A Foreshadowing of Future Mass Panic in America: This Is Why We Prepare…

by | Feb 12, 2014 | Headline News | 470 comments

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    Every year somewhere in our country tens of thousands of Americans experience an emergency resulting from any number of scenarios that may include natural disasters, economic hardship or other unexpected circumstances. And every year we watch with amazement as those in areas that have been affected by snow storms, hurricanes, tornadoes or earthquakes lose everything and have no backup plan to deal with the crisis.

    The thin veneer of our civilization should be apparent to everyone, yet it seems that no one really gets it.

    Despite warnings from FEMA, as well as the prevalence of popular preparedness TV shows, Americans still don’t seem to understand how susceptible we are to a complete destabilization of life as we know it. It boggles the mind that most people seem to think that when disasters strikes they’ll be able to depend on someone else to provide them with assistance.

    Recent disasters, especially those here in the United States, are often limited to a particular city or region, so emergency service personal are often able to get things under control within a week or two. But events like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, Hurricane Sandy on the east coast, and the recent chemical spill in West Virgina often only affect a small percentage of our domestic population.

    But what if the next disaster comes in the form of an earthquake on the New Madrid fault line? Or what if the sun unleashes a solar flare powerful enough to take down our electrical grid? Or what if a rogue terror organization were to detonate a nuclear weapon or dirty bomb over U.S. soil?

    All of these scenarios would have an immediate and lasting impact on not tens of thousands of people, but millions.

    What would it look like in America on that particular day?

    If this week’s snow storm east of the Mississippi is any indication, then we can expect widespread pandemonium and panic:

    Atlanta residents ransacked neighborhood grocery stores in frantic preparation for their second major snowstorm of the year, waging fights over food items and leaving destruction and empty shelves in their wake, a stunning precursor to what will ensue once a major crisis impacts the U.S.

    After three inches of snow shut the city down two weeks ago, causing major havoc and leaving miles of cars stranded on immobile roadways, the residents of Atlanta took heed and shopped early.

    According to people who Tweeted photos of barren store shelves, residents went crazy over essentials like milk, bread, water and eggs, and in some cases “people were fighting. Yes fighting,” alleges one user.

    Given Americans’ propensity to riot over such inanities as Black Friday sales and winning sports teams, could fights and empty shelves also be expected in the midst of a major crisis?

    The pictures and real-time commentary below demonstrate exactly why “preppers” do what they do, despite being ridiculed and laughed at by the myrmidons of the mainstream.

    (Pictures courtesy of Adan Salazar & Kit Daniels of Infowars)

    If a transient winter storm for which we had ample advance warning leads to panic buying, empty store shelves and brawls, then what do you think is going to happen in a worst case scenario?

    It’ll start just like Atlanta, with people in panic mode looking for food, water and essential supplies. Once the food runs out, so will patience. Chances are that emergency responders will be overwhelmed or they’ll be taking care of their own families, so calls for help will go unanswered. Government will either be too slow to respond or they won’t show up at all:

    “What people have got to know is that they’re on their own, literally on their own,” he said.

    Experts say people should be prepared to look after themselves for at least three days after any major disaster.

    But Mr Winter says most people have no plans in place.

    “If we turn off power and water, how long will you be able to survive?” he said.

    “When we put to people, ‘Can you survive for 72 hours without external help?’, the reaction is their jaw drops.”

    Three days, maybe less, as we saw in West Virginia last month:

    Lesson #1: There will be immediate panic

    That’s when the situation goes critical.

    The looting and violence will begin. First they’ll target businesses likely grocery stores, warehouses, and restaurants. When those are picked clean, they’ll go door-to-door.

    Will you be ready? Because they won’t be knocking.

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      1. Let ’em laugh. He laughs best who laughs last !

        • My Dad told me those kind of people
          are always a day late and a dollar short.

          • Howdy, OutWest. My Dad used to say those same kind of people are boocoo days late and boocoo dollars short. Most of the public still doesn’t “GET IT” and never will. I’m so glad my wife got me started on prepping back in the 70s and I have never regretted it. I gave up long ago trying to convert anyone to prepping. Stupid is as stupid does. Nothing has changed about that, unfortunately.

            • Hi back, braveheart

              The wondrous thing about the discipline of prepping
              is, once a person takes on the mindset of being
              prepared for anything, they will never go back to
              a life of being caught unaware. It’s like comfort
              food. But then, you already knew that…..

              • @OutWest, As in, “Nothing gives you peace of mind like sleeping on one metric ton of food.”

                The first time I heard that I LMAO. Who did that quote come from?

            • Herman, shame on you for attacking braveheart and his Dad like that. You’re the one who is boocoo crazy, you faggot.

            • This is very interesting, and something that each of us needs to be aware of as SHTF is rapidly approaching. There are certain people that may seem okay to let into our survival groups, but are quite dangerous to everyone in the group.

              Profile of the Sociopath:

              http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

              This is an absolute must read for all of our protection to look for many of these signs to someone that could destroy everything we had worked so hard for.

              • The traits of upper management.

              • Water!

                I’ve been caught out this week. While DS has drunk the pre-boiled water from the fridge, I drank straight from the tap during the big storm here in the UK.

                Mistake as just 30 mins later I started throwing up! A couple of other neighbours who did the same that night are also ill. There has been no public health warning about the safety of the tap water and it is the only thing I ingested in the 48 hour period prior to getting sick that differed from my son’s intake.

                I’m now filtering AND boiling all water until further notice. I’m also VERY glad I have a fortnight’s supply of shop 2l bottles of water. Noone is drinking from the tap until I’ve verified it’s safe again via a home testing kit.

                I made a real green behind the ears ijeet’s damn fool mistake. However it’s one I’d like people to learn from, as I’ll repeat “officially” our water from our tap is still safe to drink. Just cos the gubberment says your water is safe to drink during/after a storm, doesn’t mean it actually is!!!!!!

                • dear folks that liquid thats falling none stop from the sky overthere is very safe to drink. this is why when disaster strikes people have to think and improvise. sorry about the flooding that the brits are facing.

              • Be Informed: O.M.G., that sounds like virtually every member of Congress, the White House, most of the Supreme Court and federal judges, and all of the top bureaucrats in the nations-We are so screwed!!!

              • http://www.damninteresting.com/the-unburdened-mind/

                It’s so important to note that in a disaster these individuals:-

                1/ Have a natural survival advantage
                2/ Throughout the evolution of mankind, we have repeatedly selected them as leaders.
                3/ Comprise approx 1% of the population across all cultures, creed and classes. (eg several on this forum will have a child, or spouse who fits this category)

                Do study this personality type, they could be your greatest shtf ally, given their natural advantages, until suddenly they are not.. .. .

              • They make great car sales people!

              • Be informed: agree, why would anyone give you a thumbs down? They gotto be stuck in stupid. B’heart, etc. I’d say it’s 95% or so that don’t see it. I also quit trying to inform years ago, like talking to a tree. Everyone: Keep low profile and stick to your close circle of preppers only. Voting and any political activity is useless; we are way beyond fixing anything. America is down the sewers big time.

              • It is a good thing you posted that. After working with criminals for 30+ years I can say with certainty that you had best be careful about who you trust. The real criminals, the very good ones, walk among us now. They rarely get caught, but they will be there immediately to exploit any and all situations. It would be so nice if there was an accurate way to know which group of people to trust, especially for those of us who live alone.

                I did not know the term prepper when I was growing up but our family always had a large chest freezer full of home grown meat! a large bedroom size pantry in the basement full of home canned foods, potatoes! onions! and all the ancillary store bought canned goods. New could have survived a year. That was just hat rural folks did, if you had a brain.

            • The Iranian ship may launch chem bio at the east coast once they get in range. That ship is a poor mans intercontinental delivery system.

            • Wonder if your dad was ever stationed in Morocco. Bouknadel Morocco was the only place I had ever heard “boocoo”.

              • ‘Beaucoup’ is French. It was used in Viet Nam.

            • Stupid is forever.

          • Don’t let your dad get punched in the stomach for a can of soup!

            • Where my dad lives, there are no “minority groups”.

              • Off Topic…

                Bank Of England Stress Testing Banks For Property Crash – Risk Of Bail-Ins

                “Preparations have been or are being put in place by the international monetary and financial authorities, including the Bank of England for bail-ins. The majority of the public are unaware of these developments, the risks and the ramifications.”
                -Zerohedge

            • sal, wasn’t that a cable commercial? Anyway, it’ll be a riot for sure with many casualties. Lord help this nation.

              • yes it is. The best thing that I like about that commercial? with a little humor it might wake someone up. If they actually think a short moment what grid down would be like, they might just wake the hell up. Also seeing a lot more stories around the nation on grid down possibilities. For me it was economic collapse that got me to thinking. For someone else it might be grid down while your dad is getting punched in the stomach to wake them up.

                • A good, realistic, eye-opening book on grid-down (via EMP) is William Forstchen’s “One Second After”. A must read to get the proper mind-set for long-term survival scenarios.

                  • JayQuePublic, I read that book and have highlighted many things that is of importance. I also read and have made notes on Lights Out by David Crawford.

            • Sal, excellent.

              • Panic is contagious. You can take someone in a crowd and they can start screaming and others join in and they FEEL afraid even if there is no seen threat. WHEN SHTF for example, when there is already tension in the air, you can watch when someone starts to pack in the groceries others follow. It is a very alarming domino effect that occurs. This is why preparation before hand or so important.

                Something else that is essential when it is possible. Catch the stores before the crowds do. This means while everyone else is watching the horror on TV unfold, this is the time for the prepper/Survivalist to act. There are plenty of perishable items or short term foods that someone can get before the crowds swamp the stores. The longer you can delay dipping into your long term supplies the better. Also this is an excellent time to go out and get fuel and additional ammo. Before even the feds have a chance to shut down everything. Minutes and sometimes seconds matter a lot. Always be ready to act at a moment’s notice.

                • Luckily that’ll never happen here.

                  Oh…wait…it is.

                • Big “O’ is flapping his gums on CNN, ALWAYS LYING…

                  • You really want mass panic? Big O comes out with the truth about ALL the things we don’t know and you would see men’s hearts failing them. Did you ever wonder why being the Pres puts 5 years on a guy for every year in office? It is an ole cliche but we as a society really couldn’t handle the truth.

                  • At least we all here know the “true” truth…

                  • The truth is “out of this world”! Literally! I come to SHTFPLAN because I CAN handle the truth.

                  • Exactly, eppe. His “State of the Union” is a case in point; nothing more than hot air full of lies. Every time he gives a speech, Big O always has to have his teleprompter when the speeches are delivered indoors; outdoors? He depends on written texts of the speech(es), if the teleprompter isn’t accessible or convenient.

                    Oh yeah, CNN, the most socialistic of the networks, is the one he uses most of the time; it mirrors his Marxist views exactly.

                • You are an ASS

                • “Panic is contagious” – really nailed that BI. That is exactly what will happen and when people panic they become totally irrational ….. and DANGEROUS!!

                  The rest of your post is spot on – except the ammo part, you should already have all of that you need. What you are hitting the stores early for are a few last minute perishables and maybe topping off the fuel supplies.

                  Aussie

                  • What you need is more than supplies and ammo. You also need the will to kill anyone that tries to overtake you. Pure and simple. If you can’t bring yourself to protect you and your family, you are done.

                  • All due respect, but ya can NEVER have ‘all the ammo you need’!

                  • Quick Test: to prove just how stupid and sheeplike most folks are. You & a friend go somhweres Outside in a public place….One of you begin to stare Up at the sky…Then have friend act as if he too “sees it”.

                    Then begin to Point Up at sky here or there as if “IT” really is Up there.

                    You will see how fast as many folks as are present at same location also begin to look Up and stare at the same sky looking furiously for “IT”…

                    Once that starts, in moments those other folks are going to begin chattering. Saying things like “Is That It? okay what about That over There as they begin to Point to “There”….Very soon after you begin this looking Up at “IT” test, most all present will begin to go daffy wondering what the hell is up there with so many folks looking at it etc…

                    They are DUMBED Down sheeps! They cannot help themselves from copycatting whatever others are doing.

                    If you two exit area, and then quickly return acting as if you two just arrived, and begin to inquire of folks “Gee what the hells going on”?

                    Most will outdo each other to offer the answer for you. Thats when the fantasy stories begins…UFO’s, to anything else they can dream up.

                    Just do NOT tell em all that there is simply Nothing Up there and “IT” isn’t there at all! or they will Riot against you for demolishing their fantasy bubble.

                    Most folks will believe most anything…But…The real truth. It is why most Eye witness acounts are bogus, to fabricated lies.

                • One can change their name, but a skunk
                  is still a skunk by any other name. Pe-yewww.

                • I wish the news media in Georgia would do some stories on prepared neighbors helping unprepared neighbors if they were sincerely appreciative. We could use the good press. Could help to open eyes of more folks. It is usually better to give than to receive.

                  • I am very lucky. I am a GA resident, and have neighbors that I’m very tight with. Politically we are on the same page, and if any of us needed ANYTHING, you can bet your last penny that none of us would do without. Too bad more communities are not like mine.

                  • You live in Jawja?

                  • OPSEC precludes going public.

                    I have trusted neighbors and we always help each other. They are on board with OPSEC.

                  • To be truthful, If people aren’t smart enough to see the problem and do something I’d just as soon they didn’t do anything. It’s these kinds of people who got us into this mess I’d just as soon they didn’t survive.

                  • Paranoid, that is a terrible thing to say. unfortunately that feeling may keep you alive as much as your preps. It is natural for us to want to help. The problem is so many people are not salvageable. … And if you try to help them it will spell your demise and there’s to eventually anyway.

                  • But Candle, then they’d be awfully close to having to admit that preppers were RIGHT…can’t have that.

                  • Them Guys,
                    You are so right. I was with a friend who works for a utility company. We were in the city for a conference and he looked up at a utility pole and was making comments to me about the way the wires were connected. We were at a crowded corner waiting for the light to change but we were back from the crowd and I doubt any one else could hear what we were talking about. But in a very short time most of the people around us started looking up in the air trying to figure out what we were looking at. My friend and I thought it was pretty funny at the time.

                    Since then we have joking about buying a property along the highway and putting up signs that say “Bigfoot Viewing Point”. Then have some one stand out there and just look into the brush. Just to watch the people who pull over and claim to see something. We think we could even get them to make donations to ‘save the Bigfoot”.

                • That is why when it happens and most of the sheep raid the stores for the last piece of moldy bread, I will be at the feed store laying in extra supplies for my farm

                  • MERREE: Indeed! Great idea IE Big foot plan! I read of a guy who put up a sign at his end of driveway by the street. His sign said “FEED MY DOGS! Only One Dollar!”

                    Many idoots pulled off road to go Pay him a dollar for a chance to feed His dogs! Some even asked him what can they feed dogs since they had zero doog food at hand?”

                    he also sold the fools his own dog food so they can Pay him a dollar fee to feed it to His dogs!

                    99% are stupid sheeps and will fall for most anything…Just look how many instant multi millionaires has been created in usa due to “isnt That amazeing! TV commercials selling Pure cheep made JUNK Items!”

                    All you ned do is think up something to sell or promote that aint already there…matters NOT what…As long as most folks aint got “It”….They are going to place an order to obtain “it”…Foolish sheeps. Easy to lead to own destruction!…Its main reason most still today even after so much contrary evidence etc believe whatever told of the great holyhoax events.

                    WE here get Pissed at NOT being told truth…that other 99% HATE being told truth if they already believe the various Lies!…And we never will change that fact I think.

