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Which one is she? Rich or poor and she gets paid to come on and look stupid because she thinks she’s funny?
Love it.
The guy she talks about who makes $12,000 per does not pay federal income tax.The rich do not pay either.That just leaves those of us in the middle.Some years back my wife was secretary to a fortune 400 developer, the poor guy had very little income-the 140 ft boat,limos,condos,his home,the country club membership etc.all corporate
He may not be IF hes married and has some kids but when I was single and making just 8000$yr I paid a fair chunk of it in federal income taxes….just sayin!
She is 100% correct. hertosexual loser is not funny, too bad losers like you exist.
You are a LIB! And you trust her? Look at her past……. You can’t see very far back or fwd! She can’t even speak. She’s getting paid and this is the peak of her 15 minutes.
She calls the government welfare check a “pay check”. Yep, I know how welfare recipients think!
Do you? Have you talked to any of the 46 million that are now on food stamps? How about the ones in Joplin or Tuscaloos that were already struggling before tornados took everything they own, including their transportation to look for more work (even if their aren’t any)? How about the ones with kids asking for food? Perhaps those parents should tell them that the free market will save them. But hey, they’re all the same right? That sort of thing could never happen to you, could it?
Not-so-smart, Charlie. There’s no reason those People couldn’t depend upon charity and family until the free market provided them with what else they needed, like low cost supplies, jobs and opportunity.
How many government regulations stand between People down on their luck and opportunity?
Remove the minimum wage laws and watch many on food stamps find a way to feed themselves instead of using the power of the government to steal income from everyone else to pay for it.
What about those without family or whose families are also out of work? What charities are you talking about? The food pantries that are running out of food all over the country? Do you know how much kids need to eat in one day to maintain proper nutrition? Are you talking about the Red Cross that always seems to make money dissappear, or perhaps the Starvation Army? Are you talking about the myriad of charities right now that are doing about as well as the average citizen because people have stopped donating? Have you ever fallen on hard times and not had a safety net, family, etc. to fall back on?
Clark,
Don’t blame the victims. They are exactly as they were trained to be. Many have been in they system for generations.
Private charity can no longer do it’s job because the people who would give to it can not afford to because of the corps theft of their property. The property was stolen to pay for these programs and the government now OWES it to the victims to pay up for as long as it can.
The families have been torn apart and can no longer fill the need because the government can support one better than a hard working and dedicated father. That, also, is by design of the corp.
If you don’t want your money to be stolen to pay for these promises long ago made by the corp, quit working for it and make honest money in the free market using your own skills.
@Charlie and Daisy, no doubt those are the bad ones scamming the system. I have never had a problem helping those in need, such as the people of Joplin. However, way to many are scamming, do you understand? It is not a lack of compassion or a anecdotal holier than thou attitude or story, it is the truth whether you wish to believe it or not.
Did you even watch the video clip and hear what she said? She called it a pay check and I have seen interviews of welfare recipients that have also called it a paycheck. Are you kidding me!
Hey Charlie, let me tell you something Pal. I see the abuse of the welfare system every day. I own a convenience store and we accept EBT. For five years now I see the same frickin people day after day abusing the system. They buy crap with the card, then wip out a wad of cash to buy lottery tickets and beer. Had one last week use her EBT card then climb into a brand new Ford F350 duelly crewcab powerstroke diesel! I know for a FACT they sell the dollar volume on their card for a cash discount and use that cash to buy drugs and alcohol. Not saying all do that by any means, but plenty do. Don’t frickin preach to me about not knowing what BS goes on with the welfare system. And another thing, it ain’t no fricken pay check, it’s welfare, plain and simple!
Those are the bad ones. Should the good ones be punished or the bad ones?
Charlie, I’m with you. I see a disturbing lack of compassion regarding people who have fallen on hard times. Not every welfare recipient is scamming the system, despite the anecdotal stories that angry, holier-than-thou people like to share. We need to support our brother and sisters who have lost everything or we are more heartless and uncaring than the government that everyone likes to rant about.
