They Are Getting Ready: “No Obvious Reason” For Why China Is Massively Boosting Stockpiles of Rice, Iron Ore, Precious Metals, Dry Milk

by | Jan 9, 2013 | Commodities, Headline News | 401 comments

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    If there were ever a sign that something is amiss, this may very well be it.

    United Nations agricultural experts are reporting confusion, after figures show that China imported 2.6 million tons of rice in 2012, substantially more than a four-fold increase over the 575,000 tons imported in 2011.

    The confusion stems from the fact that there is no obvious reason for vastly increased imports, since there has been no rice shortage in China. The speculation is that Chinese importers are taking advantage of low international prices, but all that means is that China’s own vast supplies of domestically grown rice are being stockpiled.

    Why would China suddenly be stockpiling millions of tons of rice for no apparent reason? 

    Perhaps it’s related to China’s aggressive military buildup and war preparations in the Pacific and in central Asia.

    If a 400% year-over-year increase in rice stockpiles isn’t enough to convince you the Chinese are preparing for a significant near-term event, consider that in Australia the country’s two major baby formula distributors have reported they are unable to keep up with demand for their dry milk formula products. Grocery stores throughout the country have been left empty of the essential infant staple as a result of bulk exports by the Chinese.

    A surge in sales of one of Australia’s most popular brands of infant formula has led to an unusual sight for this wealthy nation: barren shelves in the baby aisle and even rationing of baby food in some leading retail outlets.

    We’d be more apt to believe the Chinese were panic-buying baby formula had the Chinese milk scandal occurred recently. The problem is that it happened four years ago. Are we to believe the Chinese are just now realizing their baby food may be tainted?

    In addition to the apparent build-up in food stocks, the Chinese are further diversifying their cash assets (denominated in US Dollars) into physical goods. In fact, in just a single month in 2012, the Chinese imported and stockpiled more gold than the entirety of the gold stored in the vaults of the European Central Bank (and did we mention they did this in one month?).

    Their precious metals stockpiles have grown so quickly in recent years that Chinese official holdings remain a complete mystery to Western governments and it’s rumored that the People’s Republic may now be the second largest gold hoarding nation in the world, behind the United States.

    We won’t know for sure until the official disclosure which will come when China is ready and not a moment earlier, but at the current run-rate of accumulation which is just shy of 1,000 tons per year, it is certainly within the realm of possibilities that China is now the second largest holder of gold in the world, surpassing Germany’s 3,395 tons and second only to the US.

    But the Chinese aren’t just buying precious metals. They’re rapidly acquiring industrial metals as well.

    Spot iron prices are up to an almost 15-month high at $153.90 per tonne. The rally in prices, which started in December 2012, is mainly due to China’s rebuilding of its stockpiles as the Asian giant gears to boost its economy, which in turn, could improve steel demand.

    The official explanation, that China is preparing stockpiles in anticipation of an economic recovery, is quite amusing considering that just 8 months ago Reuters reported that China had an oversupply, so much so that their storage facilities had run out of room to store all the inventory!

    When metals warehouses in top consumer China are so full that workers start stockpiling iron ore in granaries and copper in car parks, you know the global economy could be in trouble.

    At Qingdao Port, home to one of China’s largest iron ore terminals, hundreds of mounds of iron ore, each as tall as a three-storey building, spill over into an area signposted “grains storage” and almost to the street.

    Further south, some bonded warehouses in Shanghai are using carparks to store swollen copper stockpiles – another unusual phenomenon that bodes ill for global metal prices and raises questions about China’s ability to sustain its economic growth as the rest of the world falters.

    Now, why would China be stockpiling even more iron (and setting 15 month price highs in the process) if they had massive amounts of excess inventory just last year?

    Something tells us this has nothing to do with an economic recovery, or even economic theory in terms of popular mainstream analysis.

    Why does China need four times as  much rice year-over-year? Why purchase more iron when you already have a huge surplus? Why buy gold when, as Federal Reserve Chairmen Ben Bernanke suggests, it is not real money? Why build massive cities capable of housing a million or more people, and then keep them empty?

    It doesn’t add up. None of it makes any sense.

    Unless the Chinese know something we haven’t been made privy to.

    Is it possible, in a world where hundreds of trillions of dollars are owed, where the United States indirectly controls most of the globe’s oil reserves, and where super powers have built tens of thousands of nuclear weapons and spent hundreds of billions on weapons of war (real ones, not those pesky semi-automatic assault rifles), that the Chinese expect things to take a turn for the worse in the near future?

    The Chinese are buying physical assets – and not just representations of those assets in the form of paper receipts – but the actual physical commodities. And they are storing them in-country. Perhaps they’ve determined that U.S. and European debt are a losing proposition and it’s only a matter of time before the financial, economic and monetary systems of the West undergo a complete collapse.

    At best, what these signs indicate is that the People’s Republic of China is expecting the value of currencies ( they have trillions in Western currency reserves) will deteriorate with respect to physical commodities. They are stocking up ahead of the carnage and buying what they can before their savings are hyper-inflated away.

    At worst, they may very well be getting ready for what geopolitical analyst Joel Skousen warned of in his documentary Strategic Relocation, where he argued that some time in the next decade the Chinese and Russians may team up against the United States in a thermo-nuclear showdown.

    Hard to believe? Maybe.

    But consider that China is taking measures now, in addition to their stockpiling, that suggest we are already in the opening salvos of World War III. They have already taken steps to map our entire national grid – that includes water, power, refining, commerce and transportation infrastructure. They’re directly involved in hacking government and commercial networks and are responsible for what has been called the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. Militarily, the PRC has been developing technology like EMP weapons systems, capable of disabling our military fleets and the electrical infrastructure of the country as a whole, and has been caught red-handed manufacturing fake computer chips used in U.S. Navy weapons systems.

    If you still doubt China’s intentions and expectations, look to other governments, including our own, for signs that someone, somewhere is planning for horrific worst-case scenarios:

    Perhaps there’s a reason why former Congressman Roscoe Bartlett has warned, “those who can, should move their families out of the city.”

    As Kyle Bass noted in a recent speech, “it’s just a question of when will this unravel and how will it unravel.”

    Given how similar events have played out in history, we think you know how this ends.

    It ends through war.

    Governments around the world are stockpiling food, supplies, precious metals and arms, suggesting that there is foreknowledge of an impending event.

    Should we be doing the same?


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      1. I am still upset over the gun issues and I have to post this final word.

        @ Everyone. What do you think of this? Maybe this argument in support of the 2nd. Amendment would gain some true support. If not just pray that there are enough people with brains in their head to not at all disarm America.

        So long 2nd. Amendment, so long all freedoms.

        We all must stand up to anyone that attempts to trash our 2nd. Amendment rights to protect ourselves, our community, our state, our country. The United States cannot be weaken or appear weakened in the many eyes of the many enemies of the U.S. Degrading the U.S. civilian militia will achieve this and what ALL enemies of the U.S. desperately want.

        Without the U.S., countries of Europe are steamrolled over by Russian, Chinese, and other Eastern Coaliation forces. Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and all other countries fall quickly without the United States. The United States MUST remain strong and this starts with an internal well equipped civilian back up army that the Founding Fathers of America fully intended when they wrote the Bill of Rights and the 2nd. Amendment.

        Limiting civilian firearms makes the civilian army’s chances of defending the U.S. from foreign invasion that much more difficult and would dramatically increase U.S. civilian fatalities exponentially against any better armed foreign invader.

        Banning present day legal firearms from civilians IS a national security risk to the very survival of the United States from not only foreign invasion, but also from catastrophic wide spread national disasters that terrorists or other groups would look to take immediate advantage of and/or further enhance the orginal attack they instigated. Realistic type of overwhelming disasters loom for the U.S. as well as worldwide calamities. Mega earthquakes such as last year in Japan, TRUE pandemics such as a new virus on the level or worse of smallpox, nuclear disasters as aging nuclear reactors increase that chance each year, climatic super mega storms much worse than Sandy, nationwide civil disturbances, and too many more to mention.

        Many anti-self defense advocates run on a campaign that rifles such as the AR-15 will never be necessary for use. During the Los Angeles riots this proved to be life savers for many, and shall be the case in future riots in whcih law enforcement cannot control the masses of people rioting. Hurricane Katrina well proved that people were on their own for long periods of time and survived the roaming gangs because of the firearms they thankfully had to protect their families with. Catastrophic disasters are occurring more frequently and without enough protection the average citizen is going to be faced with attackers that will severely injury them, rape them, and murder them when those that are suppose to protect you, CAN’T.

        Banning self defense causes crime rates to explode. Statistics show this fact to be all too apparent, the more a government makes illegal for the honest person to protect themselves with, the more likely the criminal is going to feel like they can get away with a crime. Bad guys NEVER play by the rules, this is why you call them bad guys. Being an ally of the criminal starts with giving them the advantage of being a BETTER predator, by weakening their prey.

        Banning CERTAIN means of self defense almost always leads to further bans of protection that the government and law makers “promised” that they would never attempt to limit or prohibit. Ban the popular term “assault rifles” and not far behind will be most if not all handguns, most shotguns and rifles, and YES non-lethal means of defense such as tasers, stun guns and stun batons, pepper spray and much, much more than this. Look at other countries as proof of this and how their citizens shiver in fear while going out on the streets of being attacked. Further terrified by the frightening laws protecting the criminal if they defend themselves.

        The means of protection guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment will change as technology changes. Weapons will become more powerful, more accurate, and more deadly, ON THE SIDE OF THE ENEMIES of the United States. For that guaranteed law that states “a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”, that civilian army MUST ADAPT. You cannot defend America with single shot musket rifles, you MUST have similar or better arms to MATCH an invader or die and lose America and ALL freedom to the enemy. It is far more than an issue of a person defending their home, it is defending your country from being conquered. The armed forces are spread way too thin and the civilian army could be the ONLY thing standing between losing ALL those freedoms and being occupied by a force that would give you NO freedoms at all.

        Over 200 years some of the wisest people to ever walk the face of the planet foresaw the dangers of civilians then and hundreds of years in their future not being able to defend themselves and their country from those (foreign and domestic) that would attempt to overthrow the United States. These people with much foresight wrote a constitution with laws that were never meant to be watered down or altered, these laws were written to be timeless throughout every technological advancement and changing of society. These laws were meant to make sure that freedom continued well beyond the 21st. century. The Bill of Rights is the very cornerstone of the whole foundation of these freedoms that few countries enjoy, and further have enjoyed as long as Americans have. Trashing the 2nd. Amendment in favor of something that would leave the door wide open to those that want to destroy these freedoms should be unconscionable to those that would call themselves AMERICANS.

        • @BI…..

          Once you realize that this whole debate is not about logic and reason, you’ll be on your way to understanding that the issue is that TPTB have an agenda. They are impervious to reason because they do not care about the truth….or making people safe. They simply want control. That’s it. ALL of it. That is their end-game. Everything else is simply a means to an end.

          All that is left to us is to draw our own lines in the sand and then give them literal hell when they cross it.

          I for one, am done attempting to reason with these people, and won’t waste another minute trying. My response to them at this point is, “I will not be disarmed, and anyone attempting to disarm me is going to have a very bad day.”

          • I second that Walt. Well everyone, I guess the game is on. This will separate the men from the boys. I spoke with my sons today and explained what is going on and that I will not turn in my guns to a bunch of fucking idiots that couldn’t supervise a litter of puppies much less govern a Nation. Are we going to fight for our freedom and our God-given Rights…or are we going to take it up the ass…AGAIN??? MOLON LABE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

            • P.S…AND FUCK CHINA!!

              • Better stop using Chinese inventions of firearms and gunpowder I guess

                • That goes without saying…..

              • You are mad at China and not mad at the Socialist Atheist in Washington D.C. who is going to get rid of your guns? Yet, is it just me or the U.S. has no business in being in Iraq and in Afghanistan. I take it that it is OK for the Anglo nations to invade and rob nations of their resources as they have done for the last 500 years i.e. British Empire who has sold opium to the Chinese. O, did you forget that little historical fact and maybe why China doesn’t trust the Western nations perhaps? Take it from George Carlin, US is in the business of bombing brown people you freaking hypocrite.

                • If you’re going back 500 years you may as well blame the Turks for interrupting Europe’s trade with India and the Orient through Byzantium. The conquest of Constantinople is what led to the voyages of discovery. Cause and effect.

                • Hey dummy – Perhaps you forgot, but Afghanistan harbored those f***s that attacked us on 9/11.
                  Iraq was another story – incompetence by the Bush administration.

                  • Most were Saudi Arabian or Egyptian. It’s all about corporatocracy.

              • Why fuck China? They just like you and me as prepper, what you should worry is US gov’t, not other part of the world.

                • China is not a Prepper…

                  they are an aggressor

                  the reptilians have decided they will win the next international war and to guarantee this they need to disarm (limit self defense) Americans.

                  • SHTF Plan is for all peoples of all countries.
                    If you can’t get along now, you might as well kill yourself when SHTF.
                    Mental strength is just as important as prepper awareness.

                    Read a book on our own aggressive intrusions today and in the past.

            • Where’s the msm’s outrage at world gov’ts prepping? Individuals prepping is a joke to them but whole gov’ts is a warning to the rest of us.
              Everything china is doing is in anticipation of weakened gov’ts/countries. Making take over easier for them.
              Mac, good article.

              • Of course China is “prepping’. They are not stupid like most Westerners. Even the Philippines is ignoring the Wests demands that they stop worrying about being food independent and continue to import rice, GMO rice, of course. Instead, the Philippines are continuing to work toward being free of food imports of any kind in the next few years.

                The US Dollar is basically Charmin and China knows it. They are spending them as fast as possible for real things of value, food, natural resources (oil/coal/ores), precious metals, etc. They see the collapse coming. As do most that visit this site. Why not prepare? If there is a war, it will be started by the West to try to prevent their demise.

                • In any confrontation with USA, China’s first salvo would be economic. They figure they can recover faster than USA, and it would be less destructive to China than actual military engagement (USA would be greatly weakened after economic attack). The Chinese are not stupid enough to think they have USA by the short & curlies just because they hold a gob of US paper debt. Their US treasury holdings are intended as a weapon of war, just like our trillion dollar navy.

                • The ECB started the EUR with USD in reserve and 5% of the 17 nations contributing to it`s gold reserve. I mean 5% of the EUR was gold coming from 17 central banks.

                  Now it`s around 15%. If the increase in gold price is added, the ECB has 26% of their reservrs backed by goldwhen you mark it to market. And a balanced commercial trade.

                  But the rest of the gold the 17 central bank hold adds up to over 10k tonnes.



                  • Assuming that they still have the gold that they claim to have. Just as the US “claims” to have Fort Knox, but I haven’t seen any recent pictures of said gold. TPTB know how to lie with numbers.

          • WALT

            Just watched James Yeager (Tactical Response)…

            “pack your bags!”

            his response to Bidens statements regarding Executive orders on assault rifles..


            • Possee,
              Link us please.
              Thanks 🙂

                • video already removed, or an error in the link?


                • Outstanding. This should be all of our attitudes!!!!

                  • Sorry I disagree, he had his carry permit suspended because of this stunt. He deserved it.

                    He’s lucky they didn’t haul off his weapons as well.

                • Barlow,video has been removed…
                  did anyone save it?

                • It has been scrubbed. He redid it and left out the part about killing someone. Here is the redo.


              • bulldog

                Posted but awaiting moderation..

                search this query

                it will come up..

                pack your bags yeager


                • got it. Thanks

                • Apparently this video has been taken down. What is more interesting is that threads about this video have been scrubbed from some other forums…

                • What if you “can’t pack your bags”? What if you have to hunker down and be low? Not all of us “old fogies” have the ability to sky out….so, the alternative is to be where you are and do the best that you can….?
                  Suggestions appreciated….thx


                  • If you have stuff, be a squirrel and hid it in lots of unusual places, along with the normal spots. Crooks will grab the visual stuff and run, while you have back ups in walls, beds, etc. Get creative and think outside the box.

                  • Just like JACKRO posts below…squirrel away as much as you can. Hide some in a few different places. Join or start a group of like minded individuals for support. Squirrel away lots more. Make sure your family understands what is happening so they are prepared. Squirrel away lots more.

                    Take your cues from these governments….they are squirreling away stuff………….

                • FOB Not trying to be mean But some just wont make it if it gets that bad. In some cases thats what to prepare for. Take a honest look at yourself. Can you stop someone at the door. Can you go to the market if there are thugs everywhere.

                  • I can stop someone at the door. Around 100 if I really have to,


              Assault Weapon Ban…My Line in the Sand

              • awesome video and he speaks the truth.
                ‘May love be the light that guides us through the darkness.’

                • everything is scrubbed from his site in regards to the latest video..

                  no updates

                  be careful what you state out there

                  you will be silenced sooner or later..


            • Before it gets to JY’s point in the vid, we need to show posture and restraint. We still can to fight w/ the pen first.. I’ve drafted the following template letter to send to your local Sheriff, they are our last line of defense. Please help to get them on our side. Nobody wants a bloody revolution, if our peaceful efforts are of no avail, well then.. you’ll see history in the making.

              Please pass this template letter in support of the 2nd Amend to your local Sheriffs, pass it around:

            • Good for yeager ,He can reach a lot more than us.The nra needs to make plans for rallying the members for civil war.Hit and run,big mouth gatoraid jugs work good for 22silencers if you use hollowpoints they travel slower you get about 3 good quit shots.Think guerrilla warfare.This is the only way to defeat big powerful g men.Find safe house’s to store,hide weapons and ammo.I hate to say but this is not gonna end well.Hope for the best plan for the worst.

          • I agree with you 100% Walt, but it still feels like we are just pissing in the wind and all we will get is more and more blowback. Doesn’t mean I won’t fight with all my strength, but it does seem like we already know how this will end. Good luck and God Bless all patriots.

            How deep do I need to dig to hide from this coming hell?

            • You can dig. Just make sure you don’t dig just 6 feet….

            • I’ve stated in a post on a previous thread that I think I am beginning to understand a little how the Jews must have felt in Germany in the early 1930’s.

              • Almost identical to Germany in the 30’s. People need to be aware of the history and how it is ALL simply repeating itself. Didn’t work then ,won’t work now!!!

                Better to die a free man than to live as a slave.

                • It’s a big world. If you want to stay and die like the Jews, do that. Some of us are not cannon fodder-we don’t die for dirt.
                  During WWII when millions were dying for their countries, civilized people were going to the opera in Argentina.
                  War is for losers.

          • BI, Walt is exactly correct…
            Your logical and erudite arguments are mocked and fall on deaf ears.
            Alec Jones had it right, GET IN THEIR FACE!


            We will need every rifle behind every blade of grass if China comes a calling to ‘collect’ on their debts…

            • and that “get in your face” style is EXACTLY what the Leftist loons have been doing for decades. Remember, there are less than 20% of Americans who are Progressive idealists and activists. But because they are well-organized and extremely vocal, their own “get in your face” style has worked.

              Fight fire with fire. The days of Conservative niceties are over.

              And take no prisoners.

              • I saw a quote somewhere…but I can’t remember it exactly. And I can’t remember who said it. But it goes something like this.

                “The left succeeds because they are a united minority going against a divided majority.”

                • @Walt, If you mean ‘take no prisoners’ then that, my friend, is drawn from the epic “Lawrence Of Arabia” movie.

                • You may be surprised to know that the “Left” also feels that they are a divided minority against a united majority.

                  Seems to me both ends of the spectrum of citizenry have more in common than either thinks.

                  Today’s true young Left was the best of “Occupy” and don’t think for a moment that they didn’t reach across the fence to the original (pre-Palin and Beck)Tea Party members. The TP warned Occupy about infiltrators and agenda co-opters.

                  Both sides need to clearly define themselves in today’s terms. Yes, I approach Freedom from the Right, but I am not a Neo-con…and Yes, I approach Freedom from the Left, but I am not a Neo-Communist.

                  Because there are the Machiavellian,upper eschalen of both the Right and the Left who would like nothing better than to keep us divided on a few issues so that we do not unite on the larger issues upon which we agree.

                  Read books by or find Anthony C. Sutton on youtube. Impeccably-documented research on how Wall St. supported both the Bolsheviks and the Nazis at the expense of all of us.

                  Basically…..Granola redneck…. meet city slicker farmer. ( Those ARE our stereotypes…aren’t they?

          • BI…I agree, the time for reasoning is over. It’s like a dog barking at a passing car. Time to bite some tires.

            • Motion seconded.

          • BRAVO and DITTO! MOLON LABE

          • You write :
            My response to them at this point is, “I will not be disarmed, and anyone attempting to disarm me is going to have a very bad day.”


            But what if the government just send an armed drone to your adress and makes a “Pakistanian Visit”.

            It will probably not be a fair fight !.

            • Then they will be looking in the wrong place….unless I am one of the very first they take out.

          • Control is the number one goal. Everything else is pure B.S.

            This phony concern for the lives of these children in Newtown is sickening. Where-the-hell is the concern for the lives of children killed in every possible way every day? What of the children in inner cities that are killed all the time? The selective concern and faux outrage only serves to highlight the true nature of these people: Anything, no matter how evil, is nothing but a tool for them to acquire what they desire most: Total control over a helpless and docile populace, with them at the top of course….think Hunger Games.

          • Great point. The time for talking is over.

          • Very, very well said Walt. They do NOT care about reason, truth, common sense responses OR the rights and well being of the citizenry. They care ONLY about power and control. Hence the calls for disarming the citizens, the calls for mandatory innoculations (funny, they’re pro choice when it comes to abortion, but not with flu shots??? again, no logic), The obvious war on those who prepare despite the calls for preparedness by FEMA.
            This is why I feel like we live in BIZARRO-LAND!!!! And the masses are EATING THIS UP AND ASKING FOR SECONDS!!!!

        • I am still trying to let it sink in that someone assassinated the YouTube Russian guy Keith Ratliff??

        • While a case can be made for any of the scenarios that Mac has outlined, the fact is that the CCP has long held very large stockpiles of both food and material to keep the masses fed, employed, and pacified.

          Nothing new about that.

          Do not worry about a Chinese nuclear threat against US. Those days are over. Why destroy what you can buy with OUR money? Someone must buy Chinese products. WE are their consumers.

          Russia on the other hand should be concerned and they are. The day will come when the Chinese will move, and they will move West and North.

          I do not doubt that the CCP expects to take a big hit on their dollars reserves in two to five years. This is built into the AGREEMENT with US and why the Chinese have been buying their fair share of global assets everywhere with OUR dollars while it is still the WRC.

          It wasn’t a “Chines Miracle” that created a capitalist China. It was the transfer of American middle class wealth and the means to produce that wealth to China.

          The GB’s and the CCP are Full Partners. OUR economy and the economy of China are entwined, and you will be banking at a Chinese bank in the US soon enough.

          The PTB allowed the transfer of neutron bomb technology to China so that the fallout that will be generated between China in a war with Russia and India for the Asian continent will not contaminate the States.

          The new axis is Europe/America/China against Russia/India/Iran. The West will engage from the West to the Middle East and China will engage from the East toward the West, petty squabbles over Taiwan and the South China Sea notwithstanding.

          It is a new world, but as yet there is not order, but chaos. Engage.

          • Having said all of that, there is another possibility. In a word:


            Its out there and it is coming this way. My bet is on 2015.

            • Not arguing here….but can you post some “factual” links?

              I’ve been hearing about this for a while. I’d like to see something that has some real science behind it.


              • Walt: I know. I was very skeptical at first. I have considered “Nibiru” long and hard. My current conclusion is a recent decision. Most evidence at this point is circumstantial; but growing. And it is a plausible explanation for certain cyclical phenomena on the earth.

                There have been independent sightings of Two Suns all over the world; and I mean distinct bodies visible in the sky, not lens reflections, or light dispersed by clouds.

                First, binary star systems are the norm, not the exception.

                Second, in 1983 a brown dwarf was sighted 50 billion miles away. At only 100,000 miles an hour (the speed of most comets)it is more than half way here. That is if was was moving in OUR direction and at only 100,000 mph.

                Third, something is currently affecting the orbits of the outer gas giants, and Jupiter in particular may be undergoing a pole shift of its own in response to a pole reversal of the Sun.

                The Bible states that a “sun will arise (in the Last Days) with healing (cleansing?) in its wings”. Nibiru mythology calls it the “winged planet” due to the moons and debris surrounding it.

                The prophets also state that the earth will stagger to and fro in space “like a drunkard”, and that a cross will be seen in the sky over Jerusalem.

                This cross is likely due to an earth tilt caused by a Pole Shift or passing heavenly body large enough to disrupt earth’s orbit, and positions the Southern Cross over Jerusalem, turning daylight into darkness at noon Jerusalem time.

                Don’t have those links available but you can do the research if you want. 🙂

                • Thanks! Interesting stuff. I’m not discounting it at all. TPTB seem to know that something is coming. (construction of huge underground bunker complexes and storing of large quantities of long term food) It would seem that they are planning for something beyond mere civil disturbance caused by “normal” situations.