                • thesocalledman. I will get more redthumbs than you, for this comment. But you and a few others just go to prove that “Censor Free Can Never Be” There are people that make comments that I disagree with, such as Them Guys,or POG, but we disagree on real issues. But just my opinion which is somthing everone has, is that this no place for personal attacks against other commenters on a forum such as this. Trekker Out.

                • I live in NC and am right in the middle of this snowstorm. I am so fortunate to be a prepper, even though my immediate family lives around me and they live their lives in Normalcy Bias… No one can describe the feeling of having everything I need and not having to go to a grocery store..I only hope that this event will wake some people before its too late.

                • B. I. I have this saying, and it tends to wake people up about certain things…. When seconds count… The police are just minutes away. Your post reminded me of that… Thanks WTF out

                  • @ Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. You know I have so many times been in the right place at the right time to take advantage of a sale, or get the last of a certain item I needed before someone snagged it. I could envision something like Israel attacking Iran for example and everyone watching the TV, internet, listening to the radio, whatever. Just like headlights memomizes a deer. This is the time that we have before the rush starts to get the additional needs for a long term time without much. There is plenty that anyone can get that we don’t have in our storage stockpiles.

                    This is the time when that wad of cash would really come in handle to flood the stores with because it could be instant that all credit is suspended everywhere. Stores will noramlly have a delay period before closing, this is that window of opportunity for the prepper/survivalist to move. Another good idea is to fill the vechicle to full if there is time enough to do it. Many people don’t think about the fuel gauge being empty to half and that the gas stations might be shut down by BO executive order. Keeping some empty 5-7 gallon plastic gas containers that can be filled up during this time to add to what you already have stored up is another idea. Those empty plastic gas containers that have never had any fuel in them also make real good containers for water.

                    The really difficult thing for any of us to do is to remain clear, calm, and leveled headed. After years of getting ready fro that moment when SHTF, the old anxious button switches on. Making a to do list WHEN SHTF is an excellent way of remembering what you need to do and get. I know my mind would be flying out in left field if some super catastrophe all of a sudden occurred. having that written down list can help clear your mind a bit and focus on what needs to be done. 🙂

                • yes you see that at wallymart where braindead people start grabbing some cheap china products on special that they realy dont need and in the process knocking little old ladies over to obtain it.

            • Sal sounds like you work for DISH. Trekker Out.

          • Panic is the new Meme

            • Looks like some parts of N.C. are going thru what ATL did 2 weeks ago….

              • It might be off topic, but definitely important info!
                Thank you KY. Mom.

                From TN boy

              • eppe, Started snowing in the mountains in wnc at 7am. Still snowing as I type this. Expected to continue through the night. Bugged in stocked and warm. Generator is ready if needed. Will ride it out at home.

              • I had that charge show up and yes it was compromised. Chase canceled it immediately.

                Shopped at Target a couple times and the hackers got me.

                • All of us should use cash instead of credit.

              • KY Mom, notice that a dollar sign without the “S” is a “1”, So the amount would read “1984”. It’s the same idea as using an exclamation point as an “I” or a dollar sign as a “S”.

          • The storm hit last night and a friend of mine posted on Facebook yesterday that she was looking for firewood – literally a couple hours before it hit. That is the mindset of most!

          • OutWest

            So I guess Lake Superior is 87% frozen. About time to take a walk out to the islands.

            I have a flat bird feeder that I built 4 feet off the ground. Every time I fill it I have to dig the damn thing out so the doves and bluejays can get to it. More snow and wind today. I love it…..

            Whats wrong with that box of Pita Chips?

            • And why are the bread, eggs and milk the first things they fight over? Is EVERYONE making French Toast?
              I have never understood that.

              • The bread and milk thing is all about school closing and food for kids being home who normally eat at school. Many kids get both breakfast and lunch these days at school. In this case it really is all about the kids.

                I always have a good supply of powdered milk, and we make our own bread anyway, so I just laugh when there’s a run on these items. The bread machine can be set up the night before so the fresh bread is ready for breakfast. The smell of fresh bread cooking eliminates the need for an alarm clock.

                I always buy powdered milk in sealed packets that make one quart at a time. It stays fresher this way. If it ever expires, just use it as plant food in the garden and you get to eat it anyway then!

              • Here in the south, the milk is for making snow cream. And some people put eggs in their snow cream. I don’t. I just use snow, milk, sugar, and vanilla extract.

                And the bread is for sandwiches. Whenever the power goes off, we dump ice in a cooler and pull all the sandwich fixings out of the refrigerator and put them in the cooler. That way we can keep the refrigerator shut until the power comes back on. The sandwiches are just for lunch. We cook with gas, so we keep cooking as usual.

              • Crazy thing is that the idiots will fight over bread, but flour will go untouched. Idiots have to have everything handed to them. 1 week after a shtf, I will still be eating bread because ough I have enough brains to stock up on things like flour and powdered eggs.

                Expensive generators are great, but any redneck can rig up a small lawnmower engine to run a car altenator and provide all the power you might need.

            • Wrong – lol

              Yeah, for an old greyback like me, it
              would be my first Coast Guard rescue.

              For sure, the wildlife taking it tough.
              The deer are fuzzy-faced, starving and
              freezing to death here.

              Haven’t seen a turkey in a month. With
              no leg feathers, their feet freeze off
              and they can’t walk or roost.

              The squirrels too, very few. They freeze
              in their den trees and leaf nests.

              We’ll remember this as a winter from hell.
              Still got a recipe or two for you whenever.

              • High death rate in beef cows all over the southeastern states. Poor quality hay from last year plus the unusual cold is taking its toll.

            • I was wondering the same thing. Most people don’t know what its like you really be hungry. You’ll eat anything…..

            • Wrong, if the lake is THAT frozen, perhaps you could just take a drive to the islands…just don’t stay too long.

          • Brought from the last article: I hope my great great great grand children are riding horses and shooting buffalo with a bow and living in a “healing” world we have poisoned. We are reaching peak everything, water (huge problem) oil, farm land is toxic, all the easy mining of ore is gone, our infrastructure is crumbling, our cities are decaying, municipalities are bankrupting, our currency is damn near dead, we have built mega bombs of destruction and yet you fvkers want washing machines and computer systems? WTF is wrong with you people? have you no eyes to see? Modern Civilization and materialism is the problem.

            • .02
              Wouldn’t it be great if we could watch them do that.
              Sgt.

            • Horses and candles…

              That might be enough for most of the sheeple to off themselves in this cesspool of narcessistic materialism!

              I can just hear Moochell Obummer saying…

              Let them eat gluten free cake

              • There’s nothing wrong with “gluten free” cake.

              • when i saw the picture today of the apocalypse COW with her dogs with jewels on, sitting at a TABLE, it just made me want to barf. i swear, either one of those two sitting in the SPITE HOUSE could make a BISHOP kick out a stained glass window!and where does eric holder think he’s going?….aint gonna keep him outa PRISON.

            • .02,
              Anyone who thinks that Obama gives a damn about anything like you posted earlier is too stupid to have an opinion worth even reading. Yeah I mean you. You sound like a ten year old. Destroying the world! You would not last a week in a non modern world before you would be whining about how hard life is.

            • In that world you are dreaming of for your great grandchildren, they will die before their 3rd birthday.

              Be careful what you wish for.

              Civilisation is salvation, not a problem.

        • If you are anywhere east of thee Mississippi you wont be laughing.

          • Ice is the problem here in GA, but here are some laughs… Yes, maybe most of yall have heard these before, remember others have not…

            Have you ever spoken and wished that you could immediately take the words
            back…or that you could crawl into a hole? Here are the testimonials of a
            few people who did….

            I walked into a hair salon with my husband and three kids in tow and asked
            loudly, “How much do you charge for a shampoo and a blow job?” I
            turned around and walked back out and never went back. My husband didn’t say
            a word … he knew better.

            I was at the golf store comparing different kinds of golf balls. I was
            unhappy with the women’s type I had been using. After browsing for several
            minutes, I was approached by one of the good-looking gentlemen who works at
            the store. He asked if he could help me. Without thinking, I looked at him
            and said, “I think I like playing with men’s balls.”

            My sister and I were at the mall and passed by a store that sold a variety
            of candy and nuts. As we were looking at the display case, the boy behind
            the counter asked if we needed any help. I replied, “No, I’m just looking at
            your nuts.” My sister started to laugh hysterically, the boy grinned, and I
            turned beet-red and walked away.

            While in line at the bank one afternoon, my toddler decided to release some
            pent-up energy and ran amok. I was finally able to grab hold of her after
            receiving looks of disgust and annoyance from other patrons. I told her that
            if she did not start behaving “right now” she would be punished. To my
            horror, she looked me in the eye and said in a voice just as threatening,
            “If you don’t let me go right now, I will tell Grandma that I saw you
            kissing Daddy’s pee-pee last night!”
            The silence was deafening after this enlightening exchange. Even the tellers
            stopped what they were doing. I mustered up the last of my dignity and
            walked out of the bank with my daughter in tow. The last thing I heard when
            the door closed behind me were screams of laughter.

            This had most of the state of Michigan laughing for 2 days and a very
            embarrassed female news anchor who will, in the future, likely think before
            she speaks. What happens when you predict snow but don’t get any….a true
            story… We had a female news anchor who, the day after it was supposed to
            have snowed and didn’t, turned to the weatherman
            and asked: “So Bob, where’s that 8 inches you promised me last night?”
            Not only did HE have to leave the set, but half the crew did too they were
            laughing so hard!

            You’re laughing, huh? Now, didn’t that feel good?
            Pass it on to someone you know who needs a laugh.

            • @ Eppe…That is epic!

              • They just convicted Nagin of New Orleans for 20 charges…
                Momma always said,”Stupid is as stupid does”…

                • Hopefully he’ll be riding the ” chocolate” train to “chocolate” city while he’s in prison.

                  • Mcdave: I think you mean that Old Ray Negligence is going to experience a massive train down “His” Hershey Highway.

                • My bets are since he is one of them, a slapped wrist, possible fine he will never pay, and probation.

                • It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy !

              • @ eppe and Npgh. Practically no one down south has snow chains/cables or snow tires. People are not ready for snow of this level. Snow tires are softer and hug to the road more so. Studded tires are even better. Someone with snow cables can easily go through several inches of snow. Friends of mine have used snow chains and gone through almost 2 feet of very heavy wet snow, as well as many inches of other types of snow. Snow cables run about $50-$100 for the front wheels but I imagine they would be very difficult to find in the southern states. Sand or gravel for getting out of stuck spots I also think would be harder to purchase now also. Hope you all stay safe.

                • BI; glad to see your still inputting good info, problem down south is we do not put the monies into situations like an ice storm like we are experiencing now. We just stay home. I have a bag of kitty litter in the truck for bad spots also. With that said, I want to apoligize for saying some things that I did to you know who….
                  I am not like that, but he did push the limit, and needed to be cleared from the site. Also thank you Mac for doing what needed to be done. We all here want to see this site prosper, but certain posters do not need to spew the filth as what we saw. Again everyone, I apoligize for some of my outbursts, like some other of us have done.

                  • So did Eisen finally get the boots?

                  • NO, he is now “theman”, get ready for more bs guys and gals…

                  • Nope.*sigh* Eisen you are a perfect example of a sociopath narcissist.

                  • I guy I know recently charged someone with cyber-bullying. The complainant took a copy of the posts to his local police and let them do all the work of tracking down the offender. They upgraded the charges to felonies. He hasn’t gone to court yet, but it looks like the offender is going to get time and major fines.

                  • A sinkhole swallowed some Corvettes in a KY museum, some worth lots of cash. Too bad Sybil E.’s house could not be the next one. Sure would be a prayer come true…

                  • Maudy Frickett cyber-bullying. NOW there is a huge slippery slope. Of course it is a felony, goodby guns and ammo. The world is truly going insane. Now we are all doomed to saying have a nice day, I am so sorry I would like to disagree but my lawyer says I cant b/c of the cyber bullying laws. It would be nice to have an open discussion but alas I cant agree 110% on everything so I cant say anything. cyber-bullying is such a fvking joke i cant believe a law exists. God help us as we are truly doomed.

                • BI, I’m from Alabama. I remember when I was a kid back in ’93, a huge blizzard came through which knocked out power for weeks. We lived out in the boondocks far from town. My dad fired up the wood heater and it was so hot inside we had to keep the front door open to cool off. He isn’t a Yankee and knows nothing about the North or cold weather, but did have a pair of snow chains stashed away for just such an emergency, and had no problem driving that old GMC when needed. We mostly sat around burning oil lamps and listening to the radio, with all sorts of idiots calling in to bitch and complain and panic about having no power or heat.

                  A couple weeks back when the first “Polar Vortex” came through and iced down everything, you would not believe the chaos down South. Kept hearing excuse after fucking excuse why people could not have foreseen it, why they weren’t prepared and it was someone else’s fault, etc. One girl’s excuse was she “had never seen” a pair of snow chains in her life. I said if my dad could be intelligent enough to own some back in ’93, then in 2014 she damn sure could easily order some off Amazon.com! I wonder if she ever ordered any? Haha….yeah right. Bitch is probably sitting at home right this minute, totally helpless.

                  • she couldn’t put chains on if she had some anyway. Might get someone from up north down there on vacation to maybe show her, but my guess is even the men in the south would look like a deer in the headlights if you handed them a pair.

                  • listening to wsbradio.com right now as ice is forming in Atlanta. I highly suggest it, interesting phone calls coming in.

                  • .02, you would be right! That one girl talking about “never having seen” snow chains was in an argument on Facebook. There were two or three others on there arguing as well. One guy said I was absolutely right about the need to buy some snow chains, and that he should also go get volcano insurance as well cause that makes just as much sense. (Same genius also believed it would be best for the state to buy and maintain a fleet of salt trucks. Cause that makes a lot of fucking sense in a state that might need them once a decade, right?) Some other guy sarcastically mentioned he needed to go get a malaria vaccination, you know, to be ready for anything. Finally the guy whose wall we were posting on deleted my comments and removed me from his “friends” list. lol.

                    What do you want to bet not a single one of these stupid dipshits bothered to follow my advice and get a $50 pair of snow chains off Amazon?

                    Can’t wait for the big reset to come. It will put an end to countless worthless people.

                  • shiftless, as Ron White says.. life is hard, it is harder if you are stupid.

                • Here in eastern Kentucky very few have snow tires. (I don’t know anyone around here that has snow tires on their car or truck.)

                  So, if it snows or even forecasts snow, schools close. Most people (if they can) will just stay home. People will listen to the local radio station for snow schedule announcements.

                • @ Eppe…I have said some pretty stupid things myself and my sister had a classic! We just don’t realize what comes out of our mouths til it is too late and we already said it. Anybody who is honest with themselves know this to be true. That’s why I loved your post!
                  @ BI…the snow, as you know, isn’t the problem. It’s the ice. I live in the Ohio Valley and we have our share of snow and ice. The ice is the problem. When in drapes the trees and power lines and roof tops, there isn’t a damn thing to do about it but be prepared for power outages by stocking up (or already be stocked ) on fuel and food. True story…my old neighbor was 97 years old and until just a two or three years prior to her fall she still pulled her own weeds and gardened. On that fatefull New Years Day she stepped out to retrieve the Pittsburgh Post Gazzette when the night before we had an ice storm, and she slipped in “global warming”. She broke her hip and shortly after was put in a nursing home and died within six months. I and many of us feel she would have lived to see 90 if it wasn’t for her fall. God Bless Her! Many years before when I was her paper girl she gave me some very old recipes that I still have and use to this day.
                  Anyway…ice is the killer. Even if you stay home and don’t drive anywhere, you still have to be very carefull heading out into your own yard. The southerners have little experience with this sort of weather and I can see their confusion. Mabey this is God’s way of teaching them a lesson in preparedness? One more short personal story…we like to hike. One Thanksgiving week we went to the Smokey Mountians and the gap between the states was closed because of the snow made the trip by car too dangerous. When they opened the gap the day before Thanksgiving the southerners traveling north that had never seen that much snow where stopping by the roadside and letting their kids out to make these little “dashboard” snowmen. It was too cute to watch the kids so happy to see snow play in it and roll these tiny snow men together! They put little twigs in for arms and legs and placed them on the family car where the windshield wipers are. Most southerners passing north had these little snow men on them! Us northerners loved seeing the amazement and wonder in the kids eyes! Moral…there is always something new to learn!

