The New World Order: Paranoia Or Reality?

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    This article has been contributed by Brandon Smith of Alt Market.

    The phrase “New World Order” is so loaded with explosive assumptions and perceptions that its very usage has become a kind of journalistic landmine.  Many analysts (some in the mainstream) have attempted to write about and discuss this very real sociopolitical ideology in a plain and exploratory manner, using a fair hand and supporting data, only to be attacked, ridiculed, or completely ignored before they get a chance to put forward their work.  The reason is quite simple; much of the general public has been mentally inoculated against the very whisper of the terminology.  That is to say, they have been conditioned to exhibit a negative reaction to such discussion instinctively without even knowing why.

    Some of this conditioning is accomplished through the stereotyping of New World Order researchers as “conspiracy theorists” (another term for loony) grasping at fantasies in a desperate bid for “attention”, or, as confused individuals who attempt to apply creative logic to a mad chaotic world swirling on the periphery of a great void of coincidence and chance.  I know this because I used to be one amongst the naive herd of “rationalists”, and I and many I knew used the same shallow arguments to dismiss every cold hard fact on the NWO that we happened upon.  After seeing the conspiracy crowd made iconic and ridiculous in hundreds if not thousands of books, movies, TV shows, commercials, and news specials, it becomes difficult for many to enter into the topic without a severe bias already implanted in their heads.

    Another circumstance that leads to the immediate dismissal of NWO research is, ironically, the lack of open discussion on the subject.  Yes, it’s a chicken and egg sort of thing.  If more people were less afraid to shine a floodlight on the truth of the matter, more people, in turn, would be more willing to absorb it.  And, if more unaware people were willing to listen to the information with an open mind, more people with knowledge would be willing to share it.  The psychological barrier to the information, therefore, is not based on any legitimate argument against the existence of the NWO.  Instead, people refuse to listen because they fear to embrace concepts personally that they believe are not yet embraced by the majority.

    It is a sad fact of society that most men and women gravitate towards the life of the follower, and not of the leader.  Only through great hardship and trauma do some plant their feet solidly in the Earth, and find the strength to break free from the collectivist mindset.

    Elitist think-tanks and propaganda machines like the Southern Poverty Law Center take full advantage of the hive mentality by attacking Liberty Movement proponents and NWO researchers in light of the populace’s lack of background knowledge.  A perfect example of this was the SPLC’s latest hit-piece on an Oath Keepers article dealing with the exposure of a Department of Defense program designed to import and train Russian soldiers on U.S. soil.  Because the article dares to mention the “NWO”, the SPLC jumps to the vapid conclusion that Oath Keepers are “paranoid”:

    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/04/27/the-russians-are-coming-patriot-paranoia-run-amok/

    The poorly written diatribe is little more than an Ad Hominem stab by an ankle biting author, but I felt it did hold a certain value as a test case of the strategic exploitation of uneducated mass opinion.  Without the ignorance of a sizable portion of the American public, yellow journalism like the kind peddled by the SPLC would be relegated to the great dustbin of history…

    If a man is able to get past his negative preconceptions on the matter, the next step is to ask a relatively straightforward question; what is the New World Order?  What is the foundation of the philosophy that drives it?  What are its origins?  This is something mainstream pundits never explore.  They simply take for granted that we in the Liberty Movement somehow made the whole thing up for our own entertainment.  In reality, the phrase New World Order made its public debut early in the 20th Century, and it was expounded by numerous political and business elites decades before there was such a thing as “conspiracy theorists”.

    The Liberty Movement has always defined the NWO as a concerted effort by elitist organizations using political manipulation, economic subversion, and even war, to centralize global power into the hands of an unelected and unaccountable governing body.  The goal; to one day completely dismantle individual, state, and national sovereignty.  However, what I and many others hold as fact on the New World Order is not enough.  We must examine the original source and how we came to our mutual conclusions.

    I have in numerous articles outlined the irrefutable data surrounding the directed efforts of corporate globalization and the deliberate strategies of central banks in the co-option of financial control over nations.  But, to solidify our understanding of what the most financially and politically powerful men on Earth and their cheerleaders believe the NWO is, why not go straight to the horse’s mouth:

    “It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go….We are living in the end of the sovereign states….In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish….Countless people…will hate the new world order….and will die protesting against it.” H.G. Wells, in his book, “The New World Order”, 1940

    “Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
    – David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405

    “In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.”
    – Strobe Talbot, President Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of State, Time Magazine, July 20th, 1992

    “There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the communists, or any other group, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments … I have objected both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies … but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known … The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) … the American Branch of a society which originated in England … believes national boundaries should be obliterated and [a] one-world rule established.”

    Prof. Carroll Quigley, mentor to Bill Clinton, from his book ‘Tragedy and Hope

    “Ultimately, our objective is to welcome the Soviet Union back into the world order. Perhaps the world order of the future will truly be a family of nations.” 

    President George Bush at Texas A&M University 1989

    “We will succeed in the Gulf. And when we do, the world community will have sent an enduring warning to any dictator or despot, present or future, who contemplates outlaw aggression. The world can therefore seize this opportunity to fufill the long-held promise of a new world order – where brutality will go unrewarded, and aggression will meet collective resistance.” 
    President George Bush State of the Union Address 1991

    “The Final Act of the Uruguay Round, marking the conclusion of the most ambitious trade negotiation of our century, will give birth – in Morocco – to the World Trade Organization, the third pillar of the New World Order, along with the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund.” 
    Part of full-page advertisement by the government of Morocco in The New York Times (April 1994)

    “To keep global resource use within prudent limits while the poor raise their living standards, affluent societies need to consume less.  Population, consumption, technology, development, and the environment are linked in complex relationships that bear closely on human welfare in the global neighborhood. Their effective and equitable management calls for a systemic, long-term, global approach guided by the principle of sustainable development, which has been the central lesson from the mounting ecological dangers of recent times. Its universal application is a priority among the tasks of global governance.” 
    United Nations Our Global Neighborhood 1995

    “What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system…a first step toward a new world order.”
    Henry Kissinger on NAFTA, Los Angeles Times

    “All these new challenges are bringing together about the biggest restructuring we’ve ever seen not just of the global economy but global order as a whole. And two hundred years ago, a famous British foreign secretary said that the new world had been called into existence to address the balance of the old. In 1989 another world war ended dominated by the cold war and people talked then in 1990 of the new world order. What they meant then was a new political order. And what was not foreseen then but is obvious now, from everything that we see and do, what we experience every day of our life is the sheer scale and speed and scope of globalization…”

    Prime Minister Gordon Brown, CBI Speech 2007


    “The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down…but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault.”

    CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April 1974 issue of the CFR’s journal, Foreign Affairs

    As we can see quite clearly from the direct quotes above, the New World Order, and its pursuit of global government, is not some “delusion” built upon exaggerated claims or impractical fears.  It is, in fact, a very OPEN and freely admitted sociopolitical ideology held by a select and decidedly influential group of people.  To label it “conspiracy theory” is absurd.

    Are capitalist and socialist organizations “conspiracy theory”?  Are political parties “conspiracy theories”?  Is Greenpeace a paranoid figment of our imagination?  What about corporate lobbyists?  Was the purge of Stalinist Russia a fable?  Did the Nazi party not actually seek to rule the world?  Obviously, these have all been substantial forces in the making of our current era.

    Throughout history, very real organizations of people with specific and directed beliefs have sought to guide the course of our cultural progression according to their personal values, sometimes using coordinated and underhanded means.  The New World Order is no different in this regard.  Its uniqueness lay only in the insidious nature of its methods and the complexity of its structure.  In fact, I would have to question the sanity of anyone who DOESN’T believe that conspiracies are a constant and concrete reality.  Secretive groups of men have always sought power over others and have always cloaked their thirst in the auspices of patriotism and rationalism.

    Another issue which average Americans stumble over is the fraudulent notion of the left/right paradigm.  For those within the ranks of the New World Order, “left” and “right”, Democrat and Republican, are ultimately meaningless terms.  This is undeniable after one realizes that the leadership on both sides of the aisle exhibit almost identical policy initiatives and voting records.  When the two primary political entities of a system differ only in rhetoric but not in action, one has to question whether they are separate parties at all:

    When a liberty minded network like Oath Keepers points out the underlying New World Order-ness of a DoD program to train Russian soldiers on U.S. soil, they are referring to the centralizing nature of the procedure, and they are quite correct.  The problem is that those without any context or background knowledge are completely unequipped to understand the significance of the danger.  If only they knew about programs like the Security and Prosperity Partnership agreement between Canada, the U.S., and Mexico, constructed to dissolve sovereign military and economic functions between the three countries:

    http://www.hudson.org/files/pdf_upload/HudsonNegotiatingNorthAmericaadvanceproof2.pdf

    http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d

    What is to stop this trend of military homogenization with neighboring foreign countries from spreading around the world, enabling corrupt governments stocked with proponents of globalism to use not only a country’s own troops domestically, but the troops of other nations?

    As the SPLC points out in an attempt to be clever; this intermingling has been going on for quite some time.  What they fail to mention is the terrible track record these operations have amassed.  The ‘School Of The Americas’, for example, used the same rhetoric of “international cooperation” and the spreading of “democracy” as a fair trade when training foreign troops on U.S. soil, yet, all the school seemed to produce were tyrannical despots and mass murderers:

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2097124,00.html 

    Or, how about the recent training of the Iranian dissident group Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK) at a secretive Department of Energy site in Nevada:

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/04/mek.html

    Are we supposed to believe that the training of Russian troops within our border will produce better results?

    These activities on the part of our government, in the end, do not serve the best interests of the American people in the slightest, but what they do serve, is the ideological addictions of the global elite.  That is to say, they further the interests of the New World Order.

    As researchers and web journalists, we are supposed to be afraid to mention the NWO.  We are supposed to refrain from using certain vocabulary exactly because portions of the public are unfamiliar with it.  To be honest, I have to laugh at this dynamic.  I think it far better to embrace the truth of a matter, along with its dialogue.  To be unashamed and unabashed in the exposition of the facts regardless of the ignorance of those around us.  The New World Order is a definable and quantifiable political movement.  Elitists who praise it in public are showered with accolades while citizens who oppose it in public are accused of paranoid ramblings.  The less we care about what others might think, the more dedicated we can be to the truth.  At bottom, when it comes to matters of survival and principle, it is a far better thing to be “crazy” and right, than “sane” and wrong.

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      1. Yep

        • Cowboys are men of few words

          • So are cows

            • U.S. Troops fully armed patrolling neighborhood streets in Crookston, MN

              When a resident asked a soldier why they were doing this, he said they were “just training.”

              (americanvisionnews.com/3201/u-s-troops-fully-armed-patrolling-neighborhood-streets)

            • Cows’ are female.

            • Mooo, I reckon.

            • Being pretty new here, I must ask (it’s probably been asked before), but…

              is Auntie COMMIE a troll, or just a trouble maker that likes stirring the pot?

            • Probably, should have just said “first”;
              Auntie would like that.

          • You know what I would like to see is a post World War 3 NWO map. You know someone has drawn up one of these. Any true mass control will be far easier after chaos. People actually are so desperate in the ruins they actually will look and beg for ORDER. This is something that anyone looking for control throughout history has taken that opportunity to grab at like a golden ring.

            Those in control know full well that when times are good they have a snowball chance in hell of changing anything. When times are pure misery, sheeple will welcome total control, no matter the consequences, to bring back that sense of normalcy that they crave and must have. This is how dictators “throughout” the “entire human history” have come to power. The NWO wants things to be awful, the worse the better. The masses will then welcome the New World ORDER will open arms.

            I don’t understand how anyone could doubt this pattern that has happened again and again and again, and will happen again in the future as long as human beings still are around. It is human nature for most to be lead around by a nose ring. Everyone out there, just be happy and thankful you are NOT in that basic category that most fit into like androids would.

          • I wouldn’t trust anything from globalresearch.ca. Do you have a different link to prove this is factual?

            • Now who and what would you trust? BBC? CBS? The Drudge Report?

              Who are YOUR Sources?

              And WHY wouldn’t you trust “anything” from globalresearch.ca? Could you explain your rationale? I take it you’ve been following their site for some time, aware of who and what they are, the many authors that write for them. Be as specific as you can with your response here. Feel free to share with us YOUR facts justifying your statement.

          • They will try hard, but such a scheme is doomed to failure when they all fight over who is going to be top top dog.

            • DDT

              Oh yes, there will be infighting alright. And whoever gets the top job has got problems, not only do the masses want them strung up, but so does everyone who sees him or herself as the one who should have got the job, or should now have the job. There will be lots of “accidents” lots of “suicides” and lots of “heart attacks” amongst these people.

              Take care

          • Southern Boy

            Dunno, and don’t really care to be honest.

