Top Cyclical Forecaster: “Yes, A Mad Max Event Is Possible”

by | Oct 10, 2014 | Forecasting, Headline News, Martin Armstrong | 613 comments

mad-max-road-warrior(Mad Max 2: Road Warrior ; Credit: Warner Bros. / Kennedy Miller Entertainment)

His computer forecasts are so accurate that in 1987 he took out a full page ad weeks in advance warning Americans of the coming Savings & Loan scandal and subsequent stock market crash. He pegged the crash to the very day it happened. A couple of years later in 1989 his “intelligent” computer models screamed warning signals about the coming collapse of the Japanese stock market, which he said would drop at least 20,000 points over a ten month period. He was, once again, dead on.

The destruction of the Russian ruble in the 1990’s, the rise and fall of the dot.com bubble, and the collapse of the U.S. economy in 2007-2008 were all verified predictions that he made well in advance of the events happening.

His models, which are based on historical cycles dating back thousands of years and take into account everything from economic statistics and capitals flows to government regulations and daily sentiment, led to such accurate forecasts that he was accused by the U.S. government of manipulating global stock markets. It was an accusation that left him imprisoned without official charge or trial for over half a decade, presumably because he refused to give away his computer model programs to intelligence agencies.

Whether you’ve heard of Martin Armstrong or not, his record speaks for itself. And if you have missed his insights and forecasts over the last several years (even those he wrote prior to his release from prison), it’s time you start paying attention.

Among his current forecasts Armstrong has argued that stock markets may drop a little in the near future but the Dow Jones is likely to go as high as 30,000 points. He says real estate will continue to collapse not just for a few years to come, but decades. And he says that a major cyclical turning point will take place in the Fall of 2015 (2015.75)wherein numerous sub-cycles will converge to create a perfect storm. It’s an event that doesn’t happen often, but when it does, it often changes the very face of the planet is it relates to politics, geographic borders, and economic influence.

Armstrong’s bottom line: Get ready for the end of the world as we have come to know it over the last several decades. Things are about to change – drastically.

In his most recent writing Armstrong responds to a reader who asks what we should expect going forward. His answers are typically well grounded and very rarely if ever sensationalized, so when he makes an analogy like the one you’ll read below, take it as a serious heads up to what might result when governments, economies, business and political forces converge in on themselves:

I understand that we are at a crossroads. The tree has been cut. Which way will it fall – authoritarian or democracy?

We can make a difference. Step one is understanding what is the problem. At least then we can address a solution with some reasonable game plan.

We have a great convergence coming. It is nothing to be afraid of and it is nothing we can ignore.

Yes a Mad Max event is possible.

The average person depends upon government tremendously – even those not on welfare. There are pensions and Social Security that people really believe they are “entitled” to and thus these benefits will exist. What happens when they realize they do not?

Socialism has even changed the historic bounds of family. You had 4 to 6 kids for that was your retirement. The kids knew they had the responsibility of taking care of their parents. Today – that’s government’s job. Everything has been changed to depend upon government that never tells the truth and they will defend to the very last drop of your blood.

Marriages were ARRANGED! The age difference was typically 25% during the 19th century. To sell movies, Hollywood turned lust into love at first sight. They painted the image of happily-ever-after. I spoke with film makers and they all said people did not want to leave a movie feeling depressed. They glorified marriage and set unrealistic standards. Consequently, the age difference collapsed and the divorce rate rose to 60%+ because of unrealistic expectations.

Pensions began as the marriage contract. The man had to first establish himself and then propose. The Dowry was all about ensuring the wife would be secure – the pension. It was not about “love at first sight” yet according to things like Match.COM, 70% of people dating expect love-at-first-sight. So many people have the wrong expectation of marriage and are thus doomed from the start.

Even the Black family was stronger than the white family before welfare. When you paid women not to be married and to have children, you change the family structure. Socialism has significantly altered the behavior of every race all based upon expectations of government.

Free food changes behavior be it people or animals. Being compassionate is to be human. To give a man a free fish and you feed him for a day. Tech him how to fish and your feed him for a lifetime. Government adopted the first strategy to create dependency upon the political system.

They tell you do not feed the bears in Yellowstone National Park because they then look for free food and no longer hunt. Humans are no different.

What happens when government collapses and people are totally unprepared because they never thought government collapses?

Source: Armstrong Economics via Zero Hedge

The answer should be pretty clear. Fully one-third of the American population depends on a government subsidy or distribution of some kind. Social Security, Welfare, Unemployment Insurance, Food Stamps, you name it. One in three Americans would be living on the streets if they didn’t get their monthly check.

Now, what happens when either that check stops coming, or prices for essential goods like food, energy, and housing inflate to such levels that monthly checks no longer cover the costs?

This is the inherent danger that exists within the system in which we live. Socialism, as Martin Armstrong notes, is our undoing and according to Margaret Thatcher will only work until we run out of other peoples’ money.

When that happens – and you better believe it will – America will collapse in on itself.

A Mad Max scenario, while unlikely, is certainly possible. So much so that the U.S. government has been actively preparing for this very possibility for the last decade. They’ve simulated large-scale economic collapse scenarios, complete with stockpiles of armaments and executive doomsday orders ready to be initiated when the right crisis strikes.

We inch closer every day. Are you prepared for it? Or do you still think the government will be there to save us when it happens?

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    1. eppe

      Since everyone seems to hate this group, including me, I thought this would be appropriate… Enjoy…
      The IRS suspected a fishing boat owner wasn’t paying proper wages to his deckhand and sent an agent to investigate him.
      IRS AUDITOR: “I need a list of your employees and how much you pay them”.
      Boat Owner: “Well, there’s Clarence, my deckhand, he’s been with me for 3 years. I pay him $1,000 a week plus free room and board. Then there’s the mentally challenged guy. He works about 18 hours every day and does about 90% of the work around here. He makes about $10 per week, pays his own room and board, and I buy him a bottle of Bacardi rum and a dozen Budweisers every Saturday night so he can cope with life. He also gets to sleep with my wife occasionally”.
      IRS AUDITOR: “That’s the guy I want to talk to – the mentally challenged one”.
      Boat Owner: “That would be me. What would you like to know”?

      • calgagus

        Been reading about primitive lifestyles from ages ago. Some modern day writers and thinkers believe primitive lifestyles were the best for man and they lasted for tens of thousands of years. When we went from being a hunter and gatherer into more formalized agriculture and farming, our culture changed. Then came the industrial age. Our civilization was changed drastically w/in a short amount of time and were doomed. Its filled w/ greed and destruction. Aint nothing sustainable w/ our world now and technology is making everything even worse. Globalization is the end all and thats what it was designed to do. Power for the few w/ slavery for the masses.
        Armstrong is one smart dude but it dont take models to figure out what history shows us time and time again.

        Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.
        Live simply.
        Get back to the land.
        Chop wood, carry water.
        Remember whats important.
        Give thanks to God.

        • KY Mom

          calgagus,

          Excellent advice!

          For any newer preppers, here is a website with lots of useful information, how to get back to the land, live frugally, make things yourself, etc.

          Grandpappy

          How to Survive Hard Times http://grandpappy.org/indexhar.htm

          • Gods Creation

            I would suggest that NOW is the time to consider getting to your bug out location if you have one, or at least be ready to go in a moments notice. Whatever your plan, it is time to put it into action.

            Make it your permanent home, and live in your “city” home as a temporary shelter with all energy being focused on getting out permanently as soon as possible.

            People have been asking for years, “What’s the end game?”.

            This Ebola Attack IS the beginning of the end game. You will either be killed by the virus, or by the forced vaccinations, if the banksters have their way.

            If you do not already have or get the means to make colloidal silver TODAY, you will most likely die. If you red flag this posting, it’s your life. I think there is a 3 or 4 week time frame before the true scope of the Attack is made public by the attackers, who will consistently refer to it as an outbreak or pandemic instead of what it actually is.

            The End Game being played out right in front of you NOW. The People of the United States Of America are under a biological attack by agents in the United States Government. There is no doubt about it and you should begin to accept that and plan to live through it no matter what they do.

            There will be unimaginable horror over the next several months as you watch loved ones die and hear of death tolls in the tens of millions. If only they had listened to you, right?

            The banksters know that there is only one way to disarm the American people, and that is to kill them off first. Resistance is not futile, it is the only way you will survive.

            People want to know when to act and how. Now is the time to act, and the only thing you can do is protect yourself from what is coming and be ready to see a lot of things you can’t even comprehend seeing today.

            I have been posting here a long time, and I don’t say things like this without meaning it and having ample reason to believe I am correct.

            I am sending a warning to all that this is NOT a drill or test. Those have already been done. All of the preparations have been made to kill us in the millions, and to remove any doubt about the fate of America. Billions of bullets, hundreds of thousands of coffins big enough to hold ten people each, military assets in local areas all through the country.

            What you have been prepping for is here now. Hunker down and ride out the storm. Cut electronic communications with those who refuse to cut electronic communications. Become invisible.

            Things will go down slowly at first. There needs to be enough “naturally occurring” cases in order to cover unleashing openly.

            Don’t think that because it doesn’t happen in the next two or three weeks that I am wrong. It may take 30 to 60 days to go down.

            If you don’t see me around here for a while, don’t worry. I will be safe and my family protected from the Ebola threat and whatever other virus the attack with.

            I wish you the same.

            • Jay

              That is the most insane thing I have ever heard.

              • yourmotherwaswrong

                “What happens when government collapses and people are totally unprepared because they never thought government collapses?”

                The government collapsed in the former Soviet Union, and yet the country never devolved into a “Mad Max” event!!!

                I would argue that today, Russians have more freedoms than Americans!

                Tell me I’m wrong!

                USA… NSA… DHS… TSA… USA!

                • SolitaryMan

                  What do you think about it all, Wrong.
                  Were we right or were we right.

                • CottonRoad

                  The same for the American and French Revolutions and the Great Depression of 1929 to WWII.

                • yourmotherwaswrong

                  @SolitaryMan:

                  I think this country has gone down the path of WRONG!

                  What do you think?

                • SolitaryMan

                  yourmotherwaswrong

                  I hope to tell you, mother.
                  I’ve been on this planet for a long time now,
                  and it isn’t very hard to see this train is
                  running out of track.
                  That being said, here’s wishing you and yours
                  the best of everything and may you fair well.

                • wrong

                  I’m pretty darn happy with my path…

                • talon1776

                  Yeah…but those revolutions didn’t have Generation Wuss, the FSA, hyper illegal invasion, a printing press, Keynesian economics, a suppressive Global Elite orchestrating in real time imposing slavery of all the masses at once, satellite surveillance, GMO, created deadly OBOLA with more to come, willing drones in our military to do their masters bidding regardless of their oath as well as LEO’s, TV, Google, HAARP, NSA and the assorted ilk of alphabet soup departments making law through regulation without our consent…and the list grows larger every moment.
                  Those revolutions were purer in passionate beliefs..this revolution will be so muddled, fractionalized, compartmentalized that it will indeed be “Mad Max” on steroids.

                  Live Free or Die…only you and your love ones matter
                  Talon1776

                • SolitaryMan

                  As well you should be, Wrong.
                  Great family, Primo area, High esteem in
                  your community.
                  Happiness is a satisfied mind.

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Like Stolen Valor, eppe rips off another cut and past joke.

                  And he must have sat around all day ping-ing the website to see if a new article was written so he could be the first poster. Sheesh, Get your own life.

                • wrong

                  Hey SolitaryMan!!!! Hows it going over there? I was in town through the summer but never had the balls to make it through all the fudge. No I’m north of there about 20 miles. I’ll be there till late spring/early summer.

                  I’ll be over in your area in a week or so. Most likely on a weekend. I’ll look ya up.

                  Things sure seem like there getting worse by the day. obola sure has control of everything though so no worries.

                  Hope all is well.

                  PS There’s a place near where I work that makes pretty good cinn. sticks. When I go by at 6:30 every day on the way to work their still warm.. Always think about ya 🙂

                • SolitaryMan

                  Hey Wrong, great to hear from ya.
                  I take it you are working near fishtown.
                  My door is always open for you my friend.
                  Stop in anytime.

                • Derrick

                  true that, but russia, eastern europe & all the ‘stan’ countries went thru some really hard times complete with major economic dislocation & suffering. in the former yugoslavia, it ended with civil war. chechnya is still a mess from it all. russia itself today certainly has a serious problem relating to organized crime/mafya.

                  my point being, it’s not like everything was hunky-dory after communism ‘fell’ back in 1991, nor is it so today.

                  strangely enough, russia might be on the right track now while america is clearly on the wrong one. this 80s kid whose church used to pray for conversion in russia can’t help but wonder: what up with that?

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Joke theft is the act of performing and taking credit for comic material written by another person without their consent. This is a form of plagiarism and sometimes can be copyright infringement.[citation needed]
                  A common epithet for a joke thief is “hack”, which is derived from the term, “hackneyed” (Meaning, “over used and thus cheapened, or trite”).[1]

                  Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke_theft

                  Now in eppe’s case here he is using jokes as his main purpose on this site, and offers little of any other sort of substance or fails to comment to the actual article or any other advice towards prepping. So when I called him out for his signature purpose of posting jokes, and declared him a Joke thief, he becomes very unsettled, cause he has nothing else to lean on. If eppe had contributed a lot of other good information and posts a joke here and there, well no problem, since we can all do it. But he consistently day after day uses stolen jokes as his main event or purpose, then he should be called out as a Fraud. I even asked if eppe is so funny that he post his own jokes, and he has jet to do so. So lets see if in the future eppe starts posting the source of his daily jokes or still tries to pass them off as his own material.

                  Recourse and consequences
                  There is, historically, very little legal recourse taken in cases of joke theft. Some comics, however, have chosen to exact their own justice. W. C. Fields reportedly paid fifty dollars to have a thieving comic’s legs broken.[3]

                  Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke_theft

                  Soon eppe won’t have a single leg to stand on. bwhaaaaaa Yes that was my original joke.

                • .02

                  the bakken is filling with Congolese. walmart is hiring them in droves and they do everything from cooking the food in the deli to checking/stocking. when not at work they all hang out in the isles being a traffic nuisance speaking in foreign tongue. first case of this ebola/congo fever shit getting north probably be here. I am taking precautions and watching VERY closely.

              • durango kidd

                I agree Jay, there is lots of time left for those who read and understand scripture.

                While the next crash could occur at any time because all of the precursors are in place, an extended bear market could develop within a lower trading range as seems to be the case based upon the past week or so. I have said as much here several times since July.

                A great expose’ at Zero Hedge about the 666 HFT manipulation, which confirms that the PTB do not yet want a Crash, but they may not be able to control events as much as they like. Any retracement of 25% or less over a few days or weeks would likely be of short duration until late Spring of next year.

                The demographics for housing are over as I have said here for a couple years, and for those with cash it is a good time to buy a house or land at a serious discount if you are a good negotiator, understand the market, and recognize your financial strength. Knowledge is power. Get some.

                The next Crash is just another business cycle concluding while the FED mops up the remains from the last debacle. It is NOT FINANCIAL TEOTWAWKI.

                Can you say, “Chicken Little”? LMAO! 🙂

                • yourmotherwaswrong

                  the durango kidd says:

                  The demographics for housing are over as I have said here for a couple years.”

                  Say what???

                  You have trumpeted the “housing recovery” meme here many times within the last “couple years.”

                  And now you say: “The demographics for housing are over.”

                  LMAO.

                  You sir, are a fraud.

                • durango kidd

                  YMWW: I have NEVER trumpeted the “housing recovery” as you say. I even warned of a second leg down in the housing market here in late 2012. And I specifically noted that the demographics for housing are over.

                  I have a thousand dollars, that’s right, 10 Franklins that I will give you if you can point to my post in the archives by comment number that contradicts my claim. Conversely will you give me a thousand dollars if I point to my comment in the archives, that confirms my claim?

                  Mac can hold the money asswipe.

                  Put you money where your mouth is. Search the archives when you find my “lie”, send Mac your money, accept my challenge, and embarrass the shit out of me if you can.

                  You sir, are a fucking liar. 🙂

                • Lou

                  “The demographics for housing are over as I have said here for a couple years.”

                  Well lets look at some fundamentals

                  o !/3 of collage grads are living with their parents because they cannot afford a cheap shared APARTMENT.

                  o Obama Death Care is chopping hours to less than 30 a week

                  o 70% of many jobs are working part time.

                  o Many young people around here consider 14 bucks/hour a decent job.

                  So where is the first time buyer coming from? Without the first time buyer the housing market is DEAD.

                • clark

                  durango kidd says: “I have NEVER trumpeted the “housing recovery” as you say.”

                  For posterity I say: Bol-Fing-sheet.

                  The dude argued with me endlessly that “now” was the time to buy a house in Az and elsewhere. That time frame was 2012 or there-abouts. Anyone who bought when he said to buy, is what’s known as, a “f*cked buyer”.

                  Yeah. The dude is a police state/empire loving fraud.

            • Anonymous

              I agree with you on this 100%, God’s Creation. However, what if you don’t have a bug out location?? I can either get an apt, stock up on food, hunker down in this hell hole (God is bereft)or leave this hell hole, find good location but not enough time to get an aprt maybe… God is more imp and this hell hole is bereft of God… APOCALYPSE is on our doorstep– that is for sure. we are headed into a pandemic and all our civil liberties gone.. what do do, what to do?! 🙁

              • dave in Idaho

                Location, location, location…then work on the rest.

                • Anonymous

                  Thanks, Dave, was thinking along the same line…

                  During past pandemics, how many people survived in cities? How many survived in mountainous/ rural areas? Like you said, “location, location, location.” 🙂

              • Walt Kowalski

                I said on the thread from yesterday that if I had a bugout location to go to, I would be loading the truck now.

                If we do in fact have an Ebola epidemic in this country, waiting until the epidemic is upon us to relocate, will be too late. You’ll never make it to your location unless you can find a way around the traffic jams and check points…AND….your location is within the distance you can travel without refueling.

                If things go bad due to Ebola, expect them to go very bad, very quickly.

                • Walt Kowalski

                  I would add…..I do not fear Ebola itself. I can hunker down in my house and get by just fine. Being in Texas, I would actually prefer that this occur in winter rather than summer. I don’t need electricity to heat the house.

                  My concern is two-fold…

                  1. Civil unrest

                  2. The government

                  And not necessarily in that order. My biggest concern is if the government goes house to house trying to force people into taking vaccinations. I’ve already stated, I will not comply. I would imagine it will all go downhill from there. The only hope I would have is that they will be too busy trying to quell riots and looting. I feel a little more confident about protecting my family, myself and possessions. Well aimed fire tends to discourage those who would try to take advantage of the situation.

