100,000 Troops: “Secret, Non-Negotiable Plan” To Start War With U.S., Saudi & Turkish Troops

by | Dec 12, 2015 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 193 comments

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    This article was written by Tyler Durden and originally published at Zero Hedge.

    Editor’s Comment: It is obvious that something else is afoot in Syria and Iraq. ISIS was created for a purpose, and it is becoming more clear that the creation of an entirely new nation-state is underway, that is if Putin isn’t able to stop it from coming to fruition.

    In a normal world, these shaky alliances – which has included creating and funding terrorists who have attacked our own country – would be tantamount to treason and collusion of the highest order. But through the lens of American foreign policy, it is serves a higher purpose for the greater good, and cannot be questioned by domestic dissenters.

    US Has Secret, “Non-Negotiable” Plan To Send 100,000 US, Saudi Troops To Iraq, Lawmaker Claims

    by Tyler Durden

    That rather alarming declaration comes from outspoken Iraqi lawmaker Hanan Al-Fatlawi. Not known for holding her tongue, the Shia MP inflamed sectarian tensions with her eye for an eye tirade in the summer of 2014, prompting Diana Moukalled, the Web Editor at the Lebanon-based Future Television to pen the following sharp rebuke:

    No one will be safe from the worsening situation in Iraq; and many parties are guilty. But for the prime minister [ZH: al-Maliki at the time] and MPs from his coalition to turn the bloody discourse of sectarian violence into an official language is a major moment in history, 10 years into the experiment that is the new Iraq.

    In another infamous TV appearance turned ugly, the firebrand lawmaker was once accused of being an Iranian puppet by a Sunni tribal leader from Anbar (where Iraq is now fighting to wrest control of Ramadi from ISIS). “You should be ashamed of yourselves, a quarter of you came from a broad and you sold Iraq. We don’t know you; who are you? we don’t know your origins. We are not leaders of parties or militias, we are tribal leader and we speak for the people.” he said.

    In January, Fatlawi withdrew from Maliki’s State of Law coalition to form her own political movement called Irada (Arabic for “will”). She’s also suggested – as has Iran – that the US is secretly supporting Islamic State. Here’s an interesting excerpt from an article Huffington Post ran back in March:

    “A lot of events happened in multiple places supporting the opinion that the U.S. in one way or another supports ISIS — giving them food or arms,” Hanan al-Fatlawi, an outspoken Shia member of parliament, said by phone. She has publicly stated that the United States may be secretly throwing its weight behind the extremist Sunni militants who have violently seized control of large swaths of Iraq and Syria. She points to a blast in the restive Anbar province, where Sunni tribesmen are battling ISIS, that killed dozens of Iraqi troops, saying that it was the Americans who killed them. She’s not alone in her views.

    “Many people in Iraq believe me,” she explained. “They believe that ISIS is probably a baby of the USA or a baby of Israel.”

    Al-Fatlawi says she’s suspicious of U.S. involvement in the battle to retake Tikrit that stalled 10 days ago. While Iraqi officials cited the need for more well-trained reinforcements to help clear the heavily booby-trapped city, she has a different story: The United States made Iraqi forces halt the offensive to help ISIS, or so that the Americans could swoop in and save the day, claiming victory as their own.

    Most of all, Al-Fatlawi says, she just can’t believe that the United States, with all of its weaponry, military intelligence and international sway, would have this much trouble taking out ISIS. It just doesn’t add up, she says.


    Well now, Fatlawi contends that according to “information [she] has from inside the meeting,” John McCain last month told PM Haider Al-Abadi that the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE are set to send in a total of 100,000 troops to Iraq. Here’s a screenshot of Fatlawi’s Facebook post:

    And here’s RT with a bit more:

    During a meeting in Baghdad on November 27, McCain told Prime Minister Haider Abadi and a number of senior Iraqi cabinet and military officials that the decision was ‘non-negotiable’, claimed Hanan Fatlawi, the head of the opposition Irada Movement.

    “A hundred thousand foreign troops, including 90,000 from Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan, and 10,000 troops from America will be deployed in western regions of Iraq,” she wrote on her Facebook page.

    She added that the Iraqi prime minister protested the plan, but was told that “the decision has already been taken.”

    As RT goes on to note, that may sound far-fetched but it’s not at all inconsistent with what Lindsey Graham (who joined McCain on the trip said in Iraq and what McCain himself said yesterday in the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing with Ash Carter.

    From Graham last month: “Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey – they have regional armies and they would go into the fight if we put [the removal of] Assad on the table. Most of the fight will be done by the region. They will pay for this war.”

    From McCain on Wednesday: “A small component of American forces with international forces, which could be gathered and then go in and take out this caliphate. If we went in with a large Arab force, with Turks and Egyptians even … there’s 20,000 to 30,000 of them [ISIS fighters], they are not giants.”

    Well guess what? The Turks are already there. They arrived with two dozen tanks near Mosul last Friday.

    “I’ve personally reached out to 40 countries,” Carter told the committee, which is ironic because that’s the exact same number of countries Putin says are supporting ISIS. Here’s WaPo:

     He specifically named the Gulf states, including Saudi Arabia, and Turkey as needing to put more skin in the game. Turkey, Carter said, “must do more” to control its long border with Syria that many ISIS fighters cross undetected, and criticized Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, which had joined “only the air part” of the anti-ISIS campaign in its early days, for becoming “preoccupied” by the conflict in Yemen since.

    Yes, “preoccupied” with the conflict in Yemen, which is of course just a proxy war between Riyadh and Tehran, as is the war in Syria. Interestingly, were the Saudis, the UAE, and Qatar to get overtly (as opposed to the covert support they already provide to various Sunni extremists) involved in Iraq, it would be yet another attempt to rollback Iranian influence.

    As we’ve said all along, all of these conflicts are part and parcel of a Mid-East power struggle between Russia and Iran on one side, and the US, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf states on the other (see here, here, and here). Recall this map which shows Moscow and Tehran encircling the Saudis:

    ISIS is simply everyone’s excuse for participating in what amounts to a world war. All that’s needed to take the “proxy” out of this regional proxy war is for Iran to get overtly involved in Yemen, for Russia to get the airstrike invite from Baghdad, and for the Gulf states to bring planes and troops to Iraq.

    You can see why a Shiite lawmaker in Baghdad would be hypersensitive to a plan that allegedly involves an invasion by 100,000 US and Gulf troops.


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      1. Sounds like you better get your kids over there to fight for our freedom asap!

        • All wars are Bankster wars. Tell those pieces of shit running Washington and taking the world to war to go fight themselves. They started it, now let them finish the job. McCain is one evil Mofo.

          • “She has publicly stated that the United States may be secretly throwing its weight behind the extremist Sunni militants who have violently seized control of large swaths of Iraq and Syria”

            Like Iran, Iraq enjoys some of the largest oil & gas deposits in the world. Did she really think the USA was going to allow Shiite Iran to control Iraqi oil & gas as well as their own???

            Did you ??? LMAO !!! This war is good for the global MIC and another 15 years; buy Defense stocks. 🙂

          • For all of you who are “making a list and checking it twice” …..

            ht tp//theglobalelite.org

            Make sure when you go hunting your sights are on the TRUE group that is ruining the world. Article has it all wrapped up in a pretty package for you.

            Be sure to check out Mark’s comment at the end of the article.

        • Watch the ANP video of the little Spanish children hitting the Donald trump piñata . Gotta love those brown people?

          • Spanish children?
            Mexicans are not spanish.

            • Skeptic, true, they are undocumented citizens 🙂

      2. Oh yay. 10000 american troops, American Missles at a million a piece courtesy of the U.S. Taxpayer, American tanks at x millions a piece courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer, American bullets, guns, and artillery at close to billion dollars courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer.

        End Result. ISIS oil off of the market. Shell Oil (Rothschild) and Saudi Oil free to raise prices back up to 120 plus per barrel.

        And finally, we the U.S. taxpayer get to resume paying 4.50 plus per gallon of gas at the pump.

        Go Johnny and Lindsey Go.

        • it’s a good thing we are the “richest nation in the world”!, so we can tax the people another few hundred billion to PAY for it all…

      3. Since it’s a secret plan lets not tell anyone about it.

        Just keep it between ourselves.

      4. It’s a, don’t know whether to shit or go blind moment.

        Fucking unbelievable.

        • Slingshot,
          Our scumbags in office have sold us down the river so many times and the DAMN sheeple cannot seem to open the f—- eyes and unless we have a real civil unrest that goes deep enough to purge the white house and or a military coup and still purge the white house we are screwed!

