Would the US Military Stand Down and ‘Empower a Revolution’ If Faced With Riots and Civil Unrest?

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    In recent comments during a trip to Israel, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates discussed the escalating situation in Syria saying:

    I’ve just come from Egypt, where the Egyptian army stood on the sidelines and allowed people to demonstrate and in fact empowered a revolution. The Syrians might take a lesson from that.

    I would say that what the Syrian government is confronting is in fact the same challenge that faces so many governments across the region, and that is the unmet political and economic grievances of their people.

    On the heels of the Libyan invasion, it’s becoming clear that events transpiring in the middle east for the last three months may not be as they seem in the mainstream. Rising food prices and a hungry populace have been suggested as one of the key triggers for what was followed by several incidents of self immolation and then wide-spread civil unrest. The state sponsored media has provided ample reason for the protests and riots breaking out in a dozen countries, focusing on the peoples’ yearning for democracy and change as the primary motivator.

    It’s been parroted for weeks that mid-east leaders in countries like Egypt, Yemen, Libya and now Syria, are dictators and a threat to their people, as well as the United States. On February 4th, 2011, President Obama, speaking on the protests in Egypt, essentially gave a public , but cloaked decree to President Mubarak, recommending he resign:

    “What I recommend to him is, he needs to consult with the people around him in his administration. He needs to listen to what was voiced by the Egyptian people and make judgments about the way forward that is orderly, but it must be meaningful and serious.”

    “The key question that he must ask for himself is, ‘How do I leave a legacy in which Egypt is able through this transformative period?’ My hope is that he eventually will make the right decision.”

    While not aggressively calling for Mubarak’s resignation, Mr. Obama’s words were interpreted by US and Egyptian media as exactly that. Even President Mubarak understood what was happening, and began a partial hand over of power to his newly appointed Vice President. A few days later, Mubarak declared his refusal to resign. When the riots broke out, he likely believed that the US would fully support the Egyptian government. After all, they had been our “friends” for decades. The official policy and attitude of the United States towards Egypt was clearly defined by President Bush in January of 2008, when the President visited with Mr. Mubarak in Sharm el Sheikh, Egypt:

    It’s an important stop for me because the United States has a longstanding friendship with Egypt. It’s important for the people of Egypt to understand our nation respects you, respects your history, respects your traditions and respects your culture. Our friendship is strong. It’s a cornerstone of — one of the main cornerstones of our policy in this region, and it’s based on our shared commitment to peace, security and prosperity.

    I appreciate very much the long and proud tradition that you’ve had for a vibrant civil society. I appreciate the fact that women play an important role in your society, Mr. President. I do so because not only I’m a proud father of two young professional women, I also know how important it is for any vibrant society to have women involved in constructive and powerful ways. And I appreciate the example that your nation is setting.

    Progress toward greater political openness is being led by the Egyptians themselves, by pioneering journalists — some of whom even may be here — bloggers, or judges insisting on independence, or other strong civic and religious leaders who love their country and are determined to build a democratic future.

    Here’s a nation once described by President Bush as a longstanding friend and an example of political openness, women’s rights, and vibrant civil society, only to be declared a dictatorship by Western media almost literally overnight.

    Similar themes have been playing out throughout the middle east, including Tunisia, Algeria, Iraq, Iran, Bahrain, Yemen, Jordan, Libya and Syria.

    With the exception of Iran, no one in the White House or mainstream media really had any derogatory assessments of these other countries. And now, without warning, their people desire democratic governments? To be sure, the people of these countries have every right to protest, but something just isn’t right when you consider how the storyline has been developed.

    After the perceptive buildup of dictatorial, power hungry leadership in the middle east, it was only a matter of time before an example needed to be set. Enter Gaddafi.

    Libya, undergoing protests, riots and near civil war, seemed to be headed in the direction of Egypt, with an eventual voluntary transfer of power. Unlike Mubarak, however, Gaddafi rejected the West’s call for his military to stand down and pursued would-be rebels, going so far as to say they would be given “no mercy” if they continued their revolution.

    What happened next makes inquiring minds wonder if Egypt’s President Mubarak wasn’t privately “asked” by elements of Western governments that he should pull back his military and resign, or end up hiding in a hole like Saddam Hussein.

    Secretary of Defense Robert Gates may have just given the Syrians the same option. If the Syrians don’t take it seriously, or come to the conclusion that Mr. Gates is bluffing, they may very well host the next Libya-style no fly zone.

    Reasons provided by the US and coalition forces for the incursion into Libya is that the West is protecting innocent people from slaughter – a storyline that only sheep of state sponsored television could believe considering that the government of Bahrain allowed hundreds of Saudi troops to help quell the rebellion that threatened their monarchy. Government sponsored police forces are authorized to eliminate anyone who threatens the government, including unarmed protesters, many of who were shot in drive by executions:

    The US and Western coalitions pick and choose which innocent civilians are worthy of saving, and many have suggested that this is due to one specific reason. If you haven’t guessed, it’s closely related to the oil and gas reserves in the region, but according to Conn Hallinan, it’s a much broader strategy that boils down to regional energy control. The Saudis, being close allies of the US (for today, at least) have a pass to cleanse protesters who would threaten stability. Libya, of course, is lead by a dictator, thus he has to go – just like the Syrian leadership.

    Among the many inconsistencies with what’s playing out in the middle east is the question of what our President and Secretary of Defense would ask our own military to do if political protests, riots and violence erupted here in the US. Both seem to suggest that the leaders of these middle eastern countries, as well as their law enforcement and military apparatuses, should stand aside. Would the President of the United States, if faced with riots, molotov cocktails, and gun fire outside of the Capitol building or White House allow the military to “empower a revolution driven by unmet political and economic grievances” of the people?

