SURVIVORS – What If the World As We Know It Ended Tomorrow?

by | Oct 4, 2011 | Emergency Preparedness | 103 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    In an America that has succumbed to complete financial and governmental collapse, a handful of determined survivors must make their way to safety.

    For those who have read one of the original survivalist novels, Patriots, and more recently, the step-by-step guide to preparedness How to Survive the End of the World as We Know It, you’ll be excited to learn that Survival Blog founder James Rawles has released a new fictional novel (though it reads more like the real thing than a fictional story).

    Survivors: A Novel of the Coming Collapse

    A Brief Overview:

    Instead of extending the Patriots saga further into the future, the storyline of Survivors is contemporaneous with the action in the first book. But it is set in different locales, with mostly different characters, with vastly different levels of preparedness. The novel opens with the perspective of a U.S. Army officer deployed in Afghanistan, just as “The Crunch” begins. Unlike the protagonists in Patriots, most of the characters in Survivors don’t have deep larder, so they are forced to scramble and improvise.

    The America we are accustomed to is no more. Practically overnight the stock market has plummeted, hyperinflation has crippled commerce, and the fragile chains of supply and high-technology infrastructure have fallen. The power grids are down. Brutal rioting and looting grip every major city. The volatile era known as “the Crunch” has begun, and this new period in our history will leave no one untouched. In this unfamiliar environment, only a handful of individuals are equipped to survive.

    Andrew Laine, a resourceful young U.S. Army officer stationed overseas in Afghanistan, wants nothing more than to return home to Bloomfield, New Mexico. With the world in turmoil and all air and sea traffic to America suspended, Laine must rely on his own ingenuity and the help of good Samaritans to reach his family. Andrew will do whatever it takes to make it home to his fiancée, no matter how difficult the circumstances.

    Major Ian Doyle is a U.S. Air Force pilot sta-tioned in Arizona with his wife, Blanca. Their young daughter, Linda, is trapped in the North- eastern riots. Three teenage orphans, Shadrach, Reuben, and Matthew Phelps, have no choice but to set out on their own when their orphanage closes at the beginning of the Crunch. Then there is Ignacio Garcia, the ruthless leader of the criminal gang called La Fuerza, who will stop at nothing to amass an army capable of razing the countryside. And over everything looms the threat of a provisional government, determined to take over America and destroy the freedoms upon which it was built. The world of Survivors is a terrifyingly familiar one. Rawles has written a novel so close to the truth, readers will forget it’s fiction. If everything you thought you knew suddenly fell apart, would you survive?

    James Rawles, affectionately known here at SHTFplan as “The Godfather of Survival,” is without a doubt the leading expert on survival and preparedness for unforeseen circumstances and far-from-equilibrium scenarios. Like the first book in the series, Patriots, you can fully expect potentially real life situations in Survivors to meld perfectly with preparedness lists, tactics, tips, solutions and recommendations that can help you to plan, prepare and thrive in the event of a serious breakdown in the world as we have come to know it – regardless of the causes.

    If you are planning on acquiring a copy of Rawles’ new book Survivors but have yet to read Patriots or Surviving The End of the World as We Know It, we urge you to take the time to review these highly acclaimed books in detail as well, as they will certainly open your eyes to a world of possibilities – some you may not have even thought to contemplate.

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      1. More cheery news to start the day!!

        I placed my order at 05:15 MDT and I am looking forward to reading another fine novel by Rawles. One set in an area i lived and worked in.

        • Today is book bomb day for ordering this book from Amazon. When I ordered it was #8, now it is #5 on Amazon. Go through SurvivalBlog to order and let’s run it up.

      2. Both books were awesome and I cannot wait to read this one!

        • Indeed both books were good. I lent both books out to friends and after about a year they finally came back to me well worn and dog eared. Those who had read both are on board. Hopefully it will save them. Oh look,… another piece of sky just hit me on the shoulder. Just a small one though, no biggy.

          • Same happened here. I lent out my copies of both, started talking to others about then while they were still lent out. So I had to buy extra copies just to have ones on hand to lend. Think I’ve purchased 4-5 copies of each now. After all they are our “Survivalist Bible”

          • you mean you get books back?

            i would have to invest in transponders and homing devices.

        • Just ordered my copy!

      3. What would happen?
        Hey look, my brains are all over the wall.

        Life has been too good, too fun, too easy to live without light switches and cars and grocery stores and contact lenses and phones and internet and concerts and bars and fast food, if that all ends, what is the point?

