12 Shocking Clues About What America Will Look Like When The Next Great Economic Crisis Strikes

by | Oct 21, 2013 | Headline News | 320 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    Crime-Scene-Photo-by-JRLibby-300x300The collapse of American society is accelerating.  For the moment, much of our social decay is being masked by the tremendous level of affluence that we are experiencing.  It has been reported that 4 out of every 5 adults in the United States “struggle with joblessness, near-poverty or reliance on welfare for at least parts of their lives”, but in general Americans still enjoy a debt-fueled standard of living that is far beyond what most of the rest of the world enjoys.  When that debt-fueled standard of living permanently disappears, it is going to unleash chaos unlike anything that America has ever seen before.  Right now, economic conditions in this country are not anywhere close to where they were before 2008, but this is just the beginning.  We are in the midst of an ongoing economic collapse which is going to get much, much worse in the years ahead.  When the next major wave of the economic crisis strikes, millions of people are going to become extremely desperate.  And desperate people do desperate things.  We are already starting to see this play out all over the nation, but this is only a preview of coming attractions.  What we are going to witness in future years is going to be almost too horrible for words.

    So how can I be so sure that this is going to happen?  After all, the United States didn’t descend into complete and utter chaos during the Great Depression of the 1930s.  Wouldn’t an economic depression unfold in a similar manner today?

    Unfortunately, a lot has changed since then.  A lot more Americans were self-sufficient back in those days, and the truth is that the character of our nation has been rotting and decaying for decades.  In a previous article, I described it this way…

    “We are simply not the same country that we used to be.  Americans are proud, selfish, greedy, arrogant, ungrateful, treacherous and completely addicted to entertainment and pleasure.  Our country is literally falling apart all around us, but most Americans are so plugged into entertainment that they can’t even be bothered to notice what is happening.”

    Just last weekend, there were “mini-riots” in several U.S. states when “technical issues” caused the food stamp system to go haywire for a few hours.

    What would have happened if there had been an extended outage or if the political crisis in D.C. had caused food stamps to be completely cut off at some point in November?

    Let’s be thankful that we did not have to find out.

    But even though major food stamps riots may have been averted (at least for now), there are a whole host of other signs that America is going to become a very unstable place during the next major economic downturn.  The following are 12 shocking clues about what America will look like when the next great economic crisis strikes…

    #1 Would you continue to work as a bus driver if you were stabbed while driving or if a passenger poured urine all over you?  Just check out what has been going on in Detroit lately

    After two drivers were recently stabbed and another had urine poured on her by an angry rider, union officials representing bus drivers for the city of Detroit are set to protest in front of city hall at 10 a.m. on Monday.

    #2 We are starting to see a lot of “group crimes” happen all over America.  For example, just the other day in Brooklyn, New York a gang of 10 young thugs dragged a young couple out of their vehicle and brutally beat them…

    Ronald Russo was dragged to the ground. Then he was punched and kicked in the head. He felt more blows all over his body, investigators said. He suffered a fractured nose, a broken septum, a blood clot and abrasions to his shoulder. He was treated and released from Beth Israel Medical Center.

    In the midst of the attack, there was a steady chorus of epithets. “White motherf—–!” screamed the attackers, who ranged in age from 12 to 18.

    Alanna Russo, 30, was calling 911 when the 12-year-old girl pulled the woman’s hair and threw her to the ground. The victim’s head slammed into the concrete. She suffered a black eye, bleeding and difficulty breathing, prosecutors said, but she refused medical attention.

    #3 A lot of people assume that they are perfectly safe inside their own vehicles but that is not the case at all.  A story in the New York Postabout a gang of bikers that ruthlessly hunted down a young family that was driving an SUV made national headlines a few weeks ago…

    A gang of bikers terrorized a dad driving with his wife and baby daughter on the West Side Highway — chasing after their SUV and then dragging the man out and beating him to a pulp in front of his horrified family, authorities said.

    When the bikers caught up with this family they showed the father of the baby daughter absolutely no mercy…

    One biker can be seen on the video ripping off his helmet and using it to bash in Lien’s driver’s-side window.

    The crew pummeled Lien on the pavement in front of his wife, Rosalyn Ng, and their 2-year-old daughter, police sources said.

    Lien, who also was slashed during the melee, was rushed to Columbia University Medical Center. He needed stitches to his face and chest and had two black eyes.

    #4 We are living at a time when hearts are becoming very cold.  Some Americans are becoming so desperate for money that they will do almost anything to get it.  In fact, one couple in Tennessee has actually been charged with selling their four daughters for use in sex films

    An East Tennessee couple is facing a list of charges, accused of selling their children to take part in sex films.

    Connie Sue McCall, 40, and her husband, Ronnie Lee McCall, 61, of Johnson City have been charged by a federal grand jury.

    Paperwork shows the couple was selling their four daughters.

    Prosecutors say the four girls were between the ages of 5 and 16 when this happened.

    Could you imagine such a thing happening in your neighborhood?

    Perhaps it is happening, but you just don’t know that it is going on.

    #5 And it is not only older people that are having their hearts grow cold.  It is happening to young people too.  Last week, a 17-year-old girl was caught carrying around a dead baby (which she probably gave birth to) in a shopping bag in a Victoria’s Secret store right in the heart of Manhattan

    The dead baby found in the teen’s shopping bag at a Victoria’s Secret store in Manhattan was born alive and then asphyxiated, police said Friday, as the macabre discovery turned toward a possible homicide case.

    Police believe 17-year-old Tiana Rodriguez gave birth to the baby at a friend’s house and that the infant was later asphyxiated. However, the city medical examiner’s office said an autopsy was inconclusive, and more tests were needed.

    Who does something like that?

    #6 Sadly, a lot of mothers appear to be losing the natural affection that they should have for their children.  Just check out another incident that happened in New York City recently

    So much for no child left behind.

    A stroller-toting mom who used her 1-year-old son as cover during a massive candy shoplifting spree at a downtown Duane Reade used the tot’s pram as a battering ram when workers confronted her — and then ran away without the baby, the NYPD said.

    #7 One of the clearest signs that American society is decaying is the fact that groups of kids are banding together and agreeing to commit absolutely horrible crimes.  We have seen this with the “flash mob” robberies that are plaguing many cities, but what is even worse is when groups of kids band together to commit violent acts.  In Pennsylvania recently, a group of teens cheered on attackers as they beat up a 15-year-old girl…

    Speaking exclusively to CBS 3, a 15-year-old high school student, whose identity we are concealing, described a terrifying attack by a gang of at least nine teenage boys as she was leaving an Interboro High School football game Monday night.

    The teenage victim described first being taunted by the attackers, who followed her down a neighborhood street, cursing and spitting at her, before she was repeatedly kicked and punched, suffering at least one blow to her head.

    The attackers even tried to throw her in front of a passing vehicle and nobody tried to stop them…

    The victim says as at least two of the teenagers pummeled her, the others cheered them on shouting, “Come on, let’s get her!” At one point, the victim says, the gang tried to throw her under the wheels of a passing car, which swerved, narrowly missing her.

    What is happening to this country?

    #8 We have also been hearing about a lot of “gang rapes” lately as well.  The following is an excerpt from a first-hand account from a 14-year-old girl in Missouri that experienced this type of horrible ordeal…

    About five shots tall, I drank it. I guess I didn’t know how badly it would mess me up. But the boys who gave it to me did.

    Then it was like I fell into a dark abyss. No light anywhere. Just dark, dense silence — and cold. That’s all I could ever remember from that night. Apparently, I was there for not even an entire hour before they discarded me in the snow.

    You can read the rest of her sobering story right here.

    Are you starting to understand why I am so convinced that we have a major problem with our young men in America today?

    Instead of raising young gentlemen, we are raising wild animals that seem to have very little self-control.

    #9 And sometimes the public does not do anything to stop sexual assaults even when they happen on public streets.  In a recent incident in Athens, Ohio, not only did the public not stop a sexual assault, many actually took photos of the assault and posted them on social media websites…

    Horrific photos of an alleged rape in progress have been shared on social media after crowds at a college homecoming celebration chose to take pictures and videos of the sex act rather than stopping it.

    Would such a thing have happened in our country 50 years ago?

    Of course not.

    We need to come to grips with how far we have fallen.

    #10 In America today, young kids can beat a homeless man to death and it barely even makes a blip on the news.  I’ll bet hardly any of you have heard about what happened recently to a homeless man in New Jersey

    Three teenagers were in custody Saturday morning, on charges of beating a homeless man to his death in Hoboken, N.J.

    As CBS 2’s Janelle Burrell reported, Hudson County Acting Prosecutor Gaetano T. Gregory said two 13-year-olds and a 14-year-old were charged in the Sept. 10 death of Ralph Eric Santiago, 46.

    What would cause 13-year-olds and 14-year-olds to behave so savagely?

    Could it be because we are raising them in a society where basic morality is not taught any longer?

    #11 Our young people certainly do not have much respect for the very elderly anymore either.  Instead, the elderly are looked at as “weak” and “easy prey”.  Just check out what recently happened to a 70-year-old man in upstate New York…

    A 70-year-old man was seriously injured early Saturday morning after being attacked outside of a 7-Eleven in Syracuse.

    Police say James Gifford had just left the store at the intersection of Valley Drive and South Street just after 6:00 a.m. and was attacked by a group of five or six black males, according to Syracuse Police.

    Police also said this appears to be an unprovoked incident with an innocent victim.

    #12 In this day and age, it is very hard to tell who you can trust.  You might meet someone on the street and they might smile and seem very nice, but inside they may be full of all kinds of garbage.  For example, just check out what one man in the Boston area planned to do

    A Boston-area man, who was planning to kidnap children, lock them in a basement dungeon, rape and eat them, should be imprisoned for at least 27 years, federal authorities said in court documents filed this week.

    Geoffrey Portway pleaded guilty in May to distribution and possession of child pornography and solicitation to commit a crime of violence, according to court documents. He is scheduled to be sentenced on September 17.

    “Portway has pled guilty to some of the most vile and heinous crimes known to our society,” federal prosecutors wrote in a sentencing recommendation.

    This is how twisted and perverted our society has become.

    A lot of Americans believe that if we could just elect “the right politicians” or if we could just change our economic system or if we could just fix one particular issue that everything would be right in America again.

    Unfortunately, what we are facing is not so simple.  Our problems are not just in Washington D.C. or on Wall Street.  The truth is that our biggest problem is what is going on inside of us.

    America is rotting and decaying on the inside, and the next great economic crisis is going to reveal just how bad things have gotten.

    Or could it be possible that I am overstating things?  Please feel free to share what you think about the ongoing collapse of our society by posting a comment below…

    Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years. Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.


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      1. And 99% of this is happening where you can not carry a gun.

        • FBP, welcome back. How are you feeling? on carrying a gun, I’m going to start carrying anyway.

          • For those folks that cannot or will not carry a firearm for protection from the predators, might I make a suggestion: carry in your car a spray can of wasp spray, the kind that shoots 25ft. Quite effective on all kinds of vermin. Hit them in the eyes and a quick trip to the ER is in order.

            • And you WILL wind up in jail for doing that.

              • Coyote,
                I suggest that you just take your lickin or take a crash course in Ebonics…The suggestion was the alternative to shooting someone. A person in that life death situation don’t have many options and it is preferred to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6..thank you and have a great day. It’s your life-pal.

                • Spending our tax money…

                  HealthCare.gov Site Was Built by Canadian Firm

                  “I wonder how many jobless Americans are aware that their tax dollars went to a Canadian firm to build the HealthCare.gov website. CGI Federal is the IT company that built most of Healthcare.gov.”

                  “CGI Federal is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Canadian firm CGI Group.

                  Lydia Phillips, writing in the Washington Post, notes that CGI Federal sees
                  “the U.S. federal government as their area of biggest growth. CGI Federal’s health-care practice has grown 90 percent year over year, largely due to the Healthcare.gov project…”

                  “Roach went on to say that he continues to view the “U.S. Federal Government as a significant growth opportunity” with $8 billion in the pipeline for future orders.

                  Are we to believe that there is no company in the United States that could have built the HealthCare.gov website?

                  The site cost just under $100 million to construct.”

                  Godfather Politics dot com

                  • And if you look at the higher-ups at CGI Federal,it’s stuffed with former U.S Military senior officers and former ranking gov officials. Nothing improper at all in the award of the contract to them I’m sure. Another example of the beltway revolving door.

                  • My point is NOT to dis Canadian workers. My point is that there are millions of Americans who are unemployed right now. The government should be focusing on employing AMERICANS, rather than sending jobs abroad.

                    I was also upset when I read about cities hiring Chinese workers to build bridges and roads in the United States in 2011. No one can convince me they couldn’t find any American construction workers to do those jobs.

                    U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms
                    “Cities hire Chinese instead of American workers for building projects.”
                    ABC News

                    Direct link below

                  • Alittle correction KY Mom- the website cost $634 million to build- NOT the orginal $100 million that it was supposed to. I guess the “good news” is that the piece of crap didn’t cost us a whole billion!

                  • CGI is also the outfit that designed our gun registry system. A system that has cost over a thousand times the quoted 2 million dollars.

                    And their system is so flawed its not even funny. To the point that some guy even manages to register his soldering gun, which is 120V AC in “caliber”.

                    So it is no wonder the Obamacare website is crap.

                  • It was built by the American arm of a Canadian firm. In the global world this is not uncommon.

                  • Heard on the news last night that AMAZON.com only cost ~$80 million to build, and they handle how much yearly volumn?

                    Just like the $200 hammer, and the $400 toilet, I but they spent only $5 million on the site, and the other money went somewhere else.

                    Another underground bunker anyone?

                • Sorry, but your a fool.

                  There are a number of better products out there, like Cold Steel’s Inferno.

                  Active Ingredients : 8% Oleoresin Capsicum, 2% Black Pepper.
                  2,000,000 Scoville Heat Unites (SHU)
                  Scoville Value : 160,000
                  Capsaicinoid Content: 1.00 %

                  Use this and don’t in up in jail. Blinding someone will not win you a lot of sympathy with a jury.

                  But hey, do what you want and be sure to tell the Brothers you blinded one of them.

                  I’m sure you’ll be popular with your homies in your new home.

                • The Zimmerman lesson was: Don’t call the police. You can’t be tried by 12 if nobody knows it was you.

                  • Zimmerman did not call the police. Someone else did. Get out of the area ASAP if you can. If need be get a lawyer and turn yourself in later if you have been IDed.

              • Say When, I’ll start carrying that as well. As far as any consequences are concerned, it’s the attackers who will face consequences and not the person acting in self-defense.

              • Coyote, if you’re too scared of the consequences of exercising your right to self-defense in any life-or-death situation, then you don’t need to go anywhere outside your home. That’s not living. I refuse to live in fear of such BS. The victim is never the problem it’s the perpetrator who is the problem. anyone who targets me for an act of self-defense had better be ready to pay a price for trying to hurt me. braveheart

                • No, I’m not scared.

                  I just don’t subscribe to a BS myth of wasp spray!

                  Where did I ever say I was scared of using self-defense?

                  Hell, I CCW, carry a knife, and have other items on me.

                  But no, you put words in my mouth. You call me a coward.

                  I point out a flaw and I get slammed for it!

              • MICoyote, kindly cite a few cases where a self-defense using bug spray put the good guy in jail, haven’t heard of that going on lately.

              • MICoyote: Maybe, maybe not. After the Zimmerman trial prosecutors are going to be even more cautious about charging someone in questionable ‘deadly force’ cases. By the way, most cases are not questionable because there are almost always cameras and or eye witnesses. And if it’s two or more against one, the shooter isn’t going to spend a minute in jail unless one of the perps is shot in the back. In NYC were one can’t even have a gun, the SUV driver and his wife were beaten by a gang of motor cyclers. So, he gets a beating and survives. Lucky him. Here in Florida there would have been a couple of dead bikers because at least 1 in 10 folks carry a concealed weapon (pistol), not to mention shotguns. But then again, that’s why you’ll never see these road rage or teen gangs like other states because folks down here know they stand a real chance of getting shot if they pull that crap.

              • Mr Zimmerman didnt ! 🙂

          • Braveheart, I would be packing too… the animals are every where… here is the hidden but obvious truth hiding right out in plain sight – for decades now, we’ve been teaching kids that there is no God – morals are relative – that they’re all nothing more than ‘advanced’ forms of (wild)‘animals’ based on the ‘facts’ of evolution (yea, right… like I really believe that one), and then society acts horrified when these sub-humans actually start acting like the animals the schools have seemingly convinced them that they are! Go figure…

            • Jerry C., AMEN. The judicial system won’t do anything to someone who makes an unjustifiable criminal attack on someone, but they have no problem punishing would-be victims who act in self-defense. If I’m attacked by someone, I WILL ACT IN SELF-DEFENSE, PERIOD! And if anyone targets me over that act of self-defense, that someone will face consequences for trying to hurt me. their best bet is to just back off from me, period! braveheart

            • Wow! What another “Coincidence” that what darwin taught is an almost exact same thing as the Babylonian Talmud teaches…IE: Both Darwin & Talmud teach that humans are Animals.

              About the Only major difference, is that while Darwin says all folks evolved from apes or monkeys, the Babylonian jewish Talmud teaches that, Only Gentile Goyims Are, not ‘evolved” but ARE animals and insects, when compared to jewish folks, who are actual real Humans.

              Must be another “coincidence” that the NAACP was invented, instituted, Funded, and Run by 6-russian kommie jewish men who came to america and started the NAACP Org, in about 1906 or 1909 era. They found one single African Black man, himself an admited CPUSA(kommie perty usa) member to act as their non jewish “front Man” for MSM mentiones of the NAACP Org.

              Amazeing what can happen to the nation when known kommie Khazars adept at talmudic practices are allowed to Hyjack total govnt and MSM Control eh.

              No wonder they so fit the name so many other nations peoples prior to us americans has given their group. IE: Nation Wreckers.

              Since early 1900 era, in just over 100 yrs, those khazar kommie talmudics have organized and operated over 300+ talmudic judaic agencies and Orgs. All devoted to hatred of, and total destruction of, Gentile goyims..Especially those of the White racial variety. Doubly so when its christian whites!

              And as long as the Vast Majority of american gentiles continue to refuse to admit to these facts, similar to refusal to see that proverbial elephant in the middle of their living rooms, none of the many evils and wrongs so destroying the usa today are ever going to change for the better.

              There are only 2 sides. The Right and the Wrong. And ALL Enablers and unquestioning Defenders of those khazars, based on false teachings or false prohecys, Are included in that camp of Enablers. Self chozen status or falsehoods taught by misguided pastors just does Not cut it nor excuse enableing such khazar nation wreckers.

              • Is there anyone throughout history that isn’t a Jew to you? Especially if that person did wrong.

              • Them Guys, you actually drive home an interesting point to ponder and consider… I have yet to meet any one individual or group of individuals who don’t have some kind of ‘hidden’ agenda – no matter how small or minute – and your comments “seemingly” drive that point home. Apparently you and I are no exception.

                A really awesome individual once said: “…here is the verdict – light has come into the world but men loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light and won’t come into the light for fear that their [evil] deeds will be exposed.”

