too Funny you really believe that shit don’t you. The Zionist are the core of Evil that haunts this Earth. You better be thankful there isn’t a god to smite you down. You Jewish Buffoon.

      152. This son-of-a-bitch needs to be put down like a rabid dog.
        I hope the people under him know what to do when the time comes.
        Jury nullification, Friendly Fire… there is a time and place for everything.

      153. MAC,

        We need more articles on geoengineering and “chemtrails”

        There are many theories on this:
        Depopulation…as they cannot take care of all the boomers as they age.
        Cause health issues then sell the cure or treatment.
        War reasons.
        Kill off the “Useless eaters”…why keep them around once they are old and cannot work.
        We are in the “Galactic dark rift” and we need to shield the planet.
        Population stabalization….partnered with Codex Alementarious sp? Then release engineered flus..and people will drop like flies.


      154. the “oath of enlistment” is a formality, you never hear anyone nowadays even talk about it as if it were seriously to be heeded.

      155. @barncat

      156. This site has been taken over by a bunch of psychopathic religions zealots spouting off a bunch of useless bullshit. Nobody gives a crap about whether you think Jesus was a jew or not. Go out and fart in a windstorm, it’ll be more productive.

      157. Make NO mistake – this asshole wants the People disarmed so that he can do his evil, there is no other reason to want the People disarmed. He has NO FUKKING business in the uniform of the US military, he is not an American he is a shameful disgrace to this country.

      158. I didn’t even know about the potential egg shortage Australia may have:

        On a dfferent topic, been eating a lot of black currants lately to help with back pain as I’m trying to take less pain killer. I think it is helping some.
        Months ago we had no garden at all- and even though we’re in the tiniest space we now have got a little food production front and back happening of all sorts.
        I was inspired by ‘Hershel’ a couple of months back to order 2 elder berry cuttings off ebay. One died the other is kicking on strong.
        Grow food and stack milk.


      159. William O. Dougals, Justice of the US Supreme Court once said, “As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air however slight lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.”

      160. THE DONALD ON AMERICA… Yeah…we’re fucked.

        Shit..let it all collapse.
        Default on China.
        Tell the Federal Reserve to go fuck themselves.
        Let the dollar crash.
        Let everyone default on everything.
        Then….make is so nobody will lend us money.


        We will create our own money.
        Toss out the money changers and create our own currency.

        Tax any imports.
        Nationalize any foreign owned assets.

        Fuck off China!
        Thanks for being our slaves making all that plastic shit.
        Love all the electronics. Nice job slaves!

        Now…enjoy our shitty paper currency.
        SUCKERS. HA HA

      161. BI: Watch for the 7.0+ in Vanuatu, something big on SoCal, then the Caribbean with land rising; before Mt Etna. This could be a year or two, or more, but it starts in Vanuatu with the 7.0+. And while WE have a string of dominoes to watch for, I have no time line between events.

        Cayce spoke of land rising in the Carribean and off the SE Coast. he also said that the really big events on the West and East Coasts would follow the eruption of Etna within 90 days. As Etna is and has been erupting for some time, I think he meant a really big Mt St Helens kind of eruption. So We ain’t seen nothing yet there.

        He also said that the time between the East and West Coast events would be about 30 days. DHS is aware of these predictions, actual physical Earth changes including the Pole Shift, and I believe that they are:

        !. preparing for these events as they become more likely as WE have seen;

        2. preparing to implement martial law and other legislation to address the civil unrest that these events will trigger,including gun confiscation;

        3. looking to use the Changes as an excuse to usher in the North American Union under UN auspices and dissolve the USA in the aftermath of the Chaos, brought on by these intense physical Earth Changes.

        This is why it is imperative for US to engage OUR employees now, roll back the erosion of OUR rights, and extend the Liberty Movement. Keep prepping. 🙂

      162. The comments section at Esquire Magazine is on fire. There are some NCOs castigating this Lt. Col. Bateman.

        At any rate, Mr. Lt. Col. Bateman, after reading your article, I went to a local gun show this weekend, and bought another case of ammo. Thank you for the heads up…you fascist prick.

        Scuze me, while I make another drink, and toast the US Constitution.

      163. @BI,

        Hello friend. I was curious of your take on the 4.5 in Oklahoma? I apologize if you have already commented on it.

        Thank you and God Bless for all the work you do for this community.


        • @ Norse Prepper. The earthquakes that are shallow in Oklahoma and Arkansas, not near the New Madrid, are mostly from the fracking that goes on with natural gas. Some of these have even reached mid 5 range. Usually when you see such a shallow earthquake in this area it is from fracking. Some of the hot springs in the area also produces harmonic earthquakes that are also shallow. Natural gas is very important to this country and many say that these earthquakes are nature’s way of saying stop. And long as the earthquakes don’t reach above that 5 range, the benefits should outweigh the earthquakes from the fracking.