        I am too old to live like a caveman or battle freaks for food, but good luck to all of you who want to go on.

        Me? I am not screwing up my great life average, and it has been a great life (but the last couple of years are already hurting my average)

        • Fred: I lost a good career in Law enforcement, now I see the corruption that is. Please understand life is worth living, don’t give up the GOOD FIGHT, your age, wisdom, lifes lesson are needed. The best insurance policy you could ever have is Jesus Christ Mutual Life. Share some of your lifes experiences, I for one would enjoy hearing them, good or bad, its what makes us who we are! Remember if God didn’t want us to fight, he wouldn’t have given us Trigger fingers!

          • ” Remember if God didn’t want us to fight, he wouldn’t have given us Trigger fingers!”

            Two thumbs up! LOL 🙂

            (I know, I’ve been told I am easily amused)

            • POA, I’m easily amused too.

              The good news is, we’ll never be bored!

        • Fred,

          Don’t give up hope. Come to Greece. I’m sure it’s not going to get much more worse than it is already 🙂

          Seriously now. As Copout said, life is worth living until the last moment. Trust in your inner powers, and trust God.
          When the time comes, you will know what to do.
          My best wishes

        • hey fred, there are gonna be a lot of people just like you that will pull together when times are tough. look at japan when they got wiped out. they all helped each other out for the most part. there will be a lot of thugs but they will be killed so id wouldnt worry about them

          • WE are NOT the Japanese…

        • you gotta stick around.ifyou don’t we’re gonna split up your stuff[humor].

        • Wait!
          What’s this about bars disappearing!

        • Copout Could not have said it better myself. Totally agree, those older than us, no matter what our age, have something to offer tat is irreplaceable. If Fred has something to say I will listen.

          • My mother is 72 and she is one amazing woman, bless her heart! I told her that she HAS to stay healthy cuz I’ve still got so much to learn from her! When the SHTF, I want her on MY team!! She might not be able to shoot a gun, but momma will keep us all very well fed…that woman can make a complete meal out of a hole in the ground filled with hot coals!
            Our seniors have seen rough times before….they have a wealth of information that we can use to help us in many different situations!

        • It isn’t called the golden years for nothing. There is a mother lode of gold in your years to share with others. You are a victor of time, good or bad, you made it this far. If I hadn’t listened to the older folks during my youth, I wouldn’t have understood the great depression as I do. School didn’t taech the truth nor the minute details of the great depression.
          Thank you for sharing with us your golden years.

      4. This is great. Can’t wait to read it. Patriots really opened my eyes.

      5. Another acronym people talk about like a substitute for SHTF is WROL.

        Short for Without Rule of Law.

        POTUS kills a US citizen with no trial, no evidence, etc.

        Banks screw the pooch and keep their bonuses.

        Are we not already living WROL?

        Has not the S already hit the F?

        • Yah. This is the way it works out. If you had known about this 10 years ago, would you have taken action to shield yourself? Would your family and friends support you? We all live under intrinsic rules that most follow and some don’t. The obligation to follow these rules can involve some thought and some times require split seconds to decide. The way I look at it is that we were all thrown into this not by our own choice but through blatant disregard for our well being and futures. Ultimately, we are all responsible for the decisions that we make under very specific sets of conditions. Keep it simple!

      6. In truth the odds will be against you no matter how prepared you are. The ruthlessness of society will last for some time and small bands will begin to emerge as people rebuild as close to what was as they can. Every beginning started with an end. Just have to be mentally prepared for what will be and I think most will parish simple because we are so detached from the Earth we live upon. After all it’s easy to go to the grocery store if you’re hungry. Target has a great clothing aisle. What always amazes me is that they make it seem as though we can never make it without all the modern conveniences. We have only had these things for the last couple hundred years or so, our ancestors made it so will I!
        Sad days we live in, be blessed.

      7. Well you could hunt bankers and politicians with out a licences.

        • Oh heck. I don’t care if they’ve got a license or not. 😉

        • Don’t hunt them, they’ll come to you. Set a feeder out, fill it with coins/fiat money, they’ll come. This way, we know they are bankers and politicans: they’ll try to steal the feeder.
          I do like the statement: without a licence.

      8. I finished Patriots over the summer and really liked it! It started kind of slow for me, but picked up after awhile and I could not put it down. Will be ordering this new one really soon.

