Top CIA Expert: China Is Waging A Quiet ‘COLD WAR’ Against The US

by | Jul 23, 2018 | Headline News | 47 comments

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    According to one top CIA expert, China is waging a quiet Cold War against the United States. Although China doesn’t really want a war with the U.S., they are quietly preparing and undermining the nation in ways that aren’t obvious to everyone else, says Michael Collins, deputy assistant director of the CIA’s East Asia mission center.

    “I would argue … that what they’re waging against us is fundamentally a cold war — a cold war not like we saw during THE Cold War (between the U.S. and the Soviet Union) but a cold war by definition,Collins said on Friday at the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado, according to CNBC.

    And apparently, the rising tensions go far beyond what is being publicized about the trade war (one most economic experts feel the U.S. cannot win) initiated by the Trump administration. But Collins is also concerned about China’s pursuit and subsequent attempts to steal business secrets and as many details as possible about high-tech research being conducted in the U.S. While the Chinese military is continually expanding and being modernized under communist “president”  Xi Jinping, (who voted himself king president forever) the U.S., as well as other nations, have whined repeatedly about the Asian nation’s construction of military outposts on islands in the South China Sea. “I would argue that it’s [China’s military expansion and attempts to surpass the U.S. as an economic superpower] the Crimea of the East,” Collins said, referring to Russia’s brash annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, which was condemned throughout the West.

    Marcel Lettre, former undersecretary of defense for intelligence, said China has the second-largest defense budget in the world, the largest standing army of ground forces, the third-largest air force and a navy of 300 ships and more than 60 submarines.

    “All of this is in the process of being modernized and upgraded,” said Lettre, who sat on a panel with Collins and Thornton. -CNBC

    According to Franklin Miller, former senior director for defense policy and arms control at the National Security Council, said these advancements in technology leading to China’s advanced weapons developments are emphasizing the need to have a dialogue with Beijing.

    FBI Director Christopher Wray said China, from a counterintelligence perspective, represents the “broadest and most significant threat America faces.” He said the FBI has economic espionage investigations in all 50 states that can be traced back to China. “The volume of it. The pervasiveness of it. The significance of it is something that I think this country cannot underestimate,” Wray said.

    But the U.S. is counter waging the same “Cold War” against China, as tariffs are continually threatened and added and a trade is expected to be paid for by the wallets of Americans, hurting the Chinese minimally. The U.S. economy appears to look strong on the surface,  but most experts have been warning that this trade war could be the nail in the coffin of the U.S. dollar and economy.


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      1. The CIA has the f*cking nerve to talk about how China is waging a quiet (as in “secret”), Cold War against the US.

        Well, WTF. The CIA ought to know. How many governments has the CIA over-thrown? How many world leaders has the CIA assassinated?

        I am an American Citizen and I say the CIA is not just the enemy of the world, and not just the enemy of the state, but the charter member for the Deep State responsible to no one but themselves.

        The CIA (along with all the other seventeen (17) US surveillance agencies needs to be taken down, and their facilities bulldozed to the ground.

        I am sick of this hypocrisy. I am sick to death of the endless wars and the endless war-mongering.

        And leave my duly-elected president alone.

        • Here you want the numbers..?? All because they hate us for our Freedoms. Yeah that’s it, they need to be killed. Mostly civilians in 3rd world countries.

          US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II
          By James A. Lucas
          Global Research, June 24, 2017
          Popular Resistance 27 November 2015
          Region: USA
          Theme: Crimes against Humanity

          • True but truth is an unpopular commodity in Murrka.

        • Get off your high horse.Empires such as China back during the dynasties perfected the art of war and espionage against their neighbors long before Christianity. Read Sun Tzu, The art of war.All the empires, Portugal,Japan,England,Persia,France,Russia..all of the old European Monarchs. Hell even most of the indigenous American Indian tribes, before their DNA crossed over the land bridge from north of Alaska.
          We are newcomers, not as slick as the above pros, but no different. It’s called the game of nations. Pick up a dam book. Stupid liberal.

          • P.S. NO it’s not pretty. It’s brutal. What if a nation refuses to sell another Nation …whaterver… via international trade what it needs to survive ?? Shall that nation refrain from force? What then ?
            For as long as there is competition over natural resources, there will be a need for military forces, and for the practitioners of the arts short if war.
            That’s reality. We don’t have to like it, but failure to acknowledge it is to live in a delusion.

