Market Update: “Logic Has Been Replaced by Fear, By Panic”

by | Jan 21, 2013 | Commodities, Precious Metals | 266 comments

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    Diversification during times of uncertainty and instability means different things to different people. For most of us looking to keep our eggs in different baskets, hard asset are a primary investment vehicle. As more dollars are printed by our central bank and more debt is borrowed to cover our government’s expenditures, there’s one thing we can be sure off: prices for essential resources are going up.

    As our paper currencies lose value against the things that really matter, and the political situation takes a turn for the worse through more domestic taxation and regulation, it becomes difficult to discern where we can ‘park’ our money to keep it safe.

    For many preparedness-minded individuals the survival instinct kicks in and the first thing we do is stock up on the essentials which will either disappear at the first signs of emergency or rise in value as crisis grips the world. That means things like food, precious metals, firearms, farmland and other important supplies and resources that will matter when the system as we know it comes unhinged. This is a prudent strategy to be sure, and those who invested in such assets before the 2008 financial crisis have seen positive investment gains employing it – not to mention the security of knowing you have a backup should things spiral out of control.

    And, while it’s prudent to plan for the worst and have direct access to physical assets and commodities, an equally important consideration is how to properly diversify the funds we hold in our money market accounts, cash savings, 401k’s or IRA retirement accounts. Millions of Americans have their life savings in these types of accounts, and most of them are depending on a stable and fair ‘free market’ to keep that money safe.

    But, as Casey Research Chief Strategist Marin Katusa notes, we’re not exactly operating in a free market, or a stable environment, for that matter:

    That is exactly the market we are in right now, where people are scared. Where people are selling on emotion. Where the logic has been replaced by fear, by panic.

    Emotion is leading the market, and that’s where the level-headed logical buyer is going to make a fortune in the years coming by basing their investments on a fundamental 8 P’s principle – on people.

    For those looking to expand their portfolios and diversify their assets in ways your financial adviser doesn’t even have a clue exist, listen to the complete interview from Future Money Trends and Marin Katusa, who discusses strategies for investing in physical precious metals, international precious metals exploration and mining, energy resources and other non-traditional investment vehicles.

    When we talk about worst-case-scenario diversification, we need to look at investment opportunities in a different light, often counter to traditional expert analysis. Long known for their ability to foresee crisis situations, Doug Casey and his team, which includes Marin Katusa who manages the firm’s KCR Fund, have been guiding investors for decades and were well ahead of the curve during the first stage of the global collapse we experienced over the last decade. They, like many of those who understand what’s coming our way, have been investing heavily into resources like physical commodities, precious metals, technology and land, much of it internationally to escape the draconian intervention of the U.S. government.

    In the coming years we will see strife and financial destruction unlike anything in history. But during times of panic and fear, certain assets will always come out ahead.

    I really believe by the end of 2013 we will see [gold] touch and cross $2000 [per ounce]. It may come back, and then settle back again.

    You’ll see this is a huge psychological barrier.

    And I think that the mainstream media, that the mainstream retail investors, until it breaks that $2000 it won’t attract that mass media attention. But I think 2013 is a critical year.

    Look what’s going on with the fiscal cliff. Look what’s going on in Europe. Look at Asia, India, all these places.

    And, gold is the real currency.

    As Doug Casey recently noted, “we are living in the middle of the biggest bubble in history.”

    This means we need to be looking at ways to shield ourselves and our assets from a complete collapse of the system as we have come to know it.


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      1. Time to short the market?

        • Maybe. But markets can often remain irrational longer than you can stay liquid.

          • Wallstreet and its Agents /manipulators /merchants / aka Analysts are tools to manipulate the country’s economy. 🙁

            It’s primarily for the interest of the manipulators and the richest (1% of the world.)

            Oil was less than 50 CENTS per gallon in the 50s when it was NOT listed on the stock exchange, but increased tremendously to over several hundred % when Wallstreet has their eyes on it.

            The author (Mac) and no one could ever predict it, that Wallstreet would be able to CONTROL THE WORLDS ECONOMY. But they did and still do to this day.

            Everybody knows it, and nobody can’t do anything about it.

        • I don’t know about shorting — that’s always been a dangerous proposition for me, especially considering that I am not a short-term trader.

          Investing in well managed companies that actually produce something of value – industrial metals, precious metals, food, oil, clean water, etc. – is something we have focused on.

          With everything going on in terms of regulation and taxation in U.S., I’d suggest looking at foreign companies as well. There are great companies – producers – in Canada, South America, Australia, and Asia… Some pay solid dividends as well, so you get the added benefit of a monthly income and the potential for growth. This is something we’ve looked at for my parents’ retirement funds.

          The fact is, you can’t just stock up on bulk foods and ammo to fill a warehouse.. If you’re 50 or 60 years old and have savings, I think it is important to diversify those assets now — into various companies in the spheres of agriculture, energy, and mining. Likewise, due to regulations and taxation and the general business climate, I’d say AT LEAST 50% of one’s stock related investments should be outside of the US — this gives at least some level of protection against domestic disaster.

          Basically, we took our prepping strategy of holding physical assets, and looked for companies that essentially create those products or source those resources. It’s not foolproof, of course, but, in my opinion, it’s better than sitting in overblown stocks that have benefited from hundreds of billions of infused dollars into US markets… I have no faith in retail stores that sell electronics or producers of the hottest over-priced cell phone… Those are going to get hammered once Americans run out of savings and continue to lose jobs… However, food and other key resources are always going to have some level of demand… In many cases our decision to go with a particular company was not so much about making money as it was about PRESERVING the value of our money.

          Nothing is guaranteed, and no single strategy fits everyone, but some diversification is in order.

          I noted Casey Research here simply because they have a wealth of knowledge and research available; that and I have been a fan of Doug Casey’s strategies and opinions for many years. I am not an investment analyst — but they are, so go with the experts if you lack the knowledge yourself (just be sure they are experts who get what’s going on right now!)

          • If you are still in the stock market right now….. then you are a retard !

            • COF: Yes, if I were like you and didn’t know what I was doing. However, last year I made 9&1/2% on my money, how are you doing? During the crisis of 2007-2008 I moved all of my money out of stocks and into bonds and didn’t lose a dime, in fact I made a little money while my co-workers all bled out.

              • Wouldn’t 9.5% be easier than 9&1/2% for such a smart guy?

                just sayin

                • or more like 9.5″…most guys like him eventually get bent over…hard.

                  • lastmanstanding: Haven’t been bent over yet smart guy. I was safe in both the 2000 Dotcom. bubble and again in the 2007-2008 real estate bubble. Made money both times, never lost a dime. How’d you do Einstein? I’m like a moving target when it comes to my investments, harder to hit. Will I make a bad move someday, maybe. But for now I way ahead of the game unlike you and the other ‘thumbs down’ mental midgets who can’t even read the financial page. Stick to CDs and Savings Bonds so you won’t sprain your brain.

                  • At least he got in the game. Timing is everything. Late or early you can lose no matter how right you are as to picks.

                • BJ: It’s still more than you’ll ever make pal. Dream on small minds!

              • USA today fawns over stocks being up 85% during 0’s first term.

                Elevators usually don’t go down very far from the first floor.

            • I got out in 2007 best choice i made….

              • Especially if you got back in again in 2009. If this thing hits 14,000 again I believe some out of the money DOW puts are a good play.

            • Roger that. They are just talking it up cause thats their business, livelyhood.

            • Exactly. I’d rather invest in lead.

              • In what seems now like a previous life, I bought and saved stocks, trying to build a portfolio. Cash and mutual funds were accumilated in a 401k. I had dreams of investing in real estate, mostly commercial, and securing a retirement income based on the rental stream.

                All gone. 401k liquidated, mostly to pay taxes, and square up some debt. Drteams? Yeah, right. No one can get speculation loans for anything. I build commercial buildings. I have a high net worth client with a note on a property he could pay tens times over in cash, and the bank is calling the note. Makes no sense at all.

                The market is a joke and a casino. High frequency traders and inside info, your getting fleeced. Some will get “lucky”. Brings to mind the old adage, “if you sit down at a card game, and don’t know who the sucker is, it’s you”.

                I have managed to secure some PMs. My business how much:). And I stay up to date with the market, for warning signs. But seriuosly, I cannot for the life of me, understand how this whole f*ing convoluted Monopoly game ponzi sceme has held together this long. Are TPTB that good? There are times, I admit, when I doubt my insticts. But the writing on the wall, and history, just tells me this fucker is going to crash, and crash hard. It’s just waitng for that one black swan, or unforseen event to get the ball rolling. I feels it in ma bones. Don’t you guys feel it? That impending sense of doom. That which says saving for tomorrow means prepping today.

                And on top of everything, this country elects an “idol” and worships him. And the guy has not got a clue. If he ran a lemonade stand, he would run out of water. I swear, I’m waiting to see his cocky smile on posters everywhere, like Saddam or Kim jung Il. Our Fearless Leader. Our Man God. And Time prints a cover with “Second Coming” WTF??. I truly can’t believe it. A once great nation of hard working, independant citizens, turned into Gov Corp idol worshippers.

                So, who wants to invest in the market, you know, for the future? Who feels good with a nice little couple hundred grand nest egg? You struggle and slave for it, they push a button, create it out of thin air, and give it away. Hey, here’s a prediction. The gov took over student loans. Let’s start a pool to guess the date Obama, by EO, “forgives” the debt. That’s a nice chunk of bought and paid for voters, eh? Couldn’t really do it too easy with the banks involved. Who doesn’t see that one.

                Rant over. Happy Inauguration!

                • Hi Rick,

                  I agree with what your saying. I had to lol at the card game analogy if you don’t know who the sucker is lol I’m going to use that if you don’t mind.

                  Take care

                  Fairy (UK) xx

                • rick – your right on with the student debt senario .
                  he will pardon the debt about the time the dems announce their next candidate around 2014 so that person can use it as a prop .
                  and i get the previous life thing ,as a homebuilder life was good , now …not so much. the new energy code regs coming out of obama’s beloved UN will kill any chances for a recovery there , so yup , i feel the gloom as well.

                  good luck

                  • Worse than that. “Free” college education is not far behind.

                  • When the economy implodes and takes down the dollar student debt will automatically be wiped out. Savings will be wiped out. Mortgages? They will likely protect the banks not the home owners. Good luck, you are on your own.

                • Armageddon Virus
                  You know by this point it’s not IF the system will fail, it’s simply a matter of when. Come on, think this all through. When the break down REALLY starts….IF you were at the top…one of the Illuminati/PTB/ what would you do? Stand by while the system melts down and people go completely crazy, destroying everything? NO…they have a plan already in place and ready to go.
                  Truth is there simply aren’t enough police/military to control the population. So what do you do? I`ll tell you what they do…they release the virus…it has a 2 week incubation period to make sure it gets a solid foothold AND it has an incredibly HIGH mortality rate. The Healthcare system is quickly overwhelmed and unable to find answers. The entire point being that you or anyone else won`t be out rioting, burning down the town and killing folks if you and your loved ones are in bed dying!
                  THEY simply go into hiding for a year or two as the population dies off. They then re-emerge, re set the system and control it ALL. There are now NO MORE conflicts/wars for natural resources… every problem is solved.

            • You can stay out of the market, that is your choice, but don’t say anything about retard.

          • I have to agree on the foreign companies doing investments in. I have no investments in stocks/bonds. Im 43 in good shape about 20 grand saved with about 145oz of silver coins and 1 ounce krugerrand. It’s sad that we are ending up taking a look at companies overseas to invest and I thought the same thing about solid prodcuts. A new company is very risky even low money but if you hit big and it expands quickly you get lucky.

            As for the government pumping billions into a company its luck who finds out or you got buddies in the inside that tell you the US is investing into it and you can hit big that way but you got to know somebody.

            Everyone knows that people get rich by doing things that nobody knows about. For example people used to and still do(flip homes) and try and make money doing it. Then DYI has a show and everyone tries this and does well or has a hard time at it and screws the house up and a professional comes in to fix it.

            We are in trouble with our country. We all know the “takers” are in full steam and draining us quickly. People might argue and say, “we are in good shape we have money that the US has and are just not reporting on, we can trust them they just do this so people panic and buy things when we get scared and panic is thrown into the public.”

            Sorry but if we were in good shape we would not be borrowing money from China while there country has brand new buildings/sky”scrapers”/bullet trains and huge underground shelters and buildings. We are heading down in a fast way and I will not invest into the system that not sure how it exactly works. There is that saying don’t do something that you don’t understand like investing.

            Another tip my mother told me is when you wan’t to buy something and want bad. Think about it for 5 days and after 5 days you still want it, then buy it, but don’t buy something when your impulsive or not sure. I see people buying ammo sometimes that they don’t even have the gun for it. I don’t think it’s silly but not a good investment always. Especially for ammo that is not common to shoot. Ammo always gets more expensive and seldom gets cheaper.

            I can’t think of many things that get cheaper except for Tv’s or certain electronics. Ammo is a good investment ladies but get common ammo that is used, or if you need to trade or sell its in demand like .223/5.56 ammo for the Ar-15.