    Estimates suggest that Mubarak resigned amid as many as 2 million protesters in the streets. This is about 3% of Egypt’s population.

    If the United States saw similar turnouts at Federal and State government buildings, would our leadership resign without a fight as well? Are we to believe that the same logic being used to compel dictators in the middle east to step down would be applied domestically if the people, in a public show of protest, deemed our government to be tyrannical and it’s leaders dictators? Moreover, does this mean that any such civil disobedience, riots, and gunfire would be ignored by military and law enforcement, who would be ordered to, as Mr. Gates suggested to Syria, stand on the sidelines?

    We’d like to believe it is that easy, except we live in a little place we like to call reality.

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      59 Comments

      1. Just Me

        General MacCarther had no problem using military force to chase demonstrating veterans from the  capital, and they were vertrans who had served their country and just wanted what was promised to them, 
          they would have no problem firing on civilians today, some may not want to or like it, but orders are orders. The cops would be worse yet, they wouldn’t even give it a second thought.

      2. sanityjones

        I’ll assume the question is rhetorical, thus eliminating the need for a long and rambling thought provoking response.

      3. Cynical Optimist

        This poor dead horse just can’t rest in peace…

      4. Band of the White Rose

        “…something just isn’t right when you consider how the storyline has been developed.” Because the storyline has been written by hacks.

      5. Bluebore

        I believe lkike all governments hanging on to power that they will use police forces, militray forces and all other agencys that deal with people in mass to control them By force, beatings, shootings, arrest and especially by implementing  martial law in effect .  The elits of the world dont want thier power and control taken away. d oyou think congress andthe president make the decisons? No way .Its the ones wjho control the money supply ,the Bankers and Central bankers  that dictate what and wer and how things will go .They are the ones that can fiance wars and either make them or break them .They can also have the power to cause Inflation  and   the power  manipulaten  everything from marjets to all Government institutuions . Its what you call a MONOPOLY .Do what your told and you will be a congressman and a president and collect your checks every month-dont do what we tell you to do and we wil make you go away or bankrupt you and Jail you  .
        what wil happen is that first they will have to bankrupt our Nation on the terms like the Great Depression .Make fod unaffordable and create a lack of supply to push up prices.Inflate everythign especially the oil supply which runs the world .Cause mass unemployment and make it to were more people and most the population is dependant on the Government for food, medical care and social security , Keep pushing them like cattle to the cages . Its allready occuring .The houseing market will double dip .do all of you really think you own home even if its been paid off ? Hell no  its not   !!!    The end game is when the people rebel, they riot and make demands that they dont want to bow to .then we will see the police state come into play .The pieces are allready in place.then we will see armed rebellion wer people will be killing to survive and fighting back .they will just surround the bigger cities and cut off water and supplies and wait it out for 3-6 months as people will mueder each other like one big priosion yard, those that try to get out will get killed by the Troops on the outside. Finally after mas death has occurd and the majority of the people are weak, hungry,m starving, sick  and desperate is when they will then go in to mop up areas of resistance  as the survivors will gladly be slaves and welcome it with open arms . For some a slave is better than ones own freedom .Believing that as long as thier heart beats they continue to live even if its a life of just mere exsistance .

        Global world order is coming,its a part of world Government .  Remember when you control the food and water and money supply of a Nation,your the ruler and when you also have military might it also makes you the enforcer .

        this gmo food, chem trails, acceptance of immoral behavior  in society and and amkeign everybody under an all watching 
        eye are just a few of the noticable signs .

        When theye come for your guns or have some Global or Nato law that America complies to passe by its Corporate Representatives ,you know the end is near . Die on your kness or fight for your Freedoms because that is all that will be left ! 

      6. Man of Freedon

        They might gun me down here someday too, but I promise you this…I will fire back! They won’t cut me down like an animal!

      7. Havok

        Either way, it will be different in the US. We can shoot back.

      8. Anonymous

        wow, Mac you’re obsessed with this topic….to put it simply, if the animals are rioting and looting then yes the military and LEO’s will bust skulls, if there is an uprising to restore the republic which equates to a round up of the criminals in the whitehouse and congress, or concietious objector actions, i.e. refusal to pay taxes, or obama orders gun confiscation, or orders martial law imposed for anything other than criminal rioting, then no, the vast majority will not  go against the population, in fact many would help. I know lots of military guys, and to a man, all hate obama and know what he is about.

      9. Michelle

        @Havok
         
        Excellent point – I believe we have a better chance of convincing LEO and the MIL that it’s pointless and the end result if they win is against them anyway.

      10. REB

         Remember “the best laid plans of mice and men tend to go awry” they(TPTB) are but men and I suspect they are very poor examples of the species!

      11. Anonymous

          This story reminds me of a cartoon years ago where a F-4 crew is going through their elaborate checklist with engines screaming and weapons pins being pulled before being hooked up to the bridal.  They go into burners and do their wipe out, just as they finish the RIO calls the Boss and says were “Were down Boss”. 
          A couple of Africans in their African native dress are in front of the aircraft and just chunked a spear at the front nose wheel. 
          I see a black swan in the future.  Going to be a lot of people re-learn that they can’t eat paper investments but they will eat them wishing they had some A-1 sauce while Air Force One flies away.

      12. SmokinOkie

        About 3% of Egypt’s population rebelled, huh? Way more than 9 million americans turned out for all those tea parties around the country so we already have the required 3%. I guess it doesn’t count as real rebellion though since they weren’t tossing molotav cocktails and such.
        And as far as US foreign policy- it’s now pretty much like our game shows: spin the wheel and see where you stand today. I can picture the mideast dictators clustered around the wheel yelling “big bucks, no whammies!”  

