Will You Submit & Obey?

by | Jan 27, 2013 | Headline News | 451 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    In New York, we have a prequel of what’s to come – the repeal of the Second Amendment and summary criminalization of peaceful citizens merely for possessing the means of self-defense, even in their own homes. As in Great Britain, citizens of NY  face prison if they use proscribed weapons against murderous thugs – even in their own homes. The tyrants Michael Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo have made their decision. Now New Yorkers will have to make theirs. And so will the rest of us – if, as seems likely, the federal tyrants succeed in issuing a New York-style fatwa that applies to the rest of the country. Which brings us to the question:hag one

    What will you do?

    It is a very hard question. Perhaps the hardest question Americans have had to face since 1861. As then, there may be no peaceful way to preserve our rights. There may be blood. As then, one side is absolutely determined to impose its will at bayonet-point. To murder us in the thousands – perhaps millions, this time –  if we refuse to submit. There is no reasoning, no discussing. What we face is violence against our persons by people who absolutely will not leave us in peace – no matter how peaceful we try to be – until we have submitted to them utterly and for all time to come. We wish only to be left alone – and demand that our right to defend ourselves against those who will not leave us alone be respected. That self-defense is the most basic of rights – a right conceded even to the lowest animal. They do not acknowledge our rights; they despise the very notion of us having any rights at all. They regard their power over us as limitless in principle – and rage at even the smallest assertion of freedom of action. They loathe our guns because our ownership of guns is an expression of our determination to defend our very lives – and thus, of self-ownership.

    And that is what cannot be tolerated. Which is why the current bum-rush to disarm us has become absolutely frantic. The moment is at hand. We will either stand up and be reckoned with as free men – or we will sit down forever and accept any degradation, any humiliation. And in that case, we shall have proved worthy of such treatment.TSA 2 Future generations will look upon us with the same mixture of incomprehension and contempt that our generation looked upon those who meekly lined up naked in queue for their turn at the edge of the pit. Because it will come to that, in time.

    For decades, in a slow and incremental way, they have progressively increased their claims on us. On the most intimate details of our private lives. On our literal bodies and those of our children. We no longer enjoy even the vestigial liberty of being free in our own homes. They are everywhere. They recognize no limits, no boundary beyond which they may not assert themselves over us. They read and record our conversations. They demand to know the minutia of our finances. They tell us with whom we must do business – and under what conditions. They lay claim to an unlimited amount of our income. They deny us even the prospect of real ownership of anything more than the clothes on our backs. They assert their “right” – that is, their unchecked power to do us violence – for any and no reason at all, beyond the reason that they have power and we do not. We are on the cusp now of literal, physical enslavement. Of being owned – because we are about to be rendered utterly defenseless.

    Legally rendered defenseless.Holocaust

    If that is not just cause for resistance, then there is no cause for resisting anything, ever. Which is exactly the point being insisted upon: That we have no right to resist, because we have no rights. It is our role to Submit and Obey. Immediately, quietly. To anything and everything they tell us to do. To complacently accept as natural and right that our lives are the playthings of others – who may do with us as they please. That our lives do not matter. Because we do not own our lives.

    Our lives are owned by them.

    If we lose this battle, then we have already lost the war. The rest will be a mopping up operation. Having taken away not merely our guns but succeeded in intellectually defrocking us of the principle of self-defense and self-ownership that possessing arms affirms, it will be a very small thing indeed to take away much else besides.To take away anything – perhaps everything. Why not? We have already surrendered – and thus, already accepted the idea that nothing is off limits, that whatever small measure of vestigial liberty we may still possess is not actually possessed but merely tolerated . . . for the moment. And may be taken from us at any time, at their whim.jefferson 1

    A defenseless man should expect no mercy. And a man unwilling to defend himself – and his fellow men – against tyranny deservesnone.

    Michael Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo have made their decision. Diane Feinstein and Barack Obama will soon make theirs.

    Then it will be our turn.

    I have already made mine. It is the same decision made by Joshua Boston (USMC):

    “I will not register my weapons…

    “I am not your subject…

    “I am not your peasant… .”

    I am not a “tough guy.” I am not looking for a fight. Rather, I desperately wish to avoid one. I’m a middle-aged American just trying to live my life, work, enjoy my pastimes and my friends and family. To be an American. A free American. I dearly value my life. Which is precisely why,  if I am backed into a corner by those who refuse to leave me be – even though I harm none – then I will turn and fight. God help me.

    God help us all.

    Eric Peters is an automotive columnist and author who has written for the Detroit News and Free PressInvestors Business DailyThe American SpectatorNational Review, The Chicago Tribune and Wall Street Journal. His books include Road Hogs (2011) and  Automotive Atrocities (2004). His next book, “The Politics of Driving,” is scheduled for release soon. Visit his web site at Eric Peters Autos.


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      1. Stand up and fight. If it all goes to hell fight like hell.

        • While I’m optimistic about the Sheriff’s movement against federal gun grabs across the country, I’m suspicious as well.

          I know that in my county, the Sheriff has re-sworn to uphold the constitution and not collect guns, even in the face of federal mandate — but here’s the hypocrisy — he and his department accepts thousands and thousands of dollars from the Feds in cooperative policing agreements wherein they have already conceded law enforcement jurisdiction to federal agents within the county. I have a copy of this agreement that the county sent to me per my request and have read it in its entirety and can see on paper behind the Sheriff’s own signature where he already sold us out. And I’m sure that nearly every one of these other counties has done likewise in order to get their “obama money”.

          So when push comes to shove, how do you stand up against federal tyranny when you’re already a partner through a purchased agreement?

          • Your county sheriff may end up being like most of the world when dealing with US.gov. Take their money then give them the finger.

            Let me get this straght– I should trust and meekly submit in every way to a government that:

            A) Gives itself the authority to kill me whenever it wishes.
            B) Gives itself authority to kidnap me and hold me for as long as they wish without ever charging me with any crime.
            C) Trusts The President of Egypt, who has declared that he has two enemies– Israel and USA, with 16 F-16s and 200 Abrahams tanks (and demands that I pay for these as well), but not Americans with a semi-automatic rifle and 30 round magazine.

            OK, got it. Sounds perfectly reasonable.

            What could go wrong?

            • Well stated, Bob!!

                • But somehow, I am more dangerous by owning an AR-15.

                • they “called” it an exercise..are we really sure thats what it was? or was that cover for what was really going down?

              • I can’t wait to start registering my vibrators

          • SterlingSilver, I agree with you. Even the smallest sheriff and police departments across the USA have been given insane amounts of money to purchase military type weapons and other things, some of which police departments shouldn’t even have access to. As long as these police departments keep accepting these payouts they really are under the thumb of the feds.

            • Don’t lose focus. Help create the kind of atmosphere in your town and county that makes their coming over to us at the right moment easier. I WANT to have the kind of hardware these guys do on OUR side if/when it hits the fan. If they show their hand now and begin making noises, they not only lose the money–OUR money–that could be turned against the tyrant, they mark themselves early as troublemakers.

              I don’t think folks know how much of a psychological game is being played on us and how important it is to play in that arena to. I write in to as many columns across the net as I can, all for one purpose: to condition people’s understanding and get them comfortable with the idea of resistance in a myriad of ways.

              Don’t worry so much about what the sheriff is buying now and with what money. Worry more about how you are creating the kind of hatred of the tyrants in Washington that, when the time comes, you local people turn on them.

              • “All War is Deception” — Sun Tzu

                Make no mistake, we are already at war. A war not of our choosing, and not by our aggression, but by the aggression of “our” government against its own citizenry.

                The war is merely not a “hot” war ….. yet.

                • It is an Economic war.
                  When Rahm Emanuel asks banks to ‘push’ firearms manufacturers, they have stepped over the line, this is called ‘Restraint of Trade’.
                  But lefties don’t care if its in the way of their agenda.

                  Its getting close to that time… what time is that?

                  Saying DK was probably right (Gasp).
                  almost time to put on those old combat boots dk.

            • Kraz: You are correct. About two mon ths ago we were returning from a trip in Florida’s panhandle. As we entered our own rural county in norther Florida we saw a Sheriff’s armored vehicle and on both side it said it was from DHS. From time to time we have the small, and I mean small, dope dealer busts, but no major labs either here, or in the surrounding counties. So the question is: why does a small department need an armored vehicle?

          • There have been no federal gun grabs idiot.

            • JoeinNC,

              You are one the drooling lap dogs Joe, hope you can handle it when you realize that you are on the menu as well.

            • Your either an idiot or troll looking for a fight. Well, not going to get one here troll. Because we all know idiots like you have an agenda, troll.

            • JoeinNC
              What about federal land grab as in the eminent domain clause. In reality the government can take away anything they want as long as they give “fair” compensations – if you believe they are fair to your standards. Freedom here in the USA is only free if they don’t infringed on anybody else. If you don’t think they can’t outlaw what they want to outlaw then just think of the Prohibition or drugs (which are hazardous to your health and life) then outlawing guns on the ground that they are dangerous to people is not far behind. The Second Amendment is not about guns for hunting. It is about the necessary weapon to keep the government in check to prevent tyranny. The government is elected by the People to serve the People of the USA. Taking guns away is the first step in the process to take away everyone rights. No guns = no freedom.

            • keep it up JNC, you’re only serving to steel everyone’s resolve. You are, without a doubt, the best enemy TPTB has…an AGITATOR against them. But that’s your job, isn’t it? to keep stirring the hornet’s nest until somebody breaks. Does your DHS supervisor approve of all of your logged on time, or are you actually spending some of your break time doing this too?

              We know what you are, but you don’t matter. At least, not to us. I hope your next raise wasn’t contingent on your success here, because you are a failure…and life will go on without you and your agitation…I just wanted you to know that you are STILL nothing, a peon both at your desk AND here.

            • Go pound sand up your ass!!!

            • Hey Joe…no gun grabs YET…they already have outlawed supersize sodas without so much as a whimper. If they can make laws against the size of a soft drink, they can TRY and make laws against anything.

              Oh and in case you missed it you might want to listen to some of the older videos of Diane Fuckinstein saying how she would have banned ALL guns if she could have gotten the votes…so tell me again how they dont plan to do that if they can find a way? If you dont think that they are trying like heck to do just that then you are the idiot calling the kettle black.

            • But law abiding citizens were disarmed and left for the thugs after Katrina…..the “government” has already done it….

            • Except for hurricane katrina, the 1934, 1968, and 1994 gun bans, etc…

              • Exactly, Eisenkreutz. Without difficult to obtain Federal PERMISSION, one can neither manufacture, sell, purchase, nor possess a fully automatic weapon.
                THAT is a “gun grab”. And only one example.

              • Revoke all gun control laws.

            • Hey guys, you can trust the government to keep their word…..just ask any American Indian. (Purposely NOT Native American, I am also tired of political correctness.)

              • its not political corectness to call american indians native americans, it is the person in questions right to call himself or herself either or. I personaly like Native American for myself. And being part of A.I.M. American Indian is good too 🙂

                • If you were born here then you are a “native”. If not then you are not. Can’t get much simpler.

                  Uncle Frank

            • JoeinNC: Then I guess all of those laws and regulations since the 1930’s are just figments or our imagination. You have a serious problem with reality pal. Actually the whole thing started in 1775 when our fellow countrymen (Brits) came to disarm the folks in Massachusetts. The Brits were after the assault weapons of their day. The Brits were getting worried that all the taxes, regulations, and other abuses they were infliction on the rest of us (quartering soldiers, heavy taxes, silencing of decent in speech and the press) was about to boil over in to armed conflict. Now fast forward about 238 years and a similar theme is developing. History never really repeats itself, but it often rhymes. So Joe, today you get an “F-” in Early American History. I want you to take this note home to your parents and I want them to sign it. Later, I’m going to have to set up a parent-teacher conference with them and discuss your other academic deficiencies as well. You can ameliorate this F- by writing a report on the other two riders who, along with Paul Revere, made that historic ride to warn that the British were coming. It should be no less than 500 words. You have until this Friday to turn in the assignment Joe. And no plagiarizing either!

              • @Gregory8, good one, lol.

              • Gregory8

                Actually Revere and the other riders rode through the countryside shouting the “Redcoats” are coming. Remember the colonists considered themselves British and yelling British would not alarmed them but “Redcoats” was a different thing and all pretty much knew what that meant as the Redcoats had been staging these raids for some weeks and this was well known.

            • Joe, you are down 200 to 7. Perhaps you are on the wrong website? Or perhaps not, and you are a masochist?

            • 229 thumbs down. I think that’s a record JNC?

              I take exception to your remark. In fact, I’m offended, I hereby virtually slap you across the cheek.
              This is legal in NC, it is considered an Insult not an assault.
              I challenge you to a duel, since you’re in NC…

              You think I’m kidding?

              Yo’ mama.

            • @ Joe in NC:

              Are you really that insane only that comment. Pity.

            • So the military going door to door during Katrina didn’t happen? You obviously are completely stupid, a troll or one of those Army False Personas trying to convince us the Fed is on our side.

          • if the sheriff agree not to collect our guns then lies for a show on TV and says he won’t, It makes you wonder if he’s playing the feds and will not collect but collect money. But if he breaks his promise the people will not break theirs to defend themselves even if its the sheriff’s dept themselves that try. Many will give them up and many will go down doing the right thing and this will be the biggest fight and breakout of riots etc ever. It’s getting closer and closer. Just be smart and know in your hearts you are not a criminal. You held your ground against the corrupt liars and thiefs in the world. You prey that you did the right thing and do what you must. Many of millions will do the right thing.

            • The elite in our government, big corporations and unions, run this country with an iron fist. This fist is in our faces now and we can either allow them to pummel us to death or fight back with a million fists. This is a pivotal point in our country, our America. When I hear the slobbering lap dogs howl and grovel to these monsters, it makes me ill.

              These inhuman ego maniacs want to take away my kids dreams, my kids hope, my kids imaginations, my kids future. If you love your children as most parents do, if you love your grandchildren as most grandparents do and if you love your country then you must speak out and never give an inch, not one more inch, as so many have stated.

              We do not wear tin foil hats here, we know what this is leading to and we are many.

              Never before in our history has it been so complicated with the world on fire, this country being taken over by psychotic monsters who hold tremendous power over the media, the 50% population who depend on them for a free ride, the corporations who they are in bed with.

              How could we just sit back and allow this to happen, would you allow someone to take your child from you while you were watching? I will not stand for this as long as I am breathing, I would be willing to fight and die if I had to in order to preserve the rights that America has always stood for.

              This game of manipulation and mind control has gone on long enough. They laugh at you lefties who adore them, they play you like a fiddle. Do you really think you will get special treatment because you were one of their groupies? Not a chance in hell, you left wing nuts and everyone else in the country will pay dearly if they get what they want.

              What do they want? They want complete control over YOU, YOUR KIDS, YOUR LIFE, YOUR DREAMS, YOUR HOPE, YOUR IMAGINATION, YOUR VERY EXISTENCE. Filthy vile evil is walking the earth right now and it will never infiltrate me, I will die one day like everyone else but I will die with dignity and pride in knowing that I never gave in and I never gave up.

              If you’re not mad as hell now then you better get that way because you will need a fire in your gut to fight what is coming. They want you defenseless and harmless, while they have armed guards for themselves and their children. They have cadillac health insurance, they have years worth of stored food and ammo, they have everything that they don’t want you to have. This is the most depraved and vile administration that this country has ever lived through.

              It is not speculation, it is not a joke, it is not a conspiracy theory, it is real and it is here NOW.

              • Live Free or Die: “They” don’t want control over all of us; “They” want all us dead.

                Patriots we need to go on the offensive. Its time to demand all of the 20,000 gun laws on the books be repealed. However, since that will never happen by due process then we all know what the alternative is don’t we?

                The Four Boxes That Preserve Liberty: The Soap Box, Ballot Box, Jury Box, Lastly The Ammo Box.

                Good Day…

                • I have to disagree with “they want us all dead”.

                  Dead people don’t make very good servants.

                  • Don’t have to feed dead servents.

                  • No, you don’t have to feed dead servants.

                    But if you don’t have servants – you have to do the work yourself.

                    You really think that’s their preference?

                    They may not like the serfs, but they need them.

                  • UN Agenda 21, they want 80-90% of us dead. They only need so many fuedal slaves, not 7 billion.

                  • They want good little sheep, they don’t want us…

                  • Let’s say “mostly dead”, with the survivors picked for docility and technical skills.

                  • They will have plenty of servants. The ‘eaters’ who make up the 50% of the population who are nothing but takers.If those who oppose them are dead or subjugated, then the “fundamental change of the United States of America” will have happened.
                    The PTB have weakened our economy, our military, and our moral and spiritual codes.

                    I once put my life on the line for my brothers in arms and for my country.I fought for survival and for the freedom of those oppressed . As God is my witness, I will do it again. Not with a happy heart but with a resolve that this was meant to be and always shall be a country based on liberty.
                    Be well and stay safe.

                  • I agree. They don’t want us dead, they want us, our children and grandchildren to keep paying our ever rising taxes, food bill, gas prices… etc, etc, etc…

                  • No, they just want “US” dead, us from who’s guns they will pry from our cold dead hands. They will keep all their good sheeple lackeys around to be their servants.

                • When are the little brush fires gonna start?

              • Well said live free. now what? Theres so much talk but not much action. I for one will not go quitely into the night. There has to be a next step.so what is it? Tell us.

              • Amen LFoD,
                I have to add some preachers to your list however…

                Heard one speaking of no matter how hard times are, there have always been hard times, but that doesn’t change the need for us to do the RIGHT THING, support our leaders, pay our taxes and don’t forget God’s little tithe…

                I’m sorry, many of them truly are the Daughters of the Mother of Harlots whose name is MYSTERY Babylon the Great.
                Those who keep the people in submission, and turn men into apathetic sheep.
                Rereading Revelations makes me see, that it is quite a bit of a condemnation of the Churches…

                Sorry if this offends anyone, but the truth hurts.

            • Let’s see…one sheriff, a few deputies.
              Hundreds of fun owners.
              Would it be so hard for a sheriff to see which side to be on if any gun grabbing occurs??

              • hundreds of gun owners–gee, for an edit button, or I stop multi-tasking!!

                • You were right the first time too!!!!

            • @clint, as of 11:12 pm, 1/28/13, i’m only seeing 35 that will hold their ground. that’s not good.

          • It’s not about fighting like hell. Fighting is hell. There are no rules. There is nothing considered fair. You will not be resupplied and most lastly… You will be considered an insurgent by 50% of the people. As a people, Americans are most determined to their causes and I pray when the violence erupts I will maintain my moral character. Don’t pray for us… Pray for those that intend to do us harm because we will kill them.

          • Initially, the Jewish Rothschild banking cartel funded Hitler and the NAZI Party, with the confidence that they would control all.

            Yeah, that worked out real well!

            Still can’t find the clause in the agreement that clearly states the mortgage holder will be paid back with 6 million of his own…. DEAD!

          • If the Sheriffs across the country are taking government money, does that not make them the same as any other welfare recipient, beholden to those that provide for them??

            • No, once the SHTF paychecks are going to stop sheriffs included. Everything is going to go to hell. Here’s the 64 dollar question: Are there large numbers of foreign troops in Mexico and Canada just waiting for the rebellion to begin? Watch out for that one folks.