          • No worries really. We The People are “people of conviction” and just “don’t cotton” to folks suddenly coming into the picture wanting to control us @ 100%.
            *Of course the traitors/invaders want to denude us of all firearms. It is well known the first thing you must do before ‘taking on’ a nation in battle (or a people), is to first take away their guns (on other pretenses, which historically have all been 100% manufactured lies …followed shortly by mega-millions of deaths). Um, that’s not a ‘road’ that any of us with to go down, and so the only remaining answer is to enact everything The Founding Fathers gave us “as tools” to bring down (forever) a government that they somehow KNEW would eventually turn tyrannical. Amazing foresight and I am thankful for their foresight (as it’s the last chance we’ll have to set matters straight once again).
            The “militias” (I am speaking of the folks who have guns but no military training), are to seek out those that they KNOW are ex-combat veterans …and “pick their brains” while letting them teach YOU how to fight MOST effectively (and when to run too)! lol… Marines call it “Advance To The Rear!”
            The “Organized Militia” (Veterans of combat and ‘the like’ from the civilian sector …like supposedly all Constitutional Sheriffs or anyone that has a good deal of combat training (of a sort) would essentially (and will essentially) lead “all others” into each place that needs tearing down. My guess is that DC would be a ghost town upon our arrival …but you’ll need to expect ‘tactics’ like that to be employed against us …and fully expect at least one person in your midst to know how to extract them while preventing ambush during the ‘engagement’.
            Since “We The People” with our terrible guns seem to be holding up the ENTIRE PLANET of idiots who wish to fall under somebody’s RULE (really? ..they WANT IT?), these same anti-gun idiots aren’t doing us any favors regarding the “towel heads in our midst already” (Sleeper Cells exist in all 50 states …extremely heavy in Californ-I-A (but of course)! The only way they can annihilate us is very plain indeed. Hand-to-hand face-to-face battles until each one has been stricken down. The great news is that by all “counts” of the past few months we seem to be “ammo AND firearms” heavy …not to mention we far outnumber the bastards (no matter how many ‘bastards’ are sent, if any). It is a GIVEN that if our POTUS saw any viable reason to he would attempt to impose Martial Law. (DO NOT COMPROMISE YOURSELF TO THE LIMITATION OF MARTIAL LAW BECAUSE YOU LOSE ALL RIGHTS)! In other words, the sudden outbreak of civil unrest would indeed cause DC to issue (in the name of safety) A State Of Martial Law. Then, house by house all doors get kicked down (whether or not you first enjoy a shootout with them), and they (at least) take every you have that they want (Bullets, beans and bandaids, jewelries, perhaps a bit of sex from your daughter(s) …some will be shot for unknown reasons, and then again, just as many will NOT be …such as if they are chosen to be a ‘slave’ or ‘donor’ …isn’t it fascinating how we are just NOTHING but “things” for them to do with as they wish? WOW it blows my mind how insanely arrogant, a lot like Obama in fact, that they sob’s are. If they fight like they think this will be a piece of cake, and running off all politicians forever …we only need to scare them shitless and they’ll never be heard from again. (Not now that the entire world can easily see what “they” have been silently building up to prepare for and then attempt to deploy their ‘Agendas’). Slingshot …I have every reason to believe we are going to have “unrest” unlike history has ever seen before …and the purging of the WH is #1 on the list …all other buildings to follow I suppose if it’s to be done rightly. But, we do not wish to ‘start’ a thing until they have clearly ‘over-reached’ far enough to “justifiably” waltz in and ‘clear out that bar of theirs’. (Then, we should ship a shitload of guns to Australia and get them out of THEIR hole their gov made for them, under the guise of over a billion in lies).

            • Outstanding post, Equorial. Very true and knowledgeable. Thank you.

              • Great post, Equorial!

                I’ve left a link above for a patriots wish list.

            • Equorial

              We Prep and Wait.

              Aye, Aye.

        • How about a blind Lib taking a dump?

          • How about the powers that be behind that “blind Lib” taking a short leap off of a long cliff.

            Lets start to hone in on who the real enemy behind those libs are. Cut off the head of the snake; once and for all.

            • How about shooting that ‘blind lib’ in the ass?

        • Very unbelievable

          • Just because I like a ball game . Doesn’t mean I’m an idiot . It just looks that way.

            • No, you’re an idiot all right, ball games have nothing to do with it.

        • We are not shaking hands we are not making amends across the party lines . We are at war .. Bimbos be ware. It’s party time . And you our our special guest. Cant wait on meet your husband.

      5. What a great way to deplenish our troops in the states in order to set us up for a massive attack (probably starting from within and with help from without), leaving us without much military protection. Amazing.

      6. The bad side of all this is that the bastards have no follow through. They can never finish the job to the point there is no more threat. Until they beat them so far down to the point they will never do the shit they are doing now, it will continue forever. Whatever the outcome I do want those who think they are immune to all this death and destruction to be brought to trial so that shit don’t happen again. Corporations CEO’s, politicians and these Billionaires who think they can screw the world over with their money.

        The world has been unable to figure out how to live together. So it will need a bigger war than ever to knock it to its knees. Then it must be able not to choose the road back that will further enslave itself.

        I believe we are on the verge of another Dark Age.

      7. It’s like watching a pot of water come to a boil. First, the rustle in the surface waters, then the little bubbles clinging to the sides. Then a few bubbles escaping to the top… then a full roiling boil. Added troops from this or that country are all meant to “balance” the situation, but all it’s going to do is contribute to more dangerous encounters. Too many cooks in the kitchen.
        Assad is horrible… a horrible person who has hospitals full of sadist guards ripping people apart at the bottom of the hill where his palace sits. But, that is for his country and young men to overthrow and fix. ISIS is only a problem because there is a vacuum of leadership among the young… who you see jostling to get to the EU countries by hook or crook for a benefits package. What a mess.

        • Mr Assad is not anything like you say and you have been taken in by fake news propaganda.

          Most of his people love him and if that was not the case then he would had been killed years ago.

          He is now fighting a war that we started in his country so Israel can try to steel more land so yes he is now having to kill people but thats too be exspected.

      8. These fools believe they can manipulate and use Islam. They are going to end up unifying the region and ultimately will create an Islamic superpower. Muslims hate the West, after an adventure like this they will hate the US all the more.

        The US is bankrupt, give away the last of our military stockpiles in these adventures, and we will be toothless, and broke. Global warming regulations, laws and treaties destroy the US energy infrastructure while leaving the Islamic world with a total monopoly on world energy. What could possibly go wrong?

        This is not going to end well.

        • I agree with you!!!

        • what indeed . well said

      9. Since when did Facebook become the all reliable source of military secrets?

        • …since we started running out of clickbait.

        • I thought the same thing John S.


        • You mean DATABASEBOOK?

          • Genius, that’s right. If you want to do a background check on someone, going to their facebook page is one option. Anyone who’s stupid enough to put all their ‘personal and confidential’ information on there deserves whatever is coming to them. I never use social media for anything.

            • Ditto that Brave!!!

              • Same here Nemesis… Oh damn,that’s what this forum is,my bad…

                • Facebook makes Dave Hodges and Alex Jones look good. On a more positive note, I went to a gun show yesterday and replaced one of my two favorite pistols taken in the home invasion. I’m in much better spirits now and will soon have the second favorite replaced also. things are looking up. I feel so good that I’ll even let trolls’ stupid remarks slide for now.

            • Unless you are a radicalized terrorist. Then Facebook is obviously the safest place to rant because no one wants to catch you…

        • What’s Facebook?

      10. Watch this Video for a better idea…

        Time to go back to School, to understand the other side ? possibly the new majority….
        Muslim Brotherhood’s plan & Obama connection exposed… – YouTube


      11. What if ALL of the military troops just quit and refused to fight?
        Ultimately it may take something like that to get the attention these situations need/deserve.

        • scott, first you have to unglue their lips off the asses of the order givers and re educate them to not be blind order followers. A pretty monumental task if you ask me. They might get in trouble ya know….

      12. I’m an agnostic, but I’ll be dammed if every day this shit doesn’t sound more and more like Armageddon.

          • It’s not headbanging music it’s kind of laid back good stuff but a lil repetetive, you might like it!

            • A lot of wah peddle and phase shifter effects (god I miss my morley power wah). I remember when I was a kid using my morley and a wire clothes hanger to imitate Jimmy Page and his violin bow act. Aaaah the good ol days 🙂

              • Speaking of bands, I have had a Yeasty Boy concert goin on with special guest Brown Sugar for 2 weeks now and still playing. I wish they would finish up for hells sake so I can see the encore performance 😛

          • Genius..