      9. I sure hope this one is better written than the first one was. Patriots, while a good story and full of information, read like it was written by some goofball who had no idea how to write.

      10. like the review, but everybody knows the real Godfather of Modern Survival is Mel Tappan.

      11. I placed my order a few hours ago. Last time I checked the book was ranked #5 on Amazon.

        If this book “wakes up” a few more hundred Americans, then mission accomplished.

        • Yeah, a few more hundred awake might bring us to .0001% prepared??

      12. I’v read the first two they very real world sanarios if TSHTF. For me the books are short reads because you do tout it down. I think Patriot would be a great movie.

        • I also think Patriots would be a good movie – IF done properly. Red Dawn was good for it’s day, and today remains watchable but the scenarios, due to limited amount of story telling time, were unrealistic. I’m also hesitant about the new remake of Red Dawn… I really wish they would have continued the BBC series Survivors (netflix it), as I thought that was done pretty well.

          Survivors is up to #3 now. Having read Patriots, One Second After, and Lights Out (my favorite), I’m really looking forward Survivors.

      13. Sorry, gotta pass on this one. The first one lacked any human emotion that would have given a feel of reality to it and it seemed like nothing more than this guys wet dream for everything to fall apart and he is left standing to guide the survivors. From the start it seemed unrealistic as he had everyone needed in his group. How many of us have that. And then for everyoen to all be on the same page, hunker down together, and all gos peachy king…everyone gets along. I dunno, I worry that people are really taking this as a “guide” rather than fiction and there are much more worthy how-to manuals out there. Just not my cup of tea. As far as info on firearms, I’ll take articles by Ayoob. Very informative.

        • I see where you’re coming from. However, I would argue that those types of people (with the skill sets) are not that hard to network with. There are always friends of friends. For example, I just had lunch with a friend that wasn’t aware that I was a prepper. She’s home from deployment for a while and we got to talking about current events. She mentions she’s looking for land out west which led me to prod a little more. Turns out she has a network of friends with these skill sets (or close to it). I then revealed that I had been prepping for quite some time and that I’d be interested in hearing more of her ideas.

          Point is, through programs like CERT, volunteering, even just general conversation, you can identify these people – if nothing else get them agree to a really point in case of an emergency (could be a parking lot) to help each other. You do have to make the effort, these people won’t just knock on your door.

      14. I read Rawles’ first book and it was ok, but he includes a lot of his own personal beliefs as “right” and has characters who hold opposing or dissenting views and casts them as “wrong.” I like him and he’s taught me a lot, but mostly what he’s taught me is that I am not going to make it.

        I’m with Fred. I have asthma, allergies, and need contacts to see well. My wife has frail health and macular degeneration, which will eventually leave her unable to see. I doubt you will be seeing either of us alive in Rawles’ “every man needs to be a jack-of-all-trades,” kill-or-be-killed world. At least I’m saved in the Lord Jesus Christ, now just praying the Mrs. will accept Him as her Savior, too.

        Take care, everyone…

        • Scott!! all we have to do is ask for forgivness. AND MEAN IT!! I will pray for you and your wife be well GOD BLESS.

          • Scott: Ditto what johnnyg saids!

        • You may be surprised at what the future holds for you. God has a plan and until He is through with you (in this life) you ain’t going nowhere.

        • But, Scott—–I pray that we prepping fools are gonna take care of you guys…you don’t think we’re storing extra for welfare mama with 10 kids do ya, or the drunk with the addict wife?? Naaahhhh.
          It’s you we’re saving extra for, dude.
          “The will of God will never take you where the grace of God will not protect you”
          He will provide….through righteous, saved, christians like we prepping fools on this blog.
          Welcome to humanity.

          • JJ, not fools but guided. Christians prepping makes all the sense. The ones not prepping are the fools, you can see them in many/most churches. The sad part is; we should be able to trust each christian(said christians) but we can’t.

      15. Any book or movie that can make you think about what could happen is ok. They provide opportunities for ideas to form. Make you think about things you may never have considered. Alert you to dangers you didn’t know existed, etc.

        • HEY FOLK’S; I KNOW OF A GREAT BOOK. ITS CALLED THE BIBLE.. and if you ask to understand it; the lord will help!!!! as we can all see that EVIL AND GREED has brought us to this point.. Jesus asks for love only; for ourselves and each other..this world we live in has lost touch with god. time to find him again!!!!!! peace to all may you find his love…

          • And jump right in there and read Luke 21…first.

