Fears of a third world war continue to ratchet higher. This time, the fear has spiked after president Donald Trump sent anti-tank missiles to Ukraine in a show of defiance against Russian president, Vladimir Putin.
The war games are all for show for now: that is until someone takes it just slightly too far…
President Trump’s administration supplied the weapons after shrugging off Putin’s warning whisking them off to Kiev could escalate a four-year smoldering war in the region. Ukraine’s defense minister General Stepan Poltorak was united with Trump and quipped he would waste no time in training his troops to use the highly sophisticated Javelin anti-tank weapons.
Poltorak showered praise on president Trump for a “positive decision which helps to significantly increase Ukraine’s defense capability and provide Ukrainian servicemen with modern weapons,” according to The Express UK.
Ukraine’s pro-western president Petro Poroshenko confirmed the arrival of the “long-awaited weaponry,” yet stopped short of saying just how many missiles were actually delivered. The ammo is part of a whopping $47 million Congregational military aid package that should consist of 210 Javelins and 37 launchers.
Russia is yet to respond on the gift but last year said Donald Trump has “crossed the line” by arming Ukraine and helping them repel attacks from Moscow.
US and Ukrainian officials have blasted Russia for reportedly shepherding in hundreds of tanks and rockets into the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine. Since the war there erupted, the US has provided more than $1billion of non-lethal military assistance to Ukraine in the form of night goggles, body armor, and Humvee vehicles. This was under the Obama administration, which refused to supply lethal equipment fearing retaliation from Russia. -Express UK
Before Trump stepped in, Poroshenko pleaded with western backers to send Kiev arms in the early days of the war, which has claimed the lives of more than 10,000 civilians making it Europe’s bloodiest conflict since the Balkan wars.
Well, we can thank Bolton and the deepest of the swamp for causing trench-foot-in-the-mouth to the POTUS. What we need is to send those in power playing these games to the front lines. I’m sick of ‘go on boys’ leaders. Whatever happened to the men who used to stand in battle and say, “Come on, follow me”?
Heartless:
The Nazies led their men in battle. Officers died on the front lines with their enlisted. President Eisenhower was responsible for German prisoners of War being reclassified as “Enemy Combatants” not protected. The last army officers to lead their men in battle, died in open fields.
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Victoria Nuland and Joe Biden are on the top of the list to go…
Cat
Another Country the US has no business interfearing in. Its all about the Zionistzzz dictating US Foreign policy. Dump Israehell and all these problems vanish instantly. Israehell shot down the civilian airliner MH 17 over the Ukraine to blame Russia. But the 3ews got caught. Israelli Pythone air to air missles were used. Russia does not use Israehelli python missiles.
Relax, WWIII has been going on for about 16 years.
“Oceania is at war with Eurasia. They have always been at war with Eurasia”
Anti-tank weapons are DEFENSIVE weapons so no one should be concerned except any one planning an invasion of Ukraine. Better to stop the Russians in Ukraine than Germany or France.
BTW, this is old news. 🙂
” … which has claimed the lives of more than 10,000 civilians making it Europe’s bloodiest conflict since the Balkan wars.”
That is what one can expect … when a U.S. backed coo overthrows an elected government and installs their own puppet.
Trump sending anti-tank weapons to Ukraine – fk’n dumb, but I’m not at all surprised by such a move by him or his war mongering administration.
FTW
The sane are disappointed too as Trump was supposed to be opposite of Hillary instead of Hillary in a suit and tie. The administration is set up for war. An about face occurred rather quickly, a Secretary Of Defense who goes by the name Mad Dog, a proposed military parade, bombing Syria. The self touted “Party Of Peace” the Democrats are as hawkish having supported to the point of cheering military action while Libertarians and Constitutionalists are scorned as being naive at best and unpatriotic at worst. While the pace is slower its direction is reminiscent of 1930s Germany.
Eisenhower warned us about MIC just before leaving office.
“The more things change, the more they stay the same”.
The U.S. efforts in Syria have been seen as relatively impotent. How long before Ukraine decides that the EU/Nato/US do not have their best interests and side with Russia? All this equipment will then be in the hands of those we consider the U.S. considers their adversary.
Sometimes it just seems like America keeps equipping people that will eventually hate the West
So at what point does Putin supply Iran And Cuba with nukes.
Putin took over Crimea and the oil producing half of Ukraine and Oblamer did nothing. Putin’s love affair with his heavy tanks is now theatened.
“Putin took over Crimea”
You are parroting the lies that the MSM said, and is simply not true.
The people in Crimea voted to return and side with Russia.
With a 90% plus voting in favor in doing so – Russia acknowledged their concerns and accepted them.
They might be remembering the Afghan war where we kept supplying weapons to the Afghan rebels. It bled the Soviet Union and helped in the collapse of the Soviets. The Ukraine would be Putin’s Afghanistan. If I were Putin, that is how I would interpret it.