            Thanks much, dude. Great album & good music.

            That said, I’ve got one for you..seeing how you’ve taken some flak..in the past, I submit the following ‘southern-truth’ against those who trash you…Enjoy (w/ a country-rock overture): (remove space & don headphones)!!

            ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVnWOUR7NQE

            • Hunter, ha ha ha you know I could care less about people so called “trashing” me. I can wipe my ass with everyone of them. What I say IS the truth and they cannot refute it, just spout some dumb ass remarks but when I call them out they seem to disappear lol. I will watch the vid thank you. Good to see a fellow obscure music lover!

              • ha ha ha, That was fookin great! I have a new favorite band lol! Damn hunter, why haven’t I heard that before, what a classic! Looks like they got some other good ones too! Thanks Bro! 🙂

              • Genius, I eat trolls for breakfast.

                • More like get eaten for breakfast, you can never refute what they say about you because it’s the truth.

              • The REAL reason that we seem to ” disappear” is our replies to you get censored, that’s why. You don’t know the half of what’s been said to you, you can thank Mac for protecting you.

                • Bill and anon, both of you are full of shit, so behave or I’ll get acid after both of you.

            • Don’t know where you have been hiding Hunter, but we sure do miss your posts.

              • Mm-day>

                In truth, some of my stuff makes it thru…some doesn’t.

                …moderation appears nothing more than “Probation” for 1st amendment advocates.

        • Kevin2

          We damn well can scorch the sky, burn the earth, contaminate the water to the point that we will learn how to live by watching others die.

          • Where is HCKS? Isn’t his planet supposed to visible by now??

        • Armageddon will be ten times what this Syrian/Iraq/WW3 based war is.

          Mac says: “…. that is if Putin isn’t able to stop it from coming to fruition.”

          There is a battle coming that concerns Putin and must happen prior to Armageddon. it is the Ezekiel 38/39 battle that causes the supernatural deaths of 5/6ths of those “federations” of armies. We are not close to that battle yet, but it is coming in the near future.

          No one can stop a biblical prophesied war that eventually takes out one third of the men of war. This may be the early stages of this Rev. 9, war. Some say this means a third of the earth’s population will die, but I am skeptical that it goes that far, unless it is coupled with EMPs, on many different Continents.

          Rev 9:18
          By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

          This is the swarming and consuming by the “locust” army upon the earth. it is a combination of Islamic armies and demonic armies that reside within the earth now, that have been retained by God for this specific time. The world will see them as alien armies from the outer regions of space, but they are the hybrid, wondering souls of the giants; without flesh. Only God can kill them. They are not space creatures.

          Many men from the Black and Caucasian races will die in this war based in the Middle East as well. it will be an “us against them” type war. Their goal is world dominance through Islam, and it’s radical heathen ideology. That is why they have a goal and agenda to infiltrate the west with 100 million young male muslims, and a few million of radicalized women.

          This is part of the second woe, so there is still a third woe to come. The third woe is when Satan is booted out of Heaven to return to earth fulfilling the role of Antichrist, for what I believe, as a short time; definitely shortened from the original three and one half years from Daniel’s days.

          Even the last battle/war, that is called Armageddon, doesn’t cause the deaths of a third of the earth’s population. This war that takes out “the third part of men”, is not Armageddon, because Christ comes for the battle of Armageddon as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and the battle of battles, is over at this point, as “all” the heathen armies are killed by His two edged sword of His mouth. No more wars, ever. No more flesh, ever. This age is finished at that point.

          • This is the most cogent and ‘gently'(non-rageful) straight-forward explanation I have ever read. Your clarity is most helpful in understanding this long-prophesied, oft-discussed or bandied-about event. I still remember my Rev 15:3 passage from when I was 5 and in Vacation Bible School. It comes to me every so often and I never quite got the context or significance. I was 5 and reciting a learned passage in a ‘scary’ book with little grasp of it.
            Suddenly I begin to understand it all. Thank you.

            • If the seals have started to be opened, we are only at the second seal in Rev6:3.
              The third seal looks to be world wide famine or economic collapse of currency. A day’s wage for your daily bread.

              • Thanks for responding and posing the possibilities of the seals meanings in Rev 6.

                This is one of the most widely misunderstood chapters of Revelation, because of the contradiction of the trumps and seals associated with how Christ laid them out in Matthew 24.

                Some even teach/preach that 6:2 is a picture of Christ’s return.
                Out of ignorance they teach this incorrectly, and most would be appalled at themselves if they could see the truth in this verse.
                The key, as in a lot of the KJV bible, is taking certain words back to the original Hebrew or, as in this case, the Greek manuscript meaning. This is not a bow as in “bow and arrows”, but is in reference to a rainbow.

                It is “not” a true rainbow, however; but, a cheap or simplest of fabrics.
                In other words it is a cheap fabrication of the rainbow that is of God’s making. It is around the master of deception and fools the unlearned and deceived, as it “appears” as a rainbow to them.

                Therefore, he is the cheap imitator of Christ, the Antichrist. He is still coming at the sixth seal, sixth trump, and with the pouring out of the sixth vile/bowl. Hence the number of his name is 666.

                To spell it out in simple terms, the seals given in Rev. 6 are given/revealed to John, in the order of “importance”, and not in chronological order.

                We are at the beginning of the Third Seal because as you say, it is the collapse of the world economic system, which is hinged on currency in a capitalist society. it has to collapse for the World Beast system to come to fruition and a digital currency with it.

                Coincidentallly, we are at the peak beginning influence of the Fourth Seal as it is all about the Pale/Green Horse, which is a reference to Islam and it’s connection to Death, Hell, and Demonic activity. Millions have been killed thus far in the past thousand or so years, in the name of Muhammed and allah. It gets worse from here.

                The red Horse is another demonically controlled portion of history, that aligns with current and future events as is related to Communisim/Facism/Dictatorship……etc.
                Count up all the deaths attributed to these demonically controlled madmen.

                We are actually deep into the fifth seal here in Rev 6.
                Just before the most important event unfolds as described in 6:2, the sixth seal unfolds along with it, which is described in 6: 12 thru 15.

                Verses 16 and 17 describes a peak at the Seventh and last trump as in respect to the return of our Holy Saviour, The Lamb Slain for all humanity. True Christians will be able to stand up to His Great wrath because He is not mad at us and we have nothing to fear but fear itself. It will be a glorious time for us when He comes in the clouds, after the Impostor has already been revealed as the fake, with his pre-trib rapture lie.
                Who hides in caves and mountains, and begs for them to fall on them? The deceived ones that followed the mega church preachers, that had them on board, and in bed with Satan as he played the role of Christ returned, with a rapture doctrine to release them of the terrible tribulations as they unfold. He can’t free them from the bondage he has put them in.

                If one doesn’t believe it happens this way; just hang on a few more years and see how it unfolds. it will amaze the deceived as to what is about to transpire in the coming decade, or so.

                Too many luke warm christians are only wanting to hear a prosperity and self indulgent message. Here is what Christ says about them….

                Rev 3:16
                So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

                Not a good place to be when the flesh life is over. Maybe people like Dave, will get a severe chastisement on his person before it is too late, and humble himself before his Maker. Turn before you burn people.

                • Passin, you HOPE I’ll get some type of punishment only because I call you out on all your lies. If it comes from your mouth, it’s a lie. You’ve demonstrated this fact time and time again, whenever you open your mouth. You’ve told so many bullshit stories here only an idiot could believe them, or make them up. You can’t even stay away from here after the big production you made last month about leaving, don’t bother to refute this, it’s in the archives.

            • May the Father bless you with understanding, as your thirst for truth evolves. Thanks, so very much for your kind words. Each and every kind word is noticed from above.

          • So Passin, what the Hell happened to your big exit you made such a big deal about last month? Remember, you were moving on to better things as ” God” told you it was time for you to go? I think most of us knew it was bullshit, you wouldn’t stay gone for long unfortunately, you probably bored the fuck out of everybody at the last website you were at with all your major league bullshit stories you can’t stop from spinning ad nauseum. So now, with nowhere else to haunt, you’re back with your trumpets of doom and despair. So what happened, did ” God” tell you he made a mistake and wanted you to come back here after your major Hamlet performance last month? This should prove once and for all for everybody that nothing you ever say is true, after your last speech when you left you were supposedly finished with this site forever, well, looks like forever is only a little more then a month isn’t it?

