Watch Nancy Pelosi Lie Through Her Teeth: “I Don’t Remember Saying that Everybody in the Country Would Have a Lower Premium”

by | Jun 7, 2013 | Headline News | 253 comments

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    Just a few weeks ago the honorable Congresswoman from San Francisco, Nancy Pelosi, made the stunning claim that health insurance in America would be cheaper than ever before. “Many of the initiatives that he passed are what are coming to bear now, including the Affordable Care Act,” she said at a recent press conference about legislation championed by the President. “The Affordable Care Act is bringing the cost of health care in our country down in both the public and private sector.”

    Of course, days later we found out what the future of  “affordable” health care and lower costs actually meant, when the IRS admitted that prices would top $20,000 per year for the average American family.

    It seems that these are the ramifications for passing a sweeping overhaul of the U.S. health care industry without having first read the bill to find out what was in it.

    Now that we know government mandated ObamaCare will actually cost Americans at all income levels significantly more than was promised by the President and Congressional democrats, Nancy Pelosi is back peddling on her statements, claiming that she and the bill’s supporters never said there’d be lower premiums.

    Well, some people don’t have health insurance and they’ll certainly have their health insurance premiums go up [laughs] because they don’t have any health insurance now, so they don’t have any premiums now.

    But for anyone that that is a challenge, there are subsidies in the exchanges.

    And, it’s also about what you get for your money. In other words, people will be getting no lifetime or annual limits on their coverage, no discrimination because of pre-existing medical conditions… it has a whole array of quality that is in the legislation.

    But if you don’t have health insurance and you don’t qualify for a subsidy… and you’re mandated to have health insurance, you won’t have an increase.

    We’re very sensitive to what it means to young people, especially to young singles. And, umm, there are policies that people can get.

    I don’t remember saying that everybody in the country will have a lower premium, because everybody in the country doesn’t have health insurance so how could it be lower.

    But the fact is, the value of what you get for the cost that you pay, is a reduction in cost to you.

    …for everybody it is going to be a liberation, a freedom.

    …and if you’re a small business. What this means for small business. It is… it is…umm… it’s uh… it’s a solution for the American people. It lowers cost.

    Nancy Pelosi is absolutely right.

    Obamacare, which will be enforced at the barrel of a gun, is freedom!

    It’s a liberation… of your money from your wallet, to be spent on Nancy’s mile high booze-it-up plane junkets and subsidies for her district that will enrich her colleague Diane Feinstein’s personal net worth.

    What’s worse is that the people of San Francisco and the greater United States remain oblivious to how they just got raped by this woman, her cronies in Congress and the health care industrial complex.

    Nancy Pelosi belongs in prison, not on the floor of the United States Congress.

    Watch the video – if you’ve got the stomach for it:

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      1. Since she arrived on the scene,
        I cannot stand that woman.
        She is stupid and insipid.
        She thinks the American people are
        dumb and anything the despot
        administration can railroad upon
        the U.S. citizens they do so.

        • Until we get rid of the Two Party system nothing will change.

          This is why we have politicians instead of statesman.

          • Why is it Democrats are so dumb they support their Party no matter what? Just because the moron is a Democrat they all rally around her. Such closed little minds.

            No different than the Republicans.

            • Don’t ever believe that the democrats got us here on their own. Both parties are all pigs and feed from the same trough. Only a fool would think the republicans are ant better.

              • No Repbulican in the House or Senate voted for Obamacare. It was a partisan vote 100%. Care to revise your statement?

                • @Gary

                  It’s true… “No Repbulican in the House or Senate voted for Obamacare.”

                  No… Republicans voted “nay” for political reasons only. Not because ObamaCare was unconstitutional!

                  The Republicans knew they didn’t have the votes to stop the “Affordable Care Act” from passing.

                  Republican “no” votes on the legislation were a free pass… A free vote. It gave them cover.

                  The Republicans, over time, my attempt to repeal certain elements of ObamaCare, but make no mistake: The Republicans are in favor of a “National Health Care” system. A system that feeds their Crony friends at your expense.

                  You’re just a dupe who thinks otherwise!

                  • The Republicans voted for cloture to end debate so the bill could be voted on. Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison was the vote that put the Obamacare bill over the top and up for a floor vote. Why do you think this great Republican douche-bag Senator didn’t run again?

                  • YOUarewrongsogofuckyourmother says:

                    “The Republicans voted for cloture to end debate so the bill could be voted on. Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison was the vote that put the Obamacare bill over the top and up for a floor vote. Why do you think this great Republican douche-bag Senator didn’t run again?”

                    ???Say What???

              • Oh so right you are Knotjammin2,

                She needs to be shackled right along with all the rest of those so called leaders. They are nothing more than bought and paid for shills so the continuation of the raping of America and it’s people runs it course till there is nothing left for tptb to consume!
                But, the apathetic sheep stand grazing on the koolaid induced gmo grasses not knowing that slowly they will be led to the slaughter house of destitution.
                When everything comes crumbling down around the sheep, then they will turn into lemmings running towards what they think will be their savior?
                Our Government has an infestation of rats.

                B Aware, B Awake, B Alive

              • This woman belongs in jail for malfeasance in office!

                • I think she belongs in a casket. Looks like she died 10 years ago….

            • I want my free stuff…..thats why. Cut of all hand outs except for the REAL needy, and we would have a different country.

              • Start with the corporate welfare subsidies and tax evasion. That is where the biggest waste and corruption lies. The biggest, most profitable companies paid NO taxes, or less than 10% taxes last year.

                Like Apple, Exxon, and GE.

                • durango kidd says:

                  “Like Apple, Exxon, and GE.”

                  Apple, Exxon, and GE ARE the State.

                  It’s called Fascism.

                  You can’t tax the Establishment.

                  Only the serfs.

          • When she said “you have to pass the bill to know what’s in it” told me all I needed to know about this woman.

            We are living in scary times….better get prepared.
            physically and MENTALLY!

            • Agree Tina.
              Mac, she should be in a funny farm. Shouldn’t you have titled her ‘ dishonorable congresswoman’?

            • Our insurance agent has informed me the company health insurance with United Healthcare is going up 38% come the September 1st Renewal. Never seen anything like this. Never.

            • Tina – Yes, it was then I knew that botox destroys brain cells.

            • Obamacare Sticker Shock; Expect Insurance Premiums to Soar; Aetna CEO Says Some Rates Will Double

              “Although President Obama repeatedly claimed that health-insurance premiums for a family would be $2,500 lower by the end of his first term, they are actually about $3,000 higher—a spread of about $5,500 per family.”

              “Health insurance premiums may as much as double for some small businesses and individual buyers in the U.S. when the Affordable Care Act’s major provisions start in 2014, Aetna Inc. (AET)’s chief executive officer said.”

              “Residents of Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah, Wyoming and Virginia will likely see the largest increases — somewhere between 65% and 100%. Another 18 states, including Texas and Michigan, could see their rates rise between 35% and 65% says Journal writers Merrill Matthews and Mark Litow.”

              Global Economic Analysis blogspot

              • Could 2014 awaken the sleeping American citizens from their trance induce slumber of being fed nothing, but a complete line of utter BS???

                Time is running short to realize the great deception. Resistance is not futile!!!!!!

                B Aware, B Awake, B Alive
                Never shutter your mind from thinking outside the box.

                • soapdish,

                  I wish my fellow sleeping American citizens would awaken TODAY. 2014 seems too long out for me…

          • Let’s face it, this monster masquerading as a woman can say and do whatever the hell she wants, who is going to stop her? No one, that’s who. They are on a train that has no stops in site, they are out of control and until they run over every decent aspect left in our lives, they will not be stopped.

            I could never have imagined that such evil and arrogance would become the leading force in the United States of America. We are now living under a complete dictatorship and most are going along willingly. Vile, evil and demonic monsters are now running the country with a free reign.

            Job numbers mean nothing any more, scandals in the white house have no affect on their power, those in power can lie to your face and walk away thinking they smell sweet as a rose. There is no conscience in Washington, there are no consequences for their actions against humanity. The people have spoken by not speaking against them. We are doomed as a free society and there are no more heroes.

            I can just imagine how monstrous the PTB children are going to be when they become adults. They will be touted as royalty and I can guarantee you they will be ruthless, evil and twice as determined to keep control over the dumb little sheeple.

            What are we handing our children?

            • Communism, that’s what the commies handed the children.

              The union of soviet socialist republics saw one form of communism. china has another, as does cuba, korea, venezuela, and most other countries.

              Now the USSA has its version of communism, formed over a hundred years.

              Fifty percent commies, most of the other half, cowards.

              A bludgeon works better than a noodle. Red thumb it, commies.

          • “honorable Congresswoman”

            Typo Mac, I think you meant dishonorable, nothing she has done is honorable. Now if she were to resign, that would be honorable.

            • Actually, I think he meant to type “horrible”.

          • It’s a 1-party state with two factions of elites. They are not interested in your opinion, only your obedience.

            WeAreLegion

        • You’re not alone Emily. Maybe one day these morons will find themselves quivering in bunkers with shame like there idols have throughout history looking to take the cowards way out! History has been known to repeat itself. Guess time will tell.

          • Thank you buzzfix. I am glad I am not the only one in the
            rowboat. You are right about History repeating itself.

        • @Emily

          The truth is, Americans by in large are addled, ignorant children, who need to be told what to do, and how to think.

          The DC Santa Claus says it will mandate “Affordable Care”, and Boobus Americanus believes it.

          Why? Because their loving government overlords said so. And they wouldn’t lie!

          • Agreed~!

          • Agreed~!