                  I find the references to Biblical prophesies particularly interesting.

          • China is stockpiling all that rice ‘cuz they know they will be hungry 30 minutes later.

          • @ Dk, I posted a response further down the line with respect to China and that potential, mostly imaginary threat. Somehow, it disappeared into the “ether”. Possibly my fault, possibly not.

            I agree that a “military response/threat” from China is absurd. Why would they bother when our own DOMESTIC enemies are hell bent on disarming us and secondarily starving us.

            China holds the economic “joker card” with respect to OUR economic viability already. What purpose would be served by a “military” response when THEY can simply wait for the DOMESTIC ENEMIES OF THE USA to complete the task for them?

            OUR fight is not with China…it is with the domestic enemy WE sleep with daily. OUR immediate concern and WAR is with our own government. Not the Chinese.

            But this JOKE of the INDUSTRIAL MILITARY COMPLEX must continually convince the “sheeple” that the REAL THREAT is “beyond our borders and a part of the continuing fairytale war-on-terror and OUTSIDE aggression.”

            OUR WAR is HERE. And the time to WIN and fight it is NOW. The Chinese are simply the next “boogey man” to keep the funds flowing into OUR TOTALLY CORRUPT AND LYING system as it now exist.

            Allowing the BS of “outside threats” to hide the REAL THREAT “domestic enemies”, simply dilutes the attention of the “grazing sheeple” from concentrating on THEM!

            WAKE-THE-FU*K-UP people. The biggest, most immediate, and ultimately LETHAL threat to your existence and future reside within YOUR country. You may not like that FACT, but you damn sure better accept it!

            • I agree Yental. Washington saw this Day and Time more than 230 years ago: a Day of Reckoning between the forces of good and evil and why America will not be participating in the NWO and End Times.

              Patriots will help US make OUR exit from that world system. See Washington’s Vision at SHTF Patriots and pass the word, people.

              Nature’s God is with US. The future of humanity is freedom!!!

            • I’ve posted before discerning the more immenint threat from our governemnt opposed to the outlying threat from China at the moment. But let’s not kid ourselves here China is the biggest existential threat our nation faces right now. Do you think they are buying our bonds because it is worthy investment? Absolutley not, they are putting us in their pocket and leveraging us for a future military conflict whether thats tomorrow, next year or next decade. China is following the Art of War perfectly.

              Why all of a sudden are we “pivoting towards the Pacific”? It’s to counteract an about to be belligerent China. Countries like China and Russia want to see us divided and weak so they can deal with us from a position of power and leverage.

              That being said, i agree with you, our first priority should be to clean up here before we can face off against another nation. But it’s something to prepare for, warn against and be ready just like a pandemic, currency collapse,earthquake, super volcano, tsunami WW3, food shortages, alien invasion, zombie apocalypse…

              People need to wake up and the people here are. Its the others who aren’t on here. We need to wake people in our families, neighborhoods and communitiies.

            • >>>-Yental-<<-FLASH TRAFFIC-<———

              …..this ain't no drill this time around!!!!!!!!!

              • 10 – 4 Gunsmith, I “understand”!

                • Wolf: China is NOT a existential threat to the USA. They are an existential threat to Russia and India. They need the raw materials from Russia and India is THEIR biggest economic threat.

                  While Chinese workers make $.50 an hour (and that wage is rising in parts of China) Indians work for $.50 a day!

                  Welcome to the New World Order!!! 🙂

            • DK is right. China would LOVE to have North America’s resources, but those in Siberia are an ocean closer. If USA tries to interfere with their endeavors in Asia, they will nuke USA economically. China will play ball with USA only as long as it is to their advantage. To bring a military fight to USA, the logistics would be horribly expensive. Isn’t that one of the things bankrupting USA right now?

              • DK, Other than our own liberal left within our own borders what other nation or group would you consider a greater existential threat than China?

                You make statements regarding China eying Russia. In the past, yes it is true China has sought to move into siberia for the oil/gas reserves and clean water. However a major paradigm shift has occured which completely took defense analysts and think tank organizations across the world by storm. China and Rusia began cooperating economically and militarily, this was something everybody before it happned said it would never happen. Yet it did.

                In regards to India, China has has always had border disputes. And yes China does covet India’s natural resources but their is something India and Russia both lack.

                That is the enoumous amount of fertile land to feed and support a growing population of 1.3 billion. China is all over Canada, Mexico, and central America. They are even drilling for oil in the carribean. Just look up Chi Hoatian or Unrestricted Warfare. That should be all you need to know.

                They are gobbling up and leveraging us out of neighbors resources. After a USD devaluation and or collapse our military will be gutted. We would not be able to fight them like we can today. We would retreat to within our borders and their would be a power vacuum filled by China. How you cant acknowledge this is beyond me. And to be so dismissive and willfully turn a blind eye is outrageous. The most likely WW3 scenario is israel, America and maybe the countries of the EU against Iran, Russia and China. India won’t be a factor, nevertheless fighting along side Iran and Russia. I got news for you as well, America will not be in the New World Order, as of now myself and a 100 million legal gun owners won’t let that happen. There wouldn’t be an America left if it came to that.

                We the United States are portrayed as the enemies of China throughout tv, movies and video games over there. So maybe you and yental and everybody else who dismisses China so readily should wake up beacause China has and their looking over here.

                • Wolf: “DK, Other than our own liberal left within our own borders what other nation or group would you consider a greater existential threat than China?”

                  I consider Islam a greater threat than either China or Russia simply because Muslims are fanatical and within another 5-10 years radical Muslims will control the Middle East and much of Africa again. This clash with US is a Clash of Civilizations.

                  Both Russia and China have adopted state (crony) capitalism, just like US. They are also rational, understand the principle of MAD, and are profit motivated.

                  India will develop into the greatest threat to China because it will undercut China economically, threatening the CCP source of power which it apportions to the masses to keep them passive.

                  The CCP understands this fact and builds it into their war gaming strategies. Aggression, like water and electricity, always follows the path of least resistance.

                  Thus the “string of pearls” that the US has encircled China with, represents a line in the sand. China’s natural expansion then is to the west and north.

                  The US is its natural economic partner and competitor; and as pointed out by Bob, there is an ocean between US and them, which WE control.

              • Bob: China could not at this time compete militarily with the US even if they wanted too.

                And there is no profit in military confrontation with US anyway. Remember, “wealth is glorious”. We can shoot their missiles down with OUR laser and P-beam weapons.

                Why attack the biggest kid on the block when you can bully the smaller kids?

                The GB’s and PTB are willingly giving China the biggest share of the wealth (while they profit from it) because China is the largest nation in the world by population.

                This will make China the “target” in another ten years instead of US. OUR superior technology will protect US from them (and anyone else) while WE buy their goods.

                Not everyone has OUR technology. Those who don’t should be worried, and investing heavily in their own.

                Wolf: As far as China, Russia, and India in SCO, “keep your friends close and your enemies closer”.

                • DK,

                  I don’t even know where to begin with your posts. So let’s start with your claim Islam is our biggest threat. So let’s delve into who really supports the Islamic extremists. I must assume you mean Iran who then is supported not only by Russia but by China as well. Maybe Syria, but then again we have Russia and China stumping every UN security council vote on the matter. Let’s go to Pakistan and Afghanistan, China just recently opened a port in Pakistan and they have recently surveyed Afghanistan and is in talks with karzei to begin extracting the 3 trillion in resources(by our own calculations)out of the ground there. Now we will head to the south paciific which is oddly of asian ethnicities yet have a population of mostly poor muslims. Now we head to Africa where everwhere basically above the equator is predominately Muslim and whatever countries near the equator are embroiled in genocidal civil wars between Muslims, Christians and natives are unfolding. And if you havent noticed the Chinese are embedded in Africa pillaging its natural resources.

                  Clearly i have demonstrated the Chinese are everywhere counteracting our influence. To not see it is straight ignorance at this point. and i question if your just arguing for the sake of arguing.

                  I almost forgot about India. India is 50 years behind China. And India doesnt have a World Super Power to pilfer trillions worth of industrial and military secrets from right now.

                  And our technology wont protect us if Obama cuts our nuclear detrrent and guts our military. Say the USD collapses just like you spoken of before then how does our military defend against another belligerent nation?

                  Our technology is also made in China for heavens sake. Our entire drone fleet is infected with malware they cant wipe keeps coming back. Makes you think how Iran landed those drones….hmmmm

                  Find me a processor or piece of software that doesnt have a tie back to China?

                  Lastly how on earth do you see China as an economic partner? Please read my post Comment ID: 1013177

                  One last thing from your post before. Have you ever had more one person attacking you? I have. What you do is take out the big guy, the loud mouth big shot then all the rest run away. Even if you hit him hard just once because everybody has a plan till they get hit.

                • Wolf: I don’t disagree with your analysis. Only your conclusions and perspective.

                  India is rapidly closing the gap with China and as the NWO transfers more manufacturing capability to India, Indonesia, Turkey and Egypt, China will experience “Free Trade” from an entirely new perspective.

                  While 300 million Chinese, or more, now have disposable income, about 600 million are still peasants. As China turns their economy inward now towards a conspicuous consumption economy like the US once had, the CCP will take those peasants and move them into the “Ghost Cities” to continue the modernization and development of the Chinese economy but at a much lower rate of expansion.

                  The PLAN is for the Global Capitalists who are financially entwined to move excess production to the most populous but more under developed countries, give the pheasants in these countries manufacturing jobs and turn them into consumers, as they did the Chinese.

                  They are taking a note from Henry Ford who raised the salaries of his workers so they could afford to buy the cars they were producing.

                  The same principle applies globally. More consumers, means more wealth for the Uber Rich. The Uber Rich in every nation controls the political process in that nation to the advantage of ALL Uber Rich, globally.

                  The investment class invests globally not locally anymore and the companies they invest in are global multinational companies of which they all own a piece. Thus 147 companies control 60% of Global GDP and the top 25 companies control 40% of Global GDP.

                  Russian and Chinese billionaires and multi millionaires are the norm now, not the exception. Competition is moving from military engagement between the Big Three to economic competition,

                  That is the goal of the NWO.

            • I’m not sure why you are getting so upset over the threat of a future Chinese conflict. The above posted article was about a rising belligerent China. If the article was about a flu pandemic and the comment section was littered with people’s perpectives about that would you be typing in all caps to wake up people? Or if BI posted about his eq predictions? Would you stifle that debate and dismiss it so easily beacause it is not what you want to talk about right now? I will reiterate every post i have made about China, other than ourselves within our own border CHINA is our biggest foe. Why don’t you do some reaearch on China and their military and more specifically what their military advancements are geared towards. Maybe it will open your perspective on this matter.

              • DK,

                My conclusion:

                China is an economic and military adversary.

                My perspective: From which my conclusion derives.

                I could write a 10,000 word report for you reiterating everyone of my previous posts and then some. All which are based on US military reports, US governemnt reports, leaked Chinese reports, personal testimony from individuals who have been to China or do business in China, Military and private defense analysts all the same thing: China is not a friendly partner of the United States. They are in fact hostile. But it would fall on deaf ears.

                You mostly hear from people on the left to dismiss the threat of China. They often say we are allies and economic partners not foes.

                Our relationship is symbiotic right now but so aren’t tape worms to humans. It doesn’t make it a healthy partnership for both involved together.

                How is it so hard to acknowledge from these INDISPUTABLE FACTS China is an adversary and not a healthy economic partner looking for a benficial mutual collaboration:

                China has pilfered trillions worth of economic, military and industrial secrets.

                Thousands of cyber attacks daily on defense systems eminating from China.

                Thousands of poisoned consumer good shipped to US department stores: poisoned milf, dog food, sheetrock, childrens toys etc…

                China demanding MGM studios change the sequal to Red Dawn to North korean soldiers. All the while portraying Americans as their mortal enemy is books, tv, movies and video games.

                Chinese pianist visting with the China’s president Hu Jintao plays a victory song celebrating the Chinese routing Americns durring the Koren War while the willfully ignorant president and his administration listened and clapped him on.

                As Obama is on an Asain tour denouncing Chinese currency manipulation a missile was launched from a container ship or submarine off the coast of California in broad daylight while every news organization filmed it. This occured in November 2010 but 4 years and nearly to the day a Chinese sub surfaced right next to a US aircraft carrier durring war games as a show to the US military that China has the capability to stalk carriers undetected as China sees fit.

                China developing a system of anti access warfare capabilities to keep the United States military thousands of miles away. These include:
                ASAT missiles- anti satelitte missiles, only half a dozen and our military is deaf dumb and blind.
                EMP weapons to disble carriers, planes, radar and missile systems.
                df-21d missile- designed to hit American carriers up to 1,700 miles away flying at supersonic speeds in a zig zag pattern to avoid US countermeasures. Current;y we have no way to stop this missile. The aegis system is rendered useless.

                3000 miles of underground tunnels where it is estimated China keeps a mobile rail car sytem of nuclear warheads to strike the United States.

                China’s mapping of our critical civilian and defense infrastructure while leaving Trojan virus’s throughout the system. Something we still can’t rtemove.

                US drone fleet infected with a virus. Again we cannot wipe it away. Iran was able to systemiically take over drones, fly and then land them safely.

                China and Saudi Arabia are building in Saudi Arabia the biggest oil refinery in the world. Once completed China will trade for oil with Saudi Arabia and not use Petrodollars. Goodbye USD reserve currency.

                China and Russia agreeing to use their own currencies in trade bypassing USD.

                China and Japan agreeing to use their own currencies in trade bypassing USD.

                BRICS nations with China at the forefront prepare to form bank to replace IMF and bypass the SWIFT central banking and currency system in move to COMPLETLY bypass USD.

                Unrestricted Warfare- Read it

                Chi Hoatian speech- Read it

                Now we can discuss NWO and globalist conjecture all day beacause everybody has a different opinion and story when it comes to that. But what you can’t do is dismiss the FACTS i have laid out above.

                • Wolf: I agree. China is a dangerous adversary who pilfers everything they can from US; but so does Israel. Neither should be taken lightly.

                  But in the final analysis, China is on a course for a conspicuous consumption society and the CCP needs the American people to purchase Chinese goods and services to support their power base.

                  No one but Europe or America has enough consumers or a strong enough currency with enough purchasing power to support the Chinese economic baseline.

                  While they want to be “number 1” and will be simply because they will have the largest economy in the world, their population is aging even faster than OURs.

                  Those Chost Cities may become retirement communities and peasants from the interior may move into the manufacturing centers to take the jobs of those who retire to a Ghost City.

                  The CCP understand the principle of MAD. That is why they adopted “Wealth Is Glorious” as the new national motto.

                  OUR economies, are corporations, are entwined. WE are economic partners. Socially, China is a potential powder keg that would blow up in the face of the CCP if they can’t manage their economy.

          • China is COMING. Whether or not they’re falling from the skies or buying up all our big business and natural resources for pennies on the dollar after a massive USD devaluation remains to be seen. But make no bones about it, they will be here and their intentions will be malevolent.

            It is much more likely we will see a confrontaion over Iran or Syria and find ourselves pitted against China and Russia.

            Now it makes a whole lot of sense at the moment for China to continue buying up every resource they can with the USD reserves they hold and avoid a conflict until they are prepared to take that hit from a USD collapse or a military conflict with the United States. And as the article clearly laid out there is no doubt China has ramped up it’s efforts to sustain itself if all of a sudden their number one customer for cheap junk can no longer foot the bill.

            Consider then all the ghost cities laying empty across China. It is more than feasible that these massive metropolitan areas could soon be filled with millions of the poor Chinese who now are nothing more than slave labor. After a conflict with the United States or from a USD collapse China through their purchases of natural assets around the world and the tonnes AUX/AUG they have accumulated, they are poised to be a leading contender in a new world reserve currency or a major portion of a reserve basket of currencies.

            This would dramatically increase the value of the yuan and renmimbi and those tens of millions, triple the amount of the entire United States population would suddenly be able to buy tv’s, cellphones, refridgerators, microwaves etc…All the stuff we have but they’ll be the ones manufacturing them, selling, and using all of it. They won’t need anybody in the world other than to buy up their pysical assets and resources to keep their own population going.

            China’s massive social mobility would dwarf the rest of the worlds declining economies. So in the end they eventually dont need us and when there is a military conflict china has nearly 40 million more men than women who will never marry because of their one child policy they can throw at us since they don’t need them.

            Something to consider…

            • China does not follow a one-child policy, unless you happen to work for Government, and then you !allocate” the extras to non-government relatives. So any arguments that hinge on this “policy” are meaningless……………I live there. I know.

              • Roger Charelsworth,

                You claim:

                “China does not follow a one-child policy, unless you happen to work for Government, and then you !allocate” the extras to non-government relatives.”

                Why would one have to allocate extra children to other family members if you are allowed to have more than one child? You invalidated your point perfectly for me.

                It’s also a funny happenstance that China has 40 million more men than women. It has nothing to do with a 1 child policy right? Parents arent aborting (killing innocent girl babies in the womb) becasue they want they’re 1 and only child to be a boy!

                You claim you live there but your not in touch with how it really works over there. For instance you had it backwards, in China if you want to have more than one child you can pay a fine! The poor in China cannot afford the fine so they go to illegal means to hide their extra child or are forced to abort. This leaves the wealthy over there able to have as many kids as they would like.

            • Wolf: Yes China IS coming. They are coming for OUR banking deposits in OUR too big to fail, failing banks.

              Join a credit union so you do not have to support those commies profit margin!!! 🙂

          • China and Russia vote as a bloc in the UN against the US on a regular basis. Why would you think that the US at 300 million would be better than their own 1.2 billion? We are tissue paper to them. Use until the box is empty, then throw away for the next best place, India at 1.6 billion and roughly the same income(less 10-15%) as the US. Russia has almost no debt, so they have lots of free cash to use for Chinese goods.

            Sad to say it, but the US is on the decline phase of the rotation of goods. We are the “cash cow” for the moment, but the next step is the “dogs” for us.


        • Holder and Obama cant buy any more( funding issues, you know typical) to send to they decided to see if they could steal ours and give them to the Cartels , so they could get started with the Invasion..and take down..You cant tell me they didnt sit back, after all those guns went south of the border and not watch the body count rise..knowing part of thier plan and proof was hard at work.

          I have come to the conclusion, there is no compromise..and that these are scare tactics, and they aint going to work on me anymore..I will no longer play along with any BS they try to pass when It comes to my Rights, any of them..they do not have this power over this country , and they do not have this power over me.

          I will not answer to them. I will not allow them to tell me what I can or cannot posses when it comes to what I purchased legally, for they do not and were not given that privelage.
          Therefore I am no longer a subject, and never was.
          they can only enforce this lie if we let them, do not give them 1″

          Im going to ignore this craying baby, and let them see that thier fit, will not win them my attention.

          dogs bark and nip because they are scared and angry..and do not want to bite..but they want to defend territory

          Its when they suddenly stop nipping and barking is when the teeth set in.

          • @ VRF

            If we pay them tax stamps on the so called, Gun Ban Weapons, we only finance future attacks on the 2nDA. I will not do this. By a stroke of a pen, we all become criminals.

            • yup, you got it

            • I believe you understand correctly

            • @slingshot:

              ..we all become “outlaws”…….cool….BA….

              • A great number of the founders of this country were smugglers prior to the first shots of the Revolution. ALL became treasonous criminals who signed The Declaration of Independence.

                We will be in good company.

        • These have to be false flag events. All these shootings were done by individuals on psychotropic/psychiatric drugs, research it. So all the TPTB (whoever these players are) have to do is allow these drugs into the public domain through the FDA. People are given these drugs, then they go crazy and kill someone. Then it’s easy to go for the guns. Where is the outrage against Big Pharma, the FDA and members of Congress that accept campaign contributions from Big Pharma? We are the last country on the planet where The People have a right to arms, think about that. Everyone else has been disarmed.

        • Your thoughts on our 2nd admendment rights re very well written but they fall on deaf ears in DC They know the statics and could care less we the people mean nothing to them we are cattle. Cattle have no rights. Now if everyone would stay home for a week pay no federal taxes for that week. that would speak loud and clear. Or if our state goveners would grow a pair and tell DC no money you way by our citizens until you get your act together then that would speak. Until drastic actions from us they will continue to barrel on. We will not comply with any disarmment…

          • Cattle cant aim, and Cattle cant fight back..Im not thier Herd

        • Spot on BI, Everybody should defend and go on the offenssive with those arguments. I make those exact arguments myself when i’m called upon.

          There is aprox 100 million gun owning Americans and we are the lynch pin of the entire world. If we fail to keep our 2nd amendment right then all that is good in the world will fall into darkness. Our counry and freedom will be lost. Our allies in se asia will fall to China and western Europe will be over run with Russians.

          Western civilization is on the cusp of extinction and us few here in America hold the key to preserving our way of life for ourselves and our children. Losing the 2nd amendment means so much more than losing our guns. We lose freedom and light throughout the planet.

          Just look at the fall of Rome. It was followed by a 1000 year period called the Dark Ages. Plumbing had to be reinvented for heavens sake!

          Kiss every other amendment goodbye if the 2nd falls. The 2nd enshrines and empowers us to keep and use other rights. With out it we have nothing and neither will the world.

        • obama talked to china ,,china said,,disarm or else….so the mass shootings ramped,,interesting to see kerry in the news, his sister, i think,I read, led the UN into Australia, and then told CNN,,”the USA is next”….Australia got disarmed after a school shooting,,China is calling in their debt to the tune of our guns…………teach your children to strip dead bodies,,,this will be happening soon

        • When you have a president and certain key members of the Congress that hate the nation and it’s people this all makes sense. The enemy is inside the walls and well protected from exposure by the media and a brain dead population. If the drought continues this year things may get very grim by August.

        • “Without the U.S., countries of Europe are steamrolled over by Russian, Chinese, and other Eastern Coaliation forces. Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and all other countries fall quickly without the United States.” Are you SERIOUS or just DELUDED?

          • Roger Charlesworth,

            Unlike you I provide facts to back up my arguments. Why don’t you do the same and we can have an intelligent debate about it. I am serious and so are many others even in our own military and governemtn because we are pulling out of the middle east and pivoting towards asia. It is quite obvious you are the one who is delusional. Bring some facts and we can have an adult conversation, until then i will focus my energies elsewhere so i can try and help people prepare for the ills which face our great nation.

        • .Amen to that.

        • If you go to YouTube and use their search for the title: “China Launches Rocket” you will see a video of 14:53 min, dated 6 months ago. If you slide the bar to 11 minutes and watch the space program observe the backround of OUR sun and a very large blue planetoid led and followed by two moons/planets/stars? you might get an idea of why they need all these supplies. Preparation is half the battle. Que, que se NIBIRU small solar system with 7 planets? Seach Herculobus, Nibiru, and see China stumbled on one of the US highly guarded secrets against their people. Disclosure of Heavenly bodies headed this way. Chinese won’t hide this from their people and ergo, the reason why US won’t translate their news in english. You can bet you last bippy, they are translating our news. I found the visual of several views of this, simply amazing. The large planet or dwarf blue sun? is larger than Jupiter.
          Enjoy the show of the launch, and after the last booster release and clear assurance of separation, the military space center has shots of the backround sun/universe and it’s so visible and beautiful.

        • Question: If our government can see these behaviors by Russia and China, which have beeen going on for the past several years, why are they pushing to disarm the citizens? Our arms make the US a more formidable adversary for all but nuclear weapons.
          So is the government unable to read what civilians can read by these bahaviors or are they part of the plan? If they wanted a one world government, a commiunist government, wouldn’t they see Russia and China as potential allies in their goals? And then armed citizens would be a roadblock to their goal.
          Obama is communist. He is not a US citizen. So who worked so hard to get him into the whitehouse looking like a President? And why? If our government does not respond well to the potential threats of the day, responds to internal “threats” rather then external threats, couldn’t they actually weaken us and set us up to be taken over?
          TROJAN HORSE = president, cabinet and many of congress who are clearly socialist/communist in their dealings and support of issues.

          • Great question. It’s a long answer but I think this can sum it up. Look at everything obama has done. As a whole everything and I mean everything has weakened us or made us appear weak. Then ask, is he the most unluckiest president ever to hold office and was it all failed good intentions or is it more likely something more sinister is at play?

          • Didn’t this site contain a post about a year ago that had a russian retired general saying the US would have civil war and break apart? Maybe he was letting us know part of the plan. Break the US apart by civil war and then proceed with invasion or OWG. Use gun control to break us apart.
            United we stand. Divided we fall.

            • C,

              Look up Chi hoatian speech. He was a leading Chinese general and has a mass following of younger Chinese since this speech.

        • In terms of the Chinese, read or listen to the “Art of War” online – they are not so inscrutable after that. The word among US Police, Reserve and Military is “on stand-by” for civil unrest triggered by financial collapse within 3-6 months. I doubt the Chinese will become aggressive yet; they just want to be able to sit it out while we go to hell – they are “prepping.”

