VP Pence Unveils Trump’s Space Force; Will Cost $8 Billion Over 5 Years

by | Aug 9, 2018 | Headline News | 128 comments

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    This report was originally published by Tyler Durden at Zero Hedge

    Back in March, President Trump first introduced the idea of a US “space force”, renewing a long-running debate that began almost 20 years ago whether the Pentagon’s space activities should be moved to a new command. Then in June, Trump explicitly called for the new branch to be created, despite resistance from the Air Force, which oversees military space programs.

    Fast forward to today, when Vice President Mike Pence announced the first steps in the creation of a space force as a entirely new military branch.

    Speaking alongside Defense Secretary James Mattis at the Pentagon Thursday, Pence announced that “establishing the Space Force is an idea whose time has come.”

    And while big questions remain – while the Pentagon has begun the process of establishing Space Force as a 6th branch of the U.S. military, only Congress has the power to establish a new branch of the military – one thing is clear: Trump’s reorganization of US defense will cost a lot of money, and for the first time we learned just how much when Mike Pence said that the Trump administration will call on Congress to allocate $8 billion over the next five years to establish the U.S. Space Force as the sixth branch of the military.

    “It’s not enough to have an American presence in space,” Pence said. “We must have American dominance in space. And so we will.”

    “Our adversaries have transformed space into a war fighting domain already and the United States will not shrink from this challenge,” Pence said. “History proves that peace only comes through strength, and in the realm of outer space, the United States space force will be that strength in the years ahead,” he added.

    Today there are “tens of thousands of military personnel, civilians and contractors operating and supporting our space systems, together they are the eyes and ears of America’s warfighters around the globe”, Pence said.

    Trump approved:

    The first step in the creation of Trump’s space force calls for the creation of U.S. Space Command, led by a four-star flag officer. The second step is the creation of an “elite group of joint warfighters specializing in the domain of space.”

    The report also calls for a Space Development Agency to develop new technologies, and establishing a new civilian position to oversee the standup of Space Force – an assistant secretary of defense for space.

    Curiously, while Secretary of Defense James Mattis previously disapproved of the idea saying last year he opposed creating additional bureaucracy at the Pentagon, on Thursday Mattis – perhaps impressed with all those billions that would be collected from taxpayers – changed his mind and said “space is one of our vital national interests” and is “no longer a new domain.”

    Still, a major hurdle remains as Congress would have to approve a new military service, and lawmakers have been divided on the idea. The new branch would need to compete for money with other big, politically protected Defense Department priorities that Congress already funds. However, as Pence said today, the administration is already working with Congress to get approval for the Space Force service branch, including Reps. Thornberry, Smith, Rogers, Cooper, and will ask for authorization in FY20 NDAA.

    What is strange is that the U.S. already has a space-based military footprint as Bloomberg notes:

    The sky is teeming with spy satellites and other platforms that support government surveillance, communications, weather forecasting and other activities. The Air Force also has a top-secret aircraft, the X-37B, built by Boeing Co., which orbits the earth for extended periods.

    But why spend less, when one can spend more?

    As Bloomberg further adds, the primary driver behind the push to formalize a space branch of the U.S. armed forces is motivated by space investment by Russia and China. In 2007, China fired a missile to destroy an aged weather satellite, demonstrating in a dramatic fashion its ability to deploy anti-satellite weapons.

    For those curious, following Mattis’ speech the DoD is expected to release a report to Congress on the creation of a separate Space Force.

    * * *

    Predictably, it did not take long for the Democrats to lash out at the idea. Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) on Thursday blasted the Trump administration’s commitment to a space force, and suggested its only moving forward because Republicans won’t speak out against it.

    “The VP just announced a new military branch – a ‘Space Force,’ because no R is willing to tell POTUS it’s a dumb idea,” Schatz tweeted.

    “Although ‘Space Force’ won’t happen, it’s dangerous to have a leader who cannot be talked out of crazy ideas,” he added, urging followers to elect Democrats in the November midterms.