                • Grey Dog

                  Ebola is a blip on the radar of deadly communicable diseases that run rampant through Africa. If your concerns were anything but overblown we should have stopped flying there a long time ago. I read somewhere that over 60% of deaths in Africa are from communicable disease, Ebola isn’t even a ranking contender for the most deadly there. So forgive me for not getting my panties in a wad just because the deaths are more gruesome than some of the others. Although I hazard a guess that a cholera death is no cake walk

                • Walt Kowalski

                  @Grey Dog

                  Statistics like that are meaningless. They are like the comparisons I’ve heard made between Ebola and seasonal flu. The line goes, “we have hundreds of thousands of cases of flu every year, and nobody gets upset about that.”

                  The problem with that line of reasoning, is that seasonal flu, or the complications arising from it, do not end up killing 50-70% of the people who are infected.

                  What other communicable disease in Africa is bringing the economy of the affected region to a virtual standstill? What other disease has people literally dying in the streets….having been turned away from the hospitals? And what other disease in Africa is killing hundreds of medical workers who are treating its victims?

                  As Mark Twain once said, “There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

                  When it comes to Ebola, you would do well to compare apples to apples…and not apples and oranges.

              • eppes dog

                hey life is ruff right now I wants everyone to know I made’s up these jokes and lent them to my master boss eppe guy so he could post them heres. So he stolen them from me kinda. woof woof..

                • eppe

                  If you wudda been a cat, I would understand, but eppe has no dog, but since WWTI is fucking with everyone here, what can you expect?

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Wrong eppycat. I am not f-n with everybody here just calling you out for ripping other peoples jokes off trying to make everybody think you are some funny clever guy but you are just a fraud stealing other peoples work. If you truely a funny guy post your own jokes or give the source of the joke so the real funny guy gets the credit. Other wise all you are is a cut and paste identity thief. Be a man and post the source or are you just a plagergzing thief?

            • Lou

              “This Ebola Attack IS the beginning of the end game. You will either be killed by the virus, or by the forced vaccinations, if the banksters have their way.”

              Yes I do believe that is the plan. Ebola may not be the Political Pandemic virus but the next one, if required, probably will be. This may be a test as so many before have been; H5N1, H1N1, SARS ect. I do believe you can protect yourself from EBOLA IF you avoid ALL NEEDLES.

              http://healthyprotocols.com/2_ebola.htm

              • Klemens

                The easiest way to stop the banking tyranny, is to change as many as possible Dollars into silver coins. Everybody has to do this! greetings from Germany

                • Anonymous

                  Klemens, You are correct as long as we make sure the silver market not being controlled by the tribal bansksters . My grandpa used to call them the parasites and the bottom feeders and sadly and his biggest pain was the truth was reversed about his generation and the true Germans.

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Klemens. To get away from the Banking Tryanny is for yhe US to print our own money an immedietly abandon the worthless fiat Federal Reserve Dollar. Another words Kick the Private Fed to the curb.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              GUN BUYING FASTER in 2014 than 2012- America is Getting Rampped up for the Government Martial Law Scam.

              NICS Checks Show Gun Purchases Strong in 2014

              Posted on October 10, 2014
              New numbers reported by the FBI suggest that Americans may be buying firearms at a slightly higher rate in 2014 than they did in 2012, following a record number of checks during the “surge” brought on by President Barack Obama’s re-election in November 2012 and his subsequent campaign for gun control.

              Because Americans bought guns at an unusually high rate in 2013, some commentators have compared the 2013 numbers to those in 2014 and on that basis claimed that gun purchases are in serious decline. However, that’s like saying that a professional football team’s offense is waning, because after racking up 30 points in the first quarter and 40 points in the second quarter, it has scored only 24 points in the first eleven minutes of the third quarter.

              Thus far in 2014, there have been 8.33 million checks for the purchase of firearms, compared to 8.29 million for the same period in 2012, and smaller numbers in previous years. These figures don’t include checks conducted for the purposes of purchase or carry permits, or several relatively uncommon categories of checks, nor do they indicate how many firearms were transferred as a result of the checks. NICS check numbers don’t indicate gun sales as accurately as firearm manufacturing and import statistics, but they are more up-to-date in general and they are updated on a monthly basis.

              Source: NRA-ILA

              • Warchild Dammit!

                All these gun buying checks do not take into account private face to face sales/home made firearms ect.There is a lot more folks arming themselves then the govt. or any really can pin a number on.Folks also adding old school bow/crossbow/and stuff from big home supply stores,the numbers are growing daily.

            • T-town

              Ummm….., there is no vaccine, taking it a bit far I’d say. I have no doubt that at some time we will have a major event that will change everything. I don’t think Ebola is it. Whatever it will be will happen so quickly that it will catch everyone off guard. We have had too much warning with Ebola, I just don’t think it is “IT”.

            • Anonymous

              How do you know how much silver water to drink a day? I also have small children. How much should they get? Thank you.

          • Old Guy

            K Y MOM thanks for the link. The segment on pets & livestock is very helpful. We had a large number of cattle. The price is very good. so we sold all but two and put the money into preps. now our pastures are overgrown. Im not going to bushhog . I want the place to look abandoned. I think in a shtf situation We wont be able to hide or bug out with the cows. However we could take the goats as they can survive almost anyplace. I also have lots of steel traps. My bug out bag is a pack saddle for my burro that has useful items and a little bit of food. I cashed stuff in several locations that are only accessable on foot. I think starving humans and a tyrannical govt. are a greater threat than Ebola.

          • WhoWuddathunkIt

            Everyone – Get this: Eppe says Comment ID: 3243880
            October 12, 2014 at 11:04 am

            “The Sun is just a star, burning out, in time will collapse, and the Earth will expire. We will expire.”

            Oh my, the solar system is now collapsing according to eppe. So when will this happen eppe? eppe must have been in the back of the science class room telling Jokes when they discusses our solar system. eppe do you know the difference between Plants vs. Stars? So you think the Sun is a star eh? bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Here is a clue the Sun is a Planet. lol

        • KY Mom

          Prepare yourself spiritually. This will give you strength to face whatever storm heads our way.

          Don’t give up! Whatever knowledge you have gained and items you have saved will help you and your family. It is frustrating – our money seems to buy less and less these days. Food storage doesn’t have to be fancy foods. Basic foods like dried beans, rice, oatmeal, canned vegetables & tomatoes, pasta, olive oil, etc. are least expensive and have a long shelf life.

          Everyone should have a garden. This will help in building a food stock. (Note: Container gardening works too. Fancy and expensive large containers aren’t necessary. Plants will grow in inexpensive 5 gallon containers. Just add a few holes in the bottom for drainage.)

          Search out “pick your own” farms in your area. If you can pick your own strawberries, blackberries, apples, etc. and then preserve them … you will save money.

          Get some heirloom or non-hybrid seeds. These are sold at a number of different places.

          Can or dehydrate your food. I bought a couple dehydrators at an outlet store. They are just basic models, but work fine. I like to dehydrate food, as it takes up less space. I store (and date on label) dehydrated vegetables in empty and cleaned mayonnaise jars. Remember the FIFO rule – first in, first out. (Use older food first.) I use these in making stews, soups, spaghetti sauce, etc.

          I am not an expert in this by any means. I am learning.

          “The Encyclopedia of Country Living” by Carla Emery is an excellent reference. It is the ‘original manual for living off the land & doing it yourself.’

          Thought for the Day

          Saint Theresa’s prayer:
          May today there be peace within.
          May you trust God that you are exactly where you are meant to be.
          May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of faith.
          May you use those gifts that you have received, and pass on the love that has been given to you.
          May you be content knowing you are a child of God.
          Let this presence settle into your bones, and allow your soul the freedom to sing, dance, praise and love. It is there for each and every one of us.

          • Mr Rodgers

            Thanks KY,

            It has been years since I saw – or thought of – St Theresa’s prayer…it is timely here, now.

            • Anon7

              Sounds great, as long as I can ride my motorcycle around with my bitches on the back.

          • FreeSlave

            KY Mom: “Prepare yourself spiritually.”

            Best advice ever!

            Suppose some driver t-bones you in an intersection during a SHTF calamity event as you’re driving home to your family to bunker down. You’re dead. And your family is wondering where the heck are you. Moreover, while you did an awesome job with preps and with building skills in using your preps for the SHTF scenario that’s unfolding as you expected, spending a sizable amount of money, time, and effort to prepare, you’re dead!!

            And you’re not spiritually prepared, and your family’s not either. What then, live-for-the-life-on-earth prepper?

            Follow KY Mom’s suggestion: Prepare yourself spiritually. Trust the One who Died on the Cross and Resurrected. That’s the Prep above all preps.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              KY Mom, There has been a lot of discussions in other forums about if the main prepper id dead or is not there, and they best answer is to create a 3 ring binder of “What If’s” and “How To’s” How to clean a gun, how to filter water, how to grow crops, how to bug out, how to can food, how to give first aid, etc. So if one person in your group is missing the rest can refer to the 3 ring binder books. It is also a great plan for every one in your group to also “CROSSTRAIN” in every aspect of your prepping, so everyone knows how to clean a gun collect water, cann food, give first aid, how to fish, hunt and trap. You are only as strong as your weakest link. Train and cross train for every aspect of your groups survival. That’s why they make FUN family weekend for. Have fun with it. Cheers!!

              • KY Mom

                WhoWuddaThunkIt,

                Excellent advice!

                As I find new information, I print and save it, along with many “how to” articles and file in 3 ring binders.

                Take care!
                KY Mom

                • Mountain Trekker

                  Survivalist Tip. Pick up one of those blaze orange stocking caps that they sell for about a buck, and carry it in your backpack or daypack or belly pack and then if your out hiking and happen to get lost or turned around it will come in very handy. It gets pretty cool at night in the mountains even in the summer. If you wear a cap, you can put it on right over your cap and it will help keep you warm, and if lost it will make it much easier for Search and Rescue to find you if searching from the air. Trekker Out.

                • sixpack

                  MT, there may very well come a time when we might not WANT to be spotted from the air…

                  Yes, I MADE IT OUT THE OTHER SIDE! But not unscathed. Next week I find out whether this is the end of it or not.

                  They wanted to nuke me, “just in case”.

                  I OPTED OUT. Chemo is too dangerous to use it so flippantly, on something that might not even be there.

                  The long and short of this lesson for me is, obamacare is a deathtrap. The only way you’ll survive the death panels, is to get informed and get ahead of them. They WILL pigeon-hole you if you let them…don’t let them.

                  They almost killed me—ALMOST.

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  MT Carry a Whistle. That is very profound sounding in the woods. Another trick we used to use when deer hunting in a large wooded area, and that was if there was anybody in the group that did not make it back to camp at least 20 minutes before dark time, that we would honk the car horn about 6 times, every 5 to 10 mins, so if someone was lost out there, they could start heading back in the direction of the camp. Over the years, that did use that method several times helping a few in our group find their way back in the dense forest.

                • SacJBP916

                  Hehe, yeah, I guess the OP was looking for something more like “just accept jesus and forget about this life” (which wouldn’t have been my answer either.)

          • Peterson

            LOL

            • the renegade braveheart

              Sixpack, if you don’t mind me asking, have you been diagnosed with some type of cancer?

              • sixpack

                Yes, RBH, thanks for asking. Advanced stage Endometrial Hyperplasia. It took me almost 3 yrs of arguing with no less than 5 idiot doctors about it.

                It wasn’t until I almost literally “bled out” on the floor in front of them, that they got an “epiphany” and called for the test that found the problem. By then, any high school biology student with a PDR could’ve diagnosed it…

                This surfaced a few months after the Fukishima accident, about the same time the plume officially hit our Oregon shores. I don’t know that it’s related, but they’re calling this condition “common” now.

                All I know is, it’s going to take more than that, to get rid of me.

                • eppe

                  Sixpack, you are a strong woman, look up all the natural herbs to take, and do them. We love you here, and let us know if there is anything we can do to make it better. This medical society is a joke, and the Fuckupshima just made it worse. I am praying you will come thru unscathed, and will be with us for a long time.
                  Luv you always, you are part of us….

                • the renegade braveheart

                  Sixpack, I’ll be praying for you. I’m not familiar with the condition or disease you have, but I still remember what chemo did to my mother the last 18 months she was alive. She was diagnosed with breast cancer at 68 and we lost her at 76. Both of her breasts were removed. She didn’t really stand a chance at her age. Nobody could ever sell me on chemotherapy being good, not after I saw it turn my mother into a shell of her former self. She was a woman who was in top health and bursting with energy. She had her own variety of skills. You’re a very strong woman, I can tell from your posts which I always enjoy reading. You hang tough. this site wouldn’t be the same without you.

                • talon1776

                  Sixpack..please give sodium dichloro acetate serious consideration..it does cure cancer..my girl has survived because of it…I can plead,beg,implore..I hope for you..and please try it..IT DOES WORK
                  Live Free or Die..but certainly not from cancer
                  Talon1776

                  • dave

                    You are referring to DCA. The original studies on this, were done by the University of Southern Alberta. They asked for a grant from the government, to conduct proper human tests, but the government refused to fund it. So, they had a fund-raiser in their city, and enough was raised for that.
                    The CDC is still refusing to certify for that use, so essentilly, it is illegal to prescribe or administer.
                    Never the less, there is now a clinic in Toronto who is advertising it for the terminally ill. They have an outpatient operation, and the drug itself is very cheap. When- no if- I am diagnosed with cancer, that is one of the first things I will be looking closer at. Ya wanna come up to Canada for this treatment- you can crash on my couch. (I have to warn Ya- us Canucks party pretty hard.

                • YH

                  Sixpack,

                  Terribly sorry to hear about the diagnosis. I hope with competent medical attention it can be cured. Last year I ceased all business travel to Japan. Fukushima is still a radioactive hot zone and will remain so for the next several hundred years.

                  Birth defects and lower birth rates are already rapidly accelerating in Japan to the point where the government is encouraging Japanese couples to have more children as quickly as possible. Isn’t that just wonderful(sarcasm)? Just what Japanese need to do, expose more children to that radioactive toxic cesspool.

                  Governments are grotesquely self-serving, unscrupulous, and unconscionable. Is it any wonder why annualized Japanese household spending has plummeted by over 20% over the last few quarters?

                  Frankly I am far more worried about Americans and our exposure to the radioactive fallout than anything else.

                  Be well sixpack.

                • Overwatch

                  Sixpack, I wish you well. Working around Boston for a medical company, I see patients with cancer daily. They seem to do very well when diagnosed early and when they stick to their prescribed regimen. That said, it seems that the most successful patients all have in common a positive mental attitude and faith in God. Stay strong. Our family will pray for you.

                • PKLauLau

                  six: I have a little experience with this. If it is not too intrusive, I have a few questions.

                  Have you ever been diagnosed with endometriosis?
                  Are you on synthetic hormones?
                  Have you researched the link between overtly estrogenic properties of chemicals, plastics, foods, etc., that your estrogen receptors are binding with?
                  Are you balancing your estrogen with BIO-IDENTICAL progesterone? Not progestin, which has side effects and is patented (man-made with changes to progesterone molecule).
                  Are you going to have a hysterectomy?

                  Sorry if you already know this stuff…I don’t know how much research you have already done into this.

                  PKLL

                  PS: Mac, a side forum for specific topics would really be nice right about now…

                • Mikey in N FL

                  Sixpack,

                  Essiac tea, aloe vera gel and curcumin extract.

                • CameronD

                  My sister had the same thing. They removed it, wanted to do chemo and radiation which she refused. The oncologist sent registered letters saying how she was not cooperating to the obgyn and surgeon to cover his ass. She found a practitioner of Chinese medicine in N Carolina who prescribed reishi mushrooms, host defense, astragalus, etc. that can be bought a vitacost. Also betacarotene, vitamin D and calcium, I believe. Ty Bollinger wrote an awesome book “Cancer: think outside the box” I am not in health care, so don’t take this as medical advice. Ten years later my sister is still here and fine, thank God, while other people we know who had chemo and radiation are long gone, after suffering immensely. My prayers to you.

          • Anonymous

            NWO, FASCISM, BANKERS AT IT AGAIN… (at SGT Report)… same damn thing happened in the USSR when millions died, then Greece, etc, now here in the US!!

            Ed. Note: Detroit may soon become an epicenter for ebola distribution as sanitation and health conditions deteriorate in the face of this insane bankster-induced IMF-style austerity. A metropolitan area with no water is a fiction writer’s ideal setting for a manufactured “zombie apocalypse”.]

            • Rodster

              As i’ve said on numerous occasions, central planning is pure evil. It sets out to enslave the masses. Which is why all hell will break loose when the system fails. And to be clear, central planning is not just a USSA problem. All the advanced economies use it.

              France is about to collapse due to socialism.

              • Anonymous

                Roadster, It should be the responsibility and the first goal of each law abiding citizens in any and all countries on this planet to simply KILL every member and every entity that is part of the NWO criminal system. Kill them all, hang them by the trees and kill them again while they are hanged.

                • Paranoid

                  SHAME ON YOU!!!! That’s very hard on trees; trees are our friends.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                For decades The Government has been consolidating and centralizing government into one nice neat little package called Executive Order – NDAA. Illegal as hell.

                • eppe

                  WWTI, what are you going to do about it, you sure do talk a good talk, but actions, well we all think you are full of shit. Have a blessed day…

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Eppe since you never offer anything but cut and paste stolen jokes, or offer any prepping advice or anything of any value to contribute to the article conversation or even ask for any advice. What you going to do when SHTF? Go steal other peoples preps or prepping plan? Can you not think for your self? Sheesh.

          • BJ

            2015.75 is the 274th day of the year….which is Oct. 1.

            The last of the Tetrad (four blood moons of 2014 and 2015, that ALL fall on God’s holidays) is Sept. 28th….just 3 (a significant number to God) days apart.

            Not predicting anything, just find it interesting and IMO likely that something major will happen world wide.

            • Son of Liberty

              I hate to think it, but believe you’re onto something there. ‘the Four Blood Moons,’ and the ‘Mystery of the Schemitah’ are also soot on – I’m afraid.

              Love your God, n keep preparing.

              Blessings,

              Son of Liberty

              • Professor Higgins

                BJ and Son of..: You must be joking, you can’t be serious about some Bronze Age mythological nonsense! By the way, calendars have changed several times since these ‘so-called’ predictions/prophesies were written. Most Christian holidays were placed to coincide with the current pagan holidays of the period. Christmas being the biggest one; Luke Chp.2 says the Angels of the Lord told the shepherds living in the fields at night about the birth of Jesus. The only time they would be watching their flocks at night is when it’s warm, not when it’s freezing outside in late December, or even anywhere near winter solstice. It’s all made up stuff for the gullible and superstitious. But hey, most of you live in trailer parks and think the WWE is real, so I shouldn’t be too terribly surprised.

