Feds Unveil New Surveillance Tool Developed by DARPA that Could Kill the ‘Dark Web’

by | Feb 14, 2015 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Experts | 124 comments

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    The so-called “dark web” is where the visible Internet – easily accessible by public search engines and web crawlers – ends, and, everything else begins.

    The dark web is an unseen iceberg composing more than 95% of the real activity of the web, where databases, password-protected websites, official records from federal, state and local governments, various intranets, messageboards, website archives, forums and vast catalogues of data all reside.

    White and black hat hackers, law enforcement agencies and criminal networks all operate there in the shadows.

    And now, DARPA, the Pentagon’s secretive Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, has developed a surveillance tool known as “Memex” that can be used to reveal what is hidden on the dark web, and pursue criminal groups of interest – and perhaps control or even kill the dark web for good.

    CBS 60 Minutes reported on DARPA’s Memex, interviewing the project’s director and some of the principles involved. Ostensibly, the effort is focused on tracking and stopping sex trafficking… but obviously so much more is part of this secret military surveillance project. Watch the video report here.

    Dan Kaufman, the director of information innovation office at DARPA said:

    “The easiest way to think about Memex is: How can I make the unseen seen?.”

    “Most people on the internet are doing benign and good things,” he continued, “But there are parasites that live on there, and we take away their ability to use the internet against us — and make the world a better place.”

    Curtailing the Wild West of the Internet – whether or not it illegal activity is involved – is clearly within the scope of its possible applications.

    Leslie Stahl: Why is DARPA looking at sex trafficking?

    Chris White (Inventor of Memex): “We see that with human trafficking, the kinds of groups that do human trafficking are often using the proceeds of that to fund other things are counter to our national security interests. And we also find that people willing to traffic in women are also willing to move drugs and guns, and other sort of contraband.

    Chris White: “The internet is much, much bigger than people think. By some estimates Google, Microsoft Bing, and Yahoo only give us access to around 5% of the content on the Web.”

    Author Cassius Methyl raised questions about this secret project’s ominous potential for the future of Internet freedom, noting that it can “probably do a lot more than they say it’s capable of”:

    As the Scientific American noted, DARPA has said very little about Memex. What does it tell about a person, a group of people, or a program, when they are secretive and operate in the shadows? Why would a body of people doing benevolent work have to do that? I think keeping up with the projects underway by DARPA is of critical importance. This is where the most outrageous and powerful weapons of war are being developed.

    She notes a Scientific American article about Memex:

    “DARPA has said very little about Memex and its use by law enforcement and prosecutors to investigate suspected criminals.” and ““Memex”—a combination of the words “memory” and “index” first coined in a 1945 article for The Atlantic—currently includes eight open-source, browser-based search, analysis and data-visualization programs as well as back-end server software that perform complex computations and data analysis.”


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      1. Part of the topic stated: “the effort is focused on tracking and stopping sex trafficking”.

        So the focus would be on sexual acts and crimes against underaged teens by the UK Royal Family and their Zionist marketer?


        • Maybe this will shut down the criminal elite banksters’ pedophilia too. Or will they be exempt yet again?

          • Not likely. Those who are not exempt with a “free pass” (free trader, crony capitalist, or nwo cabal agent), will probably resort to homing pigeons and coded messages in pig latin.

            At least that is what my nefarious, anti obama group uses.
            Works like a charm.

            • Anyone who used TOR without understanding how it worked left themselves just as open as they would is they simply shouted through a bullhorn. You can be easily tracked through your exit nodes.

          • Exempt

            as always


      2. Yeah, benign until the government uses it against the American public. Anything like this will be used for nefarious purposes at some point. This kind of power eventually corrupts. This along with net neutrality will be the end of freedom here.

        • Jim in Va. Very accurate comment. If I may I would like to add to the part: “This kind of power eventually corrupts”.

          The system is already at its maximum corrupt level. The next phase would be the actual killing of the people.

          • Stolz, the killing has already started.

          • Stolz; touche!

        • YUP,
          the illegal scumbag on the whitehouse wants to control everything! pretty soon you will either be taxed and or have to have a permit to go to the bathroom!

          • Propaganda starts with education. I was blown away by a local radio station that interviewed Charlotte Iserbyt the other night (she served in the Reagan admin) but sees both parties working at the same agenda to change everything into communism through public education. Its a short interview but very worth the listen.


            • STERLING_
              Thank you for that exceptional link.
              Charlotte is always great .

          • This kind of shit is only possible (funded) because they (Central Bankers and their State) control a fiat currency and the printing press.

            Central banking, paper money, and the State are evils that stalk the land!

            Eliminating central banking and it’s paper currency would neuter the State and halt our decent into collapse and tyranny.

            “He who controls the spice controls the universe.” ~ Baron Vladimir Harkonnen

            Central Bankers – The owners of the State, know this all too well.

            • Considering how much evil force is arrayed against us, it is worth pondering that very few are saved.

              Lord, are there few that are saved? But he said to them: Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I tell you, shall seek to enter, and shall not be able.
              Luke 13:23-24

              Enter ye in at the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. How narrow is the gate and how strait is the way that leads to life, and few there are that find it!
              Matthew 7:13-14

              Bind his hands and feet, and cast him into exterior darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called but few are chosen.
              Matthew 22:13-14

              If the just man shall scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly man and the sinner appear?
              I St. Peter 4:18

              Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.
              Matthew 7:21

              • More nursery rhymes?

