Video: They Have Been Ordered To “Weaponize the Government Against Unregulated Speech”

by | Nov 12, 2014 | Headline News | 318 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    When we talk about tyranny we often associate it with images of Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin. But as Bill Whittle notes in the following Firewall commentary, in modern-day America tyranny manifests in many different forms and takes on many different faces.

    And unlike despots of the past, the faces of modern day tyrants are smiling and look completely innocent, but their sinister intentions can be seen by their actions.

    They have, as Whittle warns, weaponized the government with the end game being the complete stifling of free speech. Because once they shut down the flow of information and open discourse it is they who will control the narrative.

    They don’t like being told what to do, or to think — the way nice people do. So she has been ordered to weaponize the government against unregulated speech — we don’t call it “free speech” any more because that term is archaic and also probably racist.

    First, regulate everything. How on earth with people like Ann Ravel and, for that matter, the President of the United States, ever be able to feel secure when the American people are just running around starting businesses willy-nilly, or irresponsibly making internet videos that don’t conform to the Official Truth, or reading news stories — “news stories!” — on places like Fox or the Drudge Report.

    No, the idea of something being unregulated — like, say, the internet — is anathema to these control freaks, so the chance to regulate something — anything — is good to go right out of the gate.

    Full Transcript via Truth Revolt

    Watch and share this incredibly insightful video:

    To the modern tyrant the battlefield is everywhere and nowhere has it become more apparent than in cyberspace, where soldiers of the machine who claim they are just following orders actively work to supplant and undermine the voice of the people.

    As Whittle highlighted in the video above, government officials are working to discredit anything that is not part of the mainstream narrative.

    They’ll use the Federal Elections Committee to shut down any free political thought. They’ll use the IRS and the threat of prison to intimidate organizations and individuals that don’t tow the party line.

    But they aren’t just targeting the organizers or those who produce content and videos that run counter to their ideals. They’re coming after the people as a whole. Your social network pages, forum comments, emails, and phone calls are being monitored .

    Moreover, there is clear evidence according to a Department of Homeland Security insider that the very communities where people get together to share ideas are being targeted en masse by paid disinformation agents whose sole purpose is to destroy the credibility of the message through targeted web site takedowns and direct attacks against their users.

    Then, you will see the internet being regulated in a manner that will serve only the agenda of this administration. Either right before or during these events, so-called citizen journalists will be particularly vulnerable. Watch for a serious crackdown of bloggers, online news publications and websites, but not in the way that will be immediately obvious.

    The ‘plumbers team’ have coordinated their efforts with Internet Service Providers to identify the people like you and others who publish their information on web sites.

    At first they will cite violations of terms of service. Then, they will select a few ‘troublemakers’ and identify them for criminal prosecution. Others will experience hacking and other electronic attacks. And during all of that, there will be the Obama team flooding the internet with misinformation and disinformation. In fact, that is already taking place.

    The attacks are coming from all sides – this is asymmetric warfare against the American people.



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      1. “there is clear evidence according to a Department of Homeland Security insider that the very communities where people get together to share ideas are being targeted en masse by paid disinformation agents whose sole purpose is to destroy the credibility of the message through targeted web site takedowns and direct attacks against their users.”

        You mean like the red thumb menace???

        • LOL – EXACTLY!

          This was my way of complaining about it publicly without complaining about it publicly!




          • **green thumb for Mac**

            • Just wait, this Government will try to Regulate the Internet for “2 Big Reasons,” they control the On/Off Switch, and also a method for them to assign a Tax.

              When they start taxing, the number of emails or the amount of content you download, or number of hours you have your computer on, or logged on to, they will figure out a Toll Booth to tax us. And they also know this is one big forum they do not have control on, to control our speech and thoughts. As they get busted most every time as we the people expose their corruption. They don’t like getting caught like Fast and Furious, or COP Block videos exposing Cops beating the shit out of people.

              Power to the People, as the Internet empowers us, and now we have tasted freedom again, and TP2B can;t stand the fact that they cannot control us. Never give up, Never surrender your Guns, Never submit to Tyranny, and expose them at every turn. WWTI

              • WWTI, I would give you a green thumb but we don’t have that system anymore. Excellent post.

              • WWT,
                Nah, it won’t be a tax, it’ll be a fee, kinda like Obolacare isn’t a tax, it is a fee. SARCASM

                • Wilson;
                  I know you said it with sarcasm, but I truly think we are heading the way of free internet.

                  Think about it, the sheeple would fall over themselves in support of it and the .gov would have total control over all information, could stifle dissent and track anyone they want.


              • WhoWuddaThunkIt,

                It looks like they are already working on increased regulation of the internet and more taxes on it.

                Obama: Regulate broadband Internet like a utility so it ‘works for everyone’
                He has Proposed “treating broadband services like utilities”, so it can be taxed.
                -Cnet dot com

                FCC Plans Stealth Internet Tax Increase

                The “Federal Communications Commission, without statutory authority, is proposing to expand its taxation and regulation of the Internet.”

                “The relationship between the Internet and government has become a useful barometer of personal and economic freedom.

                Oppressive governments use the Internet to oppress political enemies, censor ideas, and spy on citizens. The United Nations and other international organizations see the Internet as an untapped opportunity for tax revenues and regulations to support political favorites.”

              • I’m sure that when Al Gore invented the internet he had no idea it would ever be taxed or regulated….Say it isn’t so, Al!

              • America is being taken down from within, and set up to fall hard. Locking down the net is just one more facet of that.

                There are so many things happening in the background, that could be viewed as “coincidences”, if they were not happening at the same time as everything else.

                • People are getting fed up and taking non-aggressive actions that are upsetting the minions of TPTB. A recent one was a few folks taking pictures outside of the office of the DEA in Jacksonville. A few of the agents came outside and tried to intimidate the photographers but it didn’t work. That was a real stupid move because now these agents faces are all over YouTube so it’s impossible for them to go undercover. The Sipsey Street Irregulars posted the names and addresses of all Connecticut state senators and representatives that voted “Yes” last year on the gun ban. This has angered, and/or frightened them, but this is what happens when people feel they are being pushed too far. The time will come when nearly every cop and regulator, be they federal, state, or local, will have their names, addresses (work and home), and photos posted for everyone to see by various groups, or even individuals, who feel they are being pushed around and want to let those people know that they too are being watched. I just hope no one decides to take the law into their own hands. There is no excuse for initiating violence.

            • Green Thumb for Mac and Charley

              Live Free or Die…the writing is on the wall for “that guy”

              • The end of the 1st Amendment for free speech:
                it was a long time coming,
                but it didn’t take long once it got here.

                • OutWest, you can still claim those rights given to us by God, NOT by government. I still claim them and I’ll die fighting to defend them if necessary.

                  • But you’ll lick the boots of those who steal them everywhere everyday.

                    You must be extremely conflicted from within and you seem to have a wavering weak mind. Kind of like a wave tossed to and fro or a blade of wheat blowing in the field this way and that.

                    • BJ, how do you know that? My mind is NOT weak and I never lick ANYONE’S boots whether they’re left or right. You have me confused with someone else.

                  • You know Braveheart, your post goes deeper than most realize.

                    ..’cuz said rights ‘are indeed’ GOD given…they are not to be regulated to mere govt or any entity that self-appoints themselves, an ability to regulate…or redefine them, per their view / interpretation..of such…at our expense!


                    The Founding Father’s of our now beleaguered Republic, recognized such a future threat…and spoke out and proffered sound such as our genre / time-period.

           would do well (for us & our progeny), if all here were to read the Federalist Papers and its time period history..and reflect upon the speeches and quotes, the trials and tribulations, endured by those brave men…who centuries ago…merely codified onto parchment, via quill & ink-pot..after unparallelled suffrage..

                    ..the will of GOD(see Constitution, original B.O.R.)..for a free & independent people to flourish upon a continent..worthy, of those whom recognized his dominion and blessings…and were willing to ‘FIGHT and DIE’ for such!!!!!


                    ..on a personal note:

                    I know this rant offends the unbelieving types here..

           be it! But know this guys..

                    …your freedom to speak, write / post, rail against said foundational systems, embraced by the founders of this nation..

                    ..was purchased via buckets of blood / sweat and tears..

           as you may enjoy the benefits of their sacrifice..per their beliefs / faith.

                    ..OK…I’m done w/ running off on a tangent!


                    NOTE to BIG BROTHER…& Ann Ravel and company, etc:

                    …a word of caution, assholes!

                    You have ‘NO IDEA’ of the level of talent, skill-sets and resolve..that exists out here in fly-over country..nor can you begin to suspect the depth of the preparation and planning, that’s been ‘PROOFED’.

           are much more vulnerable..than you realize!!!


                    Thus:…prior to making your move nationally:..

                    ..tell your ‘Jack-booted-thugs’…to pack plenty of MREs & a shit-load of body-bags…

                    ..’cuz you fuckers are in for a….long, drawn out…nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                    ***thanks ‘Brave’…I really had to get that…off my chest!

                    ..thumbs up to ya, sir!

                    • +1

                    • Nice post. Thanks Hunter

                    • It was a good rant!

                      Thank you!

                    • Hunter, you took some thunder from me but that’s OK. Excellent post, the feeling is mutual, you can bank on that. Nobody is regulating my speech, I don’t care who they are. As far as BJ is concerned he can bite my ass.

                    • “if all here were to read the Federalist Papers”

                      Have you ever read the anti-federalist papers?

                      There were many founding fathers that have been wiped from the pages of history, they where against the idea of establishing a federalist government with control over the countries/states/sovereigns of the newly formed republic.

                      The anti-federalist may have had a point considering what a large ever expanding federalist government has got us into.

                      Not easy to understand the conditions that got us where we are today, history is a hard “covered” book.

                    • Got no reply except from an old combat guy,,, Hooahh

                  • I may not believe they were God given rights and you may not see me, but you won’t stand alone. Molon Labe, more than 500 stand with you.

                    • Para…our differences aside…!

                      ..I’d volunteer to fight beside you..per your courage..which has never altered, per several years here at the ‘plan’ and your (past)postings!

             are “NOT’ a fake!!!

                      ..I respect that, sir..your post are consistent!

                    • Paranoid, I’ll stand by your side also.

                    • I have no significant differences with anyone that stands for the rights of individuals to make their own destiny. Heaven, Hell or neither people have the right to go their own way and pay the ticket

                • 1st amendment is as important as the 2d amendment. When the internet is regulated, I will no longer pay the ISP fee just like I will never register a gun!

            • Heads up…

              People Are Going To Be In For A Shock’: Penalty For Uninsured Not Signing Up For Obamacare To More Than TRIPLE

              “Uninsured Americans who decide not to enroll will face a penalty of $325 per person, more than tripling the $95 penalty those who did not enroll had to pay the first time around.

              Children under the age of 18 will be fined $162.50. The maximum amount an uninsured family will be penalized is $975 under the flat-rate method.”

              Drudge Report

              They plan to fine CHILDREN. Unbelievable!

              Many people couldn’t afford the HIGH rates LAST YEAR. So, they believe folks will be able to afford the EVEN HIGHER RATES THIS YEAR.

              Obamacare: Unaffordable – outrageous rates and huge deductibles.

              I know a family that has Obamacare. The cost is expensive and they have a $5000 deductible per family member. One of their children needs to see a specialist. The specialists are NOT even on the approved list.

                • KY Mom, Went to a DR today, minor superficial procedure. I said I didn’t have insurance and was paying Cash. The DR smiled. I said so what do you think about Obama Care? He said don’t get me started. Then he went onto rant about the Government taking over the Internet since they do such a great job with everything else. Paid Cash and out the door. No tracking, no claims filed and I deduct the expense off my Taxes.

              • Clarification…

                Only AMERICAN CHILDREN will be fined for not having health insurance.

                All illegal alien children and their families will be covered 100% and get FREE health insurance.

                • “They plan to fine CHILDREN. Unbelievable!”

                  With Ocommiecare you are now born a felon. Think about it, this means that refusing to sign up for Ocommiecare will make you ineligible to vote or own a firearm. Think I’m crazy, again, you better think about it.

                  • Maddog, that is insane. I won’t be signing up for Ocommiecare, period. let the f#$%ers bring it on.

                    • Obamacare “architect” was typical lefty jew Jonathan Gruber. He recently made himself famous saying Americans are stupid and implied that we should not be allowed to vote. And that their new laws should be rammed through via lies and deceit, rather than public awareness.

                      “In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed… Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass… Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not” .

                • Also people who have children under 18 working in the house salarly will now count as total household income

                • Simplest solution….everyone go to payroll HR and change tax status to 99. Don’t file taxes in the spring adn dont pay insurance penalty

                  • I also found this on yahoo… I think these guys had the right idea:

                    “Muslim parents demanded the abolition of pork in all the school cafeterias of Ath in Belgium.

                    Marc Duvivier the mayor of Ath refused, and the town clerk sent a note to all parents to explain why.

                    “Muslims must understand that they have to adapt to Belgium, its customs, its traditions, its way of life, because that’s where they chose to immigrate.

                    They must understand that they have to integrate and learn to live in Belgium.

                    They must understand that it is for them to change their lifestyle, not the Belgians who so generously welcomed them.

                    They must understand that the Athois are neither racist nor xenophobic, they accepted many immigrants before Muslims (whereas the reverse is not true that Muslims do not accept non-Muslim foreigners on their soil).