            • FYI, I never moved on to another website.
              I never said i was never coming back here again.
              I never made a big exit for your types, just on behalf of my friends. You are an enemy, oh Dave that puts words in peoples mouths.
              I have been writing my books.
              I have been researching.
              I have been involved with a grass roots christian preppers project.
              I just stopped by… to see what condition my condition was in.

              Btw…Thanks Agent, I have thought about you as well, but i’m not back. Too busy with other more important aspects of life.
              I will stop back by once in a while though as the spirit leads me. Good blessings my friend, and have a Merry Christmas!

              • Thanks passin, see you here from time to time then I hope.
                Take care bud and enjoy the Christmas feast.

          • OK, my testing post went into moderation..so this might make the board..

            Passin, I thought you said goodbye and were off to take over Billy or Franklin Graham’s ministry or something like that.
            Anyway, I do admire one thing about you and that is you are a seeker and a believer.
            But in so many ways you are so wrong it’s painful. To think everything in the Bible and Old Testament is relative to today is something to behold.
            You read and attempt (in your own words) to glean some deep meaning that in your estimation is something we should believe will occur in the present or near future. You are no teacher.
            I won’t use the term Bible thumper, but really, it’s damn close to that. You say you make your own whiskey and grow your own smoke, man of God, huh? Sorry if I attribute that to you wrongly, but I believe you said it.

            I’d like to give you some reference material that was written in the last century and is much more current in regards to the search for God.
            I tend to doubt you will use any of these references. I have a good friend who is a strong believer just like you and I gave him a copy of an incredible book (“Leave Your Nets”)about God 5 years ago and he has yet to pick it up. Why?

            Because in his mind, the Bible is all he needs. And that may be, but is it just his comfort, his crutch? If he or yourself do not want to learn anything new, well, it’s your (and his) choice.

            Pick up any book by Joel S. Goldsmith. If you never heard of him it’s for a reason. He wanted no organization, period.
            One of his best is called “Leave Your Nets”, ca. 1964, only 150 pages. Of priceless wisdom.
            One quote, pg. 16, “And so it is useless to pray any prayer in the sense of a desire to get, to accomplish, to achieve, or to demonstrate.”
            “The only legitimate prayer that will be left to us is a “thank you, Father”, and a sitting in the silence in sweet communion with the gentle Presence that is already within our own being.”

            Another of his books that you would benefit from and one that I haven’t read is titled, “Spiritual Interpretation of Scripture.”
            Goldsmith made a point of keeping your spiritual search for God to yourself and no one else. If you don’t do that, the human ego gets in the way.

            Here’s another nugget, from a different source:
            referring to God, “Whoever knows does not speak; whoever speaks, does not know..”
            “It is beyond love and hate, beyond profit and loss, beyond honor, and dishonor. Thus, it is the most valuable treasure in all the world.”
            By Lao Tse, 2,500 years ago.”The Book of Tao” Key to the Mastery of Life, translation by Frank J. MacHovec, 1962, and 62 pages.

            Then there are the works of Philip Wylie, “The Magic Animal”, and Robert S deRopp, “The Master Game”.
            The Master Game has some revealing nuggets in it but be aware it was written in the mid 60’s and it’s context is an answer to the mind expanding drug craze prevalent at the time. (Many people believed God appeared to many through LSD.)But still a compelling read, especially the part about dying with no loss of consciousness.
            Ok, I’m done now.

            • So this post above was in “Moderation” for 6 or 7 HOURS.
              First post in moderation in about 2 months. Addressed to Passin, it’s now well beyond it ‘use by’ date.
              If this isn’t censorship, then it’s called something else.
              Like “let’s delay this comment because we don’t like it”.

              • Ketchup:

                You are not the only one it is happening to. You can bash the police, blacks, muzzies, etc., but be careful you do not include the REAL enemy that is destroying the world…..you might find yourself banished forever.

                • noooooooooooooo 🙁

            • Just happened upon your mindless blather addressed to me.
              and…yes you do have me confused with someone else about the whiskey and smoke thing. I said i used to partake of those things a few decades ago.

              You are entitled to your on opinions based on your ideology concerning “mans” writings. Man’s writings and ramblings only get my attention if they align with God’s Word, that can’t be proven wrong.

              God owns everyone and everything. You only own freewill, and therefore you make your own destiny based on your freewill and free speech.

              I will not apologize for speaking as the Holy Spirit guides me.
              My concern is what God and my Saviour thinks of me, so your opinions are about as useless as the post from eppe about anal hairs.

              Furthermore; you and the other trolls/liars, don’t have to worry about me sticking around on your sinking ship of fools, and showing you up for the ass clowns that you are.

              From what I have gathered in glassing over the topics that have been posted over the last couple weeks…..there are only about a dozen or so regular posters that keep the forum going. If they disappeared it would look pretty bleak for the advertisers.

              The majority want substance and truth, and can tell the difference. They are now getting a lot of meaningless jibber-jabber from the majority that post here. You and Genius are two of the worst. Dave (troll) and slingshot are revolving doors, that are bringing up the rear. You people do a disservice to Mac for all he has put into this site. Your types do an injustice to the site period, and run off more people than you keep interested.

              You folks have fun, even if that is all you are getting here, cause the real enemy is still lurking and it is demonic and doesn’t always go by -ew, as some want you to believe.

              • Passin, just as I figured. You are incapable of learning anything new.
                Stick to your old testament, the sorry comfort blanket that it is to you.
                Go find more foolish, ignorant idiots that will believe the ancient meaningless garbage that you seem to find is relevant to modern times.
                At the very least, read Leave Your Nets. (Jesus said that, did ya know?)
                But you won’t.

                • Ketchupondemand. Religious zealots, of whatever persuasion (Christian/Jew/Muslim etc.,) do not see reason, hence all our problems dealing with them.

                  I did compare pissin in the wind to a psycopath in response to one of his deranged rants. He does show all the classic symptoms of a sociopath and I do worry for his neighbours/family.

                  Even more of a concern is he actually garners support from some misguided souls here!

          • I’ve missed you passin.

            Welcome back good friend.

            Every army needs a pastor.

          • PWTW, welcome back.

            • Good to see your voice Brave. Just visiting and taking a break from other work for the day. Merry Christmas, brother Dave.

              • PWTW, Merry Christmas to you if you don’t make it back here by then.

          • PWTW, please give me your definition of armageddon, I seriously doubt you even know what it means…

            • Duh? You seem to know everything already, so why even ask unless you are just doing your usual bs, and trying to play one-upmanship.

              • The reason I ask is because you keep talking about it in the wrong sense. I see you didn’t answer by the way.

      13. If you do not agree to fight for the fascists, then you do not have to be worried about history treating you NO DIFFERENT than the Nazi’s of genocidal Germany, and you will get to keep your soul. If you agree to fight for these New World Order monsters and their agenda, then you deserve everything you get being a fascist boot licker, and your soul has been sold to pure evil.

        • Hey Ron, could you be, won’t you be my neighbor 🙂

          • Nope Genius, he is already spoken for….

            • It’s a wonderful day in the neighborhood!

      14. Good we need a lot of house cleaning. So be it.

      15. I’m finding it harder every day to give a dam about my fellow man mostly woman. They are back stabbing rats. Can’t wait to politically corect their ass.. It won’t be pretty.. Say by by bimbo.

        • If I would take a wild guess, Your divorced and got taken to the cleaners? But what do I know. It happened to me almost 40 years ago. Not all women are bimbos as not all guys are assholes. Cheers

          • Not all most. Minorities single mothers gov. Employees put him In power . So what’s your plan?

        • sounds like you haven’t been laid in a long time, I wonder why.

      16. I’m offended: I think!

      17. All this shit really does sound like Armageddon. Stick a fork in me; I’m done.

      18. Law and order. Mass suicide. Bimbos rule. Safety laws. You know what I mean time to clean house big time. F your young and stupids .no more wiggle room. By by little rat.

        • Ok, tell your nurse you want to be sedated now because you’re going to soil your underwear again. No wonder you get so nutzoid, spending way too much time wearing dirty diapers.

          • Brilliant y y.

          • Typical liberal pervert response.

          • YY must be a new troll. HO HUM.

            • Braveheart, if you think that pointing out the fact that this drooling nutcase lone wolverine isn’t a raving nut then you obviously haven’t read any of his idiotic drivel. Or if you have and think that pointing this out makes me a troll, you’re every bit as stupid as you sound. If these types are your friends that you feel the need to defend, then you’re as sick as he is.

              • YY, go f#$5 yourself and move along.

      19. Next up: Saudi oil fields get nuked with KH-102s fired from a ghost container ship, which also gets nuked?

        I think I’ve read this book. Doesn’t end well.