                • The nursery rhymes are what you intellectually dishonest secular humanists chant. But thanks for asking.

              • AND……

                Matthew 20:16

                “Thus the last shall be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.”

                Many do not (obviously) realize who Yahushua was referring to when he spoke of those who will not be allowed to enter the reign of heaven. They are not just the false prohets like we see on tv or those who went to church twice a year. They are most those who attend a 501c3 building at all. They are those who think that His law can be inored and we live in the land of “believe” only and the age of grace only. He came to fulfill the law and He told us to keep the law. He even told us all ten commandments in two. He said “those who love me will keep my commands.” Those wo do not keep the commandments, practice lawlessness. And one of those commands is the sabbath, both lunar – new moon to new moon (monthly) and sabbath to sabbath (weekly)Isaiah 66:23

                We are also commanded to keep His feasts….EVERYTHING else celebrated is pagan….including birthdays.

                • “But now we are loosed from the law of death, wherein we were detained; so that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.”
                  Romans 7:6

                  To commemorate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, Our Salvation, in joy, the Christian sabbath is Sunday. That is how we make holy the Lord’s Day. In the newness of spirit we can certainly celebrate our birthdays and the feast days of Saints.

                  You may, of course, bind yourself to the “law of death,” but that law cannot save.

                  It has been “REPLACED,” “MADE VOID,” “BLOTTED OUT,” “SET ASIDE,” “TAKEN AWAY,” “ANNULLED”:

                  Hebrews 7:18
                  Hebrews 10:9
                  Colossians 2:14
                  Jeremias 31:31-32
                  Malachias 2:8-12
                  Hebrews 8:5-13
                  Mark 7:7-9

                  • Man made it Sunday at the council of Laodicea (I think?) Doesn’t matter when and/or where…. but it was man who changed the sabbath to Sunday and I might add, adopted all sorts of pagan traditions and added them.

                    You are confusing the law of sin and death, with the law or His commands/instructions. We are no longer under the law with respect to sin, or with respect to the idea that keeping the law covers sin. That has been done away with. But now the law of Yahweh should be written on our hearts and we keep it out of love, not to get something (salvation), but because it’s been given to us.
                    It is not Law or grace, it is law and grace, but not to the degree that the manipulators have instructed since shortly (relativly speaking) after Yahuasua’s death.


                    • The law was given to the Israelites, not to Gentiles. The tablets were in the middle east, not in northern Europe, or Asia, or southern Africa, or Australia, or America. We are to keep nine of the Ten Commandments because they naturally follow from “love God” and “love your neighbor” in the New Testament.

                      We, as Gentiles, were never told to keep a Sabbath. We only keep Sunday as the “Lord’s day” because of the mistaken belief that the resurrection happened on a Sunday. It was actually on Saturday evening. The Bible just says that the tomb was found empty in the wee hours of Sunday morning.

                      BTW, if anyone was actually serious about keeping Sunday as a Sabbath, they wouldn’t be shopping or eating out on Sunday, thus causing businesses to be open on Sunday and forcing employees to work on Sunday.

                      When I was growing up, my father would never buy anything on Sunday. It was easier when I was really young, because nothing was open on Sunday where I lived. If we were on vacation, we would take our own food with us so we wouldn’t have to stop anywhere. My father would fill up the gas tank on Saturday, drive as far as he could on Sunday, and stop for the night. We wouldn’t stay in a motel either. We would park in a parking lot somewhere and sleep in the car.

                      That’s my story, based on what I’ve read in the Bible, and I’m sticking to it.

                    • I am not a gentile any longer….when I find the link to “Who is Israel, I will post it for you Archivist.

                      I will no longer have anything to do with SUNday now that I have learned what I have. Once you have seen the truth, you will be held accountable to it. I will no longer say god, lord, holy, sacred, hallow.

                      Keeping the sabbath is huge, and yes we are to do so 🙂

                    • Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.

                      What part of Matthew 18:18 don’t you understand, BJ?

                      To commemorate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, Our Salvation, in joy, the Christian sabbath is Sunday. That is how we make holy the Lord’s Day. …and the Church had the authority to do so directly from the mouth of Jesus Christ Himself.

                      In fact the practice preceded the Council of Laodicea by 4 centuries. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16-17, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during the first century A.D., the Sabbath was no longer binding and that Christians were to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, “first day of the week” instead.

                      The early Church Fathers compared the observance of the Sabbath to the rite of circumcision. As the apostles abolished circumcision (Gal. 5:1-6) despite the Judaizers, so also the observance of the Sabbath was abolished.

                    • “Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.”

                      What part of Matthew 18:18 don’t you understand, BJ?

                      To commemorate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, Our Salvation, in joy, the Christian sabbath is Sunday. That is how we make holy the Lord’s Day. …and the Church had the authority to do so directly from the mouth of Jesus Christ Himself.