                    That no more than other nations, the Belgians are not willing to give up their identity, their culture.

                    And if Belgium is a land of welcome, it’s not Marc Duvivier that welcomes foreigners, but the Belgian people as a whole.

                    Finally, they must understand that in Belgium with its Judeo-Christian roots, Christmas trees, churches and religious festivals, religion must remain in the private domain. The municipality of Ath was right to refuse any concessions to Islam and Sharia.

                    For Muslims that disagree with secularism and do not feel comfortable in Belgium, there are 57 beautiful Muslim countries in the world, most of them under-populated and ready to receive them with open halal arms in accordance with Shariah.

                    If you left your country for Belgium, and not for other Muslim countries, it is because you have considered that life is better in Belgium than elsewhere.

                    Ask yourself the question, just once, “Why is it better here in Belgium than where you come from?”

                    pork is part of the answer “

                    • Thumbs up for the mayor in Belgium.

              • People need to look at Health share plans if they don’t want ObunglerUnCare. Samaritan, Christian Healthshare, Liberty are just a few. We use Liberty, and are VERY pleased, and reasonably prices. Just google it. You cant smoke, use illegal drugs, or drink to excess, but a couple in their late fifties will pay around $300 per month. Why on earth would you use COBRA or ObunglerCare. Deductibles are also very reasonable.

                • JoeBlow, Did u have to go threw the market place and get a exempt number for it to be accepted. Be prepared for that if you didn’t.

          • I’m all for not having the existing rating system. To say it was getting ridiculous is an understatement. Now the trolls will have to expose themselves, if they dare.

            • Navy Vet does this mean I can stop ignoring them now? I hope so cause I sure wasn’t very good at it.

              • It was the only way I knew you loved me. 🙂

                • The new format is working better than my wildest expectations.

                  • But …but … I love voting!!! 🙂

                    • USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! 🙂

                • I would have given you a thumbs up for that one!

            • Yikes! Leftist trolls “exposing” themselves. Is that why I have seen Harry Reid in a raincoat and obviously not wearing pants recently?

            • Yeah, No more hiding in the shadow Coward Red Thumbs. If you disagree you need to post content to state your case. Time for everybody to step up to the plate and be part of the solution.

          • 5 green thumbs bud!

          • 5 Piled On Green Thumbs for Mac, He hears us.. I have no problem playing Bad Cop Good Cop. I like the Bad Cop Part, and calling out those who wish to do us and our Country harm. WWTI

            • There are no good cops, only the color of good cop 🙂

              • Oh, thats good! “Color of Good” cop. Hehehehe. 🙂

                • 🙂

          • Video: They Have Been Ordered To “Weaponize the Government Against Unregulated Speech”

            I’m so bummed. With some growing cognitive dissonance too. Let me explain.

            #1. Celebrate Veterans Day. In my church and in my heart (being a vet myself) I honor those who serve to protect and defend America.

            #2. I watched the movie by Dinesh D’Souza on Veteran’s Day, “America: What would the World be like Without Her.” Great, great movie.

            #3. Watched the baseball playoffs and my SF Giants win the World Series. 7th inning stretch we all sing “God Bless America.”

            Yet I cannot deny that the cancer of Obola Liberalism has hallowed out this country’s honor and integrity. The liberal leaders of this government, aided and abetted by the liberal media, the liberal universities, the liberal school administrators and liberal teachers of our children, the liberal unions, and the liberal propaganda by Hollyweird has liberalized, feminized, and homosexualized a large segment of our citizens, perhaps a majority of them.

            I honestly would not recommend a young man to enter the homosexualized, PC military. When I grew up it was “God, country, family, and somewhere down the list, it was ‘me.'” Now it’s all about “Me.”

            Even worse, I think this broad societal path is irreversible. There will be Salt-and-Light remnants which the government will attempt to squelch, but the trajectory is clearly downward, like right off a cliff.

            I’m saddened. So many decent folks died to preserve our freedoms, and then I have to read an article that our government is being weaponized against free or unregulated speech. DEMn it!

            • Amend to you FreeSlave
              I was the club and asked another member to call my cell, so that we could listen to it ring. The ringing sound is Kate Smith singing God Bless America! It is so sweet to hear…..

              • Thanks Mr. Fields. My kids and I enjoy singing “God Bless America.”

                It saddens me that Satanic Obola Liberalism has infected America so thoroughly. If God has withdrawn His blessing and protection from America because of this toxic Liberalism, then it’s quite understandable.

                • I wont say God bless America anymore. I think at this point He probably finds it offensive and doesn’t want to hear the command God bless america anymore. It almost sounds like a mocking type of thing anymore

              • Kate Smith was one of the BEST!


            • It was great that the narrator of this video, Bill Whittle, explicitly pointed out that this weaponizing of the government is being done by Liberals, by Democrats. He gave pictures and he named the names of Ann Ravel, Lois Lerner, and Barack Obama.

              Bill Whittle did *not* say anything about Bankers, about an “NWO Elite”, about the Jews, or anything like that. He explicitly pointed out Liberal Fascism.

              And that is where the problem is. Most excellent diagnosis. Thank you, Mac.

              • That is exactly why I don’t like this guy….he is stuck in the evil right left matrix….one that Satan is definitely the orchestrator of.

                • Incorrect. Many of the conservatives on the Right Side of the Political and Theological Spectrums love God and His Word and His Church.

                  • you suffer a fools lack of discernment, and I say that not in a mean way, but a firm way.

                    Yeah George bush was saved and a godly man who really wanted to do the right thing and help the world and protect americans. Tongue firmly planted in cheek.

                    A lot of fools who walk into a building every sunday and call it the church think they love God and His word…..and oh what a surprise they have coming one day.

                    There is not one righteous politician today….NOT ONE!

                    On judgement day, “God but I thought…………..” will not be accepted as an excuse to get them through.

                    • BJ, you made some valid points about today’s church and politicians. I left “organized religion” back in the 70s for my own reasons, but that’s another story for another time. I’ve literally thrown up more than a few times over what the church has turned into. I’ve also never seen one politician from anyone’s party worth having. I’ve never been a registered voter. There’s no one out there worth casting a ballot for. They system is so vile, corrupt, rotten, and broken beyond repair. It will all collapse someday. You made a good post that time. I wish I could give you a green thumb.

            • Very good post freeslave.

          • And like the Neo-Nazi scum who post here that further discredits this site.

            • as opposed to the mindset that backed American thinking that went after the Nazis and yet left the russians alone who killed many more innocent whites than then the Nazis killed jews….that one is much better huh

              • Remember the Bolsheviks?…the Russians are not communists. There were the Nazis and the German people…they weren’t all Nazis either.

                It’s like the difference between the Liberals and the average working American…two different animals, occupying the same continent.

            • Walt K…first you need to define your perception of Neo Nazi’sm is. Then you need to define who is the scum as you have defined.

              There are what I call them the “Truth Tellers” on this site who simply post very truthful comments. As an example if someone provides documented proof about the CEO of let’s say Goldman Sachs is behind the blood sheds in Ukraine do you perceive such as a Neo Nazi? If the truth tellers provide documented facts about the AIPAC being in charge of the Government in the US, then you call such as Nazi’s? If a truth teller provides facts that a Muslim prince from Saudi is a biggest share holder of Citi Group working hand in hand withe Jewish members of the Citi Group to arm the ISIS to kill innocents all over then you call such a Neo Nazi?

              However regardless of your answer since I don’t give a rat ass about it I must say go and F%^%$ yourself along with your blood sucking criminal tribe.

              • If we needed a definition of neo-Nazi, this post itself does very nicely.

                • The old clueless coach -1

                  • Yup, talk about being backwards.

          • I, for one, am happy you did not make this **CHANGE** before now…

            So as to expose this naked aggression… major kudo’s!!

            Now what are they going to do!!!! Hahahahaha ….

          • Have enjoyed this site for months now, but at what point do we stop bitching and actually take relevant action. Everyone is pissed, we prep, stack and arm, but the go back to our cozy lives. Seems to me that what is lacking is a true leader on a National scale, we are not organized.
            Mad as hell and don’t want to take it anymore.

            • To make matters worse for me, the owner of the place I live just passed away. I’ve thought about it, and if I have to move from here, I’m not going to Portland (aka liberalville). I’m going to relocate out of this leftist area, maybe even out of this state entirely.

              It will suck, but I think it’s time to find somewhere I can finally fit in…I don’t fit in here, and never really have. People around here piss their pants when they saw my crossbow, because it looks too much like a rifle for their taste.

              …I really hate scaredy cats.

              • It’s funny you mention portland. It was on my list of potential places to move. Not so much for prepping but for a change of scenery.

                Basically it comes down to Athens Georgia or Portland.

                • Portland Oregon is about as far left as one can get, without actually falling off the cliff. The Portland police are infamous for being thugs, as are our local FBI. Our criminal populace is something to be reckoned with.

                  If you choose to come this way, I recommend you stay out of the Portland Metro area. Choose an outlier like Sandy, or northeastern Oregon. Stay along the southwestern I-5 corridor, but skip Medford-Eugene, they’re leftists down there too.

                  Oregon CAN BE good, just not in Portland or Multnomah County. Good luck.

          • The red thumbs were used to remove the green thumb system.
            Studies have shown that numeric feedback universally increases participation, even negative.

            How easy it is. It took all of what, five people probably, in some fusion center or other, to turn a weapon of participation into a weapon for suppressing people.

            Well played TBTB
            ..well played.

            • According to Iopenedyoureyes, that poster did it and did it alone. I am guessing from that posters post, it wasnt for the reason your thinking.

          • Relax Mac: Think of it like a moving belt. The gov keeps shoveling problems back up the belt rather than doing anything about them, so the pile keeps getting bigger and bigger. Yes disinformation can delay, but in the end they are only making things worse. When the day comes that they can no longer stop it, they will be overwhelmed. Gives us a little more time to get ready.

            • I for one liked the “Thumbs” not sure why anyone didn’t, Always interested in people who read it. Don’t really mind red thumbs, If you cannot stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. Only problem I ever had is reducing when you got 10 behind. Big difference between 0-, -10 and 100, -110. 100 -110 should never have been reduced. That’s a good discussion

          • Mac

            Hope you have been great. Have you read my story yet? I can get my secretary to proof read it if you like.

        • This AK I’m sitting here cleaning means I can say whatever I dam n well please. It’s my liberty’s teeth.

          • Now theres an idea,
            Think ill go clean some er toys
            Then go back to gardening,,,,

          • God bless you fucking pissed. My M4 is all good in the hood, standing fast as hell! Just because you’re homeless doesn’t mean the criminals and bad servants have you outgunned.

            PS: Carbines are dirty little bastards, Bad Ass Bastards!

            • I pray you find your way out of those problems, brother. We’ll get our chance to bury our oppressors soon enough.

          • Why AK, use HK is better engineered.

            • Price. If I could afford HK’s instead of AK’s I would’ve put up more fencing, built a greenhouse, bought a hand pump for the well, and then bought the AK’s anyway.

              Though my M1A is pretty sweet . . .

            • AK is proven in countless warfare episodes everywhere. HK is not. I have other weapons that cost more, but it’s the one I’ll pick up when my life is on the line.

          • The problem comes when 10-20 armed government agents kick in your doors and windows while you are sleeping. If they know you are armed, they will have numerical advantage to confront you. The only was a gun does any good is if you are in a similarly large group that diminishes their advantage.

            • Man traps Mr. Smith. Trick is not to let them get near your doors.

        • I doubt very much that the red thumb thing was an attack per se, especially not a consorted planned one from any type of agency.

      2. Hmmm…maybe why we can’t get a thread going without 57 red-thumbs on every post?

        • Yes, hopefully! We disabled the thumbing system because it was compromised by spam injection attacks.

          Working on a new solution, but it may be a while before the up/down ratings return.

          Thank you to all of you who provided feedback and apologies for the inconvenience caused.



          • Mac, No worry Trolls eventually move on when they can no longer have their fun. We are patient.

            • Mac, if you want to make anything up to me, then figure out how to inconvenience the red thumb trolls more than us…I’ll call it even, K?

              • I think it is awesome to have the stupid thumb thing and hidden comments gone

          • No worries Mac,
            Most of us get it,
            Thank you for facilitating this site and forum,
            Free speech at its finest

            • Mac, same here from braveheart. It’s actually really nice to come on here and not see trolls here.

              • Cuz, Who you callin trolls.

          • Mac, thanks for splaining this. My wife told me when I was bitching how this cite had changed for the worst that it was happening all over the internet. She said apparently the radicles are extremely upset with the elections and causing havoc. This explains the sudden and disturbing trends at SHTFplan I noticed. The bad news now is that it confirms my fears of a civil war between collectivist vs. individuals if the radicals decide their agenda has been exposed. Sure hope I’m wrong and thanks again for fighting the good fight.

            • LMAO….so the up tick in red thumbs at ALL posts across the board had something to do with the fraudulent waste of time ballot booth madness?

              Come one!

              • This is the problem, lack of critical thinking. I know for a fact that the communist red diaper doper babies are extremely paranoid that the ignorant sheeple are waking up to the agenda. If one pays attention it can be seen with the so called newly empowered rupubicans also. The commies in this country will not sit back and allow a reversal or even a slight slowing of their “hope and CHANGE” to reach their perceived utopia.