            You will get so much help on here relating to all kinds of stuff. These people have told me about things that had never even crossed my mind. Mac has built what I think is a good site and there is a knowledgeable and vibrant community on here.

            Some, like me, are still very new and that sometimes, okay, often, shows in my posts but in general most of the posters know what they are talking about.

            Nice to meet you

            Take care

        • If it comes out in any way, shape, or form as the “quotes” insinuate, THEN THE NEW WORLD ORDER SHOULD BE APPLAUDED!

          F borders, F money, F competition, and F your pride!

          However, ‘they’ lie far too often and get caught far too easily for ‘them’ to be believed.

          We need big change indeed, but do not trust those who choose themselves too lead…

          • Sowhatstheplan?

            Good points you make.

            Take care

            • Thanks Burt. I hope we all find our way.

          • @ Francis:

            Name one socialist government under whom the people have prospered and under whom they are happy.

            Just one.

            • Socialist? Pull another pillow case from your head and learn that socialism-communism-capitalism are barely different from each other… All worthless systems creating competition, hate, ignorance, and an overall decline in quality of life.

              You dumb ass! You are a slave to a debt based system of servitude, WAKE THE FK UP! All these systems are useless, and you who follow msn, or fox, or whatever dumb ass place you get your assessments from, are struggling for air under all those pillow cases.

              But hey, some people just feel better gasping for air?

            • @ GOP4EVER

              Canada.

        • I visit this site for the same reason most of you do, but what we must understand is that the real reason “the penis’s that be” are going to beat us is because we are all failing to unify against this. I’m guilty to. We know there watching everything we do and kind of have us in check. We are all waiting for the right moment and the truth is, there is no right moment. This whole process seems like it could probably go on for the next couple of decades but I pray I’m wrong and hope it happens sooner so I can protect my family while I’m still young and healthy. I would hate to have my nieces to grow up in such a police state. I know this isn’t news to most of you but I wanted to share my feeling on this matter. I enjoy reading alot of the posts on here. God Bless all.

        • I visit this site for the same reason most of you do, but what we must understand is that the real reason “the penis’s that be” are going to beat us is because we are all failing to unify against this. I’m guilty to. We know there watching everything we do and kind of have us in check. We are all waiting for the right moment and the truth is, there is no right moment. This whole process seems like it could probably go on for the next couple of decades but I pray I’m wrong and hope it happens sooner so I can protect my family while I’m still young and healthy. I would hate to have my nieces to grow up in such a police state. I know this isn’t news to most of you but I wanted to share my feeling on this matter. I enjoy reading alot of the posts on here. God Bless.

      2. Truth is perception. Perception is formed from informatin. Information is believed or not-beleived. If believed it is truth. So the circle continues.

        • If that makes any sense whatsover.

          • Kevin

            I know what you mean, the question is, how do you get the masses to believe that banning raw milk is wrong? That Monsanto are bad? That people should be allowed to collect rainwater?
            How do you make them believe they have a right to NOT vaccinate their child? .

            How do you make them believe that their rights are being eroded more each day? That monitoring from cradle to grave is not for their own good? That not having the right to bear arms is for their own safety?

            Unless people start to believe there are major problems with the current system, they will never accept it as truth….not until they are standing in the food queue waiting to collect their rations for the day and find them reduced due to some minor misdemeanour they committed the day before.

            Then they will believe, but by then it will be too late.

            Take care

            • The answer is simple. Do what the media(and gubmint) do say it over and over and over again(except unlike them, you use clear language, verifiable information, and logic)

            • Kevin

              Fair comment…but over here in the UK it needs to be done by a reality tv host or come out of an X-box…..tragic but true. There are a tiny few prepper sites in the UK, I went on one yesterday, there are about six regular posters…yes you read that right. I was expelled, asked to leave, told to go, within ten minutes. My crime?

              I pointed out that if they treated typhoid as one of the posters suggested, they would die. There was no response for about ten minutes, then after private messaging each other about it they decided I ” probably wouldn’t find what I was looking for” on the site. This site also recommends a weeks food and three days water as emergency stores and 14 days food and 7 days water for major emergency situations.

              I rest my case
              I post this as an explanation about why I frequent a US site, and as N example of just how asleep some are. Remember this is a prepping site, can you imagine what the populations at large are like?

              Take care

            • I don’t know if there is anything that you can do to make them believe it. Take for example the issue of firearms ownership. What kind of person would willing give up their right to self defense or defense of their family? Not a rational one, at least not in my opinion. Yet there are millions of people who defend firearms bans and attempt to rationally explain their position even though their position has no rationality. People do not want to believe, so they never will. I tell people this, and this is simply my opinion, that the Nazi’s did what they did because the vast majority of Germans wanted them to do it, same applies here in the USA, government does what it does because the people approve it

            • I’m not sure they’ll believe even then, Burt.

            • I’m a late prepper, my wife and I just started 3 months ago. In that 3 months my wife and I canceled our trip we were planning; a Caribbean cruise, spent over $4,000 in firearms, ammo, food, water, and physical silver. We are adding to our stores weekly. Next week we close on 20 acres of secluded hardwood land with a small cabin on it.

              My wife’s parents claim they believe as we do and also think there is a SHTF event coming yet it all seems to be lip service. They talk the talk but I’m seeing no action on their part to prepare. They are retired and just bought a camper they pull behind their truck. They spend all their free time and money going on camping and fishing trips and are now talking about buying a boat too.

              They are supposed to come stay with my wife and I when the SHTF but its frustrating because they will only have what supply’s they currently have in their pantry. Their camper would not even be the asset they claim it would be because our land and cabin is so remote and back in the sticks their camper would never make the rough road to our cabin in one piece. (we have room in the cabin for them so their camper is not needed)

              It sooooooo frustrating! I feel like the ant and they are the grasshopper!

            • Samrat,

              I am new to it too and in a similar predicament, they are your family and sometimes we need to carry the weight for those in our family who can’t or won’t. I had to ask myself, “Am I going to put them out?” and the answer was a definite “No” so I pull their load until i can convince them and if I can’t convince them then I will pull their load until the bitter end. Good luck and God Speed

            • “It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go….We are living in the end of the sovereign states….In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish….Countless people…will hate the new world order….and will die protesting against it.” H.G. Wells, in his book, “The New World Order”, 1940

              I plan on being one of the dead over this issue. I will not live very long under the New World Order. It was nice knowing y’all.

            • Burt, Would you please post a link, I’d like to engage as DK likes to say. I would be eye opening for them to hear about prepping from a few of us I think.