                      In fact the practice preceded the Council of Laodicea by 4 centuries. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16-17, and Apocalypse (Revelation) 1:10 indicate that, even during the first century A.D., the Sabbath was no longer binding and that Christians were to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, “first day of the week” instead.

                      The early Church Fathers compared the observance of the Sabbath to the rite of circumcision. As the apostles abolished circumcision (Gal. 5:1-6) despite the Judaizers, so also the observance of the Sabbath was abolished.

                    • BJ:

                      Your link is voodoo….

                    • Voodoo?


                    • BJ:

                      Voodoo, how, why?

                      Here it is:

                      First have you ever tried to research anything about C.J.Koster? Let me know where I can find out what his religious background is, where he became a “DR.”, did he ever attend any university, or even a simple biographical sketch on him. Even poor old Wiki seems to have avoided him like the plague. Is he even real? Why the secrecy?

                      I think it is only fair since he has written that book and was the major player in “Scriptures” translations that we should be able to find out something, don’t you?

                      Bottom line when going through your link it seems that he promotes “Yahshua” as the true Messiah which upholds and teaches Mosaic Law who WILL come for a Torah/Talmud bride, NOT for “Christians” who are still in their western gentile Greek mindset and are rebellious because they don’t keep the Torah/Talmud. The end result looks to be conversion to Judaism.

                      I believe that is what you hinted about in your post about no longer being a gentile, is it not?

                      Just in case you missed it BJ look up Judaism 101. “The idea of a Mashiach (Messiah) is an ancient one in Judaism. The Jewish idea of Mashiach is a great HUMAN leader like King David, NOT A SAVIOR.

                      There is much speculation when the Mashiach will come. The Bible identifies several tasks that the Mashiach will accomplish. JEWS DO NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS because he did not accomplish these tasks.”

                      Is that what you want you and your family to believe? That Jesus Christ is a lie? To become a true believer and be accepted into Judaism you must reject any belief that he was Christ/God in the flesh. Before becoming converted you should peruse the mysticism of the Rabbi’s and the Talmud, BJ. The Torah is NOT the end all of the Jewish religion.

                      Whatever you are searching for, BJ, I don’t think you will find it in CJ Koster out of South Africa whose biography seems to be unavailable in this information age.

                      I hope many people look at the link you presented and the link I presented. You/they can decide for themselves whether you have made a reasonable choice or if you are following another Pied Piper.

                      Are you preaching this stuff to your internet friends?

                      One more thing, neither you or Kostler know the truth between true Israel and who is/is not a gentile.

                      Luke 8:18

                      “Therefore take heed HOW YOU HEAR. For whoever has, to him more will be given; and whoever does not have, even what he seems to have will be taken away.”

                    • POG,
                      I think your reasoning for having something against Koster is absurd. A doctorate, university, biography?? Really? Are you serious?



                      There is evil and evil people everywhere in all groups across the globe and has been since the garden. Yes the Talmudic Jews are twisted and are not sons of Yahwey. And there are evil twisted muslim whackos as well. But guess what…..the catholic church and the church fathers right off the bat were just as screwed up and led to the confusion and craziness Christians have to dig though for truth today. And it all began with the calendar. Some say that he who controls the food controls the world. Some say that he who controls the money or the printing of it, controls the world. But I think it more appropriate to say….he who controls the calendar, controls the world. Because he can control what god is served and how.

                    • How amusing, BJ, that you think you know better than the Apostles and Fathers who sat at the feet of Jesus Christ Himself.

                      It is you who is confused with your crackpot doctrines.

            • It’s only possible because the average American is dumb as a stump. As evidence look who they elected twice and the other psychos they send back to Washington for decades. In all honesty the average American does not deserve freedom and most likely as long as the free money keeps arriving will never miss it.

              • john w, you think the elections are not rigged and everyone’s vote actually counts? If no one voted in any election the outcome would be the same. Voting is for show, to give the sheeple a false feeling that their voice is heard.

                But you’re right, the average American is dumb as a stump, and getting dumber every year with each new iphone release.

                • We will never know as to their being rigged since the Stupid party signed a non challenge agreement a couple of decades ago. We have no one looking out for us as Boner and Mr. Turtle prove everyday as they enable Obamas plans to destroy this country.

        • So I got this xbox 360 for Christmas and I’ve been playing a survival game called Tomb Raider (2013). It is an awesome game with some realism and could be very good for getting your children excited about prepping. Plus the protagonist is a lesbian who has to save her girlfriend from an evil wizard. Video games are rightly being used to brainwash your kids that gay and lesbian relationshits are normal. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

        • So the fedpigs want to prosecute all the human trafficking, kiddie porn, arm dealers, and drug dealers, except for the underage sex slaves used by the Prince Charles and Bill Clinton provided by banker Mr. Epstein (another zebra) on his private island and the $3 billions worth per year of the most deadly weapons known to man that the feds give to the most brutal dictators and cartels on Earth and all the drugs that the CIA circulates to kill off the minorities and false flag South Amerikkkan countries.

          The government is about as useful as the turd that came out of my ass this morning.

        • I’ve been watching a series on utoob called Ray Mears’ Extreme Survival. It’s pretty good. Recommended.

