A Relentless Push Into Totalitarianism: Are the Trans-Pacific Partnership and Jade Helm Interrelated?

by | May 12, 2015 | Headline News | 334 comments

Do you LOVE America?



    Good Day to you, SHTF Readers, and I hope everyone is doing well.  This piece is an “open article,” so to speak.  I wish to present a few facts and resources as well as my thoughts on the matter, but it is you guys and gals who I wish to hear from.  There is a ton of information floating around out there and you are an intelligent and well-informed readership; undoubtedly you have read or heard of much of the information.

    In subsequent articles I am going to present an upcoming project that I am working on.  The project is so intricate and interrelated within all of its facets that it will be commented upon with only a few paragraphs and presented in outline form.  The subject has to do with the demise (labeled “fundamental transformation” by the regime) of the United States and all of the component parts of that demise.  This piece today examines the relationship between two of these facets that will have a major impact upon the dissolution of our country.

    I am emboldening this request because it is critical:  Please give your comments…the best of what you have experienced and learned…relating to this issue.

    This is the first exercise of its kind that I am undertaking regarding an article: the attempt to combine the thoughts and comments from our readership and collate them.  I respect you: all of you.  Ben Raines, Sixpack, Sgt. Dale, Acid Etch, Satori, Braveheart, Kula Farmer, Sharon, Durango Kid, Cat Herder, Talon 1776, Genius, FreeSlave…I could fill this page with the names.  All of you comment regularly and the profound ideas and thoughts are beautiful to see.  I think the world of all of you.  The diversity of experience and viewpoints is boundless; this is the toolkit we need to formulate plans and disseminate information.  Let this forum, I pray, be the venue, the hub for your insights to come together.  I humbly ask to facilitate this.

    The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is one of the most insidious (and ingenious) bypasses of our system that I have ever seen.  The TPP is also to be preceded by a Congressional vote to confer almost absolute authority on Obama under the Fast Track measure designed for the purpose (premise) of “trade facilitation.”  Steve Quayle and Alex Jones have both written and produced plenty of pieces on it.  There are two articles I wish to recommend for cross-referencing for you.  One is by Gun Owners of America, entitled “Secret Deal Could Contain a Myriad of Gun Restrictions, Ammo Bans!dated 5/8/15.  The second is found on Townhall.com, entitled “Ten Things You Need To Know About Fast Track,” by Michael Hammond, dated 4/27/2015.

    The first article deals with the attempt by Obama to insert his desired gun control regulations and possibly the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty within the TPP after Fast Track (the literal “handing” of all legislative powers of Congress into Obama’s hands) has been approved.  The second article is very comprehensive, and I will summarize its ten points:

    1. Fast Track transfers all authority vested in Congress to Obama and any successive President
    2. There is no recourse after Fast Track has been attained
    3. The President will have no limits to his authority
    4. Agreements that have not yet been formulated will be able to be entered into without Congressional approval
    5. The secret agreements (Fast Track and the TPP) would enable unlimited amounts of illegal aliens to obtain “amnesty” in the manner of similar EU undertakings
    6. The Republican leaders are in lock-step with Obama’s goals
    7. There is plenty of room to incorporate bans on firearms into the TPP or subsequent agreements
    8. Environmental and EPA measures and safeguards will be vehicles used to further gain control over the populace
    9. Obama will be making payouts to his entire base in Hollywood under the guises of “intellectual property protections.”
    10. The American people need to know all of these details, but the TPP is secret.

    Regarding Jade Helm, the military’s “exercises” to take place over the summer,

    Dave Hodges has outlined a great deal of information on it (his essays are the most comprehensive).  I strongly recommend reviewing the parameters in each individual essay for a good synopsis of background on it.  Prison Planet released a piece on 5/9/15 entitled “Master the Human Domain: The Domestic Plan Behind Jade Helm,” found on Prison Planet.com that defines human domain analytics.  This information is broken down into who you are, what you do, who you know, and context (demographics, politics, cultural norms, and religion).

    Infowars David Knight made a profound comment as such:

    “They’re building an infrastructure of tyranny.  There’s a legal infrastructure with things like the NDAA, there’s a technical infrastructure with things like the capability to do dragnet surveillance, and then of course there is going to be a military and law enforcement infrastructure, and those are merging.”

    I believe these two – the TPP and Jade Helm – are interrelated.  At any given moment, the United States of America is subjected to a barrage…continuous and unrelenting…of actions carried out by traitors designed to undermine our liberties and remove our freedoms under the Constitution from us.  I believe that Jade Helm is the series of readiness exercises to place the “partners” of the military, the police forces, and the bureaucratic machinery in place for such a thing as the TPP.

    I believe the Fast Track and TPP will be one of several “tipping points” for the American people, at least the percentage of us that will stand up and do something about it rather than “go gently into that good night,” so to speak.  The volume of the barrage is so intense that the people are kept off balance and unable to react, let alone keep up with these actions.  One measure after another is relentlessly pushing us into the totalitarian, third world slum that lies just around the corner.

    So here’s what I am asking of you guys and gals: comment on all information that you know regarding these two subjects and let’s see where we can take it, together.  It is a bit of a different approach; nevertheless, I mentioned before how important it is to facilitate the exchange of information.  You are the key.  Let’s see what we can do with it, and I wish to post a follow-up piece on it when all is said and done.  Hang in there and fight the good fight!  I hope to hear from each of you soon.

    Jeremiah Johnson is the Nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces (Airborne).  Mr. Johnson is also a Gunsmith, a Certified Master Herbalist, a Montana Master Food Preserver, and a graduate of the U.S. Army’s SERE school (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape).  He lives in a cabin in the mountains of Western Montana with his wife and three cats. You can follow Jeremiah’s regular writings at SHTFplan.com.

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      1. If this is true I’ll be the first to tell you to start loading your guns if they aren’t already. If nothing happens I’ll still be preparing. If this really goes down this way there will be a civil war…

        • They stay loaded. I’m going to kill the first ones that show up that threaten tyranny.

          • All this like any Military exercise is to produce wastly and costly federal contracts for the well conected Military Indistrial Complex Mafia clan. Has nothing to so with the protection of America or enhance Freedon or liberty. We need to imprison or kill the F-N Bastards. Start shootng at will. You need nobodys permission.

            • As they are putting the finishing touch’s
              on the national epitaph, maybe it will say
              something like: “All your mother’s patriots
              are dead because they were Slow and Stupid”
              on a stone wall next to the Viet Nam Memorial.

              Cynical yes, unrealistic never.
              Probably not what anyone wants to hear, but
              then the truth can be a very bitter pill to
              swallow. God bless us, one and all.

              • Amen OutWest!

            • You need to read Naomi Wolfe’s books- “Give Me Liberty” and “Letters to a Young Patriot”…

              The article above fits in with what she says in her books. This (above) is the last step, I believe, in the 10 steps listed that all would-be-dictators use for a take over. (To turn an open society into a police state).

            • Why is hilarys lesbian lover, daughter of the leaders of the Muslim brotherhood,been appointed to her election team?
              And why are there thousands of traffic baricades being placed every two miles on interstate 40 in needles California? Huh?

          • Let’s talk caliber choices. I’m pretty much sticking with .223 and 5.56 FMJ both 55 and 62 grains. Mainly because of the cost. 308 ammo is too expensive to stockpile on my budget although I’d much rather have it in a firefight. Anybody else care to discuss their views on rifle caliber?

            • 5.56, 7.62×39, .308. Trap enemies and burn them to death will work also.

              • Your enemies will bring more ammo to you.

                • Nobama, that’s true. They’ll also bring whatever rifles are chambered for that particular ammo, extra mags and other gear. Once the bullets start flying and the enemy starts taking casualties, those items will be laying there just for the taking. I’ll get all I can. Although I’ll be starting out with an M1 Carbine, my ammo supply won’t last all that long. .30 Carbine has been scarce since last summer. Been getting all I can find at gun shows, but for the most part, gun dealers haven’t been carrying that caliber. But I can be happy with another caliber and weapon.

                  • Braveheart not knocking your weaponry, but if I were to stockup and be armed on a budget, I would get an SKS and 7.62×39 steel cased wolf ammo. Good firepower and at a reasonable price. Trekker Out.

                    • foreign metric calibers will be the first thing to be stopped on being shipped into this country when it goes hot, Oblaimy has already played this with Ruskie ammo

                      stay domestic .. its all over this country , and its patriotic .. support your american ammo producers

                      just my 2 cents .. do whatchew wanna do

                    • Trekker- You are absolutely right! Victoria shoots true and straight, the ammo is cheap and plentiful and very powerful! She’ll fire a few thousand rounds before she needs a real good cleaning. Get a Yugo. They are the best quality!

                    • I don’t know why, but it seems Mac blocks replies when ever and for what ever reason. EOTS I don’t disagree with your response. But for those on a budget, they can buy an SKS and 5000rds of ammo which will last most people a lifetime and do it for the price of a good M1A and get change back. I know because I have both. When it gets down and dirty, one will do as good as the other. Truthfully how many people on here has every shot anything over 300yards? Trekker Out. I Have But Rarely And Barely!

                  • Stock a deep pantry. If you can’t join the fight, stock a deeper pantry and pass some food along to those in the fight.

                    Food and clean water are the keys to a sustained fight against the tyranny.

              • Reconnoiter the major railroad routes and bridges now folks..

                • We need to use more than just guns. They’ll be bringing armor to bear on us and we must use our heavy equipment such as dozers, loaders, trees, etc to block or overturn them. Booby traps around your property. Body armor is not effective when you are on fire and cooking, or in a hole impaled on a spike up the ass. Fuck our enemies as we must be more ruthless than them when it comes down to it.

                  • Zero, you’re spot on.

                    This will take the maximum efforts utilizing the minimum amount of high-tech gadgetry. It’ll be really dirty.

                    Violence of action will be the key.

                    Thanks for the comment. I’m with you.


                  • Hi guys! I just spent the weekend fishing up on the mountain. I now know for sure that I can set my tent up and get to the bank to fish, even with my disabilities. I also got to try out my crossbow…every tree was scared for it’s life by the time I was done. LOL 🙂


                    My hopes are with those people who seem to be floating along the river on a log. Above the surface they seem to pose no threat to TPTB…

                    However, UNDER the surface they might be dragging mines behind them, on their way to their planned destination.

                    My hope is that they can’t detect and disable us all. SOMEONE HAS TO GET THROUGH THE LINE. Some of us NEED to stay out of the spotlight. Guerrilla warfare works best in the shadows.

                    That’s why I don’t pay a lot of attention to the numbers of people who are preparing. I HOPE THE NUMBERS LIE. I hope there is a bigger, silent army out there waiting quietly with no bulls eyes on their backs.

                    Anyone who plays poker knows what I mean. Keep your cards close to the vest until it’s time to slap them down on the table.

                    Sometimes it is best to NOT get up on that soapbox.

                    • Sixpack,No truer words were ever spoken never give away your plan!

                    • Sixpack

                      Excellent post and I hope you are right. I enjoy your post and you seem to be very wise to me. Hope those trees recover quickly. We need things to have for cover and concealment.

                  • Exactly!, Zero. Mobility is the better part of armor. Evading being hit is the best layer of armor. The rest mustn’t inhibit that mobility or, be so bulky as to cause injury from trying to move in it.

                    Instead of being buried in the enemy’s box, we need to think outside of it. That’s where we have the advantage that they won’t have–and they wouldn’t succeed trying it themselves since it favors the many and they are but few. That’s why they rely on high-tech and mechanization.

              • Dear Mclovin and Zero,

                I prefer 5.56/.223 because it is in high supply if our government comes for us (Sun Tzu: always resupply from your enemy’s storehouses).

                Also 7.62 x 39, for that same “Art of War” tenet when our friends the Chinese decide to come calling/call in the trillion we owe them.

                Aside from that, I love .45 ACP.

                You guys hang in there.


                • Thanks JJ, you too.

            • 338 lapua with 250gr SMK. Reach out and say hello and body armor is optional.

            • 5.56×45, 7.62×51, 7.62×39, 9mm, .40, .45
              among others. Have the ability and supplies to reload everything I shoot with the exception of 22 cal. The ability to reload should be HIGH on any preppers list, especially in these times. The games the government is playing with firearms and ammo availability should make everyone stock up on reloading supplies and spare parts for firearms. These items will be good as gold in a collapse or martial law type event.

              • ^+1 what he say.

            • Ive mentioned before in another comment section here that I built a 7.62×39 AR stand alone gun. Pretty easy to facilitate when all you need is an upper to go on your 223 or 556 lower. Two pins and you’ve got a new gun in the 308/7.62 cal. , but affordable ammo to boot. You can get the uppers at SOTA ARMS in Minnesota for under I think $500.00. Their site is https://sotaarms.com/ My upper was a bit more from another company for about 850.00 , but I love it. I got it on gunbroker, which is another option to find the upper of your choice. There is so many to chose from but I stuck with the 7.62 caliber for ease of finding ammo and cost. I built 2 of the sota arms guns in 7.62 for friends as stand alone guns.

              They have all the other calibers also. You will have to get new magazines for whatever caliber you decide on though. But it will fit your current lower.

              I figure if we have reports of 15,000 Russians in the states practicing with our boys for martial law and the government stockpiling 7.62 ammo for whatever reason, it was time to give at least one of my AR’s a new caliber. I’m not that sold on the AK and SKS rifles for accuracy issues. They are a fine weapon if that’s all you can afford though. I just like the AR platform, so many options to chose from. Its endless.

              Hornady has some nice ammo for these, but it is as high as the 308 ammo. Hope this helps someone here.

              • Survivor- I completely disagree with you on the SKS. At least a Yugo SKS. I cant speak to the others, but the Yugo is pinpoint accurate out to 100 yards with just the iron sights. Even though a Yugo is classified as a “battle rifle”, with the right scope it can be a medium range sniper rifle. Just my experience anyway…

                • If you can’t hit at 300 yards with an SKS -any military SKS except those put together out of scrap for US consumer bottom end markets (meaning any issue weapon not some consumerized junk)- you need more practice.

                  They’re designed to be used at any range from bayonet charge close up to 300 meters by the average soldier or insurgent with capability of longer range use as well by experienced marksmen. Their sights, like the AK sights, are designed to hit a man sized target without going over or under him out to 300 meters when on the battle setting (raised and pulled all the way to the rear, resting on the rear pegs, not at one of the numbered range positions meant to be used by marksmen).

              • sorry bud but your .308 upper will not opperate on an AR-15 lower . The AR-15 lower is multi cal however the .308 is not one of them . mag well and buffer tube as well as many other aspects of the lower receivers are not compatable with each other

            • …Anything that flies! Who will care how it gets there.

        • I have always said…that some of us prep for our own survival…and some of us prep to honor our oaths to the constitution.

          We have always known what their goal is.

          And we know where our loyalties lie.

          And we know what is coming.

          I hope that our strength of will is as big as our mouths.

          Cause we are less than 1% of the population and this is gonna take some strong-willed men, thats for shit sure.

          • I want to make it perfectly clear,
            Uncle Sam is not my Uncle.

            • Can you people please pressure the republicans to vote to oppose TTP and TPA?

              I see most of you are starting to realize “you’re not in the club” – Country Club that is (George Carlin)

              Check out the votes of “your” sentate and house reps as this BS continues, and get on the phone, or visit their office.

              Republican leaders in the House and Senate support both TPA and TPP.

              Don’t forget about the European deal too, TTIP.

              This is a non partisan issue, the are 6-8 Dems that might flip, so ALL of THEM need to be pressured and watched like a hawk.

              • Get-Real

                Everyone of us should be doing what you stated right now. What else are we going to do at this time?

                My thoughts are that it will do no good. I have felt that they are all in it together and all the bickering is just a show for a long time. It may do no good.

                It is what we should be doing though while we prep.

                I wish we could make all around us understand what is going on in this country. We must prep as much as we can to be able to help others too. WE must be choosy who we help but with help should come more numbers to our cause. The more people we have the better chance we have.

                • At this point it’s all just theater really. They will do nothing in the federal government that will make and changed that will positively affect our freedoms and liberties.

                  They are too far down the rabbit hole for that. Not being cynical, just realistic.

                  The federal government now only exists for one reason, to support itself.

                  The only difference and R or D might make now is to buy us a little more time before we reach the end of the journey, whatever that might mean depending on how things develop.

                  Basically, ignore federal politics except to stay informed for your safety.

                  Local communities are the key. Make them have to fight in every little small community all across the nation, every tyrannical step they take.

            • I thought he was that uncle that also happens to be a registered sex offender.

          • That’s where I’m at.

            Too much talk, no action.

            What’s the tipping point going to be when we quit talking and start standing?

            I hope when the time comes I’m a man and not a mouse.

            • I was at another site the other day and a commenter said ” Just vote liberal like and get this shit started, I’m tiered of waiting around” I got to tell you I’m about there.

              • That would be like shooting yourself in the foot, because you hadn’t seen any game all day…just so you could feel like to did something…

                • Not really, you get the same result either way, but with the Republicans you don’t get the opposition you get when the libs are in power.

                  Vote the libs in and you have opposition to the direction we are going, vote the Republicans in and you have none. (remember how all the rapidly growing opposition just sort of fizzled out when Bush beat Gore after Clinton’s terms? People who had woken up just sort of went back to sleep.)

              • your right Hillbilly…the longer we wait…the stronger they get…

            • “Too much talk, no action.

              Eric Frein, Chris Dorner, (you can fill in the blanks with your own favorites)

              Perhaps they too were wondering —

              “What’s the tipping point going to be when we quit talking and start standing?”

            • I am so frustrated at the situation like you. We should do everything we can to turn this around. The last thing we should want is war though. Killing another human changes things forever. It is going to come to that I believe. But I hope and pray that the good lord blesses us and turns this around.
              I don’t want to see friends and family around me die. I don’t want to endure the pain and pure suffering that is headed our way. I will do what I must when the time comes. But to wish for that now is one huge mistake.

          • This is a different 1% and a better 1%

          • Acid Etch, I wholeheartedly agree.

            You have guts and you “shoot it straight” without mincing words.

            We are going to need a lot of resolve and also to reinforce one another when the time comes.

            I thank you for all of your honesty and your insight.

            Respectfully Yours,


          • Yes, most certainly indeed, Acid Etch!

          • Everyone has fallen for the magicians illusion. ALL of you are watching the magician’s right hand while the magician’s left hand is orchestrating your doom by much less publicized and obvious means. READ BETWEEN THE LINES and ignore the “fear porn”!

            The power is still within OUR HANDS. But not if the majority fall for the power of the ILLUSION that is now becoming a mainstream thought process in the “alternative media”.

            Stop looking for the “simple answer supplied by someone else”. Start researching your own answers and opinions.

            The “backdoor” you are ignoring will ultimately decide your viability! THINK ABOUT IT!

            What is the “backdoor”??? If you need to ask, you are woefully uninformed and should dedicate MUCH time to REAL independent research. GOOD HUNTING!

        • Tropical Storm Ana passed over my head yesterday here in the Outer Banks. Flooding on the beach roads and torrents of rain. The TVs went out but that’s about it.

          • damn! thye didn’t take you too, acid face?!

        • Hi Jeremiah,

          Thanks for the shout-out. 3 quick thoughts:

          (1) “The volume of the barrage is so intense that the people are kept off balance and unable to react, let alone keep up with these actions.”