                • PKLauLau

                  Professor Higgins: Fail…

                • BJ

                  Higgins,
                  Your post in regards to mine, makes absolutely 0 sense. I didn’t mention old or new calendars, nor did I speak of any bronze age mythological anything.
                  I’ve never lived in a trailer park and I don’t celebrate pagan christian holidays.

          • TEST

            Thx KY mom. You always write good stuff

        • Eagledove

          I agree with : technology making everything even worse”.

          About everything in the world can cut both ways for the good and the bad.., technology slices hard both ways. We can grow an abundance of food., which is great for the people of the planet., but in return our nutrients in our food is being depleted. So., how great is technology? More food we produce, the more people that is born or lives for a longer time on Earth.

          look at the technology in health equipment that helps us live longer., in which I am happy for.., but on the other hand., we live longer and place a burden on the system. Nuff said., I hope I made my unpleasant point.

        • Anonymous

          PEOPLE, THE SITUATION DOES NOT LOOK GOOD!! I just went to Zero Hedge and Drudge Report and the news was very scary– things looking much worse. But then I went to “raconteur report”(website) and we are screwed!

          No wonder for the FEMA camps– its obvious what they have in mind, now. They have already declared Martial Law in Conn. 2 more people have ebola symptoms at LA airport (just came from Africa). CDC admits we’ll have around 1.4 M cases by Jan.. so how many by March? by May? The CDC admits it will take a year to control this outbreak of Ebola… we are headed into an Pandemic, obviously, if its going to take a year before its under control.. and the death rate doubles every 3 weeks or so… and the stock market seems to be crashing (go see at Zero hedge) and worst of all.. go and see the numbers of this thing at raconteur report… we are so screwed!!!

          • Upstate New Yorker

            @ Anonymous ~ I just read the Drudge report.
            Can you site a link re: the Martial Law in Conn.?
            Thank you for your information.
            Do not panic, you are at a good site with a wealth
            of information. I am sure you are careful and
            a good prepper.

            • durango kidd

              The Gov of Connecticut has AUTHORIZED the use of martial law in the even of an out break of Obola. Martial Law is not in force and effect.

              Another asshole giving himself power that he doesn’t have via Executive Order. 🙁

              • Upstate New Yorker

                Just read the article over at Zero Hedge.
                You are right D.Kidd, and Anon.

                • Warchild Dammit!

                  DK,there are plenty of tools to remove unauthorized power.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Calcagus- Models are a form of statistics. There is always a margin percentage of error. But let me guess, when you are driving and get lost, you are the type of guy that just keeps on driving right? While your co-pilot wife insists you stop and ask for directions. lol I bet you have an interesting sex life. Not!!

          BTW/ Alvin Toffler author of “Future Shock” also wrote a good book back in the early 80’s Called “THE THIRD WAVE”

          It is similar to what you describe –

          The First Wave is the settled agricultural society which prevailed in much of the world after the Neolithic Revolution, which replaced hunter-gatherer cultures.

          The Second Wave is Industrial Age society. The Second Wave began in Western Europe with the Industrial Revolution, and subsequently spread across the world. Key aspects of Second Wave society are the nuclear family, a factory-type education system and the corporation. Toffler writes:
          “The Second Wave Society is industrial and based on mass production, mass distribution, mass consumption, mass education, mass media, mass recreation, mass entertainment, and weapons of mass destruction. You combine those things with standardization, centralization, concentration, and synchronization, and you wind up with a style of organization we call bureaucracy.”

          The Third Wave is the post-industrial society. Toffler says that since the late 1950s most countries have been transitioning from a Second Wave society into a Third Wave society. He coined many words to describe it and mentions names invented by others, such as the “Information Age.”

          • Calgagus

            @WWTI
            WTF. Forget your meds again? Forget to let everyone know you yanked your info right off of Wikipedia?
            Around here at shtf, most of us give the source. Its the right thing to do. Adds credibility to what you say.

            I read Future Shock long time ago. Aint thought about Toffler for decades but Ill see if I can scrounge a copy of Third wave.

            • eppe

              WWTI is such a hypocrite, he bashes everyone, but then does the same himself. He must lead a sad life, he has stated he is ugly, hates GOD, but yet he cannot tell us where humanity came from. For 9 months he has come here and bashed most everyone in one way or another…

              • WhoWuddaThunkit

                Eppe the Joke thief plagiarism, posting stolen material. Get a life. You don’t post anything but stolen jokes and fails to post its source day after day. You life must be one big cut and paste joke. bwhaaaaaaaaa

                • Paranoid

                  Relax, 30 years ago I read about some guy that was copying down graffiti in old churches and Egyptian tombs. He said most of the jukes you hear are thousands of years old. Take my Pharaoh; please

              • WhoWuddaThunkit

                BTW eppe, I don’t hate anybody even if there is a God. I think the Sun is the Master of the Universe. You just hate me cause I caught you stealing other people jokes. Must suck being a daily fraud with no thoughts of your own.

                • eppe

                  The Sun is the master of the universe? The Sun is just one of billions and we are on the outskirts of just the Milky Way, or what we call it. And Hubble telescope shows there are billions of Milky Ways out there. We here on Earth are just a pimple on the microbe on the flea on the dog, which could shake it off in a microsecond.
                  Or is that too hard to comprehend?
                  Have a blessed day…

              • WhoWuddaThunkit

                btw eppe, post another stolen joke and I will call you out every time. At least post the source to give the person who thought it up the credit. Do you have any jokes you thought up all on your lonesome?

                • eppe

                  WWTI, Please ole great master of all, write a article yourself and present it here for everyone to read. I did, sometime ago. You sir, are just a shit stirrer, you yourself do not always post where it came from, names per say. BTW, if you can find names attached to the joke original makers, let me know, I would give credit to them, but since you cannot, bugger off, or are you just jealous??? Take your ginko, and get a life, or am I being to obtuse? Have a BLESSED day…
                  May the Sun cook your sorry excuse of a human…

            • WhoWuddaThunkit

              Calgagus, Yes I do usually post the source, thanks for the heads up. Unlike some thieves who steal thoughts and jokes daily…. or is all they post is someone else’s thoughts. I have no need to steal for personal gain or green thumbs.

              • Calgagus

                @WWTI
                Saw you had a link in another comment here, glad you did that. Elsewhere here one of the Anon posters said quite a bit but had nothing to point us to. Some questioned the comment, I searched for it but never found anything legit. Takes time away from prep work or other honey do stuff going on around here.

                Jokes aint the same as info and you know it. Eppe and a few others have the comic relief we need. If we cant laugh, we aint got much.
                Thoughts though? Stealing thoughts? Thats a God given right you dont and cant try to control.

                Come dawn, Ill be splittinn wood. Then off to church. Another 2 cords to put up this week. If my mind wanders like usual, I can guarantee Im thinking of a few jokes or how life keeps throwing curveballs, not squabbles on here. Time is short, its best to make good use of what we got.

                @Eppe, glad to see you back, man. Keep em comin.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Calig- btw I did give Alvin Toffler credit in my above comment for his book. 3rd wave. Wikapedia just gave the illustration of what each wave was and described.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Eppe you spew such hatred cause I called you out. I have no need to hate any body or need to swear like you do then you hide behind your religion like a coward and say have a blessed day. That is what’s illustrate as a hypocrite.

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Btw eppe. Where ever you get the stolen cut and paste jokes from if you can cut and paste the jokes you can surely cut and paste the web link URL as well. Come on be a man paste the source link.

        • BB

          …and have an average life expectancy of 40 years

        • Anonymous

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        • bob

          This of course assumes the evolutionary world view. The Biblical world view says the earth is only several thousand years old, probably 6,000, and that the surface we see today as well as most of the geology, was formed or drastically altered only 4,500 years ago, by the flood judgment on the earth, which was not just rain but a geological cataclysm. This limits the timeframe for man’s time on earth. Also, in the last several years, some genetic researchers have shown that at the rate of accumulation of mutations, man has less than 10,000 years left and will be increasingly and finally unfit to live and unfit to reproduce. This same evidence indicates a starting point for man, when genomic information was pure, unadulterated, and original to start with, i.e. written by God, before any decay started. There is archeological evidence, too, that man was not dumb in the past, but just as smart or smarter than we are today.

      • JoeRepublic

        A sentiment shared by anyone that has ever owned a small business.

        • Man on the inside

          Yep… but you will never convince the “occupy” group of this…

        • Anonymous

          A sentiment given to small business owners by the Jooo run IRS.

        • Anonymous

          On Ebola crisis: The MSM is at it again- feeding people bull shit. Now, Friedan, head of CDC, is comparing the Ebola crisis to the AIDS crisis. They know dern well Ebola is a hell of a lot worse than AIDS!

          Ebola has the potential to become a pandemic– as in, half the world’s population dieing off. It has the potential to become as bad as the Black Death– the plague of the 1440’s which killed off half the planet!

          AIDS is no comparison– AIDS was restricted to certain people/ under certain circumstances… Ebola is equal opportunity disease– Ebola doesn’t care if you aren’t shooting up, are gay, or promiscuous– it can kill you no matter what your sexual preference or what your hobbies are.

          According to the CDC, there will be around 1.4 million cases of Ebola by Janurary– Can you imagine the Ebola crisis 150 times worse than it is now? And the CDC said it will take a year to get this under control. A couple virologists have said that the time to get it under control was back in June– they didn’t! Now, it is unstoppable!

          To the MSM and our “Leaders”…please spare us the platitudes.. we know how bad this is!

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Here is the Cause of Death List from 2009 yr stats World Wide.

            Cause of Death / Rank / # of Deaths

            Coronary Heart Disease 1 7,253,824
            Stroke 2 6,151,154
            Influenza & Pneumonia 3 3,463,256
            Lung Disease 4 3,278,167
            Diarrhoeal diseases 5 2,464,425
            HIV/AIDS 6 1,776,270
            Lung Cancers 7 1,387,121
            Tuberculosis 8 1,341,768
            Diabetes Mellitus 9 1,255,477
            Road Traffic Accidents 10 1,208,629
            Hypertension 11 1,153,308
            Other Injuries 12 1,145,949
            Low Birth Weight 13 995,687
            Liver Disease 14 848,636
            Malaria 15 826,908
            Suicide 16 781,927
            Birth Trauma 17 779,004
            Kidney Disease 18 775,103
            Stomach Cancer 19 758,152
            Liver Cancer 20 695,200
            Colon-Rectum Cancers 21 647,014
            Alzheimers/Dementia 22 539,922
            Violence 23 535,369
            Falls 24 510,331
            Breast Cancer 25 482,362
            Congenital Anomalies 26 428,158
            Oesophagus Cancer 27 413,732
            Inflammatory/Heart 28 402,147
            Maternal Conditions 29 361,360
            Meningitis 30 340,154
            Endocrine Disorders 31 318,242
            Drownings 32 305,922
            Lymphomas 33 304,737
            Peptic Ulcer Disease 34 297,954
            Asthma 35 284,046
            Oral Cancer 36 281,471
            Cervical Cancer 37 276,939
            Prostate Cancer 38 272,155
            Pancreas Cancer 39 269,748
            Leukemia 40 266,820
            Poisonings 41 252,452
            Malnutrition 42 242,282
            Rheumatic Heart Disease 43 220,278
            Fires 44 195,223
            Pertussis 45 195,112
            Other Neoplasms 46 188,227
            War 47 181,795
            Epilepsy 48 178,161
            Bladder Cancer 49 160,317
            Measles 50 155,439
            Ovary Cancer 51 140,072
            Hepatitis B 52 128,342
            Parkinson Disease 53 109,710
            Anaemia 54 102,571
            Syphilis 55 99,873
            Tetanus 56 88,235
            Alcohol 57 79,489
            Uterin Cancer 58 77,939
            Skin Cancers 59 77,484
            Skin Disease 60 74,138
            Drug Use 61 71,476
            Hepatitis C 62 69,027
            Upper Respiratory 63 65,684
            Trypanosomiasis 64 54,289
            Prostatic Hypertrophy 65 44,315
            Schistosomiasis 66 44,057
            Rheumatoid Arthritis 67 37,670
            Schizophrenia 68 27,070
            Leishmaniasis 69 25,980
            Appendicitis 70 25,904
            Multiple Sclerosis 71 17,080
            Dengue 72 16,099
            Vitamin A Deficiency 73 15,647
            Depression 74 15,252
            Encephalitis 75 14,534
            Leprosy 76 11,716
            Chagas disease 77 9,887
            Osteoarthritis 78 8,579
            Diphtheria 79 7,686
            Otitis Media 80 4,674
            Chlamydia 81 4,373
            Iodine Deficiency 82 4,342
            Oral conditions 83 3,937
            Ascariasis 84 1,852
            Trichuriasis 85 694
            Hookworm Disease 86 231

            • Npgh

              What?!?!?!…….No al-queda or isil, isis, is or whatever the hell the ragheads are called now not on the list?!?!

              Sheesh…It appears we got worse things to worry about from that list.

            • eppe

              WWTI, where is the credit source? Oh, I forgot, you are the god of the internet, do as I say, not what I do…

                • the renegade braveheart

                  WWTI, the last time I checked, there is no copyright on any jokes of any kind. They are free to be distributed to whomever. I don’t care where Eppe gets the jokes from. He provides a valuable service to us keeping us laughing and smiling considering everything that’s going on right now. I don’t see any good reason for you to bash him, so back off.

                • Archivist

                  All new jokes are mere variations of older jokes. Jokes go back to ancient times and therefore are not covered by copyright.

                  You can’t find anyone alive who has written a completely original new joke. I read a story years ago about how jokes were originally implanted in peoples’ heads as an experiment by aliens. That was supposed to be a humorous explanation of why you can’t find the origins of any basic joke.

                  BTW, if you find a joke on the internet, it is guaranteed to be unoriginal and not written by the poster.

                  Even what you wrote above about “plants and stars,” although slightly humorous, was not original. Sound alikes and misspellings have been the subjects of jokes as long as I can remember. Just look up funny church bulletins. Example: “Thursday night: Potluck Supper – Prayer and medication will follow.”

          • Navy Vet

            Also off main topic but Ebola related, more specifically on the subject of quarantining travel out of the affected countries, from “The Hot Zone” pg 85, which I’m currently reading:

            The scene is set in 1976 where two doctors from the CDC are traveling via Land Rover to Bumba, Zaire to see if they can track down the source of the then current Ebola outbreak.

            “Occasionally they came to villages, and at each village they encountered a road block of fallen trees. Having had CENTURIES of experience with the small pox virus, the village elders had instituted their own methods for controlling the virus (Ebola), according to their perceived wisdom, which was to cut their villages off from the rest of the world, to PROTECT their people from a raging plague. It was reverse quarantine, an ancient practice in Africa…”

            So, 40 years ago, illiterate people living in small villages,in the bush in Africa, are smart enough to take measures (restricting travel) to protect themselves from a plague that kills most of them, but our modern, highly educated leaders THINK that they can control Ebola with our supposed highly developed health care system.

            These are the idiots that we elect to protect our nation.

            Not even as smart as illiterate people living in the bush in Africa.

            • TheGuy

              They don’t have a choice.

              Ever been $50k in the hole and then you’re gonna lose your job? You’ll do literally ANYTHING to make your next minimum payment. If that includes putting a bunch of people at risk, I assure you they’ll do it.

              This. THIS. Is why debt matters. This is why. Sure it don’t matter when everything’s happy and peachy. How long does that usually last?

              Because with no debt, with the surplus y’all SHOULD have, you could go into lockdown for 5 years and it would suck but it would be ok.

              Astounds me when government says “debt doesn’t matter”.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                The Government helps Banksters devious plan to bankrupt Americans and kick us all out of our homes, take our homes and property, then rent them back to us, creating an endless cycle of debt and hapless minions.

                Want to really put the hurt on banks, Stop all together everyone at the same time, stop making any debt payments to any bank. There is no way they could enforce their debt. We would bankrupt them in a few months. Just like a sit down strike, F-em. As long as we keep going along making payments, they have us by the balls.

                • Anonymous

                  They have YOU by the balls. Not me sir.

                • 9mm Son of a Bitch!

                  Just bought more ammo and clips yesterday. I’m working to pay off all my debt too. That won’t stop wannabe tyrannts in the end, when SHTF, from trying to take whats rightfully yours. So in the end, all of us are criminals – governments and rogue preppers whom defend themselves. The slaves will be TREATED LIKE CRIMINALS. So what’s the difference when SHTF? Nothing, we’ll all need to stand up for whats rightfully ours … OR be treated like criminals regardless, by criminals. I rather be a criminal prepper who ends up with something, than an innocent civil who is treated like a criminal by criminals anyday! Does that make sense? It does to me.

            • Navy Vet

              One other thing on Ebola, actually “The Hot Zone”. I highly recommend everyone read this book. You can probably get it at your local library, as it was a popular title back in the 90’s.

              If your local library doesn’t have a copy, they can get you one through your state’s inter-library loan program. The reference desk at your library handles this program.

              • Anonymous

                YEAH, I READ IT YEARS AGO, NAVY. It was a book you can’t lay down (except when too upset from reading it!) At times, I had to put it down because was so scary!!

                Stephen King said it was scariest book he ever read. And its a true story!

            • JAKE

              Ohhh,

              “ILLITERATE” is it?

              I understand those people existed for many generations, or centuries, living off the land as best they could.

              Likely, so long as the “enlightened” left them alone, and left to their methods, it seems they fared alright.

              Now enter “the enlightened” meddling in their life.

              Oh, is the continent teeming in energy and mineral resources?

              • JAKE

                Wow,

                The moderation delay placed this well after the post I intended to refer to.

                This is related to “Navy Vet” above.

                Supporting his comment “Not even as smart as illiterate people living in the bush in Africa”

                My assertion is that illiterate does not necessarily mean “STUPID”

                • Navy Vet

                  Jake … That’s why I called them illiterate as in: unable to read or write, in contrast to our supposedly well educated elected officials who can’t think past their nose.

                  I think you assumed things, from my post, that weren’t there or you don’t understand the meaning of illiterate.

                • JAKE

                  Navy Vet
                  Notice I stated that I support your assertion.

                • Navy Vet

                  Jake, but you didn’t assert “support” until your second post, where in that second post you asserted “stupid”, which was my interpretation of your first post ““ILLITERATE” is it?”