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      1. The wonderous technilogical change that occurred due to NASA resulted in a vast technological that in some areas gave exponential growth.

        Similarly, Japan used MITI to do research and disseminate it to their kaisha bound industries who colaborate as powerhouse groups. And this had a similar effect.

        Why not do it again? I think the total privitazation of space is a dangerous idea as corporations would plant flags on moons, asteroids, and planets and supercede nation-states!

        It is one those rare instances where colonization by idependent groups of people coupled with joint ventures for trade use, then is useful as long as we do not repeat the mistakes of the past in cases where alien indigenous life is found.

        Imagine the monumental error of Soros owning a planet. And what if lifeforms are on it and if some billionaire wants to terraform it? Or what if a planet is within the sphere of influence of extraterrestrials?

        There are very important diplomatic elements to consider. That is why the Earth’s moon doesn’t belong to any nation….or worse, some corporation.

        • Now we need a big hulking space cannon that shoots directed energy beams. We’ll test it on Tehran.

          • Sir, you spelled Tehran wrong. The correct spelling is Tel Aviv. I know public schools have done wonders to us all, but please don’t let that happen again.

            • Jews are friends, islamic savages are enemy. Correct spelling indeed.

              • The Israelis are friends. The islamic trash are the enemy. Nothing is misspelled. However, your thought process is in question.

                • Since when did Iranians control our money supply? And who attacked the USS Liberty? Amazing the BS that is taught in public brainwashing schools. You been watching too much MSM Tel Aviv mainline BS. Parasites are your besties? Idiot. Cant wait for that civil war to clense America.. Needs a good scrubdown. Heavy bleach.

                  • You haters of God’s chosen people are gonna get a scrub down sure enough.

                    • Ever since a certain segment of the populace declared themselves “God’s chosen ones”, and used genocide to secure their “Promised Land”, humanity has used that as a template for wars of conquest ever since.

                      This is what happens when you call a psychopathic megalomaniacal genocidal imaginary sky daddy “God”.

                      Humanity has been cursed with wars ever since.

                      Maybe a new approaches exactly what’s required. The old one really sucks.

                    • “You haters of God’s chosen people are gonna get a scrub down sure enough.”

                      Sir, that is completely false. You and those like you who defend Israel, who can do no wrong in this world. Will be joining these chosen devils in an unpleasant afterlife place.

                    • How do hate something that does not exist? lol. Your point is baseless.

                    • Gods chosen people are the Cristian’s. According to the Talmud !! Jesus is boiling in a vat of sewage. Cristian’s are just New Testament converted Jews? Revalation 2:9 ,3:9 John 8:44 , How can anyone read that and not believe?

                    • The “chosen” people were Israelites.

                      DNA testing and documentary evidence show that most of the people living in Israel are not Israelites.

                    • What did Tehran ever do to you?

                    • The Jews were “once upon a time” God’s chosen people, but not any longer. Use common sense if you do not chose to study the BIBLE. Does it stand to reason God would continue a relationship with a people who would not accept God’s son as the Messiah Jesus Christ? They, the Jews, to this very day still reject Jesus.

                • Your Friends. The ones, 5 dancing mossad agents sent over to NY from Aviv to film the Twin Towers being hit by airplanes on 9-11. Your friends huh? Your friends that knee of the attacks and never warned the 3000 dead Americans. Your Friends? F-n Traitor parasites. Your friends. Open season scumbags, cant wait, no bag limit.

                  • Better hope it ain’t me you try.

                    • Any born again Christian recognizes them as friends and millions are armed patriots. I know you are a scum atheist, but the Lord would even accept you if you ask Jesus to save you.

                    • You mean the J3W scum that murdered Jesus?

                    • That’s a first man! You acknowledged His existence. There may be some hope for you. He went to the cross willingly and yes the Sanhedrin betrayed Him and he allowed the Romans to crucify Him. When He comes back though, every knee will bow. Mine and yours and we’ll answer for what we’ve done.