        • 200 years ago the tyranny being fought was not armed with emf weapons, or depleted uranium weapons, or drones, or robots, or biological, chem weapons…. i could go on, but…. don’t want to scare ya!
          as much as i support our need for the 2nd amendment to enforce the 1st, we are in a catch 22 when the weapons we posess are children’s toys compared to what the us govt has, or china’s for that matter…
          china has been a looming dragon for years now. we never should have opened up trade to them. we have put ourselves at their mercy and they know it… what good are our weapons against 3 billion armed spoiled rotten only child brainwashed soliders of china- the US or UN for that matter? I am not endorsing any gun control at all here, i just ask a logical question i’ve asked ever since i was a kid, and knew there were pro gun and anti- gun parties in this country, as well as weapons beyond the craziest imaginings of a raving madman…. China has openly said that they’d love to see stricter gun control in the US… why? the answer might be clearer than you’d be willing to accept.
          whether china is preparing for massive inflation, or a land war, it is vitally important for us citizens to be aware. While our govt twiddles it’s thumbs over the financal crisis, and blows up it’s anti gun campaign, any blind person can see the shit smeared all over this….

          yes we ought to be doing the same, to any capacity you can.

          heard a speech from long island about what they want the state and federal govt’s to do to prepare for events like sandy (the hurricane, not the shooting) talked about how long it took to get any federal $ and how they didn’t get what they wanted, in the middle of the biggest fiasco of a finicial crisis the world has ever seen. and as much as i feel for those who lost everything, why didn’t they have a plan, a small stockpile, drew water when they knew the storm was on its way, a bugout bag SOMETHING?! i live on the other side of the state, and i had all these things lined up just in case!!!we knew it was going to be BAD! why do so many people think it’s the govt’s job to take care of you? you think if china/ russia started a land war with the us, that our soliders would be ordered to protect citizens, or infastructure? you think if gun control laws go into affect we’d have a fighting chance were that to happen?

          Thanks for sharing this info mac…. important serious stuff i’ve been trying to keep up on as well.

        • Whats the best way to increace weapon sale to puplic in Us?? By making people think that government plans to bann assault guns… It worked.

        • “Why buy gold when, as Federal Reserve Chairmen Ben Bernanke suggests, it is not real money?”
          Lmaoo! If only Ben could print Gold! 🙂

      2. Most of us are doing the same. The world is getting crazier more rapidly every day. Lets see if Obummer signs an EO to ban or take guns.

        • Steve

          Biden just came out and stated that exactly!!!

          President Obama is considering an executive order on guns, although he didn’t specify what it would be.

          “The President is going to act, there are executive orders, executive action that can be taken. We haven’t decided what that is yet. But we’re compiling it all with the help of the Attorney General and all the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action, we believe is required,” said Biden.


          • obama will ban imports like bush one did.

          • possee,

            “The President is going to act, there are executive orders, executive action that can be taken. We haven’t decided what that is yet. But we’re compiling it all with the help of the Attorney General and all the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action, we believe is required,” said Biden.

            This is code for,

            The anointed one is going to take away your second amendment right and screw you if you don’t like it. We really do know what it will be but we ain’t telling you sheeple yet, because we don’t have to. With the help of the tax cheating lyeing piece of crap attorney general and the psychopathic, cowardly, greedy cabinet members, as well as up your ass legislation action that we will require you to obey or else.

            I say, bring it on bitches, you have no idea how the waiting giant will respond. This country isn’t all yours yet.

            As for China, it makes perfect sense, they are getting prepared and you can bet that every leader of every country knows exactly what is coming, including the anointed one.

            • WHO UH…
              Woof woof.
              Target the ‘leaders’.

            • On the outside looking in, it appears the administration/Ostupid has sold us out to China..knowing the nation is defenseless if weapons are removed from the homes.
              I’m confused.

          • I believe the Treasury secretary can ban imports. With Obama’s new Orthodox mafia kike replacement Jacob Jew up for the job I’m sure he will follow the tribe party line. Now go back to sleep goyim or you’ll be called anti semite.

            • @ JRS


              As far as being an anti-Semite? Well let’s just say I have nothing against the Arabs, provided they leave me & mine alone!

              However, I am definitely an anti-Khazar, anti-zionist hating SAXON and damn proud to be such!

              • JRS & ANTON!! For Shame! both of youse! And for Both of your pennence you two Must sit still and watch 10 hrs each of TV’s TBN and John Hagge preacher shows!

                Pay strict atten too as there Will be a Test afterwards!

                heh heh!! Angelo=Proud keltic Warrior class, also not too fond of Evil Khazer filth.

          • I think Obama is running for the First American Dictatorship. The good thing is it now makes BOTH legislative Houses redundant. Think of the huge savings THAT will bring about…………….

        • You can’t eat a gun, nor can you live in one or build with one. All you can do with a gun, when the shtf, is take others stuff for not listening, or preparing. Others have guns to protect their beans, dry rice, and canned meats for protein, so go ahead and fill up your stomach on the gun and chew the bullets carefully for iron.

          Don’t you know that it’s only a month away before the planet crossing? Youtube China Launches Rocket and at 11 minutes, pay very close attention to our sun’s viewing and what was in the right 1 o’clock position, six months ago.

          God speed on the veil lifting and ptw will not be victorious, but the meek who know how to survive on low staples.
          No bread, use crackers to fill up and plenty of soups.

      3. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck….

        • Pretty much.

          What China is doing makes perfect sense, especially given the soaring debt levels of practically everyone else of any power.

          I don’t think it’ll quite end in war, though. China is, and has been for centuries, not really anxious to expand much of anything beyond their locale.

          Here’s their sitrep: They’re surrounded by either massive oceans, monster mountain ranges (including the Himalayas), massive deserts, or, well, Siberia. It sort of presents a natural border. Their only real desired acquisition is Taiwan (which was originally part of China anyway, until Chang Kai-Shek retreated to it during Mao’s rise to power). They already got Hong Kong back. They pretty much own and influence Indonesia (Vietnam, Cambodia, et al), so no need to go that way for much. To top it all off, they have a not-so-good navy, and likely intend to keep it that way. The only historical antagonism they can point to is Japan (courtesy of WWII, now almost 70 years past), which keeps to itself these days. They still have enough natural resources to keep everyone fed, and a population curve that will start dropping in the next 20 years as the demographics start crashing.

          Long story short? They’re looking after their own, and not much else.

          Russia? They’re actually doing okay, relatively speaking.

          The EU? That would be something to keep an eye on, given that desperate nations tend to do stupid things, and that the period of *relative* peace from 1945 to today is an aberration, not the norm? Umm, yeah.

          • Exactly!!! China is not going anywhere to start a war unless its a border war. Even then its doubtful

          • Don’t know about the rice other than the world supplies are obviously in decline and there is one hell of a drought going on, etc.

            Regarding the baby food, I have a good friend who is Chinese and he was contacted by some of his friends in China to have him send them baby food. When I asked him why, he said they are having a problem over there with the quality of the baby food and the female friend requesting the food was scared to feed it to her baby — remember the one child policy — and their standard of living is high enough now that shipping it all the way to China is not that a big deal for them.

        • IT may walk like a duck sooner than we think…

          The 20th Amendment says the Presidential Inaugaration be held on January 20th at noon.

          Not this year!

          Obama is having a private swearing in party that day instead of the inauguration swearing in and speech.




          When every white person in the country gets pissed off and say things like “THAT WHITE PIECE OF SHIT”, a race war, civil war is born.

          Just saying…more than likely.

          What do you think?

          • Time to admit that we now have our own Fidel in charge. Wonder when he will arrest the useless Stupid party and have them sent off to who knows where.

          • Iowa, Obama has always defied tradition. Always. His rigid defiance is predictable.

            As it has been said here before, when will we all learn to play chess?

      4. People have to be forcibly keeping their heads in the sand not to see the writing on the wall.

        Time to follow China’s lead and get our own personal 4 year supplies!

        • You’re a Daisy if you do! *wink*

          Working on building mine everyday.

          Of course they are building up supplies for something. The U.S. has been on a bunker-building frenzy for the past few years. Now stocking MREs and ammo.

          It’s in the wind, folks. Bet on it.

        • +1 Daisy

          They are planning for a world wide economic collapse and I don’t think war (with us) is in their plans unless we provoke them.

          • That’s why they are hoarding gold like there is no tomorrow,

            • Cant recall the guys name now?..he was on RT news interview few days ago, and is one of the online kinda famous economics guys. Like shiff only Not him.

              Think he actually resides full time in china, and he was talking of how recent troubles there were Riots in a city of 12 Million people!…he said china govnt had hands full trying to quell it and wasn’t able to do so swell a job neither.

              He said alot of current problems we never get told of by usa msm is going on on a reg basis in china. Especially employment related troubles and vast lay offs etc.

              I think with so many people to deal with china has its hands full already and aint looking to conquer any large powerfull nations anytime too soon.

              One new super sized aircraft carrier shown on tv recently said china is makeing them ships out of Cement. Due to less costly. So far with last 100 yrs history and more like 2000 yr history for Them its the EU euro nations who probobly are more potential problems.

              George washington called euro countries always waring and quibling troublsome countries america be better off Not dealing with except in free and Fair trade of goods etc…

              Not alot has changed with euro states since washingtons days eh. They swindled usa into Two huge Unnessasry wars.

              WWI and WWjew(II) and alot more crap since. I’d rather see america be more nationalistic as when we was small kids and concentrate in fixin stuf Here and screw them other nations and all the cash we supply to em all.

        • @D +100. Watching the cascade from Texas.

          Note to self: my piece of Texas is known for ammo supply shortages in certain calipers in Nov, Dec…. we are hunters. Why is the local big box stores still out of my new love .380 metal tossing stuff? I ask this of the big-box store guy with a reply to him – You don’t hunt deer, feral pigs with .380 when he stated why the shelves where were bare of ALL ammo…. “it’s hunting season”.
          I would have taken a picture except I don’t have one of those SMART PHONES. I think mine is smarter – it just rings and I say ‘hello’.

          • Academy in Houston area/s carries good selection of all types
            of ammo… they have website…….just FYI…


          • Just heard that Wal-mart will be taping people when they buy guns and save the viseo. Why? Paperwork is not enough?

            • Walmart is part of the gestapo-problem. Who would support Walmart at this point? (Would you shoot yourself in your foot?)

        • Yes indeed, Daisy. Strong and steady it goes.

          And folks, it’s seed buying time! Do not delay! Look for open-pollinated seeds. Learn which seeds will not loose viability and stock up. (Some seeds lose their viability in 1-2 years, like onion seeds.)

          If you have a suburban plot of ground and not a great deal of space, plant an edible garden. Grow veggies with your flowers. Or grow veggies that produce flowers. Grow vertically!! Catch your rainwater! Get a few rabbits to provide the manure for your future gardens and grow some meat too.

          • I have had good luck with Seed Savers Exchange for open pollinated seeds. They also have a forum…if you know me really well, you can figure out who I am there. 🙂 Just google seedsavers and you will find them.

            I organized my shoebox full of seeds a couple of days ago. I have a lot of seeds, and a lot of corn, beans and potatoes that I may just save for planting rather than cooking. And yes, Zoltanne, the viability of seeds is important. I will drop in a link below for one chart below.

              • Good find — that’s not a bad little chart! Hope folks go here and take notes just in case.

            • Hey there Mama Bear, have you checked the prices at Baker Creek Heirlooms? They sell many of the same seeds found at SSE, only much cheaper! (Even with the member discount)

              You can find them at rareseeds dot com

              I’m a member at SSE but don’t post. I think you’re the “Ms Bear” that posted an outstanding piece over at Rawles site. Am I right?

      5. Perhaps, just perhaps, they are stockpiling rice because of the extremely bitter winter they have had.. although I doubt it. We, meaning our government, has almost completed the transfer of knowledge to them. Just a decade or a little more ago, they couldn’t produce any product much more advanced than late 60’s or early 70’s technology. Now they have mastered lasers ( thanks to building DVD players for us ) and will soon begin interplanetary explorations ( Mars shot ). The list goes on and on. We have allowed them to progress, we have transfered not only our wealth, but our technology to them. What do they need us for anyway ? ( now ?)
        They see that our recently re-elected leadership is gutting our military, bankrupting our nation ( in all ways ) and is little more than whining children on the world stage. Sorry folks.. elections have consequences. They know that they have very little to fear from us now.. look out Japan. Watch your back Korea. Times aren’t changing, they HAVE changed.

      6. Stock piling food—check
        Stock piling ammo—Check
        Stock piling other essential items—check
        Live at least 4 hours away from a major city—check
        Scared as Hell for my family—Check
        Waiting for the return of Christ—Check and double Check
        Know where I am spending eternity if the above doesn’t happen when I like it to—Check,Check, and check again

        • amen easttenn

        • Outstanding. Amen

        • I to am beyond ready. We are over here in Dickson TN an hour west of Nashville. You can’t go to our walmart now and get ANY ammo. They have been sold out since the fairy tale of sandyhook. Yes be prepared we are not far off now before the SHTF.

        • Really? The return of Christ?!? Double Check?! What nonsense.

          He ain’t gonna’ levitate down from the clouds and save you…

          Heaven is a lie perpetuated by the elites of the ages to keep their populations hoping and working but never really fully getting…

          • yeah well, whats the safe bet smart guy? bet there is a Creator and eternity, or to bet against it? think hard now.

      7. Juss keep an eye on ‘ol George ‘n Jeb. When they skaditts to Paraguay, you’ll know the jig is up.

      8. I’m sure it’s all a coincidence. Gotta get back to American Idol.

        • NB,
          Love that show! It is almost as good as the new one about the guy with 11 kids and ten babymammas. (sarc)

          THis is not the event you are looking for, move along.

      9. Daisy

        Agreed. They have also stepped up their fishing operations, I will look for a link to the article I read earlier this week.

        Something’s afoot

        Take care

      10. Of course we shouldn’t be doing the same. That would make us terrorists.

        We should watch American Idol, spend money on Ipods, Ipads, Iphones, XBox’s, Playstations in the evenings and jump up in overwhelming enjoyment when an overpaid athlete runs over a stripe on Sundays.

        Nothing like this could happen here, we are too civilized, right?

        Oops, sorry, dropped my tinfoil hat (not 7 3/4, but close!) just put it back on.

        I suggest we invest in Icarry, Ishoot and Ieat.

        2013 is shaping up to be a very interesting year indeed.

        God Bless,

        (Please note the sarcasm before hitting the red thumb!)

        • everyone should have a tinfoil hat…and a gun

          • I-carry, I-shoot, I-eat. I love it.

      11. Move along everyone, nothing going on here.Everything is fine.amazing

      12. Stockpile on…

        Makes no since to have much cash laying around anymore, I already have my supply of toilet paper.

        May as well spend it on necessities…

        • Ill be wiping my ass with politicians suits!

          • That won’t change the “smell” if they continue to wear them…but it is a nice gesture!

      13. If there was a nuclear war, you’d need more than a stockpile of food to survive. Would China be crazy enough to use nukes? We owe them a lot of money, so what good would it do to destroy the main things that we have of value, i.e. real estate and natural resources. It seems likely that they are preparing for an economic collapse in the western countries. They are smart to spend their foreign currencies now before inflation hits too hard. My guess is that they are making sensible preparations for an almost certain economic collapse. The Chinese are preppers.

        • pavan
          they wouldnt have to nuke us that way,,a few well placed EMPs we are done i think,,we being the gov.


          • But we must not forget, wherever they nuke/EMP, nuclear plants will become inoperable–right??
            Would that not destroy half this nation’s soil, water resources?/

            • JJ: if nukes does such devestation for 10,000 yrs as we was told…How is it that Two major cities of Japan was rebuilt and inhabited promptly after WWII?

              Pics I seen of one of them two citys, heroshima?…Looks alot like a future jetsons cartoon city in Real life.

              Millions of japs lives there also and None glow in dark yet…Hmmmmm…Maybe we was Again lied to on nuke aftermaths eh?

              • i have been sent images of that futuristic japanese city you refer to. it is not hiroshima nor is it nagasaki but in fact yokohama which was firebombed.

        • I think the Chinese would be prudent enough to use neutron bombs, if they decided to take physical payment on their investment. They tend to be very intelligent…and they think 20 moves ahead on the chessboard, while our so called leaders are sticking the rook up their nose and pawning the knights, to make a bad pun.

          Come to think of it, they are probably actually playing Go, chess being somewhat barbaric, inelegant, and strategically simplistic by comparison.

        • Neutron bombs not a lot of local physical damage, all things being relative of course, we’re talking about nukes still and not a lot of persistent localized radiation released. But an ass load of deaths.

        • Pravan: They won’t nuke the bread basket of the world and nobody else will ether. OH I forgot N K and the Muslims would sorry, but everyone else no.

          • “They won’t nuke the bread basket of the world and nobody else will ether.”

            Well thats one thing less I have to worry about then.

          • Hey pale rider, You still believe the farce that Muslims did 911?? I feel sorry for you, your own masters you call your leaders were behind the whole thing.

        • Maybe the Chinese have bought the country. They have to make room for the new owners. Maybe that is what the 1.4 billion hollow points are for. Interesting.

      14. Soon it will be time for a gut check, where do you stand, where do you fall, stomach hurts, hands sweat, feel like a fool. hope I have the courage. No one knows till the horn blows

        • paranoid….I hope I have the courage I think I do when the balloon goes up also…

          • Hold steady Steve, this is about freedom and liberty and the future of our country for our’ll be fine!

      15. Excellent article Mac! I hope this awakens more people to the Chinese threat. I posted exhaustively about this issue the other day. I like to look at the Chinese military, economic and industrial build up akin to the game if Risk. Its they’re turn, they just watched the former big players fIght and weaken themselves to the point of collapse and they’re about to explode and roll out over whatever is left on the map!

        As a follow up you should post a transcript of Chi Haotian’s speech on the future of China!

        • The secret ingredient is Kamchatka, I have learned.

        • Is that the one that speaks of biowarfare/chemical warfare to take us out??

          • Yes it is. Just search chi haotian. There’s boatloads of credible news orgs who covered it .

      16. What a bunch of hogwash, everything is going to be ok because barry was reelected. The media tells me so and they wouldn’t lie would they???



          Dear Leader
          Who art in DC
          Barry is your name.

          Your kindgdom, dumb
          your brain is numb,
          On earth, as it is in Chicago

          (I am a Christian and mean no disrespect to Christ or The Father)

          Give us this day, our EBT cards
          and forgives us for ever voting conservative.
          Teach us to hate America.

          Lead us now,into Communism
          and deliver us from Liberty,

          For YOU are The State, and have all of the power and glory, forever and ever. amen.

      17. And they are buying up houses here like there is no tomorrow… hey wait do they know something we don’t? The yellow hoards are coming get ready for Charlie part 3D!!! Aren’t you glad you have something solid to cling to during these troubled times AND the Good Lord ? Never surrender your God given right to Respond to the threat and Protect your home and loved ones.

      18. My two cents: Spending dollars while they still buy something physical.

        • My two cents goes with yours.

          They know ( as does anyone with half a brain) the US dollar isn’t much longer for this world, and rather than be stuck with a huge pile of them, they’re easing toward the exit door…..turning them into anything of a useful nature while the suckers still take them.

          Take note if you still have a 401k or any other pile of savings in US bucks.

      19. New cities. Food storage. Stockpiling base metals typically used in construction. They are planning on a lot if people moving, a lot of new construction, and shortages of food. They are preparing for the effects of climate change.

        • I can not yet rate this comment.

          Can’t tell if the post is really dumb, or great humor with tounge in cheek.

      20. Best article against gun bans: by larry correia45

        I didn’t want to post about this, because frankly, it is exhausting. I’ve
        been having this exact same argument for my entire adult life. It is not an
        exaggeration when I say that I know pretty much exactly every single thing
        an anti-gun person can say. I’ve heard it over and over, the same old tired
        stuff, trotted out every single time there is a tragedy on the news that can
        be milked. Yet, I got sucked in, and I’ve spent the last few days arguing
        with people who either mean well but are uninformed about gun laws and how
        guns actually work (who I don’t mind at all), or the willfully ignorant (who
        I do mind), or the obnoxiously stupid who are completely incapable of any
        critical thinking deeper than a Facebook meme (them, I can’t stand).
        Today’s blog post is going to be aimed at the first group. I am going to try
        to go through everything I’ve heard over the last few days, and try to break
        it down from my perspective. My goal tonight is to write something that my
        regular readers will be able to share with their friends who may not be as
        familiar with how mass shootings or gun control laws work.
        A little background for those of you who don’t know me, and this is going to
        be extensive so feel free to skip the next few paragraphs, but I need to
        establish the fact that I know what I am talking with, because I am sick and
        tired of my opinion having the same weight as a person who learned
        everything they know about guns and violence from watching TV.
        I am now a professional novelist. However, before that I owned a gun store.
        We were a Title 7 SOT, which means we worked with legal machineguns,
        suppresors, and pretty much everything except for explosives. We did law
        enforcement sales and worked with equipment that is unavailable from most
        dealers, but that means lots and lots of government inspections and
        compliance paperwork. This means that I had to be exceedingly familiar with
        federal gun laws, and there are a lot of them. I worked with many companies
        in the gun industry and still have many friends and contacts at various
        manufacturers. When I hear people tell me the gun industry is unregulated, I
        have to resist the urge to laugh in their face.
        I was also a Utah Concealed Weapons instructor, and was one of the busiest
        instructors in the state. That required me to learn a lot about self-defense
        laws, and because I took my job very seriously, I sought out every bit of
        information that I could. My classes were longer than the standard Utah
        class, and all of that extra time was spent on Use of Force, shoot/no shoot
        scenarios, and role playing through violent encounters. I have certified
        thousands of people to carry guns.
        I have been a firearms instructor, and have taught a lot of people how to
        shoot defensively with handguns, shotguns, and rifles. For a few years of my
        life, darn near every weekend was spent at the range. I started out as an
        assistant for some extremely experienced teachers and I also had the
        opportunity to be trained by some of the most accomplished firearms experts
        in the world. The man I stole most of my curriculum from was a Lieutenant
        Colonel in the Army Special Forces, turned federal agent SWAT team
        commander. I took classes in everything from wound ballistics (10 hours of
        looking at autopsy slides) to high-speed cool-guy door-kicking stuff. I’ve
        worked extensively with military and law enforcement personnel, including
        force on force training where I played the OpFor (i.e. I got to be the bad
        guy, because I make an awesome bad guy. You tell me how evil/capable you
        want me to be, and how hard you want your men to work, and I’d make it
        happen, plus I can take a beating). Part of this required learning how mass
        shooters operate and studying the heck out of the actual events.
        I have been a competition shooter. I competed in IPSC, IDPA, and 3gun. It
        was not odd for me to reload and shoot 1,000 rounds in any given week. I
        fired 20,000 rounds of .45 in one August alone. I’ve got a Remington 870
        with approximately 160,000 rounds through it. I’ve won matches, and I’ve
        been able to compete with some of the top shooters in the country. I am a
        very capable shooter. I only put this here to convey that I know how
        shooting works better than the vast majority of the populace.
        I have written for national publications on topics relating to gun law and
        use of force. I wrote for everything from the United States Concealed Carry
        Association to SWAT magazine. I was considered a subject matter expert at
        the state level, and on a few occasions was brought in to testify before the
        Utah State Legislature on the ramifications of proposed gun laws. I’ve
        argued with lawyers, professors, professional lobbyists, and once made a
        state rep cry.
        Basically for most of my adult life, I have been up to my eyeballs in guns,
        self-defense instruction, and the laws relating to those things. So believe
        me when I say that I’ve heard every argument relating to gun control
        possible. It is pretty rare for me to hear something new, and none of this
        stuff is new.
        Armed Teachers
        So now that there is a new tragedy the president wants to have a “national
        conversation on guns”. Here’s the thing. Until this national conversation is
        willing to entertain allowing teachers to carry concealed weapons, then it
        isn’t a conversation at all, it is a lecture.
        Now when I say teachers carrying concealed weapons on Facebook I immediately
        get a bunch of emotional freak out responses. You can’t mandate teachers be
        armed! Guns in every classroom! Emotional response! Blood in the streets!
        No. Hear me out. The single best way to respond to a mass shooter is with an
        immediate, violent response. The vast majority of the time, as soon as a
        mass shooter meets serious resistance, it bursts their fantasy world bubble.
        Then they kill themselves or surrender. This has happened over and over
        Police are awesome. I love working with cops. However any honest cop will
        tell you that when seconds count they are only minutes away. After Colombine
        law enforcement changed their methods in dealing with active shooters. It
        used to be that you took up a perimeter and waited for overwhelming force
        before going in. Now usually as soon as you have two officers on scene you
        go in to confront the shooter (often one in rural areas or if help is going
        to take another minute, because there are a lot of very sound tactical
        reasons for using two, mostly because your success/survival rates jump
        dramatically when you put two guys through a door at once. The shooter’s
        brain takes a moment to decide between targets). The reason they go fast is
        because they know that every second counts. The longer the shooter has to
        operate, the more innocents die.
        However, cops can’t be everywhere. There are at best only a couple hundred
        thousand on duty at any given time patrolling the entire country. Excellent
        response time is in the three-five minute range. We’ve seen what bad guys
        can do in three minutes, but sometimes it is far worse. They simply can’t
        teleport. So in some cases that means the bad guys can have ten, fifteen,
        even twenty minutes to do horrible things with nobody effectively fighting
        So if we can’t have cops there, what can we do?
        The average number of people shot in a mass shooting event when the shooter
        is stopped by law enforcement: 14. The average number of people shot in a
        mass shooting event when the shooter is stopped by civilians: 2.5. The
        reason is simple. The armed civilians are there when it started.
        The teachers are there already. The school staff is there already. Their
        reaction time is measured in seconds, not minutes. They can serve as your
        immediate violent response. Best case scenario, they engage and stop the
        attacker, or it bursts his fantasy bubble and he commits suicide. Worst case
        scenario, the armed staff provides a distraction, and while he’s
        concentrating on killing them, he’s not killing more children.
        But teachers aren’t as trained as police officers! True, yet totally
        irrelevant. The teacher doesn’t need to be a SWAT cop or Navy SEAL. They
        need to be speed bumps.
        But this leads to the inevitable shrieking and straw man arguments about
        guns in the classroom, and then the pacifistic minded who simply can’t
        comprehend themselves being mandated to carry a gun, or those that believe
        teachers are all too incompetent and can’t be trusted. Let me address both
        at one time.
        Don’t make it mandatory. In my experience, the only people who are worth a
        darn with a gun are the ones who wish to take responsibility and carry a
        gun. Make it voluntary. It is rather simple. Just make it so that your
        state’s concealed weapons laws trump the Federal Gun Free School Zones act.
        All that means is that teachers who voluntarily decide to get a concealed
        weapons permit are capable of carrying their guns at work. Easy. Simple.
        Cheap. Available now.
        Then they’ll say that this is impossible, and give me all sorts of terrible
        worst case scenarios about all of the horrors that will happen with a gun in
        the classroom… No problem, because this has happened before. In fact, my
        state laws allow for somebody with a concealed weapons permit to carry a gun
        in a school right now. Yes. Utah has armed teachers. We have for several
        years now.
        When I was a CCW instructor, I decided that I wanted more teachers with skin
        in the game, so I started a program where I would teach anybody who worked
        at a school for free. No charge. Zip. They still had to pay the state for
        their background check and fingerprints, but all the instruction was free. I
        wanted more armed teachers in my state.
        I personally taught several hundred teachers. I quickly discovered that
        pretty much every single school in my state had at least one competent,
        capable, smart, willing individual. Some schools had more. I had one high
        school where the principal, three teachers, and a janitor showed up for
        class. They had just had an event where there had been a threat against the
        school and their resource officer had turned up AWOL. This had been a wake
        up call for this principal that they were on their own, and he had taken it
        upon himself to talk to his teachers to find the willing and capable. Good
        for them.
        After Virginia Tech, I started teaching college students for free as well.
        They were 21 year old adults who could pass a background check. Why should
        they have to be defenseless? None of these students ever needed to stop a
        mass shooting, but I’m happy to say that a couple of rapists and muggers
        weren’t so lucky, so I consider my time well spent.
        Over the course of a couple years I taught well over $20,000 worth of free
        CCW classes. I met hundreds and hundreds of teachers, students, and staff.
        All of them were responsible adults who understood that they were stuck in
        target rich environments filled with defenseless innocents. Whether they
        liked it or not, they were the first line of defense. It was the least I
        could do.
        Permit holders are not cops. The mistake many people make is that they think
        permit holders are supposed to be cops or junior danger rangers. Not at all.
        Their only responsibility is simple. If someone is threatening to cause them
        or a third person serious bodily harm, and that someone has the ability,
        opportunity, and is acting in a manner which suggest they are a legitimate
        threat, then that permit holder is allowed to use lethal force against them.