      13. sanityjones

        When in doubt, self immolate.

      14. Dboy

        “Either way, it will be different in the US. We can shoot back.”
        Yes. We can also choose when, where, and how. No reason to fight when they want a fight. It’s likely they would provoke in order to draw out “the enemy” (us). That’s exactly the time NOT to fight.  I am reading 2 recent books on counterinsurgency warfare. I have Petraeus’s book, along with “How to Eat Soup with a Knife”. Both of these represent the state of the art in US military thinking on counterinsurgency…highly worth reading.
        As far as the original question of the article…would they or wouldn’t they…the question is so embarrassing as to not warrant a discussion.

      15. Dboy

        Probably also good to look at the tactics they used in the past. For instance, from what I have read of the analysis, when the Feds surrounded the White House with DC transit busses all butted-up to each other..it seemed to work pretty well. I would expect them to at least consider using that tactic again.

      16. SSPXER

        Comments…..

           Has anyone ever considered emigrating to a lightly populated land mass and just starting over?

           Seems to me 100k patriots would easily be able to dominate the political scene in a country like Greenland or Iceland.

           In such a situation we could build a country much like the one we list in 1865 here.

      17. SSPXER

        Comments…..

        uh….that was supposed to be “much like the one we LOST in 1865 here.”

      18. SmokinOkie

        This is off topic but I just had to pass it on–Wall Street Journal (3/23/11) says Detroit population declines 25% in past decade. Mayor wants a recount. The mayor’s reaction, and I qoute: “If we could go out and identify another 40,000 people that were missed and it brings us over the threshold of 750,000, that would make a difference from what we could get from the federal and state government.” WOW!! Where do we even begin to analyze this? If the mayor’s first reaction to losing a qtr mil people is to measure that in lost goodies from the gubment- maybe it’s the ENTIRE MINDSET of the people who live there, including the idiots they elect to city offices. When your whole damned world-view is predicated on what you “get” from the government, it’s no wonder you’re a declining craphole of a city. Even among the sheeple there are those that eventually wake up. When they see where they are, the first thing they do is get the flock out of there. This kind of stuff just boggles my mind!

        Sorry for the rant…we now return to the regularly scheduled topic…

      19. stubbornpatriot

        Americans wouldn’t go out like that!

      20. SmokinOkie

        PS- I sincerely apologize to any readers from Detroit. Doubtful there are any here though. Probably the last Detroit resident with a survival or prepper mindset moved out long ago…Still no personal insult intended. And feel free to say anything at all about Okies…we can take it.

      21. Comenius

        The military, like the Pratorian Guards two millenia ago, will stay loyal to whoever pays them and will shoot down anyone who the payer says is his enemy.
         
        Re-read the history of 30 years war. Far more people died due to the ravages of the military (at that time little more than a bunch of mercernaries who only cared who paid them), than at the battlefields.
         

        The military’s loyalty will be owned by those who can pay them. Nobody else.

      22. Anonymous

        SSPXER, the only place that comes to mind is the Bikini Atoll that has never had war and we nuked the hell out of it, didn’t we.  The politicians won’t go there.  Okie you are always off subject.  Last I heard even the poor were escaping from Detroit and homes are less than $1000.  Not sure about the back taxes & city trash service.  Never been there but I read that produce/food trucks have armed guards while unloading curb side over a year ago.  I thought guns were illegal up there?  You hurt my tender feelings when you rolled over.

      23. fiftyfive

        Right on above! Four Dead in Ohio…are not the Military kind of on the Federal payroll? Where is my next check coming from seems to motivate a lot of folks these days. Or is Palin coming riding in like Joan of Arc to Up the Establishment? The flip side of are you prepared = what are you prepared to do? Expatriate sounds more and more like non-violent resistor to me. Peace be with you all- our day is coming.

      24. Buro

        Yes, they will shoot back……..duh.   Question is will we and to what end.

      25. rickky

        No the us military wouldn’t stand down. They will follow orders, at least at first, things I would not have thought possible such as government orders at Ruby Ridge to shoot the children if they get a chance, The injection of so much tear gas into Waco that they admitted that they knew the children couldn’t survive as they didn’t have gas mask. (the official autopsy said that they died from the gas as it caused them to go into such spasms that it actually broke their bones )and the military was there and just watched. In Katrina the army didn’t have any problem with helping to disarm the people even thought they swore to uphold the constitution.

      26. Bill

        Only thing I can say about Okies is that they can sure as hell cook up a tasty meal.  That’s all i know about em……..    That and maybe that I’d take them on my side if I had a choice.
        Anonymous – “I thought guns were illegal up there?”  HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa………

      27. caryn

        Comments…..i do believe that given certain circumstances our u.s.military would in fact stand down…most of them are making just enough money to keep them slightly above or below the poverty line without benefits and their benefits are way overrated compared to private sector. and within many military communities, there are not that many who “revere” their commander in chief obama. you would be surprised to find out that a good many “tea partiers” are veterans, and active duty military. give credit where credit is due…military men and women are not stupid and they know what is happening in the civilian world probably better than we do and we are the ones they’ve sworn to protect. even the queen bee of a hive can get annihilated for doing something stupid. if obamas government continues to be stupid, what ever happens is gonna be his fault and his government puppets will not remain as they are….mainly because he and his crew have no respect or regard for the population he swore to serve.

      28. Mardochee Augustin

        Well it depends. If it is to provide security then they will only shoot trouble makers,looters,gangbanger etc. However if they receive to disarm the people,arrest patriotic leaders then they will stand down.
        In my opinion if there is a massive economic collapse it will be very difficult for the government to maintain martial law. First off the nation it to large to occupy.Even if the military manages to acquire all 1.5 million reserves and utilize 1 million of it’s total 1.5 million personnel in the Navy, Army, Marines, Air Force and Coast Guard, it would struggle to control 308-310 million citizens in a land mass of 9,161,966 sq km.
         