                  Both of your posts clearly tell me that you do NOT understand the definition of illiterate, even though I defined it for you and illustrated why I used that word, a common mistake.

            • AZDevilDog

              You’ed think that being born in Kenya Obumer would have picked up on that old trick. But me thinks this isn’t the big picture his handlers are after. And a spread of “Obola” will drive that final nail into the “We are in-acting martial law, NOW” that they are after.

          • Walt Kowalski

            @Anonymous….

            Yep…thing about AIDS was…if you didn’t male homosexual sex….didn’t do IV drugs or have sex with those who did….or didn’t have a blood transfusion that was infected with HIV…..your chances of getting AIDS were virtually zero.

            Ebola is an equal opportunity killer. MUCH easier to catch. Not even close in comparison.

            As I have stated MANY times here. The spread of this virus is exponential. And the result of that is, there are ever increasing odds that it will spread into areas where it has never been before. Again…the reason is because previous outbreaks occurred in rural areas where the people affected were contained. The virus literally burned itself out.

            Now…..it’s very likely that it is boarding airplanes every day.

            I heard today (not verified) that dogs were observed licking up the vomit left on the street by Eric Duncan as he was being loaded into the ambulance at his residence in Dallas. Evidently, dogs are known to be asymptomatic carriers of the Ebola virus. So…..where did the dogs go?

            I fear the genie is out of the bottle.

            I really hope I’m wrong about this.

            • Anonymous

              Yeah, people really need to look up what exponential growth looks like. One minute all seems fine, the next, Apocalypse.

            • Archivist

              On the news this weekend, they gave a number of deaths and the rate of doubling (3-4 weeks). Based on their own numbers, everyone on the planet would be dead by summer of 2016.

          • Paranoid

            Scare monger, the Plague of 1440 didn’t kill off half the planet, it Only killed 1/3 of Europe. There is no data to indicate Mog Mog even noticed it. For those few that don’t know where Mog Mog is; it was the R&R island for parts of the Pacific Fleet during WWII. Great spot; you could do anything you wanted and stay as long as you wanted. Only had 2 problems. 1. Nothing but sand 2. Under water at high tide.

      • Kulafarmer

        Thats how i feel minus the alcohol
        Cant wait for these asshole environmentalist over here to pass the GMO ban
        Im going to stop providing fresh kale to them if they care so little about the negative effect their initiative will have on so many local families i dont care so much if they get the 100#+ a week in kale they have been consuming,
        Fuck em i got a honey do list a mile long, will be nice to work on that instead of busting my hump to provide a quality food product to a bunch of assholes.

        • Kulafarmer

          1000# a week not 100#
          1000#+

        • Someperson

          GMO sucks bro. Getting angry about not being poisoned when you eat …… seems sill. Might flouride bans, chem trail bans, nuke disarmament etc also make you upset?

          • Kulafarmer

            When they kill 1000 jobs in your county and demand the local government spend millions creating a new division of government enforcement whole sapping 85 million from the local economy by their action then get back to me, till then i dont like GMOs but no way i am willing to kill our economy to prove a point

      • Anonymous

        eppe: Oh’ so good to have you back, SEG!

        • eppe

          Glad to be back, was only 12 days. I do have a hard problem to which anonymous id is which, seems to be quite a few of them out there. Pick a monicker to stick with, it would help all us old timers out there to relate who is who???
          SEG=????
          Sorry to be acyronym deficent….

          • eppe

            For example, ‘eppe’ comes from a nickname pegged to me from a neighborhood gang I grew up with. It would be cool if everyone would explain how they got thier moniker name?
            Done this before, just alot of new posters out there…

            • Faith of the fallen

              I came up with Faith of the Fallen by reading Terry Goodkind’s book. If you want a idea about socialism read the sword of truth series.

              • SolitaryMan

                I do believe my moniker is self explanatory.

              • PKLauLau

                Faith: Great book series….loved it…

                Oh, and mine is just a pet name from the hubby…
                PKLL

            • grandee

              grandee came from my first grandchild 🙂

            • Outlaw

              I’ll play

              Out = in a direction away from the inside or center

              law = a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority

            • the renegade braveheart

              Eppe, I chose the name ‘braveheart’ from the movie starring Mel Gibson by the same name. It’s based upon the true story of a Scottish patriot fighting for his country’s independence against English tyranny and oppression. His nickname was braveheart. So I adopted the name since I felt I could identify with William Wallace aka Braveheart. And NOBODY plays the underdog like Mel Gibson can. He’s also one of only a handful of GOOD people in Hollywood.

              • Meathead

                Renegade Braveheart, you mentioned Mel Gibson in the movie Braveheart. My wife and I still watch the movie DVD. Great movie. And I think Gibson got a shitty deal with all the fallout from his DUI bust. But it tells us who really runs things in Hollyweird.
                I did read a comment somewhere stating actors and movie producers are leaving the politically correct Hollywood scene. They’re still making movies and doing well.
                My handle was a random choice; it had nothing to with the Archie Bunker TV series.

                • eppe

                  Meathead, I agree with you there, when Mel did the movie on Jesus, he made millions, and asked many to invest, many did not, and he walked away showing he was correct. Did you know he was a New Yorker, his father did not agree with the Vietnam war, and moved to Australia? Then he did the first movie ‘Road Warrior’, which led to Mad Max, and then his profession bloomed?
                  ht tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max_2
                  I admire him, since in his first movie, it was a ‘b’ class movie, but was outside the box, and was a midnight movie on many theatres here in the USA. He is one cool cookie, heard he owns tons of acreage in Australia.
                  Ready down under, what are your comments on this???

                • Meathead

                  Eppe, I’m replying to your comment below. Welcome back to the forum.
                  I saw the Road Warrior right around the time it first came out. I was amazed by all the punk rockers chasing each other around in the Australian desert; thought it was a helluva movie. Wez was quite a character. Scary looking bastard. Some of the stunt driving scenes reminded me of I-15 traffic in Salt Lake County.
                  Anyway, yeah, Mel is from New York. He made some great movies.

                • the renegade braveheart

                  Meathead, that goes to show you not everyone in Hollywood has their head up their a$$. I’ve got the DVD, of course, and still watch it on occasion. That movie gives me inspiration. Kudos to the ones who have left and will leave at some point.

              • ubiquitous

                braveheart

                William Wallace….superb…

                They don’t make them like that anymore..

                Appears throughout history that those “few” who did stand up to tyranny had their heads handed to them sooner or later..and knew the consequences of their actions before hand..

                No one seems to stand up to tyranny nowadays…

                and

                if one does..

                well

                they suffer the wrath of the state and all its bureaucracy

                Enjoy the day

                possee

                • the renegade braveheart

                  Possee, I do know that when the time comes I will stand up against tyranny and the consequences be damned. As my namesake once said, “Every man dies. But not every man truly lives.”

            • ubiquitous

              ubiquitous…

              existing

              or

              being everywhere at the same time

              constantly encountered

              possee

              short for posse comitatus

              Enjoy the day…

            • Archivist

              I am the Archivist.

              I collect information and media. I have everything from 400-year-old history books to the complete set of “Wild Wild West” TV shows, including the movies. I never dispose of anything. I have original cylinder recordings, 1835 almanac disposed of by the Weather Bureau, sheet music from the late 1800s on, phonograph records from 1901 on, home movies (some from outside the family) from the 1940s on, and all the proper equipment to play all the records, tapes, and films.

              In case of total collapse, I have all the knowledge necessary for rebuilding, from carpentry and gardening all the way to nuclear physics.

              I started collecting information over 50 years ago, mainly because of the way my brain is wired. I am obsessive over a few things and have more IQ than modern employers are willing to allow someone to use on the job. That’s why I became John Galt ten years ago. I became tired of ignorant micromanagers.

          • T-town

            T-town, I live in the Toledo area. I know, not very original, but it works. Ha!

            • Warchild Dammit!

              I would say the moniker I chose is pretty obvious from all me posts,especially recent ones,that said,due to opsec is all the information I will divulge!

          • WhoWuddaThunkit

            eppe ran out of stolen jokes, but now he gots some more stolen jokes to cut n paste. All to make you think eppe is a funny man. Thieves will be butchered come shtf/

            • eppe

              Sure, ran out of jokes, you have stated that you plan to cull us all in the SHTF, or do you not remember 9-13-2014?
              Probablly drunker that a flea in the vodka bottle when you wrote that, but hey, I still respect your opine, and you should respect ours, ole great master of the universe…

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                LOL, Yeah what ever grand master cut n paste joke thief.

                • T-town

                  Eppe and WWT. You two people need to grow up! who is going to be the bigger man? It is the one who does NOT feel threatened by the other and does NOT respond to intended insults. My father taught me that one can only insult you if you take it on. Maybe the two of you should remember that.

      • Ted Kennedy

        What kind of Bacardi?

        • slingshot

          Ted Kennedy.

          That’s my boy.

          Haha!

      • Townsaver

        Sloooooooooooooooow News Day.

        I never thought I would bother, but now that food and gear and guns are handled, I actually have a NBC kit. Nuclear, Biological, Chemical. The wife has tolerated the food preps, but she thinks the NBC kit is going too far.

        Hopefully it is never needed, and one less thing to fear now that the kit is complete. Some of the top picks were:

        Unscented Bleach
        4 Mil Plastic Drop Cloths
        Tychem Suits
        18 Inch Gauntlet Gloves
        N100 Respirators
        Nitrile Gloves
        Latex Gloves
        IOSAT Pills
        Splash Guard Goggles

        So…

        I can set up a sick room to isolate myself or my kid(s).

        I can go outside in a fallout situation.

        I can dress for Halloween.

        I can run through the sprinklers spraying toxic chemicals.

        I can make a dummy decoy that is visible from very far away.

        I can frame my neighbor for planning to

        Ah the joys of prepping!

        • slingshot

          Townsaver.

          My wife used to ask, “What do you need that for?”

          Wait till you put on your gas mask in 90 degree plus temps. How your breathing will be affected. Most people who have had no training will pull it off their face in 30 minutes.

      • Mike in Va

        I am the boat owner.

      • YH

        eppe,

        Hilarious! Thank you!

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Eppe you should post the source of your cut and paste Jokes. Got anything original you made up?

        Here are a few sources of Eppe’s cut and pasted IRS Joke you posted above.
        http://www.gulfcoastfishingconnection.com/forums/forum42/thread23338.html

        http://www.pensacolafishingforum.com/f22/irs-fishing-boat-owner-323858/

        http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?290624-IRS-And-The-Fisherman

        http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=35758

        Just a few cut n Paste sources of that IRS joke. Do you have any original jokes you make up your self, or is all you got is cut and paste skills of plagiarism to earn green thumbs? How about any contributions to the subject of Mac’s article. Any prepping info you can contribute?

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          As a followup. When cutting and pasting information from one article or a joke or information, you should be also posting the link of the source. If someone Stole Mac’s Article Work and presented as their own it is Plagiarism. Mac also has to get permission to repost information from other news sources and Mac surely lists the Author’s Name as a credit to the article and the identity of the Article and source. There is enough theft going on in the world, just a heads up. Some people think eppe is funny, when it is theft and plagiarism taking credit for someone else’s joke.

          • Npgh

            @whowuddathunkwhatever…why you being the debbie downer today? What?….you don’t like to laugh? I nominate you for the plagiarism police! (eyes rolling at the idiot)

            • eppe

              WWTI is a jerk with zero life, no wonder no woman would marry him, have kids like him, and probably blow his brains out while he sleeps. I could not blame her at all.

              • WhoWuddaThunkit

                Gee eppe you wicked thinking man. You go hide for 12 days to go find your penis. Now you back to post more stolen jokes? Yeah what ever. You got busted plagiarism thieving other people jokes. You got any thing original big guy?

                • eppe

                  Actually I got tired of your bullshit, you keep trashing good people here, posting things that have been written by others without thier names included, and generally have been a blemish to the site. Please show me a place where a jokers name is attached to the joke. You cannot. You remind me of the other useless jerks who come here, bashing posters for no real reason. Are you ACID-SYBIL, finx, YMWW, and a multitude of others who just get online to trash everyone?
                  May the Sun cook your worthless butt, or may you get Ebola from someone in your hood…. But have a blessed day.

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Eppe, I am only picking on you for stealing jokes and not posting the source, nice try to group “me against everyone.” Hardly the case. There are a lot of great posters on here who actually contribute to the article or give something worthy as substance. You offer neither but stolen jokes. You sound pretty defensive cause I busted you for stealing jokes. Obviously since you have no jokes of your own, you resort to stealing other material and try to pass it off as your own. You are nothing more than a common thief. You will be dealt with by your maker or someone else during the culling. Yes thieves are on my culling list. Maybe our paths will cross.

              • Skeptic

                Hi eppe;
                I have yet to see a joke coyrighted. Someone once told me that a lot of the jokes are developed in prisons. The people incarcerated have a fair amount of time on their hands and not all of them are stupid. Any truth in that? PS I enjoy your humor. I ask an occasional question here about gen sets, battery banks, etc. and never get much response. Prepping is a hell of a lot more involved than medication, guns, and food. I want power for a couple of years with fossil fuel sources and not live under a rock. From your occasional comments about prepping I wonder if you are not a little more hands on than you let people know. What kind of power sources do these folks have? Any readers of this web site have hydro? I’d feel pretty stupid if people in the middle of the jungles of Africa and South America had power and I did not.
                Anyway, keep up the humor and don’t let the rude fucks run you off, though I don’t know if I could handle the insults either.

                • eppe

                  Thanks Skeptic, yes, you are correct on alternative power. Been researching solar, wind, hydro for years. We have much to learn on how to make electricty as we know it. Tesla invented many things, like AC power, electromagnetic power (running off the power spun by the earth) and other things like collecting lighting strikes collected in a central ‘battery’. I have done extensive research on his patents, and found that those in power do not want these FREE electricity elements to surface, hence taking away money from them. It is a shame that those in power, cannot let free thinking let us all be free from a continously be in dept in using what they have set up. I think that we all have been set up to use thier inventions to pay them money forever. I plan to get off the grid, make my own power, food, income, and life in general without the govt. If someone could come up with a way to store power, in a small device, and power a home, business, or bigger, we would put the electricity business out of business. Yes I believe we can, just making it worldwide, well that is the problem.
                  Ford made a car from cannibis, body wise, said he could grow cars. Makes sense, to do away with steel in that factor, Tesla ran a car off electricty from the Earth for 96 hours, maxxing out the speed all the way. Those in power either bought out the patents, so they would never surface, so they were in control, or wiped them off the Earth so the invention would never gain a foothold. Many people have great ideas, just those in power do not let it happen, so they can profit forever. I say kill them all, and let common sense prevail….

                • Anonymous

                  Yeah, in the days and times we desperately need to be able to laugh– doesn’t matter where the jokes come from— eppe is a blessing on this site.

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  skeptic. Unfortunately eppe is a fraud cause none of what he posts is his own material. So he himself is nothing more than a cut and paste thief. It take a pretty small man to post day after day material that is none of his own.

                  Regarding your energy, I have thought about this over and over, and have decided not to be dependent on energy, and do not freeze meat and resort to canning it. Dehydration is another method. You should consult websites that deal with energy for lasting. Even a large battery bank needs to be replace after 3 to 5 years, so what will you do after that if the grid is never restored? And even if you spend tens of thousands of dollars of resources, an EMP can crash the entire system then you are back at square one. I just suggest reduce your dependency entire on the grid. Stock up on oil lamps, go to bed at dark and get up ar first daylight.

          • Gadabout

            WWTI – lighten up and get a life

        • T-town

          WWT, Why are you so nasty to Eppe? Quite frankly, I don’t care where they come from, I am just glad he shared them. Thank you Eppe!

          • eppe

            T-Town, Thanks, I have looked for names of the original joke maker, never found any, but if I post something someone else wrote, I always give credit and include thier name if available. Always. I do wish I knew what his hard on for me entails? BTW, he has stated he would ‘cull’ all of us in a SHTF scenerio, sounds like a psyco to me. Glad he is in FLA, and I am in Jawja. And to everyone out there, great jokes from all, I hope it tourqes his butt up….

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Eppe you are such a fraud and now a liar. You never have looked up any name of the original joke maker. And you NEVER have posted one source link from where you stole it from. Why do you now lie about it? Get real. How about go back and look at all your jokes you posted and show where you posted the source link even once. Your world is crumbling.

              Yes Thieves and Liars are on my culling list. And I don’t now need to have you lie about what I say. Do you also tell your son its OK to steal other people term paper work to submit it as his own? Hope to see you turn your life around and get righteous. Your Big Guy upstairs is watching your every move.

              Eppe you said this: “he has stated he would ‘cull’ all of us in a SHTF scenerio,” That is a large flat out lie. Post the comment ID# where you claim I said that statement? You are a liar punk. Until you can prove it with the Comment ID# you are a liar too besides a thief.

              • eppe

                May see you later planners, I do not have to put up with WWTI’s abuse. It is posters like this that makes others leave this site. He has said that I was lying about his posts about culling those who have faith. Well, here it is. And it has been only 3 days…
                Since Pissed Off Granny, myself, and many others are still waiting on WhoWuddaThunkIt’s answer on where humanity started, then LIED to all of us that he posted his belief(or non belief), which is a joke. Below is a joke from somewhere. Who knows who came up with it, there is no name attached, but I am sure WWTI did not come up with it. And yes, for the first two years of being here, I posted many prepping ideas, but once you are prepped out, most just try to help others get up to speed. But since WWTI is so brilliant, walks on water, heals the sick, has all the answers to mankind, we should all bow down to his imagined GREATNESS….Now WWTI says the Sun is the master of the universe, what a dipshit. The Sun is just a star, burning out, in time will collapse, and the Earth will expire. We will expire. That is why I say there is a greater power controlling the entire universe. Our souls are worth something, YHWH says we were known to him before we were conceived. We have (soul wise) a place to reside forever. May GOD have mercy on your soul WWTI; it is the only thing that keeps on going forever.
                I will say that MOST of WWTI’s posts are cut and paste also, and his rants are detrimental (by all the red thumbs) to this site. WWTI, I do not sit around all day waiting on a new post, but I do pick a joke and set it up as a word document with my input. You seem to have a problem with those who think ahead. By the way, he has stated he would kill off most of us as per his own post here, I hope it posts correctly.