            • Samrat

              I am stuck with the same dilemma. Many family members will come running when SHTF and I am asked to provide. I will provide, but it will come with a price. The first thing they will hear is “I tried to tell you, so now it will be twice as hard.” I want allow anyone to take away our “safety net”,even family. They will expell energy to gain “our security and prepping goods”. The extra calories we would have to burn, will now be burned by those looking for a handout. The ones not able to do much manual labor will have to provide “night shift” security and so on……

        • Jeeze bud, my head is spinning. Stop it!

          • High speed

            Link way down the posts…it got lost on the way

            Take care

        • “Truth is perception.”

          I’ve heard that about 10,000 times or so ever since some jackass first coined the phrase.

          I apologize for the outburst, but it simply is not true (even if perceived as such). It also enables the sheep-like mode of living that way too many people labor under. After all, if you don’t perceive societal collapse, then it really isn’t collapsing, is it?

          Let me break this down a bit: There is hard, cold reality, and then there is how people perceive it. They are two different things.

          Someone claiming something that doesn’t jibe with first-hand observed fact or analytic conclusion is either speaking from ignorance, malice, or is willfully distorting things to fit a particular goal (e.g. “pretend time”).

          When confronted with this, your job is three-fold:

          1) determine the motives, if any, from which it was conceived.

          2) confirm or deny what is spoken/written against what can be found out from independent sources and/or first-hand observation. Be sure to challenge any assumptions or beliefs you have as a double-check.

          3) if analysis confirms that what you thought was wrong, see if you can duplicate it independently.

          I usually answer that phrase (“perception is reality!”) with an offer to drop the speaker into the Sahara, where they should survive just fine. After all, they can help themselves to all the water that they perceive.

          • Agreed. The truth is the truth. Its either right or wrong. Gray areas are just the decisions that are hard to make. You know whats right, but fear the consequence. Perception is just a way to view things that can be right or wrong. (true or untrue). There lies the problem with sheeple. They can only perceive that everything is okay because they are to afraid of the truth or to lazy to seek it.

            • arco-how right you are and looking back in history,the people whom just before ww2 broke were of the same mindset and LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN HITLER GOT TOTAL CONTROL,which is what him and his “boys” were working on all the while. evnts are happening now to usher a “NWO” in,slowly but surely and when people are hungry enough,not only will they accept,but they’ll embrace it to their ultimate regret,but people like you,myself, and a ton of others will be out front as long as we can,with the LORD’s blessing,to be able to do for our family and freinds- TAKE CARE BUDDY.

          • There are many ways of interpreting every saying/phrase.
            Some things are TRUE to people, some things are NOT true.
            Thats how you can listen to the speeches of our so called leaders and hear a complete different speech then others.

            Percieve-To take intellectual cognizance of; to apprehend by the mind; to be convinced of by direct intuition; to note; to remark; to discern; to see; to understand.

            This definition of perceice is ALL IN THE MIND. Truths and un-truths

            Reality is NOT in the mind(because of our survival mechs. like denial), it is in the enviroment around us.

            It is TRUE to ME, if you perceive it or not.(because I do)

            TRUTH!!!

            Lets look at perceive from another angle, shall we.

            Perceive-To obtain knowledge of through the senses; to receive impressions from by means of the bodily organs; to take cognizance of the existence, character, or identity of, by means of the senses; to see, hear, or feel; as, to perceive a distant ship; to perceive a discord.

            Obviously you can perceive reality around YOU, BUT perception is NOT reality.

            Now lets look at perception from the dictionary they put out for the sheeple.

            per·ceive

            1.
            to become aware of, know, or identify by means of the senses: I perceived an object looming through the mist.

            2.
            to recognize, discern, envision, or understand: I perceive a note of sarcasm in your voice. This is a nice idea but I perceive difficulties in putting it into practice.

            You can throw me in the sahara. I will read my dictionary from the early 1900’s, under an umbrella with a strawberry daiquri.

            • Meant to say-

              Obviously you can perceive(YOUR) reality, BUT (YOUR) perception is NOT (SOMEBODYELSES) reality.

              Perception of ideas =YOUR TRUTH!!

          • “You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of reality”….A. Rand

          • “It’s not the people who vote that count; It’s the people who count the votes.” (Stalin?) Thought that was appropriate for the thread.

          • Speaking of getting prepared…

            Don’t forget about looking for useful items at yard sales, thrift shops, etc.

            Many people do a “spring cleaning” and have yard sales this time of year.

        • I read on Steve Quayle; heard on several other talk shows last week, martial law will kick in this summer; anyone w/more info?? These recent new laws appear it’s planned soon.

          • Hi Laura M., I read your question about ” possible martial law this summer” and just wanted to let you know that the only way someone would know “when” it will happen is if they planned on causing some sort of catastrophe or economic collapse themselves. Or if they had deep inside sources. Even the people we consider experts just don’t know and that’s why we have to be extremley watchful of every economic move and every move governments make. I’m not sure which eo the Obama administration just sighned but from what recall it gives them the ability to put us in forced labor units around the country. So I feel they’ve set things up to happen anytime now it’s just that we will never know when or how. If you have any info please share it with me. I’m like the rest of you and am sick and tired of watching our freedoms being taken away and am only hungry for the truth of all matters.

      3. And who’s running the show?

        The Zionist Rothchilds

        • IDIOT!

          • Auntie

            You are quite irritating

            • Why would anybody listen to an English Nancy-boy from a country where “The Men” allowed “The Corp” to take away their guns. Hey “Burt The Twit”?

            • Auntie….I am all woman.

              Thought you would have noticed. Oh well can’t win em all.

              When I die I’ll ask the ancestors about the gun thing.

              Take are

            • Auntie, Burt is actually a lady…much like you are actually a man, although apparently not a gentleman. Discernment is obviously not your gift, in more ways than one…although I am somewhat amused with the chutzpah with which you suddenly show up on this site, make hundreds of comments in a month or so, then throw a tantrum worthy of my kindergartener and storm off (only to come sneakin’ back around). LOL!

            • What I found most interesting, Mama Bear, is that during that flurry of comments, a great number of them were insulting and inflammatory, but when the tables were turned, well, like you said, welcome to kindergarten!!!

            • Yup! This proves it… Auntie (Good-Buddy) Commie (rat) is a troll of the 1st degree!

              LOL!
              🙂

          • European American….spot on. The veil is lifting and the truth will be fully revealed, finally, and in short order I might add….very short order. Prepare for it, prepare, prepare.

            Gold Leader standing by.