      2. Yes, the CIA and their alphabet soup agencies do have their nerve, considering they are the #1 threat to the Constitutional USA. Why should the American people believe anything they say? They’ve done nothing but LIE! We the people will have to stand independently against our own government at some moment in the near future.

        • Gots to prop up a new bogie man to justify those $700 Billion in defense funding Dollars. Kill for profit. Create an enemy make more weapons and kill the evil doers. Did you know the US gave the Taliban $17 Million in April of 2001 just before Sept. You know to keep an eye on the poppy fields.. This was GW Bush’s and Colin Powell’s Mastermind thinking then.

          • OOPS Correction lets get the facts strait. Bush and Powell doctrine, feed the terrorists.

            Bush Gave Taliban $43 Million Four Months before 9/11
            by Brandon Friedman
            Mon Jul 14, 2008 at 05:42:01 PM PDT

            ht tp://
            Enslave your girls and women, harbor anti-US terrorists, destroy every vestige of civilization in your homeland, and the Bush Administration will embrace you. All that matters is that you line up as an ally in the drug war, the only international cause that this nation still takes seriously.

            That’s the message sent with the recent gift of $43 million to the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan, the most virulent anti-American violators of human rights in the world today. The gift, announced last Thursday by Secretary of State Colin Powell, in addition to other recent aid, makes the United States the main sponsor of the Taliban and rewards that “rogue regime” for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God. So, too, by the Taliban’s estimation, are most human activities, but it’s the ban on drugs that catches this administration’s attention.

            Never mind that Osama bin Laden still operates the leading anti-American terror operation from his base in Afghanistan, from which, among other crimes, he launched two bloody attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998.

            Sadly, the Bush Administration is cozying up to the Taliban regime at a time when the United Nations, at US insistence, imposes sanctions on Afghanistan because the Kabul government will not turn over Bin Laden.

      3. We’ve been at war with China since 2012 when China was permanently granted “most favored trade nation”. This too was our great leader Obumer’s treasonous act.

      4. Folks, China is a bunch of NO Good rat bastards! All they do is steal our trade secrets and technology and attempt to reverse-engineer almost everything under the sun. The CIA is definitely very crooked and shady no doubt but that does not lessen the threat China poses for the U.S. I personally cannot stand China and never have liked China, never liked any damn part of Asia for that matter.They are a bunch of dirty, vile, nasty 2 legged critters all over Asia, no like, no thanks. And then they come to the U.S. and pollute and ruin what is left here.

        • CC, good points about the Chinese. That picture of Chinese troops at the top looks like some of our future gun-grabbers. Let them come and try it. They’ll never see their homes again.

          • A US Patent is a Chinese Blue Print.

        • and they eat dogs 🙁

          i don’t like that.


          • So long as they leave cats alone I’m good. OH! They eat little kitty cats too? Shame!

        • 3ews planted in the US, and US Corporations and in Government, many dual Citizens with no oversite, Steal $$$Billions Annually in intelectual property for their motherland, who then resells our Military technology to China. Israehell copies our designs and resells our products for profit to China. Thats a FACT. ISRAEHELL IS THE BIGGEST THIEF AND THREAT TO THE USA. From the USS Liberty attack the to 9-11, Boston Marathon Bombing, to selling China our secrets. Amazing how their AIPAC Blackmails 30% of Congress to give them special status protections and lets not for get lots of money. $38 Billion all to undermine the US stability and honest government. Death to ALL Traitors, Foreign and domestic.

      5. There are no good guys, only victims. The US trade deficit with China for 2017 was $375 billion. Every three years we have a total trade deficit with China of about one trillion dollars. That is a transfer of wealth from the US to China of one trillion every three years. That’s our wealth. The wealth of our nation. We have a similar trade deficit with the rest of the world for about the same amount of money. So we loose two trillion in wealth every three years. How long can that continue? That appears to be the reason why Trump is trying to redo all the trade agreements. Maybe.

        • No, it isn’t a transfer of wealth. The trade deficit is only a transfer of paper with green writing on it. That is the incredible privilege we enjoy.