          This however could be causing a bit more stress on the New Madrid. Until you start to see more severe activity on the Mid Atlantic Ridge between about 14 to 20 degrees north or down on the eastern Caribbean plate, the New Madrid should remain just in the stage of being active rather than imminent and ready to go. There is a connection between the San Andreas and the New Madrid, and if the San Andreas broke like in 1812 around the same spot, the New Madrid could very soon follow. In 1857 the San Andreas broke and the New Madrid evidentally didn’t have the energy to break again. This time the people around the New Madrid might not be so lucky. By the way I hope you and yours are having a nice holiday season. I tell people sometimes that this could be the last one spent in “normal times” and to really enjoy it while they can.

          • Thanks BI! I always appreciate your time and knowledge. I too have been thinking a lot to enjoy the normalcy.

            Additionally, you recently mentioned the bitter cold and to prepare for it. I highly agree. Up north it has been -26 below with wind chills of -40. It would take only minutes of exposure at those temps to expire.

            God bless,

      164. To bad that everyone on this site isn’t known personally by atleast one other person. Where is Braveheart and now that I think about it where is Smokin Okie, haven’t heard from him for some time. Some people you just miss. Trekker Out.

        • Mountain Trekker

          Well count me in Trekker..communicate with Burt, Daisy and Manos on a daily/weekly basis..although we’re continents apart..

          Braveheart must be on “holiday”..or laying low.

          Okie’s probably dealing with the winter storms..


          • How is Manos?

            • Hey, wrong — thought maybe you went the way of Manos,

              or you got lost in a sea of comments……

              Nice day in the hood, eh, got 10 degrees here

        • MT
          If Braveheart is in Atlanta and Smokie out in the Midwest, weather could be the cause of their absence.
          Smokie could have made another run with his truck and got caught up.

          Hard to get people to get together but I did get to meet Mike.
          Hey Mike, the roads are fixed. No deep water holes.;0)
          Mike is a No Bullshit prepper.

      165. We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers.

        That’s possible. But if it comes to that, I’ll do my best to see to it that there some other “cold dead fingers” at the scene besides mine.

      166. Mac.

        Need a new article.

      167. Is it more important to keep OPSEC or try to organize into a fighting group?

        I have been trying to get people together for years. Telling them to prepare. My observations is the mentality of having a gallon of water, flashlight and a few cans of beans and weenies and they are ready. The reality of it all is that most will only last about thirty days without confrontation and minutes in a firefight. Do you want to go against a better equipped
        foe with a bunch of Yahoo’s you met for the first time? I know I do not want to have people asking what to do in the middle of a fight. Wondering if he or she can give aid if you are injured or will they leave you there and run.
        Do I think all is lost?
        No! but I do think many will die unnecessarily because they failed to do the things needed to be done. It will be a forced learning curve.

      168. So another NWO crony publicly states his view on gun control & whips gun owners into a frothing frenzy. Haven’t we heard this before? WAKE UP PEOPLE – they’re trying to incite us to violence. Let’s face it: gun confiscation on a mass scale will not likely happen unless some type of disaster hits & causes utter chaos & confusion. Stay vigilant & be aware that a false flag event could happen in the near future. Information about our TRUE history is slowly but surely coming to light & TPTB are clearly getting desperate.

        As to the continuing debate on Jews/Zionists: my eyes were opened after intensive research into 9-11 & the evidence is clear that the Israelis/Mossad fingerprints are all over it. Even Carl Cameron, a mainstream news reporter did a segment on Fox News which you can still find online about Israeli espionage in the US. Way too many facts, documentation to post here about Zionism but just a small amount of research & you’ll find that the Zionist tentacles have locked into almost every aspect of our society. For all you Christian Jewish apologists I’ll leave you with a link to a t-shirt known to be worn by Israeli military:

        Gods chosen people?

        • Just in case some of you did not bother to look up the link JC75 posted it shows the back of a T-shirt with a shooter honed in on a PREGNANT WOMAN’s STOMACH with a caption that reads “ONE SHOT, TWO KILLS!

          There is a lot of information given to shtf readers through LINKS….worth your time to take a looksee.

      169. All over the country mini SHTF events from the weather are making life very difficult to millions of those not prepered. To the 99% non-preppers these are just imaginary and not really happening.

        Preppers/Survivalists AGAIN have the last laugh :), as will be in the future.