        • Emily
          it appears we are dumb because those idiots are still in office raking in millions ever day of our money

          snake

          • Hi Snake~! You, and the people here are not dumb.
            People here, (the Minority) have 100% knowledge of what is going on. Knowledge is awareness and power.
            The idiots in office may be doing so now, but I feel
            many are getting fed up and clued in, and things will
            change. I don’t know what the straw will be to break the camels back, but ‘its a-coming.’ Stay safe and well.

        • The is the same woman that echoed “in order to find OUT what’s IN the bill you first HAVE to PASS the BILL”.

          And meanwhile China just bought Smithfield’s pork producers and has been gobbling up our land. We have with a few exceptions a collective bunch of corrupt and incompetent federal lawmakers taking this country into the abyss.

          We are already a Banana Republic. Just wait till the SHTF when people who are already stretched to their limits have to in some cases (family of 5) fork over 20K for health insurance or have to pay a $2500 fine.

          Meanwhile China laughs at our incompetence looking to steal our military secrets, buying our companies and our land, making the YUAN the world reserve currency that’s backed by gold. All the while watching us implode as a Nation.

          It’s really sickening. I’m truly glad i’m in my mid 50’s cause it’s going to get real ugly for the up and coming generation and it’s only going to get worse.

          • I wonder how many people refusing to pay the fine it would take to crash the system.
            The downside risk for a person grows smaller every day.
            Let’s face it, if they want to lock you up, they’ll make up any reason to do so and nobody can stop it.
            At some point, perhaps not too far off, it simply makes more sense to die and get out of here than to be locked into this insane prison camp for year after year.
            I see less and less reason to get up in the morning, only to witness an unstoppable flood of bullsh*t, coming from all directions.

            • I’ve read and heard especially on talk radio that the fine is really non enforceable, i.e. that can’t lock you up or garnish your wages. My landlord just so happens to be an IRS agent and a really nice person on top of that so I can ask her when the time comes.

              I did ask her about the penalty for non compliance and she said the agents were not aware of how much it would cost the person who disobeyed Obamacare and wanted to pay the tax for not purchasing healthcare.

        • I hate to put forth the obvious, but the only thing that is more stupid and insipid are the dumb S.O.B.’s that keep electing her.

        • I agree Emily. She makes my skin crawl. I just threw up in my mouth before I even watched the video.

          • Lol, thats quite a visual! 😉

        • So far it seems that she is indeed correct. The American people are in fact morons and this bitch will be in Congress until she quits or they carry her out. Worth well over a hundred million bucks and while getting union money all her businesses are non union with many illegals for the work force. She is a real piece of work but she gets to laugh all the way to the bank.

        • “We have to pass it to know what’s in it.” Is she on drugs or what?!? That is the quote she will be remembered for.

        • & just what were you expecting from a low-life mafia brat…her father Tom was Mafia … her Uncle Nick was Mafia … & now she’s going to make Trillions for Mafia in the Vati……….. 😡

      2. The New American Czar–Ugly.

        Americans, I know you cannot understand how I became elected as czar POTUS. Yes, I had a 95% disapproval rating, yet I got 100% of vote. First and foremost, thanks for your vote. Your vote counted and thanks. We will rebuild this USA one FEMA coffin at a time….

        To earn your trust, I have chosen as Vice Pres a person from IRS. He has earned your trust thru confiscation. You need to thank him each and every day. He worked hard. He is with you all day long. He watches your spending, savings, and investing. He will let you know what is right and what is wrong. He is your friend.

        And for Secretary of State, I have chosen a former Peace Maker and Mutual Funds scam salesperson. Yes, we know he took a trillion from SSN, but he has promised me he is sorry. He said he was sorry the other day.

        Now I know you folks are mad cause only one station on radio. And yes, I am on it 24 7s. No matter where you dial, its ME!!!! But I have much to say.

        Now on the Chip. Don’t worry. This Chip brings comfort and safety. It will tell you when to walk, when to duck, and when to hide. It will tell you when to buy and when to sell. You see, no riches and no poverty–we are One!

        Now on rumors.

        There are no rumors. Stay inside, while we do the work. One FEMA coffin at a time….

      3. it makes you want to gather them all up and take them over into iran and turn them loose just the clothes on thier back ,and thats being nice. i’v seen whats coming for a while now and its not lookin good for us and there is no turning back so just buckle your seatbelt and hang on!! and whats that other bitchs name nancy pelosi what ever she makes me sick to my stomuch.

        • Why spend all of that money deporting them. It won’t work. Look at how fast deported illegals turn around and reenter the country. No, something permanent and cheap would do just fine.

          GOOD MORNING NSA, EFFU

          • We need a Final Solution. Germans were right.

      4. It’s gonna be a complete disaster guaranteed. What was it again more than half the population still can’t afford the payments. The name should be changed to the F****d Up Care Act! That sounds better to my ear.

        • buzzfix- Obamacare is supposed to be a disaster , it was never ment to work . it was designed to fail so a single payer system can be installed , we will never go back to private insurance again . all those private insurance companies will (are) going to be nothing more that private /public partnerships like every other industry.

          this is the road to fscism ( fast track ).

          • @hammerhead:

            Ding! Post of the day. You’re absolutely right.

            Now thanks to PRISM, bend over and get ready for your IRS audit.

            And to celebrate the 64th anniversary of the release of 1984: “The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed–would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper–the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you.” – George Orwell, 1984

            Mal

          • The IRS runing health care. What could go wrong?

        • ‘Obamacare’ alternative: health-sharing ministries offered a way out

          Ixquick it–it’s legal and it’s working.

      5. Maybe you don’t remember it, but you said it, nevertheless. You can run, but you can’t hide. Elections are in 2014. Goodbye.

        • @Smokey,
          Eh I don’t know? The Sh** may hit the fan. Elections aren’t until November 2014 this chip Bullsh** with Obummer’s F****d Up Care Act are set to take effect January 2014. We may not have time for civilized politics. Just saying. We The People may, have to suspend the Constitution ourselves to take care of a few things.

          • @buzzfix,

            WRONG, NEVER, AND I MEAN NEVER SUSPEND THE CONSTITUTION.

            Now and then we may take matters into our own hands, but, then again, NEVER suspend the Constitution. They are already acting as if it has been suspended and look what we have as a result.

            GOOD MORNING NSA, EFFU

        • there is no elections, just selections. TPTB will throw in a few RINO’s this cycle to cool us down.

      6. What our government lied to us. No way.

        Side note. I am going to my friend’s (24 Years active Service) funeral tomorrow that died in a “training” accident.
        A few of his team mates are flying in from someplace that starts with a J for it.
        I hope I might get to hear some Fictional thoughts they are having. I understand revenge is the order of business for my friends teammates. And they only have 3 days before they must be back

        • @Facebook,
          Sorry about your friend. Just remember when it hits, Keep a round with you for some sorry sumbitch and dedicate that shot to your friend! Friends come and go but, we never forget them.

          • Good trusted friends are in short supply. Thank you for your thought. I will leave the revenge to his younger team mates. But if I had the chance again.

      7. I will NEVER comply with any of this.

        • Kulafarmer says:

          “I will NEVER comply with any of this.”

          Exactly!

          Thats how this thing can be beaten back!!

          Withdraw your consent. Don’t comply!

          I too will never comply with any of this.

          AN UNJUST LAW IS NO LAW AT ALL!

      8. I will NEVER comply with any of this.
        GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH

        • I have a feeling they will give you death.

          • Maybe so Facebook… but better to die on your feet than live on your knees!

            Many of us will not submit and obey.

            Sheep will.

            • The visual I get of a person on their knees and a mention of sheep is too much.

              • Sorry, forgot to add:
                GOOD MORNING NSA, EFFU

          • They can try…..Not everyone is a sheep, some are sheepdogs

          • So be it,
            Dont care, i will NEVER comply.

        • Make that “Give me liberty or…else.”

      9. I CAN NOT STAND PELOSI!!!! AND YES, I’M USING CAPITALS AND YES I’M SCREAMING IT!!! Sorry, just needed to vent…..

        • Embrace the caps lock key. It feels good, doesn’t it?

      10. That’s the beauty of it, for the left, one way or another you will comply, or you will be in jail. You are forced, either you pay the money for the health care, or you give your money to the IRS or you go to jail, either of the first two are complying,one way or another your paying “your share” so someone else “less fortunate” doesn’t have to pay their own all on their own

        • “your (you meant you’re )paying “your share” so someone else “less fortunate” doesn’t have to pay their own all on their own”

          Ah, were it that simple.

          You’re paying for two things:

          1. A hefty increase in the profits of the health care industry, whose lobbyists wrote the bill our CongressCritters never bothered to read.

          OR

          2. A tax increase so the FED….that private banking cartel…..can be paid the interest on all the ‘money’ they have created from thin air over the last few years to keep the game going.

          Heads they win, and tails they win.

          • Thanks for the correction, writing has never been one of my strong points.I can’t say that I disagree with anything you say, your just going deeper into what I was trying to say, that is after all what socialism is about, taking from many and putting it into the hands of the few. However, they can’t just say that or people would revolt, much easier to tell people it’s for the common good.

          • They are also putting a new coding system into effect. This is how the government pays providers for services. A heads up was given to all providers to have atleast a years operating cash on hand because most claims are expected to be coded wrong because this system is more advanced. This is the reason hospitals are closing and regionalizing.

            Watch your 6

        • E…Actually, there are no criminal penalties for nonpayment of the ACA penalty. There are also no property liens applied for nonpayment. However, the IRS can keep any refunds of tax you are due to satisfy nonpayment. If you plan on non compliance, you should change your W-4 so you have no refund.
          The $20,000 example given is for a family that has an income of $120,000. Their penalty for not participating would be $200 a month. In my view, this example is not typical of most of the posters here and is meant to get a hysterical reaction. I don’t support the ACA or the criminal corrupt government…but then again, I already have an insurance plan that sucks.