        American law enforcement numbers are not as strong as some of you think. According to the BLS (bureau of Labor Statistics), there were only 883,600 law enforcement personnel in 2008. And that was before the financial collapse and subsequent layoffs in local departments across the nation. The number included detectives, managers, police and sheriff’s patrol officers.
        So when you add the 2,500,000 soldiers and the 883,000 law enforcement, you have a force of 3.3 million agents. This is less than one percent of America’s highly-armed population. Most of these agents will be working logistics and support for handling prisoners, transportation, intelligence and supply. But this isn’t even the biggest problem.
        The police are used to dealing with people who are afraid of them and have something to lose. In a collapse scenario, the rioters will lack both characteristics. And the military will be poorly suited to police a populace that is desperation for resources. If the soldiers became violent against the population, they could divide the armed forces and spark a civil war. Moreover, Iraq and Afghanistan has shown us that the U.S. military is not invisible and that guerrilla warfare tactics can be deployed successfully against a high-tech army.
        It would be very difficult for the U.S. military to successfully implement martial law throughout the entire country at any given time. This would mean that they would have to secure hundred of thousands of neighborhoods, while securing all major airports, power stations, communication towers, water facilities, nuclear power plants, military bases, food distribution center, grocery stores, government official buildings and highways while keeping everyone in their homes after 6pm.
        Bringing in foreign troops would problematic, because if the U.S. is in a panic, wouldn’t the other countries that are so heavily tied to America also have their own problems. Plus, we know how well foreign occupations went in Afghanistan, Vietnam and Iraq.
         
        Also think about it how on earth will they coordinate thousands of police departments,federal agencies and the military to do gun confiscation,martial law  at the same time? Guys think with logistics,.      Rember Waco when those BATFE agents went on an ill conceived military raids and they got smoked. Imagine at least 10,000 Waco every day to get all the guns. It is is impossible for them to disarm us unless they want a civil war or revolution.
        In conclusion, a military lock-down of the entire country at any given time would be impossible with the assistance of foreign troops. Adding foreign troops would increase the manpower, but severely damage the credibility of the force. Such a situation would encourage more violence against the martial law force. The U.S. government may attempt to lock the country down, but it would end in failure and possibility set the stage for a civil war.
         
         
         

      29. a_jackson

        Absolutely NO question – most police and military will fire on US civilians when ordered to do so… I have it on solid authority from multiple sources from the inside. It will however be a total bloodbath given the number of angry, armed and bloodthirsty citizens. Once word gets around that gun-confiscation is underway, the first few servicemen that come through many doors will be mince-meat… only to be followed by a more servicemen with grenades which will abruptly end said bloodbath. Personally, I’d rather be dead than disarmed, brutalized, humiliated and caged any day.

      30. sanityjones

        @ Mardochee Augustin. Heard of ‘see something, say something’? That’s how it will be done. The groundwork is already being laid. That coupled with fantastic rewards from Obama’s unlimited stash will be more than sufficient to entice many of the 4o% of entitlement minded sloths to join the Brown Shirt regime, all in the name of American Patriotism. They will be handing out badges like they’re free and the MSM will have a citizen policeman of the day every night at 6 and 10. Of the remaining 60% of the American population, some 40% work for the government, and since that is going to be the only employment opportunity available in the immediate future do you really think they are going to attempt to stop the unstoppable at the risk of their own security; however imaginary and fleeting that may be? The answer is no, they will not, so count them amongst the “well it sure sucks to hear about johnny but I got’s to do for me and mine” crowd. Of the remaining 20% most will be too busy hiding out in their basements, bunkers, and safe-rooms frantically pecking away at their key boards; bitching and whining, foaming at the mouth on any and all blogs they can still access to be of much value out in the real world where the 2.5% of what’s left of the unbridled American spirit is dying in the streets; their final thoughts being “I thought for sure there would be more of us”. Never underestimate the power of greed, lust, or unrestrained evil.

      31. Dave

        The reason why Americans aren’t in the streets in bigger numbers is easy, our fridges are still full of food!
        Only when that changes will you see a more serious uprising.

      32. Mardochee Augustin

        @sanity jones To create a Brown Shit(and I meant it)  type paramilitary force in the middle of an economic collapse you would need funds to do this job. If there is a dollar collapse with what will you pay the people? A new dollar currency which one new dollar equals 5 cents of the old currency system?
        Second the military DO NOT LIKE CONSCRIPTS or DRAFTEES ! I read a book recently on the Vietnam War called “RIPCORD SCREAMING EAGLES UNDER SIEGE VIETNAM 1970” by Keith Nolan. In it tells the story of the 101st Airborne fighting the bloody battles in the Battle of Fire Support Base Ripcord at the A Shau valley.. Any way multiple times in the book there was tension and sometimes hatred between draftees and enlistees. Also many Shake n Bake officers gain promotions without any military experience. The point is if the feds do something like this there will be tensions between this Federal Paramilitary force and the US military.
        Third you will have to train these conscripts on how to police the streets. Who will train them ? The military? Nope they won’t.Most of these welfare kings and queens,thugs,prisoners,regular unemployed male and female have no military experience,some never fired a gun before. So if you give a man who knows welfare his whole life surplus M4 rifle with 120 rounds of ammo ,flack jacket,helmet,boots and give him no prior training into policing the streets he will likely loot shoot and kill. Or will have no idea how detain folk and start killing folk left and right that will be a receipt for disaster.
        Trying to arm the cold blooded prisoners,welfare folk,thugs,students,gangbangers will not end well if they try to pull of a paramilitary force. It would fail very badly. The military will hate this paramilitary police force and it would likely lead to a civil war if it ever came to it.
        If this force is ever funded,organized and trained(highly unlikely) and tries to do gun confiscation,arresting patriotic leaders with no warrant  this will not sit well in the military and it will lead to a military defection. So it is not easy just giving a guy a badge and guns with no training  and tell him to police his neighbor hood. I see this unlikely to happen. If it does happen it would piss of the military.
         