        • That sounds good for my business, we need something to tighten up the oil supply!!!

        • Seems to me that all of whatever Obama is doing could be stopped immediately with little to no effort needed. Just wet his lips really good and stick him to a mirror. By the time he frees himself his agenda will have been foiled? …just an idea is all.

      20. “You should be ashamed of yourselves, a quarter of you came from a broad and . . . ”

        We ALL came from “a broad,” (in the vernacular)

        So much for intelligent proofing.

      21. Genius …you are so right….the one percent have this thing they use ….patriotism…they pump you up and they harvest your children …YOU the working class to use the blood of our children to put more money and power in their possession…Hello …wake up people …we are right they are wrong ..let them send their children to rule the land not ours …we are too smart to fall for this anymore. Question all you have been told …go with what you feel deep inside. BREAK FREE and take care of those you love

        • Thomas Jefferson himself couldn’t have said it so eloquently, Grizz!

      22. How dumb are the voters in Arizona for putting McCain in office over and over again, they must be fogged out. Voting is useless, obvious fixed elections have stolen the peoples vote. It’s just a constant stream of shifty shitty lying blowhards paraded out in the freak show illusion of an idea of something new. Disgusting that the American people just go along to get along while they are being reduced to unwanted enemies and troublesome dissenters who must be silenced.

        • All voting is rigged. How else would they win?

          • Lone, el correcto!

        • …So accurately described, aljamo!

      23. They can’t get us to fight with each other so the are going to do it in the Middle-East.

        When in the Hell will the sheeple wake up and see that Obullshit is the ruination of the country!!!! How “F”ing blind are they?

        Oh well I’m prepped!!!!


        • Sgt Dale

          The problems in the US started before Obama and unfortunately will continue after he leaves office. The final nail in the economic coffin occurred with NAFTA, China Free Trade and the demise of Glass-Steagall. Knocking off Middle East dictators that held almost omnipotent internal power and kept it away from Islamic fanatics created a vacuum that was filled with them. Using them as proxy forces to repeat the process upon other nations for the international business / financial establishment has blowback that we and the world now feel. Interestingly, the powers that be that really control things could care less about the collateral damage of terrorism. If anything they use it to obtain even more power.

          The problem isn’t Obama or the Bushes or any other political leader here and abroad but rather the globalist financial establishment that is in control. Its not what you see that the problem but what you don’t.

          • K2, Yep just lift up obamas skirt and see whos hand is up there running that poopet lol.

            • Genius

              I suspect that the closest President in modern times to influence real policy decisions was GH Bush. He had, I presume over time, actually moved beyond a hired hand and became a confidant of the inner circle similar to Kissinger. In essence a hired hand that they actually listen too rather than just dictate. His inability to sell policy necessitated their change to Clinton. Slick Willy sold NAFTA to organized labor. Thats like getting KKK members to buy tickets to a Black Panthers BBQ.

              • K2, yep the shrub #1 is def. in tight with the global cartel. Can you tell me why these evil bastards seem to live forever? Oh ya because the cartel has the cures for the diseases they employ against the masses….

                • Generally they’re healthy men that took care of themselves. I know lots of people living to their ages that made their living in an unhealthy environment. These guys got top medical care that was preemptive.

                  They live the best, they get the best, you generally live longer.

                  • Steve Jobs

                    • Steve Jobs could have been unlucky. Then again with his power, influence and anti establishment attitude with todays technology he might have been offed.

          • Hey Kevin do you have any websites you would recommend for further reading on what your talking about? Too many crazies on here so it’s nice to hear someone articulate their thoughts in a manner that makes sence and dosent come across as a paranoid schizophrenic wrote it.

        • Are you talking about race wars when you say “They can’t get us to fight with each other”

          The race trigger is fully working and they give it a little test now and then just to make sure in the USA and when it gets used for real then the whole country will go up.

          CNN most likly already have fake news thats been recorded and show blacks burning white people alive en-mass or whites driving over blacks in trucks that are tied up in the roads.

          Sure you can go out in your streets and scream that its all one big set up and end up getting killed by your own side so thats one less 401k to pay out.

          You ain’t seen noffing yet.

        • There will not be an ‘awakening’ of The Sheeple. Simply put, “the people” (many of them) are completely controlled by The Media, magazines and zillions of other things that have been injected into the USA for the sole purpose of “ruination” being the end result. This “wondering” that everyone speaks of is simply “brain control” …and these folks, starting with K-1, are trained to ‘follow the bouncing ball’ and thus are easily convinced to go the way of those influencing them …doesn’t matter even if it means being led to their death …they’ll do it blindly. (That’s why PyOps are such an ‘inbred’ part of Intel …if not the most important aspect). Your parents used a form of PyOps to “grow you up to be a good person” (hopefully). The entire Federal government is using the very same stuff in a “never-attempted-before-in-history” to take down an entire country and way of life – – all to ensure they’ll not get screwed out of their wish to control all that exists, people included. Have money will murder?
          Our last chance is for those who still have weapons and brains and chose NOT to watch TV for the past 20 years or so. Veterans, “good” cops (many are veterans to boot). It ain’t over till it’s over

      24. Folks we all are YOYO (your on your own) from this point in time now on. Good luck friends. Anyone have home defense idea’s to share?

        • Eat a lot of beans?

          • Ha ha good one! Give the dog some too 😉

        • Besides what has been posted here I would say “Don’t answer the door!” lol

          • What about all doors? …And windows! The whole house! Why are you sitting still in a target for them to hit?

            • Because I’m sitting here building up a methane bomm (the dog is too) Just waiting to use my lighter so we can all go BOOM together 🙂

        • Infidel- the best defense is to look ordinary and hide. Cinder block closets at the back of the pantry, spare bedroom, etc. Most homes have small closets in secondary bedrooms, but many don’t. So it would not be something intruders would look for if they entered a room with a bureau and bed. You have sheet rocked over that doorway and made a crawl way behind that chest of drawers. You’ve rigged a rope to pull the furniture back in place after you’re in. Marauders want to do a quick looksee and move on. They don’t want to be moving furniture. We have deadbolts on some interior doors. We have diversion foodstuffs and some beverages that will make intruders sorry they drank them. But, the best thing you can have people think about your place is that it’s already been ransacked and that nobody is there. I figure marauders will get tired of burning down houses after 90 days of fun. Cities will be safer than suburbs then, as the main city rats will be drinking Korbel in their idea of suburban paradise. They and the folks that are rife for a firefight will be cancelling each other out very quickly. I expect city rats to claim territory quickly in the two suburban rings of every major city and not to get very far out. If you are an ordinary, decent person and you don’t get at least 30-50 miles out of the major cities pretty soon, you will be toast when shtf. As to small town rural areas, these have similar issues but more easily resolvable by common sense preps. As a former city dweller I can say that transparency is key in small towns. You are the most boring, least interesting person around. And you make yourself that on purpose.

          • You haven’t considered the possibility that all major roads going into and out of “metros” will either be blown away or blocked in some manner (“impassible” for whatever reason)?
            I don’t plan on leaving my road “passable” in the least (unless you have a big plow truck loaded with weight for traction).
            Thoughts anyone? I’ve always been ‘country’ ….never much lived where it was remotely ‘crowded’ (meaning: in my post-military days).

        • infidel-2
          we are being monitored more and more ,so allot of us are not wanting to say or talk about specific things such as home defense, because it might be a way for them to single us out, i would suggest, getting some books that are still available, such as “the ultimate guide to u.s. special forces, skills tactics and techniques” by Jay McCullough, it may give you some pointers.

        • Yea fill a super soaker with gas and styrofoam .

          • Lone Wolverine;
            Your post brings up a prepper tip. Our home has very steep roof pitches and several stories. I flipped an atv with a tank on the back trying to get around and spray the roof for moss that was accumulating. My dear wife went to town and bought a super soaker water gun and came back and sprayed the moss killing agent to all parts with no risk of life and limb. Her words to me– Mission Accomplished!

        • I-2
          a great Coach once said “A Great Defense is a Great Offence!”


      25. Infidel-2

        Lots of different ways. Depending on location for one.

      26. Lil grizz have you ever watched the marine recruits training on tv. They do pump them up on the hero shit. Be a us marine blah blah what a crock of shit. Your absolutely right about the hero shit. I saw a bunch of scared kids trying to do their best fearing punishment. The gov is the master of the fear mongering game. I’m no psychologist but fear seems to change people’s behavior in profound ways. I love freedom like everyone else but don’t have to be a troop to fight evil. Brother was a infantry marine and told me all about it. He said they sparred daily and you sometimes didn’t feel like fighting. He said you cannot tell a bunch of marines you don’t feel like fighting today. This was coming from a guy that was all about kicking people’s asses. Definetly a special breed.