          • I think you are on to something here. However, when I think long term I am wondering if the IRS can “get you” when you die by hitting your estate with the accumulated non payments of penalties, interest, and assorted other charges? If so, might the answer be a revocable trust?

            • Sorry, forgot to add:
              GOOD MORNING NSA, EFFU

              they’re not worth the keystrokes, make that EFFU NSA

            • Mordecai…I think a trust of some type is probably always good if you have property value. I think the IRS would need a lien to attach any estate, trust or not. I followed Mac’s link back through several blogs to get to the original IRS doc and it said no liens would be attached for penalties. So, I guess you can take their word for it… or not. I’m sure they wouldn’t fib. (sarc)

            • My grandfather didn’t leave an “estate.” He told me he didn’t want anyone fighting over what he left, so he spent hell out of it. I helped him by taking him on a long trip when he was 89, and he paid all the expenses. When it was all over, most of his children were in the hole a little bit from paying the funeral expense.

              So the answer might be that you don’t leave an estate for the IRS to charge.

            • Mordecai…. I don’t want to give the corp. bas-turds any ideas about how to keep the Death Tax flowing, but everything over the limit will be handed out in Gold, Silver, and Guns. If they want to put a lean on my estate then other creative measures will be taken.

        • From what I just read elsewhere:
          Regardless of your politics, it will be fascinating and somewhat scary to see the rosy projections of Obamacare totally under estimated.
          The average annual household income in the US was around $49,000 (2009).
          So the government would SUBSIDIZE 83% OF THE PREMIUMS!! With millions of American Households, that can easily equal trillions.

          Nice plan, Pelosi and friends. This is nothing but part of a plan to totally destroy our economy.

          • and at this moment, we are borrowing 46 cents of every dollar at a blended interest of around 2% on the 15 trillion we owe.. How long do you think we are going to be able to borrow more money to fund this all the other largesse the gov’t can think off…

            • Borrow funny money from china, they print it faster than the commies in ussa. Circle jerk, commies love it. Some say ponzi, commies, says I.

            • I’ve still not seen a good analysis.
              Estimation using debt avalanche: “If I make $40K per year but spend $50K per year, how long can I stay out of bankruptcy?” Forever if your uncle runs the bank.
              So, Estimation using breaking point of the populace: USA Net Asset ~$100T. Theft/debt-printing loss of say $5T/year. “If I have $100,000 house and its losing $5,000 per year, how long until I sell”. Only a year or two for sure: so, people are getting out of the scheme.
              Two things make these calculations really hard. The first is the USA is bankrupt and it doesn’t matter. Even the ratings agencies still rate them highly. “Bankruptcy 1995” kept me from investing and I could have been rich if I hadn’t, like Figgie, believed in reason and responsibility.
              The second is the populace is already adjusting. Just as TPTB try to corner in the people, the people are already moving their assets, income streams, and activities out of the reach of the elites. The collapse of the policitians could come sooner rather than later as the working, value-producing populace divorces itself from a system which favors graft, dishonesty, and laziness. A few years ago a Russian guy told me people were moving here just to be on Welfare!
              I don’t think we can say when the ponzi scheme will implode. I guess when it runs out of new entrants. At this point there is still significant asset value in the USA to be destroyed/transferred. New laws/judgements/fees would need to be enacted to extract more from the private sector and fund the federal beast and its masters. Since the banking cartel creates debt from nothing and then loans it to the politicians; then the only thing stopping this system is how much value the Americans are willing to lose. Will they go from $100T in 2013 dollars to $95T in 2013 dollars this year. Yes!
              I find oil stoppage, a general pandemic, war, or natural event as likely as economic collapse. I think the economic SHTF is already here if you’re not on the taking end of this gov-bank ponzi sheme. In that case, I think value production is more valuable than hoarding. Being able to produce something next year is very valuable as asset values drop due to inflation. I guess that’s why everyone bought gold.
              P.S> The $5T doesn’t disappear: it goes into the bank accounts of TPTB. That’s why Keynes has been called the greatest economist of the 20th century – he figured out how to argue that the rich people should get free money as a way to help the poor. If you don’t believe how corrupt he was, just take a look at two institutions he founded: the World Bank and the IMF. Their track records speak of nationalized debt slavery. Sadly this one man created an academic argument for the scam of market economies turning into socialist economies.

      11. They just keep squeezing the freedom out of us don’t they. The twin harpies, pelosi and feinsteinless want a BO run police state so desperately. I guess you can throw in boxer also from the state of california. What happened to that state? I mean it use to be a state that was similar to the wild west and much more free. Now it has become as bad or worse than new york. The disease of anti-freedom sure spreads doesn’t it.

        By the way about feinsteinless. I started to feel real sorry for it’s husband. To actually have to look into that Medusa’s face and not turn to stone, to have to hear that bashee’s shrill voice, to have to touch that iguana skin. I mean you have to really pity the poor guy. We are talking some serious ugly here.

        • Pelosi, Feinstein,Boxer the three wicked witches of the west…Add in a little Thompson the little “follower” and No Cal is one big mess………..yet these idiots keep voting them in and they have all gotten rich over the years….

          • The state has 41% illegals and about 20% “wheres my free stuff” . they vote democrap or rino.

          • That’s what you get when they have a solid commie base.

            • “That’s what you get when they have a solid commie [STATIST] base.”

        • You want to know what happened to California? Immigration,the rest just followed like shit running down hill.

        • Just look at that poor guy thinking Money will buy Happiness. In his case he may be thinking that he can jam that “Camel” through the eye of a needle.

      12. She is dummer than a bag of hammers!

        • Dumb?

          Oh no, she’s not in the least bit dumb.

          Underestimating the enemy will bite you in the ass every time.

      13. Where’s my glass o Kool-aid? Gonna need a big bolt of Smirnoff to get to the point of believing that load-o-horseshit. I think that was the Polosi dementia side slide, Translation; I hope somebody believes this bunch of crap, maybe if I smile like an idiot and look like I’m having a stroke that might work. Personally; I think she should increase her prescription, a LOT!!

      14. What do you get when you cross a bulldog with Nancy Pelosi?
        Nothing. There are some things even a bulldog won’t do.

        • Okie! Welcome back, we were all very worried about you. Should have known Pelosi would bring you back. We missed you.

          • Hey Okie, fmr cal girl is right. Hasn’t been the same here without you. Hope all is well with you and your family.

            • One of the absolute worst kommie dem zio antigun Bastards is dead. Frank Lautenberg. Now gov christy will appoint a new us senator to replace him. Likly another neocon rino zio like christy et al.

              A good plan for the next armed protest like texans had last week would be to gather where Lautenbergs Grave is located…Then PISS all over it!

        • “What do you get when you cross a bulldog with Nancy Pelosi?”

          Answer: Michelle Obama

        • Hey, I own an American bulldog and he doesn’t appreciate you comment. He doesn’t have balls so he’ll let it slide. :-

      15. can we all agree, finally, that the elements of this criminal government deserved to be arrested? i mean, really, what the hell constitutes treason anymore!!

        • bohica says:

          “i mean, really, what the hell constitutes treason anymore!!”

          Criticising your government is treason in Amerika!

          Didn’t you get the memo from the Washington District of Criminals?

      16. Heads up.

        Constitutional LEO Sheriff Nicholas Finch is under attack right now for upholding his Oath. This is important because the dispute is about the Supreme Law of this land. Does the Constitution have Supremacy? If you believe it DOES NOT then DISREGARD this post.

        If you believe as I do in this idea of a Constitutional Republic then you know why this is important. If we don’t back a man whom is willing to stand against unlawful usurpations and false laws that claim to trump the Constitution… well why would anyone who is in a simular circumstance risk their neck for such an ungrateful throng when it’s even more perilous times.

        This to me could be the very large rally point we need to build a Strong Point against any further incursions against our BILL OF RIGHTS. From here launch raids and havoc against the enemies camps and strongholds which with they have been assaulting WE THE PEOPLE. Let not this man’s stand be an Alamo to him. Don’t let these false authorities following illegal orders make him an example to the other LEOs that have sounded off that they will brook no agression against our Constitutional Liberties. Let us get him relief and liberty for his effort to do the same. Get the LEOs and Military with THE PEOPLE united under the Constitution and the Lord’s authority to arrest and pursue ALL OF THESE TRAITORS. To put their heads in the vise they have designed and purposed for us. We have the people in place. SUPPORT THEM.

        Any ideas for support/mobilization with the aim of being completely Victorious is welcome. To quote DK, “Engage.”

        http://www.infowars.com/florida-sheriff-arrested-after-defending-second-amendment/

        The Lord is Righteous.
        Standing by in Texas.

        • I have been voicing my opinion to senators, congress people and any Washington email I can find. I get the standard staffer reply, but they take notice; I have gotten several phone calls from each of their offices. They are all in this together, Dems and Repubs and independents. They are greedy, power-driven, elitists who will not stop until all people are in bondage. We must support those few people who stand for freedom as did our revolutionary forefathers; no matter what background, religion or culture they come from. We all have “trouble maker” stamped on our files.

          • Thank you for your efforts patientmomma.

        • I love 2nd ammendment rights but this LEO was in the wrong. The guy had 2 concealed firearms on his person in a vehicle. I live in a very pro-gun state but this would have been an arrest here also so its not just Florida. That cop was asking for trouble when he let the perp. go. If this guy wanted to carry 2 guns without a permit he probably wasn’t an upstanding citizen to being with or something is missing from the story… Ex. (relative/supporter)

          • …shall not be infringed. If exercising a Right makes you a perp, I am lost as to your saying “I love 2nd Amendment rights”. If the mere possession of 2 firearms that are out of view is a crime then the real question is ‘what do you love about the 2nd’.