            I can’t believe people are still liking Obama and believe in him. Obama is the biggest self -centered liar we have ever had. You will never see Obama on a mugshot for what he did selling guns to criminals and letting them go to Mexico and they ended up killing people. All Obama does is parties on our money with his fake smiles while we fight with each other! We should be united GOP and DEMS and race and color together! But we got all of us fighting with each other, If I get a thumbs down on this, it’s only that someone has thier head so far up Obama’s ass they would do anything for that POS. Obama increases taxes on us and drive us out of jobs. I don’t understand why you would want that. You would want higher prices on food and everything just to see this fraud have fun in office while he screws you and me? Don’t get it blacks. Good post MAC!!

            • Ammo is NOT a commodity you should ever consider trading. If you do, you could well see it used against you! Only get the ammo for the firearms you have.

              • no ammo , no guns: 25 jan 2013 have you ever looked
                at the shelf of typical store on the street.
                Obviously, no ammo on shelf. you may have gold,silver, or
                diamonds. All i need is one simple round of lead, and brass.
                Today, the price of ammo jumps 25% up, but nothing to buy.
                Why do people buy all the ammo?
                Prediction is it like 1775, no red coated solder will take
                your ammo, the BIG 0 commands no ammo for you. no more ammo.
                DEFEND YOUR SELF IF you can.

            • We have most of our assets tied up in farm ground, but for what is tied up in a 401K that we control is leveraged for a collapse. We bailed out of our Roth’s. Took the cash and paid off some debt, purchased a few things like new tires for the car. I would look to hard assets that have a trade value or upgrade things in your house. Do we need a new furnace, air, windows, or a roof? Put it where you will use it for the next 20 years and see a payback. The little liar will be coming for your stuff.

            • Was watching a program on Joseph Stalin. He was the biggest murderer in history. He lied through his teeth and the people adored him (also feared). He was in power for 30 years and the people’s lives never got better.

              My point: Most people can’t think for themselves and thus fall for a good bull-sh_tter. Remember, there are many of them and few of us.

              Our constitution was written by studios people. They understood that power breeds corruption and the little guy always get’s the short end. The US constitution declares it’s citizens the “RIGHT” to bear arms. That right along with all the others are not up for discussion.

          • Try Panama or Ecguador bonds for a safe return and a nice yield in dollar denominations. Hold them in a foreign corporation through Bank of Durango Kidd.

            It keeps a portion of your assets offshore and out of reach of Uncle Sam tax free). Might want to put some extra cash in RmB offshore while you’re at it.

            Just saying. 🙂

            • @ DK, I apologize that this is off topic here, but you keep dodging this every time you spout off about the tribe.

              You have trouble understanding this, so I will offer it again.

              The Mosaic Covenant was CONDITIONAL. (for starters, read Deuteronomy chapter 28 and Leviticus chapter 26)

              God said that the Israelites VOIDED the Mosaic Covenant, so He would make a NEW Covenant with the Gentiles and that THE GENTILES would become His NEW Chosen People. (for starters, see Jeremias 31-31-32)

              Talmudic Judaism does NOT follow Mosaic Law. In fact the “Oral Torah” of the Talmud ridicules Moses as a dunce in Rabbi Akiva’s class. (for starters, read Menochot 22b in the Talmud). Only a tiny Karaite sect of Judaism (about 20,000 worldwide, mostly Ethiopians, and the Holy Hypocrites call them “N word”) follows Mosaic Law and the AshkeNazi and Sephardic “Jews” force the Karaites to CONVERT to Talmudic Judaism before immigrating to “Israel,” otherwise the Karaites are treated as goyim, non-Jews, non-humans.

              Apocalypse 3:9 (Revelations 3:9 to you Protestants) could not be more clear about the identity of the genocidal pretenders occupying the Holy Land: “…the synagogue of Satan, those who SAY they are Jews, and are NOT, but do LIE.” GOD’s Word.

              As for hate—think clearly now—who really is the hater? The one that teaches and practices genocide? Or the one who notices the genocide?

              Prosecute the guilty. Leave the innocent alone.

              • JQP: I am not dodging anything. You have a FIXATION against Jews. Live with it! Its not my problem it yours! Get over it! 🙂

                The Jews, even if they are Kharzars, are back in Jerusalem with nuclear weapons. Get use to it. They ain’t going anywhere. 🙂

                God promise Abraham the land of Canaan would be occupied by his descendants. You can piss and moan about it all you want. The reality is obvious:

                There are Jews in Jerusalem!!!! I believe God, not you !!!!!

                • Sorry to be blunt, DK, but you miss the point entirely.

                  According to GOD—not me—the Israelites VOIDED the contract (Jeremias 31:31-32), hence “lost title” to the land. The impostors, “the synagogue of Satan who say they are jews and are not but do lie,” never held “title.”

                  The Heavenly “title” to the Holy Land belongs to those to whom GOD passed the “title,” the spiritual descendants of Abraham, His Church, and His People.

                  The true Jews are in the Church Jesus founded. The impostors of Satan’s synagogue, the ones who SAY they are Jews, the ones who are NOT Jews according to GOD, the ones who LIE, occupy Palestine.

                  Fixate on that 🙂

                  • Romans 11: 1-2 1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
                    Romans 11: 17-18 17And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

                  • Jeremias 31:31-32 Behold the days shall come, saith the Lord, and I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Juda: Not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers, in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt: the covenant which they made void, and I had dominion over them, saith the Lord.

                    Matthew 3:10 axe laid to the root

                    Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9 cast into the fire

                    Mark 16:16 condemned

                    Matthew 3:10 cut down

                    Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7 in vain do they worship me

                    Matthew 23:33 judgment of Hell

                    Matthew 21:44 shall be broken

                    Matthew 21:44 shall be ground into powder

                    Matthew 21:43 the kingdom of God shall be taken from you

                    Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52 woe

                    Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16 wrath

                    Matthew 23:13 you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven

                    Hebrews 7:18 There is indeed a setting aside of the former commandment, because of the weakness and unprofitableness thereof

                    Hebrews 10:9 Then said I: Behold, I come to do thy will, O God: he taketh away the first, that he may establish that which followeth.

                    Hebrews 10:9: “Then he says, ‘Behold, I come to do your will.’ He takes away the first [covenant] to establish the second [covenant]…”;

                    2 Corinthians 3:14-15: “For, until this present day, the selfsame veil, in the reading of the old testament, remaineth not taken away (because in Christ it is made void). But even until this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.”;

                    Hebrews 8:7: “For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another”;

                    Colossians 2:14: “Having canceled the written code, with its decrees, that was against us and stood opposed to us; He took it away nailing it to the cross”

                    1 Thessalonians 2:14: “For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jews, Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men;”

                    Acts 7:51-53 You stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do you also. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? And they have slain them who foretold of the coming of the Just One; of whom you have been now the betrayers and murderers: Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

                    etc., etc. etc.

                  • if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen [the Jews] and save some of them” Romans 11:14

                    He restates a few verses later:

                    if they [the Jews] do not continue in their unbelief, they will be grafted in” Romans 11:23

                    It is only by repenting their disbelief in Jesus, by repenting their disbelief in the New Covenant, by repenting their disbelief in the New Israel (the Church of Matthew 16:18), that they will be grafted back into the root. JESUS is the root, GOD is the root, NOT the Pharisees, NOT Satan or his synagogue.

                  • Everyone, Just an FYI, the majority of what John Q posted above has absolutely 0 to do with what he’s trying to assert.

                    Go google some of the verses. John Q is the wrost kind of liar.

                  • DK claimed that the current occupiers of Palestine are entitled to that real estate because they follow Mosaic Law.

                    In aggregate, the Scriptural quotes and even the words of the rabbis themselves show he is wrong on every point.

                    The Mosaic Covenant was conditional on Israelite obedience to God.
                    The Israelites repeatedly disobeyed God and they killed their Messiah.
                    They voided the Covenant. They claim their Talmud supersedes Moses.
                    God named his Church in the New Covenant as the legitimate successors to Abraham and Moses.

                    Ergo, the synagogue of Satan, most of them European Khazars, has no legitimate title to that land and they most certainly do not follow Moses.


                    The Scriptural quotes I have provided have everything to do with that.

                  • JQP: Say what you will. Believe what you want. I don’t care. The Jews are in Jerusalem with nuclear weapons.

                    They are not going anywhere. Let God sort them out and find a useful outlet for your ebnergy and your rants. Based upon the thumbs down, no one is buying it here.

                    Just saying. 🙂

                  • According to GOD—not me—the Israelites VOIDED the contract (Jeremias 31:31-32), hence “lost title” to the land. The impostors, “the synagogue of Satan who say they are jews and are not but do lie,” never held “title.”

                    The Heavenly “title” to the Holy Land belongs to those to whom GOD passed the “title,” the spiritual descendants of Abraham, His Church, and His People.

                    The true Jews are in the Church Jesus founded. The impostors of Satan’s synagogue, the ones who SAY they are Jews, the ones who are NOT Jews according to GOD, the ones who LIE, occupy Palestine.

                    Fixate on that 🙂

                  • You sure are a hate filled bag of whatever. Get your meds increased or changed since they ain’t working.

                  • @John Q, Public as regard your reply to my reply on 1/22/13 in this article. Your arguments are pre Romans 11: making them speak of a different time. The Romans quotes are clearly written after your quotes and therefore imply supersedenceto your erroneous interpretation. The Scriptures I quoted and those below negate all that you have said regarding the land God gave Israel. Their judgement will come on judgment day just as will everyone else’s. I do agree though, that God’s chosen people are no longer just the Jewish people. They are the bride of the Christ. The church composed of peoples from all walks of life some from every Christian church and land. The regathering of Israel to their land is an archtype and example of God’s intent with the church on the day of harvest.

                    Israel’s sin and resulting exile from the Land of Israel never annulled God’s covenant with His Chosen People, nor did it permanently abrogate their right to the Land of Israel: “Yet in spite of this (Israel’s disobedience), when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them, nor will I so abhor them as to destroy them, breaking My covenant with them; for I am the Lord their God. But I will remember for them the covenant with their ancestors” – which includes the Land of Israel (Leviticus 26:44-45). Their exile from Israel was meant to be temporary! In Deuteronomy 30:1-5, Moses specifically predicted that they would experience a time of obedience and blessing within the Land, followed by a period of disobedience and exile from the Land, followed by spiritual restoration to God and physical restoration to the Land: “So it shall be when all of these things have come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you call them to mind in all nations where the Lord your God has banished you, and you return to the Lord your God and obey Him with all your heart and soul according to all that I command you today, you and your sons, then the Lord your God will restore you from captivity, and have compassion on you, and will gather you again from all the people where the Lord your God has scattered you. If your outcasts are at the ends of the Earth, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there He will bring you back. And the Lord your God will bring you into the Land which your fathers possessed, and you shall possess it.”

                    It’s no coincidence that after two thousand years of exile, the Chosen People are being restored to the Land that their fathers possessed, and simultaneously, they are being spiritually restored to God through the Messiah, as is evidenced by the growth of the Messianic Jewish movement in Israel and around the world.

                    The Son of God Himself predicted that because the majority of Israel did not believe He was the Messiah, Jerusalem would be destroyed, and the people would be exiled among the nations, but eventually, they would return to Israel (Luke 21:23-24). This prophecy began in 70 AD when Jerusalem was destroyed, and then again in 135 AD, when the Second Jewish Revolt against the Roman Empire was crushed. They were scattered to the nations, and lost political control of Jerusalem. However, over the past 2,000 years, there were always some Jewish people who remained in the Land of Israel. Starting in the 1880’s, this prophesied regathering of Jewish people to Israel picked up speed, and now there is a reborn nation of Israel, with Jerusalem as its capital, with 5.3 million Jewish people regathered from more than 70 countries, just as Israel’s Messiah predicted.

              • That’s true.
                Jerusalem will be undivided as Obama said.
                President Bush is the first president who recognized Palastine as a country. They are bashing him ever since.

                The next temple and the next empire will be built here after WWIII.

                • The third temple to be built will be the biggest one in the world.

                  Israelis said it’s to be 50 acres long, and will be mostly of GOLD.
                  Now we know why all ThaiLan people were working in Jerusalem since back in the mid 90’s.

                  All the chess pieces have been put into place.
                  Today Russia’s foreign ministry decided to remove Russians from Syria.

                  When Russia’s Foreign ministry is making statements about Syria, people get a feeling that something is not right.

                  As many experts have said, it’s a big mistake to abandon Syria, because it makes Russia more vulnerable.

                  Article – Kremlin to start evacuation of Russians from Syria:

                  The Russian government says it is sending two planes to Lebanon to evacuate Russians from Syria, the first such effort since the uprising against Syrian President Bashar Assad began in March 2011.

                  Monday’s announcement appears to reflect Moscow’s increasing doubts about Assad’s ability to cling to power and growing concerns about the safety of its citizens.
                  Russia’s Foreign Ministry has said that it has contingency plans in place to evacuate thousands of Russians from Syria.


                  • Something dioesn’t make sense to me here. Since when did Russia giibe a crap about it’s citizens?

                  • BJ: Putin is a nationalist. He cares about Russia and Russians. Russians pay a 13% flat tax as an income tax.