                    • Jebus been Awol for over 2000 yrs. How long would you wait for a date to show up before you realize you’ve been stood up? 20 mins? An hour? 2000 years? Lol. Sorry aint happening skippy Anti-American traitor lover.

                    • American Armed Patriots put America FIRST. Not you scum squatter parasites trying to suck the lifeblood out of out country. You sound pretty ignorant and a biggot.

                      No God would choose a parasite over humanity. You been reading too much fiction mezofrybrain.

                    • Well you blow, I’d say I’ll see you in hell but I won’t be there with you.

                    • Sorry again Muzofrybrain, more religious fraud, even the Pope Francis admitted there is no hell.

                    • You and the pope are both idiots then.

                • Zionists are the enemy of America. Christian zionists are their haplessly wayward, bastard children.

                  The true spelling is SATANISTS.

                  • zionists and J e w s are not one in the same.

                    • All Parasites every last one of them. All Evil to the core.

          • We can put Lebron James in orbit with the space cannon at the controls if we can simplify it enough for his ape brain to comprehend. It will not be easy to do this, but dammit we’ll try.

          • I thought it had supposedly been tested on California already.







          • Eisenkraut, I don’t know if they will have a space program or not, but I do remember back in the sixties when Kennedy sent a message to to NASA and said send a coon to the moon by June, and NASA sent a message back that said, the Jig is up.

        • Uhhh the USA IS a corporation…

      2. “VP Pence Unveils Trump’s Space Force; Will Cost $8 Billion Over 5 Years”

        Hey, here’s an idea. How about investing $8 Billion back into the country that is desperately needed and fuck off with your illegal Space Force bullshit.

        People support this dumbass (trump) nonsense bullshit?

        • Wow….please go refill your meds man!!!

          • I don’t believe they can cure or even treat a scum ass liberal/progressive turd. A bullet maybe.

            • $8 billion will pay for a lot of bullets, more than enough to permanently erradicate all liberals, muslims, niggas, and scumbag politicians and lawyers, and Make Earth Great Again.

              • I like yer style! 🙂

              • People don’t know about many of the facts about NASA, but when it shut down in Cape Canaveral they left a huge toxic waste dump behind. And its projected to take over 100 years to clean the mess up. Another costly SuperFund waste cleanup the US Taxpayers get the Tab for.

                Any project the Graberment claims would cost, easy double and triple that amount. Look at the failed F-35 project and many others. Its a lot of fun when its other peoples money. Id rather see the money spent on infrastructure like shovel ready jobs like road and bridge construction, Free and open internet with full free speech, not this frightened pussy moderation holding tank for approval bs.

      3. Exactly the reason this planet is set to be removed from the Universe. Peace. You have not achieved Peace. 🙂

      4. First, 8 billion seems like a lot until you realize it isn’t very much due to inflation that’s about 4 billion in 1990 dollars. Then we could reasonably expect a 14 fold return on investment.

        Spend 8 billion and get 72 billion back. Works for me!

        • Remember GW Bush saying the OIL will pay for the war and the Low IQ minions jumped in line, lock step. OK so $5 to $7 Trillion wasted later. All we got was $4.50 a gallon gas pump prices. Its all BS lies. All costly fraud and plunder.

          • I think it’s tragic that an intellgent person can’t be bothered to look up the FACT that NASA has a 14 fold return on investment.

            But what is ridiculous is the FACT that it is obvious given practically all technological advances that occurred after the space program profoundly affect 100% of Americans daily.

            Name a government program outside NASA and the IRS that shows that kind of profit. I suspect you cannot.

            • Maranatha… Your NASA Profit claims are baseless unless you post a True Verifiable link. Next you will claim the moon is made of Green Cheese. Proof or facts, you know what that is?

                • President Trump, please have someone on your staff Google these names, solar warden – William Tompkins, ’20 and Back program’, Dr. Steven Greer, Project Serpo, Phil Schneider.