              I attempted to check out the Laredo Triangle 70 miles south of the border. The place was crawling with Federales. No success its going to require some hiking in and out and a RC drone to photo what might be in the area?

              If there are foreign troops near our borders I say when the party starts come on over boys. We’ll show you how barbaric the Americans can actually be. Can anyone say lampshades made out of tattoos?

              Good day

              • Foreign troops in Canada? Um, no, there aren’t. In case you haven’t noticed, my PM doesn’t really have much use for your ‘president’. There is also no change to the gun laws here, regardless of what some mentally deficient asshole did in CT.
                What are in Canada are a large number of your cousins, watching with alarm the events taking place to our south, and in most cases ready to assist the cause of freedom, as we have done before.
                Despite what you may have heard, we are actually in this together. Don’t worry about our military. We can’t look after ourselves, much less invade you.

                • Bailey in canada,in a bar in anacortes,washington,a large group of canadian military came in and when they started to get drunk,they started mocking americans,after a while longer they started saying when the order was given they were coming across the international border,and kill everything they saw,SO fuck you troll,your in bed with the russians and we knew you would be………………

                  • Canadians are not all of one mind.

                    We may be assisted by Canadian citizens while military units work against us. We may get good intel from Canadian observers. We may see Canadian units do maneuvers that are intentionally useful to us while being deniable. Canadians may work against us after we run out of money. They may see us in need and help. There may be a spread of revolutionary and separatist sentiment (remember Quebec!) that will be inspired by Americans doing what we do best. Vancouver BC has more in common with Washington and Oregon than it does with Ottawa, just like the West Coast and the Inland PNW could do without the Beltway vampires.

                    We have space, fresh water, good mineral deposits, a bunch of good ports and enough food. They have the temporary ability to project military power. We’ll see how that works out.

                    The States invented the Federal Gov’t and could be responsible for smothering it. Start at the County level with your elected Sheriff.

                    There’s a street with my family name on it in Vancouver, B.C., after the people got kicked out of New England in the 1770’s for being on the wrong team.


                  • Drunk Canadians may not be your most reliable source for information, just saying…

                • Thanks…we will need all the allies we can get

          • @steeling silver
            This is the very reason that all of us needs to understand that when each of our time comes we probably will be making our stand alone. I would call upon those among us who has the experience to initiate an attack. First begin to assassinate the body guards in public of those being protected and continue this process until the very person taking your rights no longer has anyone willing to provide them with protection. Second key in on the politicians that are propagating this attack upon Americans.

            Then the structure begins to crack, the hunter becomes the hunted, if we can’t get to them then I am sorry for saying it we get to the ones they love. They are also in this and are benefiting off of all of our backs and our deaths. It is war now no political figure or their allies should be spared. When three hundred people for a rally are being harassed by the police, who are also in this to gain control of you then instead of yelling why are you doing this we have been peaceful we are harming anyone ? The response should be to form a circle around them, close in very tight, wrap their weapons, vests and helmets off of them and begin to take them and beat the very life out of them. Once people begin to respond as this is a all out assault on society then and only then will we have a chance for real freedom.

            It is clear that the democrats have figured out that if they say something is law and act as that is it people will just follow and go along with it. The Republican Party has been playing by nice guy rules, as they are but sorry the time for nice is over. We are being systematically corralled and readied for slaughter. It is time to realize that there is no maybe civil war it is war and the longer we try to use logic and statesmanship we will slip further down the slope and into slavery. Pick up your arms lock and load, pick your targets and start enslaving them. Watch how fast the frankinsteinish Feinstein runs for the hills when her guards drop around her not knowing if the next shot will be in her head ! Watch what happens when the money momgers are afraid to get out of their cars because their head may get blown off. Whatch what happens if just three percent of this country enacts war on every politician who took part in this and every banker that made billions off those that lost everything.

            Sorry folks many of you may hate my views, but then again I sought any of you will be standing next to me when I fire the first round in the head of the first person that tries to enslave me and my family.

            • You are correct in saying we will stand on our own, but the insurrection you seek will not occur WITHOUT a major catastrophe as a catalyst. Be prepared to see lots of otherwise law-abiding citizens paraded to jail, or carried away in body bags on MSM in the very near future. The sad reality is we face a mutually grim future regardless of the path we take.

              1. Stand/Fight and be killed, leaving our families defenseless to live in a corrupt, lawless world…

              2. Surrender our guns, and with them your freedom and dignity in the process to live in a corrupt, lawless world…

              3. Get lucky enough to kill some of the Elite who create the corrupt, lawless world, only to be thrust into a world living life pre-1893, only to repeat the endless loop of Build, Elite take over, Die-off (Mostly common citizens and enough Elites to scare the rest into hiding), Reset balance of power to the Citizens, (Only for a short time, and just a farce anyway) Build Again and Repeat endlessly.

              The history of society is UN-changing; Those who have the power endlessly struggle to oppress those who don’t, and those who don’t, toil for them until they finally get sick enough of the oppression to do something about it.

              Who steps forth first to feed patriot blood to the machine of the NWO? What, no volunteers? nobody like the “Options” there are to choose from?


              • CRC,yes they do intend to kill a lot of americans,the ones who have no god will lose hands down,they were defeated before they started,LIKE YOU,will we be living in the 1800’s,yea we probly will,but we’ll be free to do as we please,if we lay down it will be slavery till the end of time,I’ll pass on the slavery thing,ANYONE who thinks everything will be OK by laying down,go back to sleep,your already gone,those of you who love the lord,you’ll be OK,don’t take the mark,don’t coperate with anything they want,resist till the day comes when they attack and they do plan on a surprise attack,it’ll work at first,everyone will be surprised………….

            • To which may I add:

              “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

              -Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsen, The Gulag Archipeligo

            • A law repugnant to the Constitution is null and void.
              Something about m vs m.
              Keep your battle blade sharp.

          • OK Sterling,

            Here is my take as a former LEO. I think about half of the big city police chiefs will enforce any gun law (Los Angeles, NY, Chicago etc….), and here is why. Back in 1992, after the LA riots, then Mayor Tom Bradley went on national TV saying that he needed to be given the power to hire and fire the police chief (Darrel Gates) to make sure that the riots never happened again. A Prop (F) was put on the ballot and passed. This gave the Mayor the power to hire and fire any police chief. Similiar mesures were passed across the nation.

            What this did was give the power of the local police departments to politicians. Who ar considered the most corrupt people in the nation/world? Politicians. And the people had just given the politicians control of law enforcement to the most corrupt people known. Now look at what has been happening since. All the scandals, all the corruption…. It was because people listened to corrupt politicians and gave them more power. Yes, Rodney King got his ass kicked, but once that was passed, all the gangsters used to try and taunt us into an ass beating because “If you do it, I will be a millionaire like Rodney (who died as a father’s day present to all you dads out there)”. There was no longer the fear of an ass whooping at the end of a chase to stop the gangsters from running, and it became a media circus. It sold airtime, and news time is the most profitable of all air time on prime time TV working on over a 50% profit margin.

            Now what you have are police chiefs controlled by politicians (Like LA’s Antonio Villa-Raigossa who was at the DNC with all the cronies voting to maybe put God back into their party) and the politicians want the guns. Anyone who voted for a similiar law in their area is responsible for the gun confiscation if it happens (harsh, but true, sorry).

            Now on the flip side, this is a double edged sword. The Federal govt will not ALLOW local law enforcement agencies to enforce ANY Federl immigration laws, so the precidence is set. Local law enforcement CAN’T enforce Federal law by the Federal governments own admission. If forced to enforce gun control, it opens up all enforcement, including immigration (one of Dear Leader’s pet projects).

            I think they will try for compliance first, then heavy regulation and a media burst on how uncool and unhip it is to own a gun. You will start seeing prominent liars (I mean actors)taking roles villafying ALL gun owners. There is too much opposition to gun control still, even on the Democratic side, but don’t give up one inch people. I don’t have to repeat it for this room, we all know where gun confiscation leads.

            Keep your powder dry,

            • guess what? the mayor dies first. now who fires who?

            • @JJsan, insightful, thank you.

          • STERLING,your optimistic HUH,LET me make it clear for you,theres not a law enforcement agency in america who has EVER stood up for the CONSTITUTION,EVER,they get their job,and from that point in time on they robb everyone blind,IF they’er your hero’s I’am sad,but the truth is they sold you and your country down the shitter a long time ago,they kidnap your children, protect the criminals in government who are robbing you,they enforce illegal laws,they steal your homes,your cars and anything you have they can sell at there auctions,they refuse to arrest politicans who are so crooked,everyone in town knows there on the take,and trust me,they will come to your house with and illegal swat team and kill everyone there if they feel like it……………..

          • @ S.S. Yea,the GOV’T has always used MONEY to ‘BLACKMAIL’ the world to get it’s way!! Along with ‘carrot on a stick ,midnight raids ,and show of force!! They have many tricks up their sleeve to use against US!! NO PLACE for an ‘OLE MAN’!!

          • Some but not all Sheriffs……Wake Co NC, Sheriff Donny Harrison will follow the orders of the Feds, not the oath he took!

          • Your Sheriff would be a fool to not accept those Federal Funds. I’ve seen this very meme several times now.
            He can accept what ever the hell they will give him, and that’s GOOD! it’s just that much more gear that is de-centralized and available.

            It’s OUR money. Yours, mine, all of ours and if you can get any of it back, be it a can of soup or an up-armored HUMVEE, DO IT!

            It’s not what your Sheriff takes from them, it’s what he does when they attempt to force him to crush your rights that matters.

          • Although he may have sighned an agreement to work with federal agents his first sworn duty is to uphold our Constitution. Any law inforcement officer who breaks the freedoms that are granted to us by our Constitution, Should be treated as Domestic enemies and the people need to bear their arms together against them. It must be We The People. We are America. That has always been our strength.

          • When the economy collapses, all Local Law Enforcement will be federalized.
            It will be the only paying gig in town. There will be people lined up for the jobs and they will report to the feds.
            They will do what they are told until the hazards of the job become to great.

        • No, I will not do either.

        • “don’t go down without one helluva fight.”

          • -With spent brass all about my feet!

        • I heard that old bag Feinstein on the news yesterday saying “We don’t need these weapons on the streets of our cities”, funny thing is, I don’t know one person that bought a gun and gave it to someone on the street. No one wants an AR-15 on the street, that’s why we buy them for our homes, because THEY won’t get them off the street!! It would be nice if they hassled the gang bangers about their guns as much as they do ours!

          • Well, they already know where to find us—the criminals, on the other hand stay out of the light as much as possible. They might actually have to go outside and find criminals…us, they have our home and work address, and a way to track us wherever we go. We register our vehicles and have insurance, criminals do not. We have jobs, most criminals do not. We can be followed by our bank cards, criminals use EVERYBODY ELSE’S BANK CARDS. We need to think outside our normal boxes now. We need to become just as hard to see coming as a thief in the night.

            • sixpack,

              The good guyes don’t need to hide.


          • But I’ll bet she goes no-where in public without guns by HER side. Hypocrit that she is.

          • They wont go after gangbangers because not only is a vast huge base of the dems party them bangers, but bangers innercity Yoooots, is who they plan on useing to exterminate Us.

            Then like done in germany after end of WWII, even Innocent Non involved germans familys were booted from Their homes. The german peoples homes were handed over to sevaral Million immigrants from Russia and Poland that beagn to Flood into germany for just that reason.

            Innocent white christian german folks got booted from own homes so Kommie Bolshevik jew russians and polaks could occupy it all.

            Read all about it in, General George Patons Diary. In a Book wrote called that back in 1976(?). Patton was honcho in chagre of resettlement of them kommie jew russians etc and Hated the job once he realized we fought the Wrong enemy in WWII! he says that also in his diary and letters to wife and several other friends he had.

            Thats reason Patton was Assainated by USA fed gov. He spoke Truth and got whacked for it.

            This time for American whites once They exterminate Us, it will likly be Mexican illeagles newely handed instant citizenship by their New messiah Hobammy.

            Still tonite on fox tv they kept repeating that 11 million illeagles number! When they and we know its way more…More like 30-40 million by now.

            Plan A= Destroy home values by at least 1/2 to 2/3 orig value….Make afordable for New “citizen” mexicans.

            Plan B= Start a revolution due to destruction of 2nd ammendt. Allow 50 million innercity dwellers and their Yooots gangs to do the murdering of mainly whites who own guns and who reject all kommie crap etc.

            Plan B+= Get as many mexican gangbangers and worthless useless 3rd world type illeagles as possible to Join blacks and assist against whites.

            Plan C= Find a New army general to cunduct the american form of home give-aways to 3rd world types and lowlife illeagles aka new citizens who will vote dems the next 100 yrs for such a great free deal!

            Amazing Finestien-hobammy-bloomberg-cuomo ET AL, actually believes this can all be done by simply passing antigun laws, then murdering 100 million mainly whites and do so smooth as done in Russia 1918 era eh!

            Plan D= Wait till smoke clears, to write the histroy of how Horribly Wrong it all went for Finestiens Ilk!

            And Woe! To All libs-blacks-mexicans-whites-bolshevik jews who go along with Their totally Evil Kommie plans to Murder Us and Our families!

            One of Us is better than 10+ of Them and Theirs! never ever forget that. We hold every sq in of moral high ground in every issue facing us today. They hold nothing but whatever Evils their Father Satan, the Devil loans to them untill he gains Their souls.

            We may be the ones that end up sending their souls 1/2 the journy there(Only the Lord can sentence them…But sombebody has to send them to Him).

            • gang-bangers stand out like a turd in a bowl of clam chowder. easy targets, next after the politicos. they drive distinctive cars, just like the politicos. they dress differently than non bangers. take them out one by one. now we’re getting somewhere…;)

        • How much more of this crap will it take before we all say enough is enough and Start demanding that the repubs start impeachment trials ?
          i for one have started writing all the repubs in my state and demand that they at least address the idea.

          Obummer has done more then enough to get impeached. the take over of the car companies obummer care etc after all clinton only lied about a little hanky panky in the oval office.

          Obummer has spent billions and billions of our money to force his crap on us. he has spent our money to give his backers for election pay back. and his union cronies. he lives high on the hog yet we all scramble for scraps his weekly campaign style trips to push his illegal Laws on us cost millions Air Force One is his taxi but WE pay the bills
          his golf games and now we find he like skeet shooting at camp David. how nice
          Can you go shooting when you like ? if your like me you can’t. i can’t afford to waste ammo since his big mouth opened and caused major shortages.

          he has committed numerous acts of treason against the citizens of the united states

          and yet day after day i hear nothing but crickets from the Right. these cowards need to be told that come mid term elections a large majority will be looking for a new job if something is not done

          WE the Citizens of the united states NEED actual leadership not these Pansies that we keep putting back in because we have all become too lazy to actually do any real work. we need real leaders not bought and sold liars of the nearest lobby group

          Harry the shit weasel Reid needs to be retired to some out of the way nursing home he is senile
          and while were at it some important questions need to be asked about his past. such as the story of the young women who accused him of improper advances and was later killed in a car accident. ( shades of ted Kennedy )

          Diane Feinstein needs to go and go now and take Barbara Boxer with you. maybe these two can stay at Pelosi’s Place.

          Bloomberg and his ilk need to be placed on the permanent unemployment list. Bloomberg recently gave a billion dollars to his favorite school HOW about that same money going into the NY school system or does he know something we don’t such as NY s school system is a big scam.

          and lets all push for term limits on the state and Federal level
          two terms and your out and this goes for those fossils on the supreme court
          Ruth Bader Ginsberg is well past retirement age
          i for one favor two 4 year terms for ALL and just stagger when they come up for re election
          It might be a bit confusing but i am sure we can get by

          PUSH for impeachment and Push now or we all face War

          Impeach the Kenyan
          Don’t buy into his Crap and Don’t allow Biden to get in or we face 12 years of Dem Crap
          Hillary is already starting her run for 2016

          Call or write your Repub people and tell them to get off there asses or Get a new job and MEAN IT

          Obama’s Skittle Shitting Unicorn

          • “The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance.” – Cicero , 55 BC

            It appears we’ve learned nothing in the past 2,067 years.

          • You do term limits and they will just get jobs as CEOs of big corporations to keep the corporate political fascist state system going in this country. Have to reform corporate and lobbying laws at the same time.

        • Help me out here, when is, “All goes to hell”?

          • It’s going to get alot worse Mac…alot worse.

          • Well, living here in NY the flames are more then tickling my toes here!

            • Maybe upstate NY is salvageable and somewhat defendable, if you organize your neighbors and condemn abandoned property for veg gardens.

        • divide and counquer ,works good for them ill give you 2 recent examples ,alex jones , and james yeager ,in the community ive seen fights that there nut cases ,and they make the gun community look bad ,are shitting me ,point out a time that those on the other side ever said ,gee them gun people are some fine guys ,i think ill bring them home and and let them screw my sister ,wake up they hate us and i dont care if you kiss there hand and call them sir ,they aint never going to except your point of veiw,alex gets wound up ,yea ,but if the shit got ugly i bet he’d have your back ,and as for a yeager goes ,he got pissed ,and then apolagized ,but look at the bigger picture ,because he exercised his 1st amendment right he had his 2nd amendment right punishished ,i think its fine that we dont agree on eveything ,i dont think its ok to break ranks ,just sayin

        • The JBT have been very successful and are full of themselves, but have had no meaningful resistance.

          Bloomturd, Feinswine, & co. are just dumbstruck that anyone would question one of their edicts.

        • NEW YORK STATE- The home of the goddess statue of liberty a lawless symbol of rebellion that brings death by the hands of free masons who work for their most worshipful master, Washington. Allah-god of lawlessness in Hebrew and any other language. New York State where the sodomite governor signed same sax marriage into law by force. The insurgency of pedophile’s sanctioned by IslamICK decrees. ALL against the LAWS OF YHWH GOD of the BIBLE. The deceivableness of RIGHTEOUSNESS is the corruption of that which brings life.

        • Amen

        • Live free or die, there is no other way!

          I will not look my kids in the eye and say that I did nothing to keep their liberty and freedom from being taken from them by these traitorous tyrants.

          All in, better on my watch!

        • yessssssss

        • If Obama gets his way and his bans are passed, I will not comply. Millions more will not comply.

          DHS and other alphabet agencies have recently purchased over 1.8 BILLION rounds of hollow point ammo – enough to shoot every man, woman, and child in the country 5 times or more – ammo that’s illegal for military use under international law, and have just ordered 7,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC “personal defense” weapons. How does anyone with the capability of rational thought escape the conclusion that our government is preparing for a war on its own citizens?

          Feinstein, Schumer, Obama, Holder, Bloomberg, Cuomo, and their whole gang are tyrant wannabes. To them, anyone who does, or might, oppose their control over every aspect of our lives, is “a criminal” because they said so.

          To quote a few of their heroes, with explanatory comments in ( ):

          “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” – Mao
          (They revere Mao and the way he ruthlessly grabbed power in China. The fact that he murdered about 100 million Chinese to do it is, to them, a “feature,” not a “bug.”)