        • We are in our third day of bad weather. ice & 8 inches of snow very cold temps. We are thankfull the electric is still on here. We have generators but fuel to run them is much more costly than the coop,s juice. Lots of power outages in places to the south and east of her. Any way we haven even started any of our vehicles since Thursday. we are comfortable and relaxed due to being prepared. Im of the opinion the Cascadia and calif quakes will happen first then the New Madrid. I suspect after we experience a big quake on the new Madrid the mega corporations commercial electric power will never again be available during the rest of my lifetime. Its very likely the only way to get east of the Mississippi river will be by boat across a 100 miles of swamp. Any way Im spending these inclement days out in the shop building a wood gassafier to run a 4 cycle gas engine. Im installing it on a farm tractor. it think a wood burning farm tractor will be much more versatile & useful than a passenger vehicle.

      170. I posted 3 comments yesterday to the current main article. Apparently the moderators thought they were inappropriate since they did not become part of the postings. Maybe they were slightly vitriolic but I get so tired of the bible thumping.

        Do you commenter’s have to cut and paste whole chapters of the bible? Do you really think anyone is going read all that. I know you are passionate about your believes, that’s fine but stay on topic. I was off topic but so were the ones I was commenting about.

        I use to believe in God, the bible and Jesus. I use to believe the government also. What is wrong with a dissenting secular view? Isn’t this site a dissenting view versus the MSM?

        Why can we not get by thinking we are somehow exceptional to the rest of the world? Have you ever taken the time to read the Upanishads or the Tao Te Ching?

        Who appointed the Jews or the Christians “the chosen ones”; they did that’s who. A lot like our government does; is it not? It’s all about control. Whether it be the Roman Empire, the Catholic Church or the U.S. Government it’s all about control.

        We still have the freedom to choose what to think. Though that ability has been and is under attack at every front. Are you so elitist to believe that Jesus is the only way? If so keep it to yourself and your fellow believers.
        I believe the topic was gun control and the 2nd Amendment. Didn’t Jesus say “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s?”

        Fred Jones Ex-believer

      171. To all! Here is some new information i came across today that i have never seen before? Go to If you dare!


        • I want my tinfoil hat now please!

      172. Braveheart and Smokin Okie where are you ??

      173. Thought you might enjoy this

        Putin Quote

        This has a ring of truth… Just consider it a “funny”

        Vladimir Putin allegedly said off the record:

        “Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.
        The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board and
        then struts around like it won the game.”


        By Derry Brownfield

        While looking through an old issue of Pastor Butch Pugh’s MINUTEMAN NEWS (, I ran across a six page article explaining how to “destroy a nation.” The author left no signature so I cannot give credit that is due for this exceptionally great piece. Since space in the Chronicle is limited, I picked the most important aspects to share with you.
        The article begins with, “If I were given the power to take down a nation, how would I do it?”
        Control the nation’s monetary system. Tax the population, incurring massive debt. Institute various handouts. Kill the unions that demand livable wages, medical benefits and pensions. Close down local industries, and ship them overseas, if workers balk at lower wages… Shut down mills, plants and shops and send them to foreign lands where labor costs are mere pennies. Import foreign workers for one third of American wages.
        Move major decision making to the executive branch, using Presidential Directives and Executive Orders. Pit American workers against immigrants to keep the focus off the various trade agreements; the more hatred and chaos, the better. The people must never see these issues as pertaining to class, but rather intolerance, racism and bigotry.
        Limit any real choices in voting, keeping the field limited to a two party system, where only the wealthy need apply. Both parties will be given scripted talking points so they don’t address the real issues facing Americans. Keep up the pretense of a representative democracy.
        Set up a dysfunctional Department of Education to dictate to the states insane mandates, regulations and policies to dumb down the future generation. A dumb population is an easily controlled population. Mental illness centers will become a major part of education. Saturate the land with drugs till the land is awash with mind numbing, brain damaging chemicals. Name peace officers “law enforcers” and gradually militarize them. Citizens should FEAR the police, not welcome their presence.
        Allow the HMOs, Pharmaceuticals and Insurance companies to destroy what was once an affordable medical system. The focus will be on profits with exotic drugs being offered in lieu of preventive medicine. Make retirement an impossibility for seniors and those with fixed incomes or pensions. Encourage them to embrace “death with dignity.”
        Institute perpetual war, borrowing billions for destruction, while filling the coffers of corporate hucksters; destroy the known and familiar by scattering the security of small town America with concrete box stores, sprawl malls, fast food and appointed committees.
        Waco, Ruby Ridge, school shootings, road blocks, identity theft, color coded fear days, security cameras and drug sniffing dogs will be used to cause confusion, resulting in more laws and violating the rights of a once carefree population. Limit or totally prevent information, rational discourse and debate on all sides of an issue. Corporate control of the media is a must if citizens are taught what to think – not how to think.