                    I think that qualifies Russia as caring about its citizens. WE should be so cared about as to have an Administration that lets US keep OUR money.

                    Its a New World, brother, and very bizarre.

                  • BJ, you know the damn answer as well as I do.
                    I don’t have time and don’t want to be bothered with your stupid questions or play your games.

                    Russia’s Foreign minister has lost many of the soviet block countries to FRANCE (IMF aka the fed/international bankers). The IMF has come in and set up the system and put a puppet government in place to make it appear as though they are a free country.

                    The fall of Syria is pretty much predictable as based on his decisions and his past statements to the press since March 2011?

                    A) If you ask your question to Bolshevik, Lenin or Stalin what kind of an answer would you expect?

                    B) If you ask your question to president Vladimir Putin, you know damn well as I do; Putin is a conservative and a TRUE Russian ….. for Russia. Although he does not know much of the difference between conservative and liberal politics.

                    I don’t like to engage in politics or making comments about politics, and I am always rushed, and therefore I sometimes make a typo error or do not explain myself clear enough.

                    🙂 But I just want to remind people of what they may have overlooked.

                  • No one had even thought of a one World Order back in 1913 or even 1945, more propaganda.

                    Not 10 countries, but actually 26 European countries + the UK (PM David Cameron refused to join the European Union under IMF World-bank’s control).

                    The ex-CIA chief, Pentagon chief Leon Panetta has removed US military ban on women in combat, opening thousands of front line positions. 🙁

                    According to the news, “Now that the Pentagon is lifting its ban on women in combat, does this mean that women could potentially be drafted, too? And as a practical matter: When women turn 18, will they now need to register, as men do, so that they can be conscripted in the event of a World War III,” –CSM.

                    They have been advertising about DE-MILITARIZATION AMERICA TO FIT THE ONE W:( RLD ORDER.

                    You can’t have several strong standing armies from different countries under a one world order.


                    Perhaps WWIII is the answer???
                    FYI: The ADL and the Fed were established in 1913.

              • Why do you always post this anti Jew shit? Go away.Everything is theJws. F-in loser.

              • All this can be readily verified—at least by honest people who can read:

                The Mosaic Covenant was CONDITIONAL. (for starters, read Deuteronomy chapter 28 and Leviticus chapter 26)

                God—not me—said that the Israelites VOIDED the Mosaic Covenant, so He would make a NEW Covenant with the Gentiles and that THE GENTILES would become His NEW Chosen People. (for starters, see Jeremias 31:31-32)

                Talmudic Judaism does NOT follow Mosaic Law. In fact the “Oral Torah” of the Talmud ridicules Moses as a dunce in Rabbi Akiva’s class. (for starters, read Menochot 22b in the Talmud). Only a tiny Karaite sect of Judaism (about 20,000 worldwide, mostly Ethiopians, and the Holy Hypocrites call them “N word”) follows Mosaic Law and the AshkeNazi and Sephardic “Jews” force the Karaites to CONVERT to Talmudic Judaism before immigrating to “Israel,” otherwise the Karaites are treated as goyim, non-Jews, non-humans.

                Even as far back as the 11th century the Karaites were persecuted by the rabbis for “heresy” because the Karaites did follow Mosaic Law and did not obey the POST-CHRISTIAN Talmud:

                “From the 11th century the persecution of Karaites (a heretical Jewish sect) by flogging them to death if unrepentant was common in Castile. Jewish women who cohabited with Gentiles had their noses cut off by rabbis who explained that ‘in this way she will lose her beauty and her non-Jewish lover will come to hate her’. Jews who had the effrontery to attack a rabbinical judge had their hands cut off. Adulterers were imprisoned, after being made to run the gauntlet through the Jewish quarter. In religious disputes, those thought to be heretics had their tongues cut out …”
                Shades of “Sharia,” eh? Check out page 62 in Prof. Israel Shahak’s book, Jewish History, Jewish REligion: The Weight of 3,000 Years

                Apocalypse 3:9 (Revelations 3:9 to you Protestants) could not be more clear about the identity of the genocidal pretenders occupying the Holy Land: “…the synagogue of Satan, those who SAY they are Jews, and are NOT, but do LIE.” GOD’s Word.

                As for hate—think clearly now—who really is the hater? The one that teaches and practices genocide? Or the one who notices the genocide?

                Prosecute the guilty. Leave the innocent alone.

                • @ John Q

                  Stout heart brother!

                  …but remember(paraphrasing)….”many will be killed/murdered defending his name/truths!!!”

                  If/should you need such….

                  Ping the matriarch of these boards, for my contact data…she has my permission to forward such to you!

                  …she can be trusted!

                  • You really have to laugh at the pouty baby who gave you a thumbs down for that.

                • “All this can be readily verified—at least by honest people who can read:”

                  And yet you still posted all sorts of verses that have nada to do with your assertions. You’re an anti-semite plain and simple. I’m interested in how you know all them bible verses though. You read the bible? You do know Jesus is one of them damn Jews you hate doncha?

                  • [yawn]

                    There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. —Galatians 3:28

                    Read carefully now: …_IN_ Christ Jesus.

                    Your ritual epithet is laughable. How European Khazars became “semitic” and claiming “title” to the Holy Land is just another lying swindle.

                    I have been quite specific in my criticism. I have criticized:
                    (1) evil belief (Master Race teachings);
                    (2) evil behavior (looting, genocide, crimes against humanity, including economic crimes against humanity); and
                    (3) careless thinking (foolish Zionist exegesis).

                    I have called for prosecution of the guilty and begged to leave the innocent alone.

                    So, what’s your agenda? Do you support genocide? Do you support economic crimes against humanity? Do you evangelize Master Race creeds? Do you advocate prosecuting the innocent and letting the guilty go free? Are you an advocate for falsified history, careless illogical thinking, weak minds, “Russian” mafia, talmudic brainwashing, H✡llyw✡✡d porn, and robotic name-calling?

                    What exactly is your agenda?

            • Clearly the Zionists and their paid internet talkbackers want to bury this:

              The Mosaic Covenant was CONDITIONAL. (for starters, read Deuteronomy chapter 28 and Leviticus chapter 26)

              God said that the Israelites VOIDED the Mosaic Covenant, so He would make a NEW Covenant with the Gentiles and that THE GENTILES would become His NEW Chosen People. (for starters, see Jeremias 31-31-32)

              Talmudic Judaism does NOT follow Mosaic Law. In fact the “Oral Torah” of the Talmud ridicules Moses as a dunce in Rabbi Akiva’s class. (for starters, read Menochot 22b in the Talmud). Only a tiny Karaite sect of Judaism (about 20,000 worldwide, mostly Ethiopians, and the Holy Hypocrites call them “N word”) follows Mosaic Law and the AshkeNazi and Sephardic “Jews” force the Karaites to CONVERT to Talmudic Judaism before immigrating to “Israel,” otherwise the Karaites are treated as goyim, non-Jews, non-humans.

              Apocalypse 3:9 (Revelations 3:9 to you Protestants) could not be more clear about the identity of the genocidal pretenders occupying the Holy Land: “…the synagogue of Satan, those who SAY they are Jews, and are NOT, but do LIE.” GOD’s Word.

              As for hate—think clearly now—who really is the hater? The one that teaches and practices genocide? Or the one who notices the genocide?

              Prosecute the guilty. Leave the innocent alone.

          • Casey is a part of a group who owns wall street and the media. DOUG CASEY IS NOT SIMPLY AN INVESTMENT ANALYST, BUT MORE OF A MANIPULATOR & AN OPPORTUNIST.

            And they’ve manipulated investors in and out in certain investment sectors (gold, housing, internet) to make billions, people lost their retirements because of what Wall Street was doing. When they created a bubble, and then went in and buy low and sell high later.

            Reading Doug Casey’s opinions about politics, he absolutely is not one of us. His agenda are very liberal and more about benefiting a One World order.

            All countries are after resources. It would be stupid for him to advise people to go against tangible assets, he wants the West and Americans to buy them now before other countries take them, then their governments would confiscate them later.

            During the 1980s, they moved people into buying stocks, his people bought gold at the bottom price and now they sell them to the masses and will confiscate them later.

            They’ve created crises for their personal gain. Never waste a good crisis. Yeah, a GOOD CRISIS WHEN WE LOOSE, THEY GAIN.

            🙂 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

            People should not invest in stocks with China, because of a strong possibility of war in the near future.

          • America has never seen a complete utter collapse of the dollar . How can we sure our money is safe anywhere ? If you invest in gold , the government can take it, they did in the early 1930’s , under threat of imprisonment . If its in the bank in savings , checking or CD’s where of course you make nothing on it , and the dollar collapse, what makes anyone actually believe the FDIC will back it up ? Frankly , I feel my money is safer hidden in a mattress and I don’t trust the government . Ado you really believe they won’t confiscate pensions and IRA’s , there has been talk of it ?

            • This is my take on things. Convert your IRA or similar accounts into physical gold. I assume we will be able to take delivery even if we owe lots of tax. If we are prevented from withdrawing our life savings under US law then we go to war with that nation and expend a much larger quantity of lead, copper, and steel core. Revolution occurs and things truly change.

              If we have withdrawn our gold and the government wants to then confiscate it, they not only learn how we can fight conventionally, but also how students of history can wage asymmetric warfare. Asymmetric warfare is a real bitch. Take out the infrastructure first, then play dirty against an army using bio, laser, and similar means. The template is the French resistance in WWII. 5,000 rebels tied up 2 million German soldiers and changed the outcome.

              Hope for the best and prepare for the worst. And don’t forget to become as resilient as possible with extra food, water, meds, communication, home gardens, and other needed items. Flexibility is key. It helps me sleep well in a very uncertain time.

              • I agree that you’re best asset is going to be flexibility. We have invested in a lot of food, water collection and medical supplies. My family feels that this is the best investment at this time since you’re not
                earning any interest anyway and the stock market is to volitile. Got our food from It tastes very good and has a very long shlef life. My wife has been trying lot’s of their recipes lately and even our 5 year old likes the food.

          • Mac is clearly not a retard.

            Maybe he is a bit of a gambler.

            • just a tiny bit… ever since they outlawed online poker ( 10 cent / 25 cent no limit) I have resorted to ‘playing’ around with stocks every so often… it has actually worked out much better for me…

          • I have been hearing all these predictions about gold going to hit 2,000 or 3,000 or, some have even been saying 5,000 or higher – for how long now? At least 10 years.

            The late Bob Chapman was making these predictions and, it was always: ‘by the end of this year……or, by this time next year’…..blah,blah, blah.

            I am beginning to believe that these prognosticators are nothing more than hucksters and con-artists who are trying to stimulate people to buy gold at the current high prices, when most average income level investors really can’t afford it and would probably be better off buying silver, or maybe lead, which are more affordable.

            Every thing these days is one gigantic scam. Gee, I wonder if that situation is in any way related to the tiny group of blood sucking parasites who’ve managed to hijack our nation?

            • let’s remember that over the time period you cited gold has risen from around $400 to as high as $1700. This suggests a long term trend is in play… and we have yet to witness the real panic fallout from financial/economic collapse.

              I agree with you that silver is an excellent vehicle for lower income investors. It, like gold, rises in times of uncertainty… Historically, both go up together (and fall together)… thus, in my mind, investing in one is very similar to investing in the other.

              • Like I said the other day. I just learned that you can purchase gold (of course at a much higher rate above spot price) in tenths of ounces and also in grams. This was news to me and may be to others as well. It makes the larger purchases easier to swallow since they are bite size chunks

          • Mac,

            Thank you, as always, for these insightful and well put together articles. As 2013 has rolled around, the Mayan apocalypse averted, I find it hard to think about investing in anything that I cannot hold in my hands, or protect with my rifle.

            Perhaps I see the future in a more “Mad Max” setting rather than simply longer lines at the soup kitchen, but the thought of “investing” in a company over the horizon or even on the other side of the planet, seems futile when it comes down to collecting your returns. Unless it had it’s headquarters within driving distance where they could cut me a check (and I am not even going to go into how worthless a piece of paper will be), then how could I expect to collect? When the SHTF, could we not expect ALL electronic wealth to be erased in an instant? “What shares?” “What dividends?” “I am sorry sir, I don’t know what you are talking about” will be the conversation you get, if you were even able to get someone on the line from the firm. You don’t like it? What are you going to do? Fly to whatever location the firm is at and demand your money?

            Unless these companies are paying you in literal physical assets (you speak of industrial metals, precious metals, food, oil, clean water), that is, they are “paying you” in gold, dehydrated/freeze-dried food, copper rods, 55-gal containers of treated water, oil drums of sweet light crude, then I honestly do not see how investing in them is wise.

            I am not in any way trying to belittle your efforts and investing strategy for you or your parents, but putting money that could be used to purchase now, at today’s prices, actual in-your-hand assets, seems infinitely more logical that converting it into “digi-dollars” that disappear into the great nether world of investing, that exists only as long as the server storing the data is plugged in and working.


        • Speaking of markets…..I want to know when reality is going to catch up with this outrageous gun and ammo pricing? It has been evident to me for almost a week now that nothing significant is going to come of any outright gunban and congress is not going to pass anything of any real significance. The only thing to worry about is the EO’s from Nergal possessed bo, and that is going to revolve around healthcare, specifically mental health.