            If the Constitution is the Law for containment of Government Powers that cannot be superceded by contrary laws, what does it matter what the speculated relationship of the Sheriff and the ‘perp’ is?

            Are Rights which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle to the Sons and Daughters of Liberty negotiable? Anything suborning servitude/subjection is alien to Patriots.

            “…probably wasn’t an upstanding citizen…” What do you do that we could view to yourself with the same scorn? By your own standards we should make whatever law and as many contrary laws, so that we could put yourself to the stocks, bars, and gallows at whim. You would cry for the very things you would deny to others. Limited Powers of Government.

            • Sorry bud but I would prefer criminals not having firearms. Any upstanding citizen can legally obtain one. Sometimes you have to understand when u commit crimes you forfit some of your right because of the decisions you make. Remember how the Bible says you have to live by the laws of the land.

              • …shall not be infringed. Nuff said.

              • Sorry bud but there is no legal way to remove a persons rights.

                “No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property eithout due process of law.”

                No mention of depriving a person of their rights.

                So explain how you are any differant than the gun grabbers in office. You think you get to decide who has the right to self defense and who does not? What makes you so special?

                • Sometimes you guys take things way too far. I guess you want every pervert, child mest, rapist, serial killer….etc. To be armed? Sorry but they don’t have the right for protection if they were convicted in a court of law.

                  • And here we see why things are the way they are.
                    So quickly some will sell out the rights of there fellow man.
                    So “if they were convicted in a court of law” they don’t deserve their rights?

                    Nice to know there are at least two of you who simply do not understand what a right is.

                    The day will come when you are “convicted” and people like yourself will gladly remove your rights. I doubt you will see the irony.

                  • Damn right I don’t want crack heads with guns. If your a criminal you forefit your right to a free existance. How about you start putting the blame on the guy carrying 2 illegal weapons and the cop that let him go. That was a stupid move on his part and he should’ve known better. But since he was on Alex Jones show he must have been a true Patroit… right (sarcasim)

                  • So you feel that it is correct to pick and choose who gets rights and who does not? Can you explain how, besides those on the list, what you want is any differant than the gun grabbers in congress today?

                    Am I suppose to think your tyranny is better than the one I live under today?

      17. Just got back to planet earth from my vacation. I must say, I’m disappointed that y’all haven’t already rebuilt after the crash, and hanged all the slimy politicians.
        Still, it was nice to unplug for a few days. Now, where do I sign up to join the revolution?…You are having a revolution, aren’t you?

        • Welcome back! Okie, lot of folks thought the tornados got you.

          • Dumb?

            Oh no, she’s not in the least bit dumb.

            Underestimating the enemy will bite you in the ass every time.

            • The above posted in the wrong place.

              Meant to address:

              “Welcome back! Okie, lot of folks thought the tornados got you.”

              Likely he gets the Internet in Oz.

        • They keep talking about it. They all seem to believe the other guy will stand up first.

          • “They”? Where do you stand FP?

            • Many here know where I stand. Today I will go bury my friend and deal with you later.

              • Sorry about your friend truly, but you dealing with me is sorta funny. I’m not the one you need to deal with! When you say “they” you imply you are different that we or I am. How do you know that? Are you going to be the first one to stand up and start shooting? Are you marching off to washington to make a stand? Are you going to start the revolution? I think lots of us would like to do all of the above but none of us would get very far on our own. TPTB would make any one person look like a nutjob and the MSM would tag right along. I’ve been around here long enough to know where you stand but don’t try and separate yourself into some sort of stand alone type hero. You won’t make it very far. I believe most of us here at Mac’s place are on the same side. Some of the comments are really quite silly though. There isn’t one person here alone that can stand up to the bullcrap coming out of washington. Can’t be done. We can all make bold statements sitting behind closed doors. I know I do once in awhile. We are all pissed and sick and tired of obama and his fucked up plans and secret agendas. We can type all day long but at the end we all feel trapped by our worthless government. I would love to see them all hanging by Kulafarmers thick rope he found in his shed. We would all like to see the ugly bitch pelosi have some shit forced down her throat or worse. We all just want to be left alone to live our lives in peace without always feeling like we’re being screwed in the ass by every politician that enters washington. We’re all tired of working so a bunch of fat worthless fucking black women can stay home and make $50,000.00 a year spewing out more of the same. We’re all tired!!!! When you figure out how to get around all this crap let me know. I’ll drop what I’m doing and drive, walk or whatever it takes to stand by your side.

                God Bless you Facebook Page and all of us here at Mac’s. I really am sorry about the loss of your friend. It’s hard to lose good friends. We are only blessed once in awhile with a truly good person we can call a friend. Loosing one hurts bad.

                On another note…

                There seems to be a handfull of “Bill’s” here. I don’t want to be confused with some of the comments that other “Bill’s” make. There are several at the bottom of the page now. If anyone gives a crap I will be changing my name after this post. If there are any other comments by “Bill” they won’t be from this one.

                Over and Out…

      18. You guys are being awfully harsh on her.

        She’s pretty obviously senile.

        • @AC

          Maybe “ObamaCare” has some use after all.

          Doesn’t it contain provisions and directives on how to “care” for old, useless, senile people?

          Ya… I believe “ObamaCare” mandates “End of Life” solutions.

      19. Nancy Pelosi reminds me of George W. Bush — I Can’t stand that woman.

        • Fool me once we won’t get fooled again.

        • Then why did you have his babies?

      20. That was about the most incoherent rambling statement I have ever heard.

      21. That old wrinkly assed bag-of-rags would make a buzzard vomit. Straight out of Baltimore City she is. Her ‘ol man, Thomas Delasandro would be proud. Damn shame they don’t keep migrating from Maryland to Californicate. We still got plenty here that needs to be run out astride a rail.

      22. it’s my contention that that every time her lips are moving she’s lying along with the other 534 individuals on Cap Hill… every last one of them is in it(gov’t) for any of the following reasons: power, money(including lifetime bennies, as well as bribes through lobbyists), sex, prestige… this includes the venerable Rep. Paul, Rep. Bachmann and all others… it matters not which side of “the aisle” they sit on… ALL, ALL, ALL others… none – absolutely zero of them have any integrity or concern for those whom they allegedly represent – except themselves…

        reckoning is coming – they’re pushing for it

        pray for the best while prepping for the worst

        III

        • The day of reckoning cant come fast enough Pastor

          • I am wondering if when Every Potential political candadit Must First take an obligatory Mandated Junket trip to israel, to wear a skull cap while banging their foreheads and thrusting their pelvic area against that wailling wall(nobody can wail like them eh). If perhaps what they do in Private while they go to several private meetings with various head Rabbi’s and Political honchos of israel, is maybe they secretly are Meeting the Antichrist guy. After all if these are indeed the last days era, then whoever the antichrist guy is Must be Alive now and for some time now right.

            And if what Many say that he shall Rule From that Bandit state, israel,is true then what better location to remain in Hideing untill that Fatefull day when he shall be revealed to the whole world.

            When one considers that most of usa polititions are very wealthy, many even Prior to seeking elective office, then one must wonder what Else besides More cash money can Posibly cause these folks to become so damn evil. As well as turn them into the absolute Worst Traitors to Our Nation, as well as many are Racial Traitors to Their own White Race(the black caucus too are race traitors to blacks but the vast Majority are still white).

            However if indeed the Real not as yet unveiled to the “entire” world Antichrist man is in fact Alive, and as he has to reside “somewheres” right, Just maybe He is who they meet with when in Private while doing their Mandated Kiss israel/jewish ass trip to be vetted for elections, and of course to recieve much needed MSM TV praises so the sheeps will cast a vote their way.

            After all the Two Major items most required to get elected to any state or fed office of any importance, are, Lots of Money, and Lots of Good praise from all national newspapers and especially MSM-TV news shows right.

            Now just Who or which “group” Owns all MSM’s and Moneys in America? Which Other country is there “Dual” citizenships at? Where is it Mandated EVERY single one of those who seek elective office Must go and Kiss Major ass as well as kiss/bang that wall too?

            Where else would anybody reside if they were the Actual antichrist guy In waiting? And just how badly could such a man Scare the living Crap out of a person seeking election. If that antichrist man was also able to perhaps perform a few “tricks” to Prove he is that man?

            When one considers the Profound Changes in their actions-demeanor-and overall scared look after they Leave that bandit state, and how worried so many seem to always appear when seen on live tv news shows. Well one just Must consider all things in such times as we now live right. Even such as may Now seem far fetched…Only to Later find out were so damn true all along. Like the Many other things we have learned recently, the last decade or so eh. Stranger things have been reported, and also eventually Proven true.

        • And ninety percent of them will be re elected over and over again. The problem lies in a populace too stupid to know or care what is being done to them.

      23. i will not comply . period . ;0p

        THIS IS OUR GENERATIONS OF AMERICAN HISTORY TRIGGER FOR THE ‘BOSTON TEA PARTY’ PART 2 !

        ‘NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION’

        * First we will Sue the ZOG FEDGOV in a ‘National Class Action ‘American Citizen Violated Constitution Rights / Breach of Contract’ Lawsuit .’

        do not comply while this is happening … don’t feed the illegal un-ratified un-Constitutional privately owned IRS corporate beast . *** TAXES ARE VOLUNTARY ***

        … if that fails …

        ‘Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.’

        ~John F. Kennedy 1962

        ‘ THIS EVENT WILL TRIGGER THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION PART 2 !’

        spread the word and …

        prepare

        N.O. ;0p

        • * pers note to nancy pelosi and her traitor political prostitute wash dc zionist zio-christian rainbow-brite criminal mafia ~

          ‘We cook your meals. We haul your trash. We connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep.’