        Trade agreements will create massive unemployment, bankrupt farms, imported food, foreclosures and homelessness.
        Give away lands, roads, schools, utilities, bridges, rivers and water systems to foreign investors. Use nature preserves, parks, heritage sites, biospheres and buffer zones as collateral for trillions in debt. Keep the multitudes distracted with ball games, theme parks, shopping malls, expensive automobiles, environmental activism, OJ, Paris Hilton, pit bulls and Rosie O’Donnell. All authority and decision making should be in the hands of corporate interests.
        All this I would do if I were to destroy a nation and no one would have a clue as to the final objective. The few who do object will be labeled “conspirators, crazies, fringe, extremists, communists, un-American and traitors.” Nobody wants to be labeled “other;” not in group think, that would make that person “the turd in the punchbowl!”

        • WOw Old Vet — that guy really

          knows what he is talking about.

      175. For every environment, there are those who thrive in it. People who cannot or unwilling to protect themselves creates a society of apathy rather than sympathy and empathy, and this is the environment that psychopaths, sociopaths, rapists, and other control freaks thrive.

        There was a time in US history that many of these issues were greatly marginal, and the core reasons were:
        1). Self-Defense through arms.
        2). Strong family ties.
        3). Moral and principle integrity

        Well, I’d say the last nut is Self-Defense. So goes the Second Amendment so goes the Bill of Rights.

      176. Here is the reality to the issue. Commissioned officers of any branch of service are all cutthroat when it comes to advancing their career. They will sell their soul to advance. I have meet very few that really care about the troops. They will use anybody, means and tactic to advance their rank and when done they will discard those they have used to get there. Just a fact of life in the military.
        All branches are equally as bad when it comes to their commissioned officers. Even worse are the civilian technicians who are harder to replace due to the wonderful union called AFGE. Yes there are plenty of civilians who work for the military and they are far worse than the officers and almost impossible to dispose of.
        One thing that most people don’t know is that the officer ranks will essentially write their own evaluation. They advance their career by building fluff into their evaluations. They ensure they get the awards when they remotely meet the intent while neglecting those whom have served in very dangerous and valorous acts. Ever wonder why we are having dwindling numbers of Medal of Honor recipients? Greed and jealousy. Look at COS Dempsey. Note that he is wearing a CAB. This award is for coming under direct fire from the enemy. So somewhere in his career a mortar landed somewhere in the vicinity of a country he was stationed in and because it meet the intent he was awarded it. I personally know of an Adjutant General of a state that wears one of these awards. He was a JAG O-6 in Iraq. Now please tell me when JAG officers are on front lines. I somewhat questioned him about this on one occasion and he changed the subject.
        So to all of you posting here, get real and understand. This is how the military works. Be sure and ask the next Army guy or gal you see with a right shoulder patch on as to how they earned it. Bet you will only find about 10% really earned it through real action. The other 90% can tell real whoppers.

      177. Experiencing a little of life when shtf. Heat pump went out during the coldest weather of last 20 years. Food storage under house with no heat but furnace kept it around 45 degrees.Keeping light bulb on so it won’t freeze now but what if there were no electricity would have to move it all into my family room where we have a wood stove that keeps that area about 60 degrees in this weather which was 10 F last night and about 25 F in the daytime. Keeping the faucets at a drip to keep the pipes from freezing. Feeding the fireplace in living room keeps it at about 55 degrees. Bathrooms are so cold. We have a lot of firewood but are using so much of it now. We are not suffering but if there were no electricity it would not be pretty. We do run a propane space heater for about 10 minutes at a time to help with the cold. I hope I don’t experience a real shtf event as it would be so hard.