        As of today the state legislatures of Texas, Tennessee, and Oklahoma are
        looking at revamping their existing laws so that there can be legal guns in
        school. For those that are worried these teachers will be unprepared, I’m
        sure there would be no lack of instructors in those states who’d be willing
        to teach them for free.
        For everyone, if you are sincere in your wish to protect our children, I
        would suggest you call your state representative today and demand that they
        allow concealed carry in schools.
        Gun Free Zones
        Gun Free Zones are hunting preserves for innocent people. Period.
        Think about it. You are a violent, homicidal madman, looking to make a
        statement and hoping to go from disaffected loser to most famous person in
        the world. The best way to accomplish your goals is to kill a whole bunch of
        people. So where’s the best place to go shoot all these people? Obviously,
        it is someplace where nobody can shoot back.
        In all honesty I have no respect for anybody who believes Gun Free Zones
        actually work. You are going to commit several hundred felonies, up to and
        including mass murder, and you are going to refrain because there is a sign?
        That No Guns Allowed sign is not a cross that wards off vampires. It is
        wishful thinking, and really pathetic wishful thinking at that.
        The only people who obey No Guns signs are people who obey the law. People
        who obey the law aren’t going on rampages.
        I testified before the Utah State Legislature about the University of Utah’s
        gun ban the day after the Trolley Square shooting in Salt Lake City. Another
        disaffected loser scumbag started shooting up this mall. He killed several
        innocent people before he was engaged by an off duty police officer who just
        happened to be there shopping. The off duty Ogden cop pinned down the
        shooter until two officers from the SLCPD came up from behind and killed the
        shooter. (turned out one of them was a customer of mine) I sent one of my
        employees down to Trolley Square to take a picture of the shopping center’s
        front doors. I then showed the picture to the legislators. One of the rules
        was NO GUNS ALLOWED.
        The man that attacked the midnight showing of Batman didn’t attack just any
        theater. There were like ten to choose from. He didn’t attack the closest.
        It wasn’t about biggest or smallest. He attacked the one that was posted NO
        There were four mass killing attempts this week. Only one made the news
        because it helped the agreed upon media narrative.
        1. Oregon. NOT a gun free zone. Shooter confronted by permit holder. Shooter
        commits suicide. Only a few casualties.
        2. Texas. NOT a gun free zone. Shooter killed immediately by off duty cop.
        Only a few casualties.
        3. Connecticut. GUN FREE ZONE. Shooters kills until the police arrive.
        Suicide. 26 dead.
        4. China. GUN FREE COUNTRY. A guy with a KNIFE stabs 22 children.
        And here is the nail in the coffin for Gun Free Zones. Over the last fifty
        years, with only one single exception (Gabby Giffords), every single mass
        shooting event with more than four casualties has taken place in a place
        where guns were supposedly not allowed.
        The Media
        Every time there is a mass shooting event, the vultures launch. I find it
        absolutely fascinating. A bunch of people get murdered, and the same usual
        suspects show up with the same tired proposals that we’ve either tried
        before or logic tells us simply will not work. They strike while the iron is
        hot, trying to push through legislation before there can be coherent
        thought. We’ve seen this over and over and over again. We saw it succeed in
        England. We saw it succeed in Australia. We’ve seen it succeed here before.
        Yet when anyone from my side responds, then we are shouted at that we are
        blood thirsty and how dare we speak in this moment of tragedy, and we should
        just shut our stupid mouths out of respect for the dead, while they are free
        to promote policies which will simply lead to more dead… If the NRA says
        something they are bloodthirsty monsters, and if they don’t say something
        then their silence is damning guilt. It is hypocritical in the extreme, and
        when I speak out against this I am called every name in the book, I want
        dead children, I’m a cold hearted monster (the death threats are actually
        hilarious). If I become angry because they are promoting policies which are
        tactically flawed and which will do the exact opposite of the stated goals,
        then I am a horrible person for being angry. Perhaps I shouldn’t be allowed
        to own guns at all.
        But that’s not why I want to talk about the media. I want to talk about the
        media’s effect on the shooters.
        Put yourself in the shoes of one of these killers. One nice thing about
        playing the villain and being a punching bag for cops, soldiers, and permit
        holders is that you need to learn about how the bad guys think and operate.
        And most of the mass shooters fit a similar profile.
        The vast majority (last I saw it was over 80%) are on some form of
        psychotropic drug and has been for many years. They have been on Zoloft or
        some serotonin inhibitor through their formative years, and their decision
        making process is often flawed. They are usually disaffected, have been
        bullied, pushed around, and have a lot of emotional problems. They are
        delusional. They see themselves as victims, and they are usually striking
        back at their peer group.
        These people want to make a statement. They want to show the world that they
        aren’t losers. They want to make us understand their pain. They want to make
        their peer group realize that they are powerful. They’ll show us. The
        solution is easy. It’s right there in front of your nose.
        If you can kill enough people at one time, you’ll be on the news, 24/7,
        round the clock coverage. You will become the most famous person in the
        world. Everyone will know your name. You become a celebrity. Experts will
        try to understand what you were thinking. Hell, the President of the United
        States, the most important man in the world, will drop whatever he is doing
        and hold a press conference to talk about your actions, and he’ll even shed
        a single manly tear.
        You are a star.
        Strangely enough, this is one of the only topics I actually agree with Roger
        Ebert on. He didn’t think that the news should cover the shooters or mention
        their names on the front page of the paper. So whenever the press isn’t
        talking about guns, or violent movies, or violent video games, or any other
        thing that hundreds of millions of people participated in yesterday without
        murdering anybody, they’ll keep showing the killer’s picture in the
        background while telling the world all about him and his struggles.
        And then the cycle repeats, as the next disaffected angry loner takes notes.