I’ve walked in the uncomfortable shoes of poverty and it was a humiliating and painful experience. But I’m not a lesser person for that experience – it has made me a kinder person who is able to see more than one side of a story.
Charlie says, “What about those without family or whose families are also out of work?”
That shows the importance of networking… and more.
I dunno, Charlie, the Salvation Army is overflowing with goods where I’m at and there appears to be no shortfall in food donations at the local food pantries.
Do you suppose the fall off in donations in your area are due to goberment taking their cut first?
It could be that I have fallen on hard times before, and like many others, I found a way, without relying on the redistribution of the the thievery from goberment handouts.
I don’t blame the victims, and I think their safety net should be the last one cut before the lights are turned out. After Wall Street gets weaned.
When someone says, “We need to support our brother and sisters who have lost everything or we are more heartless and uncaring than the government that everyone likes to rant about.” I say no doubt, So Long As it’s Voluntary.
Otherwise, once a Person Yells about wanting to steal from one Person to give to another, then it’s a whole different ball game, then it’s nothing but looters arguing about how to divvy up the loot.
Codydog has it right, “Gov’t does not have the answer you and I do!”
The only thing is, when what Daisy says below doesn’t work, some People need to sink to learn how to swim,… or fail.
If you don’t work, why do you think you deserve to eat?
Have you heard of personal responsibility? No insurance and you loose everything, then you deserve nothing.
I suppose you side on the moochers that defaulted on their mortgages. I suppose you think defaulters deserve to live in their houses absolutely free.
Don’t give me that crap that the moochers don’t get a big enough free ride already. Any other time period in the USA before 1933 and these moochers would be working any job whatsoever how degrading or they would be mooching off church, family or soup kitchens instead of getting thousands of dollars off the taxpayers and acting like it is an entitlement to take a multiyear vacation.
You know I am right.
What I see going on here is a prime example of class warfare. Just what the HMFIC wants..All you are right and all of you are wrong. JM2CW.
The professional moochers suck up so much that there is nothing left for people who really need it. The sad thing is that so many at all levels of gubmint cater to the parasite class.
Cost each taxpayer %7,000??? That’s the cost of limited liability in the corporation. Keep filling out your W-4 and working under a government franchise until you pay off your share.
After that, you can start working on the 14 trillion the corporation owes.
If you worked at Walmart and was told it’s debt was $7,000 per employee and they were going to take it from you, what would you do?
LEAVE THE CORPORATION!
Why should the govcorp be any different?
If you stay, you choose to pay. Quit whining.
James Arness has left us. http://yhoo.it/jRWj6c
Now they will really try to loot him.
RIP Mr. Dillon
I always liked Matt Dillon. He represented what was good and right and manly about America. James Arness brought the character to life and did it like nobody else could have.
She is right. This is absolutely disgusting. They have betrayed and looted the American people.
Daisy:
We absolutely need to support them! We is the key, not the Gov’t that wastes 70% of what they take in. How did people survive before welfare? Family, neighbor, community, and church. There are more poor today than at any time in history. Gov’t does not have the answer you and I do!
Codydog: There seems to be an unfortunate trend of those people who complain about welfare having no interest in helping their fellow human beings. We need to put our money and/or our time where our mouths are. It is not part of the solution to insult the less fortunate. It IS part of the to help.
How? Teach someone to garden,to cook from scratch….teach them a practical skill that can help them make a living…..invite them over to dinner….offer their teens a job helping at your home…babysit their toddler while they go to a job interview.
There are many practical things we can do to help and empower others to help themselves.
She hates whites.
She hates anything that doesn’t give free things to blacks.
She earns a living being a racist.
Yes, but she is a very GOOD racist and I agree with you.
Sorry to have to disagree but while there are some cold blooded people out there,there arnt too many people who lack compassion for others who are down on their luck…like say the folks whos homes have been blown away or flooded…most people feel for these people and are even willing to allow them some “welfare” with out too much animosity,Americans are basicly good and decent and want to help people in need and they’re smart enough to tell the difference between these two groups…the lazy and the hurt.