      178. I’m a longtime lurker and will continue to be, but this is one of the few times I have to chime in. The Republic is dying because its people turned its back on the principles that made it great as traitors go unpunished and people are obsessed with their football, partying, junk food, cheap trinkets, phones, Xboxes, Black Fridays, and the Kardashians. The seditious traitors like Bateman (or Bait-man, whichever they prefer), the useful idiots, dual citizens, Bolsheviks, and foreigners will absolutely never stop at trying to take the guns. They won’t listen to reason or logic but they are patient and the only thing they might understand is how all tyrants are ultimately dealt with. Guns are here to stay and the genie can’t be put back in the bottle because there’s just too many. Even if guns are banned there are too many bitter clingers and innovators who are going to go back to gunsmithing by hand or printing it out of a 3D printer or using new technology to make one, not to mention the black market will become very lucrative. Bateman can wait all he wants, many patriots will outlive him and there’s nothing they can do to stop the transfer of firearms before they die or find out where they went if legal processes didn’t happen. I doubt those nearing the end of their lives would care about repercussions anyway. As for gun buybacks, we all know how successful the last one was after Newtown. A lot of the few thousands came with throwaways or nonworking ones, and it was hijacked as crowds mobbed them offering cash and turned it into a gun sale. Though with the worsening economic condition, it is possible they might try a guns-for-food program if it gets really bad in the future. If they try force, they won’t be able to muster enough men willing to do the job and those willing to fight are going to fight. Being a black uniformed stormtrooper or being closely associated with him suddenly just got a lot more hazardous once raids start. Prying from cold dead fingers goes both ways, and an automatic M4 or M16 will be quite a trophy. Because Americans have become so complacent and lazy, I have a feeling it’s going to take a violation of something very dear to their hearts or the nation plunged into crisis that they’re willing to take up arms. Nevertheless, there is a shadow arms race going on between the people and government that few are willing to admit. This is a country getting ready to go to war.

        But as the wise Obi-Wan Kenobi once said, there are alternatives to fighting. If only the 3D printer was as cheap and ubiquitous as a desktop printer, then all our problems would be solved. Until that happens, a more realistic solution. Unregistered firearms. The great thing about an 80% frame is that they’re untraceable with absolutely no serial number, record, or registeration. Thus, no unwanted entanglements. If you build AR15s or AK47s or 1911s, cache them at different secret locations (be creative) with other supplies and a minimum of 300 rounds each for rifles and 100 rounds minimum for pistols in case your location is compromised. You can stash less or more ammo, the 300/100 is a recommendation to keep it as lightweight and mobile as possible and to avoid attention. Everything must be sealed against moisture and humidity for long term storage. For instance out of three caches one cache could be buried under the floorboards of your cabin in the mountains, another at a self storage locker close by and minutes away, and one cache within the walls of your house. When you need it, roll on those caches and go pick them up. Just like the National Guard has armories and depots everywhere. Any confiscation attempt happens, wait and see or if unavoidable, give them what they want and send them on their way-politely-and play stupid. As outrageous this may sound to some of you-if they have you by surprise, cornered, outnumbered, and outgunned or if there’s a letter threatening legal consequences then there’s no sense in lighting up and getting yourself killed. It’s better to live to fight another day, and we need all the patriots we can get. Snakes are vicious when treaded on, but foxes are sly.

        -White Fox

        • Welcome…all good advice there! 🙂

      179. Then by God he will have to take my rifle from my cold dead hands……. Not before I take his first

      180. Everyone lives somewhere….even traitorous Lt. Colonels.

        BTW: Who the hell is the “we” he keeps referring to in his insipid, arrogant article?

      181. I don’t care how much food, ammo, guns, water, Kevlar, etc, etc, etc you stockpile.
        I don’t care if you live in the remotest stretch of the wilderness.
        I don’t care if you’re a better shot than Dirty Harry.
        I don’t care if you have a Death Ray.

        If you have the attitude that you will never, ever cooperate with a particular race of people –
        if you think an entire race of people is “to blame” –
        If you think n entire race of people is against you –
        or if you think a race of people is inferior to you –

        You’ll be among the first to go, because survival is about – first and foremost – cooperation.
        Bad attitudes are a weakness. Uncooperative loners will die off rapidly.
        Don’t like it? Too bad. Truth is truth.

      182. “…if you cannot bring down a defenseless deer in under five rounds, then you have no fking reason to be holding a killing tool in the first place.”

        The Second Amendment has nothing to do with deer hunting. The Second Amendment serves to guarantee all the rest and to protect American citizens from tyrannical morons like you.

      183. As a combat veteran he and any dumbass willing to follow his orders are going to be put down for the dogs they are…and I won’t be alone.

      184. Has anyone here gone to “Esquire” and actually read Bateman’s column? I have. I found it hillarious. The V.P. candidate Pierce was even funnier. This is parody – this is satire. This is like Limbaugh being absurd in the face of absurdity. The readers here flying off the handle, beating their chests and making faceless threats is saddening. It’s akin to the leftists wailing and gnashing their teeth when Obama leaves Reggie’s and has forgotten to zip his pants again. Lighten up. Smile.

      185. Add him to the list of traitors to be arrested when the revolution begins. He has a lot of “prying” to do. These lunatics are breeding like cockroaches.