          “If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves. … The only real power comes out of a long rifle. … Everyone imposes his own system as far as his army can reach. … We don’t let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns? … The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.” — Joseph Stalin

          “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.” — Adolf Hitler
          (These psychopathic sociopaths in our government – and THEY ARE PRECISELY THAT, never make the mistake of doubting it – believe that they are anointed to be our rulers and that we are the equivalent of Hitler’s “subject races.” And we know what they did to “them.”)
          Don’t tell me, “It can’t happen here in America.” To borrow a quote from Mike Vanderboegh,
          “Anyone who tells you that ‘It Can’t Happen Here’ is whistling past the graveyard of history. There is no ‘house rule’ that bars tyranny coming to America. History is replete with republics whose people grew complacent and descended into imperial butchery and chaos.”
          Hitler disarmed the Jews and others, then murdered millions
          Stalin disarmed the Russians, them murdered millions
          Mao disarmed the Chinese peasants, then murdered nearly 100 million.
          The Turks disarmed the Armenians, then murdered 1.5-2 million.
          Pol Pot disarmed the Cambodians and murdered millions.
          Rwanda disarmed its ethnic groups, then murdered millions.
          The list goes on … about 262 MILLION people murdered BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTS in the 20th century – AFTER they allowed those governments disarmed them. See: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
          They ALL thought “It can’t happen here” – until they were disarmed and it started, then it was too late. Don’t make the same mistake. Don’t EVER let your government disarm you.

          The Founders knew that government, if not constrained at every step, will continue to accumulate power and control until it becomes tyranny. That’s why they feared standing armies and insisted that the “right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
          “A tyrannical rule cannot in any reasonable construction be accounted lawful, and therefore the disturbance of such a government cannot be esteemed seditious, much less traitorous.” – Thomas Aquinas
          When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance becomes Duty – Thomas Jefferson
          Take the pledge:

      2. Myself, and my loved ones will not be lead to our deaths like sheep. End of story.

        • I don’t see myself ever standing in a line, waiting to be shot, after digging my own grave.

          • If I’m going to die, SOMEBODY ELSE is going to have to dig my grave. While I can’t run recon or do night ops, I CAN fight…

            I can reload.
            I can patch people up.
            I can hit what I’m aiming at.
            I can build mechanical things.
            I know how to handle chemicals.
            I can rewire electronic things.
            I can cook and clean.
            I can monitor a radio and dispatch.
            I am a planner and strategist.
            I don’t miss the details.
            I pick up on languages very easily.
            I can learn just about anything…quickly.
            I DO NOT HAVE PANIC ATTACKS, I keep my head clear.

            Although I can’t walk into battle, I can deal with it when the battle comes to me. I AM the Patriot they’ll never see coming. Expect me to be there when the time comes, just not out on the front lines.

            • six…don’t die yet for christ sakes! You got way to much to offer. We need you!

              Many of us don’t give a damn about what we have to do to get our kids and grandkids to the other side.

              When that is accomplished, we’ll drink a beer or 2 and die years later of old age.

              That is my/our/your story and we’ll stick to it…united.

              • I don’t have any plans to die yet — but I’m ready if I have to. I can sincerely close my eyes forever without regrets. I plan on keeping it that way.

                • I can no longer run into battle, but I can walk briskly with a slight limp!!!

              • Hey Sixpack.
                A few months back I get all my stuff together and manage to fit it all on a chest rig and what goes with it.
                I eased into the rig and and stood there thinking, WTF? I can’t carry all this. Pouches started dropping off till I found a workable load.

                You’re going to do alright, partner.;0)


          • Very few people do, but it has happened millions of times throughout history.

      3. My.. elections really DO have consequences.. don’t they ?

        • yeah, when they actually ARE elections….we only get prearranged APPOINTMENTS.

      4. The fix is beyond the ballot box. Semper Fi. III.

        All those who wish to deny our liberties as well as those who wish to inforce for them the unconstitutional attacks on law abiding citizens shall one day find no refuge. At some point, we will have to physically remove them from federal, state and local levels. Those found guilty WILL be held accountable. They have families also. None will be safe. Better pick your side and make your committment because things will move very fast. They will try to make examples of many and those of us in the area who can and will come to the assistance of defiant patriots must do so even at risk of your life. They will soon come for you as well. We must deny them any future WACOs or Ruby Ridge events. We must make them by any means neccesary think twice of their actions. That they may also suffer great loss. There are some who regardless must to be held accountable for already committed treasonous/tyranical actions against american citizens. It is not the thungs who I’m concerned about but the 50+ LEO drons that’ll be busting through my door at zero dark thirty, btw, a term already used back in early 80’s, shooting my dogs, and pointing loaded “ASSAULT RIFLES” at 3 children under 9yrs old and probly tazing at best my wife who doesnt speak well english. Yes, I’ve made my choices and if the wrong thing happens it wont be a good day for many. When you know they have plans to take you out regardless, you best make plans to take as many with you.

        And what is really screwed up, I didn’t think like this 3 yrs ago.

        God Bless America.

        • ARE you reading this liberals and anti gun politicians ATF etc. There are 32 people that all agree on this and the people are not kidding. We know what you are doing and it’s not hard to put 2 and 2 together to see you tyranny,theft and straight out bullshit and unconsitutional motives on the people. You better stop this because when bullets start flying you will be responsible for this and after the battle ends you will be held by the people for the deaths of innocent Americans while you let illegals into this country and let american go into shambles. You will be held accountable!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • DAMN.. Praise the Lord Clint

        • @GDawg, “And what is really screwed up, I didn’t think like this 3 yrs ago.” yea, me too. that is screwed up.

      5. I first met David Icke in 1995. Since then I have participated in the robot rebellion. “I am Free, I am Me”. The cabal can do as they wish, their time is over.

      6. America–The Land of Dipshidiots!

        How do you ‘feed’ stupid? Do you grow the food, prepare it, cook it, and then feed it to a helpless Dipshidiot?

        The masses of sheep are being led by wolves, they are without a shepherd. Americans are ‘bummed’ lambs at best. We need the daily help and nuturing by the wolves for survival. Yet, we don’t know the wolves are ‘fattening’ us for that very big day that they have prepared for us. We will soon eat at ‘their’ dinner table.

        Have you seen a Dipshidiot? They are all over America. They follow in masses and question nothing. They expect something and give nothing in return. It is owed to them. They believe anything without questioning what a Chief Wolf may be saying or doing–they trully are Dipshidiots.

        Americans and Patriots, Please Do Not Feed the Dipshidiots!!!! They will always come back and expect more.

        • We’re surrounded by fucktards all day every day.

      7. I will never kneel down, We will not be lead to our deaths like sheep. Period.

        • I will never be institutionalized I think.

      8. It’s not a privlige.
        it’s a God given right.

      9. Civil disobedience, defy these edicts openly and flagrantly. Until which point the power mad scum start killing us. Which would be an attack on all. Which starts 4th generation warfare and the Doctrine of One Hundred Heads. Of course a clampdown would also occur, more “rules” since innocent men and women can’t be ruled so plan on being a “felon”.

        While things may dissolve in bloody civil war in certain areas, with neighborhood going after oath-breakers and their families, etc. It’s best to avoid atrocity, targeting innocents, or a war of attrition. The ruling class elites could care less how many Obots perish for tyranny.

        Planners, enablers, intellectuals, media elites on the other hand value their mortality. Many also value their public life. Most are not willing to make a complete life change after so many years of “service” and go into hiding. No way. So they are quite available for discussion, feedback. Terrify them. Give them a reality adjustment to give them pause. Instill fear and destroy their will to pursue their tyrannical fantasies.

        • I keep wondering, we hear all the time about how “our” government has bought billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition. Well if it’s really “our” government, then that means those are OUR rounds. We should look into taking back what is rightfully ours… after all, “we, the people” paid for all that ammunition 🙂

          • If they sold all those rounds they would have enough money to rebuild the disaster areas and our infrastructure.

          • Yes, can we request them through an FOAA, no not Freedom of Information Act, the Freedom of Ammunition Act!!!!

        • This brings up a point I’ve been alluding to for quite awhile: What to do with media personalities.

          Right now we bitch about their lies and pandering to the politicians but what we really need to do is be more proactive. We need to know where every one of them lives, shops, eats and goes to relax. Bill Clinton relaxed the ROE to include them and we need to take advantage of that change and learn as much about them as we do about the cops on the beat. When the balloon goes up TPTB will need them to promote the new lies. But if they’re not available…?

          • “””But if they’re not available…?”””

            They’ll buy new ones and the sheep will love and trust them just as much.

        • Precision is very important. It’s better that a traitor live another week than innocents dying be blamed on patriots. Of course, the OpFor will slaughter the innocent and blame PatTer’s and local Savage Militia if they can.

          Read 3-24 (Counterinsurgency) to understand 80% of what’s going on.

          It’s propaganda and Public Relations (PR), which is a sliver of truth spun into a web of lies. White gun-owning men are being characterized as sharp-toothed feral monsters like the NAZI’s and Soviets drew enemies of their tyrannical States in the first half of the 20th century.

          This population-manipulation by PR takes time to counter. Fear-Uncertainty-Doubt is a proven sales strategy, no matter if it’s done by MicroSoft or the CIA.


      10. Aw, hell naw. Not this time ’round. I am, unfortunately, one of those people that will put with, put up with, put up with,…..to a point. Then it is on. This 2nd amend deal if they pursue it, will be that point. I will not not budge motherfuckers. Much to the detriment of my health, some things are worth fighting for just as those that have died before us in the service of this once great country.

      11. On the font lines here in NY i submit i will not comply, and from what i am hearing not a single person i know will. Dont count us out just yet. Not one more inch is a good slogan but id venture to say we need to backtract about a foot.

        DieselDan standing by in Ny

        • hey there DD,

          Tell me brother, how can we help our NY state fellow patriots? What can we do to show our support and to help you in your fight against control freak tyranny?

          • whatever it is, the plans will have to be offline.

            • I was thinkin gettin the NYC phone book on line and start callin folks lettin em know they have support from South Carolina if it comes to it.

          • What would Davy do? Modern Davy, that is. Just a fourteen man force with forty pound packs and long rifles.

      12. I will not submitt, I will protect my rights. whatever that may require.

        God help us.

        • It would be nice if God, any God were on our side. But for me and mine Sam Colt and John Browning will do. The Greeks felt that if you died well you got to a little better spot in Hades, that will do well enough for me. molon labe

          • God IS on your side. He gave mankind Sam Colt and John Browning.

            • Gott mit uns.

              • I bet the two thumbs down did not understand German, this says “God is with us” I personally would like God having my back.

          • The Greeks believed, as I understand it, that to die in battle in service of their country was the highest honor one could achieve in their life…I say we follow that model whether it was true or not for them.

        • Holy crap , the man is insane . pick and choose what parts of the Constitution we want to use ? Outdated document ? Why is it that those that claim to be Constitutional Scholars are always trying to do away with it ? Although that video made me sick to my stomach I thank you Charley for pointing it out . Not being a watcher of the mainsteam media , I miss a lot of the madness that is being vomited forth by these idiots

        • Didn’t even watch the video. I don’t have to. But I can tell you this. Just like in 1783, people will remember those traitors who chose to be on the wrong side of the Constitution. What’s happening right now has been planned for a long time. Washington thinks “we the people” will just continue to take it until we finally give up the only means of protection we have. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I don’t know one person who will register, turn in, or sell their guns or magazines because of an unlawful law. We are FED UP and we outnumber them 20 fold. I will NOT go on the offensive but I WILL defend my family as Uncle Sam gave me the training to do so, and I WILL use my training if needed.

      13. I will not submit to these tryants!!! I will not register my guns or pay a tax on what I already bought.
        And if they want them come and f–king get them..

        Not One More Inch,


        • NOT ONE MORE INCH!!!I hope they remember that THEY STARTED IT!!

          • Warface,

            Yes sir they did, I just think they know what kind a can of worms they opened.


            • I don’t think they have any idea what they have done. A fatted calf doesn’t have any idea how a lion thinks. These people have been sheltered from reality all their lives. No one ever told them NO and meant it. They are like the people from DC that went out to see the first battle of the Civil War, thinking it would be fun, when the shells started coming towards them they ran. If gun owners really resist, it will be a nightmare like they have never conceived. That’s why we are afraid and they are not, I am afraid, I know what we can do,it’s awful

              • The fatted calf knows the lion intends to harm it, and that’s all it needs to know to try and defend it’s own life by any means it has…We are just the same, only the lions are trying to hog tie us before the kill…

              • I wish to respectfully disagree. They DO know what they have done, and I don’t believe we outnumber them. We may, I am not sure. However, the government knows that our soldiers would have a difficult time firing on their own countrymen which is why we have foreign soldiers–Russian, German, etc– in the U.S. numbering in the hundreds of thousands. No, the government does know what it is doing. It is banking on foreign soldiers, gangs, drug cartels and the 50 percent idiot population of this country to do its dirty work.

            • They know exactly what they are doing.

              • They have a plan… no doubt in my mind. It’s called martial law.

        • @ DPS…

          Copy that brother!

          FYI…just reviewed an article where DHS is requesting(ordering/paying with taxpayer monies)…an additional +7000 select-fire M-16s(likely M-4 version).

          The sheep will ask:…”why do you need such fire-power, Janet?”

          …the knowledgeable here will respond:…”cuz we will NOT enter the boxcars willingly and y’all best look into close air support procurement, while your at it!”

          …never surrender!

          • Gunsmith,

            Yes sir I read that, I finally got this laptop up and running so I can have in the shop close to the reloading bench.
            As for some intel in the panhandle, ammo is starting to be restocked, however ar15 prices are still climbing. Lots of folks got wind of the NY problem and it ain’t sitting well. Reloading supplies still in bad shape, I urge ppl all over the country to hit these reloading stores and pick up small pistol and rifle primers as well a couple pounds of powder. Even if you don’t reload it not only may help the cause it can also be traded if need be.
            Now for these idiots wanting us to submit, I stand before them with my finger held high (NOT ONE MORE INCH,COME AND TAKE IT YOU SOB)


            PS They better have budweiser in NY

            • I got the lead, but no molds.

              • I got a brand new pair of roller skates, you got a brand new key..we need a plan to get together and make them both work as a team

                • I’m in Oregon, at the foot of Mt. Hood.

              • sixpack,

                Hangon to that lead, I got the other covered 🙂


                • You got it, DPS.

          • It’s nice of the Fed’s to get some weapons we are familiar with, with the 3-position selector just like we trained with.

            Do think they will get to keep them?

            • I would hope that they and that ammo would get harvested quickly. Tyrants tend to do bad things with toys like that. Someone will need to tell them playtime is over and give them a time out.

      14. I took my oath, over 40 years ago, To uphold and defend the Constitution… I still abide by that oath.

        I have thought, and prayed, over just this very subject.
        My favorite quote is “When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty”-Thomas Jefferson.

        I will do my duty. If need be, I will die a free man.

        • I hope I have the courage to stand with you. No one really know till the die is cast.

          • Surrender is not in our creed.
            Failure is not an option.

      15. If not me, who?
        If not now, when?

        What a sad, scary, unbelievable time to be alive! But if I don’t hold the line, my kids and grandkids will well and truly be slaves. And that is unconscionable.

        • You.
          Pretty Soon, now.
          The kids and G-kids might get some and give some, too.

      16. This has been a very difficult question on my mind for some time now. It seems like an easy answer, of course I would go down fighting, REALLY? With a family, do I really take up arms against the U.S. government? I doubt I can honestly make that decision at this time. What I will do at this time is not register a damn thing more then what I already have. I will help the NRA, and any others who ask for my help, write the letters, all that stuff.

        But what will I do if nothing less someone’s death is required to keep my guns?

        That decision will depend on so many factors. I will have to find others like me who are indeed willing to stand and fall together. Can there be enough of us to fight a successful war, even small localized battles?. I want to believe so. If a rag tag group of fighters show up to recruit me, will I join them? If I can believe in them, if they seem to have a plan, yes I would want to do my part. How will a person know when is the right time?

        I just can not imagine how things will go down. Perhaps I am foolish, but I still want to believe TPTB will have to back down on this.

        • Amen, we all have lots to lose, i imagine the patriots in the late 1700s were faced with a similar dilemma, many of their homes and families were destroyed, i suppose we need to keep this in mind when thinking not only of our own survival but the survival of the republic. The sacrifices of the past should not be made in vain.

          • Our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

        • Finally, someone asking the really tough questions that must be addressed before any shots are fired. Any patriot who is also a family member and provider must take pause and think about this. It’s easy to talk a little shit online, but the scope and magnitude of what is really being posited is not simple, if it was, the coup would have happened already…

          Pay attention everyone, the fan is at max and the bucket has tipped past the point of returning upright…

          • You don’t get it, were fighting for our lives here. I too have lots to loose and don’t anticipate an early demise.But we don’t have a choice. Kindness and submissiveness will be taken as a sign of weakness. Its put up or shut up. Amen brother were all in this together.

        • ~~~REALLY? With a family, do I really take up arms against the U.S. government?~~~

          The alternatives are not any better.

          We all will die–question is will it be on our terms or in a fema camp or worse??

        • I want to believe that, too. They have plenty to lose, like us.

          What if they don’t / won’t / can’t back down? Give a few years and the Red Chinese Army will have transport (bases?) to the West Coast to secure their future wives. The WA-DC gov may be in a vise that they can’t wiggle out of by then.

      17. —Veteran…& by extension Mr. Peters—
        ***(copied/pasted from previous thread & modified a bit)***


        Will I or most here…submit & obey????

        Nope!!! Don’t even go there!!!


        The most logical script play-out, per this tyrannical gun-grab/liberty killing scenario…is one where the regime provokes us!
        And I honestly believe that is the next scene…soon to unfold…amid a media frenzy!

        I’ll bet the farm I own, on the likely fact that +98% of the posters here are in lock-n-load mode, even as I type this post! The folks at this site…are for F**king real and there are untold millions across this country, who are of our ilk/mindset! Never doubt.


        Yes, we will grant the enemy first blood (I sincerely hope they by-pass all good posters here).
        But after that, its GAME ON!

        Yes! Many will adhere to a hunker-down/dig in & slug it out…defensive strategy, per protection of their wives, progeny, property & GOD given Rights.

        I am not disparaging their reasoning/logic…as they are my brothers/sisters…in the coming fight and they alone know/understand their position.

        But at some point, if the worst happens…you will see Civil War II/Revolution 2.0…where we all, will become offensively orientated!

        Early on, others with more room to maneuver…will carry the fight to the enemy…again never doubt!

        Those who initially elect to remain in the rear echelon defending kith & kin……KNOW THIS:…you are honor bound to support, those of us who are committed to restoring the Republic, or separating from its current form…so help you GOD!!!



        …and yes, not ONE F**KING INCH MORE, either!


        WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!! The enemy has the initial advantage in most combatant realms.

        But they lack the ‘HEART’…for they are allied w/ Satan & his minion’s hatred towards GOD & those of us who love/defend/honor HIM!!!

        …thus surrender is NOT an OPTION!


        That said…

        …but if we should fail(unlikely) in our struggle…let history give testimony that at least…..

        WE WERE NOT……COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!

        • This is where my head is at, i may be dead, but they will NEVER take control of me,

          • Stout heart Kulafarmer!

            If it comes to pass…aim small, miss small.