                  • I had a typo and want to edit. Mrs. Johnson would have lived to 100 years old if she didn’t break her hip on ice and landed in the nursing home.

                  • Npgh,

                    Unfortunately that is a common scenario for older ladies– one slip and a broken hip — leads to surgery to a lengthy recovery or they “circle the drain” to death. Bottom line, if you know of an older woman, make sure she stays inside and can stay safely in place for that extended period. All it takes is one slip.

                    Country girl

            • eppe,

              That is hilarious! 🙂

              Thank you for sharing!

              • I see ‘the abomination’ has returned under a different name. Mac, are we condemned to a life of suffering under this troll?

                • No matter what name IT posts under, I can and will still red-thumb IT to death. Everyone else continue “the battle of the red thumbs”.

            • Eppe,, thank You. I needed that.

            • Eppe, those are all things I’d say ON PURPOSE, just to see the reactions. No embarrassment here…I’d be the one laughing when the door closed.

            • Eppe,
              Here are a few mistakes that were made when doctors were dictating charts using computerized transcription.

              Patient suffered from “nausea and vomiting” transcribed as “Nazi bombing”.

              Discharge instructions:
              Instead antiviral Acyclovir patient was prescribed “a cycle of beer”.

              Instead of bland diet, patient instructed “plan to die”.

            • More humor please. 🙂

          • I think we have Peaked on Stoopidy!!!!

            God, Guns and Guts we”ll Make it Through!!!

            Semper Fi

            • God, Guns and Guts we”ll Make it Through!!

              Through to ? What will be left?

        • hahahahahaha!!!!! Can anyone laugh better?

        • I live north of ATL & the panic of the people around here is funny.

        • Atlanta is 60% black. Why does this suprise anybody?

          • Amen, enough said…

            • Eppe, until we can finally get rid of the troll, all we can do is red-thumb the hell out of him. Anything stronger would be Mac’s decision to make. Now IT calls ITSELF ‘the man’? No, it’s more like ‘the sodomite’.

            • Then perhaps if its a real message from God as someone suggested?…Maybe the Real message is “Look how swell it all looks when everything is WHITE!” as in white Snow covering it All!

              Yesterday some tv news weather or maybe was weather channel, was useing words such as “Catastrophic” storm! “Snowmageddon”! etc etc….Total propaganda fear tactics eh. If down south’s inch or two of snow and 1/4 in of ice on a road is a catastrophy?

              Hope they never venture to Mich’s Upper Penn eh! Normal wimter in UP of mich is OVER 300+ inch snow yearly!

              If them city dewller monkys had to remain inbound homes due to several FEET of snow….They’d go absolutly APE Shit!

            • Then perhaps if its a real message from God as someone suggested?…Maybe the Real message is “Look how swell it all looks when everything is WHITE!” as in white Snow covering it All!

              Yesterday some tv news weather or maybe was weather channel, was useing words such as “Catastrophic” storm! “Snowmageddon”! etc etc….Total propaganda fear tactics eh. If down south’s inch or two of snow and 1/4 in of ice on a road is a catastrophy?

              Hope they never venture to Mich’s Upper Penn eh! Normal wimter in UP of mich is OVER 300+ inch snow yearly!

              If them city dewller monkys had to remain inbound homes due to several FEET of snow….They’d go absolutly APE Shit!

        • Let’s reclaim OUR TRUE DESTINY together.

          http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/

          If we convene a “Common Law Grand Jury”, the people will come.

          http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/what-happend-constitution

          Please listen to this radio interview…the man carries himself WELL, from NYC of all places!

          I am beginning to believe in miracles friends.

          You are too, please consider joining us.

          http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/files/radio/14-1-24%20Awake%20and%20Empowered%20Radio.mp3

          Scout.

        • this is site for Atlanta newspaper with people talking about the ice storm, and what they are doing/need/didn’t prepare for http://www.ajc.com/s/news/shoutouts/

        • My daughter lives in Atlanta, and I’ve warned her over and over and over about this… all she did was say mean, cruel things to me- attacking me. Well….

          • She probably has other issues besides you warning her about the ice. Should have got her that pony. Now she hates you. Poor little thing.

        • I saw on TV a little while ago, that Atlanta and other cities down south could be without electricity for DAYS!! My daughter lives down there and I have TOLD HER OVER AND OVER AGAIN to stock up… I tried to stock up when visiting her- bought her tons of food and hid water around the house. She always found it and used it up… refused to listen to me… Now, this has occurred.

          • You did what you could.

          • Eventually your bullshit will take you out of the equasion…

          • How the fuck would you know, “the-ain’t-no-man”, all you do is write stupid comments on this board. She’s one year from getting a doctorate degree… can you say the same for yourself?! IF YOU REALLY ARE YOUNG, why the hell you keep coming to these boards? Why aren’t you out working, getting a career for yourself like most young people. At least she doesn’t sit back, crying, blaming other people for her bad luck… like you do! You Fucking idiot!

            • Amen Anon, he is a legend in his own mind, as screwed up as it is…

            • Anon, dont feed em.lol

              • Might I make and observation and correct it if you can.
                I know about the 3 trillion missing form the defense fund in 2002. I read a few weeks ago another 3 trillion was discovered unaccounted for.
                Now if the latter is true, and it is 6 trillion, can you imagine the manufacturing jobs that would have created??

                • Can you imagine the manufacturing jobs that would have created? the answer is Zero None. All government spending is a Tax. The end results of all the Taxing & spending is the same no matter where or what it is spent on. the building of the bunkers like Mt Weather does kinda create some manufacturing jobs . the workers hired, materials used the equipt and fuel cost do make some jobs and add to the economy but the gain or loss is the same no matter were or how its spent. The government spending always is a negative because the parasite government doesn’t produce anything. myself I would rather it was spent on the roads & infrastructure that all citizen,s could possibly benefit from.

                  • The parasite government , as you stated yourself, does produce many vitally essential things, like roads, water and electrical service (LADWP), and the over looked fact that we have the CDC which keeps many types of diseaes out of the USA. Compare us to Mexico for example – the germs and viruses don’t come up to our borders and say, “Oh that is the USA and we don’t go there.” The CDC constantly watches for and controls many diseases that you have no idea about. This said, 90% of the military and many other agencies are just criminal theft from us.

          • Sounds like a little “tough love” is in order. Wait until she digs through a few dumpsters for dinner, THEN offer her your wisdom. She might pay a bit more attention.

          • Maybe you should butt out. You sound like an overbearing know it all busybody. No wonder she finds you strange.

            • @John W: a father showing concern for his daughter? Perfectly normal (what planet are you from?) maybe you should take your own advice, make yourself scarce, and you can definitely get the duck sick IF you know what I mean. Yeah, you know you’re probably doing right now ain’t ya?

        • Actually people are starting to see preppers as main stream…. When Wal-Mart starts carrying emergency food (as does Sam’s and Costco)… that means folks are done whistling past the grave yard and they are starting to get it. How many of your friends now want to discuss with you how to prepare. PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS…. And mentor the newbies.

          • Looks like all of E’s (theman) posts got scrapped again. Does that happen when they log a certain number of red thumbs? Whatever the case, it is a welcomed sight.

            • Oops. I have no clue how this posts ended up here. Was supposed to go to the end of the page.

          • I’d like to find one of those WalMarts that carries emergency foods. None of them in this part of the country carry them.

            • Here in Oregon, the local Gresham WinCo carries mountain house and some other MRE’s.

              • You Oregon guys are having a tough Winter. The old ladys family lives in Yamhill and Vernonia and they have been getting froze and buried in snow like back in the 1950s Winters.

                • Absolutely JW. But I’m toasty warm and I don’t care if the stores close or the gas station doesn’t pump for a while, I’m good. It’s amazing how much beauty we miss, because we have to worry about the adverse effects of snow and ice. I life pretty close to a ski resort and and a bit of snow is a good thing here.

                  I sincerely hope your people in Oregon come through okay.

                  • “It’s amazing how much beauty we miss, because we have to worry about the adverse effects of snow and ice.”

                    Agree sixpack! Here, power was out most of yesterday, freezing rain, everything closed. So we grabbed our umbrellas, bundled up, and walked the neighborhood marveling at the frozen limbs (some of them split off trees and in the roadways or on the ground) and the sheer beauty of this ice storm. Then back in front of the fireplace when we were returned. We didn’t miss the beauty, and were happier for it.

                    ~GV

            • Go online and order what you need. Comes right to your door, no sales tax.

            • The one in Salem, MA does. I took a picture of it this past fall, because I was so impressed. “September is preparedness month” was the theme. They had huge stacks of freeze-dried meals right at the front entrance to the store.

          • Can you buy long term storage at Walmart, Sam’s, and Costco locations or on-line orders only? I wanted to order more buckets of grain, but Costco only sold it on line to be delivered to your house. I can already do that through Honeyville. Looking for a place where I can buy and pick up locally with cash.

        • It sure will be nice to trade a few silver coins and a few cans of beans for the best blowjob of my life….EVERYDAY!

          I was reading in Greece and other countries that hookers are everywhere trying to make ends meet.

          http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-22/greek-prostitution-soars-150-youth-unempoyment-hits-75-some-areas

          Shit…I’ll take two.

          Yeah…. being a successful white male in this economy sure has weeded the dating pool.
          The ladies tell me that most men have shit jobs.

          PUSSY TOWN SHTF. LET IT RIP!

          I’m such a player!

          ps. Who cares what all you religious people think….better lock up your daughters. ha
          I’m in Dating mode! Cha chinging.

          • Man Cave,

            You think you are a player, but in reality you are just an immature punk because you advocate disrespecting the marriage bed and no doubt you engage in this disrespect.

            Disrespect of the marriage bed encouraged by hollywood and our broken culture is one of the main contributors causing our society to be in shambles. The wild oats you sow that manage to germinate into a human life end up in the abortion mills, if they manage to survive the abortion mills they most likely end up being raised in a single parent home without the benefit of a mature father’s input to sculpt them into a good citizen. Some of these kids may end up doing okay, but it is an up hill struggle for them. Our criminal gangs and prisons are mostly populated by the grown seed of immature punks like you that disrespected the marriage bed.

            A mature man wouldn’t participate in the activity you boast about because of the clearly evident harmful results of such debauched activity. You should seriously consider trying to grow up.

            Ciao,

            The Wild Goose

            p.s. “Doing wickedness is like sport to a fool,
            And so is wisdom to a man of understanding.” Proverbs 10:23

        • @ TnAndy one problem i see with that is NOBODY will be LAUGHING!

        • I went to the local store and just stood and watched the carnage in amazement. I have been through 10 hurricanes in FL before moving to GA and I never saw the insanity like I’d did a couple of days ago. All this was for a two or three day storm. I always keep two loaves in the freezer on a regular day. lol. What got me was all of the frozen food people were buying and hardly no canned food or dry goods. A lot of good that will do you with no power for weeks???

        • He who laughs last…thinks slowest.

      2. You don’t panic over bread when you know how to make your own. I’ll just stay in and put together a puzzle or something. Let it snow! They are calling for 12 inches here with about 3/4 inch of ice on top.

        • Highspeedloafer, we’re supposed to get something similar in my area today. Did some shopping over the weekend, so I’m in damn good shape. It’s called PREPPING.

          • Herman, you better shut up unless you want a dose of 00 buckshot from Bertha and I’m sure the “Old Geezer” could kick your ass from point A to point B.

          • You just don’t get it. I’ve been prepping in one way or another for 50 years. I don’t keep enough water & fuel but otherwise we could shut the door for over a year. Still go to the store for bread, milk and eggs; if a storm is comming. Not going to use up my stuff for a short problem. People who do that use it up and run low.

            • Waisted? I’m in PANAMA right now with my wife, the back gate opens onto the Pacific, but it’s nicer to swim in the pool. Been here for a month, will be here for another 3 weeks, then Cal for two, then home to Wyo until I go to our house in Ohio where my: Farm, Oil wells and apartments are. But we should go to Idaho where my wife’s land is. To bad sucker, I retired at 50 with more than I’ll ever need.

              • And a million dollars is nothing to a liar. A liar can have as many millions as they want.

        • True enough!
          I make my own bread, it is real easy,
          1 tbs salt
          2 tbs yeast
          3 cups warm water
          Combine and let sit 20 minutes
          Add
          6.5 cups flour
          Mix completely (i use my hands wetted under the faucet)
          Let sit 1.5-2 hrs
          Break into even pieces and shape( i usually make 2 long loaves)
          Bake @ 425 for 32-35 minutes

          • Easy, yes. Tasty…………. I think not.. 😀

          • no sugar??

          • This is a real multi-task multi-tool.
            1.Productive work, not just consumption
            2.Warms house while baking
            3.House smells heavenly
            4.Good practice
            5.Only 4 ingredients and I can pronounce them all
            6.Good for the soul and the body

          • Kula, Just curious, have they managed to get wheat to grow there yet? I know they were experimenting with corn back in the 80’s.

          • I get lazy and just make flour tortillas. Today I made some chicken vegetable soup with some ramen noodle seasoning packets I had thrown in a drawer. I eat 2 packets for a meal, but use only one seasoning packet.

            The results was a pot of chunky chicken soup with rice and vegetables. I put the leftovers in the fridge to help ward off the cold weather later. I’m good to go no matter what happens to the power.

          • KULA: but remember to…”Beware of the Levin(yeast!) of the…Pharisee’s”!!…J.C.

          • @kulafarmer…tried recipe today…great survival bread with minimum ingredients and effort! Could possibly add herbs for different results?
            Thanks for sharing this!
            fob

        • When did folks stop having crackers and soup on the shelf?
          I had that always before I started stocking/storing for whatever.
          This is just stupid.

        • Highspeed-

          Ditto 2hrs north of ya..this could be a replay of what we got hit w/ a decade+ ago..no power for 7 days 15-17 inches of snow.
          The ice wiped out many a tree and the power-lines.

          ..good to go here… Hooked up the box-blade & the front end-loader earlier..will be plowing/scrapping driveways tomorrow, as out here in the sticks, snow plows are non-existent!

          ..am now attempting to thaw-out!!!
          +4-5 inches already as of 15:15hrs.

          Good luck, bro’…all the best to you/yours.

          • Back at you Hunter. Yeah, I’ve got to get the church lot cleaned good before Sunday. The ladies don’t want any snow on their toes ya know.

            • Yeah, something about falling on your well-groomed ass in a parking lot full of people is “undignified”.

              • What? Nobody else gets embarrassed in a nice dress, with their feet in the air after a fall? I know I do. My skirt always ends up around my hips and my knees NEVER end up being together…that’s just the dynamics of “a slip and fall”…

        • What is it about snow that makes people crave French toast? Anyplace with a heavy concentration of blacks will immediately slip into chaos in any crisis. African are animals. Good only for use as beasts of burden.