Ukraine is NOT the nation that’s invaded and occupied someone else’s nation. Putin should just STFU and pull his army out of Ukraine and Crimea. Historically Ukrainians have suffered at the hands of Russians, even during the czarist era. Russians are POS.
It’s very brave to call the entire nation of people “POS”. But why they “POS” ? Maybe because for 2/3 of their history they fought foreign invaders and almost always WIN ? Or maybe because their culture is different and they do not accept politcorrectness, lies and “some” parades with neutral bathrooms ? Sounds like you’re not brave, but just brainwashed racist.
Minchanin, if the roles were reversed it would be different. But there’s some things about Russia you don’t know. After WW2, the old USSR occupied all of eastern Europe and part of Germany along with the Baltic states. I’ve personally known people from the Baltic States, Poland, and Czechoslovakia who suffered horribly under the Soviet occupation. That occupation didn’t end until after the USSR collapsed. All of those countries still have vivid memories of what they went through at the hands of Russians. Russians are NOT the victims they make themselves out to be. They’re treacherous and cold-blooded. Ask any of the old-timers in any part of Eastern Europe. Ask anyone in Afghanistan, Georgia, or even Ukraine. Sounds like you’ve been drinking too much Russian koolaid.
Brave is correct about the Ukrainians hating the Ruskies. They do have good reason. Farmers starved to death on their own farms while producing and exporting wheat around the world. Wheat Famine/Holmodore.
Soviet famine of 1932–33 – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932–33
The Soviet famine of 1932–33 was a major famine that killed millions of people in the major grain-producing areas of the Soviet Union, including Ukraine, Northern Caucasus, Volga Region and Kazakhstan, the South Urals, and West Siberia. The Holodomor in Ukraine and Kazakh famine of 1932–1933 have been …
Wiki is really a weak explanation of the Wheat Famine. An explanation with teeth…
“Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union, set in motion events designed to cause a famine in the Ukraine to destroy the people there seeking independence from his rule. As a result, an estimated 7,000,000 persons perished in this farming area, known as the breadbasket of Europe, with the people deprived of the food they had grown with their own hands”
ht tp://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm
During this time in the Soviet Union was led by no other than Stalin, and the Bolshevik, Marxist J3w organization.
Guess what? Today … Russia isn’t run by Bolshevik’s and they certainly do not operate as a Communist country as they once had been before.
No, I’m not drinking nothing. I was born and raised in the one of those countries and spent first 30 years of my life there. I didn’t notice anything what you just described . Is Russia protected their own interest and still do ? Yes. Is people suffering ? I don’t think so. I was there. Low crime, no drugs ( I had no idea about drugs until ” Iron Curtain” was there) and very good education. I don’t glorify them, but look what is going on now in the US.
The soviet union and most of the world the last few centuries have been occupied by bulshovic satanists
None other than the infamous globalist George Soros was backing the Ukrainian Coup by his own admission on CNN. That speaks volumes.
George Soros admits to funding the Ukraine crisis
June 2, 2014
h ttp://www.hangthebankers.com/george-soros-admits-to-funding-the-ukraine-crisis/
Dep BH is an uninformed dope. Russia has a 40 year lease in Crimea for their Naval base. They are defending their assets, just like in Ukraine with gas pipelines. Russia supplies 1/3 of all of Europe’s energy. Get the facts before you aimlessly comment with your uninformed propaganda BS.
TSB, [SIGH] here we go again. That lease for the naval base started only AFTER the USSR collapsed. The ‘Russian community’ in Crimea only dates back to 1783. There is a group of people called Tatars who are the ORIGINAL inhabitants of Crimea and were there when the first Russians appeared. While even czars made claims on Crimea it’s not really Russia’s territory. TSB, you need some history lessons.
My wife is Russian and our kids are half Russian… That said, while “my Russians” are nice (most of the time), as a people the Russians are generally very rude, angry, cynical, disagreeable, sarcastic and not into forgiveness or mercy. I mean, my father-in-law is just an indescribably horrible man who displays all of those bad attributes just mentioned.
I have some good experiences with the ones living here in Latvia too… mostly the middle aged women working in shops, who kind of like me and make small talk. I’m probably some kind of novelty for them, though.
And my sister-in-law in St.Petersburg is one of the softest, sweetest girls I know.
But overall, they are just the pits as a people, no doubt about it. I see it regularly in my daily life, sadly.
Jay, you just verified at least part of what I said about Russians. Overall, they ARE ‘just the pits’ as a people. LOL, I like that one. While there are some individual exceptions they are few and far between. If they ever met me or any other American I can well imagine how that would go.