      18. Fuck no is the answer to this question. Let’s kill our would be masters instead.

      19. Our Deadliest Enemies

        1. All current and former police officers. That’s to include anyone who works for any law enforcement agency as an employee or a sub-contractor regardless of the nature of his job (data entry, secretary, janitor, records clerk). This category could also include certain military personnel as American law enforcement continues to become more heavily militarized.

        Yes, we’ve all heard about the Oathkeepers and County Sheriffs around the country who have said that they will defy any new federal gun bans. Ladies and Gentlemen, the war we are in cannot be won by assuming a defensive posture. The enemy is going to have to be defeated on the battlefield and I seriously doubt if the Oathkeepers and the various County Sheriffs in America are willing to take it to that level. Even if the current assault on gun rights blows over, it will reappear next year, two or three years from now, or six or seven years from now. The confrontation cannot be avoided. When you add to that the fact that because of the racial demographics, i.e., the coming amnesty for many millions of non-white illegal aliens and an exploding non-white population generally, there will never again be a U. S. President who shares the same heritage as the founders of this nation. That means that we are looking at a protracted period of racial civil guerrilla warfare. We need to dwell on that fact good and hard—and start preparing for it. There is nothing more important at this time than amassing very large quantities of military-style firearms, 2 or 3 sets of extra factory parts for those firearms, high-capacity magazines, and ammunition.

        We can also expect at some point in the not-too-distant future an effort at the federal level to enact draconian “hate speech” laws like they have in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. In those countries people can and are being jailed for condemning faggotry, race-mixing, transexualism, for condemning various human groups (except Whites), and for questioning certain historical issues.

        There is speculation on other websites about whether contact between the resistance fighters and law enforcement officers will be defensive only.

        2. Any U. S. or foreign military personnel deployed among the civilian population for “crowd control”, or to control “civil unrest”. Includes National Guard, Reserves, or active duty troops. Excluded from this group would be these same personnel deployed into black areas to stop flash mobs or other black problems. But if they are deployed into White areas they must be considered enemy combatants.

        3. Anyone who works hand and glove with any law enforcement agency, like firemen who are notorious for stealing useable (or saleable) items from burned out structures, LE psychological profilers, and all lower level employees working in those offices. I understand that firemen are also told to be on the lookout for any firearms-related items— including ammo—when going into residences to check for fires.

        4. Anyone who works in the judiciary, from the local county clerk up to the U. S. Supreme Court Justices. Includes all employees in those offices.

        5. Anyone who receives his income from taxpayer funds. That includes public school teachers. These teachers are becoming transformed into spies for law enforcement as they are, or shortly will be, questioning their students (your children) about certain conditions in their homes—questions like:

        a. ‘Do your parents own any guns?, How many?, What do they look like?, Where do they keep them?’

        b. ‘How do your parents feel about the current set of social, racial, and political trends?’ (that is: ‘How do your parents feel about gun control, queer “marriage”, racial mixing producing mongrel offspring, transsexual operations, and massive non-white immigration into the USA and other Whitelands?’)

        We need to understand that our child’s athletic coaches, scoutmasters, and all extra curricular activity instructors, will be used for the same purpose.

        6. Any elected political figure and all of this politician’s employees. In the end they’re loyal to their paychecks.

        7. Journalists: includes local and national anti-gun, anti-white print media and broadcast journalists, television news anchors, radio and television talk show hosts, local, regional or national.

        8. Family doctors and any employees working in their offices. Some of you may have read about the talk of having one’s family doctor question his patients about ‘guns in the home’.

        What To Do About These Enemies

        1. If you have any friends or acquaintances who fit any of the above occupational profiles, disassociate yourself from them as soon as you can. You may have to do this slowly over time, perhaps even moving from your current place of residence at some future point. Do not trust them and never discuss firearms, politics, or social trends in their presence—doing so may get you branded as an “extremist” or “domestic terrorist”. Do not attend any social functions with them—like at that backyard BBQ they may have every summer. You are henceforth restricting your circle of friends to those who think exactly like you do.

        2. Do not ever let these people be alone with your children. These people will be acting as spies on their jobs and also with their friends and neighbors.

        3. Do not permit your child’s schoolteachers into your home. They will be spying for LE? Always meet your children’s teachers at the school or elsewhere.

        • @Steve says,

          Regarding #2 and military personnel, please see my comment below once it goes through moderation.

          • During the ANARCHY of Pol Pot, he and his militants killed all the police then turned around and began killing millions of innocent civilians. Many soldiers were sent into the war zones of Cambodia, but very few ever returned.

        • Excellent advice Steve and a very timely post.

          Thumbs up to you!

        • So if you exclude all those people from your allies, who is left? Your dead wrong on your assumptions. My whole group is made up of the people you are demonizing. We will fight!

        • @ steve

          I am a schoolteacher, and I can guarantee that one line I will NEVER cross is asking my students whether there are guns at home….. even though in the back of my mind, I am saying “man, I sure hope they do!”

          My students are my students in class… how their parents raise them or what church they attend or whether they have guns is none of my business.

          TPTB can fire me over this at some point, but I won’t budge on this….. I’m a free man, not a rat or a stool pigeon

        • You Jackass! My son is a schoolteacher. World History. He tries every single day to enlighten a bunch of brain-dead zombies as to what is about to happen. I strongly suggest that you revise your target list or we will soon be shooting at each other. You can’t go around making broad accusations. Just because someone works for a government entity dosen’t mean that they agree with them. You might even find that in a tight,they would back you better than your “buddies”. Where do you get thie crazy shit from, anyway?

      20. Shoot, shovel, shut up. I will kill any intruder, bury them, and forget their rotten corpses as they pass from this realm into hell. It’s where our would be masters need to be sent also.

        • -FP’d-

          I have no problem per your S-3 solution.

          But remember this…bury them in the buff(naked) and sans their head/hands & feet.
          Once separated, employ a hatchet to bust out all teeth, remove them and scatter over a wide area, far from your property. You must remove any & all dental record tractability.
          Toss the removed remains where wild animals can feast.

          Next, toss all their clothing, wallet and personal stuff into the microwave and cook on high for at least 3 minutes…as they may have govt-RFID tags imbedded somewhere. Then burn via fire…again off property.

          I apologize for being so morbid, but the object is for YOU & YOURS to survive!

          Screw the enemy and their poor choice of loyalty!

          • Yep. Industrial woodchipper and hogs

      21. I apologize….I never even read the article, I saw the headline and my answer is FUCK NO!! I am an American citizen, raised on the Constitution and I will not be ruled by people who think I should surrender my weapons and think being queer is ok. Come and get me if you must but do me a favor and show up ready to fight. Don’t knock on my door with a smile on your face and take me by suprise. I will make it expensive for you to come and get me….better send your best….MOLON LABE!

        • Mac, I hope you don’t mind that I copied the picture of Diane Fuckensteen to put in my garage to keep the mice out.

          • To keep the dogs out too.

          • I used it as a splash guard in the urinal.

            • Priceless!!!

              • Don’t eat the white mints…

          • yeah, but it might attract RATS!

          • printed it on toilet paper.

          • Anybody here read or know David Icke??
            Look at that creature Feinstink’s eyes. Empty??

      22. Bravo Eric,

        Well stated Brother! At this time all must begin to CLEARLY sort out – within thier own minds – where this will soon go….and what may be required of them subsequently. “Think Thrice….Act once.” like the old carpenter’s adage to measure twice, cut once. Dwell on what is near at hand in the silences of your own thoughts, to clarify what your part’s will be. Some will must needs remain behind to be sentinel’s over that which is most precious…no dishonor accrues to those who are so compelled…but others will go onward and as they do you will not only need to guard your’s, but thier’s as well whilst what is needful is done…into YOUR keeping will be placed the most precious of all things to us….rememeber this without fail. We will return.

        A NEW Dawn is soon at hand, no more suffering under fools and evil men or thier perpetuity…PREPARE.

        • carpenter;’s apprentice adage “I cut this board three times and it’s still too short”!

      23. Not as much 1861 but more like 1770’s. Intent and action to confiscation powder, shot & muskets by the King…excess taxation…most without representation.

        Let us all hope it stays peaceful and the libs & fruits back have a “bi-partisan” understanding.

        It isn’t the AR-15’s to worry about. It is the AR-2…. American Revolution II.

        What is next?…banning BEER ? no f’n way !

        • SORRY…that is “libs & fruits back off and have a ..” Been cutting firewood today from all the downed trees. Chainsaw numb fingers..

        • If they ban beer then I’m going out in a bleary-eyed blaze of glory!

          I’m with 9mm…I will fight if pushed into a corner but what do I do with my wife and 8 year daughter?

          • Yep! Banning beer would kick start AR-2.

          • tuck them safely away with all the provisions you can.

          • Train them, this will require “all hands”. Just like Russia did in WW2.

          • “I will fight if pushed into a corner but what do I do with my wife and 8 year daughter?”

            Teach ’em to shoot?

          • Wife and daughter are support staff. Raise chickens, plot routes, comm, run field hospital, purify water, garden, etc. Be lethal as hell, too.

      24. Death to traitors

        • Směrt Špionam

      25. I’d rather die on my feet, fighting for my life than die on my knees, begging for my life.

        I will NEVER register my gun.

      26. I see her face and I CRINGE inside !!! knowing she is pulling strings in OUR COUNTRY !

        • I think it’s time for a partition of USA. I am tired of Cali being able to foist the likes of Fienswine, Pukosi, and Barbra Bitchter on the rest of us.

        • geo, you wanna cringe? think on this…someone has had SEX with that hag. barrrrfffff… I’m gonna go gargle with peroxide now

          • The more you drink, the better she looks. Sorry, I just can’t drink that much! Waaaaay past my limit.

        • She is not pulling the strings. She is doing as she is told, like ALL of the politicians. The string pullers you never get to see, that is how they stay being a string puller!!

      27. “Do not go gentle into that good night.
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”

        Dylan Thomas

        I won’t be going gentle. Not one more inch.

      28. I do not like what my gut is telling me, but I must say it anyway.

        I think a WHOLE LOT of those “mouths” that cry “from my cold dead fingers” rant will be the first to cave in.

        Cowards Die Many Times,
        The Valiant Taste of Death But Once!

        I for one will go out STANDING and FREE.

        Here is why I will go out STANDING, because MY FAMILY and I HAVE EVERYTHING TO LOSE, THAT BEING OUR FREEDOM’S, they are so precious to our very being, they are what makes us AN AMERICAN.

        So many men and women have fought and died to make OTHER’S FREE and OUR GOVERNMENT send them to fight, (I know I was one of them), now this bunch of TRAITOR’S want to take what few remaining FREEDOMS away from US. I for one will not have that. If need be DEATH to the TYRANT’S.


        Pale Rider

        • Our freedoms are what make us HUMAN.

      29. I am not afraid to die a freeman.

      30. John Smith started the day early

        having set his alarm clock

        (MADE IN JAPAN )

        for 6 am .. While his coffeepot

        (MADE IN CHINA)

        was perking, he shaved with his electric razor


        He put on a dress shirt

        (MADE IN SRI LANKA),

        designer jeans


        and tennis shoes

        (MADE IN KOREA)

        After cooking his breakfast in

        his new electric skillet

        (MADE IN INDIA)

        he sat down with his calculator

        (MADE IN MEXICO)

        to see how much he could spend today.

        After setting his watch

        (MADE IN TAIWAN )

        to the radio

        (MADE IN INDIA )

        he got in his car

        (MADE IN GERMANY )

        filled it with GAS

        (from Saudi Arabia )

        and continued his search for a

        good paying AMERICAN JOB.

        At the end of yet another discouraging

        and fruitless day checking his


        ( made in MALAYSIA ),

        John decided to relax for a while.

        He put on his sandals

        (MADE IN BRAZIL ),

        poured himself a glass of wine

        (MADE IN FRANCE )

        and turned on his TV


        and then wondered why he can’t find a

        good paying job in AMERICA


        (cough, cough,) KENYA

        • That is very poignant, well said.

        • Chainsaw,

          WELL DONE!!!!!!!

      31. Just following the rules, preppin’ and waiting to hear of the first blogosphere-confirmed drone strike on ANY Americans here in CONUS, Hawaii or Alaska…..

        • remember, they may flip the internet switch just before the first strike. They routinely block cell signals and disable phones before other sieges.

          • I don’t think they have a switch. What do you know about that?

            • They DO have a switch. There is executive paper trail defining it already. Obummer recently gave himself the power to use it for “national security”. They have been routing all internet through digital choke points since just BEFORE 9/11. For more technical info go to eff dot org and do a site search. Electronic Frontier Foundation has been battling it for some time.

      32. Rule #1: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

        These people are attempting to take God’s place. No religion is allowed in Communism b/c the State becomes God. I will not bow to them, regardless of which stage of their plan I find myself living in. The Founders said, “No king but King Jesus”. That’s the spiritual side of things.

        On the personal side, I will defend my family against those who would do me harm whether it is a thug off the streets or an elected official who believes they know what’s best for me.

        The question is once again asked: Do you run, fight, or submit?

        I see only two of those as options. I will maintain hope that I will never have to make the choice, but I will continue to prepare for the possibility of either at any moment.

        Esse Quam Videri
        “To Be, Rather Than Appear”

      33. To be honest as we all know this matter has been a process of conditioning. It has been happening for many years and I think it really turned for the worse right after WW2 when the media began to convince us we needed to have all the latest gadets with all the extra money there was to spend. This was all done by design and now people are beginning to wake up to the fact that we are losing our freedoms. We have lost these freedoms long ago but were to busy buying useless crap we were convinced we needed. My question is really how many are willing to fight and even die for our freedoms. We will find out soon enough because it will not take much to set this on fire. I guess it comes down to if we want to die free or live as slaves in a cage without bars. Or possibly one with bars such as a FEMA camp. Oh thats right Glenn Beck says they don’t exist.

        • Good observation, on WW2. WW3 began on VJ+1, the internal assault on Western Civilization, and the assault on the mind. We are about to see the end result of that assault.

      34. Each day I am amazed at the degradation of America and the world. I continue to gradually gather what I believe will be needed but I can’t help thinking I’m not acting fast enough. I to am dumbfounded at the direction of our country. I am also dumbfounded that it seems more likely each day that revolution is possible. I would like to think I’m ready but who can truly be “ready” to uproot their government? That said I also believe this is a put up or shut up situation. I have contacted my congressman, I have conversed with my community and I have taken steps to prepare. I DO NOT want to fight, but I know how and I won’t wait to get hit in the face to start. “Come and Take It!”

        • time to get out of the pan, were starting to boil.

      35. They want two types of people, rulers and slaves. Well, I’m a ruler, because I rule my own life. I do not call some political shill to ask them what should I wear today, should I shave, should I brush my teeth. What should I eat, should I not eat.
        All the shit they keep throwing at us is to provoke us. Do they really think they can control F.U.B.A.R. Revolution?
        You can plan and plan, but from experience, the plans look good on paper, but it never goes the way it has been written out. There will always be kinks in a well laid plan.

        Everyone has to look and realize what life will or will not be, if we continue down this road of being ruled by draconian society.

        Will you be a kink or will you just bow your head an let yourself be herded like all good little sheep??

        B Aware, B Awake, B Alive, and above all else, B Free!

        • These “laws” certainly are draconian or “unusually severe”, but I’d like to propose another term — “Machiavellian”.

          While draconian is severe for the sake of severe, Machiavellian means more closely “to meet one’s own ends, by whatever means necessary, even at the expense of others”.

          A Machiavellian has no regard for the plight of anyone else and their actions are justified because it meets their desires. In other words, if millions must die horribly for their wants to be achieved, so be it. Their needs must be met, whatever the consequences.

          This to me, sounds more like what is at play here.

          • Knowing exactly the mindset of the enemy is the key to anticipating their next move, along with assessing their strengths and weaknesses accurately.

      36. “Will you submit & obey?” — Maybe, do I get a spanking?

        • Bad Girl,

          I am so leaving that alone…LOL


        • Depends. Are you a mexican?

        • There is only one punishment here at Castle Anthrax….

          • A good spanking!

      37. Time to make final preparations.

        Go a little heavier on the credit cards if needed to get any last items that will help survive / fight…

        Pick up some handheld HAM Radios for cheap on Amazon. Fuck the license if it all goes down. Those things will be worth their weight in gold.

        Encourage friends and family in other parts of the country to do the same. Stay in constant communication with all like minded friends and family. We need to keep everyone up to speed with what is going on.

        I’ve also asked all my “non gun” friends and family members to grab ammo each time they go to Walmart and I’ll pay them. A good way to pick up some last minute ordinance.

      38. This past Thursday I had communication with an active duty US military officer. When questioned about the rumors that current military officers are being asked if they will shoot US civilians (SEE SHTF Jan. 22) this officer acknowledged that it is being talked about but they have seen nothing in writing. When questioned further the reply was that, “I took an oath to defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic.” Then and there I saw the reality of the situation. The criteria, definition if you will, of what an enemy is has been changed. Now I am the enemy. Now I fit the definition of a domestic terrorist, like the information that came out of Missouri several months ago, or the DHS. Then and there I faced the reality that this will be somewhat like 1861 brother against brother, father against son, cousin against cousin, etc. In my case it will be me against my nephew. For all of you who go on autopilot and just sing the praises of the US military, and support the troops, etc., you might want to rethink this blind praise of the military. My dad, his grandfather, would absolutely die of a broken heart if he were alive to hear about this. It makes me sick to my stomach to think it has come to this. There are many ironies here. But the biggest irony to my story is that my nephew’s wife is a military lawyer who, during her deployment, spent time with the commanders of our special ops forces determining if their missions against the enemy were, “LEGAL”. And now the discussion is about shooting US civilians???? I’ll see if this comment earns me a visit from the goons. Those of you with service personnel in the family, or your circle of friends, you might want to start asking questions, like, “What will you do if ordered to shoot US civilians?”

        Just came in from the garage where I cleaned and serviced four weapons. Two more to be cleaned and serviced tomorrow. Standing by.

        • I meant to say defend the Constitution, not country, my bad.

        • 230 JHP,

          officers may say yes, but NCO (Non Commissioned Officer) says differently. Some grunts will follow, but those that can see the truth of what they (TPTB) are trying to do will not obey.
          They can change the definition all they want, but those awake know.

          B Aware, B Awake, B Alive, and above all else, B free!

        • The answer to the question is “I will follow the lawful orders of the commanders placed above me”.

          When the order is given, use the weapon correctly according to the Oath.

        • Thats why Obama wants to get HIS generals control of the military. Watch ur six.

        • If he understands he realizes he too his oath to the Constitution, not to Obama.
          They also used to be taught that they were not to obey illegal/unconstitutional orders. Is that still in the UCMJ or has that been purged?
          We hung a bunch of Germans for whom the “I was just following orders” defense didn’t work so well. I suspect in the future we’ll be hanging some “Americans” (and probably some UN troops) for the same basic reasons.
          I’ve talked to a lot of troops and haven’t found a single one that would follow orders for wholesale confiscations and fire on citizens who refused. I’m sure some will, but hopefully they’ll be in the minority.

