There is a border wall in existence that reduced illegal immigration by over 99%. Viktor Orban, the Prime Minister of Hungary put up a double fence along the border of his country with Serbia, and the results were staggering.
This tweet sums up the statistical data behind the wall and reduction in illegal immigration. However, somehow the debate over Donald Trump’s wall is still ongoing.
https://twitter.com/TheDailySheeple/status/910038073848643584
Recent Facebook ads assure social media users who support Trump’s wall that he will succeed at building it as promised during his campaign.
“There’s been a lot of noise and a lot of rumors,” reads the ad on Trump’s personal Facebook page. “WE WILL BUILD A WALL (NOT A FENCE) ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES,” it adds, calling the issue “non-negotiable.”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908274366739345409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Ftechnology%2F351527-trump-using-targeted-facebook-ads-to-reaffirm-that-he-will-build-a-border
As pointed out by Reason, discussions should be had about the cost and burden on the taxpayers because of the proposed wall. But setting the cost issue aside, as evidenced by the Hungary numbers, barriers actually do the heavy work of keeping people out. Hungary’s wall was built over two years ago, and the flood of people illegally entering the country has all but stopped.
Speaking on the second anniversary of the government’s move to seal Hungary’s border with Serbia — which is also an external border for the European Union — Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s Chief Security Advisor György Bakondi announced that the fences have caused illegal immigration to collapse from 391,000 in 2015, to 18,236 in 2016, to just 1,184 in 2017.
“The system of technical barriers is the key to the success of border security, and without it, it would be impossible to stop the mass arrival of immigrants”, the security chief explained. –Hot Air
The simple statistics on the wall’s efficacy are staggering. In 2015 there were an estimated 390,000 illegal border crossings. So far this year that number is barely over one thousand. It’s hard to say that a barrier or wall won’t do the trick when it comes to stopping the flood of illegal immigrants. And the Prime Minister of Hungary is all too happy to do what’s best for his country.
Viktor Orban was originally told by the European Union that he couldn’t put the fence up in the first place. He proceeded to build it anyway, doubled its size, and then sent a bill for half the cost to the EU. It’s doubtful he’s expecting repayment, however, the little jab at the EU was probably payment enough. Then, when Angela Merkel announced that Hungary would have to stop defying the edicts of Brussels, he thanked her for her input and then basically told her to go pound sand. Orban has stood up to tyrants trying to tell him what to do for years, and his wall has proved all of them wrong.
This isn’t to say that we don’t face more challenges than Hungary. The United States has a much larger border and more variable terrain to cover. But the problem is not with engineering or the physics behind the building of a wall – it’s the politics.
we don’t NEED a wall…..all we got to do is STOP incenting them to come here……they’ll find their OWN way home.
Aahhhh….. I was midway through a scathing reply then it hit me. Sarc monitor went off. Phew!, OK blood pressure back down out of the.. danger zone.
BCOD, that’s right. Cut off the so-called benefits and they’ll leave. The money is the biggest reason they come here. I’m tired of these foreigners sponging off my tax money.
Problem is they won’t leave, they’ll just become part of the crime problem. Keep them out, BUILD THAT WALL DONALD!!!!!!!!!!!
DB,
I grew up with illegals.
Most of them worked very hard,
went to church, and were fairly
good neighbors, generally better
than the white trash.
The way to send them home is
to cut services, require that you
work for your welfare, and jail the
trash that hires illegals.
We are not Europe.
My favorite video is
one where a Black woman
was being threatened
at a Detroit gas station.
She went to the trunk of
her car, pulled out a shotgun
and shot the man threatening
her. Hopefully he was a Moslem
and hopefully he died.
rellik, you have a fairly naive view of the situation. All immigrants (most are from Mexico) are hard workers and white people are trash. No street gangs in your world? 9 out of 10 Mexicans in the US are getting WIC, according to La Raza. I could go on.
In Fairfax county, there are areas where it looks like across the border complete with run down little shops and all sorts just hanging around.
There are various parking lots where day laborers hang out by the dozens in the morning during the work week.
There are roads I don’t drive after dark because of the neighborhood–these are major thoroughfares like US Route 1 not small neighborhood roads.
MS13 has gotten to be a big problem complete with machete killings.
In my own development, there was a townhouse where about 25 people lived. These homes are 3 bedrooms with no basement, no garage of about 1200 sq ft. Social services and county law was brought in to dissolve this situation. Our HOA went to assigned parking then so regular residents had a chance to park in front of their own door.
In my neighborhood, instances of houses getting shot up by angry visitors has occurred.
I’m tired of pressing 1 for English when calling anywhere outside of a small mom & pop store. I’m tired of signs in several languages (if they can even be read by the intended).
I’m tired of seeing sidewalks and parking lots destroyed by the chewing and spitting (of who knows what) in areas that are frequented by multinational residents.
I’m tired of asking a clerk for help and they haven’t any idea what you are asking them about. I’m not asking for bolts in the plastic-ware section. If an answer is given, it’s near impossible to understand.
I’m tired of being a stranger in my own land. Worse yet, there are few places to go and avoid this mess. My county and town have changed dramatically in the 30 years I’ve lived in my house.
we want a wall or no second term for blondie. plus i want killer robots, drones and a cute little mine field.
Yea,,, and how? The ones we have here got it made,,, they get more leeway than long time residents and full US citizens like me, and our stupid ass local government is only slightly less stupid buncha fuckers than yours,,, this is all retarded
Its amazing the results when someone actually takes a stand!