                WhoWuddaThunkIt says:
                Comment ID: 3230655
                September 23, 2014 at 4:13 am
                Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.
                Oh here we go, Swing on a star judging people using religious babble to crucify Acid. You can stuff your holy religious crap up your shute. You useless self-rightious M-fers are on my list to cull when given the chance post SHTF. That cult crap has no place in a humain society. You are all a bunch of superstitious witches.
                Poorly-rated. What do You Think? 2 12

                Would anyone like to live next door to this ‘person’? And if you did, how would you treat him? Would you invite him over for dinner and drinks? Would you bring out a Bible and try to convert him? I really wonder why he is so negative toward any one who has a higher power to believe in, even though religion has warped this world. I, myself, am looking for the true truth, but coming here and trashing everyone for what HE thinks is the truth, well, that means if I put a piece of lead thru his cranium, God would NOT hold it against me by WWTI’s thinking. WWTI seems to love to bash me for jokes, but rarely says anything to anyone else. Please read his post above again, bad spelling and all, and wonder what his real problem is. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR YOUR VIEW ON WHERE HUMANITY CAME FROM OR STARTED and not the sun is the master bullshit….
                Now the old previously posted joke…
                WhoWuddaThunkIt was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to her and said, “Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.”
                The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, “What would you want to talk about?”
                “Oh, I don’t know,” said WWTI. “How about why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?” as he smiled smugly.
                “Okay,” she said. “Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff – grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?”
                WWTI, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it and says, “Hmmm, I have no idea.” To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified to discuss God, Heaven and Hell, or life after death, when you don’t know shit?”
                And then she went back to reading her book.

                P.S. Selco posted another new post today…

                • WhoWuddathunkIt

                  eppe, BTW/ I know facts mean little to you, but the “Sun” is actually a “Planet” NOT a “Star.” What an idiot you are. The entire solar system in our universe evolves around the sun. A star is a rock in space that evolves around the sun. Know the difference.

                  BTW/ Everybody here is entitled to their opinions, If you post info or cut and paste other documented info, also post the link to the source. You never do, and try to pass jokes off as your personal work. Its your choice if you choose to be a fraud and a Joke Thief or as Wikipedia also calls a joke thief a hack. Which would you prefer, thief or hack?

                  Joke theft is the act of performing and taking credit for comic material written by another person without their consent. This is a form of plagiarism and sometimes can be copyright infringement.[citation needed]
                  A common epithet for a joke thief is “hack”, which is derived from the term, “hackneyed” (Meaning, “over used and thus cheapened, or trite”).[1]
                  Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke_theft

                  • Burt the Brit

                    Evening from the UK,

                    I haven’t been around for a while, very busy renovating my forever home. I decided to come on and have a look around at what’s been going on.

                    Well, WWTI, you have issues by the ton son. If you live in a glass house best not yo chuck rocks about. You moan and target people, imply they are stupid…yet you state repeatedly the Sun is a planet. It’s a star, just as several people have pointed out but you still ride everyone ignoring your own lack of knowledge.

                    So many new names, no Eagledove and Possee though which is a shame, they are great contributors, as were so many others that seem to have vanished.

                    Hiya Braveheart.

                    Sorry to read of you health issues Six pack, I hope whatever treatment you have decided upon is going well.

                    Is BI still reporting earthquakes? He is uncannily accurate.

                    Evening Mac, glad to see the site is still packed with opinion and debate.

                    Take Care

                • T-town

                  Don’t address him or talk about him Eppe, it only feeds the beast. The more anyone acknowledges what is said, the more it speaks.

                • Archivist

                  Evidently, WWTI was stoned all 15 years of his grammar school education and never made it to high school.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        For a MAD MAX Bug Out Bag. How to pack for this.

        This will get really basic.
        The best thing to do is get away from the biggest threat and that is the human element.

        You may want several changes of clothes.
        *Grey Man – Basic street clothes or sweat pants, tennis shoes.
        *Tactical Clothes – All Black clothes for night time or Camo for hiding during the day to blend in with the woods. Always pack hiking boots, the heavier your bug out bag the taller your boot for ankle support. Last thing you want to do is twist an ankle due to a heavy bag.

        Basics – Water- Sawyer Water filter $18 and a and 2+ liter camel back. Food, several MRE’s 3 Min and other rice n beans and power bars. Vitamins, salt tabs. Mt House min 5 packets

        A small canteen cook set with a Trianga stove and or a wood fed stove to boil water and heat up canteen cup.

        Tools- Multi- Tool, Fighting knive, fillet knife, spork, Snares 3 min, fishing kit, hammock to double as a fishing net.

        Weapons, – Besides your knives listed above your primary handgun,9 mm at least 3 extended mags and several boxes of ammo. Battle rifle, at least 8 to 10 full 30 round magazines fully loaded. 12G shorty Mossberg 500 good defense also.

        Shelter, camo tarp, 550 cord to run a ridge line and use your hammock under the tarp keep off the ground. Wool blanket, or snug sleeping bag in a plastic bag. Last thing you ever want to get wet is your sleeping bag.

        Communication, cell phones, ham radios, basic weather AM-FM Radio.

        Other items, Binoculars to look far in advance of your directional movement. Detailed paper maps of your entire county or all the way to your safe zone reflecting all back roads, trails, GPS, Solar charger, extra batteries. Eye protection Goggles clear dark for sun block. If you are lucky IR or Night vision, safer to travel at night. Ghilli suit to blend in with your surroundings. Out of sight,out of mind, out of trouble. Small shovel & 12 Sandbags, you can fill them up where you are, then empty them till you get to your next spot to bug in to. A fox hole with branches for concealment will save you over and over.

        Prepare to fight ahead of time. Lessen the threat before it becomes a threat. Meaning, catch them in a surprise ambush instead of you. Learn how to prepare your night camp sight with early warning trip wires that someone is approaching. Use Force multiplier tactics. Maybe on your first shot use your weakest gun or a sling shot. They will think that is all you got is a weak pee shooter, then when they approach in the open, break out the beast and let them have it. Tactics and trickery will get you through Mad Max.

        Anyone want to add to this list feel free, just a short basic list. Bug out bag should be all Black or camo colors, NO bright color hiking bags in Mad Max. You will appear weak and vulnerable like a liberal hiker.

        Let er’ Rip !!!

        • Night Breaker

          WWTI ,
          Wearing black at night is not smart it shows as snow white in NOD’s you may as well wear a beacon on your head. Make sure all your gear is near infrared technology compliant( NIR ) or you will glow in the dark .

          Semper Fi 8541

      • Night Breaker

        URGENT
        NOT A DRILL REPEAT URGENT NOT A DRILL

        SECOND CASE CONFIRMED EBOLA HOSPITAL WORKER DALLAS TX
        CDC brief 8:30 AM 12 OCT 2014

        READ IMPORTANT MAC PLEASE MODERATION REQUESTED

        http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/surfing-usa.html

        GOOD LUCK ALL ITS GOING DOWN HILL FROM HERE
        IT’S TIME INSTITUTE PREPARNESS PLANS

        Semper Fi 8541

        • kynase

          What makes me scratch my head was she allegedly was in full protective gear while working with Duncan. When I listened to the press conference this morning, a health care official was asked how can workers feel safe if this nurse got sick while wearing the gear. The response was “they” are confident that the safety gear works.

          This all leads me to believe that the transmission of ebola is very suspect. The spread will continue. Watch dallas closely to see the response. This could be the model as to how other cases will be handled. I’ll tell you this much, if they quarantine Dallas in any way whatsoever, I’m betting there will be mass hysteria around the US.

          • T-town

            They are sending message to fellow healthcare professionals,”protective gear isn’t going to help you, get ready”

            • PKLauLau

              T-town: First hand knowledge or did I miss that in the article?

              PKLL

        • PKLauLau

          Night: She wasn’t even on the “watch” list for the other health care workers who were taking care of patient zero. How many days was she working with other patients, at home with family (does she have children in school), out shopping, grocery store handling stuff….before she got sick. I believe that you are infectious before you show symptoms…like every other virus.

          Not to mention that they have closed the emergency room to new patients and have another quarantined already. WND has a good article on this.

          Time to batten down the hatches…

          PKLL

      • Old Timer'z

        Fishing changes people:

        “Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.”
        Maimonides

        “Give a man a welfare check, a cell phone, cash for his clunker, food stamps, section 8 housing, Medicaid, 100 weeks of unemployment checks, a 40-ounce malt liquor, needles, drugs, contraceptives, and designer Air Jordan shoes…

        and he will vote Democrat for a lifetime.”

        And finally …

        “Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you will never see him on the weekends.”

    2. oldseventy

      A fair warning to the neighbors, while you were watching your 60″ flat screen and running up and down the rd in your gas guzzeling SUVs, I was prepping and preparing, I am the Mad Max around here so do not bother to stop in and tell me your troubles, I could care less.

      • STFU

        Some people who are smart and work hard are blessed enough to have 99″ TVs & “Gas Guzzling” (WTF – are you a hippie?) SUVs, are debt free AND also prep.

        Sounds like you’re pissed that you don’t have the previously mentioned luxuries.

        That’s sad…
        Won’t you feel foolish when you find out your blessed neighbor is actually more of a survivalist than you.

        • oldseventy

          STFU, believe it or not, I can have anything in the world that I want and will not have to charge it either, so go back over and lay down by your dish.

          • EastTNCentIN

            Good for you. You seem pretty proud of yourself.

            • oldseventy

              I am, after looking back when I owed over two hundred thou, business was slow and times were tough, but hard work and patience paid off and we got things cleaned up before the last three crazy administrations got in office. all the money started going from one pocket to the other instead of from my pocket to someone elses. I was always a prepper and a pack rat, but there are some things that people need that just cost cash, canners, grain grinders, solar parts ects.to name a few

          • DocLRRP

            You should team up with KY MoM. You have all the money and she has all the answers.

            • KY Mom

              DocLRRP,

              I never said I had all the answers.

              When I find helpful links or information that might be of interest to most people reading here, I merely share it.

              • T-town

                KY, Wasn’t it a compliment? I admire your knowledge. Thank you for sharing. It is one of the reasons I come here, to learn and pick up useful information.

                • eppe

                  KY Mom, you remind me of my parents and second and third adopted moms, been around the block, and know what to look for, and stay away from. You are a wealth of knowledge, do not let anyone tell you different. As Mac has stated, we are what makes this site sucessful, and I hope you keep inputting info that helps all of us. I hope you hang around a long time, just wish others would leave forever, and you know who you are…
                  Would it be nice to have a site where there was no sniping and back biting, like this site would be, if some would just go away???

            • oldseventy

              hey doc, don’t have a dime, but I have all the necessities including silver and know how to survive the man made hell that is heading our way, I wish just half the world was in the shape we’re in, including great health for our ages.

          • Billy Hill

            :popcorn:

          • WhoWuddaThunkit

            Excellent today on the Water kayaking in the Gulf, caught 2 under size Groupers with a small silver spoon, beautiful fish, Catch and release. Lots of wildlife, and 90 deg sunshine. The water is looking good. Dolphins kicking it, pelicans.

            • eppe

              I hope the flesh eating bacteria gets you, would be a blessing to all of us if you disappeared…
              Have a blessed day…

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Eppe that is mighty Christian of you. Why are you so hateful? You say you wish there was no sniping on here and a few comments down you lash out like a blind swinging pansy. Thanks for the laugh. Yes it was a nice day out on the water. And the fish were released safely back in the water. And the fish looked very healthy no flesh eating bacteria here. You seem to have a cancer inside you eating you alive with hate. Maybe you need to pray more for forgiveness for your evil thoughts. I hope you can recover.

                • Archivist

                  Yo mama so fat,

                  the doctor diagnosed her with a flesh-eating disease
                  and gave her 87 years to live.

                  And I’m not telling you where I got that.

              • Anonymous

                Ha, ha!! Got him back, eppe, didn’t you?! (ha, ha!)

        • oldseventy

          I know my neighbors, they’re too busy trying to be the life of the party, well the party is just about over, they may last three weeks.

      • Man on the inside

        I am “LORD HUMUNGAS”…

        • Townsaver

          Just walk away…

        • Meathead

          Speaking of Humungas…I wonder what kind of pistol he has in the scenes from “Road Warrior”? It looks like a Smith and Wesson double action .44 magnum, possibly a Model 29. Same type of weapon Clint Eastwood used in the “Dirty Harry” movies?

          • Night Breaker

            Meathead ,
            Right on the money it’s a model 29 , don’t do like I did a shoot 2.5 boxes of 44 mag , ended up with tendinitis in my arms , couldn’t shoot for 3 months anything with heavy recoil.
            But it’s one hell of a hand gun , serious weapon for serious situations . Elmer Keiths masterpiece.

            ” I know what your thinking did he fire 6 shots or only five? Well to tell the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 magnum the most powerful handgun in the world ( in 1971 ) and would blow your head clean off , you’ve got to ask yourself one question , do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk.? Go ahead make my day. ”
            Harry Callahan

            Semper Fi 8541

            Semper Fi 8541

            • Meathead

              Night Breaker,
              I get a kick (no pun intended) out of watching those old Dirty Harry movies, especially the 1st one.
              1971. Cars were bigger, gas was cheaper, and people could actually afford to live in California. And Clint Eastwood had some cool side burns in the 1st Dirty Harry movie.
              And the S&W .44 magnum was the most powerful handgun on the planet. I heard decades ago that a .44mag round would penetrate a car’s engine block with it’s muzzle energy.
              Now, Taurus has the Raging Bull in .454 Casull, S&W has a .460 and .500 magnum caliber pistol.
              I’m not sure that I would want to shoot any of those hand held cannons; at least not on a regular basis.
              In my opinion, .357s and 9mms are easier to handle.

              • Meathead

                Night Breaker are you getting any updates on the situation in Ferguson, MO ? The demonstrations seem to be continuing. Things look quiet, but could be a potential SHTF flashpoint.

                • Night Breaker

                  MH ,
                  Not so much there is a lot going down main concern is this EBOLA issue , ferguson is more a local issue out of my region so not much going thru . Most likely this will simmer for a while I don’t think that situation has legs to affect different regions . On the other hand the Ebola issue has BEEN UPGRADED to watch level . Some prepositioning of assets is going on , no fEMA activation yet local or national level , the fusion center has been realitively quiet too quiet .

                  Stay awake , pay attention things can change rapidly see my urgent post above.

                  Semper Fi 8541

                • PKLauLau

                  Night: I have been watching for your posts….forgive me for a dumb question. You said that Ebola has been upgraded to “watch” level. Upgrading is not good, but what exactly does that mean in military jargon. What are the threat levels….1-5? 3 = watch…4 = ?

                  Does my question make any sense?

                  PKLL

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Watch Most of the American Population in the More Northern climates die during the first winter season when the grid goes down. If the grid is down there may not be any Gas pumped to your home either and those too are doomed. Many will be found frozen dead clinging to their Bibles The Book of False Hope. Just ask the Donner Party – Who also turned to cannibalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_Party

        • Anonymous

          I’d rather be frozen into a popcicle with God in my heart, than to stay here on earth, in ignorance!!!

          GOD IS LOVE.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Ignorance is Bliss eh?

            • Anonymous

              Yeah, ignorance of your ego is bliss, whodunit. GOD IS BLISS.

            • Archivist

              WWTI,

              If so, you must be tickled pink.

        • Cellar Spider

          @wwti

          Nah, most of us up in New England have multiple sources of heat. Plus, we’ve got something the “warmer”climates don’t……Refridgeration. 60 days grid down in New England, Minor Discomfort. Inner Cities excluded….as that holds true in all climates.

          • Warchild Dammit!

            Cellar,agree heartily!We in New England are cutting next seasons wood whenever possible if not two seasons out.Yes,those unready/without at least plans will be screwed,same with any part of the country.

            That said,Goldfish crackers on sale!This goes a long way towards helping with my preps!I love them unhealthy little suckers,not too bad a vice.

            • the renegade braveheart

              Warchild, I just recently bought some goldfish crackers for the first time. Really tasty little suckers that will become a new addition to my food supply.

              • Warchild Dammit!

                Yep,Goldfish crackers addicting little suckers!You have decent health/roof over head/food in belly you are doing better then many folks.You add a box of Goldfish crackers to the mix and you are winning the game!

                • the renegade braveheart

                  Warchild, I already have a 1-year supply of food; working on building it up to 2-years worth. The goldfish crackers will make a VERY NICE addition to my supply.

                • slingshot

                  Corned beef hash
                  Roast beef Hash
                  Sausage Hash

                  All the varieties of SPAM.

          • Ricky

            I live in Northern England and am certainly used to the cold. I simply put on more clothing and so don’t need heat. I did this last winter when my heaters broke and didn’t get them repaired for a fortnight.

            I live in the centre of a large city so in a longer term SHTF scenario – I would be unlucky though, but hopefully it wont happen.

            Take care:)

            • Burt the Brit

              Rickyyyyy

              Hello from a fellow Brit. got family in Gateshead and Newcastle as well as Sunderland.

              BB

              • Ricky

                Hello Burt the Brit

                I live in Sheffield City Centre.

                I’m from North Yorkshire originally.

                Hope you all keep prepping in the North East!!

        • Townsaver

          How did mankind ever survive winter without power and natural gas?

          No doubt some would die, but most will begin to burn things. Give the human race SOME credit.

          Also, if the Donner Party simply turned around and went back down into the valley, they would have survived. Even if they simply walked. Ego killed them, not winter.

          I’ve fished Donner Lake. I live here. I know the story.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            TownSaver- RE: Donner Party – In the end each family traded off their children to other families so they did not have to resort to eating their own offspring. A worthy history lesson of being prepared.

            • Skeptic

              WWTI
              What a bummer if your child was plump and the people you had to trade with had a skinny child. Could you possibly trade for two?

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Maybe trade the fat kid for a skinny kid and the family dog, go pound for pound when trading flesh. Maybe that where the term a Pound of flesh came from? hmmmmm….

            • Paranoid

              If brains had been firewood; the Donner party couldn’t have cooked a grain of rice. Drive in the area, see where they were, ask yourself. why they couldn’t have killed some horses, make jerky, and just walked out? The best I can figure is they prayed: “God save us” and he said: “I don’t do stupid”. On the other hand, they’d fit right in now.

      • Buck

        It sounds like we might be your neighbors. We won’t be bothering you, just like we don’t bother you now, because we are sitting on a boatload of preps too.
        Just cause we don’t act like you doesn’t mean we don’t have our stuff together
        Maybe our stuff is a little bit better than yours.
        So don’t bother to stop by and tell me your troubles!

    3. Mr Rodgers

      Yes, the author notes that ‘Government dependency’ has become a staple of our current existence, and rightly so.

      Some time ago I stumlbed across a view from a native American on the famine in Biafra; the one Bob Geldoff arranged the concert ‘We are the World’ for, Yes?