What we resent is the “you owe me just because Im alive” mentality,or the “you cant possibly allow me to go hungry” routine….like hell I cant,you are owed nothing,especially when you are 4th generation welfare bums…get off your lazy rearends and do something even if its going fishing,and dont tell me I HAVE to feed your offspring just because they exist….you made em you feed em,again Im not talking about some poor schlub who got knocked down and needs some help getting back up,happy to help if its not coerced from me at gunpoint,but do not DEMAND anything from me or my countrymen and try to browbeat/shame us into giving it to you…if I have any say you will starve!
And before someone starts on me about having no compassion “stick it” Ive been there,Ive had no job,no money and no help,Ive eaten alot of meals out of a dumpster,fed my family on throwaways,shot the kings deer and rabbits and caught his fish,picked berries and then picked the worms out of the berries,been hungry and shot doves to feed my kids…made a few bucks and gave most away to someone else who had it bad too…so dont tell me I dont understand,that somehow anyone who isnt on welfare must be doing just fine and just wants all the poor to starve,I simply refuse to be a slave,I refuse to get a hand out and then bite the hand that helped me,thats what ticks most of us off is the attitude that goes with alot of these people!.
I have this piece of ground and I make it feed me,I could go down to the county seat right now,today and get on every program there is because I make almost nothing in cash money,wont condemn someone who does and needs the help for a bit but I get angry at those who feel entitled and who live off the system forever,never doing anything to get off it,(weed out the bums and thered be plenty to help the true hardluck cases)
I got some help for a few months about 30 years ago,didnt stay there,didnt build a monument to it and worship it,hated it,dumpster diving was more dignified and upright as far as I was concerned,was told I “couldnt not” stay on assistance after I went in several months later and told them I didnt want help anymore,I remember throwing those unused food stamps(I always saved half of what we got each month)down on the table and telling them to go where it is very warm,have never taken another dime,wont take another dime,point is I HAVE BEEN THERE so I do understand the feeling,dont expect me to feel sorry for the ones who are bums and dont give me crap about not having any compassion..thats marxist BS to try to silence me!
And as far as teaching welfare cases to grow things and to hunt/fish/trap…Ive done alot of teaching along those lines and helped some people turn it around…never had a welfare person do anything but cuss me out for the effort, work? can food? hunt/fish? you gotta be kidding me.I can sit on my couch and do nothing and get paid!
Maybe you will find one here and there that wants the help but there wont be many
I dont try anymore,dont need the grief,I only help those who will make an effort…sorry for ranting so long but I get tired of all the excuses and blaming everyone but the lazy bums who are the problem….the poor never had it so good as they have had it in these united states,thanks!
Nice rant, REB.
My point exactly.
Like Daisy, I’ve fallen on hard times in the past. I worked full time and recieved food stamps because the wages were too low to pay the bills (yes, it can be done). Without it, I wouldn’t have made it. My mom died of cancer when I was 13 years old and my dad and I were estranged at the time. Anybody who has ever known me has made the same comment that I am an incredible worker. I eventually obtained an advanced degree and added to my country upbringing I can do just about anything I put my mind to. I shoot game, grow gardens, fish and have a very well protected home.
I kept track of everyone who helped me when I needed it and have paid them back and will continue to pay them back. As long as I have food and a home so will they. I also kept track of everyone who kicked me while I was down. Every Limbaugh-lemming and blowhard who went out of their way to blame me for their problems and cuss me when I couldn’t even afford to pay for a razor blade or heat in the winter. Every one of them that called me lazy when I worked longer hours than they could even stay awake. I know them like the back of my hand. In those times when I was at my lowest, I made a promise to myself to do anything I possibly can, for the rest of my life, to exact revenge on these people. To this day, I will go miles out of my way to make life miserable for anyone that I see being a bully and stepping on those less fortunate than them. I will make the time. I can be your worst enemy and there’s nothing you can do about it. Hell, you’ll be lucky to even know where it’s coming from.