          When are $1,000.00 guns going to go back to $1,000.00 instead of $1,7000.00 to $2400.00 and AK’s back to the $500.00 range where the belong. And rounds of 5.56/.223 back to $.50 and mags back $15 a piece. The prices I see on and are not examples of capitalism and free market….they are nothing but signs of modern day crony capitalism and greed disguised behind “supply & demand” bullshit!

          • It wont go down until inventory catches up, and that probably be for awhile

            • Prices will not likely drop back to pre Obummer lows until after the 2014 mid term elections when the POTUS is repudiated at the polls, if then.

              I have to believe the market for weapons is pretty much saturated at this point. Can you say “gun bubble”?

              Like gold, guns will never see pre O’Bummer lows again, unless you find an individual desperate for cash.

              • Have you noticed how some manufacturers and dealers have remained righteous with fair prices and good treatment of their clamoring customers?

                And how some manufacturers and dealers are price gouging, taking money, and telling customers to quit bothering them for asking where their products are or when they will arrive?


                • Honestly I haven’t been paying particular attention to prices for guns and/or ammo except for the occasional blurb in a story on the internet.

                  I got MINE! 🙂

                  • Every time you add a child, you add another rifle and more ammo for them, don’t you?

                  • My friend, Jonny V, (RIP) believed that a person should have a gun for every personality. I agree.

                • Can you give examples? I have a gun, just need some ammo

                  • BJ,

                    Your wrong… You do not have a gun. You have a club. Without ammo a gun is just a high dollar “fancy” club.

                    Y’all behave now. 🙂

                    hillbilly SC

                  • let me rephrase, I would like to have MORE ammo. But good observation Hillbilly SC…LoL

            • The sites I listed and am referring to are private party sales for the most part……..the guns are already in circulation, as in “used”.

              • What is wrong with a person who saw this coming receive a profit for for looking ahead.

                GUN SHOW REPORT

                Big show this weekend.

                AR 2400 AKS 1200 plus SKS 700 Basic Mimi 14 1000

                Glocks 850 to 1500 Shotguns 400 to 500 to start.
                XD 1200 Even Taurus 45 600
                1200 Goldcups 4000 Quality Revolvers 800
                Keltec 12ga 3000 Min. Keltec 1200 if you can find one.
                10-22 400$
                5.56 1.50 223 1.00 7.62 39 .75
                Armor 1000 to start

                Glock Mags 75 400 for New York Compliance
                Pmags 75 easy

                Most mag dealer stop making any so they don’t get stuck with inventory. When that hits the street prices will double again.

                Sold the most 7 RD 1911 mags ever this weekend. Mostly with people who dont even own a 1911.

                And most had to go to FFLs for guns because all I heard is I need to use my credit card.

                • Facebook,

                  Did you happen to over hear any of the old timers talking?
                  Its kinda funny when you stop and think about all the people scrambling for guns and ammo right now. I know that most folks here just laugh because most of us paid 1/2 of what ammo and guns are going for right now. I just wish 30 cal and 223 bullets would drop a little for reloads. And if anybody sees smale rifle primers buy them, you might just be able to help a reloader out when times get tough.


                  • The days of 6 cent 7.62×39 and 7 cent .223 are gone.
                    Sixty nine dollar SKS and $200 AK.. $300 for a Norinco Legend. Could not give them away at gun shows.

          • They never will , why would they, when everyone ran out and went crazy. They will never go back down to what they were before. And there is nothing anyone can are will do.

          • Stop whining you damn communist. You need to learn the basics of supply and demand. The price shot up because it needed to shoot up.

            • today’s supply & demand is nothing but a disguise for pure and utter greed. Making a profit is one thing. Fear, panic and trying to take advantage of that in fellow Americans is disgusting. People selling guns for twice the amount is just that….greed. Not to mention this is on pro gun sites where people sell private party and half these idiots on these sites are demanding to see DL and permit to purchase….no wonder we are where we are, even half the gun owners are government sheeple.

              A communist is the last thing I am fool. Common sense and calm heads need to prevail and I get sick of seeing the modern day crony capitalist hijack true capitalism with greed behind the disguise of your “supply and demand” lie. Go to the used gun classifieds, the supply is way over the demand….but the greed is through the roof.

              • The supply is nowheres near equal to the demand. You dont even know what youre talking about.

                • have you been to the websites I listed? Supply is in fine shape indeed in the private party gun sale arena, at least in the midwest it is

            • Who rubbed your asshole with a turpentine corn cob?

              • Your mom. She’s into some freaky stuff for an old lady. 🙂

              • boy did you set yourself up for that one…must be new here Joey.

          • State’s Attorneys’ General should get involved! This is bold faced price gouging during an emergency!

            I would go into immediate cardiac arrest. While they’re at it, issue a warrant and arrest that peice-of-shit David Gregory for breaking DC’s archaic gun laws.

        • Shorting the market is ‘fighting the FED’. It would be a bad move since the FED props it back up. Short term gains maybe.

          • It is being kept up to make Obama look good and to mask many of the other economic problems. There is little volume and most of the buys are with taxpayer money. However the trend is your friend.

        • Good investments:
          Necessary skills like nursing/farming/carpenter/etc. Quality hand tools will always have a trade market or use. Hard liquor for trade or medicinal use. Nails, screws, nuts & bolts, things that require energy to make. Knife sharpeners. Straight razors. Scissors. Sewing stuff. Fishing stuff. Books on ‘how to’ like animal husbandry, gardening, sewing, etc.

          Then, maybe some silver coins and small gold coins. If an ounce of gold goes to $10k+, you won’t want to trade it for a chicken or a dozen eggs, but maybe a pound of nails would buy a chicken? Think about it.

      2. “The wage of a people has meaning only when it arises from production. Every increase
        in production should benefit the whole people and raise the people’s standards of
        living.” -Adolf Hitler

        “The State is not a plantation where the interests of foreign capital are supreme. Capital
        is not the master of the State, but its servant. Therefore the State must not be brought
        into dependence on international loan capital. And if anyone believes that cannot be
        avoided, then do not let him be surprised that no one is ready to give his life for this
        State. Further, that greatest injustice (international loan capital) must be corrected
        which today still weighs heavily upon our people and upon almost all peoples. If in a
        State only he who does honest work is a citizen, then everyone has the right to demand
        that in his old age he shall be kept free from care and want. That would mean the
        realisation of the greatest social achievement.” – Munich. 20th April 1923. Hitler’s
        Speeches, Baynes. Royal Institute of International Affairs, 1942

        In a speech which was to have been directed at America by wireless but which for
        technical reasons could not be transmitted, but the text of which was subsequently
        published, Hitler stated that “The National Socialist Party recognised private property,
        private contracts, and private debts, but it refused to recognise public debts, the tributes
        imposed upon Germany in order to keep it in a state of perpetual bankruptcy.” – Le
        Temps, 13th December 1931

        In a statement to the United Press, July, 1931 Hitler stated that “The National
        Socialists did not believe it possible for Germany to fulfil the purely economic
        obligations which had been forced upon her.” – Frankfurter Zeitung, 15th, July 1931

        “Life is not a problem of financial speculations, but always only a problem of work.
        The folk community does not exist on the fictitious value of money, but on the results of
        productive labour, which is what gives money its value. This production, and not a
        bank or gold reserve, is the first cover for a currency.” – Adolf Hitler

        “Capitalism and Bolshevism are the two sides of the same international Jewish coin.” –
        Adolf Hitler

        “At the head of our National Socialist leadership there stands as watchword not ‘theory’,
        not ‘money’, not ‘capital’ but ‘production’. Believe me, my fellow countrymen, it costs
        far more hard thinking, more effort and more concentration to devise and carry into
        execution a Four Year Plan whereby the necessities of life will be secured to our people
        than it would be to set the rotary machines in motion to print more paper money. It is a
        very simple matter to come before the people and to say, ‘We are raising salaries,receipts, and wages’; then tomorrow we raise prices. It is very simple to say ‘ We lessen
        the hours of work, that is the amount of work done, and we raise the wages for that
        work’. That is perhaps popular for the moment. But the crash must come, for the
        individual does not live on a paper salary, but on the whole sum of the production of his
        fellow-countrymen. That is the first principle of all in National Socialist economic
        policy.” – Proclamation, Nuremberg Parteitag, Sept. 1937

        • Thank you for the highly interesting post. I wish to learn more on the subject. Why did Keynesianism work in Germany and not in the US?

          • When exactly did that happen?

            • When Hitler rebuilt Germany from the ashes after WW1.

        • Whats the point?….youve quoted hitler seven times to what end?…that he was correct or wrong? Personally I judge him by the same standard I use for everyone… not on what he “said” but on what he “did”…and what he did wasnt good.

          • Hitler successfully rebuilt the economy of Germany, and that needs to be analyzed. There is no room in academics for people who are too afraid to ask questions because of some idiotic social taboos.

            • …until HItler stopped cooperating with the banksters!

            • Thats an incredibly simpleton way of looking at it.

              Hitler stole power by intimidating and murdering people. Built a massive war machine (this is what you point to) invaded countries then murdered and enslaved and looted those countries to continue his scheme. Saying Hitler was a success is like saying the Spanish Flu pandemic was successful.

              I think it’s safe to chalk this up to your hatred of Jews.


                Hitler successfully rebuilt the economy of Germany, and that needs to be analyzed. There is no room in academics for people who are too afraid to ask questions because of some idiotic social taboos.


                • Ok, lets follow whats being said.

                  After Hitler SEIZES power he builds a MASSIVE military machine over a few years that improves the economy. He then uses said machine to loot and murder German undesirables and invade and loot other countries where the end result is the COMPLETE destruction of his country including the economy. And you’re calling that rebuilding the economy?

                  Good to go. As long as we understand each other.

                • “There is no room in academics for people who are too afraid to ask questions because of some idiotic social taboos.”

                  Of course, Hilter was Time Magazine’s man of the year too so he was a GREAT and WONDERFUL leader too, right?

                  You can see anything you want if you make the timeframe small enough

            • …fair enough,just an honest question…wasnt sure what you were saying…

            • with the help of Prescott fucking Bush.

        • It’s kind of eerie, that it sounds a lot like Hitler was taking on the Centralized jewish banking cartel and their fiat money enterprise. I’m not defending who we now know was a vicious murderer, but isn’t that same fight OUR fight now?

          I do not trust revisionist history.

          I know most of it is lies and propaganda, but I believe that if America was to take a stance to End The Fed, that history might see us written into it with the same revisionist brush as Hitler.

          Look at how we as preppers, are demonized for our views of the central banks. We are marginalized, because we have no faith in the Fed and prefer to hold our wealth ourselves in PMs, not fiat paper money.

          WE believe that the value of currency is in the labor producing our wealth, not the value the central banks give it, as in usury, fractional banking practices and derivatives, etc…i.e fake money.

          Basically what I’m saying is that it sounds like while we are nothing like the Nazis, we certainly seem to have the same views of who our enemy really is.

          I should mention again, that the current “demons” in the middle east are also against the usury that the central banks controls and profits from. It is a deep part of their faith.

          Trying to be totally neutral and open-minded here, it seems to me that all the “demons”, “terrorists” and “evil peoples” are really guilty of one thing initially…

          …usurping the centralized, global banking cartel (that controls all media, resources and the most powerful positions on the globe) and threatening their control of our wealth, and by extension, their profits from robbing us ALL blind.

          I think we can either continue to see the world divided from the “us versus them” mentality, or we can cast off our blinders and see the true demons for who they are.


          • Well said sixpack!
            Also worth noting is that the markets are owned and manipulated by these very same bankers.

            Paper will come and go but the metals have survived for thousands of years.

            Pay off debt, get liquid and independent.

            That’s the only course of action that I can see as viable.


        • bobthetop: Exallant info post. Its also the True reason the jew banksters and “allied” powers also controled by same bankster bunch of swindlers vermin were so desperate to convinve usa to join in WWII.

          The others were not able to win without usa help. Took entire free world first nations to beat germany.

          Them banksters and their bribed cronnies like FDR-Churchill etc Feard germanys money ideas may “leek” out to the rest of the world. If it did every nation would see the reason germanys and national socialists plans would work so swell.

          That would spell an abrupt End to All usury-intrest bankster swindles like we have today with the Fed Res.

          Then what would jews do for a living?…Parasitic peoples cannot sustain themselves on each other. And not only did jewsih folks hate manual labor due to their inate “master race” ideas and beliefs. Most of their real experience revolved around usury fee banks they owned or swindler plans to enslave Goyim gentiles to do their work as their rabbi’s promiced them it will be.

          Oh and also wars non stop to confiscate Other nations goods etc. The true reason for labor camps was to Teach jews How to do manual farm labor or factory work etc.

          Because after the jews went to live in isreal, they would need work/labor experience to survive and Not depend on other nations “welafare support” like they still do Today.

          If america and francs and germany and who knows what others simply halted every cent of cash handed over to isreal, and same time frame jew fed res banksters were stopped?….Within several months most of isreali jews would Starve.