DBH, So, the Russians are the “Pits” and the AngloSaxons are the all-knowing “kings”?. This is clearly coming from someone who has a very small dick and is afraid to show it. You know nothing about Russia, its history, its culture or its people. You are hiding behind keyboard, the armchair commando. Grow some real balls and first deal with some rampant fagotry in your your own land before you spew shit about people you know nothing about.
I rest my case.
Jay, TheRussian just verified what you and I both said. TheRussian must be overdue for another bottle of vodka.
Well the people of Crimea have made it clear they dont want anything to do with Ukraine after the western backed coup – they willingly rejoined Russia which Crimea was a part of for two centuries.
95% of Crimeans speak Russian and identify as Russian. 🙂
Actually the US staged a coup overthrowing the democratically elected government of Ukraine, looted their gold (see link). Backing this move, none other than the infamous George Soros. Its need my general position in the absence of other evidence that if Soros is for it I’m against it.
h ttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/ukraine-admits-its-gold-gone
George Soros admits to funding the Ukraine crisis
June 2, 2014
h ttp://www.hangthebankers.com/george-soros-admits-to-funding-the-ukraine-crisis/
George Soros told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria over the weekend he is responsible for establishing a foundation in Ukraine that ultimately contributed to the overthrow of the country’s elected leader and the installation of a junta handpicked by the State Department.
Ukraine has been getting punked by Russia for years.
It is about time someone helps them stop it.
rellik
The US with George Soros assistance overthrew the democratically elected government of the Ukraine and looted their gold. Its a fact.
See the links above
rellik
This is punked. Think those people benefitted from the Banana Wars? Smedley Butler retired as a USMC Major General and was TWICE awarded the Medal Of Honor.
I served in all commissioned ranks from a second Lieutenant to a Major General. And during that time, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism.
Smedley Butler
I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
Smedley Butler
“Ukraine” has been getting formed by Russia, not punked. 100 years ago was no such thing as Ukraine, not even “Ukranian language”. Before that western part was belong to Austro-Hungarian state and people was speaking either German or Hungarian. The rest of the land was Russian territory for a very, very long time, including Crimea.
Minchanin, today Ukraine is an independent nation for the first time ever in its history. Putin is trying to revive the old Soviet Empire or something similar to that. Moscow was working to undermine Ukraine’s sovereignty all the way up to Euromaidan and still working at that to this day. Ukraine has said, ‘HELL NO WE DON’T WANT TO BE PART OF RUSSIA AGAIN’. Who the hell can blame them after all they’ve been through under Russian rule, especially the Soviet era. Google Stalin and the Holodomor. He starved millions of Ukrainians to death in order to have all their farms collectivized. Far more people lost their lives to Russians than anyone else in the 20th century.I don’t see any proof for today’s Russians being much different from the Soviet era.
Kevin us correct. Dep BH is So Wrong and seeded with phony propaganda. Try some fact checking Dep BH. You been watching too many Israehelli sponsored US MSM News BS propaganda outlets.
Ukraine is not an independent nation. The US overthrew their democratic elected presudent whobwas pro rusdia and installed their 3ewish foreign minister. Its a sham fraud Government.
The Deplorable Braveheart
“Ukraine is an independent nation for the first time ever in its history.”
No such thing. The nations under the US “cloak of protection” are vassals. They when needed do as they are told. The US openly admits to arming insurgent groups to overthrow sovereign nations. As I said OPENLY ADMITS. This is a direct violation of international law yet not a peep out of those “independent nations”. The Ukrainian gold taken after the western staged coup; this isn’t a sign of an independent nation.
The US is the spear point for globalist business / finance. The justifications in the use of US force are at best ostensible (with exceptions of many years gone by) , at worst utterly fabricated.
Putin was a member of the KGB at the time the Soviet Union went out of existence. A state-sponsored organization with more blood on its hands than the SS or Gestapo ever had. Putin himself recruited foreign exchange students to be spies for Moscow. He has stated many times that he believed the demise of the USSR was a tragedy for the Russian people. Russia has been behind the ongoing conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan ever since the USSR collapsed. Communism didn’t die back in the 90s. It just went into hibernation in a closet. Ask any of the older people in Russia today who grew up in the Soviet era and they’ll tell you they were better off under communism. That’s exactly how indoctrinated they were.
” Ask any of the older people in Russia today who grew up in the Soviet era and they’ll tell you they were better off under communism. That’s exactly how indoctrinated they were.”
They had food, medical care and a place to sleep. Those things were not guaranteed once communism ended. Female medical doctors were hooking to make a living post collapse. Certainly freedom is a word with two edges. Your free to starve. I know, Stalin, 20 million died. That wasn’t the USSR of 1970. Like the USA with slavery and even the pre civil rights movement things change.
“Putin himself recruited foreign exchange students to be spies for Moscow.”