                  Then direct people in charge of our current “secret space program” give you a full briefing. We already have a space program that has cost tax payers trillions of dollars over the past 70 year,

                  I’m sure Dr. Greer would, at his own expense, give you a full briefing at the Whitehouse.

      5. Well, we’ve got NASA, NORAD, AFSpace command,Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command,United States Army Space and Missile Defense Command and several dozen other strategic military and government command structures that overlap, undercut and soak up budget to the tune of WAAAAAAY more than 8B$ over 5 years. All those little bureaucratic domains would go away under one command with a dedicated(ie all as one branch of the military) force of personnel. The military is standing up and down various wings, divisions, battalions, squadrons etc all the time to the tune of billions each year, 8 billion over 5 years is nothing and while creating a new bureaucracy it will cut out many layers of proprietary BS interfering with keeping the nation safe through the domain of space.

        • Eliminate layers of bureaucracy and unnecessary commands? Thanks, I needed a good one today.

        • Id demand the pentagon be forced to produce a zero based budget. Probably would save $300 to $400 Billiin a year. So what happened to Trumps big audit of the Pentagon? Crickets….

          The MIC Mafia are licking their chops and already ordering personal yachts for this plunder windfall profits. We need to tske the profit out of Warfare. This $8 Billion is borrowed money that some banker will lend for a massive profit. Another Goldman Sachs, Duwee Cheatem and How ripoff.

      6. A space force to protect the empty space in this governments heads. A space force to take out anyone from afar who objects to the appointed grand poohbah dictates. A space force to exterminate non capitalist thinking threats. A space force to welcome the incoming occupying aliens, but wtfdik.

      7. This a bunch of non-feasible nonsense. There’s nothing wrong with putting some type of satellites in space as a defense against Russian/Chinese satellites, but the costs must be controlled. 8 billion dollars is a lot of money. And if Trump’s plan includes developing Space Soldiers and a bunch of space stations it will never be feasible. No one is that adept at putting humans in space and never will be, because there is too much to overcome. This will sound like a stupid cliché, but man was not made for outer space, and that’s the reality of it. Also why must man now litter and pollute space? It’s time to clean up the mess they’ve made here on our earth.

        • Maybe. But if we end up making a future for the species in space and we are allowed to vote on what it should look like, mark me down for a Firefly future.

        • We spend 60 billion a year keeping up the scum illegals. Drop in bucket to that. Let’s cut the scum off and have a better space force and save some dough.

          • You’re right about cutting off the illegals, they are entitled to nothing….. they’re law breakers. US citizens who break the law and are in jail for more than 30 days do not get to draw there social security checks while incarcerated. So why should these illegal law breakers get anything?! But then you would have all the liberal snowflakes crying about it, and I would say ” then you support them”.

          • America also sends Israel Billions of dollars a year for absolutely no logical reason at all, yet you are fine with this kind of charity?

            You “born again christians” are without a doubt, full blown retarded.

            • No, I am not fine with sending Israel billons of dollars for no apparent reason. As I’ve said many times the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people. They did not accept Jesus when he walked the earth, and they still do not accept him today. Some Christian Americans believe the Jews are still favored by God, but this is not true. Why would God favor someone who called for Christ’ death? As for you Anonymous, when the time comes for Christ’ return, we will see who is the “retarded” ones. I hope you change your mind before that time.

          • I agree time to deport all these sqatter dual citizen scum back to their 3rd world country shtt holes they created.

            Also cut off the professional victim beggar welfare loser queens. And shut down the holohoax wax museums.

          • Who will mow your lawn and cook your food? You are one silly boy.

        • 8 billion is shit! The chosen ones demand 64 BILLION from US! And being the chew lover he is Trump will hand it over to his masters asap!

      8. The Sky isn’t the Limit, but our National Bank Account is.

        • Add some more zeros. Nobody cares.