          • OY YOU Acid… Good to see you back fella…Ray Mears is a right fat bastard and wouldn’t last five fuckin’ minutes without a BBC camera crew… I’d skin his fat lardy arse and use it to carry my shit paper in… He’s a fuckin’ fraudster… Ray Mears! my fuckin’ arse.

          • Only SHEEPLE play with xbox. TRUE PREPPERS NEVER EVEN TOUCH AN XBOX.

        • I really can’t understand, if your not breaking the law, why would you worry about our benevolent big brother knowing everything about us. They’re only here to help us. Besides we don’t use no dark web, we spill our guts freely right here on SHTF plan daily. Trekker Out. Thank You Big Brother!

          • Ello Trekker… These authoritarian power mad government types love it when ordinary Joes play along with the “I’ve done nothing wrong, I’ve got nothing to hide” mind set… They don’t give a flying fuck about you and your concerns at the moment but give ’em enough wriggle room and they’ll shit all over you… And believe me, their shit fuckin’ stinks.

            • Has anyone else noticed that the more information about us that they accrue, the less they care that we know about it?

              The information that they gather is not unlike the sword of Damocles. The more info they have about our private lives, the heavier the sword hanging over our heads becomes and the more damage it will do when it falls.

          • This is so they can get access to VPN networks and other ways people have to keep their message traffic secure. They do not want anyone do be able to do ort say anything they do not know of. Islamic terrorists are of course exempt.

        • And theres always got to be a big bad boogie man to blame. Every bit of legal lawlessness invented by the g-man starts w/ some destructive event or evildoer.

      3. The electronic age must die.Too many shifty bastards out there.
        Happy Valentines Day!

        • Yup, I agree, we must go DARK, bye…………..poof

          • Sometimes I dream of EMP’s. It is simple physics, there is no long term future in digital things. Gone, like the episodes of the Lucy Show attached to Voyager.

            • I shutter to think what some alien race might think of mankind, after thinking the “I Love Lucy Show” is representative of our species.

              Then they come here to take a look around, and see that we literally shit on our own dinner plates with chemicals and GMOs. If our drinking water is too pure, we piss in it too, with fluoride, chlorine or whatever we have on hand.

              We measure the amount of impurities in the air in TONS, not parts per million!

              When we get sick, we add more poison and radiation to our bodies, in the mistaken thought that that will somehow make us less sick.

              We spend the majority of our time trying to find new ways to more effectively kill each other, including ending many of us before we are even born.

              We treat our home, this planet, like it’s disposable, just like we treat the life on it.

              I imagine any advanced alien race might see us as lice, infesting this planet. Eventually, it wouldn’t surprise me if they figured the best thing to do, was to delouse this planet and let it recover.

          • I am sure sooner of later we WILL have to go dark.
            Or maybe Big Brother will do it for us.

            I dont understand all this “dark” web stuff , but i am sure that if a Government controls anything , the result wont be favorable for the rest of us.

            • I know for certain in an asymetric war if we are targeted all infrastructure that supports comunications in any way shape or form needs to be destroyed, cell towers, antennas, cables, fiber optics, satcom,
              All needs to go byebye, if anyone foreign or domestic wants to use this against us we need to deprive them of that option,
              There are no centralized command groups on this side, so ending availability of standard modern modes of observation is going to be paramount

              • The war is already on.
                Its a propaganda war , the more people believe the government , the more people give up in the way of freedoms and rights.
                There wont be a fightin war , everybody is just gonna hand over the constitution and bill of rights one day , for their own good of course.
                Another spoonful of socialism ….yum yum .

                • Ill pass thanks,,
                  Am way beyond giving a crap about safety

              • Yup, I agree. Communication will be the first to go. I was in 7th Army field communications in Europe in the 60’s and the mantra we were told was in the event of a conflict, the first to be taken out is communications. Makes one feel all warm and fuzzy inside doesn’t it? On our side there is no command at all, as far as I know of. Some are trying to form but I really don’t expect many to do so effectively because of a lack of trust. Makes me think of the two movies Red Dawn. I’m closing 70 and don’t expect too much contribution from me.

              • Kula I’ve given it alot of thought and I’m pretty sure that I agree with you, but it always seems that things are so complex and there is two sides to every coin. There is so much to this thing called High-Tech and I really don’t know anything about it. So just for the sake of an argument, if all these thing were destroyed would it hurt us more or them? The Feds and the Military probably do most of their communication by satellite, how do you stop that. I do know for a fact that most local LE do depend on cell towers and such. Anywho any input would be helpful. Trekker Out. Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum!

            • 26 Feb. Obama is rumored to be taking over the web. I am sure that Boner and the rest of the Stupid party are fine with that. Has anyone seen the Pubbies do one thing they were elected to do? No and you won’t either. Boner has a man crush on Obommie and is his biggest fan. Whine all we want but that is the reality and there is squat that can change it.

      4. How do I get on this dark net? Do I need to shut the lights off in my house? A special badge? Secret handshake? 😉

        Can’t be THAT dark if a lot of folks know about it.

        Does it have a special IP I can go to? Or a special DNS??? http://www.dark-google-where-everything-else-is.com ???


        • It’s a special club and if you have to ask then you are not in it. Look into setting up your own VPN. That is as close as the average schmuck will ever get to the dark net and most probably not all that secure.