              • @ not so much (more like, “nothing at all”)

                Don’t let the evidence get in the way of your completely absurd and deceitful position.

                “You are adam [“man”], but goyim [gentiles] are not called adam [“man”].” Kerithoth 6b

                “The seed of the goyim is like an animal.” Sanhedrin 74b

                “All Gentile children are animals.” Yebamoth 98a

                God created them [goyim] in the form of men for the glory of Israel… for the sole end of ministering unto them [the Jews] day and night. Nor can they ever be relieved of this service. It is becoming to the son of a king [an Israelite] that animals in their natural form and animals in the form of human beings should minister unto him. Midrash Talpioth 225a

                “…’living soul’ designates Israel because they are children of the Almighty, and their souls, which are holy, come from Him. From whence come the souls of other peoples? R[abbi] Eleazar said: ‘They obtain souls from those sides of the left which convey impurity, and therefore they are all impure and defile those who have contact with them.’…’living soul’ refers to Israel, who have holy living souls from above, and ‘cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth,’ to the other peoples who are not ‘living soul,” but who are as we have said.” Bereshith 47a

                “Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever… their material abundance derives from supernal refuse. Indeed, they themselves derive from refuse, which is why they are more numerous than the Jews…” Abraham Foxbrunner. Habad: The Hasidism of Schneur Zalman of Lyady. Northvale NJ: Jason Aronson Inc., 1983. Pp. 108-109.

                “The Jew by his source and in his very essence is entirely good. The goy, by his source and his very essence, is completely evil. This is not simply a matter of religious distinction, but rather of two completely different species.” Rabbi Saadya Grama, Romemut Yisrael Ufarashat Hagalut (“Jewish Superiority and the Question of Exile”) 2003.

                Souls of non-Jews come entirely from the female part of the Satanic sphere. For this reason souls of non-Jews are called evil.” [Yesaiah Tishbi, Torat ha-Rave-ha-Kelippahnbe-Kabbalat ha-Ari (The Theory of Evil and the Satanic Sphere in Kabbalah) 1942, reprinted 1982]

                Because Gentiles are not human, Gentiles are owed no debt of morality or decency – not honesty [Baba Kamma 113a], not property [Baba Mezia 24a], not even life! — “The best of the Gentiles should all be killed.” Soferim 15, 10

                “Happy will be the lot of Israel, whom the Holy One, blessed be He, has chosen from amongst the goyim of whom the Scriptures say: ‘Their work is but vanity, it is an illusion at which we must laugh; they will all perish when God visits them in His wrath.’ At the moment when the Holy One, blessed be He, will exterminate all the goyim of the world, Israel alone will subsist, even as it is written: ‘The Lord alone will appear great on that day.’” Jean de Pavly, Editor, “Vayschlah177b”, Sepher ha-Zohar (Le livre de la splendeur), Volume II, Emile Lafuma-Giraud, Paris, (1908), p. 298

                “Some of the Turks and the nomads in the North, and the Blacks and the nomads in the South, and those who resemble them in our climates. And their nature is like the nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the level of human beings, and their level among existing things is below that of a man and above that of a monkey, because they have the image and the resemblance of a man more than a monkey does.”
                Maimonides explaining who is not fit “to participate in the world to come,”
                Guide for the Perplexed, Book III, chapter 51 cited in Israel Shahak, Hebrew University Professor, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years. London: Pluto Press, 1997. p. 25.

                “… the explanation of the matter, [is to be found] in light of what Rabbi Chayim Vital wrote in Shaar HaKedushah (and in Etz Chayim, Portal 5, ch. 2) — that every Jew, whether righteous or wicked, possesses two souls, as it is written, “And neshamot (souls) which I have made. … The second, uniquely Jewish, soul is truly “a part of G-d above, The souls of the nations of the world (the Gentiles), however, emanate from the other, unclean kelipot which contain no good whatever, as is written in Etz Chayim, Portal 40, ch. 3, that all the good that (Gentiles) do, is done out of selfish motives. So the Gemara comments on the verse, “The kindness of (Gentiles) is sin” — that all the charity and kindness done by (Gentiles) of the world is only for their self-glorification…” (Chapters 1 and 2) The lower category consists of three completely unclean and evil kelipot, containing no good whatever… From them flow and are derived the souls of all the nations of the world (Gentiles), and the sustaining force of their bodies. Also derived from these kelipot are the souls of all living creatures that are unclean and forbidden to be eaten, and the sustaining force of their bodies.” Tanya, Chapter 6

                The highly revered Rabbi Menachem Mandel Schneerson, who headed the Chabad movement and wielded great influence in Israel as well [and proclaimed himself messiah], explained that ‘The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: ‘Let us differentiate.’ Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather we have a case of ‘let us differentiate’ between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of all nations of the world.'” Allan C. Brownfield, “It Is Time to Confront the Exclusionary Ethnocentrism,” Issues of the American Council for Judaism, Winter 2000, cited in Michael Hoffman, Judaism Discovered, pp.365-366.

                “For, the world was created only for the sake of Israel. There are none called the children of God, except Israel. There are none beloved of God, except Israel. ” Seven Minor Treatises: Sefer Torah; Mezuzah; Tefillin; Zizit; Abadim; Kutim; Gerim And Treatise Soferim II.
                Edited from manuscripts with an introduction, notes, variants and translation. By Michael Higger, Ph.D. New York; Block Publishing Company. 1930. Pp. 47-48.

                “And for Christians let there be no hope…” Birkat HaMinim, “Benediction” #12 of the Shmone Esreh

                “It is our duty to praise the Master of All, to ascribe greatness to the molder of primeval creation, for He has not made us like the nations of the lands, for He has not assigned our portion like theirs nor our lot like theirs, for they bow to vanity and emptiness and pray to a god who cannot save–man, ash, blood, bile, stinking flesh, maggot, defiled men and women, adulterers and adulteresses, dying in their iniquity and rotting in their wickedness, worn out dust, rot of maggot [and worm]–and pray to a god who cannot save.” Aleinu from Judaic prayer book, Two Nations in Your Womb, Israel Jacob Yuval, University of California Press, 2006, p.119

                “I too, like Hitler, believe in the power of the blood idea”
                Chaim Nachman Bailik, Israel’s national poet, in “The Present Hour” (1934).

            • Jerry C,

              If you haven’t read this already, you may find it interesting but the mass media will never give it any credibility.

              By Michael Gryboski, Christian Post Reporter

              October 18, 2013|5:25 pm

              A recently discovered skull in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia may challenge the traditional notions of human evolution.

              Researchers writing for Science Magazine found skulls at Dmanisi, one of which bore a strong resemblance to skeletons found in Africa from the time period.

              The significance? The various species predating Homo Sapiens may have been subsets of the same species rather than different species as the traditional evolutionary theory posits.

              “The Dmanisi sample, which now comprises five crania, provides direct evidence for wide morphological variation within and among early Homo paleodemes,” reads the article’s abstract in part.

              “This implies the existence of a single evolving lineage of early Homo, with phylogeographic continuity across continents.”

              Christoph Zollikofer, researcher with Zurich’s Anthropological Institute and Museum who coauthored the article, called it “an extraordinary find in many respects.”

              Some kids are actually good and moral, certainly not as many as there should be but they are out there. I feel sorry for them when the indoctrinated youth grow up and most of the backbone types in this country are either too old to care or gone. As of now, there are more than two million homeschoolers in this country. They will have their work cut out for them when they have to deal with the brain dead, immoral, greedy, lazy and desperate next generation of Obama zombies that the educational system is raising.

              A brief example, my 16 year old Son is homeschooled but he does attend an automotive tech. class that the public school offers. When you homeschool, you have the option to take electives at the public school. We drive him there and pick him up every day, the class is about an hour and a half and is actually quite exemplary, last year he took small engine repair. Today, three of the immoral little punks got in his face and drew a penis on his back pack because he wouldn’t let them copy his test answers. My Son stood up, he is 6’2″ and calmly told them to remove the drawing or they would have a problem, and if they wanted to know what the problem was then don’t remove it, they immediately erased the drawing and slid back to their seats.

              My Son has strength of character and doesn’t care about impressing anyone who he sees as a loser. I asked him what he would have done if they didn’t remove it and he said he hadn’t thought that far ahead but said he probably would have dared them to make the first move and if they did then all bets were off. I really couldn’t argue with that. I was proud.

              • Swinging on a Star… thanks for the input. While I don’t hold to evolution, I don’t belittle those who do.
                I do find it interesting that one of the statements made in the Scope / Monkey trial back in the 1920’s that was made by the ‘pro-evolution’ side of the issue which apparently had a positive impact on the long range objective of the actual intent of the trial was: “it is the hight of bigotry to allow only one side of an argument to be presented as ‘fact’ in our schools” – creation.

                Since then, the ‘creation’ account has been successfully removed and replaced with only evolution – which is presented predominately as ‘fact’. Wow. And look at all the failed attempts to get ‘both’ sides to be presented ‘again’ in the public school system. Talk about bigotry.

                Anyway, I too would be (and – I am) proud to have a son like yours. Bully for him – no pun intended.

          • BH Doing good I did spring a leak and require a overnight and a little cut and repair. (Not uncommon).

            Anyone that does not carry 24/7 is just a idiot vic in waiting.

            If you live where you cant carry your justs a stupid idiot.

            • FBP, I’m going to carry regardless. I’ve been a victim in years past, but I won’t be a victim again. anyone who targets me for anything had better expect resistance from me, period! Hope you get well soon. braveheart

          • Braveheart,

            “Carrying Anyway”? How do you do that? Its impossible.

            “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

            Oh, You mean, “I’m going to carry inspite of what the law breaking polititions have written on worthless sheets of payer that tell me I cant.”

            Color of law is not law. The Constitution is law.

            If you get caught and they try to “Color Of Law” you butt, do this: at first contact with the paid liar/thug/jackboot/tyranny agent say, “Officer, I have rights protected by the constitution and I declare all of them. Most notably I separately declare my right to keep and bear arms. Do you intend to infringe on my rights?”

            The recent Salinas vs. Texas SCOTUS case has proven two things:

            1) You do not have your rights in the constitution unless you declare them.

            2) One may ask, “Why do we have to declare them?” Reason: The defacto (default) system of laws is *NOT* common/constitutional law!!!

            The UCC (Uniform Commercial Code, AKA Admiralty Law) is what we run under by default. But! They can get away with it *ONLY* because of our ignorance. Under the UCC you have no right to bear arms, however, the UCC cannot be beligerent to the “Supreme Law Of The Land”. As such, when you declare your rights you, essentially create a “constitutional zone” on the ground on which you stand.

            Its a backup position. Personally I carry EVERYWHERE I can get away with it. …and I work in some places I am not supposed to carry according to state (color of) law.

            Do not feel powerless! Even if you have signed away many of your rights, you have not signed them away for good.

            DECLARE THEM! They are only yours if you declare them.

        • The internal rot is not just in America. It’s all over the world. You can read stories like this everywhere, It’s hard to say whether its different today or whether it is just more publicized, given the advent of mass media.

          There is clearly a movement in the young black community to take their frustrations out on the white population wherever they can, but lets remember that the CIA has been targeting the inner cities with drugs for decades.

          If you are white, move to Arizona, conceal carry a weapon and shoot any gang of young thugs that threaten you. Most of these assaults occur in “gun free states” where justice and instant karma is not likely to be served by a potential victim with a concealed firearm.

          WE are in the Last Days and the breakdown of society will get worse, not better, unless justice is served by the barrel of a gun in self defense. Even a 32 auto would have deterred many of these crimes.

          An armed society is a polite society. Forewarned is well armed. Engage your employees or be disarmed and left defenseless by them. 🙂

          • Give me a rational purpose for the CIA to be “targeting the inner cities with drugs”.

            Serious question.

            • Yo Old Coach –

              Some suggest that the ‘inner-cities’ are targeted simply because they are the most vulnerable. Those who for the most part live in despair are probably also the most receptive to any sort of ‘temporary escape’ offered; irregardless of the long term cost.

              Vicious rumor also has it that the CIA uses the profits of their drug dealing in the inner cities to fund some of their more disgusting crimes against humanity; the really secret ones that they can’t get funded through Congress.

              I have no way of knowing for sure, but I would, sadly, be willing to believe almost anything about our beloved government. We, as a nation, certainly DON’T hold the ‘moral-high-ground’ in the world anymore; if we ever did.

              God Bless & good luck.

            • Money. And it’s no coincidence that 3 things all happened at basically the same time – 1) the privatizing of the prison system, 2) Clinton’s “100,000 new cops on the street” programs, and 3) the sudden unflux of crack cocaine into the inner cities. They’re all tied together, and it’s no big secret that the CIA has been flying the drugs in here for decades. Google plane + “Cocaine One”.

              • Trust me on this one- I have first hand, personal knowledge and experience that in the mid ’80’s, the CIA was indeed involved in trafficking coke in Central America. I was there (in Honduras) at the time and we were requested by them to use our export business as cover to “assist” them. We turned them down, and it wasn’t until 20 years later that we put all the pieces together of what was going on. Just glad we did what was right- instead of caving in to our temptations.

                • CwinOR
                  you are correct we also would replace major drug kingpins with ones that would co-operate where others would not, and you know what i mean by replace! YUP

            • Do you really not know the answer to this one?

              A stoned populace is easier to control.

            • Money is one of the correct answers as drugs were the way that the CIA funded their black ops offshore, forgive the pun.

              CIA agents have been notorious about using their official and quasi official positions to enrich themselves individually through offshore corporations, the drug trade, arms trade, and financial manipulation of other nation’s currencies.

              A vulnerable population with low education, low IQ, and lower moral values another. Easy prey. 🙂

              • Operation: Mockingbird…AKA CIA placed at least one cia operative agent into EVERY american TV news show, Newspaper, and magazine, and basically got every MSM outlet to propagandize the usa public constantly with whatever agenda the fed gov, wanted.

                State Dept controls the cia. Not sure if its supposed to or not? But they most obviously do control cia. And who Is the usa state dept heads and upper echolon? Mostly zionists and khazars. Who also now control all MSM’s too.

                Operation mockingbird was a proven secret fed govnt opps, that if I recall it was movie maker Oliver Stone who got FOIA released documents from burried Top Secret CIA archives. He got wise to the massive number of hidden cia stuff when he was researching archives and fed govnt papers related to JFK being killed for his movie about JFK.

                RT TV news just did another expose’ on several prior hidden agendas of the CIA etc et al, besides that mockingbird operation. With the proper related previously secret hidden documentations etc that have recently been revealed thru FOIA demands. Just yesterday RT tv interviewed some guy thats involved in outting such info, and RT Tv showed several previously secret docs, with the CIA header visible at the top of pages, and actual cia or state dept heads signatures at bottom of said documents. You cannot get better Proof than actual signed state dept and cia prior hidden papers not meant for Your eyes.

                Some folks simply refuse to believe their govnt may be corrupted, and even fewer folks are willing to believe that the Main, not the only but the Main Major, culprits happen to be khazar jews and zionists. But that won’t change the Facts that yes they are of those groups.

                The USA-CIA is the western 1/2 of its cousin/brother in the mid east, Israeli Mossad. Both are run and staffed in top control positions mainly by khazar jews and zionists.

                Neither exists for Our benifit.

            • To create slaves and keep people under government control.

              To make money (it has been proved they have done this in other country’s )

              To focus the American people on the inner city drug problem as opposed to the freedoms being taken away on a daily basis.

              To divide and subjugate the American people.

              There are a couple for ya

              • Well, I’ll say one thing for you: You may be poor but its not because you’re stupid!

                I think you hit all those nails home in one stroke each!

                Thank you sir!

          • So we kick Christ out of our schools, courts, military, and public square. Then we teach anomalism while aborting 1.2 million children a year ( 50 million so far… we owe Hitler and Moe and Stalin an apology). Tim Tebow is ridiculed for having a clean life and other thug athletes are lifted to god like statues. I could go on for days…… I did notice a lot of these things happened on the east. The anti gun east….. I love the Pacific Northwest… when someone showed up to shoot up a shopping mall several CCW folks “hunted” the killer scumbag so he shot himself. It is going to get uglier so you best have a faith in the Lord and prep to protect your team and loved ones.
            And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
            For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places
            2 Peter 3:3-4 …’Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts…


            • @ manontheinside

              So you love the northwest. How about Seattle which is nicknamed “junkie town” or Portland which has the highest homeless population. Both are lib, drug infested nightmares in my opinion. Try watching drugsinc on Natgeo about these 2 cities and see if you still think they are wholesome. The cops in Seattle setup a coke dealer to buy from an undercover and then arrested him. An hour later he was set free because of a new program that’s supposed to help out their over crowded jails. You could tell the LEO didn’t like it but said the city voted it in. I would hate to a be a WASP in either city and will remain in the heartland.

              • I live about an hour & 1/2 from Seattle a 37 minute drive & a boat ride.
                You must understand washington state is perceived as Seattle. It would be like Texas being judged by Dallas county……..
                Outside of the blue zones we are generally pretty good people.
                Much better than what I see when I return home to visit Texas nowadays.
                Also it is very easy to get a concealed carry permit here a few $$ and sign on the line.
                No BS like I had to go thru in Texas to get one. Crime is much lower than in Texas and so are my taxes. And yes I own a business I can assure the taxes are much lower.


              • Judging WA by seatle is like Judging Kansas by Kanasas city. You leave Seatle and WA is a RED conservative state. This time around we are going to get rid of The govener. Adn in Portland it was CCW floks that hunted the active shooter not the police… And in OR they can have supressser’s… legaly…..

            • Man on the inside, you’re right on target. let me also add that all of these rappers and hip-hop artists are raised up to God-like status when they’re all nothing but rich thugs with criminal records. Young black people of today look up to them as heroes and the results of that influence on them is out there for everyone to see. That will be their downfall. braveheart

            • Moral decay of society? Can we take a stand here?

              I’d love to see the elimination of the ads on this site that feature young ladies with their breasts nearly falling out of their plunging necklines.

              Case in point, the current ad for “Google Banned This Video”. The girl in the orange dress is dang close to showing her nipple; I dare say it’s NO accident!

              • Yes, those ads with the skeezers PLUS those adult game ads are bad!

          • Yep! and the law has got it to where, in most places, and adult cannot protect themselves. Because the under-age juvenile punks, know they are covered by the child?..under 18 laws, and if you even talk theatening to them, here come the police, and there you go, to the county jail, waiting for bail. Not to mention, the gun laws, that leave most unprotected. This world is F’d, the governments have Fubar’d everything. Arizona, and bring back the wild west, cause that’s what it’s coming to..