          • Biggot,you should not be that way! I lived in Cleveland Oh. for 5 years; met hundreds of blacks, there were at least 5 of them darn good people. As for the rest: “Beasts of Burden”?are you kidding? Who wants a lazy, stupid, drugged up mule?

          • I experimented with powdered eggs once. I made french toast with them and they worked great. I’ve used powdered eggs in cake. I’ve scrambled them and made omelets…powdered eggs won’t make mayonnaise though…bummer.

            • Powered egg whites will. With a little whipping cream. Its not REAL MAYO but oh well

            • @sixpack….do you dry them yourself? I do, and have had great results reconstituting them. Many instructions online, but I use those presented by Phyllis Hobson.
              fob

              ps. also follow her instructions for drying milk

              • Right on FOB and P’noid, thanks.

      3. It still kills me how 3 inches of snow can shut down miles of highway. Of course, I was born and raised in Maine and drove Camaros through over a foot of snow many times…

        • In my area if we get just ONE INCH of snow, everyone panics and don’t even know how to drive in it.

        • It’s ice & sleet not snow. Plus there is just no equipment to deal with it. Thankfully our local govt is smart enough not to spend money on the equipment they normally only need to use once every 3-4 years! I’m sure that fool obama will find a way to make them after 2 storms in a row.

        • In Michigan, I don”t even get Concerned until we get ten or More Cars in the Ditch Per Mile!!!

        • that must be where 327 came from.. old Camaro?

        • About 5 years ago, there was so much snow in Maine, snow was coming off the metal roofs and caving in the first floor windows. My boat windshield and seats were crushed. We had to dig down to the top of our 500 gal propane tank to turn on the gas, I don’t want to hear about a foot of snow

      4. I copy a lot of these articles and e-mail them to my personal mailing list. I try to dress them up with snappy titles and funny comments in the hope they’ll be read. But just as sure as God made little green apples some of the addressees are going to look at the sender (me) and sigh “not another doomsday prediction” and delete it before even opening it.
        I used to know a lady who was a Jehovah’s Witness. When I asked her why they continued to go door to door and bother people she told me their intention is to sound a warning. If the warning goes unheeded there’s nothing they can do but at least they’ve tried.
        I’ll do it anyhow. I’m no JW but at least I try to sound the warning.

      5. Come and take it! I am ready. Good luck to the rest of ya.

        • You may have prepared for starving looters, and can likely fend off small parties of people trying to take what you have, but are you prepared for a coordinated attack from a heavily armed band of pillagers?

          You better be, because you can be assured they are preparing for you.

          • .02, let them come try it; I have something they DON’T want.

            • Yes they can and Brave and I know it. But they won’t take down a lot of us and still be a big anything. Someone has to thin them out, and your kind sure won’t be of use.

          • “You better be, because you can be assured they are preparing for you”

            “They” might just be Govt.

            • Bingo McDave, hard to prepare against a howitzer.

            • That’s what bothers me, McD. I’ve got the attitude of a charging rhino and most people get out of my way, but taking on a heavily armed group of men with badges and the “legal” authority to kill me, is another story.

              I fear the cops more than the crooks.

          • Got to die from something. At least they won’t be getting any ammo.

            • You know what they say: “you can’t take it with you” and “use it or lose it”.

            • SWFL..I agree. Far better to die free on your feet than as a slave on your knees.

              Faith…Family…Freedom…Forever

              fob

      6. I’m here in PA where when we got the ice storm last week 700,000 plus people went with out power. We were only out for 4 plus days but people are stupid and don’t prepare. People do not even have a way to heat there home. Since Sandy people are a little more prepared but not enough. I know tonight there will be people fighting in stores for the bread milk and eggs that they don’t even normally have in there houses on a regular day. I think people in general are a joke. On another note i hope people will prepare and see the warning signs. but we all know how that goes.
        The south got 2 inches of snow and it shuts down the cities. Its just crazy that that can bring a whole city to there knees.

        • Azam; I’m to your east, and what makes me crazy is seeing these people who lost power giving their story on the news and saying that they had to throw away all of the food in their fridge and freezer. Umm… What??? Its 20 degrees outside! And these people can’t even realize that they can store food on their patio, in their garage, etc until the power comes back.

          GR

          • Common sense is lacking everywhere…

            • I’ve got the same problem in Memphis.

          • I just saw this last night:

            “Think of how stupid the average person is, and the remember that half of them are stupider than that

            And that half lives in Atlanta…….

            • “And that half lives in (insert your city here)”

        • Azam, the storm here was just a few hours old and already by 10 am there were 250,000 without power in the south. Gonna be a long cold night or two for many.

        • Know what you mean. It was 84 here today and I had to turn the AC in the truck way up. Weird having to use AC all Winter. Even been turning on the whole house fan. Then again when there is no water this Summer you guys can laugh.

      7. I think this article over-estimates the general public. Anyone with eyes just has to look around and see all the overweight tubs of shit waddling around looking for their next twinkie and 1 gallon big gulp fix. Most people today can’t walk a mile to safe their life. Most can’t walk a set of stairs without taking a breather at the top. Many, many people are on meds and they won’t have them so it is going to be a big interesting show if the S ever does HTF. Todays man can be repelled with a BB gun.

        • Did anyone here know approximately 66% of ALL psychotropic drugs on the entire planet are consumed by Americans? WHEN the SHTF; its going to get very interesting in the good ole U.S. of A.

        • Warface, those tubs of lard are going to be really dangerous in any post-SHTF situation. One or two quick shots to the head will be the only solution for them.

          • Fat asses will only be dangerous if you cap ’em and they fall on you.

      8. No amount of preps will save you from your well and
        Spring going dry.
        Talk about prepper panic!!!
        That was the last straw..
        Just gave away 2 yrs worth of food
        Packed up everything else and headed north
        Now I’m a gypsy so to speak camping out where ever
        I guess I’m ahead now that all is cached for 1000 miles
        Lots o water round here
        The sign out front said
        “Welcome to Jefferson”

      9. The worst I’ve seen in my immediate area is that the stores close without prior warning because electric goes out due to storms or a major gas leak recently forced evacs.

      10. I can understand not having a loaf of bread in the house, you just ran out, right?

        But to not have bread, eggs, milk, juice, butter, canned soup, any fresh fruit or vegetables, bag of rice, a couple cans of vegetables, couple cans of tomatoes, a few potatoes, a box of pasta, can of sauce, and a pound of burger and a couple of chickens in the freezer, all at the same time?

        People must be living off of McDonalds’ and calzones, they sure aren’t doing any cooking at home if their cupboards don’t have something like a week of eating in them.

      11. Here in SC, most people are staying home.Monday,was a super busy day at the grocery stores and gas stations.

        Most people are realizing being prepared before a storm and staying put is wise.

      12. Only the UNprepared did this, this may have happened in some spots of ATL, but I myself NEVER saw any of this, maybe because we were already prepped?

      13. Pretty soon the snow and ice will start to melt. Roofers are going to be real busy. Insurance adjusters will be working overtime, too. All that ice got underneath the shingles, and when it melts it will come inside your residence. Foundations will leak. Seapage in the basement, if you got one. Everyone near the creek or river can expect high water. Get everything up higher now. Prepare to get out quick if you are real close to the water. Better to get out before hand. Beat the rush. Get the stuff you need to fight mold right now. That way you won’t find it sold out when you need it.

        • Good advice Miss Maudy, they might also want to lay in a few bags of rock salt too.

        • A warm front up from the Gulf and this stuff will be gone in a few hours. Of course then you will have tornadoes where the cold and warm collide. Can’t win.

      14. “First they’ll target businesses likely grocery stores, warehouses, and restaurants. When those are picked clean, they’ll go door-to-door”. And that’s when the thinning of the herd begins

        • If I spotted a herd coming up my driveway, the thinning would start long before they got to my door bell.

        • don’t forget to stock up on a good supply of thick garbage bags. If a civil war broke out, there’s going to be alot of corpses around and that brings diseases. Its possible that Neighborhoods will be filled with dead bodies everywhere.

      15. I have seen this before, Too many times but the Sheeple and the Zombies just don’t learn. I don’t feel a bit sorry for the folks that are raiding the stores.

        Just think if an EMP, Solar Flare, Earth Quake or what ever was to hit what it will look like.
        I’m wait for riots to break out when there is a extended emergency like a Ice storm.

        Being a Survivalist/Prepper. to me this is just a frigging winter storm. What the hell is the big deal.
        I know that the power is going to go out and it is cold, but they should have prepared for it. Hell they just had one just little over a week ago. They will come running with their hands out wanting money to help them get back on their feet. It’s up to you if you want to help! For me I’m going to give to the Church I’m a member of. I don’t trust the rest of the agencies out there. (Red Cross Ect. most of that money goes to the people running it.)

        They always say that there is tree days worth of food in a store. NOT! these shelves were cleaned of in a couple of hours. So the tree days is propaganda.

        WHEN WILL THEY LEARN???????

        AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
        Sgt.

        • Sarge, is there a gun show in Princeton in the spring?

          • MF
            Yes
            March 29 and 30th. I believe.
            Sgt.

            • Sarge, 10-4.

        • Howdy, Sarge. If they had gone to the store just 2 days early and got everything they really need instead of any junk, they would be OK. I’m supposed to get some bad weather in my area today, but I went and got some more supplies just this past Sunday. That’s called PREPPING. Braveheart will be just fine. The nonpreppers seem like a lost cause. I don’t see them learning, at least not in any large groups. Maybe some individuals here and there, but most of them will keep their normalcy bias.

          • Braveheart,
            Preparing here in NJ expecting ice storm in theveast part of the state , snow to,the west .
            Charging up my jump start battery packs for the satellite radio and for iPad charging .
            The cell tower near me is comnnected to a generator it never goes down , its at the emergency operations center across the street from me. We are expecting 60 mph plus winds and if BI is reading this the predicted barometric pressure at the center of the low is 976 Mb , equal to a weak cat 2 hurricane we can expect these conditions by 8:00 am Thursday unbelievable . I Topped off the jeeps tank and did some last min. run for supplies on the way home , kerosene for the kerosun heater if we loose power. DHS will inform us if we have to report tomorrow could be looking at 5 day weekend . The briefing at noon was rather grim could be power outages all over NJ due to the wet snow , freezing rain and wind . Also coastal flooding to add to the fun here we go again.
            This storm may be epic with power outages stretching from Georgia to Massachusetts!

            BE SAFE

            Semper Fi 8541

            • Night Breaker, I didn’t know you lived in commie NJ. You have my deepest sympathy. We got lucky down in my region and were bypassed. temps down here will actually be warming up starting tomorrow. And Possee’s not too far from you in commie MA. I’m sure both of you will be OK. Be careful and stay warm.

        • Typically grocery chains carry three days of historical sales and fast food outlets carry 24 to 48 hours for historical sales. A run on either will empty the place in minutes to hours.

        • Lol, you are making friends left, right and central.

        • All my friends on this site.
          Don’t respond to this guy
          If you feel he needs a red thumb just give it top him. He isn’t worth your or my time.
          Thanks
          Sgt.

          • Even a red thumb is giving attention.

          • Sgt. You are correct.
            We all know freedom of speech is legal but slander is not.
            He (or it) hides behind the keyboard with nothing to add of value.

          • sarge, this is 1 time I wouldn’t be against the Mafia putting out a contract on someone.

        • Is this a new troll? watch your mouth about Sgt. Dale, sonny boy. He’s one of our brightest lights here.

          • theman is Sybil E. just with a new name….

          • It is E. He changed screen names.

        • Herman, someone will put out a contract on you if you keep up like this.

        • Gun/hunting/fishing show this weekend at CT convention center. Pro 2A rally at Capitol April 5th

      16. IT’S THE KIDS AND OLD FOLKS WHO SUFFER THIS …

        the ones who really suffer from the NSA CIA DHS MK-ULTRA nwo-zog-fedgov-controlled-fakenews and public-educ-sys brainwashed ignorance of the adults are … the kids and old folks .

        it’s past the point of fixing …

        YOU JUST CAN’T FIX …

        “HELL YEAH” !!! I’M AN AMERICAN” !!!

        STUPID .

        ONLY A VERY REAL NATION WIDE FREEMAN PATRIOT REVOLUTION IN THE STREETS WILL CHANGE ANYTHING .

        ZOG AMERIKA IS JUST TO FAR GONE !!!

        SOMEONE WAKE ME UP WHEN THE REVOLUTION STARTS . PLEASE .

        N.O. ;0p

      17. “But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.” Matthew 24:8
        .
        .
        .
        “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.” Matthew 24:21

        It’s just a matter of time. Noah was a prepper, so take care of your material preps, but don’t neglect your spiritual preps!

        “Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.” Ephesians 6:13

        • Good post WG

      18. Yep already hearing that when all the snow & ice melts that the residents downstream of the Mississippi river will see flooding, better get ready now folks while there’s still time !

        • SB- I used to live on the banks of a major river that flooded every year, i had a small boat that i used to get in and out.
          How many of my nieghbors do you suppose didnt have so much as a rowboat ?
          Ya cant fix stupid and ya cant preach to the deaf.

      19. What is also terrifying is planetary devastation. Search it up.

      20. There is no reason for people to be acting like this in Atlanta…..I know because I live in one of its burbs, but a little snow here causes panic because the local governments do not practice clearing the roads and closing schools. The shelves absolutely do not look like that. I did try to get French Bread later last night, but was unable to get any…..but they did have bread. Instead I just decided to bake some myself.

        Power outages happen here no more often than any other state that I have lived in. If you have an old infrastructure it is to be expected. I guess one way to get rid of it and start from scratch is to have one big EMP……of some kind….. The results would be a new up dated electrical infrastructure in about 10 to 20 years.

      21. Maybe people are broke? Gee ya think? in today’s roaring economy, say it isn’t so. A lot of folks are living on Mic Dees dollar menu. It is not looking good folks and the fatties amongst us are living proof of a poor diet brought about by being poor. It is expensive to eat right. My older brother wont buy fresh fruit and veggies b/c he says they are too expensive so for the trade off he comes down with diabetes. He has money for booze and cigs but not decent food. Real smart, but vice and entertainment is taking away from nutrition. The mass die off is at our doorstep, it always has been and nature is about to show the world who is in control. People are asking why we are not maintaining our infrastructure but instead we are building war machines and paying for bread and circuses for the down trodden, and here is the reason. Peak everything. We as a civilization have gone the Easter Island route with nothing left but a slide into the balance with nature. How long of a slide depends on how things shake out, but why fix roads and bridges when you know in 5 to 10 years no one will be driving on them? Why do you think the powers are doing what they are doing? They have top minds studying the situation and it is a glaring fact we have human overshoot something severe and nothing is coming to save us. Maybe Christ, but maybe not yet. Who knows? But what they do know is all the easy stuff is gone, the water situation is getting critical, oil is maxed out and from here will decline, all the easy mining is gone, phosphates are critical and with out this farming is toast, so to keep the lid on things for awhile we hire millions in the government to shuffle papers across each others desks and in my case last year we laid fiber optics to abandoned ghost towns and places without structures into the middle of no where all in an effort to slow the dieing that is here. Even war wont help as there is no resources to build the machine like in ww2. Watch the “prophets of doom” on youtube then get back to me. Not like this documentary is any big ground breaking event to myself, but to the people from last article that want to rebuild the infrastructure with washing machines and computers in this poisoned finite used up world, all I can say is good luck with that.

        • Could not agree more, a couple of years ago, I posted about if we had a true food shortage, that maybe the obeseity problem would disappear, got beat up excessively.
          I often tell people with problems like arthritis and such, to do like the native Indians here did. Fast for 2 days or more, gets the toxins out that make up for a lot of problems. Was thumbed down to the max.