        • I say that you are one of the sheeple. You never grew a pair. You lurk in the shadows and “hold your manhood cheap.” You simply hope that no one will notice.

          The No. 1 threat to the American homeland is not Russia. It is these Haji towel heads. I say bomb the living crap out of those Jihadi sonsabitches. Send in boots on the ground and go in and blow their Jihadi asses to “Paradise.”

          In case you are interested, you piece of millenial excrement, I was a Marine and I volunteered to go to Vietnam. What did you ever do but play “Call of Duty?”

          • survivormann

            The US is aiding this.

            Saudi gets control of the oil and doesn’t mess with the Oil Peg / US Reserve Currency status.

            Like your war its all sold for reasons that are ostensible. Kids die for the global corporate elite while its touted as Freedom, Security and Democratic self rule.

            • To paraphrase JFK, we should be willing to “go anywhere, and pay any price” to get rid of these radical Muslim pieces of crap.

              Obama has sat on his hands and done nothing after he pulled us out of Iraq and created the void for ISIS to exploit. These Jihadist will not end their efforts in the Middle East.

              I gotta tell you one thing. It warmed the cockles of my heart to see those San Bernardino cops turned out fully armed with combat assault gear, kevlar helmets, and chest plates and backed up with armored cars. Unfortunately, due to the location and circumstances, we were denied the enjoyment of seeing their Hajis’ Muslim asses ripped apart by the cops’ armament.

              That POS in the White House wants to bring how many more Muslims here now? (Understand that he knows that he would not exist had Muslims not been able to enter the US. Also understand that the whack job mother of his would have had no place to raise him if she didn’t live off the largesse of her second Muslim husband for years. As a result, while Obama may not actually be a Muslim (and most likely believes in no organized religion), he is as Muslim-friendly as it is possible to be without actually being a Muslim.

              My view is that many of these migrants in Europe (I will not use the word “refugee” to describe a population that is 80% male)likely belong in Gitmo to begin with, so let’s give them a safe haven there, not in Louisville, DesMoines, or Oklahoma City.

              If I had my way, instead of closing Gitmo like Obama wants to do, I would expand it, so much so that the air terminus for travel to Gitmo would, by necessity, be Havana International Airport due to the number of air travelers involved..

              • Do you understand that the US armed and funded ISIS both directly with the overthrow of the Libyan government and indirectly through our Saudi allies to overthrow sovereign nations in the middle east?

              • Did those heavily-armed cops kill two scapegoats and leave their baby orphaned?

                • Scapegoats my derriere. But if the Jihadi dad was killed first, I suppose that the Jihadi mom (for a few seconds) was one of those “widows and orphans” Obama said the Republicans were afraid of.

      27. I’m pretty sure that September 23, 2015 is the date on which all of this will all happen.

      28. Another bullshit article not worth the reading!

      29. Look at it this way those gullible kids and their stupid patents the encouraged their kids to join the military. By all means let them pay the price for their mistake. They made the bed now they can lie in it. So cannon fodder for the UN & NWO they will be. And If they all perish. Maybe they will have a war and nobody will come. I know its mean and politically correct but heck I am mean person. Back when I was in HS in Gym class the football coach tried to recruit us to play football. He asked was their any reason why anyone shouldn’t be delighted to play football. I raised my hand. I stated im not going to risk being injured to help you make your living. He went on a tirade about how being on a team builds character. I replied Im already quite a character and It would be hard for him to teach me anything. Its almost impossible to learn from someone dumber than I am. Unless it what not to do. For some reason I stayed in trouble in school.

      30. Defend your Obama voting cunt . And you will get what she gets

      31. Time to put McAin back in a time out

      32. The police are not. Protecting us they are destroying us.look around.

      33. Why would America want to fight for scumbag liars?

        I will go myself if these scum bags fight along side me on the front lines for their scam.

        I know it will never happen.

        They are cowards and will never fight the wars they start.

        They have no problem letting your kids fight for fraud and die for fraud and the corporations.

        Hey McCain and the rest of you scum bags, do you want to go to the front lines of the fake wars you want our kids to fight and die for the corporations you work for?

        I will go with you if you have the balls but on the front line only in your fake war!

        In all fairness we may be taking out by a missile strike by people who want to clean up the mess.

        I get it there is no profit in dying for a corporation unless it is for the cabal and the grunts do the dying for your scam

      34. Russia’s Putin did more to take out ISIS in Syria in the past month than Obama did in the last two years. The truth is, Obama didn’t want to take out ISIS– he was using ISIS to take down Syria’s Assad, but Putin put a stop to that! And now, Putin has drawn a line in the sand in Syria to keep Assad in power.
        Any attempt by the U.S. and its “allies” to overthrow Assad and destabilize yet another Mideast country could lead to war with Russia which could lead to WWIII…!!
        Militarily, Putin is in a strong position with air and ground forces now in Syria as well as the latest anti-aircraft missile systems. In addition, he now has ordered one of their latest submarines off the coast of Syria “to immediately arm its 3M-54 Kalibr cruise missiles with atomic warheads in preparation for use in the (Syrian) War Zone against the supporting nation states of the Islamic State.”

        NOTE: I don’t think Putin is bluffing and I assume Russia also has its Strategic Missile Forces on high alert…

        • Strange how you Yanks are almost putting Putin on a pedestal. This is the same piece of work that you lot were railing against when he was head of the KGB.

          Now, according to your twisted logic, he’s some sort of freedom fighter! He’s still the same nasty piece of work (as are all politicians).

          Then again, what can be expected from a nation that went into a mass sulk because France didn’t join in the American invasion of Iraq? French (freedom) fries anyone?

          America, a country beyond parody.

      35. Send Obama to the game with a slingshot. ….and appropriate Muslim clothing.

      36. Its all a movie but in this case a horror show.

      37. Off topic-but maybe not???

        Loring Wirbel, board member of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Colorado chapter and co-chair of the ACLU’s Colorado Springs chapter, called for supporters of GOP presidential hopeful Donald Trump to be shot before they vote for the billionaire businessman.

        Comparing Trump to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels, Wirbel wrote in his Facebook page:

        “The thing is, we have to really reach out to those who might consider voting for Trump and say, “This is Goebbels. This is the final solution. If you are voting for him I will have to shoot you before election day.” They’re not going to listen to reason, so when justice is gone, there’s always force, as Laurie would say”.

        The left operates from an infantile emotional “touchy-feely” myopic point of view. Rather than break down a situation intellectually they would rather release their pent up emotion and just kill those who would disagree???

        When justice is gone and they won’t listen to reason- just kill them??? I’ve encounters this theme in varying degrees when talking with liberals. I try to avoid liberals whenever I can. It’s like talking to a two year old… me, me me…

        The liberal agenda is their life and when they say you need to give up your guns, I always just smile…

        My guns were sold off several years ago so we could play the slots in Vegas…

        • 1vet, although I’m not a Trump fan, that ACLU dildo crossed a line calling for his supporters to be killed. That libturd had better start watching his own six. When any libturd tells me I need to give up my guns, I have words with the dildo and someone has to step between us to prevent me from knocking out his stupid ass.

          • Braveheart 1776:

            Great article at nomorefakenews dot com about Trump. About how the network helped build him up; and now how they don’t seem to be able to destroy him.

            It is worth everyone’s time to do the read….great stuff! Let me know what you think of the article; sure gives a good prospective on how his remarks are putting the PTB’s panties in a wad!

            • Makemyday, that was the most interesting article I’ve ever seen about Trump anywhere. nothing in there to dispute. Looks like 2016 will be a very interesting year.

      38. Good for you survivorman what did the corp get you. It’s not about being a cunt to fight. If you wanna fight for political agendas fine not me. My momma always told me you have to choose your battles in life. I will fight when I feel it’s time not by being ordered by some cupcake officer trying to earn brownie points. You say this about others because you was a troop and volunteered to go to nam attaboys for you is that better. I don’t have a game system to play call of doo doo either I work everyday of the week you should try it. A runt kid in my neighborhood went in the marines and when he came home he was running his mouth to a buddy of mine. My buddy said I don’t give a fuck your a troop and beat the snot out of him some hero ha. Just because your a troop doesn’t mean I won’t hand your ass to you. if you volunteer to put yourself in harms way for somone else your a fool plain and simple. If your forced to go you gotta do what you gotta do.