            • Daisy and Mama

              Wait until you get further down the posts, it’s even funnier lol

              Oh no, there’s a commie after me …I feel red thumbs for every post coming on.

              Take care ladies

          • “Let me control a nation’s currency and I care not who writes it’s laws”- M.A. Rothschild

        • Stop sounding like a Nazi. The NWO people come from every background.

          • Yes, absolutely they do, but Zionism is NOT Judaism. Two COMPLETELY different things. Jewish people are its victims, as we all are, every nation, every culture.

            Gold Leader standing by.

            • Gold leader.

              Agreed, two very different groups of people.

              Take care

            • Zionists = modern day Israel = Kahzar / Ananazi co-opted Judaism.

              For those of us who used to be brainwashed: These people co-opted the Judaism and now, effectively, occupy Israel and often kill its people. In fact, the Arabs don’t hate the Jews, they hate the Kahzar/Ananazis but the Zionists muddy the water and trick you into believing that the Arabs hate our Christian predecessors, the Jews.

              10 minutes of research will tell you whats up. Jews are OK. Zionists are NWO, elitist, world cabalists. If you believe that Jesus is coming back for us, the first they he will do is to take care of them. They will be the followers of the Anti-Christ. They will reap what they sow. Death, Dishonesty and Destruction await them.

              Ask the author of this article.

              Hey Giordano! I think its time for a writeup of host this works…

              Neithercorp lives on!

            • Yes Net, the story of the Kahzar’s is an interesting look into history. It would behoove everyone here to do a little research and reading about them. Changes your whole perspective.

            • It started way back before Jesus was born into the flesh. The Kenites (descendants of Cain and therefore Lucifer) finagled their way into the tribe of Judah. They took up positions of authority by doing mundane tasks such as bookeeping, that the priests and government leaders despised doing. They became “scripture lawyers” (scribes and pharisees) and with those positions of authority “twisted the law” to gain more control and therfore become hidden tyrants among the leadership (Zionist Jews). They have intermixed with all races and are amongst all the world’s leaders.

          • LOL.

            • Net Ranger, your post is pure bullshit. Only a POS Nazi like you would not help your parents to eat. Get off your fat ass, get out of your trailer.and get a job and start feeding your parents you fucking racist scumbag.

        • Thank God you aren’t running anything but your stupid mouth.
          Jesus the Zionist Jew is coming back to Jerusalem the Capital of Israel.

          • Wakey, wakey, people… It’s clear that several heads need to be removed from several asses still. There is no dominant religion over the others. There is no ‘us vs. them’ based on theology.

            The longer we stay in this childish fight against each other, the easier it is for “The-Powers-That-Were-and-Still-Hope-to-Be” to control ALL of us, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, etc……it doesn’t matter. We’d be our own self-cleaning oven, which is right where they want you! They’ve got you by the balls! Open your eyes people. If not, don’t come crawling to me and compromise my well-being because you set yourself up for Darwinian deselection. Shining that light, I would be happy to help you, but only to help you find your OWN way, not at the expense of everyone else. THAT is liberty.

            Light your way,
            Gold Leader standing by.

      4. George Orwell said millions will die resisting the New World Order… he never said which side?

        • Backhoe

          In the worst case scenario the losses will be on both sides.

          In the best case scenario the losses will be to the government.

          Take care

        • BOOM!!!

      5. Anyone with the smallest iota of curiosity should know how very real this is.

      6. Turns out the “thousand points of light” were tracers.

      7. Always been the same throughout history; Criminals vs those who abide by the law of the land. Many just hold on to the hope that there will be land for the law to apply to. Until those secretive criminals are held accountable, lawlessness & chaos will prevail.

        • Bert, then the criminals gain authority, i.e. elected or take over, then they rewrite laws to benifit themselves and rewrite history for the schools.
          What many can’t gather is the fact that conspiracies have always been part of take overs and history consistantly proves it. The issue now is that the conspiracies are global(NWO). Some one or multitudes are trying to take over the whole world. Since the garden of Eden there has been a conspiracy to dominate man.
          Simply put: it is the bullying mentality ‘do as I say, not as I do’.

      8. Just an odd thought for those who fear the “Corp.” What is the “corp” without customers?

        • Jim, good thought. I’d change the customers to followers.

        • What is a prison nation without inmates? If America is a indeed prison, it’s certainly run by the inmates, not the guards, not the warden.

      9. The New World Order will lead to economic enslavement of the global population for the good of a small political elite who have taken it upon themselves to rule the world.

        We will have every facet if our lives controlled, probably by food rather than cash in order to further the aims of the rulers.

        Why? Because they can, and unless we, the awake find a way to stop them they will do it.

        Take care

        • Afternoon Burt… Did you ever have to deal with an organization called “Common Purpose”?

          • Hi JRS

            It rings a bell…something to do with teaching, training, but no not directly. Er, should I have?

            • No, but opinion has it they are of the NWO persuasion in your neck of the woods.

            • JRS

              Okay…I will have a sniff around see if I can find anything about them.

              Take care

        • I would take that statement a step further. I believe the end goal is a literal enslavement for most of the surviving population. Most of the population will end up exterminated to ensure there is insufficient numbers of people to offer possible resistance, as well as to preserve already dwindling resources for the new elite masters.

          If you are female and attractive, there will be opportunity as a concubine for the security forces who will administer our enslavement. We have a unique opportunity in human history; to fight the worst kind of tyranny the world will have seen. I suspect most of us will die without ever firing a shot; victims of starvation or some exotic bioengineered disease. But those who survive will have the opportunity to give our lives dearly to kill one of these new fascist overlords.

          The one thing these bastards are overlooking is the lack of new frontiers available to those who dislike enslavement. This time, their backs will be against the wall and there will be no choice but to fight or die.

          • What a great point. Up until fairly recently, if you were politicly or religiosly persecuted, there was generaly somewhere else in the world to escape.If you had luck or wealth that is. The USA was a bastion on freedom and opportunity, were if you put your nose to the grindstone, had a little luck, you could make good.
            Fast forward to today. Everybody deserves a trophy just for showing up. Goddamn Government regulations chasing you down the road. Piss-ant beurocrats and gov workers that couldn’t make it in the real world imposing their “will” and “power” on you. Example: Any Motor Vehicle Admin. anywhere in the country; how long would it be in business with competion?
            I build for a living. Why does it take a year and a half, ( I’M NOT MAKING THIS UP!) to get a commercial building permit. I have a tree holding up a $5mil project. A freakin’ tree. And its not something Geo Wash planted. It’s just a plain old big tree, in the middle of my building site, that somebody in the permitting office feels sorry for. Meanwhile, 15-20 people with families, have a job for a year when we start.
            Went off on a rant, again…..