        They should not be glamorized. They should be hated, despised, and
        forgotten. They are not victims. They are not powerful. They are murdering
        scum, and the only time their names should be remembered is when people like
        me are studying the tactics of how to neutralize them faster.
        Mental Health Issues
        And right here I’m going to show why I’m different than the people I’ve been
        arguing with the last few days. I am not an expert on mental health issues
        or psychiatry or psychology. My knowledge of criminal psychology is limited
        to understanding the methods of killers enough to know how to fight them
        So since I don’t have enough first-hand knowledge about this topic to
        comment intelligently, then I’m not going to comment… Oh please, if only
        some of the people I’ve been arguing with who barely understand that the
        bullets come out the pointy end of the gun would just do the same.
        Gun Control Laws
        As soon as there is a tragedy there comes the calls for “We have to do
        something! ” Sure, the something may not actually accomplish anything as far
        as solving whatever the tragedy was or preventing the next one, but that’s
        the narrative. Something evil happened, so we have to do something, and
        preferably we have to do it right now before we think about it too hard.
        The left side of the political spectrum loves it some gun control. Gun
        control is historically extremely unpopular in red state and purple state
        America, and thus very hard to pass bit stuff, but there’s a century’s
        accumulation of lots and lots of small ones. There have been a handful of
        major federal laws passed in the United States relating to guns, but the
        majority of really strict gun control has primarily been enacted in liberal
        dominated urban areas. There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books, and I
        have no idea how many pages of regulations from the BATF related to the
        production and selling of them. I’ve found that the average American is
        extremely uneducated about what gun laws already exist, what they actually
        do, and even fundamental terminology, so I’m going to go through many of the
        things I’ve seen argued about over the last few days and elaborate on them
        one by one.
        I will leave out the particularly crazy things I was confronted with,
        including the guy who was in favor of mandating “automatic robot gun
        turrets” in schools. Yes. Heaven forbid we let a teacher CCW, so let’s put
        killer robots (which haven’t actually been invented yet) in schools. Man, I
        wish I was making this up, but that’s Facebook for you.
        We need to ban automatic weapons .
        Okay. Done. In fact, we pretty much did that in 1934. The National Firearms
        Act of 1934 made it so that you had to pay a $200 tax on a machinegun and
        register it with the government. In 1986 that registry was closed and there
        have been no new legal machineguns for civilians to own since then.
        Automatic means that when you hold down the trigger the gun keeps on
        shooting until you let go or run out of ammo. Actual automatic weapons cost
        a lot of money. The cheapest one you can get right now is around $5,000 as
        they are all collector’s items and you need to jump through a lot of legal
        hoops to get one. To the best of my knowledge, there has only ever been one
        crime committed with an NFA weapon in my lifetime, and in that case the perp
        was a cop.
        Now are machineguns still used in crimes? Why, yes they are. For every
        legally registered one, there are conservatively dozens of illegal ones in
        the hands of criminals. They either make their own (which is not hard to do)
        or they are smuggled in (usually by the same people that are able to smuggle
        in thousands of tons of drugs). Because really serious criminals simply
        don’t care, they are able to get a hold of military weapons, and they use
        them simply because criminals, by definition, don’t obey the law. So even an
        item which has been basically banned since my grandparents were kids, and
        which there has been no new ones allowed manufactured since I was in
        elementary school, still ends up in the hands of criminals who really want
        one. This will go to show how effective government bans are.
        When you say “automatic” you mean full auto, as in a machinegun. What I
        think most of these people mean is semi-auto.
        Okay. We need to ban semi-automatic weapons!
        Semi-automatic means that each time you pull the trigger the action cycles
        and loads another round. This is the single most common type of gun, not
        just in America, but in the whole world. Almost all handguns are
        semi-automatic. The vast majority of weapons used for self-defense are
        semi-automatic, as are almost all the weapons used by police officers. It
        is the most common because it is normally the most effective.
        Semi-automatic is usually best choice for defensive use. It is easier to use
        because you can do so one handed if necessary, and you are forced to
        manipulate your weapon less. If you believe that using a gun for
        self-defense is necessary, then you pretty much have to say that semi-auto
        is okay.
        Banning semi-automatic basically means banning all guns. I’ll get to the
        functional problems with that later.
        We should ban handguns!
        Handguns are tools for self-defense, and the only reason we use them over
        the more capable, and easier to hit with rifles or shotguns is because
        handguns are portable. Rifles are just plain better, but the only reason I
        don’t carry an AR-15 around is because it would be hard to hide under my
        Concealed Carry works. As much as it offends liberals and we keep hearing
        horror stories about blood in the streets, the fact is over my lifetime most
        of the United States has enacted some form of concealed carry law, and the
        blood in the streets wild west shootouts over parking spaces they’ve
        predicted simply hasn’t happened. At this point in time there are only a few
        hold out states, all of them are blue states and all of them have inner
        cities which suffer from terrible crime, where once again, the criminals
        simply don’t care.
        For information about how more guns actually equals less crime, look up the
        work of Dr. John Lott. And since liberals hate his guts, look up the less
        famous work of Dr. Gary Kleck, or basically look up the work of any
        criminologist or economist who isn’t writing for Slate or Mother Jones.
        As for why CCW is good, see my whole first section about arming teachers for
        a tiny part of the whole picture. Basically bad people are going to be bad
        and do bad things. They are going to hurt you and take your stuff, because
        that’s what they do. That’s their career, and they are as good at it as you
        are at your job. They will do this anywhere they think they can get away
        with it. We fixate on the mass shooters because they grab the headlines,
        but in actuality your odds of running in to one of them is tiny. Your odds
        of having a violent encounter with a run of the mill criminal is orders of
        magnitudes higher.
        I do find one thing highly amusing. In my personal experience, some of the
        most vehement anti-gun people I’ve ever associated with will usually
        eventually admit after getting to know me, that if something bad happened,
        then they really hope I’m around, because I’m one of the good ones. Usually
        they never realize just how hypocritical and naïve that is.
        We should ban Assault Rifles!
        Define “assault rifle”…
        Yeah. That’s the problem. The term assault rifle gets bandied around a lot.
        Politically, the term is a loaded nonsense one that was created back during
        the Clinton years. It was one of those tricks where you name legislation
        something catchy, like PATRIOT Act. (another law rammed through while
        emotions were high and nobody was thinking, go figure).
        To gun experts, an assault rifle is a very specific type of weapon which
        originated (for the most part) in the 1940s. It is a magazine fed, select
        fire (meaning capable of full auto), intermediate cartridge (as in, actually
        not that powerful, but I’ll come back to that later) infantry weapon.
        The thing is, real assault rifles in the US have been heavily regulated
        since before they were invented. The thing that the media and politicians
        like to refer to as assault rifles is basically a catch all term for any gun
        which looks scary.
        I had somebody get all mad at me for pointing this out, because they said
        that the term had entered common usage. Okay… If you’re going to legislate
        it, DEFINE IT.
        And then comes up that pesky problem. The US banned assault rifles once
        before for a decade and the law did absolutely nothing. I mean, it was
        totally, literally pointless. The special commission to study it said that
        it accomplished absolutely nothing. (except tick a bunch of Americans off,
        and as a result we bought a TON more guns) And the reason was that since
        assault weapon is a nonsense term, they just came up with a list of
        arbitrary features which made a gun into an assault weapon.
        Problem was, none of these features actually made the gun functionally any
        different or somehow more lethal or better from any other run of the mill
        firearm. Most of the criteria were so silly that they became a huge joke to
        gun owners, except of course, for that part where many law abiding citizens
        accidentally became instant felons because one of their guns had some
        cosmetic feature which was now illegal.
        One of the criteria was that it was semi-automatic. See above. Hard to ban
        the single most common and readily available type of gun in the world.
        (unless you believe in confiscation, but I’ll get to that). Then what if it
        takes a detachable magazine! That’s got to be an Evil Feature. And yes, we
        really did call the Evil Features. I’ll talk about magazines below, but once
        again, it is pretty hard to ban something that common unless you want to go
        on a confiscatory national suicide mission.
        For example, flash hiders sound dangerous. Let’s say having a flash hider
        makes a gun an assault weapon. So flash hiders became an evil feature.
        Problem is flash hiders don’t do much. They screw onto the end of your
        muzzle and divert the flash off to the side instead of straight up so it
        isn’t as annoying when you shoot. It doesn’t actually hide the flash from
        anybody else. EVIL.
        Barrel shrouds were listed. Barrel shrouds are basically useless, cosmetic
        pieces of metal that go over the barrel so you don’t accidentally touch it
        and burn your hand. But they became an instantaneous felony too. Collapsible
        stocks make it so you can adjust your rifle to different size shooters, that
        way a tall guy and his short wife can shoot the same gun. Nope. EVIL
        It has been a running joke in the gun community ever since the ban passed.
        When Carolyn McCarthy was asked by a reporter what a barrel shroud was, she
        replied “I think it is the shoulder thing which goes up.” Oh good. I’m glad
        that thousands of law abiding Americans unwittingly committed felonies
        because they had a cosmetic piece of sheet metal on their barrel, which has
        no bearing whatsoever on crime, but could possibly be a shoulder thing which
        goes up.
        Now are you starting to see why “assault weapons” is a pointless term? They
        aren’t functionally any more powerful or deadly than any normal gun. In fact
        the cartridges they normally fire are far less powerful than your average
        deer hunting rifle. Don’t worry though, because the same people who fling
        around the term assault weapons also think of scoped deer rifles as “high
        powered sniper guns”.
        Basically, what you are thinking of as assault weapons aren’t special.
        Now, the reason that semi-automatic, magazine fed, intermediate caliber
        rifles are the single most popular type of gun in America is because they
        are excellent for many uses, but I’m not talking about fun, or hunting, or
        sports, today I’m talking business. And in this case they are excellent for
        shooting bad people who are trying to hurt you, in order to make them stop
        trying to hurt you. These types of guns are superb for defending your home.
        Now some of you may think that’s extreme. That’s because everything you’ve
        learned about gun fights comes from TV. Just read the link where I expound
        on why .
        I had one individual tell me that these types of guns are designed to
        slaughter the maximum number of people possible as quickly as possible… Uh
        huh… Which is why every single police department in America uses them,
        because of all that slaughtering cops do daily. Cops use them for the same
        reason we do, they are handy, versatile, and can stop an attacker quickly in
        a variety of circumstances.
        When I said “stop an attacker quickly” somebody on Twitter thought that he’d
        gotten me and said “Stop. That’s just a euphemism for kill!” Nope. I am
        perfectly happy if the attacker surrenders or passes out from blood loss
        too. Tactically and legally, all I care about is making them stop doing
        whatever it is that they are doing which caused me to shoot them to begin
        The guns that many of you think of as assault rifle are common and popular
        because they are excellent for fighting, and I’ll talk about what my side
        really thinks about the 2 nd Amendment below.
        We should ban magazines over X number of shots!
        I’ve seen this one pop up a lot. It sounds good to the ear and really
        satisfies that we’ve got to do something need. It sounds simple. Bad guys
        shoot a lot of people in a mass shooting. So if he has magazines that hold
        fewer rounds, ergo then he’ll not be able to shoot as many people.
        Wrong. And I’ll break it down, first why my side wants more rounds in our
        gun, second why tactically it doesn’t really stop the problem, and third,
        why stopping them is a logistical impossibility.
        First off, why do gun owners want magazines that hold more rounds? Because
        sometimes you miss. Because usually—contrary to the movies—you have to hit
        an opponent multiple times in order to make them stop. Because sometimes you
        may have multiple assailants. We don’t have more rounds in the magazine so
        we can shoot more , we have more rounds in the magazine so we are forced to
        manipulate our gun less if we have to shoot more.
        The last assault weapons ban capped capacities at ten rounds. You quickly
        realize ten rounds sucks when you take a wound ballistics class like I have
        and go over case after case after case after case of enraged, drug addled,
        prison hardened, perpetrators who soaked up five, seven, nine, even fifteen
        bullets and still walked under their own power to the ambulance. That isn’t
        uncommon at all. Legally, you can shoot them until they cease to be a
        threat, and keep in mind that what normally causes a person to stop is loss
        of blood pressure, so I used to tell my students that anybody worth shooting
        once was worth shooting five or seven times. You shoot them until they leave
        you alone.
        Also, you’re going to miss. It is going to happen. If you can shoot pretty
        little groups at the range, those groups are going to expand dramatically
        under the stress and adrenalin. The more you train, the better you will do,
        but you can still may miss, or the bad guy may end up hiding behind
        something which your bullets don’t penetrate. Nobody has ever survived a
        gunfight and then said afterwards, “Darn, I wish I hadn’t brought all that
        extra ammo.”
        So having more rounds in the gun is a good thing for self-defense use.
        Now tactically, let’s say a mass shooter is on a rampage in a school. Unless
        his brain has turned to mush and he’s a complete idiot, he’s not going to
        walk up right next to you while he reloads anyway. Unlike the CCW holder who
        gets attacked and has to defend himself in whatever crappy situation he
        finds himself in, the mass shooter is the aggressor. He’s picked the
        engagement range. They are cowards who are murdering running and hiding
        children, but don’t for a second make the mistake of thinking they are dumb.
        Many of these scumbags are actually very intelligent. They’re just broken
        and evil.
        In the cases that I’m aware of where the shooter had guns that held fewer
        rounds they just positioned themselves back a bit while firing or they
        brought more guns, and simply switched guns and kept on shooting, and then
        reloaded before they moved to the next planned firing position. Unless you
        are a fumble fingered idiot, anybody who practices in front of a mirror a
        few dozen times can get to where they can insert a new magazine into a gun
        in a few seconds.
        A good friend of mine (who happens to be a very reasonable democrat) was
        very hung up on this, sure that he would be able to take advantage of the
        time in which it took for the bad guy to reload his gun. That’s a bad
        assumption, and here’s yet another article that addresses that sort of
        misconception that I wrote several years ago which has sort of made the
        rounds on firearm’s forums . So that’s awesome if it happens, but good luck
        with that.
        Finally, let’s look at the logistical ramifications of another magazine ban.
        The AWB banned the production of all magazines over ten rounds except those
        marked for military or law enforcement use, and it was a felony to possess
        Over the ten years of the ban, we never ran out. Not even close. Magazines
        are cheap and basic. Most of them are pieces of sheet metal with some wire.
        That’s it. Magazines are considered disposable so most gun people accumulate
        a ton of them. All it did was make magazines more expensive, ticked off law
        abiding citizens, and didn’t so much as inconvenience a single criminal.
        Meanwhile, bad guys didn’t run out either. And if they did, like I said,
        they are cheap and basic, so you just get or make more. If you can cook
        meth, you can make a functioning magazine. My old company designed a rifle
        magazine once, and I’m no engineer. I paid a CAD guy, spent $20,000 and
        churned out several thousand 20 round Saiga .308 mags. This could’ve been
        done out of my garage.
        Ten years. No difference. Meanwhile, we had bad guys turning up all the time
        committing crimes, and guess what was marked on the mags found in their
        guns? MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT USE ONLY. Because once again, if you’re
        already breaking a bunch of laws, they can only hang you once. Criminals
        simply don’t care.
        Once the AWB timed out, because every politician involved looked at the mess
        which had been passed in the heat of the moment, the fact it did nothing,
        and the fact that every single one of them from a red state would lose their
        job if they voted for a new one, it expired and went away. Immediately every
        single gun person in America went out and bought a couple guns which had
        been banned and a bucket of new magazines, because nothing makes an American
        want to do something more than telling them they can’t. We’ve been stocking
        up ever since. If the last ban did literally nothing at all over a decade,
        and since then we’ve purchased another hundred million magazines since then,
        another ban will do even less. (except just make the law abiding that much
        angrier, and I’ll get to that below).
        I bought $600 worth of magazines for my competition pistol this morning.
        I’ve already got a shelf full for my rifles. Gun and magazine sales
        skyrocket every time a democrat politician starts to vulture in on a
        tragedy. I don’t know if many of you realize this, but Barack Obama is
        personally responsible for more gun sales, and especially first time gun
        purchases, than anyone in history. When I owned my gun store, we had a
        picture of him on the wall and a caption beneath it which said SALESMAN OF
        THE YEAR.
        So you can ban this stuff, but it won’t actually do anything to the crimes
        you want to stop. Unless you think you can confiscate them all, but I’ll
        talk about confiscation later.
        One last thing to share about the magazine ban from the AWB, and this is
        something all gun people know, but most anti-gunners do not. When you put an
        artificial cap on a weapon, and tell us that we can only have a limited
        number of rounds in that weapon, we’re going to make sure they are the most
        potent rounds possible. Before the ban, everybody bought 9mms which held an
        average of 15 rounds. After the ban, if I can only have ten rounds, they’re
        going to be bigger, so we all started buying 10 shot .45s instead.
        You don’t need an assault weapon for hunting!
        Who said anything about hunting? That whole thing about the 2nd Amendment
        being for sportsmen is hogwash. The 2nd Amendment is about bearing arms to
        protect yourself from threats, up to and including a tyrannical government.
        Spare me the whole, “You won’t be happy until everybody has nuclear weapons”
        reduction ad absurdum. It says arms, as in things that were man portable.
        And as for the founding fathers not being able to see foresee our modern
        arms, you forget that many of them were inventors, and multi shot weapons
        were already in service. Not to mention that in that day, arms included
        cannon, since most of the original artillery of the Continental Army was
        privately owned. Besides, the Supreme Court agrees with me. See DC v.
        Well we should just ban ALL guns then! You only need them to murder people!
        It doesn’t really make sense to ban guns, because in reality what that means
        is that you are actually banning effective self-defense. Despite the
        constant hammering by a news media with an agenda, guns are used in America
        far more to stop crime than to cause crime.
        I’ve seen several different sets of numbers about how many times guns are
        used in self-defense every year. The problem with keeping track of this stat
        is that the vast majority of the time when a gun is produced in a legal
        self-defense situation no shots are fired. The mere presence of the gun is
        enough to cause the criminal to stop.
        Clint Smith once said if you look like food, you will be eaten. Criminals
        are looking for prey. They are looking for easy victims. If they wanted to
        work hard for a living they’d get a job. So when you pull a gun, you are no
        longer prey, you are work, so they are going to go find somebody else to
        pick on.
        So many defensive gun uses never get tracked as such. From personal
        experience, I have pulled a gun exactly one time in my entire life. I was
        legally justified and the bad guy stopped, put his gun away, and left. (15
        years later the same son of a bitch would end up murdering a local sheriff’s
        deputy). My defensive gun use was never recorded anywhere as far as I know.
        My wife has pulled a gun twice in her life. Once on somebody who was acting
        very rapey who suddenly found a better place to be when she stuck a Ruger in
        his face, and again many years later on a German Shepherd which was
        attacking my one year old son. (amazingly enough a dog can recognize a 9mm
        coming out of a fanny pack and run for its life, go figure) No police report
        at all on the second one, and I don’t believe the first one ever turned up
        as any sort of defensive use statistic, all because no shots were fired.
        So how often are guns actually used in self-defense in America ?
        On the high side the estimate runs around 2.5 million defensive gun uses a
        year, which dwarfs our approximately 16,000 homicides in any recent year,
        only 10k of which are with guns . Of those with guns, only a couple
        hundred are with rifles. So basically, the guns that the anti-gunners are
        the most spun up about only account for a tiny fraction of all our murders.
        But let’s not go with the high estimate. Let’s go with some smaller ones
        instead. Let’s use the far more conservative 800,000 number which is arrived
        at in multiple studies. That still dwarfs the number of illegal shootings.
        Heck, let’s even run with the number once put out by the people who want to
        ban guns, the Brady Center, which was still around 108,000, which still is
        an awesome ratio of good vs. bad.
        So even if you use the worst number provided by people who are just as
        biased as me but in the opposite direction, gun use is a huge net positive.
        Or to put it another way, the Brady Center hates guns so much that they are
        totally cool with the population of a decent sized city getting raped and
        murdered every year as collateral damage in order to get what they want.
        Doesn’t matter. I don’t like them. We should ban them and take them all away
        like a civilized country.
        Well, I suppose if your need to do something overrides all reason and logic,
        then by all means let’s ban guns.
        Australia had a mass shooting and instituted a massive gun ban and
        confiscation (a program which would not work here, which I’ll get to, but
        let’s run with it anyway.). As was pointed out to me on Facebook, they
        haven’t had any mass shootings since. However, they fail to realize that
        they didn’t really have any mass shootings before either. You need to keep
        in mind that mass shooting are horrific headline grabbing statistical
        anomalies. You are far more likely to get your head caved in by a local thug
        while he’s trying to steal your wallet, and that probably won’t even make
        the evening news.
        And violent crime is up in Australia. A cursory Google search will show
        articles about the increase in violent crime and theft, but then other
        articles pooh-pooing these stats as being insignificant and totally not
        related to the guns.
        So then we’ve got England, where they reacted swiftly after a mass shooting,
        banned and confiscated guns, and their violent crime has since skyrocketed.
        Their stats are far worse than Australia, and they are now one of the more
        dangerous countries to live in the EU. Once again, cursory Google search
        will show articles with the stats, and other articles saying that those
        rises like totally have nothing to do with regular folks no longer being
        able to defend themselves… Sensing a trend yet?
        And then we’ve got South Africa, which instituted some really hard core gun
        bans and some extremely strict controls, and their crime is now so high that
        it is basically either no longer tracked or simply not countable. But
        obviously, the totally unbiased news says that has absolutely nothing to do
        with people no longer being able to legally defend themselves.
        Then you’ve got countries like Norway, with extremely strict gun control.
        Their gun control laws are simply incomprehensible to half of Americans. Not
        only that, they are an ethnically and socially homogenous, tiny population,
        well off country, without our gang violence or drug problems. Their gun
        control laws are draconian by our standards. They make Chicago look like
        Boise. Surely that level of gun control will stop school shootings! Except
        of course for 2011 when a maniac killed 77 and injured 242 people, a body
        count which is absurdly high compared to anything which has happened
        Because once again, repeat it with me, criminals simply do not give a crap.
        That mass killer used a gun and homemade explosives. Make guns harder to
        get, and explosives become the weapon of choice. Please do keep in mind that
        the largest and most advanced military coalition in human history was
        basically stymied for a decade by a small group using high school level
        chemistry and the Afghani equivalent to Radio Shack.
        The biggest mass killings in US history have used bombs (like Bath,
        Michigan), fire (like Happyland Nightclub) or airliners. There is no law you
        can pass, nothing you can say or do, which will make some not be evil.
        And all of this is irrelevant, because banning and confiscating all the
        scary guns in America will be national suicide.
        You crazy gun nuts and your 2nd Amendment. We should just confiscate all the
        Many of you may truly believe that. You may think that the 2nd Amendment is
        archaic, outdated, and totally pointless. However, approximately half of the
        country disagrees with you, and of them, a pretty large portion is fully
        willing to shoot somebody in defense of it.
        We’ve already seen that your partial bans are stupid and don’t do anything,
        so unless you are merely a hypocrite more interested in style rather than
        results, the only way to achieve your goal is to come and take the guns
        away. So let’s talk about confiscation.
        They say that there are 80 million gun owners in America. I personally think
        that number is low for a few reasons. The majority of gun owners I know,
        when contacted for a phone survey and asked if they own guns, will become
        suspicious and simply lie. Those of us who don’t want to end like England or
        Australia will say that we lost all of our guns in a freak canoe accident.
        Guns do not really wear out. I have perfectly functioning guns from WWI, and
        I’ve got friends who have still useable firearms from the 1800s. Plus we’ve
        been building more of them this entire time. There are more guns than there
        are people in America, and some of us have enough to arm our entire
        But for the sake of math, let’s say that there are only 80 million gun
        owners, and let’s say that the government decides to round up all those
        pesky guns once and for all. Let’s be generous and say that 90% of the gun
        owners don’t really believe in the 2nd Amendment, and their guns are just
        for duck hunting. Which is what politicians keep telling us, but is actually
        rather hilarious when you think about how the most commonly sold guns in
        America are the same detachable magazine semiautomatic rifles I talked about
        So ten percent refuse to turn their guns in. That is 8 million instantaneous
        felons. Let’s say that 90% of them are not wanting to comply out of sheer
        stubbornness. Let’s be super generous and say that 90% of them would still
        just roll over and turn their guns when pressed or legally threatened.
        That leaves 800,000 Americans who are not turning their guns in, no matter
        what. To put that in perspective there are only about 700,000 police
        officers in the whole country.
        Let’s say that these hypothetical 10% of 10% are willing to actually fight
        to keep their guns. Even if my hypothetical estimate of 800,000 gun nuts
        willing to fight for their guns is correct, it is still 97% higher than the
        number of insurgents we faced at any one time in Iraq, a country about the
        size of Texas.
        However, I do honestly believe that it would be much bigger than 10%. Once
        the confiscations turned violent, then it would push many otherwise peaceful
        people over the edge. I saw somebody on Twitter post about how the 2nd
        Amendment is stupid because my stupid assault rifles are useless against
        drones… That person has obviously never worked with the people who build the
        drones, fly the drones, and service the drones. I have. Where to you think
        the majority of the US military falls on the political spectrum exactly?
        There’s a reason Mitt Romney won the military vote by over 40 points, and it
        wasn’t because of his hair.
        And as for those 700,000 cops, how many of them would side with the gun
        owners? All the gun nuts, that’s for sure. As much as some people like to
        complain about the gun culture, many of the people you hire to protect you,
        and darn near all of them who can shoot well, belong to that gun culture.
        And as I hear people complain about the gun industry, like it is some
        nebulous, faceless, all powerful corporate thing which hungers for war and
        anarchy, I just have to laugh, because the gun industry probably has the
        highest percentage of former cops and former military of any industry in the
        country. My being a civilian was odd in the circles I worked in. The men
        and women you pay to protect you have honor and integrity, and they will
        fight for what they believe in.
        So the real question the anti-gun, ban and confiscate, crowd should be
        asking themselves is this, how many of your fellow Americans are you willing
        to have killed in order to bring about your utopian vision of the future?
        Boo Evil Gun Culture!
        Really? Because I hate to break it to you, but when nearly six hundred
        people get murdered a year in beautiful Gun Free Chicago, that’s not my
        people doing the shooting.
        The gun culture is all around you, well obviously except for those of you
        reading this in elite liberal urban city centers where you’ve extinguished
        your gun culture. They are your friends, relatives, and coworkers. The
        biggest reason gun control has become increasingly difficult to pass over
        the last decade is because more and more people have turned to CCW, and as
        that has become more common, it has removed much of the stigma. Now
        everybody outside of elite urban liberal city centers knows somebody that
        carries a gun. The gun culture is simply regular America, and is made up of
        people who think their lives and their families lives are more important
        than the life of anyone who tries to victimize them.
        The gun culture is who protects our country. Sure, there are plenty of
        soldiers and cops who are issued a gun and who use it as part of their job
        who could care less. However, the people who build the guns, really
        understand the guns, actually enjoy using the guns, and usually end up being
        picked to teach everybody else how to use the guns are the gun culture.
        The media and the left would absolutely love to end the gun culture in
        America, because then they could finally pass all the laws they wanted.
        Let’s take a look at what happens when a country finally succeeds in utterly
        stamping out its gun culture. Mumbai, 2008. Ten armed jihadi terrorists
        simply walked into town and started shooting people. It was a rather direct,
        straight forward, ham fisted, simple terrorist attack. They killed over 150
        and wounded over 300. India has incredibly strict gun laws, but once again,
        criminals didn’t care.
        That’s not my point this time however, I want to look at the response. These
        ten men shut down an entire massive city and struck fear into the hearts of
        millions for THREE DAYS. Depending on where this happened in America it
        would have been over in three minutes or three hours. The Indian police
        responded, but their tactics sucked. The marksmanship sucked. Their
        leadership sucked. Their response utterly and completely fell apart.
        In talking afterwards with some individuals from a small agency of our
        government who were involved in the clean-up and investigation, all of whom
        are well trained, well practiced, gun nuts, they told me the problem was
        that the Indian police had no clue what to do because they’d never been
        taught what to do. Their leadership hated and feared the gun so much that
        they stamped out the ability for any of their men to actually master the
        tool. When you kill your gun culture, you kill off your instructors, and
        those who can pass down the information necessary to do the job.
        Don’t think that we are so far off here. I recently got to sit down with
        some fans who are members of one of the larger metro police departments in
        America. These guys were all SWAT cops or narcotics, all of them were gun
        nuts who practiced on their own dime, and all of them were intimately
        familiar with real violence. These are the guys that you want responding
        when the real bad stuff goes down.
        What they told me made me sick. Their leadership was all uniformly liberal
        and extremely anti-gun, just like most big cities in America. They walked me
        through what their responses were supposed to be in case of a Mumbai style
        event, and how their “scary assault weapons” were kept locked up where they
        would be unavailable, and how dismal their training was, and how since the
        state had run off or shut down most of the gun ranges, most of the cops
        couldn’t even practice or qualify anymore.
        So now they were less safe, the people they were protecting were less safe,
        the bad guys were safer, but most importantly their leadership could pat
        themselves on the back, because they’d done something.
        Well, okay. You make some good points. But I’d be more comfortable if you
        gun people were force to have more mandatory training!
        And I did actually have this one said to me, which is an amazing victory by
        internet arguing standards.
        Mandatory training is a placebo at best. Here is my take on why .
        In conclusion, basically it doesn’t really matter what something you pick
        when some politician or pundit starts screaming we’ve got to do something,
        because in reality, most of them already know a lot of what I listed above.
        The ones who are walking around with their security details of well-armed
        men in their well-guarded government buildings really don’t care about
        actually stopping mass shooters or bad guys, they care about giving
        themselves more power and increasing their control.
        If a bad guy used a gun with a big magazine, ban magazines. If instead he
        used more guns, ban owning multiple guns. If he used a more powerful gun
        with less shots, ban powerful guns. If he used hollow points, ban hollow
        points. (which I didn’t get into, but once again, there’s a reason everybody
        who might have to shoot somebody uses them). If he ignored some Gun Free
        Zone, make more places Gun Free Zones. If he killed a bunch of innocents,
        make sure you disarm the innocents even harder for next time. Just in case,
        let’s ban other guns that weren’t even involved in any crimes, just because
        they’re too big, too small, too ugly, too cute, too long, too short, too
        fat, too thin, (and if you think I’m joking I can point out a law or
        proposed law for each of those) but most of all ban anything which makes
        some politician irrationally afraid, which luckily, is pretty much
        They will never be happy. In countries where they have already banned guns,
        now they are banning knives and putting cameras on every street. They talk
        about compromise, but it is never a compromise. It is never, wow, you offer
        a quick, easy, inexpensive, viable solution to ending mass shootings in
        schools, let’s try that. It is always, what can we take from you this time,
        or what will enable us to grow some federal apparatus?
        Then regular criminals will go on still not caring, the next mass shooter
        will watch the last mass shooter be the most famous person in the world on
        TV, the media will keep on vilifying the people who actually do the most to
        defend the innocent, the ignorant will call people like me names and tell us
        we must like dead babies, and nothing actually changes to protect our kids.
        If you are serious about actually stopping school shootings, contact your
        state representative and tell them to look into allowing someone at your
        kid’s school to be armed. It is time to install some speed bumps.
        EDIT: I have been stunned by the level of response on this post. I wrote it
        so that it could be shared, but I had no idea just how much it would be, so
        thank you. I have received hundreds of comments, emails, and I don’t even
        know how many Twitter and Facebook messages. It is heartening that this made
        many people think about the issues in a new way.
        I will try to respond and answer questions as I can, but there are a LOT of
        them, so I will probably take the most common ones and do another blog post
        when I have the chance. If your comment doesn’t appear immediately, that is
        because I have to approve first time posters manually to make sure they are
        not spambots.
        If I had realized 30,000 people would read this today I would have proof
        read it. When you find a typo or something that seems a bit rough, I wrote
        this 10k word essay from 9pm to 1am and posted it the next day at lunch.
        For those of you who haven’t been here before, I make my living as a
        novelist. If you click any of the Amazon or B&N links off to the right side
        it will take you to one of my books. Thank you for your support,
        encouragement, and honest debate.
        EDIT2 After two straight days of responding to as many debate posts in the
        comments as possible, I’m fried, and hanging it up for Christmas. I’ll still
        be approving posts periodically, but that’s it for me as far as arguing (and
        it has rapidly turned into the same thing over and over again) This post
        has been read 150,000 times now, gotten national media attention, and been
        reposted all over the internet. Awesome. I was sincerely hoping people would
        share it, so thank you very much. Have a Merry Christmas.

        • You got to be kidding me. I can see you are a novelist. Please try to make your point in 50 words or less.

          • Gee, it took me less time to read “War and Peace” than PP post. Dude, try some decaf!

          • Damn..after the 10th paragraph, I started scrolling…and I do read about 2 novels a week.
            Next time…provide link, please.

          • JRS…….REALLY!!! I fell asleep after the 10th “I DID THIS!!!!” and AIN’T I GREAT!!??? You could use a guy like that when ya went SAILING cause ya wouldn’t NEED th WIND!!!!

            • He has Obamas disease. Me, me,me! Nice screed though.

          • It was long. But I could read this guy for hours. It was, imo, one of the best, well written, logical arguments I have ever had the pleasure to read. And the guy knows his shit.

            A link would be more fitting to the forum, I agree. But this was worth it. Thanks

        • Original authors don’t like there stuff copy and pasted. Please just give a link next time.

        • @Peter Parker—

          It looks like you were in a hurry. Looks like you may have left something out? Next time when posting, please take your time and finish….

        • Dude…
          Do you think any LIBERAL could/would READ all that?
          It is simply time to; JUST SAY NO.
          and stand behind it.

        • Thanks Pete…

          Outstanding post!

          That said:

          Hey Larry…when we real Americans chase that communist mulatto back to Kenya…we’ll have a job opening available!


          J.F.A. Davidson would make the best VP***!!! He’ll have your six!


          ***Ryback & a few others…understand!!!!!

        • F#$% you, go away you damage all of our good arguments

        • OH MY!!!! Would you mind paraphrasing that? Just to sort of sum it up in a few sentences, I gotta go to bed in a few hours to get sleep for work tomorrow.

        • Read until he said something about free CCW classes to teachers the scanned to the end and decided that was WAY more than I wanted to read.

        • do know you can copy and paste the link,,, right?


          The next Spiderman is already written. Anyone that actually read all of that has to be in jail or prison. Great idea! Send it to them instead!

        • OMG if I could of actually read all of that with out falling asleep I would of thought of turning a gun on myself. Cant wait to see the movie

        • peter parker


      21. Fueling up the murder machine! how till they see if she cranks!

      22. Climate change? Is that all? Well hell . . . guess I’ll just sell off all these prep items on eBay. Don’t need ’em if it’s just climate change.

        Ahem . . . they are not, NOT, stocking up for climate change. They know and understand that the U.S. is on the skids, and someone just slathered on the grease. If it was just climate change, why did they say the American people need to be disarmed?

        They’re smart, and patient. They’ll roll in on their own good time.

      23. PP: Next time link it please.

      24. It’s hilarious to me when people criticize the “fortress America” concept. Aka: revert back to the cold war mentality of MAD (with enough nukes to render the planet radioactive glass), close our borders, repay absolutely jack-shit.

        Seems to be about to work out really well for China, doesn’t it?

      25. The Chinese are stock piling for only one reason in my mind. That is this, only the ruling class and the military will ever see any of this stuff. They know all too well what is coming down the pike for the world; they are truly positioning themselves to be the super power on the other side.

        Because at the rate the U. S. is going, and where we are going, our super power days will be over.


      26. There’s really bad times coming, but they’re still a ways off. Just look at Europe, some countries have been in a depression for over a year now and Europe’s still functioning, still having vacations and tourism like its all roses.

        I think Europe hits a wall financially this year, but i’m expecting 2014 to be the year of rapid decline into some dark times; the smart ones are just getting set up for it.

        Give me another year and I’ll be able to skip what’s coming entirely.

      27. Just a coincidence…for those coincidence theorists.

        • I like that term…”coincidence theorists.”

          • Then please use it every chance you get.

      28. Theyre about to go to war. Our Furor N cheif is about to ban guns by unlawful decree and when he does he is going to have to have foreign troops to come in and enforce it because people like ME will not play nice and be good lil slaves. China has the biggest Military and does nt care how many they loose. Like the man in hte commercial says, we work for them now. All ican say is get ready folks.

        • My family will never be disarmed

      29. nuclear exchange with China ???

        I’m not too worried

        unless they have figured out a way to neutralize our
        fleet of nuclear armed submarines

        • Provided barry will let them use their arsenal.

      30. Dear DHS, please put these plans on hold. i have my preps but am in the process of aquiring land to protect my preps. please be so kind as to put this shit on hold for another 5 years so i can complete my goal and have somewhat of a fair chance in the fight.

        scincerley, one of your many biggest enemies

      31. The Chinese are preparing to take advantage of the economic collapse to be the new masters of the world. I say to Red China BRING IT ON IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES! I don’t bow down to any 2-bit tyrants regardless of where they come from. Braveheart



        • A guy told me Obama was going to confiscate guns. My reply..
          He will have to find them first.

          yeah… we will just ignore all the unconstitutional laws.

          They’d have to go house to house and then I’d hand them my rusty old shit gun that can’t fire…and the good stuff will be hidden.

          ha.. Would you boys like a cup of coffee….? yeah right

      33. Soviet propaganda poster from 1918:

        “Citizen, hand over the weapon!”

        What happened to the Russian people after they turned in their guns? That’s all you ned to know about the true motives behind gun control.

        • My family and I will never be disarmed.


      34. Can’t remember where I heard/read this, but right after the Fiscal Cliff surrender by the GOP, it was rumored that China put alot of pressure on both parties so that the US would keep paying interest on our bonds.

        Given the coming debt ceiling train wreck, our dick’n around in the Near East with Iran and Syria, and guys like Dr. Arthur Herman writing that the U.S. is quickly moving towards a civil war, I can’t say I blame the Chinese.


      35. Holy shit peter parker. Can’t say I had time to read that trying to gather everyone’s thoughts. Overload!

        Well Ubammer signs and EO on firearms wouldn’t that be treason in a time of war? We are at war in the Middle East (as usual) so it’s wartime right? If I remember right that’s sort of a strict penalty. Time for a march? I could see that… a million armed man march on Washington to try the president for treason. Cool.

      36. I believe they know that the world is going into famine mode,and they know it.The USA is headed for the third straight year if not the fourth of drought
        I have also noticed a lot more tv commercial’s on the boob toob and raido selling the idea that canned and fresh frozen is the way to go? WHY? COMING SHORTAGE’S!!!
        We will end up importing food from them.

      37. Bring them little yellow bastards on…….

        • Just like the old Nuprin commercials.

          “Little. Yellow. Different. BETTER.”


          Unless we pull our heads out of our asses. The only two strategies that ever worked for us was the Switzerland version (get involved in absolutely nothing and live within your means) or the big guy with the hundred thousand nukes version.

          This whole “let’s all be the world’s big brother buddy” shit is getting us bent over a table.

      38. I knew I picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue.

        • TRUE THAT.

      39. Short answer to a long post..


        • He knows, where do you think he came up with the False Flag Idea of Sandy Hook

      40. When my DW was a girl of 16 a man came to her home’s front door with a package that needed to be signed for by her Dad or Mom. My wife told the man neither was home. He then push his way in and raped her.

        In 1991, on Christmas Eve my DW and I were mugged/car jacked in a parking lot by two guys with shotguns. After we filled out the Police report we were driven home. The next day we woke up and our other car was missing from our driveway as well, as they took our keys when they robbed us.


        • Yep. One of my cars just got stolen too. Something always gets stolen / broken into in this neighborhood when some dumbass around here hires a day labor crew of illegals.

          The polce were very helpful. They filled out paperwork. That then fell into a black hole.


          And that’s all they will ever do. It’s not their fault, it’s all they CAN do. They’re just the janitors, pretty much. They come in and mop up the bloody stain after the fact and fill out paperwork.

          Disarm? You have got to be fucking kidding or something.

      41. When the borrower cant pay back the lender the lenders come collect. preferably from unarmed borrowers.

      42. Walt and BRW, I’m with both of you. I’m going to fight whether I’m alone or not. I’m not interested in submitting to any 2-bit tyrant regardless of where they come from. BI, once again you are right on target. Peter parker, thanks for that article; very interesting and enlightening. I’m going to another gun show this weekend; gotta keep prepping. braveheart

        • You are not alone brother. No way.

        • I and my family will never be disarmed!