        • asshat, many a marine has had his ass handed to him by smarter/tougher americans lol.

      39. Is AllPipelineNews .com cointelpro? Are they a FAKE news site? What gives with AllPipelineNews .com

        Recently I left a comment at AllPipeLineNews .com responding to an article that suggested that ISIS was going to attack 25-50 cities on Dec. 24th. That sleeper cells comprised of 5 man teams were going to carry out this attack. The article brought out how ISIS was growing in the U.S. through domestic recruiting and that the ISIS we face here will be white and blend in. Any of this sound familiar? “White AL CIA DA” RIGHT WING DOMESTIC TERROREST? Sounds like DHS wrote this article to fit the official narrative .

        I challenged the article by arguing the message, not attacking the messenger. I was surprised to see within minutes the comment was taken down and my handle blocked from posting any further comments. This is what I wrote that upset AllPipeLineNews .com

        Hmmmm where do I go to sign up for ISIS. I want to see their recruiting pitch! Whats the attraction? I do not believe for 1 minute that ISIS is recruiting collage kids or anyone else for that matter. First of all, what dumb ass would go to a website and sign up, give them your contact information so they can get back with you? Does ISIS pay or is this charity work for the cause? What’s the cause?
        Seriously, it ridiculous to think that 16 year old French girls are joining ISIS in France, again whats the attraction? Unless they mean ISIS is recruiting through Blackwater/X.E. or whatever other name they go by. Then that would be the same as the U.S. government recruiting them which maybe the case only they qualify you through special forces training and if you make the grade they inform you that you are ISIS.
        If they do execute this so called sleeper cell plan across the country then these target cities will be the liberal cities where everyone thinks GUNS and GUN OWNERS are evil. In this case they would be doing most of us a favor. Good ridden dumb asses. If they target area’s like mine where everyone has guns, then it’s a suicide mission.

        Think about it, the feds as a matter of practice infiltrate militia groups, biker groups etc. So ISIS has domestic recruiting efforts targeting Americans. How do you make contact with them? If you can do it, so can the FEDS, yet they are not. FACEBOOK allegedly has recruiting pages up that they won’t take down, but if you are a descending voice about the policies of government they will take your page down. Yea RIGHT, nothing going on here!

        Further more they are allegedly recruiting from all these liberal collages, but I thought liberals where anti-gun, anti war? What’s the attraction then? There is no attraction and there is no recruiting going on. if it’s the liberal kids joining ISIS how does that fit the narrative of “white AL CIA DA” who are “RIGHT WING EXTREMEST, NOT LEFT WING EXTREMEST. THEY REALLY NEED TO GET THEIR STORY STRAIGHT,the media is all over the map on their conflicting stories. It’s all a bullshit scam.
        This article is bullshit. The enemy isn’t ISIS it’s the CIA, MOSAD and MI6 who work for the global elite which are the bankers. They are using ISIS as a PAWN on a chessboard. Guess who they are setting up to save the day? PUTIN! Russia is going to come over here and turn our electricity back on after ISIS takes us down. What a great excuse to take over a country!

        • Manna Made:

          I will give you three guesses and the first two don’t count why your post didn’t please the moderators on that sight. Your sentence which included the truth about the CIA. Mossad, and M16 will certainly cause your banishment from most sights.

          Can’t have you telling the truth to the sheeple, now can we?

      40. 1vet

        He did resign from the ACLU. Doesn’t matter. I figure the Democrats want a war. I don’t mind giving them one if they stand and fight. I hate chasing after people.
        Democrats hate conservatives like Muslims hate infidels.
        Political affiliation may be as important as religious belief. Like a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

        • SS:

          I like that, “I hate chasing after people”.

          Lately I’ve heard liberals getting more testy about things not going there way…

          Next secession vote I hope Texas steps out of the homeland…

      41. it’s either them,or us.

      42. Have not placed one of these in a while, it is a repost from craigslist, not mine.
        Hope you get a laugh out of it…


        Don’t Shave That Hair!!!
        I have recently made a mistake in my life, and I offer my story to you, that you may learn from my error. It all started, as many things do, with me having trouble shitting.

        No, I was not constipated; this was not a regularity problem but a matter of technique. It seems my ass-hair had grown to such a length that tiny grogans were constantly getting tied up in the matted jungle between my asscheeks. It led to much frustration, with me KNOWING that I still had something to drop, but unable to shake the tenacious turd loose from its butthair dwelling. Eventually I would have to do two things: either reach down with some paper and try to pinch off the lingering loaf (which required careful precision to avoid smearing the creature all over my rear, especially since I had no way of seeing what I was doing) or just go for broke, start wiping, and hope that I could remove all the leftover fecal matter before the toilet paper reached its Can’t-Be-Flushed threshold.

        I was contemplating this problem, when I had what seemed at the time to be a bright idea. “Hey! This is my butt and my butt-hair, right? So why don’t I just eliminate all the hair, and then my grogans will flow out like beer from a keg!” I said to myself. It is a statement that will go down in history with a lot of other regretted statements. “How many Indians could there be?” said by General Custer. “Looks like a good day for a drive!” by JFK. “There! America On-Line now has complete Usenet access!” by some idiot system tech. Such was my anal shaving idea.

        I performed the operation that night, with a cheap disposable razor and a towel to sit on. Starting from the bottom, and shaving from the crack to the cheeks, I began the arduous process of ridding my ass of hair. Occassionally, I would have to clean the razor of accumulated hair and miscellaneous slime, which I did by wiping it on the towel. Slowly, my twin mounds and the between-ravine began to resemble the hairless cheeks of a newborn baby. Finally, I wiped the razor one last time, and surveyed my work. The towel was covered with a pile of hair. My ass was smooth as ivory. I smiled, satisfied, thinking my troubles were over.

        Little did I know.

        I now have a great respect for anal-hair. Like everything in this world God created, it has its mighty purpose in existence. It was only after I had removed it that I started to learn how much I had been taking it for granted. For one, it provides friction. I learned this the next day, when I walked out into the sun heading for class. After climbing two flights of stairs and starting to sweat, I started to notice something unpleasant. The sweat was accumulating in my crack, and was causing the unpleasant sensation of my two asscheeks sliding past each other with every step. I thought about going to the bathroom and wiping it off, but had to get to class. Eventually, I thought, it would dry.

        Unfortunately, it did dry, but only after mingling with the microscopic shit- molecules lingering around my brown starfish. When I stood up after class, my cheeks were stuck together with a slimy sticky shit/sweat combination. As I made my way back to my dorm, it started to itch. DAMN, did it itch! Felt like a swarm of ants was making its way up and down my crack. Fighting to keep from jamming my hand down there and scratching away, I rushed back to the dorm.

        Unfortunately again, this exertion caused me to sweat, and when I finally reached my room, my cheeks were sliding back and forth against each other like a pair of horny cane-toads. I quickly dropped my pants, and attempted to dry my ass off by sticking it in front of a fan and spreading my cheeks. As I pulled the two mounds of flesh apart, a horrible stench burst free and filled the room. Every dog within a 4 block radius started to howl. I had it worst of all, as the ripe aroma of festering shit/sweat went into the fan and blew back into my face. I fought to keep from heaving. And as I sat there, fighting vomit, my ass cheeks spread and dripping, with the concentrated aroma of my body odor mixed with the tangy smell of my own shit blowing right into my face, I had only one thought: “It will be like this until the hair grows back. Weeks.”

        Later on, trying to deal as best I could, wiping my ass at every opportunity, I discovered another wonderful use for ass-hair – ventilation. I attempted to launch a fart, only to have it get stuck between my asscheeks. Apparently, with no hair, the two pink twins can get vacuum sealed together, and the result was a frustrating fart that slid up and down between my cheeks like a lost gerbil.

        As if that wasn’t enough, I am now enduring further torture. As anyone who has ever shaved anything knows, when hair is first growing in, it comes in as stubble. Imagine your ass having the texture of a brillo pad. Well, that is what I am dealing with now. It is a hellish torture, and there are many times when I just look out the window and contemplate why I shouldn’t just jump out and get it all over with in one fleshy splat, rather than endure this constant agony.

        Friends, DON’T SHAVE YOUR ASS-HAIR!

        • I wonder why he did not just trim the hairs…


          Be well all..

        • Eppe, another good one. Keep them coming.

        • GROSS, Eppe!

          Pure GROSSNESS!!

          • yeah, that’s a little too much bathroom humor for this place. Any place!