      9. Without NASA, there wouldn’t have been small practical nuclear reactors, digital electronics, data transmission, personal computers, satellite technology, modern ballistics, advances in communications, digital displays, etc.

        In other words, practically technology of the information age got its start due to NASA. How many government agencies actually make money? Other than the IRS and NASA, all cost more than they make in profit.

        What sadly happened was very few Americans understood the vast leaps in technology as a result of space exploration. All they saw was moon missions of which they rapidly got bored.

        When in fact there were ambitious plans at establishing a lunar base that would have not only paid for itself by various things like space telescopes very early on, but mining technology advances and likely rocket launches from space which is cheap by comparison to Earth based launches which are very expensive.

        Space based weapons like nuclear missiles would be far safer on the moon versus land based and even submarine based.

        • I think it’s Heinlein’s The Moon is a Harsh Mistress in which an established lunar colony of mixed immigrants (rather like American history) who declare their independence and start chucking manmade asteroids by busting up lunar rock and immediately Earth nations cave to their demands as such asteroids would far exceed the immense force of nuclear ICBMs and would be unstopable.

          It takes very little to create such powerful weapons, but to launch similar force from the Earth due to gravity is nigh impossible. That is how vauable low gravity is.

          It’s theorized extremely strong metals could be formed in space that could never be replicated on the Earth.

        • Yes, lets take a chance on blowing up the moon and really make the earth unlivable.

          • Touche`.

            Don’t shoot the messenger. That’s a worst case scenario.

        • Don’t forget Tang!

          • Sir, you forgot the prefix.

            PU –

            • Lol, how could I forget! The memories of a man in his old age … but I was referring to the orange drink made popular by astronauts in the 1960’s.

        • They are reserving the moon for advertising…

          • Thats right Genius. Im sure with the laser technology today they could engrave the moon surface with a laser for advertising. Similar to the slap in the face the Souix Indians got with the white mans engraving at Mt Rushmore. Shhhh dont give em and ideas.

      10. Still, people many years ago probably thought the idea of an Air Force was crazy.

        The Marine Corps is part of the Navy. The Space Force should be just a part of the Air Force, which is where all the assets are right now anyway.

        It shouldn’t cost $8 billion just to reassign some people and have some new patches manufactured.

        • Thanks for that, best laugh I’ve had today.

      11. A “space force” makes much more sense than having other branches of the military with other areas of expertise in warfare trying to add a new and unrelated mission to their agenda along with all the needed personnel and facilities involved.

      12. From space we can clean up the crap down here, including the ballooning populations of mud people. Just as the Air Force made it possible to do area bombing, so space will make it possible to take out any menace or country. The world population has to come down by 4 billion at least. Where we have very healthy genes, we need to encourage more early breeding. Pair up 16 year olds with mature men of 50 plus so the child has a father with money. Switch to a more advanced human species.

        Space is also the final frontier. We need to boldly go where no man, sorry, trans, black woman has gone before. These will be the voyages of the Star ship The Donald.

        As we know, there already is a space command and has been since the end of World War Two. They are just acknowledging it now.

      13. Cost 8 billion over 5 years

        That’s just the down payment. Wonder who will be the real recipients of said monies. I guess people are wise to who gets foreign aide. Could launder lots of dirty money with a space scam. Who knows what this is. Could be a set up for a fake alien threat from the skies. Tech images reflected back to earth? There might be airplanes headed for the Twin Towers in the clouds. Stay calm. It is not real. It Israel.


        • The Pentagon can’t even account for 25% of their annual budgets now. Thats $175 Billion a year disappeared into somebody’s pockets. The US Govnt is a complete Fraud.

          • They help fund chemtrailing with it.

        • B from CA: They have run out of ways to figure out how on Earth to spend more money that we don’t have. The sky is the limit now.

          • Just one space shuttle load of Helium3 from the moon could power the US for an entire year. Wanna know why China wants to land on the moon? To harvast this Helium3 energy source. In my opinion.