          • This is gonna be big guys..the future of our country depends on us..WE ARE THE PATRIOTS. We either stand up to tyranny and stupidity, or we live with it! Bravo Raylan!

        • @braveheart: left you a post last art.#1011562

      43. Being an Aussie, I can tell you the Chinese have their fingers in every pie they can, especially Australia.
        What they can’t hoard in their own country they buy outright or buy controlling interests in, in another.
        They own HUGE amounts of Aussie land and farms not only for food but to destroy PRIME farming land for the mineral/coal value. Gotta keep the infinite growth paradigm going at all costs eh.
        In Oz, there is a $230 MILLION foreign investment figure below which anyone can come buy what they want with no government oversight. Just crazy…
        So even if their own (2nd rate failing anyway)agricultural sector goes under they have massive resources in a lot of other countries (inc NZ, USA, Europe, S/Africa) they can use how they wish – food that WON’T be available to the populations of those countries when drought,floods, fires or other hard times hits as is all too often occurring nowadays. Long overdue for government to look after their own but that requires intelligence and foresight doesn’t it…

        • ZombieDawg….

          Do you have friends who are machinists?
          Know anyone owns a lathe & a vertical mill?

          …if so, go here & down load to your heart’s content….
          …good luck brother…er…I mean…G’day mate!

      44. I think they are buying everything in sight that they can while the American Dollar bills are still being accepted throughout the world. Once the world stops accepting our worthless paper, China will be sitting there with their hand caught in the cookie jar. When will they stop giving us credit? When will we stop asking for it?

        • Excellent questions. We got ourselves into this situation and we can’t borrow or drill our way out no matter how many restrictions are removed.

      45. According to Joe Biden, Obama and Eric ‘My People’ Holder are huddling to formulate their expected ‘executive order’ to roll back the Second Amendment. The target of this decree will be the hated conservative White rural demographic, and not the armed savages in inner city no-go zones who commit almost ALL the gun crime in this country and who are already allowed de facto carte blanche to commit mayhem at will.

        If the longed-for disarmament of the hated White male by these avowed anti-White racists is allowed to proceed unchecked, the savages among us will be freed (with official encouragement) to commit atrocities and terrorism on a scale hitherto unprecedented against law-abiding Euro-Americans who — according to Eric Holder — are ALREADY beyond the pale of legal protection.

        See here:


        As an anti-climax to this genocidally-motivated crackdown, if disarmament is successfully achieved, we can also expect Obama to confiscate all private 401k’s and retirement accounts on behalf of Lloyd Blankfein, to bring in tens of millions more Third Worlders to cement Whites’ status as a demonized and powerless MINORITY, and finally, to enact a crushing ‘slavery reparations tax’ on WHITES ONLY who will, as these measures are being implemented, be hunted like game by grinning, gold toothed subhumans with 80 IQ’s and AK-47’s — just as the disarmed Whites of South Africa are today being slaughtered without any vestige of the protection of LAW.

        Here is what Matt Bracken (author of “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”) has to say on the unmistakeable, present day precursors to the probable slow genocide that will follow the implementation of Obamite gun control policies:

        “In America today, we are seeing the beginning of an insidious scapegoating process, with older conservative white Christian males designated as the national Lucifer du jour, fair game for any vicious attack. Famous black movie stars joke about murdering white folks and white liberal media stars laugh along with them, conveying elite acceptance of the prevailing ‘evil whitey’ meme.

        “Filled from birth on a steady diet of the pervasiveness of white racism in America, rage-filled urban youths across the nation play ‘the knockout game’ with often fatal results for their randomly selected white or Asian victims. Meanwhile, the elite liberal media fail to notice the national scope of the almost weekly occurrences. Google ‘the knockout game’ and start reading the dozens of local stories that the media refuse to connect or identify as part of a dangerous national trend.

        “And it doesn’t stop with knocking out random passers-by with sucker punches and then kicking them in head until they are dead, disfigured for life, or in comas. Have you ever heard of ‘The Knoxville Horror’? How about ‘The Wichita Horror’? Google them, read the local news articles about them, and ask yourself how much national media attention those cases and others like them would garner had the races been reversed.

        “When alternately trumpeting or ignoring crime stories based entirely on the races of the perpetrators and the victims isn’t enough to convey the media’s full slant, they will invent stories or lie freely, as we saw in the Trayvon Martin case, with video footage edited and spliced to deliberately portray ‘white-Hispanic’ George Zimmerman as a racist killer. Selectively covering or ignoring crimes depending on the races of the victims and perpetrators is a vital part of the process of scapegoating. The unspoken message is clearly conveyed: crimes against disfavored groups just don’t matter. The violence prone absorb the lesson, and the result is a wave of racial attacks such as those described under the rubric of ‘the knockout game.'”

        Obama, seething with Franz Fanon-fueled hatred against Western Civilization is preparing to exact deadly ‘retribution’ from White America for the so-called sins of ‘Western Colonialism.’ He was nourished on anti-White vitriol by his communist, coal burning mother, his Weather Underground friends and his real biological father — CPUSA member Frank Marshall Davis.

        • I’ll say it again, I and my family will never be disarmed.

        • no sneakers

        • just waiting patiently for the outcome…by the time the final product gets farted out the other end of D.C. we’ll all have some pretty serious decisions to make.

          • Oh this is …. I don’t know???

            Follow along now..

            The argument is “2nd amendmant protects handguns, but not NECESSARILY powerful long guns”

            Maryland’s attorney argued Md citizens don’t NEED concealed carry because it’s perfectly legal to carry a long gun w/o a permit. ( it is, but f^cking wouldn’t recommend it. My buddy was surrounded by cops after opening his trunk at a business park, and letting a friend “glimpse” his new AR. Somebody called and said “a guys got a machine gun” My buddy would have been shot if he twitched, and the gun was locked in the trunk)

            But I digress. So if feds make long guns illegal, what is Md’s excuse now???

            So I guess I’m and idiot because I don’t believe in unicorns and rainbows. And my Government is my friend. And we have no enemies, foriegn or domestic. And the police will defend me??

            Sorry for this in advance…

            F^ck Stanley MacCrystal ( thanks alot DH), f^ck Piers Morgan, and f^ck that arrogant peice of shit John Stewart.

      46. Well done Mac….if people can’t see the writing on the wall with this article and stats…then, they never will!

      47. Hard to tell what is truly the underlying motivation from what little true info we have.

        If for war, would not preps be geared more towards oil storage, rubber for tires, sudden beefing up of “automotive industry” not to build cars, but armored personel carriers ? China already seems to be making everything anyhow, and needs everything but the kitchen sink in raw materials to produce its usual customary exports. And don’t forget, China has huge domestic problems as well, especially trying to keep hundreds of millions of the remaining rural citizens from rioting over food shortages.

        On the other hand, if accumulation geared towards raw materials to get out of world fiat currencies and prepare for high inflation, then concentration in acquisition of gold and food makes more sense.

        • ditto….I think they’re more concerned about internal stability and maintenance in the face of global economic collapse than preparing to overrun their neighbors.

      48. The Chinese can pretty much do as they like short of invading another country for resources (only the US is permitted to do that). China has a huge surplus of FRNs. They are doing the smart thing by buying up all the resources they can with FRNs. This is fine with the Fed. Keeps the reserve currency moving and uses up the surplus.The AfriCom branch of the military has spread to 38 countries.They will be securing those resources and selling them to China for FRNs. The Western banks with their NATO and US military arms “relieve” the countries of their resources and make China buy them with FRNs. Banks win…common man gets a fuckin’. Hang some bankers.

        • JRS

          I agree a no brainer. China sees the increase in money supply and logically deducts that whatever the cost is for things they want today the cost will be greater tomorrow. I would classify this as an incipient stage of a global increase in the velocity of the USD which should have an inflationary effect upon the currency due to globalization.

          The above could be looked as benign or a sign of abandoning the USD. I suppose the magnitude and duration of such purchases will be the determining factor.

          • Actually many of us would do the same if the tax penalty on the IRA wasn’t so severe or our 401Ks were accessible.

          • How does china spending usa cash its HAD for a LONG time now,cause inflation?…Unless the avg common consumer class IE: we the People get that cash to spend, it wont cause inflation by cash chasing goods etc.

            What cash china spends is going to Heads of states or corp’s right?…Like africas nations resources etc right?

            So unless alot of it gets into avg folks hands to spend it wont cause any inflation. And if china Had the cash for a decade now at least, its NOT new cash printing right?…So ergo zero inflation.

            Same for $27 trillion or whatever it really is now stimulus etc went to a Handfull of corrupt euro banksters and several NY banksters right?…Ergo zero inflation.

            Unless them banksters begins to pass out massive cash amounts to Us folks to spend? ergo zero inflation.

            Why do you think its going on that way since 2008 and zero inflation?…..Bernake aint joking when he says the fed will Not allow inflation to occure. So far hes done exactly what he said right?…Ergo zero inflation after Over 4yrs running now eh.

            While youse all focus on these issues of collapse etc, what if They are working Overtime to finish a several decades long plan to switch the entire worlds peoples to force us all to begin use of ONE world CASHLESS system, based upon Computer debits digital cash?

            If That happens?…Everything You thought You can trust about various pontificators and so called economic “experts” and Gold sellers etc will likly be proven all wrong. Then what?…REALLY! Then What?!

            Nobody wants to discuss this issue…Why?…We Have seen huge progress in last 20 yrs constantly moving the entire worlds peoples into Pay Online debts, pay bills, pay for “Stuff” online etc etc…Why would you not think the True goals is a total cashless world soon?

            With Fed laws banning gold or silver as was done prior in 1934 era….Then what?

            Barter? not without massive already set up systems to thwart Them banksters types and all their evilness and swindles.

            Y2K: what if, although yes some problems was certain due to y2k and computers…What If y 2k was used as an major excuse to allow massive intrusions into entire worlds computer systems globally to Tie them into a cashless global banksters system as I described prior?

            You must admit, y 2k was the Perfect scenario to thwart all suspicions of such while the, Fix computer year 2000 was being done eh.

            If this stuf aint real?..Why did I see on Live CSPAN Mr Greenspan head of Fed reserve, back a few yrs ago, answering a question from I think it was Ron Paul asking greenspan how far the fed was in makeing ready for a worldwide Cashless debit systems?

            Greenspan told the house reps committee, We have done well but while america is set to go, as is most banks in eurozones, it is still the Private sectors and stores etc which still require More Time to complete it all for a total cashless world system to operate smoothly etc.

            Should we think all that stuf was them joking around for kicks as they got not alot to work on?…Not Likley eh!

            I think most folks will be taken by suprize and tossed off balance when all we thought we can trust or believe by various “experts” in various “fields” of expertise especially money stuf and gold etc will be wrong headed big time.

            Time will tell I rekon. If it is cashless as I speculated? It should not take much longer probobly till we know either way eh. That also may be a major reason to try so badly to Disarm us all eh….Can’t have 100 million arrmed folks who may resist such a massive swindle system huh?

            Especially if such system may include Implanted chips! Lots of resistence then no doubt!

            Barely anyone seems to discuss this issue though…Why?

            • @Angelo–the new financial system will come, but it will be after the collapse and after some very severe pain and sufferings.

              Yes, Bernanke has kept interest rates at 0% to the Central Banks and Banks in general. But guess who is paying the 14%? Yes, us. We have seen it in inflation at all levels in the last four years. New John Deere tractors are over $250,000. Grain combines are over $300,000. Those two items were $80,000 less just two years ago.

              In past 4 years food inflation has averaged 14%.

              There is nothing we can do. The collapse is here. We need to be prepared at all levels.

              The embedded chip is here too.

              The only poetic justice in this entire depressive ordeal is that the Democrats that voted for our King will also suffer in this very same said meltdown. There shock-n-awe is coming.

              I cant wait for them to say, ‘Why didnt anybody tell us this was happening?’….

            • Angelo Mysteriouso

              “How does china spending usa cash its HAD for a LONG time now,cause inflation?”

              If China increases purchases of a given item by a tremendous amount it puts upward pressure on those items due to “supply and demand” by increasing demand. We buy those foreign goods too and regardless that money released ends up chasing other goods. Let China decide to buy 3x their usual supply of crude oil and see what happens to oil prices. Iron is no different, food is no different.

      49. Can’t say I agreed with him, but a friend in police work said “let them make us register them! Now, we can put anything we f**king want on a registered assault weapon! Also stated he’d never order his men to confiscate weapons….

      50. O I ALMOST FORGOT:


        • Thumbs down away!! I’m in Eisenkreutz’s corner. I know EXACTLEY how you feel E!!

          • Every pinko commie pos on tv, radio and print are quoting “The Good General” now.

            If they didn’t teach American history at West Point, or you forgot what’s in your oath, just shut up. I’m starting to worry about our military leadership. This is foundational stuff here.

            • I wonder how many visits General Stanly had to make to bang his head against that wailing wall in isreal, before he was okeyd to get his 2nd-3rd and 4th Star?

              Appears he perhaps banged his nogin once too often or too hard and something snapped!….Yeah gotta fight afganis 10,000 miles away from usa to keep Us free!

              Or else God forbid! several hundred Donky or camel operators will tote their AK-47’s and 100 rnds of ammo to america and force us into sharia law terror!

              Where can I get one of those camels or donkys thats able to Swim across vast oceans 3000 miles to “sneek” into americas shores and create havok?

              Amerika! we shall save and kep ya freedoms from a vast threat of toothless poor ragheads who lives in caves and are 10,000 miles away withOUT a navy or airforce or fighter jets or nukes or even field artillery!

              Oh thank you General superman!…What a bunch of swindlers. Sell their souls to Satan, and their services to Khazer kommie bolsheviks…Then cry for disarming us all!!!…he must have got a huge Book deal eh?!

              Thats the latest main Bribe tool aka Book Deals! quickest way to vast wealth and fame like a rock star for all willing to sell souls to Lucifer! his mom would be so proud eh.

              Now stanly will get his 5th star just as did that asshole who ran for prez against bush jr, recall him?..He assisted at WACO mass murders with the Tank and helo gun ships & .50 cal machine guns and klinton gave him his 5th star and made the clown Head honcho of NATO forces worldwide…Recall that obnoxious skinny rat general?

              What was his name? Oh yeah it was general Wessley Clark right?…Think so. Seems anybody over LT or Capt. now is suspect eh.

              Gotta screw american patriots to please their khazer kommie Masters of the Master Race tribe!





      51. good lord things are a happening fast aren’t they?

        • Just wait til Inauguration Day!


          • I was talking about OBAMA.

            I’m white, my wife is black…white piece of shit equals Obama. Fuck him.

            FUCK KING GEORGE!

      52. @BI: I saw a boat in the Wabash River today with big white letters on the side USGS, what is USGS doing in a boat in the Wabash river pray tell. It was around 50mi north of the Ohio River.

        • @Pale Rider: Over the last few weeks/months, others here have commented on stepped-up USGS monitoring in this area and other areas of Illinois. It’s in the Wabash Valley Seismic Zone (WVSZ) and is close to or part of the New Madrid Fault Zone. If you search the WWW, you’ll find several references to WVSZ.

          • OR: Thank you!

        • Call ’em up and ask, they’ll tell you. Probably monitoring stream conditions or counting crawdads or something like that.

      53. “The American People will never be disarmed!”

        This should be our slogan. Anyone in marketing knows that a slogan or catch phrase can spead like wild fire and give focus to a cause. Simple in message, it say’s it all.


      54. You people are unreal. You see a conspiracy around every corner. Why, I bet you think your dog is conspiring against you. You would not know reality if it bit you in the ass.

        • just being vigilant. i think ignoring everything and pretending nothing is wrong is what you would call “unreal”.

        • Yeah… conspiracy.. like when Bernie Maddoff stole over $65 BILLION…THAT’S WITH A “B” BONEHEAD….

          So I put all my eggs into silver and it doubled!

          Thank God and MAC for this site.

          We’ll save you a can of spam when the dollar is shit and the NWO boys invoke ww3 and hide out in their bunkers…
          What they don’t know is… we know where these bunkers are and we’ll be dumping concrete down the air shafts to seal them in for good.

          We’ll go live in their houses and enjoy their private estates.

          Another way of looking at things…
          The NWO bunker.. the place to go for fresh canibal meat! if things are that bad. ha ha

          Go back to watching TV and don’t taint OUR site with your ilk.

          I love this site… You guys rock…gives me hope that we are not all slaves.

          • you nailed it right on the head….the rich untouchables and the multigenerational old-money families of europe and the oil states manipulate the world like a giant corporation to suit their ends and means.

            We mean nothing to them.

        • Just curious, if that is your attitude, why do you visit this site?

          • because hes master_ _ _ _ _ G while he’s typing, and his mom wont let him out of the basement to see and talk to real people..probably because he’s a threat to society

        • wow…thanks JoeinNC….all of the sudden the world makes more sense now….it was all in my head….everything is fine, nothing to see here,,,move along, move along.

        • Look in a proctology textbook in the chapter on inflammation and you just might find your photo.

          • ^ To JoeInNC.

        • @joeNutCase:

          You bet? How much? Your life?

          ….count on it…..

 safe…stay the course..or STFU….BA.


      55. When in the course of human events…whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government…… Is it time?

        • Yeah…funny how the boneheads use the anti gun argument and invoke hunting…stating you don’t need a semi to hunt deer…

          uhhh duh… The founding fathers weren’t writing about hunting deer when they created our documents.

          Know what I mean stan?

          • Oh , I do..I competely know what you mean..I know what you mean so well that I think if I had enough money, I should be able to own a fully functional and armed A1M1 in my driveway, that way when those jackboots think they are coming for my guns it wont be a free WACO..there will be a willingness to that painting a clear picture?

        • Ah So!Chop Chop!! (thats all the chineese I learned so far from watching tv Karate movies)

          I call em all Bruce if I dont know their name…Cause they all look the same to me.

      56. Raylan Givens, I’m sorry to hear about what you and your wife suffered in the past and I’m totally with you about being disarmed. Nobody will disarm me either. BTW, that was some very good satire you posted in #1012456; it is most apropriate. Clipjoint, surprisingly the Wallyworlds here in memphis had some ammo in stock until last week. I’m going to a gun show here on the 12th and 13th and hopefully get some more. VRF, I’m with you all the way on #1012864. Hell, I’ve been carrying certain nonlethal self-defense items in my truck with me going back to the 90s. I don’t recognize any restrictions on self-defense, period! Let the “yellow peril” or anyone else come in to take guns and they’ll be commiting suicide. Braveheart

        • Braveheart, is that the show at the Expo? Cause I am going to. It’s not an unlikely coincidence that there would be two different shows on the same weekend but I am wondering if you are in the same area as me.

          • Duh, nevermind. I do that all the time. I see you are in TN.

      57. The preacher man says it’s the end of time
        And the Mississippi River she’s a goin’ dry
        The interest is up and the Stock Markets down
        And you only get mugged
        If you go down town

        I live back in the woods, you see
        A woman and the kids, and the dogs and me
        I got a shotgun rifle and a 4-wheel drive
        And a country boy can survive
        Country folks can survive…


      59. If China invades us when our currency crashes…they will be met with 100 million armed people. Don’t forget all the cutting instruments in this country too.

        I always here the argument that China has so many…but they are over there.

        Yes they could manufacture quite a war machine…yet a few well placed nukes would do well.

        Imagine all the anti-gun liberals if China invaded.
        If we have to liberate any camps… we’ll just let the NRA members out and solve many problems from these commies.


      60. I think we need to find out where the us govt. is storing all the rounds of ammo….

        Can I make that a class homework assignment for all you boys and girls. ha

        • That Dyke in DHS is storeing all the ammo at: Pedro Sanchez’s Dope Cartel HQ in Mexico.

          And the spare guns and AR’s are stored in Columbia at another huge drug cartel HQ/Home.

          While the NY banksters launder and Hold the massive dope cash profits.(and swipe 30% off the top to keep).

          Now they need ship Eric “the Racist” Holder AG to mexico to face assesory to mass Murder charges due to his and hobammys “Fast & Furious” swindle with guns to cartels.

      61. China’s rice imports up fourfold.
        China’s iron ore imports up where they have run out of storage space.
        China buying the hell out of powdered baby formula.

        Something in the milk ain’t clean folks. You don’t do this for shits and giggles. There’s a method to their madness. Either its for war preparation or they have become a huge prepper. Inside information is wonderful if you got it.



        pass it on!!!

        • Dude, that will be a bit late. Ammo up month was last October. I felt lucky to find some .22 at our local stores tonight….no.223 to be had, no buck shot to be had, just light target rounds. This was at two sporting goods stores in a larger city in the upper Midwest.

        • Ammo up with what?..TPAB started the shoratge a long time ago with thier 1.6 billion + round grab with our tax money!

          they knew this was coming, because they orchastrated it, way way in advance.

          If you didnt fill your orders months ago last year, you are in the dust pal..if you stuck your heels in the sand until after CT. F.F. went up, you were about a month or three too late.

          so convienient, aint it folks?

          WakeTFU..people..dam I hate to think I am only part of the 3%and that those numbers might be inflated..please show me im not alone..

          • Hank is 100% correct, and I gave him the thumbs-up. This was set up and planned a long time ago.

      63. All, We are being attacked on Feb 15th

        A headline from ZeroHedge: “Barring a Debt Ceiling Solution, the US Will Begin Defaulting on Feb. 15 2013”

        A headline from The Extinction Protocol: “A Near Earth Orbit (NEO) asteroid “Apophis” could destroy earth satellites around Feb.15 2013″

        Because bad things run in threes why not add.

        The E.O. to be signed Feb 15 to start gun control?


      64. sounds like China is getting ready for centrally-planned management of their population in terms of hyperinflation or a global economic crisis….they’re getting ready to be able to roll with the punches when supplies become scare and the cost of importing them becomes prohibitive.

        Or maybe they’re getting ready for war….who really knows?

        • Maybe china got huge stock shares in all stuf they been buying to raise stock prices and make huge profits from it while buying stuf they will need anyways?

      65. Screw you JoeinNC. You’re probably one of those slimey, cowardly, scum bag crapsters from the NSA or CIA whose been trained and set up to infiltrate sites like this to add your two cents of Fed Gov./NWO propaganda to “influence” us all.

      66. We Americans have forgotten alot about the paranoia folks had about their Govt just after the depression and WWII. I have decided to read some of those books and short stories again. One that I am re-reading is George Orwells classic ‘1984’. From that book, we get the infamous phrase–

        Big Brother is Watching You

        The book is fast reading and people should read the first two chapters and see if he was not visionary about Govt paranoia. It is free online.

        I like his three Govt Ministries–(1) Ministry of Love, (2) Ministry of Truth, and (3) Ministry of Plenty. Those ministries mirror today.

        Another short story back in those days was called ‘The Lottery’ written by Shirley Jackson. It shows a very plastic town with plastic people. It is only 4 pages.

        I want to know what our fellow Americans of past were trying to tell us. And we didnt listen.

        • UGLY: a few yrs ago I was reading all about the British Round Table group, which was the Original CFR in britian and which the CFR(council on foriegn relations aka private think tank swindlers honchos of ALL usa orgs like it) in NY was tied to.

          The article said George Orwell got his futureistic ideas when as a small boy of about 9-10 yrs old his uncle he lived with was a major member of the brit round table org.

          Article says orwell would sneek after being put to bed, and hed hide near stairway near door to uncles library/study room where it was used as the first HQ for meetings when round table guys first got started.

          Orwell would listen while his uncle and pals discussed future plans for Global govnt run by eliets, which his uncle was one of in england.(Jacobians aka Trotskyites)

          Later in life orwell used That info to write 1984 and several more books on futureistic stuf hes so famous for.

          Article said orwell wasn’t any type real prophet, he just Knew global plans from moment of inception when still ideas talked of by uncle etc.

          Them articles led me to begin to read all sorts of UN stuff about globalist NWO and agenda 21 stuf.

          I read the entire aprox 300+ pgs of UN charter on human rights and several others at UN’s website.

          Everything occureing today was all pre planned and wrote down at the UN in all the UN various meetings since 1945 era.

          Disarm us all began with JFK when he signed a treaty or some type official docs back in 1964!…Called something like “Total Global Disarament treaty of the United nations”….It mainly was about full disarming ALL worlds nations armed forces, and get rid of nukes, and cops guns too and finally Our guns!

          More reading I found the UN docs that calls for end of ALL armys in world, with Just one single armed force the UN owns and kontrols entirely…Orig plans calls for 75,000 man UN army but Klinton upped it to an even 100,000 man army of the UN.

          That army is to be called the “United Nations Rapid Response Force” or something close to it.

          The armed men to be made up from many nations armys and spec ops types. They are to be the ONLY armed folks worldwide! 100,000 army and even all worlds cops get disarmed!

          The UN army to be located strategically at several key locations in world, so whatever happens or wherever a Hot spot occures(riots-other disturbances warrenting armed responce etc) a division of the un army can get there within no longer than 8 hrs I believe it was.

          That UN army is whos planned to be world cops with NO other firearms or weapons of war allowed for any others or nations.