          Absolutely correct. I understand this strategy and tactic in a military engagement as being completely legitimate, but when it’s deployed against the low-info apathetic sheeple citizenry, that’s also aided and abetted by a complicit liberal meanstream media, it’s overwhelming.

          (2) “It is a bit of a different approach; nevertheless, I mentioned before how important it is to facilitate the exchange of information.”

          I’ll suggest another question that tags on your approach: Who needs to have this information?

          (a) Do apathetic sheeple need to be vigorously shaken so that “enough” critical mass is achieved so that a threat of mass political outcry would cause TPTB to stand down or delay its mission?

          If so, then it’s the age-old question of how to convince large number of folks to take the Red Pill, and that you’re not a tin-foil whacked out conspiracy theorist.

          BTW, the threat of mass political civil unrest could play into the hands of TPTB who actually want that so that they could invoke martial law (without of course calling it martial law). Hence, Jade Helm.

          (b) Who are the key decision makers in various agencies and branches who can be recruited and turned as insurgents and spies (assuming they already aren’t) against Obola and his team? And who are their loyalists? Key agencies that need an inside presence monitoring the activities of TPTB are NSA, DHS, CIA, FBI, State Department, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Joint Chiefs of Staff, DIA, National Guard, and various agencies of all 50 states.

          FWIW, it’s probably safe to assume that TPTB know who all the OathKeepers are.

          Then that information facilitation that you’re referring to, Jeremiah, needs to be privately disseminated in this secret insurgent network. How? Beats me.

          (3) I read the FoxnewsDOTcom website article about the Dems defeating TPP that another commenter pointed out. So for now, the link between Jade Helm and TPP has been severed.

          However, the article’s last paragraph has me very concerned:

          “Some Democrats also want to force Republicans to deal first with a surveillance measure that Democrats consider more pressing. That strategy suggests Obama might have better luck on trade in a month or so.”

          What surveillance measure would that be? That doesn’t sound good.

          Those are my initial tentative thoughts. Hope they’re of some limited benefit. Thanks JJ for being a contributor to shtfplan!

          • Dear FreeSlave,

            Thanks for the comment. You’re spot on with the apathy of the public in general, and the complicity of the media in “crafting opinion” rather than objective journalism.

            Now, as to that surveillance measure you mentioned? One of the things that just happened with the Baltimore Riots was that CCTV was used to determine the cops made more stops than they logged with that guy in the meat wagon. I think that part of the problem with the fusion centers and the surveillance net they have in place is that they haven’t ironed out all of the legal problems to make it run smoothly.

            In this case, Britain is the “guinea pig,” as all of the companies placing surveillance tech here are the ones who have grounded it in Britain first.

            I believe that Jade Link is the first steppingstone to bridge the tech surveillance with the operations/follow-ups on the ground (snatch-and grabs, dissident roundups, renditions, etc.)

            And finally I thank you for your contributions to this site! Your thoughts and comments are so valuable…not just to me, but to Mac and the rest of us.

            I would love to sit and spend a day with you just talking about all of these issues. As it stands, if you mail your e-mail to Mac, he can forward it to me if you wish, and I’ll mail you mine.

            You hang in there, and stay frosty!


            • JJ:

              To all of us who do not “buy” Free/Slaves stance/opinions your shout out to him speaks volumes.

              • Sorry granny, but he doesn’t need YOUR permission to speak to whom he wants to or think whatever he likes to. Your over inflated ego is due for a major deflation, truth is you’re just NOT that important here or anywhere else.

                • When Acid Etch is included in “respect” in a SUBJECT at SHTF something is wrong.

                  He has written about “raping daughters”, “no respect for old people”, that “he loves homosexual sex”, “spouts filthy language, etc.

                  Where are all the other SHTF posters that have OBJECTED to his posts. If you cannot take a stand against an author who respects ACID ETCH, jus where will your stand be?

                  Are you all cowards?

                  • Dear P.O.G.

                    I was unaware of what he had posted (that you just indicated there). If I had read it, I certainly would not agree with it.

                    I was only commenting on what I did read of him, because it seems as if his latest comments have been proactive/held a point.

                    I didn’t mean to aggravate you further; nor do I condone any such diatribe/bad things as you ascribed to him in your comment. I’m not that way.

                    My apologies for not having as much experience reading his comments, but I do wish for everyone (even those who have posted things that are not good) to have a chance to pull their heads “out of their fourth point of contact” and redeem themselves/walk a different path.

                    Sorry to have offended you.

                    Respectfully Yours,


                  • i think maaaaybe we are all a little tired of acid’s posts on here, and just think if we ignore the poor child, he will just fade away. i for one admire a kid without the slightest ability to comprehend written words…much less write, that can talk his poor old prostitute mother into reading SHTFPLAN for him and putting his thoughts down here for all to read…it was at 14 years old he had his first job at the farm he lives on, where he was put in charge of inseminating the pigs. it must have been quite traumatic for him to learn at 16 years old, that they had a MACHINE for doing it the whole time he worked there. so give the kid some slack. vaccinations really DO cause autism, it turns out. he and his mommy are no doubt heading to wal-mart this afternoon to pick up some better clothes to hide some of that “people of walmart” look….so, you see, progress CAN be made, even with the most hopeless.and remember acid’s motto…Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy….and if you’re listening, acid, if at first you don’t succeed, why not try skydiving?….his mommy must be sooo disappointed. oh well, maybe she’ll do a better job raising the next one.

                  • Hey granny,

                    who are trying to bullshit, yourself? Let me point out that you were pissing and moaning about Free Slave, not Acid. Trying to change the subject isn’t your strong suit granny, as a matter of fact, lucid thinking of any kind isn’t your strong suit. Go back to bed, at least you make sense THEN.

                  • POG I may not agree with you very often, but this is one of those times when I would give you 100 thumbs up! Ass’ed may come on here trying to give us some cute little review on clothing or some such thing, but on the whole he is a foul mouthed pervert, saying anything for shock value. I don’t think we should hold a grudge against each other on this site just because someone makes statments we disagree with, but AE has made so many disgusting and perverted statments that, I personally don’t think they should be overlooked. Trekker Out. Thats My Opinion, And It Ought To Be Yours!

            • “I believe that Jade Link is the first steppingstone to bridge the tech surveillance with the operations/follow-ups on the ground”

              That would be the best tactical and most logical next step in the progression, JJ. They’ve been testing it out on common street criminals, to see if it would stand up in court. It has, for the most part, if you don’t count the stinger controversy where prosecutors and cops lied to the judges about their use.

              They’ve been getting a lot of practice, both in using the tech AND putting it to paper in a coherent case workup. They’ve worked it long enough to sort out vulnerabilities and weaknesses. They think they’ve got it all covered now.

              YOU CAN BET THEY WON’T BE JUST CHASING CRIMINALS WITH IT, FOR LONG. In fact, IMO, they published the criminals they caught with it, but I believe they’ve been using it for their true purpose for a while.

              BTW, I’ve got some unknowns staying in a house that was for sale. They’ve been there since January, but still have sheets on the windows. I’ve only seen one female outside, and she was sweeping the sidewalk, while straining to see what we were doing over here. She keeps a hat on, but she’s not any older than maybe 40ish. Haven’t actually seen the two guys who moved the stuff in when they got here in January.

              There are 3 different civilian vehicles in and out. Lights on in the back most all the time. Very little was moved in, like furniture. There isn’t much furniture in there, from what can be seen from here.

              You’d think that if they could afford to buy a house, they could afford some drapes and a couch for it…

              No name on the mailbox yet. No attempt to make contact with any of us either. They just seem to be watching. Oh, they move this ice chest around outside, and there’s a wheelbarrow in the yard, but nothing really going on outside as far as yard work. Nothing visibly going on inside either.

              According to property records, no sale has been recorded.

              I think they’ve been placing operatives in our communities long before the news came out. I think I’m looking at some, right across the street. It would make sense, because no one would take a second look since they were already there before the news broke about the cover placements. Today, I take nothing for granted.

              any suggestions?

              • Sixpack

                If they are already there and are operatives then I would introduce myself. I would attempt to gather information on them. Find out where they claim to be from, where they work, there names, and such. Then I would check out there stories. Yes they could have cover stories but mistakes are made. If they are already there watching then it does not hurt to act like a neighbor and introduce yourself. If they are operatives they already know who you are anyway. If there story is false then you have to decide how you are going to take care of the problem if the balloon goes up. I can give some suggestions if there stories do not check out.

              • Not very good “operatives” to be drawing suspicion to themselves by the way they are living.

                How’s the real estate market in your area?

                Have you considered contacting the owner of record or the RE agency that had it for sale to see if it became a rental or was sold on a ‘rent to own’ type of arrangement?

              • Dear Sixpack,

                Absolutely. Go through the utilities…telephone (if a landline is in), electric, and water. That’ll list even renters. Then step it up to use the address and backtrack through the DMV…can claim an accident without any full insurance info…get a cop or an insurance guy to help you.

                Plowing the field will do it infowise; use Zabasearch and facebook. Check the mailbox (not to read mail, but to find a name and an address). Municipalities will record the property of the original owner, and go to them to find out who the owner is renting it to.

                Check the bags of groceries they bring in…go to the local supermarket they frequent and tell them you lost your loyalty card and give them the address…see if they’ll give you a new one.

                There are many ways….public libraries, public search engines…use ’em all.

                Hope some of this helps. I know it’s not running with the “Marquis of Queensbury rules,” but if these guys are shills/operatives? It’s more important to follow Malcolm X’s “by any means neccessary” tenet to obtain the juice on them.

                Wishing you well; let me know how it turns out.



                • Thanks guys, I’m not done with them yet. Maybe if they get wind of someone checking who they are, if they really are plants, then they’ll probably disappear as quickly and quietly as they arrived.

                  I’m really trying not to let paranoia run away with me here. People have the right to their privacy if they’re that type, so I guess I’m going to have to decide how far I’m willing to go. I see no problem with sticking to public records, since they are publicly available.

                  I really hope they’re just ‘different’, I can do different.

          • Don’t see how you can call the media liberal when there is virtually nothing about the TPP or Fast track being presented by them. All media are the lap dogs of corporations which are the sole beneficiaries of TPP. All government on both sides are the lap dogs of corporations too.

        • beginning of the end

          • The end of the beginning.

        • ArmedPatriot, your words ring true.

          Use that 2nd Amendment God-given right every chance you can, stay focused, and remember, you’re not alone.

          Keep fighting the good fight.


        • wow, and you can feel all the unsettleness in the air, people are angry, aggressive more than ever ! I know last few posts have even been heated among us, lots of religious stuff, and ironic Religion has been the leader of many wars, Lets keep this LIKE THE ARTICLE SAYS, stay close, report what is needed. Those who need to PRAY do so, lets not push anything on each other but our accounts of what we see. I am an ECONOMIC fanatic 20 years, I see stocks disconnected, I”ve seen the biggest lies regarding work and unemployment, Our sources of truth are GROWING SLIM, so now we have this site and we can weed and seed thru media info and be wise enough to report CONCERNS. I am near Los Angeles and Im very uncomfortable, altho in the subs of LA, BOL is in the making. I have made a FULL TIME job of prepping the past week. This shit is coming down faster than I anticipated. OCT may not be the tipping point, I think we are looking at summer, I can be the ECONOMIC voice, Maybe we can all state what specialty we have to offer,We all follow many things but have knowledge in a certain area, Thank all of you for your posts, arguing aside, we are all human, we wanna make it out on the other side. I will not hesitate to protect me and mine. Mental preparation is half the battle.

          • Godspeed Cheri. I’m praying and moving as quick as I can too. Whatever happens, at least I have the lasting peace that my family and I are spiritually prepared in Jesus Christ alone.

          • Cheri, if at all possible, get out of LA, out of Cali all together. If the collapse doesn’t get you, the ‘big one’ will.

          • There is only one thing that unites people and that is a common religion to give common morals and values.

            Without common morals and values you do not have cohesion.

            Without cohesion, you do not have a unified movement.

            Without a unified movement, you do not accomplish anything.

            Religion gets blamed for wars on a regular basis, but non religious nations have gone to war at the same rate as or more often than religious ones.

            Wars are another uniter of a people, but a temporary one since continuous war is needed for continuous unification and continuous war is unsustainable whereas continuous religion sustains itself and keeps people united in and of itself.

            Why do you think there has been such a sustained and intense attack on religion -specifically the Christian religion our nation was formed around- for the last 50+ years?

            • “There is only one thing that unites people and that is a common religion to give common morals and values.”

              Don’t be so sure of that.

              There are at least three more things that unites people towards a common goal, right or wrong—HATRED and ANGER, as we’ve witnessed in Ferguson and other places where people rioted over nonsense;

              and FEAR, as we’ve seen it used in this country, to push us into the next great battle, against yet another unknown threat.

              Of the three, I think FEAR gets the best results. Why? Because we’ve been conditioned since childhood to control our anger. We teach our kids not to hit others or harm them, even if they hurt you first. There’s a 100 different methods used to invalidate feelings of anger, both as children and as adults…no so, with feelings of fear. They don’t teach how to control fear…in fact, they capitalize on it.

              In order to control FEAR, you must first be rational and as we’ve seen, rationality isn’t on the menu for society today. Having a firm grasp of reality certainly doesn’t hurt, but that isn’t part of the curriculum either.

              I’m a firm believer in controlling my own emotions—all of them, including fear, which isn’t easy, BTW. Some people call it being ‘unemotional’…I call it ‘being in control.’

              Today, FEAR is a Weapon of Mass Destruction.

              We should all be as familiar with our fears, as we are with our other weapons. Either can kill, but in combination, it’s scary what can happen. I suggest working on controlling your mind, as much as your trigger finger.

              Just my 2 cents worth.

        • First let’s define exactly what is going on here by those who serve within our governments – *Treason and **Terrorism.

          For example, when United States Secretary of State John Kerry signed the UN Arms Trade Treaty on behalf of the Obama administration; that was an act of Treason against the American people and the US Constitution. (Treason here in the USA must always be against the people as the sovereigns).

          Before that when Obama, Panetta, and Dempsey gave the US Military to the UN, and ignored the congress that was TREASON, and unfortunately, all military since have been complicit because they have NOT kept their Oath and they “just followed orders” and “just did their jobs” (they are not the only ones) instead of following, defending and supporting our legitimate government the US Constitution and all that is in Pursuance thereof it.

          There were some who were actually prosecuted and jailed for refusing to wear a UN uniform, and to follow UN directions as they are REQUIRED BY THEIR OATH AND DUTY TO THE USA

          *Treason – http://www.shastadefense.com/Dare-Call-It-Treason-21.pdf

          ** Terrorism – 28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism is defined as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

        • I am not a contributor regularly, but I am an Oathkeeper (oathkeeper.org). Since I do not let politics decide what I can or cannot say within my nation under my US Constitution do not expect me to be “pc”. I will not sidestep what I see as Treason and/or Terrorism because it is committed by those who supposedly serve within our nation in various departments.

          Let’s define exactly what is going on here by those who serve within our governments – *Treason and **Terrorism.

          You ask, are the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and Jade Helm interrelated? Yes, they are both treason against the American people and the US Constitution. If they use force to implement them they are declaring war on, and invading the USA (US military under UN orders is still an invasion, sadly by our own people).

          For example, when United States Secretary of State John Kerry signed the UN Arms Trade Treaty on behalf of the Obama administration; that was an act of Treason against the American people and the US Constitution. (Treason here in the USA must always be against the people as the sovereigns and source of all governmental authority).

          Before that when Obama, Panetta, and Dempsey gave the US Military to the UN, and ignored the congress that was TREASON. Unfortunately all military since have been complicit because they have NOT kept their Oath and they “just followed orders” and “just did their jobs” (they are not the only ones) instead of following, defending and supporting our legitimate government the US Constitution and all that is in Pursuance thereof it.

          There were some who were actually prosecuted and jailed for refusing to wear a UN uniform, and to follow UN directions as they are REQUIRED BY THEIR OATH AND DUTY TO THE USA TO DO. They kept their Oath and the rest of the military who did not keep their Oaths did nothing to stop those treasonous “trials” against them, those traitors to the USA that prosecuted them, etc.

          You cannot support and defend what you do not truly understand.

          Obama cannot be the US president because; he never met the three requirements (everyone ought to know that one or retake US history, the real one), ***he became a presidential candidate through Election Fraud, and he was “elected” through Election Fraud. But then so has every “US” president since Bush 1, and a few before him.

          The US Constitution makes it clear that once it was accepted as our government NOTHING is higher in this nation then it; not laws, treaties, regulations, etc.

          It defines our government making clear that there is a separation of powers between the general (federal) government and the state governments (Yes, we do have a compound government with different powers and authorities); plus a separation within each government into different branches with their own sphere of authority that no other branch, or person, or group, or nation, or anything else can use. It is forbidden to the other branches except and when specifically written down within the USN Constitution.

          We know it as the Separation of Powers. Before you turn away this is very important to understand.

          When the executive branch creates and agency it only has the authority of the executive branch – assisting the president in his enforcement duties. No agency within the executive branch can create laws and regulations that can be used against the people, nor can it decide the guilt or innocence, nor can it decide the punishment.

          It can ONLY enforce the laws made by the representatives who are ELECTED to office. Yep, those laws, regulations, etc created MUST be made by those who are actually the peoples elected representatives, though research, etc can be done by assistants and assistant agencies.

          The IRS is under the executive branch. It can ONLY lawfully enforce laws made by those elected to the legislative branch. (remember that they cannot assign, give away, trade, or sell the authority that was assigned to the branch they serve within. The BRANCH has the authority, and those elected to SERVE within it are ALLOWED to use it.)

          Basically what has been ongoing for decades is Treason against the USA. Because We did nothing to stop it it has morphed into what it is today. But since this was never done lawfully, but was done with lies, deceit, secret things ongoing still it is NOT lawful here.

          Alexander Hamilton: “The natural cure for an ill-administration, in a popular or representative constitution, is a change of men.”

          What we must do is change the Domestic Enemies and Traitors to the USA who are ill-using, not serving within them. We who stand for the US Constitution are not “revolutionaries”, as we support our LEGITIMATE government, but we are replacing the traitors and domestic enemies within it – and with out.

          Unfortunately that means pretty much all who cannot prove that they supported the US Constitution and kept their Oath must be charged, arrested, and prosecuted under our laws.

          If they attack us they are committing war and terrorism against the USA, the US Constitution and her people.

          It is important to realize that the Militia, like the ****Grand Jury, is under the Peoples authority, not anyone who serves within our governments. Nor are they the only tools of the people. It is not listed under any branch except to allow for the calling out of them when needed to enforce the laws or defend the nation; or the state that they are in. It is also listed as to what the congress is required to do for the peoples Militia (Clause 15, 16)

          Benjamin Franklin: “In free governments the rulers are the servants, and the people their superiors and sovereigns. For the former, therefore, to return among the latter was not to degrade but to promote them.”

          *Treason – http://www.shastadefense.com/Dare-Call-It-Treason-21.pdf

          ** Terrorism – 28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism is defined as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

          *** The 2008 Democratic Nominating Committee (DNC) document did not include the normal language stating that Obama was qualified to be a candidate. The 2008 Republican Nominating Committee (RNC) document did, as is normal. This shows that the DNC knew that Obama was not qualified, or why change the form?

          **** “The grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right. In fact the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people”.