        • Here s an unexpected danger…..feel down the stairs last week…..5 fracture, in a wheelchair, 3 months to recover
          Am prepped pretty good. If I could t have gotten in the hospital it would have been real bad…thats what’s scary but God is with me. Praise Jesus Christ! And help for you…manos

      16. It is not whether you think you will live or die when the shtf. It’s what you have done to justify your life that counts.

        We ALL are going to die. Don’t count out any contribution that you can make to the lives of others. Your contributions can make a world of difference to those who will benefit from knowing you.

        My husbands’ health is very fragile too. He is over 300 miles away waiting for a heart transplant. We talk several times every day. He is my inspiration and my strength to keep on prepping like I do.

        If he were to die in the near future, I would keep on going, because that is what he would want me to do for myself and our children/grandchildren.

        And the most important thing is that he would be there with me. He is part of me and my life. He may physically be gone from this world, but there is a whole lot of my husband in me. And I am very thankful for that.

        God bless and keep on prepping.

        • Mona,

          My prayers for you and your husband.
          May our Lord keep him safe, and give you strength.
          I wish for the best.


        • Sometimes I see real strength and realize we ALL have our parts to play.

          Thank you for the inspiration.

        • I have a new one to keep in my prayers today and tonight..God give you strength, Mona.

        • Mona,

          Your kind words in the past helped me while I was unemployed. I will pray for your husband and you, just know we are praying and thinking of you.


      17. I read patriots – it was ok. I did order this one and I hope since rawles has some writing under his belt this one will be better. But the beginning dragged on far too long, the dialogue was very unnatural especially when firearms were involved, and it was hard to fathom that a group of college students would have had the wherewithal to have created such a plan and execute it later in life so well.

        But- it served the purpose of opening my eyes to a worst case scenario, lots of things to consider as far as prepping, security, and the fact that you can’t do it alone.

        I think “Lights Out” and “One Second After” are more realistic, in that these are about people who weren’t really preparing for anything before the shtf and how they dealt with things.

        With Rawles’ knowledge, I think it would be a more effective eye opener if it were written more like a story and less like a manual, but we’ll see – I’ll still read it cover to cover, probably twice.

      18. I’m not ready yet. I still don’t have enough kerosene. I bought some today but I still need more. I prefer kerosene heaters to burning wood because after it hits the fan I don’t want to be announcing to the world that I have heat.

        There’s a good chance that the collapse will happen either just before winter or during winter. I see that as a good thing. It would be better for people to freeze than to starve. That would mean a faster drop in the number of people who would be a threat to those with food.

        • Bill, Just curious what you are paying for kero? I just had a stabilized 55gal tank delivered for 219 bucks. Just wondering what it costs around the country.

      19. Fozzy,

        Don’t forget attorneys too 🙂

      20. Just finished “One Second After”…reading “Lights Out” and my copy of “Survivors” is on the way via Amazon….

        I almost need my wife to hide my wallet so I don’t buy a bunker on 50 acres somewhere out in the sticks and start moving my preps into it….

      21. I’m currently reading “When all hell breaks loose”, good tips but I think I like the idea of a novel better. I Liked the TV series The Colony but I’m now noticing pack rat tendencies.
        “Don’t throw that away, we might need to build a windmill someday!”

        • Sandy: What happened to the colony program, been waiting too see it again, a new one called I cavemen aired Sunday night on curiosity, good program. There have been a lot of Survivalist shows as of late, I wonder what going on, a collapse or false flag, umm?

          • Copout: I don’t know, the website doesn’t confirm if it’s been canceled, I’m hoping they’re just selecting a new batch of victims & location. I thought it had some educational points to it so I let my kids watch it with me. The boy thought it was coool, we lost the girl after they ate the fried cockroaches. Yes, there are more & more
            survivalist shows on but I’m just as concerned with why they’re flooding us with alien movies, tv shows, cartoons, etc. Setting the stage, perhaps? Do I sound paranoid?

            • Sandy: No you dont sound paranoid, just aware, as far as the roaches, keep some chocolate, marshmellows, and graham crackers on hand for Roachmores, yummy!

      22. I liked Patriots and bought this one. I am in the middle of reading JF Perkins’ RENEWAL from the Kindle Store on Amazon. VERY good post-apoc novel with nice characterization. Book is sold in small .99 cent chunks with about 10 installments in total. Get it!