          General George Patton realized by wars end “We Fought the Wrong Enemy”!….He was correct. If america instead Joined germany in WWII, and Together both fought against Evil Russian Soviet jewsih Kommies, todays troubles as well as troubles ever since wwii would never have occured.

          They assainated patton too for that once he began to Blab about it.

          Picture entire worlds nations use of german, money from labor/production methods your post outlined…They had zero intrest on loans for mortgages etc. Banks exist to Bennifit the PEOPLES!…Not a small evil handfull of jewsih banksters and several thousand bribed pals in high offices.

          If that was done instead of usa assisting destruction of germans in WWII?…The Entire worlds people would do swell and Prosperity would abound worldwide.

          The ONLY main Loosers would of course be that parasitic bankster class and of course the entire self chozen group that follow or Obey them.

          World=1…..Self chozens+ Banksters=0….Too bad george Patton wasn’t Prez instead of FDR back then eh.

          The Only thing they can do now is try for WWIII…Except that Today in 2013 era, most of world is Fast awakining to their swindles and the Truths of WWII era..

          A Good liklyhood now is if they attempt a war again, regardless the final outcome…For them and All who side with them…This time will probobly be a Final solution.

          PS: Adolph Hitler sure was smart for an 8th grade dropout no?…He makes Hobammy and Pelosi look like True fools or idiots.

          He also stated in his last will I think it was, the world will realize these truths one day and although germany lost(the entire world got scammed into defeating them), germans and germany will be vindicated once the world awaken to what really was.

      3. I’m suprised people are still buying stocks, none of it is safe anymore

        • If Soros taught us all anything recently, it was to get out of stocks.

          • Soros taught us that these guys who made money simply through paper shuffling and luck are the biggest liars. No doubt after bad mouthing gold all the way to the bank, Soros has been quietly loading it up by the truck full. No useful productive work done in his life. Just financial bet on the devaluation of the British pound, and he’s a multibillionaire.

            That this system exists such that it is so vulnerable to big plays like this, which along with creation of Fiat through the Central Banks and the banking system in general, allows this enormous redistribution of wealth a la Soros, is a clear cut sign that the system has to be overhauled, big time.

            Eventually it will be overhauled at the end of a gun.

        • Thank you MT. I trust nothing. My husband is putting in his retirement papers in February. He’s been at his job more than half his life, and is only 55. He’s getting out for two reasons…he’s sick of his job and we don’t have faith that, if he stays, there would be anything to receive.(things have been going down hill for this company years before 2008).

          We never took the time to understand stocks, too busy making ends meet and raising 3 kids. He Lost a lot and quit the 401. Now we are getting house ready for market so we can get the hell out of suburbia!

          • He will be working at wal-mart in 6 months…..

          • I am the only person I know who doesn’t buy into the 401(k) scam. One co-worker told me he made 15% gain last year. Never mind the 40% haircut in 2008-09, or the inflation and management fees eating those gains.They tell me I’ll have nothing when I get old(er). At least I got something for my FRNs when I had them.

            I think the NYSE recently hit a five year high. Whoooo-hoooo! We’re almost back to where we were five or six years ago!!!

            Stunned silence when I ask about actually people actually laying their hands on that money. These people actually think the banksters will leave literally trillions in cash unmolested for the next few decades. Stunning how many people quit work and head into retirement while still paying a mortgage.

      4. Diversification should start with plenty of long term stored food, a good water source, the ability to grow/produce/store more food, and the means to defend it against those that were not so forward looking.

        Then diversify into other commonly used items, such as toilet paper, fuels, etc.

        IF you happen to be fortunate enough to have extra funds AFTER the above, by all means buy silver and gold…..anything to keep from saving in paper promises such as dollars and stocks

        • TnAndy

          I am widely diversified…

          My portfolio includes investments in hard assets such as Hornady,Magtech,Glock,Sturm Ruger,Keltec,HiPoint,DPMS,CCI Blazer,Remington..
          for both close and down range challenges ahead.
          Commodities include grains,legumes,rice,poultry,pork, beef,H20,paper,pharmaceuticals,..

          Should I diversify further,silver seems a logical investment at the very next juncture.



          • Jim, Am I diversified?

            1. Food Stamps and EBT Cards
            2. Medicaid
            3. Unemployment Check
            4. Housing Assistance
            5. Multiple SS#’s and ID’s
            5. Democrat Party Registration Card

            • And a case of Slitzh Malt ;0)

              • Wow, Schlitz…one of my old man’s favorites. That was some dog piss beer.

                • mix it half-n-half with Annie Greensprings cherries jubilee.

            • Yep,you’re one diversified negra

        • TA is correct. Good producing land that you can keep, water, disverse energy, not to close good neighbors that have your back, the means to protect it, and a stash of troys. Throw in a “We call the sheriff” sign with 50 large bore outbound holes, staked in the driveway.

          • Honestly what good is land when you have a group of commies pushing Agenda 21 for the past 30 years and stepping it up at breath taking speed !? They will FORCE you off your land .
            I guess if it gets that bad , we will be Ina civil war and it won’t matter. if I were wealthy enough , I’d build me an underground bunker and store it with years worth of food, water and guns. As it is in my case a few months worth is my limit, but it’s better than nothing. I thinks God everyday , I bought a gun about six months ago before they started getting more expensive. Would love to get an AR but my husband told me to go bug off.

            • Julie,

              The gun will be money well spent just make sure and get lots of ammo for it when you can find it. Since I have been off for the past 3 weeks I have been doing alot of research. What I have found is not good for some but really good for like minded people such as us on this site.I don’t know whats going to happen or when for that matter but I can tell you its building veryyyy fast. The people have had enough and it won’t take much to set them off.

              Keep prepping,


            • If you can’t afford an, AR-15, look at an SKS, AK-47, MAK-90, or Ruger Mini 14 or Mini 30. All great guns at less than half the price of the AR.

            • …and you think that if they force people off their land, your “underground” bunker will still be yours? Why? Because under the land is exempt from taxes? LOL!

          • Serious farming is not easy. Especially if supplies become scarce.

            • Only commercial farms need continuous supplies. An individual family farming for themselves does not. All one needs is knowledge, practice, heirloom seeds, and a supply of good tools to start with. After that no further input is needed other than sunlight, water, and your labor.

              If you set up your garden properly, parts of it can even be self-seeding, so the only labor is harvesting. My strawberries were planted two years ago, and I haven’t touched them since. I planted rutabagas last year. I let some go to seed, and now I have more rutabagas. I planted crowder peas last year. I let some go to seed and had more peas this year. Rosemary and thyme grows all year and spreads. Lemon balm and other mint-related plants will grow and spread. Basil will self-seed.

              I have been gardening for years and have done a lot of experimenting to see what works in my area. I am naturally lazy, so I try to eliminate as much labor as possible. Most of my labor so far has been building numerous square foot gardening boxes and mixing the initial dirt to fill them. There has been almost no work since other than planting and harvesting.

              My next big project is to cover part of my back yard in newspaper to kill grass and then cover it with compost. I am going to try the “Back to Eden” style of gardening. I was impressed by this method as demonstrated in a movie: I would suggest that everyone view this film.

      5. For those of you like me, NOT RICH. I learned last week that you can buy gold in smaller quantities than OZ.’s You can buy in 1/10 OZ.’s and even grams. I bought 2 grams for $70 a piece last week from APMEX along with some junk silver.

        Just thought I’d pass that on incase there were other’s that always thought gold was out of their reach like I did

        • BJ, the smaller denoms is the way to buy silver and gold. It will be easier to use for purchases if the FRNs tank.

        • You bought that gold at the rate of $2100 an ounce!! Just buy silver if you want small quantities of metal!

      6. The problem with the stock market these days is that there is no reasonable predictability any more. 30 years ago, you could invest and expect reasonable return on your investment, the periodic “bear ” markets, not withstanding.

        That has all changed now. No more buy and hold. Yes, you’ll kick yourself mentally for not getting in or staying in the market, if it continues to climb based on fiat injections into the market by the FED through its proxies. As long as everyone in the markets agrees to go along with this pretend world, then the market goes higher.

        On the other hand, if the market sudden crashes when the first big player blinks, then you’ll kick yourself for having not gotten out when all the warning signs were blaring.

        It boils down to the simple fact that we have entered into the unknown, where every thing is a crap shoot, determined by everything else except the core fact that the Central Banks worldwide are all printing money like mad.

        • Your last line should be re-read by everyone.

          It is because of what you say in your last line that the ‘markets’ could explode in price. The DJIA at 30 or 100K ?

          Of course all you have to do is look at MF Global and the fact that John Corzine is still walking free and you should see you will never get any of your FRN’s out of such paper investments. There is NO reason for the ELITE to let you win.

          The game is almost over and there is no political outcome but hyper-inflation and the resulting wars.

      7. In 1956 the head of the Soviet Union, Nikita Khrushchev, said, “We will bury you!”. Little did we know then that what he ment to say was, We will BARRY you!”.

        All hail King Barry, the first gay/black/muslim/communist,King!

        • I remember ol’ nikita on TV when I was a nipper. Never thought it would come to pass.

          • Wasn’t he the one with the really big eye brows?

            • No,he was the one with the big bald head. Gorby had the eyebrows

            • Yes and he banged his shoe to get atten to speak out at a UN meeting too.

              When he was asked as he left the UN by msm reporters how did he figure they’d bury the usa?

              His answer was something like “America will Fall from Within…First begining with it’s teaching youths, then spreading outwards to All of society”

              I rekon nakita Knew the jew kommie bankster zios plans in advance eh.

              I wonder if nakita also had advance knowledge of how so many of todays evangelicals would Fall for the falsehood taught of “Bless the jews or God wont bless america”?

              How many of them evangels are aware that the Very word “jew” is NOT even mentioned anywheres in entire Old testement…UNTILL 2nd book of Kings, ch 16 vs.12 ?

              Thats about a Third way or more Thru the old testement!

              Kinda strange aint it?…That zero mention of word “jews” is in Earlier bible verses?

              I hope soon many more folks will stop listening to phony IRS ruled pastors of today, and RE read slowely their bibles to find out these important truths some of us try to awaken them to eh.

              There IS a vast difference from reading it over and reading Thru it Deeply minded. And without others interpretations.

        • We buried ourselves. Many are quite happy about it.

          • “An autopsy of history would reveal that all great nations commit suicide”. Not sure who said it, but they hit the nail on the head.

          • the happy ones will be the most disappointed if the coup happens.

            Their going to be sorry regardless. Painfully sorry.

      8. I ask this question in another post and got no answer, but I was to far down the list, so I’ll ask again. Does any one know or have a comment on buying foreign currency.It’s true we can only buy so many guns and ammo and stock up on so much food. And everyone talks about buying gold and silver. But we need to diversive as much as possible. So I would like some input on currency exchange. Friends have talked about Canada, but they are as Socialist as the Europeans, so I don’t trust to go there. I was thinking more of the Swiss Franc, since their currency seems to stay stable, and they don’t get involved in every war that comes along. But don’t know if a person should take possesion of the actual currency or just hold it in an account. Not interested in the Chinese Waun, because if we go down, their economy goes down too. Just looking for some input. Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!

        • It is likely that the finances of the entire world will all implode at close to the same time, all of the central banks will fail, so all of that money is high risk. Sure seems like precious metals is the safest way to go. And always always always. . . if it is not in your posession IT IS NOT YOURS. Take physical possession, don’t keep anything in accounts or banks – anything paper (or digital) is not real.

          • Wish I could give more thumbs up for that truth

            • If dollar bills are so bad now?…Why is it being reported again and again that ALL top co’s such as Microsoft-ebay-etc etc etc have been sitting on Massive huge piles of it?

              APPLE corp recently passed up the $100 BILLION in U.S Cash dollar holdings. At least Ten more top companies like apple are doing the exact same.

              They are Not stupid right. If usa cash is to implode any day now?…Why are They ALL doing this?

              Can it be Deflation? or prices on most everything tangible will drop badly so they await it to buy cheep whats left of america and land etc?…Kinda same way them banksters did in FDR times aka 1930 era?

              I do not think we are being told the entire story by various “Buy Gold” type folks eh?

              Will any folks Here sell silver or gold now if you believe it will rocket in price soon?…NO you sure wont.

              Why do They all keep hawking it?..Dont They desire massive gold profits?…Or are they simply liking us alot and look out for Our good fortunes?…Not Likly!

              They aint telling us the “whole” truth I rekon.

              I bet every person who posts here if You was head ceo of APPLE or Microsoft…Would You sit on $100 BILLION Cash usa dollars Today like They are doing?…Hmmmmm.

              • …old timers here might remember Mushroom…he always said to save crisp new 10$bills in #10 cans,remember? wonder what happened to him..I wish him well but maybe he had a point? I have some cash stashed simply because its still accepted as payment by most people and if there were a dis-inflationary trend?…well there might be something too this line of thinking…might be wise to cover all bases eh? just my 6 cents worth.

                • Reb,

                  I was told Mushroom past away last yr, He is missed.


                  • Aww man…sorry to hear that…he added a “flavor”to the conversation that was unique and made you think…yessir he is missed 🙁

              • AM: Apple did pass a very large portion of its cash through to stock holders as a one time disbursement prior to year end to beat the Cliff.