            • RockBottom, I know what the law says, but my point is that people need to start disregarding those laws if they want to get out of these life-or-death situations alive. Following those laws has a price tag, which all too often is some good person’s life. I carry certain self-defense items in my truck with me everywhere I go and I don’t give a damn about any restrictions on self-defense. in my mind, tampering with self-defense is the same as tampering with human life itself. I will engage in an act of self-defense if I’m attacked, period, and I don’t care what anyone’s policy says about it. Anyone who targets me over self-defense can expect resistance from me. nobody hurts me without paying some kind of price for it. braveheart

          • Agreed DK with everything you said. I don’t feel shocked by all this going on. People always comment, “we shouldn’t have these terrible incidents going on as we are civilized”. “Civilized” is an elusive word and draws many definitions from many people. Just because some folks are high minded and comfortable doesn’t mean they’re civilized. When their world starts to crack, so will the thin veneer mask of “civilized”. Remember, “the devil goes about like a roaring lion seeking who he may devour”. Let the word of God ride in your heart, let your Colt ride on your hip.

            • BTW, I’m not Pinnocioho. I’m a real boy and I proved it by checking the box before submitting my comment (twice now).

              • It is the result of the breakdown of the American family. Morals and ethics are no longer passed down form parent’s to children. The liberals in government and the education system have taken to destroying the parents rights to raise their children as they see fit.

                Until we have limited government once again, stop the flow of illegal aliens who have no intent to become Americans other than in name only and re-establish Christian doctrine back as our leading light we will never be the same.

                Oh yeah, I forgot there is one other thing: Ban soccer, I hate it! 🙂


                • Obama’s Teachable Moments: A Personal Tale

                  “Life feels different under this administration. At times it’s hard to put my finger on other than sensing something sinister afoot. And I realize how much I’ve taken my freedom, and my country, for granted.

                  In addition to a general sense of unease, I feel hyper aware of many concrete changes. I feel the invasion of the thought police. I’m self conscious of emails and phone conversations. I wonder how my health care will change. I wonder how an increasingly lawless society will continue to deteriorate.

                  I wonder if we will be left without the ability to defend ourselves and our families. I wonder about how far this will go and if we will ever be able to reclaim that which makes our nation so unique, so free, and so great. I wonder, in disbelief, if this is taste of tyrannical rule.”

                  “I feel us sliding down a slope into darkness as the left is increasingly brazen — targeting American citizens while bolstering enemies who want to destroy us.

                  All the while, the government continues to amass personal data on law-abiding citizens as Obama’s list of lies grows ever-longer. Anyone paying attention with a stomach for the truth knows that it is often the opposite of what Obama says.”

                  American Thinker dot com

                  • Yeah, and let’s not forget, all the spying polices, the hiding behind “national security”, the expansion of govt benefits, the lying and half truths, the catering to Wall Street, these are all just continuations of sh*t that started under Bush. Am I the only one who remebers the drunk fest of spending and expansion that went on during Bush’s first term when the GOP had control of everything? Bush doubled the national debt just like Obama is doing, and just like with Obama, all the numbers they spew out for deficits, GDP, unemployment, and everything esle, they’re completely phony.

                • Trying Again to see if my post reply gets posted.

          • Durango Kid,

            Or move to Wyoming. No concealed weapons permit required as long as you are a resident over 21, not a convicted felon, not judged insane or alcoholic/drug addicted, etc.

            There are just a few places you can’t carry — jails, police stations, some courtrooms, schools, etc. They tried to pass a law allowing cc in schools last session, but it failed this time — maybe next year.

            As for courthouses, here in Big Horn County, there is a sign saying no weapons on the 2nd floor. The District Court is on the second floor. Weapons are allowed on the first floor where the Assessor, Clerk, and Treasurer reside, and on the 3rd floor where family court is, and in the basement where the Circuit Court and Small Claims Court are, as well as the County Attorney’s Office.

            • Wyoming is a fool’s paradise because it sits on top of one of the largest Super Volcanos in the world; that is increasing active.

              The earth is clearly moving into a much more active phase. Wyoming is not a good place to be. Unfortunately, that is a no brainer if you think about it for two minutes during a commercial break for DWTS. Take the time. Open carry doesn’t do much good during a mega event.

              Just saying: “Get out of Wyoming”. 🙂

              • Degree in Geology and live in Wyo. Yup likely in the next 150,000 years or so might be a problem. Should have a few hundred years of warning. If it’s fast might be only 10-20. Not going to worry about it. The BS explosion on the East Coast is a much bigger problem

                • Wyoming has some of the best, most salt of the earth people in the world. If anyone were to spend some time there they would not want to leave. Places like Sheridan, Pinedale, and Cody. Hell I would even pick Lusk over most places in this country. The only two places I didn’t really care for was Gillette and Rock Springs.
                  When that Super volcano goes off, it is a game changer for humanity. Will make a currency collapse look like a mild recession by comparison. When people read about what they think will happen to the entire globe after an eruption of that magnitude they will realize that Arizona might be a “fools paradise” as well. Right DK?

                  • To M

                    I worry about Yellowstone, too. But where in the US would it be safe if that volcano goes off? Every place in the country has its own hazards — hurricanes in the South, tornadoes in the Midwest, earthquakes in CA, a volcano in the Canary Islands to cause a massive tsunami in the Northeast. Then there are nuclear reactors in most parts of the country, viruses, nucrear targets, too many people who could form mobs.

                    In Big Horn County, we are far from any nuclear targets or reactors, far from population centers, and the wind patters protect us from nuclear explosions in the West. Population centers subject people to several potential disasters — large mobs of hungry people, disease outbreaks, targets for enemy bombs, and there is less chance that the army would bother to come and try to disarm us as there are too few of us to do any damage.

                  • @ M and Daisy K. Watch the Adak area in Alaska, whenever there is higher activity here, Yellewstone reacts. These two places are likely connected under the crust. IF Yellowstone goes the only place in the 48 states that would be survivable would be a small little setion of soothern oregon and the southeastern portion of the US anyway. Wyoming is one the most free places in the entire country. The anti-gunners dare not to F with people there. The washington style of political correctness is not poisonous in Wyoming. Montana, Idaho are also part of the last free areas in the country. Yellowstone goes, about 75% of the country goes with it. Again, watch Adak, Alaska for extreme earthquake activity, that would signal possible bad trouble for Yellowstone.

        • This goes a lot further than the gun argument. And besides, a gun doesn’t fix all problems, just like a hammer isn’t the tool for all jobs. Although it is hard to argue with the effectiveness of a gun in alleviating some of the symptoms of the current state of decay.

          And DK is right. The problem is in other places too. Swarming-type attacks were the exception just a few short years ago and now there are places where I wouldn’t want to be after the sun goes down, and a few where I don’t event want to drive through as fast as possible wi my windows rolled up and the doors locked in broad daylight. And that is in Ottawa, Canada.

          Not even Vancouver or Montreal or Toronto.

          Over here, self defence with a firearm is one of these things that is effectively restricted only to the cops. For a mere mortal to prove self-defence instead of a homicide takes a minor miracle. To do so with a gun, especially one of those classified as Restricted such as a handgun (that isn’t .25 ACP or .32 and had a barrel length greater than 4.05 inches – otherwise it’s prohibited) or an AR-family rifle, that practically requires The Almighty to come down for the heavens and announce it was a righteous shoot. Otherwise, the would-be victim becomes the guilty party and is carted off to jail with the heaviest sentences possible. In the meantime some scumbag gangbanger who gets caught committing a crime with a gun gets a slap on the wrist for pleading guilty to an armed offence and weapon dangerous so the gun charges get dropped and he’s right back out on the street almost instantly.

          I certainly wish concealed carry was a widely available lawful option up here. However, I believe it was in 76 when politicians with armed bodyguards decided the average Canadian didn’t need guns for self-defence and it no linger was a valid reason for a private citizen to own a gun except on a case by case basis.

          And get this. The vast majority of Canadian cops isn’t even allowed to take their service pistols home and are required to store them at the police station. And by that same token, off-duty carry is a minuscule portion of these above officers. However, any criminal judge or prosecutor can just ask and he can wind up with a police-issued gun and a carry permit without even having to get his firearms license, while us little people have to jump through all the hoops and keep our pistols either locked up or in use at the range.

          • Agree totally: I think it is being caused by two things: warfare and welfare. These two factors are leading to the failure of the North American prosperity model of society. While immigration is at record levels, we are not seeing the economic boost from that. Instead, many migrants are ending up on public assistance of one form or another. While they rot there, they grow contemptuous of the society around them; they loath Canada, its people and culture (and who wouldn’t if you had no ability to connect to the place?).

            This is unsustainable and is why we are seeing an exponential increase in degenerate and violent behaviour. Human beings need to feel connection, to have hope that things will get better, and to feel that their contribution matters. They also need to work and to do things: the old saying ‘devil makes use of idle hands’ still stands true.

            Many of these people come from very conservative societies and so go completely mental in the ‘free’ West. In human history, there has never been an experiment like this: the mass movement of people from poor and conservative societies to freer places that are also experiencing significant economic decline brought on by debt. Well, there was Rome and we know how that ended…

            • the acceptance of abortion as a viable alternative to taking responsibility for your actions is also to blame.

              kids in more rural,conservative schools when faced with assemblies that are supposed to highten their awareness of drug use/rape/societal woes, laugh and hoot.
              My daughters started coming home in tears when having to sit through this. I have to repeatedly have the talk with them, that it’s NOT Them that something is wrong with, it’s the OTHERS who so callously disregard or delight in other’s pain.

              We are raising a society devoid of empathy.

              • Why would I have empathy for people who receive monies taken from me to support their worthless lives? It is NOT my problem to support hoards of bastard ghetto children, dat bes da baby momma and da baby daddy problem.

            • While warfare and welfare are certainly big contributors, IMO the biggest problem we have is crony capitalism, which has crerated a symbiotic relationship between Congress, our govt agencies and big business and big banks. What’s happening to our young people is being caused by waht they see as a hopeless future, and they would be right in their foresight. The govt, in cahoots with big businesss, has sold us down the river to the highest bidder. It’s called tapeworm economics and everyone should look that term up, because both the left and right are party to it.

          • A hammer is not tool for all jobs,now you tell me!Only kidding,hell,BTO/April Wine/Rush,despite being kicked out of Canada permently you folks aint all bad!

            • In my house Rush is not to be spoken of. They come on the radio, we change the station. My wife used to work in a fish hatchery and when they were playing country music the fish would swim in nice circles but if they heard Rush, they would scatter and swim every which way.

              Goes to tell ya. Even nearly brainless fish hate that band.

        • Agreed, nothing a good 9MM Browning cannot take care of. That’s why I don’t stop for anything except to P in Illinois, My CCW is good most anywhere else I go.

          • I don’t stop at all in Sillynoise. Use I-70, gas up in Indiana and never stop ’til I’m in Iowa.

          • I can’t stand the Browning HP. Granted the ones I’ve worked with were our standard-issue ones, which are old WWII stock, made under license by Inglis and unless we get the new-build aftermarket mags, good luck cycling more than 1 or 2 rounds at a time.

            Not to mention my pistol literally falling apart during a range qualification, the takedown pin falling right out when changing mags and the slide flying off when I hit the release.

            So yeah maybe I got some bad experiences with that pistol and that’s why I wouldn’t be caught dead spending money on one.

            • I have had a early 60’s Belgium version for 20 years. Extremely well made. It consumes all brands of ammo without jamming. Never any issues. Knock on wood.

              • There’s a major difference. Yours is the real deal, the ones the Canadian Armed Forces use were made under license by Inglis (yes the appliances company) way back during WW2.

            • Been using HPs for 30yrs with no problems.

            • I own Browning HPs and used to own Beretta 92Fs. The HPs outshot the 92Fs in speed and accuracy. I got rid of the 92Fs.

            • None of mine were made in Canada, The one I shoot the most has broken cross and eagle on it. Uncle Adolf must have had it. No problems.

              • And just so we are clear, I’m not knocking your choice of gun. I personally don’t like the Browning HP. Perhaps if I handled a good one instead of the pieces of crap I’m used to I might change my mind but I’m already pretty biased against them.

                Mind you my favourite 9mm to date is the Sig P225 (with almost a half inch of aftermarket barrel sticking out the slide so it is legal here in Canada where pistol barrels less than 105mm/4.05″ in length are prohibited) with night sights. I like the fit and weight in the hand, the Sig quality, action and controls and it shoots well. I’ve even been called a effing moron by some Glock fanboy because I prefer that older, discontinued model over his then-brand-new Gen 3 Glock 17 (nope, I don’t much like Glocks either, they just don’t feel right in my hands and I don’t like the action or the feel of the trigger and it’s integrated safety – and while they are very capable pistols with a proven track record, they’re just not for me)

      2. I have learned that i can only control what is in my general vicinity after that its all up to GOD. but what i think doesnt matter as long as the wild people keep suing everybody for infractions that existed before i was born. we now have people that are god-less who do not like christmas, or anything else that has anything to do with moral ethics or self control. i am glad my parents instilled in me a sense of right and wrong for that i am truly happy. But if these so-called moral self judgement people show up on my doorstep trying to take what i sweated for, earned, of saved. i am in no way obligated to give in to their wants or commands!!! they will be treated as enemy combatants or terrorist, their choice. i will be only under the law of the constitution to whip em in to shape or is that just plain whip em? other than that if you willing to work for what you want or need, we might be able to come to an agreement. but if not i will have no other obligation than to make you leave the premises standing up or laying down!!! your choice wildman out

        • Wildman: You invoke God, but in the next breath you say you would do violence to those who want your things. What about Matthew 5:40 and Luke 6:29-30? Are you one of those folks who’s a Christian only when it’s convenient? I’ve noticed that a lot of people here seem to cherry pick the bible verses that support their thoughts, words, and deeds, and ignore the rest. You may indeed be a true believer, but your words say otherwise.

          • What I don’t understand is people who think to be a Christian means to be a wuss….take everything Christ said and make it into some limp wristed sissy doctrine that wont last five seconds in the real world…Jesus was a mans man not a sissy…taking his teachings out of context and making anyone who believes/follows them into some kind of “religious retard “floating around about three feet of the ground whilst allowing himself and his family to be butchered,ripped off and destroyed isn’t even logical…sorry if you want to believe that the creator of the universe taught men to be wussies and to allow themselves and theirs to be butchered then by all means have at it but this ole boy wont be going past the point of maybe showing your stupid backside a bit of undeserved mercy MAYBE…then shooting your worthless carcass if you persist…sorry but I don’t see Jesus as a sissy and I wont be judged by and constrained by others who have some crazy religious/other ideas about it to cause myself or my own to suffer injury or loss…if you want to believe that’s what a Christian is then have at it but don’t expect me or others to fall down for that crap…strong and gentle do exist together in the same people…our founders and countless others since them were strong and gentle as they needed to be and carved a nation out of nothing…sissies cant do that nor can they keep that as we are witnessing in this generation and time…end of rant!

      3. What I can’t believe is the rapid decay of society in the past 10 years, past 5 years. You look at these sick music videos out and how people are moving away from just basic decency. Not censorship prude type of decency either. Just what is right and wrong. People are so political correct poisoned that they can’t even say what they really think anymore without being attacked and even having one’s First Amendment rights violated under the premise that someone is preaching a threat, hate and inciting a riot or something, or just disturbing the peace. Just look at how kids can’t even talk about the @nD Amendment because of absolute zero policy ant-firearms in schools.

        The decay of the society is going hand and hand in with the decay of the economy. There is just no fire left in 90-99% of the people anymore to strive for better. It reminds me of the doldrums towards the equator in which the wind just dies off and the sails of the ship go down and no one mores other than with the currect of the ocean. This is what is happening right now, people are drifting with the currect of BO and the welfare state as the ONLY means of a society. It is a sad state of affairs.

        People right now have no ambition. Sure they get into the medical fields, not usually to help people but to make money. You make good money in legal dope being prescribed and the crazy health care costs that will go up much, much more with BO care. It is a frozen society right now, like an engine sputtering along until it finally kills up some hill. That hill is the national debt that is exploding e to the X.

        It is unbelivable how anyone can say times are better and looking up, the math doesn’t show this, and the people no way show this.

        • Good evening, BI. I have to echo your sentiments. I wasn’t on here much over the weekend due to a family issue, but now I’m back in full form. Like I said in my first post on here, the people that have brought us as a nation and as a people to this point need to be held accountable and punished accordingly. If I ever encounter any of them, it will be a quick bullet to the head; just get it over with for they’ve earned it. It’s going to be so horrific what is coming to this land, but I just don’t see any other way. braveheart

        • BI: Free Trade is the root of the economic problems in America, which exacerbate the social problems which were real enough before.

          60,000 factories have been shipped offshore in the past 12 years. 70 million jobs have been lost. Now O’Bummer Care is creating part-time jobs where some full time jobs existed before, exchanging employment for food stamps.

          The evisceration of the American economy has been deliberate and orchestrated by the NWO to destroy American freedoms, eradicate civil liberties, and shred the US Constitution.

          DC should be burning with Congress in session. Just saying. Kill the FED. Death to the New World Order. 🙂

          • @ durango kidd. Those “in control” are fools because when they cut the ropes holding everything up, they fall with it to the jagged rocks below. It reminds me of a symbol of a snake eating itself from the tail up until there is a breaking point. I think that self digestion of the society is getting so much closer to that end.

            • BI and DK, good morning. If DC is ever attacked with a nuke, I won’t shed any tears. TPTB deserve what’s coming to them. braveheart

          • 100% agreement DK
            Free trade has killed more jobs than anything, and has ruined our industrial manufacturing capability.

          • Everything and Every evil wrong agenda All you guys are posting about is even More Proof solid, that what was written in their protocals of the elders of zion, were their actual plans for destroying white gentile nations.

            Although written over 100 yrs ago, every facet of every agenda written of has come to be factual truth. The Only other previously written material that has beem so accurate and that has occured as written to is the Bible!

            Yet due to a lifetime of massive propaganda, and falsehoods about the main perps related to the protocals of zion, instead of folks wakeing up to it all so changes for the better can happen. All we see today is a cross between folks who reject this truth without even exploring or researching it at all before rejection of it.

            And that other group of folks who not only reject its validity, but go so far as to almost Worship and defend the very perps due to being so brainwashed by falsehoods taught by phony preachers. So far neither group is willing to even attempt to see the truths and facts in such issues. Together they make up a Vast Majority of the american citizenery. No good changes shall ever happen as long as they remain asleep at the wheel.

            I think we are witnessing that prediction in the bible that says a time shall arrive when the Lord will send them a delsuion, and place it into their stuborn minds to believe said delusions. There is no other logical or rational reasons that so many folks can remain so stubornly opposed to such Valid factual truths, especially with todays vast array of legit sources one can so eaisly find these factual truths presented at online, and in many books and larger sized libraries.

            As long as a vast majority refuse to admit that these things are by design, and admit as to who designed and Does it, and act as one large group with those prior mentioned Worshippers and defenders of the Perps, nothing can change. It Can and Will get far worse though, thanks to foolsih stuborn folks like those.

        • “People right now have no ambition”.

          That statement sure threaded the needle. And, at the same time this trend is at its all-time highest in American society, what are our evil ruling elites all promoting>

          Legalizing marijuana. Unbelievable. Look, potheads – I was forced to be around dope smoking slabs of useless human manure during my time in the military – and, I’m here to tell you – that I’ve never been around a bigger pack of apathetic, unmotivated, undisciplined, worthless and lazy human turds in my entire life. Smoking that weed kills your motivation to do anything except smoke more weed and scarf down junk food.