      186. Army Officer Lt. Col. Bateman Wants You Disarmed: “We Will Pry Your Gun from Your Cold, Dead Fingers”

        Not if we take people like you out first Bateman, then you won’t be doing shit…

        I’ll be glad to be the executioner at this guys public hanging… I will do it for free. Hell I will pay to do it!

      187. I would like to know if he was a combat arms officer.
        As a retired combat arms officer (Infantry and Special Forces) I reject his premises as well as his ideas on how to control firearms. If he was a combat arms officer he was probably never in combat and did something else while others were in combat units. Most likely he was something in the way of combat support or combat service support. But, in any respect he was probably an Army reject. He is a self-promoting idiot that is into his 15 minutes of fame he recieves in the MSM for his position.

      188. P’d off Granny, the entire NT was written by Jews. For the first 300 years of church history 80% of Christians were Jew of the diaspora! Jesus was a Jew who came to the Jews during the OT times. NT times did not start until Pentecost, a Jewish feast day. This blog is filled with Biblicaly ignorant evil thugs and idiot, quasi-nazi morons. I don’t see any difference between many here and leftist hating fools who are ruining this nation. I will never come to this site again after I post this
        , and I will warn others of the demonic and brutal hate being spread here, and I have a lot of friends. To those of you who don’t agree with those here who are haters of Israel and God’s people the Jews (even though the Jews largely still don’t know their Messiah) I would encourage you to leave in protest as well.

        Zec 1:15
        And I am very sore displeased with the heathen that are at ease: for I was but a little displeased, and they helped forward the affliction.

        This scripture applies to you who have twisted God’s word to force your hate for the Jewish people and His established nation of Israel, always siding with the lies of t he Muslims in Gaza and elsewhere (though the jews have been gathered in unbelief in their land, all according to Bible prophecy). God is only a little angry with His people, whom He will judge then redeem a remnant from in the end, but you who hate His people will be destroyed according to the everlasting curse of those who curse His people, as promised to Abraham, even before the Law of Moses was given. You will not be able to escape the terrors that are coming on the whole world. We are only just seeing things reallyo ramp up.

        The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

        Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

        And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. Isa 24:5, 6 & 18

        You who twist God’s word to your own meaning can run, but you can’t hide from God’s wrath. Prep all you like, but you will not escape the curse of God that you bring to yourself.

        • Simplicity:

          God is a “little” angry at his people? When I read Revelation God is a lot angry at his people. And simplicity, he is so angry with the people who spell their g-d and refuse to acknowledge Jesus that he says he has a “lake of fire” in store for them.

          You are a fox in the henhouse, simplicity.

      189. I’m still waiting to see the Scripture quoted which states that the Church will replace Israel in the New Testament Age.
        Because it ain’t there.

      190. I’m still waiting to see the Scripture quoted which states that the Church will replace Israel in the New Testament Age.

        Because it ain’t there.

        • SILVER SAX: HERE FOOL! PS: Now You Show Us where it states “Bless the jews” in ANY bible verse like you fools keep stateing is Gods command.

          Galatians 3:29. Read it for yourself:

          “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”(This means The “CHURCH of Christ” you Foolish stuborn idiots)

          Revelation 21:7 promises, “He that overcometh shall inherit all things.”


          In 2001, Dr. Ariella Oppenheim, of Hebrew University, a biologist, published the first extensive study of DNA and the origin of the Jews. Her research found that virtually all the Jews came from Khazar blood. Not only that but Oppenheim discovered that the Palestinians—the very people whom the Jews had been persecuting and ejecting from Israel’s land since 1948—had more Israelite blood than did the Jews. In sum, the vast majority of the Jews were not Jews; some of the Palestinians were. Some of the Palestinians even had a DNA chromosome which established that they were “Cohens”—workers at the ancient Temple and synagogues of the Jews.

          The Definitive DNA Study
          Now comes the ultimate, definitive DNA study, by Dr. Eran Elhaik and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. Entitled, The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses, and published by the Oxford Journal on behalf of the Society for Molecular Biology and Evolution, the study confirms Oppenheim’s research and the many scholarly books.

          Dr. Elhaik and the prestigious Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine conclude in their report: “The Khazarian Hypothesis suggests that Eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, an amalgam of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries CE and Converted to Judaism in the eighth century…Following the collapse of their empire, the Judeo-Khazars fled to Eastern Europe. The rise of European Jewry is therefore explained by the contribution of the Judeo-Khazars.”

          Who Can Argue With DNA Science? (READ That Again! The Khazar Fake jew Converted to Talmudic judaisim in the 8th century! aprox in 750-AD!!! NO dna ties to True 12 tribed israelites! Do You Get it Yet?)