      39. Just had discussion about this with my mom, im 49, shes 80, we live on a nice big farm, im a comercial grower, i built both homes myself, but … The hawaii state legislature is proposing a bill that will require me to register each firearm yearly, for a fee no less, have to take a class every 2 years, have my home inspected, plus ensure my girl friend is also certified or need to yearly certify she cannot access my guns, Not only this if you dont comply your labled a felon and the will confiscate your weapons.
        Why? Should i have to do any of this? I explained where i was at with this, even she at 80 gets that this is total bullshit and doesnt blame me if i decide to turn their no knock raid on me after my grace period expires into one big gunfight. Obviously this sucks that this is even a topic, but why ? Why? Should i submit to this? This is an infringement plain and simple,

        • I wish i could give you 1000 thumbs up Kulafarmer!!

        • My mom is 82 and she totally gets it also but then she’s never trusted the gubmint.

      40. Ok it seems we all can talk the talk , but how do we all walk the walk together if SHTF.

        • Good question, we need organization, we need leaders.

          • Leaders can be found among the least likely, follow your heart, stand behind what you believe, and know that even when you feel like you are alone, there are many that feel the same way as you do.

            Trying times are abound!

            B Aware, B Awake, B Alive, and above all esle, B Free!

          • we also need to take action. today…. not tomorrow or next week. It doesn’t have to be big to start, but something that will hurt the enemy

          • Leaders?

            How many leaders does it take to pull the trigger?

            We don’t need no stinkin leaders! Chaos, baby! If we don’t know what we’re doing, they will never figure it out either. Keep an eye out for gold bars and have fun!

          • Leaders can be (and will be) assassinated. Leaderless groups of one or two (no more than three) are almost impossible to stamp out.

            • Oldfart: And it will likely begin with small, loose groups targeting one or two police officer or a squad of military. A false report of some kind of disturbance will come in and these officers and military personnel will assasinated and then they will have their weapons and gear taken, along with any possible intel and comm. The insurgency will grow from these little incursions. It will be doubley hard because since we are all Americans, the insurgents can hide in plain sight until they set up the next little hasty ambush. It will be a war of attrition and it will be ugly. I truly hope I’m wrong and that it will never come to this-brother agaisnt brother conflict.

              • With respect…if it comes to that those SOBs aint my brothers,just sayin.

          • No “leaders”. They attract drone strikes.

          • One problem with leaders is that they can be eliminated in decapitation raids. Then things go to hell.
            Distributed and decentralized is the now paradigm.
            Quiet lone wolves scare the crap out of them because they never see them coming.

      41. If things get nasty and dirty the Main Stream Media should be held accountable for their part in this travesty being foisted upon the American people. I’ve been asked by several factions of the Republican Party to make a donation lately…(my response below).

        As a moral conservative first and foremost, the Republican candidate has historically gotten my vote even though I consider myself an independent.

        Why do they get my vote most of the time?
        1). They are on the right side of the Abortion issue (at least with their mouth).
        Anyone who justifies killing a baby in the mother’s womb can not be counted on to look after your best interests either when it does not serve their purpose. Obama wants to know if his military leaders will fire on American citizens. If they support killing babies in the womb, they will support killing you too when the time comes.
        2). They have been on the right side of the Sodomy Rights issue (even though Newt Gingrich is now saying the Republican Party should back Gay Marriage)
        We are all born sinners thanks to Adam. It is one thing to be a sinner, and quite another thing to tell sinners there is nothing wrong with their sin. Anyone who gives hearty approval to those who practice sodomy cannot be trusted to lookout after your best interests. I think this should be evident with the things now taking place in this nation.
        3). They have been on the right side of the 2nd Amendment issue (lets hope they remain on the right side.)
        The 2nd Amendment is as much or more of what being an American is than any other issue. In my opinion anyone who messes with the 2nd Amendment is a domestic enemy of the United States regardless of what office they hold. It should be all of our opinion. If guns are outlawed by these criminals, I’ll not be an outlaw. I’ll still be a true American that still values the 2nd Amendment rights we hold. Should they be successful in incarcerating me for doing nothing more than maintaining my 2nd Amendment rights and exercising my freedom of speech to encourage others to do the same, I’ll be a political prisoner NOT a criminal one.

        For these three issues Republicans have historically received my vote. If someone does not fall out on the right side of these issues, I am not interested in hearing about anything else they are standing for. Call that close minded if you wish, but I call it a test of their real character. Should they fail the character test, any other of their ideas, no matter how lofty sounding, have to be flawed too!

        We need to Fight Smart and continue to Prep Right. The ultra biased Main Stream Media would love to demonize any and all of us to further their wicked agenda of depriving us of the means to defend ourselves. So, hopefully none of us will go off half cocked!

        …now when I have been asked to contribute to any Republican causes lately, (most of them say we need to combat Obama’s second term) I tell them they better figure out how to combat his cheerleaders; the ultra biased Main Stream Media, first. I tell them that if they figure out how to do that, then to call me back and I’ll reconsider making a donation. But, until then I feel like any money donated will be going to a fruitless cause since the Main Stream Media will trivialize and demonize anything they attempt to do.

        The democrats have quite successfully co-opted the Main Stream Media. It is evident in how they mollycoddle their precious leader Obama while ridiculing and demonizing all opposed to him whether they are black (Herman Cain, Allen West) or white (poor doggy had to ride on the roof of the car.)

        It is my hope that we shall collectively start turning our outrage on the Main Stream Media that enables these tyrants like Obama and Feinstein to make progress in their attempts to harm law abiding American citizens by crippling their 2nd Amendment Rights! The Main Stream Media needs to start palpably feeling the ire of all decent and good Americans!

        Time for vespers (FSPR),

        the Wild Goose

      42. Eric Peters, thank you for this article. It’s the best description of “control freaks” I’ve ever seen anywhere. I’m with everyone else here who says NO SUBMISSION TO TYRANNY! I’ve had ancestors who have fought in most of this country’s wars going back to the French and Indian War of colonial days. They first came to these shores in 1607 with Captain John Smith’s group and founded Jamestown. During the Revolution, 4 ancestors served in the militia of Colonel Francis Marion, “The Swamp Fox”, in South Carolina. 2 out of the 4 fell during that war. Other ancestors of mine fell in the War of 1812, Mexican War, Civil War, etc. Numerous ancestors of mine have fought and died so this land could remain free. Since Election Day and Obamanation announced he’s coming after the guns, I break down some nights about the holocaust and pure hell that’s going to be unleashed on this nation. The gun owners of NY state will soon be forced into a nightmare scenario I’m sure none of them ever wanted. The final outcome in that state will tell us exactly what to expect nationwide. We will all be forced into the same scenario. We’ew all being forced into a war none of us wanted. I saw all of this coming back in the 90s with Ruby Ridge and Waco. I can still remember seeing Mt. Carmel in flames on TV; those images come back to haunt me on occasion. I made my decision while watching it right then never to submit to federal tyranny. My wife came here from Communist Cuba in 1967 after what the Castro brothers had done to her homeland and losing half of her family to Castro’s thugs. On our honeymoon she finally broke down and told me about her life under Castro. She told me things that just blew me away and i was crying with her before she finished. She had firsthand experience of living under tyranny. I wish she was alive now to tell her story. We’ve all been given a great many reasons to stand up and say NO to a police state. Some nights i can hear my wife’s voice saying to me, “Baby, please don’t let what happened to Cuba happen to America”. The memory of her and the hell she survived and escaped from is my extra reason to stand up to the scum that run this country. Now we have to fight. There is no other choice. Better to die standing up fighting like a man than to die on your knees whimpering and begging like a coward. preppers, i will fight! I won’t cut and run! MOLON LABE! LIVE FREE OR DIE! Braveheart

      43. This despot that resides in the white house is COUNTING on resistance, then he can declare marshall law and attempt to smash what is left of our liberties. People are beginning to wake up, I see it in the eyes of people I work with, people I go to church with, they are nervous, no doubt, but they are becoming aware, and that is the last thing that marxist muslim in the white house wants. He has prodded us with class warfare, but that is just falling flat, other than the mooches who are leeching off our paychecks, and soon, their gravy train will come to an end. I read in another post on this site that New Yorkers are saying NYET to comrade Cuomo’s disarmament scheme that was jammed through in the middle of the night, didn’t the Nazis do the same thing? I would like to think that this can resolved peacably, however that hope is rapidly diminishing. Will we have to fight?, I fervently hope not, but WILL we fight? Well the only answer to that Mr. Tyrant, try us and find out the hard way! Americans are a people of laws, Americans are now aware that the lawless have hijacked our very way of life, they have stolen the treasury, they have crushed our civil liberties in hitherto unimagined ways, now they will try to disarm us, lots of luck with that one Mr. Tyrant. GOD bless the Free Republic of the United States of America!!!

        • P.S.


        • To me
          Martial law just means they made the first move..and in this case a foolish move.

          • this may be the final move, or a part of it…it is foolish, even if it comes via an act of God or nature.

          • The first move has already been made.

            Not sure when it was, but suspect that it might have been the WTC basement bombing in 1993? Why weren’t mosques/muzzies made persona non grata for trade, visa, and immigration purposes? Because TPTB find Islam “useful”.

            The Borg is assimilating the useful parts and disposing of the rest.

      44. Another stupid, grandstanding article for the sheep that already obey – and have continued to obey for the past several decades – while all their rights and freedoms and liberties were stripped away.

        So you “keep your guns”. Then what? Obey everything else as you have long been doing?

        This is BULLSHIT. You stupid-assed gun owners FINALLY have had enough, right?

        PROVE IT.

        Stope obeying EVERYTHING and be the free men you claim to be.

        Otherwise, you’re all cowards, liars, pussies and punks.

        • and so, what is it that you have been doing about all your loss of liberties, please enlighten us all..

        • The first instinct is to “thumb you down” and move on. However, WE have ALL contributed to the “circumstance” we now live in. WE slept while THEY methodically stripped US of the very rights, freedoms, and liberty that now threaten to demolish this Republic…for good.

          “Stop obeying EVERYTHING and be the free men you claim to be.” This is actually sound and valid advice. Perhaps “others” here should take a hard look in the mirror that “Disgusted” is holding up! YOU may not like the image/truth seen, but at some point you will have to face it or remain impotent to change it. I am as guilty as anyone!

          The “TRUTH” can be ugly and difficult to face. But it certainly “beats” continuing to support and endorse the “path” that has lead US “here”.

          Time to accept full responsibility. Time to implement ALL and ANY MEASURES necessary to correct “past negligence and complicity.”

          Time to “walk-the-walk”. “Disgusted” is an appropriate observation!

          • yental,

            I agree 100% !!!

        • Baiter

      45. “…whatever happens at first, we are certain to triumph at last, even if we had for arms only pitchforks and flintlock muskets, for every bush and haystack will become an ambush and every barn a fortress. The history of nations proves that a gallant and free people, fighting for their independence and firesides, are invincible against even disciplined mercenaries…” — Gen. P.G.T. Beauregard

      46. Warface, I’m with you, plus I had a picture of Feinstein from another article i put on my target at the range today. Of course, nothing was left of the picture when I finished. Braveheart

      47. i felt alone in the fight that is coming upon us. i felt i was takeing a stand by my self and that everyone was giveing in and not careing. i see now that i am not and feel warm that the resistance is strong. i read that the men and woman of N.Y. WHICH i though were a bunch of liberals are not giveing in to the bastard Governor and refuse to give up and give their arms up. my god the goverments have guts to try to take on the arm americans and what we stand for. i am a vet and fought for this country and will not will not give up are give in. if they take me i will end up in one of obama’s fema camps.
        stand tall and stand true. i will stand with you. i will stand with those who stand for freedom and against the goverment who stand against the constitution.

        • I think they picked NY because they thought it would be the easiest to control…they found out their calculations were a bit off…

      48. not one more inch

      49. Not one inch…

      50. The only ones interested in murdering anyone are you pathetic psychopathic drama queens. I know you ant to murder me just for what I said about you idiots.

        • Murder you!? Who would we have to laugh at? With all the depressing news on this site you are our comic relief. Please don’t stop. If I didn’t get to laugh at your posts every day I’d be cryin’ in stead.

        • Joe,

          I hate to burst your bubble bud, but at the price of ammo your not worth even a reload. Beside that we will have to have somebody to clean out shitters


        • JoeinNC….Civilians usually never start a war. It is almost always a Government. Yes, there is paranoia and some fear. But we have history that can testify why fear can be justified. Nearly a billion people have been killed this past 100 years thru Govt actions.

          I don’t hate anyone. I don’t hate my Govt, nor the current President or regime. I want them to succeed if that success benefits Americans and the World. But I have seen otherwise. Words mean nothing, what one does means everything.

          I didnt believe this stuff would happen in our lifetime until about year 2009. I have been dragging my feet as well, sort of hoping it is just paranoia. I am way, way behind on the skills I need for the next lovely future. I just hope you are at least doing some preparing such as storing some home goods.

        • @joeinnc

          only human beings can be murdered. puss filled sacks of shit like you can only be flushed back down the sewer where you belong

        • You sure have a high opinion of yourself.

          Why would anyone bother with a little pissant like you?

          • That was for JoeinNC by the way, in case anyone couldn’t figure that out.




      52. Today a news article quoted Obama as saying gun control advocates shoudl listen to pro-gunners. The same could be said for you gun worshippers. Listen and get your facts straight. The facts on this site are so few and afar between it makes me think you morons are delusional or on drugs. You make me want to sell my gun and ammo to you gullible idiots, knowing I could do so at a nice profit. I don’t because I fear YOU paranoid delusional fuck heads more than an incompetent government.

        • See what I mean? You “fear” a few old individuals with a couple of guns and a few rounds of ammo more than “incompetent government” trained mercenaries with billions of rounds of ammo (and high flying hunter killer drones). Pure comic genius. Keep up the good work. I hadn’t even stopped laughing from your previous post and now I’m about to bust a rib.

        • @ Jo(k)e(r) In NC. NO “joker” in NC, the people within 100 miles or so of you need to be fearful because you are dangerous. You attack people again and again with pure hatred and anger and enjoy it, even people that have tried to be nice to you. You joker are the perfect patsy for the state and a false flag “postal” or just someone that just flips out one day. NOT one person on this site is as enraged as you are, insane is more the word. Someone with similar asinine views could express themselves way differently without the nut like manner. You prevent a lot of people from commenting and sharing what they know to help us all. JOKER IN NC you are incredibly selfish and if you have any part of mind left, you should be ashamed of yourself.

          I warned you JOKER in NC about calling the good people here all sorts of names, most people that have never even commented or said anything to you. I was going to try to call you Joe, but it is apparent you want to be the JOKER In NC. You know JOKER you are one of the reasons why some people are not completely 2nd Amendment, because of your hateful irrational raw anger and your firearms makes for a bad brew. Get some help Joker in NC before it is too late.

        • Dipshidiot

        • JoeinNC, you must live or go to school in Chapel Hill, the liberal toilet of the house of NC.

        • What ya got and how much?

        • Your gun will net you $50 at a buyback one of these days, if you even truly own one.

        • JokerinNC….”Fear” is a mind killer!

        • …Which makes you what your cast judgement against, you gun-hording, bullet-scrounging half-wit. You are obviously a deeply confused psudo-libtard. How dare you want to protect yourself, that isn’t allowed in the party Komrade! Wake up and look in the mirror, the differences that separate us are what the Gun-Grabbing lobby is counting on. The answer is a unified front immediately following the next major “FLAG” event – real or staged. It is past time we all get over the petty bickering, and go to the throats of those who really matter, not the sheep biting the flanks of the sheep in front of them!

          Yes, “Not One More Inch” but that should have been 10 miles ago…

      53. Slowly taking away liberties . The blind continue to never learn from their mistakes.
        Hilter and Stalin were both Time magazines Man of the Year. Now our President does the same fooling people through the press and using tragedies to push agendas. A slow but steady decline has begun. Check out our prepper supplies at http://www.Allpreppedup.com thousands of items and great prices.

      54. One word everyone must know and hope for, VOLUME. The higher the number of people that give those anti-gun anti-self defense creeps the double flip off, the less chance they have of enforcing anything. It is one thing to pick off a few people, it is an entirely different story trying to enforce anything to tens of millions.

        I remember “The Postman” how the bad guy was able to spread tyranny and keep power, bu picking off small numbers of individuals and then killing them or assimilating them. At the end of the movie when one the Bethlehem’s cronies commented on the riders coming to engage his army, he said, “it’s an army”. Same idea applies here, the U.S. government or any government tyhat would want total control in the future absolutely doens’t want to face off against an army, especially a well armed army. This is one reason why they want everyone’s firearms so desperately.

        Let’s face it. If the majority of Americans refuse to give up their 2nd Amendment rights, the goverment IF it plans to control everything will have to go to plan B. If the majority of Americans do give in, then they will pick those freedom fighters off one by one, likely using stealth drones to do it or various Waco and Ruby Ridge style takeovers. This is why it is essential that the VOLUME of people refusing to obey totally obvious violations of the 2nd Amendment remain as high as possible.

        Now the nightmare of plan B. Unfortunately an evil government is capable of ANYTHING. IF those in control are that wicked demonic level, I hope not but it is possible, they will use biological means of controlling the population. It seems beyond reason, but biological control is the easiest way to turn the population too morbid to do anything. Like the movie Red Dawn, all the Soviets had to do was poison that food they purposely left fall out of the truck rather than try to use those helicopter gun ships again the wolverines.

        This is why on top of a well armed battery of firearms that EVERYONE MUST know how to combat various sicknesses themselves. Let’s face the government, any government could shoot out non-lethal germs out there that would knock 99% of the population right on their ass for a couple of weeks without killing them. It would be morbidity rather than fatality that they would look for. IF everyone KNOWS how to maintain an enhanced immune system, the government’s plan B should it ever come to fruition, won’t go as planned. Daisy is the expert on this as well as many other people here on this site.

        What bothers me so much is that the government seems so hell bent on getting rid as many firearms as possible as quickly as possible. Just this very desperate time frame can work very much against those trying to take away the people’s right to protect them. IF there is a time frame, the more reactionary the state will act as the time grows closer. IF there is some time frame, look for much more radical measures in the coming days. Look for feinsteinless to become even more of an ogress or a Medusa type turn everyone to stone type harpy. ESPECIALLY LOOK FOR HOW MUCH BO TALKS ABOUT GUN CONTROL IN ANY BROAD SPEECH ABOUT ALL THE OTHER ISSUES PLAGUING THE U.S. The more BO talks about gun control, the more desperate BO is to start up some type of gun grab as soon as possible. This will be the indications to probably look for how serious the situation is.

      55. Lady Liberty is in Tears!!! NO Guns = Tyranny… History is the only evidence that is without question, we are the United States Governed by our constitution and bill of rights; this is NOT North Korea, Germany, or the UK. We should act like it, but deposing politicians that abdicate the sworn oath of office.


      56. Mac, you are going to start to turn us to stone if you keep posting that real ugly feinsteinless face too much on these articles. Talk about a true mirror breaker.

        Okay out of the the three Diana Monkeys, see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil, which one of them looks most like diana feinsteinless?


      57. When they have taken my guns, the cold dead fingers of my right hand will be in the shape of my pistol grip, and the fingers of my left will be flipping the bird. Blaze of glory!!!!

      58. On a lighter note, where is Rich99?

        I hope she’s ok! I miss her.

        • They stopped allowing computer hour in her side of the asylum.

      59. The majority of cops already said they won’t take part in confiscation. So if any shooting does happen you will be shooting at the feds, which is better anyways.