          So, if our evil ruling elites are pushing this poison – then, anyone with a brain bigger than a golf ball should be able to conclude that our evil elites want Americans to be apathetic and dumbed down and dependent on the government for whatever crumbs they decide to toss in our direction, right?

          Is that a recipe for a strong nation? Is that a formula that will light a fire in our asses and get us motivated, focused and energetic enough to fight a second American Revolution and clean those criminal ruling elites the hell out of Washington D.C. and restore our Republic?

          Not in my book, it isn’t. I’ve seen what dope smoking does to people, and its a perfect narcotic for controlling a nation of stoned sheeples.

          • Tucker, you’re right on target. I’ve been forced to work with the same type of scum you refer to. Those who say that marijuana does not harm people are living in the biggest fantasy world. when the balloon finally goes up, the dopeheads and drunks will be the most dangerous people around. the only effective way to deal with them will be to kill them. there won’t be any other way in you want to survive any encounter with them. braveheart

            • Brave,though normally agree with you really have to say that is one of the dumber posts I have read(@ no,will not thumb down it)as I believe in freedom of speech.I know plenty of folks who smoke pot and are fine people,I do not but did in my youth,just grew out of it I guess.The war on drugs is much more hareful then the drugs,end the drug/cop/prison/court cartels and the war on our freedoms.You want to kill yourself with drugs/food/extreme sports is none of my business.As long as you do not drive while wasted nobodies business but your own what you put in your body.

              • That’s the problem. They won’t stay home. And they won’t leave other people alone. The worst thing they do is try to hook young people on drugs.

              • Warchild, I normally enjoy your posts, but on this one, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. if they’re ONLY HARMING THEMSELVES, that’s one thing and would be their own affair. But when they starting hurting other people; i.e. committing any kind of crime to get the money to buy it, driving under the influence, etc., THAT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. Sorry, but I’ve seen nothing but bad things just like Tucker has concerning such people. Never seen anything positive about drug use. I will agree with you that the war on drugs has been a total waste. best wishes. braveheart

                • Archiv and Brave,any who purposefully try to drag in others to their insanity no matter what the product or legislation have no problem with em “going away”.That said,seems to me if all drugs legalized would end a lot of nonsense in our society as even illegal they have despite inflation/drug war dropped in price and increased in potency,just want addicts to get their fix without robbing mom at both a criminal and taxpayer level!By the same token would not support SS for those addicted to legal(booze) or illegal drugs ect.I ,and just me personally,would end war on drugs and those that want help,well…help em out to quit and those that do not,well…see ya in the next life.

            • Tucker: What you wrote of goes right in lock step with their racial plans. As so thourouhly outlined in a book published in, 1912.

              That 1912 book Title is “The Racial Plan for White America”. The book writer is a self admited Communist Leader and Head kommie of the kommie party of England when his book was published. His name was Israel Cohen.

              A self admited Kommie leader, jew zionist, talmudic judiac. His book outlines their jewish kommie plans to Raise up Blacks to very high social levels, and make blacks very wealthy thru hollywood movies, Sports, and universities. While simultaneously tearing Down every facet of Whites untill blacks are elevated upwards, and whites are turned into 3rd worlders at best.

              Israel Cohens goals were to become reality after they created methods to install many jew kommie run orgs like SPLC-ADL ET AL, and also to get as many zionist and bolshevik kommie jewish folks elected and/or appointed to high fed positions throughout fed govnt and its related agencies. Which has become reality in our times.

              Isreal Cohen also wrote that he and his kommie jewish pals planned to get fed laws made to coincide with fed civil rights agendas, that promote minoritiy african blacks, and hispanic browns, while at the same time are laws and agendas that are devestating to White folks. That also Has occured in our times.

              Israel Cohens final plans and agenda was to change how whites think, thru promotions of white guilt by constant crys of unfairness for blacks due to slavery. To create a non stop harping against all Whites to induce guilt feelings, and cause white women to see black men as the New wealthy men of socital Prestige, so that white women will no longer feel repulsed at the idea of haveing “beige/Tan” babies with black males.

              Israel Cohen even mentioned in his racial plan for america book, that an ultimate goal of his and his jewish kommie and zionist pals was to get enough fellow jewish folks into high fed offices and the us senate etc, that they can pass new laws to FORBID all whites from Marrying another white. Hes goal was fed laws that Forced white women and men to only marry and only have a baby with either african blacks or hispanic browns.

              All of their sinister plans and agendas were by design to allow his talmudic jewish and kommie pals to one day see a Total End of every single white person as a race!

              They knew white americans are too strong and well armed to do such by force of arms against white americans. So instead Israel Cohen and pals invented sinister Racial anti-white plans to slowly destroy white folks in every way and by every possible method they could devise.

              That was back in 1912…Today has seen 101-yrs pass by since Israel Cohens evil sinister antiwhite racial agendas and plans have been put into operation.

              And today no sane person of Any racial background can possibly deny that Israel Cohens sinsiter jewish talmudic zionist kommie agendas have been alomst fullfilled completely. In fact, the Only part of their planned agendas that has not as yet been fullfilled is the actual final end of the White Race of peoples. Although in just the last 100 yrs, during the 20th century alone, whites have gone from being close to a 1/3rd of the world, to less than 8% today!

              Unless folks wake up, especially white folks, the Israel Cohen jewish talmudic kommie agenda plans will continue untill soon their ultimate goal of ZERO Whites left anywheres becomes reality for certain.

              Between unwise uneeded wars that pit whites vs whites, biracial babies, and ever worsening laws that devestate whites in Jobs, Lands, money, RIGHTS, and any I may have missed here, we are seeing that Israel Cohen kommie agenda occureing daily. Yet the Vast majority of white folks refuse to accept the facts and truths of this issue, and allow it to creep further daily while refuseing to stop it. They never will stop it unless they First learn and accept what and Who the true enemys are.

              Their children and grandchildren are going to Curse those folks badly for that rejection of truth. I already do!

          • You can certainly tell who among the office staff is smoking pot after work. Might as well be working with closet alcoholics. 40- and 50-year old adults, still thinking like college kids. They have difficulties with writing technical reports, interpersonal skills disappear, they zone out in meetings, fixate on trivia, logic skills are below par, can’t meet a deadline, use personal time to excess, and think they are the smartest people in the building.

            And, like the alcoholics, make the most blatent mistakes in their work and will not take responsibility for it.

            I’ll take two clean high-school graduates over any three pothead college kids any day of the week, and get good results with them, too.

            • Listen, guys, that there sure is some backwood, good ole boy thinking thinking and generalizations of pot heads as stupid people….
              I am probably more like you and share many of the same values as you and if you knew me you probably would not like to admit that we are so alike.
              These people you speak of, maybe they are already stupid, uneducated, ignorant people before they fired one up.

              I mostly agree with all things on this site… but come on, have you forgot about all the other brain cell frying substances that might actually be the problem….
              oh ya, then theres just plain stupid

              POT is NOT the problem…IT IS THE SOLUTION if you would do a little open-minded research there is many benefits to this plant that has been with us thru our whole evolution….

              • You are dead wrong, Mr. Not a Canadian Sheep.

                Here is the proof that backs up my personal observations and life experiences, when I was forced to spend time around these pot smoking dunderheads.


                “Cannabis Use Steals 8 IQ Points from the Teenage Mind
                Published by News Team on August 28, 2012

                Scientists have found that regular use of cannabis during adolescence reduces IQ by an average of 8 points. Even more strikingly, this loss cannot be undone by kicking the habit later in life.

                The guinea pigs in the experiment were born in 1972/73 and were quizzed about their cannabis usage at the ages of 18, 21, 26, 32 and 38.

                Professor Terrie Moffitt said “persistent users, who started as teenagers, suffered a drop of eight IQ points at the age of 38, compared to when they were 13”.

                That 8 point drop would mean that for an individual of average intelligence (an IQ of 100 in Great Britain), instead of 50% of the population being more intelligent than them the figure would be 71%.”

                Let me restate the key point that was made in this excerpt: “this loss cannot be undone by kicking the habit later in life.”

                Oh, and I think it is worth mentioning that the current crop of incompetent, talentless, corrupt, sexually depraved and perverted vermin who have comprised the bulk of the political class in Washington D.C. over the last 40 odd years – and who’ve managed to help destroy this nation and get our asses into debt to the tune of over $70 trillion dollars as a direct consequence of their stupidity, lack of financial restraint, and both their reckless irresponsibility and deliberately criminal mismanagement of our nation’s resources – every one of these slabs of human scum were the by products of the pot-smoking, experimental recreational drug using, 1960s generation of degenerate losers.

                Meanwhile, guys like you continue to refuse to accept the scientific and medically proven evidence that proves that smoking dope is harmful and instead try to transfer the blame for the steadily increasing levels of stupidity and the reduction in the average American IQ to things like fluoride.

                A blame shifting maneuver that, conveniently, gives you the excuse you need to continue smoking pot.

                Which, as I said earlier – is precisely what our evil and tyrannical government wants all of us to do in order to keep us stupid and easier to snooker and control.

            • Listen, guys, that there sure is some backwood, good ole boy thinking thinking and generalizations of pot heads as stupid people….
              I am probably more like you and share many of the same values as you and if you knew me you probably would not like to admit that we are so alike.
              These people you speak of, maybe they are already stupid, uneducated, ignorant people before they fired one up.

              I mostly agree with all things on this site… but come on, have you forgot about all the other brain cell frying substances that might actually be the problem….
              oh ya, then theres just plain stupid

              POT is NOT the problem…IT IS THE SOLUTION if you would do a little open-minded research there is many benefits to this plant that has been with us thru our whole evolution….

              • Just remember if you agree that it is okay for folks to ruin their lives as long as they never harm nor affect you directly, as libertarian Licence disguised as Liberty promotes. Then you cannot at the same time ever expect to fix the many wrongs we have let alone expect to fight any winning revolution or defned ourselves properly against one, if 1/2 of the very people we Need to assist us are too stoned or their lives are too messed up to even care how badly america is being destroyed.

                Sometimes its a good thing to promote good morals and ethics. There is a good valid reason that Christ and every apostle taught and wrote that christians were supposed to Learn Discernment between right and wrongs, and Then to Also reprove and Rebuke such wrongs. That covers more ground than just physical harms or murders etc.

                Only a total fool or blind person cannot see or admit that both america and canada had far better societies of peoples prior to about 1960’s era.

                Dope in all its forms or types has played a huge massive role in the problems devestating our nations today.

                It may sound swell to promote an anything goes Except physical harm world or nation. But in reality no such nation ever existed and none ever will unless its like america today only Far Worse yet.

                The real issue behind such promotions for everybody can do whatever they desire as long as none do physical harm to another, is from a selfish desire similar to “I got Mine so screw all oters who do not”…It may sound swell in some book or political promotions. But the end results will be chaos and anarchy at best.

                Look how screwed up america is today where the top 1% to 10% have most all of the money etc. If you add anything goes to that, nobody will be singing “I got mine screw others who do not”. Because everything will so quickly get so out of hand, you Will see Physical harm occure. And nobody will then be able to halt it. Especially those Few who can state I got mine screw others as thats who will be the main targets.

                I think that ideal alone is the number one main reason that after 45+ yrs so far Libertarians political agenda has never been widly embraced by more than 1% to 1.5% of american voters, and besides a small few lower positions no libertarians have been elected to many if any high offices nationwide. Most folks if honest will agree that good morals and ethics are needed. The founding fathers thought so and said so too.

                The argument of whos to determine morals etc is phony becuase somebody or something must make decisions. A major portion of americans used to rely upon the holy bible for the main guidlines to such moral behaviours. Back when america was still great and good as a whole.

                Giveing people free Licence and calling it liberty or freedoms or any other terms wont make it better. It will worsen things due to human nature in all humans.

        • It distills down to materialism, which the antithesis of spiritualism. We’re the most materialistic society on Earth, which means we’re also the least spiritual. That’s not the same thing as religious. I know plenty of people who call themselves Christians, who go to church, who can quote bible quotes, and they’re just as devoid of real spiritualism as anyone else. You look at the young people and their behavior, well how would anyone expect them to behave when their country’s leaders, and all their role models, are complete despots, and high crimes are allowed to be committed without consequence all over our economy. Banks stealing trillions, no one goes to jail. Drug companies lying and killing thousands, no one goes to jail. The Constitution being violated over and over, no one goes to jail. And do you think they haven’t figured out that the Presidency and Congress are bought and paid for by very powerful puppet masters who work behind the scenes? As a civilization we are done for, and we did it to ourselves by letting it happen so long as we thought we could get part of the loot.

      4. If you think morality can’t be taught, this is what happens when you don’t teach it.

        • Amen, amen, AMEN.!!!

        • i read a story on one of the blogs the other day that is one of the worst ,it seems here in Fl some lady had sex with an underage girl(15YO) and now the gay and lesbian org. are protesting for her release because the sex was consetual (even though a under age child canot consent to sex)and the story gets worse ,they want to remove from the medical text that pedophilia is a sickness ,that these people arent sick that they just love young children ,now you might accuse me of gay and lesbian bashing ,but i want you to show me one moral person hell just anyone off the street that thinks having sex with children should be legal ,there is a whole org. devoted to trying to make it legal ,and the guy that wrote the article said ,”as sick as this country is in 20 years petophilia will probally be the norm” maybe we can even allow them to marry 5 year olds ,hell let them serve in the millatary

          • Lower 40, I totally agree with you. the members of that “alternative lifestyle” as they like to call it, are sick and evil. there is nothing good about them. Red thumb me, I don’t care. pedophilia is only one of many things that will bring God’s judgment on this land. braveheart

            • I have a solution for these sick bastards…..

              • wrong

                i also have a solution ,you place a small pc. of lead behind there ear

          • “now you might accuse me of gay and lesbian bashing ”

            in a lot of cases this is how they recruit – by molesting young children. telling them that if you enjoyed it, you must be gay – just embrace it.

            all you have to do is ask some, especially women, have histories of abuse in their past.

          • Lower40: You asked to be shown one moral person etc. I won’t call them Moral, but if you seek justification for younger aged sex with an adult? Simply check out the Many, Many talmud text verses that consider it okay and even a Virtue! For a jewish man to have sex with a gentile girl Up to te age of THREE yrs old. And also for a jewish man to have homo sex with gentile Boys Up to age NINE yrs old! Talmud also says jewish women can do sex with young gentile boys. Not sure if 3yr old gentile girls are ok for jewish women too? I will check on that.

            Acording to their talmud books and teachings such underage sex is a Virtue and is zero sin or crime and no jewish males should ever be charged nor convicted of such as any crimes. NO Joke! Thats written in many areas of their talmud which they consider the absolute highest Laws in the entre world and even entire universe.

            When one researches such talmudic judiac beliefs and practices etc, and then compares it to what we have seen develop with so many forms of UN- const laws passed, so many violations of the us const etc in recent times, it is easy to determine that a real agenda has been perpetrated upon americans to Replace our us const, with Their Talmud Judiac laws nationwide and at every place they can possibly switch things to talmudic judiac rule over the rst of us. That being the gentile 98+% of americans.

            The More talmud one reads and discovers, the More one sees this correlation occureing in every aspect of america today. Thats why you never see any wall street bankster types go to jail anymore. Talmud Forbids chargeing any jewish folks for violations of gentiles laws etc….Oh as one would expect, that male can have sex with gentile girls age 3yrs old and Younger, and boys age 9yrs old and Under, is ONLY Okay if its a Jewish man doing the sex. Talmud still forbids gentile males from doing that. Only their self chozens and master race membership is allowed to do such things! Goyim are forbidden!

            Today with so many jewish elected and appointed officials makeing and enforcing laws, plus a vast majority of both Lawyers and Judges being jewish, or a gentile married to a jewish person, its no wonder we keep seeing so many absurd ideas floated, promoted, and finally made into law and precedent that so devestatingly changes america for the worse faster than we can keep up with it all!

            Maybe soon when its bad enough more folks will awaken as to the True Real reasons such nation Wreckers have been officially Booted out form Every country, state, city, nation that has ever Hosted their Tribal Ilk. 109 Nations so far since 245 AD. Many has booted em out 3-4 even 5 times due to constant reinfiltrations. Similar to lice or cockroaches that refuse to stay gone!

      5. @ Mac. I have been thinking about all the key words that cause this 404 error and all the people that have spent their time typing in a message and forgot to save it and lost it. There is something wrong. I can’t believe that little sentence that eveybody tried to send was stopped. What the hell is going on? Is the government trying to prevent certain words from getting posted? Is this some sort of code or something that someone doesn’t want out there. Can you do anything about this, or is the site at the mercy of the government or some other jackass out there trying to cause you problems. I am now worried about anything I write down. Even some totally benign set of words could send the site back to the 404 error message.

        By the way what is that 404 error message. If there was a bad word out there that would hurt the site, then you would think it would go to moderation and then you would tell the person not to talk a certain way as it was hazardous to the site. What was so disturbing about that sentence that no one could get it through unless they wrote it backwards or used numbers to letters to show it? I think a lot of us want to know why the 404 error message and why could not someone get through to your personal contact page that NO ONE OTHER THAN YOU would see with certain words or sentences?

        • 404 is the error code that appears when your local computer was able to communicate to the net server, but the server was unable to find the requested paqe. Usually because of a bad character or two in the request, or more often because the page has been taken down by the proprietor of web site, without providing any redirection. It’s not particularly sinister.

        • B.I. on Mac’s site about 10 publications to download the ones about anything to do with weapons even the field manuals are censored. You can download but it says complete then pops up unsuccessful.I guess it is wrong for the masses to have the knowledge to defend themselves.
          Off topic but there was a m-1 flare last night after several m’s last week looks like the sun is about to start getting active.

          • That one sunspot is conveniently rotating around to face us square on,
            Wouldnt that be a hoot and a coincidence if it blasted off a big old X flare right at us!
            Crazy times we live in, crazy times.

            • Kula a second m-1,then a 4.6 a couple of hours ago

      6. The beauty of preparing for the inevitable is that our minds, bodies and especially our nervous systems already have been calloused. The only thing that might “shock” us would be the absence of an economic crisis.

        • You bring up a real good point there, to expand a little on that, cant remember who it was that said it but it was stated that being prepared begins in your mind,
          That all the preps and stuff in the world wont matter if you freak out or melt down.
          Proper mindset will be and is the single most important ingredient in our prepping tool box.

          • Your mind is your primary weapon.