          If the Dollar is to be the world’s reserve currency then the only way for foreign countries to amass those reserves of dollars is to sell us things cheaper than we make them ourselves. This is the essential point most folks don’t understand.

          The deal is that they make products for us cheap and we get to pay for them with green paper we print up. It is the best deal in world history.

      6. I find it interesting that we denigrate the Federal Reserve for its incompetence even though they have 100 years experience in world wide monetary policy but fawn over the Chinese who have no such experience. They are Communists. They will f*ck it up. It’s only a matter of time.

        On the other hand, China is the world master of industrial espionage. The answer to that is to not let Chinese nationals into this country for education or employment.
        Of course Washington will never figure that out.

      7. Chinese seed vendors look like a garden party of exotic delights. Once they’ve shang-hai’ed your money, they send whatever they want; that was just a special promotion. It was Chinese New Year’s. And, their culture believes in random substitutions, like that.

        “Welcome, sing my song
        I got that how you cow
        I give you eggroll now,
        Don’t care if you want steak
        I give you by mistake
        You want some wonton soup?
        I give you eggdrop, oops”

        Always, when you buy from China.

        Flipflops contained blistering agents. Trinkets contained poisonous, heavy metals. Formaldehyde in the cabbages, arsenic in the apples and juice, cardboard in the the dumplings, chicken manure in the tilapia fish, (hopefully) inert gel in the shellfish.

        They allegedly make a diphtheria vaccine, used, domestically, here, and aviation electronics for your defense industry. Unbranded and outsourced electronics for the consumer market don’t work, at all, as the general rule.

        It seems that ruder kids pick up steetsmarts on the playground toys.

        RINO’s lose said smarts, a little at a time, during their alleged, responsible adulthood.

        • Great post, really enjoyed it, thanks.

      8. I’m a tech guy. These Chinese mofos come here as students then disappear into the Asian community on those visas and the steal every bit of tech we have. China is worse than Russia.

      9. I learned Mandarin in 7 to 8th grades
        back when CA had a decent school system.
        I’ve forgotten most of it.
        Just like I’ve forgotten most my Spanish.
        My point is “use it or lose it”.
        Right or wrong America has been at war
        forever. We are experts. We can’t even get along
        internally eg. Liberals vs Normal people.
        Go to war with us and you will lose.
        I do not worry about China as they kill off
        the innovative and the intelligent, and as student
        of their culture, I know that they always lie.
        I also know that internally they are weak.
        They rule by force and even Chinese want to be free
        And they have a “Free” India right on their back door.
        We are an Ocean away.

      10. As I’ve stated many times in the past I’ve stopped buying anything made in China. Their goods are cheaply made and contain toxic materials. Also if they are such a highly intelligent people, why are they stealing our technologies? It’s because the only thing they are good at is lying and stealing. I guess the old custom of losing face doesn’t matter anymore. They are not to be trusted, as any Asian population lacks trustworthiness, as has been proven by past actions. We have many enemies, and it’s our government officials actions of weakness that promotes China’s tantrums about trade. Stand up to them once and for all. I agree, don’ allow them into our country.

      11. It is just good to see XI stand up and retaliate every time trump does something to them. All this lies about how China steals technology is BS. Just another excuse for zog to try and stay on top. But Xi will keep fighting back and can also fight back if trump decides to attack China. trump aint got the balls to attack China. It would be funny to see though, watching XI get a few good shots in to the homeland. Xi could destroy usa so much they would never ever recover. It is just so nice to know that at least XI refuses to bend over for them.

        • You couldn’t be more wrong about Chinese industrial espionage you traitorous moron. Why do you think their newest fighter looks exactly like the F-35? China’s technological theft is quite well documented by any who care to look.

          • So true Stuart. Hey Bob why don’t you get on the first plane headed for China.

            • China does not use the POS F35. These stupid yanks can not make that thing fly. Who would want to steal that garbage? Xi and Russia both fly airplanes much better then that. Stupid yanks can’t even do basic math or read any more. So how is it that these morons are supposed to have technology worth stealing? Guess you believe yankys went to the moon too right?