        • I keep hearing about how LEO will “naturally” comply with gun confiscation, and I’m not seeing it. Really? They want to risk their lives on something they KNOW is bullshit? Like they don’t have enough to deal facing down real criminals, now they’re going to be lackeys for a policy they don’t even agree with?

      60. @BI….Your point about Biological Weapons to control some areas is a good point….

        What do you think the Drones are for?

        The Drones will become Human Crop Dusters. That is, instead of spraying for weevil in soybeans, it will be specific sortis in conservative areas of humans. Example, preppers living in a forest. Or, a certain person or two in a neighborhood (the others are collateral damage).

        It will be a group of people in one spot.

        Biological Warfare is good in that Humanaticides can dissipate in a few hours or so after a GPS targeted spray, and then be clean so the Dipshidiots can go outside and play. With one good Drone Duster spray you could wipeout quite a few at a relatively cheap price. A big bargain for the NWO financers.

        A bomb destroys, thus you have to rebuild? A spray just kills like with the Kurds.

        A spray does damage and then sort of goes away. You could spray gardens and cows and many things. And then the next day, walk on through it.

        Heck, even with vaccines you could put in a ‘terminator’ gene and select for those that will get it and those that won’t. One vaccine for the good ol Dipshidiot, and another for the Patriot that wonders later why he/she developed a weird form of cancer. A vaccine may even have spy technology such as GPS.

        I love Scientist. Tenure is a bad thing.

      61. I’ve been resisting this shit for a long time. I’m not going into all the details right now, but in the end I had always hoped for a peaceful solution, even though I know these things don’t get better without a lot of ugly. None of us would welcome a war except those that don’t know what it is, and that’s a whole lot of pain.

        Knowing full well what this means, I will NEVER go quietly into the night. I will NEVER submit. I will NEVER comply with tyranny. These control freaks have had a really nice scam running for a good long time, but it’s never enough or them. They want it all, including your soul if they could get it.

        With that said, do not back me into a corner and force me to become a rabid dog of war. Surely, the spirit of 1776 will resonate from many corners of this country. Something you do not want, so back the fuck off!

      62. i will NOT submit!

      63. We had a .22, yessir. Gave it away when we heard there might be a ban. Sumdood at the swap meet traded us a bunch of canning jars for it. No idea what his name was, didn’t need it back then. Sumdood in cammos with a JD hat and… Wait, that’s the guy who bought the pit puppies. Sumdood in a Don’t Tread on Me tee shirt and a Huskies cap… What race? Well, you can’t really tell around here, probably one of them Cambodian/Russian mixes. You know, short and opinionated. Hair color? Purple and gold… like a Huskies cap. Ain’t you listening son?

        A LEO boyfriend once mentioned that the most infuriating witnesses to interview are the helpful people who want to tell you in detail exactly how little useful information they possess. Gives the rest of the neighborhood time to notice things. Kind of like when I was a kid and somebody yelled “La Miga!” Ten minutes later nobody in the neighborhood had ever met one another and they all worked nights when it’s too dark to see anything.

        Read up about the community activities of the resistance in WW II and — no, don’t take notes. Just remember. Teach your kids what goes on in your home is nobody’s business. Teach them that sometimes free means standing up for yourself, and sometimes it means helping others. It’s still dangerous, but it may be a kind of dangerous some of can handle while others make themselves and their “contraband” tools scarce. Don’t believe because you can’t or won’t fight your actions don’t make a difference. Be a witness. Be a speed bump. Find a way to make a stand.

      64. Molon Labe.

        If they try to confiscate guns, resistance will be a hot 4th gen civil war. After the first several raids, Feds and their local thugs will be in reaction mode as civilian patriots with nothing to loose start hunting the Feds and their allies and screwing with their OODA decision loops.

      65. Unfortunatley some of us are going to have to be killed at least in the beginning. I have a lot to lose. Very nice house, 4 great kids and a beautiful wife. I am willing to lose it for the cause of this country. In the end, it really is all we have. I don’t want America converted to any other lame ass country that America keeps getting compared to these days. I only hope that when the first few are killed defending this country, that the honest word gets out. It will bring millions together as long as the likes of CNN, FOX, NBC, etc. don’t massage the hell out of the actual accounts. Keep your senses quick and your voices loud.

        • I pledge to stand by you. My life, my fortune, and my sacred honor for freedom. All I want is to be left alone. If we have to fight, if they force us, we go all out.

      66. Hit us with your best shot, Andy!
        Assault-rifle owners statewide are organizing a mass boycott of Gov. Cuomo’s new law mandating they register their weapons, daring officials to “come and take it away,” The Post has learned.

        Gun-range owners and gun-rights advocates are encouraging hundreds of thousands of owners to defy the law, saying it’d be the largest act of civil disobedience in state history.

      67. The real show is the Dollar crash, followed by the purchasing of assets for pennies. The Internationalists will quietly move abroad before it hits, and hide their activities with dummy corps and stooges.

        They are determined to destroy America, and take everything they can.

        What else does America have left for the parasites?

        • “What else does America have left for the parasites?”


      68. New York, the U.S, we must STAND united! You are either with the movement or against it. If you are a gun grabber, we don’t want you.

      69. I’m comforted with the thought, that many LEO’s probably realise how many people are willing to resist this oppressive move. I wonder what the average LEO, TSA and DHLS officer is thinking right now? I bet they are thinking, that they are in deep doodoo. They are going to be expected to go into several gun battles, every day, to take guns from law abiding citizens, who believe that it’s their God given, Constitutional Right, to stand and defend themselves and their families. They probably wonder how many neighbors will rush to the assistance of that particular individual whos guns they’ll be grabbing? It won’t be a once or twice in a career episode. It’ll be an every day event for LEOs.
        Up against an individual or even groups, who’ll be in a defensive position, well armed and motivated to simply just stay alive. I’m guessing that LEO’s are beginning to wonder how long THEY will last in a potential Civil War. Because that’s what it’s going to turn into. Even the Military are probably thinking “you want me to do what??? to my fellow American” Those who’ve sworn to uphold the Constitution are being pushed into position to ignor that oath.

        No wonder Obummer has been removing senior Military Officers from Command positions as fast as he can, these last couple months. He’s put bobble heads in Command that won’t question
        Un-Constitutional Orders. I’m therefore left wondering who and where are men like General Ham, and General Mattis USMC? Are they to be the new Robert E Lees of our time? Sure hope so!!

        Not one Inch!! Come and take it!!

        • Ill believe it when i see it that the LEO and others are even a little bit on the side of guys like us, I’m just sayin, wont trust any of them until they prove they are on the up and up. Feds, itll take a lot to trust any of them, so be cautious.

        • The Feinswine crowd want us all terrified of them. Terrified people are quite dangerous and impossible to reason with. A real can of worms.

          re:Large scale confiscation raids
          LEOs surely know that nobody stays undefeated forever. Such a situation means most of us on both sides will have to give up our fantasies of a long and peaceful retirement. Once such raids start, it cannot end well. In any armed conflict, neither side comes away unscathed.

        • @Cede

          I can tell you as a municipal officer that those in my fraternity (gulf coast of Texas) that we intend to make them “Come and Take it”. I have been protecting my community for twenty years and have no intention of seeing it crushed. As I said in my earlier post I don’t want this to become a revolution but I believe in the intelligence of the founders of the “Constitution” and their belief in liberty. I read all these posts about being a target due to my profession, but I don’t think many people realize the true cost of bad laws or liberty like us. I have shed blood for my community without hesitation, I believe me and my brothers and sisters will be in the front if it comes to that.

      70. MOLON LABE!

      71. Submit AND Obey? That was never in the Game Plan. My concern though, is how the masses will react when “shock and awe” sucker punches them into the next county. That’s going to be a sight to behold and it’s going to get messy out there. The proverbial Mind Field.

        Remember; Power in Numbers! Stay grounded, centered and remain under their radar until it’s time to STRIKE!

        • They did “shock and awe” in Afghanistan…how’s that going? These puke POS assholes have way over stepped… they weren’t content with being in charge, now they’re demanding that we become mind numbed robots and blindly obey. At this point, even scrawny four eyed computer nerds like yours truly will feel like THEY have pushed us into a corner, and that we have no room to breath and no more ground to give.

          They might kill me, but they’ll have to celebrate minus one of their eyes and both of their fucking gonads

      72. Sterling Silver and Clint Hospo, last time i checked, actions still speak louder than words. You better take the word of these LEOs with a whole shaker of salt. They’ve been bought off by DHS ever since Bush Jr.’s first term when DHS was first created. Today’s breed of cops are not like pre-911 cops. The curriculums at their academies have been totally changed to the federal curricilum; i.e., they’ve been totally brainwashed h that federal ‘us vs. them’ mentality. We the people are allegedly “the enemy”; the ultimate source of their paychecks, benefits, pensions if they live long enough to get one. They are only government employees according to the federal and state supreme courts. They have no obligation to the public and don’t even care about the public. Whoever forces their way into my home, i don’t care if you’re wearing a uniform or not, you will die. Police don’t serve the people, they serve government. They don’t care about our rights or anything else. They don’t love this country. braveheart

        • I’m right with you! You will never see Obama on a mug-shot for what he did selling guns to criminals and they ended up killing people. All he does is parties on our money with his fake smiles while we fight with each other. We should be united GOP and Dems and race and color together. But we got each of us fighting with each other, if I get a thumb down on this, it’s only for someone so far up Obama ass, they will do anything to see him increase taxes on us and drive us out of jobs.

          I don’t understand why you would want this or to see someone screw us and while you are thinking he’s going to help you out! Obama will only help himself and you know in your hearts this is true! You would want higher prices on everything just to see this fraud have fun in office while he screws you and me. I don’t understand you liberals protecting Obama. You would rather help someone else than help yourselves and wait for Obama to help you. Obama is not coming to save anyone. It’s time you learn to look after you!

      73. Molon Labe!!
        As has the senator, I also took an oath to defend the Constitution. Unlike the senator, I understand the Constitution.

      74. These whack-jobs are not in the business of losing. There is a global plan and the stakes are high. Be prepared to encounter events you did not foresee or even imagine. Reduce emotion and raise consciousness while there is still time. Study your enemy, study history, and above all, cast off constructs of belief that came to you second hand.

      75. you let illegals now get a drivers license to drive and they are illegal. This is madness!! You can fuck off if you think people are going to turn them over. You better hope the people of NY don’t turn them on you.

      76. Hard to believe this is happening… That’s the problem with freedom. We have allowed those that despise our “outdated morals and constitution” to slowly organize to a point where they are more powerful than us. This was done in the name of diversity, in the name of equality, in the name of women rights, in the name of gay rights etc etc to where we are soooo fractured I cannot see how to avoid this catastrophe without a major bloodbath. Women on the front lines, Crosses coming down in the military, helpless thousands killed every year in the womb all in the name of some right.

        I served my time in Vietnam hunting the so called enemy. Now I am the enemy! By doing nothing, saying nothing, trying to mind our business… We caused this. May not be politically correct but it’s true.

        Now the fat lady is about to sing and we still can’t muster but a few thousand to rally in capitols. In fact the enemies of america rally far more to destroy our once wonderful republic.

        The only way to win is to somehow cut off their money. Now that they can just print it up there is no way we stand a chance. Lincoln proved that with the printing of greenbacks during the civil war.

        Unorganized resistance is futile as was proven in the revolutionary war. The Redcoats laughed at the militia. Only Washington’s somewhat organized army got results. Now the Fedcoats have us in an even worse situation. We don’t even have a militia.

        Doesn’t look good folks. Ask the Russians. They got their arms taken from them by the Soviets.

        I know I sound somewhat a defeatist but I just hate to see unnecessary death even brave and well meaning death.

        If Washington isn’t surrounded by millions of pro republic protesters soon it will be game over.

        Semper fi to the constitution.

        • DAMN

        • Yes, the term “Fedcoats” describes our situation perfectly. Also, a realistic appraisal is not a defeatist attitude at all. If this boils over into a war, it is not going to be pretty at all. Anyone resisting will be labeled a terrorist insurgent, count on it. However, by that time, a good chunk of the veteran population will have organized and I certainly don’t consider veterans an unorganized militia.

          This country may be in for the worst time in it’s history, but we’re talking about the right to be alive is at stake here. These lunatics mean to erase anyone that opposes them and enslave the rest. This will ultimately come down to “join or die”.

          Also, have you listened to the latest rhetoric from that scumbag law professor talking about giving up on the Constitution? They’re getting very bold with their moves. These are insane times we live in and the lunatics are clearly running the asylum.

          I don’t have all the answers. All I know is that I am not going to be a slave. The law of this land is the Constitution and Bill of Rights. When the lawless make the rules for the rest of us, the rest of us are left with little choice.

          “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! ” Patrick Henry

      77. Come to my door for my gun, you will get a bullet. I will fight with my brothers & for my brothers. We are Patriots & im sick of the people who taint Wasington. My great granfathers, granfathers did not bleed for our freedom for me to stand by & watch it lost i will fight.

      78. It is to late to put the Genie back in the bottle. God help you all. I pray you guys prevail and hang all your opponents from the highest trees.

        • Kill the Genie

      79. A dog submits and obeys.

      80. Just so you’ll know how these people think…


        This is what passes for enlightened thought today.

        Don’t like the Constitution? Just scrap it.

        These are our enemies folks. These are the ones that need to be occupying the FEMA camps when this all shakes out.

        Guys like this pinhead professor from Georgetown, are one of the “domestic enemies” that those who take an oath to defend the Constitution are sworn to defend against.

      81. Just remember, it has to start somewhere. The plan they have is going like this,”Why not test it here first, and make one state submit then we will move on to the rest slowly but surely.”

        Careful people, we are the enemy.

        • Right an the first part

          wrong on the second part, they are the enemy

      82. NEVER!!!

      83. @Be Informed: I just got an e-mail from a friend on Diego Garcia; he’s an officer in the Navy.

        Said the ground seems to be moving all the time now, tremor’s all the time. The weather guys there are wondering what is going on, he said Oh well.

        Also heard that USGS has a type of small (HQ) if you will, set up in CARIO, IL. Don’t know for sure but will try to confirm. Friend said a lot more activity going on in that area from them, more than usual.

        I guess when they bug out, LOOK OUT.

      84. Greetings Folks!
        The time to take a stand is finally upon us.Despots and Tyrants both state and Washington are revealing their true Satanic-influenced goals as last.”False-flags” will continue to occur to “prove” that their actions are”justifiable”.I for one will miss what was a “Grand-experiment”.Shame on Obama,Como and all the rest.They are the ones who have chosen this time to choose sides,Ladies and Gentlemen.I do not desire this coming fight to stand up for Truth and Justice and Honor,but I will not Bow down and cower.I for one will RESIST.I do not fear the self-serving,Godless lackeys of darkness,even unto death.
        Best to Folks here tonight,
        Hug your loved ones,you may not get a second chance in the days ahead.

      85. Please read this slowly…and out loud. Say it to yourself everyday:


        • Got it.

        • I think it’s ‘game on’ now, huh?

      86. I have gone through the mourning process with this for a long time when I first woke up. First was disbelief of what was happening. 2nd was grief and fear for what was being done to us. 3rd was righteous, blinding anger, at these traitorous, scum, sucking, dogs. 4th I became resigned to the fact that it is what it is and try to live my life as best as I could and take joy when and where I could.
        Well now my friends we are at that pivotal point in history where we either stand as free human beings or lick the boots of our master’s as they use them to stomp our and our childrens faces in to the mud of history. I and my wife my friends will not go quietly into that good night.
        I will not be forcibly Vaccinated!
        I will not be relocated to camp FEMA!
        I will not ever register or turn in my guns!
        If these people proceed down this path then God help them for they will receive nothing from me other than my righteous wrath!
        I will step into that breech my brothers and all I have left to say is if they want them,COME AND TAKE THEM!BRING IT ON! NOT ONE MORE INCH!
        Lock and load and check your six
        DEFCON1 out

        • Hi. Now is the time to be calm and wait. We will be going through a period of great destruction worldwide, starting March 21,2013 and extending in three waves into 2016. This will wipe out all governments and their terrorist military and police.When it happens, you will understand. Move inland, if you can because coastal areas will have a near 100% kill rate. Best of luck and hang in there.

          • rollsthepaul,

            Cliff High? Farsight.org?? Enlighten me.

            • SD M…there was a clif high report on sgtreport the other day. not good at links.

              It was the first ch report that I had ever listened to. He discussed this but stated that we would know by June 1 of this year.

              Worth listening to…first 20 minutes or so for sure.

              I understand the earth…If she wants us gone, it can happen in seconds…

              I watched the sunami in Japan live as it happened…didn’t need to see that to know that is how it happens…just positive re-enforcement.

      87. WHen HELL FREEZES OVER…..

      88. I am in NY and I am very worried about what may happen if they try and enforce the ridiculous edicts they have forced upon us. I know there are thousands of older guys here who have nothing left to live for, no wife, no kids, no family, all they have is their home and their guns and if some man in sharp suit tells them they have to surrender their property or go to prison… they would rather die first and THAT is what scares me. Who woulda thought the resistance would start in my own town…
        I have but one message for the Government and its royal members..

      89. Went out to the public range today to fire off my new shotgun for the first time. It was the first day of clear weather in a couple weeks. I expected it to be packed but it was well less than half full. I am thinking this is because people are preserving ammo.

        • Or rather hoping that the small numbers at the range was due to ammo conservation. Love the new shotgun. Got a CTD order in the mail for rifled slug and #2 pellet and a tactical stock.

          I just want to throw it out there, im concerned about many of the posts i see. It sometimes seems that people are more concerned with the opportunity to kill people they disagree with than simply defending freedom.

          There is a thin line between defending freedom and spreading tyranny. I hope that we will have the fortitude and intentions set out in our constitution, well engrained within our own intentions when the times deem it necessary to bear arms to defend freedom and our great republic.

        • Buy a gang mold to cast 00 buck. The mold doesn’t cost much and 12 gauge is easy to reload. Lay in a good supply of primers and powder. The 12 gauge pump is about the perfect weapon. Top it off as you go and it’s always loaded.

      90. Hey folks, I tried to make sure none of this was covered in previous comments, but if in any way I am being redundant please forgive me.
        Two points:First, if military suicide rates are high now…think of the psychological impact of slaughtering otherwise regular American citizens and their families(because it WILL happen).They will attempt to justify it through the excuse of the re-establishment of law and order, but with the medicines they are prescribed and the stress levels they will endure…well the politicians and legis-traitors will be fine in their air-conditioned shelters,as usual, and the pawns will have to go begging their masters for prosthetic limbs so they can walk to the toilet and wipe themselves.WE all may share the same fate, but for what reason?I’d rather die trying to do what is right than to serve some (expletive deleted) who sends me to fight, die,and crucify my conscience.
        Second,I suspect that many Christian soldiers and service”people” will begin to question exactly “who” they are working for if, say, some form of identification involving RFID technology is mandated…for their safety first, of course.(Might be wrong on that one).

      91. Not one more inch.

      92. Either move out of New York or stay and fight! Make your choice now!

      93. This might sound off topic, but I’m a compound bow user, but I want to get a crossbow too. I’ve never touched on. How much harder to draw/load a crossbow (with loading device) than, say, a 90 pound pull compound bow? Do you really have to get in it with both feet to load a 160 pound crossbow?