                • While I agree with you, I am not worried about that happening in a big consorted effort kind of way or an attack on this site. There is no large enough threat here. And a majority if posts for some time now have just been arguing and people opinions. Now how does that look to outsiders or to agencies that would want too hurt a group or site??

                  • BJ, it would look like they have room to drive a wedge in here somewhere. We’ve all got to admit, we haven’t been acting very solid and united as a group, for a while.

                    It’s harder to get between two people who are standing strong together, than it is two arguing, hurtful people slinging shit at each other, isn’t it?

                    • You see a strong unified group here???

                    • I see WHAT COULD BE a strong, unified group of intelligent people here. Once we all figure out that differences of opinion do not equate with differences of goal.

          • Mac…why not have just a “like” like Facebook? No option for the red thumbs…they don’t like a comment…tuff!

            • SHTFPLAN Website was Hijacked by Democrat Precinct’s Diebold Voting Machines. Damn robots.

          • Mac,

            Not sure the “rating system” is the way to go. Check out other forum sites and see what they have.

            Check out motorsports mayhem at

            ht tp://

            They have a “like” system and it just shows who liked a comment and that is it. They also have a quote system to use when replying directly to another poster. It is worth a look.

            • Thanks BJ – will do!

              • 🙂

              • Please , no Disgus like infowars went to .

                • Oh, please! No “Disgust!”

                  It used to work pretty well but no most sites that implement it, well, lets just say I have nightmares of that little spinny thing way too often!

                • Agreed – when I set my firewalls (including Ghostery and Privacy Badger) up as high as I like them, Disqus automatically gets blocked. I assume because Disqus is trying to plant a bug, to monitor my activity. Like Google.

                  BTW ya wanna see a site that floods the zone with trackers? Watch Ghostery go wild when you log onto Beck. He’s as bad or worse than every lefty MSM site I’ve ever seen. I never bother with any link to The Blaze anymore.

                • Right. Discus wants to access to too much personal and friend information. I won’t use it.

          • Mac; Just a suggestion. I don’t know if you can keep track or do; but if you do, why not simply look at number of thumbs a source gives and just cut them off at a large but reasonable number or ratio

            • Great idea. I’m not a computer programer but couldn’t anyone over say 90% red thumb just not have red voting thumbs until at least 10% green?

              Wouldn’t that be funny? A virus/safeguard that only lets spammers up vote until 10-90 was reversed to 90-10.

              • Why even bother with that much trouble?

                Are the thumb facebook likies that damn important to some?


                What does this say about us? That we are no less narcissistic or unhealthy sheeple than the facebook crowd?

                To me it screams of narcissism and insecure people seeking validation from strangers on the internet…….pretty unhealthy when you think about it.

                • Thumb up = Hand boner!!!

      3. To all the posters here, since we just had Veterans Day, and have been swamped with Red Thumbers, there are still some things in life we can appreciate and be thankful for. I only post this for the posters here who CARE about this country, HATE our government, and wish we could get rid of TPTB who are running ALL of us into the ground. Whether or not our government is behind all this or not, it does make one think about it. I apologize for the length. And this is a perfect example of free speech that will be eliminated one day…
        Subject: British housewife letter to the editor of a British national newspaper.
        “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” – Edmund Burke
        Thought you might like to read this letter to the editor of a British national newspaper.
        Ever notice how some people just seem to know how to write a letter?
        Written by a British housewife to her daily newspaper:
        Are we fighting a war on terror or aren’t we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?

        Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day in Washington and in downtown Manhattan, and in a field in Pennsylvania?

        Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning
        or crushing death that day, or didn’t they?
        And I’m supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a
        justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal
        I’ll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring
        about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan.
        I’ll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick
        Berg’s head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.
        I’ll care when the cowardly so-called ‘insurgents’ in Afghanistan come out
        and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.
        I’ll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of
        Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.
        I’ll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.
        In the meantime, when I hear a story about a British soldier roughing up an
        Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:
        I don’t care.
        When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move
        because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank:
        I don’t care.
        When I hear that a prisoner – who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and
        fed special food that is paid for by my taxes – is complaining that his holy book is being ‘mishandled,’ you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:
        I don’t care.
        And oh, by the way, I’ve noticed that sometimes it’s spelled ‘Koran’ and other
        times ‘Quran..’ Well, believe me!! You guessed it
        I don’t care!!

        If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends.
        Sooner or later, it’ll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!
        Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in
        the world. Our soldiers don’t have that problem.
        I have another quote that I would like to add, AND……… I hope you forward
        all this.
        Only six defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
        1. Jesus Christ
        2. The British Soldier.
        3. The Canadian Soldier.
        4. The US Soldier
        5. The New Zealand Soldier, and
        6. The Australian Soldier
        One died for your soul, the other 5 for your freedom.

        Isn’t it interesting that so many people in the Western World feel this way, but not one of our politicians, who are supposed to represent us, ever have the guts to state the situation like it is?

        • Amen!

          • Amen and Amen again, to this letter/comment posted by eppe.

            Since the subject of it is Islam and religion, I am posting a link to an event that should open the eyes of everyone, including the liberals, that don’t believe there is a One World Religion coming.

            It is in the works and being led by the Vatican/Catholic Church. i have been saying this for years, and with a lot of disagreement. The naysayers, say it, the NWO religion, will be Islam or the evil Judaism, or won’t exist.
            It will be initiated by the Pope and will be all inclusive. No matter what your following is, the Roman Catholic style of Christianity is a farce and fraud. No flesh man can forgive sins or be a go-between for God, in that department.

            When Christ gave all and rose from the grave, the veil/covering between God and man was rent/torn away so anyone could go “directly” to God in prayer, via the Saviour.
            God says to never call a man Father, for “He” is the only true Father; and, i might add, Mother Mary was never meant to precede Christ as Holiest.

            When one false style of religion welcomes another style, and calls it Chrislam, we know the end of this age is within sight.

            Read it for yourselves…


            The elimination of thumbs up/down is a move in the right direction. If someone wholeheartedly agrees or disagrees, they should take the time to comment about it and let the regulars decide who’s comments suck, by their own comments.

            wwti will go beserk over this post. He hates it when truth comes forth and his atheistic banter is called out.
            Hope he has a change of heart before it is too late.


        • Eppe, great, great letter! Thanks for posting!!

          “Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?”

          Answer: Yes. Yes. Period. Started. By. Islamic. People.

        • Ahhh, that Gentleman’s letter is just the outlining the micro symptom of the disease. Like a head ache is to a Stroke. I think most of these attacks on our land and people are blow back from the US and allied occupation, corruption in oil and petrodollar manipulation, creating puppet dictators and phony governments, and propping them up with grants and loans from the US and Central Banks TPTB that include weapons that oppress those countries people and their home land, as the invaders come in, rape and pillage their natural resources, destroy their culture, create million of homeless refugees as our country calls them terrorists if they retaliate just defending their homeland. If that happened in our country we would be calling ourselves patriots defending the motherland. I get really sick and tired of this phony propaganda patriotism covering up and masking the Fraud and deceit, as out Military invades other 3rd world countries for the profits of Wallstreet and the 1%. Connect the dots to see the big Macro picture.

          Enough of this Phony Patriotic Crap about 9-11, as these people no matter if it, were a false flag or blow back retaliation for a reason. Americans need to get their head out of the sand, and start researching facts and demand our government and Media stop lying to us, and demand we stop invading other countries and stay out of their business. Imperialism will always get taken down and you can sure bet the people that suffer will be us, the populace. It is our responsibility to replace our corrupt Government. So lets get at it people and stop the phony BS.

          • Here did you know this Fact: Just months before 9-11 the Bush Admin gave the Taliban Terrorists in Afghanistan $43 Million dollars. So who funded 9-11? Duh!!

            A lot of these articles about this got taken down, cause they don’t want the American people to know the Bush Admin was funding the same people who attacked us. Well here you go.

            The White House Give the Taliban $43 Million?

            The truth is contained in the transcript of a briefing given by Secretary of State Colin Powell, who on May 17 announced the $43 million grant; it was aimed at alleviating a famine that threatened the lives of four million Afghans. Far from handing the money over to the Taliban, Powell went out of his way to criticize them, and to explain the steps the United States was taking to keep the money out of their hands.

            “We distribute our assistance in Afghanistan through international agencies of the United Nations and non-governmental organizations,” Powell said. “We provide our relief to the people of Afghanistan, not to Afghanistan’s ruling factions. Our aid bypasses the Taliban, who have done little to alleviate the suffering of the Afghan people, and indeed have done much to exacerbate it.

            Most media reports of Powell’s announcement got it right. Within days, though, the commentators began making hash of it. Among the first was Los Angeles Times columnist Robert Scheer, who on May 22 criticized the Bush administration for its “recent gift of $43 million to the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan, the most virulent anti-American violators of human rights in the world today.” Scheer did not respond to my requests for comment, so I can’t be sure where he got his information. But his Web site credits a New York Times article of May 18 that, though accurate, glosses over the matter of who precisely would receive the $43 million. Scheer apparently drew the wrong conclusion.

            A computer search for “Taliban” and “$43 million” since September 11 shows that Scheer’s error has become accepted wisdom. News organizations from Salon to the Denver Post have all repeated it as proof that the US has been coddling terrorists. Jay Severin, a talk-show host on WTKK Radio in Boston, has been eviscerating the Bush White House. Asked where he got his information, Severin cited a column by the New York Post’s Michelle Malkin.

            9-11 was a set up inside Job. So enough of this Phony BS about 9-11 how they (US) attacked (US).

            • As a well trained scientist, though currently working in the health care field, I can vouch that the official story for 911 just simply isn’t possible. While I won’t offer any theories as to who did it, I will point out that:

              1) Jet fuel doesn’t get hot enough to melt the infrastructure of the WTC. It wouldn’t begin to melt it for several thousand more degrees (just see the pics of the empire state building when a B-29 hit it in the fog, or any other skyscraper that caught on fire and burned for hours).

              2) None of the other buildings that burned collapsed. None. Most importantly, none fell at free fall speed. Anyone who has ever seen the video of the twin towers falling can simply time it and see that they fell at free-fall speed. Just impossible if all that happened was 2 planes hitting them.

              3) If a plane hit the pentagon, as they claim, it just couldn’t look like the actual pictures. The pictures that are readily available from reporters at the scene show that the damage is completely inconsistent with a plane crash. And where did the engines and black box go? You can’t possibly believe that this was the only crash in all of history where they vaporized? Simply look at the periodic table of elements, compare temp ranges, and you will see that the government’s story is obviously a lie.

              We’ve been lied to about what happened. Do you think anything stemming from the lie can be good?

          • RE: American Intervention. Just reported on CBS Evening news. 3 American Sailors dressed in street clothes, and on a short shore leave in the Country of Turkey, were pelted with rocks, white hoods thrown over their heads and the angry crowd chanted “Go Home Yankee.” The 3 sailors managed to run back to their ship for safety, and shore leave was canceled, and the ship will take off as soon as possible.

            Just like I said above, the World ain’t taking this US occupation Shit anymore. And Turkey is suppose to be an friendly ally of the US in the fight for ISIS.

            The world population is wide awake now, and I just can’t see this US Imperialism going on much longer.

            • Great post WWTI. I agree with all of it. I believe that if We, The People can’t stop our usurped govt from it’s continuing assault on the world, THE REST OF THE WORLD EVENTUALLY WILL…

              …and it won’t be pleasant for us.

            • Turkey is going to leave NATO, ally with Russia and aims to revive the caliphate and the Ottoman Empire.

          • You obviously are not familiar with the Barbary Pirates.

            I won’t waste my time trying to educate you beyond making the point of asking you what exactly it was that WE did that gave those particular Muslims the moral authority to engage in their evil back then?

            You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the mindset and nature of radical Islam (the ideals of which MOST of the Muslim world supports, even if it doesn’t participate directly)

            • Nonsense. Please name one single instance EVER of the barbary pirates crossing the atlantic and attacking anyone in U.S. waters.

              We don’t own the world and shouldn’t try to police it. Visit the rest of it at your discretion.

              • I did read of a few instances where Barbary pirates landed in Iceland and took more than 400 slaves. The pirates were referred to as Turks, but were from Algiers.

        • Same old, can’t think beyond the end of your little tallywacker, BS. What did the 1st great orator of the new millennium say,”They hate us for our freedom”,or was it “Mission accomplished”. I can’t think of one soldier who EVER fought for my freedom. Why do I say that?? I don’t live in Vietnam, nor Iraq,nor Afghanistan, nor Grenada, nor Lebanon, nor Cambodia,nor Laos, nor Columbia,nor El Salvador, nor the Balkans,nor any other foreign country. I live in America and I have seen freedom evaporate quicker “than a cat can lick it’s a$$” and not one soldier has ever done a DAMN thing about it!! So please, spare me the bullsh!t you have been programmed with by the Main Stream Media about America’s boogeyman. The issue lies within America not outside of America!!

          • Bravo SDMule!! Thanks for posting the truth!! 1000 Thumbs up.

            • I agree with sdmule and wwti. My freedoms aren’t in jeopardy from anyone outside this country and haven’t been since, arguably, 1860. The dream of Southern independence notwithstanding, my freedoms, or those of my ancestors, haven’t been in jeopardy from an outside threat since 1814.