        • As log as the ZOG and their mouthpiece, the MSM keeps us focused on Fake invented enemies, they can rob us blind with their other hand. Israehells job goal right now is to turn the US into the biggest welfare state out there. Chopping up America into little pieces and selling us off and out. So we go bankrupt and turn us into their slaves. The US Military is already Israels army. Looting and shooting up the Middle east for no good reason other than to create mass global and human chaos and genocide, which then tgey can control.

      12. In the meantime the Military Industrial Complex is focused upon the highest profit ultra high tech weapons systems aimed at Russia. China in the meantime gradually increases its economic reach thus requiring a protective military umbrella. No action will be overt enough to trigger a confrontation. China wants independent sources of raw material, energy and markets while the globalists want to control China.

        • K2,
          Pretty good observations.
          All the stuff they need is due north of them, but it is owned by a particularly nasty people called Russians. China thus goes to Africa, which whites wisely dumped because it is inhabited by animals. China will learn a lesson that the Europeans already have learned the hard way.

          • rellik

            “China will learn a lesson that the Europeans already have learned the hard way.”

            I’m not too sure of that. Africa didn’t run too bad until Africans ran it. Certainly there were abuses like the Belgian Congo but things functioned. China will buy the various governments getting bases and fuel stops. The indigenous people will, having no other economic choice work under indigenous administration and Chinese ownership. Guaranteed the CIA, MI5/6 and whoever will fan the flames of revolution in that arena. Watch China covertly meet “fire with fire” arming revolutionaries in the western sphere of influence. Its all one big literal Monopoly Game.

      13. Gen. McAurther had it right during the Korean War. He said: “Give me 6 atomic bombs, and that will be the end of China for 100 years”.!!!

      14. Kevin2, our own government and China are both enemies with their own evil intentions toward us. We a have a huge number enemies foreign and domestic. There are no saints anywhere to my knowledge.

        • “There are no saints anywhere to my knowledge.”

          I’ll second that. Internationally its all over market share and resource control with various ostensible excuses, Freedom and Democracy being the most often used. Domestically, my personal favorite is the war on, you pick, terrorism, drugs, crime, poverty. In reality TPTB desire to turn the world into an insect colony macro and micro. The war is on freedom.

          • Yep, “The War On…” is a fancy name for “Government Jobs Program”. There is never any intention of winning any of those “wars” – which is just as well because winning=subjugation.

            • Stuart

              “There is never any intention of winning any of those “wars” ”

              The goal is just to ‘fight them”. All bring power to government and diminish it from “We The People’. The first three, drugs, crime and terrorism has all but eviscerated the Bill Of Rights with specifics of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments.

      15. Then why are we obsessing about Russia?

        • Amen..

      16. Experts know almost everything about almost nothing…..

      17. CIA experts know nothing about anything.

      18. This fact isn’t new…..even though it may be news to a lot of people who don’t pay attention to what really transpires in the world. Point of fact is that aside from a decade or so lull after the USSR collapsed the “Cold War” never ended. It merely was on hiatus for the Russians while they regrouped and NEVER ceased as far as the Red Chinese were concerned. Both sets of commies have historically and currently spent massive efforts on undermining American freedoms and our economy in order to advance their power, privilege and agenda. The Chinese have NEVER been our friends…..and neither has Russia. Trump looks upon them not as friends but as competition. And that’s a far better way to look at them than as friends. In reality they are our enemies.

      19. The Lying CIA is the enemy of America, our peace and prosperity stripped more by entering needless wars one after another they invented. Cry wolf you lying sissys.

      20. I have always wondered what the Anglo-American elite hold over the Chinese elite. After all, the Chinese elite wants to be top dog in the New World Order as much as the Anglo-American elite does. If the Anglo-American elite does not hold anything over the Chinese elite, then why have they been building up China while they have been destroying their power base, the US?

      21. P.S. NO it’s not pretty. It’s brutal. What if a nation refuses to sell another Nation …whaterver… via international trade what it needs to survive ?? Shall that nation refrain from force? What then ?
        For as long as there is competition over natural resources, there will be a need for military forces, and for the practitioners of the arts short if war.
        That’s reality. We don’t have to like it, but failure to acknowledge it is to live in a delusion.

      22. “…This trade war could be the nail in the coffin of the U.S. dollar and economy.” –The “American” economy that’s “Made in (Communist) China”.

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