But luckily, most of the people I meet are good people, like Daisy, and I live a good life. I feel happy and very fortunate to have gotten where I am today, but I’ll never forget those hard times because that’s when I had the most clarity and understood perfectly the kind of people that inhabit this world. I try to make my little corner of it as nice as possible and make sure no one I know goes through what I went through.
REB I went though five jobs in the spate of four years after the tech wreck one lasted three months. My situation did not get nearly as bad as yours, I kept my house (Thanks to a Chapter 13) and got a very good job. People need to not lump together folks who have had things go against them, with people who due to their own irresponsibility fly their lives into the ground and expect everybody else to pick up pieces.
That makes it hard on you and other hard working Americans who paid their taxes, played by the rules, and took responsibility for their own actions. Now due to absolutely no fault of their own find their lives turned upside down by a banking system, and a Government none of our Grandparents would recognize.
One who clings to his God and his Guns
Take care,
Thanks Reb, can’t be said any better.
There are couples of truths I’ve picked up the first is it doesn’t matter if you are rich or poor people will abuse the system. If it some woman with six kids by three different dads on EBT or some Wall Street banker with hordes of lobbyists. Second if you are giving away free money expect a line.
This 41 year old song is still true today.
Welfare Cadillac (by Ben Colder, aka Sheb Wooley, aka Guy Drake)
-1-
You know I’ve never worked much in fact I’ve been poor all my life
I guess all I really own is ten kids and a wife
This house I live in is mine but it’s really a shack
But I’ve always managed somehow to drive me a brand new Cadillac
-2-
The backdoor steps they done fell plumb down
The front screen door’s off and laying somewhere out there on the ground
The wind just now whooped up another piece of that tar roofing off the back
I sure hope it don’t skin up that new Cadillac
-3-
The front porch posts fell loose at the bottom
It don’t make no sense to fix ’em cause that floor’s just too darn rotten
In the winter sometimes we have snow blowing through the cracks
If it gets too bad we all just pile up and sleep out there in that new Cadillac
-4-
I know the place ain’t much but I sure don’t pay no rent
And I get a check the first of every month from this here Federal Government
Every Wednesday I get the commodities sometime four or five sacks
I always Pick ’em up down at the welfare office driving that new Cadillac
-5-
Some folks say I’m crazy and I’ve even been called a fool
But my kids get free books and all them there free lunches at school
But we get beer and crackfood and man they give us flour by the sack
Course them welfare checks they meet the payments on this new Cadillac
-6-
Now the way that I see it these other folks are the fools
They’re working and paying taxes just to send my younguns to school
The Salvation Army cuts their hair and gives them clothes to weear on their backs
So we can dress up and ride along and show off this new Cadillac
-7-
But things are still gonna get better yet at least that’s what I understand
They tell me this new President done put in a whole new powerty plan
He’s gonna send us poor folks money we’re gonna get it out there in stacks
In fact my wife’s already shopping around for her new Cadillac
@Taxpayer Revolution 9, nice post, so true.
And just so everyone knows, another story from today. Had a woman pay with food stamps and she had to figure out which EBT card to use cause she had multiple cards! WTF?
I just know this–a church associate hurt her back a few years ago…she gets SSI and her 9 year old gets SSI…the husband/daddy works and only nets about 350 or 400 a week…she just received $8000 in income tax return.
Could someone tell me how you get back what you didn’t pay in???
Yeah, there’s always a way to beat the devil ’round the stump.
Earned Income Credit (another form of welfare).
Speaking of welfare, how about those corporations and CEOs?
rich people don’t pay any taxes. Big corporations pay very little, if any. Poor people don’t pay any taxes. just leaves what’s left of the middle class, and they are dissapearing by the thousands.
call me crazy, but in the not too distant future, just who is supposed to pay taxes?? The previously mentioned groups won’t be paying, and there won’t be anyone left with any money but the corps, and the rich, and they will never pay.
This isn’t going to turn out well.