          ‘Do not fuck with us.’

          N.O. ;0p

            • Constitution of the United States

              The Federal Convention convened in the State House (Independence Hall) in Philadelphia on May 14, 1787, to revise the Articles of Confederation. Because the delegations from only two states were at first present, the members adjourned from day to day until a quorum of seven states was obtained on May 25. Through discussion and debate it became clear by mid-June that, rather than amend the existing Articles, the Convention would draft an entirely new frame of government. All through the summer, in closed sessions, the delegates debated, and redrafted the articles of the new Constitution. Among the chief points at issue were how much power to allow the central government, how many representatives in Congress to allow each state, and how these representatives should be elected–directly by the people or by the state legislators. The work of many minds, the Constitution stands as a model of cooperative statesmanship and the art of compromise.

              Constitution of the United States

              N.O. ;0p

              • The Bill of Rights

                The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

                Congress of the United States
                begun and held at the City of New-York, on
                Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

                THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

                RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

                ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

                Note: The following text is a transcription of the first ten amendments to the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were ratified December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the “Bill of Rights.”

                Amendment I

                Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

                Amendment II

                A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                Amendment III

                No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

                Amendment IV

                The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

                Amendment V

                No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

                Amendment VI

                In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

                Amendment VII

                In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

                Amendment VIII

                Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

                Amendment IX

                The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

                Amendment X

                The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

                N.O. ;0p

                • Thanks for posting that here, I couldn’t find it anywhere else…. 😐

                • Nina you are one of only few who can get thumb down posting the greatest document there is. Life must suck to be you. Is the lay worth. Really is it.

                  • Don’t shoot the messenger.

                    That messenger shoots back!

                  • Some people give him the thumb because they are tired of the Jew hatred and multiple posts that make no sense. And video links that are useless.

                • I would bet a gold dollar that most of the blathering idiots who are supposed to represent We The People cant remember anything past the first amendment if even that!

                • @ NinaO

                  How in the Hell do you get a thumbs down on this post? Only goes to show you that there will be TRAITORS in our midst. Hollow Patriots with no substance. Allegiance to nothing but themselves. A horde of disguised GivMeDats.

                • 3n, commies will red thumb anything if it seems a threat to their commie loving.

                  • I’d bet that Many red thumbers come here from Glen Becks website forums. Because the vast majority There Howl and Rant like a stuck swine pig, whenever anybody posts a comment or reply such as Nina O is famous for and especially if said reply post mentiones that forbidden “J” word. Becks forums posters Prove there is barly a difference between neocon repubs and lib dems.

                  • commie hater

                    has nothing to do with liking commies most of us are damn sick and tired of Nina and her anti Jew shit she posts here daily Her so called TRUTH is just crap she cuts and pastes from other Neo Nazi web sites.

                    i for one being a jew am sick of being blamed for all of the earths fucking problems.and people( i use that term loosely with Nina )like her don’t help this web site out one bit. i am sick of being called a crazy tin hat wearing idiot whose more interested in seeing the world destroyed and living in a cave.

                    the people that Nina blame for all the problems are nothing but Self loathing liberals and False Jews that hate them self more then anything else. do you really think Bloomberg practices his faith ?? do you think he keeps kosher ? and keeps the sabbath holy ??
                    not a chance in hell. there Jews just to say there something and keep getting money from the stupid sheeple. Feinstein Bloomberg etc are all phoneys.
                    But to hear Nina and Jeremiah Wright tell it those Jews have Obama under there control. Really ?? do you really think he could ever be under any ones control ??

                    for the first time in a long time we actually have a govt that Hates any one that even dares to act different and thinks that Preppers are some kind of weirdo who need to be wiped off the planet.

                    and i don’t think Nina is helping! we have one of the most if not THE MOST dangerous presidents in history one whose hell bent on taking the US down to third world status in a just a few months and if we don’t find a way to stop him and the rest of the dems were all going to be looking over our shoulders.OR looking at the barrel of a gun in a firing squad!!!

                    WE have a president who’s looking for any excuse to label us with the Term Hate speech and shut down the entire internet and just lets his liberal buddies use it.and if you think i am kidding think again after all why did he request the INTERNET Kill switch ??
                    he would have used it during his campaign if he could have found a good excuse.he has used the Conservatives as his excuse for why he cant get his liberal agenda passed and now we have the govt spying on the same types of groups he has blamed for his problems. Tea party groups militias etc all the reason he cant get his agenda passed

                    and now we have him and his corrupt admin using the IRS and NSA against Americans by tracking there phone calls and internet sites and credit card purchases. fascism here we come!!!

                    and for slingshot

                    and the term hollow patriots is what you should be calling dems. the most hollow of the entire bunch.

                    MY family has been in America since 1760 and no i am not kidding and every male since has served in the military from the revolutionary war to Nam and beyond. fighting for this great country and what she stands for i have seen them buried in veterans cemeteries and lone family plots in 10 different states . so i know they cared for this land and what it stands for.i know that on a couple of occasions that they left there families behind and shed there blood fighting for something they believed only to never return to the homes and kin. they believed so strongly that they gave there horses food and ultimately there lives so WE!! could live in America and be free. and now i see it all being thrown away for Political correctness. were being turned in to a nations of wimps and cowards by the liberals

                    no one in my family has ever said no when asked by this country to stand and defend her.and while we have not always agreed why we have done our duty. and more then once the women in my family helped every way they could.

                    try asking a liberal to put aside his differences and join the military and serve and i bet you will get a hundred reasons why they cant. but they can stand on the streets and throw rocks and burn cop cars

                    9 times out 0f 10 its the more conservative that joins and doesn’t ask why its the conservative that wants traditional family values and not gay marriage and affirmative action and hand outs for all and men who father 22 children with 14 women and think its a big fucking joke. this country is being torn apart and most just sit around all day and say tsk tsk that’s too bad.i have said it before i trust my more conservative friends there the ones that feel strongly about this country and where its headed. i see us heading for a huge hole and no way out.

                    I am not a hollow patriot i stand ready to defend my family and my property i have more then enough firepower.
                    and will when the time comes use it.

                    Troll killer

          • Aren’t you supposed to blame the Jews for this?

            • You are supposed to Blame whoever Or whatever is the True one to blame. Weather or not it is jews-blacks-whites-libs-neocons-etc etc, matters Not. What Does matter is that You barncat come to realize that if it turns out ANY certain persons or group of persons are Proven and Documented, many times By Their Own words or actions as well as Historic evidence to be at fault or guilty, Then the ONLY Right-Honest-Proper-Godly-Good-Thing you can do is STOP defending or protecting ANY such group or persons if it turns out They are guilty.

              And even if Many or even a Vast Majority of such group are in fact guilty or at fault, So What? Why do you blame the messenger instead of the guilty group or persons?

              How in the world can You Possibly believe ANY group or person is automatically Fault free and should never be held accountable no matter how bad or evil or deadly such person or group is? I do hope you soon awaken, as it may be a short leep from Deluded to Deranged beyond all repair.

            • LOL They love to blame others…. Reminds me of a certain party I know….. I bet each one is a mooselim; mad because Isreal stands tall against them.

              • For the record… I don’t support Isreal’s actions in Syria. I fully support Russia and Assad because my Christian faith always comes first.

                • indy colts

                  so your christian values and faith says use nerve gas on your own citizens including women and children ?
                  it tells you to bomb the living hell out of hospitals and nurseries ?? does your faith and values tell you to burn and maim your own citizens whom you claim to love and want only the best for such as Saddam Hussein and Qaddafi did and look how that turned out for them.

                  one hanged and the other sodomized by a bayonet just before he was shot in the head in a drainage ditch.

                  or how about we go back to Hitler and how he only wanted the best for his country but ended up committing suicide and having his body burnt. in a ditch

                  Funny how these three ended there life in Ditches and holes in the ground. or at least in the case of Saddam he was found in a hole like a rat.

                  do your values tell you to starve your own citizens all while you live high on the hog and entertain people with food and drink paid for by the same citizens your starving ??
                  and by taking bribes and payoffs from corrupt leaders

                  do your faith and values tell you and your military to rape and kill women ?? or beat and cut the hands and feet off women and children.

                  OR are these all lies by the main stream media too make him look bad??

                  those are some values wheww!!!

                  but if you have evidence to the contrary then i am wiling to listen and maybe convert from my present religion.

                  My faith and values tell me that ALL LIFE IS sacred including the unborn and the elderly and the small and frail.
                  it tells me to help when i can with what i can. with out being a burden on others. and if i need to by putting my self in danger if need be to help others.
                  i couldn’t look at my self knowing i was a coward and let some one die if i could help.But that doesn’t mean being stupid and wasting my life in a useless battle i know i cant win.
                  doesn’t mean i am weak and if i had to i would and could end the life of a Terrorist or enemy.

                  if some one were to
                  attack me they would see how i respond. and don’t take my delay as a sign of weakness on my part. it takes time to open a safe and get out ammo etc LOL

                  i really want to know just what christian church teaches this kind of lifestyle and value system.
                  all i hear every sun is love my neighbor and forgive the sinner but hate the sin. i was and am taught that every one deserves forgiveness and love but not to the point were you have to be a victim.

                  Troll killer

                  • Don’t argue with an idiot, there’ll just drag u down to their level and beat you with experience

                  • Actually, Vladimir Putin has vowed to protect Christianity throughout the world so thats why I support Russia. I don’t care about the previous stuff because our government is just as bad now as they were. Do your homework on Putin

      24. Mandatory obamacare is to pad the pockets of insurance Co ,big pharma,gather more info on the citizens to the govt,that can b used against you

        • Mandatory Obamacare is to destroy private insurance for single payer.