            • TSB,
              Were that but the case that the United States was going to lead the nations of the world on a noble venture to the moon to retrieve clean, limitless energy for all the people on Earth, I would be all on-board with my little shovel. At this point in time though, having abandoned our shuttle program and heavy lift rocketry, I do not believe that 8 billion over 5 years would be enough to get us back into low Earth orbit much less to the moon and back with crew, new craft, and technology to harvest the H3 isotope in quantity. Then there is the fact that no one has yet developed a sustainable fusion reactor that yields a net power output. I am not saying that research into these should not go forward or even that the US should not reestablish its dominance in space exploration. It should, in my opinion. Mr. Trump, however, has not well articulated his vision for the Space Force beyond the establishment of a new military command with an ill-defined mission. Color me skeptical but all I am seeing is another boondoggle for the military-industrial complex that will grow into another government monstrosity that will intrude its way into our lives and never go away.

      14. You have never successfully terraformed and colonized planet Earth, to maintain the social contract of the 1950’s.

      15. This has been here for years now. Trump is just bring it to the fore front to let the world know how far behind they are.

        You really don’t believe those flying triangles are from Mars do you?


        • There is some very recent scuttlebutt on Mars regarding mysterious maintenance done on equipment on the planet. Ahem.

      16. Another head fake to let the Mongoloid ChiComs know we will match them in space.
        8 billion is not a lot of real money today.
        The US federal government spends approx. $50K a minute. Yes. One minute. $50K.

        • Wrong, do the math. $700 Billion annual budget. 365 days a year x 24 hours x 60 mins = 525.600 mins in a year.

          The US Govnt spends $1,331,811. Every minute. Or $1.33 Million every minute 24/7/365. Aint no $50 K a min skippy. More public school edufumucation skills there eh polo polo?

        • Uhhh we have no REAL money today….

          • Real Money= Gold n Silver Been that way for 5000 years now.

      17. Off Topic:

        1. Danville, California-some type of operation. Preparation for what?

        2. Today July 9th, 2018 we have reached the one million mark.

        As of today, the USA has treated one million vets for injuries due to war.



        • War or police actions?

      18. Although a space force could consist of satellites and weapons like rod of god or something simple, I don’t believe in most of NASA’s “space travel” stories.

        For one thing, the technology back in the sixties was not very advanced to take on manned space voyages. What about the micro meteorites, the radiation, the extreme heat and cold?

        If you study some of the systems supposedly used in manned space travel, it is easy to see that it was a fabrication. How do you go on a 12 1/2 day space flight with a diaper to hold eight days of shit that needed to be worn until splash down? How did they keep cool on a 10 hour moon walk? They describe an air conditioner type of backpack, but if you read the explanation of how that could work in a vacuum, it is bogus. Closed system, you say? AC doesn’t work in a closed system. It needs to vent either water or water vapor to eliminate the heat.

        There are many, many discrepancies in government propaganda as seen on the teevee for 50 years. So much of the crap we have been fed and are still being fed by the government and it’s media lackeys is false and with just a bit of research you can see that.

        This is why they will shut down or censor the internet to only mirror the story they want you to believe. We have been so gullible… Eddie Bernays would be proud of himself.

        • And what affiliation owns and controls ? Isn’t it obvious? Ounce again, Revalation 2:9, 3:9 John 8:44 . I must be boring somebody?

        • And Buzz Aldren even said it was bullshit lol!

        • The 1998 BMW M3 that i iwned had more technology engineered in it than the first space shuttles.

          A Damn fast ultimate driving machine. Went 149 mph over the Gandy bridge in Tampa Bay once. It was still climbing but I ran out of bridge.

      19. Another out of this world topic:

        Otto Von Bismarck was shot twice by an English 3ew. But the bullets had no real effect. Miracle? The king thought so, and gave him the position and power he wanted.