      33. kevin

        Comments…..I’m with just me # 1 comment. But I would like to add that mcaurther was a A$$hole!

      34. Dan

        One thing we learned, or at least should have learned in Iraq is that nearly every household had an AK-47 at the time of the invasion, and still does. In other words everyone had effective modern military weapons yet they were not free. Ergo by contradiction possession of arms is not the Sine qua non.
         
        It may be important, and I think that it is, but in and of itself it guarantees nothing.

      35. sanityjones

        They need not win the hearts and minds of a majority. They only need to make examples of a few respected voices of each community. Why else do you think a couple of assholes with box cutters can commandeer a jet FULL of people and use it to indiscriminately kill thousands of people? How is it that an old lady can be mugged in broad daylight on a crowded city street and no one seems to notice or care? You do not understand human nature or history if you believe that many in our own military will not kill their own citizens. No one wants to die, and no one especially wants to die today; which is what makes it very easy to force the herd into submission with very limited, though well implemented show of force. We can agree that Civil War will be the ultimate result, however I think many will be surprised by the demographics of the combatants.

      36. Anonymous

        you people can pick small, isolated incidents where handpicked thugs were willing to do evil, but on a large scale, good will prevail, this is still America, and whether you want to believe it or not, the majority of the people are still basically decent folk.

      37. Anonymous

        and the expert on everything, rango boy, in  5  4  3   2 …..

      38. rickky

        We have 20,000,000 illegals over here how many would join Obama’s brown shirts if promised amnesty and a few dollars, remember most are between 18 to 30.

      39. NMCB3

        I have no doubt the brainwashed military would kill Americans, and there`s no doubt the media would convince the majority of stupefied Americans that it was the right thing to do.

      40. tekroanin

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        Obuma YOUR Illegal Commander and Chief ; just loves you boy’s all sweaty in uniform… NOW STAND your lil’ Soldiers at ATTENTION for his Inspection – Atten’ HUT! lol ;0P
        America is soooo Fk’d!
        -TRUTH!
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         

      41. cyber_samurai

        Our troops don’t have to shoot at us. Our military is training troops from other countries to “quell our unrest”. There’s a military training camp in Desoto National Forest that has signs in english and RUSSIAN. Go figure.

      42. ?

        Its already started people…just not at a big enough level that it alarms enough people.

        one day could be your worst, and than you become one of the persecuted..and persecuted i mean by our own governments and sytems..

        notice recently where someone goes off, and the newsreports that the person made a rant on some internet site, or had an opinion about how things are being run in this country, they get a lable right at that moment.
        they are already using a persons opinion against them without trial..and or will be used and or twisted to be used at their trial..or judgement.

        it’s begining to get to the point where they are going to use anything they can and will against you, when it becomes convienient for them to do so.

        low profile?,too late, and if you already post on this blog it will probably get used against you or could be at someday in your existance in this country

      43. sanityjones

        you people can pick small, isolated incidents where handpicked thugs were willing to do evil, but on a large scale, good will prevail, this is still America, and whether you want to believe it or not, the majority of the people are still basically decent folk.
         
        Yeah……….911 was a small isolated incident in the grand scheme of things, but the fallout was/is HUGE. The Patriot Act comes to mind along with the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and God only knows where else this trail will lead. People may be “basically good” on an individual level but corporately they are either complacent enough, greedy enough ,or just plain cowardly enough to let Evil prevail on a day to day basis; the proof of which may be examined at nearly every perceptible level in American society be it moral, social, economic, etc, etc. So you see, “basically good” is insufficient in and of itself, which begs the question: when basically good people do nothing while evil prevails, are they really basically good?

      44. Farmers Daughter

        My question is what are the true reasons
        all these riots and unrest are occurring in
        over 17 country’s as we post?
        One blogger cited “Egyptian bloggers have been writing about repression in Egypt for years. The desire for reform comes from many directions, the Islamists are indeed one aspect of the puzzle but hardly all – there are also the Left, the educated elites, and probably most important of all – the poor. There is a lack of meaningful work and distribution of wealth is extremely uneven to say the least.”
        Is that not what is happening here, in America?  We are just at the beginning stages of unrest in this country and though it has been peaceful so far, the time is coming where the demonstrations will turn into riots.
        When that occurs, do you think the NWO will send US help to oust our corrupt and immoral leaders?  I think not.  Will the military fire on it’s own civilians?  I think not.  Answer?  They will send in foreign troops to do the dirty work. (10k Chinese troops south of El Dorado, TX) Do you think the Zionist’s wanted a white man to take the fall in the white house?  I think not.  That’s what Obama is for.

      45. Ben

        Comments…..The only thing in the favor of the U.S. citizens facing riots, martial law, or foreign troops operating on U.S. soil is the fact that Americans are the most heavily armed people in the world, and prepared to survive most conditions faced in such conflicts.
        If American citizens are ever fired upon it will result in a blood bath of those who fired on us, not to mention the capture trial and execution of all persons taking part in the ordering of any troops, agents or foreign (U.N.) troops ordered to take hostile action against us!
        Americans have already prepared to fight our own government and have been in the process of preparations for a good many years now, because of the infiltration of a Kenyan spy into the office of President of the United States. We already know that the government of the founding fathers is no longer in existence. When we do move it will be for a complete “CHANCE” back to our Constitutional form of government!
        Personally I am ready and I say our return to a Constitutional form of government is long long overdue! My only hope is to survive it till the capture of the imposter who fraudulently occupies the Oval Office, so that I may be the one to drop the trap door on the gallows on which that imposter and his allies and conspirators drop to the end of the ropes!