              It’s wrong that we have our army in over 100 countries and nothing good will come of it.

          • You learned ALL your history from Howard Zinn, eh?

            You need to broaden your horizons a little bit.

            No, you need to broaden your horizons A LOT.

          • sdmule, perfect post! 🙂

        • Green Thumbs X1000 for all the posters here, good and bad. I love you all and look forward to your great info/dumbass shit equally. At least we are all real and not shills.
          C Waite, riding the Open Range of the Everglades

      4. And yet with this development people still red thumb me for saying that we are in the midst of the collapse. It is not a time of waiting for it, it is here. In your face everyday. The government is not wasting any time in regulating your everyday life all in the name of control and conformity.

        Please recognize that you must take action now to protect you and your loved ones. If you wait it will be to late. That is what “they” are counting on.


        • I agree BigB , we have been in collapse for some time and the continued crackdown on freedoms proves that those in power are afraid .
          Obama tryin to pass “net neutrality ” off as something the government needs to get involved in is another indicator.
          The net aint broken and the government damn well dont need to try to fix it.

          • You and I get that it isnt broken,
            But when you get on a forum with a ton of progressives all they want to do is squelch you,
            I cant wait for it all to just go dead,
            Then at least i know things have gone real bad somewhere,
            And can take appropriate measures, this pick pick pick crap sucks

            • Thank you Kulafarmer I feel the same way.

              • When you don’t see or hear contact from the “continent”…
                Mainland Europe…
                It’s only hours away from total collapse…

            • Yeah Kula, imagine the Internet going down and we actually start talking with our neighbors again. More than a smile wave and a hi, how are ya?

            • HEY ! Did anyone notice ?
              We lost our right to vote here , and we are all cheering?
              UHHH , Big picture oops ?
              LOL , It really is funny.

              • You still have your right to vote hammerhead, just the cowards have to expose themselves now. You gotta love the openness. All praise to Mac.

              • BTW did you know you don’t have a right to vote in any federal election and never have? It’s not a joke or a trick, you don’t have a right to vote in federal elections.
                I’ve read the constitution many times and it’s just not there. You don’t vote for president anyway, you vote for electors (study the electoral college) who aren’t obligated to vote any way they don’t feel like.
                There are funny little asterisks throughout history of electors going against the majority of those who picked them and voting for whomever they damn well please. The really funny thing is that for those who haven’t studied the merits/demerits of the electoral college is that this is an intentional feature designed by the founding fathers to remove the office of the president one step further from mob rule or democracy.

                • And you think the electoral college isn’t also A MOB? Of course it is, and that mob votes in our leader “for us”.

                  But mother, I’d rather do it myself…

      5. here’s some unregulated speech

        The only difference between a hooker and a democrat is that the hooker will stop screwing you when you run out of money

        • LOL !

        • At least the hooker and maybe the democrat will give me my money’s worth while it lasts. The republican hookers will only go for the missionary position, no oral sex, nothing kinky, I can’t sell tickets to the neighbors for the performance, and I can’t have a smoke afterwards.

          Actually wait, the republicans aren’t even that good. They take my money, spend it on corporate welfare and the military, then use it to go screw my neighbor. The hooker at least never charged me for screwing my neighbor.

          • Um, the last six years of Democrat administration have been a wide-open block party for corporate welfare. Can you say GM/UAW bailout? Solyndra? (And a dozen others) Google? Obamacare payoffs to big insurance? The sweetheart deals to avoid prosecution of dozens of deserving bank execs, (and Jon Corzine)? You are paying for all that.

        • 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

      6. Thank you administrator for disabling the comment hidden for poor rating. It makes the site much easier to read and maybe those junking posts will actually have to engage in real debate now.

        • Thanks for the feedback JRS. It happened very quickly and it took us a little bit to realize it had gotten out of control.

          Again, apologies for those who saw their comments hidden because of the attack.

          No more red thumbs for the time being. We’ve received several suggestions about how to handle this in the future and will start work on a solution in the next week or so.

          Thank you,


          • I know when making comments on sites that use the “Disqus” platform, you can see who upvoted you. However, they ended up disabling the down thumb votes. Perhaps you can create something that lets us all see who up and down votes by hovering over it.

          • Could we get rid of eisen/acid breath…I mean etch? That would make our day!

            • How about adding brahahha and helot to the list.

            • Uhhhh…I meant asshole itch…..there…thats better!

            • As much as I dislike eisen/acid breath. I have to defend his right to post. if you don’t agree refute the post with facts or simply ignore it. however lets not selective censor anyone no matter how revolting and wrong they are.

              • OLD GUY – You are Right. I’ll leave it at that. No more clicky catty beauty contest.

              • Amen One of the faults I have with the dems is that they are only for free speech if its their drivel. True free speech means allowing your adversary to scream his rant from the rooftops same as you.

              • Old Guy, I admit, although somewhat grudgingly, that people like acid, helot, etc. have a right to post here, regardless of how we view their posts. I’m also opposed to censorship. Let’s not take up the Dems’ bad habits. You made some valid points.

              • yeah some of AE’s posts are good and most are at least thought provoking when you have to reply. The profanity could go but I’d rather have profanity than censorship. And maybe that’s AE’s point sometimes?

          • Hat tip , MAC , Thanks.

          • I wonder if just a thumbs up only might be a solution. Eliminates the trolls, and one still gets a sense of to what extent others find the comment useful, with none of the downside of the red thumbs.

            • +1,,Thanks Joeblow, one thing about shtf there is always somebody here that can put words to paper better than myself.

          • Mac, even instead of a thumbs up, maybe just some icon that says
            “I found this post useful.” That way, readers can focus on things that are highly rated. If people don’t like something, or the trolls in mommy’s basement are on the site, the worst they can do is simply nothing. I changed my name in that – and I could well be wrong – but it seemed that they had the screen name flagged right off.

            Just a thought. Keep up the great work

            • I’m thinking instead of seeking ego thumb votes, focus on real content and debate of the subject matter Mac posts. Or any other informative breaking news or useful prepping tips that can actually help people and attract more NewBees, which created more conversations and sharing of ideas.

          • Mac

            Any Idea what part of the world the red thumb attach was coming from ?

            Also couldn’t you block the ISP’s causing the problem?

            • Mac and an army of administrators would be forever blocking IPs, because they can always get a new one…and there are billions of IPs on the internet at any given second. They just can’t stop enough of them to make it worth the effort.

        • You can all calm down and put away your paranoid conspiracy theories. Some theories are real and some are not, learn wisdom to know the differencce.

          I and I alone red thumbed all posts with no respect to any poster or idealogue. I am not even tech savvy and was able to teach you all that you are over paranid by using a cell phone to be able to repeatedly red thumb posts. Seems some like the thumb thing gone anyway.

          Problem is now solved, thank you, carry on.

          • IOUI’S Were moving your preps out of the henhouse into the outhouse, and making more room for Cus to bring up more of his preps.

          • Iopenedyoureyes, So you think it was up to YOU to teach us all a lesson? Fuck you, you arrogant ass. That’s all you’ve shown…that you are an arrogant ass.

      7. Doesn’t matter which Agency it is,they are out to cut off your speech and thought. even though the Repubs smashed the Dems at the polls, the dismantling of our country continues. January cannot get here fast enough.

      8. That’s the way it outta be. Lies should be illegal. Someone has to be in charge or it’s just chaos.
        You gotta give a little to get a little.

        Bottoms up, buttercups

        • Furthermore, if you are being a racist and exercising your ‘right’ to free speech, it’s not the end of the world. Just register as a racist, pay the fine and the yearly surcharge, and try not to break any more laws. This isn’t rocket science, it’s just good honest decency.

          • PGT, if you’re just being sarcastic, OK. If not, then go f#$% yourself.

          • @Pd Govnt troll. People have every right if they want to be a racist, sexist and biased person if they choose. They may have good reason. I see that as freedom of speech. Now if they provide a service to many of these same opponents they should follow the PC rules of respect. Nobody can control your mind or thought process. I have many views and change my mind depending on the circumstance. Every situation is different. But we should support free thinking and speech, no matter what it is, as long as you are not harming anybody physically or threats of harm.

            I say keep an eye on Ferguson, ad this is a test tube of what is to come nationwide. Tolerance vs. Freedoms. Let keep an eye on where the line is drawn.

          • PGT I’m all for that, next election I’m going to register as a Racist. As a third party they will probably get more votes than the Libertian or Constitution Party. Funny how everybody always complains about how the Dems. and Republicans are just a like but on election day those third party votes hardly even make blip on the screen. I nominate my “Cuz” for Prez on the Racist Party Ticket.

        • In contrast to your control concern:

          There are two major traditions in Western political thought. The first is Aristotelian, logical, rational, centrist, mechanistic. You concentrate power and truth in the centre and apply it outward, shaping the world according to plan.
          This was the guiding principle of the Roman Empire. It evolved into the Holy Roman Empire and the Church of Rome. Except for Switzerland, it has dominated politics on the continent ever since. Most recently, it has morphed into the European Union.
          The principle is simple – smart people can figure out how to run things, and should be allowed to do so. This was the idea behind Hillary Clinton’s health care task force (and now ObamaCare), as well as Japan, Inc. and even Adolph Hitler’s National Socialist Germany. It has animated nearly every politician (each one of whom, as Garrison Keilor notes about Lake Woebegone children, are above average) in this century.

          But there is another tradition that is much less well understood. It is the tradition of the Roman Republic… of English common law… of Adam Smith and Emmanuel Kant… of Austrian School economists such as Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek and of pre-Rooseveltian American. It is organic, rather than mechanistic – the tradition of tradition, based on the recognition that people, no matter how smart, cannot replace thousands of years of accumulated experience (remember the “best and the brightest” who led the Vietnam war? Or, wonder where the radical homosexual power move is going to end?)

          Experience is embodied in the evolved systems of values, customs, rules and traditions that people use to order and give meaning to their lives. A free market and a free society allow people to express these preferences, as well as allowing the process of social and civil evolution to continue. This tradition, in other words, is neither liberal nor conservative in the modern sense, but anti-political. Indeed, it is often seen as “anti-intellectual” because it denies the authority of intellectuals to tell the rest of us what to do (through the political process).

          Fleet Street Letter

        • Someone is in charge of the lies. Stealing and murder too!!!

          Which leads me to remind all of the only three functions of government. In order of most to least use, depending of the circumstances. These three functions are the ONLY FUNCTIONS a government has. Everything a government accomplishes is through these three functions.

          1. Lie
          2. Steal
          3. Murder

          If you come accross something that does not require government to do one of these three things as a key element, please let me know. Thanks.

          (And, I think that a crack Systems Programmer could probably fix the red thumb problem. But, no thumbs is not a bad idea either.)


          • All legitimate government functions derive their power from force. The court system, national defense, and the few legitimate Federal functions all stem from the threat of force on behalf and with the consent of the governed.

            Anything that is not best suited to be accomplished by force (healthcare, education, and so on) isn’t an appropriate task for the government and is best left to individuals.

            Anytime government attempts to do anything that isn’t best solved by force you will find they must:
            1) Lie
            2) Steal
            3) Murder

            As they say, it’s not a flaw but a feature really.

      9. +100 for everyone

      10. Just took a beautiful flight from the Atchafalaya swamplands to the Liberty Bell. I flew over a lot of freshly harvested farmland, forestland, rivers, and mountains. We live in one of the greatest countries in the world. Let’s love it, cherish it, and protect it folks. Don’t let them enslave us, ever. Our Constitution is our protection. The democrats and the MSM must be exposed for who they are. Keep lighting candles folks. One of the greatest candles lit in the history of mankind was the Constitution of the United States of America and all of us are its guardians.


        Louisiana Eagle scoping out the birth place of our nation and our Constitution.

        • Great post. There are alot more guardians of the Constitution than people realize and this attempt at applying communism to our country is going to fail. Only the weak minded and loser mentality fall for that bullshit. I walk out of my home every morning of my life with my head held high with pride that I am a contributor to society, not a drain and most people I meet hate the direction the ASSHOLES in charge are trying to take us. My take on it all is, if the guv could put the screws to us they would, why they don’t is because they fear the 100s of millions of guns in this country. The guv couldn’t take on a bunch of goat herders with the best technology on Earth. How can they take on millions of determined Patriots? Every time I see Obamas picture, I feel like I need a shower he disgusts me so bad.

          • Exactly Warface.
            It took 6 weeks to catch a police shooter hiding in the woods.
            How many LEOs?? Where are the NSA, sniffer dogs, drones??
            Oh, and does this mean those $300,000 MRAP tanks are only good on asphalt??

            Heads up, Islam, ISIS, Taliban, Al Queda? Come on over–the gun owners here will save our country; it sure as hell won’t be the govt. if that display is indicative of our might!!!

          • WARFACE,

            The time may come when we will need to put the war-paint back on our faces again. I am hoping that some level headed and visionary leaders will arise that will start taking back the country from the corrupt grasp of the current PTHB. How America let someone so inexperienced and disgusting into “The People’s House’ is just past amazing! I was astounded to learn how 90% of the casualties (20,000+ soldiers)in Afghanistan occurred on the watch of the current occupant of the White House. Our soldiers were fighting with their hands tied behind their back with dangerous ‘rules of engagement’ as Obama put them in harm’s way. He has placed some real ‘sh..heads’ in positions of power to carry out his inept and downright dangerous policies.