          • I’m in the club, and no, there’s not a secret handshake. But you do need skills and common sense. The guy that started Silk Road and is now on trial screwed up by using his real name years ago when he first set it up.

        • Most people access part of the dark net every day. Anytime you go to a shopping site and look at a catalog of items for sale, that catalog is in a database that you can’t access, except through their page, one item or a few at a time. That database is a part of the dark net.

          I own a number of websites. I have pages and data stored that are not linked to or from any other pages, even my own. Those unconnected pages and data are also part of the dark net.

          Anything out there that you can’t access using a standard browser, FTP software, newsreader, or Telnet program is the dark net.

          Download the TOR software, and you can get into the onion websites. Some are illegal, such as Silk Road was, but many are just for sharing unpopular political opinions or for people who just want a website that’s really off the radar.

          I hear NSA is searching for anyone who even Googles “TOR” or “dark net.” I’m probably on the list from when I downloaded the software. There’s some weird stuff there. If you want to try it, I would recommend using a computer with Linux so you won’t catch anything there.

          Coast to Coast AM had two hours on their January 18 show which explained the dark net pretty well. If you have newsreader software, go to the “alt.binaries.sounds.radio.coasttocoast.am” newsgroup and download the show.

          If you want to get TOR or just read about it, go to ht tps://www.torproject.org

          • Ditto on using Linux. a great tool on linux is Selektor, which gives you the breakdown of “hops” that the tor browser uses.

            The more they tighten their grip, the more of us will simply use our insatiable desire to tell them to screw off and find new and ever more creative ways to communicate. Won’t it be interesting when they’re trying to shut down 1000 darknet networks? Or sifting through the bilions of photos uploaded to try to track those images that have messages encrypted in them with stegonography? (google it)

            The can’t win the battle on the internet any more than they can win a war against 100 million well-armed Americans.

            We’re a damn resilient bunch, after all…

      5. Happy Valentine’s Day from someplace tropical… And I’m very tan 😉
        Okay, now back to your regularly scheduled programming…

      6. The purpose behind surveillance is control.

        Government and G-worshipers will argue things like “if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear” implying anyone objecting to the ever expanding government surveillance network -constant surveillance of every citizen- is somehow involved in criminal or other illicit activities.

        But they will get almost hysterical if that same argument, that same logic, is applied to government (a government that is now more secret than ever before in history).

        Examples of this rather paradoxical phenomenon are so numerous and so common that it seems as ordinary as someone walking a dog down the street and doesn’t even merit mention or attention in common discussion.

      7. It cracks me up when the corrupted try to control others corruption. I had no idea so many fear freedom. If all this is being done for the children there should be a whale of a next generation. With all the intelligence of synchronized drones being irradiated, vaccinated and all. Freedom is slip sliding away in our search for wealth. Ironic isn’t it? If you had all the money you need but no freedom what would you buy? Hopefully it will still be for sale, but if it is, it will cost dearly to buy the second time. Speaking of corruption, gold works well here. A barbaric relic for barbaric times. It will buy freedom lost. Use greed when the corruption is endemic. And keep on thinking free.

      8. Probably ties in with the line item in DOE’s budget proposed by the administration.

        $273 million for Exascale computing

        Wiki says Exascale computing systems are capable of a billion billion calculations per second.

        Couple seconds with this power and they can pull up everything you have ever done electronically, where you travelled by the traffic light cams and EZ pass cameras and triangulate your location with GPS tracking and compile a complete profile of you and where you go and who you know.

        There is no escaping Big Brother.

        I’m sure they can see how many fingers I’m holding up right now.

        • Good
          Then they can see the preasent im leaving them in the porcelin throne in my basement right now,
          Thats what i think of their technology.

        • None.

          You’re typing with both hands.

        • ok JRS….put that middle finger down,you’ll scare the kids.

      9. The ATF is at it to. Want to ban M855 ammo, better stock up now. BATFE has released a “Framework for Determining Whether Certain Projectiles are ‘Primarily Intended for Sporting Purposes’ Within the Meaning of 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(c)”, which would eliminate M855’s exemption to the armor piercing ammunition prohibition and make future exemptions nearly impossible.

        • If the ban on M855 ammo will also apply to Fed agencies and local police departments, then fine. But if they will be exempt and make it only applicable to civilians, then it’s just more unconstitutional tyranny.

          • Since when does this administration follow or respect the Constitution

          • You can bet it only will apply to civilians,
            High caliber custom projectiles, only way to fly

            • Nobama, Blackjack, and Kula, the feds can get f#$%ed. They don’t tell me what I can or can’t have.

      10. I am waiting to see how long it takes for Big Bro to require everybody to have a Facebook account just to get web access.

      11. Off Topic…

        Locally, there is an ongoing feud between the borough council and property owners.

        Council wants to pass an ordinance that allows their code officer to inspect property (interior, too) twice a year for violations and make the owners pay for it.

        Owners claim 4th amendment violations and are threatening lawsuits.

        Borough soliciter says they are within their rights to do it and it’s a waste of time to go to court.