      46. Mike L

        Interesting if this is right, <a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership”>Wiki Link</a> that Yemen is in second place in number of guns per 100 people and yet their government remains in power.
         
        Many forget that the military and police forces will still need to feed their family.  They might not get paid for their work but they can be fed.  Which is more important then money when you’re starving and stores are not always open (during an uprising say).  Their families will be kept out of camps which will also entice them to obey, no matter how wrong.  If they’re single it might be another story.  But if they have families and kids… Food will win them over I bet.

      47. tom

        Kent State, remember that? Of course they will shoot.

      48. Incriminally Sane

        When a Revolution is “sparked” in America, there will be MASS KILLINGS by air not by gunfire! They will bombard the skies with Biological, Chemical agents to kill the “Protesters” en masse. The major controllers of the American Government is not only the Bankers from the Central Bank but the Nation of Israel and the Military Industrial Complex that we have been financing over the last one hundred years.
        There is a huge lie that has perpetrated against the people of the world! Call it a “Delusion” of sorts that causes you to think along “Abnormal” lines which is causing you to become docile towards your “Masters” that have been feeding you these lies over the span of your life. Move back to basics and research HISTORY and you will begin to see that “History” is repeating itself once again and that is simply caused by the same controllers of the world replaying history for you and the majority honestly believe  that the outcome will be different each time, This is the true definition of INSANITY!

      49. Thatchickencoopguy

        Several points before it gets to whether the military will stand down or not.
        Point one – Americans are by in large pretty apathetic. As long as the gravy train continues and they get to vote for their favorite “idol” while chowing on their ever so nutritious nugget meal people could care less.
        Point two – The mainstream media was bought lock stock and barrel a long time ago and as long as most sheeple get their news pablum from the mainstream media, well refer to point one.
        Point three – the military knows and sees how they are treated when they come home. They can’t get the basic medical care they need for themselves or support for their families while they are away. Do you really think they will shoot someone who is in the same basic boat as themselves? Some will, those are the ones who desire further advancement in the “club”.
        Point the last – Only an idiot would make themselves a willing target. yes, I know the way the world is going it can royally piss a person off but one needs to pick their battles. Play it smart keep your head low. invest in silver get as much dried food stored as possible. Get out of the city you may find yourself in, get to know the back roads in your area. Pick a spot to go to dig in and wait for the smoke to clear. it’s hard for “them” to shoot those they can not find.
         
        Fortune favors the bold and smiles greatly on the prepared

      50. Key West

        They aint getting me! I know the mentality of these types I was married to a guy that was an Army Ranger and then worked as a prison guard for years. A big bully! Lots of weapons in the house, chip on his shoulder, never a good student in high school, not college material so he joined the military. The only way he could “prove” him-self was to bully me and others…well in his mind at least.

      51. c

        If you listen to the first interviews of the man in the streed in Egypt, they said clearly that the issue was jobs, food and hunger. It was the western media that later began transforming it to patriotic and democratic and interviewed only certain figures who spoke that way.
        Look at which nations began to have unrest. They were mainly US “friends”.  The unrest is being supported so that the new world order can be put in place. Old governments must go. And the people will support “their” new leaders and the direction they lead which will be toward the One World Government. ( and enslavement )

      52. c

        Farmers Daughter: “The Zionists” are not part of the New World Order. The leaders of that organization are Russia, China, The League of Arab nations and Brazil. Those are not Zionists.  The US and Europe and Israel are considered the old world order and are as we speak being milked of our resources and wealth.
        Obama is nonwhite and muslim so he is more acceptable to the world than a white American President and he has not problem dismantling the US that he does not like.

      53. sanityjones

        Please give some specific examples of parts of the U.S. that Obama has personally dismantled or is personally dismantling.

      54. Elgallo

        Only two words are needed here as a responce:  KENT STATE

      55. Ed

        Tom is probably correct

        The Feds will bomb the population with aerial bombarements.
        They are currently doing it at a lower level with chemtrails and other weather modification programs.
        Eventually ground troops will come in the clear out the “enemy”, thus the NWO will achieve its goals of culling the massings.
        The US government as most govts. are good for two things- lying to their people and killing them off using various means(fluoride in water, GMO’s, medications, etc.)

      56. Luke

        This is why I long ago stopped feeling sympathy or sorrow whenever I hear or read about more U.S. military casualties in Afghanistan or Iraq or anywhere else, where our not-very-bright and easily snookered troops have been sent to fight in illegal and unprovoked wars that Israel and their 5th column of treasonous, war criminal neo-cons have lied them into over the last decade.
        These troops in today’s military are incapable of independent thought and are nothing more than heel-clicking, drugged up, crazed psychopaths who would eagerly slaughter millions of patriots in the U.S. if their criminal masters ordered them to do so.  And, I doubt they’d lose a wink of sleep over it – since I suspect that the handful of soldiers we have left who still have a conscience – are among the numbers of troops who are committing suicide.  Which leaves the animals and the blood-thirsty psychopaths – who ZOG will one day unleash on us in America.
        Hence, we need to cheer every time we see an Iraqi or an Afghannie reduce the number of mercenaries who we will one day be facing in North America.
        How’s that, for a somber assessment of the sorry state of affairs in Amerikwa today?
         