          • .02 and eppe, AMEN to the comments from both of you. When a true food shortage hits, and it WILL, obesity will end up on the “endangered species list” for only a short amount of time, then it starts disappearing. it will be interesting to see how things turn out in any post-SHTF scenario.

          • Most Indians died too young to get arthritis. Hard life and not many made it past forty. Just like in Europe up to the twentieth century.

            • Gee, thank you for these pearls of wisdom (sigh). I think maybe you should hire an editor before you post.

        • “Human Overshoot” should become a more common phrase in prepper groups.

          • Specie overshoot is fact and has been witnessed in mass die offs of animals across all continents and to think humans are somehow exempt from the natural order of things is just fucking stupid. There is no argument if you look at the charts of human specie growth. It flat-lines in around 1 to 2 billion for thousands of years and then skyrockets to 7.5 billion in about the last 150 years during the discovery of steam/coal and then really rockets with oil. Just like a chart on the stock market, what goes up must come down and this chart is totally top heavy and is going to crash stupendously.

            • All I know is, I don’t want to be part of the die-off if I can help it.

        • At what cost Kreuz? Fracking is a ground water destroyer, so we have some oil but no water to drink. The energy returned on energy invested in fracking is pitiful as are the tar sands of Alberta as coal is getting harder to extract, we have to go deeper, remove mountaintops, truck it miles to the burner, etc. Reverting to these techniques proves the desperate situation we are in. Now the ugly part is government going rogue and it will as they all do in a dying scenario, which will take more and more from the populace leaving less and less until a mass critical event blows the lid off and humans attack the howitzers. I am glad I got to enjoy the ride during good times and you can blame us boomers on all the problems we are facing but there was no answer other than to do a lemming cliff jump every time humans reach 2.5 billion world wide. Modern civilization was something to behold, but blame for the collapse is a red herring as there isn’t any. All species would have done what humans have done, it is the nature of things to take advantage of prosperity when things are bountiful as has been in the cheap fossil fuel age. I know you are not going to reply with anything other than some snide insult like hurry up and die, but I would really like to hear an argument why you blame people for being natural and taking advantage of the situation until the crash.

          • He cannot because he is an IDIOT, who has nothing else better to do than trash the rest of us for no real reason.
            Sybil E. why do you not write an article that encompasses the reasons why boomers are the reason why the USA is in the state we are in? We all would love to read what you wrote. I sent one into Mac, waiting for it to be posted. Why can you not sit down and do the same? Chicken, I guess, who knows it could change your profession of being a jerk, to something commendable, like a true writer? If all you can do is bash people here, try your skill in writing a reason why? Or am I being to obtuse?

            • Send it to Mac, we would ALL love to read your musings…

          • Beautifully said, .02- you grasp the situation completely!

            • thank you. sometimes it is hard to get the awake to actually see.

          • If you were really “a man”, you wouldn’t write such stupid remarks… You have literally NO wisdom. The coal industry is not the cure-all, idiot! Read some books!

          • I’ve got seven fracking sites within five miles of me. In my county and adjoining counties over a hundred. On the whole Marcellus shale over a thousand. There is NOT ONE confirmed case of ground-water contamination. The one alleged case I’ve seen reported turned out to be that the guy was pouring waste oil on the ground behind his barn, and had been for years. And a trucker with a valve the wrong way and dumped a couple hundred gallons of (gasp)salt water(gasp) in a pond.

        • Well, you speak the truth. North Dakota and Montana. It’s a huge amount. Hope I become rich someday…but I think God is coming back before that ever happens.

        • theman, we need our water for drinking and other things. Shale oil is not feasible or cost-effective to get to.

      22. When I was a kid growing up in southeast Detroit, my mother did this odd thing called grocery shopping. It might take half a day,but she would make the rounds to different markets around the neighborhood. If Meats or sausages were on sale, she would buy extra “if she could afford it” and put it in the freezer. She stocked up on canned goods when they were on sale and place them in the pantry down in the basement.From the local fruit market, produce was cheap so she bought a lot, and the extra was canned or preserved. Dry goods, like flour and sugar always went on sale after the holidays so she would bulk up on them. You see we ate home cooked meals from scratch everyday, and if there were leftovers well that would be our lunches for school for the the next day or so. We had a vegetable garden in our backyard which really cut down on our grocery bill. As a family we would fish for perch in Lake St. Clair Year round” and fry them up for dinner! Mid September we hunted small game, and come mid November We would all be up at Deer camp. You See not much has changed in the past 40 years when it comes to simple and practical living! If you don’t have some extra food in your pantry or freezer YOUR A DUMB ASS! And if you do,… they label you a prepper! If you don’t have a vegetable or herb garden in your back yard well then to me, YOUR A DUMB ASS! And if you do,… well they label you An Organic Health nut! I don’t feel sorry for anyone whom limits themselves to a 3 day food supply willingly! And I have a name for those kind of people DUMB ASSES!

        • Nice post! Hey, I’m from Pontiac!

        • Unhappiness comes from a variety of things but two on the top I have found is this: 1-Unobtainable/unfulfilled wants.
          2-worrying about what others think of you or anything else for that matter.

        • We lived just like that as first married with small children. Lived in the rual area of small town USA. I Even rationed the food then so nothing was ever wasted.
          Have been prepping for some time now and tell my dear hubby that it is going to be just like “Smyrna” days (the town we lived close to at that time). We NEVER went hungry or had want of anything. The garden was the best grocery bill saver ever. I will be canning carrots this week as my weekly prep. Also making Bio-mass briquettes.
          Kind of fun 🙂 actually.

          • Smyrna, GA?

            • TN

        • Most people here over the age of 40 have had gardens their entire lives. Neighbors walk around and compare gardens/results and offer advice. It’s just normal life, I guess we just don’t know any better.

          • Nectarines are already blooming, I picked around a hundred oranges to make juice with and will be enjoying that for the next few days. Carrots, beets, spinach all doing great and some of the tomatoes are ready to be transplanted. Finally pulling the peppers from last year even though they are still doing good. Italian peppers this year not jalapenos. Calif may have some drawbacks but if you like to garden San Diego is the place to be. 84 today and will be that way for the next few days. Sure need rain though. Maybe Boner can cry us a storm the putz.

        • They aren’t dumb, Detroit… my daughter is going to Med school, works a job, works out at the gym– is very busy and ambitious. However, for some reason, she just will not accept the fact that our world has changed so radically– she is all happy face and positive and if I even mention prepping, she gets real distraught, shouts at me. I think she knows underneath it all, that we are in a bad situation— just doesn’t want to face it. She is an ostrich about this. However, there are people on this website who are also ostriches– just about different issues.

          • My daughter is also the same. Microbiologist married to a Vet who owns his own practice living in California, and does not under any circumstance want to hear anything that could possibly upset her life. New cars, nice houses 2000 dollar dogs, new baby, so just stfu dad, don’t bother me with your doom porn you get off the internet as she rolls her eyes.

      23. That Hershey bar is going to prison as a wrapped package.

        I would make the bus driver attend anger management class, hire him back & double is pay.

      24. Me and a bunch of my northern redneck buddies are heading for Atlanta with out snow blowers. We figure $500 a driveway sounds about right.

      25. How many people get crushed every Christmas season shopping for a hunk of plastic?!
        The peace of mind knowing that there is food put away, water put away, auxiliary heating methods and a way to cook is worth much much more than a bank account full of future toilet paper or tinder. The sheeples’ actions when stuff is minor is enough to tell most awake people to stay away from crowds.
        I’ve been watching this site for a couple of years and finally decided to post something the other day. It doesn’t have to be a major catastrophe for everything to go sideways at least for a couple of weeks. Emergencies happen when they are mostly unexpected.

      26. You preppers have been crying wolf for the past 4 years. Knock it off already. it’s not going to happen. Stop fantasizing about this stupid nonsense and get back to life. You gun nuts need to be rounded up and thrown in jail. Geeze.

        • Nice piece of satire!

        • Hey finx you been missing for weeks, they finally let you out did they?

        • It is happening RIGHT NOW, here is the headlines:

          More arrests in Venezuela protests, Maduro slams “coup-seekers.

          Ukraine on the brink of collapse: Fitch lowers rating to pre-default level.

          EU said to weigh extending Greek loans to 50 years

          Economist warns Ghana’s economy could crash by June

          Worsening economy and crime spur mass exodus from Puerto Rico

          Austria’s banking crisis could be Eurozone’s next potential meltdown

          Iran test-fires new generation of laser-guided, ballistic missiles

          American municipalities suffer plague of bankruptcies, as tax base erodes and debts mount

          Economists uneasy over volatile U.S. unemployment figures: Australia’s unemployment rate rising

          Poverty and ethnic tensions push Algerian city to breaking point: violence leaves 2 dead

          U.S. consumers max out their credit cards in month when personal savings tumble

          Hundreds clash with police, as violence returns to streets of Brazil

          Bosnia: the latest country on the verge of a meltdown- 44% unemployment, no jobs, unable to buy food

          There is no “best case scenario” for Fukushima, just worsening degrees of horror because it’s scientifically impossible to clean up what has already occurred.

          UK Floods – David Cameron Pledges Unlimited Public Funds

          Judge Who Jailed Ukraine Protesters Shot Dead

          Another JPMorgan Banker Dies, 37 Year Old Executive Director Of Program Trading

          USPS, Natl Weather Service, NOAA, Dept Of Ed Buying Arms!

          Mortgage Applications Drop – Hover Near 19 Year Lows

          The 14,000 Oil Spills Nobody Is Talking About

      27. I can only hope and wish something FINALLY happens. Please please please PLEASE let the collapse occur soon. I cannot wait to watch people tear themselves to shreds fighting over the last Ding Dong on the shelf.

        Prime time entertainment at its BEST.

        • The last Ding Dong IS worth fighting for, Killing for a HO HO should be considered, fair fight

          • I’d fight zombies for a twinkie.

      28. With Ramen noodles $1.25 for a 6 pak and 12 for $1.79–there is no reason for even the poorest to not be prepared.
        Water?? Use those juice or 2 liter bottles and fill them.
        I DO NOT feel sorry for anyone any longer…regardless of how poor.
        There are ways to have a few bucks to feed your family.
        Gosh–oats cost what now??

        • Lot of nutrition in that diet.

          • I have 376 ramens; along with 6 years of food storage.
            Nutrition isn’t my point.
            Ramen for 1 week with oats for breakfast and grilled cheese for lunch will not send your body into cardiac arrest.
            Some of you here take things too literally without thinking before you post.

            Update: There are ways to have a few bucks to feed your family during an emergency!!
            Better??

            • hey “man” , some of us got extra stuff like ramen noodles just to give away.
              Can you grasp the concept ?

              • Why don’t you go team up with Michael Sam, more to your liking?

              • eisen, what are you going to do? You don’t have what it takes to challenge her on it.

            • Jay Jay,
              Those ramen noodle packs the cello wrapped not the cups , are good to use as a base you can cook stuff in a sauce and dump over it for a pretty good meal , some beef cut up into cubes with Onions browned in a pan with knorr Swiss gulosh packet makes a pretty tasty meal with minimal prep. Just pour the water off the ramen do not use the ramen flavor packet use just like noodles.
              There are a lot of back packing recipies for ramen noodles and they can be prepared with alternative cooking methods if necessary. You can learn a lot by going to those web sites just type backpacking food recipies into google. You can also use tuna and cheese over ramen !
              Lipton noodle and rice packets with spam is another option . Try spam with dehydrated pineapple over rice !
              The best part this is realitively cheap you can easily store a lot and there are healthy recipies .
              Kindle also has a book series called “A 1001 things you can do with ramen noodles”
              Ramen noodles were orginally developed post WW2 by a Japanese Doctor to fight malnutrition in Japan after the war , he developed a easily cooked noodle that could be prepared with minimal effort that offered a stable storable high calorie staple substitute for rice.
              The rest is history.
              The ramen cup of noodles is good as a stand alone quick meal when combined with starkist tuna a cracker packets as a side dish for a quick lunch.
              A neat item to have is a Sun rocket sun kettle it will heat water to the boiling point works great for the ramen cup of noodles and does not require fire or create smoke.

              IMPROVISE ADAPT OVERCOME

              Semper Fi 8541

              • If you like something crunchy, you can eat the noodles right out of the package. Try it before you scoff at it. It’s almost like eating corn chips. You can sprinkle the seasoning on it too, if you like, but the point is, you don’t HAVE TO cook ramen noodles.

                I only use half of the ramen seasoning, and I save the excess seasoning packets to make soups and sauces out of. Waste not, want not. In my house, If I threw it out, is really IS of NO use.

            • Ramen noodles are great hiking food. Filling, hot, and just mix in an egg or a can of tuna, and some dried vegetables you’ve soaked overnight, and you’ve got a good meal.

              The chicken seasoning packet is the best in taste, to me.

          • Another point–poor folks don’t buy filet mignon and $3 a lb. broccoli or $5 bag of oranges.

            • Here is one that I just got, not sure if it is true or not, but something to think about when shopping…

              Smithfield Foods (Pork) is now owned by a Chinese Co. and meat is processed in China. Just changed their name to WH Holdings Jan 2014. Think about it! Ray