          So DNA science has proven that the findings of many historians and anthropologists is correct. The “Jews” of Israel are not Abraham’s descendants but, instead, come from the subjects of King Bulan of Khazaria.

          The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct.

          What exactly is the “Khazarian Hypothesis?” Simply stated, it holds that the Jewry genome is a mosaic of ancestries which rise primarily out of the Khazars.

          Jews are Khazars, not Israelites.

          The “Jews” of America, Europe, and Israel are descendants not of Father Abraham but of King Bulan and the people of ancient Khazaria. Khazaria was an amalgam of Turkic clans who once lived in the Caucasus (Southern Russia) in the early centuries CE. These Turkic peoples were pagans who converted to Judaism in the eighth century. As converts, they called themselves “Jews,” but none of their blood comes from Israel.

          Later, the “Jews” (Khazars) emigrated, settling in Russia, Hungary, Poland, Germany, and elsewhere in Europe. As “Jews,” the Khazars then left the European nations in 1948 and settled the fledgling, new nation of Israel.

          The people of Israel are not the seed, nor the ancestors, of Abraham. They call themselves “Jews,” but in fact, DNA science shows them to be Khazars. They say they are “Jew,” but they are not.(SEE: REV 2:9&3:9)

          “There are no blood or family connections among the Jews,” said Dr. Elhaik in an interview with Haaretz, Israel’s daily newspaper. “The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. Their genome is largely Khazar.”

          Thus, when Prime Minister Netanyahu says, “God gave this land to our Israelite forefathers,” he is absolutely wrong. There are no Israelite forefathers of today’s “Jews.” When today’s “Jews” say they should possess the land because they are Israelites and are the seed of Abraham, they are mistaken.

          The “Jews” are in Israel for one reason and one reason only: Because the United States, in 1948, recognized the nation of “Israel” and has since funded and protected it. God’s Word has nothing to do with it.

          God’s Word, the Holy Bible, prophesied that in the last days imposters would erroneously and falsely claim to be “Jews.” These imposters would, the Bible told us, persecute their enemies and especially the Christians. But God would have his revenge:

          I ask my evangelical Christian friends: What will you do now? Will you heed what God said, in Revelation 2 and 3, about “them which say they are Jews and are not?” Will you accept modern DNA science as legitimate and valuable in proving the truth of God’s Word?

          Or will you, dear Christian friend, walk right on by, dismissing what both God and science have informed you?

          God said that the seed of Abraham would inherit the land. Therefore, we must—absolutely must—in light of the DNA evidence, ask ourselves: Where, and who are the seed of Abraham?

          We know that Netanyahu and the people who now inhabit Israel have no claim to the land. They are interlopers, false pretenders. But there is a true and legitimate Chosen People of God. In fact, the scriptures had it right all along. The answer is found in Galatians 3:29. Read it for yourself:

          “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”

          So, if you belong to Jesus our Lord, you are “Abraham’s seed,” regardless of your physical race. You are overcomers, and Revelation 21:7 promises, “He that overcometh shall inherit all things.” This is the great secret that every true Christian knows.

          God is not a racist. The Great Commission extends to every race and ethnicity. We who love Jesus are His Chosen People, and we have the promise first given to Abraham way back in Genesis

          NOTE: DNA DR.& Scientists named above that Wrote of Their DNA PROOF Findings are BOTH Jews….

          • Them guys; Thanks for clearing that up! i had asked that question awhile back about the bloodline, but you must have missed it ? It was easy enough to find by research. I ahd also listened to Tex Marrs Who had also stated that their is actually more of the actual bloodline of the Khazars in Palestine than in Israel. Do you agree? maybe its not so much the bloodline that is inherently evil but the brainwashed belief system of the Talmudic teachings ?
            I ve got to hand it to you for knowing the truth and getting it out there,as i was always was taught never argue politics or religion. ” None so blind as they who cannot see”.
            I have stopped trying to talk people into prepping for that same reason. Maybe the old school of hard knocks applies here? Until those evil jews have their boot in your ear you will never “believe” by then it will be too late!!!
            Thanks for your well researched information and the truth! It sure has cleared some beliefs up in my mind!!


            • THINKER: RE Read that Post Info I posted on DNA issues etc…It states in there that there are folks IN Palestine Today, and ever since Jesus walked the earth they been there, who Have REAL DNA from Ancient Israelites tribes….I assume many or most are the current Christian Population of Palestine we Never hear spoken of by MSM like FOX and Hannity et al…

              If I recall right over 400,000 Christians are still IN Palestine land, and same as muslims there are being constantly harrased and killed off BY Israel jews and mossad/israeli military opps.