          “Thus, citizens have the unbridled right to empanel their own grand juries and present “True Bills” of indictment to a court, which is then required to commence a criminal proceeding. Our Founding Fathers presciently thereby created a “buffer” the people may rely upon for justice, when public officials, including judges, criminally violate the law.” (Misbehavior, “Good Behaviour” requirement)

          “The grand jury is an institution separate from the courts, over whose functioning the courts do not preside, we think it clear that, as a general matter at least, no such “supervisory” judicial authority exists. The “common law” of the Fifth Amendment demands a traditional functioning grand jury.”

          “Although the grand jury normally operates, of course, in the courthouse and under judicial auspices, its institutional relationship with the judicial branch has traditionally been, so to speak, at arm’s length. Judges’ direct involvement in the functioning of the grand jury has generally been confined to the constitutive one of calling the grand jurors together and administering their oaths of office. The grand jury’s functional independence from the judicial branch is evident both in the scope of its power to investigate criminal wrongdoing, and in the manner in which that power is exercised.”

          “The grand jury ‘can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated, or even because it wants assurance that it is not.’ It need not identify the offender it suspects, or even “the precise nature of the offense” it is investigating. The grand jury requires no authorization from its constituting court to initiate an investigation, nor does the prosecutor require leave of court to seek a grand jury indictment. And in its day-to-day functioning, the grand jury generally operates without the interference of a presiding judge. It swears in its own witnesses and deliberates in total secrecy.”

          “Recognizing this tradition of independence, we have said the 5th Amendment’s constitutional guarantee presupposes an investigative body ‘acting independently of either prosecuting attorney or judge”

          “Given the grand jury’s operational separateness from its constituting court, it should come as no surprise that we have been reluctant to invoke the judicial supervisory power as a basis for prescribing modes of grand jury procedure. Over the years, we have received many requests to exercise supervision over the grand jury’s evidence-taking process, but we have refused them all. “it would run counter to the whole history of the grand jury institution” to permit an indictment to be challenged “on the ground that there was incompetent or inadequate evidence before the grand jury.” (Plus it would be unlawful on their part since they have no legitimate authority over the Grand Jury; no branch does.) Justice Antonin Scalia writing for the majority said In the Supreme Court case of United States v. Williams, 112 S.Ct. 1735, 504 U.S. 36, 118 L.Ed.2d 352 (1992)

        • It is not a matter of if it is true, it is how much more is contained in the TPP that we will not be allowed to know until we are staring down the muzzle of a UN flagged weapon (or gazing up at the guilliotine blade). Me and mine will do as our forefathers–lives, fortunes, sacred honor.

          • The ARMED *UN was here during the 2008 elections

            Concerned About Conservatives, UN Affiliate to Monitor U.S. Election
            “Dozens of election observers with a UN-partner group known as the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) will be stationed throughout the country…The “observer” mission, according to a statement released by the OSCE, is to ensure that U.S. elections comply with “international” standards.”

            That is correct, we were already invaded by ARMED UN military – whatever name they want to call it and NO ONE EVEN NOTICED except a few of us. If the US elections did not go the way the NWO wanted we would have been attacked and they would have OPENLY put into place Obama, Romney had already shown that he did not have what it took. Then some spin would have been put out to “calm the people”. This is exactly what they have used our US (now UN) military to do in other nations when their “elections” did not reflect the UN’s wishes.

            Texas attorney general threatens to arrest monitors observing US election
            State attorney general calls international group’s plan to watch for fairness at the polls ‘legally irrelevant in the United States’

            Few backed him up.

            This has happened here in the US before.
            “The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States, where the supreme court has already determined that voter ID laws are constitutional,” Abbott said.

            The US routinely sends poll watchers to elections in foreign countries, particularly those where there are concerns about the fairness of the vote.
            In television interviews, Abbott denounced the OSCE as an interfering foreign body even though the US is a founding member and it was invited by President George Bush’s administration to monitor the 2004 and 2008 presidential elections in the US.

            Once again, no one noticed that we were literally under the gun to run OUR elections as the UN wants.

            We still are.

        • My glasses broke! but here goes… I don’t know anything about the 2 areas you mentioned (military and other merging). However, I DO know that they are merging different departments that used to be separated, all for centralized control (power at the top).

          Years ago, when I went to get my license renewed and complained (for 2 yrs!) about how a national ID card is illegal (they swiped my drivers license and wouldn’t give it back until I had my last name changed) so all my important documents matched!

          … anyhow, the cop at the DMV told me that the DMV and social security administration were merging and that’s why everything had to match. I called the SS administration and they were SHOCKED that the DMV said I had to either change my last name or have my social security card changed to my previous married name… long story. But its all about centralization of power/ merging different departments.

          • Also, Jeremiah, when I confronted the cop at the DMV–RATHER BLATANTLY AND OUTSPOKEN– I TOLD HIM THAT OTHER STATES WERE NOT GIVING IN TO THE (oops1 sorry caps– no glasses!) anyhow, I told him that other states were not giving in to the national ID thing and were fighting back, he said that the other states WERE GIVING in now because, (he said) they were given sufficient funds to implement the programs the fed wanted.. so its all about money. that is how the elites get their will done.

            I fought for 2 years, going down there (DMV) and also, calling on the phone, confronting the head lady of DMV at capital, asking her… “doesn’t this bother your conscience??!” finally, after 2 yrs (and drivig with no license– they stole it from me when I went to re new it… and I had a near perfect driving record!) anyhow, finally, they said I could get my name changed free with no red tape (usually takes months and all sorts of horrible red tape and costs a thousand dollars) anyhow, I got it done at no cost and no red tape at all– in one day! I actually wanted my name changed (to maiden name) so it was OK with me… but still, I guess they got what they wanted too– evrythign matched in their f– records!

          • Also, they finally gave me my drivers license back!!

        • FEAR PORN!!! AWWWWWW!

      2. Like the cool kids say , does the pope shît in the woods?
        Of course they’re related!!!

        The TPP sold the citizens as slaves to china which is going to come collect the land held as collateral on the dollars borrowed.

        The people say no to disarmament and refuse to turn in weapons and BOOM it’s on like donkey kong once again as the cool kids say

        Best of luck to you all when this little party kicks off ( haha like it hasn’t already kicked off……)

        • it’s important for people to understand WHY they are doing this, so that they can start BELIEVING they are actually DOING it to U.S…it’s all about the debt that CAN’T be paid back, and about the FED, that says we NEED more inflation, so they can fleece the american public of ALL of the rest of their money. the system of fiat money was a ponzi scheme all along, and it HAD to end up with wars, both here, and abroad. many will be pissed when the “debt” they are holding CAN’T be paid back. and it’s all because the american people haven’t been taught anything in school anymore. the “dumbing down” of america. hell, they don’t even teach how to balance a checkbook. they don’t teach consequences in school either(fail, and still get your diploma)….let the kiddies make “choices”, but when they fail at anything, they say it’s ok, at least you tried…..you’re special johnny, just like all the rest of the kids! it’s about the debt, and america(ns) is BROKE!…cities, BROKE!…states, BROKE! …federal gubmint, BROKE!, and BROKEN!….citizens? BROKE, and BROKEN!….across the looted plain, all i SEE is BROKE! right now our politicians are playin’ russian roulette with a round in the chamber,…i just wonder if they REALIZE they are playin’ with a semi-automatic…

          • Whoa there BCOD
            Keep that shit up and you’ll be joining
            me in the ranks of the lunatic fringe.

          • buttcrackofdoom

            “across the looted plain, all i SEE is BROKE! right now our politicians are playin’ russian roulette with a round in the chamber,…”

            I would say your wrong on that, they have the chambers fully loaded. Next is putting it up to our head.

          • YOU SAIT IT PERFECT< and I would love the thumbs up arrow, please,,,, MY take on the thumbs up arrow is that we can stop on the articles that have many thumbs up, Sometimes it takes a few hours to read thru the thread, so Please consider thumbs up, so I can stop at QUALITY POSTS and that's what the thumb means to me, THANK YOU

            YES we are broke and we are against a wall and we have no escaping the financial collapse, EXACTLY, so they try to divert our attention, and truth is we have multiple things, a POTUS that wants us to fall, a financial system that's been a long time in the making to fail, debt, no jobs, desperation, and yes even biblical events, and if you follow Martin Armstrong, the charts point to a collapse coming this year. So we have many forces coming at us,that is why we KNOW, FOR A FACT, it is now upon us,

            • thank you, cheri, and i miss the thumbs too!!!well said on your part too.

      3. history gives MANY examples

        Triumph Of The Will

        “You may tire of comparisons between the USA!USA!USA! and Nazi Germany. Too bad! President Oreo is very much like Hitler, whether you want to admit it, or not. (Hopefully, Oreo’s fate will mirror Hitler’s.)

        “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.” – Adolf Hitler

        “The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.” – Adolf Hitler

        ht p://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/05/12/triumph-of-the-will/

        it’s hard
        almost impossible to believe
        because the minds of most just can’t accept it

        but IT IS HAPPENING

        we are devolving into a police state
        it may have a velvet glove (so far)
        but make no mistake about it

        • U wanna blame somebody, blame Woodrow Wilson. Way back in 1913 he sold this country over to the handlers we have today.
          This gaggle didn’t happen over night.

          • Dear HH,

            Absolutely right. Now we’re reaping the whirlwind of generations of complacency and in 1913 that football was kicked off. We’re in the last quarter, now.

            Stay sharp.



        • Dear Satori,

          Brilliant quotes, and so applicable.

          By the way, I haven’t had the chance to thank you for all of the incredible comments you have posted throughout the years on bio weapons and manmade pandemic potentials. You and Meree (or Merree?) are the two whose comments I always save in my file on bio weapons and pandemics.

          Your words are awesomely profound, in every way.



      4. I saw this the other day. This is certainly plausible from a military stand point. But I don’t think that JH is only for one purpose. I also think it is in preparation for a big downturn in the economy or a loss of reserve status.


        • M, you’re right on the money.

          There are so many possibilities the list is almost endless. The economy can certainly be the kicker. Thanks for the post and the link.


      5. I used to think Dave Hodges was bogus but not anymore. I’ve already had what Hodges writes about confirmed to me by some sources I have known and trusted for 3 decades. Now Hodges’ site is another one I go to every day. Just like I suspected, everything comes down to the wire this year. Some people still swear up and down, ‘it’s happening in Sept./Oct.’. I never trust anyone who sets dates for any type of event. I still think sometime during summer. I do agree about having weapons ready to go and keep stacking. We still have a long, hot summer to get through.

        • I take Dave Hodges with a grain of salt. I am sure he means well, but the issue is believability. He is right on the cusp. Unfortunately, I do not have anyone o confirm the essential parts of Dave Hodges’ thesis. Is there anything specific you can relate?

        • Dave Hodges is the real deal, he puts his life on the line with every article he writes. no one is right all the time but he has a good track record. Most people don’t want to believe what he says because it means diving into the rabbit hole head first, you may not like what you find. But the TRUTH is the TRUTH, no matter how far fetched it may seem. Keep prepping my friends!

          • I have never noticed him having a particularly good track record, he does write a few OK article now and then though.

            Maybe it depends on how you define “good”.

            In any event, worth reading once in a while but not someone to base your life and actions on.

        • Braveheart

          It is amazing that even for us, things that we used to find to be crazy now are coming to pass. It has gotten to the point that nothing shocks me. I check everywhere I can to find out tidbits of information.

          • Mike in Va, it sure is amazing. Hell, I wish NONE of this was real. I really do dread what’s coming but I know I have no ther choice but to stand and fight. I go everywhere I can also for info but I’ve learned how to determine what sites are reliable and what sites are bogus.

          • Sometimes, what is NOT SAID is the most powerful information.

            I read lots of articles from a wide variety of places. I recognize the perfectly normal slant that ALL sites have. EVERYONE tailors their presentations to their own personal beliefs, to some degree…some more than others.

            The devil really is in the details. I take those small details from several sources and add them together. I temper the bias and slant.

            Then I compare that to my core beliefs about humanity in general. I disregard hatred without reason or definition.

            I don’t believe something, just because it “just is what it is”. It’s almost NEVER what it seems to be.

            The difference between me an a lot of other people, is that I am prepared to AMEND my beliefs if necessary, based on what I ferret out of those sources.

            I do use ONE RULE OF THUMB:

            Whatever the MSM is pushing, it’s pushing it for the elites and that’s good enough reason for me to oppose it. I understand that I’ll NEVER have enough info to ever be sure…so I go with my gut.

            Whatever the Globalist Elites/NWO wants — I DON’T. It doesn’t matter why. It doesn’t matter who else agrees with me. It doesn’t even have to make sense at the moment. There is ALWAYS a bigger picture that I’m not privy to, and never will be.

            All we’ve really got for tools is reason, instinct and rationality. I try not to abuse any of my tools.

        • Dear Braveheart,

          I’m with you. It is virtually impossible to tell when it will go down exactly, but the summer probably has a high potential for it.

          I’ve admired your comments for a long time. You’re another really good guy whom I would enjoy sitting and talking with for hours over some coffee. Keep up the good posts, and you have a good day.



          • JJ, if we ever get the chance to meet, I’d be glad to do so. And I thank you for these articles you’ve been bringing to us. I think you’re right on the money. Take care.

      6. Enjoyed the article, but why is no one reporting on that fact Fox News reported this afternoon that the Senate Dems actually voted against this today?

        • I read that too, but I am kind of thinking that this is just posturing to get some freebees just like many did during Obama Care.
          Many will be giving up their careers by voting for this and they want to be assured of a payoff on the other side. At least that’s my hunch.
          In the end they will pass it though just like all the other ugly legislation.

          • That’s right because those Dems know what all this entails and means for THEIR families. They want a promise before king koon gets their vote.

            • Dear PO’d Patriot,

              No doubt you are 100% correct. Self serving, self aggrandizing jackals, all of them.

              Also, I love the “king koon” moniker. Classic!


              • I like “President Oreo” It fits.

        • Yeah, hard to believe with Elizabeth Warren on the front burner.
          What really worries me is the Republicans were leading the charge to give Obama the power.- reported in the Wall Street Journal.

          • The Republicans have given Obama everything he wants so far while speaking out against him to keep their supporters deceived.

            Look at the track record, what haven’t they given him one way or the other while pretending they’re fighting it?

        • Sailing Jim:

          The demos want MORE…much More included in that bill. That is why their vote.

      7. You got my commentary on it yesterday. As they say, “in politics, there are no coincidences.”

      8. Elizabethtown, NC 5/12/ 15 – There are over 60 people sitting in jail in North Carolina right now despite the fact that they have been declared innocent. Some prisoners are totally unaware of the legal status of their case and don’t know they have been declared innocent, so many are not even fighting for their freedom. It is a federal crime for felons to possess firearms, and while all of the men arrested under these laws did have criminal records, they were not felons.

        Justice Department officials said it is not their job to tell prisoners they might be jailed for something that is not a crime. Although they agree in court filings that the men are innocent, they said they must comply with federal laws that put strict limits on when and how people can challenge their convictions in court. “If someone is innocent, I would think that would change the government’s reaction.” Debra Graves, an assistant federal public defender in Raleigh said

        • I wonder how many of them are preppers, home schoolers, “Tea partiers” or other people who don’t bend when the govt says bend…

      9. Jade Helm, hmm, not sure all I can say as an active duty member of an expeditionary warfare unit is that we “train like we fight and we fight like we train.” So at best JH is a preperation of things to come, at worst a red flag in the making.

        A few years ago I had faith that the Senior Enlisted NCOs would stop/fight against orders that went against fellow Americans. Now, many good Senior Enlisted men have either seen the writing on the wall and have gotten out or have been forced to retire. In their place are pusified, polliticaly correct butt kissers that care more about their careers than they do the men they lead or the country they serve.– My grandfather, who fought in the battle of the bulge must be rolling over in his grave, as that behavior is expected of officers but NOT Senior Enlisted. As it stands, I know of a few other guys in my unit that I totally trust, but our group gets smaller each year.
        I know I for one am disgusted by how far we have sunk as a country. I ask myself how much more I can endure and the answer is mot much. I fear if we endure any more then the great causes that my grandfather, father and countless men and women who have fought, bled and died for will have perished with them. I fear that my own daughters will loose the freedom that this great country once offered and grow up under the heavy hand of Tyranny.
        I am not ignorant to the horrors of war, and the hardships a civil war would bring to this country, yet where do we draw the line and say enough is enough? When do the words “give me liberty or give me death become our rallying cry? And to whom and what standard would we rally? Perhaps that is the most important question of all….

        • G19

          Who will lead us in battle? That is the question.

          • Slingshot: True leaders are found in times of crisis. Until then it is only speculation on who can or will lead. I have faith many will come forward.

            • M

              I don’t mind doing what needs to be done but lately there are many whom I would not even let them lead me to a coffee shop. A drunk would be better.

              There are those who wait their whole life for the opportunity to lead men into battle, while others have it thrust upon them.

            • We would be six years into the correction, but he was too scary. A bankrupt is like a drunk. They have to admit what they are before they can change. The surveillance dragnet searches for the one that will rise.

        • “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin”. Samuel Adams

          Whether you remain in the military or leave, your fellow patriots will need your services. I know it’s not an easy decision, but it is a simple one; Tyranny or Liberty.
          God Bless.

        • Abandon ship, every man for himself.

          • Two people wading in a creek see a grizzly bear coming and one stops to put on his running shoes. The other says you can’t out run a bear. He answered, I just have to out run you.

            • LOL. Very good Gramps. lol.

        • G19
          Your last two paragraphs are the very things I find my mind pondering on nearly every day of the week. What will we be leaving our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren? What kind of world will they be living in? Free? Progressive moral quagmire? I know the national debt can never be repaid, ever. Will they be starved to death or feed by the government rations after a economic collapse? What will happen to the nation after such an event? Will Congress ensure the promises made to Veterans are fulfilled? (I don’t look for that to be answered in the affirmative in any way shape or form, but I do look for them to protect themselves from the masses.)
          The nations Senior NCOs is a concern. As a senior NCO, I am near retirement with over 30 years. I know some could not lead a squad or a platoon to the dinning hall but I see some who will lead with honor and integrity. That is a rare commodity in the Beltway. All that said I offer this prayer; Father in heaven, look with mercy on this nation which was founded my men with honor and integrity that came through the instruction of Your Word. This nation was dedicated to you as a beacon of light and hope that it might be used for the evangelism of the world under the banner of the gospel of Jesus Christ. No not all of our founding father knew you but they sensed the value of your divine instruction and birthed this nation by its precepts. Now Father hear our prayer of repentance. We as a nation have rejected your council to our own harm. We sought to be free of our responsibilities as men to raise up a godly heritage and in doing so enslaved our children to the sin of broken families. We sought to liberate our wives and daughters in the Women’s liberation movement only to be taken captive by Satan through the lust of the flesh and pride of life. We have murdered over 50 million of our sons and daughters through abortion and their shed blood is on our hands. We are covered in shame by thinking we could borrow ourselves into prosperity and now are saddled with a debt that can never be repaid. Oh but your word says if your people who are called by your name would humble themselves, repent and seek forgiveness then You would hear from heaven and come and forgive their sins, heal their lands. Forgive us Father, cover our national and personal shame by the blood of your son Jesus Christ. Send us leaders like the prophets Samuel and Elijah, like your servant King David but earnestly revive us as we look for the appearing of your son Jesus’ return. Forgive us. Save us. Create within us a heart for your heart, your kingdom and to be in service to all mankind but especially those of the household of faith. These things I humbly ask in the name of Jesus. Not on my righteousness do I ask but based upon the righteousness that the redeemed have found in Christ Jesus we ask, Amen

          • You sir, are a rare individual.