          Tie it all together with agenda 21 plans to force rural folks Back into Major Urban dwellings(ghetto huge citys and totally Multicult mixed race houseing) with high rise apts all of equal size, and with new built urban citys complete with public bussing and trains so NOBODY ever again needs any Autos or motorcycyes etc!

          Public Housing-Busses-Bycycles and Foot traffic Only!

          With ALL jobs located withn urban area you dwell in!

          Stores-jobs-housing all crammed together in New built UN “Human Setelments”!…A Color Map showed only 3-4 such human setelment dwelling sites in all of America!

          Then due to agenda 21 stuff, aprox 97% of lower 48 states will be Totally OFF limits to ALL human activity!

          Main centers of off limits had outer perimiter ‘zones” called “Buffer Zones” where Very Limited human activity is allowed…But Only bicycles or on Foot! ZERO wheels allowed period.

          Them buffer zones had a thrid layer of Zones farther outward fron center areas…Them is where Trains or busses was ok. Mainly all we seen with fed gov buying up or locking down vast lands everywheres in usa is ALL due to fit this agenda 21 agenda plans.

          Their goals is to make it so that NOBODY(except the 1% eliets like al gore of course) can cross over to other side of nation. Once located in a Human settlement…Thats where You will reside and work or play mostly the rest of Your lives!

          This stuf is the real reasons to disarm us all because They Knows none of us will ever go for this crap.

          Our Mission will be to Force Them to get Fucked! and Remain fucked!

          We Must organize and retake control of usa, and tell Them eliets they got 3 choices. Repent and fix all they broke..Or Pack their bag and exit america forever…OR prepare for battle!

          Because none of us is willing to ever live like Rats in some multicult madhouse human settlement, while the elits are allowed to own massive lands with fancy home compounds with air fields and jets etc. Right smack in middle of vast millions acres of Off limits(to us only!) former america.

          Their new final end date as of several yrs ago was pused up to occure in 2020…Thats their final date of NWO gobal world. It was orig set for aprox 1980, till they seen that wont fly…So they upped it till 2020 ad.

          This stuff is ALL avail at various online sites and was(still?) at the UN’s own website also. Not much is hidden for them who cares enough to know. Got kids? Grandkids? want Them to live as Rats?…Me neither we need Leadership and organizing.

          • @Angelo….Thanks, no I did not know that bit of history. Very interesting, and no wonder he was so accurate.

            Past, the ideas were ther but not the technology. Today, the idea is still here along with the technology.

            Big Brother Really is Watching Us.

            Also, it amazed me of 1984 Orwell’s Thought Police. He wrote in journal ‘Down With Big Brother’ and tried to hide it but the Thought Police were already there. The Thought Police already know what you are thinking and doing.

            Orwell had it right, but I did not know he had inside knowledge.

            Thanks for that lesson in history.

            Also to Mac, fine article on the China stuff. If this does not wake Americans up, nothing will….

      67. Lets pray things don’t fly apart. But if it does, I hope people will rally around the Constitution. I don’t think the country would be in the shape it’s in if Congress and the Pres used the Constitution as a guide. peace

      68. Rule’s I try to live by.
        1.Do not guess,unless your an expert in that field,and have firsthand knowledge.
        2.Do not take any thing as gospel,unless it is the gospel.
        3.You don’t know ,what you don’t know. find out.
        4.look up all info/intell from a few sources before making judgement’s. there is such a thing as an educated guess.
        5.research, research,research.
        did a little research and found this on a site.
        this kind of nutshell’s it. sorta!!
        Originally Posted by R. Jackson, A.J.
        When the President acts pursuant to an express or implied authorization of Congress, the President’s authority is at its greatest.
        When the President acts in the absence of either a congressional grant or denial of authority, he can only rely upon his own independent powers, but there is a zone in which he and Congress may have concurrent authority. When this is the case, the test depends on the imperatives of events and contemporary imponderables rather than on abstract theories of law.
        When the President takes measures incompatible with the expressed or implied will of Congress, the authority of the President is at its lowest.

        In summary, the President apparently may act by executive order:
        a. Whenever authorized explicitly or implicitly by his Constitutional grant of powers;
        b. Whenever authorized by Congressional statute;
        c. Whenever in his best judgment the common defense or general welfare of the country requires resolute action prior to a time when Congress can be assembled and authorize such action — presuming Congress has not forbidden such action, and subject to Congress second-guessing his action.

      69. DISARMING THE GENTILES of their guns is not dissimilar to forcing air travelers to remove their shoes in TSA lines.

        Under the guise of “protecting” Americans, what really occurs during the TSA screening process is the emasculation of male travelers via the shedding of shoes, stripping of belts (of which guns are associated), the forced “surrender” in Chertoff’s Porno Scanners, and the mandatory penis and buttocks grabbing by a male assist.

        The subliminal message is clear:

        To humiliate, weaken, dehumanize, and most importantly, to desensitize American citizens to totalitarian rule—of which—Jewry holds all the political levers of control.

        The Jewish programme of totalitarian rule is fully spelled out in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a blueprint for international Jewish hegemony penned by Jewish financiers and activists at the turn of the 20th Century.

        In Protocol #5 the Jewish Elders state:

        “We shall create an intensified centralization of government in order to grip in our hands all the forces of the community. We shall regulate all the actions of our subjects by new laws.

        “These laws will withdraw one by one all of the indulgences and liberties which have been permitted by the Goyim.” View Entire Story Here & Here.

        Indeed, “one by one” beginning with the banning of semi-automatics, will then be followed by background checks, urine samples, peeing into cups at designated medical facilities, more false flags, revoking of Concealed Gun Permits, then finally the confiscation of all “assault weapons” from rifles, to revolvers, to pistols.

      70. I hope that someone, somewhere, (perhaps smokin okie) is recording all that is evolving in a “wire back notebook” somewhere….all of what we are experiencing needs to be WRITTEN down somewhere….by someone….so it will never be forgotten…


        • FOB: aren’t you paying atten?…The post just above yours by bobof michigan stated exactly what you asked for!

          Total Full Documentation! IE: its all been wrote as of 1899 era by the writers of the Protocals of the Elders of Zion…Along with the 47 Kommie Goals from 1964 which detail all goals for kommie total takeover of America!

          The ONLY kommie goal yet to be finished of all 47 goals is Disarm us citizens fully!

          Read them Protocals don’t get fooled by those who claim its a “Forgery” yeah sure it is…Whats a forgery?…A COPY of the ORIGINAL right?…yes right!

          Todays evidence of such exacting protocals being done everywheres nationwise are Overwhelming.

          The question is Why should Our 98.6 % of folks of america allow Their tribes meesely 1.4 % to totally control weather or not You/We live or die and how we live?

          America needs become nation#110 in Booting Khazer ashkaNAZIs OUT!

          Or suffer as did Russia for 75 yrs of Brutal forced slavery and poverty in Gulags of siberia…Wake up GOYIMS!

          READ the Protocals and Kommie goals to control america…Both from/By the same group. Kommie Khazers.

          READ the 1922 henery Ford(yes That henery ford founder of fomoco!) aprox 130 pg phamplet/book called “The International Jew”(avail Free online!)

          READ Brother Kapners xallant website! READ & LEARN before its too late.

        • Please READ before you write.

          “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies that were distributed throughout the US in the 1920s.”

          • Although the use of the phrase ‘anti-Semitic’ is inappropriate because Semitic people encompass a large amount of people in the area of the middle east and has nothing to do with Jews.

            • The term Semite means a member of any of various ancient and modern Semitic-speaking peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including; Akkadians (Assyrians and Babylonians), Eblaites, Ugarites, Canaanites, Phoenicians (including Carthaginians), Hebrews (Israelites, Judeans and Samaritans), Ahlamu, Arameans, Chaldeans, Amorites, Moabites, Edomites, Hyksos, Arabs, Nabateans, Maganites, Shebans, Sutu, Ubarites, Dilmunites, Bahranis, Maltese, Mandaeans, Sabians, Syriacs, Mhallami, Amalekites and Ethiopian Semites. It was proposed at first to refer to the languages related to Hebrew by Ludwig Schlözer, in Eichhorn’s “Repertorium”, vol. VIII (Leipzig, 1781), p. 161. Through Eichhorn the name then came into general usage (cf. his “Einleitung in das Alte Testament” (Leipzig, 1787), I, p. 45). In his “Geschichte der neuen Sprachenkunde”, pt. I (Göttingen, 1807) it had already become a fixed technical term.[6]

              • Today’s Jews aren’t even Semites! They’re Asiatic-Turks. They have as mush of a genealogical connection to the original Hebrews, as Eskimos do to our American forefathers.

                The Thirteenth Tribe, by Arthur Koestler (Jewish)


                A recently completed genome study confirms Koestler’s (Jew) scholarship.

                The ‘chosen’ people? READ… in actuality, the ‘posin” people!

      71. Yo BI,

        What’s up on the Carlsberg Ridge? …There’s a whole lot of ‘slippage’ there…what’s your take on this Friend?

      72. @ EVERYBODY. Watch Larry Pratt take that Atlantic Ocean wetback piers morgan to the toolshed and give him a througly classic ass whooping. That bum crack still insists that he ONLY wants assault weapons banned, yet this utter liar said he wants ALL 300 million guns banned, ALL. What a liar. Larry Pratt was so in control over piers morgan, and why not he has an IQ 75 points higher. Rerun is on in two hours at 12:00 AM eastern time.

        You should also watch that moran aariana huffington talk about to morgan about how “wonderful” it is that walmart has taken a stand against guns. You should see aariana huffington rock back and forth and keep putting her hands towards her lower half. It looked like she was adjusting a dill pickle that she had rammed up between her legs.

      73. @ All,

        I am having distinct difficulties getting into, and posting on site presently…my resonses may be somewhat curtailed thereby….

        @ BI, thanks for the recent info (from the last posting forum on the Carlsberg area, diregard may previous query Friend, proceeding onward…..

        The new region I alluded to previously has been designated by NOAA as #11654 and it is rapidly becoming a subject for concern broadly. Due to the influence of this spot and this one alone we saw the 20:00 Penticton Flux shoot p to nearly 170…same having rsien over 65 points in just a matter of days. Such levels have bot been seen since old NOAA 11545 was present on the Solar Face back in the spring.

        \ The current NOAA sunspot number (smoothed count) has risen like a rocket in the las 5 days and is at levels not seen since November of 2011.

        If that weren’t enough, 11654 appears to be both growing and is now showing clear signs of becoming more complex; specifically, the lead section of the spot group is showing a strongly positive polarity insinuation into it’s otherwise negative polarity bulk. Additionally, the Doppler (HMID) imaging for the region is showing extremely strong areas of very high velocity gradients equal to or possibly stronger than seen in the spring with NOAA 11545.

        In a word I would descibe 11654 as “Ominous” in it’s current potential…’anything’ could proceed from this region if further growth is observed. updates to follow as warranted…Watch this one Folks, carefully…..


        • @ JustOneGuy. That sunspot is looking bad, I try to equate sunspots to thunderstorm activity in the plains, you can see the updrafts and the buildings of the clouds much like the Sun. This higher magnetic level should increase the earthquake activity on this tiny planet in comparison to the size of the Sun. I thin something like this looks like it is capable of an X-5 or so in the future, maybe even an X-10. OR it could just fizz out.

          There have now been 14 earthquakes in the Carlsburg Ridge area, and a swarm like this is a massive event that no one seems to be following. I have seen much smaller swarms on other parts of the Ridge, like 5 or so, bit 14! There is a lot of energy being transferred from likely the China or the Nepal/Pakistan/India area. I am expecting a very large earthquake from this area within a little over 2 weeks. OR an earthquake of large size in one of the other areas I mentioned. It is coming, and January is famous for some big quakes, like because of the angle of the planet. Earthquakes occur also in somewhat higher numbers when the planet is tilted more towards the Sun in June and July in the north.

          By the way, I want to thank you for the interesting knowledge on not using an iodized salt base for nasal spray, only pure sea salt. I have had some awful sinus infections and I use to fill up the nasal sprays with iodized salt after the original solution ran out, those salt sprays are expensive. I would cure my sinus problems but burn my nasal cavities in doing so. I really had a terrible sinus infection that bad my front teeth extremely sensitive to the cold air, it was very painful. I don’t trust dr.quack, so I inudated my sinuses with sea salt solution every 2 hours for several days. It WORKED and cleared up and didn’t torch my sinuses. Excellent advice.

          See how someone out there with some information can help others? This is why I so much appreciate when people out their share their time and what they know with everyone else, it helps us. This is why I become so upset with these trolls that attack the people here, that have so often assisted in making others’ lives easier with what they know. A big thumbs up for all those that contribute to the site.

          • Third attempt….
            Good Evening Friend,

            I am sorry to hear of you problems with ‘die nase’, when I was young I had AWFUL problems with those…I fully sympathize with any who are so cursed, such a misery. I am glad that the advice regatding the sea salt was useful. You are wholly correct in asserting that there is SO much knowledge that can be here shared twixt us all. I have learned so much of which I otherwise had (at times) no clue at all and for such I too, am grateful.

            While I’m here I’d like to specifically thank ‘kimintn’ for noticing my absence as did others as well: It always nice to know that one is appreciated and that one’s absence is noticed!

            Many thanks for the information on the Carlsburg Ridge activity, though I am not the Master of all that is siesmic I do (and have) spent qite a bit of time watching same over the last year or so and when I saw that activity my very first thought was, “I wonder what BI’s ‘take’ is on this?”…activity there is so unusual by my own observations.

            The newly emerged sunpsot, NOAA 11654, is my present overiding concern however. I haven’t seen anything with this potential since the really bad NOAA 11545 last spring. That one did not end up being consequential in the end but this one IS well on it’s way to becoming something similar. If you get a moment free stop by over at solen-dot-info and take a look at the graph at the beginning of the page….you’ll instantly see why I’m so concermed here – pay special attention to both the curve plotted for the measured Penticton Flux and the NOAA ‘smoothed sunspot’ number plotted thereat. Yes, the hair is beginning to rise upon the nape of my neck at this point. The next 24 hours should allow us to get a better ‘read’ on just what this thing might become: I will say this though…this spot is NEW, and therefor is VERY early in it’s developmental cycle. Thusly, it may become much more than we now see. The only word which jusmps to mind here is “Ominous”. Kevin – over at SolarHam – is watching this closely as is Jan over at Solen. A lot of people are concerned at this point….

            As it happens,this is my second effort tonight to respond to you…the first was apparently ‘eaten’ when I attempted to post-in. Keep an eye on all things terrestrial in the meanwhile and I will do the same for all else. Incidentally, “Happy New Year” Friend!

            “Auf Wiedersehen zu Alles und Guten Nacht!” 🙂


      74. My old ass cannot run. My old ass won’t run. My old ass will stay here in my old home. If they come a knock-in to take my guns away, I will make my stand or should I say my own personal 1776 right here in my living room. From my old couch behind my old shotgun. They can have my weapons after they have killed me, but I will be damned to give them away willingly. I’m not a gun nut and don’t care for hunting or about a machine gun with fancy gadgets on it. I have my weapons because other men in older days went through the exact same thing and they died to give us the right to defend ourselves. I fought along old soldiers who’s blood was shed to give other people in other nations the same freedoms that we once held in our nation and their blood is precious to me. None of these politicians that want to control us served.

        • Olden–

          They may kill you, but they will NEVER DEFEAT you!

        • Olden: I’m with you all the way (also to old for all that other stuff). Hey you got room for another old guy behind your couch?

      75. Timothy, I’m in memphis, Where are you? Braveheart

        • Idaho. We have a gun show this weekend at the Fair Grounds. I’m deciding whether to get a tactical shotgun, or instead, spend that money on ammo for the firearms I already have.

      76. I know why China is doing this. China is doing this because they have been told by America what is about to happen. Since we owe China so much, China is taking now as much food as they can. In February America will have to decide whether to pay off China or the Social Security recipients in our nation. The presses are running full blast and they cannot stop. They are trying to keep the lies going and making it look like it is all hunky dory. The Chinese have been warned about our collapse. In exchange our politicians have promised the Chinese and Russians that they will disarm their people in order to make the transition a little more smoother. The transition being America being controlled and taken over by the nations that we owe so much to. Our government will eventually use food as leverage against us. Our stomachs will win at the end of the day. You can’t eat ammo or guns. But you can turn them over to our government and they will give you food in exchange. This is why they don’t want you to have gardens or to be self sufficient. Also this is why our so called border walls are backwards, you can come in, but it’s terribly difficult to escape. So when they shut the border down we will be prisoners to them. I believe that they will use us as slave labour and they will use us as another pawn. We will be the workers to the nations that will eventually take over us. All of this will happen within the next few years. More and more closer to the end every day.

      77. Looks like a red alert. Wouldn’t worry about the Chinese to much though’ just trying to survive.

      78. The Chinese are not stupid, and they have the wealth to prepare for ‘the seven lean years’ as the Bible calls them. The US has stockpiles of oil, wheat, corn, etc., for strategic reasons, too. Just common sense.

      79. Pale Rider, I just read your post for me at the last article. Thank you for that. Your quote from the TN Cons. is spot on. The feds make it clear through words and deeds every day what they have in store for us and it’s not good. it’s no different from all other evil manmade governments that have existed on this earth since the book of genesis. How can anyone in their right mind think they have any obligation to such an evil cabal, knowing what their true agenda is? All of us, as preppers and gun owners, are being forced into a nightmare scenario none of us ever wanted. our only real option is to stand and fight. Surrender is not an option. There is no guarantee of survival in surrender. BI, here’s something for you. Direct link:

      80. “It doesn’t add up. None of it makes any sense.”

        So….now prepping doesn’t make sense? I’m confused.

      81. Gingrich: Use Debt Ceiling Fight to Stop Obama Gun Ban
        Wednesday, 09 Jan 2013 10:50 PM
        By Todd Beamon

        Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Republicans should use the upcoming debt-ceiling talks to craft legislation that would block Obama from doing anything that is unconstitutional in light of the administration’s suggestion they may bypass Congress to craft laws banning certain types of guns.

        “Iin March, the Congress has a continuing resolution,” Gingrich told Newsmax. “The government is going to run out of money. The Congress has to pass the continuing resolution.

        “They should put in a prohibition on spending to block anything that the president does that is illegal,” Gingrich said. “Congress has absolute authority to control spending. The House Republicans should craft into the continuing resolution a rule that the president is blocked from doing anything unconstitutional.”

        Gingrich, who ran for the 2012 Republican nomination and lost to Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney, has been vocal in his support for Americans’ rights to bear arms.

        • And don’t think that Obama et all didn’t strategize their next spending spree??

          Remember, LEARN CHESS.

      82. when they go to war China will be very resourceful having millions of labourers in munitions factories making bullets and guns for a bowl of rice a day. + for loyalty and hard work they will get rewarded with lands and possessions in the new conquered lands of north america. any of yall speek cantonese

      83. i’m not in the habit of getting “preachy” on any site i visit and many of you won’t accept what i’m about to say but here goes:

        the world will soon experience a chain of irreversable events which will include wars, large numbers of missing(disappeared) people, extremes in weather with all the consequences they bring, and global domination then failure. We’re in the prelude to the “wars” and as things continue to degenerate worldwide, there will come the day that millions will simply vanish – it’s called the “rapture”… what follows no one should want to experience… China and Russia plau prominent roles in the events following the rapture as do Israel and Egypt…

        Christ IS coming, folks whether it is believed or accepted. So, you ask, “why do i prep?” because i have no idea God’s timeframe nor any idea how long this chain of events will draw out… my plan is to be as ready for the bad times BEFORE He comes and be prepared for WHEN He comes… are you?

        • Plus…. when I’m caught up you all are welcome to all my stuff. Keys to the house, cars and trucks will be on my desk. Enjoy! BTW, If I don’t see ya here, I’ll see ya hear!

      84. Just maybe the weather wars that have been going for some time are now poised to do some REAL damage.

        The US Military in conjunction with Raytheon (and maybe other private corporations) has been engaged in at least one scheme to spray chemical particulants (aluminum and barium for two) into the stratosphere to purportedly cool the earth by refracting sun rays back towards the sun. Filling the stratosphere with metals has the interesting byproduct of enabling all kinds of electrical warfare innovations.

        Do some research. We may be reaching a tipping point.

      85. I am certainly watching world events very closely and find the article very informative. However being in Canada people as a whole are still sleeping as well. I do try and wake people up but after a while it gets very old when they look at you as if you have 2 heads. My trust is in the Lord but the bible tells us to be vigilant. The Christian population is probably one of he worst offenders of sleeping through everything and they have the best instruction manuel in the world, most just do not believe they need to make preparations. The Lord will take care of them which I believe as well. However the bible is full of examples of men of God preparing for rough times ahead. The first I think of is Noah. Anyway the only way I try and wake people up any more is give them some websites and speak to them when they show an honest interest. Wake up please people it is truely going to be a rocky road ahead. I pray for all of you and God Bless

      86. They are probably using (getting rid of) their American dollars to buy stuff before the dollar implodes.

      87. Ok, I would like someone to “talk me out of” what I am going to write here. That is, tell me your reasoning why I am wrong.

        First off, I am FOR gun ownership in general. Pistols, Rifles (Bolt-action)and Shotguns. I am NOT for assault rifles (AR-15’s and the like). I do not see the reason for average citizens to have them. I have never heard of a family (or individual) defending themselves with one, the story is ALWAYS, as we recently saw with the lady in Georgia, a pistol or shotgun. The stories that feature assault rifles are always gang-related, mass-murders and the like. Please explain where I am wrong here.

        Second, I do not know where people are getting the idea that by having these assault rifles, and even pistols, rifles and shotguns, that they could seriously hope to win against a military force, foreign or domestic. A National Guard/LEO type of force? Maybe. A regular Army style force? No way. I just don’t see it. It will have land mines, mortar rockets, RPG’s, Tanks, and ultimately, if that isn’t effectively getting the job done, drone strikes and cruise missiles. If it TRULY comes to an all-out, SHTF-type of takeover, foreign or domestic, we are quite simply outgunned. Please explain where I am wrong here.

        • ~~~First off, I am FOR gun ownership in general. Pistols, Rifles (Bolt-action)and Shotguns. I am NOT for assault rifles (AR-15′s and the like). I do not see the reason for average citizens to have them~~~

          I’m just a female—BUT, ‘don’t take a knife to a funfight’.

          Most here will understand that phrase.

          • gunfight–or for editing.

          • JayJay,

            Fair enough, but when have you heard of average citizens going toe-to-toe with gang bangers and mass murderers? Are you speaking in terms of a SHTF situation when looters and gangs roam the street? I can see then how having an assault rifle would behoove you; bringing a gun to a gunfight.

            How about though, taking the assault rifles out of the equation to begin with? You don’t have them, THEY don’t have them.

            Any comments on the second point?

          • @ JayJay

            I have been around full auto weapons for many years. I do not own one because of the high price of ammo and the MACHINE GUN itself is expensive. One afternoon shoot with friends, was about 10,000 rounds of various calibers. The local police showed up and was looking at six weapons. The owners pulled out the paperwork but the policeman just glance over them and he went on his way. I enjoy shooting the MG-34. Twenty seven pounds of cold rolled steel at 600 rounds per minute. If you ever shot one you can feel the command it exerts and know the respondsibility of owning such weapon. It is fun but very expensive. Notice all the anti gunners hate guns till they shoot one. Then THEY want one.

        • We haven’t won anywhere yet with all those toys.

      88. @Yental…I agree! “Our war is here!” We are being disarmed by our own government because we broke a basic life principle. If you borrow something, return it or pay it back.
        Fact: The US government has sold us out and borrowed trillions of dollars from China that we cannot pay back. That alone… is simply… not right.
        Fact: China has 200 million soldiers in their standing Army.
        Fact: The USA has a three million soldiers in their standing Army(includes Marines, Navy, Air Force) with one million in reserve. Do the numbers!
        Fact: China’s population is over one billion. They need resources to feed their people, which leads us back to fact #1 we owe them! This you cannot dispute.
        Here’s the deal: China is asking the Obama administration to disarm the American public so they can take the “Bread Basket of the World” and feed their people!
        Our reply to the Obama Administration: No surrender!
        Any questions?

        ● Pledge not to use an Executive Order to restrict the 2nd Amendment rights of law abiding Citizens.
        ● This is a petition to prevent the Obama Administration from issuing Executive Orders restricting the 2nd Amendment rights of law abiding citizens.

        ● Share this link & Get over there & sign it!

        • Prez Orders are NOT law..Read us const 1st page…Such petitions say You agree a prez has such athourity to make law by decree…he dont!

          ALL eec orders Can do leagally is exprss will of prez as to what HIS fed workers, under His 1/3rd branch of fed gov should do…BUT even They can Refuse if it conflicts with Their Oaths to Uphold const AND BOR!

          By use of these type petitions all who do it are showing total Lack in understanding what congress and senate jobs regarding LEGIT laws are.

          WAKE UP! besides do you really think Begging this kommie prez is going to work?