      25. Obamacare is ultimately about being able to decide who lives and who dies. And after the IRS scandals you can be sure that being an enemy of the state will get your healthcare denied. And when that happens the left will rejoice. They’d rather see all Christians, Republicans, Constitutionalists, and gun owners die anyway.

      26. Dianne FRANKENSTEIN (Feinstein)(californication-jew) ;0p on NSA: ‘It’s called a ZIONIST JEW TAKE OVER OF America’

        N.O. ;0p

        • Lay off the Jews for one day will you. Please.

          • I agree!!! I’m not a jew and don’t really have an vested interest in them other than prophecy. But damn you have to be a mooselim to have them that much.

            • hate them that much

      27. Adolf Hitler – The greatest story Never told !

        LEARN THE TRUTH

        by RO PATRIOT

        Adolf Hitler – The greatest story Never told !
        For a long time the world has been manipulated on the history of the Second World War. Overwhelming evidence, Exposing Lies and Truth about Adolf Hitler, His childhood, his rise in Germany and Europe, his ideals, defeats and victories are all in this documentary.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXq-cLYyt5U&feature=player_embedded

        • hitler and Patriot should never be in the same sentence. FYI the holocause did happen

      28. AMERICA BETRAYED INTO WW1 AND WW2

        Part 1 Adolf Hitler – The greatest story NEVER told!

        Part 1 Tells the story from his birth and early life, throughout his World War One exploits and his early political beginning.
        Please note corrections * Adolf Hitler was the 55th party member and not the seventh.Also the grave of his parents no longer have a monument headstone as it has been removed by officials since this documentary was made.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lejfGhWeakY

        Part two tells about his political rise and the incredible early National Socialist success and the Nuremberg rallies.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VisqRp_RGl4

        part 3 About the origins of the Swastika, Eva Braun, the rejoining of Austria with Germany and the Sudetenland conflict.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl6lC7To-jA

        Part 4 Adolf Hitler – The greatest story Never told! There is some evidence now to suggest that the Crystal night was a false flag. Goebbels was known to be furious that it happened at a time when he was trying to build bridges and prevent any hostilities abroad.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTzGznIb6Cs

        part 5 Adolf Hitler -The greatest Story Never told!
        Part 5 is about the treaty of Versailles and the after effects. Also the Czech and Polish conflicts and declaration of war by Britain.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSJfjM0BfD0

        Part 6. Adolf Hitler – The greatest story Never told!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DqJXgboalY

        Part 7 Adolf Hitler – The greatest story NEVER told!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX3Opl8G74k

        Part 8 Adolf Hitler – The greatest story Never told!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrAM2s5FIYo

        WATCH TO LEARN THE TRUTH

        AMERICA AND ITS INNOCENT NAIVE CITIZENS WERE LIED TO , TRICKED INTO WW1 AND WW2 BY ITS OWN GOVERNMENT , BANKERS AND THE ZIONIST JEWS !!!

        N.O. ;0p

      29. the funny thing about this entire “Obama care”..is that it really was thought up by none other than Hillary Clinton when she was first lady..it didn’t well fly while she was the FLOTUS, but it was her soap box if you remember..so it was pushed in this admin to cloak it., and push it with a different face.

        again people it was in the works way before it got revealed .. as like many Gov. plays.

        • and don’t think for one second we wont be still dealing with her, years to come.

          she has an axe to grind, and were the stone,
          same applies to Pelosi

        • Right you are VRF

          this was the missing piece of the Clinton obama deal
          he would shove this down our throats and she would drop out of the race and take secretary of state for 4 years
          so she could get ready to make her own run in 2016.
          but really i am surprised she didn’t want her name on this maybe she realized it would never work and figured he could take the blame and she would smell like roses.

      30. A politician lying!? What is this world coming to? Before you know it we’ll have bankers stealing money.

        • and the Obuttheads attending a Christian Church.

      31. They all think they know what is best for you, and will force you to comply

        this might be a bit O/T but it still falls under the umbrella of we the gov know whats right and good for you, and we will force it down your throats at any cost

        San Antonio Texas, just the other day

        “Shortly thereafter, the father of the children arrived, and immediately attempted to go inside the burning house to rescue his nine month old son. However, police interfered with his will in this life or death situation, and went as far as to tase him for trying to save his own son. He was tased, and sadly, the infant did not make it.”

        The adrenaline, and pure loving determination to save his son would have made it a high possibility that he would have been able to save him, but the police disrespected his will, and used extreme force against him, preventing him from doing something that will probably taunt him the rest of his life.

        This is a very sickeningly unfortunate event, and it is a very potent indicator of the mechanical, dysfunctional, disrespectful, and forceful characteristics of the police, the enforcement class of our out of control government.

        The police of the United States tend to not know anything about the government they serve, except for what they hear from mainstream media.

        The police, to speak collectively for a moment, have a mixed up, partially developed moral perspective, and desperately need an awakening, a large amount of information about who makes the laws they enforce, and how a society can be policed the right way

        we need to illustrate as clearly as possible, that they have no right to disrespect the will of people like this, and no one would disrespect them if they respected the people

        this goes all the way to the TOP!

      32. Thought this was neat,
        GPS jammer..knocks out cell phone tracking, vehicle gps tracking, XM radio even gets knocked out so chances are the gps end of your on star is blipped out too..

        nice unit for 119$

      33. It’s all one big shell game to them. Them being the “Rebublicrats”. Their all the same ! Nancy P is as dumb as a box of rocks, but can talk in circles better than most, so they put her out front. Listen to the response, she basically said nothing ! It’s all just to keep us jumpimg through hoops and confused while they do what they want.
        Remember this “we elected these idiots” so who is the real idiot ?
        I emailed Illinois Senator Dick Turbin and demanded he impeach Obama and then resign. His response to me was to “thank me for my concern with our imigration issue”.
        Enough said !

      34. Liberty and freedom are not a bargaining chip. Either we have it or we don’t. The truth is the Democrat party has become the most racist and enabling group of small minded individuals this country has ever seen. And the Republican Party is a joke too. there needs to be a removal of every one at the top and replaced with those that are for and from the people

        Understand this government, Us citizens can live without you, but you couldn’t live without us.

      35. The perfect Manchurian candidate?

        At the 30th reunion for the class of 1983, no one remembers meeting or even seeing him (Obama) at Columbia.

        “Keep in mind these people I spoke to are all — to a man and woman — dedicated liberal Democrats who voted for Obama. I’m guessing 90 percent are major Democrat contributors. … They adore Obama. … But they all admit they never met him in their four years at Columbia.”

        “The question isn’t was he ever registered, or did he graduate? And it’s interesting that one photo, one professor, and one newspaper article exists — just enough to provide a thin cover. The kind of thin cover you might find created by the CIA or KGB. Really strange.”

        “But the serious question the media should be asking is…What did Obama do for two full years in-between registration and graduation? Did he ever attend a class? Did he ever have a single friend other than a Pakistani national?

        Why is the only professor to ever come forward and claim he remembers him a radical leftist who hates Israel? What exactly was he doing when no one met him, saw him or heard of him? Why are his college records sealed? What has he got to hide? But my educated guess is he can’t, or won’t ever release those records.”

        Barack Obama: The Ghost of Columbia University
        Personal Liberty dot com

        • The problem wasn’t Obama, it was the lack of a contender. After what Bush did to the USA, people are dead scared of the Repugnicans. This country probably would not have survived another Bush-like term. Sure, what we have in Washington is of negative value to the working people of the USA; but, what we need is a party which represents working Americans. Oblameya might be a true blue socialist but at least he takes on practical scams like patent trolls which are parasites on the country.
          He may very well be a manchurian candidate. The fascism fast over-taking America is driven by a world elite who control the UN and IMF/World Bank – it is far above his pay grade. He’s just a pawn to them. The talent these elites have is corrupting a person. They know persons like Pelosi and Oblameya do not need to be brought up as a manchurian candidate when they can so easily be swayed by other means. And just invest into the right “manchurian” candidate and they can basically continue their destruction of personal liberty throughout the world. Their goal is obviously and clearly to turn the USA into a fascist state – like China in the near term and like North Korea/1984/other books in the longer term.
          All you need is a few immoral puppets leading the people. Nancy Pelosi is a prime example. The few quotes provided by others here should be enough for a decent President to demote or dismiss her. Those are no joke when they come from our country’s topmost “leaders”!!!

      36. AMERICA BETRAYED

        The Constitution of
        the United States of America
        with Explanatory Notes

        I DARE YOU …

        TO READ IT , IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR , YOUR FAMILY , CHILDREN’S FREEDOM and FUTURE

        DOWNLOAD

        N.O. ;0p

        • The U.S. Constitution established America’s national government and fundamental laws, and guaranteed certain basic rights for its citizens. It was signed on September 17, 1787, by delegates to the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, presided over by George Washington. Under America’s first governing document, the Articles of Confederation, the national government was weak and states operated like independent countries. At the 1787 convention, delegates devised a plan for a stronger federal government with three branches–executive, legislative and judicial–along with a system of checks and balances to ensure no single branch would have too much power. The Bill of Rights–10 amendments guaranteeing basic individual protections such as freedom of speech and religion–became part of the Constitution in 1791. To date, there have been a total of 27 constitutional amendments.

          • Bring back the Articles of Confederation.

            • @eisenkreuz & facebookpage
              i pray that my Creator forgives me for this…both of you have been right more often than not in your writings regarding what is going on and how we got to where we are…yes iam one of those old people who helped get us here and i fear there is no saving the republic at this point…thank you for helping me see a little clearer.

            • Get rid of Control Freaks.

      37. My favorite said in one of his books, Anyone that wants to run for public office should be disqualified for being insane.