        • Miracle? NO

          Bullet proof vest? YES

          • Anonymous:

            They say three bullets grazed him as he grabbed the gun away from the assailant. Two shots fired richochet off his ribs. But like you, my first thought was to question whether or not he wore some type of protection in the form of a bullet proof vest. The claim is that the gun was pressing so tightly against his body that it created a kind of vacuum. I tend to favor your conclusion.

            The official story about the shooter is also suspicious. He died in police custody, an apparent suicide. Who cuts their own throat? I think the attempted assassin probably was a victim of instant “justice” and “police ‘brutality’”. Things were a little different before the age of law suits.


        • There is so much I don’t know!

      20. It was just a matter of when, not if. I’m concerned about omnipotent power being abused especially if its so one sided that preemptive attack becomes plausible. Conversely its also inevitable that China would militarily “reach for the stars”. Stone, club, lance, bow and arrow, cannon / firearm, aircraft, rocket……….space and ray gun; its unstoppable. We MAY be able to thwart the erosion of the Bill Of Rights however. Advancement of military power / technology will not be stopped.

        • So when the aliens come I should agree to go with them? Maybe hitch a ride off this retard ranch? Hang out with Art Bell? Cool! 😀

          • I remember “The Twilight Zone” episode “To Serve Man”. No thanks, if given a choice I’ll stay here with the kooks I know rather than the potential cooks I don’t know.

      21. Meanwhile, our infrastructure, from dams, to bridges and underground systems, is crumbling and our electric grid needs some serious updating and added layers of security.

      22. Looks like the swamp creatures and thugs headed up by professional con artist Donald Trump found a way to line their pockets and pad their bank accounts without getting caught. Anyone who actually believes the $ Billions are actually going into this space program, well, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. And some cheap land in Florida too.

        • Actually a lot more than $8 billion will go into the program as thats the “teaser” fee. The contracts will be cost plus, every Congressman will try to get some of the jobs in their district. Think an Air Force toiler seat is expensive? You ain’t seen nothing yet. MICs bottomless pit.

          • And yet you and others here think this is okay? That its a wise use of our tax dollars that will secretly be funneled into their bank accounts and trust funds and not used for its intended purpose. How will we ever REALLY know for certain if all/most of the Billions went into Trumps alleged “Space Force”. Oh, wait, because FOX news said so. Got it.

            • OK? Unavoidable. There is zero your going to do about it. China will militarize space defensively or offensively. The US will beat them to the chase. I just hope no one gets too much of the upper hand to actually use the weaponry with the thought of victory. Checks and balances of the accounting? Great thought, never happen. I’m not an optimist? Correct, I’m a realist.

      23. BTW, there are two totally different posters on here who have been posting as Anonymous.

        • How do we know it’s you if you really are who you say you are? No matter where you go, there you are.

        • Anonymous:

          There is a relatively easy solution. Pick a pseudonym like everyone else. There are multiple people posting anonymously, not just you and somebody else.


          • Yeah, B, except that I’m not complaining or looking for a solution. It was just an FYI. Thought I’d throw it out there.

            Been that way for almost a year and neither of us said anything until now. Most often the other Anonymous says what I was thinking but didn’t post. Great minds think alike, as they say. Going forward, if he/she posts something I disagree with I’ll let everyone know by telling them “I am not the Anonymous who said that.” Haha.

      24. Q’apla! Are we joining the Federation?

      25. NASA falsified the Moon landings. Why? Because they realized human space travel is not possible. Things haven’t changed since then.

        What you’re seeing with this Space Force nonsense is exactly that. More nonsense. It’ll just be a venue for more massive money laundering while the public is treated to more studio filming, green screening and CGI.

        • GTFOOH

        • Joe

          So Russia hoodwinked their people too along with the below?