            • Oh god, now you reminded me of a song I wrote when I was 19 lol. You think my attitude is bad now I was a complete mofo as a kid! Maybe I will post the lyrics hmmmm…

              • “Your so fuckin stupid” By Genius @ 1982…

                When you went to school you thought you had it made
                but you were so stupid that you flunked the first grade
                Your momma said my little boy is goin to be a jewel
                but by the time you talked it was clear you were a fool
                (CHORUS) (Your so fuckin stupid theres nothin you can do
                why’d your momma have to go and raise a fool like you
                dingleberries hangin from the bottom of your chin
                giving birth to fools like you should be a god damned sin)
                You always thought that you would be an astronaught someday
                but now your cleaning toilets and everyone thinks your gay
                Your parents they were cousins and your foreheads at a slant
                you know it’s really too bad you can’t get a brain transplant
                you went out to get a job be it clean or be it dirty
                but it’s awful hard to get around when your IQ is 30
                you finally got laid in the backseat of your chevy
                but the tires went flat and the seat caved in cause your woman was so heavy

                and it went on and on but I can’t remember it all lol. I have an albums worth of shit along diff lines from bad drivers to homos lol. Sorry I was just reminded of that shit 🙂

                • I guess the moderation gods didn’t like it 🙁

              • To all.
                We all have things that we have to do.
                I placed this post for all to know what NOT to do.
                I thought it was funny.
                If I grossed out anyone, sorry..
                Read the archives…
                I post some things that kill the envelope…
                But you got to admit it was funny…

                Eyes open, no fear…

                • Oh bullshit eppe! Don’t appologize, it was funny! Don’t be skeered of what others think ( I know civility lol) Humor rules! Prep on my man, prep on 😛

      43. This agreement seems to be similar to the ‘secret alliances’ that caused all of Europe to explode into WW I.
        All over a simple assassination.


      44. More bullshit from shit-for-brains people. How many of your pronoucements have actually come true? Very few. Yet you keep making them showing you are an idiot and your followers are idiots.


      45. Secret alliances were in large part what caused Europe to explode into ww 1. Millions died because one person was ssassinated.

        • WWI was not just about the murder of Arch Duke Ferdinand. As any primary school pupil in Europe will tell you the war was a culmination of four factors:

          (1) Nationalism

          (2) Imperialism

          (3) An arms race

          (4) Alliances

          So, for the benefit of Americans (who can not understand primary school history) all the factors that caused WWI are now in place for a re-run.

          Americans, with their simplistic viewpoint on the world and rampant xenophobia, are frog marching the world to war.

          No amount of stockpiling is going to save your sorry hides. Continue believing in the fantasy and keep on prepping!

      46. Faith comes by hearing and hearing and hearing…

        What one needs is the second birth…


        Mana Made, I hearby accuse you if Agency ass clownry, misrepresentation, lies a.d trying to get accepted in this board. Nice try ass wipe..GUILTY…

        Sarge, get cuffs and lock up this low life dred lock thug. We just busted another one..

        MANA MADE, YOU ARE AND AGENCY ASS CLOWN.. DONT COME ON THIS SITE Ever again and talk crap about allnewspipeline.com, crap that its a fake.. that is total complete bullsh…t.. I have had people read it, my scientist friend read it and have validated that they are real..Your banned punk..ass clown..



        Agency ass clown super moderator..

        • HCKS, welcome back. About time you came back.

        • Good grief! Is that the English language you’re making a stab at? How on earth do you manage to get through the day making people understand you?

          Or do you just grunt and drag your knuckles?

      48. I have to back up Eppe’s post. As and athlete I can tell you this much. You must know your body..i am not even going to get into the this topic, but I have had fails before. What Eppe mentioned is a fact of life in how your ass works in real time..sometimes the simplest of problems can escalate to bigger problems and can lead to infections etc.. so you have to know your body..good job Eppe, at least you are still retentive. Sickening, yet useful information. Don’t even ask. Me how I know this..try living g outside for 1 1/2 yrs and see what happens.. this time I have prepped to deal with the environmental impact. Stock up on alcohol wipes for post shtf to keep bacteria under control..women have more serious problems in pair calapse than men for a reason. That is what the scientist was telling me, I just didn’t mention the details..within one month women are in serious trouble from the impression of things..sorry but I can’t comment in the details..I have to respect the women reading on this site.. k auto make sure you ladies prepare on every level…


        Agency ass clown Super moderator.

      49. Yes Brave, I had to take a break and do some QC, quality control, and I don’t make much money at this time of the year it’s slow until January, at during normal years, 2016?.. I had follow the advice that Genius gave to me a few weeks ago, to make sure that all my bug out bags are really ready for the environment.. I have to make sure that if I dropped the bag in water and it got totally submerged that all my of contents are protected..everybody is got big our bags but keep forgetting that if the contents are not vacuumed sealed your phucked.. then when you open them, you have to have more bags that are stronger than average bags to se up the items again, this time without vacuum sealed bags..so u have to thank Genius for educating me in this stuff..with calapse, coupled with 20 inches of rainfall for 2 days can finish off the average prepper and destroying all of his preps. If I an walking in shallow water and drop my bag then i am phucked ..if I have to go literary under water for a few mins then I am prepared, my bug our bag is now 100% and meets SHTF standards.I had to make some adjustments..



        No, I ain’t perfect either.

      50. I suggest that Megan McCain get into uniform and combat arms and move out to Iraq.now that we have cleared women for Rangers and Seals it should be no problem.

      51. I consider myself a pretty harmless poster on this site. I read it pretty regularly and from time to time post. Mostly just a smart assed remark but we live a prepared lifestyle that most would be in awe of. I am always in moderation for hours at least and my responses or comments are seldom if ever read. For a brief time they went through quickly and then it stopped again. I put an e-mail address on the form that is close to our real one and use the same one each time. I don/t for the most part insult anyone or preach my doctrine. Why can’t I get posted the same day? I realize that this is not a web site geared toward practical preparedness but a little of it would be helpful. If I can’t have comments posted in the same decade I will probably still visit the web site but I wonder how many others have the same experience.

      52. Passin, just as I figured. You are incapable of learning anything new.
        Stick to your old testament, the sorry comfort blanket that it is to you.
        Go find more foolish, ignorant idiots that will believe the ancient meaningless garbage that you seem to find is relevant to modern times.
        At the very least, read Leave Your Nets. (Jesus said that, did ya know?)
        But you won’t.

      53. You religious got it al wrong. When you can explain why Apollo and Zeus in Bible, who the 10 horns are, the 7th resurrected head, the whore, the 5 end time beasts,

        Let me clue you in- Rev 9:11 Apollo rises from the bottomless pit w/200,000,000. Read Rev 17:8 -Scarlet beast comes from bottomless pit too. Apollo IS the anjtichrist (hence miracles, gift of gab, power). Zeus in Rev 2:13 Satan’s throne was in Pergamos- so was Zeus’. Germans excavated. It is in Berlin today. Hitler had copy of altar made in Nuremburg (he knew) where he gave 6 of those amazing (evil) night speeches.

        10 horns have been here since 90’s- 1. NAFTA 2.MERCUSOR 3.EU 4. Russia 5.China 6.Japan 7.Australia+NZ+South
        Africa 8. Middle East+N.Africa 9.rest of Africa 10.India+SE ASIA+ SE Asia Islands. Called Babylon the Great.

        5 end time beasts 1. Rev 12:1Red Dragon Beast 2.Rev 13:1 Sea Beast (NWO, Babylon the Great) 3. 2 horn lambdragon (USA+England) 4. Rev 17:6 Scarlet beast 5.Dan 7:8 Apollo/Antichrist declares self god, Rules ALL Beast(after subduing 3 horns)

        the whore is the religion being funded/created by NWO -INTERFAITHISM. All religions in one including Satanists. Google interfaithism (shocking)

        7 heads 1Babylon 2Persia 3Greece 4Assyria 5Egypt 6 Rome 7Babylon the Great (wounded head was Nimrod’s Babylon- (not Nebucadnezzer’s) his empire was only one until now to have ALL nations (tongues) in one government before dispersal. Hence – Babylon the Great

        We have been a thoroughly conquered species and ruled by Red Dragon Federation through proxies for 8000 yrs who benefit but also have no alternative but obey. Real High Tech, aliens/angels/Watchers/Grigori/Ananaki/.

        Snowden revealed they are in control, he is wrong on time extent. Google it

        Google Babylonian magic square for 666 info. It was sun worship; Apollo is sun god; comes from bottomless pit; Mahdi comes up to kill infidels from well he went down in 9th century. Coincidence? He comes up as the sun. All Iranians and Shia believe this. Apollo?

        Lots more at my web

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