        • Upon reading it I have to say its well written but I can;t get over his main conceit that Europe will be in generally good shape while America is engulfed in flames from rioting. Sorry, I see the opposite happening.

      23. I’ve ordered it, despite seriously disagreeing with the idea of living in a remote defensible retreat during times of crisis; it’s impractical due to conflicts between families at times of high stress and dangerous for families with young children during normal times; for example, one major blizzard and nobody can get to hospital because helicopters are grounded and roads closed. Better to be part of small self-sufficient community. That way everyone keeps their own private space and there are many more eyes on guard than would be possible in a remote retreat setup.

      24. Read Patriots, ordered the second one. I have a waiting list of friends who want to read it after me. While we are on the subject of books, might I take a moment to shamelessly promote mine? I recently wrote a fictional novel set during the crash of 1929. Three couples lose everything and have to scratch out a life in the slums of New York. It is NOT a survial guide, nor is it a preppers manual, but more relatable fiction. I’d love to get some feedback!

        I am also working on a Poor Woman’s Guide to Prepping in the 11th hour. Started as notes to my friends and morphed into a basic prepper book for the novice. Nothing folks here wouldn’t already know though.

      25. MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!

        B of A refusing customers access into bank to get their money out…

        SWAT team standing guard to keep people from taking their own money out..

        Bank Run Fears Looming….

        This is getting UGLY!!

        • Well, it’s not like you didn’t warn BofA customers/clients!!!
          I called my dh and told him to tell everybody and he said f**k ’em..well, he did!!!
          He’s around loggers all day—what can I do??

      26. I have read Jim Rawles Patriots/survive TEOTWAWKI,an i was impressed with bothy, BUT the best THING; SURVIVALBLOG.COM IS FREE!!!! all that info and diy materials and you can start ur own archive THANK GOD for something that has the potential to save or @ least help countless millions( with the intellilect and vision to see we need it) i live in HAWAII, a teat state, the govt, BLOBAMA ,OR SOMEBOBY WILL SAVE US MENTALITY.When you even say prep to anyone, UR A CRAZY FUC**** HAOLE.SOMEWHAT, BUT ONE WHO SEE THE FOREST AND REALITY,GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL/GOD BLESS, AND HOPE YOU AT LEAST DIE FAST AND WITH MIN. SUFFERING AND YOU LEAVE A PILE OF BRASS NEAR YOUR A$$, SO THE CAN KISS IT, AS THEY PICK IT UP FOR RELOADING.

      27. “What If the World As We Know It Ended Tomorrow?”

        I would put a gun in my mouth and pull the trigger. 🙁

        • King crazy,

          You don’t need to do such a thing. There is always hope. Even in the deep shit, the human nature survives through hope.
          I suggest you watch “The road” , and “The book of Eli”.
          Both movies discuss about this small sparkle which still remains burning, in the dark.

          Be safe. I hope you don’t do it. Bullets cost 🙂

          • Dear Manos,
            As much as I hate to disagree with you because I always enjoy reading your posts,
            I wanted to put a gun in my own mouth after watching The Road….
            I had to go in the closet were my wife and kids couldn’t see me where I proceeded to ball like a baby.
            It was the saddest, most depressing movie I have ever seen.
            Suggesting a depressed person watch The Road, is like inviting a recovering gambling addict to go with you to Vegas. IMHO

            • Slick,

              Fair enough. My wife hated it.
              It was a tough one indeed, but it gave me a sense of hope.
              Thanks for your comments.

              Be safe.

            • Don’t kill the messenger… the Road was a wake up call for me. mow I’m out of the US prepped up in a farming community. Too many guns I respectfully submit who can tell whos who when the shooting starts. Survive Now is my best advice ’cause the SHTF awhile back – TPTB just have been suppressing the truth as usual. Get as far away as you can and peace be with you!

        • Please don’t say that. I’m sure someone somewhere needs you. You may not even know them yet. It is amazing where we find strength when we need to.

        • Hey! just move to another place. Starting over is a kick ass way to beat the blues. Live cheap and save your money! Check it out.

        • I always think of it this way, King Crazy:

          Is my life perfect right now?


          If there was a huge change, how am I to know if it would be for the worse?

          I don’t.

          I think some people will really find their place in the world given an awful situation. It seems like you’ve had a rough time lately. If money problems suddenly didn’t matter anymore, that would lighten your burden. Not to say that it wouldn’t be replaced with other burdens but you might not find them so intolerable.