              >> > TILAPIA PACKAGED FISH
              >> > THANKS FOR THIS ARTICLE. AFTER READING IT, I REMEMBERED THAT I
              >> > PURCHASED TILAPIA FROM WALMART LAST WEEK. I READ THE LABEL AND IT WAS
              >> > JUST AS THE ARTICLE STATED “PACKAGED IN JACKSONVILLE, FL BUT
              >> > PROCESSED INCHINA. AFTER READING IT, I THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE. AT MY
              >> > SISTER-IN-LAW’S SUGGESTION, I TOOK OUT OF THE GARBAGE AND TOOK IT BACK
              >> > TO WALMART. IT HAD STARTED TO THAW BEFORE TAKING IT BACK AND INSIDE
              >> > THE SEALED (UNOPENED) WRAPPER, THERE WERE LITTLE BLACK PARTICLES THAT
              >> > APPEARED TO BE FECES. I TOOK THIS E-MAIL WITH ME AND THE CUSTOMER
              >> > SERVICE LADY TOLD ME THAT SHE WAS FAMILIAR WITH IT AND AS MUCH AS HER
              >> > KIDS LIKED TILAPIA, THEY DON’T EAT IT ANYMORE. I LEFT THE ENTIRE
              >> > E-MAIL WITH HER BECAUSE IT DOESN’T JUST ADDRESS TILAPIA.
              >> > DO NOT EAT TILAPIA: GREETINGS AND SALUTATIONS…
              >> > I READ SEVERAL ARTICLES ON GOOGLE ABOUT THIS, AND EVEN ONE THAT WAS
              >> > DEFENDING THE EATING OF TILAPIA SAID TO AVOID THE FISH THAT CAME
              >> > FROM CHINA.
              >> > ALSO, I HAD JUST RETURNED HOME FROM BUYING PUBLIX & ALBERTSON’S 4-DAY
              >> > SPECIAL OF 4 BAGS OF FROZEN TILAPIA FOR THE PRICE OF ONE. SURE ENOUGH,
              >> > ON THE TOP OF THE BAGS, IT READ “FARM RAISED”, AND ON THE BOTTOM IN
              >> > SMALL PRINT IT SAID, “CHINA”. I RECENTLY SAW A FOOD INSPECTOR ON TV…
              >> > HE SAID HE HAD LIVED OVERSEAS AND HE HAD SEEN THE FILTHY CONDITIONS
              >> > THEIR FOODS ARE RAISED AND PROCESSED IN. IT IS ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU
              >> > THROW UP. SOME FOREIGN WORKERS HAVE TO WEAR MASKS AS THEY WORK IN
              >> > THESE PLACES, BECAUSE THE FOOD IS SO ROTTEN AND FILTHY, IT MAKES THEM
              >> > WANT TO THROW UP.
              >> >
              >> > MANY OF THEIR FISH ON FISH FARMS ARE FED RAW SEWAGE DAILY. HE SAID HE
              >> > HAS SEEN SO MUCH FILTH THROUGHOUT THEIR FOOD GROWING AND PROCESSING
              >> > THAT HE WOULD “NEVER” EAT ANY OF IT. THEY RAISE THIS FILTH , PUT SOME
              >> > FOOD COLORING AND SOME FLAVORINGS ON IT, THEN THEY SHIP IT TO
              >> > THE USA FOR YOU TO CONSUME AND FEED TO YOUR FAMILIES. THEY HAVE NO
              >> > FOOD & SAFETY INSPECTORS. THEY SHIP IT TO YOU TO BUY AND POISON YOUR
              >> > FAMILIES AND FRIENDS. IMPORTED FOOD WE EAT AND THE JUNK WE BUY
              >> > Green Giant FROZEN VEGETABLES ARE FROM CHINA , AND SO ARE MOST
              >> > OF EUROPE’S BEST. Arctic Gardens are Okay.
              >> > So is Birdseye.
              >> > Never buy the grocery store garlic unless it is clearly marked from
              >> > USA or Canada,THE OTHER STUFF IS GROWN IN PEOPLE POOP (EVEN WORSE THAN
              >> > CHICKEN POOP). CHINA IS THE LARGEST PRODUCER OF GARLIC IN THE
              >> > WORLD U.S. IS NEXT.
              >> > Buy only local honey,MUCH HONEY IS SHIPPED IN HUGE CONTAINERS
              >> > FROM CHINA AND RE-PACKED HERE.
              >> > Watch out for packages which state “prepared for”, “packed by” or
              >> > “imported by”. I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE LACK OF MANDATORY LABELING,
              >> > ESPECIALLY THE PRODUCE. THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN SHOULD BE CLEARLY SHOWN
              >> > ON THE ITEM IN THE STORE. I GO TO THE LOCAL FARMERS’ MARKETS IN SEASON
              >> > AND KEEP A WARY EYE OPEN THE REST OF THE YEAR.
              >> > PLEASE READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY, AND READ TO THE VERY BOTTOM. IT’S
              >> > IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US.
              >> > How is it possible to ship food from China cheaper than having it
              >> > produced in the U.S. or
              >> > Canada?
              >> > FOR EXAMPLE
              >> > THE “OUR FAMILY”BRAND OF MANDARIN ORANGES SAYS RIGHT ON THE CAN ‘FROM
              >> > CHINA ‘. SO, FOR A FEW MORE CENTS, BUY THE LIBERTY BRAND. GOLD BRAND
              >> > OR THE DOLE IS FROM
              >> > CALIFORNIA BEWARE, COSTCO SELLS CANNED PEACHES AND PEARS IN A PLASTIC
              >> > JAR THAT COME FROM CHINA.
              >> > ALL “HIGH LINER” AND MOST OTHER FROZEN FISH PRODUCTS COME FROM CHINA
              >> > OR INDONESIA. THE PACKAGE MAY SAY “PACIFIC SALMON” ON THE FRONT, BUT
              >> > LOOK FOR THE SMALL PRINT. MOST OF THESE PRODUCTS COME FROM FISH
              >> > FARMS IN THE ORIENT WHERE THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS ON WHAT IS FED TO
              >> > THESE FISH.
              >> > Recently The Montreal Gazette had an article by the Canadian
              >> > Government on how Chinese
              >> > feed the fish: They suspend chicken wire crates over the fish ponds,
              >> > and the fish feed on chicken s–t. If you search the Internet about
              >> > what the Chinese feed their fish, you’ll be alarmed; e.g., growth
              >> > hormones, expired anti-biotics from humans. Never buy any type of fish
              >> > or shellfish that comes from these countries: Vietnam,
              >> > China,Philippines.
              >> > CHECK THIS OUT . I DID. Steinfeld’s Pickles ARE MADE IN INDIA – JUST
              >> > AS BAD!
              >> > ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS IN canned mushrooms. No-Name brand came from
              >> > Indonesia.
              >> > ALSO CHECK THOSE LITTLE fruit cups.They used to be made in Canada in
              >> > the Niagara region until
              >> > about 2 years ago. They are now packaged in China!
              >> > While the Chinese export inferior and even toxic products, dangerous
              >> > toys, and goods to be
              >> > sold in North American markets, the media wrings its hands! Yet, 70%
              >> > of North Americans
              >> > believe that the trading privileges afforded to the Chinese should be
              >> > suspended!
              >> > WELL, DUH! WHY DO YOU NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO SUSPEND TRADING
              >> > PRIVILEGES?
              >> > SIMPLY DO IT YOURSELF, CANADA AND THE U.S.
              >> > Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says
              >> > ‘Made in China’ or ‘PRC’ (and
              >> > that now includes Hong Kong ), simply choose another product, or none
              >> > at all. You will be amazed at how dependent you are on
              >> > Chinese products, and you will be equally amazed at what you can do
              >> > without.
              >> > THINK ABOUT THIS:
              >> > If 200 million North Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese
              >> > goods, that’s a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our
              >> > favor… fast! The downside? Some Canadian/American businesses will
              >> > feel a temporary
              >> > pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory
              >> > Just one month of trading losses will hit the Chinese for 8% of their
              >> > North American exports.
              >> > Then they will at least have to ask themselves if the benefits of
              >> > their arrogance and lawlessness are worth it.
              >> > START NOW AND DON’T STOP.

              I would say we need to keep out products from overseas, and keep what we grow here for ourselves, but I guess that is just wishful thinking….

              • Sorry for all the caps, that is how I got it….

                • eppe,

                  Good advice to check the labels on the food you purchase.

                  Smithfield sells its products under a variety of brand names, including as Smithfield, Eckrich and Farmland, Cook’s Ham, Gwaltney, John Morrell, Krakus Ham, Patrick Cudahy, Smithfield, Armour, Healthy Ones, and Stefano’s.

                  These “popular packaged meats brands available at countless grocery stores and restaurants across the country.”

                  www dot smithfieldfoods dot com

              • eppe- just wait until obama signs the TPP treaty into excistance , it will get much worse

                • Amen brother, I wrote a 2 page document on what would fix this USA, sent it to Mac, do not know if he would post it, just waiting….

                • hammerhead, I don’t know about that, I bet the food from Chile or New Zealand is cleaner than from asia. I mean wtf, we have free trade with china, why not other countries? we cant be an island anymore as the world is sliding to the top .001% takes all and the rest gets 3rd world status. But even that is not going to stop the resource depletion dooming the world. IF the Pacific is dying from Fukushim as a lot of websites are claiming, humans are going to go out with a bang. not a whimper. I really see all these agreements and paper treaties as a smoke screen to get people to think the governments of the world are at least doing something.

                  • 02 – do some homework on the TPP.
                    Maybe at The new american site.
                    soveriegnty is at stake and these big corps will do as they please on US soil.
                    look it up , no small deal,

              • Keep on preaching on it brother…been saying it myself for decades and it seems to be getting worse…folks buy the cheapest and the cheapest is that for a reason…no good can come from eating food from a place where people starve to death for lack of it…where soap is unheard of and the concept of cleanliness is foreign…some USA stuff is bad enough but china and places like it are worse…you can fill your shelves and fill your belly with crap but in the end its still crap even if you saved a nickel and remember you are what you eat…good post eppe!

                • Thank you REB, I just asked Sybil E. to write an artice on why us boomers are the downfall of the USA. I would relish to read what hw writes…

                  • Eppe, anything the abomination writes, I’ll print a copy and see if it’s usable for TP.

                • Big thumb up to you Reb. I see the situation of the young and think about having a student loan and trying to exist on 9 bux an hour as the “gov sanctioned higher degree” is not worth the wood to frame it and now grasp the reasoning for importing animal feces and feeding it to the people. There are some Asian countries drinking processed sewage. That is how desperate things have become.

              • @ Eppe You are correct that Smithfield was just sold and is now under the name of WH Holdings.

              • Smithfield Foods (Pork) is now owned by a Chinese Co
                Was released 6 months ago.
                True?
                On Wednesday, May 29, Virginia-based Smithfield Foods (SFD, Fortune 500), the world’s largest processor of pork, announced that it was being bought by Chinese meat producer Shuanghui International for nearly $5 billion. It is the biggest announced acquisition of a U.S. company by a Chinese buyer.

                • Made the mistake of buying some of their bacon. I won’t do that again! It stuck to the nonstick skillet and went to pieces when I tried to turn it over. What are they doing to it? After that I went back to Oscar Meyer and Plumrose.

              • Shoot folks, I haven’t had baked fish since 3 months after BP gulf mess.
                Do I miss it?? Well, yeah.

                • I bought some Atlantic Salmon as I used to catch Pacific Chinook (God I miss it) but since FukU I wont eat anything out of the Pacific until I KNOW FOR A FACT it is not radiated and the way the gov is dodging questions and refusing to do the testing I am thinking it is deadly.

                  • I haven’t eaten fish in 20 years. Simple reason is that we are strip-mining the oceans for protein and I refuse to be a party to that.

              • You will find this interesting, The Tilapia craze started a few years ago, I grew up in a place where fishing was a mainstay. There it was common knowledge that Tilapia was a GARBAGE fish! no one ever ate it, we used it for bait and nothing else. I was amazed when I saw it in grocery stores thinking “what the heck” no one eats that. Well the uninformed seem to like it…

                • The tilapia is farm-raised now. There is a huge farm in the next county from me. They donated all the fish for a recent church event, and the tilapia was very good. It was the first time I’d ever had it. I usually eat flounder, trout, or spots.

                  There are a number of fish farms in eastern NC, and they raise tilapia and catfish.

                  I wouldn’t eat anything from China.

                  We used to have a Chinese restaurant here that was terrible. A plumber we know went there to do a repair. He needed to open a drain clean-out in the floor of the kitchen. He was going back to his truck to get a tool, but the cook, who was cutting up chickens, said he would open the clean-out. He used his meat cleaver to get the clean-out open, and then went right back to cutting up chickens with the nasty meat cleaver. I don’t think they believe in germs or dirt either.

                  • “Farm raised” fish = Multiple generations raised in the same water full of the waste of all of the previous fish = (BLEH!)

              • I worked at the Steinfeld’s Pickle plant in North Portland OR in the late 1980’s and early 90’s. Unless they’ve sold out since then, their cukes come from Fazio Farms on Sauvie’s Island and are processed and packaged in North Portland. I actually know one of the Fazio Family and have been in their fields many times.

                I guess I’m going to have to make a phone call and find out if they’ve sold out or not.

            • Poor folks do buy a $5 bag of oranges if that meets their needs. And if it’s 5 or more pounds it’s a bargain than buying them singly. Not everyone who is poor is stupid or bad at handling money.

              • Heck, I rarely get a bag of oranges!!

                Just saying…a treat here.

                • When I was growing up, the only time I got an orange was at Christmas.

            • Eisen, back off JayJay, you dirty mofo.

            • Jay jay

              They use their food stamps to buy lobster, steak and cigs at Wally World! Been there seen it.

          • Yeah, well, in a food shortage or when I’m hungry, I’ll eat them anyway. Everything a person eats doesn’t need to be chalked full of maximum vitamins.

            Sometimes just being able to eat SOMETHING is all it takes.

            How did mankind even exist before everything became “vitamin enriched”?

        • Every time I empty a milk jug, I wash it and rinse it out and fill it half way and freeze it. I have a freezer full of half full milk jugs with ice. Always have your vehicle on full. Both of my tractors are diesel and the tank is 400 gallon reservoir full. Save jars whenever I use one up. Stock up seeds from the seed store that didn’t sell the previous year..cheaper and most will germinate. Use the storm cellar as a fruit and vegetable cellar but leave room to hide during a tornado. Just a few easy things to do.

      29. I do believe there are many prepared who have chosen not to advertise it – for obvious reasons! Early on, it was the thing to talk about and encourage others to do – but when the harassment, disbelief and ridicule came, the decision was made to shut up and “let the chips fall where they may.”

        • yep.

          “Nobody knows, nobody sees…nobody knows but me”.

          —Johnny Cash, c. 1950’s

          • No older Johnny Cash fans, huh? The song was “Long black veil”.

      30. Just gotta watch that sodium count in the Ramen, there loaded with it, other than that they will do just fine, have some put away here myself.

        • Which kind of ramen? Ichiraku?

          • I like the Sapporo brand Ramen noodles. They are pricier. But the noodle is higher quality and the seasoning is much better than the salty packs in the cheaper brands.

            • KOYO Ramen is OG and not so bad as the other stuff.

        • Msg laced gmo pasta. Yum yum good! *sigh*

          • for some the alternative would be dumpster diving or starvation .
            Any level of preparedness is a good thing.

            • Amen, hammerhead.
              I am beginning to believe many here have never had to choose gas for work or lunch.
              Sad; we all would benefit from being there, if only once.

              • I have had to chose between a meal and bus fair a couple of times. In the big city bus fare wins out. In a small town, eat lunch and take shank’s pony everywhere you need to go!

              • JayJay, I went thru some times like that for part of the 80s, even working 2 jobs for a 3-year period. one of those paychecks had to go to pay off a POS I lost to in a court case ALONG WITH HIS LEGAL FEES. That’s one story I’d rather not even touch on. I know exactly where you’re coming from. Been there, done that, wish I could forget about it, but that ain’t happening. I do know what it is to scrape and struggle for a living.

              • “That which doesn’t kill us, makes us stronger”.

                If I can’t survive ramen noodles, I’m in real trouble.

        • Don’t use that “flavor packet” and there’s no sodium. Or MSG, either. Boil ’em, drain ’em, add butter and season to taste.

          • **Boil ‘em, drain ‘em, add butter and season to taste.**

            Or a can of mixed peas and corn, or mushrooms..endless possibilities.
            Now, Ramen are an emergency food, but so are spaghetti pastas of which I have many 5 gallon buckets.
            But, in a situation of conserving water and fuel, that pasta takes about 12-15 minutes, the ramen only 3; I’m going with the ramen.
            And save that water, boil another food in a ziplok bag(you did store lots of ziplok bags, didn’t you?).
            And if you boiled that water and it is clean?/ Put it in that Aladdin thermos(you do have an Aladdin thermos, don’t you?) 🙂

        • @Southern Border

          The sodium comes in the flavor packets. When we fix ramen, we use just half the flavor packet. We save the rest and use it on regular flat noodles later on.

      31. This is what we all have been talking about for many years. This is why we get the #10 cans and the water barrels and the lead, etc. From what I’ve been hearing about the coming demise of the paper dollar, cash will still be king for a while. Trickle your cash out of the bank at the ATM, 200 bucks every other day.

      32. I had Depression-era parents who always had extras on hand, and I do the same.

        These last-minute lollies will never learn. Instead of having food and water on hand for an emergency when they could have bought their favorite brands on sale and at their leisure, they choose to wait until 30 seconds before the storm hits to go bravely or stupidly forth into a crowd of other doodleheads and pay inflated prices and get what’s left on the shelf. Amazing how they didn’t have money (or brains) to stock up previously but now all of a sudden find the time and money to do so (I left out “brains”). Ga-a-a-ck! Seriously, I don’t get it, if it’s the iThingy mentality or what; they choose to live in cyberspace until real-world events hit them smack in the face.