            I applaud you first and foremost as a Christian.
            Secondly as a Military Patriot.
            And thirdly, as a fine example to others.

            I have much respect for any outspoken Christian, military or LE member. It takes a true Christian to be a part of this liberalized governing body of cronies today, and be able to separate the two.

            Your prayer should become a template for every prayer spoken, from every household, that claims to be christian based.

            It is now in my archives as such, and also as inspiration that there are a “few” good men and women left in our military/LE.

            Thank you, sir!

            • HR,

              Beautiful prayer and post.

              I agree with passinwiththewind and leagle.

              This prayer needs to be said in every home across the country.

            • I just sent the entire post to my wife with the comment “wow, just wow”…

          • HR, your prayer is much needed and appreciated in this neck of the swamplands. It is a prayer to be repeated in every household in this beloved land of ours. Thank you for sharing yourvthoughts and thank you for your service to this country and your fellow countrymen.

            • Thank you for your kind and gracious words. Be encouraged, God is still on His throne. And remember, Let the redeemed of the Lord say so,(Psalms 107:2).

          • Amen

            • Thank you and to God be the glory.

              • Thank you HK!

          • As a country we face many challenges. Please pray for our country, the people and elected leaders.

            “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.”
            Psalm 33:12

            “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their Land.”
            2 Chronicles 7:14

            Paul Harvey’s “If I were the Devil” Transcript from 1965

            “If I were the devil … If I were the Prince of Darkness, I’d want to engulf the whole world in darkness. And I’d have a third of it’s real estate, and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn’t be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree — Thee.

            So I’d set about however necessary to take over the United States. I’d subvert the churches first — I’d begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: ‘Do as you please.’

            “To the young, I would whisper that ‘The Bible is a myth.’ I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what’s bad is good, and what’s good is ‘square.’ And the old, I would teach to pray, after me, ‘Our Father, which art in Washington…’

            “And then I’d get organized. I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting, so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I’d threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa. I’d pedal narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.

            “If I were the devil I’d soon have families that war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves; until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings I’d have mesmerizing media fanning the flames.

            If I were the devil I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions — just let those run wild, until before you knew it, you’d have to have drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.

            “Within a decade I’d have prisons overflowing, I’d have judges promoting pornography — soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress.

            And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls, and church money. If I were the devil I’d make the symbols of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.

            “If I were the devil I’d take from those who have, and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. And what do you bet? I couldn’t get whole states to promote gambling as thee way to get rich?

            I would caution against extremes and hard work, in Patriotism, in moral conduct. I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun, that what you see on TV is the way to be. And thus I could undress you in public, and I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure.

            In other words, if I were the devil I’d just keep right on doing on what he’s doing. Paul Harvey, good day.”
            – Paul Harvey 1965

            If I Were the Devil – by PAUL HARVEY

          • HR

            Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I say Amen.

          • HR

            That meant so much to me that I am giving it to my son. I pen lieutenants bars on him on Friday. He graduates college that day as well. He enlisted in the guard and went to basic and 11B AIT. I hope this makes him one of the good officers. He so far looks our for his men before he does his self. If he keeps that servant attitude as Jesus did then he will be a good one.

            Thank you so much for that prayer. I can think of no better gift to give to my son.

            • Mike in VA, Thank You sir for those kind and gracious words. Please allow me the privilege to pray here for your son as he goes forward in service to our nation. Father in heaven again I come to you humbled by your grace and your greatness. You Oh Lord are the creator of men as well as the provider for the sins of men a means of redemption through the precious blood of your son Jesus at Calvary. Father, you know the plans you have for Mike’s son plans for good and not evil. Father would you bless him today with wisdom from on high to be a leader of men, men that because of their love for this nation have written a blank check up to and including giving their life for America’s defense and safety. Father, these men serve in a tumultuous time, when our leaders are calling right, wrong and wrong, right. Give them the steel they need to be men of character, honor and integrity: words which many use as empty decorations but have meaning for those who fill their lives with your Word. As a young Lieutenant connect him with NCOs which are not only technically and tactically proficient but whose hands you have taught to fight first from your Word and seek to please you before pleasing their commanders that all things may be done not only descent and in order but to your honor and to your glory. Forge him into a great warrior such that the enemies will fear him in battle and seek peace at the earliest opportunity, yes even before the armies take to the field of battle. And Father lest we forget bless Mike and his son’s mother. Give them a peace that passes all understanding knowing their son first commits himself to You O’ God then commits himself to his men he leads but never forgetting those who labor in the hour of prayer for his safety. Father I and others who name the name of Christ ask all these things in the name that is above every name, Jesus of Nazareth, Amen

              • HR

                I have been on this site for years. I have several friends from this site. We have a small email group. I respect them all.
                I served for 6 years. I was an N.C.O. I instructed my son to listen to them. Especially to the platoon sergeant. He will be a better soldier than I was if he continues with his current attitude. I just wanted you to know that.

                There is one other thing that is more important for me to tell you. Rarely has someone done something that meant as much to me as what you just did. It brought tears to my eyes. I will forever be your friend. If you ever need anything then feel free to ask. My prayers will forever now include you as well. You are an honorable and wise man. People here would be wise to listen to your post. I would be honored to shake your hand one day. May the lords blessing’s be upon you and your family. May he keep you, protect you, and bless you.
                Thank you from the bottom of my heart my friend.

                • Mike in VA
                  May all that you say be richly honored by the Lord.

          • Amen.

        • In their place are pusified, polliticaly correct butt kissers that care more about their careers than they do the men they lead or the country they serve.

          Then they will die.


        • G19

          Your post in one of the best I have seen in a long time. Thank you so much for your service.

          We all come on here and complain. I think we all feel as you do. How much more can we take. I would have thought things would have hit the fan by now. There are just not enough of us currently awake. So many people are just sleeping at the wheel. They have there life and feel that it will never change. We are the great U.S.A. so it will always be that way. They have no understanding of how the real world works. There is and always will be evil that craves power and control in this world. It will be that way until the end.
          I just hope that when the balloon goes up the people asleep will fight. It unfortunately may be too late. If they are hungry then the evil can give them food and control is there’s.
          I just don’t know.

          When it happens I will be one that says liberty or death. I hope that it is our fight to fight and not our children. I fight for all free men and women. I fight for my children. I fight for me. If I cannot be free then I truly would rather meet my maker. There I will have no pain and all joy. It just saddens me so that people have sold there children’s future to money and debt and don’t even realize it.

      10. They just voted down Fast track. Now this thing needs to be reviewed by all of Congress before anything can be done with it. I hope and pray that this thing gets knocked out.

        • Start putting pressure on your Congress person.

          • Kathy we can hope and pray, but along with this, it takes action. Just as jmac say’s we must start putting pressure on our Congress Critters, actually Congress Vermin would be a better term! No wonder Congress always gets such low marks. They always want to shirk their job and give the Executive Branch more power. Trekker Out.

      11. Well, according to a report on The Steve Quayle site, Portable disaster Morgues just ordered to be sent to four states. The video is interesting. It seems that somebody is expecting an event between Missouri and Tennessee(two of the four states).

        • Between Missouri and Tennessee … hmmmm … that would be the Mississippi River. That would be … New Madrid. 🙁

          • Or Memphis, which would be a more likely destination…..wanna lighten the taxpayers’ burden? Start by eliminating the FSA…

          • They are surrounding braveheart. They will microwave his ass before he gets a shot off. Braveheart, you need to bug out in july. early retirement is better than getting stuck in mogudishu.

            • I saw that report on another site last night. The 4 states are MO, AR, TN, and KY. I’ve got another trip scheduled to the BOL in July, but it’s possible I could be bugging out sooner. We’ll see.

      12. A little off topic, but the last article about JH15 sgt dale gave a few hints about his location by saying that the towns police depts to the east and west of his home Morris and ottawa had x amount of equipment. Being a snoop like I am I looked for towns adjacent to those in Illinois and found the town of Marseilles. Looked up their PD page and searched current staff. A “Sgt Dale” was listed as retired staff. A simple google search proves that SHTF’s own sgt dale was all about police state before it was cool. Link provided. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-03-12/news/0103120102_1_gym-class-summary-judgment-boys

        • Thanks for the article RP 1776. After SGT’s post about me being a better writer than Karl Marx; I think he deserves to be outed.

          BJ brought up this subject sometime back and I defended Sgt. Sorry BJ. I was wrong.

          You see it is more important for SGT to be “popular” on SHTF than to do any homework. Jesus was not popular with HIS enemies, and I am not popular with HIS enemies either. At least I can go look in the mirror and know I am not a fool looking for attaboys on a stupid internet blog.

          If SGT reads this he might ask his faithful defender, Braveheart, to school him on the tribe. Braveheart knows the truth, SGT. He did his homework, unlike you.

          Seems like you learned a piece of the Karl Marx manifesto when you bullied those little kids….big man, huh?

          • Thanks POG. Sgt was all for a police state before it was cool. Not an attack on AE but I believ sgt dale is one up on him after stripping that many boys down in a locker room.

          • POG, I always enjoy your posts. I’ve read yours, JQP, Tucker, etc. with interest. My primary concern has always been the agenda that’s being pursued by the globalists. Whether they’re jew or non-jew I don’t care. If/when they get in my crosshairs, they’re history. It’s either freedom or death for me. Like you, I can look into the mirror anytime and know my conscience is clear. I’ve always known my fight will be with the evildoers out there, not anyone on this site.

          • Too bad you don’t use those acute detective skills to “out” some real threats. Is that what we’re doing here? Looking for small hints, to lead us to damning information about people we don’t agree with?

            What a wonderful way to build trust and encourage team work. This isn’t just for Sgt Dale, whom I don’t know from Adam. This is for everyone who might have to trust someone in the future…

            Hey, let’s all just turn on each other now, avoid the rush! I’m sure if we sniff each other long enough, we can smell something on everyone.

            It’s not like we don’t have enough to worry about in current events.

            It’s not like our freedom isn’t on the line and our lives in danger…no, let’s go out into the back yard and dig up some dirty old bones, because settling a score is more important than trying to stop the world we live in from collapsing in on us. You’re worried about stripping some kids down looking for some missing money, WHEN POLICE ARE INDISCRIMINATELY SHOOTING KIDS IN THE BACK THESE DAYS! They are throwing them in jail for chewing a pop tart into an “L” shape that looks like a gun. They are handcuffing toddlers for throwing a tantrum in kindergarten…and you’re worried about a strip search?

            Would it have been more acceptable, to just cuff them all and take them to jail as suspects? Maybe get their criminal record paperwork started before they get out of school?

            Laying people bare on here, because they said something you didn’t like, is vindictive and shows that you can’t be trusted. I’d be afraid you’d get pissed off and turn on your colleagues at the drop of a hat. You’ve just showed us all how far you’ll go to get even.

            It is, however, very important to know who would turn on their own, BEFORE SHTF, so POG and BJ, thanks for that.

            Now we all know.

            Have a nice day.

            I just hate a petty snitch.

            • Are you dumb or just plain stupid?? I’m concerned about the police abusing powers on all levels. It’s because we’ve said its ok that police strip 8th graders down that we are where we are at with then gunning people down now. A death by 1000 cuts approach has eroded our freedoms today. And you bring up trust amongst preppers…I said it in a previous response to my original post that I had no knowledge this was old new to this community. The reason I shared it is so MAYBE it would open someone’s eyes to sgts actions and be careful about sharing certain info with him esp if theyre close to him geographically and thought about setting a meeting to form a group. If he’s a changed man that’s great but many missed my point about my reason behind the sharing of post. And I think you making blind allegations about settling a score. I ain’t bj and don’t know what quarrel he and sarge had in the past. If they were my kids I’d want to know what was going on. The state doesn’t want parents involved. I’d whip their ass after the principal paddled them.
              Are there any other questions concerns or comments that need to be clarified on this subject or can we move on and attempt to help eachother??

              • can’t we all just GIT!???

        • RP1776, I read the article. This is one time that words fail me.

        • Rp1776 or bj or whomever..
          Why the gigging of Sgt.?
          Have you ever done something you regret?
          I know I have, and got 10 times worse than these kids.
          Walk a mile in his shoes, and you might have a different opinion.
          not being an asshole, just think about it…

          • Eppe, you speak the truth, unless we were there, we cannot know what really happened. Just another lawsuit went wrong.

          • It makes one wonder about the sarge. Ex military turned LE.
            Is he all he is cracked up to be?

            Or is he just visiting here as an imposture and spy?

            Maybe he is on the up and up, and just got caught up in the quagmire. We may never know, but his Creator does.

            • if there were any GOOD cops, there wouldn’t be any BAD cops….just sayin’….like was said previously, we have all done things we weren’t really proud of…maybe it SEEMED the right thing to do at the time. how do WE know what REALLY happened, when we weren’t THERE?

          • Ive done many regrettable things in my life eppe, but it’s nothing close to strip searching several dozen 8th graders. He’s from rural town USA, not some inner city slum where he’s dealing with thugs day in and day out. Using his gun for intimidation as well?? He talks on this site as if he’s a beacon of freedom and he went after the most vulnerable part of his community…the children!! He was promoted shortly thereafter. He was part of the police state before it was cool. This was in 99! Way before the hoax of 911 and the buildup of a militarized police force. Maybe he’s changed his ways, but it just shows what power actually does to people.

          • Eppe:

            Gigging of SGT? What about SGT’s gigging of me as a better commie writer than Karl Marx? Shows he has never bothered to read a damned thing about who is really ruining this country and the world. Also shows the degree of his intelligence.

            Shows he just wanted to be in on the “gigging” of truth tellers a couple of subjects back.

            Sad, huh?


            • Also Eppe, KARMA is a bitch.

            • POG
              When did a Call you a better writer than Karl Marx?

              • Yeah Sarg, if you called POG a better writer than Karl Marx, I may have to start questioning your wisdom. Although they do have a lot in common.

              • Sgt. Will you confess if the article is about you? If so, do you admit you were wrong if it happened as written?

          • Eppe

            This is one time I will gladly be the asshole. People that do this to other preppers are just not needed. I would not want them anywhere near me when the shit goes down. I don’t need a knife in my back. They are not trustworthy and that is my litmus test for a true prepper.
            That is my two cents my friend. Hope you have been great.
            Without trust you don’t have anything.
            I tell these few right now ” Go to Hell “

            • While I agree with you and try to keep enough about myself and family private enough that nobody on this site can find me, I can’t help but wonder if this is true, about SGT Dale.

              Using Anon 1970 because even using my first name, though common, could bring in undesired guests. Which is what happened here. Kinda concerns me how easy it was. Sure, I would love to beable to chat/email/get to know other preppers and learn from them. i am sure I am not too far from many people on here. But I am too scared to take a chance. Well, Mac knows I suppose, but he isn’t telling I don’t thin;)

              I know a bad, bad man and when I say bad, I mean he will never walk up my drive and make it to the porch. He has always been cocky and boastful despite the fact that he is very, very guilty. I just bet those that he emails/texts/ has beers with people who would love to know what he has done. Maybe that is something to consider here. If SGT dale isn’t trustworthy, imagine if folks are meeting with him and trusting him, when they shouldn’t.

              I don’t know. I don’t much trust anyone anymore so I may not be seeing this clearly at all.

              • I literally found his location in 3 minutes with a few easy clicks of the mouse. And people meeting with him when they may be aiding an enemy is exactly my point for sharing. If he’s a cop and prior service military he should know a thing or two about opsec. To me by his giving location away that easily seemed too convenient. Almost an invitation for others near his community to look him up. That was my whole take. Seems you understand what I was trying to come up with.

        • RP1776. Nice piece of investigative snoopery. Wonder if Sgt Perv will have the brass neck to post here again? Never trust a pig.

        • Be Sure Your Sin Will Find You Out!

        • Very Interesting….


        • This was all drug through the mud a number of months ago. I believe BJ posted that link back then.

          Maybe he is a disinfo agent. I think there are a few on this board. I dunno.

          My advice is don’t talk about using violence against any .gov official or enforcer on line. The sedition act can be enforced any time along with domestic terrorism. Eric Frein was charged with it. Not for murdering a cop, but for calling for a revolution.

          • Is that about the time Mac stopped posting all the Bad Cop stories on this site?
            I know dam well about a shit ton of Bad Cop stories since than that have NEVER made it on here as stories,, maybe as posts, but not stories

            Was Mac told by “ol SGT to stop it with the Cop crap?

            things that make you wonder

          • To all the above.

            I wasn’t going to respond to this because it is a waist of time with everything that is going on around the world. rp1776 or bj who ever you are today. Stop crying you lost and only got $1.00 not the hundreds of thousands you were told you would get. Some Christian you are. The Lord said to “Forgive”.

            For those who don’t trust me that is Ok. I would have some doubts to.

            This was all hashed out months ago.
            Yes I made a mistake. I try to learn from my mistakes and don’t repeat them.

            By the way you didn’t look far enough into the case. They were suing me for Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars.

            A Jury of my peers found and only gave them 8 dollars that was one ($1.00) per boy. Now if 12 people believed for on minute that this case had any merit these boys would have gotten ONE HELL OF A LOT MORE MONEY! Now don’t you think that 12 people thought that this case was B.S. and only gave them $1.00?

            What I was told was that there Jew attorney told them that they would all be driving new Mustangs to school next year. This was what I was told I don’t know if it was true or not.

            By the way you also saw in the article where I got Promoted to Sgt. That was because I had saved two peoples lives. One was in a burning house were I save a woman that was trapped on the second floor. My action are still causing me pain in lower back, after I caught her when I told her to jump out of the upstairs window. The other was a baby that had quit breathing, and the kids is now in high school doing very well. I also had made around 40 DUI arrest, over 1/2 of the DUI arrest were people I had given rides home in the past. The other were people that had been arrest before for DUI. I also solved several cases in a two year time frame. So I worked for the Stripes, and the Mayor and Commissioner believed that I should be Promoted.

            For those who stood up for me. I say THANK YOU. I know that you only know me from SHTF I will take your kind gesture to heart.

            For those who think I’m leaving? Guess again!


            • I’m thinking he’s definitely some kind of plant here. Based on his defiance to leaving this site, my thinking is he’s staying to gather as much intel as he can for whoever is paying him his 30 pieces of silver. Be careful with this one folks.

              • That’s exactly how stupid finger pointing shit gets started. Nice. Got any PROOF, or is that just your paranoia kicking in?

                • What the HELL are YOU shooting your stupid fucking mouth off about? YOU are ALWAYS posting shit on this board and passing it off as fact. Paranoia? Try your own half baked government is out to git us all nonsense that you have no proof of but tell everybody it’s all a fact. Take a good look in your mirror, you’ll see all the paranoia you’ll need for 3 lifetimes.

                  • Think you hit a nerve there sixpack.

                    Nicely done.

                    • Thanks HT. This shit rolls off me like water off a duck. It does tell me that several of the posters on here, can’t be trusted in the clutch. Let me be clear — THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE DON’T MEAN SHIT TO ME. A useless, vindictive snitch, pocking around for some dirt ain’t no one to put any trust in.

                      Now if Sgt. Dale had shot somebody in the back, raped somebody, stole some dope to resell or something like that, it might be seen a little differently, but the situation wasn’t like that at all.

                      And posting it HERE, isn’t the same as examining it within a group for security reasons. Posters here are spread all across the country, not in the same area.