      57. tekroanin

        NWO U.N. Blue NAFTA DHS – COP KILLER
        Bye Bye American Pie!
        I shot and killed a NWO U.N. blue Cop with my .45 semi-auto black glock today… a Disabled, Homeless, Cold and Hungry Veteran… I deserve more  than this… now I live beneath a bridge… why? why? why?
        I had done my time… stood my watch upon the wall; a Gaurdian of Liberty… now a cop killer?  Running from the Law… why? why? why?
        The false NWO IMF homo druggy prostitute barry soetoro- a.k.a illegal president Barack Obama and AIPAC israeli jew controlled U.S. congress… stopped my Social Security check the other day… on april 8th, 2011… they broke america’s piggy bank… gave away the pennies to the banks and told me “sorry” none for you! You are Many! And We are Few… MORE FOR US! None for You!
        I am a Disabled Veteran… I once Served My Country with Honor and Pride.
        I killed a NWO U.N. blue NAFTA DHS Cop Today… why? why? why?
         I had robbed the local Korean corner store… while the radio on the shelf played “Bye Bye American Pie”…  I’d only pocketed a milk, hot pocket and a pie… ran by the screaming korean clerk for the open sky… hopped on my ex neighbors kids pink huffy bike… peddling in a craze… hauling fast down the lane… making my one handed get away… thinking “bye bye american pie”… smiling in mirth… while with my other hand grabbing from my shirt, a half frozen Hot Pocket… then a crushed Moon Pie… shoved both gleefully in my mouth… I had gotten away … then I sweared “shit!”… it all dribbling down my beard… I thought; I shoulda done like Ben Bernanke… and taken more, more, more…
        Then down the way… my calves screaming in pain… I slowed down… a mistake… I’m screwed now… an NWO U.N. Blue NAFTA DHS Cop car pulled up behind, tires screeching… siren blaring , lights a twirling, screaming over the horn “PULL THE HELL OVER!”
        At that time… I said to myself “FUCK IT!” an thought “I’m homeless cold and hungry”… this Asshole Cop  isn’t gonna do me like “Rodney King”!… “The NWO U.N. IMF Fuckers did this to me”… I skidded to a stop “swiiishhhh!”… planted my worn out boots upon cold concrete… reached into my sweat soiled pants waist… an pulled my cold heavy .45 glock like slow dead weight… fingers numb… pointed it at the windshield of the NWO U.N. NAFTA blue patrol car… looking the Cop dead in the eye… I recognized him, he use to be nice to me, always smiling when we met on the street… Officer Friendly, now wearing NWO Camo Combat Gear, with U.N. Sky Blue Patches… once our neighborhood hero… here to “Protect and Serve”… now no more… now he is a DHS Federalized Thug… a NWO U.N. NAFTA blue Storm Trooper Whore… ordered by our illegal false president obama to “Punish and Enslave!”
        And while the innocent child in me… kept asking… “why, why, why ?”… the newly found stone cold cop killer in me… didn’t bat an eye… I aimed an pulled the trigger BLAM  BLAM BLAM 1,2,3… right through the windshield… into the NWO U.N. blue NAFTA DHS Whore’s red screaming face!!!
        There I stood astride my pink huffy steed… staring dead pan at the car’s brown vinyl covered rear seat, red blood, white bone chips and grey pink brain matter splattered over it. Staring through the shattered windshield and GAPING red hole that had been a human face.
        Humming to myself “BYE BYE AMERICAN PIE”… thinking “I’m still Hungry!”
         
        author after note: Wake up America, there are foreign troops and american traitor troops under the United Nations blue Flag, NAFTA blue Patch and IMF Bank Control right now; at this very moment here on American, Canadian and Mexican soil. Just waiting for our Illegal President Obama to call MARTIAL LAW! Upon which time they will invade america and place you all; america under their U.N. NWO IMF military control. It’s either YOU or THEM!!! U.N. AGENDA 21 is here!!!
        NOW is the time to…
        Talk to family and friends…
        ARM UP STOCK UP PREPARE
        PREDITOR OR PREY THE CHOICE IS YOURS!
        And remember all US POLICE and SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS , NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS ARE NOW FEDERALIZED UNDER U.N. NAFTA FEMA DHS-UNITED NATIONS CONTROL!
        They are not here to protect you! They are here to disarm you – “Punish and Enslave!”
        To Force you all under their one world government control – NWO Debt Slaves one and all!
        U.N. AGENDA 21 is here!
        … spread the word.
         
         
         