            Mac, Keep lighting candles Mac! Keep ’em coming! I am glad you got rid of the red thumbers! What a relief!

            From high atop an aerie overlooking the amazing ‘Liberty Bell’, Louisiana Eagle

            • Black walnut hulls work excellent for painting your face, neck arms and hands. Soak them in water or just put in a sealed container in a humid warm spot and let them sit for a while, then peel hulls off… can squeeze the black dye juice out of them at that point. Also works well on work shoes and boots that are the correct color.

              • They stain everything, even through rubber gloves. That’s what makes it such a nasty job removing the hulls. Then you have to use a hammer on a concrete block to bust the nuts open.

                We have three trees, but didn’t get nearly as many nuts as last year. Either the yield is way down or the squirrels are really preparing for a hard winter. I did find a small stash hidden in my greenhouse, so I found the squirrel’s secret entrance and blocked it.

                • Yes, the stain can be very useful for the right applications. The work of cracking the shell and separating them from the nut is indeed busy work, but not a bad thing for the family when you’re stuck inside. You can freeze the nuts and use freezer bags….they will last for up to two years. Walnuts are extremely healthy and considered brain food.

                  • We don’t like black walnuts, so my wife shells them and sells them by the cupful in baggies. I want to get rid of them to make room for more garden space and fruit trees, but my wife won’t let me because her sister likes them.

                    • They are really tasty when glazed…..yumm

                    • Archivist, Consider that nuts have more calories and proteins than vegetables and fruits. Good survival food. Grow tomatoes for vitamin C and carrots for Vitamin A.

              • BJ what I love about using black walnut husk for camo, is how easy it is to remove, after me and Cuz goes on one of our guerilla raids, and we don’t want anyone to know it was us.

                • Hope that was Sarc, only thing I know that remove Black walnut stain s Dynamite

        • laeagle- its time to call the current democrat party and MSM what it really is and thats the socialist party .
          No more minceing words.

          • BJ, Thanks for that information. I do like charred cork as well (preferably after consuming the contents, the older vintages are said to be particularly effective, and the French corks don’t work any better than our own from the good old USofA.

            HH, I completely agree! They are actually worse than the socialists and the communists, some of whom were driven by idealism and humanism. The intolerant, progressive, liberal folks who call themselves democrats in this country are out to destroy, kill, consume, pillage, and enslave the American people. They would readily turn on each other if it furthered their purpose, look at scared Mary now. They routinely sacrifice their young to their gods. As far as I am concerned they are like those cannibals in the recent episodes of ‘The Walking Dead’.


            Louisiana Eagle
            Dateline:The “Liberty Bell”

      11. I will continue to say whatever I choose on any subject and if someone wants to throw me under a bus over it, well first, they have to get their hands on me, and second, I’m not going to play that game. So my opponent had better think twice before doing anything.

        • That’s what I love about you braveheart…you don’t take s**t from anyone. <<< look at that…i'm not swearing as much and even self censored myself.

          • I asked granny to pray for me and I think the prayer might be kicking in…thanks granny ( if you remembered to pray for me anyway ) :>)

            • She prayed for me about the swearing ( I think ) and look up there ^^^ only 1 swear word and I self censored. :>)

          • BPD, thanks for that. It is refreshing not to see any comments get removed due to a certain number of red thumbs. I’m sure Mac will come up with something better.

            • +1

          • yeah, a real keyboard commando, I’d sure never mess with him 😉

            • BJ, what is your problem today?

              • The same thing it is every day Cuz. He thinks your an Undercover Cop.

            • the red thumbers became red thumbed now glad red thumbers cant red thumb red thumbers. wow . me , im afraid red thumbers that red thumb red thumbers that red thumb green thumbers, jeesh its getting tough round here

      12. Ooh, no more little thumbs, cool. People here are more civil and don’t hurl line after line of hateful insults at people they’ve never met, they tend to comment more on the actual article. One of the best comment sections that I’ve seen on the Internet just got even better.

        • satori…don’t think the link works fyi

            • Satori,

              I’ll be flying this Sunday. Hope my feathered wings don’t get singed!

              Please keep us posted. Without BI and the other experts I am at a loss.

              Louisiana Eagle

              • Yeah! Where is BI, anyways?

            • Wow..thats a rather large sunspot…

        • It’s Bush’s fault

      13. The Economic End Game Explained

        “And while the Titanic sinks, the band plays on, as mainstream pundits and dupes accuse independent analysts of “crying wolf.” The economic endgame is not about collapse alone. Collapse is nothing more than a process that ends abruptly only when public faith is finally lost. The endgame is about acceptance — the acceptance by the masses of a “new normal” in which financial and political terror become the foundation of daily life. The endgame is, first and foremost, about the psyche of mankind and its mutation into something unrecognizable. This kind of pervasive conditioning requires immeasurable fear. Our economic philosophy of sovereign trade and identity cannot be erased without it. The elites have already given us their timeline. The crash of 2008 was only the beginning of the program, and 2014-2015 looks to be the next stage.”

      14. Uber-leftist Herbert Marcuse popularized the “repressive tolerance” theory of modern progressives. Here is his vile quote – typical of the left:

        “Liberating tolerance would mean intolerance against movements from the right and toleration of movements from the left,” Marcuse pontificated. “Certain things cannot be said, certain ideas cannot be expressed, certain policies cannot be proposed.”

        • Herbert Marcuse can go f#$% himself.

        • JB,

          I have seen this phenomenon over and over again and have lost ‘friends’ as a result of their intolerance. I have always been willing to listen to someone else’s views and opinions and feel that I can benefit from their insight or lack thereof. Unfortunately they do not reciprocate in kind, so, you cannot hold a true discussion with them.

          Louisiana Eagle

      15. I find it amazing that people like this author equate Stalin and Hitler, when Stalin was our ally and Hitler was the ONLY one trying to stop Stalin at the time.

        The disconnect within the author’s mind is stifling, but not surprising. He wouldn’t be the first to be brainwashed by the BS.

        • I find it staggering the you exonerate the National SOCIALIST Workers’ Party leader, Hitler, who adopted *explicitly* socialist planks at their very first party convention, Munich, 1920.

          I find it even more staggering that there is absolutely ZERO comprehension that Hitler was not only a mass murderer, but also an ignorance that his war with the vile Stalin was an *internecine* one, similar to late 1960s low level war the USSR had with Red China or China with Vietnam around 1976.

          Here is the quote the neo-Nazis refuse to consider: “There is more that binds us to Boshevism than separates us from it… I have always made allowances for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once.”

          And everyone knew it. G.B. Shaw, who was a Fabian socialist said:

          “Mussolini (the real founder of fascism) practices more positive socialism than many of his adversaries whose names are inscribed in the party role.” Italian fascism was collectivist in nature, and the fascists were “well aware of the fact that Communism springs from the same collectivist stem as their own system.”

          Ludwig von Mises on socialism and Nazis (von Mises fled from the Nazis to Switz in 1934, and then to the US in 1940). and taught as several US universities (and is considered the father of Austrian economics, along with F.A. Hayek:

          “… Mussolini, the outstanding man in Italian socialism, chose at first the orthodox Marxian position. Nobody could surpass Mussolini in Marxian zeal… the programme of the Fascist, as drafted in 1919, was vehemently anticapitalistic… fascism was not… an original product of the Italian mind. It began as a split within the ranks of Marxian socialism.” (p. 525f, The Socialist Revolution).

          “The philosophy of the Nazis, the German National Socialist Labour Party, is the purest and most consistent manifestation of the anticapitalistic and socialist spirit of our age.” Von Mises, p. 528f

          From Richard Vetterli and Willam Fort’s book, The Socialist Revolution:

          “The collectivist systems of Communism and Fascism belong not on the opposite extremes … their characteristics demand that they share a position side by side on the left” and that Nazism and Communism, in their totalitarianism and collectivism, share “close proximity.” (p.2 – 3)

        • Im not sure they are being equated here , only used as examples of leaders who have stifled free speach.
          Right now in the US we are at a level that we saw in the fiftys , McCartyism , when nieghbors were to report any suspected commie activity of their neighbor .
          I was not alive then , but have heard stories that it really was a scary time to speak out against anything.
          And history is repeating with PC speach.

        • You SURE you want to start the Hitler talk again joe blow?

          • Looks to me like he didn’t start it.

            • (back hands old coach in the chops for speaking out of turn)

          • No. I want you to show some intellectual honesty, BPD, and stop your Nazi/National Socialist adulation. And also quit turning this into some Jew-baiting site.

            • Here are the things that IMHO, I cannot deny. I cannot deny that Stalin and Hitler were both evil heads on the same coin, but that we chose to go after the lesser of the two evils and become alliances with the greater of the two evils……and it is still biting us in the ass today.

              I can’t deny the verifiable information that several people, mainly John Q. Public and Pissed Off Granny, have posted on this site in regards to just how many evil people in very high places are the ones that call themselves Jews, but through DNA evidence are not Jews, but Khazars.

              How far to take the second subject I bring up………..I am seeking His guidance on.

              • Well if your seeking His guidance, you better delve into His Word a little more instead of consuming all the BS that JQP and POG put out.

                • -1

            • Jow Blow…Just because I know the truth about the nazi’s doesn’t make me a national socialist ( like I’ve said here many times ) Jow blow..why don’t you turn off the history channel and go to if you have any balls whatsoever. All you post here about nazis are LIES.

      16. Not that Jefferson would put up with this horsemanure:

        “…But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others.”

        –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVII, 1781

      17. Again, for the neo-Nazis, in case they don’t “get it.”

        “There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it… I have always made allowances for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once.” – Adolph Hitler

        Anyone who takes even a one minute glance at the National SOCIALIST (Nazi) planks, adopted Feb., 1920 in Munich, will have a clue. That is, unless you are one of the rabid anti-Semites on this site (and not wholly wrong – just mistaking th part for the whole; just like saying ‘all blacks/orientals/whites, etc are bad, when in fact it is a ***subset*** – not all blacks are mindless leftists and not all whites wear pointy hoods. But, I guess reality that is not over simple is difficult for some.

        • JoeBlow, your recent comments are a breath of fresh goodness. Thanks for shining the light on the darkness.

        • I don’t feel like bombarding joe blow with the real facts about Hitler right now ( like i’ve already done on previous threads )…I’ll just let everyone know he only knows the History channel propaganda..obviously. Disreguard anything he says about Hitler because he knows even less than test does( if thats possible )…if you want the truth once agin…

          joe blow..I double dog dare you to go to that site and enlighten yourself. Come on up and take a look at the other side for’ll be glad you did.

          • bpd, have read much on mentioned site and numerous revisionist history books on the subject(s), outstanding that some people(you)study history in a whole connectional aspect. What we have been taught by the tax except foundations is, well, not all history.

            Education is never over brother

            • true brother…getting educated is a lifelong thing…individually if one stops ( or never starts at all ) seeking truth someone WILL step in and give you their version of the truth which most get from the boob tube.

          • I had the intellectual honesty to watch the whole freaking greateststorynevertold video. Would that you would answer just ONE simple question: Why did your hero Hitler say: “There is more that binds us to Boshevism than separates us from it… I have always made allowances for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once.”

            Why did his fellow socialist G.B. Shaw, who was a Fabian socialist say “Mussolini – the founder of fascism that Hitler later followed) practices more positive socialism than many of his adversaries whose names are inscribed in the party role.”

            Italian fascism was collectivist in nature, and the fascists were “well aware of the fact that Communism springs from the same collectivist stem as their own system.”

            Ludwig von Mises on socialism and Nazis (N.B.: von Mises fled from the Nazis to Switz n 1934, and then to the US in 1940). His Ph.D was from U. of Vienna, and he taught as several US universities.

            “… Mussolini, the outstanding man in Italian socialism, chose at first the orthodox Marxian position. Nobody could surpass Mussolini in Marxian zeal… the programme of the Fascist, as drafted in 1919, was vehemently anticapitalistic… fascism was not… an original product of the Italian mind. It began as a split within the ranks of Marxian socialism.” (p. 525f, The Socialist Revolution).

            “The philosophy of the Nazis, the German National Socialist Labour Party, is the purest and most consistent manifestation of the anticapitalistic and socialist spirit of our age.” Von Mises, p. 528f

            From Richard Vetterli and Willam Fort’s book, The Socialist Revolution: “The collectivist systems of Communism and Fascism belong not on the opposite extremes … their characteristics demand that they share a position side by side on the left” and that Nazism and Communism, in their totalitarianism and collectivism, share “close proximity.” (p.2 – 3)

            All you do is provide quotes from Voltaire (irrelevant to the question at hand), Gen. Sherman (same), Napoleon (this supports your position? Some man who killed hundreds of thousands?), quote some documents for which there is ZERO evidence that the mass of Jewry follows (Protocols of Zion, anyone?)