              Even jew israel citizens are armed to the teeth in israel. USA Taxpayers Fund them guns while usa jew polititions and hollywood jews etc etc keep trying to Disarm Us “goyim” whiteys eh…Funny all them usa Rabid antigun jews and lib dems Never whine or cry about all them jew owned guns in israel huh?

              Glad to see You too wide awake and jewiszed up!

              READ this History of Jewish-Communisim in Russia 1918 where it all began etc…Has Khazar info/Maps of older european regions/Photos of jew kommie bosses/info on usa-unions are jew kommie run/hollywood jew info/and alot of usa jewish SPIES info and Bios etc!…Great info site for christian and bible verses etc…

              www dot biblestudysite dot com/bcomm dot htm

              • Thanks TG.for the info.You know since i have been watching the evil put it grips on us there is not a day goes by that i don’t see some enterprise they don’t have their tentacles in telecommunications
                ,Tv Media ,hollywierd, porn industry,the educational system,government,medical pharma, Science,matter of fact its harder to find things they’re not involved in. last night even seen an article about the satanists trying to get a statue up at the Capitol in Oklahoma next to the Ten Commandment!
                The time grows near!
                May God Bless You and Yours!
                And Keep up the Good Fight!

      191. My only comment is Molon Labe Colonel.

      192. For all you gun-totin’morons shooting your mouths off is about all the shooting you’ll be doing as you fondle your well oiled, overloaded weapon.

        These thugs will come by night to round up the really worrisome weapons.

        You may have only 4m soldiers but what about all the brainwashed police in every town and county. We’ve seen how the riot cops respond to the usual emergency. Remember Kent State and the nervous trigger fingers of the white knuckle National Guards. These were college kids they were shooting at, not armed except for maybe a placard or 2.

        And what about the mercenaries (blue helmets) brought into the country slyly waiting for the “GO” signal. This may be done at high noon in the movies but…. wake up! These guys will be playing for keeps and their time is after dark!

        • Billybones: I won’t argue the fact that many people are much more effective warriors behind a keyboard than they will be in a real life situation.
          But disarming americans will be a logistical nightmare regardless of who is attempting it. The only way they could work it is by having an amnesty period then making it a federal crime and relying on neighbors turning in neighbors. Even then it will be a slow daunting task in cities and almost an impossible task in the rural areas.
          Blue Helmets? I have worked with many of those (troops?)guys. My experience with the vast majority of them is that they are ill-equipped and ill-trained. I would put up most NG units against their active duty forces. Plus can you imagine them trying to maneuver in the swamps of LA or mountainous regions or northern WI at -30? I am not all that concerned about foreign troops here. I am not saying they wouldn’t try it but I don’t see them having success with foreign troops.

      193. It is my hope that these well planning and intelligent men are lying on the test. They know this is the only way to get this country back.
        And when the time comes and they are called on to murder their countrymen- they will turn the weapons in the appropriate direction and the fall of O’s regime will be sweet.
        Otherwise, the bloodshed will be tremendous and the souls of these traitors to humanism will never rest.

      194. Sorry just wanted to get this to 800 comments. Been watching it and has been bugging me. Think this is the highest number of comments? Correct me if I am wrong. Congrats Mac.

      195. Now that the Light Colonel has had is say, I say we try him for treason. He has verbally made a statement that goes against his oath and is unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, he has verbalized a threat and therefor should be called to account. If this was an enlisted man who said this his ass would have been handed to him. Do the same with this “Zero”.

      196. Don’t read too much into the ramblings of one constitutionally illiterate mid-level field grade officer. This is clearly one man’s opinion and doesn’t reflect official doctrine that I’ve ever seen or heard…and frankly contradicts the values of those field grade and flag officers I’ve known and served with.

        As to firing on U.S. Citizens…the oath hasn’t changed and remains “against all enemies, foreign and domestic” and it shouldn’t be any other way as the U.S. Military oath includes the obligation “to support and defend the Constitution” and there may from time to time be enemies of the Constitution that happen to be U.S. Citizens. This isn’t an argument for the Military exercising police powers but the military would be a proper response to an armed insurrection bent on replacing our Constitutionally protected freedoms, our Republic with a dictatorship or socialist workers paradise.

      197. Danton once said ‘Man has the rights he can defend’. Jefferson fashioned the 2nd Amendment to reflect that reality. If our military were to turn on the population, they would find many are ex-military and just as well or better trained than they are. If I had to die defending the Constitution against our own military, rest assured many Americans would. That is precisely the point of the 2nd Amendment. I would think that there would be discussions in the ranks and probably a lot of dead officers before those orders were carried out.

        Come and pry my fingers from the gun. I assure you I will have a large honor guard going with me to hell…

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