        • Good post Annemarie…..my parents were also from the depression era. To many people today just don’t get it. We do our shopping once a week and always manage to buy “extras” to store away. I think you’re right on the iThingy mentality….just to wrapped up in technology.

          In the mean time…heating oil…full tank, propane 3/4, firewood in the garage and plenty of food in the house….and best of all a scheduled day off from work tomorrow.

      33. I lived in Atlanta for 10 years and have many friends there who I keep up with on Facebook. Not one of them mentioned fighting, if it really happened, I suspect it took place in the hood, not the burbs.

        • I think that goes without saying..
          Just saying..

        • I think they are just wanting to trash us here in ATL, for whatever reason, but like I said earlier, I did not see anything like they are reporting. You should have been here in ’73, this ice storm is nothing like that one. I watched a transformer blow in front of my house, purple balls flying everywhere. Lost power for five days. Thank goodness we had a fireplace insert and tons of wood, cooked and kept warm in one room of the house. Yes, my parents were preppers before the name was coined. But we kids did have a ball in the ice….

          • Stories about orderly lines in stores do not draw viewers??

            • Looks like “theman” Sybil E. is after you now too…

            • J J
              You are right. They won’t show some person handing out of their cart a loaf of bread.
              They will just show the Turds fighting.
              I will pray for the folks in Ga. that prepped. But I will let God take care of the rest.
              Sgt.

              • Each day whether it be at dinner or at night, I pray that if there is anyone needing a warm meal, a warm bath, a warm place to lay their heads, send them.

                • JJ, GOD will smile upon you for the help that you do…

      34. I tell people these things and all I get is that I should wear a tin foil hat.

        • I don’t tell anyone within 25 miles of me these things.
          Stopped that years ago.

        • Just put a “Christian Dior” label in it, and watch them flock to find out where you got it. I’ve seen worse in “haute couture” shows.

      35. maybe the Mass Panic should be in DC…keep waking up the masses and the elite will shit their pants..

        maybe that’s exactly what is going on..all the scare tactics, False Flags and trying like hell to remove us of our rights..smells like DC fear to me.

        • Of course they are afraid, DC knows the severity of the shit that is about to hit the king Kong sized propeller. They know history and like the idea of having their heads attached and necks unstretched. If you were sitting in power and knew that you have been lying to the people to protect yourself and to a lesser degree the people, wouldn’t you be nervous? 300 million pissed off armed people looking for a reason they are starving… might be an uncomfortable position to be in.. ya think?

          • as it should be.

      36. looks like the UK might be next up at bat

        Bank Of England Stress Testing Banks For Property Crash – Risk Of Bail-Ins

        http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-02-12/bank-england-stress-testing-banks-property-crash-risk-bail-ins

        “Preparations have been or are being put in place by the international monetary and financial authorities, including the Bank of England for bail-ins. The majority of the public are unaware of these developments, the risks and the ramifications”

        • The UK is dealing with once in 200 years style flooding right now.

          As a resident, I’m on the prepper front line.

          BUT them old style soccer hooligans etc are still around iykwim.

        • Uk has bigger problems.
          thedailysheeple.com/it-has-begun-wise-up-and-stock-up-as-food-shortages-and-price-hikes-are-coming-before-the-years-end_022014

      37. This article only reinforces what we here know. No real new info.
        I don’t like the hard shell that I have developed, but I just can’t afford to waste energy on emotions like feeling sorry for fully functional humans who won’t take care of themselves and their own.
        I have to fight the good fight everyday, and so should they.
        I have to wonder if they just don’t love their families, or at least as much as they love themselves.
        Do they even know/care how weak, pathetic and selfish they look?
        Sad…
        That is all

        • If they loved themselves, they’d be taking steps to take care of themselves…they don’t love anything but having their iface stuck in an ipad.

      38. Come on folks cut them some slack. Don’t you know that’s how they prepare in most of the country.

        • cut em’ some slack, rather cut the rope.

          • You will never be able to cut that much rope. They are 96% of the population. The best advice is to stay out of their way..

      39. People should be required to have 2 weeks worth of supplies on hand at all times. They’ll thank somebody after the first disaster and there won’t be any reason to panic or riot. Oops! Sorry logic doesn’t work in most locations.

        • we must build a prepper police force to make sure everyone is prepared and have weekly inspections of every 115 million house holds every week to make sure all inventories are rotated and secure in turn bringing the unemployment rate to 0. Jim! you are a genius.

        • jim , REQUIRED ?
          By whom ? The federal government ? laughable, sorry .
          Ya , I want the FDA or some other 3letter gestapo to have the right to come into my home and “inspect” my level of preparedness . no thanks .
          more laws and regulation + more control .
          I will just do what i do and help those i can , when i can and f**k the fed gov .
          I’m sure you ment well , sorry to rant.

          • f**k the fed gov

            OMG we have dissident! I think we have to bring H Head in for retraining at the FEMA camp. Sieg Heil!

            • ya 02 , I need a good re-education program .
              straighten my attitude out and get with the program.

              • Yes hammerhead, you will obey. The government loves you. They are here to help. Trust the government. Be a hero and follow orders. Ask what you can do for the good of the collective. It takes a village to raise a child so do your part. After taxes take 50% of you productive give another 45% for the cause. Damn H Head be a good lille serf and stfu .. or else..

              • They already tried to straighten out my attitude, but they just bent theirs instead.

          • Hammerhead; Yeah wishful thinking on my part. I guess I learned the lesson and don’t understand why people keep sticking their heads in the sand and keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Common sense apparently is uncommon.

        • If you don’t have the mindset to be prepared, you won’t heed the REQUIREMENTS. If you are not prudent and prepared, natural selection will take care of you.

      40. secret 2nd Constitution Exists , it replaced the fist and is now federal law in NWO ZOG AmeriKa .

        zog amerika is a illegal unconstitutional corporation .

        the money dollar bills in your wallets are unconstitutional and illegal

        prepare for a total collapse .

        makes you a lil’ angry does it to hear the truth …

        AMERICA IS A LIE !!!

        ;0p

      41. it’s snowing like a mofo here in nc…..got 3inches on the deck as I write this…the talking head on tv says that ice is coming tonight…1/4 to 1/2 inch at least….the power will go out at some point overnight…doesn’t matter…………..I won’t freeze and I won’t starve BECAUSE I’M A PREPPER DAMNIT……this is the kind of shtf event that we prepare for….my neighbors are screwed, but not me…time to go clean the guns and watch it snow

        • Damn you Al Gore!

        • WOW ! TINFOIL ! GET A GRIP !
          LOL , can i send the 48in in my yard ?
          4 foot snow banks are the norm and 6 ft so far this year.
          Yer gettin worked up about what ?
          HAHHAHHA

          • Maybe you could ship it to commifornia so we can have some avocados this year…

          • no hammerhead, you may not send any more snow…lol…maybe I should send you a couple of snowplows…4 feet, damn!

      42. If I miss the window for one last grocery run. I want to grab a bunch of grocery carts.

        You can grow Potatoes in them. And have the ability to relocate them in case of a hail storm or move to shade if too much Sun.

        You can turn them over and use them to protect your plants from animals.

        The wheels can be removed and used for self made carts. Etc.

        • SD,
          You can also turn them over and use them as a grill!

          Semper Fi 8541

          • NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! Most carts us Chrome to make them Shiny IT CAN KILL YOU! In a fire it will get in your food and is POISON!!!!! Oven racks are different you can use them.

            • Shopping carts are just plain steel wire. Chrome is too expensive to waste on a shopping cart. As much as the carts are banged up, all the chrome would be knocked off in a few days anyway.

              • WRONG! Ordinary Iron, Steel rusts! Except at a weld you never see rusty shopping carts. They are Chrome plated it does not peel off. You are an idiot,who talks of thing he knows not.

      43. The sheeple panicking is akin to a cattle stampede…. no one leader, no idea where they are going or what they are going to do when they get there….. They will become uncivilized on day one of the SHTF… Eventually, Darwin’s Law will take hold and whittle them down….
        The same thing happened on Day One when Hurricane Sandy hit here in the NE….

        I look at these storms and the fact I personally lost power during Hurricane Sandy for 12 days, as a welcomed forced training exercises. A smart person will use his equipment/skills and then take a assessment what worked, what didn’t and what needs to be improved upon for the real thing when the power returns or the storm susides and things return to normal.

        If you are prepared set up your lawn chair, get some popcorn and watch the ensuing carnage unfold…..

      44. As a young married couple we lived and raised our children in upstate NY and the word preppers was not a word yet, but just for the reason we lived where we did anyone who did not keep the pantry &canning shelves full were asking for trouble at least in the winter months. It brecame so much of a habit during the 20 years I lived there not doing so isn’t an option. These days I just beefed it up. We are slowing losing our snow and ice warm temps are suppose to be here over the weekend. Yes, I have a neighbor who thinks that I hoard food, just her opinion, at least I didn’t have to go to her house to “borrow” something for dinner during our last snow storm.

        • WTF does your neighbor “know” shit? Now guess who you are going to have to shoot when things really go to hell.

      45. Just in case anyone was wondering.. absolutely none of this crap is my fault.

        • How do we know?

          • you got a point there..

      46. Hey theman. you are the moron, snow tires wont and cant do shit in pure ice. they are for snow. get a clue dumbass. the chains are for ice.

      47. Request from DS aged 9

        you all need to listen to “God m& Guns”
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDjQkGql9r8

        It’s been censored here here in the UK on youtube and his Roam blood is in direct disagreement with his 24 year old half-bro that this “OK”.

      48. Here’s a line from a movie that I thought was right on the mark, “Pity the nation that needs heroes”. From the Reign of Fire. I would add another, “Pity a nation that sends it’s daughters to war”. What sort of civilization does that?

        • The Vikings for one.

          • And who will breed to keep our people from going extinct? We’re down to no more than 8% of the world population. And shrinking fast.

        • Reign of Fire, Christian Bale and Gerard Butler…Great movie.

      49. And this is why we urge others to prepare:
        *Ca. drought continues with a vengeance
        *Fla. freeze killed fruit, squash, cucumber and herb crops
        *Cold spells in many states killed cattle
        *Indonesia fish industry is suffering(not to mention sea deaths from Fukushima)
        *Texas wheat growth stunted by cold
        *Australia drought continues
        *China rice crop affected by low temps.
        (what about Arkansas rice, which is what I bought)

        Urge those you know are unprepared to wise up and stock up, time may be very much shorter than they think.

      50. What sort of civilization does that?

        The kind that has been convinced by the tribe that women are equal to men.

        • oooh…be careful where ye tread…

      51. President Obama Signs “Minimum Wage Hike” Executive Order

        “President Obama gives minimum-wage-earning Federal employees (and physically and mentally handicapped workers) a 39% pay hike to $10.10.”
        -Zerohedge

        Income comparisons from 2012
        Avg. US per capita income
        $42,693

        Avg. Federal Employee Salary
        $78,467

        Spot The Average Federal Employee Salary
        -Zerohedge

      52. The morons here in New York are causing gas lines because of a few inch snowfall ……how easy it is to get the idiots to panic !!!
        Next we will have gas lines at the next thunderstorm warning !

        • That’s because the Weather Channel named the storm. It’s called Pax.

      53. BI. 6.9 – 7.3 in china. Haven’t seen it mentioned yet

        • @ Anonymous. I mentioned in the last article. This is the India/China earthquake that was coming from the Northern Australian plate that was showing so much tension and back fed energy from all these percursors quakes. This is not the mega quake that is still coming that could be the super mega quake. The one I am worried about will be a little further south and southeast.

      54. “If a transient winter storm for which we had ample advance warning leads to panic buying, empty store shelves and brawls, then what do you think is going to happen in a worst case scenario?”

        Be quit…odorless…and unseen…for as long as it takes!!!

        • quiet…I need a new eyboard…. 🙂

      55. Another reason why you need another way to heat your home. If you can’t heat with wood you should get a kerosene heater. Where I live you can buy kerosene at the pump at a farm supply store for $5 a gallon.

        • I have it priced at $5.75/gal Last year it was $3.75/gal

          At the rate the dollar is shrinking, I will need a magnifying glass just to find a $1 bill.

      56. Late last evening I was advising east coast friends online how to deal with power outages in cold weather- how to keep small pets warm, etc. I got ready for bed and boom! our power went out. We’re on the left coast so it’s an unrelated weather system to Super storm PAX. We rustled up the candles and wound up the old alarm clock. When we were in our beds the lights came back on. A nice little trial run, but it made me realize that I need to find things I would have needed had the power stayed out until morning- camp stove ring, kettle, info on how much salt per pound of meat to cure before smoking and other articles and recipes from SHTF and other sources. Before going back to bed we debriefed and wrote things down that we’d learned over the hour. One surprising thing is that I keep two flashlights handy, but forgot about them both until our ‘event’ was almost over. Small emergencies like this help people build awareness of the vulnerabilities of their lives and see what they need to do better next time.

        • LED flashlights, lanterns half full, matches, headlamps, tap lights..all in a box in the closet with tap light on the wall.
          LED flashlights by all beds.
          Led flashlights in all rooms.

      57. I grew up when we always stocked up for winter and lean times. The depression didn’t end in our region of Arkansas until 1964. We didn’t have electricity until 1962! Any way there was employment during the spring planting season. and you could chop cotton some during the summer and pick it in the fall. In winter almost all construction and logging ect. would shut down until spring. When I first married I ran heavy equipt mostly road const. That shut down in November and usually dint resume until june. So it was essential to stock up on firewood animal feed and groceries before winter. After about3 decades I grew tired of the feast & famine of equipt operating and went to driving truck. Truck driving didn’t pay as much but it was steady work. And you where in a heated cab in winter and air cond in summer. When Bush Jr got elected suddenly there wasn’t any real money to be made driving truck. The Know How of So called prepping was and still is a great help. We simply don’t have friends and don’t tell others about what we have or do. false Friends are like ticks im overstocked you can have them.

      58. The U.S. government pays out more damages for this vaccine than any other.

        Flu Shot Is Most Dangerous Vaccine in US: Report

        “According to the Department of Justice, the Department of Health and Human Services paid compensation to settle about half of 139 claims by individuals allegedly injured or killed by vaccines between August 16 and November 15 last year.

        The greatest percentage of damages compensated were for the influenza vaccine, and most of those were for Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS).”
        -Newsmaxhealth dot com

      59. @mac salvo ;0P

        hey man

        you are really gonna wanna listen to this one

        without any distractions

        its so full of real facts my brain cramped up

        worth your time till the very end , its worth doing the legal research too

        and its ALL true .

        ENGLISH ‘COMMON LAW’ TRUMPS THE NWO ZOG AND THE FALSE 2ND CONSTITUTION 0F 1870 AS ZOG AMERIKA IS A COMMONWEALTH / SUB-CORPORATION OF FRIGGEN BLOODY ENGLAND GLOBAL-CORPORATION THE VIRGINIA CORP .

        YOU ARE ALL CORPORATIONS AS INDIVIDUALS YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS MAKE YOUR EACH A SEPARATE CORPORATION IN THE EYES OF THE CORRUPT ZOG AMERIKA CORP LAW AND COURTS … SO YOU GO TO BEAT THAT BULLSHEEIT IN COURT AS A ‘COMMON MAN’ OR WOMAN UNDER THE ‘COMMON LAWS OF ENGLAND’ AND NEVER PLEAD INNOCENCE OR GUILT IN A COURT OF LAW – EVER .