Dear Troops:
Yesterday — Memorial Day — some people asserted, once again, that you are “defending our freedoms” overseas.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Those people are just repeating tired old mantras. The reality is that you are not defending our freedoms with your actions overseas. In fact, it is the exact opposite. Your actions overseas are placing our freedoms here at home in ever-greater jeopardy.
Consider your occupation of Iraq, a country that, as you know, never attacked the United States, making it the defender in the war and the United States the aggressor. Think about that: Every single person that the troops have killed, maimed, or tortured in Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.
Yet, the countless victims of the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq have friends and relatives, many of whom have become filled with anger and rage and who now would stop at nothing to retaliate with terrorist attacks against Americans.
Pray tell: How does that constitute defending our freedoms?
It was no different prior to 9/11. At the end of the Persian Gulf War, the troops intentionally destroyed Iraq’s water and sewage facilities after a Pentagon study showed that this would help spread infectious illnesses among the Iraqi people.
It worked. For 11 years after that, the troops enforced the cruel and brutal sanctions on Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. (See “America’s Peacetime Crimes against Iraq” by Anthony Gregory.) You’ll recall U.S. Ambassador to the UN Madeleine Albright’s infamous statement that the deaths of half-a-million Iraqi children from the sanctions were “worth it.”
By “it” she meant the attempted ouster of Saddam Hussein from power. You will recall that he was a dictator who was the U.S. government’s ally and partner during the 1980s, when the United States was furnishing him with those infamous WMDs that U.S. officials later used to excite the American people into supporting your invasion of Iraq.
The truth is that 9/11 furnished U.S. officials with the excuse to do what their sanctions (and the deaths of all those Iraqi children) had failed to accomplish: ridding Iraq of Saddam Hussein and replacing him with a U.S-approved regime.
That’s what your post-9/11 invasion of Iraq was all about — to achieve the regime change that the pre-9/11 deadly sanctions that killed all those children had failed to achieve.
No, not mushroom clouds, not freedom, not democracy, and certainly not defending our freedoms here at home. Just plain old regime change.
In the process, all that you — the troops — have done with your invasion and occupation of Iraq is produce even more enmity toward the United States by people in the Middle East, especially those Iraqis who have lost loved ones or friends in the process or simply watched their country be destroyed.
In principle, it’s no different with Afghanistan. I’d estimate that 99 percent of the people the troops have killed, maimed, or tortured in that country had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.
Why did you invade Afghanistan or, more precisely, why did President Bush order you to do so?
No, not because the Taliban participated in the 9/11 attacks and, no, not because the Taliban were even aware that the attacks were going to take place
President Bush ordered the troops to invade Afghanistan — and, of course, kill Afghan citizens in the process — because the Afghan government – the Taliban — refused to comply with his unconditional extradition demand. You will recall that the Taliban offered to turn bin Laden over to an independent tribunal to stand trial upon the receipt of evidence from the United States indicating his complicity in the 9/11 attacks.
Bush responded to the Taliban’s offer by issuing his order to the troops to invade Afghanistan, kill Afghans, and occupy the country. In the process, U.S. officials installed one of the most crooked, corrupt, and dictatorial rulers it could find to govern the country, one who is so incompetent he cannot even hide the manifest fraud by which he has supposedly been elected to office.
In the process of installing and defending the Karzai regime, the troops have killed brides, grooms, children, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, uncles, aunts, cousins, friends, and countrymen, most of whom never attacked the United States on 9/11 or at any other time. They simply became “collateral damage” or “bad guys” for having the audacity to oppose the invasion and occupation of their country by a foreign regime. (It should be noted for the record that U.S. officials considered these types of “bad guys,” as well as Osama bin Laden and other fundamentalist Muslims, to be “good guys” when they were trying to oust Soviet troops from Afghanistan.)
Was there another way to bring bin Laden to justice? Yes, the criminal-justice route, which was the route used after the 1993 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.
That’s right. Same target, different date. In fact, the accused terrorists — Ramzi Yousef in 1993 and Osama bin Laden in 2001 — were ultimately located in the same country, Pakistan.