      7. OK, I’ve got to get on a roll again. We all know what’s coming down the pipes and it’s going to be the biggest challenge any of us have ever faced in our whole lives. People are not what they used to be. When I was growing up back in the 60s, people for the most part had common sense and mutual respect for each other. Crime was very low and punishment by the justice system was more swift and certain. Most people worked and pulled their own weight. My, how times have changed. We’re now almost 180 degrees from what we used to be. There are a great many times now when I’m afraid to approach anyone for any reason. There’s so many sick, insane, cold-blooded people out here these days. You don’t know what the hell to expect from anyone anymore. This country is going to fall and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it. We’ve been going through collapse since the 2008 financial crisis and it’s still ongoing. we’re falling almost exactly like the Roman Empire did, only worse in some ways. I really dread what I’ll have to do whenever any animals come to my place to take what I have. Some nights I have nightmares about it. I try my best not to think about it. But I know that one day it will happen and I have to be prepared to do the right thing. Mentally and physically I believe I’m as prepared as I can be. I know it will be a life-changing event and I’ll never be the same again. But I also know it’s either me or them and I decided it’s NOT going to be me! TO HELL AND DAMNATION WITH ALL OF THE EVIL PEOPLE THAT HAVE BROUGHT MY COUNTRY TO THIS POINT! The people who have been working to destroy my country don’t even deserve any legal proceedings; just a quick bullet to the base of the skull and be done with it! God is going to pass judgment on this land and it won’t be nice. Nothing will ever be the same again. Those who survive what’s coming will never be the same again. braveheart

        • Dear Brave: Come see me if you need a Qt of Bullets. I’m not very religious but I do know right from wrong. Generally speaking I think the golden rule is a good idea, mostly I just wish to live quietly in peace. On the other hand I have no problem putting a bunch of this human garbage at fear of GOD, the Devil, and the Good people. IT’s about time they learn who are really the toughest SOB’s in the Valley. It’s not them

          • Paranoid, I appreciate your offer, but I’m very well-stocked on that item.

        • Braveheart, I’ve recently had to battle an asthma attack. I had to sleep in a recliner in my living room rather than lying down in bed. My chair faced the front door and I’d find myself waking up at odd hours to see if anybody was in the yard.

          Didn’t have that problem while I was upstairs in my bed.

          Sure enough, someone came into the yard, walked around back and made off with two bags of aluminum cans we had for the Church youth group. Here in Oregon they’re worth a nickle apiece.

          In the past I’ve had a kid’s bicycle stolen off the front porch and the neighbor had two bikes taken out of his garage. People are getting more desperate and less honest.

          Yesterday I scored a used (but still good) security door for the front of the house. This week I’m going to look into a set of 2″ X 2″ heavy wire screens for the lower floor windows. Before I’m done, I’ll be living as if I were in prison.

          Back in ’96 I got jumped by three young hispanic “youths” who proceeded to kick the sh!t out of me. It happened at a local park after a night baseball game and a couple of the players who heard me screaming like a little girl ran over with their baseball bats to chase off my new-found friends. In cleaning up the area afterward we found a small, serrated-edge knife — open! One of my attackers had spent an inordinate amount of time trying to get me to raise my head, apparently so he could cut my throat!

          So no, Dorothy, this isn’t Kansas anymore. I’m not exactly sure just where we are but it’s not hard to see where we’re going.

          • I have thought about hardening our house,
            Security doors etc, and then i remember, huh, what am i going to do with my sliding door? We have a 16′ wide sliding door that looks out over the central valley and south maui and a couple other islands. Think ill just keep the view and let go and let God on some of this stuff,
            Luckily we dont really have huge problems with theft YET.
            There are burglaries now and then but are isolated in our area.
            Got to just get me some crockodiles for my pond!

          • Oldfart, sorry to hear about your asthma problem and good luck in coping with that. Last night I had another home invasion attempt for the first time since May, but I stopped it cold. 2 other homes a block away from me were ransacked recently. yes, it’s getting worse out here and the day may come sooner than I think when I’ll have no other choice but to “ventilate” some POS. braveheart

      8. Its sad but true. We had a sort of homeless guy who would pick up cans around here for money, He didn’t bother anyone and he wouldn’t even except handouts. Some guy killed him with a brick for no apparent reason. Its because of the give me croud, the mothers not disciplining, no fathers and so many other issues that happen to falling empires.

        Its only getting worse, its a lot different from when I grew up. I was rasied diffrent and I hate to say It.. but its even affecting me. Seeing what goes on now it makes me not care as much for others, its just to hard to trust people. I can only hope that things work out in the end, hard times makes people appreciate life more. As bad as things may get deep down I think we need some adversity, just hope I live to see what comes of it.

      9. No an exaggeration at all. One can see it even in the small actions that happen all around us. No consideration for others, acting as if no one else exists or deserves to be respected.

        Look at the roads. Driving like total fucking maniacs and God help you if you don’t yield as they pull in front of you.

        This article is right on the money. We have been saturated with the ideas of diversion, consumption, egotism, power, greed, violence etc etc etc. For decades that has been the cultural drumbeat and we are now seeing the results. When the SHTF, it is going to be amped up by orders of magnitude.

        I have quit saving, stacking silver or gold. The object now is to make it through the period safely when people go totally nuts. To that end, I spend my “savings” on food, ammo, meds, communication, lighting, etc.

        You better be ready to kill or be killed when these monsters come out of the woodwork for real. There will be no reasoning with them. It will be you or them. Make sure it’s them.

      10. Yup it looks a bit grim doesnt it. I agree with the moral decline analysis but Ive been expecting it so nothing new there. I dont know what people expect is going to happen when you ask God to remove himself from a nation that was built on religous freedom to worship him as one sees fit.

        Did everyone expect the blessing was going to linger without the creator? There really is no hope beyond the hand of God at anytime, its just that we are now watching what has become of America without its moral compass.

        Does everyone think we can return to being the bastion of freedom and prosperity we were without guidance from above? We are screwed and nothing except repentance will change the direction this nation is headed.

        Hope and change , yes please, the sooner the better. I hope we change back to what we were before we fundamentaly changed and lost our hope.

      11. It’s shocking to see how far we have fallen… It will take a miracle and a lot of lead to turn this around.

        • This is what happens when the nation gets hyjacked and run by the synagouge of satans demons as Jesus warned us about in Rev 2:9. It is what happened to Russia 95 yrs ago when only 2% of the population swindled total control.

          Main difference from russia circa 1918 and america today is that the satanic synagouge mebership of demons has done it all backwards. In Russia they First begin a revolt to mass murder and exterminate the gentile Goyims.

          Todays in america it seems they have reversed that and plan to do the mass killings of gentile goyims After gaining total control and rapeing the nations moneys and resources. One thing the demons of satans synagouge Will not change from russia to today america is that they will again make good use of what were termed Peasants in Russia, and in the usa are called Minorities.

          It is imperative that everyone awaken to reality and truth of whats happened and whom has done it. Then awaken many more others if any chance to revive america is still possible. People no longer can retain PC correctness nor worry about whitey guilt or harm to others “Feelings” or “Emotions”. Anybody that has played a role or has enabled those who played a role in ruining america Must be made to answer and Pay for that.

          Like John Q Public always states it: Punish the Guilty, leave the innocent alone. Weather or not any certain groups has more or lesser percentages of the Guilty in that group should be no concern of ours.

          Nobody awake and honest can deny that if an end to all violent crimes was the Goal?…Then a massive majority of african blacks has to get booted out. Because all honest research as well as personal experience has confirmed beyond all doubt, that indeed blacks have caused a massively Disproportionate amount of violent crimes nationwide, and as FBI stats proves, its been an Ongoing affair year after year for 50 yrs now.

          So if presumably an end to all forms violent crimes were the main goal, nobody can worry that some, maybe Many blacks will cry foul when they see as high as 90+% of Their group of blacks being booted out or delt with more severally. It is not our fault so many of Their group refuses to assimilate and act civilized and obey proper laws etc right.

          Same goes for the synagouge of satan Christ warned us of. And that apostle John in chapter 8 vs 44 so aptly described as a further warning, also in Jesus Own words(red letter editions). It is NOT our fault if a vast majority of their group has made the wrong choices and must be made to pay. They knows this is true and it is the very reason they have induced white folks with PC and whitey Guilt non stop since 50yrs ago. It was designed to stop white folks from takeing back america due to emotional guilty feelings if we dare to decide to put a stop to the madness. Yet if anyone should feel Guilt? It is They not Us!

          And 500 red thumbs will not change truth and facts into fiction. Red thumbs just shows how sucessfull they have been at totally Dumbing you down and causeing within You a severe guilt and pc complex. The red thumb brigade will waken when its them being killed or harmed by the Very people or groups they so defend and enable.

          Red thumbers brigade will find themselves caught in the Middle of the Battle zones. They will first run for safty to the evil side and cry out how swell they defended and enabled the satanic culprits and their synagouge of satan.

          Once they get close enough to see that that evil side was a huge wrong choice, they will turn 180 degrees and Run for safty to Our side!…And we too shall begin shooting as did that other side when the red thumb enablers brigade went there first. There will be zero safty found playing the middle ground. Too bad it takes so long for some to wake up.

      12. Most of those crime listed were anti-White crimes. But that is only part of the story. It is only the “tip of the iceberg”.

        And, most people in this country could care less what is happening around them. Most people in this country think they are entitled to all they can eat, and all the entertainment they can stand.

        Really, all this began decades ago, and has even been directed in very subtle ways. Everything good and right that built not just America, but all of Western Civilization, has been subverted and usurped from within. This is not something “voting” will fix, because, the fix is in.

        All that’s left, is the inevitable crash.

        • No kidding. However to even suggest in the “enlightened” circles that White folks are being targeted is considered sacrilegious in this world of political correctness. In the Scripture of theses “modern” days, White people – especially able-bodied nominally Christian straight males – are the oppressors and the persecutors and therefore cannot be offended against or the victims of racial violence or intolerance in any way.

          What we are looking at isn’t just an economic collapse. It is a complete collapse of Western civilization. Excellence is now a sin as it rises above the much easier egalitarianism of mediocrity. Pride is now only limited to pro athletes, sexual deviancy and any skin colours other than white. History and truth are taboo lest it offends the politically protected. Same with belief systems, where accommodations must be made for all other religions at the expense of Christianity regardless of how offensive to Christians some of these are.

          Not to mention laws selectively applied to either punish with greater prejudice or unfairly benefit specific groups, where wealth and political protection determines to which degree one is subject to the rule of law.

          These are all hallmarks of a complete societal collapse as seen in every failing empire.

          • Canadian Vet ,
            It seems that that this is not just a US affliction by your posts , there are other stories from A guy down under in Austrailia experiencing the same things. May be there is a flaw in the human race that occurs when the population reaches a certain level causing society to crash. The empirical data of past civilizations , Rome , Greece , Egypt, ancient China, Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, have all reach a zenith of development then collapsed, a pattern develops . Maybe the human race has a built in kill switch? How many civilizations have gone before ? Our history only extends 5000 years into the past with records even though modern humans have existed for 1 million years.
            Could it be the more advanced a civilization the harder it’s fall into total chaos and self destruction leaving only a few survivors to rebuilt starting the cycle over again? How many times has this occurred before? Modern society has the capability to destroy everything never in history have we had the means of total annilation scorching the planet to a devoid of all life.
            This is what prompted J. Robert Oppenheimers remark at trinity site in 1945 when witnessing the first Atomic test to quote from the book of the Hindu’s ” I have become death destroyer of worlds”
            In that instant the Human race produced the seeds of its own destruction.

            The only glue that holds society and civilizations together is morality and a belief in God , we have been given a gift of the word and works , if we follow it and believe we may survive and prosper in spite of all the evil that surrounds us.
            It’s not all about preps and defense , it’s ultimately about Faith and living life in a just manor.

            The alternative is not pretty, we will all perish in violence, experience in our last moments the.knowedge we are all collectively dying knowing nothing will remain or survive, as our last thoughts when we see the bursting light of a thousand suns then eternal darkness and silence.

            Let’s hope our fate in different.




            Semper Fi 8541

            • Like I said in another reply, I think it all comes down to materialsm, which leads to despotism. Materialism is the opposite of spiritualism. You cannot have both, and the closer you get to one, the farther you get from the other.

              • It all comes down to exactly what Jesus Christ said 2000 yrs ago. “You are Of Your father the Devil(satan) and his Lusts You Will Do!” satans main Lusts are Lie, Steal,Murder and satan is the inventor of it all thats evil.

                Now all one must do is figure out from Christ’s and the other Apostle writers exactly WHO was he speaking of when those statements were made 2000 yrs ago?

                THEN one must Realize that regardless what you were taught or told to believe or think regarding those children of satan,the vast 99+% Majority of them still today since 2000 yrs ago have NOT changed. They have remained in abject total rejection of Christ and All he spoke and taught. They still retain a Vile hatred of Christ and even Hate hearing His name mentioned in whispers.

                The full Proof of that can be eaisly found in Two main places. It can be found by broaching the subject of Jesus with them in person, and can also be readily found in Their Own religious books of Talmud-Zohar-Kabala.

                Christ said they have been Evil since the very Begining. That means since the garden of eden, where God placed a Curse upon the serphant aka Satan, when God said “And I will put Enmity between You and the Woman, and between Your seed and hers”

                Enmity means Hatred and an Inability to Ever get along or see eye to eye etc.

                SEED meant Satans Offspring aka children and the Womans offspring children. ONLY One Group of folks has Ever been labled as “Of Your father Satan” by Jesus Christ Himself.

                ONLY One religion calls Their place of worship a “Synagouge”….Christ warned Us about the Synagouge OF SATAN…..How many clues and Outright statements nameing satans children does any normal, even semi intelligent person require to see what the scriptures say?

                And for all you folks who keep saying bless the jews as some type final end word and that says it all…

                You need to Read the book of Galatians, and see that it says that Gods Promiced blessings to Abraham and his seed refers to Jesus that every nation and even every family on earth shall be Blessed by and through.

                And Galatians furthermore states that, ALL who accept and believe in Jesus Christ are the persons who shall be Blessed acording to Gods promices to Abraham, back in the book of genesis. What are Christ accepters and believers Called one may ask?..They are called CHRISTIANS! Not jews nor jewish. You cannot deny that as it is written plain as day and thats what it states. It specifically states that the “Jews” were NOT who God was speaking of in His promices to abraham in genesis.(its written in other books of the new testement also, but Galatians is the best in describeing it probobly). READ Galatians and stop makeing the Same mistake every time you tell us to bless jews etc. Do you take Pride in being consistantly Wrong on this issue or what?

                Yet you keep insisting that folks bless the very people Christ so condemned! In REV 2:9 and JOHN 8:44. seems of All people you types need to wake up the Most!

                Christ promiced His Church will Stand and the gates of hell shall NOT Prevail against His Church.

                Now How can that possibly come true unless the aprox 50-million brainwashed pro jew enangelicals such as the Pastor John Hagee ET AL crowds, wake Up to the mass deceptions such wolf in sheeps clothes preachers are when they parrot john hagges bless jews and bless state of israel regardless of how many and what wrongs they do.

                Any Pastor today who Fears to speak OUT Loud Publically the exact wordings of REV 2:9 and JOHN 8:44 and explain who and what its speaking about, is not worth any christians time or cash.

                If those pastors rather Obey IRS-501C taxfree rules/laws, instaed of Gods rules and laws?…So be it. But What the hell is any true christian doing in that, so called, church? Pastors can serve Only One Master. God or IRS.

                And thats the main reason they refuse to preach truth on all issues of jews and israel. IRS 501C taxfree status will get Yanked away as fast as that pastor teaches any truth and uses the word jew or jewish.

                Therefore like it or not, such are phony Fearfull men who Fear IRS loss of taxfree stats, and Fear nameing jews where appropriate. What can a person learn from such pastors…Anything BUT truth!

                Either they speak 100% truth and ALL of it always, or not. Those who adhere to and subscribe to such false pastors similar to hagee and the rest of the TBN tv crowd, will parrot and spew the same falsehoods as taught by said preachermen. A few persons Here this website proves that as Fact. Nobody gets on nor Remains on the Narrow path if they get their road map directions from that type preacher. That only leaves the WIDE Path which is Filled with folks, and ends at the gates of Hell with NO U-Turn allowed at that point!…READ Galatians! Wake Up!

                America cannot remain under the Rule and Control of Kommies, when the main kommie tribe leadership consists of a meere less than 2% of total usa population…Unless they retain Enableing and full defence/support by 50-Million “christians” deluded into such support as enablers based upon false self chozens status beliefs.

                A fully alert, understanding reading, of the New testement bible should be All one needs to clarify and Correct such mistaken ideas and falsehood beliefs, so many today have fallen under the spell of. Jesus also warned us of a Jezebel Mentality of Falsehoods beliefs in the messages to the 7 Churches in the book of Revelation, first 3 chapters. Todays jezebels are named Hagee-Stone-Robertson etc etc as seen on TV daily.

      13. Maybe if we started executing the miserable fucks for their crimes, people would start to behave more appropriately towards each other.

        Why should I have to pay for Manson to stay alive? Throw his ass into an incinerator and be done with it.

        • Nah, it wouldn’t. Even if you showed them a video of those criminals being put to death it wouldn’t. Just like Katrina and Sandy causing mass destruction and shown the world over, people still don’t prep. The only good it does is insure that that individual won’t be able to do it again.

        • We dont have the death penalty here Ca Resident, but we should. At the very least it ensures the worst of the worst will never be a threat to any decent person ever again. For some of the most disgusting crimes imaginable they have forfeited the right to breathe the same air as honest people.

          Can you imagine what some of this trash would do if the system failed and they managed to escape? You better hope your wife and kids didnt cross their paths!


        • Since we cannot rely on the state to execute or even jail these rats, we have to do it ourselves when the occasion arises. Get a CC permit and carry.

      14. One bullet to the head of each one of these maggots. Problem solved.

        • I recommend rope. It’s reusable.

          • Hemp rope is ecologically sound, say the potheads.

          • Yea but you dont have to get as close to their ilk if you punch holes in em from afar!

            • Carefull what you wish for as you just may get it. RE: the Death Penalty. I refer to what is called the Noahhide Laws. Which was signed into fed code laws by GH Bush the elder bush when prez back in 1991.

              It consists of just 7 major laws, that branch out into another 66(?) laws. Every one of which carries the death Penalty of death by Beheading. The first number one law of the orig 7 Noahide laws is all violations of “Idol Worship” is strictly Forbidden. All convicted of idol worship to be killed by Beheading.

              Any Belief in Jesus Christ is considered “Idol Worship” as Christ is considered a False God by the Tribe. As stated numerous times in the tribes Talmud books.

              If you never yet heard of Noahide Laws, better research it!…The actual 1991 fed USC-law or “Code” is hidden behind the bill as pased by the us house and senate and signed by Bush#1, the actual bill name was “A Resolution to recognize Education Day, and to Honor Rabbi Shneerson aka also known affectionatly by orthodox jews as “The RAM BAM” Rabbi. Schneerson delclared Himself the Messiah!. None of his lesser lower ranked Rabbis objected! They all agreed!

              I will Post a link to the actual word by word text of the Noahide laws as passed into Fed law by GH Bush 1991 in the Next reply post so moderators do not hold up this posting. Oh also. That education day/honor shneersons birthday cover name for the Noahaide laws was Passed in the us house and us senate the exact same way as the Fed reserve act of 1913 got passed!

              Both the house and senate First sent all but a few members Home for christnass holidays!(or some other holiday cant recall which for certan now but its listed at website) then they did a VOICE-vote by 3-4 members only! without telling the other senators or house reps what was going on!…Same method used to pass fed res act 1913… The website explaines the entire ordeal how it was done, passed, signed by Bush and every detail listed as Fed law.