      58. tekroanin

        NWO U.N. Blue NAFTA DHS – COP KILLER
        Bye Bye American Pie!
        I shot and killed a NWO U.N. blue NAFTA DHS Cop with my .45 semi-auto black glock today… a Disabled, Homeless, Cold and Hungry Veteran… I live by the river beneath a bridge… I deserve more  than this… why? why? why?
        I had done my time… stood my watch upon the wall; a Guardian of Liberty… now a cop killer?  Running from the Law… why? why? why?
        The false NWO IMF homo druggy prostitute barry soetoro- a.k.a illegal president Barack Obama and AIPAC israeli jew controlled U.S. congress… stopped canceled my Social Security check the other day… on april 8th, 2011… they broke america’s piggy bank… gave away the pennies to the banks and told me “sorry” none for you! You are Many! We are Few… MORE FOR US! None for You!
        I am a Disabled Veteran… I once Served My Country with Honor and Pride.
        I murdered killed a NWO U.N. blue NAFTA DHS Cop Today… why? why? why?
         I had robbed the local Korean corner store… while the radio on the shelf played “Bye Bye American Pie”…  I’d only pocketed a milk, hot pocket and a pie… ran by the screaming korean clerk for the open sky… hopped on my ex asshole neighbor kids pink huffy bike… peddling in a crazed manic flight… hauling fast down the lane… making my one handed get away… thinking “bye bye american pie”… smiling in mirth… while with my other hand grabbing from my shirt, a half frozen Hot Pocket… then a crushed Moon Pie… shoved both gleefully in my hungry mouth… I had gotten away … then I swore… “shit!”… it all dribbling down my beard… I thought; I shoulda done like Ben Bernanke… acted like a greedy Banker and taken more, more, more…
        Then down the way… my calves screaming in pain… I slowed down… a mistake… an A.P.B. an All Points Bulletin – had gone out – “All Patrols Be On The Look Out for a Crazed Bearded Hobo Bum, Riding a Stolen Hot Pink Huffy Bike Down Main Street!”; I’m screwed now… a NWO U.N. Blue NAFTA DHS Cop car pulled up behind, tires screeching… siren blaring , lights a twirling, screaming over the horn “PULL THE HELL OVER!”
        At that time… I said to myself “FUCK IT!” an thought “I’m homeless cold and hungry”… this Asshole Cop  isn’t gonna do me like “Rodney King”!… “The NWO U.N. IMF Fuckers did this to me”… I skidded to a stop “swiiishhhh!”… planted my worn out combat boots upon cool concrete of the street… reached into my sweat soiled pants waist… an pulled my cold heavy .45 glock like slow dead weight… fingers numb… pointed and leveled it at the windshield of the NWO U.N. NAFTA blue patrol car… looking the Cop dead in the eye… I recognized him, he use to be nice to me, always smiling when we met on the street… Officer Friendly, now wearing NWO Camo Combat Gear, with U.N. Sky Blue Patches… once our neighborhood hero… here to “Protect and Serve”… now no more… now he is a DHS Federalized Thug… a NWO U.N. NAFTA blue Storm Trooper Whore… ordered by our illegal false president obama to “Punish and Enslave!”
        And while the innocent child in me… kept asking… “why, why, why ?”… the newly found Stone Cold Cop Killer in me… didn’t bat an eye… I aimed an pulled the trigger BLAM  BLAM BLAM 1,2,3… I emptied the clip right through the windshield… into the NWO U.N. blue NAFTA DHS Whore’s red screaming face!!!
        Empty inside… now that I had unleashed all my NWO New World Order – Bilderberg Debt Slave Hate!
        There I stood astride my stolen pink huffy steed… staring dead pan at the car’s brown vinyl covered rear seat, red blood, white bone chips and grey pink brain matter splattered over it. Staring through the shattered windshield and GAPING cavernous blood red hole that had been, Officer Friendly’s Red Raging New World Order U.N. blue NAFTA DHS Cop Face.
        There I stood… Humming to myself “BYE BYE AMERICAN PIE”… thinking “I’m still Hungry!
         
        author after note:
        { There are over 600,000 unemployed war trained experienced Homeless poor starving Veterans just like our “hero” above walking thru your yards and living in the woods of your neighborhoods!} Just think about that for a moment America… there are more Veterans joining our ranks every day from the Illegal NWO Global Domination Wars and Economic Debt Slave War here in America. JUST PAUSE THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE!  Scary???? Maybe a little.
        Wake up America, there are 1 million – 1,000,000 foreign troops and american traitor troops under the United Nations blue Flag, NAFTA blue Patch and IMF Bank Control right now; at this very moment here on American, Canadian and Mexican soil. Just waiting for our Illegal President Obama to call MARTIAL LAW! Upon which time they will crash the dollar, invade america and place you all; america under their U.N. NWO IMF military control. It’s either YOU or THEM!!! U.N. AGENDA 21 is here!!!
        NOW is the time to…
        Talk to family and friends…
        AMERICA IS A LIE owned controled by The Bank Of England!
        YOU ARE NOT FREE!
        ARM UP STOCK UP PREPARE
        PREDITOR OR PREY THE CHOICE IS YOURS!
        And remember all US POLICE and SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS , NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS ARE NOW FEDERALIZED UNDER FEMA, DHS, NAFTA -UNITED NATIONS blue CONTROL!
        They are not here to protect you! They are here to DisArm you – “Punish and Enslave!”
        To Force you all under their nwo one world IMF WORLD BANK government control – NWO Debt Slaves one and all!
        U.N. AGENDA 21 is here!
        … spread the word.
         
         
         

      59. Hiram Meadows

        I believe that the military would be split in two. The ones with their minds in the correct place would in deed be on the side of revolution. I also feel it is time for a up rising of the people, in order to achieve true freedom .Lets face the facts. we live in a society that loves nothing more than to label everything ! thus creating a division amongst our fellow Americans! We the PEOPLE must unite ! We need to stop complaining and  start doing what ever is necessary to protect our freedoms even if that means we put our lives in jeopardy.united we stand ,divided we fall it is that simple. I would rather die with the boots of FREEDOM on. than DIE with the SHACKLES of SLAVERY on . the choice is ours alone. I have 1 question for every  American. DO YOU HAVE THE BALLS ? to do the right thing! as for myself i promise  i swear i will kill any or all whom try to make me a slave or die trying . HOW about you? Stop complaining and start doing something about it! Our children’s future depends on our actions . I don’t know maybe you want your family to be slaves ? I have a family and i am willing to die for their future . Are you COWARDS or are you MEN ? the choice is yours. remember this when and if REVOLUTION comes to America . the true patriots will put you on trial for crimes agiants Humanity . how do you think you will be judged? I will not hisitate to put a round through the head of the TRAITOR . and will not loose any sleep from it .The choice is yours! I am not a COLD hearted KILLER! but when it comes to my FREEDOM ! SORRY you loose ! STAND UP AND BE COUNTED OR SIT DOWN AND BE SLAVES! I am standing up for myself and my FAMILY. What are you going to do?????????    Comments…..

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