      “Man will look on this (the Famaine) and blame Nature and not himself. These people once lived in harmony with Nature, within the confines of what the natural world could porovide them and measured thier happiness by the seasons and the children they had. Then Man came and taught them how to FARM and the size of their families increased until the land could no longer sustain them. There will be famines before and after this, but none shall ever capture the attention of the World such as this one. There IS a lesson to be learned from this…”

      We live now outside the confines of what was intended, I think it shall not now be long until the “piper will be come a callin’…to PAID.”

      • calgagus

        @Mr Rogers
        You just added to my point on primitive living vs agriculture and farming.

        Watch for the piper.

        And it’s whispered that soon, if we all call the tune,
        Then the piper will lead us to reason.
        And a new day will dawn for those who stand long,
        And the forests will echo with laughter.
        *LedZepp

        • Mr Rodgers

          @ Calgahus,

          Yes Friend…soon now, very soon.

          On another note, just up at the ‘Hedge is this:

          “China’s Own “Ebola” Claims Another 1826 Cases”

          Refering to outbreaks of Dengue Fever, which apparently is now affilcting Thailenad as well as Japan. Sheesh, Mother nature is PISSED…throwing everything in her repetiore at us. Additionally, there has been a CONFIRMED case of MARBURG in Nigeria. Oh Boyo Boy…THAT is REALLY ‘not good’.

          • sixpack

            Maybe it’s NOT Mother Nature who is throwing everything available at us…Remember Ebola is PATENTED by the CDC, and don’t dismiss the idea that Marburg and Dengue Fever are not similarly “artificial”.

            • Anonymous

              In the book, “the hot zone”, when it talks about the experiments on monkeys by scientists.. I believe these were government scientists… maybe you are on to something, sixpack.

            • Mt Rodgers

              Howdy sixpack,

              Ummm…you DO have a point. However, per Michael Snyder’s blog, there are cuurrently a HORDE of pathogenic occurances happening right now, ALL-AT-ONCE, hence my comment.

              I reallly beleive that some indefineable force of Nature periodically acts to mitigate Life on this sphere…and I am now wondering if THIS isn’t the lead-in for somesuch. We’ll see soon enough, I suppose. That single cae of Marburg – just identified – in Nigeria TERRIFIES me; that particular virus make Ebola look like ‘entertainment’….a near 95% mortality rate.

              • sixpack

                You’re right Mr. R, it IS all happening at a most inopportune time, and I agree that some of this is more “natural”, but still planned for—or at least, taken advantage of.

                Pretty much the same way looters and thieves take advantage of natural disasters to steal, rob and murder innocent people…the thieves may not have caused the tornado, but they sure did take advantage of the fact that people were vulnerable and exposed because of it.

                • Mr Rodgers

                  “…, and I agree that some of this is more “natural”, but still planned for—or at least, taken advantage of.”

                  Howdy six!

                  At one point I used to beleive that the PTB were Omnescient and Omnipotent but time passed i actually began to think that there really is no ‘Great Consipracy’…not one structured and cooradinated by a any single group. Witnes that we can say some very things about the behaviour of a ‘gas of particles’… without EVER knowing what any individual particle is doing. Perhaps something similar ia occuring all around us that is actually the result – something of a ‘vector sum’ of of Greed, Stupidity, Short-sightedness and Self-Interest. I will be the firt to admit that the APPEARABCE is that some oberwheloming evil intelligence is strongly at work in the World, but we never can seem to ‘pin it down’ now can we? As well , waht if there are several such groups…all with conflicting motivations. Surely that might nearly explain the apparent arrogant stupidity of the Government and it’d minions.

                  That said, those that SUCCEED in the Wortld ‘as it is’ seem to be singularly possesed of an intrinsic, instinctual ‘opportunism’ that is very diiifcult for most ‘good folk’ to comprehend or understand on any level. Thereor “yes”, we AMy expect that those will take advantage at nearly EVERY turn…it’s thier NATURE, No?

                  I have – repeatedly – said here, before that we are dealing with ‘reptiles’ in dealing with some elements of the species. As for the rest here, take it as ‘open musing’ on ‘what is’: I am actually NOT sure WHICH case is the correct one anymore. Food for thought Friend…

            • Mike in Va

              Sixpack

              I think you are right because the government has done nothing to try to keep Ebola or any other disease from coming here or spreading.

            • Anon 1970

              How you doing? I was thinking you had surgery last week?

              • sixpack

                Yes, Anon, I posted a reply above. Thanks for asking.

                • PKLauLau

                  Six: I had a few questions for you in post at top. I didn’t realize that you had surgery already. Hysterectomy I’m assuming. Hope you are doing well.

                  PKLL

        • Kulafarmer

          Love Zep
          Going to go put on my headphones, Zep on my Iphone and work in the greenhouse!

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            This will be my Mad Max Designated Culling Music.

            Rush 2112 -/ Overture – The Temples Of Syrinx
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCj3oBHSA5M

            And as it say at the 4:30 mark, “The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth”

            • Warchild Dammit!

              Perhaps so Who,but will it then be worth inheriting?!Loved that album and tour though!

              • Kulafarmer

                Spent many many hours listening to rush.
                Good stuff

                • sixpack

                  I went to their concert in the early 80’s.

                • Anonymous

                  Rush is a fuxking idiot! Just a loud mouth stupid [email protected]!

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Yep there was some major partying back in the early 80’s and to Rush 2112. Its a wonder I am still alive today to laugh about it. lol Saw Rush like 3 times. Van Halen about 3 times. Loud!! Went to my first concert for about $7 a ticket. Pat Traver’s Band. You know – Boom Boom Out goes the lights. He plays kick ass guitar solos.

                  Here are some goof rock and roll memories for ya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEzz4QTvItA

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  I will also add this great guitar solos. Pat Travers. Good Music Rocking Video Snorting Whisky and Drinking Cocaine. This really Rocks. Turn up the volume.
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG_Vdh-WuGY

          • Mcdave

            Kulafarmer says:
            Comment ID: 3242757

            October 10, 2014 at 1:28 pm

            Love Zep
            Going to go put on my headphones, Zep on my Iphone and work in the greenhouse!

            That sounds like a pretty great life ya got there Kula.
            Good on ya.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              I never get tired of listening to Led Zeps “Stairway to Heaven.” Classic

        • PO'd Patriot

          ..And it makes me wonder….

          • Warchild Dammit!

            This is my call to arms songwise,big surprise there!

            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?
            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?

            When your back’s to the wall and your luck is your all
            Then side with whoever you may
            Seek thats which within lies waiting to begin
            The fight of your life that is everyday

            Dance with the war child, the war child, hoorah
            Dance with the war child, the war child, hoorah

            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?
            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?

            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?
            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?

            In the heart of your heart, there’s the tiniest part
            Of an urge to live to the death
            With a sword on your hip and a cry on your lips
            To strike life in the inner child’s breast

            Dance with the war child, the war child, hoorah
            Dance with the war child, the war child, hoorah

            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?
            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?

            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?
            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?

            War child, dance the days and nights away
            Sweet child, how do you do today?

            • Warchild Dammit!

              Anon,you do realize the Rush Kula referring to is the band,you know,trio from the land up North?!Really,who is the as you so eloquently put it “fucking idiot”?

              • Anonymous

                ha, ha… sorry– thought he was referring to Rush Limballs… he, he, he!

                • Anonymous

                  If you don’t believe in God then you are a fuxking idiot too, whodunit… he ,he, he!

          • Meathead

            I like the Dire Straits lyrics in “Man’s Too Strong”.
            “Re-written history, with my armies and my crooks. Invented memories, I did burn all the books”…

            Interesting lines. Who was Knopfler talking about, the Catholic Church? Or something more recent?

      • KY Mom

        Cycles and the fourth turning.

        Economic Collapse and the Debt Ceiling: The 4th Turning is Here
        http://www.blacklistednews.com/Economic_Collapse_and_the_Debt_Ceiling%3A_The_4th_Turning_is_Here/29400/0/0/0/Y/M.html

        Thom Hartmann & Neil Howe: Are we in the Fourth Turning?
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZp0-DOC7Ko

        Google, China, The NSA, And The Fourth Turning
        “The world is not sliding, but galloping into a new transnational dystopia.

        This development has not been properly recognized outside of national security circles. It has been hidden by secrecy, complexity and scale. The internet, our greatest tool of emancipation, has been transformed into the most dangerous facilitator of totalitarianism we have ever seen…”
        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-12/google-china-nsa-and-fourth-turning

        • Burt Gummer

          The Fourth Turning is a good book. I gave my brothers each a copy of the book and neither have read it. Can lead a horse to water…

      • the renegade braveheart

        Mr. Rodgers, that was the famine in ETHIPOIA beck in 1983-1984 when that country was under a communist tyranny. All of that aid eventually ended up going to the commie regime there and more people died from starvation than what was really reported at the time. Celebrities are notorious for supporting communist causes.

    4. Davol

      It will never get like Mad Max around here. We have too many Hells Angels gang members in this town who will help keep the peace.

      • oldseventy

        who is going to feed them? most gangs in the cities will steal to survive till there’s nothing left, then, they’ll parish along with the masses.

      • Winston Smith

        Yup…right up until the time that the Hells Angels do what the biker gang in Mad Max does. 1%er biker gangs should never be trusted to give a damn about keeping the peace.

    5. Winston Smith

      Awesome! I have always wanted an Australian XC Ford Falcon with a supercharger I could turn on and off with a lever on the shifter. This means that such a future may be within my grasp! Now where’s my dingo… (I hope it’s not eating another baby.)

      • Winston Smith

        On the other hand, has anyone else ever thought that “The Great Humongous” would make an awesome porn star name?

      • Man on the inside

        last of the great V8’s

    6. CorrectPrep

      The really sad thing is a lot of you actually want this to happen. Some of you can’t wait to load your guns and have a wild west/war scenario. If this does happen, very few of you will actually be prepared the way you actually need to be. Start praying for this to never happen. Get right with God and prepare your hearts. God does not care about how good you are or how many good things you’ve done. He ONLY cares about the saving relationship you have with Him and your changed heart.

      James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder.

      1 Corinthians 13:2-3 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        I think a lot of people want SHTF to happen, so they can use all their Prepping items they bought up over the last few years. How sad would be to die old age with dozens of never used up ammo cans. lol This Drip Drip Drip year after year is getting pretty lame. Bring it on!!

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Honestly we are all living in one big PONSI Scheme. Passing all the National Debt down the chain to the Grand kids. Our Nation is Bleeding and US Corporations who made Billion off our economies are running away to save some taxes.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Honestly we are all living in one big PONSI Scheme. Passing all the National Debt down the chain to the Grand kids. Our Nation is Bleeding and US Corporations who made Billion off our economies are running away to save some taxes.

        • boiled frog

          I think SHTF needs to happen. We need a societal reboot to get rid of all the assholes and psychopaths who rise to the top due to their ruthlessness and willing to crush anyone to self advance. A SHTF is needed to uproot the banker elite who are in control and holding the world by it’s balls. a real cleansing is what is needed. Not some bible quotes but real bible action in the form of divine retribution…served up warm. I could see a banker hanging from every telephone pole. A banker skewered on every fence post. Only when all the bastards are gone and dead, only then do I rest my head
          Boiled frogs

      • Ricky

        That’s absurd!

        What most preppers want is to be prepared in an SHTF.

        There’s nothing worse than having no food, water and security….. and information too – so ensure you have a radio with batteries stored up.

        Take care:)

        • Warchild Dammit!

          I will be more the happy to not have shtf scenario,would suit me just fine,just have some preps /plans if it does.The majority of preps get used anyhow i.e. food/tools including firearms/bows/fishing rods/camping gear so no loss investment there by any means,same with the clothing boots ect.I have some basic med supplies and a few emergency med items,hope I never need them,will be happy to have em collect dust.

          • sixpack

            Better to keep dusting off your preps, than an empty shelf.

            • dave in Idaho

              Sixpack…glad to see you made it through your procedure. Im “winter” servicing all my vehicles this week and painting the houses….I hate painting.

              • sixpack

                Yeah, I’ve covered my little vegetable bed with clippings, busted out the “no-slip” welcome mat and put a scooper in the rock salt bag…

            • LSB

              L

        • the renegade braveheart

          Ricky, allow me to expand on your tip and get a battery-powered shortwave radio with single-sideband [SSB] capability and of course a shitload of batteries. I have 2 Grundig SW radios with SSB capability stored away in a faraday cage [metal trash can from home depot for $25]. Radio Shack carries a few models for under $200. Or you can go to http://www.universal-radio.com. They carry a wide assortment of tabletop and portable radios to choose from. Prices will vary but I’ve had good service with them and no complaints about them. most of the smaller portables use AA batteries, BTW, so be sure to stock up on those.

          • Paranoid

            One problem with that Brave, Once TSHTF I’m forced to admit I don’t care what anyone else is doing. I try to keep up now, just to figure out what the Nut cases are up to. Once it goes down, I just LOCK AND LOAD. Then they can worry about me.

            • Winston Smith

              The problem is that if you are in a SHTF scenario, most of the time will be quite boring. If you are lucky it will always be boring. You’ll spend your days subsistence farming, hunting for small game (rats, cats and bats…yum!) and keeping your home in order. It likely won’t always be about fighting and if it is you probably won’t live that long. In any case, should you find yourself in such a situation or a long, slow collapse, you will want to know what is going on in the outside world. So, buy some kind of short wave radio. You can even get them for less than $10 on E-Bay. Put it in an ammo can lined with foam and you will have a cheap, EMP-proof way of getting information that will help you to assess your situation and adjust your actions accordingly.

              • grandee

                as Winston says:

                drudgery and subsistance living will be the norm.

                unless your WELL stocked.

                if not well stocked, plan on boredom being an enemy. bored people do stupid stuff.

              • Paranoid

                First: If It’s very bad I don’t expect to survive very long. Unless family shows up, in need, there is no chance I’ll outlive my supples. Far more useful culling out some zombies to kelp the rest of the people. If they do, after I show them some stuff, no really good reason for an old guy to stick around just eating.
                Second: As long as I have books, I have never been bored in my life. And I’ve got enough to read for close to forever.

            • the renegade braveheart

              Paranoid, I understand where you’re coming from. I should’ve added in my previous post to have the SW radio for gathering information as it likely may be the ONLY SOURCE of information once the grid and internet are lost. If we’re hit by an EMP or solar flare, it’s a safe bet that our AM and FM stations will be out of service. That leaves shortwave radio as the only source of information left. Braveheart will also be maintaining a low profile and be locked and loaded, but he also believes it’s important to have SOMETHING for information gathering so he’ll know where he stands from that point on.

            • Kulafarmer

              I like the way you think

          • Paranoid

            PS, just ate 3 cans of Pringles potato chips, 7 years old. Tasted fine, a little crumble

          • Ricky

            Thanks for expanding on my tip.

            The radio I purchased last week was an FM and AM band radio. It cost £10 (about $16) but it’s all I can afford.

            Radio Shack doesn’t exist in England.

            Take care the renegrade braveheart.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          JFK Airport – TSA is now giving health screens for incoming passengers, moving them to intake quarantine areas, taking their temperature, What a crock, and you have to also give them all your info where they can find you. I will never fly again if at all possible. The NAZI’s let this Eboli into the country to now give them the excuse to screen for this. When Ebloi took off in Africa, I would have stopped all flights from those areas, until I had a full proof method to deal with it. The toothpaste is already out of the tube. Watch, soon any place you go they will screen you like go to a shopping mall you get screened and tracked. This is madness.

    7. Barn Cat

      The divorce rate in America was never as high as the article reports. According to an article in womenshealth dot org, the divorce rate is 30.8%. 72% of people are still married to their first spouse. The other 28% includes widows and widowers besides divorced people. The reported divorce rate of 50% was based an on extrapolation of increasing divorce rate numbers following the no-fault divorce laws of the 70s. And because opponents of marriage wanted people to think marriage is very risky despite the fact that the average cohabiting couple is together for only 2 or 3 years.

      I don’t believe the crap about cycles that go on for thousands of years.

      So the guy who made those pinpoint predictions goes out on a huge limb by saying a mad max event is POSSIBLE. No, a mad max is 100% likely. The only question is when.

      • Navy Vet

        Possible? Yet he’s sure enough to put a date on it, 2015.75. For those that aren’t familiar with Armstrong’s work, he calculates dates as a percentage of 365. Thus, 273.75 days into 2015 or rounding up to 274, 01-OCT will be when things start their next downturn based on his models.

        So, if he is to be believed we’ve got 355 days til TSHTF.

        Based on what I’ve read of his work and his models, it’ll be 3.5 decades before things like the economy turn back positive.

        Personally, I hope he’s wrong. However, based on his record of past predictions and his writings and analysis of historical cycles and doing additional research on my own to try to correlate what he writes about with known historical events, I think he’s on to something.

        Just another reason, one of the many, why I prep.

        • Ricky

          Navy Vet

          I hope you agree that despite the projections made by Armstrong above, it doesn’t mean that we can delay prepping until nearer the time.

          Another SHTF scenario could happen prior to that.

          • Navy Vet

            Ricky … Been at it for seven years now and am never done.

            • Ricky

              Navy Vet

              That’s good to know!

              I just hope others don’t think it’s okay to delay prepping – the day will one day arrive.

              • Navy Vet

                Ricky … Where in any of my posts on this sub-thread did I advocate a delay in prepping until TSHTF actually arrives? Did I not write “…we’ve got 355 days til TSHTF”? Did I not also write “Just another reason, one of the many, why I prep”?

                How does any of that translate to “it’s okay to delay prepping”?

                • Ricky

                  I’m not saying you’re advocating that people should delay prepping – I’m simply saying/suggesting that some people may think it is!

                  I replied to your comment before reading the last paragraph so, because I didn’t acknowledge this doesn’t mean I don’t know you do prep. I should’ve read your comment before replying so sorry about the confusion.

                  Take care:)

    8. David

      It HAS to be just around the corner!

      Listen SHTF Plan posters, I need some help with something, and I know YOU are the kind, considerate types that CAN help me and WILL provide an answer!

      Here goes: Last night Gweneth Paltrow threw a party for Obozo so he could collect more money for his pocket. She was so enthralled she even stated she could hardly speak in his presence. Now, here’s where I need your help to figure this one out. What is she? I mean, she has the hots for a GAY guy, and the spouce is a TRANNY (Michael/Moochele), so what or who REALLY is Gweneth after? Is she gay and swings both ways, or wants to double dip, er, well, you know what I mean? Can anybody help?