        • most of the high power cross bows have a loading crank, it is geaared down to aid in the ability to pull back the resistance of a high power bow..
          the lower power type cross bows , have a foot sturup to place you foot in and a loading band that goes on your wrist and pulled.

          Never dry fire any cross bow, or compound bow

          • so, the easier and probably quickest of the two is the one WITHOUT the stirrup on the end? I’ve got about $1500 to spend on that and extra darts/accessories. I’m only asking this, because I have to do it mail order and I don’t know anyone who has a crossbow I can try first. There is no one around I’d trust with the info of what I’m stacking with.

      94. The f’n Ewoks beat back the Empire with dam rocks and logs !!!! They weren’t sittin around debatin shit …

      95. Good morning to all.

        It’s been a long, long, night at work, so if this seems like a disorganized ramble, just overlook it, and chalk it up to a bleary-eyed old vet who’s up way past his bedtime.

        I was listening to some of the employees at work this evening, and the majority of the conversations concerned the upcoming Super Bowl. Since I am the shift supervisor one of them finally got around to asking who I liked in the game. I told the guy, “No offense, Bill (not his real name, of course), but I couldn’t even tell you who’s playing.” He seemed a little shocked, until I told him I all but quit watching television, and that I have higher priorities, and better things to do with my time.

        “Bill” must have sensed my not-so-cheery mood, and went back to sweeping the floor.

        Been trying to explain to some people (people just like “Bill”) how things are, and where we are all headed very soon, and all I get for my trouble are a lot of blank stares. Seems more care about a bunch of overpaid idiots running around on a big field, than what is happening to our freedoms and our very way of life. I have no use for people like that. “Bill”, and a lot of others like him, will be the ones who Submit and Obey.

        Not this guy.

        Maybe it was on another thread, and I don’t recall the handle of a commenter who posted it, but it was something along the lines that we are all just talking crap, just full of hot air, or something like that, and that when the time came, we’d all cave in. Well, whoever it was, I hope he comes along and reads this.

        You think so? Well, let me extend a personal invitation to visit Kentucky sometime soon, preferably after dark, say . . . 2 am tomorrow, and kick in my door. Please. I’ll show you some of our famous southern hospitality, in packages of 180 grain hollowpoint. I fucking mean that. Sincerely.

        Sorry folks, but I am just too old, too tired, and too fed up with the bullshit, but I will apologize if I offended anyone with the language.

        Prepping continues here in the state of Kentucky. I am running into a big, big problem acquiring .22 long rifle ammo. None to be found anywhere. I checked over two dozen online ammo retailers, and all are backordered for weeks, if not months. If anyone knows of an online site that may have some, please let me know. Much appreciated.

        Got home some time after midnight. My daughter was asleep on the couch again. Carried her to bed, tucked her in, and kissed her cheek. Wife was asleep in our bed, with the 12 gauge pump leaning in the corner within easy reach, just like I told her to keep it when I’m at work.

        Good girl, honey.

        Off to bed. I’ll check back later today, and hopefully leave some comments that actually stay on topic.

        “Not One More Inch!”

        KySSG . . . out.

        • Oh, forgot to mention . . . that is one fugly bitch in that picture at the top. Felt the hair stand up on the back of my neck when I saw it. I even hissed at it.

          “Not One More Inch!”

          KySSG . . . out.

          • You got that right! If you stare at her picture long enough, especially the “eye of the serpent”, you can see the snakes coming out of her head and hear the rattling tails. One evil bitch, maybe as evil as Billery.

            • I heard that someone had dropped a house on her sister.

              • Ha! Excellent!

                “Not One More Inch!”

                KySSG . . . out.

              • That house WAS her sister…

        • @KySSG

          One side it sure make me feel terrible that I have to prepare for future events in ways I would have never thoght of a few years back. There again I’m tired of the suppression of my Constitutional rights and the threats of my government against me. I have listed a few small preps below.
          We are doing a lot of talking of what we are going to do but many can not envision an assualt upon our homes.
          If you have never been in the military it will be hard to visualise the force that can be brought against you. Pepper gas, Tear gas. Flash Bang Grenades and even bullets tearing thru your walls. The amount of manpower that can make multiple entrys. Consider the fright and chaos the rest of your family would endure.
          We are all Billy Bad Asses Now. That is going to change for sure.

          Not One More Inch.

          • @slingshot:

            Never claimed to be a Billy Bad Ass. However, I have served 14 years active army, served in a war, and I am very familiar with those things you mentioned. I am also familiar with my own capabilities, my strengths and weaknesses.

            Am I scared? Damn right I’m scared! Who in their right mind would want the shitstorm coming our way? But if you let it eat at you, you’ve lost before it even starts.

            When it does, my family will be somewhere else, tucked away with ample provisions. One less distraction.

            Will I be killed? Probably, but I’m okay with that. I know I will have died for something bigger than all of us. But I guaranfuckingtee you I will be taking a few with me.

            “Not One More Inch!”

            KySSG . . . out.

          • Those that are American homes and families have homes and families too. It’s not like some drone operator in the western part of the US attacking weddings half way around the world in Afghanistan, that goes home to the wife and kids in the evening. Their families live in the same neighborhoods as do their targets. Once they take action against the general population, their families will become targets. And they won’t just be targets while daddy is off killing patriots, they’ll be targets 24/7 and have to be protected from then on.

            • Those that are attacking…

        • If you ain’t from Kentucky, you don’t understand Kentuckians.
          Did you check out Uncle Lees?? In Greenville.




        • @ Eisenkreutz

          That is a bad omen! Why are they trainning in the cities when the have ranges to do live fire? Even with blanks there is no difference with a land target considering the lethality of the weapons platform.
          A show of force to the public? What would a 30mm chain gun be used against in a public setting? A Brinks armor car, D10 tractor, Locomotive or airplane maybe? The only possible thought would be a speedboat loaded with explosives for a run on the Port of Miami not the City proper.
          This is the first time I have seen live fire used. Something to think about for sure.

          • just more conditioning of the masses in highly populated areas.

          • Intimidation, show of force, to scare people, only a loser administration does such things. If they really do it they will open up Pandora’s Box.

      97. WHY IS DHS ORDERING 7000 AR-15s

        • Because they can just print the money and pass the debt to us.

      98. Cemetary Tour

        2041 AD –Somewhere in middle America

        5 year old girl: Daddy, what’s all those white stone crosses over there?
        Man: That’s the Oklahoma Patriots Cemetary. It’s where your Grandpa and Grandma are buried. And several others, like your Uncle Jack, Aunt Minnie, Uncle Carl, plus lots of others.
        Girl: How come they’re all buried together? Can we go see the graves? How come they died? Do they all have a cross like the others? Will we see them in heaven? Can we…
        Man: Whoa there Princess! That’s a lot of questions! Let’s walk over to them and I’ll tell you some things about them. About us really. Maybe that’ll answer your questions.
        Girl: Okay Daddy. Don’t forget to hold my hand while we cross the road.
        Man: (gently takes her small hand in his and walks slowly toward the cemetary) When I was about your age, there was a war in America. I don’t remember much about the first parts of it, but it lasted til I was a teenager, so I can tell you how it all ended.
        Girl: Did you fight in the war, Daddy? Was it very bad? Were you scared?
        Man: Yes, Princess, I did fight. We all did. And, yes, I was scared many, many times. But, just listen and I’ll tell you what happened…
        “When it started, in 2014, times were already real hard for people. I was just starting school, in first grade, but I remember food was expensive. And hard to get. Most folks didn’t have enough and some of them starved. But the war was the worst. At first, it was mostly just fighting in the big cities back east, and in California. When it finally spread across the whole country, in 2016, it was really scary.
        My mom and dad, your Grandma and Grandpa, were raising cows and stuff on a little farm. I remember it was always so much fun to run and play on the farm. But, anyway, we kept hearing on the news how the war was getting closer each day. We’d see planes and jets flying over real fast sometimes.
        Then, one day my brother, your Uncle Jack, came running home from town. He’s was 14 then, and he was in a panic! He said the Fedcoats Army was rolling toward town in tanks and big formations of soldiers. He and your Grandpa grabbed their guns, went and got the neighbors, and they all raced out to the edge of town with the rest of the people.
        I wanted to go but your Grandma wouldn’t let me. She was crying and very scared. In a few minutes we heard gunfire and explosions. We could see smoke start to rise from the middle of town. About an hour later, Dad and Jack came back. Jack was bleeding from his side and they said some of our neighbors had been killed. But they had blown a bridge at the river and some of the army troops were kept out of town. It gave the town people enough time for some of them to evacuate.
        Mom did what she could to treat Jack’s wound, and Dad started loading things into the car. I helped him carry some of the stuff. Then we took off down the old dirt road and away from town to Uncle Carl’s house.
        It was about an hour away, and we stayed there overnight. That’s the night that Jack died. Your Grandma was very sad. But we had to bury him and move on, along with Carl’s family. We headed into the hills out by Lost Lake. We stayed there for several weeks.
        Dad, Carl and two of Carl’s sons would sometimes go off to fight. They’d usually come back in a day or two. Sometimes they were scratched up or hurt, but not too bad. I didn’t know, till a few years later, that they were joining other people in a geurilla war against the Fedcoats.
        Anyway, after a couple of months we had to move again. We kept doing that for the next several years. We’d live in our tent, sometimes next to other people in their tents or lean-to shacks. It was really cold in the winter, and sometimes we got pretty hungry.
        The men, and some of the women, as well as the older kids, would go off to fight and then come back in a few days. Sometimes, some of them didn’t come back. They did that for a month or two, sometimes longer, then we’d pack up and move again.”

        Girl: Did you go with them, Daddy?
        Man: Yes, when I was old enough. When I was little, I helped get firewood, trapped rabbits and squirrels and things to eat and helped out around the camp. When I was 12, I started to go with the fighters.
        Girl: Was it scary? Did the bad army guys shoot at you?
        Man: Yes, it was always scary. And, yes, sometimes the army guys shot at us. Sometimes we did what we needed to do and ran away before they saw us.
        Girl: Did you shoot any of the bad men, Daddy?
        Man: Well, maybe when you’re older I’ll tell you more about it. But, let’s just say…I did what I had to. We all did.
        “When I was 14, the Patriot Army was pushing the Fedcoats back out of most of the areas they’d taken before. We just kept after them, fighting geurilla style someitimes. But by then the P A was organized into a large fighting force. Actually, each state had it’s own Patriot group. But they all fought together. And the geurillas always tried to work with them, so they didn’t accidently hit a Patriot unit, thinking it was the Feds.
        Then, in the fall of ’25, we moved into Campo, Colorado.
        We stayed there for the next two years, running raids into northern Oklahoma and the Texas panhandle. We finally had some cars and trucks, and enough fuel to go long distances. For most of the previous years we’d been traveling on foot. So now, we could go 50 or even 100 miles to do our raids. We even joined a unit of the Colorado Patriot Brigade for a few months. That’s when your Grandpa got killed, when we retook Woodward.
        Then, in ’27, just a few months before the war ended, your Grandma and Aunt Minnie died in the First Battle of Ft Sill. That’s where I lost my little finger, too. But not long after that, the last of the Fedcoats were pushed out of Oklahoma. And the Lone Star Militia finished ’em off in practically all of Texas.
        Lots of other states were in a sort of mop-up operation by then too, getting the last Federal units cleaned out. Places like Huntsville, Alabama…Shreveport…Little Rock…even as far east as Memphis.
        Plus, those boys in Tennessee joined up with the Free Virginia State Army and retook Washington. I wasn’t there, but they say it was one heck of a battle! Over 60,000 Federal casualties in four days. That broke the back of the old regime and then it was simply a matter of rounding up the last of the tyrants as they fled. By January of 2028 it was over…except the trials and hangings for the tyrants who’d started it all.
        After the war was over, we took Jack, and your Grandpa and Grandma and the rest, and reburied them here, in the Patriots cemetary. See that marker? That’s your Grandma’s resting place.”

        Girl: Daddy, what was Grandma’s favorite color?
        Man: I…I don’t remember. Why do you ask?
        Girl: I’m gonna go pick some wildflowers and leave them here for Grandma. Do you think she’ll like the blue ones?…..

        • Aw shucks Okie you got my eyes to watering….

      99. I will not comply.Death is only another step to life

      100. Salute Patriots!
        That Diane Frankenstein is one scarey critter. No wonder everyone is arming themselves with the likes of them running are country. With all the rumors of war on this planet are President must be crazy to want to disarm its Militia. I would be training every citizen i could right now, and building bomb shelters. Funny with all are technology and wealth we only have bomb shelters for the high rollers that run this country. Taking are guns may seem like the best thing to do, but man will just find other ways to cause mass deaths. So you gun crabbers leave the men and women alone in this country that are not afraid to own and shoot firearms. You may come a time this nation will need these Patriots to defend this nation from whatever.

        • Frankenstein, thats a good one, tell her she needs to go tighten her bolts.

      101. Good story Oak! Hope it remains just that, a (fictional) story. A revolutionary war is not the way i wanted to spend my silver years.

        If need be, I’m all about removing evil from this earth, so count me in. There is plenty that need removing. I’m not trying to judge and play executioner, but those that are convicted of treason should be hanged. And those that commit homicide and rape of the little ones, should be stoned to death and sent to their Creator to stand before their victim to stand trial.

        Too many murders and rapist are on the taxpayer’s payroll. Way too many evil treasoners are on our payroll as well. It’s time to stand up and be counted.

      102. I’m breaking radio silence because this is urgent. OK so everyone SOUNDS ready to defend themselves. But lets not assume that all of us hiding behind our front doors with our weapons at the ready is NOT THEIR PLAN because it sure seems like it IS THEIR PLAN. We need to wage a Peaceful Resistance while there is still time. How about a 100 million gun owners march? Ok not on DC but on every State Capital? And no arms ok; lets just bring broomsticks (or something ?) and Wave Our Flags THIS TIME. But get out there and represent those who believe in the Constitution and 2ndA. And maybe some signs like JOBS INSTEAD OF GUN CONTROL or CONTROL DEBT NOT CITIZENS or DEFEND AMERICA FROM INVASION…surely we can each come up with some good ones. My point is lets take a non-violent offensive as a First step. At least we can say we tried. And it would be a great way to meet and organize off line, and do a Recon of the opposition. We can’t win this on defense and THEY know it. Time to make a show of strength and it should be non violent first IMHO.

      103. The bigger problem is that half the country has no idea of natual law, or the governing philosphy of the greatest thinkers of our age, or what it means to be an American. This ignorance can be attributed to two problems:

        1. Forced government schooling. This is nothing but a tool of the power hungery to keep the population ignorant and indoctrinated in believing in the “expert” ruling class that they must obey.

        2. The Immigration Reform Act of 1965. If you can’t get the population to accept a ruling class, change the population. The massive influx of socialist brainwashed Eurotrash and third world bottom feeders who know nothing but totalitarian rule (and vote that way), come here for economic advantage, but tend to try and remake their new land in the image of their homeland. Close to half of the population of the US is here as a result of that Act, and that doesn’t include illegal aliens. This combined with the “work” and “student” visas makes natural born Americans a displaced minority in their own land, with many of the best job and educational opportunities taken by foriegners.

        This was by design, people. The intent is to get rid of freedom loving Americans, and they are well on their way.

        The question is now, what will us Americans do about it? Hopfully the same thing our ancestors did – fight and win. My fellow Americans, steel yourselves and set your minds to the fact that you will have to fight to get your country back. This is not a battle you will win at the ballot box; you are going to have to kill your ememies and expel those not killed off of our shores.

      104. Not one more inch

        Live to fight
        Fight to live

      105. I fear for my grandchildren. One day when we have a fully black and minority congress, they might legislate to get rid of the whites.

        Do NOT laugh at this. History is filled with ethnic cleansing.

        At every turn anyone who is white and speaks up for their race is shot down as a racists.
        So who are the real racists?

        Controversy surrounded the formation of a Caucasian Club in November 2003 at the school. Freshman Lisa McClelland gathered about 250 signatures from students and adults to start a club that would focus attention on European heritage and history. Other societies already found in the school include the Black Student Union, the Latinos Unidos and the ALOHA club for Asian-American students. Lou Calabro, president of the European-American Issues Forum has become an informal advisor of the club and sent letters to two civil-rights organizations that the school’s administration be investigated. However, the Caucasian Club was accused of fueling racial tension,[1] and was forced to disband. McClelland eventually transferred out of the school.

        NEED I SAY MORE?

        The only saving grace is that the races are so mixing…that racial lines are getting very confused.

        And why aren’t the law makers in fear of us? That’s what the founding fathers wanted.
        They wanted a citizenry the ability to form militia and and deal with tyrants.

        Today now more than ever the 2nd and the constitution are dearly needed. Any UN communist plants need to be recognized for who they are.

        We are headed for some very bad times I fear. It’s the job of all Americans to resists on all fronts. Do not comply and to actually “buy American” and ammo up for your kids and grand kids. One day when I pass my guns and ammo to the next generation I will explain to them why I acquired a legal amount.

      106. Acronym Update
        Just so you can keep up with all the new federal agencies, here’s a list of the newest ones…

        Dept (of) Internet Protection (for) Secure Handling (of) Information Technology Systems

        Immigration Labor (and) Law Enforcement Guaranteeing America’s Living Standard

        Federal Use (of) Currency Knowledge To Help Ensure Fair Equitable Distribution

        Office (of) Banking And Monetary Alignment ‘Systems (to) Maintain A Safe Transfer (of) Earnings, Reinvestments (and) Securitiess

        National Office 2 Authorize Municipal (and) Military Enforcement Nullifying Danderous Methods (of) Ending (our) Nations Takeover

      107. Simply….Trust no one. Especially the police and govt.

        No one but yourself. Trust your values, your resolve, your integrity,and honor.

        And for all of us, not backing down. I trust that when the time comes, your aim will be true.

      108. I know this has been mentioned before here; just think anything by word of mouth is less likely to be monitored. Know what I mean. I personally think nothing by FB or Tweeter for sure.

        But that’s my thinking cause the times they are a change’n

        Pale rider

      109. Please do your history folks. Look at the countries/government that took weapons from the citizens. It was a prelude to the eventual loss of general freedom of life. Germany, Russia, Italy,etc.

      110. Nothing good ever came out of sitting, waiting and letting anyone do whatever the hell he wants with you.

        Just sayin.

      111. About half a century ago, the American-Japanese and America-Germans submitted and obeyed….

        These Americans were moved into internment camps in CA and TX (where else?) and they were forced to not only live there for years, but when they were eventually released, they were ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THEIR APPREHENSION.

        Aside from their legal property, the US Government took away their lives, their hopes, and their dreams.

        To those who do not believe the US Government is capable of ’rounding up’ its citizens (like JoeInNC), look to our recent past….

        • “Aside from their legal property, the US Government took away their lives, their hopes, and their dreams.”

          The only reason their lives were spared is we were holding and in the case of Japan winning by mid June of 42 after Midway. Let us have lost that sea battle and had the Japanese invaded the West Coast and the lives of those Japanese Americans interned would have been history. Wounded Knee was only 50 years prior.

        • Come See the Paradise …with Dennis Quaid.
          One of the greatest movies of the inhumane treatment, because these were Japanese/Americans.

          Could it ever happen here?
          You’re kidding, right?