          Thinking of you.

      28. If you have family members and/or older kids (teenagers and up) who aren’t overly receptive to “read this great book”, watch the series “Jericho” and/or “Jeremiah” with them.

        The scenarios would open up discussion and afterward would be a great time to talk about things. They may also gain a better understanding of why you have food storage, plant a garden, have guns & ammo, etc.

        Both series are available on Netflix.

        • I LOVED Jericho. I was so upset when it ended, 🙁

          • Finished the series tonight, Daisy!! LOVED it!!! I’ve heard there’s a movie coming out…do you know if that’s true?

      29. Look people,don’t get all worked up over these fiction books. It is just a mans vision of how he would survive an end of social collapse.

        A lot of us here went through this in the 70’s.
        I personally know a family that was ready for Y2K .(that big farce) Anyway, their house was the first house to burn to the ground with nothing saved.All of there preppin was for nothing. It was a controlled burn by the forest service people.

        So don’t think to yourself I am ready.

        I assume most of you know the bible verse of the wealthy man who’s grain barns were full. If you don’t,well it didn’t end well for him. God required his soul that day.

        You just need to get a grip. We will all die but let it happen don’t make it happen.

        Your survival after death is more important than this life. And there is only one Savior.That’s the prepping that needs to be done.

        • Remember the story of Joseph, he prepped for seven years, and yes your eternal destiny is permanent!

          • Well, then there’s Noah…he prepped for a looooong time, scholars say 120 years, and they ridiculed him…but in the end??
            Yep—we’re doing the right thing.

            • His family & him got to re-populate the world.

        • wow!!!! is all i can!!!! thank you !!!

      30. KY Mom, I have watched the two series you speak of. They are very informative. Also “The Survivers” The British series about a plague that wipes out 90% of the population. Also does anyoen know how I can get some medicines that need presriptions without being a nurse or doctor? In the book Patriots, one of the characters was able to get blood transfusion equiment and anastitics, I went to a medical prep site, however some supplies you can only get if you are a nurse or doctor. I need to complet my first aid prep kit with some serious supplies. I have surgical supplies. Need supplies for gun shot wounds. I’m the one in my family reading and studying, and would dare to remove a bullet in an emergency. We hunt a lot here in Maine and I am certain if food was in short supply there would be a lot more people hunting. More chances for accidental shooting. And if their is no doctor someone would have to do something. That would be me. I need supples. HELP’

        Stay prayed up, keep prepping.

        • Lyndia from rural Maine,

          Hi! There are a couple great medical resource books that you can download for free.

          “Where There is No Doctor” and “Where There is No Dentist” (These books are available in a number of languages)

          They are medical books written in plain English with lots of pictures. The first one covers first aid, common illnesses, nutrition, a number of medical problems – treatment and prevention. These books are used extensively by health workers in many countries.

          Scroll down the page to – English titles for download.

          Hope you find these helpful.

          Keep praying and prepping!
          KY Mom

          There are a number of good books on herbal medicine (at Amazon) you might be interested in.

        • Some trauma injuries take specialists. Like gun shot wounds for sure. If the site is a leg or an arm, you would be most likely manage on your own with Emergency medical training and the supplies to cover bleeding and shock. A hit to the torso with a modern rifle bullet is a whole different situation. There are ways to deal with this but time will be against you. You will have no choice but to seek a physician and the facilities for a longer stay. I suggest taking an EMT class. There, you can explore more resources through the contacts that you make. Prescription meds and antibiotics are available online. I had the link at one time but try searching this site: Another site for your concerns will help as well:
          Enroll in an EMT class and god bless.

          • this the website you’re thinking of? I found it on I just ordered an antibiotic pack today!

        • Hi Lynda. I had my “need med supplies NOW” fraekout a couple of months ago. Two of the best items I have found were Quick Clot Sport (Wally World, $10 ea.) and some aquarium antibiotics I purchased at a feed store. The antibiotic product is called Fishcillin, 100ea. 250mg. Ampicillin capsules for about $25. Now, this isn’t FDA approved, for whatever that is worth to you, but I personally know two people who have used this antibiotic to knock out bronchitis just fine. They never even grew gills! I have used it on my goats with no ill effect, saved a huge vet bill. Hope this helps.