            But you are right. There is zero reason to start the discussion, as you have a monomaniacal commitment to your anti-Semitism, and shown ZERO interest to honestly explore the real issue, which is that of the takeover of the republic, based on the Constitution that does indeed have a disproportion amount of leftist/big govt Jews, but – while a critical player – is more of the occasion, not the cause of the deeper problem. Think of it as your beloved National SOCIALIST Waffen SS. They were very central players, but there was something behind and underneath that. The is represented by non-Jewish players scattered throughout the history of the usurpation of the Constitution, such as the meeting for the first Fed at Jekyll Island, which – in case you are not aware – was not a solely Jewish endeavour. Nor was the horrible Woodrow Wilson, FDR and other destroyers of the American republic Jewish.

            But, as noted, you have show more interest in ad hominem invective than discussion, so you are indeed correct. No discussion is necessary, or even possible.

            • Joe Blow/aka/ “TEST” seems to complain of “jew bashings” then pastes a bunch of mainly MSM/SPLC/ADL/History channel BS and like most who take Mien Kamph quotes as proof, they usually do so OUT of full Context. It kinda sounds like maybe what hitler meant by that “allow FORMER, former is the KEY word there as IN NO LONGER a Kommie Bolshevik, where it says More IN common with Us etc etc…I am guessing here but likly it means the WHITES aka NOT jew bolsheviks of russian nationality who got DUPED by Jewdeo Kommies Into being a Kommie in first place. And that “IF” they finally seen the light and desired a full Return to act like a White and/or white Christian of Former Russia, before jewry used their invention of communisim to Overthrow the russian white christian Based nation….Then hitler was willing to give them a 2nd chance to act Human and White and even christian which IS what a vast majority of russian and german folk were…I am also going to post a second reply next…That contains a few chioce JEWISH/RABBI’s and various other jews Quoted statements so to enlighten Joe Blow about them jews hes sooooo concerned about being exposes as True Kommies…NO….Of course Not all jews=kommies…just a Whole Huge Bunch of jews are is all it is…These quotes should provide a bit of NON-MSM, NON SPLC jew run examples when those daring “FEW” jews actually OUT their Own selves!

              Just remember folks!…Usually,99.999% of the times you actually see or read or hear of such a jewish person doing the Outting of their tribe and fellow traveler kommie jewry etc…Its due to their inbred, trained since Birth Day-1, attitude which Reeks of massive EGO and self-chozeness nonsense that causes such egotistical jews to do the outting or truth telling in the First place.

              IE: They like to Brag of their vast achievments caused by Their orig invention, and then their tribes use of it to create mass havok, chaos, outright genocide of mainly Whites and Christianity aka white christians…And their MOST evil to Date of inventions is and has been…Marxist Communism…Which Joe Blow seems always ready to use to compare hitler or nazis with…Yet at same time wants all of YOU folk to refrain from the mention, as I and other’s do, of noteing the Fact of how close jewry IS related to what jews invented and that worst of evils Is…COMMUNISM.

              And the No.1-Best all time worldwide proof of all time IS the FACT that jews use of their kommie invention has causes the MASS Deaths of more innocents then all/any Other eras of recorded history from garden of eden up to Today 2014…Nobody else BUT jews has caused as much terrible deaths, tortures, lies, scams, and overall Misery for all of the REST of Humannity aka Us non jew Goys as jewry labels gentiles…And jewry is responsible for ALL that just during the 20th century!! If you goyims continue to allow it and keep, keeping PC and keep it a huge Taboo still…Wait to see how worse this 21st century will be!..Likly as Worse as ALL Whites Dead globally!..Exception: will be only Beautifull well endowed white women and teens, kept alive as sex slaves and teen and early edult strong handsome male whiteys kept also alive for Both sex slaves And Workers…For Jewry during their JWO reign of course!

              And its too Bad You cannot simply ASK ANY of the aprox One THIRD of a BILLIOn DEAD souls killed off by and due to that jew invention know of as marxist Communism, for Their honest opinion of, should we All refrain of name the jews who rates it and instead Keep the “J” word the biggest Global TABOO world has ever known…Alas them folks are all dead and cannot speak now…HOWVEVER!

              We who Are yet alive and DO know these facts and Truths are very Likly to Never back down, Never shut up! and never Refrain from outting and nameing jews or jewry when that lable “FITS” and fit it sure does..

              There is more than Much fact and truth in some famous german guys quote of “The Jews Are Our Misfortune”

              TO PROVE That also! I shall post next a actual jew quote that agrees and even includes jewrys OWN travails and says that even some jews are harrmed BY fellow jwerys activities and attitudes and outright, Master Race self chozen attempt to force goys into a JWO ruled By jewry and the world Owned by same…Not only 100% full world control over peon goys mind you…but Also 100% legit total Ownership of entire planet earth and ALL it contains and all that lives upon earth includeing Humans of a non jewish nature, aka goyim “animals” for an sub human animal that God created able to learn languages so to better serve as a slave TO jews is really the Only reason God even bothered to create any of Us “GOYIM” folk…And Created By Him with-OUT a human Soul to boot!

              Straight out of their Talmud books verses as taught in their synagouges etc….So indeed lets do all we goys can to keep their tribal “J” word a forbidden mention, and a huge global Taboo word to assist in the ongoing Hidden Coverups of all and everything done by or in name of international jewry eh…PC at it’s Finest no?

              • Jow Blow is test?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH what a pussy..he had to change his name after the ass beating he took a few threads back…TEST…I already kicked you need to do it again you name changing wimp.

                • your*

        • Mr. JoeBlow, Are you cut and pasting your historical data from some Jewish library in Tel Aviv feeding the tourists with historical lies or you watch too much History Channel being funded by your tribe to produce WW historical BS?

          I don’t expect you to sit down with a German elder since the/she will reject such request but that would be the correct source who lived through it all and witnessed the actual disease that caused the biggest damage to a great culture.

          • +1

          • As a matter of fact, not too long ago I sat with a German solider in a nursing home who was on the Russian front, and froze his feet off, thus saving his life.

            I understand your insults, but unfortunately, all you seem to have in your quiver is more ad hominem invective. The usual recourse of those who can’t make a logical point.

            But further to BPD and his adulation of mass murderer, SOCIALIST Adolf Hitler, a few basic points even a 2 yr old could research… and you and BPD (unless you are one and the same): Here are the some planks of the Nazis, adopted in Munich on February 24, 1920:

            “We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living… We demand profit sharing in big business… the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education. . . We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents. . . . The government must undertake the improvement of public health… permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good”

            Nazi stands for the Nazionale Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei – the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party. Was it just a name, as some say? Then why did the Nazi’s introduce the “Reichsarbeitsdienst” – the National Labour Svc that had public work systems; why the “Kraft durch Freude,” where the STATE even took care of the leisure time of workers?

            No the Nazis did not advocate public ownship of production, only that the govt oversee and run the economy, as they knew that legal ownship wasn’t what counted, but rather CONTROL. So, private citizens could hold title – as long as the state had the unqualified right to use their property. I.e., de facto socialism, the STATE still controls. Or, as Carl Limbacher wrote, “Benito Mussolini’s Fascist economic policy, which he called the “mixed economy,” tried to combine Marxism with capitalism. What resulted was a dictatorship which allowed limited economic freedom to those favored industries willing to operate under government patronage.” The observant among you will note well the phrase “operate under government patronage.”

            This is right out of the Obama/Pelosi socialist playbook., and you can read more about the socialism of the Nazis with any Google search, though exposes a lot about the National Socialist Program which was big on Euthanasia (see Aktion T4 – I’ll be you are REAL proud of that one!) Eugenics and Social Darwinism , which are big hits with leftists today, too.

            As with BPD, I don’t expect any intellectually honest response. But I appreciate the insults. Exactly proves my point

          • Oh yes. I do speak German, as well as Swedish, and have German and Swedish in my family. But no need to sit with any Germans.

            The core issue is that you are a National SOCIALIST Workers’ Party supporter. The exact same socialism that failed in the USSR, Cuba, Detroit and Kalifornia.

            I have repeatedly asked for logical responses, and get none from BPD. And no, I am not Jewish, have never been to the Middle East, and I have a deep problem with the elevation to big government, anti-republic, anti-Constitutions, quasi-socialist group in power, which includes an over-representation of liberal NY Jewish people. But then, I have a problem with ALL people that are against historic western freedoms, the Constitution, etc. etc. In contrast, you and BPD have little knowledge of basic Nazi planks, and support a mass murderer of Jews and Gentiles together, as well as support the utterly disproven economic theory of socialism. And if you think your socialism is so great, I invite you to go take a walk around midnite in downtown Detroit, the first major city to adopt the socialist Model Citis Program.

            • Jow Blow-me (test ) you better go re-read a few threads back son…I gave you every damn fact there is about national socialism…wow..this kid has a short memory…it reminds me of what Hitler said in his book ” my struggle ” about how when a jew loses an argument and then comes back the next day like nothing happened and starts the same silly argument again from the beginning. Then loses the argument again that day to…and why the name change test if you showed us all up a few threads back? Did you see me change my name test? I didn’t need to because I won the argument in a landslide as did a few others who slapped you around.

          • The QUOTES by Jews as promiced!: Please Joe tell us Goys it aint so!…NOTE; WHOM these quotes are attributed TO as haveing said or coinded it in first place.

            “If Gentiles [any non-Jew] refuse to live a life of inferiority, then this signals their rebellion and the unavoidable necessity of Jewish warfare against their very presence.”

            – Cf. Mordechai Nisan, Kivunim (official publication of the World Zionist Organization), August, 1984, pp. 151-156

            “Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap; and we will sit like an effendi [Turkish bossman] and eat.” That is why gentiles were created.”

            Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, spiritual mentor of the religious fundamentalist party, Shas, and a former Chief Rabbi of Israel. Yosef is considered a major religious leader and chief coalition partner in the current Israeli government who enjoys the allegiance of hundreds of thousands of followers. [10/18/10] (RECENT example eh!).

            “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.” ( wow sounds alot like Koran teachings no?)
            – The Talmud: Libbre David 37

            “The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud.”

            — Michael Rodkinson, in preface of Babylonian Talmud, page XI.

            “The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe — whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, or merely spasmodic sentimentalists — we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.”

            — Herman Wouk, “This is My God.” Wouk wrote the book and screenplay “Winds of War,” popular back in the 1970’s.

            “Jewish history has been tragic to the Jews and no less tragic to the neighboring nations who have suffered them. Our major vice of old as of today is parasitism. We are a people of vultures living on the labor and good fortune of the rest of the world.”

            — Samuel Roth, “Jews Must Live,” page 18.

            “There is much in the fact of Bolshevism (Communism) itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism.”

            — The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1919.

            “The Jew is an inborn Communist.”

            — Otto Weininger, Sex and Character, page 311.

            • Here Joe: maybe you never yet saw any such quoted by a jew, reasons described as to WHY did Germans want jews Booted out asap from Their once mainly christian white german folk nation…See a similarity to todays usa perhaps folks?

              “Whilst large sections of the German nation were struggling for the preservation of their race, we Jews filled the streets of Germany with our vociferations. We supplied the press with articles on the subject of its Christmas and Easter and administered to its religious beliefs in the manner we considered suitable. We ridiculed the highest ideals of the German nation and profaned the matters which it holds sacred.”

              – Dr. Manfred Reifer, a well-known leader of the, Jews of Bukovina, wrote in the Jewish magazine Czernowitzer Allegemeine Zeitung (September 1933).

              “In everything, we are destroyers — even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief… We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands.”

              — Maurice Samuel,”You Gentiles”
              pages 152, 155, and 147.

              STOP: Calling folks “Antisemites” since 98+% of Todays worldwide jews are NOT, semitic! IE: They ARE “Khazars” as Recent, less than 2 year old DNA evidence proof I posted prior proves and States that as fact that they are indeed Khazars. Even Shepardic and morano jews are khazar mostly.

              AND HERES the JEWS OWN ALMANAC-PROOF Jews are NOT “hebrew” and are NOT “Israelites” of any Biblical definitions, as Is so Often falsely taught by vast majority of todays Pastors…They also are wrong period.

              Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”

              — 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars)…..Just ONE jewish almanac edition of the many more which agrees with this.

              Joe Blow: Why do you keep calling folks who post stuff and especially facts and truths on jew issues, an antisemite and a jew hater always?…

              That method is whats been constantly used to Silence everybody from ever speaking out or revealing ANY facts on Jews, Jewish issues, or state of Israel issues.

              It is a 100% Alinsky Tactic, whom was also a jewish kommie.

              The absolute Worst of all PC and will really be the worst-bad that we can imagian is for folks to continue aiding in this form of silencing all who say a single word on jews etc…Unless of course it is favorable to jews, or Parrot’s jews most famous issue and biggest money maker bribes of all times…Ie: it is always A-OK to speak or write publically when you Parrot whatever infos jews say about evil nzis, Holyhoax camps, and that famous number now protected by LAW and severe prison Terms to all who disobey or question that number of “SIX-MILLION” WWII dead jews claim…Which Has been proven False more times than can be listed here..NO other issues of past history has such severe LAWS in now at least 56-Nations including Canada to Punish folks who dare even question it…As an example of “Question six million number” it is if a person simply asks a jew in public, like say college speaker jew, “Gee how did You arrive at Exactly Six Million sir? did someone actually Count them all or what”?

              That honest and GOOD type question equals 3 to 15 yrs hard prison time in most of them 56 nations!