        • “Control the food, you control the people.
          Control the oil, you control the countries.
          Control the money, you control the world.”
          – Henry Kissenger

      10. Goldman Sachs is like a finincial cancer. All of thier top former board members are spread world wide,conviently to control a global economy! Look who now financially controls Greece? you got it another senior V.P. for Goldman sachs! And how about our own fed chariman Ben Bernecke,and Tim Geithner,our tresuary secretary, you got it! Goldman sachs. Any time theres corruption anywhere in the world, you simply follow the money trail. This is Not a conspiracy! Remember what a conspiracy is,it is simply when two or more persons conspire to commit an act that is either immoral or illegal. Look at it this way, the train is off the tracks and we are literally hurling through the air! Some of us are bracing for impact, while most of us are wondering whats giong on! may God bless!

        • Most conspiracies have been proofed as “fact” as time passes. Now-a-days, the label “Conspiracy” is used to discredit the source. Yes, there are those “moon bat” conspiracies that tend to distract, but normally that type is purposely planted by disinformation specialists to muddy the waters of thought.

        • What ?? Did somebody say that there is something going on ? Where ?? It all looks the same…..cause U can’t see the forest for the trees. Most of the sheeple that surround us will just wake up dead. Those that are prepared…..will at least make a good dent in the Commies. While I’m not lookin to die any time soon….I don’t like doing things alone…..so I WILL be taking some of these bastards with me !

          • Reading these comments leads one to commit one way or the other. I was under the assumption that we all must have a group of people that we can trust without hesitation thus allowing for the complete cohesion of a unit? Do you still believe that the powers to be will come at you straight on? You must train under duress, lack of sleep, exhaustion from running, walking long distances and then see if you can still shoot straight. Remember, the PTB will have a small army protecting them and you must be willing to shoot, move, and communicate. If you are not preparing correctly then all this speculation will just be over in moments. Prepare for the worse and hope for the best. Take you group out in the backwoods, mountains, and desert then practice what you are preaching so you will see the weakness and work it out before you really need the precise actions needed to defend yourselves.
            When SHTF, at minimally know what your requirements are and how to react accordingly. Yes. I feel small bands of people will eventually seek/find you and you must have the ability to immediately see what it is they seek, Food, Refuge etc. Also remember, if it comes to defending yourself and there is a body count, you MUST dispose of them, bury, burn etc. so no other band(s) will locate you so easily. The first 60 days will be critical, this allows you to form some protection barriers, shift (24hrs) armed at the ready, and concealment. Your Group must be willing to take extreme measure at first until things calm down around you, then SLOWLY expand you area of operation to include surrounding resources. Your life and everybody in the group will be at risk if not prepared for properly.
            Prepare and prepared are two vastly different realities.

            • You have addressed something that I have found lacking in most prepper group plans; Body Disposal. You don’t do it properly, you’ll have a plethora of disease out breaks, both air born & various biological vectors. Each group should have some type of plan in-place that fits their group’s resources.

            • Dump em in the sinkhole out back and let the wildies have at em

      11. Nice to see this article both here and Zerohedge. I guess everybody is starting to get on the same page when a basically financial blog posts an article on the NWO.Thanks go to Brandon for the research to wake people up.

      12. O/T

        13-year-old suspect killed during robbery

        BIRMINGHAM, AL (WBRC) –
        Birmingham police say a 13-year-old robbery suspect was shot and killed by the person he tried to rob in Birmingham Friday night.

        The Jefferson County Coroner’s Office confirms the teen’s identity as Jaqures Cortez Walker of Birmingham. He was a 7th grade student at Martha Gaskin Middle School and the quarterback for the football team, according to a family member.

        BPD Sgt. Johnny Williams said the teen suspect approached a couple as they pulled into their home at the gated Skyview Condominiums in the 400 block of Skyview Drive around 11:10pm. Friday, April 27. Skyview Drive is off Robert Jemison Road. The suspect had a T-shirt over his face like a bandana and was holding a cocked and loaded gun, Williams said.

        Police say the would-be robber approached the male occupant of the car and told him to “Get out and give it up.” The man had his own gun in the car and shot the teenager. The teen ran a few feet, collapsed and died at the scene,

        • Typical “have not” robbing the “haves”. And they call me “paranoid”. Better to be alive than a blotter statistic.

        • Good! He’ll never see fourteen.

          • His parents are still grieving.

            • Sounds like another example of parenting gone awry. Hold the parents accountable as well. No more can I or anybody have feelings towards the cowardly attacks these individuals do hourly, regardless of age, race!!!!!!!
              Just keep those weapons loaded and ready at all times.

            • His parents are probably a big part of the reason he turned out to be a thug.

            • And your point would be what? They should be grieving that they were so disconnected from their kid that they didn’t know he could do something like that.

              This kind of crime is what will provoke greater and greater restrictions on guns, will provoke implementation of martial law, will “legitimize” the use of drones.

              They should grieve because of this. Their son helped usher in the police state and NWO.

            • mustangbob, I agree with you, I’m sure their child will be missed dearly. As for everyone else making poor comments on a very sad situation, your parents in your own eyes have done much worse as you sit on your ass blaming everyone but yourselves for the SHTF. But yet you’ve actually only let it progress, if you dont understand why, its probably best, as you’ve never questioned yourself, and are still chewing grass with a bell around your neck. Comments such a these are the best proof of that.

      13. If the NWO does exist and it comes to America it will be because of the brain dead people that we have in society. Right now we have so many things that politicians do that are completely out of line and against the Constitution and since no one stands up to them they just keep bringing out more unjust and unconstitutional laws. The Patriot Act should’ve been stopped dead in it’s tracks but at that point Americans were blinded by revenge from 9/11 and the bullshit fed to us by the MSM. IMHO I think we are already done for because “we the people” will not hold our politicians accountable. Ask yourselves this. If our Government can do what they’re doing presently and get away with it, then why couldn’t our government just go ahead and make us part of the NWO?

        • Gator

          I respectfully suggest it is in America already, and Canada, and the UK, and Australia…..it is here already Gator. I do agree that brain-dead or at best semi-comatose populations have Llowed this to slip by them, but it has been going on for a long time, a new law here, more regulation there. They allow the people to adjust, to get used to something and then slip in another one and so on an so on. It has been a gradual process, insidious in its spread around the globe.