                But you are right and I have made the argument here many times about corporate cash. It is their legal tender. It is how they operate and it is the both the blood and oxygen that flows through their corporate veins.

                The GB work for them. No crash.

        • You can order Francs through a Bank. There is a slight charge for conversion. Saw a story last week that there is such a high demand the Swiss are having to print more to cover requests.

          If you live near the border with Canada, might be a good idea to have some “bug out money” in their currency too.

        • How the hell ya gonna spend Swiss paper HERE when things get bad? GET silver and gold

        • don’t…buy tangible assets. Pms, ammo, guns, seeds, food, shelter, land, get it…

          All paper money will be worthless. Pms will be the basis for any money in the future…a future worth living for.

        • Swiss Franc and Canadian Dollar should be good.

      9. Oops!!

        there’s one thing we can be sure off:meant of??

      10. I cant wait till all that is written in Revelation chp 18 happens to the vatican & her NWO financial debt system read all about it Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

        2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

        3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

        4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

        5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

        6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

        7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

        8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

        9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

        10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

        11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

        12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

        13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

        14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

        15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

        16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

        17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

        18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

        19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

        20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

        21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

        22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

        23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

        24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

        • The Vatican?…Dont you mean NY with the fed bankster folks and the UN there as well?…Sorry..yes vatican plays alot of this stuf of various evils…But worlds merchants and ship owners made filthy rich due to…Vaticans consumerisims?!!….Just how many cars-groceries etc etc do you think the 110 acre vatican city buys yearly?

          Compare EACH item you listed or verses listed to say, NY and the United Nations buildg also in NY…Aint UN where kings or earth Meet to do evils?(yes).

          And acording to ancient old testement verses meanings sometimes the word “Fornication” does Not mean ‘sex” rather it means “False God” worship…aka Worship of “Mammon” which means MONEY.

          Who worships mammon/money as much as they self worship, their self chozens selfs? whos the worlds greatest Swindler group?…Whos the Banksters class?(all, jews)

          Where do Most of wealthiest from above line Live?(NY close as can to Their banks and Mammon!)

          Perhaps it is the Second beast aka False Prophet will be related to the Vatican eh?

          If you rely on Scofiled bible translations at all? to research Who/What scofield really was and that Rothchilds is who Published his bible back around 1903 era. Its main reason for so many False teacher/preachers today and ever since then.

          • AM: WE have had this debate about Babylon The Mother of Harlots many times here. It is the city that sits on seven hills. That city is Rome.

            No blood of the prophets can be found in NYC.

            • …no, but you can find “bloody profits”….just kidding,couldnt resist! 🙂

      11. Never invest money you cant afford to lose.

        If you still feel The need to invest do so in PHYSICAL HARD CURRENCY.

        Paper and digital instruments are subject to the whims of Faceless Men who are committed to belief that you should die in poverty, your childeren starve and made slaves.

        Do not participate in your demise.

        Hard assets in your physical possesion are your only protection

        • So very true, however I can still trade paper for gold, food, gas, ammo, guns and even sex! So Gov. paper still has value to most folks.

          What I’m saying is we might get to where physical pm’s are all that has value, but we are not there yet.

          • If there wasnt paper to trade for sex all the marriages in the country would fall apart.

          • Paper could become inflated away VERY quickly

      12. Birmingham developer offers plan to buy Belle Isle for $1 billion, secede from Michigan

        Smart move??

        • Smart move? Perhaps if he too is black…Even then to be worth so much, and be surrounded by 800,000 africans who aint?….Not a good risk eh.

          Better plan perhaps! Move the 800,000 african savages to belle isle and buy all detroit!…Then stock detroit with a Private armed army!

          I just love it when a Plan comes together…Ret. Col.Hanibble Smith…The A-TEAM…

        • never happen

      13. You should know about lack of logic, sinc very litle logic is seen here.

        • I think Mac, in the comment above (Comment ID: 1053612), sounded quite rational.

        • That’s because “Joe’s-NC” screed contains NO LOGIC!!!

          Thus ‘JoeinNC feelings’ are now, totally hormonal based….

          …you need to quit snorting crushed “birth-control pills” Joe…’cuz even your posts have a high pitched, feminine whine to them, of late!

          Egads…what a liberal fag your are!!!!

          • A logical conclusion requires actual facts unadulterated by the growing disinformation/misdirection that has become so prevalent…all over the internet now. What once qualified as “easy read and agree” has become suspect in the “alternative news” cloud.

            I was once a devout student of logic and the application of that process. The process of logic is still valid…the information available to arrive at “a logical conclusion” is the “joker” we must now deal with.

            “My gut” has replaced logical analysis. “My gut” is still “in tune” with the TRUTH and still based in logic.

            When presented with a constantly changing and suspect set of “facts”…GO-WITH-YOUR-GUT! “IT” is less susceptible to “false logic, lack of logic, and so-called LOGIC based on erroneous INPUT. But that is just me.

            • @ Yental

              Thank you for a return to reality/normalcy…grounded in that all too rare commodity…..COMMON SENSE!!!!

              …hope you realize that one day (maybe soon)…you’re gonna be drafted into a ‘command-slot’ position!

              …I will gladly serve under you, sir!


              • Should that day come, it will be within the confines of the “green book” and as such, I will remain anonymous and equal in endeavor and action to every other patriot committed to “the cause”.

                Side-by-side, none above and none below in the ranks of JUSTICE AND PATRIOTISM!

                I listened by radio, for as long as I could stand it, to the coronation of Obama for a second term. I am not simply “upset” by what little I heard…I am nauseated and MORE determined than before to FIGHT AGAINST this insidious usurpation of OUR REPUBLIC!

                Each time I hear OUR REPUBLIC referenced as a “democracy”…I am convinced that the time is NOW! War against “we the people” has already been declared. To hear this puppet swear an oath to a “CONSTITUTION” he has already butchered…and fully intends to dismantle…stokes a fire deep in my soul. A fire that will only be quenched by the removal of ALL involved in this agenda/production/LIE!

                • Amen , my sentiments EXACTLY ! Today was enough to make you ill ! What a lot of pompous over the biggest fraud ever to occupy the people’s White House ! It’s VERY frustrating, almost enough to drive you to drinking or perhaps even smoking ! Hang in there and know there are millions upon millions of Americans who share these same feelings and they are all watching …and waiting !

                  • The harvet time is when ALL tares(weeds) will be seperated from all the wheats(us folks) and then them weeds be thrown into the Fire.

                    While the wheats be stored in the warehouse of the Lord.

                    Only part I aint figured out yet is when He says “I will call forth My angels to Uproot the tares”, is it ONLY angels?…OR as so often in biblical eras, will the Lord also employ People too? (please say Yes!! heh heh)

          • Inky Dinky-doooo!

      14. You can buy all the paper silver that you want to …… it’s getting your hands on the actual physical, in your hands silver that’s becoming increasingly difficult. Prices are going up as we speak. Sales of Silver Eagles from the mint have been suspended until the end of the month; no inventory. The big dealers and wholesalers bought up everything that was available and on hand.

        Take a gander at Centerfire Systems web site. 20 round magazines for the AK are going for $39.95, 40 rounders for $49.95. They will also sell you a semi auto 12 gage with one 5 round mag, that may or may not have cracked and unfinished furniture, to “expedite delivery”, for a mere $1,400.00. WTF?????

        Just in case you haven’t already figured it out for yourselves. I got to tell you boys & girls; there’s this really bad looking moon rising out there on the horizon of our lives. The little birds have quit singing in the trees and the little animals have quit scampering around on the ground. It’s like we are in that sudden ‘calm’ right before a massive storm hits.

        There are so damn many things messed up in this poor world of ours that serious, life threatening issues could come at us from from any of many different directions; take your pick. All is NOT well in ‘Whoville’!!!!

        God Bless and good luck to all. I am taking a last look for any deficiencies that I can quickly correct here this weekend. Please remember to put something aside for the family pets.

        • The mint does NOT sell Eagles directly to the public,except for overpriced proofs!
          The DEALERS have bought all the supply and have PLENTY for sale.

      15. Well, you could do worse than Doug Casey as an investment advisor. Perhaps Uranium miners or a crude producer in the Dark Continent might be worthwhile investments, but putting money in stocks in this environment is akin to trying to pick up pennies in front of a steamroller. I suppose Casey would sell you a lot in “Casey’s Gulch” that would be a nice bug out location if all else fails.

        • Yeah,Casey’s place in Argentina!! Imagine when the locals go after the gringos? They KNOW there’s money and goods there

      16. I did everything by the book for years and years. I was a blue collar scum working a back breaking job. I saved and saved, lived poor and amassed a fortune in the stock market. In 2008 i lost 600,000 bucks in a month. I almost dropped dead.

        • Oh my gosh , HORRIBLE ! I do believe I would have dropped dead . That is truly sad , truly , to work hard to save , to buy only to lose it to a manufactured crisis ! Gosh that’s a lot of money, sorry.

          • Hopefully he didn’t yank the rest out. A lot of people made a lot of money after the crash. Took nerves of steel though.

        • Sorry for your loss King Krazy. Another bad story- A good customer of mine just sold her waterfront home after losing her husband from a heart attack about a year ago. She told me the other day that she lost $810,000 on what she and her husband had paid for it seven years ago.

        • Sorry you were so dumb. I saw trouble coming in 2005. Are you now paying attention?

        • I’m guessing that you are looking for payback…

          Be patient with the rest of us, they are going to make the final mistake.

      17. FEAR is your Friend .

        Listen to the lil’ irritating voice of Fear and you will Survive .

        FEAR always precedes IMMEDIATE INDIVIDUAL ACTION .

        Listen for it , Recognize it . Embrace it as a Old Friend it will keep you alive … Save Your Life !

        ~N.O. ;0p

        • “We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.”
          ― Plato

      18. Off subject, but can you believe. Breaking News On CNN. “PRINCE HARRY killed Taliban while serving on a Helicopter” SO WHAT! Seems CNN has a fondness for Royalty. I think they would like for us to Curtsy to the Queen or maybe Bow to a King, who ever that might be. Have you got any thoughts on this subject? I’m sure it wouldn’t be to KING JESUS. Just a thought. Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!

        • If I were king, I would prosecute the mainstream media under the Sherman anti-trust Act.

        • Oh no!!! Piers works at CNN. what if….. what….if….
          Harry used ….a….. ohhhh..nnnoo..a.. GUN! Royalty, no less, soiling himself with a GUN. I hope. I pray, Harry swooped low with his chopper helicopter airplane and lobbed off the ENEMY’s head with the rotating blades that sits atop the aircraft. Clean cut. One pass. Very humane. No guns. Well, little guns with less than 7 bullets, maybe.

        • His royals family claims they trace their lines back to Both lines of ancient Judah tribe . One line to King David, and the other line to the Non kingly side or something to that effect.

          Not sure if they can or just claim it?…I saw what looked like an very old map wrote on Sheeps hide skin same as old text was done. It had writings and picutres of stuff or “symbols”(?) and that is what was claimed to be an original family tree listing from ancient times down to present times for brit royals ancestories.

          I think they believe They alone should rule entire world due to that stuff. Based upon old testement prohecies and promices that always forever a decendant of isreals king david will have a son sit atop davids throne.

          Problem is they seem to Missed the Other verses that say “A son of David line will sit on davids throne UNTILL Shilo comes…Shilo(Jesus Christ) did come, 2000 yrs ago!

          But it seems they like others prefere to think they can reject the new covenant and still abide or rule by old testement stuff. Kinda like them esau khazer crowd thinks.

          Youd think after US patriots kicked brits asses Twice in 1775 and Again in 1812 by now they’d stop fantasys such as this eh?….Lust for Power I rekon.

      19. Long-term food storage, water, ammunition, first aid supplies, candles, matches, knives, blankets, barter items, and a whole host of other things.

        Those are my priorities for the time being. I’m into
        “simplify” as well as diversify.

      20. There are many things that you can do to protect you wealth besides having money or stocks. Besides the items mentioned above ie. food, land, gold, etc. think about items you may collect. I’m into stamps and have found that the older more scarce one have retained their value over many years. How about quality gardening tools—can always be used..Mountain treck mentioned that he did not like investents in Canada because of our system of government ( same as europe ). I beg to differ. I many ways we are freer here that the U.S. (my daughter lives there) so I have a feel of what is going on. By the way almost an Canadian bank has on hand US dollars,euros, etc. and if they don’t have what you want can get in a day or two.

        • Right.
          Canada, Australia, both rich in natural resources have strong currencies. Though it’s hard to put much faith in any paper, the Canadians wish to keep prices competitive to the U.S. Dollar for trade. That’s why they track as they do on the Forex. A banker told me this.
          These currencies will be around for a while and both nations’ banks are some of the most sound in the world. It’s a good idea to diversify into these two currencies as it may very well save your butt.
          If you have trouble establishing an account, just hold the notes outside the banking system and pay the small transaction fees.

      21. just get a way to be put in prison ,
        like the one percent already in ,safe ,feed and clothed by uncle sam
        and all your problems are over

      22. Saw the headline and thought it was about the population bubble. Biggest one in history.

      23. I also believe what KySSG says. Commodities in hand and even real estate is the only way to go. If the dollar goes so does the valuation of PM’s.