                      I don’t give a damn what POG or the like think, there was no excuse to post that info here, because most of us didn’t need to know it. If Sgt. Dale was in my group or even just being considered, I WOULD’VE DONE A CHECK MYSELF, just to be sure WHO I WAS DEALING WITH. Since I’m not dealing with Sgt., I DON’T NEED TO KNOW.


                      I don’t think this site is worth a damn anymore, and I sure don’t feel safe here.

                      TOO MANY WANNABE FBIs.

                      Who would’ve thought that anybody would have gone to that much trouble to try to embarrass someone they don’t even actually know?

                      ONLY AN ASSHOLE.

                      I’m done here.

                    • I used to privately email POG because she is also in Oregon. You all wanna know how easy it is to get on POG’s bad side? She sent me a link to some stupid web site where they posted pics of algeal bloom, you know the red shit that turns water red and kills off fish?

                      I asked her not to send me links to those types of sites, because I don’t believe algeal bloom fits in with Revelations and the end of the world theme. I also don’t believe in the “pre-tribulation rapture” thing either.

                      She cursed at me in a return email and said she didn’t want to hear from me anymore. She told me to lose her email address. I DID JUST THAT.

                      So that’s all it takes to piss granny off…just disagree with her once. That’s it.

                      People like her should quit while they’re ahead.

                • Replying further up because there’s no reply below to some of your responses.

                  I’m sorry you had a bad experience with POG. It really is a bummer we can’t all just respect our differences and learn from one another. But, as a woman I really appreciate your perspective and see you have a lot to offer here. So, please don’t quit posting. I’ll use the guilt card a little and add, my very young children are benefitting from your wisdom as I take your advice/suggestions.

                  Long ago, before I had children and I held a cash paying job, I stayed away from the office women. I couldn’t stand the cattiness and malicious crap between them. I think that helped me along in my disgust of feminism.

                  There are females on this site I instinctively want no part of. Thankfully, not many.

            • thanks for the clarification…i suspect that if that was done 50 years ago, you would have received praise from ALL the parents, but today, we got a bunch of “my kid WOULD NEVER do sumthin’ like that” parents. america’s dead….at least the america i GREW UP IN.

              • BCOD,

                I have to say that as a parent I find it really troubling to think that 50 years ago parents would have been ” thankful” to a cop who pulled that type of thing. Nobody I know of would ever think of ” praising” a cop for such disgusting behavior as that. If that is the type of America you grew up in, I’m really thankful that it exists no longer to let any type of authority figure think they can put their hands wherever they damn please on a kids body and claim ” its in the line of duty”.

                • 50 years ago kids were much different. They were disciplined by there parents. Instead today parents claim that it is never there children’s fault no matter what they do. I was more afraid of discipline from my parents then I ever was about discipline from the school or police. That is why I am the man I am today.
                  Today children shoot and stab each other. In my day we gave out black eyes.
                  Big difference.

                  • Mike,

                    I don’t disagree with your post but can’t help but notice that you completely failed to address the concerns that I put forth also so it seems your explanation is somewhat lacking.

            • Funny how you didn’t go into too much detail on the strippin n friskin of young boys! Creepy cop.

            • Sarge, all I’m going to say is what’s done is done and there’s no going back and changing it. Glad to see you learned from your mistake and moved on. And yes, there are much more important things going on and to be concerned with right now. That report about those portable morgues is really a cause for concern. Then New Madrid crossed my mind. What if someone tries to blow the fault? There’s a good chance I could be bugging out early. Time will tell.


            • Restitution and the like are nothing that I am concerned about and shouldn’t be an option…I believe its parents that would seek $$ to help kids cope is the reason the theft probably happened in the first place. Justice of some sort would have been more fitting. The thing that got me about a promotion is that you still had a job to be promoted within after doing that. I will agree that what’s done is done and if you truly are sorry for actions from your past them it’s over. It was new to me that this had been brought up previously in this forum. The reason I posted is because I took a lot of your words and certain advice from here and was totally caught off guard when reading that. Truly no intention to smear anyone’s name, it was done as awarning or caution to other posters or readers of this site. Only God knows our true intentions and repentance of bad decisions.

            • I wasn’t necessarily standing up for you in particular, as mu8ch as I just hate a damned vindictive snitch with nothing better to do than digging up bones and spreading shit because they’re mad.

              Piss on that. There are better things to do with our time.

              • I did not see these posts pertaining to ME from sixpack until last night.

                Just to clarify what she wrote about us emailing each other. She has left out her part of why I have nothing to do with her.

                I received an email about red bloom from someone I trusted. I sent it to sixpack but also sent it to other email friends.

                I forgot to blind copy it to the other friends. Sixpack took it upon herself to send back a remark to me about how stupid that email was and that she did not want to receive such emails. SHE ALSO SENT THAT REMARK TO ALL THE EMAIL FRIENDS THAT I HAD FORGOT TO BLIND COPY.

                THAT IS THE REASON I TOLD HER I WAS THROUGH WITH HER. THAT was a breach of honesty. Writing back to me was okay, sending her remark to the rest of my email contacts was not, that was a breach of TRUST.

                AND, I do NOT believe in the RAPTURE….Just to set that straight.

            • Sgt

              I respect you and what you have done. I don’t judge people from past mistakes. I only care what the man is like at this time in life. You sir are an honorable man and you posting what you just did proves it. I normally don’t get rude with others but the few who are trying to get you to leave are idiots. I would not ever want them around me in a crisis. They are traitors to the cause of preppers. Constantly causing trouble and trying to tear this site apart.
              In person I believe they would not even utter a whimper to your face.
              I say screw um. We don’t need people who do nothing but berate others and hurt the prepper community.
              Thank you for your wisdom and honesty sir.

              • thumb up, mike.

        • I guess that sort of gives new meaning to:

          Aim small. Miss small

        • You are an idiot for posting something like that on this site. Post like that are the reason I am so concerned about what happens to us when we get to the other side of what ever is going to happen.

          We all have to stick together. Not tear each other apart. If we continue with attitudes like this idiot has just shown then we are doomed.

          • Amen Mike…we all need to stand together! God knows the elite love to see us tear each other apart. Everyone has made mistakes before and those who think that they haven’t “really” shouldn’t be sitting in judgement of others!

        • Rp1776:
          My goodness this is so old. Sgt. was not fined or demoted or put on leave or fired or anything else.
          If I remember correctly I think they defendants only receive a couple dollars, I do mean 1 or 2 dollars for there for there troubles, a jury of 12 acquitted him (SGT. Dale) of any wrong doings.
          Don’t judge a person until you know all the fact, You sound like those people in Ferguson, HANDS UP DON’T SHOT..; NEVER HAPPENED.
          To bad you don’t read some other thing that Sgt. Dale has done as a cop. One, saved a woman from a burning building, two, CPR to a man having a heart attack, has several other good thinks that he has done over the years.
          Do us all a favor and try to stay on topic, unless it is real important and current. This old crap is a waste of time.
          S.T.S.F.P. N. Reb

      13. Martin Armstrong from Princeton Economics writes that there will be a Big Bang event in the economy in 2015.75, ie this fall.
        The IMF will be voting on the SDR/new reserve currency being added or a currency being deducted this fall.
        There will be a fourth blood moon this fall, completing the tertad.
        Jade Helm exercise is supposed to end this fall, or maybe go live depending how you look at it and how the economy is.
        Are these all coincidences? Am I crazy for being concerned about this fall?

        • Tec

          I don’t think you are. There are many things happening at the same time this fall.
          Actually all preppers should be a little paranoid at all times.

          There are no coincidences.

      14. Has no one else noticed the similarities between drought affected states and states slated to be a part of ‘Jade Helm 15? Bet an overlay would be close to identical. what’s that you say Beathial; there are no coincidences”? that goes far beyond politics

        • I did…(raises hand). I also think it may have something to do with it.

        • Has anyone noticed that JH is also near the Area of 51, where most of the Unknown Flying objects are photographed/seen?

          Commonly known as the Exxterrestial Highway, there is the Nevada Range and Test Site with the Yucca mountains (nuclear waste repository), and the Nellis Air Force Site, plus a bombing range.

          My favorite place within the “test site” near Yucca Lake is….Jackass Flats. lol. Imagine that city on your postcards to the relatives.

      15. this comment will be WAY off topic…scroll past if you must. anywho, ive been watching (not REALLY listening, but watching and hearing) some big name news tv…ya know, the ones that are fed to us like were rabbits at the water dribbler…and ive heard nothing but war on this, or war on that….i guess this just might end up as a psa on the use of the word “war”, but, who cares….from what ive seen, the word “war” is used in conjunction with a problem that the sheepherders would like us to help them with (read: true fear mongering). such as the war on drugs, police, shifty neighbors, over-zealous patriots. people, good people, who might be reading this, look into the context, the very sentence, the word “war” is used in, and please, try your best with all your cynical intellect to look at what they, whoever they are, might be saying or purposely not saying. yeah, this turned out how i thought it would….not trusting is better than blindly trusting, as im sure most of you know. either way, keep your eyes and mind wide open, like a lady of the night in vegas

        • …it isn’t their minds they’ve got open…

      16. Why in the H_LL did Rand Paul vote YES today ???!!!

        • Flabbergasted:

          Really disheartening, isn’t it?

          Same thing happening with the lauded Ted Cruz. Wife works for Goldman Sachs and was a CFR member. You don’t get closer to being one more DC insider/elitist than that.

          • Because it’s all just theater and ends up in the same place no matter which party is in charge. It’s all about supporting and preserving government, NOT US.

            We are nothing but a resource to keep government running, a funding source, nothing more.

            Once you realize that, it frees you to see them as they truly are, tyrants.

      17. Bird Flu Update

        Avian flu spreads to two more states; more than 32 million birds now affected

        ht tp://www.agri-pulse.com/Avian-flu-spreads-to-two-more-states-more-than-32-million-birds-now-affected-05122015.asp

        this stuff is starting to get some traction

        ya may want to throw a turkey in the freezer now
        unless of course you prefer ham on Thanksgiving !

        • Thanks to your heads-up a few weeks ago, we put up 80 lbs of chicken into chicken corn soup and canned chicken. Also started a batch of eggs in the incubator.

          I ran across your handle on a home-brew blog a few years ago. Make your own?

        • Make sure the bird is cooked well on that special day.

        • The cost of chicken is going up-average is $1.40 per pound now. Eggs will go beyond $2.10 per dozen-and that’s for the “regular ” sized ones.
          Going to check out the costs for powdered eggs. Canned chicken too.
          Be well,

      18. yeah they voted it down’but the dems said they would change there votes for 3 things in bill.1 was that there was a job training program for those that loose there job because of it,they know there will be jobs lost but the basterds would still vote for it!for a stupid job training program!

        • Job Training Program = $$ to their respective districts/states

          $$ to their respective districts/states = kickbacks and more corruption

          seems to go hand in hand these days.

      19. Hey mclovin!! I have both calibers 556 and 308. Both are awesome calibers using ar platforms. It will blow u away the first time u use 308 to put something down. It gets the job done with extreme prejudice. 556 will do the job also. I have both and use both. A good trigger on your rifles is a must. Happy hunting !!! God bless us and make our aim true.

        • Stock up Okie, rifle ammo is going to get real scarce and you’ll need some extra to pass around to the boys who aren’t quite smart ….yet.
          Gonna get real frisky across the South, just hope those Yankee Rebels are ready too. It’s going to be up close and personal, not going to have to travel too far to have a fight on your hands.
          Keep your units around 15 people or so; small enough to not get noticed too much, big enough to lay down some hell, and skedaddle.
          Be where “they” aren’t concentrated, hit em hard between the legs. Don’t defend, get out and about a bit, around and see what’s happening. Just holding up in each individual’s home is the same as suicide.

          • If you’ve got a “unit” of 15 people you’ve got at lest three feds in it.

      20. At this point, I think we are still in the conditioning stage with JH15 and other events similar to it happening nationwide.

        Societies historically roughly break down into thirds in situation like we are experiencing. One third rebels, one third opposes rebellion, and one third floats around on the wind with whoever is winning.

        They are still concentrating on the two thirds not rebelling. The useful idiots. The ones easily influenced and manipulated. They already know we aren’t buying their crap so why was resources trying to convince us.

        JH15 is meant to show them, the useful idiots, that it is useless to resist. See we can get to you anytime we want so it’s futile to resist. We are all powerful, just acknowledge it and go back to sleep now.

        It’s also meant to get them used to seeing military on their streets to desensitize them and put them back to sleep.

        Of course, it also prepositions a lot of hardware in areas they know will have to be pacified once things go hot.

        I don’t think they are ready to move yet, not quite enough cover for them but all that it would require would be some “crisis” either real or created.

        It IS going to happen sooner or later. They are not expending all this effort for nothing. The military trains as it’s going to fight and they are training for martial law. What remains to be seen is how much the military will support it long term once they realize they have been used. Either way, it ain’t gonna be pretty.

        • LordChamp:

          Great post! Thanks!

          • You’re welcome.

            We’ve got to all see this from all sides to be able to make the best decisions for ourselves, our families, our communities, and ultimately our Country.

            I also encourage you to never trust what I or anyone else says, read and research for yourself.

        • Dear Lordchamp,

          You’re right on the mark. Great comments and excellent observations. You know your history. Keep up the good work!


      21. gee
        I wonder how things will play out in the big cities WTSHTF ??????

        The Faces Of Baltimore You Won’t See In The News

        ht tp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-12/face-baltimore-you-wont-see-news

      22. Thanks for the good advice Gen Early. I pray we have warning before they start the night raids, so we aren’t caught unaware sleeping in our beds. God bless you God is on our side I piggy the poor souls who wage war against God’s children.

      23. Meant to say pitty. Dang spell correct. Lol

        • not trying to be a spelling Nazi, but it’s pity, with one y. that’s why auto correct is getting you. Damn I hate spelling Nazi’s but I just had to point that out. sorry. Btw, I kind of thought piggy the fool had a certain je ne sais quoi

      24. great piece by John Whitehead

        ‘We the People’ Need to Circle the Wagons: The Government Is on the Warpath

        ht tp://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/05/12/we-the-people-need-to-circle-the-wagons-the-government-is-on-the-warpath/

        “Once again we’re forced to navigate hostile terrain, unsure of how to protect ourselves and our loved ones from militarized police, weaponized drones, fusion centers, Stingray devices, SWAT team raids, the ongoing military drills on American soil, the government stockpiling of ammunition, the erection of mass detention centers across the country, and all other manner of abuses.

        Read the smoke signals, and the warning is clear: It’s time to circle the wagons, folks. The government is on the warpath, and if we are to have any hope of surviving whatever is coming at us, we’ll need to keep our wits about us and present a unified front. Most of all, we need to restore “we the people” to our rightful place at the center of government. How we do that depends largely on each community’s willingness to get past their partisan politics and blind allegiance to uniformed government officials and find common ground.”


        • And we can’t do that, if we spend our time digging up dirt to spawn distrust amongst ourselves. Finger pointing does not serve us well.

      25. Congress abdicating its authority in favor of the Executive is an illegitimate move. Even if Congress voted 535 to zip in favor, there are only TWO legitimate ways to amend the Constitution which grants both Congress and the Executive their authority. No vote they take, no proposition they assent to, can change the bones and sinews of the government. Any result to the contrary is illegal and to be ignored.

        While i have, in Iosef Stalin’s astute insight, exactly zero divisions with which to back it up, we can afford to ignore any treaty or super-duper power grab. It is illegitimate. It is illegal. It doesn’t matter WHO says otherwise.

        Ultimately our freedom is going to redound to what each of us is willing to submit to, what usurpation we are going to bow down to.

        I don’t care what is written on anyone’s hastily enacted piece of paper. My rights aren’t a gift from government. Ultimately, my decision may be: to die kneeling in front of a ditch. Or to abide by one of the best movie lines of all time: you have your honor again. Let me die with mine.

        I am more afraid of dying dishonorably than I am of dying. I will not submit to any piece of paper, any assembly stating that henceforth I am a slave.

        • Dear JA,

          I couldn’t agree with you more. Your last two sentences in your comment are my heart.

          With you all the way.


      26. wow
        Orlov is pissed
        whether you agree or disagree with him
        this is certainly a thought provoking piece

        America’s Achilles’ Heel

        h ttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-12/americas-achilles-heel

        “Instead of collapsing quietly, the US has decided to pick a fight with Russia. It appears to have already lost the fight, but a question remains: How many more countries will the US manage to destroy before the reality of its inevitable defeat and disintegration finally catches up with it?”

        “The Russian plan, along with China, India, and much of the rest of the world, is to prepare for war with the US, but to do everything possible to avoid it”

        • Ezekiel 38:4
          And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords;

          This current administration of the USSAG, has been set up and is being used as the proverbial “hooks” to draw Russia and it’s evil federation of armies into a false sense of superiority.
          They will come against the “house of Israel” = North America in these latter days, into the lands of “unwalled villages(cities)”, that are dwelling safely.

          Not the nation of Israel, for it has many walled villages and has never dwelled safely within those walled cities.

          Important points to ponder…Eze 38:19
          For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

          The great shaking may be a literal one which spells…earthquakes. New Madrid, maybe?

          Eze 38:21
          And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man’s sword shall be against his brother.

          Does this spell….civil unrest…riots…civil war?

          There is something brewing in the air, and it isn’t just the stench of Fukushima soup coming from the Pacific Ocean.

          Prep and Pray, or Piss and Moan, cause it is coming soon.

      27. We are now literally 3 to 4 weeks out from the civil revolutionary war..I think it’s possible that close now or by Juky. I am not even going to waste time responding to this new post. But then again, do these jackazz elite thing that this is going to be a cake walk. What Lord champ just posted is exactly what Joe Biggs said in infowars and literally that this is not a drill.

      28. Just noticed the Sgt Dale comment. Its time for him to respond before jumping to any conclusions because a lot of people who worked in law enforcement have woken up and realized what they were involved with. A Lot of them retired and basically decided to side with the People. I am hoping this might be the case. I am not trying to back him up, just saying..if the facts are true about that poster, talk about betrayal. This would not be a good thing. We have a lot of fakes, and I have come under attack by a few of them recently trying to call BS in my factual information.

        • I cant help myself. Ill never trust a parasite who wears or has worn a badge. They where or are nothing more than paid enforcers. Serve & Protect is a big lie. They are revenue generators. they allowed themselves to be bought and used for enforcing tyranny.

        • HCKS< I know the feeling. BTW, the fakes are known as trolls. I get attacked by trolls a lot, but they can't refute any info I put out.

        • It’s factual all right, just read the article posted in the link by 1776’s post and see for yourself if it isn’t true. Yes, maybe the court didn’t award any money damages to the kids, but that’s no surprise either. Small town with little revenue isn’t about to award anybody much of anything if they have the slightest chance of avoiding it.

      29. …with the exception of one excerpt addressing borders…this is a fascinating speech.
        A question was asked…who will lead the Great American Patriot War?
        The answer is …we all will. The moment will be profound for all of us and we will all do our part…whether recognized or not.,because we do this not for us..but so that every preceding generation will always know Liberty and Freedom. As the formulation of JH15 is set in place…it is no different then when advisors were sent to assist the requesting government for training. This time…they can do it in our country, prepositioning under the guise of an exercise….when they get the call to go live…everything will be in place for a early logistical advantage….the shock and awe routine will lead to a free all into anarchy ..they will have a short window to implement their goals…but it won’t last more than a week…
        When those who govern by consent..betray those that gave their consent…
        The consenters will respond to that betrayal…when all discourse has failed.