Build the wall and do away with the incentives. you’ll get rid of the illegals and the democrats. The only ones coming in will be those that want to fit in and want to work,pay taxes and learn english.
They will just tunnel under or continue to be invited in for cheap labor. Unemployment in US reported officially to be 4.4%, the true rate is much higher, a prime example of fake news where the truth will never be acknowledged by our overlords. Gimme some truth, even a smidgen, nah ain’t gonna happen.
My car broke down in July. There I was on the side of the road, tools at home. Guy pulls up in a car worse than mine. Lent me his ratchet set and a few different size screw drivers. We talked. He’s from Honduras. I didn’t ask if he was legal or not but I assumed illegal. I don’t know. I try and be a good Christian man. Jesus was above all men, loved so many. I fail at that I think. Anyway I don’t know the answer to this problem we have. So many good people come here. But then too many come here and cause violence. I just don’t know
i know MANY “illegals” in my life…..i would say a majority of them…..AND other people, are good at their core….but they DID/ARE breaking the law……and there are TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD….we sure as hell don’t NEED more here, even though our politicians seem to THINK we do…..show me WHY we neeed more people in america.
And then i read over on Yahoo news that California is suing the trump admin over the border wall.
These asshole libtards in ca are really a special kinda stupid,,, i hope the san andreas opens up like a fucking zipper and kills off half of those commy turds… im over this crap, independence? Freedom? Motivation to do our best? Fuck it, time for the rnd, this is total bullshit
daaaamn…yer wishing for the buttcrackofdoom to happen…..right in my FRONT YARD! thanks, buddy! LOL
Sorry bud, nothing personal there, but collateral damage happens
The wall doesn’t need to be this elaborate and also transparent wall that Trump wants to the tune of $40 billion. It would need to be 1,900 miles long and considering the horizontal length of the country is almost 3,000 miles it just seems like a pipe dream to me. Given the changing terrain they will run into the unexpected and never complete it. Plus, why the wall has to be transparent is yet another roadblock.
One thing Trump could maybe do is change the citizenship law for anchor babies, those entering the country illegally, who give birth on U.S. soil which automatically makes the child eligible for U.S. benefits.
Jus Soli (Latin for ‘the right of soil’) means that as long as the child is born in the U.S. they are automatically considered a U.S. citizen even though neither parent is a citizen. Change that where the child is only granted U.S. citizenship if one of the parents listed on the birth certificate is a legal U.S. citizen. If we change the citizenship law they won’t have any incentive to come here. That will stop the anchor baby problem and also stop the parents getting the freebies as long as their minor-aged child is a U.S. citizen living in the U.S.
can we at LEAST build it a couple hundred yards on OUR side, so we can patrol BOTH sides, if needed, without causing an international incident?….maybe we could have an “iron curtain” kinda thingy….it worked well for the east germans, no?
Nail I agree I hope the San Andreas swallows up those idiots also. I don’t want to kill 1/2 I want a 100% result. Anyone too stupid to leave Calif. needs to be culled anyway.
I escaped permanently in 1979.
But I can tell you Hawaii, Oregon,
Washington, Nevada are just as
bad.
Anytime you allow Democrats to
live is a big mistake.
ok,…..how do i leave my 14 and 16 y/old sons behind while i move off to another state?
Why can’t we just put up two stout parallel fences about 100 yards apart and in the no man’s land between, landmine it. And put up good signage stating that fact. Anyone that could be exposed to the mines would have to be trying to break the law by climbing the first fence. Heck, police shoot people for much smaller infractions of our laws every day right now with very little outrage. This would be even more benign So I for one would not feel bad if some illegals blew “THEMSELVES” up breaking the law.
The British have the right idea. They let anyone come to their country, pack themselves into flats (they just found 35 men living in a 3-bed flat), and then let them cook themselves off every once-in-awhile in a major fire. Others can get a gym membership, work out and get buff, and get a free ticket to the Middle East to join ISIS and rape and pillage their way across the desert.
Hungary isn’t alone – most of the former Commie bloc countries are refusing to go along with the Merkel/May Muslim Invasion – it seems there’s already plenty of resident Christians living in those countries – BIG surprise for Germany who now gets the whole load themselves ….
Slavery in the US was a terrible thing. The third world migrants being brought here today are for the purpose of displacing higher paid American workers. They don’t complain, etc. They are nothing more than neo-slaves. People that want open borders are no better than slave owners of the 1800’s. The migrnats are an even better bargain than slaves (in the short term). You see, the taxpayer gets stuck with the bill for educating the kids of neo-slaves. And for emergency services and medical services for the neo-slaves, not the employers. The employers have socialized the cost of labor in this country, by hiring neo-slaves.
One thing to consider with the wall in Hungary. It is to keep out the newly arrived muslim immigrants who are coming from an area where if you cross a line like that you get killed and they are too new to the west to know that probably won’t happen. Mexicans and central americans know we treat it like a game. If they get caught in the act of crossing they know they will just go off to jail camp, get fed well until deported and then they just start over.
Cost of building a wall versus cost of all the services and support provided to illegal aliens. I’m guessing the cost and maintenance of a wall is far less perhaps even less than deporting all who not here legally.
Might be time to end the endless refugee importation also. It’s fine to help them but how about helping them where they are at instead of uprooting them to bring them here to form their own enclaves and re instituting the problems they ran from. (Never understood the logic of bringing hot climate persons to a cold northern area of the US.)