      38. Whats up with the internet? Every site I visited the posts and comments are all missing parts of the writing, including SHTF. Is this censorship or is it just on my access?

      39. When is the media going to start covering the rate increases courtesy of Obamacare? You have insurance — sure, you can keep it — IF you can afford it, Sucker.

      40. The way Obamacare works there will be no preexisting conditions. You can literally purchase insurance in the hospital ER.

        I wish the government would do this to automobile insurance next. Then you buy a policy at the body shop if you ever wreck.

        Of course, the downside is, PRICES ARE GOING THROUGH THE FUCKING ROOF! No one is going to be able to afford it and the whole damned insurance industry is going to implode.

      41. looks to me like they got to him

        Former CIA Director David Petraeus is in attendance at the 2013 Bilderberg Group conference to help construct the “big data” spy grid, which is set to become the new frontier of clandestine statecraft as Internet connectivity becomes ubiquitous

      42. Ding! Ding! Bing out your Dead, Ding! Ding!

      43. ***foul language warning****
        To Nancy Pelosi and all of your cronies…..You are lying sacks of shit and you are only concerned with your own ass. Company’s fines for not providing insurance are cheaper than insuring employees so I am sure my husbands insurance through his company will probably end soon. If fucking Obamacare (aka Affordable Care Act-what a joke) is so great, why aren’t all government employees FORCED TO PURCHASE IT?????? Why is the president (yes I did not use caps for that on purpose) & his wife exempted from it. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO DETERMINE IF THE COVERAGE WE HAVE IS “SUFFICIENT”???? Every one of you criminal bastards should be brought up on charges and then paraded through the streets of the once great United States of America for the public to tar and feather. HEAR THAT DATA COLLECTORS!!!!!!!! I am an angry American citizen exercising my right to FREE SPEECH. SCREW YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!!!!!!!

        • Could not have said it better!!!

        • After EVERY phone conversation say, “NSA, can you hear me now??”

          🙂

      44. NOBODY CARES! This country is screwed! Just keep talking and whining, its going to get worse not better

      45. ‘ Welcome to the Jew.S.A. !’

        N.O. ;0p

        • Dam Nina. Let just talk about boobs all weekend. Let just give it a rest.

          • Face book

            how can 3n3my of th3 stat3 be Nina ? he claims to be a Scotsman Not a scots women but a man

            i think were dealing with a multiple personality disorder

            troll killer

          • ONCE AGAIN … ‘piss off @fagboypuss’ … i’m just gettin’ warmed up here ;0p

            this is me playin’ nice for now …

            9/11 WTC TWIN TOWERS and BUILDING 7 was a ZIONIST JEW INSIDE JOB !

            USS LIBERTY was a ZIONIST ISRAELI JEW INSIDE JOB !

            USS COLE was a ZIONIST ISRAELI JEW INSIDE JOB !

            3/11 FUKUSHIMA NUKE PLANT SABOTAGE was a ZIONIST ISRAELI JEW INSIDE JOB !

            7/7 was a ZOG ROYALBRITGOV INSIDE JOB !

            WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMBING was a ZOG FEDGOV INSIDE JOB !

            LEBANON MARINE BARRACKS IMPLOSION was a ZIONIST ISRAEHELL INSIDE JOB !

            OKLAHOMA CITY FED BUILDING BOMBING was a ZOG FEDGOV INSIDE JOB !

            BRANCH DAVIDIAN COMPOUND FIRE STORM MASSACRE was a ZOG FEDGOV INSIDE JOB !

            RUBY RIDGE was a ZOG FEDGOV INSIDE JOB !

            WOUNDED KNEE was a ZOG FEDGOV INSIDE JOB !

            ‘ALL WARS’ since 1773 are ILLUMINATI ZIONIST ZIO-CHRISTIAN FREEMASON BILDERBOYBUGGER BANKER usury manipulated caused FALSE-FAG WARS and INSIDE JOBS !

            … i have only just begun my ‘Lone Wolf’ fight against the ILLUMINATI NWO U.N. ZIONIST ZOG FREEMASONS and BILDERBOYBUGGERS !!!

            NinaO ;0p

            • … addendum

              Every single ‘MASS BOMBING GUN MASSACRE’ attack on American soil against the defenseless American citizens and their children since 9/11 have been deliberate executed ZOG FEDGOV and ISRAELI JEW MOSSAD FALSE-FAG ATTACKS !!!

              THEY ARE ALL intentionally committed DEMOCIDE ‘Acts of Terrorism’ by the ZOG U.S. PENTAGON NSA CIA FBI DHS ISRAELI MOSSAD planned directed sponsored and paid for ZOG FALSE-FLAG ATTACKS against ‘YOU’ THE AMERICAN PEOPLE !!!

              N.O. ;0p

              • Wounded Knee

                located on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in southwestern South Dakota, was the site of two conflicts between North American Indians and representatives of the U.S. government. An 1890 massacre left some 150 Native Americans dead, in what was the final clash between federal troops and the Sioux. In 1973, members of the American Indian Movement occupied Wounded Knee for 71 days to protest conditions on the reservation.

                Wounded Knee: Trouble continues at Pine Ridge

                The troubles at Wounded Knee were not over after the siege. A virtual civil war broke out between the opposing Indian factions on the Pine Ridge reservation, and a series of beatings, shootings and murders left more than 100 Indians dead. When two FBI agents were killed in a 1975 gunfight, the agency raided the reservation and arrested AIM leader Leonard Peltier for the crime. The FBI crackdown coupled with AIM’s own excesses ended its influence at Pine Ridge. In 1977, Peltier was convicted of killing the two FBI agents and sentenced to life in prison. To this day, Peltier’s supporters continue to maintain his innocence and seek a presidential pardon for him.

                N.O. ;0p

                • Are you sure the jews didn’t steal the native Indianas land?

      46. Take a long hard look at the people in the House an Senate.

        “TERM LIMITS” ——NEVER HAPPEN, JUST DREAMING

        • You’re right, it’ll never happen in our current system. But suggestions like term limits are really for the NEW system … the next government, the next Constitution — to be put in place after.

      47. I wonder how many oly’s they’ll let me have under Obamacare? Do they have sub-plan options, like say ‘Liver Insurance’ v. maybe ‘Prostrate Insurance’, or both? or neither?

        or is it just pay so that WE don’t kill you insurance?

      48. There is a lot of pent upped anger about the Nation and there seems there is nothing we can do about it. We are trying to live normal lives as they force laws upon us that anger internally and eventually will drive us all insane. I am looking forward to a flash point that lights the powder keg. That point of no return where those who have followed this recklessness, wake up and turn on Their Masters. You can only go so far with blaming others for the injustices one endures. Job loses, reduction in hours are the outcome of Obama Care. I will not blame those that close their businesses. Might be the best thing to do. Tell your workers you can not afford Obama Care and shut down.
        Pardon me, I have to go now, as there might be a new scandal on Drudge.

      49. HHHAAAA they are all such idiots!!!! How can they even remember what country they’re working for they think they work for Nazi Germany!!! Take that NSA snoopers!

      50. Just another day in the good old mother land eh komrades? Sitting by, growing tired of waiting for something to kick off.
        As for honorable?!?! Ha Ha Ha Ha, that’s the funniest sh*t I’ve ever heard. Thanks for the laugher Mac, I needed that one!! Now, where did I place the blue prints for the gallows?

      51. {{{But if you don’t have health insurance and you don’t qualify for a subsidy… and you’re mandated to have health insurance, you won’t have an increase.}}}

        Is this bitch on drugs???
        If you had no insurance, you stupid bitch, you had no premiums TO INCREASE?
        Again, is this bitch on drugs??

        • she could be, but she dam sure needs a hearing aid so she can hear how stupid she sounds

          • JJ; I actually had to read her statements a few times to make sure I understood what she said correctly. She’s a lunatic.

        • Just another dumb fuck washington insider who talks in bubbles

        • top shelf booze, botox, and herself.

      52. All aboard; last call, ALL ABOARD the PATROIT’S FREEDOM TRAIN! You look around and there are so MANY empty seats it’s not funny where the HELL is everyone. As you can tell HOT AIR doesn’t cost that much, it’s time to put an end to this BULL-SHIT. Suck it up and take it to them or sit down and shut the F—K Up. If you all don’t like this STATEMENT TUFF SH-T. Every red line that anyone ever had should have been crossed long ago. We need to do it now or it will truly be too late. I can see it now in the hereafter; we’ll be sitting around there after our individual last stands and saying yes we should have taken it to them together as one. Oh well.

        Keep the FAITH
        Watchman

        • I think the time will come soon. Prob when we actually pull the pen out to write that bad check to the new insurance plan that we cannot afford.

      53. Eff ’em all. I REFUSE to comply. I currently don’t have insurance, but if I need to go to the E.R, I’ll just tell them my name is Jose Enrique Gomez Rodriguez Hernandez Valdez, and I’m here illegally, and get all the free coverage I need. If they come knocking on my door to try and serve a warrant by the IRS for failure to comply- it’ll be the last door they knock on. I’m done playing their game.

        NOMI

      54. White House Releases Their List Of Terrorists

        Veterans
        People with Ron Paul bumper stickers
        People who openly support the US Constitution
        Anyone who uses the Internet
        Anyone who uses a telephone

        *ANYONE WHO DARES TO STAND THEIR GROUND AGAINST ZIONIST JEW TYRANNY !!!

        Fortunately, DHS has prepared for this terrorism by purchasing 1.6 billion rounds of ammo. Enough to easily take care of all 350 million terrorists in the US.

        PREPARE FOR ZOG MARTIAL LAW AND GENOCIDE !!!