      112. Good Read at the Daily Beast

        Gun Laws and the Fools of Chelm
        By David Mamet

        “Rule by bureaucrats and functionaries is an example of the first part of the Marxist equation: that the Government shall determine the individual’s abilities.

        “One-size-fits-all,” and that size determined by the State has a name, and that name is “slavery.”

        The Founding Fathers, far from being ideologues, were not even politicians. They were an assortment of businessmen, writers, teachers, planters; men, in short, who knew something of the world, which is to say, of Human Nature.

        Their struggle to draft a set of rules acceptable to each other was based on the assumption that we human beings, in the mass, are no damned good—that we are biddable, easily confused, and that we may easily be motivated by a Politician, which is to say, a huckster, mounting a soapbox and inflaming our passions.

        The Constitution’s drafters did not require a wag to teach them that power corrupts: they had experienced it in the person of King George.

        The American secession was announced by reference to his abuses of power: “He has obstructed the administration of Justice … he has made Judges dependant on his will alone … He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws … He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass out people and to eat out their substance … imposed taxes upon us without our consent… [He has] fundamentally altered the forms of our government.”

        … there are more than 2 million instances a year of the armed citizen deterring or stopping armed criminals; a number four times that of all crimes involving firearms.

        Violence by firearms is most prevalent in big cities with the strictest gun laws. In Chicago and Washington, D.C., for example, it is only the criminals who have guns, the law-abiding populace having been disarmed, and so crime runs riot.

        Cities of similar size in Texas, Florida, Arizona, and elsewhere, which leave the citizen the right to keep and bear arms, guaranteed in the Constitution, typically are much safer. More legal guns equal less crime. What criminal would be foolish enough to rob a gun store? But the government alleges that the citizen does not need this or that gun, number of guns, or amount of ammunition.”

      113. Yep, 1890….

        Amazing that the cycles repeat but fools refuse to see them.

        In this topsy-turvy radicalized Left movement, it’s different. This current cycle should have pinpointed the illegal aliens and all of that faux border control (“where’s the fence, Chernoff?”) for round up. But no….the illegals will get amnesty and a free life, complement of taxpayers who submit and obey.

      114. I grew up in the 30’s and 40’s. My Dad (born in 1914) and his Dad (born in 1893) were hunters and sport shooters. There were guns in racks and glass cases in the game room, hallways, and in the reloading room, which were all unlocked. When I was six I had a .22 Remington model 34 NRA Target rifle and a .22 six shot revolver. When I was eight, I hunted with a 30-30 lever action rifle.
        We did not need gun locks
        We did not have seat belts or child seats in our vehicles
        We did not lock our doors
        We did not have 95% of the Communist inspired anti gun laws on the books and we were free to use the first amendment without worrying about some communist whore screaming, “That’s hate speech.”
        Inch by inch the people of the United States have given the Communists many miles of rule. They now lord over us and have succeeded in dismantling the first and second amendments. I am glad to have the memories of a time when in a lesser tyrannical state of affairs.

        • Old Man, I’m about your age. I grew up the same way. My .22 was and is a Remington Targetmaster.
          Later, during my military service my rifle was and is the M1 Garand, best rifle ever made. While I’m old I can still shoot it and handle it like the Marine Corps’ silent drill team. I’ve got 48 round bandoleers stashed all over the place and it is never more than arms length away. Gonna be needing it again, soon.
          Semper Fi

      115. if they try a total gun ban the first thing to splinter would be the US armed forces. The fighting will start from within that structure. They would be labeled “insurgents” or “domestic terrorist” by the media. The government stands on 3 legs. The banks, the media and the consent of the people. They are losing the consent of the people, the banking system is near another crash and the media is no longer trusted. It will not take much to bring this system down.

      116. I am highly concerned over live fire by helos over a city. Not much you can do against them. So to counterpunch.
        All this talk about when they come to get your stuff and how many of you have taken GOOD PRECAUTIONS.
        The biggest precaution is denying them access inside your home. Some tips.
        Replace your door lock screws with longer one so they
        screw into the frame in your wall. That way they can not just kick in your door by breaking the weak door frame. Get a good dead bolt installed and if you can handle a hole near your door. Drill one so a piece of Re-Bar, 12 inches long. one half inch thick can be install right up against the door. As this assault begin make sure all your doors and windows are lock and those electric garage door openers are assisted by the locking bar.
        Get yourself a small dog or install a motion detecter.
        Lock your yard gates. One major item is asliding glass door and a clear film can be installed on to the glass that prevent breakage. Install a locking bar too. Other wise in an extreme case you can, if you can, drive your car up in front of it to block entry. Think TIME! All your firepower is worthless if you can’t get to it.

        Nothing is going to get better people. You better start using what is on top of your shoulders for something more than a hatrack.

      117. So when the big fight starts, I think it will be over quickly. Why? Because there will be no food. Once the bullets start fliying the long haul truckers are going to bug out and go home. The grocery stores will empty in days. It’s not like the Chinese are going to keep their ships coming or peruvian bananas make it on our shores. Sure there will be corn a plent in the midwest, but it isn’t going to be headed to the coasts where the trains and trucks get high jacked Reginal Denny style. I think people forget that fact. Sure, the preppers will have some food stores but sure would look a bit strange to be the only fat an happy guy in town. I just think this whole gun grab debate is a ruse for something much much bigger, like an infrastructure breakdown where the food stops, or a bio weapon gets released. These clowns KNOW that we won’t give up their guns, but some other major crap comes down the pipe and we’ll be preconditioed to give whatever it takes to not get Ebola or a loaf of bread. I’ve been to starving countries and people KILL each other over bags of rice.

        • Thanks for your insight and opinion Plarvo…first hand info gives us something to think about and prepare for.

          God bless you and your family.

        • @Plarvo

          It may get dicey. The two nerve centers are Washington D.C. and Wall Street.
          Highest gun control?

      118. You’ll need to read James Wesley Rawles’ book, “The Patriot”, which tells in detail what to do when the Fed brings in the UN forces to disarm us. He’s an ex-military guy, who knows what he’s talking about. And yes, they will bring in the UN because our military men are leaving in droves, as they are refusing to agree shooting fellow Americans who refuse to disarm. (See interview of Dr. Gallow on Alex Jones’ website– youtube). WE ARE NOT ALONE! We have special forces set up by Kennedy before he was assasinated– for this very purpose! And sheriffs all over the country are refusing to enforce this unconstitutional ban.

      119. That treasonous woman is the UGLIEST woman I ever saw! Is she a transgender? regardless, she looks a lot like Hitler! Perhaps she was in a previous life!

        • Cindy, a friend who was heavily into yoga once showed me an interesting technique to read the true emotions of people who have been photographed.

          It has something to do with either side of the human face exhibiting unconscious- and emotional influences from the opposite hemisphere of the brain, and it’s rather simple — just take a sheet of paper and cover half the face, first the left, and then switch to the right. Both sides almost ALWAYS exhibit differing expressions (and hence, according to the technique’s practitioners, unconscious emotional CUES).

          What does this technique “reveal” about Feinswine? The right half of her face (on the left from the viewer’s perspective) reveals unimaginable, SEETHING hatred and a lust for punishment and CRUELTY — while her left side (on our right) exhibits the signs of sheer TERROR.

          What this means is that there is a conflict within this DEMON between what she would LIKE in her heart of hearts to do to us and what she FEARS may be the result (for her and her ‘people’) if they TRY and FAIL. The DEMON Feinswine may not even be conscious of this conflict within itself (I hesitate to refer to ‘it’ as HUMAN).

          BTW, people normally pick up these cues UNCONSCIOUSLY, and act on them without really knowing WHY. In FEINSWINE’S case, the natural revulsion people feel for her appearance is a HEALTHY, survival-oriented response.

          I can’t answer for the science behind this, but I know it WORKS in scoping people out.

          • The Piper is clapping…
            The dark side always reveals itself if you have the sensitivity of the Light half within you.
            A truth warrior always looks for ‘tells’, a twitch, a raised eyebrow, a sneer, scratching the head, this also is the method of good poker players… they are professional observers and will play and lose long enough to figure out a set of opponents.

            These are the Forces of Creation, that work within you. The light and dark energies that compose you, and to deny them, is to cut yourself off from the collective consciousness of the All.

            The dark half is what the ancients called; the Animal of the Soul, this is also the Indian Totem animal revealed in the Medicine wheel of life, which is the manifestation of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil of the Gnostics.

            Christianity, at least from the Romans and their protesting daughters, dumbed all this down for the peasant class and twisted it, and it became; entities of angels and demons, that guide you.

            The Soul is always at war with itself, between your spirit and animal, she is full of fear and loathing. And probably very soon, worthy of judgment in a peoples court. Sentence to be carried out immediately at the closest cherry tree.

        • she is a reincarnated nazi oven-stuffer.

          • Feinswine wants to disarm conservative White rural Americans because she and her ilk consider THEM to be “nazis.” Look to the Communist murderers of the CheKa, GPU, NKVD for a more apt comparison to (and probably actual relatives of) Feinswine.

            From the “Jewish Young Adults” website:

            “Every so often a Jewish Elder or Jewish Adult will make a mark with the average Jewish Young Adult. Two such examples are the dynamic duo of Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, the twin Democratic Senators from California, and also both Hadassah members (allegedly)… Both are also known for their unwavering support for Israel, and have been given the esteemed title of “Good for the Jews” (as opposed to Bernie Madoff, who is “Bad for the Jews”).

            “There are some Jewish Young Adults who devoutly follow the careers of both women, but most JYAs are supporters of DiFi and Babo simply because they like the concept of having a feisty Jewish Elder in the Capitol, putting the goyim in their place and making sure their staff all bring jackets in case it gets cold at night because you never know. For example, female JYA “Jessica” stated about Boxer “Oh my god! I love her! Wait, isn’t she like a mayor or something?”

            “Whether or not they agree with Feinstein or Boxer’s policy, and whether or not they even know what their policies actually are, JYAs are universally proud of their elder Jewish stateswomen. Even the most ardently right wing JYA will admit they are glad that two distinctive MOTs are representing in DC.”


      120. Push comes to shove… I hope the power grid does not go down nation wide.

        • thats the first thing that should be taken down

        • I would bet the web comes down first right after the next, and likely massive, false flag. The power grid is too useful in order to keep the TV’s blaring the disinfo. With the internet hamstrung, the mainstream media will have free reign over the sheeple in order to sell the final chapter.


      122. UN troops… boy would they be in for a rude awakening! No one would tolerate that. It really would be on then! Good article, I agree that I don’t want any trouble but if it’s trouble they want well then bring it, I am not a man without skills. Would rather live in peace but…

      123. @Ahab ~ I too, have been very familiar with this
        principal for years. I cover up one side of the face with either a piece of paper or I use my hands. I do this with a favorite actor that I like at times.
        Body language and facial expressions and handwriting analysis fascinate me.

      124. this is one ugly stinking khazar jew pumpkin head, she will go to jail and you in the military better stand down against the american citizenry, if not you will all be charged with treason and held accountable under the law of the land, not the illegal laws that have been passed.

      125. Are at a point yet where a Constitutional Convention is more dangerous to our liberties than the present trajectory of our federal and state governments?

        Given that 30/50 states have Republican governors and given that any product of a Convention must be ratified by a supermajority of the States that want to join the new union, I would say that those who are committed to a peaceful resolution to this tyranny still have this avenue left to pursue.

        • Thank you The BuckWheat…
          I have been trying to put forward, that the several states COULD take power from Washington legally, peacefully, and there wouldn’t be a thing they could do… except send troops.

          DK, and most, are convinced that the two party system would take it over, and thus, the Banksters would get what they want; A communist manifesto in drag. NO BoR, and a Bill of ‘Positive rights’.

          Dk could be right. We are probably toast, and looking at CWII or Revolution 2.0

      126. The Statist Left OWNS the media and the message. Normal avenues of recourse are no longer available. The Constitutionalists (anti-Statists) cannot persuade the electorate because the media give them no voice. Without a voice, the Constitutionalists have no way of winning through the electoral process.

        What does this mean, in the end? Well, just look at what a government, unfettered by the watchdogs turned lapdogs, is willing to do. Obamacare. Refusal to enforce immigration laws. “Recess” appointments, which, when they are overturned by a federal court, are denied and the court ignored. Running guns into Mexico, resulting in the deaths of hundreds, covered up for many months, and still denied and lied about. Slaughter in Benghazi blamed on a totally unrelated film, lied about, covered up from 11 Sep of 2012, and still denied and lied about. It is a govt that will do whatever it wants whenever it wants.

        So, 2016. Do you honestly think Obama will step down? If he does, it will be only for a hand-selected successor (what was the 60 Minutes 69 all about last night if not for Obama to name his successor (sorry Joe)?). And if he does, it will only be because the UN has elevated its highest office to that of “Dear Leader” of the New World Order and offered the job to Obama. From Master of a sick and cowering U.S. to Master of the World?

      127. The funny thing with Laws, they only work if everybody voluntarily obeys them. If everybody disobeys them, the Government can’t do anything, they can’t lock up the entire country because their would be no economy. If they fined people, you simply refuse to pay it, leading back to you can’t lock up the entire country. The Law works by Intimidation, and some people will be threatened by it and just obey it for fear of being fined or locked up.

        United we stand, divided we fall. It won’t take many to fail, my guess probably as low as 10% that cave.

        Nobody knows this better than the Banks, which is why they continue to break laws every single day.

      128. The funny thing with Laws, they only work if everybody voluntarily obeys them. If everybody disobeys them, the Government can’t do anything, they can’t lock up the entire country because their would be no economy. If they fined people, you simply refuse to pay it, leading back to you can’t lock up the entire country. The Law works by Intimidation, and some people will be threatened by it and just obey it for fear of being fined or locked up.

        United we stand, divided we fall. It won’t take many to fail, my guess probably as low as 10% that cave.

        Nobody knows this better than the Banks, which is why they continue to break laws every single day.

      129. “To murder us in the thousands – perhaps millions this time”. Really? This site is paranoid trash, painting unrealistically extreme scenarios to fill its readers with fear.

        • Truth?
          You need to read history my friend.
          Your Dear Leader and his hoard of those who sing the song of ‘sweet words’ always turns bitter in the belly.
          This is the meaning of the 2nd amendment, to defend our selves from people SUCH AS YOU. Evidently you were in the class of INDOCTRINATED instead of EDUCATED, in civics, philosophy and history. Nah, you learned how to be a good little sheep. Once they take the 2nd, all other rights go out the window, including YOURS.

          Now go back to your little troll cave.


          NOT THIS TIME.
          NOT ONE MORE INCH.

          F*ing truth?
          Here is truth,
          Molon Labe

      130. If confiscation goes down in New York since it the only state that’s pushed out this feces, erh, set of edicts violating the Constitution, we can expect the first instances done with surprise and speed, a multi-agency task force using overwhelming force to break the will of the people. Intimidate them and make them believe they must submit, preached and supported by good little reporting hacks in the media who will tow this line.

        Fed assault teams make the raid, State police provide perimeter security, with local police further out securing area and get the public’s ire. This is how normally works for such raids, like was done on Hutaree in lower Michigan and NW Indiana.

        In NY can envision a complete lockdown of roadways of certain large swath of neighborhood with armor, such as armored personal carriers, and air support, choppers, drones. Counter-sniper teams. Riot police guarding flanks. Probably include national guard. Perhaps some crowd control sonic blasters, or electronic jamming gear to cut off all your phone calls.

        So they will most likely be successful at first; however, if there is an innocent killed, any innocent, defending his or her natural God given rights of self-defense and bearing arms, then Just War cause has been initiated. Wait for the tyrants to begin the killing. Negotiation is then officially over. As the Justice Department has been warned, there will be no more free Wacos.

        In attack on any NY citizen is attack on us all. Travel plans could also be considered but local is better for off the grid sometimes.

        For example during the 90’s after Ruby Ridge, Waco, the Justice Department and fusion centers down below in the planning rooms got some reality checks on any more rash behavior they had to ponder over from your friendly neighborhood Constitutional militias.

        In feeling out this tension, the Feds were sent out to AZ for example for discussion with a local militia, asking basically what would happen if there were another ‘incident’ like Waco, what would be the response, “would u storm D.C.?”

        The reply was “Why should we go all the way out to D.C. when a bunch of you Fed @$$(^%#$ are right over here.”

        This unsettling info gave them pause, with further consequences to ponder.

      131. KySSG, I’ve been having the same problem with .22LR here in Memphis. All local gun shops, sporting goods stores, even Wallyworld, are out of it and they all tell me ‘on back order until Feb./March. Had a gun show here on 12th-13th; 4 vendors were here with ammo; bought 2 bricks of .22 while the getting was good. been stocking up on .22 since September. Another gun show coming here this weekend, Feb. 2nd and 3rd; getting some more ammo at that one, also. I think what’s happened is other people have discovered the true versatility of .22LR and are also stocking up. I also know what you mean about talking to co-workers about what’s happening. I get the same reaction so i just stopped bringing it up. They’ll just ave in; won’t last long after TSHTF. braveheart

      132. Diane Feinstein Very dissapointed in your disregard to trash the 2nd amendment. You are trying to trample over hard working law abiding Americans. So Shame on you Diane Feinstein, Shame on you!!!!!

      133. A New Pledge of Allegiance

        I pledge allegiance
        to the Bill of Rights
        of the United States Constitution
        and to the freedoms
        it enumerates and defines
        Many people
        in the common cause
        of liberty and justice for all

        Remember: Inalienable rights cannot be taken away nor can they be surrendered. Prepare to defend your life, liberty, and property. And the truth shall set you free.

        • I pledge allegiance to the flag of these united States of America,
          and to the Republic for which it stood,
          one confederation,
          under God,
          with liberty and justice for all.

      134. People they have shown their hand; it’s time for us to start organizing ourselves into groups of like minded individuals to prepare and train, to formulate plans, to target those who will undoubtedly give the orders to take us out. There is only one thing left to do and that is to wait for that Concord Bridge moment when they make their move…then our actions will simply be self-defense against a tyrannical government and not treason against our country.

      135. I support the 2nd Amendnent, but I think your position is extreme. By God’s grace, It won’t come to that. Too many people are praying and working to prevent it.

      136. All gun grabbers are OUTLAWS. They hate the law, especially the US supreme law, the Constitution. If they were NOT OUTLAWS they would be proposing an outright repeal of the 2nd amendment according to constitutional process, but no, they know that won’t fly, so they are willing to incite violence against we the people, who are the lawful civil authority in our counties with our lawfully elected sheriffs.
        That makes them Seditionists. The definition of sedition is “to incite violence against the lawful civil authority”. It’s a felony crime. They should be arrested and charged with sedition the instant they throw any anti 2nd amendment bill in the hopper. It is NOT possible to change, abrogate, or replace the 2nd amendment with a mere statute. There is a constitutional process to do it lawfully. Get real everyone. These people are criminals, and need to be in jail the very instant they even PROPOSE such so called “laws”, which are all null and void from their inception, and don’t give me any crap about the so called “corporate government”. It was all done with fraud, deception, threat, duress, coercion, and intimidation, which makes all their contracts UNILATERAL, making them all null and void also. NONE OF THIS WILL STAND BEFORE GOD. They are all liars, and the blind, leading the blind, and they will all fall in the pit of hell for doing this.

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