              The Noahide Laws are designed for Only gentiles in their NWO when it becomes reality. Although if they get the chance it Will begin in the USA evern prior to actual NWO is official. NO Jewish folks need obey Noahide laws only gentile goyim are Bound by it. Jews plan to keep their Tamlud laws as their standards etc. SEE Next Post for Link to Your Future under Their Noahide Laws system!


                Bill Dannemeyer
                U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

                Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ! A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil. On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine! On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law.

                Before you respond, “NO, that cannot be – not in our free country!” let me explain.

                The passage of this law, HJ Res. 104, is especially troublesome to me because I was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives at the time it was passed. Even worse, I was in the House Chamber the very day that is was passed, voting on other legislation. Yet I, as a U.S. Congressman, had NO KNOWLEDGE that it had been passed or even that it was to be brought up for a vote.

                How could this be? How could the deception be so pervasive that those of us who had sworn to uphold our country’s Constitution, particularly those of us (few, indeed) who really took our position seriously as the protectors of the people, could be totally in the dark regarding the content of this bill and its passage by the leaders of this country – by treachery and deceit?

                Here’s how it happened!

                On January 31, 1991, an innocuous-sounding Resolution was introduced, designating March 26, 1991 as “Education Day, USA.” It was purposely given this name to deceive the American people. It was, in fact, a Double Deception because not only did the Resolution have nothing to do with “Education,” it was also deceptively billed as a vehicle for recognizing the eighty-ninth birthday of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. But in truth, the Resolution was nothing less than a secret, under-handed plot to control the American people by the Noahide Laws – a subterfuge for the elimination of Christianity, the elimination of all Christians, and the enslavement of all remaining “Gentiles.”

                CONTINUED! READ the REST entirely at…


        • It might not solve the problem however it makes shure that the reciepient of that bullet doesn’t do that no more times.

          • The death penalty cures repeat offenders Old Guy …..


            • Having the Death Penality Is only a law. It doesn’t assure the reciepent will be executed. All it actually does is make lawyers rich from the endless appeals. It usually takes decades before those convicted are executed.

              • Thank the progressive idiots who say its inhumane!

              • I heard Ron White say that Texas was putting in an express lane for executions.

        • Buckeyecopperhead, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN. My solution also.

      15. The ‘only’ fix for this is getting these kids and teens to a church, or daily reading AND studying of the Bible.
        Not gonna happen?
        Of course not. It takes caring parents for that.

        • Apparently, it takes a parent who’s a little tougher and more determined than the child.

          • Too much garbage going in. Between the crap music, movies, and cartoons. I harbor little hope you will have a decent functional adult. Add in the drug culture…

            • Many parents are pussies today…they let kids have everything especially tech shit…kids are programmed by it, the schools and by other weak parents.

              They have no chance. We were simply told, NO.

              • I’ve noticed kids today do not even walk to the bus stop by themselves. Their parents drive them there and they sit in the car until the bus arrives. These kids will never grow up to be independent minded adults.

                • I think the reason parents do that, is because there are sick fucks out there kidnapping children going to and from school. Maybe we need to catch and eliminate those sick people and then we could allow our kids could catch a damn bus to school without fear of being killed.

              • Children have no fathers in their life to instahl fear. My dad only wipped me once and my Mom was an over agressive wipp happy adult. I never once laid a finger on my mom because I knew my dad was a sleeping giant. He worked 3rd shift at the firehouse and all day at their business. Looking back now I’m glad I was the kid that never got to stay out late and I now realize my parents cared about my well being and the kids that got to stay out all night… for the most part are now in jail or drug addicts.

                • Spare the rod, spoil the child…my dad was kind and loving, but on those few occasions I really misbehaved,I lived in fear of his leather belt! :O

              • Lastmanstanding, I was told NO by my parents on various things when I was a kid and they had good reasons for doing so.

          • Watch “beyond scared straight” and you see what a lot of the problem is,kids hitting their parents,if my kids ever tried that my wife would have made them very sorry for their actions. Now parents are scared to do any discipline because of the p.c. crowd.

            • ‘Discipline’, with a capital D, with NO witnesses, EVER; NOT EVEN your spouse and other children!!!
              Then, when the little shit calls CPS, it’s his/her word against yours–99% of the time, CPS is so busy, they will believe you.
              Oh, leave no marks EVER!!!! 😉

              In Tennessee, my niece belted my great-niece for sassing because he wouldn’t wear the generic jeans to school.
              When she told me what he called her, he would be lucky to leave the house for the bruises on his body for a few days if he called me that!!!
              NEVER happened again!

              • Yep–great-nephew, not niece.

              • My daughter was 16 and trying to hang out with with gang members from her high school. Two of them had the balls to come to my door late one evening, sporting handguns under their coats. I answered the door with nothing more than the 16 inch butcher’s knife I was cutting up chicken with. They were looking for her…My daughter didn’t get past me to go with them and they didn’t feel comfortable trying to get past me, into my house.

                I was outnumbered and outgunned, but I wasn’t backing down either. I let them think about whether they could retrieve their guns before I struck out at their chests. I think most parents would’ve cowered.

                If a parent doesn’t have the guts to fight for their child, who will?

                • Sixpack, spot on. If you really love that child, YOU WILL STAND UP FOR THAT CHILD REGARDLESS. I see the biggest problem today as parents being too scared of CPS, law enforcement, and the courts to raise their children the right way. For the past 3 decades parents have been told if they give loving, legitimate discipline to their children, they will be charged with child abuse, their lives destroyed, and the kids will end up in foster homes with only God knows what type of people. If I had kids, I would raise them according to my beliefs, AND TO HELL WITH CPS, LEO, LIBERAL JUDGES, ETC. if anyone tried to hurt me over that, there would be consequences for them. braveheart

                  • AMEN, BH.

                  • My daughter threatened me with calling CPS once—I handed her the phone and asked “shall I dial it for you?”

                • Way to go 6 pac…just remember who they are.

              • We never cussed in the house, ever! Once, I don’t know what possessed my younger brother(he was definately the black sheep in the family)but after a heated arguement with my father, my brother told him to ‘f’-off. I couldn’t believe it! I was sayin’ to myself in my head ‘yep, tomorrow I’m goin’ to a funeral!’ My dad picked up a cast iron skillet from the stove, and I thought he was going to kill him right there on the spot! I have never seen such self control on anyone’s face as I did that day as my dad struggled with his emotions. To this day I believe the discipline my dad got from being in the army and fighting in WWII prevented a sure a swift retribution upon my younger brother…although the stove took a terrible beating from my dad, as he knocked a corner of it off with the skillet, instead of my brothers noggin.
                Discipline, self control, honor, doing the right thing, all displayed by my father in this situation…sadly lacking in so many folk’s these days.

      16. Well when the EBT zombies start looting…..becuase they are “entitled” to their free goods then let the
        response be lead.

        • Slick One, the only thing I’ll “entitle’ to them is to know they’ll be ‘ventilated’ if they try to take anything from me. braveheart

      17. Personally, if the above conduct from society is the best we have to offer, I say, PULL THE DAMN PLUG AND LET THEM ALL GO.

        We’d be better off without the kinds of people detailed in this article. The world doesn’t need their kind.

        On a final note, I can’t fathom a 12 year old pulling a full-grown woman to the ground. I may not be able to walk, but we’d BOTH hit the ground together, but there’d be only one of us getting back up…ME. Hell will freeze over before I let some little kid get the best of me.

        • That 12 year old might weigh 300 lbs. Grown and fattened on hormone laced food purchased with food stamps.

          • Having about four of their lifetimes worth of experience on them, I’d say, if I let a 12 year old outsmart me, then I deserve what I’d get…especially some fat-ass, sickly kid hopped up on doritos and energy drinks.

        • Sixpack, I agree. I have a hard time picturing ANY kid getting the best of me, but IF it were to happen, that kid will join me on the ground and I WILL BE THE ONLY ONE GETTING BACK UP. IF THEY’RE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG, THEY’RE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

          • NO fear…

      18. When the elected and appointed leaders of this country in pursuit of their agenda pick and chose which laws they will follow and which ones they will blatantly in your face ignore, they set an example of lawlessness that’s picked up on. When they decide to not enforce laws because of race, then the races realize it and act accordingly. When we are openly lied to by our government then government has lost it’s legitimacy and the rules of our society break down, it becomes a case of get what you can while you can and you can see it happening from government to wall street to main street to the streets and back alleys of america.

      19. a lot of people don’t believe in the electric chair….but if I”M ELECTED king…..we’re gonna have electric BLEACHERS for a bunch of these scum!

        • That one will give me chuckles all morning

        • As long as we’re not hit by an EMP.

      20. The only change possible is when individuals “go Galt”. These are all tiny decisions taken alone, but they can grow to become a tsunami. When you stop putting $ in your 401K or IRA and start buying long term food storage, gardening materials, guns and ammo, PMs etc you are making tiny Galt decisions that may someday add up to a quiet (well, maybe quiet) revolution. All that is necessary for the machine to break is for a sufficient number of people to say “no”. We are all seeing it. It grows daily. When people make the choice to get off the treadmill and start preparing as best they can they are refusing to buy in, to go along, and believe the propaganda. Big decisions like moving, changing careers and liquidating traditional assets and businesses are the last steps from a prepared individual. God speed your absorption of logic, reason and faith. God gave us intelligence but didn’t compel us to always use it.

        • We try to do that as much as possible. Yesterday was a home grown food day. Everything we ate was grown & processed entirely by us. No middlemen and most importiantly no taxes paid to anyone in government. We also purchase items in the internet if its free shipping and out of state so there is no sales tax. We can eventually starve the beast. barter and black market are becoming more prevalent. Ive been trading firewood for all sorts of things No cash or taxes involved.

          • Don’t forget estate and garage sales. Why buy new (and pay tax on it) when used will do? True, some items are not exactly what I was wishing for or top of the line, but I’ve got good enough until I can buy the item I really wanted. Some items like my Warren Axe, does have an interesting history behind it.

      21. I’m trying to think through the effect that suburbanization has had. With the middle class, which is the law-and-order class, having abandoned the cities, the pressure for law enforcement there has dwindled to nothing. The rump population in (e.g. Detroit) soon see an open door for every form of crime and corruption known to man, and if it isn’t known, they’ll invent it. Just like that mob that trashed the MalMart when they thought the EBT card limit was removed. Opportunity demands action! No consequences!

        Meanwhile the white folks in (e.g. Oakland and Macomb counties), go tsk, tsk, but since it’s all happening below 8 Mile, they don’t really give a damn.

        I use Detroit only because I lived too close to it for 15 years, so I have some inkling of the attitudes of Michiganders outside Wayne county.

      22. I think it’s dysfunctional people raising even more dysfunctional people.

        Some of the kids undo the damage from their upbringing. But more just raise more damaged people.

        I think the two biggest culprits are drugs and Hollywood.

        Garbage in/Garbage out

        • I agree with you. I still think there is hope. Watch the video on amazon Momumental with Kirk Cameron. Change starts in our houses, not the the White House. We can influence our children, our grandchildren and with courage, our neighbors and their families. However, we need to start now. Great film…..might find it on netflix. The government will nt approve!

        • Dave, the basic problem lies much deeper than what you suggest. This has been coming down the pike for over a hundred years. I know full-well that I’m going to be called some bad names for this, but this was brought on by Women Suffrage and the subsequent breakdown of the family. Sure, it was accelerated by a couple of wars which “required” women to leave the home and make money to feed their kids, but by digging a bit it’s obvious that the many of the underlying reasons for those wars was the aforementioned breakdown of the family unit.

          In order for Mom could to off to the office or the factory, the kids had to be warehoused. Enter the public school system where all the basic tenets of the Marxist system were touted and reinforced. Now – with very rare exceptions – kids have no idea of respect for or obedience to the one parent they know. And why should they? That lone parent is just an earlier version of them and – in time – they’ll continue the cycle.

          America – as we knew it – is in a death spiral! All we can do is save it in small areas. Seccession anyone?

          • Oldfart, I agree with you. Feminism has certainly done its share in destroying the traditional family and making problems only worse between men and women.

        • And that stinking thug culture rap music garbage. Too damn many people, black, white and hispanic trying to live the life they hear coming out of their stereo speakers.

      23. Same social and moral decay here too guys. And while ever we care more about the “rights” of the criminal instead of the victim that slide to collapse and anarchy will continue. There will be some who survive to rebuild – be one of them my friends!


      24. And the fools wonder why we all think we need high capacity magazines.

      25. I feel that many of these “people” are mentally ill, nothing like a little 1940’s style convulsive electro shock therapy for these zombies. After a few sessions Id bet bad behavior would diminish greatly.

        • Works better if you use 220 volt,applied to the nuts.

      26. Ok call me racist I don’t care. If Obama declares martial law. And then proclaims himself dictator for life. Who are the people who would support defend and protect him? What color would most of them be? My opinion? This will all eventually turn into race war & ethnic cleasning. The fact is that if all the black & other color folks disappeared from the face of the earth the next day the whites would have significantly fewer problems. If the Whites disappeared those folks would have more problems. By the way we have a counstitional right to be racist if we so desire.

        • The sad fact is everything we were warned would happen if segregation ended has happened: we didn’t have these problems when coloreds were kept in their place and the fear of a lynch mob went a long way in keeping negro violence in check.
          You know about the boy studying segregation in school who comes home and asks his dad to explain it? Dad has him go get the vanilla ice cream out of the freezer and a pile of dog turds from the yard. He holds each in separate hands and says “son this is segregation.” Then he smashes the dog turds and ice cream together. “This, son, is integration. Now see it didn’t hurt that dog shit none but damn sure fucked up that ice cream!”

          • If all whiteys disapeared from planet earth tomorrow, within One single years time or less the rest of the world left standing would revert back to cannibals and massive villages with homes built from a mixture of human and animal shit mixed with poluted waters and a few handfuls of dirt. Mixed together, shaped into round huts and the “smart” monkys will have thatched dead long grass roofs.

            Every monsoon season after rains ended they would need to rebuild every such village of huts. Due to melting houses.

            They will probobly call such places Ultra suburbia dwellings. At least whites tried for over 1000 yrs to civilize and educate and christianize the others. Not our fault they failed so miserably at learning to act white.

      27. I agree with Durango, I feel like the decay really accelerated with all of the factory jobs being moved out of our country. I grew up with two parents that were blue collar workers all of their lives. Things were more prosperous then, work ethics were a little different. My dad died never owning a credit card, because he believed that you don’t buy what you can’t pay for, and he imparted this ideal into his children.

        I grew up in a small town that housed many factories, quaker oats, levi, lee, Swift, Carnation, Purina were among some of them. When the early 90’s came, one by one these factories shut down and were moved out of the country. What happened after this was, of course, unemployment, young and elderly people returning to college and wracking up student debt, homelessness, rise in crime, and increase in welfare recipients. It has really gone down hill even more, ever since.

        My parents were able to work their jobs, make enough money to make the house payments, pay the doctor, and put food on the table, with just enough for a summer vacation each year and a little put back in savings for the retirement nest egg. I look back at this and shake my head, because this is something that’s hardly attainable now, not even with a college degree.

        Sorry to ramble, but the post about societal decay has really gotten to me tonight. It strengthens my resolve to prepare for the future, and I feel that this is all that I can do.

        I moved away from California years back, when I started to see signs of things getting even worse, and went to a place that has very few people, deep in the woods. I don’t really know if I’m any safer up here, but for now I’m farther away from the insanity in the inner cities.

      28. It’s no coincidence that you don’t see nearly as many random violent attacks on innocent people happening in ‘shall issue’ concealed carry permit states.

      29. In addition to my post above, I wanted to say that my husband and I are preparing. We might be late comers, but better late than never. The other day he told me it’s time to get a gun. I looked over at him in shock, because I’ve known this man for 14 years. He used to be a hippie and a pacifist lol. I woke up in 2005, and he came around in 2012. It was such a strange time when we were on separate pages, but I got him to come around! We spend a lot of our time discussing how we’re going to get ready, and putting a lot of ideas into action.

        I’m going back to the ways of my grandmother, who baked her own bread, had a garden, put up vegetables, and knew how to do almost anything because she was a farm girl. I’m lucky that she taught me how to do these things when I was little, but I never really carried it on throughout my life, because I fell into that trap where I depended on everything just being there for me. Entertainment, fast food, etc.

        Many people will have to change the way they live, and the way they do things in order to survive. But are they capable? I don’t see how many of the people who have made welfare their lifestyle, and are completely dependent upon the govt, being able to know how to do anything. As it is now, you can use food stamps on your EBT at fast food restaurants in some states. How many know how to cook, garden, can your food, hunt responsibly? And how many are willing to return to the old ways, rather than gang up with mobs of people and just pillage and burn their communities? I think we’ll see flash mobs robbing everything that they can. And I also think many people are going to feel a hard cold slap of reality hit them when EBT is cut off. People will go crazy. Women will stand outside in grocery store parking lots and cry about how they are going to feed their children. Their men will stand helplessly next to them in a begging posture, hoping someone will come to the rescue. No one is going to come to the rescue. Once that settles in, then anger and rage will take over, the sense of entitlement kicks in, and the pillaging begins.

        This is what I fear, and what I know we will be facing. I live in a very small area yes, up in the woods. But I also know it’s a matter of time before these people make their way up here, and I need to figure out how I’m going to be able to defend myself. My dad once told me, don’t ever get a gun unless you intend to use it. I think he’s right. And now that my husband is wanting a gun, I see he understands what we are up against, and that someday soon, we may have to use it in order to survive. It scares me, but it’s reality.

        • @UpNorth Better late than never to start preparing and I hope you can remember what your grandmother knew. You for sure need to have a gun and know how to use it if you intend to keep what you have. Good luck with your preps!

        • Hey, Up North,
          I agree for the most part, except there won’t be any “men” standing next to “they baby’s mamas” in begging postures because they don’t have a clue which kids they fathered….nor do they care…..

        • It’s time to get two guns, one for each adult in the house. Same caliber.

        • @ Up North..what state are you in? If you are going to hunt, pick that gun out carefully.

        • North,you are say even 50 miles away from major cities starving folks will not make it to your neck of the woods.I do believe in a breakdown some more organized criminals might move around like locusts,hopefully not your way but if they do a gun may be needed,choose battles carefully though.Folks don’t see you they can’t screw with you.Your husband being a hippy a good thing,that peace and love vibe will have him doing the right things when possible to help others,and that may be our only hope long term picking up the pieces.Live and enjoy today,prepare for tommorow.

        • Welcome to the real world :)…its hard work but youll make it when others fail…

      30. Old Guy, I’m guessing you are wishing you had picked your own cotton??


        • My parents grew cotton and we all picked it. Until the dept of agriculture took awayour cotton allotment and gave it to the agribuisnessmen. nobody in my family has ever owned any slaves.

          • We planted, chopped and stripped our own tobacco- does that count? (BTW- I’ve never smoked and can’t stand the thought of using tobacco in any form. Too many memories of nicotine headaches from handling it and too many visuals of picking tobacco worms off the leaves. Don’t get me started on setting the plants.)