And George HW Bush when asked where he was on November 22nd 1963 his reply, “Somewhere in Texas”. Think as CIA director in the 1970s he wore a white hat? Explain Air America running dope in SE Asia. The list of nations the US meddled in their political process subverting democracy is huge. The US doesn’t wear a white hat either. The standard is “do you allow our business interests”, cut the nonsense of freedom, if yes fine, if no, that ok too.
In the end they were not as evil as the US portrayed nor is the US as benevolent. No one wears a white hat and when your allied with the interests of George Soros in the Ukraine be very skeptical of US claims.
No doubt this web site is being monitored by officialdom. Please pass along to TPTB who are trying to get the US embroiled in yet another g*ddam war to not include me when claiming to act in the name of the Amer. people. I’ll agree, Syria and Iran are not nice places, but they pose zero threat to the US. But no doubt our country will spend many more billions (if not trillions as they have for wars since 2001, and in reality accomplishing practically nothing where the Amer. people actually benefited).
The question is, for whose benefit are we dissipating our wealth and shedding our blood and destroying any good will we may have had? I saw a few days ago that stocks for several companies in the defense industry dropped when NK and SK declared a desire for the end to hostilities – what horrible news! Today I read that Bolton is likely against any peace initiatives there also – who is he working for? One thing is perfectly clear, it is absolutely of no importance what TPTB thinks of the Amer. people, we are considered disposable.
There are some who do matter; the Mil. Ind. Comp., lobbyists, central bankers, the deep state (and all the elements it is comprised of), foreign and domestic insider entities who exert inordinate influence in the economic, political, and cultural affairs of our country, to name a few. The gov’t is not calling the shots, it is but a tool for those who are really making the decisions. You will never see their faces or know their names.
Ukraine belongs to Russia, give it back to them. US aggression threatens the world to whose benefit? Not the citizens of the United States.
Aljamo, no Ukraine is an independent nation now and Russia is not entitled to it.
Dep BH is clueless on Ukraine and Russia. Stick to what you know. Searching for another used car and door knob shakin.
Russia is exploiting a fake cadre of Russian speaking refugees, instead of repatriating them, in the same way that fake Palestinians are not repatriated to their Islamist shitholes.
TSB, sounds like you’ve had too much of the Russian koolaid from RT and Sputnik. Those are just part of Russia’s MSM.
Sherman said “War is Hell!”. The fuel for the flames of that hell is the readiness of the leaders to fight that war to the last drop of someone else’s blood. This is even more true in a proxy war where we supply the means of fighting and someone else supplies the blood. The population of your own country object less to the debt incurred than they do to the casualties. That’s why proxy wars seem to drag on so long. We simply don’t feel the pain as much.
Russia should just be called an enemy, when American assets are used against them. That should be called a war, and the people fighting it, for America, should be considered on the American side.
Actually the world for the US citizen was better when the USSR existed.
1. The Islamic Crazies in the Soviet sphere were kept in check because the USSR didn’t want them dragging them into war.
2. US manufacturing was apprehensive of relocating to the 3rd world for fear of future potential nationalization so good jobs in manufacturing were more inclined to stay put.
3. The US treated many smaller countries with far more respect certainly not invading them for globalist business/financial consolidation for fear of USSR actions exploiting any discontent.
The US post USSR breakup is in a perpetual state of war and by every indication there is no end in sight. This is what happens when there is no credible rival power to hold the US in check.
A great American said once…can we.??ALL just.. get along.. good question…
What will hold the US in check is the same thing that toppled the Soviet Union, the means to sustain our military with borrowing. To support a strong military, you have to have a strong manufacturing sector. It’s the economy.
Brian
The US is unique in the world because of its large reserve currency status giving the USD far greater value than it would otherwise have. The USSR did not have this luxury. The US doesn’t outsource its weapons manufacturing and the quantity of weapons needed today, due to their tremendous capability requires far less resources then one would compare to, WWII. The day of a 12 million person military has went out with the M1 Garand. All the US needs is to maintain the “Unique Privilege” of the USD being the major reserve currency. Its actually in the interest of TPTB to industrialize the 3rd world, facilitate their indigenous demand for goods and have them use the USD to buy said goods/msaterial thus increasing demand for, and value of, the USD.
Kevin2- Good points. Even if the U.S. is the sole remaining superpower, there are limits to what we can take on at the same time. I think we are stretched way too thin and should be more careful about any future commitments. Hope that I wrong but I don’t think that I am!
Brian
The US commitments are way above defensive. In effect its a spiral that requires more nations to need the USD for transactions because of the growing debt to maintain that which is already there. In the meantime expansion is both the short term solution and long term problem.
I think of Lincoln with the above:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time”.
It behoves me how this can be indefinitely sustainable but they’re doing quite well up to this point. Ponzi is the core of everything today both domestic and foreign.
all at the US taxpayers expense, yeah let us raise the debt ceiling again