        YOU ARE A HUMAN BEING IN GAWD AL’MIGHTY EYES SALT OF THE EARTH !!! AN SHALL BE JUDGE AS SO AS A …

        ‘FREEMAN’ OR ‘FREEWOMAN’ HUMAN BEING OF THE NATURAL EARTH SUBJECT TO BE RULED AND PUNISHED OF YOUR CRIMES UNDER THE ENGLISH CROWNS ‘COMMON LAW’ COURT JUSTICE . AS A FREE HUMAN BEING … FREEMAN .

        NOT AS A DAMN INDENTURED INDIVIDUAL DEBT SLAVE SERF CORPORATION TO THE ZOG FEDGOV STATE CORPORATION .

        JUST LISTEN THEN DO THE RESEARCH … ITS VERY WORTH IT .

        THE ‘Magna Carta’ TRUMPS ALL !!!

        N.O. ;0p

      60. According to WRAL Tech Wire, the company which has underperformed Wall Street’s expectations for many quarters, has begun “cost-rationalizing” terminations in India – the country that hosts some 100,000 of IBM’s employees and where IBM reportedly employs the greatest number of workers. The unit targeted is the Systems Technology Group which is the troubled hardware group selling its low-end x86 server business to Lenovo for $2.3 billion and where Big Blue’s executives have launched “Resource Action”, also known as “re-balancing” but best known as mass, across the board terminations where by some estimates up to 13,000 of IBM’s 434,000 workers are set to be let go.

        Things are so bad third world is not safe.

      61. Wanted…. hooker to trade services for firewood, canned beans and some glow sticks.

        I’m going to love this SHTF….it’s like pussy Christmas.
        So many in need. ha

        • Man Cave, What color glow sticks?

      62. My husband is finally glad that I am a prepper. Last Tues, Feb 4 he was in his cabinet shop and had a serious accident resulting in the lose of his ring finger and part of his middle finger. He was rushed to UNC Medical Trauma center in Raleigh, NC by ambulance.
        He is back home and waiting for all the snow to clear so we can start therapy. Here in the South we got 9/10 inches.
        He accidently got his bandages wet which resulted in me having to rebandage it to prevent a fungus.
        Happily, I had all the materials I needed. I asked him if he was glad now that I was a prepper. He said “yes”.
        Since I was out of town and not able to shop and coming home just before the snow, I have not been able to shop for groceries. However, once again, we have all we need. He cannot be left alone as long as he is on narcotics, so someone will have to shop for me.
        I am keeping a list to replace the supplies I am using.
        Keep us in your prayers. He will have enough fingers to continue his cabinet making, but I am sure will meet some challenges.

        4 year prepper

        • Will do on the prayers. I hope he does well. My husband is loving the preps as well. I’m out of state and he can focus on stuff other than shopping in all the snow.

        • 4 year prepper, we will keep you and your husband in our prayers. I think both of you will be OK.

        • 4 year prepper, don’t underestimate the human determination and resilience.
          My brother lost fingers in a machine at Oscar Meyer and he bowls better than most!!!

      63. Looks like some dessert is left in the first picture.

      64. “The looting and violence will begin. First they’ll target businesses likely grocery stores, warehouses, and restaurants. When those are picked clean, they’ll go door-to-door.

        Will you be ready? Because they won’t be knocking.”

        No they won’t be knocking. If y’all ID them as hostile – take ’em out. A good shooter / sniper has kept many at bay.

        When they see their dead buddies, word will pass around to find an easier target!

        Y’all Beware! DOPE n Good Luck.

        • Ya’ll beware–have you ever considered the guards necessary in all the warehouses in our nation?
          Their gonna need Caterpillars to block those doors!!! 🙂

          • They’re

      65. Moving on to another site,
        this is just too juvenile.
        After all this time, sorry Mac,
        you deserve better.
        Later…

      66. Didn’t we already have this discussion in the last few days? Maybe it’s me, but this article sounds awfully familiar…

      67. As for people preparing…it really boils down to two types: Those who will and those who won’t.

        When TSHTF those who WILL:
        -will be able to think clearer amid destruction and chaos
        -will be able to not only provide for themselves, but maybe even their children (or some neighbors) who were too foolish (or lazy) to be bothered.
        -will stand a better chance at educating the next generation as to “the whole house of cards coming down.”
        -will be able to teach by example to others what they clearly should have done…but didn’t.
        -will be able to goto sleep each night giving thanks and praise that their eyes were opened and maybe their lives spared.
        -will be afforded a chance to see the multiple wrongs done in the world corrected or addressed.
        -will be one step ahead of the panicked crowds, zombies, and wolves.
        -will be able to tell exactly whom their ‘true friends’ are.
        -will be able to eat, drink and maybe even laugh or share a story or two.
        -will be able to defend and protect their families to the best of their ability.
        -will be able help others in need who prepared, but might still need help. This is what raises us above the animals.
        -will be appreciative for all they have, even if for a short while.

        Those who WON’T

        -really? They simply won’t exist…not for long anyways.

      68. I’m so sexy my head is pointy.

      69. I noticed our favorite troublemaker’s comments have been removed again. Sounds like Mac is sending him a message. Mac, kudos to you. we support you all the way.

        • Hi Braveheart — thanks for your comment. I know you and several others have taken the brunt of the insults and beratement over the last days and weeks… I posted a response on this here: https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/non-participation-and-decentralization-as-primers-for-revolution_02122014#comment-2936591 .

          We’re working on it and doing our best filtering through the moderation queues. Things will inevitably make it through, but we’ll do what we can. I appreciate the feedback from you and others.

          Thanks.

          Mac

          • There’s sex jokes, and ease the mind of troubles now and then, but vulgar is just that–vulgar.

            vulgar: Crudely indecent, deficient in taste, delicacy, or refinement marked by a lack of good breeding.

            Let’s call a spade a spade.

            • I’m a big girl, an old country girl, and have heard it all.
              But a young girl searching this site for information would be put off by some vulgar remarks posted here.

              • JJ I agree, on the other hand ,a gal that cannot survive the stuff here had better lay down and die if TSHTF.

      70. Use your imagination on this. Just think if Biden (the V.P.) got up on national television and said “it’s all a lie. Buy food within 2 days or starve to death”. By the way the EBT system will stop” Don’t worry about candles as the whole country would be up in flames. Then the next day he could laugh saying “April Fools”

      71. We got 9 inches snow so far, no ice. Snowed all night and itts still snowing hard. Aint but a few who might make it to a job in this area.
        The idiots who make a mad dash to the stores deserve what they get, long lines or fights or empty shelves. Guarantee theyve been down the dumbass road a few times before. They never learn.
        Yesterday one of my boys said whats with the bread, milk and eggs list all the time. He said yesterday everyone talked about making a run to the store for bread, milk and eggs. He said if they didnt have those things the day before why now? He said watching the mindset of a herd of idiots is weird and they dont even know how stupid they are. I was damn proud of my boy for saying he told em all to have staples like canned foods set aside and to keep things handy so they dont have to do w/out or make a last minute trip to a store. He said his friends didnt get it, they wanted the prescription of bread, milk and eggs. And they wanted junk food. We figured theyll be among the first to go.

        Stay safe .

      72. I live in the Atlanta metro area and this “news” about people panicking and fighting over bread is totally exaggerated. It happened in only a couple of places, not everywhere. In my area, there was still plenty of bread and milk available, and in places where the shelves went empty, the bread was re stocked the next day.

        Many people prepared in advance of this recent storm and didn’t have to go to the supermarket at the last minute.

      73. any boy scout knows to be prepared

      74. 585,000 Without Power As “Catastrophic” Winter Storm Pax Pounds Northeast

        Article includes charts and video links.

        -Up to 18 MORE inches of snow is forecast for the Northeast.

        -585,000 households are without power in 7 states this morning.

        -Forecasters expect more power outages.

        Zerohedge

      75. When SHTF, I TRULY HOPE not a Single…….Human……Survives… If even 12 people, with a proportionate female ratio makes it. All this pain, all the misery….all the horror recorded throughout history up until the present day will be repeated.

        I have had enough of hearing the myth: “People are “Good” , “There are plenty of decent, honorable “well-meaning” people in the world, only a tiny part is evil or tainted”.

        The fact is that Homo Sapiens is a tainted species 100%. Hard-wired for failure.. Traits such as “Decency” or “Altruism” or Conditional at best. (Which means that these traits are not True Decency or Altruism)

        I learned long ago that People can only be counted on for 1 thing. and That is to FAIL utterly and make an absolute chaotic mess of EVERYTHING. Just think about HOW and WHY the spawns of the “sons of darkness” are ABLE to seize power positions EVERY TIME in EVERY Civilization? People do everything but make Lucifer a “sit-down dinner”.

        99.999999999xinfinity of the demons work is already ENABLED by Every Individual on Earth in every possible way, Regardless of who claims to “Be of God & Christ” or whatever Force they worship.

        My greatest fear is for Human Infestation of Deep Space. Rampant, lethal destruction of this earth already indicates that The Elites already have means of getting off-world (It’s amazing how no one seems to figure out this world is being destroyed by ‘gods’ of current society Because THEY ALREADY Have a way to GET OFF THE PLANET.)

        The above is horrifying because Homo Sapiens, elite or not,will destroy every alien life form they will encounter if said life form cannot defend itself from such cancerous incursion.

        God spared Noah from the Great Flood because He and his immediate family did not have tainted DNA, however, he allowed his tainted In-Laws to board the ark, so that was one reason why we have the current spawns of the “seed of the serpent” causing infinite mayhem today. And of course, people always parrot: “Well what are you doing about it?”

        There is nothing I can do but pray that God brings about another purge and this time spares no one. Civilization like everything else related to people is a LIE with no substance and no stability.

        Even among the “prepared”, “the decent ones” the “soup kitchen volunteers” “the substance abuse counselors” all the alleged “do-gooders” are FOR SELF. (“I look out for my neighbors, we will help each other” A JOKE! It will take a very slight circumstance for Prepared Enclaves to turn on one another, such is the fallacy of Human Love and Decency) Humans are just a base animal, engineered and introduced (I believe) by mortal idiots with advanced super technology into a world where We have No Business being on.

        Flawed Begets Flawed. I am done tirading, I am so tired of this world and of the human species. I cannot wait for SHTF no matter how horrible.

        The failed experiment known as Humanity must be ended. I wish there was another way, but after decades of analyzing People and witnessing Our Base Iniquity time and again, there is No Other Way. Deal or No Deal.

        • Ah BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS. I’m getting old and oftimes I think life has not been worthwhile. But I came damn closea a few times and wouldn’t ruin it for everyone. If you cannot take it, cut your own throat. Your genes the world does not need. Just no jobs for seahawks anymore.

          • Curmudgeon, (If you were addressing me) “ruin it for everyone”?

            Everything has ALREADY BEEN RUINED Hundreds of Thousands of years Already! (Not including the Generations of People from the past 50 years of American History ALONE. The Brave,yet Non-Thinking and Misguided “Heroes” of every country, having failed to keep their Individuality (for the most part) and allowed the Psychopaths to attain power (and Further Power) Which is why Earth Societies are in their CURRENT STATE.

            Cut My Throat? I would sooner Push 4 one mile wide asteroids into each Hemisphere of The Planet…………… (Which would destroy me anyway, so there is logic)

            Your reply is a generic COP-OUT, Hate the messenger, and Ignore The Message.

      76. More Slavo bullshit. This fool has been preaching this message for years – and has been dead wrong each every time with his “predictions”. But it does sell a lot of reader views for this crappy website.

        Why none of his groupie followers hold this asshat accountable for his words is a mystery. Probably because none of them are too bright.

        Yep, things ARE declining. Yep, things are getting worse. But fanning the flames of panic that Slavo constantly preaches makes this man a dangerous idiot to the Internet community and his neighbors.

        Anybody that follows or listens to this asshat is a fool.

        • Well you have proven at least one person is

      77. .02, Just so there were no problems I gave her a box of Hamburger Helper and so ground Deer meat then she said do you have any bread no, not at the moment it is still in the oven, YOU make your own bread? of course doesn’t everyone. I offered her my recipe and a packet of yeast her answer was no thanks. My answer is don’t ask again or you are going to get something you don’t want; my mouth in full gear.

      78. The one thing that i remember the most clearly over the past 40 years of my school days at Brandeis University in 1970’s are my student adviser’s words that when he was growing up that his grand parents and parents used the term “‘goyishe kup,’” meaning that the “Non-Jews are Stupid”
        Later in life I learned that the exact translation of “GOYISHE KUP” means that the “Cattle are STUPID”..
        I remember him recalling what his father told him when he was growing up in Eastern Europe. One of them being that when his father was in high school he and a group of friends would skip school early on Fridays and go over to his friend’s father’s butcher shop. That they would buy at cost any cows , that had not been butchered by the end of the day on Friday before the start of Shabat . They would take the cow home and wash it and then the boys would procede to “beat the udders of the cows so that they would swell up and turn pink” so as to sell them to the “GOYISHE KUP” as milk producing cows.
        The part that I remember him asking me if the East Europeans are so “naive, so gullible and so stupid” to buy an old “non milk producing cows” from a bunch of young Jewish Boys.
        So re-thinking of it now I agree with the Jewish saying that the “GOYISHE KUP” are indeed” Stupid” as they believe that a Bunch of Arab Moslem Kids who were not able to Fly a Cessna Airplane took it upon themselves to FLY a Jumbo 747 and outwitted the US Militaryand Civilian authorities. The “Jewish Lightning Insurance Scam” of the 1960’s is still alive and well has been put to good use by Larry Silverstein in putting 15 million down and comming out with 7 billion dollars for buidings that no one wanted to buy because it would have cost a billion dollars to remove the asbestos from. Then on top of that the people in America actually believe that they actually decide who is elected President or for that that actual VOTE is really counted and makes a difference in deciding who represents them in the White House and congress.

        http://www.911missinglinks.com

        http://911justicecampaign.org/black-911-money-motive-technology-and-plausible-deniability/

        bollyn.com

        http://www.zengardner.com/911-consummate-expose/#comment-37173

        AE911truth.org, Rethink911.org, fromthetrenchesworldreport.com

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rzlb4Zwl74&feature=related

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU&feature=related

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxnpujfanUM

        http://www.dailypaul.com/253111/new-9-11-truth-documentary-among-most-watched-on-pbs-this-week

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltP2t9nq9fI&feature=youtu.be

        whatreallyhappened.com rense.com

        undergrounddocumentaries.com, http://www.brasschecktv.com

        http://www.youtube.com/user/ae911truth

        Oy Veh, I agree that the American Non-Jews are indeed “GOYISHE KUP” or “STUPID CATTLE”!

      79. Hyperinflation is coming because of all the money printing. Foreigners will dump the dollar. OPEC will stop accepting dollars as payment for oil. The dollar will die. The economy will collapse. Governments at all levels will cease to function. There will be no more electricity, public water, police, or fire protection. There will be mass social unrest and martial law. At least 250 million Americans will die. I don’t know how anybody survives unless God protects you. There are a lot of economists and investment people saying that it all happens in 2014. We don’t have years left. We probably only have months.

      80. Let’s be honest, this may happen to some degree, however, when SHTF, these people will die within ten miles of their house. Even the roving hordes of violent people.

        Think about it, Katrina was a perfect example. All your big, bad gangbangers were standing on the roofs and at the Superdome begging for help.

        A placated society doesn’t have the motivation to ‘raid’ anyone.

      81. Dear people who claim to make bread,
        We get it, you think you are prepared. Your kind are going to be the second to go, so maybe you
        can stop bragging about having the skills of a human.

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