      31. Looking forward to the Patriots follow-up. It will be hard to top that though.

      32. I don’t need another book to tell me what is going to happen. It is all in the last book of the Bible. It’s
        called “Revelation” !
        May the Lord Bless you All!

        • Semper fi MY BROTHER bless you as well. former marine!

      33. I’ve been cruising the Red Rocks the last couple of days, got caught in a Vortex. What day is it?

      34. First book was excellent. Can’t wait to start this one. Glad to see you helping out with sales Mac. When does your book come out? 🙂

      35. Just order this book. Amazon is fantastic and shipping to Afghanistan is fairly quick. I can usually knock out a good book in a couple of days. I am looking forward to a good read.

      36. If you want to learn survival, don’t read a book. Find some place where you can walk into the woods on a Friday afternoon, with a box of matches, a pocket knife, an empty coke can and a pocket full of string and beef stock cubes. That’s it. Nothing else. Now stay out there till Sunday night. See how you go.
        Most survival ‘experts’ have only ever ‘read’ about it. Nothing like putting yourself up for a challenge for a couple days and seeing what it’s like

      37. I’m not sure what will be worse, the MZB’s or the religious kooks.

      38. Nobody here that i know of, talks about religion, for myself its about relationship with the creator of the universe, you should really consider talking to him some time, that is if you feel you can do things on your own to perfection, something to consider before you leave this earth, you know some people say hey you use that Jesus as a crutch, my reply is yeah! but thats not bad when you are handicapped! Thanks for your open minded comment!

        • just like!!! ONE SET OF FOOT PRINTS IN THE SAND.. FOR THAT IS WHEN I CARRIED YOU!!!!!!!!.. and by the way ITS NOT RELIGION… ITS CALLED HOPE FAITH AND LOVE…. try a little of each.. IT WORKS.. peace all

      39. Saw the movie “Contagion” yesterday. It was ok, nothing special. Had some interesting SHTF scenarios in it for those interested. They went very light on the lack of food situation in the movie.

      40. I don’t bother contemplating what I would do if the scenario outlined in this book, or rather, in all ‘doomsday’ type books came to pass. I already know what would happen. As I have Type 1 diabetes, and am therefore dependent on injected insulin if I want to stay alive, the kind of disruption to the medical supply chain implied in this book would kill every man, woman and most importantly, child with this disorder. Let me elaborate, especially for those who are unfamiliar with the condition and what it takes to live with it. Unlike Type 2 diabetes, which is linked to inactivity, obesity, being older, and a processed carbohydrate-heavy diet and occasionally, being of a minority ethnic group (African American, Hispanic, Pacific Islander or Native American heritage) subject to our crap Western Diet, Type 1 diabetes is where the immune system decides to mistakently kill off the cells in the pancreas that produce the hormone insulin. Without that hormone, the cells of the body cannot utilize one’s own blood glucose, since insulin acts to ‘open’ up the glucose receptors in the cells’ membranes to let glucose pass through. Long story short, once those beta cells in the pancreas are dead, they’re gone forever. Before the discovery and introduction of commercially-available injectable insulin, Type 1 diabetes was ALWAYS a fatal condition. A child (and it strikes those under the age of 30 far more often than it strikes older people) who contracted this had maybe two years to live, usually less. The advent of insulin meant that the condition went from being fatal to being ‘manageable’ (a misnomer – just ask anyone who has it). However, insulin is all we have to treat this illness – the person with it becomes dependent on a regular and uninterrupted supply of the injectable hormone. I have to take at least seven shots a day of two different types of insulin to try to mimic the actions of a fully functioning internal organ. Needless to say, trying to manage this disease is a bit of a roller coaster ride, one I do on a daily basis. How well I do it depends on whether or not I have insulin, needles, blood testing strips, a blood meter handy, glucose tablets to take care of the dangerous hypoglycemic episodes the injected hormone causes and so on and so forth. I won’t even go into how critical it is for someone like me to have access to doctors and endocrinologists, to a lab that can do the necessary HA1C and other tests that let those doctors know how well I’m doing at trying to keep things somewhat under control.

        Now, lets see what happens when those of us who rely on critical medicines to live (I cannot go without insulin for more than a few hours), find that the supply has been cut off, or is available only to the wealthy or well-connected.