          Long-term ISS crew, by nationality[edit]

          Tracy Caldwell Dyson in the Cupola module of the International Space Station observing Earth
          Nationality ISS Crew/Members
          United States 51
          Russia 39
          Japan 6
          Germany 3
          Italy 3
          France 2
          Canada 2
          Belgium 1
          Netherlands 1
          United Kingdom 1

      26. When the Chinese zap all our satellites with space based weapons and drop hypersonic miissels on us from orbiting weapons platforms my only hope is that you ignorant short sighted morons are in the target areas. This is expensive but our future enemies are doing it RIGHT NOW. Choosing to ignore reality doesn’t make it less real. Some of you would choose to leave us wide open in this area so the money could be spent here at “home” more free phones , maybe internet or free laptops for everyone right. This is where warfare is headed, our enemies see us as vulnerable here and they are right. But hey everything will be fine our 10 carrier Navy will certianly protect us from any space threat right.

      27. So, what happened to the Outer Space Treaty banning the weaponization of space? Another raw deal for the US, hence “Fuhgeddaboudit” ???

        Well, at least now we know what the X-37B unmanned space plane has been up to.

        • “So, what happened to the Outer Space Treaty banning the weaponization of space?”

          I think it was filed next to the US Indian Treaties and adjacent to the promise given to Gorbachev that NATO would not expend into Eastern Europe.

          • Extend not expend…….

            • Kevin2:

              You forgot THE GENEVA CONVENTION.

              The USA did not violate the Geneva Convention after ww2, we circumvented it. The result: one and a half million (1,500,000) dead Germans. More than killed in four years of battle.

              “Enjoy the war, the peace will be brutal.”


              • The only German POW I know was a baker in the town I grew up in. He spoke very highly of his treatment as as a POW in the US.

                • Kannten Sie ihn auch? Er war ein sehr guter Freund von mir.

              • “Enjoy the war, the peace will be brutal.”

                Ain’t it the truth.

      28. There are videos on youtube showing deep space objects of all shapes, sizes and colors clearly seen in outer space said to be miles long. Some of these videos are taken by backyard telescope users. Also sites that claim that the US already has giant spaceships in space. Look up deep space ufo’s and see for yourself. So who knows what is out there already.

      29. Melania looks pretty hot in that space suit.

      30. If we actually had a frank discussion on Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism, I would participate and explain the many theological errors. But not in a topic on NASA.

        However in brief…

        There is almost nothing in common between the 12 tribes of Israel and modern self-declared Hebrews who falsely claim membership in the tribe of Judah.

        And then, once people understood the Biblical definition, and without animosity, explain why Christian zionism is wrong, then you would understand. And then discuss why do people persist with this false idea that postmodern Hebrews are the chosen people, which is not Biblical.

        The reality is the Israelites were YHWH’s chosen people BUT other verses then alter this by including Christians as inheritors of YHWH’s covenant with Abraham. That is Biblical and I’m perfectly happy and able to calmly discuss that.

        Basucally all you need is this passage to see how that is valid.

        19Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

        23But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

        Sons Through Faith in Christ

        26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither J ew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
        Galatians 3:19-29

        The 12 tribes were Israelites under the promise but rejected Jesus. And in 1 John, whoever denies Jesus has neither YHWH nor Jesus and thus is an antichrist.

        Christians DEFINITELY are under YHWH’s promise to Abraham. If you don’t believe it, then Galatians proves it!

        There are similar passages. I can’t help it if you don’t know the Bible. That honestly is a fault of your pastor and laziness as the Bible is crystal clear on this topic.

      31. Aliens are demons. The great deception will come in the form of aliens offering peace on earth for all people. They’ll offer us some kind of wonderful genetical cure-all for humanity, ending suffering, diseases, death etc… but that amazing cure-all they offer will be nothing less than THE MARK OF THE BEAST which also changes our DNA. Once your God made DNA has been altered by these deceiving devils you’ll render yourself beyond salvation… Stand fast, trust in Jesus The Messiah. He will be returning very soon.

      32. We need a space force like my nuts need an olive oil bath.

      33. You would think that hardening the entire US grid would be a higher priority for a 2 billion. Knowing that the deep state and breakaway civilization is already operating tech a 100+ years into the future for over two decades now.

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