        • Short answer: Hell yes

      31. Off the topic here….I’ve got the whole 6th grade private /international homeschooling book sets ( students, parents sets, lab set, reading books etc) if anyone wants them….I chose this private/ international path due to some homeschooling follows the same path as public schools…this is metric system in math and all subjects your child has to get 80 or higher to pass,,, If you do it online , its 70.00 a month,,,,, very well worth it

      32. “So how can I be so sure that this is going to happen? After all, the United States didn’t descend into complete and utter chaos during the Great Depression of the 1930s. Wouldn’t an economic depression unfold in a similar manner today?

        Unfortunately, a lot has changed since then. A lot more Americans were self-sufficient back in those days, and the truth is that the character of our nation has been rotting and decaying for decades. ”

        Why no utter chaos, no massive riots, no looting, no pillaging and general upsurge in criminality in the 1930s? Simple answer. America was an overwhelmingly White European populated nation in those days. Whites were around 90 percent of this nation’s population, and since all respectable studies of crime statistics clearly show, the percentage of Whites in any given area is always key factor in determining the level of crime that occurs in that area. The higher the percentage of Whites, the lower the percentage of crime.

        Thus, this factor clearly proves that the greater the homogeneity a city, state, or nation has – the less crime, the less conflict, and the less tension and dysfunctionality the city, state or nation will tend to exhibit. However, perhaps this rule might not always apply equally to every distinct racial or ethnic group – because it certainly does not apply to places like Zimbabwe or Detroit where one particular racial group are close to being exclusively homogenous. But, the rule sure as hell applies whenever we’re dealing with White European people.

        Look, folks. Every major leader of every major European nation in Europe have admitted that multi-culturalism is a failure. It is impossible to disconnect the failure of multiculturalism to the issue of multiracialism, because these two entities are bound at the hip and cannot be separated from one another. Different races create different kinds of cultures, and this is why multiculturalism is a failure – because different races and the different cultures that are created by them are not always compatible. In most cases, they are in direct conflict with one another – and this breeds tension, resentment, disharmony, competition, and social instability which eats away at the social cohesion that is vital for any society and nation to succeed – and eventually, these factors lead to violence and revolution.

        This concept is so childishly simple to understand that only a hostile, alien ruling elite who were deliberately trying to destroy a nation and to genocide its founding, native peoples would try to force this misery upon a nation.

        Keep this truth in mind, when the SHTF or when CW2 finally breaks out. These evil, hostile elites must be awarded the ultimate penalty as punishment for their conspiracy to destroy the USA.

        And, let us all remember to keep our chainsaws and wood chippers in good working order, in anticipation of that payback day arriving.

        • when the s$%t comes down the sewerpipe, it will effect EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD due the Fed’s “Quantitative easing”

          nobody will be unaffected. don’t expect our enemies – China and Russia not to take advantage of chaos, either.

          • Why does everybody still think China and Russia are our “enemies”? They don’t give a crap about conquering us, all they have to do is sit back and watch us destroy ourselves, with our own stupidity.

      33. During the Great Depression a little over 12 million Americans died from starvation out of a population of 124 million. That is 10% of the population perished.

        7million from the cities and 5 million in the Rural areas. This was in a time when God was in the families, as a Nation we had higher morals and neighbors helped each other.

        Today do we even know our neighbors, I don’t know if people know how to even spell morals and God is lacking in the family, by definition the family unit is shrinking while there are now over 20,000 “Violent Gangs” consisting of well over 1.3 million “Violent Gang members”.

        There are more dependent on gov with less being self sufficient, which brings up a question.

        Have you really done everything you could have to survive and to protect your family?

        • God was in familys then yes and the jews were inside the banks and Fed Govnt. The rest is history. Every facet of every agenda they have done was/is designed to destroy the goyim and create a NWO ruled by them the self appointed master race tribe. 109 nations that gave em the Big BOOT since 245 ad cant all have been wrong eh.

          They are called nation Wreckers for a well deserved reason. And every nation that booted them out finally got things back to normal in quick time.

          Only I do not see anywheres in history where so many gentiles in any nation were so sold out to the tribe as co equal partners like we see today in the usa. The tribe always relied upon “some” crooked gentile enablers yes. But never before has the tribe had so many enabler crooks from the nations own gentiles as america does now.

          Remember that when its time to deal with the bastards.

      34. This in nothing that simple injection of lead cannot fix. Then get the parents also for being so repulsive, having a child is responsiblity, plain and simple. If you cannot take of the the children keep you Fu__ing legs shut. No debate, simply stating the facts. If the parents of children cannot and will not take care of thier kid(s), then suffer the reaction of those willing to take the correct course of action. Nuf said.

      35. It is the decline of the American family that has brought us to this point. We have allowed the liberal government and education system to step in and raise our children. Thus the moral and ethical base this country was built on has been destroyed.

        To correct this government and it’s influence must be reduced, Christianity must be reinserted and we must stop the flow of immigration of foreigner’s who refuse to acclimate to our way of life.

        One more thing has to change: Ban soccer, I hate it. 🙂


        • Yep its the Hillary Clinton it take a village mentality. However organized religion isn’t the answer. Im not a christen and am still a good person. most so called christans I know are liars cheats & thieves. There isn’t any human solution other than hot lead.

          • You can’t shoot everything as the answer to all problems. Wait a minute, I have always wondered who shot all the highway signs in Montana. Old guy, did you happen to pass thru the state back in 2001?

            • shot up highway signs are the least of our problems. when it comes to varmits. Im of the opinion when in doubt shoot them all and let god sort them out. If things really go all to crap as we all suspect they will. Only the meanest craftiest healthiest folks who have no hesitation to do whatever is necessary will survive. It will be Root Hawg or die survival of the fittest. Religious bible thumping wont save your life. Pray in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets full.

              • @Oldguy

                I challenge you to read the Bible from front to back and tell me there isn’t a GOD. It cannot be done. The Bible has an affect on all who digest it. I was raised in a cult like church and when I turned 18 I moved out and went wild. It took a life threatning situation to get me to seek out GOD on my own. I learned most people know what others tell them about GOD instead of reading the Bible. Just remember, we are predestined for our faith according to Paul so I beleive GOD knows which are his and which will be lost.

                Saying a prayer for you because a life without GOD/hope is no life to live. If you offered me a briefcase full of a million in cash and told me the only thing I had to do is never pray or speak to GOD again; I would tell you that isn’t possible because GOD is my friend, counselor, father, leader, and strength just to name a few.

                Remember, people give Christians a bad name because many profess to be saved but in no way practice what the Bible tells us. You will meet many who say they are Christians, but in no way give GOD his 10% in tithes. That is one of the hardest things to do as a Christian so most people just skip that one.

                I’m not judging, just trying to give you my experience in becoming a Christian because if I wouldn’t have read the Bible, I still would have hatred to all Christians because I figured they were all like the cult my parents church is a part of.

                • I never said there isn’t a god. I don’t approve of organized religion. I try to do what jesus told on the sermon on the mount. He gave good advice. however Im not a Christian. Go ahead tout your religion your free to do so. Just don’t try to force it upon others. I believe separation of church & state is a good thing.

                • Indy,
                  Giving tithes does not make you a Christian, nor is it an index of true Christian spirit, such that the lack of tithing means you are not a true Christian.

                  In addition, if we are strictly predestined to have faith, why plead with the individual? It is much more likely that there is a complex interplay between God’s sovereignty and man’s free will. How can the Bible say “He is NOT willing that ANY should perish” if He is indeed willing that some SHOULD perish?

                  And, do not forget that “whosoever” is broad indeed, when the Bible says “whosoever believes…”

                  And in Luke, when they asked, “who, then can be saved?” Remember: “But, He said ‘the things that are impossible with people are possible with God.”

                  You are a legalist, which is likewise frowned upon by Jesus, and your attitude is discouraging to prospective new Christians.

                • 10% Tithes has zero to do with new testement christianity. It is a part of the Old testement old covenant Moses laws that were done away with when Jesus Replaced that old covenant with the New covenant of christianity. All it says about paying pastors is that the teachers and preachers who do Gods work should be compensated like any job pays etc.

                  But pastors are also warned to not seek wealthy riches and gains either. A meager lifestyle is what it says.

                  Todays preachers has used various old testement verses to GUILT Trip folks into retaining the Moses laws of titheing 10%.(yet those pastors agree all other moses era laws were done away with! All “BUT” tithes huh?!!) Thats part of Israel hebrew religious practices and christians are warned to avoid all pastors the bible calls “Judaizers” who try to swindle folks to go Back under the Law aka the Old testement covenant now made invalid and defunct by Jesus and Christianity.

                  Its not christians who need go back to OT ways, rather its Jews who need accept Christ and convert to be christians and reject their former jewish ways etc.

                  The only one single way to salvation is thru Jesus. Thats means ALL folks salvation includeing jews and all other religions. One way and one Name, Christ, means what it says. Its for every person. Plus most pastors today never apply donated cash like was done in old testement days.

                  They buy multi million dollar homes and jet plans. While the vast majority of the rest are always Trying to catch up in wealthy riches and jets and fancy cribs.

                  There a website that tracks and lists most famous and big money pastors today. You will be shocked into reality if you see the money list and just how huge pastors salarys and wives and sons pay checks are with as example that TBN TV pastors crowd like Hagee-Benny Hinn-Paul and Jan crouch!…They are the Poster boys and girls for lying signs and wonders and wolves in sheeps clothes!

                  John Hagee as of 2001, last time I checked, paid himself and his wife just Over $2 Million total per year. PLUS hagee added $400,000 per year to his 401K retirement plan. PLUS hagee owns an 8,000 acre hunting estate with a massive house that has 27 bedrooms and baths, and a massive commercial type Kitchen able to cook and feed 140+ persons at one time!

                  All complete with live in servants and cooks/chefs etc…That 8000 acre estate is also a working hunting for profit outfit with its own Game of every type, with a blacktop Runway for his Jet Plane that state of israel and NY jews Gave him as a “FREE GIFT”!

                  That entire 8000 acre estate is part of his 401K plan besides the $400,000 per yr cash he adds to it yearly.

                  Hes the Posterboy of poster boys when it comes to phony falsehood teachers and a wolf in sheeps cloths.

                  All made possible by folks emotional guilt trips if they refuse to Pay Up suckers! 10% tithes! Too bad they never read the new testement to see how tithes was done away with. Theyd have way more cash on hand to Pay their own bills instead of Hagees Jet Fuel bills!

                  I will let You figure out Why Israel and NY jews bought hagee a free jet and even his own runway! PS Jerry Falwell was also given a similar free jet Plane by the same jewish folks…Soon after Falwell also began to preach “Bless them jews” and “jews can do NO wrongs and get a free pass back door key into heaven” just for being Born!….Lots of deluded Tithe payers in Falwells region too eh.

              • I disagree;around here shot-up road signs are indeed a problem- the dispersion shows a severe need for more practice from a moving vehicle.

            • You mean “speed limit” signs in Montana. I noticed they have more than thier share of holes and scattergun marks.

          • Vilifying organized religion and Christianity is exactly how we got to where we are now.

            You are being part of the problem.

            • Yes, Smokey,
              you are correct. The Bible says this:
              “for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.” 1 Cor 14:33

              Recognized order is necessary to avoid fatal doctrinal errors, which abound when people are left to their own devices and “intuition” (and even when they are not….) People end up practicing some whackadoodle stuff when they go off on their own.

              • And in that same vein 300,000 seperate pastors nationwide with each being his Own “pope” also is cause for much mass confusions. Jesus created ONE Church not several thousand denominations each with their own ways and practices etc. And none seems more confused and in total chaos than those many southern baptist groups.

                One would think by Now at least the folks in the southern states would be wide awake and jew wise after what happened by jew run slavery, and how so many NY carpet bagger type jews headed for the southern states After the civil war to scam and swindle folks out of the little property left after shermans slash and Burn agenda in his march to the Sea!

                Yet today there are nobody as pro jew as the southern baptist. Maybe what I read once is true?

                That presburetarians are just baptists that are able to Read and Write. Unable to Read may explain how so many of the south can be so deluded to worship all things jewish today after all thats happened since 1860.

            • Smokey, I disagree. Elitist’s indoctrination and control of organized religion, is what got us where we are today. Many people turned away from religion.org when they realized it wasn’t about God anymore, but about indoctrination and control of the masses.

              We stopped being followers of Jesus, and became followers of the church itself, meaning we followed the will of MEN, not GOD.

              • You got that right!

        • Amen Big B…especially the soccer comment.

          Fucking socialist sport…In fact, get rid of all sports.

          They have been ruined by the fact that one can make a ton of money…they used to be about teamwork, sharing, working as one, fun, comradery, discipline.

          Now only about $…and power.

      36. We have confused pacification with civilization. When the rulers pull the pacifier out of the mouth of this bloated 360 million pound, sleeping baby, you will see my point. We will all blame someone else, rather than take accountability for having believed their lie, just as we are doing now. Each person will attempt to keep their personal illusions alive as long as possible. We will choose to be offended instead of being real.

        Our god is government and money; and it gives, and it takes away. When it gives, we get profoundly stupid. When it takes away, we usually harm each other.

      37. While the topics in article disturbing and may be on the rise this nasty shit has always happened and the media loves it as it sells papers/viewers.While many acted like assholes in say Katrina remember the folks that helped others whether their job or just their good side/folks who rode on storm on roofs because they refused to abandon their pets(family members),search and rescue teams from Canada that came immediately to help out,a lot of examples of good that didn’t get the media attention they deserved.A lot of folks doing good things daily,risking arrest to feed the homeless/volunteering in Detroit to keep city parks maintained,world is full of also good news.Mac,I would suggest perhaps once a week a article of the good things people do/ways to live with less and still have a nice life/you get the idea.Yes,we can add as posters also links of good things going on in the world,many have said what they will do if possible to help others when they can in SHTF showdown,there is hope also.Live and enjoy today,prepare for tomorrow!Soon will be out with bow scaring deer as I crash thru the woods,yestarday was a great day out there,saw many I scared but better tracks of a big buck!

          • Thanks! Those are great pictures. We need that to remember why we want to survive this mess.

            • Suzi,will try and do regularly,we need to remember there are good people out there despite powers that try and rid society of these folks with a conscience and a good heart,we all need it as we try and be ready for tough times.

        • @ Warchild.. When on logging roads, I tape a piece of carpet on my boots. Makes me so quite I can sneak up on a bear, which I try to avoid cause they taste terrible.

          • Eh,too much prep though appreciate advice.The time spent out there is time well spent,though if clean shot and kill would appreciate don’t have to have it.We get in a live or die situation can can get Bambi at 300 yards cheating with scope and .308(sorry bambi).Really trying to work on skills to be a bit less noisy in the woods.Some folks depend on a kill to whether family eats well or not,at moment not in that situation and enjoy trying to learn to be a stealthy predator though have a long ways to go!

      38. I know it’s got to be me, but the Gal behind Obama that fainted (?) sure looks like someone from Sandy Hook or Boston Bombing or from somewhere to me.

        • They all look demented.

      39. Tell me about it, I have a teenage daughter, the guys wanting to ask her out are vile jackasses, and cant take no for an answer.

        good thing shes been raised right and knows what she wants, they don’t stand a chance, problem is she really has to watch her back and cant pack until shes 21, plenty of years to go without having a formidable tool to use if ever put in a position she doesn’t agree with

        • Hank,how about a good martial training course,good for everyone.I will say on a side note that all fathers of daughters think their daughters suitors are jackasses!

          • He’s not far off the mark, seems a majority of teenage boys are nothing more than sex hounds. Keep her away from the parties, they are group orgies. Seriously.

        • Buy her a can of Wasp spray. My girls carry them in their cars and have them in their apartments. I have one by our back door. Never know when one may arrive.

          • Why not just buy pepper gas it’s legal lots of places even if you are not 21. Better look up the laws where you are, the Bear spray is wicked stuff..

      40. You left number 13 out:

        The crimes being committed by police officers is off the charts lately. The difference in these crimes and crimes of the general population, is that the police are unpunished.

      41. There is a reported law enforcement alert in North Carolina.
        Two weeks ago in Wilmington a gang member was killed by Law Enforcement and in return, the gang (Bloods) made a threat that an officer in NC would be killed. I saw the email alert sent to an officer. Also, the gang member had a active criminal record and had been on probation several times.

        dangerous times, yes.

      42. Will not let me post Earthquakes L-N and R-V; 404 pops up

      43. I don’t think we have to wait til the “next” economic crisis to happen, if you open your eyes, where there now.

        • I agree Hank. The trigger has been pulled, the bang has yet to arrive, but is close. Now is our last chance to plug the barrel or bend it around 180 degrees, so to speak. I fear the chances of that happening are slim. We begin severely out manouvered. Ignorance really is bliss, look at the markets. See Icarus soar.

      44. @ tired of ny bs, and Old Coach. I can understand dangerous words or images, or something that could cause a virus on a computer to prevent a key word or two from being allowed on a cimputer, but what I was trying to send was absurd. 12 words, that others have called the forbidden sentence caused everyone to not be able to get through and get that 404 error message. It was not threatening, just a statement about how those at the top of a pyramid exploit and get everything from those below them. Which of course is too true. As I mentioned before the two words, poker face, caused the same issue before last year. I mean it would not even allow Mac to get it.

        I have had this happen several times, and most of the time I just retype what was written. This time I sent Mac a very long article that took much time to write and it really got me wondering what was being said that was being censored. When I narrowed it down through sending mac pieces of it that did go through, I was mystified why something like this would blocked everything else.

        Really, I wrote about just how rotten a government can become and what to look for with a truly evil government. I thought someone saw this and no way was going to let sections of it or all of it from reaching Mac to see it. I may be extremely into earthquakes because the system I have can forecast them with some degree of accuracy, but I also understand that the entire infrastructure and the governing body is crumbling all around me and everything else. It is very upsetting and I thought others might enjoy reading what I wrote on this site and elsewhere. Then it was blocked and I was going to find out no matter what exactly why.

        That why is so ridiculous. Other things I wrote about in this article are far more insulting of the government, why this simple little sentence that is still blocked from getting through from all other people’s computers? This is a problem for ALL of us. You could spend much time writing about something important, and end up totally wasting your time if you don’t save the message or just because you can’t figure out which key word(s) is stopping this from getting through.

        Many people don’t have a lot of time to rewrite what they commented on and some just won’t do it or worse, not comment again for a long time. This hurts the site, the site Mac has spent so much time making successful, much when people cannot get through. Maybe this is the plan of trollers, goverment, or someone else, to hurt SHTFPLAN as much as possible. 🙁 This is something to be concerned about.

        • Ive sent many things that I never see up here, I have sent leads, attachments, or copies of websites or articles and never see or hear about them, up here..

          yes I have quit doing it, got better things to do with my time unfortunately ..I also cant always retype everything that came to top of mind at that moment.

          but you can dam sure bet I haven’t forgotten what Ive seen or heard

        • Howdy BI!

          All that you write above is quite true Friend…and I have had my own share of aggravations associated with in-posting to the site.