        First, the longer the supply disruption lasts, the more deaths will occur, since most Type 1’s with the means and insurance keep at least 4-6 months of insulin on hand, for situations such as a job loss or the loss of health insurance due to a job switch. After that runs out, you’ll start hearing reports of Type 1’s killing themselves, if they’re adults, or parents of Type 1 children putting their children down (and by putting down, I mean killing them outright) rather than having to watch them die the horrible death that awaits a Type 1 diabetic with no access to insulin. Basically, what happens is the diabetic starves to death from the inside out, as the body utilizes its fat and then its muscle to try to remain alive. One becomes a walking skeleton. Thankfully, I think most Type 1’s would rather put a bullet in their brains, or their children’s brains, than have them endure that kind of suffering.

        Ther is no cure for this kind of diabetes, no way of stopping the autoimmune response once it starts and no better treatment available than a hormone discovered 80 years ago. If the end of civilization came, it would mean that people like myself would be weeded out by nature herself, liquified as we literally wasted away from the starvation. It would be going back to the nineteenth century for us. From many of the posts on sites like this, where the attitude of many is ‘only the strongest SHOULD survive’, I believe that yes, you people would get your wish. The weak and the sick and the chronically ill wouldn’t be around to drag the rest of you down. You could have your little Social Darwinism utopia, where people like me are left by the side of the road, genetic cast-offs in the great evolutionary race. Maybe, from a species standpoint, humanity would be much better off. It’s something I’ve spent time thinking about, in the wee hours of the morning, when I can’t sleep and I worry about the ‘what ifs’ that are associated with my condition. What if I simply couldn’t get the drug I need to stay alive? What if it came down to killing someone else in order to take the drugs I needed to live for another month? Would I have the fortitude to just put the barrel of a pistol in my mouth and pull the trigger, rather than die a painful, horrific death as my body wasted away, suffering from a thirst that can never be quenched?

        Perhaps it is for these reasons, and these fears about the lack of willingness of the part of my fellow man to help care for or about people like myself, that I chose to have a hysterectomy, rather than face bringing another person into the world that might also have the genetic makeup that makes them susceptible to manifesting as a Type 1 diabetic. My own father, also a Type 1, passed it on to me. While I do not begrudge him this, as the genetic understanding of this illness wasn’t realized yet in the late 1960’s, I find that as someone who does know the odds of passing on a genetic fault, I wouldn’t be able to look at myself if a child of mine ended up with it. To pass the potential for a lifelone burden, one that the world and its human inhabitants have no patience, time or willing resources to deal with or try to cure seems unconscionable. We are already discriminated against when it comes to health insurance, certain jobs, employment and other, less obvious areas in our culture. In the kind of scenario this book talks about, indeed, in most speculative fiction, fantasy, sci-fi and other genres, people with chronic disabilities either don’t exist, are presumed to have died young and thus aren’t present, or have conveniently died out early on in the book in the aftermath of whatever cataclysm befalls the majority of humanity, leaving only the ‘fittest’ for the author to write about. Still, as I read these sorts of things, I already know, deep down, where I would be in such a world…

        I would like the rest of the chronically ill, be dead.

      41. Hi CJ
        I hope I di not appear insensitive to your condition. I am not. I have people in my family with type 2 diabetes. I have been searching on the inter-net for meds to keep on hand for them. Thank you so much for explaining the disease process to me. I believe in God and salvation. We will all die one day. But I believe physical death is not the end for us. CJ there is eternal life for thoes who accept the grace of Jesus Christ. God has a plan for all of us. I do not mean to preach to you. I was very touched by your post. I am one of thoes people who really feel the pain of others. It is a gift from God. I have always been this way, even as a child. I to have experienced a lot of pain and suffering in my life. Lost my first husband at a young age to cancer. Have lost a lot of that Greatest Generation to old age. Most of them are gone now. I will see them again. I am as sure of that as I am that I am sitting here responding to you. I know what it is like to lie awake at night worried about health issues of family.

        If things ever get as bad as they are in the books we read, I am not so sure thoes of us left here will be the lucky ones. It is one thing to sit here and imagine and prep for these times, but we all know it will be absolely hell on earth for a time.

        I happen to believe our only hope is the return of the true Christ. Not the fake one that comes first.

        I will pray for you. God does love you.

      42. Linda: Awesome, King of Kings!

      43. All these medical conditions you have, and all this shit talk about ‘Im not gonna make it’ or ‘I dont want to move on’.. Shit or get off the pot. Want to know what I believe in? Bullets.
        They make me believe in myself every time I hear the noise of one.

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