        Thank you Jeremiah for that shout out..!

        Live Free or Die…July 4,1776


        • Dear Talon,

          You’re welcome, but it is I who must thank you, sir. Your comments are the air I breathe. You’re spot on, and when the time comes I would be honored to fight alongside of you.

          I love that line in “The Patriot,” stating, “An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights just as easily as a king.”

          Seems to me we need neither king nor pseudo-legislature at this stage of the game.

          You keep fighting the good fight. 1776 is in my heart, every second.

          De Oppresso Liber, brother, and may God help all of us.

          Respectfully Yours,


      30. A couple of things that I wanted to point out. In the coming eventual shit storm we will need everyone possible to opposed these people, and we cannot afford to throw away half of the population on ideology. By using ditto-head rants about “liberals” we are doing exactly what TPTB want, divide us and keep us from realizing that we have more in common than we do different. It is the same groups ultimately that control the Dems/Liberals/Neolibs who control the Repubs/Conservatives/Neocons. The same people who ultimately control Liberal mainstream media also control Conservative mainstream media. Obama takes his orders from the same folks who gave both Bushes and Clinton theirs. We cannot afford this false ideology now. A quick proof was when the gov’t was screaming that they were going to bomb Syria, and across party lines the mass of Americans said HELL NO!!! That kind of thing really scares TPTB. It was less than 2 weeks before the Repubs & Dem started one of their partisan spats that each owned media pumped up to keep us divided.

        Second thing, the way that these psyops and false flags have worked of late seems to indicate that TPTB place a drill at the site of a likely event (9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, etc.) BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN AN EVENT WILL OCCUR. The placement and resources expended seems to indicate that someone(s) believe something will happen. If it doesn’t happen, then the psyops portion has been served, to condition the population for these events,k and to rehearse those to carry it out.

        With that in mind, it becomes a difficult task alerting the masses about these things, since if making many people aware thwarts the attack (i.e. nuke at the superbowl) then the masses feel like it was just “crazy conspiracy talk”. No amount of explaining after the fact will convince them that the event not happening was exactly the desired outcome. Keep this in mind when spreading info the the unaware – be sure to put in at the start that part of making people aware is to AVERT the event, and the other is that if the event happens, that people become aware of what the real cause was.

        Third, the point about the water shortages and Jade Helm areas is well taken. Before the drought started in California, they privatized their dams to Warren Buffet. Over on http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/sanjoaquin.html he has been tracking how the dams were being drained nearly non-stop. For the first several years of the reported drought, local residents would ask, “What drought? We’re getting the usual amount of rain.” But that allowed the massive drainage of water so that now that the real drought is here, that reserve water is gone. And what is the best way to control a population? To be the only source of food.

        Lastly I was genuinely surprised to see a “Like on Facebook” link here, since they all grab info and report it back to Facebook: what sites you have visited, what tabs you have open, and it dump it all back into your main profile info the next time you are on Facebook, whether you are logged in or not. Likely the other “Like on” buttons collect similar info. I image that will be one of the first sources to be hoovered up by the gov’t in times of trouble.

        • Ezekiel:

          Thanks for the post and THANKS for the Jim Stone link.

        • Dear Ezekiel,

          You are correct, Sir, and your comments are both profound and profoundly in-depth. I believe strongly in doing the best that can be done each day to let people know what can happen. The choice of whether or not they want to listen is up to them. Also, thanks for the link.

          I appreciate your words and your time spent to inform us of these things. Thank you very much!



      31. One of the first problems they’ve got is too few numbers. Even a half-million troops across such a huge swathe of land where many people with weapons live who know the terrain. The US military couldn’t take Iraq and Afghanistan with air supremacy, satellite and electronic intel and torture, getting bitch-slapped by rebels armed with AK47s who had to cross the mountains on foot.

        The US elite think they can win but the US military has proved it has an inferior General Staff, probably because they’re yes-men. Not since WWII has the US had able generals and admirals.

        • Able generals and admirals? They just followed orders… orders given from a man that was led into the matter by the controllers, who by the way are the ones that financed both sides of the conflict. It put the entire world in debt to whom? The controllers that created the conflict. Sure they were capable officers. But ultimately, HoodedHeretic was correct regarding blame… partly. Woodrow Wilson signed-off on allowing the controllers to create the fiat money system, and they’ve been in control since. And every sumbitch that has “served” in the office of president is complicit. Question is not how we got here, but how do we correct it? The first thing that every man/woman must do is become awake to the scheme/scam. Then act, not react. If they have committed crimes, they must be held accountable. Perhaps financially? Isn’t that how they implement control?

          • Only 1 President does not fit that account. JFK. He tried to shut down the federal reserve and wanted to disband the CIA.

            IT COST HIM HIS LIFE.

            ht tp://humansarefree.com/2013/11/jfk-killed-after-shutting-down.html

            ht tps://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol45no5/html/v45i5a02p.htm

            ht tp://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/john-f-kennedys-vision-of-peace-20131120

        • The difference here though is that the military will be protecting the elites directly and if they fail the elites will suffer. That cannot be allowed at all costs. Human or resource costs will not matter.

          That means the gloves will come off.

          No protecting civilians as in the middle east with restrictive rules of engagement.

          Citizens will be their targets.

          The biggest reason for failure of the military overseas is civilian control and micromanagement, not the capability for victory.

          None of that will exist on US soil because the elites will be protecting THEIR backsides. It will be vicious as all internal wars are.

          Look at our own war of northern aggression for a good example of our ability to be vicious to our own people.

          The ONLY thing that might mute their response eventually will be public opinion. It will all depend on how well they can manage the publicity and propaganda to keep the hearts and minds of the useful idiots.

          If they lose that battle, they lose the war.

          That’s why once they spring full martial law, the internet will be locked down most likely.

      32. tie up the loose ends folks,things are getting freaky.

      33. tie up the loose ends folks,things are getting freaky.

      34. Hmmmmm, a two fer….bonus points?

      35. Amtrak is gonna get sued they are owned by federal gov so far 6 dead. The victims will get paid nicely if they get the right legal representation.

      36. I hate to say this but nobody out there wants to hear the truth, Everyone wants their own version of the truth.

        My question is this: does anyone out there truly know what’s going on?

        the way I see it is this, we(when I say that, I mean every single person on this planet), are being put into a situation that will bring forth a fix, to a singular problem, and that problem is US.

        Every thing that is about to happen will either make us stronger or kill everyone.


        That is the first problem, the second is Man has got to come to terms that there are other forms of life that are just as important as our self’s out there.


        But how many people out there will say they know everything.

        One thing I have found is that the more I learn, the dumber I get, being I learn one thing and find out that there are two more things to learn from the original one thing I learned.

        This I will say with full knowledge and truth, Everyone can do anything they want, no matter how hard it is, as long as THEY put their minds to it.

        As for prepping or being prepared, anything you have, minus one thing, can and in the future will be taken away from you. The one thing that can’t be taken, is the stuff that is in your head.
        Knowledge is the one true form of currency.
        Now look at the ways schools are changing?
        Students are they getting smarter or dumber?

        The one thing I have asked many people around where I live is: WHY IS IT THAT I HAVE MORE CONFIDENSE IN YOU THAN YOU HAVE IN YOURSELF?


        You have to be good, before WE can be good.

        • True Reality,

          Your words are both true, and they are reality. I agree with every point you made. I’m going to keep them in mind. Thank you.



      37. Lots of information out there. Some real, some fake. What info do we believe. How and when do we respond to the info.

        So what do you do?

        Trust your instincts.

        The only control you have is that which is in your sphere of influence.

      38. Jade Helm is no more than prepositioning/presaging equipment before an expected event. If all the equipment that is being reported to be moving into the Southwest is true then there is way too much for just an excises with no more troops than are said to be participating. In doing so, my concern is why the Southwest not everywhere Hmmm. The mass of stuff to me just paints a big bull’s eye on that area. The government; is preparing for, I feel an event East and/or North of that area, be it manmade or natural something big is going to happen soon. Keep eyes wide open and all ears to the ground, because the people need INTEL and more INTEL!

        Now for what round and weapon system I feel is right. For me it is a MBR in 7.62×51, M1A, FN-FAL, or G-3, M1 Garand (30-06/308) or even a bolt gun (308,30-06,762.54R etc.,) period (for my thinking). AK, AR, M1 Carbine etc. are fine systems and have their place in the scheme of things don’t get me wrong. I have used the AR system and it has saved my life in combat, but a system that SHITS where it EATS is bound to fail when and where you need it the most (I have seen that more than once), again this is my experience with it. If you must use it CLEAN AND CLEAN it again and keep it that way. Having said all that know what you plan to use and know it like the back of your hand and above all have faith in it to save your life when needed.

        The old saying: “Red sky in the morning sailors takes WARNING-Red sky at night sailor’s delight”, friend’s all the mornings from now on are RED. Please get your lives and those of your love ones in ORDER NOW after the minute you read this just may be too late.

        Copperhead; just a crazy old man.

        • Dear Copperhead,

          You are spot-on 100%, and I’m just as crazy as you are. The time to obtain intel was yesterday, and what you wrote emphasizes the urgency of the moment, good Sir.

          And if that piece isn’t clean, it’s as good as a death sentence. Spot on, Copperhead! Spot on, Sir!

          With you all the way,


          • Many thanks JJ. You sir are one of few that is trying to wake the mass’ up to what is really happening in the U. S. and the rest of the world. There is so much SH~T going on that it just doesn’t make sense. Our end draws near.

            Again THANKS!!!!

      39. I believe it to be Patriotic to advocate for the restoration of our God given rights while confining the scope of govt to a decidedly limited form of which it was originally intended. Gird yourself to withstand false attacks and slandering that we are somehow “unpatriotic” for being truly Patriotic.

        Understand the opponents tactics and long term goal. The tactics are to throw as many issues at the populace to wear them down.

        Marginalize them, pit them against each other to keep them from aligning, distract them, create and foster a constant state of fear and hysteria,

        This war of the elite regime is really against GOD as the Founder’s argued and built this nations govt upon the cornerstone that we have inalienable GOD given rights.

        This global elite cabal detest GOD and to achieve it’s destructive plan it must vilify & destroy Christianity to remove and reduce any reference to GOD. Recognize this and it opens the door to understanding the evil spirit at work.

        The TPP is the further deliberate dismantling of America’s manufacturing infrastructure and offshoring of jobs for multinational corp’s best interests.
        This TPP and other trade deals are designed to be a future problem in which they have a solution already preplanned that will remove national sovereignty and create the Global govt the elites seek.

        They have to first bring global misery and starvation that people will trade in guns for “food and peace”. Just don’t get on the rail car or bus…

        Recent report of Mil and LE swat type training in SC. This is nothing new ALL Tier 1 spec ops send soldiers to train with local and large City SWAT teams performing live warrant arrests. Known for a fact. There have been civilians killed by mil personnel who have been assigned and utilized on actual warrant arrest raids in which shots were fired. No joke.

        The expansion of Mil training outside US bases is not for overseas just as the Patriot Act is anything but Patriotic.

        Conditioning of the populace, psyops, and dry runs for Go time. Jeremiah you should know these are truly snatch HVT mission training. This is a cloak that actual snatches may occur during training. Perfect cover for when people might actually disappear. I can hear press statements now “He volunteered as a role player. Want to see his email?… We can’t divulge where he is but he is still playing the role of a govt hostage”… We mean role player”
        Revelation is truly the best resource to understand what is happening and why it’s happening. Evil is unleashed upon this world more and more each day. Keep the faith draw nearer to GOD.

        • DRT:

          Revelation is unfolding before our very eyes. Thanks for your post.

      40. It would seem the pieces are being aligned on the board. The American culture of Xbox and cable tv has been a useful tool to pacify the masses. The muti-generational welfare system useful to take away the dignity and make dependent those it claims to help. The race baiting useful to divide a the country into warring factions. The destruction of the countries Christian foundation into one that supports abortion and same sex marriage. A system of government that now it would appear seems to have it’s own agenda “independent of the will of the people” and it’s constitutional beginnings.
        No man lives forever, start getting in shape now physically. The American Dream IS NOT DEAD.
        It slumbers in the heart of every true son and should I be called on to remain true to the God and country, I shall not be found wanting.
        Find Christ, be strong for our children and grandchildren…

      41. I believe the breakdown of America (spiritually, morally, educationally, physically, etc.) has been in progress for a long time.

        America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
        –Abraham Lincoln

        “Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.”
        -Edmund Burke

        The Communist Takeover Of America – 45 Declared Goals (1963)

      42. The TPP is most likely a done deal even though some whimpers of opposition are being voiced, not enough people uproar to slow the enactment down. Like NAFTA and the other anti American trade deals, it doesn’t matter what the American people think. Those so called “free trade” debacles fleeced this nation’s jobs, never to return unless wages plummet down to severe poverty levels. There was next to no opposition to the raping of jobs then, none is sincere now. All of the details kept secret. I don’t think enough of the American people will ever wake up to even slow down the tyranny. Sugar daddy just smiles as the slow kill advances.

      43. I’ve long held the belief that there is a master plan to surrender sovereignty of the US to the UN. FDR began this process when he insisted on establishing the UN as a condition to joining WWII. Over the years the plan has evolved into what we see today with both political parties playing their part behind closed doors.

        Parts of the plan can be easily identified if you are looking for them. State Department publication 7277 dated 1961, the Patriot Act, NDAA, executive order 13603, Agenda 21, UN small arms treaty, etc. What ties all of these together is disarmament of the US population and repeal of the US Constitution.

        American citizens have been the proverbial frog in the pot since the war of northern aggression. The heat has been gradually increased over the years until the citizens became used to the omnipresent federal government being involved with every aspect of life. Since 2008 the heat has been jack up at an ever increasing rate. The socialist regime believes that they are invincible and are entering their end game. We are facing a summer of shock and awe as the government moves their pawns into position. Look for a wave of false flags and actual attacks.

        • Ishimo may be correct. however there is one thing that’s importiant to remember. No plan is fool proof. Eventually good always prevails over evil. Good attracts the help of divine intervention. Bad attracts the wrath of divine intervention. Remember the storm that sunk the Spanish Armada. Remember the rag tag backwoods men who defeated the superior british forces at Kings Mountian. Remember Cornwallis getting mired down in the swamp. there are thousands of examples. Most here will likely perish. But heck we all die sometime. Better to die for a worthy cause being a free man than to cower and succumb to Tyranny. Its our grandchildren and the grandchildren of others who have the most to lose. We need to be determined to do whatever is deemed necessary to preserve their future. If we all do our part it will come out OK in the end.

        • Dear Ishimo,

          I concur wholeheartedly. I also believe the summer will be the greatest probable time for kickoff.

          Excellent points. All that needs to be done is cross-reference what they have already told us they would do. Spot on.

          Thank you for your comments. Keep fighting that good fight!


      44. I guess I will jump in with what conclusions I have come to.

        I follow all the sites mentioned above, and this one of course. I do so to learn from them and all of you the information I need to plan the future of my family. I am also a skeptic about everything, I trust no one who claims to be an authority on anything, so I try to see a consensus or a preponderance of evidence before I draw conclusions. Sources like this one help me do just that.

        I also follow mainstream economic news very closely, looking for cracks in the BS so I can at least try to preserve my retirement – and I do understand it may become worthless in spite of my efforts. Even among the mainstream pundits, a major economic crash is a near certainty and looks like it will be this year. The “market” is made up of sheep who either have normalcy bias, or are just plain clueless.They believe the stock market will always go up. Right now, the economy is being sustained on pure BS coming from the media and the regime, and the fact that because of near zero interest rates, stocks and bonds are the ONLY way to get any kind of return on investment, despite the risk. This may or may not be intentional, but it is a fact that is a big problem regardless of the cause. Stock brokers know this, but remember they get a commission by selling more and if they tell all their clients to get out of stocks they have no income. It is no secret that it is all a giant scam at this point. If there is one sure thing about all the various possibilities we all are tracking, economic collapse is it, and it will happen in an instant as soon as the wizard behind the curtain is revealed.

        As far as Jade Helm goes, for me it is obviously suspect because of the “joint” or Interagency (IA) aspect. FEMA, the FBI and local law enforcement are involved, which are only present here in the US. They are not deployed overseas, so there is obviously no reason whatsoever for them to train with US military for “joint” operations unless they plan to work together here. As we know, it is illegal for the US military to even be involved in internal operations. I therefore have little doubt that Jade Helm is not just a routine training exercise, I must conclude they they are preparing for some sort of domestic disturbance. What, exactly, is what I am trying to sift out of all the available information.

        The TPP is also very suspect, due to the secrecy and the unholy alliance between Obama and the GOP, among other things.

        So, even as a skeptic I am convinced that there will at the very least be economic chaos in the near term which will certainly lead to social chaos. I feel that this is being prepared for by the Government, as would be prudent in any case be it a planned collapse or just a result of stupid policy.

        Of course there are MANY other things going on that are unprecedented, such as the obvious effort to provoke racial violence, the obvious collusion between the political parties, and the fact that no one seems to be interested in the Constitution any more regardless of party.

        Thanks for all you do.

        • Dear AndyNY,

          You’re welcome..and I thank you for your comments and observations. Your way is a good one and very similar to my own. Skepticism is absolutely neccessary to be able to weigh and consider all things that may be beneficial or not.

          They are measuring us up for the “Sunday punch,” so to speak. The big thing is that (as you mentioned) all of this should be illegal; now, the Warner Act destroyed Posse Comitatus and the NDAA made even the U.S. part of the “world battlefield.” For them it is all about the color of law and creating loopholes through which they can slip (or slither, more truthfully).

          You keep going and sift everything. That is the key to good intelligence because good intelligence is not found…it’s made.

          Thank you so much for your words, and you hang in there. Have a great day!



      45. “The government is merely a servant―merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn’t. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.” ― Mark Twain

      46. J J’s initial article about TPP is excellent. But the thread following is most thought provoking. When the Great Book is opened, each of us will have to give an accounting of what we did–or didn’t– do in life. Be of great courage.

        • Dear Borodino,

          I most humbly concur, Sir. May God have mercy on all of us…those who have done wrong…and those of us who have allowed it to be.

          Respectfully Yours,


      47. Survivors sing Requiem. Victors write it. To the Author, you have come a long way Pilgrim. Nice head of hair.

      48. Total destruction of wealth is coming … It’s the final phase of the Cloward-Piven strategy, which is collapse of the system.

        I Cannot tell if people are sleeping, blind, or just otherwise just don’t wish to see the disaster that awaits us all. Have our watchmen have fallen asleep? Or More likely distracted and drunk chasing anything wearing a skirt?

        • Dear Nlightened2,

          You mention a truth that many have forgotten…all of this has been outlined in Cloward-Piven down to the smallest details.

          A few years ago Glenn Beck put out a number of spots detailing the whole thing about Cloward-Piven, and the links with Van Jones, the Weather Underground (today), and the statist objectives.

          I think that many people do not care until it affects them visibly…right where they can see it.

          But as far as the watchmen? Look to the comments…that would be you, and the others, and I hope, myself. For the watchman’s voice to be heard, the ears must be willing to listen.

          Keep fighting the good fight and trying your best.