          Sad to see so many too lazy to read the FIRST few paragraphs of us const to see what IT states about WE the People NEVER have to obey false uncnst laws or prez decrees etc! WAKE UP!

          • Angelo

            “Such petitions say You agree a prez has such athourity to make law by decree…he dont!”

            The law is the law when the Rule of Law is followed. All that did not stop Franklin Roosevelt from confiscating personal gold in 1933.

            The “He can’t do this and he can’t do that” rings hollow then he does this and that.

      90. China has built new cities that are entirely vacant. Our MSM claims that China has screwed up and created a real estate bubble. Then a Chinese General stated publicly, that they know their occupied cities will be attacked, so now they have new cities already available for the refugees. In China, every month, an entire province goes on total war footing. They alternate provinces. They practice civil defense, para-military training, and computer hacking. 1.3 billion, not counting allies.

        • Sounds like a real stupid china general eh..he actually thinks if ocupied citys got bombed the new Unocupied citys wont too?!!!!

          What a genius general!

      91. In 2008 I was working for one of the worlds largest companies as a subcontractor and all of the management were Chinese. They told me in advance of the crash of 2008 and they told me other things that have all come to pass and the last thing they told me was to learn to speak Chinese and I knew what that meant.
        The earths largest standing army is not in China, it is in the USA and it consist of all free gun owners not the US military.

      92. This is now beginning to make sense, let’s see, Obama wants to disarm Americans, regardless of the fact that the VAST majority are dead set against this, China is stockpiling, the US Government has purchased upwards of two billion rounds of hollow point ammo, in the very caliber that police use, .40, and the msm is championing gay marriage, a socialist lifestyle, and adamantly refuses to report NEWS. Yeah, I think I am going to procure more supplies, this is definitely not going to end well. Any, and I mean ANY gun control measure is a declaration of war upon the American people, and from the looks of things, it is coming sooner than we know.

        • Excellent summation, CJMartel!

          Stack ’em high.

      93. ever read about the destruction of Jerusalem 70ad well General Titus (rome) let all the passover pilgrims in so swelling the population than he surrounded the city sat back and watched while all the different factions killed each other while the general population starved to death after a few months he walked in killed the straglers sacked and burnt the city to the ground if you guys gonna do some house cleaning just make sure the yellow man aint sitting on the lawn

      94. Just because im paranoid doesn’t mean they’r not out to get me.

      95. Having China manufacture computer chips for OUR Navy weapons system just seems really, really dumb.

      96. Don’t know where you people live but the zipper heads have allready taken over California……

      97. Last year, a Rothschild said the future is in China. Is anyone so far into Wonderland that they believe Obama controls the launch codes for our strategic nukes? Do you think the order would actually go out to our boomers to deep fry China? Our military will fight China with what tactical weapons we have in theater. The globalists want the U.S. to loose. I predict Israeli subs nuking the East Coast, while Chinese subs work over the West Coast. Our strategic weapons will never be used, unless skilled loyalists seize them from globalist control and arm them. A mininuke into the City of London would be a good start.

        • Angry old man: yep and are you aware that in last 2 yrs or so germany not only agrred to Build and supply 6 new top grade Nuke powered subs to Isreal, but germany also Paid for at least 75% of 4 subs so far while still building remaining two subs also german paid for!

          Oh and all 6 nuke powered subs can also be Nuke Arrmed!

          Now besides isreal holding euros major citys hostage with threats to nuke every eu city if any go against anything isreal/jews desires,,,,But now them blood thirsty bolsheviks(jews) can threaten the whole world with 1/2 dozen subs loaded full of nuke missles!

          Hard to believe after so long germany still dont get it? They keep paying reperations every time any holyhoax “survivor”(all 1.2 Million and adding More daily!) whines for more $$$$$.

          • GTFO and go suck Don Black’s asshole at Stormfront some more, Nazi fagbitch. Israel needs those nukes for the same reason we need our guns: to keep statist ass-suckers like you from perpetrating another very real Holocaust.

      98. China’s money is no good either …….ANY unbacked money is no good . Another thing to look at is the fact that China has written off Russias debt . Is there something going on there ? you tell me .

      99. Any politician who knowingly and willfully supports legislation which causes the manifestation of a dangerous condition to law abiding citizens is guilty of political malfeasance, criminal negligence and reckless endangerment when factual data and evidence irrefutably show a causal relationship guaranteed to be engendered by the legislation.

        What would cause a politician to do such a thing?

        1. The inability to understand the synergy of facts and the causal relationship- highly improbable (but not impossible)

        2. The actual desire to cause and make manifest the harm guaranteed to be engendered by the enactment of the legislation- quite probable- we in fact see the criminal pedophile ring operating at the highest levels of British government, with a subsequent quashing of investigations related to the case- psychopaths in public office using their power to protect themselves from justice and in all likelihood to perpetuate their crimes against innocent children-

        3. The politicians are being COERCED. That this has happened throughout history is well-known. In fact coercion is the hallmark of organized crime, and it takes many forms. Organized criminals can introduce an honest individual to a criminal activity in an environment where the activity seems acceptable, then extort that individual through the use of damning evidence gathered at that scene. One ACT is all it takes, and that individual is then basically owned by the criminal conspiracy forever. Happens everyday. Threats of murder, torture, kidnapping, and the rest are all well known- see John Perkins’ CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HIT MAN- . And this has been happening since the beginning of time.

        We see every government and political system throughout time eventually becoming corrupt and collapsing. Some would say this is due to the inherently evil nature of man. I disagree. I say it has been due to the lack of effective tools to fight the eternal and omnipresent activity of COERCION PERPETRATED BY CRIMINAL CONSPIRACIES. But now we do in fact have a tool which will forever end all criminal conspiracies. It is SODIUM PENTATHOL.

        Imagine all the death and misery caused throughout time by the unchecked activities of criminal conspiracies. It boggles the mind- words really can’t express the horror. Misery on a global scale perpetuated for all time. Suffered by men women and children. The conceptualization of this condition in and of itself is almost enough to kill a decent person. Intolerable. INTOLERABLE!!!

        We as a people must come to the conclusion that the truth is the only thing which will set us free and allow us to begin to live in accordance with the word of God/ The Creator. Yes we have other problems, but we will never be able to address them in a meaningful manner until we first rid ourselves of the evil of criminal conspiracies. We can finally do this if we have the will to institutionalize the judicious and humane use of SODIUM PENTATHOL. The first and foremost precept of it’s use must be that all coerced individuals can not and will not be held responsible for their actions, including the initial transgression which became the basis for the coercion, if they co-operate fully with authorities. GOD/THE CREATOR LOVES THE TRUTH!! ALL LIES COME FROM SATAN/THE EVIL ONE!!! FEEL THE HOPE!!! LET’S BEGIN A NEW EPOCH, ONE FINALLY BASED ON THE TRUTH!!! AN END FOR ALL TIME TO CRIMINAL CONSPIRACIES, IN THE NAME OF ALL WHO HAVE SUFFERED AND DIED AT THEIR HANDS!!! THE DAWN OF A NEW AGE FOR HUMANITY!!! WE CAN DO IT WITH THE HUMANE AND JUDICIOUS USE OF SODIUM PENTAHOL!!!

      100. The truth, which is hard to see through all the propaganda, but only known when you go and see the people and places our (US) government tells us to hate… is that they are people just like us, also being lied to, though not nearly as much, as the US has a solid record of killing and destruction, and imprisons more of its own people than any other country on earth. Yet, we are told that the USA is the most kind and giving. It’s all bullshit. I live in Asia… and I have to say that frankly, I trust China more than Washington D.C. And as to their buying up goods… that’s because they are smart. They are some of the best business thinkers out there. They are also doing a much better job at governing four times as many people as does the USA. Think about that. Look in Google Earth at some of their cities and you’ll quickly see that they are more modern and well planned than in the US. Don’t follow the stupidity that says get behind the US bastards who’ve brought us the current global meltdown on so many levels. Get behind any movement to overthrow Obama and his rulers. They are the threat. Hold on to the Constitution. It’s all we have left.

      101. Obama and his rulers are like Don King… setting up a fight so he can profit without regard for the participants.

      102. We have a huge problem with worldwide drought and climate change, and all you people can worry about is your guns and President Obama becoming a dictator?

        That’s absurd and you know it.

      103. The Chinese consume 200 million tons of rice per year!

        So importing 2 million tons is really not a whole lot.

        Their people are just getting used to living prosperously.

      104. I had a dream in 1995. It was very vivid. The Chinese army had invaded the USA, took over my house, placed me and my daughter in the basement and we were slaves to them.

        China has already taken us over.

        • Farmers Daughter

          Don’t bet.

          China is holding paper assets. The real power lay in the Military. The US is global in that respect while China only truly can project power within driving and walking distance.

          • Silly argument about military…in today’s environment.

            China grow to be powerful through trade not war.

            Spending of money through miliary means no money for your people and sure way to bankcruptcy.

            Now you say, military is more important than trade to get your “paper” money …is more important

            China one thing can put US’s economy to its knees if need be… just tell the world China is dumping all US currencies and you will see the domino effect 100 times the China’s holdings of US bonds or dollars.

            China does not need to fire a bullet to put USA to the dogs Zimbabwe way.

            China’s growth has been particularly credited to the huge number of overseas Chinese who imported Chinese goods all over the world within days … of opening up.

            Now if these same people ( practically nearly all of ASEAN and East asia is to boycott US goods…what would happen to US’s economy? Dead.

            No … the way to greatness is through trade and more trade ..not wars through military assets which need huge amounts to maintain.

            The best part is …look at Lebanon 2006… how israel’s western style army , air force and navy were not even able to handle 2000 die hard fighters we call Hezbollah.

            Look how Nato performs against the Talibans with only rpgs and AK47s…and you know today military power is nothing without the people willing to defend a country.

            Will you as an American die for Obama just because it is part of the plan to dominate the world..not defending your country. Would you?

            Will the defender of their countries like Hez fight to the death any invader…?

            If the dollar is dead …as predicted… how is US going to maintain their global military bases adn those huge floating coffins (easily destroyed by today’s cheap missiles) with 5,000 on board? Is it worth it?

            No the way forward is through trade and dialogue and everyone earns his living through his work …and not like the old colonial days exploit the labour of others as EU nations have done in the past. Look what is happening there when they cannot exploit third world countries anymore?
            They are dying for sure for being uncompatitive. How can nations going on borrowing…to survive?

        • Anyone that imprisons me in MY basement, has just done something REAL stupid

      105. While a general case may be made that the PRC could be prepared for something, to use the Australian milk buying panic as a piece of evidence with any probative value at all shows a lack of understanding of the on-the-ground reality.

        Being Chinese Singaporean, I have been following developments in the PRC in the native language for the past several years, and have also had the opportunity to come into contact with many PRC citizens.

        From what I can gather, since the milk powder scandal happened a few years back, trust in PRC milk powder manufacturers have not been regained at all, because many of the company executives responsible were not punished but were re-assigned to other jobs by the Communist Party. As a result, people living in China have been finding ways and means to import milk powder from abroad since that time.

        Let me give a few examples to illustrate this point:
        – Singaporeans with children who are working or living in China always request friends from back home to carry a few tins of milk powder when the latter make trips to China to visit.
        – PRC citizens living in Singapore are often asked to bring back milk powder when travelling home.
        – Take the northbound MTR subway in Hong Kong that heads to the border crossing at Luo Hu in Shenzhen at any time of the day, and you will see LEGIONS of people smuggling big boxes of both milk powder and baby diapers across the border.
        – Visit any pharmacy on any street in Hong Kong, and you will see that milk powder being actively sold to PRC tourists. In fact, there had been reports in the Hong Kong press of shopkeepers refusing to sell milk powder to Hong Kong natives but choosing to sell them to PRC tourists.

        Based on the evidence that I can find, the latest milk powder buying panic in Australia can well be explained by a surge of PRC tourists who have found the latest place to buy milk powder. Such behaviour is NOT indicative of stockpiling. It’s just a fact of everyday life for PRC citizens struggling to feed their kids food that is not poisoned.

      106. Well, I’d stockpile commodities too if I could afford to do it. Not sure how long rice keeps but I’ll bet it holds its value with inflation. I think they may just be wagering on inflation. Its kinda sad they can’t invest in poor children and be optimistic about the future. Invest the rice and wealth in growth versus a rotting storage. But I guess we are all a little guilty there.

        But, I wouldn’t worry too much. I just saw a dude with at least 75 lbs of fat who works here. And he was ambulatory and working. He might can go 218 days with little other food. While Chinese stockpile in warehouses, many Americans carry their stockpile with them. Talk about the ultimate bug-out plan!

      107. Since the prediction of a fast approaching World War(|||).
        What are the predictions(everyone reading this) of the (upcoming) war and its effects to our future?

        P.S When next war world begins S(will)HTF hard and ugly like never before!

        More medicines, but less healthiness; More experts, but more problems; We’ve been all the to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new new neighbor; We built more more computers to hold more information to produce more copies than ever, but have less communications; We have become long on quantity but short on quality. IT IS TIME WHEN THERE IS MUCH ON THE WINDOW, BUT LESS IN THE ROOM. – Dalai Lama

        • And you don’t hear about this in the media – this is how world wars start! Coincidence? Doubt it.

      108. In times of inflation, cash loses its value and real things (real estate, metals, food, medicine) become more valuable. The Chinese are just staying ahead of the curve, in anticipation of paper money becoming so much toilet paper.

      109. Look … just look how USA and Nato has been planning all over the places as though the world belongs to them and only those in line with them gets away doing their own business.

        Those who oppose their way of thinking gets clobbered…. especially the defenceless ones like Iraq and Alfganistan.

        The only ones still standing in their way are the well prepared ones like North Korea, Iran/syria/Lebanon, China and Russia.

        Nato has been surrounding Russia even without provocation and getting ready…and Obama has on record said they intend to confront China with more than half of US’s fleet in Asia and now actively seeking out military partners in the area.

        Now …how would you as a nation being systematically threatened do? Keep quiet and let the events unfold and let Nato/US to get their way?

        China for one is a nation of traders not war mongers. They love trade. They go to Africa not with gunboats but lots of cash and expertise in exchange for their goods. They make African countries and even USA’s poor to enjoy a higher standard of living with affordable goods.

        Today USA is still going to Africa and ME with guns and planes ….such evil nation in the name of selective democracy where it suits them.

        Their latest is the Syrian conflict thinking they can get away with it…UNTIL RUSSIA SAYS…NYET!!! Here is where they chicken out.

        No the world has to be aware of the intended rising “Nazi” kind of evil .

        The world has to be prepared for the WW III if need be.

        Sad that some nation refused to work for a living and still wish to exploit other nations’s hard work through military means …

      110. My company processes several hundred million tons (500+) of food from all over the world. Most of this comes from the United States.

        Shortfalls at ports and terminals and distribution outlets are now in excess of 40%, including our foreign imports, are causing a huge number of undeliverable orders to downstream wholesalers. In turn, they are reporting a significant spike in order volume (not to be confused with delivered) of 65% over last year.

        Our analyst believe that this means significant food shortages are about to break out all over the world as the demand increase and deliverable’s decrease. China only accounts for 10% of our volume historically but has increased purchasing by 28% in just 4 months.

        Food production throughout the Midwest has dropped significantly (drought) with far lower harvests then required.

        We believe that stockpiling by many nations (India, China, Russia, South America and United States) is going to increase dramatically this year in preparation for massive drops in production and to forestall famine.

        The only solution is increased production and efficiencies, with distribution channels tightly regulated to prevent future hoarding, otherwise much of the world is facing starvation conditions in less then one year as existing stocks are rapidly depleted.

      111. “Unless the Chinese know something we haven’t been made privy to.”

        That is a VERY safe assumption. The Chinese are far from stupid. They do not spend their evenings watching trivial crap on TV. They work very hard. They plan. And they achieve. Victory always goes to those who work hard, plan, and prepare. Something IS up and it is likely to be VERY anti-American, whether brought to us by foreign or domestic enemies. We’ve been warned about these kinds of people for over 200 years and we seem to have rather recently given up worrying about them… which is exactly what they want.

      112. Also, the US and German Gold of course has never been audited fully because it is mostly Digital Gold and Paper Gold….China is actually buying PHYSICAL GOLD, they’re not buying paper gold receipts from a Rothschild paper dispenser. The US is laughing and expecting China not to act in a war due to the amount of US Tresuries and securities China is sitting on, but China realizes that the amount they will lose by dumping the USD system worldwide with its allies will be much less than continuing to play along with the pied piper. We are heading for an Armageddon.

        Go Alex Jones! Piers Morgan, Conan OBrien and all the other presstitutes can continue to follow that pied piper and lead their followers into a meat grinder. Fools.

      113. If, you were getting ready for an economic crash because you knew that you had backed the wrong horse and screwed the world; and WAR was coming to your shores? Wouldn’t the quickest way to arm your citizens through a non-government sanctioned arming of citizens be threw saying better get’em while you can cuz we com’n to get’em?

        Go to Seattle, Portland, San Fran, Sacramento, Oakland, LA, San diego, Phoenix, Albuquerque, El Paso, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas/Ft. Worth and right up through the Mississippi to the Great Lake States; large and burgening Chinese populations militarily trained.

        East coast down to Florida to the eastern Mississippi shores; Bolsheviks. The troops are already here dressed in American clothes from Chinese factories powered by the hydrocarbon of Mutter Russia. Get ready the board is just about complete; and the game of Risk continues.

      114. This Stuff is crazy. Did you ever think that the people who sponsor these sites are selling survivalist and Emergency Prepareations Gear! This stuff boots sales! I heard this nonsense abount the Chinese on Coast to Coast AM or one of those other types of shows last night… I have taken over 15 FEMA and related emergency courses and I think I can separate fact from fiction. President Obama and his fellow Progressive Collectivists want to disarm you. It will take some time for them to complete this goal.


        Guns: Kurt Saxon said:
        A pistol for the bedroom,(Colt M1911, Colt Detective Special, Smith and Wesson Model 10) – A shotgun over the door, (Remmington 870 or Ithaca M37) – A 30-06 for reaching out;(M1903, M1 Garand, Remmington 760, etc.) Thses are not shiny things and are lower in cost, proven in design and lower dowm the list things for confiscation! Many of these items were around before GCA-68 came to be and they have little or no paper trail.
        You don’t need any more. Black fancy guns are for people who have seen to many rambo movies. Have spare parts and cleaning kits, have enough ammo to last until the situation returns to normal and lawful civil authority is restored by local and county government. Last, learn to shoot and shoot regualarly. A man who can put 10 shots at 300 yards in a six inch circle is far more deadly than all the rambow wanabes who don’t know their battle sight zero for the fancy black rifle.

        Comms: Become and amateur Radio Operator amd have emergency backup Comms. Have chargeable batteries and hand or bicycle powered generators.

        Location: If you live urban or suburban: Get the hell out of there and move to a more rural area without public transportation coming into your area!

        Becoming the Man: Join your local emergency management agency, volunteer auxillary police or Sheriff’s department, volunteer fire department, or relief agency.

        Emergency Medical Treatment: Become an EMT an have selected items on hand to support your community and your family.

        Stockpile common items you will need everyday. Soap, over the counter and precription meds. Store long term foods such as canned goods and rice, baby formula, batteries that can be recharged, etc. Learn to garden and can what your grow. Have seeds tucked away and maybe a green house to sustain food or begin growning earlier in the Spring so you can have two growing seasons.

        Adapt and Overcome!

      115. Immediately challenge to fight for the seat of the the state Governor or whatever Bureaucrat responsible for deciding laws like these. Alternatively, buy up a manufacturing plant and start building Mecha (try Death machine – Stephen Norrington 1994) and fight a 2nd War of Independence for the 2nd Amendment. I’m surprised that the cops aren’t for the 2nd amendment. They could refuse to take people’s guns.

      116. I think China is pretty smart to stockpile all the hard commodities they can.We should be doing the same,instead of out sourcing every thing.Everyone should take it upon themselves to privately stockpile hard commodities,especially easily worked metals in the form of older broken down machines,cars,tools,etc.Long term storage containers of grains,and non-hybrid garden seeds would be a good idea too.

      117. Baseless fear mongering written by someone who lacks any perspective on China.

        Lets hit a few points:

        Rice purchases – let’s see how the wall street journal understands the same issue:
        A couple of different theories in there, none of which are at all like this craziness. Probably one of the most convincing one is that this is simply the result of the Chinese government price setting an inflated price of rice as an effort to subsidize farmers, Vietnamese rice can be purchased for 400 a ton, domestic price floor set by the government of over 600, 50% profit for importing, to quote the article: “”You’ve essentially got two split markets,” where farmers sell to the government but consumers buy from overseas, said Thomas Pugh, a commodities economist at Capital Economics, a London-based research firm. As a result, a lot of the government-purchased rice has been stockpiled, instead of being processed and consumed, he said. Once the price gap narrows, the imports will fall back.”

        The other working theory is a rise in domestic demand. China needs about 150 million tons of price to meet domestic consumption per year, the below article is all incensed over a 2.6 million ton yearly import. An increase in domestic demand of 2 percent accounts for this – consistent with the rising costs of domestic agricultural production in china, and the US govt estimates of a rising domestic demand and shortage. “Data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture also suggest that buying is partly driven by a fundamental need for more rice. The department estimates that China’s demand will exceed production by 1 million tons in 2013, leading to another year of big imports next year.”

        The below article is also ignoring basic logic. It talks about a 400% increase in imports, and then describes this in the next paragraph as a 400% increase in stockpiles. No, there is a big difference between those concepts. Estimates of China’s current stockpile of rice ranges from 50 million to 100 million tons, enough to feed their population for between 4 and 8 months. The below article describes a 2.6 million annual import – this is not a 400% increase in stockpiles, rather it is around a 3-4% increase, and represents enough rice to feed their population an additional – wow – 1 week. Yes, clearly war is imminent, the apocalypse is on the way.

        As for China seeking to map out US infrastructure and otherwise gain intelligence on us – yah, that’s what we do when we run our electronic spy ships up and down their coast everyday, our satellites overhead, when we send our intelligence guys over there – clearly we are preparing for an invasion? This is just the way the world works – the author is either naive, stupid, or fiercely dishonest, and probably all three.

        Of course the same criticism applies to the author’s fear mongering regarding China pursuing military technology aimed at disabling US electronic systems (particularly, the navy) – were a better informed xenophobe/doom cultist, he would also note the anti-ship ballistic missile program and increased submarine spending, all targeted at the US Navy. The reason, and China’s strategic intention, is obvious – it is position so that in the event of a conflict over Taiwan or with the Japanese, it poses enough of a threat within these zones to prevent the dispatching of a US carrier group (probably a much lesser consideration is fighting one if already dispatched – these conflicts do not take the form, and almost certainly will not, of actual shooting, but rather posturing on both sides, which for the US means dispatching a carrier group and running it through the Taiwan strait or the like). This is incredibly natural, every nation prepares for the conflicts it finds likely and that hit at it’s fundamental interests – and here, these interests it should be pointed out, are targeted at US ability to project power near Chinese soil as the regional hegemon in East Asia, and have nothing at all to do with US security here at home.

        The author appears to have no appreciation for that – instead, he cites a Chinese news article discussing the recent school shooting tragedy and calling for US gun control, and describes it as representing a call to disarm the US populace – I’m stretching my intelligence to imagine what this fear monger has in mind here, what possible interest the Chinese government could have in whether US people domestically have firearms, but it seems he must have in mind an invasion. Anyone who knows anything about the logistics of an invasion, or fighting a ground war, knows what an absurd notion it is to ever imagine either the US or China invading the other.

        Leaving aside that element of craziness, anyone with even a basic knowledge of how Chinese news works will know exactly the motivation of that article is. The common joke among Chinese people in describing the government news broadcasts is: “the first 10 minutes: Chinese government officials are very busy doing all sorts of wonderful things for the people; the middle 10 minutes: Chinese people are very, very happy and life is great here; the last 10 minutes: People living in other countries are miserable, they are dying in all sorts of terrible ways and there is unrest everywhere.”
        So let’s look at the article he describes as a plot to disarm the American people (you can read it if you like at ): the first half is classic, look at how people get killed and how dangerous things are in other countries. The second half? That’s pretty obvious too, it’s part of the government news theme “democracy ain’t that great”. They really like convincing the people of that one, which is why we have in this article endless discussion of how oh gun control would be great but democratic politics make it impossible because of all these hidden political motives.

        China doesn’t give any concern at all to whether people in the US privately hold weapons, it has nothing to do with any of their interests – they do care about taking any opportunity to criticize democracy and try to convince their people that everyone in foreign countries is unsafe and unhappy. Governments do often behave badly, but one must understand something of the country to come up with the right cynical conclusion.

      118. Er cause the SS tax went back to normal. 2 % doesn’t sound like much cept when its multiplied by billions in taxable incomes. Meanin a whole lot of discretionary income is gone , along with a whole lot of 500 a month factory jobs in china . That about right ?
        It is a too little , too late desperate attempt to forestall food riots in my never humble opinion.

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