          Your government has made you part of this Gator, as has mine. We have witnessed several scenes of this play, the hope is that enough people wake up, and that enough people make waves, that the final act, the implementation of a one world government, is never witnessed.

          Take care

          • They have a firm grasp on Australia the people are asleep, our Police are being militarized we have no constitutional rights our government is running wild with all sorts of policies straight out of agenda 21,and just blatantly ignoring the wishes of it’s people, we have a Prime minister we didn’t even elect. Our Nation has slowly been disarmed, about the only weapon you can own with out a licence is a bow,you can’t even have a crossbow our industries have gone the same way as the USA most of our mines and farmland are now owned by Chinese companies. A lot of past Australian traditions are being band in-case we offend Muslims and other foreigners that move here. I could go on forever but I wont…..

        • Just watch the last half hour of “Red State” for a fictional, yet all too real take on this.

        • I agree with Burt. Not only is the NWO already here in America, it is CENTERED here. NYC and DC.

          OBL went directly after the central symbols of that NWO: the Twin Towers, Congress/Whitehouse, and the Pentagon.

          The USG operates in complete lockstep with the financial powers that govern global monetary matters. The US Treasury and Fed belong to them, and so does the president and Congress (no matter which party you want to point to). When they get together for a conference, they use Blackwater and the Secret Service. When they get together to steal an oilfield, they use the US Army/Navy/Marines/AF. When they want us all together here in the U.S., they’ll use FEMA.

          BTW: You all know that the labor of each of us is a “national resource” that can be seized by the USG? http://theintelhub.com/2012/03/17/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness/

          Take a close look at Parts V and VI, which set up the command structure and authority for the conscription of civilians for military and labor purposes. Of course, we’ve had military drafts from time to time, and we have certainly interned segments of the population from time to time (still do with the Indians). But here is your recipe for internment and labor (concentration) camps, in black and white. Don’t be surprised when implementation begins, and don’t say you weren’t warned.

          • Hiya Nehweh

            My knowledge of US law and such is quite limited, but I agree, it has arrived and is not going away unless forced to do so.

            Take care

            • Just wanted to say, Burt: I watch this thread every day, but I’m busy, so I don’t comment much. But you have things spot on. Nice to see in GB. (I have, in the past, had a bit of a bug about “limeys.”) You are in a more difficult situation than we are in the U.S., IMHO. From firearms to banking, your choices are even more constricted than ours. At least we still have millions of acres of free space to roam in, and the guns to ensure that we can do that with relative impunity. I see your cameras and surveillance, and wonder how the hell you folks even breathe.

              You ever make it up to the Pacific Northwest, look me up. You’ll have a place to land. You can find me by my name. Not on the internet, but by asking people by word of mouth. I’m kind of famous in these parts, but most folks don’t know my true name. Some do. They will get you to me.

        • “If”??? Really???

        • We already are, the U.N. exists because of US funding. But that’s convenient, I wont have to travel far to collect “holy blue helmets” just hope they’re not smart enough to cover them with camp until its too late.

          The one with the most holy blue helmets wins.

          Happy hunting.

        • Um…Gator…It’s been here for a while now. This ain’t a drill, buddy.

        • What do you want us to do? How do we hold them accountable? I have called, pleaded and begged them to stop the madness. I have tried to vote some of them out only to find out the new ones are just as fleckless as the old ones. Everybody says do something, but what?

          WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO???

      14. What a load of crap! Anyone who believes this nonsesnse is being sold misinformation know as “Active Measures”.

        The American people have been fed so much b.s. since the 1960’s by these enemies of the West that folks can’t even tell what is real anymore.
        A few examples: 911 was an inside job, Kennedy was killed by The Right, Aids is a CIA plot, or America never landed on the moon.
        My source for this are KGB files, obtained during the Yelsin years, from the book “The Sword and The Shield.

        Let’s blame Zionists, or ‘The Corp” for our troubles. Pretend that it does not matter that our President is a Communist, surrounded by communists, endorsed by The Communist Party of America and Pravda.

        I’m gone for good, too many kooks, bye!

        • Put whatever label you want on it….being a mushroom won’t solve problems. Just ask those mushrooms Stalin planted.

        • C-Ya

        • Only the US government could kill JFK and get away with it. The CIA and MIC had no love for him and after his death both pro war horses were positioned in the two horse Presidential race of 1964 and with a False Flag event we got Vietnam.

          All conspiracies are not valid and all are not invalid. You can’t group in Santa Claus with the Federal Reserve to discredit the latter because the former is obviously bogus.

          All conspiracy theories stand or fall on their own individual merits.

        • Auntie

          You remind me of the little bird who refused to fly south for winter. All the other little birds flew but he stayed put. Food got scarcer, the weather got colder, eventually he knew he would have to follow the flock. Off he went, his little wings were so tired, ice built up on them and eventually the weight was too much and he crashed to earth. He landed in a farmyard, he could do nothing he was so cold. The farmer was taking a cow for milking, and as it ambled past the little bird, it dropped a huge steaming cow pat right on top of him. The little bird thought he was done for but the heat from the dung melted the ice, the little bird was so happy he popped his head up and chirruped for all he was worth. At this point the farm cat pounced and ate him.

          The moral of this story is it sometimes it pays to stick with those who have evaluated the situation and have acted accordingly, if you decide not to, and end up in the shit, keep your head down

          Take care

          • Burt the Brit,

            In other words, follow the flock? Be a follower even if you disagree, because they know better? You do not give birds enough credit, they are a lot tougher and smarter than we are. You’re assuming that Auntie Commie will end up in the shit, however you may be standing in enough of it, to warrant wearing a pair of boots.

            Take care.

            • Ocumgache

              If the flock, ie the awake have evaluated the situation there maybe safety in numbers. If you go it alone and are in it up to your neck, keep your head down.

              I assume nothing about auntie, and in my opinion, we are all in the shit to a degree, me included.

              Of course nobody should follow anything they disagree with, auntie mentioned several high profile issues, I personally don’t think that is what people are referring to. My impression, which could be wrong is that concerns regarding the new world order are related to rights and freedoms that are being eroded.

              For the record, the way it is going my boots will not be enough, waders will be the order of the day.

              Take care

          • Burt the Twit, you remind me of many of the Psych patients I took care of in my career. You had better watch out, “The Bankters” are out to get you…Twit.

            • There’s no need to make personal attacks and call names, Auntie. Everyone isn’t obligated to agree with you.