        N.O. ;0p

      55. Why did you even post the lying piece of shit Pelosi?? Its Propaganda, they lied and the reporters let her continue to babble. She said nothing and just flailed about in her 80’s style presentation hand gestures.

      56. WTF is the matter with the people of California ? More so, the people of The Bay Area and Marin County. People like this are the reason the Federal Gov’t must be reduced in size and scope. If Nan Nan can’t remember, maybe it is time to send her to the old folks home. Thanks California, for releasing this plague on the rest of us !

      57. Don’t ask your government for your Privacy, take it back:

        Browser Privacy: HTTPS Everywhere, AdBlock Plus + EasyList, Ghostery, NoScript (FireFox), NotScript (Chrome)
        VPNs: BTGuard (Canada), ItsHidden (Africa), Ipredator (Sweden), Faceless.me (Cyprus / Netherlands)
        Internet Anonymization: Tor, Tor Browser Bundle, I2P
        Disk Encryption: TrueCrypt (Windows / Linux), File Vault (Mac).
        File/Email Encryption: GPGTools + GPGMail (Mac), Enigmail (Windows / OSX / Linux)
        IM Encryption: Pidgin + Pidgin OTR
        IM/Voice Encryption: Mumble, Jitsi
        SMS/Voice Encryption: WhisperSystems, Silent Circle ($$$)
        Digital P2P Currency: BitCoin
        Live Anonymous/Secure Linux: TAILS Linux

        If you have any problems installing or using the above software, please contact the projects. They would love to get feedback and help you use their software.

        Have no clue what Cryptography is or why you should care? Checkout the Crypto Party Handbook or the EFF’s Surveillance Self-Defense Project.

        Just want some simple tips? Checkout EFF’s Top 12 Ways to Protect Your Online Privacy.

        If you liked this comment, feel free to copy/paste it.

        N.O. ;0p

      58. 4 year prepper says:

        I have heard that Nancy Pelosi, Casey Anthony along with O J Simpson are three of the most loathsome creatures on earth. Notice “creatures”— (things that slither and have a forked tongue) It is a toss up as who is hated more. If Nancy were to leave office she whould have to go into hiding and change her identity to stay alive because she is hated by everyone. I don’t think she likes herself.

        4 year prepper

      59. From what I’ve learned in life you can talk ,an talk to people, the only thing most people respond to is Physical pain, an yes I will still dish it out when needed. we are in a gun fight with a knife. I am a firm beleiver you can move a pile of dirt one shovel full at a time,but they(gov) have a state of the art Loader Piling the dirt up and we only have a shovel with a broken handle an a bad back. No matter how you vote these Thieves,Traders never go away,Reid,Pelosi ect. Need a way to push back the way they do,I dont know what that might be though. The old dont want to make waves, an the young are too dumb down,cant wait till november to find out how Screwed I’m gona be..by my watch its 4:20 and a glass of home made Brandy..sorry for the rant.

      60. She is a Ph_ _King piece of shit. do you know what you are you lying bastsard.

      61. Mac, just a thought, why don’t you do a daily blank page for those who insist on commandeering the post areas taking them off topic, ranting and raving, name calling, etc. it would be so much easier for those of us interested in the topic at hand to read and reply.

        • Working on it in the form of a forum! coming soon!

        • @DollarstoDonuts & Mac

          “commandeering the post areas taking them off topic.”

          I don’t believe anyone here is really taken off topic. You are free to stay on topic if you chose. But SHTFplan seems to be a free flow of thought, idea and comment. Anarchy if you will. I think it’s beautiful! If you take the time to read ALL the comment, you will see that they are all related one way or another.

          I would suggest to DollarstoDonuts ,[with all do respect]that if you’re looking for a rigid, linear, easy to read forum… go with something else.

          Folks here may be too complicated and passionate for your taste.

          Just my 2 anarcho cents.

      62. Mark my words, the day will come when the democrats will rue the day that they voted for this bill, and have their party associated with this abomination!
        Already my son’s job cut his hours in order to get around Obama Care’s 30 hour weekly cut off.
        It’s going to be so expensive that some families will be forced to decide to pay the rent or mortgage, or pay for health insurance.

        Am I exaggerating? No way, even the IRS said that for a family of 5, $20,000 a year will be the average payment.

        Affordable? Hardly!

        • It’s not a Left/Right “thing.”

          The Left is the Right, and the Right is the Left!

          It’s a GOVERNMENT “thing.”!

          Check the Left/Right “thing” at the door!

          Fascist come in the colors of Red and Blue.

      63. Howdy, Central TX Mom, and I totally agree. On June 1, my company changed our coverage from Humana to Blue Cross/Blue Shield; just waiting to see how that turns out. As long as my premium doesn’t go up significantly, I’ll try to keep it. I’m not buying Monkeycare, period! I don’t care what anyone says! braveheart

        • Obamacare becomes effective January 1, 2014. If your company was able to afford this renewal good for you. When your group plan comes up for renewal next year expect your rates to go through the roof and the company plan to terminate.

        • Hi Braveheart, good to hear from you. Yea, kinda lost my temper on that post. OOOPS. We had BC/BS in your state about 10 yrs ago. Pretty good at the time – low co pays & not really any run around on covering things, of course that was about 10 yrs ago.

      64. @ Mac…I would like to point out a redundancy in your title. Nancy Pelosi and lie.

        @BI…I don’t feel a bit sorry for her husband, because unless he is legally blind or wears sunglasses at night he knew from the start what he was walking into. Fifty Shades of Ugly.

      65. I hate to admit this, and I don’t condone beating women by any means, but i’d love to punch this woman right in the mouth. My disgust for her and people like her far exceeds anything my bowels can produce.

      66. This Fuc@@@@ Bitc@ is out of her freaking mind. She is such a lier, health care is so expensive, I have a freaking policy which is the only kind my company offers and I pay and pay and pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars to be covered, but when I need insurance, they pay nothing because I have such a freakin huge deductable, I can not afford to see my doc ever, it cost me 150 bucks for 5 minutes of her time. A family member had to go the hospital for chest pains, and I had to pay about over 5,000 bucks out of my pocket which I did not have, insurance did not cover. This nut job and obama are clueless, they are robbers of the american middle class.

      67. *#&*((*&^%&*@!#$!#@$%^$#!@**!** &!*@&%$#%*!**@&*!*&@^$&((!*&@^%#@&!!!!

        That’s all I have to say about a worthless piece of sh&^!

      68. Hang this woman high from the gallows.

      69. They use a gun on me, I will use one on them. Once they attempt to start the confiscation, I will not be waiting for them. I will be knocking on their front door. Actually, it’ll be a lot louder than a knock!

      70. Jew Suspicion and Hate: Racist Attacks On Arabs Increase in Israel

        ” Damn Greedy Dirty Smelly Hairy Jews !” N.O. ;0p

        Arabs are being beaten and insulted in Israel, where the number of racially motivated attacks has risen dramatically. The unresolved conflict, fueled by nationalist politicians, is shifting from Palestinian areas into the Israeli heartland.

        The horror is etched on her face and caught on camera. Revital Wolkov is sitting in the driver’s seat of her white Toyota, staring over her right shoulder, through the broken rear window, directly into the lens. The hole in the window is shaped like a large butterfly.

        ANZEIGE
        Wolkov, 53, teaches history in Ramat HaSharon, near Tel Aviv. She was attacked and her car was damaged, merely because an Arab colleague was sitting in the passenger seat. It happened in March, but it wasn’t the only attack of its kind.

        In the spring, several Jewish teenage girls asked a women standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem whether she was an Arab. The woman, wearing a headscarf, replied that she was. One of the girls pulled the hijab from the woman’s head and spat in her face. The others kicked and beat the woman. A police officer stood nearby and watched. Hana Amtir, 38, three months’ pregnant, locked herself into her house for three days before filing a complaint with the police.

        ” Damn Greedy Dirty Smelly Hairy Jews !” N.O. ;0p

        In a beach bar in Tel Aviv, an Arab waiter was clearing away bottles of mayonnaise and ketchup, but the men sitting at one of the tables weren’t finished yet. “Damn Arab,” they cursed, and then proceeded to beat the man, who was later hospitalized. None of the other guests came to his aid.

        Youths attacked an Arab cleaning man working for the city of Tel Aviv as he was emptying garbage cans. They broke a bottle over his head. The man, covered with blood, asked them why they were doing this to him. “Because you’re an Arab,” they shouted.

        Such attacks have become commonplace in Israel, but it isn’t Jewish soldiers beating Palestinian civilians in the West Bank. The attacks have nothing to do with militant settlers or an autonomous Palestine, although these conflicts are always at the back of people’s minds.

        For decades, Jews and Palestinians have been fighting over the same piece of land. Some of them even share the same citizenship. Three quarters of Israel’s 8 million people are Jews, and 1.8 million are Israeli Arabs. However, their paths rarely cross in everyday life. Israel’s Arabs are not required to serve in the military, and many of them live in primarily Arab towns and neighborhoods, with their children attending Arab schools. They earn less on average and are not as well educated as Israeli Jews. Officially, they have the same rights as Jewish citizens, but in reality they are often the targets of discrimination.

        ” Damn Greedy Dirty Smelly Hairy Jews !”

        N.O. ;0P

      71. This seems to be the common mantra of this entire administration: “I don’t remember.”

      72. A Garrote would be too merciful for these treasonous thugs!

      73. The woman is slurring her speech, blabbering on an on to kill time, repeating redundantly the same nonsense about “if you paid 0 before, now you will pay higher premiums” over and over, and avoids giving a clear answer to the question. Is she on something? Is Obamacare giving her free happy pills or is she sobering from her mile high cocktails taken on the way there, aboard the private jet you and I helped pay for. Class act!

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