          Respectfully Yours,


      49. This trade agreement (treaty?) will be the straw that broke the camels back. It will be the final deal that prevents any American college grad from getting a good paying job. There will be exceptions to the rule. But the exception to the rule makes and supports the rule. The standard of living in the US will be so low that whatever is left of the middle class will finally be wiped out. The flood gates of cheap labor from Asia will be thrown open and the demographics of the US will be forever changed. Adios America. Adios.

      50. Where’s our sixpack? Hope all’s well ma’am.

        • I went fishing for the weekend! I practiced setting up my tent and figured out how to get to the river bank, even with my disabilities. I got a chance to use my crossbow and damn, is it powerful. I got a pair of decent catfishes and a few toss-backs, but hey, the drinks were cold and the fire was warm!

          I now have a better idea of what adjustments I need to make to my BOB. I also have a better idea of what my physical limitations are now. All of that is useful info.

          Thanks for thinking of me!

          • And a special thanks to Dave from Idaho, that fishing pole you gave me is perfect!

          • You’re welcome. Glad to have you back safe n sound and a little wiser.

          • Compound bow?

            My daughter loves her recurve but I am interested in a compound.

      51. http://www.eutimes.net/2015/05/renegade-us-spy-who-warned-russia-of-war-put-in-mental-hospital-by-obama/

        Renegade US Spy Who Warned Russia Of War Put In Mental Hospital By Obama

        Posted by EU Times on May 7th, 2015

        The Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is reporting today that a “renegade” American spy who approached a Federation Embassy official in Washington D.C. last week and provided documentation she claimed “proved” the United States was intending to start a massive global war has been placed incommunicado in a mental hospital under secret orders issued by President Barack Obama.

        According to this report, on 30 April, a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent named Tunisia Davis approached the Federation Chancery (located on Wisconsin Ave., NW, Washington D.C.), identified herself to a Senior Counselor as being an internal domestic intelligence agent of the United States, warned that the Obama regime was planning an “imminent” false flag “incident” in order to provoke a global war and mass insurrection within America itself, handed to the Senior Counselor a “large” package of National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) [aka: NSA] documents she claimed proved her accusations, and then left without any further comment.

        • A prime example of what you get when you stand up for what you believe, but it’s better do die on your feet than, well, you know the rest.

      52. Do I think they are related? I think they are practicing to make sure things go off without a hitch. I think they know that if they fail that the fallout will bring them down.

      53. Special Forces Train With Cops For House to House Raids

        ht tp://www.prisonplanet.com/special-forces-train-with-cops-for-house-to-house-raids.html

      54. I think the ‘protected’ members implementing JH– if this JH goes down in those states mentioned– will have special ‘shields’ like policeman shields.
        Sadly though, those traitors implementing this that ARE TOLD they will be protected, will NOT be given shields.

        Any thoughts???

      55. USA and the slide into totalitarianism

      56. If your in the city get out or you will be zapped microwaves on the move go under ground

      57. Of course they’re related! “Jade” is the Imperial gem of China. It’s a not-too-veiled name for an operation to dry-run the contingencies for “inviting” and invasion by “our” Communist Chinese landlords to take possession of their collateral pledged to them by “our” representatives to bail out their elite Big Businesses who failed by their own economic incest of being the only business allowed. The Communist Chinese government owns legal title to the “full faith and credit of the United States” (territorial sovereignty) that “our” representatives signed our names to for the billions, backed by many layers of derivative billions borrowed from the Communist Chinese who were made rich by Americans’ relentless purchases of “Made in China”, made, that is, by coolie slave labor who work for nothing in Communist-ruled China for the Big Business-only bosses who laid off the Americans for expecting rights as laborers. Get ready to surrender to that work “ethic” or, as many will deem imperative, dismantle civilization that makes elitism possible– for good.

      58. JJ – thank you AGAIN for a great article! What is happening is a GIANT snowball from HELL that is demonstrating the law of ACCELERATING ACCELERATION – the faster this monster moves ALL OF US towards the “end stage”, the faster the “end stage” moves towards ALL OF US. We can kick and scream and protest and make all kinds of grand gesture threats – but the “end stage” is still coming at us like a nuclear train from HELL – and there is no stopping it. With that cheery thought to contemplate, I still am asking JJ if moving anywhere is even worth it, will it make any kind of difference because of Agenda 21 and the EPA and the Rural Council – we can prepare and educate ourselves, but is there anywhere really where we can have any kind of freedom or life in the USA? I would sure LOVE to see an article addressing THAT subject … thank you!!

        • Dear EA,

          Just hang in there; I actually posted the article on strategic relocation and dedicated it to you.

          I posted it last Thur, and Mac hasn’t put it up on the site yet.

          Be patient! He’ll put it up really soon, I’m sure.

          You have a great day.



      59. We waste too much time discussing what is going to happen by the end of this year. Nobody is talking about how we are going to work around the problems that will arise. How about an EMP? Not out of the realm of possibilities. Everything will be in place, FOR THEM.

        Have you notice that it is mostly the old fat fuddy duddies that are preparing. And you Macho Guys are being out done by the Ladies. Hahaha!

        • In anything but the short term, what you know how to do will be far more important than the stuff you have hidden away.

          Can you imagine any lengthy scenario where, say, a Dentist would end up on the losing end of the scale? Or a high quality brewer or baker or butcher?

          A good blacksmith makes a good living even now, and will be a very important and essential person after a total collapse should one actually arrive some day.

          Maybe we should be discussing what are the best skills to acquire instead of what kind of guns will be best to kill our neighbors?

          Some of the best advice I’ve ever been given: Anticipate the worst that can happen to you and go to work to make it better.

          • Dear Anonymous,

            As I have mentioned before, this “nightclub singer” (writer) does requests! Point well taken, and just for you, I will do a piece on needed skills post SHTF! I will dedicate it to you, with your comment ID on it to personalize it…so you’re anonymous but know your not anonymous to yourself…guaranteeing your anonymity, my friend anonymous!

            Respectfully (and cheerfully) Yours,


      60. Here’s my two cents. Nike obviously donated a ton of money to Obama or else he wouldn’t be interested in sticking up for their interests. However, the real johns are the banks and the real pimps and hos are the government officials who allow the bank-drafted laws to be “bought” and legitimized. The watering down of Dodd Frank is pathetic. I have done a number of doc review projects in nyc and I can tell you what I’m truly worried about, the proliferation of imaginary money and products by the top five banks in this country. They signed multi billion dollar settlements in the RMBS litigation because they didn’t want the truth to get out. The truth was that they had simply made up stuff out of thin air so they could make real money off of it. After several doc review projects where I witnessed everything from interest rate manipulations to out right fraud mortgage docs and lawyers saying to each other “eh we know these loans are bad, how to we sell them to get rid of them?” I can honestly tell you, I went out and bought five months of dehydrated food for my garage, and I used my tax refund to prepay several months of mortgage payments. Why? because a) Eric Holder and his kind have sold out the american public so he can represent JP Morgan while working at Covington and Burling (so no bankers go to jail); 2) the worst offenders are still working at the banks and their docs aren’t discoverable because the banks get to claim “regulatory privilege” which normally is reserved for the regulators but now the banks get to assert gov privileges and most of the worst criminals are lawyers so their docs are labeled privileged. 3) the US government already knows that another meltdown will occur, thats why the G20 rubber-stamped the Financial Stability Board’s “Adequacy of Loss-Absorbing Capacity of Global Systemically Important Banks in Resolution,” which basically means your bank account gets wiped out partially when the next big bank fails. The militarization of the police forces is to deal with the mass panic when the next bank fails. I’m sure it was insisted upon when Obama told the bankers the last time that he was the only one standing between the bankers and the pitch forks. That comment got them worried and made them insist that next time the military works with police to control people. The whole banking system is frighteningly corrupt and nobody but a small group of lawyers knows it, sworn to secrecy. Sarbanes Oxley is a joke, no protection there for whistle blowers. The media doesn’t properly report on these things. There’s my two cents. How would you feel if you actually knew that all that wealth, all that money, was just an illusion by the banks? What if you knew that they *invented* people who they gave mortgages to? Addresses that they made up from thin air? How would you feel? Eric Holder was right about one thing: people would have lost faith in the banks if the truth had fully come out, if the government had pushed to make those documents discoverable. But now we are left with a hardened bunch of banking criminals who know how to evade the law next time, and take down the economy next time just because they know they can and because its actually *profitable* for them.

      61. Too much info to write here so I’ll give you all some search terms: Shemitah 2015, 9/24 (asteroid prophecy, popes visit to congress), super blood moon, CERN, MrCati – a code reader on youtube, renee m – a researcher on youtube who deals with 9/23-24 biblical prophecy.

        Lots of things converging in September folks…..

      62. Mr. Johnson

        Thank you for your service and for this article. You are a true American patriot.

        Here is my 2 cents on the subject. I have no evidence that the two issues are related. I will continue searching and asking around. My gut tells me they are related. It has gotten to the point that I believe all things are related. I think we all should be trying daily to find out any info we can. I go to some web sites that I used to think were absolutely crazy. Now it is remarkable how things that used to seem crazy are not anymore. We also should be studying history. What leaders of the past have done with troops, what leaders of other countries have done. The communist manifesto, Carl Marx, Saul Alinsky,and all who were associates with Obama. We should be doing this actually with all of our leaders. That too will give clues as to what they are attempting. They are slowly tearing down the fabric of this country from all sides. They are overwhelming the system and using every crisis to do more. Every time they go to fast there has been small push back. Then they stop and get what they want slowly. They have slowly conditioned Americans to all this as the normal thing. They control the media, education system, the medical system, and now have allowed political correctness to enter the military. It is all part of the plan. Bailouts, Tarp, and QE have all just transferred power and wealth to this N.W.O. Every news program is about war, pandemics, murder, and crisis. The world trillion is thrown around like the dollar bill used to be. It has desensitized most people. It is all part of the plan. They have one major thing left to do. That would be to remove our guns. This can never be allowed to happen. We are done if it is. The sad thing is they know where most of the guns are. Unless you have older weapons or weapons bought from a private individual.
        Then we have problems that I consider often. We should be calling our political leaders constantly. We should apply as much pressure as possible. I like others don’t think this will work because I think most of them are in it together no matter there party. We should also be warning others. We should be the soldier on guard duty that sees trouble coming and sounds the warning. Trying our best to wake up our brothers and sisters who are asleep while the wolf is at the door. I know about op sec but I also know that we are few in number.
        We as preppers are spread out across this nation. We are a small percentage of the population. At best we have small groups. At worst we are alone or just have the wife and kids. It saddens me to say but we stand no chance against the military or swat teams at our door. Yes we may take a couple with us. But if that happens then our number has also just decreased and a voice for freedom is gone. We cannot win by having small Alamo’s all over the nation.
        We as preppers are also a strong willed and opinionated bunch. I have put a lot of thought into that. I think that is natural for a prepper. Preppers are self reliant and not willing to succumb to others. This is both good and bad. We have to be that way in order to survive what is coming. We have to have the never quit or give in attitude. At the same time because of our bull headedness we argue with each other. We threaten and bicker with one another. This can be used against us. We must put our differences aside. I have seen arguments over, blacks, jews, political parties, topics of articles, authors of articles, and even jokes. This just names a few. If we as a small percentage of the population cannot operate together as a team for the good of the nation then we are done. There is no race, religion, organization, or person for that matter that is always right. There are good and bad in all. I include myself in that and mean it. All of these disagreements hurt the chance of increasing the number of preppers. They prevent people from posting according to a few post I have read. They cause people to leave this site and others.
        Can we please just realize that we are all on the same team. We are one unit. We work together for the common good of all. We have one purpose and one purpose only, other than survival. We work together for Freedom. That means freedom for all races, religion, sexes, and people. That is what made this country great. All people deserve freedom it is God given. If you are not religious it saddens me but you deserve the freedom not to be. I try to post helpful thought provoking comments. I am human and don’t always succeed but I want us all to operate together as a team. Caring for one another and working and fighting if necessary to remain free.
        May God bless you all and use us all as his instruments to preserve freedom. May we be the light to the world and a shining example of good that we once were.
        Give us liberty or give us death.

        • You know, just once I’d like to hear about the dirt on a politician BEFORE HE GETS INTO OFFICE. We heard all kinds of shit about obungler that really could have made a difference, but we only heard all of it AFTER he ended up president.

          Just once, I’d like to hear it while it still mattered.

        • Dear Mike in VA,

          I thank you for your kind words from the bottom of my heart. I hope to write, and the right things, for all of you. I concur to the 100th power with the need to post the most constructive and helpful things as possible.

          We are “at the tipping point,” Sir, the precipice of entering into the greatest period of darkness in human history that the world has ever seen.

          It is up to us to fight the good fight: with our words and supporting one another. It will become ugly: our history teaches us this time and again. The true ugliness can be faced, as long as it is not in the mirror.

          Col. Jeff Cooper: To ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth. Your words ring true, Mike. You see the big picture for what it is. We must help one another and do the best we can with what we have.

          And that team concept you mentioned is the crux. We have to focus on who we were (during the founding of this great Republic), and who we still are: the heirs to that great legacy of freedom, liberty, and justice for all.

          I’m in this fight…with you, and for you…to the best of my abilities, as God is my witness, let Him strike me dead if I have not written what is in my heart.

          I’m with you, and I thank you once more for your sagacious words and the kindness surrounding them. You, Sir, are an American Patriot who understands exactly what the word “team” means. May God bless you and your family in all that you do.

          Sincerely and Respectfully Yours,


          • JJ

            Thank you so much for your response. It is very uplifting to know that we have people of your caliber on our side. I also want to say how much I have come to enjoy your articles. It is refreshing to see someone that just rights articles to help all here.
            Your reply meant the world to me and may God bless you and yours. If you ever need anything just feel free to ask. God has blessed me greatly.

      63. wow
        look at these numbers

        seems the sheep are waking up ???

        45% Of US Voters Concerned Government Will Use Military Training Exercises For Power Grab

        ht tp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-13/45-us-voters-concerned-government-will-use-military-training-exercises-power-grab

        “Just 20% of voters now consider the federal government a protector of individual liberty. Sixty percent (60%) see the government as a threat to individual liberty instead. Only 19% trust the federal government to do the right thing all or most of the time.”

      64. Cal… You posted a quote from Alexander Hamilton up the page. “The natural cure for an ill-administration, in a popular or representative constitution, is a change of men”. Times have changed or have they, I have read that Hamilton was a Rothschild agent in America at that time.

      65. Thank you, JJ, for another thought/comment provoking article.

        Are JH and TPP related? Probably. Has the government’s right hand ever really known what the left hand is doing?

        I think TPTB (commonly referred to as “they”) are throwing shit up against the wall to see what sticks.

        They are probing OUR perimeters.

        This is end game.

        Now that I have unloaded and reloaded ALL magazines for all calibers I prefer, and have my preps in order, I need to turn my stacks of firewood into stacks of punji sticks and study my Anarchist’s Cookbook.

        I am ready to water the tree of liberty with traitor’s blood.

        • Ben Raines.

          Hard Core Preps. ;0)

      66. I have said this several times over several years, now,that by the time MOST ( not all) Americans realize that TALK ( Negotiations) and PEACEFUL PROTESTING do not work against the RULING Psychopaths( mainly Zionists) who use FRAUD and FORCE against humanity, it will be too late.

        MOST people on this planet.have been taught, since Childhood, to RESPECT and OBEY Authority and the same Zionist Psychopathic ESTABLISHMENT knows that and use it to their advantage.

        They have NO ILLUSIONS about AUTHORITY because they MAKE the LAWS and CONTROL the Education system, which indoctrinates you to foolishly believe those LAWS MUST be obeyed.

      67. Jerimiah,
        Thank you for a thought provoking article. I also thank you for the shout out- I don’t post much here, but I try to contribute.

        The thoughts that I have are (and is as Mike in Va. stated – gut feeling – you’re not alone boss – the BS alert hairs on the back of my neck have been standing up for a long time):
        1. This Jade Helm exercise is not to train personnel for overseas deployment or operations within a foreign city environment.
        True, the deployment of the supposed microwave equipment has been identified as Satcom equipment. However, experience with other microwave transmitters – these dishes can be used for area denial. Think about it. Those that are communications electronics technicians or engineers KNOW this is feasible.

        2. The current drought conditions in California. What would cause a massive exodus of people? Lack of food, water, employment. Water (or lack thereof) would drive the people to move from there to surrounding states or other areas to where there is water as well as employment. Good luck on the employment – there’s 90+ MILLION people out of work. Those areas that are currently the subject of the Jade Helm exercise, are also states that have, in the past as well as in the present that have openly defied the current occupant of the White House with their elections of “non-favorable” individuals into their various state houses and governments. (That’s conjecture – but it’s not beyond the realm of possibility?)

        3. The TPP – recently voted down – was resurrected by the RINO’s in the Senate. McConnell is a chief backer of this. He’s also the one that stated publicly that “Impeachment is off the table”. How kind of you, McConnell, to sell out and abdicate your responsibility to your oath and to the United States. Same goes for all the other “esteemed” gentlemen and women there in Mordor.
        (I call D.C. Mordor.) They’re chomping at the bit to get the rest of the Constitution demolished at the first opportunity so as to allow the U.N. do the “One World Order” show. Or worse – allow Obama to become “Leader for Life”. However, these same people have come up with a set of set asides for their pork projects so – they’ll vote on it again later this week.

        4. Finally, (yay! Cat’s wrapping up the diatribe!) this:
        There’s 4 financial quarters to the Federal budgetary year. Currently, we’re in 3rd Quarter of the budget year. We’ve seen the stock market oscillate in swings that hint at a financial melt down. History proves out that in the months prior to the 2K7/2K8 disaster, the stock market did the same. Look closely at the Bond market. Ask – why is JP Morgan buying silver in huge quantities – don’t they realize that attempting the corner the market in silver caused the Hunt brothers some serious problems or do they figure that they’re above the law?
        Conjecture and supposition: Drought in California affecting 40% to 80% of the agricultural market – causing prices to go up. 22 Million birds on the poultry farms are being slaughtered to prevent contamination of the H5N1 virus to other poultry farms. These prices will increase as a result. Two questions – how did the original outbreak occur? Was it introduced to coincide with the JH (Jade Helm) exercise?
        One other item that might not be on radar screens – money. Your money. In your bank. TPTB are wanting to go completely cashless. Citibank and Bank of America are going to start charging you, their customer, for depositing your money into their facility.
        As others here have stated, and I will repeat – if it’s not in your hands, your personal safe, you don’t own it.

        Be well.

        • Dear Cat,

          I thank you for the compliments.

          To answer those two questions, I recently posted an article with Tess Pennington’s ReadyNutrition.com blog (I write naturopathic and medical articles for her site). The article was the first of two parts on Biological Warfare, entitled “Biological Warfare 101: Weapons and Tactics Govts Use Against You.” You can enter the site and find the article.

          In it I detailed an experiment I conducted regarding the H3N2 outbreak of 2012-13, and I monitored that “patient zero” (first confirmed case) was just outside of Topeka, KS, 40 miles from the new Bio Lab (level 4 facility) in Manhattan, KS. The disease ran across the U.S. in 53 days.

          I’m certain that this new one with the poultry was either engineered for or intentionally released to cause havoc with our food supply.

          I also feel that (as these “releases” take a while to affect things) it was definitely placed when it was to (if not coincide with) at least be a factor that they could increase/exacerbate when the time came to “morph” Jade Helm into something greater. Directly or indirectly, yes, I believe it does coincide with Jade Helm.

          Your comments are always great, Cat, and I thank you for both your questions and your input. I rely on it…all of it…and I ask you to keep up the good posts.