        The only reason the stock market has not tanked at this point is because of the Plunge Protection Team that is being financed by the Major Financials and the U.S. Government. This organization has the money and the power to prevent another 500 point loss on the stock exchange. Not only that but depending on the political situation it will prop up stocks till they can issue you a financial statement explaining why such a stock should not be sold.

        Doesn’t anyone wonder where the 40 billion a day that the Fed prints up goes? It goes towards The Plunge Protection Team and to HUD sponsored organizations such as Fannie Mae – Freddie Mac etc. Why? Because they are the PMI (primary mortgage insurers) that have to pay off the banks and investment companies that have bad real estate loans that were made because the U.S. Gov’t through HUD guaranteed them.

        This is what was called the affordable home act. Thank you Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosoi. Every person deserves to be a home owner. Turns out everone didn’t.

        Now when the Fed gives them (PPT and HUD) money (magic cash) to pay off these loans the Fed owns those loans or at least has an interest in them. So when Treasuries are sold that is what backs those T-Bills and Bonds. That is why other countries buy them because at the very least they will get USA land and homes when our money is no good.

        Remember the Fed does not have a reserve and it is not part of the Federal Government. It is run by the major financial institutions both here at home and abroad.

        It is a pyramid scheme of the greatest proportions ever portrayed on any one country in history. Get ready because it is going to rain poop on all of us, even the prepared will have it bad. The unprepared, bye bye…

        • BigB,

          Its just a theory of mine but what would the government need to hide the fact that they are propping up the market with the fake money being printed everyday? Once again we have to not look at the hand they are showing us, instead we must watch the other hand. I’m no market man or money man for that matter but right now everyone has their head turned watching our gun rights.

          Keep prepping it should be a interesting spring,


          • That is the crazy part about all of this. They are not hiding any of this. The Federal Reserve which is not part of the American Government are the people (Bankers) that decide how much money is printed.

            Under QE3 they have stated openly that 40 billion dollars will be printed up every month to be put into the monetary system for as long as it takes to get the economy moving again.

            Congress, The Senate nor the President has any say in this. That is why Ron Paul who has demanded time and again that there be an audit of the Federal Reserves gold in Fort Knox and elsewhere was shot down as a serious contender for President.

            None of the executive branches have any say over how much or where the money goes when it is printed. “It goes into the system”. What the heck does that mean? What I said in my original post about it is being used to prop up our dollar.

            This will lead to inflation. What you saw in the fall of Russia is what you are seeing here in the USA. Only because of the Federal Reserve and the American dollar being the worlds currency it is taking longer. The only reason why we still retain the worlds currency is that Saudi Arabia will only accept American dollars for the purchase of oil.

            The Crown Prince is 80 plus years old. If, when, he dies there are over 9,000 Crown Princes’s in line for his position. If the one who wrestles the title from all the other is an Islamic Fundlementalist he will probaly open up the sale of oil to a non fiat currency.

            I believe and this is my theory, that after WW2 our President made an agreement with Saudia Arabia that we would limit how much oil we would drill for here in the US and or how much we would refine to keep oil and gas inflated. If it is not true then why have we not become independent? We have the oil fields. How long has it been that a new refinery was built here in the US? 50 plus years, Why?

            That is why you see China buying all the gold it can and places like Germany demanding the USA give them all the gold we are “holding” for them.

            You cannot make this crap up. Everyone needs to check it out for themselves. Read Jekyle Island and see how the Federal Reserve came about.

            • BigB: Our government is saturated with Dual Citizens that want to keep Americans focused upon the middle east and Israel.

              Second Big Business has pursued the development of all commodities off shore to preserve OUR own for as long as possible.

              China is the number one gold producer. It buys all of its own production and also buys on the world market when the price is right. It also encourages its citizens to buy gold because China understands that gold is real wealth.

              They need an additional 9000 tonnes of gold to reach their goal of 10,000 tonnes. Gold is a minute portion of its currency reserves.

              Invest in gold. Speculate with silver, and hoard your lead. They won’t be making any more of it after the Changes.

      24. It seems like everything is being replaced with fear right now. Never in my lifetime have more people been afraid of so many different issues. Talk about the end times.

        I have been sick, taking a battery of vitamins and herbs to lessen the time of this very vicous flu, and been unable to look much at the earthquake activity, but what I see there has been ONLY one earthquake, towards Fiji, in the past day and 1/2 or so. Nothing again in the southern hempishere. There was a 6 in western Indonesia like one of these precursor polar earthquake was pointing towards, but not a BIG earthquake, ONLY a good size one where it should be hitting, just about one or two magnitudes too small. Watch the USGS, something is coming, the planet just has to recoil like a rattlesnake from the last 7.5 Alaskan quake a couple of weeks ago. All the plate boundary quakes definitely mean something as past records show.

        • @BI: On Illinois radio stations a PSA message from Illinois Emergcey Management is talking about, prepare for earthquakes or other natural disasters, But they are using as an example the quake on the New Madrid Fault of 1812. Now why are they using that for an example? In the message they say 11 million people will be affected by a quake now on it, and property loss would be in the 10’s of billions of dollars.
          USGS activity in Southern Illinois seems to be increasing as of the last quake in Illinois, the one over around St. Louis area.

          • kinda ot… I65 N passed four trailers ADPH (alabama dept publichealth} emergency preparedness hauling north of birmingham. impending drill?

            BI the elderberry syrup up to spoonful an hour. Wont stop flu but will shorten it to aboit 3 days. Hope ypu feel better soon!

        • Dear BI (if I might be so informal) and being seriously off topic (apologies, skip on by to those unaffected).
          May I be so bold to ‘mother-hen’ you. It’s called Sambucus… one of few products that has concentrated black elderberry. Hurry off to find it.
          Other hen related…. raw (not pasteurized) local if possible honey, slices of organic (or cleaned – boiling water comes to mind to get rid of the nasty) lemon, slices of ginger, dashes of cinnamon in a clean jar in the fridge for a least 2 weeks… just sayin’. If you can stand cayenne – the better.
          Surely I don’t have to say, meditate – breath in, breath out, grasshopper, in a very hot bath (tub with eucalyptus oil not included). It has a purpose, and so do you.
          Be well, my friend

          • BI, speaking of “hen”, don’t forget the chicken noodle soup. Make it hot in a big bowl, lean your head over it and breath in the steam coming off of it while you eat it. Best wishes for a speedy recovery POp.

          • You can get Sambucus at Walgreens. It does work.

          • @ TrailGuide and everyone else. That black elderberry works, had it mixed with red raspberry, burned through 2 bottles of this on top of the powdered form of Sambucus which is the Latin name for black elderberry. The one item that seemed to take the flu down though yesterday was Vitamin A when I decided to double it from 50000 IU to 100000 IU. This really seemed to dry everything up and take away the chills. Cayenne is good for too many things to mention. I truly forgot about the collodial silver as this is wonderful for infection. On this 6th day of the flu it is almost gone, and really only the third through the fifth day was really awful. Elderberry is one of those survival items that every prepper needs.

            I see so many good people trying to help someone when they have the flu or some other need, and someone like that blockhead JoeinNC calling the people here hideous names and never contributing anything. Joe is too stupid to even understand that if he was in pain or suffering many people would still have mercy on his worthless butt and try to give him some advice to help. I guess when you look like a proboscis monkey you have to take it out on everyone.

        • Sorry to hear youre not feeling well…hope youre back in full form soon!

        • Whoo-Boy,

          Sorry to hear about your Flu Friend…’careful’ is the watchword with this years variant; far too many are being hit far harder than in previous seasons. REST first and when you ‘think you’ve got it whipped ‘ be VERY careful, some several persons of my acquaintance reported that once they began feeling better they got up and about thier affairs and that was when it redoubled back on them even worse than the first time through,…again, CAREFUL.

          • BI, JOG’s advice is wise and sound. I got the flu on the 25th of Dec. and was down for 2 weeks. Then got to feeling better and got up and about only to have a set back. Almost a month later I still have a lot of congestion and coughing.

            Fortunately, my set back was not worse than the first round but by then I was using Black Elderberry and colodial silver. Stuff really works.

        • BI,

          Get well soon, my friend.

        • Be Informed: I am going to be intentially vague (and you know why), BUT if you are seriously interested in learning over-the-counter options (and they are not what you think — not elderberry or that weird fizzy tablet that some teacher thought up or NyQuil, although I will say that one of them is what the Native Americans used during the Spanish Flu to stay alive) re: your current situation (yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what the FDA says and they can bite me), put a note on here and I will pass the information to you through Mac (if okay with him) so I know it is actually you who is getting the info and not some troll. These options are amazing and have worked for me and mine for in excess of 10 years and I have only had 2 episodes of your current situation in those 10 years and those were because I stupidly let my options lapse. If optioned correctly, you will not repeat your current situation.

          • Not to pick an argument with you, Insanity, but your very vague post might lend the impression to toss aside some ‘folk-lore’ on the beneficial properties of elderberry. A little research would beg to differ on how building a health immune system can be the difference between 7-10 days of misery vs. 3 not so miserable… plus the chances of re-bound are greatly diminished. I wouldn’t post a proposal to BI without knowing he would do his homework and thus suppose I might just be on to something. While I would never claim enhancing the immune system as a ‘cure’; the evidence of hundreds of years is hard for the FDA to squash. That with personal experience of family members fighting colds / flu and the expedience of recovery vs days of pain brought me to said conclusions. But I’m always open to proven options.

            peace and health to you ~..~ TG

            • Trail Guide is absolutely correct.

              Elderberry extract is not only proven through centuries of use – it is scientifically proven over 10 years of peer-reviewed studies. Elderberry can reduce the duration of the flu for an average of 4 days, and it can also decrease the severity of the symptoms.

              Elderberry has even been proven effective against the Avian flu, a terrifying mutation that causes death in 70-100% of those affected.

              Links to follow.

              • It grows wild in most states. Blossoms and fruit can be collected for a variety of home health uses.

            • No, I was merely pointing out that it is not elderberry and Tamiflu is based on star anise, if anybody cares – and what I would propose would result in nothing more than a day or so of feeling a bit more tired with a sniffle or two and never developing any other symptoms — but thank you, I will keep my mouth shut in the future and my remedy a closely-guarded family secret — peace.

        • My 2 cents on viral and bacterial sickness….I huff H2O2 in a nasal inhaler through the mouth. I have been doing this for over 2 years and have not gotten a cold or flu (No flu shot). Bacteria and virus’ cannot thrive in an oxygen rich environment. I don’t think there is any research to prove this works but personal testimony from people that use this daily and my own experience works for me.

        • Be informed,

          I hope you are on the mend, I agree with your analysis, something doesn’t feel right. I am very in tune with mother nature and spend most of my time out doors, something is coming, just a strange feeling I have. I hope I’m just wrong but can’t shake this feeling.

          • I live in the Rockies and the sun rises and sets have been very interesting for months…Temp patterns and wind have been different for several years.

            I’m outside more than most. i watch the animals, trees, water, etc. things are different.

            The earth changes without man’s impact…we are just here for a short time and should just deal with it.

            If mother wants us all gone, it won’t take to long.

      25. For many years I participated in 401K. It was just the thing to do – saving for retirement>Rah, or something like that. Sounded grand… visions of golden years, travel, mortgage paid off, etc (vomit) etc. A defining moment came when I found out that I was locked in unless I quit the job. That’s a period.
        After being serious PO’d because I didn’t bother with the fine print, I said I’ll gamble on paying off the lifestyle of not so rich & famous… better odds.. since it also was sold as a a one-way bridge to no-where on the TeeVee as ‘borrow until the cows don’t remember where home its’.
        What a terrible, freaking mess I had nested me & DH in… SAD is a terrible drinking buddy.
        I use to fret, fret, fret on my diminutive ‘savings’, move it here, move it there. Then I said things in colorful language most un-befitting a Southern Lady. I found comfort in solid, tangibles in my possession and stand as a cheer-leader; not above clapping loudly for those still braver than I.
        I scurry like a mouse these days, hoarding (yep, I said it) the little things like … well, you know 😉

        p.s. By-the-By… good article, Mac.
        Action on every level should be explored. Thanks for all you do. Is the belated Christmas gift still in the wings?????

        sincerely ~..~ TG

      26. “Logic Has Been Replaced by Fear, By Panic”

        The trend is your friend. When it comes to Wall Street, logic sucks. Wall Street is as much about manipulation as it is about anything. If you’re not an insider then you’re a follower and the quicker you can follow the trend the better off you will be. If you don’t have the stomach for it then pay someone to do it for you or stay out. I’ve been burned and learned.

      27. @Be Informed ~ Rest, drink lots of liquids and get better.
        Do not watch Piers Morgan or you will stress yourself out.
        I will be sending you some chicken noodle soup shortly.

      28. And here I was thinking this site upheld the 1st amendment…Yet I am being censored for pointing out a fact about a certain company that is included as advertisements purely for the financial benefit of the site creator. I wouldn’t be censored if the fact was debatable. Like I said, sell out. Greed drives people.