              Yet Can anyone Name one OTHER NON jewish related thing you can never question of recorded history or that TOO gets you Jail time and huge Fines $$$…? I Know of NONE other issues folks cannot speak of nor question unless they stick to a tight regulated jewish written SCRIPT of history…But Just for jew issues/history etc especially their HolyHOAX claims Most of which Have now been totally proven Bogus as can be, outright swindle scams.

              HOW: Do Jews Keep getting away with That and many More scams or jews escape true justice so often as its swept under the rug and hidden by fed govnt and every MSM source etc…I will Tell you how!

              It is because to Date we still have and see, a Major Vast huge proportion of citizenery Here, Canada, and Euro nations(by severe laws mainly there) and really by MOST of the POP globally who has Fallen for and Continue to ASSIST international jewry BY, continueing to Shout Out…ANTISEMITE!!!! JEW HATER!!! Most Every time Anybody Dares to speak or write anything Other than, what poor little Victims WWII Jews were and still Are! Oy Vey!

              Everytime any of you copycat Joe Blow and quickly call another an antisemite or jew hater even when NO such hate is displayed, is playing right INTO scaming jews and especially the huge majority of Kommie jewrys efforts to silence everyone in order to keep jew swindles ongoing.

              Its exact same as African Blacks RACE CARD issue!

              Only, the jews antisemite card is Far worse, far More Parroted, and causes far More dammage and future dammages potentials…Like continueing to have less than 2% of usa population 99% control ALL what Matters and ALL You Hold Dear!…IE: Your Future, Your kids future, usa fed and states govnts, ALL of MSM in All aspects of it, and basically fully control everything important from A to Z and Top to Bottom of the Nation and peoples we calls America and American’s…That never will stop nor see a slim chance to, unless More folks, ALL of the folks, start to reject it and refuse to use that silencer vile name call of antisemite or jew hater…

              Speak-write or Post up at a forum: Facts-truths-Jewish spoken Quotes etc etc is NOT hate!…Not Hatred of jews or others…And when NO others Rate such instant unquestioned defense of Their group like jews and blacks recieve always….WHY is That?…Many others also are or were “Victims” right…But only defense always goes to or for #1 Jews & #2 Negroes..

              Most folk finally has woke Up to the blacks race Card scam…Thats great!…Soooooo…How’s about same folk, Most folks, also Fast wake Up to the identical scam jews play with that antisemite Card scam eh…Or do most folks enjoy seeing their nation as it exists today and for some long while now?…PC silence on Black issues has destroyed Every Major and most Mid sized cities Nationwide in All 50 states…Do NOT allow same to occure due to silence on jewish issues, and Fear of jewry if You refuse to Play that antisemite name call Card jews never runs out of like blacks with their race card…

              It is Akin to every deck of cards worldwide with TWO JOKER Cards in the 52 card deck Package…Has been handed over…One JOKER Card went to negroes and other went to…jews….Now Both has Unlimited supply of both Jokers and Loves to Play each card as Often as possible to Keep silencing folks…Especially to silence awake WHITEY Folks eh.

              Neither blacks nor jews can continue to get away with these many destructive swindles and scams and lies and bribes and demands for more Cash for them…Unless a majority assists them two groups as decribed.

              “Just Say NO!” and STOP helping destroy usa and whites.

              Silence NO more! “Never Again”!!

              • If posters go to Jewish Virtual Library (a Jewish site meant to inform anyone who goes about THEIR view of the world, not mine) and look at their articles on religion/their view of Jesus Christ and Christianity/ their article on Noahide Laws, etc. you will begin a journey into what their world views and THEIR religion is all about.

                Then ask yourself after a thorough perusal of that site if it is anything near what you think or are being taught about believing in Judeo-Christianity.

                Also ask yourself when quotes, backed up with links, such as Condor has posted are just “old men whose opinion doesn’t count anymore, or somehow some poster has tried to convince you that some of those “men” or all of them simply did not know what they were saying.

                For an excellent timeline on who really owns the world and all its gold try iamthewitness, Rothschild and his cronies down through a historical timeline until today. That is a history book worth looking at. Also other subjects there will help you remove any rose colored glasses.


                And JoeBlow I am no more a Nazi than you are Tarzans pet chimp. But then?

            • +1

      18. Russell Napier Declares November 16, 2014 – The Day Money Dies

        Australia – “On Sunday in Brisbane the G20 will announce that bank deposits are just part of commercial banks’ capital structure, and also that they are far from the most senior portion of that structure.

        With deposits then subjected to a decline in nominal value following a bank failure, it is self-evident that a bank deposit is no longer money in the way a banknote is.

        If a banknote cannot be subjected to a decline in nominal value, we need to ask whether banknotes can act as a superior store of value than bank deposits?

        If that is the case, will some investors prefer banknotes to bank deposits as a form of savings?

        Such a change in preference is known as a “bank run.”


        • I read that article on zerohedge KY Mom. It definitely illustrates that those in the know are no longer operating under the status quo. The question then becomes, when do the little people like us begin to act in accordance with them?

          • I’ve been sloppy lately. I’ve actually kept over $1000 in the bank for the last several months. Very sloppy. Normally its under $100 that is not spoken for.

            After reading this, I’m taking it out. Don’t know why I ever left it in there.

            A while back it was explained to me that there are three types of people:

            1. Normal People who use the bank, save their money and put it there.

            2. Under Bankers or people who use the bank but they keep and deposit enough to pay their bills and conduct business but their savings are kept in either cash (me) or precious metals (also me). (…and I have a third. I’ll let you guess.)

            3. Non-Bankers are people who refuse to go near a bank to put money in it. If they have direct deposit, they never let it rest, they pull it all out and never let any of it stagnate in a bank.

            How many on here are 1s, 2s or 3s?

            I’m a solid 2.

            How about you?

            • @net ranger- I would definitely say I keep MINIMAL cash in the bank. I do not trust those people as far as I can spit.

              I store cash, PMs, and a third commodity (most likely what you referred to). I just call them my toys.

            • I’m a 2.

            • I’m a 2.

              I only have enough in savings to keep the account open, plus 80 cents in interest I’ve earned over the past many years, and I only keep enough in checking to pay bills. Everything else is spent on “stuff.”

              Green peas were 50 cents a can today. I see they’re dated 2017, so I’m getting more in a day or so. I’m still using corn I bought over a year ago for 25 cents a can.

              I told someone in the grocery store today that buying stuff now and on sale too is better than money in the bank. They agreed and picked up two packages of $3.59 bacon (full 16 oz.). There was also a store coupon for $2 off on two packages. That was just $2.59 per pound.

            • I am a 2.
              Are there any banks such as local banks or credit unions that are better?

        • HAHAHAHA! One commentor on zerohedge says:

          “When do I have to stop using the line, it’s like money in the bank?”

          I say, “You don’t have to. You just have to use it every time you flush the toilet.”

      19. Mac

        Thank you for all the adjustments to the site..

        As a participant here for many years..

        I was ready to throw in the towel of late..

        Obviously you do care..

        Keep it going

        Enjoy the day


      20. We’ve past the point of rational argument with these people, when we beat them in debate they like an automaton regurgitate some knew slogan in an attempt to gain emotion, and they still fail because people (Thank God) are waking up.
        We are dealing with people who truly fall into the category of latent insanity, yes they’ve not broken out completely, but these people are power hungry crazy F—Ker’s. These people are dangerous even given their small number, they are an infection that we cannot let exist, yet most days we stand in shock to their lack of reason, logic and spirituality.

        Two options remain: one is a bullet, which could be considered a waist of resource, both the lead itself and the human maybe. Two is these people learn to truly look at the world around them and begin to see the reality of God and nature.

        Amazing how difficult it is to ask someone to find their individual place in the natural world and find themselves in the natural order of God…?

      21. I have an issue with the part of the article stating:

        “Then, you will see the internet being regulated in a manner that will serve only the agenda of this administration”.

        IMHO should have stated:

        “Then, you will see the internet being regulated in a manner that will serve only the agenda of the AIPAC since all selected administrations are owned by the tribe”

        • +1

      22. What this country (the world) needs is a “Department of Common Sense”

        • Now your sounding like someone out of Atlas Shrugged,,,

        • Tishie,

          You mean like “The Affordable Care Act”? or “The Health Choices Act?”

          Uh, yeah. Nope. We don’t want government screwing up common sense too!

        • tishie what this country needs, is a good nickle candy bar.

      23. I truly believe that in the future, sites such as SHTF will not be allowed. If TPTB could turn back the hands of time, the internet would not exist or definitely not in its current form. It is simply beyond their control. Where else can people like us engage in debates and spread alternative views (aka the truth)?

        Until that time comes, keep on speaking the truth SHTF crew and give the bastards hell in the process.

        • On the contrary, in the future, sites like shtfplan will be allowed because that’s how tptb will be able to keep tabs on the true patriots. That way they can come and take them out one by one when it suits them. To close the internet sites like this one down would keep them from knowing who still resists them.

      24. The trolls and disinformation agents will have to crawl back under their dung pile now.

        In regards to the article: Strange how what is occurring in our country mirrors what happened in Germany before the Nazi takeover.

        • You ain’t kiddin’. “Berlin Diary” by Wm. L. Shirer. He was there.

        • Well, I guess the silver lining would be…..thank God it isn’t mirroring what happened in Russia when the Bolsheviks murdered anywhere from 20-66 million whites.

      25. tishie–there is a Common Sense elective in college.
        When I attended 95% failed!!
        (sarcasm off)

      26. I give 0bama a brown thumb

      27. They want to destroy the First Amendment the say way they have destroyed the Second Amendment – by unconstitutionally restricting it with licenses and permits and fees.

        I presume the UK is the Beta test site:

        You can probably safely presume that anything they don’t like will be slandered as ‘extremist’.

        • Britain has no written Constitution. It also has always had a State Religion, benign though it may have been for the last century or so. The idea of restricting speech was normal at the time of our Revolution, and that ‘tradition’ has never completely died.

      28. The tyrants in high places in the United States government, military, intelligence agencies, media,etc, know without a doubt that they deserve the death sentence a 1000 times over for the heinous crimes and treason they have committed against the American people.

        They’re not getting away with anything really. Keep your lists of traitors up to date. Many of us know what to do when the opportunity presents itself. Enough is enough.

        • For

          Roger. Copy.

          I think the time is approaching. I hate to see it. Violence is so, uh, VIOLENT! …and I’m a peaceful man.

          But, like JFK said, they make it inevitable.

        • Good post Casper 🙂

      29. Over 100 comments on this thread so far. and Im gonna name it . Im the first to mention EBOLA! From the Start I contended EBOLA would be a fizzle. And Im very happy that its not a pandemic.

        • I think it was just another hoax in their quiver to shoot at us for distraction. Maybe to keep us from seeing whats going on in Nevada. Bundy ranch stuff heating up again.

      30. I really like Whittle’s videos, however, he seems to be stuck in the left/right false paradigm. Its a fooler. Its a ruse. Its the slavery people against the liberty people.

        Think of the true arrangement as:


        Most people don’t see it correctly and, thus, make many mistakes.

        • Hey I resemble that statement 🙂

          You just say it so much nicer than I do.

          The mean pills I been eatin really have me on edge these days.

          Hey whatchya doing next weekend?

      31. OK folks the UN is gettin way too much power all of a sudden.
        Argueing water is a “human right ” in detroit.
        As if you hook up to services and dont expect to pay.

        Sayin that pot laws in colorado violate THEIR international laws ? wtf?

        The Brown family in missori takin their sons case to geneva ? Dont US law stand anymore?

        Why is so much power being handed over?
        Agenda 21 ?
        Why is the UN injecting itself into our system , and why does the MSM try to make us believe that they have that power?

        Why did Obama make a deal with the chinese that we will double down on supposed emmissions and they aint gotta do shit until 2030 ?
        The socialist steamroller is high gear folks .

        lots to ponder , NO?

        • Saying don’t make it so. The UN says a lot of stuff. I think they even have an Anti-Corruption task force. Its like Satan getting Fire Chief certification.

          They’re worthless. Notice that the planes didn’t fly into the UN building. Wonder why?


          • Maybe there was not enough insurance on it?

        • Perceived power shouldn’t fool patriots, but sadly it does. It does so every day, even here in amerikka i.e. cops….I wish all would wake up and realize what true authority is, who has it and who they got it from as to whether or not it is self perceived and falsely portrayed or real authority.

        • Hammerhead:

          The UN IS the NWO. You must be just catching up?

      32. Put this on last post but thought it was appropriate to redo.

        Psychological (website) warfare tactics?

        Attacking the messenger (distraction) – The purpose of these insults is to distract observers from the topic being discussed and to try to prevent them from thinking critically about it or to try to cause them to lose interest in it.

        Insulting intelligence or ideas (deflection) – This can be either an attack on the messenger or an attack on the ideas themselves by trying to make them appear stupid, unpopular, foolish, crazy, insane, etc. The purpose of these insults and belittling comments is to make observers think that the topic is unworthy of their consideration or investigation.

        Negative association (deflection) – This tactic attempts to link one topic to another unrelated topic that sounds crazy or stupid to most people, like aliens, UFOs, shape-shifting lizards, etc. The idea is to get the observer to think that people who believe in one topic also believe in another crazy topic and to conclude that the topic in question is unworthy of their consideration or investigation.