        Seems like a violation of rights to me, but I have, in the last several years, begun to think that the corporate state actually retains the rights to all property by the scam called “real estate”. Anything that requires a signature by the state to own seems to give them a controlling interest in that property…be it vehicles or weapons or real property. Licenses, permits and codes are the way they exercise their controlling rights.

        • JRS , CLEAR violation of the fourth.
          Sue the bastards.
          Around here the county assessor wont set foot on property without notification, and wouldnt DREAM of ever entering a home.
          Where the heck you live ? I am afarisd i would have to move from anyplace that tried that BS .

          • Well, I live in the country, but I used to live in this borough…so it doesn’t affect me now.

            However, the nose is in the tent.

            • On a positive note, useless governor of Oregon sent packing. Unfortunatly, the moronic populace of the I5 corridor will elect another dickweed as soon as his temporary replacement a self-proclaimed bi sexual is removed.

          • Sounds like either NJ or NY. Either one wouldn’t surprise me. Someone’s gonna have to stand up to them…who will it be?

        • Thats BS
          Property owners need to ban together and eject whoever came up with and is supporting that crap

        • No ‘code inspectors’ come into my home without my approval, period.

          • Do he words “Get A Warrant” mean anything in this discussion?

          • Or they can check in but they can never leave.

      12. “The only two things in life that make it worth livin’

        Are guitars in tune good and firm feelin’ women.”

        Enjoy the weekend…

        • Ha Haaah… But why oh why do they look like shit when you wake up next to ’em the next day? Fuck me it’s valentines day! I’m gonna get shit faced.

      13. 7.1 mid-atlantic ridge. 13.8 klicks shallow.

      14. The flow of info will be shut down when they start to eliminate the problem citizens. You won’t know when it starts. Pays to have connections to the local police and civilian employees of same. Have sources. Survive and prosper.

      15. JR,nonsense like bi yearly home inspections affect us all,just a little more compromise,too much already.A town council suing their own town as the folks there voted to outlaw sped trap cameras and the revenue(theft) it brought in,seems a recall election in order in these towns.

        There will always be workarounds on the net to get on and have a “dark net”,powers that want to be will have to crash net and am sure there are many freedom loving hackers that will retaliate.

        As for the 855 there also will always be a workaround,the best at moment is stock up and have plenty of your favourite for reloading and such,enjoy the weekend all.

        • ima gonna get me some of them there carrier pidgins. :)If they don’t do the job, I’ll eat em…….

        • Since when is regular .223 and 5.56 armor piercing? Nothing more than souped up .22 rifle rounds. I would be more concerned about .308 were I them. Who do they think is out to get them?

      16. But *how* did we get here, to start with? Here’s one hint:

        “If you don’t… think that there is a God to be accountable
        to, then… what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That’s how I thought, anyway. I always believed the theory of evolution as truth, that we all just came from the slime. When… died, you know, that was it, there was nothing.”

        Transcript from interview with Jeffrey Dahmer from Dateline NBC,broadcast 29 Nov. 1994.

        Doestoyevski put it more succinctly: “If there is no God… **everything** is permissible.” (And yes, this IS a valid quote from the Russian, Без бога всё позволено)

        • Test, I agree. If there is NO God then everything IS permissible. But what if there IS a God, a First Cause, a First Principle that created all things and put everything in motion?

          Then what?

          If I were God I would want to interact with my Creation, at least from time to time, and give my Creations a way to interact with me.

          Jesus IS that point of contact. Jesus IS that way. I have been out of the body. We are spiritual creations first, then physical beings.

          I have seen the Lord face to face. He IS real even if He is invisible to us. Most of Creation IS invisible to us. That IS a scientific FACT.

          Wise men still seek Him. 🙂

          • DK, stop eating magic mushrooms and you’ll stop having those hallucinations.

      17. Dictatorship through over regulation. More than one way to skin a cat. North Korea, Cuba, China, Myanmar, USA. Drivers license, license plates, vehicle sticker, emission inspections, safety inspections, insurance, road blocks, etc. And that’s only for driving. Want to build a house? Good luck.

      18. One way to hold us back is to shut off the web. We can’t talk to each other to stand up against TPTB.

        What the hell. I think we are on the verge of the BIG SHIT HITTING THE FAN! One of the first thing you down in combat is close off the lines of communication.

        Hang in there folks its going to get bumpy!!!!

        • It’s been a progression from shortwave (during the “fairness doctrine era) to independently owned AM radio talk shows (during the era of smaller AM stations without syndicated national “right wing” personalities doing controlled opposition shows on nationally owned AM chain stations) to the current free internet blogs and independent broadcast programming.

          It is beginning to reverse itself.

          Time to get some new batteries and an antenna for that old shortwave set if you still have it, you’ll be needing it soon.

          • Tarrant, I have 2 shortwave radios with single-sideband {SSB} capability that I keep with some other electronics in a faraday cage [metal trash can from home depot for $25] and use packing bubbles [the UPS Store or FedEx] for inulation. Stocking up on all of the right size batteries for whatever electronics you’re saving is essential. I have items that use AAA, AA, 9-volt, and D. My LED flaslights use the CR123 lithium batteries and I stockpile those also. You can never have too many batteries. Last but not least, plenty of wire antenna with alligator clips on each end for that SW radio to get the best signal possible.