        • Move to Russia you damn communist. I hope the owner of this site gets fabulously rich. Those who work hard, live well.

          • 1) You don’t know what I am even talking about…

            2) Even from what I said, your reply makes zero sense considering I am talking about enacting the right to free speech (1st Amendment). People in Communists nations don’t exactly get that. There are more issues with your reply, but this is enough to prove my point.

            3) If you are labeling me a Russian simply because of a screen name…well that shows the full extent of your creative intelligence.

            • Greed is good.

      29. OFF TOPIC… just in case MSM fails to report this:

        That 15 year old kid in New Mexico… the one that whacked his entire family with an assault rifle… turns out the assault rifle was the Dad’s Ruger 10/22 he kept in the closet and the kid had been having suicidal and homicidal thoughts for quite some time. No telling what kind of drugs they had him on.

        Ruger 10/22 is now an assault rifle.

        • Slippery Slope,

          Where did you find that info? I need it to help get the word out here in TX. Fisrt it was a miltary rifle, 6:00 news reported it as a AR15 and now its down to the deadly 22cal? I hate to say it but the 22 cal is a killer and we should all give up our semi autos that our fathers gave us when we were 8 yrs old! (NOT). Speaking of which I sure had fun this weekend with my 22’s, but of course I only loaded 10 shells.


          • You only need one right, i mean all guns are for is hunting!

        • Why was the gun not locked up? Same crap as in Newton, failure to recognize/admit that some one has mental problems and take steps to prevent harm being done by that person. The rest of us get to pay the price.

      30. Hey and BTW who posted the link here about canning butter?


        • @DPS,
          I don’t recall who posted the recipe, but I did save it if you need it (and don’t get another reply).

          • Ohioreader,

            Thank you JayJay posted one for me that I will use tomorrow, I thought I saved the video but guess I lost it. LOL
            Thanks again,


        • 1. To fill a pint jar, you need just over 3/4 pound of butter. 11 pounds will fill 12.5 pint jars.

          2. Using a large stainless steel or good enamel pot, gradually melt the butter over low heat, stirring occassionally. As butter melts, add more butter until it’s all melted.

          3. While the butter is melting, put clean pint canning jars in a 250 degree oven for a good 20 minutes.

          4. Sterilize canning lids according to directions. I simmer them in a little pan of water, and keep them hot until I need them.

          5. Ladle the melted butter into the jars using a canning funnel if you have one. Leave 1/2 to 3/4 inch headspace.

          6. When all the jars are filled, wipe the rims well and place hot lids and bands. Screw down hand tight.

          7. Process 20 minutes in a boiling water bath. When done, remove with a jar lifter.

          8. Wait until the jars are cool enough to handle. Then shake each jar a little every few minutes as they cool. This really works great to keep the butter from separating. Once the butter begins to stay consitent, you can put it in the refrigerator, still checking every 5 minutes and shaking. Do this until they solidify and won’t shake anymore. Once the jars are cool and the butter is solidified, you can store on the shelf.

          {pretty much how I canned my butter, except the heating of the jars in the oven}

          • JayJay,

            Thanks I thought it was you but its been over a yr, I picked up a bunch of butter dirt cheap and now I need the freezer room.

            Thanks again,

          • JayJay…How long have you been canning butter? Have you been using the canned butter? I had gotten a good bit of unsalted butter cheap last year that I was going to can until I started reading all the warnings against canning dairy products. It’s still in my freezer. What do you think about these warnings? I notice you don’t even pressure can them. As butter is not acidic, what about botulism?

            • We’ve been canning it for about 2 years now. Full disclosure we turn the butter into ghee which is simply butter that you heat, cook the water out and strain the milk solids out. Plenty of videos on you tube for it.

              The current jar we’re on was canned about 14 months ago and is fine. We do tend to keep it in the fridge after opening it but it’s not purely necessary if you eat withing a reasonable time frame. Pints work better than quarts for this.

              Do note that ghee has less buttery flavor than butter because a lot of that is locked up in those milk solids. So we still melt some non canned butter to put on our popcorn and cornbread. The ghee is more for cooking with. And as a much needed source of potential calories in a disaster situation.

              Getting those out increases the shelf life before it goes rancid and our canning is designed around at least a 2 year storage plan so longer shelf life is better for us.

              We also have quite a bit of canned Red Feather butter as another just in case, we’re close enough for example to the new madrid area that we’d feel it and cans take a fall better than glass. And #10 cans of powdered butter from rainy day foods. We like butter. 🙂

      31. People who have actually lived through economic collapses have said that cash is king, and that they would have traded all the gold in the world for basic supplies. Have cash on hand for the day when the government closes all the banks and devalues the currency overnight.

        • Actually cash is not king in a financial collapse when the government proceeds to devalue it’s worth. Cash had little value in the Weimar Republic. You may trade gold for basic supplies under a collapse where the currency is devalued but few if any would want currency under those circumstances.

          Of course one needs basic supplies.

          • The Weimar Republic is an extreme case. The whole country is not going to run on trading gold. Stores will still take cash. The inflation will develop slowly.

        • In past scenarios, it is usually excepted until merchants finally realize that they are turning over real tangible items for something that may be absolutely worthless tomorrow.

          A crash today will render all electronic transaction null, cash will be accepted until the above is reality.

          For what it is worth, get what you can with it quick.

      32. It is sad that in very near future toilet paper could be worth more than ticker paper….


        • A Black Conservative Appreciation Day is an excellent idea! The black conservatives will naturally be attacked and we can point out the racism. Plus, as more blacks become aware of all the other black conservatives out there, maybe they will reject the immoral values they are being sold by the liberal white socialists.

      34. AMERIKA IS A LIE !


        • According to West Point’s latest announcement, it looks like we’ll have those leaders.

      35. 20 Only In America Ironies

        1) Only in America could politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a $35,000 a plate campaign fund raising event.

        2) Only in America could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when we have a black President, a black Attorney General, and roughly 18% of the federal workforce is black.

        3) Only in America could we have had the two people most responsible for our tax code, Timothy Geithner, the head of the Treasury Department and Charles Rangel who once ran the Ways and Means Committee, BOTH turn out to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes.

        4) Only in America will you find people who burn the American flag and call America an “imperialist nation,” but who get offended if you say they’re not patriotic.

        5) Only in America can we have terrorists kill people in the name of Allah and have the media primarily react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash.

        6) Only in America could someone drinking a $5 latte and texting to his friends on an iPhone 4 complain that the government allows some people to make too much money.

        7) Only in America would people take rappers who brag about shooting people and selling drugs seriously when they complain the police are targeting them unfairly.

        8) Only in America would we make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege while we discuss letting anyone who sneaks into the country illegally just become American citizens.

        9) Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country’s Constitution be thought of as “extremists.”

        10) Only in America could the most vicious foes of successful conservative women be self-proclaimed feminists and the National Organization for Women.

        11) Only in America could you need to present a driver’s license to cash a check or buy alcohol, but not to vote.

        12) Only in America can we have terrorists fly planes into our buildings and have some people’s first thought be “what did we do to make them hate us?”

        13) Only in America would we think teaching kids at college is an appropriate job for communists, terrorists, and other dregs of humanity.

        14) Only in America could people demand the government investigate whether the oil companies are gouging the public because the price of gas went up when for every penny of profit the oil companies make, the government tacks on roughly 24 cents’ worth of taxes.

        15) Only in America could the first people asked to weigh in on the seriousness of a racial incident by the media be professional race hustlers like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Ben Jealous. In other words, it’s like calling in a car dealer as a neutral source on whether or not you need to get a new car.

        16) Only in America does airport security put its hands on your underwear….while you’re wearing it.

        17) Only in America could the government force a skating rink to have handicapped parking spots and Braille on the ATM machines.

        18) Only in America could the government collect more tax dollars from the people than any nation ever has before in all of recorded history, still spend a trillion dollars more that it has per year, and complain that it doesn’t have nearly enough money.

        19) Only in America could the rich people who pay 86% of all income taxes be accused of not paying their “fair share” by people who don’t pay any income taxes at all.

        20) Only in America could the people who approve of slaughtering 25 million females babies via abortion accuse OTHER PEOPLE of waging a “war on women.”

      36. “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

        ~John Adams 1776

        “AmeriKa already has passed the “Point of No Return” morally politically financially spiritually January 2013 !”

        “The prudent American will plan for Hard Times now and ahead of them !” prepare prepare prepare .

        You are your only Salvation … next to your own Religious beliefs .

        This is Only just the beginning …

        ~N.O. ;0p

      37. “the world is controlled by a bunch of genocidal maniacs hell bent on extending the system for one more day,”

        “Buy a weapon to prepare for what may be the most devastating economic downturn our nation has ever faced. As one trained in economics, I never thought I’d write those words. However, I’ll repeat them. Buy a gun. The coming storm will not only impose financial hardships for those unprepared, but also entail a physical threat to you, your family and your property. The threat will come from inside the halls of government with the constant attack on savings and investments through inflation, monetary gimmickry and, eventually, the destruction of our currency. The world around us is deteriorating every day: socially and economically.

        Learn more:

      38. Good Morning.

        Everything is held together by bullshit these days.
        One persons opinion is another mans downfall and you must depend on yourself to get the job done. If you do not know what the BDI or LIBOR is, your way behind. Add derivatives and electronic trading, you will understand that most of us are peons in the stock market. We must find other avenues to PRESERVE our wealth.
        Two major influences are, being able to time events and diversification. Depending on what you have and when you use it, can be very advantages.
        Gold and silver should be acquire to levels you are comfortable with a possible percentage of 15-20% of total wealth.
        Cash on hand. While others are fighting to get money out of the bank, you can purchase items directly. (No ATM’s). Two months pay to start.
        One item would consider also is the “I Bonds” as I precieve there will be an inflation run.
        Coinage with metal value will outlast cash and is good for small transactions.
        The above items may have to be spent within a window of opportunity. I might add that the Stock market may reach a new all time high and will be oversold with Hype ( Over 14,500 ) Not investment advice. DYODD.

      39. You have better odds with Blackjack than the stock market if it’s one deck only and you follow the rules of play. The house has only a point five percent advantage. So when the deck is right, you should be able to get ahead.

        IMHO, the stock market is like a table where the rules keep changing and you have other people at the table who cheat.

        • Why lately does the msnbc tv market lists show every time Gold drops $30.00 per oz or thereabouts, the trades are halted at 1:30 pm instead of allowed to keep trading going?

          Sure seems like manipulated gold prices eh. So what if gold drops alot more?…Other stocks dont require halts of trading…Gold does every time and the same 1:30 pm time frame too…Hmmmmm.

      40. There is only one relevant truth here: NO ONE can predict the future. Diversify.

        • I do PMs and real estate.. with the 401k…now buying GE. A conglomerate.

          And don’t forget the spam!!! ha


        Here’s the socialist who wants to steal your 401k and IRA and give it to the unfunded auto and fed. pensions and to prop. up social security.


        When this goes down… we all need to scream treason. Stealing our private property.
        And don’t split hairs with me on this.


        “All is well”.
        Yeah right…
        The more Obama smiles at us and gives us his smooth talk…
        The more we should panic and prep up.

        It’s all going to collapse in time..this list is proof.
        Go google the planks of the communist manifesto.
        One of their agenda is centralized banking.

        Commies every one of congress.

      43. Without a regular discrete supply chain selling things you want or need priced in gold.
        Gold is pretty much a shiny object d art . Well things priced in what would be a reasonable manner under the circumstances. Expect some coronaries when people get told 1 gram a day for medication they need ).

      44. Greetings Everyone!
        “they will be throwing their gold and silver into the streets”-Book of Revelations.
        So far what’s been written has been spot on as relating to our times.Just what would be the cause of this “throwing into the street” might be many things happening at the same time.Breakdown of commonly accepted terms of exchange due to crooked and misleading traders(I.E. the slant-eye bastards making fake coins and bullion in massive amounts for example)If TEOTWAWKI were to happen,gold and silver would be next to worthless compared to foodstuffs and medical supplies.It’s nice to have “some” on hand,but there other things that have equal worth.
        On a lighter note,I believe there are companies worth investing in,even in these times.There were many companies that had their start in the last Great Depression(they like to mislead the Sheeple by calling it a ” Temporary Recession”.Don’t believe it for a second children.In realty land,we’re in for a decade or two’s worth of hard times.What we’re in for in the long haul is THE CHANGE.World-wide,governments are reaching “failure-mode” from covering the banks crooked dealings that failed.What’s going to replace all of it will be extremely painful everywhere on the planet.There are no “safe havens” to run to.Even the Chinese get it.
        Having said that,we still need to buy gas,food,get medical treatment,etc. on a day by day basis.Prepping is the “deadline” that will keep us going as thing change.
        just my thoughts,
        Best to All

      45. I have said this in other places on this site, but I have to reiterate it. You can get all the tax benefits, without the limitations of a traditional IRA or 401k with a little planning and forethought. I worked with the people at Longboat Retirement and got my hands on my own money, finally. Now I invest in silver and land. In my opinion, these are safer than paper investments. I can also diversify overseas rather than just the scam US stock market. Think about it, and open up new doors with self directed investing.

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