      • Navy Vet

        Because she’s a celebutard actress airhead far left wing moonbat who doesn’t have a clue about how normal people live due to being born into a family that has made its living in the artsy-farsty world of LaLaLand.

        Besides, who gives a rats ass what she or any other celebutard thinks?

        • PO'd Patriot

          ^Zactly!

        • Townsaver

          You sir win the internet, today.

        • Calgagus

          Paltrow is a celebutard actress airhead far left wing moonbat who starred in Contagion. She died early in the movie. US patient zero. Loves Obola. Aint that fitting.

          • Warchild Dammit!

            While no one will get any disagreement from me on Gweneth’s poor choices/lack of common sense would be more then happy to exploit those characteristics and sleep with her,so,anyone here got here number?

            • Night Breaker

              Remember Warchild she did play a Typhoid Mary in the movie “Contagion” you might get a souvenir you don’t want!

              Semper Fi 8541

              • Warchild Dammit!

                Perhaps Night,perhaps…..That said,if we are all going to die of obola what have you might as well go out with a ,hmmm…,well….bang!I admit have a thing for trashy bleach blondes,in her defense she may not be trashy and just looks it,she is a little dim though with choices she’s making.I might not only get to spend some time with her that would make farm animals blush and chickens bark in jealousy but perhaps could even get her to go to store for me afterwards and score me some “Goldfish” crackers!Heck,one can dream anyhow!

            • the renegade braveheart

              Warchild, I might just beat you to her. I always wanted to f#$% a commie!

              • Warchild Dammit!

                Eh,got you beat Renegade!I have a friend with place a couple blocks from the strip/Rainbow Club!You will know Warchild was there when she turns on her stereo and a Tull CD playing!I spent a month out there living like a rock star,including the women and rest of lifestyle,problem was,though look it was not in a band at time,i.e. arock star.I flew back to the hills of home with one hell of a hangover!

        • boiled frog

          ‘Besides, who gives a rats ass what she or any other celebutard thinks?’
          bravo. Most of those assholes got their acting jobs from allowing rich bankers to cornhole them to get movie rolls. Its pretty common actually. just suck a lot of dick and get ass raped by rich bankers and you get to be in a movie yay!now your famous and your nullity as a human is completely ignored

      • tootiredtocareahymore

        I just saw this and it made me sick will never watch antthing of hers again !!! The whole hollywood bunch will burn in hell !!!!!

      • Jackie

        Maybe she’s just proving she’s not racist.

      • Anonymous

        David, she just converted to Judaism couple weeks ago stating she needed to discover God or in her new religion I must say god. I don’t think anyone can answer your question about what or who she is. However the sad truth is these useless characters are the one living in luxury, no 80 hours work week, no worries to pay bills or bring food to the table for their dependents (if they have any). So USA is made of such useless parasites, thieves of Wall Street, Criminal Banksters , Muslim president and a Government that is being on the payroll of Saudis and the order takers of the AIPAC ZOG.

      • rodeph golem

        money is power.

        • grandee

          for good or bad

    9. Socrates

      It’s all part of the Agenda 21 and Great Culling show, brought to you by:

      -Global Central Banksters
      -Corrupt, evil politicians
      -The Georgia Guidestones
      -Overly wealthy Rothschilds, Rockefellers and a host of others.
      -People who voted for ‘Hope&Change’
      …and a cast of millions!

      Face it, America is one of THE most heavily armed nations on Earth. When it comes down to you and someone else fighting over that can of Dinki-Di dog food, don’t think that the guns won’t come out…they will.

      And maybe it’s my old eyes playing tricks on me, but isn’t that heavyset fellow on the leftmost fork of The Humongous’s vehicle hands FREE? Looks like he is just holding his hands together from that picture. And all that times I have watched that on Blu-Ray…hmm.

      I also have SAT in and have full pictures of stunt car#17 from the MadMax2 Road Warrior movie. An awesome car, right down to the Weiand Blower. A bit covered in dust mind you, but she really goes!

      • Anonymous

        Socrates: Your listed parasitic creatures plus additional ones must be exterminated to save the humanity. Ever one of them, Every member of their families and paid / unpaid followers

    10. Mountain Trekker

      I love the idea of hunter, gatherer. And that is fine to a degree, and there are a few that can do that. But 300+ million in America and around 7 billion world wide, it’s just not feasible on a large scale. So when the SHTF don’t think that you will be able to be one of those persons that can do that. Thank God for modern farming. Trekker Out. Keep On Prepping!

      • packin'

        Agree
        although our idea of hunter gatherer might not apply after TSHTF
        meaning the Hunter isnt hunting 4 legged animals if your picking up what im putting down?

      • Calgagus

        @Mountain trekker
        Modern farming is dependency based and factory driven. Meant for large scale and labor intensive via modern equipment and high tech. Aint going to last long.
        Go simpler. Grow your food, grow your manure, save your seeds. Keep the resources small.

        Might be easiest if we start thinking of ourselves as being more primitive. We need to see ourselves as home growers w/ a subsistence lifestyle. The more we simplify the easier to get rid of things not really needed. The simpler we get now the easier to handle big shtf problems. Remember to duck when the S hits and until then practice runs and drills, eat what you grow and store, dont just prep, live it. The survivors will return to simpler ways and hunter/gather lifestyles.

    11. Anonymous

      Barn Cat: The divorce rate in the topic is specific to humans only and not human and cats in your case. Second….you already consume cats so you are correct as far as the mad max scenario to be 100%.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        You don’t need to be married to have kids. Marriage is just one more scam “Fabricated Religion”, “Regulated by Contract,” and “Financial Fleeced Government and Lawyers”, when it doesn’t work out.

        Animals in the wild don’t need any contract to have sex. They just come get some, “Dirty deeds and it’s done dirt cheap. AC/DC We all just need to get back to nature as it was naturally designed in the beginning. Man has really screwed things up here.

        • Anonymous

          might have known that comment came from you, whodunit… ha, ha!

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Yeah, I tell it like it is. No PC BS Here.
            Thanks for the compliment Anon.

            • Anonymous

              IT WASN’T A COMPLIMENT…

              • eppe

                Just remember WWTI, per the Bible, every women you have had sex with is your wife, and you WILL be accountable for your actions. Have a blessed day…

                • Charley Waite

                  Uh Oh…..

                • the renegade braveheart

                  Eppe, it pisses me off to see WWTI bashing you like that but I held my tongue since you were giving a damn good accounting of yourself. I’ve never heard of a copyright on any jokes of any kind. I don’t care where you get the jokes from. Just keep them coming and I’ll keep enjoying them and laughing. Your humor helps us more than you know.

                • eppe

                  Thanks Brave, I often wonder where WWTI gets his forked up info, but who knows, he is on a differnt wavelength to hook into, but we cannot judge, only YHWH can judge.
                  But since he has no belief, well what can one say???

    12. Anonymous

      The ZOG owned SWAT/Police forces already look and dress like the top picture.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Good thing eppe promised us he would only post one Joke per article. But when a person uses jokes as their signature reason to be on a site and contributes not much of anything else, then gets busted for plagiarism by cut and pasting stolen jokes that wasn’t theirs, it pretty much diminishes them down to a mushroom. “Eppe Cap mushroom.” Cute Lil’ thing.

        • Anonymous

          Go fuck yourself, whowuddathoughtit! Its none of your business what eppe does–he CONTRIBUTES to the site– unlike you!

        • eppe

          WWTI, you are a legend in your own mind, why don’t you just die and go away? Oh, I forgot, you believe in the Sun, maybe get sunburned and go away. Or eat a bunch of shrooms and trip out to the great beyond, but that would be a blessing to all of us. Or better yet, just fuck off and leave us real preppers to get ready for SHTF scenerio, and give it up???
          Are you too dense to realize you are just full of shit?

    13. Old Guy

      My give a damm has been broke for quite some time. Ill only take care of those who im responsible for.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        In MAD MAX- Take out the Debt Holders and the Debt is wiped off the books.

        • Winston Smith

          Actually, that would be the premise behind “Fight Club”.

      • ready down under

        I’m with you Old Guy – I have 2 kids and one grandkid. It will the me and them first, second, third and fourth. I may GIVE something to others but anyone who tries to TAKE will be in for a rude surprise!

        Aussie

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Drinking tonight Old Man? lol Now where did I put my car keys, hick hick…. Going to the liquor store for mores vodkas. My bests friends..

        • eppe

          WWTI, you are too stupid to see sarcasm? Oh, I forgot, you are a drunkard too. Most people collect thier drinking material early, then they need not drive? Or are you just being an asshole, which seems to be your vice. Why don’t you just go away, and let the responible posters be?
          Oh, I forgot, you worship the Sun, what a dipshit.
          Bless you anyways….

    14. Old Guy

      LITTLE JOHNNY STRIKES AGAIN

      The teacher asked the class to use the word ‘fascinate’ in a sentence.

      Molly put up her hand and said, ‘My family went to my granddad’s farm, and we all saw his pet sheep. It was fascinating.’

      The teacher said, ‘That was good, but I wanted you to use the word ‘fascinate, not fascinating’.

      Sally raised her hand. She said, ‘My family went to see Rock City and I was ‘fascinated.’ The teacher said, ‘Well, that was good Sally, but I wanted you to use the word ‘fascinate.’

      Little Johnny raised his hand. The teacher hesitated because she had been burned by Little Johnny before.

      She finally decided there was no way he could damage the word ‘fascinate’, so she called on him.

      Johnny said, ‘My aunt Gina has a sweater with ten buttons, but her tits are so big she can only fasten eight.’

      The teacher sat down and cried.

      • Warchild Dammit!

        I am really taking a liking to Johnny!

      • Burt Gummer

        I thought ol’ Johnny was going to tell a story about bunnies ‘fascinating’ like mad.

      • the renegade braveheart

        Johnny sounds real cool.

    15. WhoWuddaThunkIt

      It will be pretty exciting times ahead during Mad Max, and the Great Culling of the Useless Eaters and Space Wasters.

      All I can say is, stock up heavy on lots and lots of ammo. No worry I won’t get too greedy, I’ll leave some targets for you all, to blast away at as well.

      Here is a Short List:
      Stupid People
      Ugly People
      Useless Eaters
      Space Wasters
      Sickly Transmitter People
      Drug Addicts
      Thieves
      Bankers
      Lying Politicians
      Anybody in a Uniform harming people for no reason.
      Bandits
      Gangs with Tattoos
      Hoodies

      We can spare the Religious people, somebody needs to bury the dead.

      You get the point.

      • Mountain Trekker

        This brought to mind the Battle at Gettysburg. Hard to imagine how they handled all the dead from that 3 or 4 day battle, where over 50,000 men were killed. They didn’t have heavy equipment, and this was right in the heat of Summer. Must of been a nightmare, not only for those that were in the battle but for those that had to contend with the aftermath. Trekker Out. Sad Time In History!

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Well burying the dead at Gettyburg, was a race with flies and maggots. Who ever got to them first. And if you read Civil War history a medical treatment for the wounded was to actually put maggots into the wounds to eat the dead flesh to prevent gangrene. Interesting huh? Look that up

          – Maggot Therapy.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggot_therapy
          Maggot therapy is also known as maggot debridement therapy (MDT), larval therapy, larva therapy, larvae therapy, biodebridement or biosurgery. It is a type of biotherapy involving the introduction of live, disinfected maggots (fly larvae) into the non-healing skin and soft tissue wound(s) of a human or animal for the purpose of cleaning out the necrotic (dead) tissue within a wound (debridement) and disinfection. It was long believed that the debridement was selective on necrotic tissue, but new literature has questioned that belief.[1] A recent clinical study in France showed non-selectivity of maggot action as wound surface increased over treatment.[2]

          • sixpack

            That just means you have to keep an eye on them and remove them when the dead stuff is gone.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Six pack, When the maggots are done eating they will turn into flies and fly away. lol

              • sixpack

                IMO, maggots are exactly like politicians — you can never trust THEM to decide when they’ve had enough.

      • ready down under

        WhoWuddaThunkIt – You better hope another prepper doesn’t think you are ugly!

        Aussie

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Yes I am ugly as they come. I mean the really ugly ones. lol

      • Burt Gummer

        You forgot telemarketers.

        • Eagledove

          Bankers

        • Eagledove

          Ooops.. I missed the bankers.

      • Anonymous

        Here is my list: people driving towing trucks (in the old days, horse thieves were hung and cars have replaced horses– they are essential for surviving modern life– NO ONE has the right to take someone’s car!!

        And the bankers, etc too…

      • boiled frog

        put bankers at top and ill give u anothr green thumb

    16. Mr Rodgers

      “Think THRICE…only THEN act.”

      The alert awakened mind is the most formidable tool one possees…but what contitute the details of ‘Thinking’?, what chatacteristics are a part of mentation – broadly? The worthys at Harbard have lately dwelt on that and there answer is up at Business Insider now, under an article titled as,

      “Harvard Says The Best Thinkers Have These 7 ‘Thinking Dispositions’

      There is NO adversary that one will ever face that is more fearsome than one that THINKS…a worthy read in my estimation; how do YOU rate in these area’s? A bit of introspection is – from time to time – a good thing, No?

    17. bite me

      No matter where you go there you are

      • Mountain Trekker

        BRILLIANT, Absolutely Brilliant. I think where I’m gonna be. is out doing a little Hunter Gathering. Hope a Griz don’t “bite me” Trekker Out

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Yep there is no better place then here. Or as the Italians from New Jersey would say, “Who’s better than us.” lol

    18. WARFACE

      Well if the guy is so accurate, why won’t he say when its gonna happen? I want a date and time so I can be home. Im starting to think these collapse stories are bogus (sarcasm off ).

      • Navy Vet

        He did. See my post post, below Barncat’s post, above.

    19. DC

      Off Topic. I was outside with my two year old and heard what I thought was a small plane looked up and in the distance it looked like one of those hang glider things with a engine as it got closer I realized that it was a drone.. I got a pic with it on my cell is there a way to post it here

      • KY Mom

        DC,

        Email the picture to Mac.

        • DC

          Where do I send it I don’t know his email. I’m computer elligitament… Lol

          • DC

            illiterate. Lol

            • Mt Rodgers

              S’OK…happens to us all!!! 🙂

              • Mr Rodgers

                Good Evening Everyone,

                On the seismic note, there is continued activity on the Antarctic/South American rise which is proximally , identifiably, the result of aftershocks. That said, a new region has begun manifesting activity, one which I BELIVE merits some concern. Previously, BI (our EXPERT-in-Residence) made mention of a particualr area that was of concern to him relative to the New Madrid fault zone, that being that section of the Atlantic Ridge which lies just along a East/West line drawn beteween the UK and Labrador (if memory serves me here).

                We are all aware – at this point – that Bardabunga has been active continuously for several weeks now and as such I think we are now about to see the broader result of that stress/strain manifesting itself in the plate tectonics all around that point…and more broadly as well. IF anyone here can directly remember EXACTLY WHAT BI said with respect to THAT region (I do not have the bandwidth to dig through the archives here!) I would be pleased to see it posted here. Thanks apriori!

                The Solar thing is -IMHO – proceeding to ‘End of cycle’ directly at this time; all current indications therefrom are consistent with that assesment. However, I will caution everyone here that THAT assesment appiles IF and ONLY IF we do not hereafter see any extremely energetic GRB (Gamma Ray Burst) activity. As I have mentioned here before – and quite outside the current purvue of formal Science – THOSE clearly seem to upset the Solar balance rather directly and immediately. As well, we usually have apparent effects on the siesmic activity we witness here, additionally.

                While I’m here i would like to bring up something else. What here follows is the precursor to something I wish to place out ‘in the open’ at a slightly later point…in sum, it is too much to put forth in one sitting/one read. That said, here goes,

                Were it the case that any significant nuclear exchange occured between the superpowers (multiple thousand Strategic Nuclear devices exchanged) OR any ultra-high magnitude ‘extra-Solar’ event lead to the dellivery of extreme amounts of high energy X-ray and/or Gamma radiation impinging on the upper atmospehere we would definitely see – thereafter – the onset of the classic ‘Nuclear Winter’ long postualted as a resultant therefrom.

                Following any such event, global temperatures would drop significantly (several degree’s celcius). Initally, that drop would not seem to be extraordinary…but it would get slowly worse as time passed. Most plant life would be affected (crops especially!)….but that is far from being all that would happen, unfortunately.

                The incidence of extraordinary amounts of energy in those spectra on the highest reaches of the atmosphere would nearly instantly damage the ozone layer long-term, thus allowing for excess amounts of “hard UV” (UV-B) to reach the terrestrial surface for a a period of some few years thereafter(perhaps a decade). Animal life would be severely impacted, though on balance the plant life here likely would not be adversely affected by that environment. However, there is another physical phenomena which would occur concurrently during anysuch event whose effects would be far more serious…. and extremely so.

                Specifically, such an event would act to produce immense quantities of NOX (compounds of nitrogen)) which thereafter would percolate through rain to ground level as a ‘Nitric acid soup’. I’m sure that everyone here is passably familiar with ‘Acid Rain’ as the media has portrayed that over the last several years, Yes? This event would be FAR worse than anything we have previously aeen in that venue; most of the acid rain previously studied came as a consequence of compounds of Sulphur. OTOH, Nitric acid is uniquely competent – and desturctive – to disrupt the chemistry of carbon-based life. Pointedly, THAT is HOW your own immune system actually detroys foregn matter/invaders within your body; Nitric oxide (radical, NOT Nitrous oxide!…ie, ‘laughing gas’) is secreted by your immune cells when they adhere to the surface of anything foreign and sunsequently ruptures most any chemical bond (there are exceptions, Asbestos, for example) it comes into contact with.

                There MAY have been – at least ONE – incident where this occured in the far past. Some half-billion years ago there occured the ‘Silurian-Ordovician Extinction’, during which almost all land-based (and most shallow-dwelling marine) life was summarily extinguished in the ‘blink of an eye’, geologically speaking. Some here are familair with the ‘trilobytes’ of that age…yes? THAT was the extinction which I here mention.

                It is thought that one poossible explanation for this event lies in the astronomical sphere…definitely ‘extra-Solar’. Specifically, were it the case that a “Hyper-Nova” were to occur anywhere within – say roughly – 8-10 thouand light-years of Earth then the resultant wave of ultra-high energy particles (photons) striking the upper atmosphere would likely be near or beyond ELE-levels. To this day we cannot identify WHERE the possible origin of that lay. There has lately come new knowledge of HOW ‘Hyper-Nova’s’ occur and what is now known is that those are capable of emitting – truly – incomprehensible amounts of energy (at the instant that they manifest) in two extremely narrow, coherent ‘beams’ extending outward from the stellar rotation axis’s. In that case those might WELL be able to ‘reach out’ VAST distances…many ten’s of thousands of light years…or more, to sterilize life on a living planet.