          • JJ Thank you for your articles. I read them here and on readynutrition.com. The article you reference here about the biological attacks really hit home with me.

            For the past several years I have been reading, learning, and experimenting with herbal remedies for various ailments. I’ve grown or am growing 30-40 various herbs and plants for medicinal purposes.

            Even though I have learned a great deal, I still feel so ignorant. There is so much to learn to get to the point of feeling at least somewhat ready to take care of my family and friends when our system crashes. It’s monumental but I continue on.

            I believe God has given us everything we need to take care of our health if we can just gain his wisdom to understand it all. It’s a lifelong journey and I got started late.

            Please do some more series on the use of plant medicine applicable especially after things crash. Getting additional knowledge from someone with real world experiences is invaluable.

            Also, in your opinion, what is the best reference to use to be able to identify medicinal plants in the wild. I’ve looked a some and just have not found anything that really helps me know for sure what I’m looking at when I see a plant and try to identify it.

            I have multiple books but they just don’t give the detail I’m looking for to be certain I’m identifying something correctly.

            Thanks again for all you do. God Bless!!

            • Dear Lordchamp

              I thank you for the support and confidence. Just for you, Sir, I will open up a series, dedicating it to you, on herbal remedies and how to stock up (wildcraft, identify, tincture, etc) prior to and post SHTF.

              As far as references run, I advise the following:

              1. For herb-ID guides, the Petersen Field Guide series on Medicinal Plants is about the best that money can buy. Full color photos and a plethora of information. I have the one for the Eastern U.S., and it doesn’t matter: just about everything in Montana can also be found in the east. I’m sure there’s a Western one as well. Run you about $20.00. Best field guide to ID that you can tote

              2. Another tool I utilize is a PDR for Herbal Medicines, written and edited by an M.D. who is also a certified Master Herbalist. The most comprehensive one of its kind you can find. Kind of pricey, but I bought one used on Amazon.com for about $11.00, and normally it runs $50 – 60.

              I will begin the series over the weekend, for you, Lordchamp.

              You have a great weekend and thank you for your kind words.


              • Thank you JJ. That sounds great.

                I’m familiar with the Peterson’s and have gone back and forth as to whether to get it since I have others that are similar but since you recommend it I will give it a try too.

                had never heard of the PDR for Herbal Medicines. I’m familiar with the regular PDR though so that one sounds like a good addition to my library also.

                I’m very familiar with tinctures, salves, decoctions, etc, and use make and use many frequently.

                Comparing notes with others though is always helpful so I’m looking forward to hearing what more you have to offer.

      68. Most of the resistance fantasies I’m reading here would be ineffective and suicidal…reminds me of Confederate bluster. Bubba,your AR15 is not gonna save the Republic. You’ll be one of those pathetic souls caught on the FLIR being chewed up by 30mm rounds. Unless you get your hands on sophisticated weaponry and learn real tradecraft…you’re just target practice.

        • Like the wars in the middle east have been so easily won against a people without sophisticated technology?

          Will people die, yes. Will technology help them? To an extent initially.

          What you fail to realize is this situation is not at all like the war of northern aggression. There is no intent to meet on the battlefield in mass formations.

          The government does not have to resources to be in all places at once, it’s impossible. They will end up just chasing their tail if they even try, which initially they will.

          If every little community in the nation is resisting to any extent, they will not be able to respond very well.

          Then, the more they do respond violently, the more people will get pissed off and move against them unless they are VERY successful at managing the propaganda.

          Unless they move to almost totally wiping out areas of resistance very quickly, they will not be successful. If they do that, they lose the media war and make more even enemies.

          It also takes personnel to upkeep all that precious technology, you speak of, once they begin to force the military to get brutal with citizens, it’s a matter of time before many will begin abandoning their jobs and returning to protect own their families. When that happens, the technology breaks and becomes useless.

          Now granted this will most likely not happen overnight and will require some staying power on the part of those rebelling but it will happen eventually.

          I still believe there is enough of the rebellious, freedom loving American spirit left to see this through when it happens. It won’t be pretty though.

      69. As I said in other article comments wise,wether Jade/trade/cashless society ect. seems things are getting more interesting daily.As a dictatorship/martial situation comes to pass all one can do is fight/resist it,the elections as they are setup at moment will not help it seems,both parties excepting a few lone voices working against this countries interests.That said,why I will start linking/passing on any nuggets of good information to help folks in tough times.In the other article I listed this:ht tp://americanpreppersnetwork.com/2012/08/a-year-of-food-storage-for-300-for-a-family-of-four.html ,a good food start and great for beginner/tight income folks.For some basic first aid with limited supplies/knowledge I list this:ht tp://griddownmed.com/2014/12/19/open-for-business/ ,the best I feel citizens can do is get as much knowledge possible while still online and hopefully hard copy it and try and practice as much as reasonable different skills,all your prepping will work in all types of bad situations,whether man made or natural.Lets all put up daily links/nuggets of learned info while we can,oh,and try and enjoy the day!

        • “As a dictatorship/martial situation…”

          If anyone serving within our governments declares “martial law” or “emergency powers” they are then openly declaring their TREASON against American people, the US Constitution, and the USA as a whole. They MUST be charged and prosecuted as Traitors.

          The US Constitution is the EXACT opposite of both “martial law” and “emergency powers”. It was created during an emergency and there is NOTHING LAWFUL that can take away the peoples natural rights and protections from those who serve within our governments.

          Some court cases backing me up, plus READ the US Constitution itself, please.

          Home Building & Loan Association v. Blaisdell, 290 U.S. 398, 425 (1934): “Emergency does not create power. Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the Federal Government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency and they are not altered by emergency.”

          The Supreme Court of the United States: “The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism.”

          Stock v. Medical Examiners 94 Ca 2d 751. 211 P2d 289 In Interest of M.V., 288 Ill.App.3d 300, 681 N.E.2d 532 (1st Dist. 1997) “Where a court’s power to act is controlled by statute, the court is governed by the rules of limited jurisdiction, and courts exercising jurisdiction over such matters must proceed within the structures of the statute.” “The state citizen is immune from any and all government attacks and procedure, absent contract.”
          for further clarification see, Dred Scott vs. Sanford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 or as the Supreme Court has stated clearly, “…every man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent.”

          James Madison, Father of the US Constitution: “”Because if . . . [An Unalienable Natural Right of Free Men] . . . be exempt from the authority of the Society at large, still less can it be subject to that of the Legislative Body. The latter are but the creatures and vicegerents of the former. Their jurisdiction is both derivative and limited: It is limited with regard to the coordinate departments, more necessarily is it limited with regard to the constituents. The preservation of a free Government requires, not merely, that the metes and bounds which separate each department of power be invariably maintained: but more especially that neither of them be suffered to overleap the greater Barrier which defends the rights of the people. The Rulers who are guilty of such an encroachment, exceed the commission from which they derive their authority, and are Tyrants. The people who submit to it are governed by laws made neither by themselves nor by an authority derived from them, and are Slaves”

          Judge Thomas M. Cooley: “Legislators have their authority measured by the Constitution, they are chosen to do what it permits, and NOTHING MORE, and they take solemn oath to obey and support it… To pass an act when they are in doubt whether it does or does not violate the Constitution is to treat as of no force the most imperative obligations any person can assume.” (Remember, here in the USA, under our legitimate government – whatever the domestic enemies and traitors try to make it seem – those that serve within the legislative branch and are ELECTED by the people themselves are the only ones with any legal/lawful authority to make laws, regulations, etc. Nothing else is binding or lawful on the people.

          Those that enforce those “color of law”, pretend laws, that misuse of power made possible only because is viewed y the ignorant of actually having the authority of “state” (government) are made into criminals as they have no lawful basis for their actions against the people.

          • That’s all fine and correct but is irrelevant to the powers that be.

            If you had not noticed, the rule of law, the Constitution, is already ignored so what does it matter to them to go a step or two further?

            So even though your points are valid, without action on our part nothing will change and they surely won’t stop moving forward with their plans.

            • Because it is not those who serve within our governments duty to stop it, it is OURS.

              It is now, like always, our duty. Who do you think the Militia is, and why are those that serve within our governments – state and federal – REQUIRED to use it?

              They were forbidden to create a “standing” (permanent) military and forbidden to create governmental professional law enforcement agencies.

              As Dr Edwin Vieira states in his book “Constitutional “Homeland Security” Volume 1: the Nation in Arms”: “That means “that NONE of those tasks are assigned to the Army, to a Navy, to a (constitutionally unknown) National Guard, or least of all to any unnamed professional police, security, or intelligence agencies of the General Government or of any state or locality. Rather, the Constitution’s explicit emphasis on the Militia as the preeminent forces by politicians of a garrison, “national-security”, or police state…
              So those bound by Oath who “knowingly, with willful blindness, or in reckless disregard of the consequences of his/her action” votes for an unconstitutional act, bill, etc; when a “President or state governor refuses to veto it and instead executes it; or when a Judge, either of the supreme and inferior courts of the general government, or of any state knowingly declares such a statute valid and enforceable – each and every one of them violates his oath of office….
              A remedy MUST exist for every individual harmed by each and every violation. That remedy MUST impose some personal liability on the violator – it being his own Oath or Affirmation he himself forswore. And that personal liability cannot be evaded by his or his cronies’ assertion of some ersatz official immunity”. (end Dr Edwin Vieira quote)

              Remember that the US Constitution allows for ONLY one official immunity (ONE!). Using an “”implied power to create “official immunities” for themselves would allow them to negate the express requirement that “they shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution”… “for any public official to create or assert a purported “official immunity’ for himself or any other official” is itself a violation of his Oath or Affirmation”. Dr. Edwin Vieira.

              Dr. Edwin Vieira: “This has nothing to do with personalities or subjective ideas. It’s a matter of what the Constitution provides…

              The government of the United States has never violated anyone’s constitutional rights…
              The government of the United States will never violate anyone constitutional rights, because it cannot violate anyone’s constitutional rights.
              The reason for that is: The government of the United States is that set of actions by public officials that are consistent with the Constitution. Outside of its constitutional powers, the government of the United States has no legitimacy. It has no authority; and, it really even has no existence. It is what lawyers call a legal fiction.

              … the famous case Norton v. Shelby County… The Court said: “An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties. It is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.”

              And that applies to any (and all) governmental action outside of the Constitution…”

              What are the defining characteristics of a limited government? They are its disabilities; what it does not have legal authority to do.
              Look at the First Amendment… What does it do? It guarantees freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion.
              But how does it do that?
              I quote: “Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press” etcetera.
              “Congress shall make no law;” that’s a statement of an absence of power. That’s a statement of a disability.” (End quote)

              • You misunderstand.

                I’m in agreement with you and what you are saying. I know everything you stated as do most here.

                What I’m saying is that the powers that be don’t care.

                Whether they are supposed to or not, they don’t and demonstrate it on a daily basis.

                We could stand in front of them and read the Constitution to their faces and it would not change their actions. They don’t accept it as authority over them. They might say they do, but their actions say otherwise.

                That is not going to change or it would have already before we got to this point. The only way it will change is if we force the change in some manner and voting or merely telling them to stop won’t do it. That too has already been proven over and over.

                Not many options left.

                • The Militia is constitutionally mandated to enforce:

                  — Enforce the US Constitution and all that is in Pursuance thereof it (Supreme LAW of the land), plus each state’s Constitution (highest LAW of the state except where it is in conflict with the US Constitution),
                  — Enforce and keep the “Laws of the Union” (which are constitutional laws ONLY),
                  — Protect the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign, and
                  — “to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

                  George Washington: “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”

                  The Militia is the PEOPLE’s tool, not those that serve within our government, so that we could stop things like what is going on now. We STILL are constitutionally mandated as the Militia (trained) to enforce those same laws.

                  The Grand Jury is the people’s tool, it is NOT under any branch of either the state or federal government, it (like the Militia) is outside of those that Serves within power and jurisdiction.

                  Below shows what the Militia does, it is held to no standards beyond that of the US Constitution, and state Constitutions. The US Military is supposed to take orders from the Militia when it is “called into service” hence the words “The military is subordinate to civil power” found in state Constitutions.

                  We the people are to train as the military is required when they are called into service so that we can defend our state(s) and nation if necessary, and become voluntarily the Military when needed for the defense of our nation.

                  We are REQUIRED to not rely upon those who serve to supply us with military armament, though it is the congress duty to do so, but to create our own manufacturers pf military weapons that we could rely on because the framers figured that sooner or later domestic enemies and traitors would raise their ugly heads and need them modified by the people.

                  John Adams: “To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws.”

                  Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 28: “The militia is a voluntary force not associated or under the control of the States except when called out; [when called into actual service] a permanent or long standing force would be entirely different in make-up and call.”

                  George Washington, who served as a general, and then as a US President: “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”

                  Even the acknowledged Father of the US Constitution said:

                  James Madison: “The ultimate authority resides in the people, and that if the federal government got too powerful and overstepped its authority, then the people would develop plans of resistance and resort to arms.”

                  and just because I like it;
                  Richard Henry Lee, Member of Continental Congress, Signer of the Declaration of Independence, U.S. Senator: “To say that a bad government must be established for fear of anarchy is really saying that we should kill ourselves for fear of dying.”

                  Understand now?

                  • Cal, I am a student of the Constitution and history. I even have a site where I have written a class on the Founding Documents with explanations in the Founders own words about what they meant and intended in the words they wrote.

                    I have been preaching for years now that, as Hamilton said in Federalist 33, the federal government is our creature, which makes us the creator.

                    So how can the creature be greater than the creator. Logically it cannot, but yet it is because we have allowed it.

                    Maybe this will be a better way to put what I’ve been trying to say.

                    The militia, or in other words, WE THE PEOPLE, created the federal government, through our States, and gave it limited, enumerated powers.

                    Then we walked away, went back to sleep, and let it grow out of control to the point where it believes US and the Constitution to be insignificant and incapable of stopping it from doing whatever it wants. Hence, my comments that they don’t care.

                    That is where we stand as of today.

                    Regardless of what We The People SHOULD do, or are REQUIRED to do by the Constitution, we have not and are not doing it to a great degree.

                    So therefore, the federal government does not care about what we or the Constitution think or say.

                    Until such time as We The People re-assume our responsibilities, the federal government will continue to ignore us and the Constitution. It’s human nature.

                    Until the words you stated are applied, they are just words. Until they are applied, the Constitution and We The People will be ignored by the powers in washington.

                    In short, we and the Constitution are insignificant until washington is forced to recognize us both as THEIR controllers, not the reverse.

                    So it all boils down to US, We The People.

                    When the term militia is used everyone always thinks of an armed group.

                    Yes, it does mean that, but from reading the Founders own words, I believe they meant it for more.

                    I believe they intended it to mean ALL the people, being of one heart and mind, should protect what they had given us through the Founding Documents they had written.

                    So, call us militia or whatever name you want to give it, it is our responsibility, We The People, to fix what we allowed to get broken through any means at our disposal.

                    Hopefully that can still be done without violence by not complying through civil disobedience and other non-violent methods such as nullification, etc.

                    However, I suspect that once that is in full swing, washington will move to violence to keep their powers in place. That too, is human nature, as history has repeatedly shown.

                    Then, the armed militia, We The People, you refer to, will be needed in our God given right of self defense.

                    We’re on the same team Cal, just stating things from different perspectives.

                    I believe one of the biggest problems we face in this Country is ignorance.

                    Ignorance of the things we are discussing here and many others. Thankfully, ignorance is curable with knowledge.

                    Hopefully some have gained some knowledge from our discussions.

                    • I agree that the Militia is all of the people, and that the organized Militia is those trained in arms.

                      It is the Militia, along with the Grand Jury, etc that will get our nation back by removing those who currently serve and replacing them with those who WILL do as they are contracted and under Oath to do. To reinforce that we mean business all who have committed crimes – criminal and civil – MUST be prosecuted and those that committed treason must receive the death penalty.

                      There are people in most states getting the Militia back up, and that is NOT dependent upon those who serve within our governments – though they are to be USED when needed by both the state and federal governments.

                      Getting Sheriffs trained by cspoa.org in constitutional policing, then volunteering to be trained so that one can back up the Sheriff in the Constitutional duties within the states helps a lot. Some Sheriffs (admittedly few at this time) have over a thousand to back them up that they have trained.

                      Removing those who will not keep their Oath, and changing the Election methods so that they represent the peoples voice are important also.

                      Oathkeepers.org has Community Preparedness Teams that go and train for free those who want assistance in creating groups – info found here

                      tenthamendmentcenter.org works on nullifying There are a lot of things going on and it is important that people realize that ALL people regardless of age, etc has a place and skill set that could be used, though they may not have discovered it yet.

      70. JJ – would appreciate a reply to the concerns I have posed above … EA

        • Dear EA,

          I did, just above. The article on Strategic Relocation was submitted to Mac and I’m awaiting his posting of it.

          As I mentioned above, I dedicated the article to you. I’m going to shoot him an email and ask him to put it up ASAP.

          All My Best,


          • Dear EA,

            I emailed Mac, and he said it will be posted very shortly/ASAP. Sorry…he’s been backed up with work and posts.

            Catch you in a bit, and you have a good one. Hope you like the post!


      71. JJ,in regards to your ? whether these actions interrelated would say a resounding yes.I would also say that push and unfortunate passage of bad firearm laws along with a litany of other actions at all govt. levels designed to instil fear in sheep and acceptance of govt. control at all levels without resisting,if done well easier then going straight out martial law though do see that happening as a likely end run.As always will try and pass along some knowledge whether mine learned or a link,in this case I suggest folks with a passion for cooking visit USCrow,a lot of great recipes there!As always,enjoy your day,resist any way possible dumb laws/regulations,try and live with less and drop to best of reason off the matrix/grid,might as well enjoy the net while up because see the net as one of the first victims of evildoers.

      72. TPP-TTIP are first and foremost supranationalist public-private mergers. These treaties setup not only Tribunal courts, but they also grant foreign and global corporation regulatory favoritism under public-private mergers within hierarchical fashion.
        (Within classical Bismarkianism a political ideology aspired by Otto Von Bismark’s ambitions of Absolute Authority and methodology of pacifying discontent through Bismarkian Policies in bait and switch fashion. Bismarkianism operates in 3 developmental stages centering around normalizing and encouraging Oligarchy creation through fiefdom or favoritism, Kleptocracy through public-private partnerships advocated by Socialism [Wealth Redistribution is Top-Down Wealth Effect requires the mechanism of public-private partnerships to be formed], and Plutocracy or Absolute Authority through public-private mergers including the caste hierarchy prior to Full Implementation or Stage 4 Roll out and Martial Law).

      73. Indeed it appears as though perilous times are about to burst the bubble of comparative comfort which many of the residents and citizens have enjoyed until now. These are critical issues for those who will inherit what is left, and the principles are worth the struggle and the effort. Enjoy as many “todays” as you are able. Do your honorable best, and prepare to cross over. You may be seeing some familiar faces on the other side. This only is certain, there is, as it has been written, no discharge from that war, nobody gets off this rock alive. On a practical level, the leadership of the Confederacy was rather hindered by it’s own lack of unity. Time will reveal to each of us things about ourselves which we may amend or approve of internally. I wish you well.

      74. I researched and wrote up a 13 page paper on Jade Helm. After all that work, the conservative website I write for would not touch it. They aid it might scare people. Anyone who would like a copy of it, fell free to e mail [email protected] and I will send it to you.

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