        Divide and conquer (distraction) – With this tactic they pretend to be one of their enemies, and then they proceed to say hateful, disgusting or inflammatory things to get people to attack the group they are pretending to be. They also do this to make their enemies look evil or stupid in the eyes of the other group.

        Controlled dissent (deception) – With this tactic they pretend that they agree on most topics and even promote the topics they pretend to agree on, but they will defend the Established version of the topic they want to discourage investigation on, or they will use one of the other forms of Established psychological warfare tactics to discourage investigation of a new topic, for example attacking the messenger, insulting intelligence or ideas, negative association, divide and conquer, etc.

        Role modeling (deception) – With this tactic they try to get the observer to think that reacting a certain way is normal or desirable. For example they will pretend not to be interested in a topic, that the topic or activity isn’t worth their time that they are afraid to do something or concerned about the consequences. In short, they will pretend to react how they want the observer to react to try to ensure that the observer does not take the appropriate action or react in the appropriate manner.

        Behavioral projection (deception) – With this tactic they project their own behavior onto the person they are attacking or onto another group that they wish for the observers to attack. For example they may claim (while posing as a Freedom/liberty behind an anonymous account) that Target group would infiltrate a Freedom/liberty website and pose as proponents to blame target group for things they didn’t do, when in fact it is the posers that have infiltrated the Freedom/liberty website and are posing as Freedom/liberty to blame Target group for things they didn’t do (like 9/11) and to encourage Freedom/liberty to hate Target group so that Freedom/liberty will never think to unite with Target group to defeat the infiltrators.

        Reverse projection / playing the victim (deception) – With this tactic they project a horrible circumstance onto themselves while actually creating a horrible circumstance for their victim. By pretending to be the victim of a horrible situation while attacking their victim they either catch their victim off guard so the victim doesn’t realize they are being attacked until it’s too late, or they catch observers off guard so observers don’t realize who the real attacker is and defend the real victim.

        Government is nothing more than “Adopted” authority. Over you.
        Do you, as a thinking intelligent human need a piece of parchment to give/dictate your natural given rights?

        What do you not understand?

        • +1 very nice post

          • WOW! That sure swell describes all of them Anti Gentiles around here no…Also great descriptions of BOTH the State that has for its state slogan…”Thru Deception You Shall Cause WARS” And every single one of their high paid MSM TV dupe shaboz goys aka hannity, palin, beck, Et Al.

            They ALL either FIT to the proverbial T one or more or even ALL of the above descriptions eh…

            But unless and untill someone with enough $$$ to Bypass all of MSM to still get thru to the majority of usa folks, and get folks to act as one in unison to stop the madness and insanity and do so SOON..We shall continue in a proven failure when instead too many subscribe to what they call “Leaderless Resistence”

            So far leadersless has ended up with 100 Million folk headed in 200 million different directions at same time it seems. And nobody without Massive cash at hand to use for a bypass of MSM TV etc will ever reach anywheres enough folk so as to create a Rally of likeminded folk with the true facts, and cause a good enough reason for them folk to Act like an ARMY of ONE to FIX whats wrong.

            Basically all talk and debates and pleas has also proven worthless mostly…What is going to Really work swell and the ONLY method ever proven to work at all is to simply, after getting that army of one organized etc is to offer the kommies and evil doers and total dupes THREE seperate choices…This will prove we are righteous and christian-like since the kommies NEVER offers ANY choices.

            #1- Straighten Up ASAP and act right…

            #2-Pak them Bags, and EXIT ASAP like in 24 hrs or else.(SEE #3)…

            #3- Put the Bastards up against a wall and send in the fireing squads.

            I know of zero other options if the Goal is a FIX.

            And the second you allow THEM( kommie enemys side) a chance to question or debate Your ideas or methods?

            Then in the very Next second of time…You and Your agenda are Done, Finished for good.

            THEY cannot be allowed any amount of questions nor debate time…For then we too must resort to Their assinine ways of change word meanings, introduce scams, and falsehoods etc….Which Will cause Us to become Like Them too…Then we has zero left to bitch or fight about and Bye Bye FIX.

            Act like a civilized white man, get the fuck OUT or get Taken OUT!…And I for one think Three such choices is more than generous! generous to a fault!…THEY’D never offer such alternates to Us.

        • Pardon me; But would not simply:”Kill them all, let God sort them” Work on all cases?

        • WOW how ironic I come along and read this post now. I was just googling for a saying about “first they deny then they marginalize you and then they fight you” or something along them lines. I got to thinking about it when I started thinking about how I have noticed the word troll used a lot around here…..albeit incorrectly and usually tied to words like; left, leftist, lib, liberal, libtard.

          I was thinking that is the strategy to marginalize someone with arguing facts….and an old tactic that all sides of the political spectrum use. Since a large number of people here on this site consider them selves to the right of the aisle, it makes sense that you would see the word troll associated more with the rights slamming of the left. Just and observation I was just thinking about when I came across your post here and I could expound upon the psychological argument warfare when people on the internet use these tactics, but I hate typing. I know this……I know when I see it, I lose respect and/or trust in that poster because I know what’s behind it, whether it be willfully or by ignorance. If anything, I will look more at the other persons posts and what to know what it is others are using these tactics to try and hide and why they are trying so hard to marginalize this person adn their view……I usually start to find more truth when I go down that trail then when I listen to the one using the BS no factual argument and marginalization tactics.

          Anyway, I find it kind of funny the misuse of the word troll on this site, either purposefully or by idiots who are too stupid to know any better or just repeating what they hear others say because they are weak minded.

          Don’t get me wrong, they are definitely trolls, but not to the tune that we see the word.

          Oh and for the record for those that haven’t been paying attention….I am not left, middle or right. I hate all politicians and know them to all be corrupt adn working for the same people, and we are not the people their working for.

          • Edited version with correct words and spelling to make more sense….told you I hate typin.

            WOW how ironic I come along and read this post now. I was just googling for a saying about “first they deny then they marginalize you and then they fight you” or something along them lines. I got to thinking about it when I started thinking about how I have noticed the word troll used a lot around here…..albeit incorrectly and usually tied to words like; left, leftist, lib, liberal, libtard.

            I was thinking that is the strategy to marginalize someone instead of arguing facts….and an old tactic that all sides of the political spectrum use. Since a large number of people here on this site consider them selves to be right of the aisle, it makes sense that you would see the word troll associated more with those still stuck in the right/left matrix and right of the aisle slamming the left. Just an observation I was just thinking about when I came across your post here and I could expound upon the psychological argument warfare when people on the internet use these tactics, but I hate typing. I know this……I know when I see it, I lose respect and/or trust in that poster because I know what’s behind it, whether it be willfully or by ignorance. If anything, I will look more at the other persons posts and want to know why it is others are using these tactics against them and what they are trying to hide and why they are trying so hard to marginalize this person and their view……I usually start to find more truth when I go down that trail then when I listen to the one using the BS no factual argument and marginalization tactics.

            Anyway, I find it kind of funny the misuse of the word troll on this site, either purposefully or by idiots who are too stupid to know any better or just repeating what they hear others say because they are weak minded.

            Don’t get me wrong, there are definitely trolls, but not to the tune that we see the word, and a lot of times the one calling someone else a troll is the actual troll.

            Oh and for the record for those that haven’t been paying attention….I am not left, middle or right. I hate all politicians and know them to all be corrupt and working for the same people, and we are not the people their working for.

      33. Long live the rebellion. Mac you sir are surely a Jedi knight. May the force be with you!!
        I fear that the kill switch will soon be toggled on. Be safe my friends.


      34. I’ve been coming to this site for 6 months now.
        Never understood why someone would get upset over
        a red thumb. I am a doomsday prepper. Don’t believe
        what the government says at all! And giving someone
        a red thumb meant to me, I just did not agree with them,
        or I thought there comment was full of holes. You’re
        thoughts are not God’s message to everyone on the planet.
        Gave out a lot of green thumbs. But if you sounded like
        you wrote the comment halfway through a bottle of scotch,
        red thumb it was.

      35. Why is everyone so upset? You have the freedom to worship the sphere or spheroid of your choice. Your children are not only allowed but encouraged to worship the sphere in public school.

      36. I get the sense of more of a community without the thumbs. This has been the most positive string of posts I’ve seen since I first came aboard. Thanks, Mac and all you others.

      37. Color Coding Situations

        White: You are oblivious. You wouldn’t notice if anything dangerous was unfolding around you. Nor would you be prepared to react. May be caused by distraction, apathy, or false sense of security.

        Yellow: You are aware of your surroundings, calm, and alert. This is how a soldier is trained. You’re observant of close and distant, large and small. You are aware of your surroundings. You could react quickly if the situation was to change.

        Orange: You are aware there is a problem. You’re starting to process information that causes concern for safety. You process clues that something is wrong, and you’re formulating plans to deal with what may arise.

        Red: You are in trouble. You are aware that you need to fight or flee. The time for debating and assessment is over. Don’t succumb to “analysis paralysis”. Which involves thinking too much. Pick a plan and stick to it before it’s too late.

        Black: You are in panic mode. This level is worse than white level. You may be paralyzed with fear or indecision with panic behavior. This level is where your mind is frozen and you better wake up fast.

        1. Be Observant
        2. Recognize Threats
        3. Make a Judgment
        4. Act
        5. Don’t Panic

        • Humm; What color you got for setting at home on your computer, with a gun on your hip, one at hand on the desk, another on the desk, but the clip is only half loaded and your wondering if you should fill it up the rest of the way with +P hollow points? And absolutely nothing is going on because it’s -8 outside but you are listening carefully anyway?

      38. I wonder what Mr. Whittle had to say during the Bush years: The Patriot Act, Free Speech Zones, lies to start wars, 9/11, etc. Not that I disagree with anything said in the video, but I don’t trust anyone that seems to believe this is a right vs. left issue.

        • Whittle started out writing, not speaking on video. Some of his essays are still online. In the written stuff, he was not political at all.

          I really wish that somehow all of his written stuff could be published in a book, but if he’s got one blind spot, it’s thinking that video is the be-all and end-all of publication. He’s a screen writer, and has that blinder on. He refuses (I begged) to publish transcripts of his videos, which is tough on an old guy like me who a.)is too deaf to follow speech on computer speakers, and b.)can read about 10 times faster than he can speak anyway.

          IMHO it becomes a left-right issue only in that the major practitioners of censorship of political and social speech are in fact pro-state-domination (i.e. leftist) “Democrats”.

      39. Here’s a couple of sites about packet radio, which could be a possible way around the internet:

        ht tps://
        ht tp://

        My brother is the expert. If he had his way, my back yard would look like the antenna farm at Voice of America, except my yard would have trees instead of metal towers.

        Also, you might want to research wireless mesh networks using wireless routers for shorter distances.

      40. I hate to be the shit on the bottom of your shoe, but…if god existed, he wouldn’t give us the rights that we have. He sure as hell wouldn’t bless a country with freedom of religion. Read the old testament…those are the ones he wipes off the planet. Freedom of speech? Sorry, can’t take the lord’s name in vain. Pursuit of happiness? Not for gays…he’d have you stone them. It’s a good thing he’s only imaginary.

        • Read the New Testament.

          • That’s a GREAT idea old crusty SHOULD read that since you seem to know little about it.

          • Sorry old coach…I’ve studied the bible for the last 30 years, that’s how I came to this conclusion. The god that you believe in, is not compatible with our rights in any testament. God is the same yesterday today and forever. God is a jealous god (have no other gods before me). Are you a prepper? Here’s a little new testament nugget for ya. Do NOT store up treasures for yourself here on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and thieves break in and steal.

      41. It can be said that ALL hacking is done by government operatives for the purpose of creating the perceived “need” of the government to regulate (restrict) the Internet in order to “protect the public” (protect the elites from competition from the truly individually innovative public!).

      42. To the modern tyrant the battlefield is everywhere

        “where soldiers of the machine who claim they are just following orders actively work to supplant and undermine the voice of the people. […] to destroy the credibility of the message […via vicious] and direct attacks against their users.”

        I wanted to say, “Got dang, does that remind you of anyone here? If you’ve been reading long, an intense blood lusting Kid, maybe?” But, then I thought about how limited that seemed.

        “The ‘plumbers team’”? …and they thought they were Americans. Psft. Fascist bastards, is more like it.

        “And during all of that, there will be the Obama team flooding the internet with misinformation and disinformation. In fact, that is already taking place.”

        What an Orwellington (and that other fella I forget the name of with more dismal prospects for the future) ending to the false idea of freedom so many have.

        The Blog says, “this is asymmetric warfare against the American people.”

        It’s too bad most of The People have no clue.
        They won’t see it coming, like a Sunday Sucker punch.
        They’ll act like they Never knew us and the words we say.
        They’ll say, “Facts, be damned! Full Speed ahead!”

        “The Wall” is already up. When do they start knocking down doors and rounding up The Usual Suspects? Some will reply,”…Yesterday”?

        To the modern tyrant the battlefield is everywhere

        Nothing outside the state, everything within the state, there’s nothing But The State?

        Long Live, The White Rose!

      43. TEST <<<< has absolutely ZERO credibility now that he has been outted as JOW BLOW-ME. I wonder how many other names this idiot is posting under? He may be the troll that was responsible for the mass red thumb attack… might want to look into this clown and how many names he may be posting under.

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