          Over time, as some of the things we post are both LONG and COMPLEX I was compelled to adopt another strategy: I pin Windows Notepad to the task bar and the INSTANT that I have completed a comment I copy that to Notepad as a matter of habit; thus, if ANYTHING ‘falls-through the cracks’ then I STILL have what was sent available for IMMEEDIATE resend. To be sure, anyone here using TOR should make this patterna a HABIT as THAT one is Damn ‘picky’ about what it will and will not pass at any given moment (apparently, a function of the nature of the TOR network)…beleive me, it saves a WHOLE LOT of frustratation. As well, it would appear that those using TOR are – potentially – immune to the phenomena you mention; think about is…a secure transmission path ALMOST fully shielded up till it emerges to exposure at Mac’s place…less opportunity there for ‘molestation’, Eh? Just a thought here….


        • If it is one sentence in particular send it with each word spelled backwards and some us can try and see if and from where it goes through.

      45. I have stated in the past about my position on an economic collapse and I maintain my position , I also said a war with Syria was off the table and 2 months later here we are !
        Prepare but don’t expect any collapse or martial law any time soon !
        First of all at this time of the year they won’t collapse the system anyway because of the holiday season and they want people to hand over as much of their money as possible , secondly , if the system was going to collapse soon then WHY implement the ACA ……it would be a waste of time and resources !

        • You are changing.

          • better meds.

        • {{if the system was going to collapse soon then WHY implement the ACA ……it would be a waste of time and resources !}}

          There are now basically two camps on the ObamaCare website fiasco.
          1)There is a camp that says that the site was built to crash and cause denial of service attacks on itself because the regime didn’t want people to see that insurance premiums are skyrocketing.
          2)There is another camp of IT guys that says that the entire website is a Potemkin Village – that it is just a front-end facade with a data entry form, and that there is no real code underneath the facade to actually sell people insurance on an “exchange”. The forms are just collecting data to use later against the subscriber.

        • “I have stated in the past ”

          You also foamed at the mouth quite heavily about never coming here again….

        • Howdy, Rich99. implementing obamacare is most likely another step on the road to collapse.

      46. Well, Mac may be running a text scanner, just as Google does, to pick out offensive language. A lot of other sites do that, too. I’ve run into it at Red State, which had such a draconian “prohibited list” that it was hard to get even innocuous comments to post. (Meanwhile Red State does nothing about spammers posting five or six “my sister-in-law made $85 an hour on his computer doing…..” posts per thread.)

        If Mac’s scanner is redirecting “offensive” posts to a dead-end page, then that would be why you’re getting the 404. But that’s Mac’s software doing it, not the Feds or your ISP, or even Mac’s ISP. That said, it’s up to Mac to trim and cull the list of offensive words and/or phrases.

        To Mac: I notice that this thread has had zero entries from the usual batch of trolls, so something’s working. Thank you VERY much. If it causes me a little inconvenience while you get the bugs worked out, I’m OK with that. (It hasn’t so far.)

        I’m also thinking that a maximum character count might be in order, to prevent the 2000+ word cut-n-paste posts that used to clutter up the site.

        • OC thanks for your comment. We’re working on the commenting issue right now — seems to be server level somewhere.

          The character limit is a GREAT idea and we’ll get one implemented soon.

          Insofar as a text screener — I have never filtered for any sort of “unpopular” language or speech — no idea why this is happening other than that it might be the AKISMET spam filters taking it upon themselves to do it.

          At this point, we are strongly considering an external commenting solution like DISQUS to manage the comments.

          Thanks for your patience folks!


          • Noooo, please! Not Disqus! I have to disable half my anti-snooper software to let Disqus run.

      47. Hi all. I’m new to the prepping world. My question to you all is do you think if the democraps take the house in mid term elections if they will do away with term limits for president. There for Obama can keep getting reelected and has his dictatorship.

        • Newbee
          I don’t think so but stranger thing have happened. If they do look out because it will only be months when states will start leaving the union. The Civil War will start.
          Welcome aboard. There are a lot of great folks on this site. So any questions. Just ask!!

          • I think I would prefer that states or parts of states leave the union. However It could be worse What if the new country did not adhere to the freedoms and god given inalienable rights outlined in the US Counstitioun & Bill of Rights. Its a unknown future.

        • Gonna be kinda hard for them to override the 22nd Amendment, no matter how much they kick and foam at the mouth.

        • The 22nd Amendment, presidential term limits, is not going to happen. They don’t need to do that, not right now.

          They will, however, work on Undocumented Democrat Amnesty this fall. Once that passes, the Dems will hold office forever, one-party dictatorship with a willing media to sell it to us.

      48. MAC — the best steel goes through the fire

        If you and your venerable site can survive
        all this SNAFU, you will have earned your

        Hang tough, my friend

      49. There were TWO COPS that participated in the attack on the SUV. The other is an INTERNAL AFFAIRS officer Matthew Rodriguez. NYPD is PROTECTING this One among others, The DA has made it clear that even though it’s public knowledge that there were four(4) NYPD officers there on scene , and Rodriguez was ID’ed by witnesses as attempting to gain entry to the right side of the SUV,( the side where the mother and child were) only Braszczok will be prosecuted. God forbid that an IA officer be found as fallible in their rank-and-file!

        All of these participating LEO’s should be in general population starting tomorrow , if they want to participate in any beat downs im sure they will get their chance in the local prison system

        where im from there would have been gun shots fired and maybe these lawless law men might have put themselves in a bad position ..careful who you associate with

        • In my neck of the woods it would have ended poorly for the bikers. The bikers would have also met my friends Smith & Wesson whom don’t take kindly to people breaking windows in my car and threatening my family.

          • Shootit, it would’ve ended poorly for them if they had tried that shit with me. Mr. Springfield XD40 would’ve stood between me and those bikers. braveheart

        • Pretty sad when undercover cops get involved in assault on the streets. Appears they had some real loyalty to the gang, not the public good.

          I wonder what they would have said or done if the SUV driver had shot one of the bikers? Perjury, at least?

          Or if he had shot one of the undercover cops?

          Would the other one have opened fire on that family?

          • Smokey, the day is coming when the rotten cops who engage in criminal activity will start facing resistance. People are fed up with the actions of rogue cops who give ALL cops a bad name. I still trust good cops who prove themselves to me, no problem there. But I’m not going to submit to any cop with bad intentions toward me. When a cop commits an illegal act against someone, he has to expect to pay a price for his act. braveheart

        • Just my opinion having been a biker for decades and riding with some rough characters….these guys were impostor want to bees…common crooks and morons!

      50. Solar Update,

        A flare is occuring at this time which has just passed the M-class in magnitude…and is continuing to rise. The character of this flare is aleady clearly of the LDE type (Long Duration Event) and if this – in fact – originates with NOAA 11875 then there is a HIGH probability that an Earth directed CME will ensue. NOAA has already issued a type II radio event warning and I fully ecpect that additional warnings of that genre will follow presently.

        There is ALWAYS a 15 minute ‘lag’ in obtaining the relevant soft X-ray imaging (EVE) which is used to determine the point of origin of any flare, thus we are as yet unsure as to the actual genitive source. That said, there is little else on the visible disk whith the complexity to generate a flare of any significant magnitude, hence , here the presumption that 11875 is the culprit…yet that is an ASSUMPTION at preent.

        More to follow as, and if warranted.


        • Thanks for the heads up JOG!

          Question: Once a CME of a significant magnitude leaves the sun, how much time do we have to get sensitive items into a faraday cage?

          Thanks again for everything that you & BI do to give us as much warning as possible for upcoming natural events.

          Take care and stay safe…


      51. Take GOD out of the equation and this is the result. Keep a big stick for people like these because they won’t blink at your demise. Very Sad country/world. Satin is showing us his intentions for humanity.

        • What we have is the result of the parasites voting themselves money from the public coffers. Just ask those in power and they will quickly tell you that they are doing the correct things. They will state if it is wrong God wouldn’t allow me to prosper doing it. They will also tell you what good Christians they are.

      52. Here is a sign many are not talking about

        ok so don’t put any credibility to this..thats fine..if you think the nuke fall out of fuck U shema and the oil spill of the deep water horizon, and all the underwater volcanic disruptions

        massive animal and fish die offs that have been individually reported, but no one making the connection with them all

        the possibilities of pole shift, weather related issues, man made issues..poisoning the environment we all live in”

        no wonder he didn’t see any fish or birds..they are dead


        • “After we left Japan, it felt as if the ocean itself was dead,” Macfadyen said.

          “We hardly saw any living things. We saw one whale, sort of rolling helplessly on the surface with what looked like a big tumour on its head. It was pretty sickening.

          “I’ve done a lot of miles on the ocean in my life and I’m used to seeing turtles, dolphins, sharks and big flurries of feeding birds. But this time, for 3000 nautical miles there was nothing alive to be seen.”

          In place of the missing life was garbage in astounding volumes.

          “Part of it was the aftermath of the tsunami that hit Japan a couple of years ago. The wave came in over the land, picked up an unbelievable load of stuff and carried it out to sea. And it’s still out there, everywhere you look.”

          Ivan’s brother, Glenn, who boarded at Hawaii for the run into the United States, marvelled at the “thousands on thousands” of yellow plastic buoys. The huge tangles of synthetic rope, fishing lines and nets. Pieces of polystyrene foam by the million. And slicks of oil and petrol, everywhere.
          And something else. The boat’s vivid yellow paint job, never faded by sun or sea in years gone past, reacted with something in the water off Japan, losing its sheen in a strange and unprecedented way

      53. Interesting though…many of these crimes are sexually related,and are condemned,as they should be…yet nearly half of the side-bar adds on this site are with nearly nude women…how subtle of contributions do we make without realizing it.. makes me wonder a bit

      54. We have know for years that there is going to be a crash. If you prepared it ain’t fun but you will make it. If you didn’t, and you become a ZOMBIE. don’t come around me!!!
        Live like its you last day on earth. Tell you loves you love them!!!
        It is funny. We will look back at the past when we are in a SHTF time frame, and we will call this THE GOOD OLD DAYS!!!!
        Prepare, Prepare, Prepare, while there is still time.

      55. You can add the government and lame stream media to the wonderful people who now occupy America. Because it was the real deal and not a false flag many of you probably haven’t heard of the school shooting here in the Reno/Sparks NV area. I only bring it up to illustrate one way to recognize a true false flag event. Had it been a true sanctioned government false flag event, just like Sandy Hook the media would be all over it for days and weeks with their gun confiscation agenda. The shooter being a 12 year old Hispanic probably has some roll as well. It does fit the above story in as far as a 12 yr. old killing teachers, friends and self. Yep, we live in a post hippie, bra burning, God killing, abortion mania generation that has completely corrupted all morality for the last 40 years. I for one won’t miss the hippie generation. As far as fixing it, no way. The hippies have left huge piles of shit throughout our society the will take a complete reset to clean out. Come on EMP. Hope your correct The VOICE from the Outer World.

      56. @ Mac. This is only a suggestion, but the more restrictions to commenting the less people want to comment. The one golden issue here is that one can remain anonymous without others sending their personal systems all sorts of spam and other problems. That anonymous status is something that is a bedrock foundation with preppers/survivalists. Too many sites, what seems like most of them use some tracking system that people don’t like. I don’t even know anything about E-mail, but like I mentioned before I lost two computers using E-mail with Norton Anti-Virus from a couple of mega destroying viruses that fried the hardware. I don’t use E-mail for this reason as I like my computer.

        I agree with Old Coach about the cut and paste of articles with the maximum word limit, but not when someone has something to say and is willing to spend a half a hour or longer trying to type out something that could be important. I guess they could just repost it with the word limit was reached on another comment. I try not to ramble personally, but sometimes someone might ask me something and it takes some space to explain it so they learn and we all learn. I know JustOneGuy has posted some very long comments that he took the time to attmept to explain something, and this time spent to add to any site should be encouraged and not stopped because of it going beyond a certain anount of space. The cut and paste could be cured by someone simply using a link to those interested in reading it.

        All I am saying is that it would be ashamed for such a free site to free speech to get some of those other suffocating issues with most of the other sites on the internet. I also understand that you have only a limited amount of time to go through the bullsh$% and need to improve certain aspects to make it easy for yourself. Maybe a balancing act is in order here between the two. This is only my two cents as I want what is best for everyone before true hell breaks down everything.

        • BI,
          Good points. I agree with you.

        • The problem is not email itself, but the default actions of popular email software. Outlook and Thunderbird can both be configured to show text only in emails. This stops HTML code from running. You can also get a text-only email program, such as Popcorn. I used Eudora for many years. I currently use Thunderbird.

          I have been on the internet since it started and have never gotten anything through email.

      57. This is strange.

        for the past 2 days, when I open this website, it opens to the article, “Massive Vulnerability Detected In National Power Grid.” It shows that there are only 32 comments. Any recent articles posted since that one are not shown or listed on the left side of the page.

        However, when I click on and open the Power Grid article, it shows 238 comments on that article and lists the other recent articles.

        Is anyone else having this problem?

        • KY Mom…I’ve not only had the problem that you’ve just described, but multiple others as far as thumbs up or down, either not being able to or if I can, then coming back later and it’s as if it didn’t register the 1st time and I have to do it again. I seem to have the most problems giving Braveheart a thumbs up and now most recently DK??? Don’t know why and this is all new…..hasn’t happened before?

        • Kentucky Mom,actually what I have noticed is whether visiting this or other sites feds may not like my speed goes way down as far as loading articles ect.I have seen this for about two weeks and have bitched at ISP provider and said will change as I do have choices.A lot of strange stuff with net in general going on,that said don’t forget what you have learned here and others sites when it goes down,a sure sign of bad times if long term.

      58. I often think of the “crap” that is on TV and in video games now. How old are the folks putting out that garbage? They’re not teenagers. They’re your age, my age. We’re doing this to our own children. Check out the reading list approved for ‘Common Core’. They’re taking us down from within and we never even whimpered.

        • There is no “we” there. Those people are not the same species as we are. NYC and LA are like alien planets.

      59. naaahhh there aint no problems in Detroit

        lol the Chief of Police almost gets Car Jacked..its a dam cop car!..and he doesn’t catch the guy he runs from him… oh and they don’t want us to have guns to protect ourselves either?

        LMFAO..yeah like im ever going out of the house unarmed ever again in my life legally or not..fuck their laws
        they can even stop the car jacing of their own cruisers

      60. #9 is ENTIRELY misleading. The guy was “going down” on the girl in public, she loved it and welcomed it. When he stopped to address the cameras she put his head right back into her vag. That is why the public didn’t do anything and was taking photos and tweeting about it, it was public sex. Then later when she realizes how much of a slut she is she claims it was rape. Are you f**cking kidding me?

      61. No way they are going to crash the system before xmas. Think about it: most sales take place then and it gets the majority of the sheeple good and in debt for the next 6 months of the year, ie: under control. That stuff works and the system is not going to mess with it.

        I predict we are safe for the next couple of years now and the system has enough juice in it to poodle along. There is marginal growth happening (the UK economy is going like gang busters – people buying houses everywhere).

        • Frank didn’t ya know its not poltically correct to use Xmas? the bible thumpers will be on your case for taking Christ out of Christmas. Bible thumpers scare me worse than democrat liberals.

          • Old guy,
            Is that what you call Christians when they touch a guilty nerve ending in you, “Bible thumpers”?

            • I call folks that try to push their beliefs and bring god into every discussion bible thumpers.

              • This article and that comment makes me think that I should be expending a lot more energy into the outreach and discipleship programs at my Church. The darkness isn’t getting any brighter.. perhaps it’s time for those with the real Light to let it shine a little more brighter and a lot more often. Darkness fears the Light because it can not comprehend it. Thanks for helping me make up my mind… 🙂

                • Old Guy, kindly keep your religious bigotry to yourself.

                  All Frank did was use the term “Xmas” in his post. You are the one who made a big deal out of it, using that to push your beliefs on the rest of us, setting up your own controversy and then providing the discussion.

                  • With regards to my reply to Frank. I was being sarcastic. I was trying to beat the religious bigots to the punch. Touchy subject It has caused a few here to be irritated at me. When you let your chain get yanked and become angry your giving someone free rent in your head. Ive never stated my beliefs or disbeliefs.

          • Old Guy… About 2 dozen post earlier YOU stated God given inalienable rights in our constitution. Shit or get off the Pot.

            • Im of the opinion that the rights mentioned in the Bill of Rights where and are not given to the citizens by the framers. I believe they merely outlined what the right,s are. I believe they are inalienable god given rights. That means no laws even when enacted by congress and approved by the supreme court can infringe upont those rights. That why the Obama care should be resisted. It forces the citizenry to engage in commerce. it goes all the way back to the Magna Carta that a person cannot be forced to pay for goods & services he did not order. We have freedom of religion and freedom from religion.

      62. I’d post here…but it keeps saying I’m banned. ha.

        We’ll if this gets though…

        I’m very happy about the collapse.
        I’ve never done better.
        You see I fix fucked up corporations processing data systems.

        Long live the collapse.

        Business is booming…especially with Obummer at the wheel.
        Now he’s in the .com business.

        I am SO laughing at this all.



      63. This anecdotal garbage is pointless. You could pore over a stack of newspapers from the ’60s and put together an article exactly like this one. Not that American society is not worsening, it is. But listing a bunch of stories of people being assaulted in an attempt to paint a particular picture is dumb.

      64. All of you may have noticed that these kinds of things occur in THE CITIES and most notably in the largest cities.

        Now, its statistics time, specifically murder statistics:

        If there were a list of 200 countries in the word ranked from highest to lowest on murders per 100,000, America would be number 3. Thats right:

        1. Some country
        2. Some country
        3. America

        But, if you take out the populations of New Orleans, Chicago, Washington DC and Philadelphia and then recalculate, the list would look like this:

        195. Some country
        196. Some country
        197. America
        198. Some country
        199. Some country
        200. Some country

        Guess what else? Those cities I just mentioned have very tough anti-gun policies for the law abiding under the guise of “fighting crime”.

        Cops and Politicians have made careers out of telling lies to the public about guns and crime. Its their favorite thing to do. They hate guns because they love crime. It makes the population more controllable and dependent. Whats not to like?

        More Guns, Less Crime: Its not just the title of a book anymore!

      65. Theories about “goyim” are absolutely true, as to their revolting nature, as it was at the time of the beginning of Israel! as understanding nothing but payback, elevated wrongly to the Israeli level of a kind of governance that they are eager to get in on, above their rightful subjugation to anywhere’s near such authority, in place of fear. Those thugs don’t have an inkling of the why or whether of grace (reasons) of the world with its sophisticated intelligence of rights that Jesus preached as the savior to. They do get recognizable “status” like an economic lifeblood, but are not experts on anything else whatsoever, and offend justifiable national rights for no reason other than asserted rigid constructs of power (and its personalized smothering) of a most timid of a declining world’s unnecessary peiance to their bizarre return as their heyday and their shame of what else a clockwork libertine society should be doing. Don’t pay those hellraisers undue heed; understand true law first. Love the father, son, and grand twins.

      66. What’s the big deal about the 14 year old slut?

        Most of em dress like lil whores, emulating their favorite ‘pop star’, sexting, etc…

        She had what was coming to her…they all do.

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