                Before closing here for the night, allow me to give you a bit of context here by which to assess what is involved in such an event. Our sun -Sol – is a main sequence, relatively small star – as such go. From when it began first ‘burning’ some 4 Billion years ago, it will YET burn another 6 Billion years before expending it’s complement of nuclear fuel, settling down at the end to become a ‘White dwarf’ after previously having become a ‘Red Giant’ temporariliy some few Billion years hence. ALL the energy emitted by our sun, in it’s ENTIRE 10 Billion year life-span would be emitted by a single ‘Hyper-Nova’…in only a matter of HOURS, Dwell on that for a bit…more to follow later, and ‘Yes’ I AM worried about this…

                Adios Muchacho’s

                • Mr Rodgers

                  OOPS…I did NOT intend to PLACE this HERE…Apologies.

                • Night Breaker

                  Mr Rodgers ,
                  Just what we need nuclear nitric acid rain ! The extra solar event didn’t happen to be Eta Carina?
                  That could be bad real bad, gamma radiation then ozone depletion , no prep for this . Just sit back and watch the whole sky aurora .

                  Semper Fi 8541

                • Gopher

                  I could be mistaken, but I think 26 degrees N on the mid-atlantic ridge was the trigger for the New Madrid.

                • Mr Rodgers

                  Howdy Guys (and Gals),

                  The comment blocka below are ‘greyed’, so here I will repond…

                  Firstly, THANK YOU GOPHER! My net access exist, but is radically slower than what once I had. Truth be told it is often difficult to even acces the site adequately (at speed). Hmmm, I will have to think on that info for a bit….I’ll get back with everyone a bit later on that.

                  @ Night Breaker,

                  Howdy Friend,

                  Your surmise is eerily ‘accurate’…look up the ‘La Plata Observatory’ in South America, go there. READ the first line in the site log, then scroll down to the bottom of the page and LOOK at the most recent updates to the measured magnitude (visual/visible mag): the graph there..

                  In the 1800’s EC evinced an odd behaviour, one we knmow little about, specifically it duplicated a ‘Super-Nova imposter’ event. We KNOW of only one other such…and in relatibely short time thereafter it detonated in FULL. At Wiki look up LBV, ‘”Super Nova Imposter’ and look up Eta Carinae as well (for it’s specifics). Pay close attention to the declination (that is measured from the Solar baseline,ie, the plane of the ecliptic) that would anihilate the SOUTHERN Hemisphere were it to occur; think here an exposure of 5-11 thousand RAD at ground level…BUT as it is nearly ‘axial’ (mostly) that would not be the total destructionm, ie, an ELE as would occur if that were at a much smaller inclination/declination. I WILL post through on this as I can collate and assemble an acceptably cogent missive.

                  I am somewhat amazed that you intuited the auroral manifestation that would follow-on; GOOD THinking. Now, want to hear something REALLY “eery”? Look up ‘Stalking Wolf’s Prophecy’ online….how the HELL does an early 20th century Shaman EXACTLY describe what would happen if a H-N occured, specifically, the third component of that, the ‘Night of the Bleeding Stars; THAT is what is making the hair ‘stand up on my neck’ lately as lately it has been determined – exactly – WHY ‘RED Aurora’s occur. More to follow on that as well…later. Lastly, here, READ the entire piece by Stalking Wolf, specifically I am refering to the ‘Children of the Earth”, and what he SAYS about those.

                  Adios Muchacho! Andele, ANDELE!!!!

                • boc

                  Hello Mr Rodgers…

                  “It is thought that one poossible explanation for this event lies in the astronomical sphere…definitely ‘extra-Solar’. Specifically, were it the case that a “Hyper-Nova” were to occur anywhere within – say roughly – 8-10 thouand light-years of Earth then the resultant wave of ultra-high energy particles (photons) striking the upper atmosphere would likely be near or beyond ELE-levels. To this day we cannot identify WHERE the possible origin of that lay. There has lately come new knowledge of HOW ‘Hyper-Nova’s’ occur and what is now known is that those are capable of emitting – truly – incomprehensible amounts of energy (at the instant that they manifest) in two extremely narrow, coherent ‘beams’ extending outward from the stellar rotation axis’s. In that case those might WELL be able to ‘reach out’ VAST distances…many ten’s of thousands of light years…or more, to sterilize life on a living planet.”

                  Does this paragraph refer to Eta Carinae?

                  Thank you

                • boc

                  Sorry Mr. Rodgers-you answered my question in another post!

                • Anonymous

                  I copied this from BI. Wish I would have copied more now!

                  . What I am watching for the New Madrid is for a large amount of movement on the Mid Atlantic Ridge between 14 and 20 degrees north, AND/OR some large earthquake down on the Caribbean plate like Venezuela was hit by a 8+ back in 1812. Central San Andreas was also hit in 1812. These are not coincidences, they are interlinked

                • Night Breaker

                  Mr rodgers checked the site log OMG see my post lower in the site ,
                  Stalking wolf s prophecy I am familiar with it funny you mention that I know Tom Brown personally and live not far from him took a few of his courses many years ago when I was in secondary school Never thought about the red sky being that of excited nitrogen at high altitude in his prophesy.
                  Very eerie .
                  It’s almost I am where I am supposed to be . Humbling and frightening at the same time.
                  This article is going long could you reply in the next article ? Seems like things may get rather “sporty ” in the near future. ele may come to visit us on multiple levels , I am reminded of Michael Crichtons Jurassic park ” because the history of evolution is that life escapes all barriers , life breaks free . Life expands to new territories . Painfully perhaps even dangerously . But life finds a way” ” Everthing looks different on the other side when the paradigm shifts ”

                  Semper Fi 8541

            • DC

              I just emailed it to him thanks. I pretty sure that’s what it was. Either that or aliens

              • DC

                Maybe he can put it up somehow

          • Mountain Trekker

            DC I’d like to know the answer to your question too. I’ve emailed him by going to the bottom of this column where it says (contact us)but I’ve never got a response. The only thing I did was give him my real name and email. Trekker Out.

      • Anonymous

        PROBABLY SPYING ON YOU, DC…

    20. Satori

      the CDC has made a few changes you might wanna read up on

      Case Definition for Ebola Virus Disease (EVD)

      http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/case-definition.html

      listed as “low” risk exposure

      “Other close contact with EVD patients in health care facilities or community settings. Close contact is defined as
      being within approximately 3 feet (1 meter) of an EVD patient or within the patient’s room or care area for a prolonged period of time”

      ya read that right “IN THE SAME ROOM”

      they call that low risk
      irrelevant to me in this case risk is risk
      the disease has a 70-90% fatality rate
      do you wanna die because you shook someome’s hand ???

      hmmm
      USED to be “close contact”
      now
      “having direct brief contact (e.g., shaking hands)

      technically speaking still not air borne
      when you go by the strict medical definition of the word

      but “in the same room” ?

      DAMN !!!

    21. Socrates

      Wow. I HATE being right…almost all of the time.
      Why can’t I get the lottery numbers right? Or catch that 80%sale just as they post it? Oh well. Read and heed:

      Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspended Indefinitely
      (from ZeroHedge site)

      We warned a week ago of the various possibilities surrounding an Ebola outbreak in America, and today we get some degree of confirmation of a medical-based martial-law coming to the US. Governor Dan Malloy has declared a Public Health Emergency in Connecticut, authorizing the “isolation of any individual reasonably believed to have been exposed to the Ebola virus.”

      Simply put, as we noted previously, the State of Public Health Emergency allows bureaucrats to detain and force-vaccinate people without due process – despite not one single case being found in CT. If there is a major Ebola pandemic in America, all of the liberties and the freedoms that you currently enjoy would be gone. The state of public health emergency will remain in effect indefinitely until lifted by the governor.

      • Nopittypartyhere

        Asshole Malloy is trying to get reelected. He’s done not one positive thing, and spends his campaign bashing the other guy. He’s a dickhead. Sorry.

    22. Jim in Va.

      We have a year folks….time to finish up your preps.

    23. SoapDish

      Just one stone throw away it seems, until all that most call normal unravels?

      Have to keep working on adding to the survival cache one day at a time. Just don’t dwell on the what if’s, but know what just might happen at the flick of a switch.

    24. TheGuy

      While I’m not opposed to the analysis of government, I find the upholding of private enterprise as entirely naïve.

      If private enterprise did it’s thing to the fullest extent it would like to, what you’d have is a bunch of rich white guys living in China, selling to China, with a metric boatload of Chinese slave workers.

      Business inside the US would = 0. Like they’d even care, either.

    25. Anonymous

      In a Mad Max Scenario which is better?

      Thumbs up: AR15

      Thumbs DownL AK47

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        AR-15 Positives-American – more accurate, lighter ammo and bullet can travel farther, better weapons sights and rails – Negatives- More cleaning.

        AK47 – Positives: Cheaper Ammo, work horse, not much cleaning- Negatives: Less accurate, heavier Ammo, Un-American.

        • Warchild Dammit!

          Who,how is the AK un American?Plenty made right here in America,as for rails ect.you can mod out the AK any way you want or leave it as a wooden stocked warhorse,have em both,love em both.

        • Mieszko I

          Really ?? You’re going to judge a weapon’s quality, on whether its American or not ? Sounds pretty childish to me.

        • Paranoid

          Depends on ammo supply, more than gun. Without ammo the AK is a better club. Both waste ammo and are less dangerous than one guy with a good single shot rifle that just wants you dead. My dad was a weapons instructor during WWII. He commented, that in a city or US woodland give him a 100 good men with “O6 or M1 against a 100 with M-16 and he’d have 97 guys with both shortly.

        • Winston Smith

          It’s a gun. Guns are machines and as such have no soul and no ideology. Thus, an AK has the ideology of the individual that wields it. If you have one, then it is as American as you are. Private gun ownership is a distinctly American thing and as such owning an AK makes you very American culturally. As to which I prefer, it depends on the situation and which has an advantage. Not knowing what I am to face ahead of time I would take the AK because of it’s simplicity and ability to deal with little to no maintenance better than an AR. However, if I were facing government forces then the AR would be better because of the probability of finding ammo. Then again, in that scenario you can always use your AK to get an AR by relieving it’s former user of his/her life and gun. (I am not condoning killing here, just stating the obvious.)

          As for me, well, I am of Russian ancestry so you can kinda guess what I favor. Anyone got an old shovel? I think I need to make a new receiver…

        • PO'd Patriot

          I’m pretty much torn on which I like better. I prefer 30 cal anyway. Mission drives equipment. There is no jack of all trades gun. Some will come closer than others but still not quite there.

          • the renegade braveheart

            PO’d Patriot, do you mean .30 Carbine? If so, I have a M1 Carbine. Sweet shooting weapon and doesn’t need near as much maintenance as an AR. if Ars had been built the same as AKs I would’ve bought one way back when, but I’ll stick with my M1 Carbine.

            • Old guy

              Ive owned a couple Mi 30 cal carbines. Sold them to collectors. those 30 cal would easily stop a Jap in their tracks. However a german hopped up on meth would keep on coming. so they went to the M1 Garand 30.06 in the European theatre.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          I would also add that an AK47 is cheaper to buy than an AR-15. I think I have the best of both worlds, the Swiss designed the Sig Sauer 5.56 SWAT model, full gas piston like an AK, but the caliber of a AR 5.56 1:7 Twist, and uses standard AR15 Magazines. Folding stock. Its heavier than the regular AR, but a heavy duty work horse, very accurate, adjustable gas tube pressure switch to over ride dirt and grime to keep on shooting. Eats Any Ammo like maggots on dead flesh. Sig also makes a similar .308 -on my wish list.

      • Stewpedaso

        crossbow…ammo grows in nature

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Stew- I wold totally agree with you. The Crossbow is a great tool. On my wish list as well. Buy at least a few hundred bolts. Silent slice and dice.

          • Stewpedaso

            I have a Man Kung 150 lbs draw very basic crossbow, put a bolt straight through a deer with it at 20 yards. Takes a 16 inch bolt and if you can find hard wood you can make some very heavy duty bolts from it. Got it cheap too.

      • WARFACE

        I’d take an AK over an AR in a SHTF scenario. An AK is not as accurate as an AR but its way more reliable and can take a Hell of alot more punishment. I love my ARs but have an AK all set up for down and dirty in the street fighting. I know this is an old story but I thought I would start some shit…hehehehehehe.

        • Warchild Dammit!

          I vote for both thumbs up,might as well,have em both!

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Warface- There is no right answer. Both guns have won wars and lost wars.

        • the renegade braveheart

          Warface, when the balloon goes up and UN troops start appearing on the streets, it’s a safe bet that a HUGE percentage of those foreigners will be equipped with AKs. once the hot lead starts flying there will be weapons, ammo and other gear laying around for the taking. I’ll grab an AK and all the extra mags, ammo, etc. that I can carry. The AK can be taken through sand, mud, and water and STILL fire.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Renegade, No doubt in SHTF there will be plenty AK’s on the streets free for the taking, from those who will no longer need them. lol If you want them bad enough.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              I will also add for Home defense, like for a bed side gun, is to have “a gun length shorter than your bedroom hallway is wide. You don’t want some long shotgun that you can’t turn around with in a narrow hallway. Thus look into the Pistol Grip Mossberg 500. Short and sweet and still packs the shotgun blast. There are shotgun rifle slugs that pack 2000 Ft per second, vs a 900 to 1100 ft per second for a .45 Cal round. A 9mm is about 1300 Fps.

              Anybody who thinks their 4-1/2 ft long Mossen Nagant for a bedside gun is practical is Nuts. Try turning around in your hallway with that rifle. lol

              • Warchild Dammit!

                Mosin practical for in home,perhaps not.That said,all you have,tis priceless!

                On a side note,my buddy found in garage of a job and allowed to have a 1940 Terni rifle,6.5X52,exact same style rifle that killed JFK.Has a weird built in box magazine that holds a magazine that is open excepting sides and ends.The numbers including stock all seem to match and on first visual inspection looks good,had no magazines but many available for about 10 a piece,ammo,have yet to look into that,still,a interesting find.

              • Old guy

                In close range there is nothing more devastating than a 12 guage loaded with buckshot. However that 7.62×54 with steel ammo will penetrate any body armor. shoot through a car. bring down a helicopter ect. its a good long range gun. I have both a Mossberg 12 guage and a 54. also carry a 44 Blackhawk. Everything I own is a wheel gun pump lever action or bolt action. I don’t want any ammo wasting semi auto.

              • Mike in Va

                I have a Kel Tec KSG. It works great.

      • SoapDish

        I prefer to reach out an touch from a distance with a M82A1.

        • robert paulson

          Kinda like my sig 716

      • Overwatch

        Given that I was a weapons instructor in the infantry (Army), I prefer the AR-15/ M-16. Muscle memory would just work for me in a stressful situation. I do concede, however, that AK’s are the more reliable in terms of extremely bad conditions. It’s also better to give to inexperienced troops who are either guerrillas or swarming motorized infantry,

        • Night Breaker

          Overwatch ,
          What’s your opinion on the M1A and PTR91 ( HK91/G3 clone) as a battle rifle with a little more reach than the 5.56 platform. I am familiar with the M16 A2 ( with ACOG) was trained on one in the service ( USMC) and for CQB and Stress shooting I agree muscle memory has the edge they (m16 platform ) become almost an extension of oneself. Personally I feel with 62 grain penetrator rounds they can get hits at least out to 500 yards maximum 90% of the time ( I’ve done it on the square range in combat not so much ) . 7.62×51 has greater penetrating power and greater reach ( non MOUT AO use) ) . works better on vehicles , used a M40 A1 with an Unertl 10x mildot scope in my later carrier .
          Guess its down to,your AO what you prefer as your main battle rifle ( MBR)

          Semper Fi 8541

          • Overwatch

            NB, I do like the 7.62x 51 NATO in either of those rifles. Here in Mass., distance isn’t much of a concern, although heft matters in any infantry situation. Have you considered the regular old FN SLR? The Brits loved them, they’re relatively light, fared well in N. Ireland and the Falklands. Ammo compatibility is huge factor to consider which also steers me to AR series. All that said, aren’t M1 a’s just the coolest friggin things? That’s gotta mean something .

            Semper Fi Marine

    26. Gadabout

      Never thought we’d have a year! Not if Ebola takes off.

      Off topic, but I know we all miss Be informed so I want to tell you where you can get your daily fix of earthquakes and solar storms. Go to YouTube and search for suspicious observers. His name is Ben and he’s on a cross country tour now in his mobile observatory (a class A motor home). I think he sold his house in Cincinnatti to get it. Usually posts by 6:30EST am every day. I asked Be informed once if he was the suspicious observer and he said he wasn’t.
      I also enjoy Scott at Hyperreport, though he doesn’t post every day.

    27. Stewpedaso

      Did I miss the prediction? I read the whole thing and didn’t see the time frame. Did I read it wrong? I got the decades of housing going down hill but I didn’t see a collapse prediction. Pretty sure he said that a “Mad Max” situation was “possible” not inevitable. Just sayin I read a whole list of past predictions but I’m not seeing the next one in this article. Maybe its like Nostrodumass’ Quatrains. Only postdictable.

      • dudedudedude

        Agreed. Would love to see the data. That social profiling is useful; but, there must be data on ability to print money, debt obligations, growth rate of welfare class, industrialization of other countries, decay of USA, state, county, city, and hoa governments. Population trends. etc.

      • SoapDish

        I do believe he has the time frame around next October 2015 when a complete, change in TWAWKI??

    28. AndyNY

      How the heck does the Dow hit 30,000 and the whole thing collapse at the same time – am I missing something?

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        No Way. The Market is crashing already. Corporations are tapped out borrowing cheap money for stock buy backs to prop up their stock price. Just that is a 1/3 of the bubble. They will soon bail and the idiots will be holding the bag once a gain. I see a half price stock market coming again. Half price Gold and silver and $2 Gasoline.

        • eppe

          WWTI, Why do you not write a thesis on why all this is happening, we would LOVE to know where your vast knowledge came from? Then post it here, I am sure Mac would love to read it also, plus the 30-40 thousand who visit daily.
          But really, can you write such? Or are you just spewing dung out your mouth like Cartman?

          • Anonymous

            Eppe. You don’t even know the differance between Star and a Planet. You should stick to your small minded stolen jokes and leave the intellegent discussions to those who can understand it. Now shoe fly!!