        • That’s interesting Sgt.
          But how could they shut down communication without
          shutting down commerce?
          I mean interstate travel is a source of information
          as well as the postal service, say.
          Nevertheless, survivalists always figure out a way
          to stay in touch, whether its smoke signals, drums,
          or hell, even by runner if need be.

          • Simple – they have a database of IP addresses that correspond to “potential terrorists”.

            • Or just control who is licensed to access the internet, as is currently done in China.

              Everything has to go through an ISP of some type, and there are only a few ISP’s which are very easily identified and controlled.

              Proxy servers could present a minor problem but when one is traced is exposes everyone else who is (illegally) using it at that time.

              Maybe someone with more IT expertise can devise a work around for this, but I and most other users can’t without making ourselves known in the process.

              • Ad hoc wireless networks (using wireless routers) can work in densely populated areas. In less populated areas, large antennas can extend point-to-point wireless router communications to miles, even farther from one mountain to another across open country. The current record with standard wireless routers using 8-foot and 10-foot satellite dishes is over 100 miles (from Las Vegas to some place in Utah). Packet radio will work everywhere else.

              • All they have to do is make the coming real ID a smart card with a chip on it. That is how DOD does it. You will have to buy a keyboard with a card reader installed to sign onto the internet. It will only work with full rights on the hard seat location which will be your home and maybe business. The roaming profile will give very restricted rights as to what you can do with access at other sites you may request access at.

                • Those smart cards have their own problems likely suddenly crapping out for no reason. Also, they are not cheap.

                  • Not arguing that they are expensive. Then again money is no problem for the Feds and who wants to be forced to buy that kind of keyboard. No keyboard with reader no internet. However if they do use smart cards you can forget about having any privacy and also the ability to look at any sites except those that they decide you can look at.

                • How about if I use a laptop with card reader simulation software? Anything is possible with computers. I was remotely operating mainframe computer systems around the world over 20 years ago through a dial-up connection.

                  I will never give up.

        • Yes, during the Changes, the web will be cut off to the public. That is why We The People are responsible for the American Constitution where we live.

          Start a Freedom Cell where you live, folks. make a list, check it twice, know who are the enemies of America and where they live. The New World Order can be eliminated overnight, and at 500 yards. Aim small miss small. Make our Founding Fathers proud.

          Death to the New World Order. Its totally Constitutional. 🙂

        • I don’t believe they will shut down the Internet, but they will require you to get the Mark of the Beast to gain access. Another example of giving up your rights for a privilege.

      19. Already bumpy out there. It’s all the crap we don’t yet know thats most creepy. Lions and Bulls and Bears, oh my!

      20. Looks like another shooting at a Cafe in the Netherlands. I think there was a meeting about Islam and cartoons. Not to worry, just another work place violence. Nothing will change until EVERYONE is effected on a daily basis. Just keep preparing, with all that is going on financially – something has got to give soon.

      21. Anything that makes people happy or feel good the stinkin gov wants to regulate. Keep voting for big gov people. Remember the 80s no internet computers were like typewriters they sucked bad. The cars were all boats Reagan was the pres those were the good ole days. I was a dirt poor kid and never really knew the difference as my whole community was in the same boat. I still live where I grew up. The town is still distressed there is pawn shops gun stores smoke shops liquor stores and tattoo parlor s everywhere and they wanted to build a casino but it never got through a vote good thing all the casinos nearby are hurting. I can throw a rock at the site of the nightclub that burned down killing 100 people the biggest nightclub tragedy so far I think. They are gonna build a memorial there soon I knew people who didn’t make it out that night. Yep times have changed the gov has made more laws and restrictions. The internet going down might bring the good ole days back more partying and hanging out. I’ve met so many people and wonder about what they are up to but I don’t look people up and they can’t look me up either I think it’s better this way. Leave it were you found it.

        • Asshat kicks ass… Bassjunkees for victory… Turn up the Bass and fuckit.

        • I was online in the 1980s. There was GEnie, Dialog, CompuServe, and AOL, among a good number of online providers. There were also thousands of private BBS systems you could dial into. One of the biggest in the world was “Rusty n Edie’s BBS.”

          Those were the good old days. A 286 PC, dedicated phone line just for dialup so my wife could still use the phone, and Procomm software. And thousands of BBS listings from Computer Shopper magazine.

          • I remember all that. Remember The Well? Think it was in San Francisco.

            Thought I was hot stuff when I figured out how to send an electronic message from my work computer to my girlfriend at her office. Nothing big; usually what time to meet to ride home. Even the sys admin at the time didn’t think I could send or receive messages. Ha!

            Those were the days…

        • Asshat,I was in theory going to attend that concert,band opened with Desert Moon,my favorite by them,had many calls the day after checking in on me,lived in Boston area at time so going south for concerts a regular gig,more a Tull/Zep fan but as grew older got into the metal,especially blues based metal.Tesla did a great job getting the charity concert for families and survivors together,damn shame more big name acts didn’t do it,yet country western bands found the time to play the gig,a very sad day in general and a great lose for the rocker family in general!

      22. Nice to meet everyone out here unfortunately we are not going to be able to share our thoughts and ideas anymore. I have learned a lot from my fellow Americans thanks everyone.