In Yousef’s case, he was arrested some three years after the attack, brought back to the United States, prosecuted, and convicted in federal district court. He’s now serving a life sentence in a federal penitentiary.
No invasions, no bombings, no occupations, no killing of countless innocent people, no torture, no war on terrorism, and no anger and rage that such actions inevitably would have produced among the victims, their families, and friends.
In bin Laden’s case, we instead got a military invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, where the troops have killed, maimed, tortured, and hurt countless people who had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.
How in the world have your invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq defended our freedoms here at home? Indeed, how have the assassinations and bombings in Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, and who knows where else defended our freedoms?
All these things have accomplished is keeping foreigners angry at us, thereby subjecting us to the constant and ever-growing threat of terrorist retaliation here at home. As I have pointed out before, the U.S. military — that is, you, the troops — have become the biggest terrorist-producing machine in history. Every time you kill some Iraqi or Afghan citizen, even when accidental, ten more offer to take his place out of anger and rage.
That’s the same thing that was happening prior to 9/11. In fact, there were some, including those of us here at The Future of Freedom Foundation, who were warning prior to 9/11 that unless the U.S. Empire stopped what it was doing to people in the Middle East (including the deadly sanctions on Iraq, the support of Middle East dictators, the stationing of U.S. troops near Islamic holy lands, and the unconditional money and armaments to the Israeli regime), Americans would be increasingly subject to terrorist attacks. On 9/11, we were proven right, unfortunately. (See Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire by Chalmers Johnson.)
How does the constant threat of terrorist retaliation arising from your actions in Iraq and Afghanistan make us freer here at home, especially when you — the troops — are responsible for engendering the anger and rage that culminates in such threats, owing to what you are doing to people over there?
Consider also what the U.S. government does to our freedoms here at home as a direct consequence of the terrorist threat that you, the troops, are producing over there. It uses that threat of terrorism to infringe upon our freedoms here at home! You know what I mean — the fondling at the airports, the 10-year-old Patriot Act, the illegal spying on Americans, the indefinite detention, the torture, the kangaroo tribunals, Gitmo, and the entire war on terrorism — all necessary, they tell us, to keep us safe from the terrorists — that is, the people you all are producing with your actions over there.
In other words, if you all weren’t producing an endless stream of terrorists with your invasions, occupations, torture, assassinations, bombings, and Gitmo, the U.S. government — the entity you are working for — would no longer have that excuse for taking away our freedoms.
This past Sunday, the Washington Post carried an article about American wives who were recently greeting their husbands on their return from Afghanistan. Newlywed Anne Krolicki, 24, commented to her husband on the death of one of her friends’ husband: “It’s a pointless war,” she said.
That lady has her head on straight. She’s has a grip on reality, doesn’t deal in tired old mantras, and speaks the truth. Every U.S. soldier who dies in Iraq and Afghanistan dies for nothing, which was the same thing that some 58,000 men of my generation died for in Vietnam.
Please don’t write me to tell me that you all are good people or that you’re “patriots” for simply following whatever orders you are given. All that is irrelevant. What matters is what you are doing over there. And what you are doing is not defending our freedoms, you are jeopardizing them
Sincerely,
Jacob G. Hornberger
President
The Future of Freedom Foundation
http://www.fff.org
I work in NYC – my wife and I have had several spells of unemployment so we’re in arrears for a number of debts and finding it hard to pay down these debts in a manner considered timely for our creditors. I’m working two jobs so I can try to do the right thing and you’re going to tell me I’ve got to finanace people who won’t even make the effort to get one job? Every day I see in the streets young able-bodied men sitting on the sidewalk with some BS sign about their circumstances, begging for handouts. I’ll happily TEMPORARILY help those who TRY to help themselves to get out of a jam but to be COMPELLED to finance sloth is repulsive.
The most efficient way to take care of people in need is through CHARITY.
People know locally who DESERVES assistance.
Used to be that townspeople knew the difference between a widow with 4 kids and a bum.
No need to send our dollars to the fed and get 25cents back in Welfare.
It’s all a Government scam to skim the 75cents in the first place!