        The communist have won and they are taking over the USA.

      23. Why would anyone need armor piercing ammo do you plan on being attacked by a steel plate hahaha. Who cares if they ban it. Guns are not the pinnacle of destruction there are better ways. A gun is just something to keep nearby in a pinch. I was getting nervous they were gonna ban incindiary. I would be all up in arms over that one. People were Americans we make what we need when the time comes keep some pipe around. There is all kinds of books that have improvised project plans you could build a gun and use it to get a better one. Home Depot or lowes has all the materials stock them now for later. It’s not illegal to have pipes and other such materials. But were to civilized to have war it’ll never happen too many yellow bellies . What about an American brotherhood never happen either too many all out for themselves. We are just gonna keep taking it for the team. So let’s all stop complaining if we don’t got the balls to do anything about it tptb know we won’t uprise and the things that are said by some make us all look like cowards.

        • Agent Asshat gets my fuckin vote… POWER TO THE ASSHAT… SAFE.

      24. I saw this on a thread elsewhere today and thought I would share with all of you, so you can share as well. Happy Hell Is Freezing Over Saturday.

        Copy and paste this on ALL muslim stories! Flood them with the truth!
        The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
        The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
        The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
        The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
        The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
        The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
        The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
        The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
        The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
        The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
        The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
        The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
        The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
        The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
        The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
        The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
        The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
        The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
        The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
        The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
        The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
        The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
        The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
        The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims

        The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims’

        Think of it:

        Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
        Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
        Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
        Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
        Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
        Confusians living with Baha’is = No Problem
        Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
        Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
        Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
        Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
        Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
        Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
        Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
        Christians living with Jews = No Problem
        Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
        Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
        Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
        Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
        Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
        Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
        Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
        Muslims living with Christians = Problem
        Muslims living with Jews = Problem
        Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
        Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
        Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
        Muslims living with Atheists = Problem

        **********SO THIS LEAD TO *****************

        They’re not happy in Gaza
        They’re not happy in Egypt
        They’re not happy in Libya
        They’re not happy in Morocco
        They’re not happy in Iran
        They’re not happy in Iraq
        They’re not happy in Yemen
        They’re not happy in Afghanistan
        They’re not happy in Pakistan
        They’re not happy in Syria
        They’re not happy in Lebanon
        They’re not happy in Nigeria
        They’re not happy in Kenya
        They’re not happy in Sudan

        ******** So, where are they happy? **********
        They’re happy in Australia
        They’re happy in England
        They’re happy in Belgium
        They’re happy in France
        They’re happy in Italy
        They’re happy in Germany
        They’re happy in Sweden
        They’re happy in the USA & Canada
        They’re happy in Norway & India

        They’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not themselves… THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they’re happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will be get hammered


        Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
        Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
        Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
        AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!

        Think about it……..

        • You left out “The US presidency hijacker is a Muslim.”

          • Ah yes…..

            Ownership of the non federal, federal reserve and the City of London, was oddly left off the mooslum list.

            Now why would that be? Most here understand Rothschilds’ quote “Give me control of the money (which we have done with the Fed) and I care not who makes the laws”. Be sure to look up the families who own the Fed, not a muzzy among them…..

            And it surely MUST BE all the muzzys in Congress that is making and passing all those laws, now isn’t it? Who is writing and pushing the gun control in our nation? I will answer that one for you. It is the elected lawmakers (breakers) in DC who are dual citizens of Israel. Why are they so damned interested in disarming us? If the muzzies are going to terrorize the US wouldn’t these legislators want us armed to the teeth to repel the threat?

            We all hate the MSM but are willing to swallow and wallow in their “hate the muzzy’ rhetoric. We think they lie about everything except their ‘muzzy’ talk. Why is that?

            Do yourself a favor and look up Albert Pikes’ description of how the 3 world wars would come about. His roadmap is going exactly as planned. And lest you try to think him ‘just another fool’ check out all the statues and memorials in the US dedicated to this ‘fools’ memory.

            Today on Faux news it was PURPORTED (the talking heads exact wording) that the muzzies were going to behead a line up of Christians. Maybe that PURPORTED beheadings will be the final link to get Americans to send our kids into that WW3 that Pike wrote about.

            If not, there will be more PURPORTINGS to come, they certainly know how to raise the bar….

        • nopittypartyhere you are either a government shill or you are dumb enough to drink the government divide and conquer cool aide.

      25. I wonder if Dr. Vannevar Bush registered the term “memex” back in 1945.

        DARPA’s site says nothing about searching the dark net. Their proposed Memex software is more about getting into attached databases and unlinked web pages that Google can’t currently index.

        ht tp://www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/I2O/Programs/Memex.aspx

        You can find Bush’s original magazine article here:
        ht tp://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1945/07/as-we-may-think/303881/?single_page=true

      26. Looks like scare tatics to stop people from using Tor to me.

        Tor needs to move away from anything to do with Firefox who has Google all over it and move towards its own open source browser to make it safer but apart from that the Tor concept will become more important to our lives as the government even tried to add extra taxes on sugar.

        People seem to forget that the USA does not own the internet and people are waking up to how the NSA has been tracking us all so it is time that “we the people” wrote the rules and Tor helps us all to do that.

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