            • Auntie

              You seem to have issues lol
              never mind, if using the word twit makes you feel better go for it. I swear to God auntie, I have been called so much worse, try bitch, fits my character far better lol

              Anyway, I thought you were leaving all us kooks and twits and buggering off, obviously not, welcome back.

              How many psych nurses does it take to change a lightbulb?

              Only one, but the lightbulb really has to want to be changed.

              Take care

            • Auntie,

              I am giving you a thumbs up just because I can…isn’t it annoying when someone is obnoxious for no apparent reason?

            • @AC
              “you remind me of many of the Psych patients I took care of in my career.”

              Hmm, “took care of”? you mean like, wrestled the “Psych patients” down in their cells while they were medicated and in a straight jacket then you corn holed them with your tiny pecker? … that kind of “took care of”? The way you verbally swagger and boast around here, you fit the psychological profile, perfectly.

              (To the rest of you, sorry I had to stoop so low with this comment, it was a low blow and I’ll get what’s coming to me, but clearly AC, the same AC who said at 12:50 PM on May 2nd “I’m gone for good, too many kooks, bye!” I figured at least he had enough integrity to stick to his word, but then again, considering the profile…)

              Now whose word can you trust, anymore?

            • i THOUGHT YOU WERE gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Hahahahaha. That story gives me a sadistic pleasure.

            But, the if the story was accurate, than one bird would have flown south and the rest would have called him a crazy right -wing nut and said “that’s so stupid, the government gives me food, and it hasn’t gotten cold in a year. It will never happen again ”

            Then it did freeze the cold and starving birds rioted and the government killed them and enslaved the survivors while telling them “you are free and these reasonable restrictions are to keep you safe.”

            • Jason

              Love it…feel free to change it to the “new” version

              Take care

          • Actually, the ending I heard was “those who shit on you are not necessarily your enemies, and those who get you out of deep shit are not necessarily your friends. If you are in deep shit and still doing fine, then keep your mouth shut”!

            • Moon

              Not heard that one but made me laugh.

              Take care

        • Auntie Commie,

          I will miss your posts, I hope you reconsider. This is not an exclusive club, where everyone has to think the same or your lambasted, or is it? Good luck, I respect your post.

        • Bye Auntie. Don’t let the door hit ya in the butt.

          • And Auntie …… Beware cows bearing “gifts”

        • Well, Anti-commie, the president may have communist leanings and maybe he is endorsed by the CPA and Pravda(I take your word for this) but he works for a corporation. So does Romney. Two sides of the same coin. Neither has an interest in the well being of the common man.The Sword and Shield deals with operations BEFORE the downfall of the USSR. That was 20 years ago.Since the Communist party is no longer in control of Russia(although Putin IS an ex KGB agent) and they have a semblance of a capitalistic economy now, who is to say is now in charge? I am not saying Russia is not a formidable foe, I am saying I am not too certain they haven’t been co-opted by the NWO too.

          • JRS: Russia hasn’t been totally co-opted because Putin is above all a nationalist, then a crook, and then a dictator, in the mold of all dictators.

            BUT Russia is being slowly integrated into the NWO; at least to the extent that Putin allows it. Once he is gone, Russia will fall to the NWO like a sack of bricks from a ten story building.

            Engage the NWO or be enslaved by it.

          • Prove that!

            • U still here? Thought you were going. Bye!

          • Russia and Constitutional America fighting side by side to preserve freedom from a sea of U.N tyrants that are enslaving the world.

            And I disagree, Russia is a very formidable foe, the organization that says “no nukes” is the U.N. if Russia is at war with the U.N. than who will stop them? Exactly

            AND a 5.45 causes much more tissue damage than a 5.56

        • You know you’ll be back just to see if we’re still talking about you……..

          And we will be.

        • Call it what you want, Communists, NWO, Zionists. It just doesnt mattter. What does matter is that it is a few trying to control and manipulate the masses tofurther advance their own wealth and power. It has been going on throughout the history of mankind. Until the people get tired of being pushed around, nothing will change. When the change happens, there will be chaos and death. Then another group will take control, things will be better or worse, then the cycle will start all over again.
          Auntie, dont leave because you are getting bashed. This is what freedom of speech is about. You have the right to say what you want, no matter if nobody else sees it your way.

        • Thank God! Don’t let the proverbial door hit ya on the way out!

          You are a NUT case!! And you give truth seekers a bad name with all your “real” and “verified” conspiracy claims! WOW!!

          This fella is the absolute definition of “One Who Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”!!! 😉

      15. Bye

        • Geez Louise!!! What’s with all the folks storming out the door? What happened to a good rollicking debate, with everyone (well mostly) on the same side afterwards?

          The openness to debate is what makes this site so great!

          Join hands now, and sing with me.

          Kumbayaaaaaaaa…..

          • Daisy

            Love it lol

            Take care

          • daisy, there is nothing really to debate. anyone with a brain of substance knows that the NWO certianly does exist. why anyone would doubt it is beyond me.

      16. There’s no doubt that there a lot of influential people working towards a one-world government. Isn’t it interesting that every central bank in the world is destroying their currency at the same time?

        • Barn cat

          I agree with you totally. How much harder it would be to sell the idea of a single global currency if everyone was doing well.

          Take care

          • I think that the only “global currency” they are actually “selling” is gold…

            • the dream of a global currency is quickly going out the door. it is a farce to suggest that it will work or be accepted.

          • I don’t think it’ll be just one global currency. Not yet anyway. Few items in the news regarding Prime Ministers Gillard and John Key recently of Australia and New Zealand respectively.
            Tourism Australia is calling for passports to be done away with for New Zealanders and Australians to transit the “ditch” between the two countries. And yet again, a call to create a single currency for the two countries, which of course would Patriotically be called the ANZAC!!!!
            Only things stopping the two countries from amalgamating is sport!!
            When Australia joined all her States and Territories to form the Commonwealth of Australia way back in the day, New Zealand opted out and set up their own Dominion instead. Provision is still on the books in Australia for the Kiwis to become the seventh State or to split the North Island and South Island to form a seventh AND eighth State.
            Also recently calls for Australia and New Zealand to join their Militaries. Called the ANZAS Part 2.
            We’re getting closer!!!

          • There is no real profit in a global currency, so I don’t expect one anytime soon. Only the government globalists on the left who want one world government want one currency. Then they would tax everybody equally, or at least with the same currency.

            The GB’s want global corporatism (world fascism)controlled, led, and financed by Global Banking.

            The currency markets are the largest markets in the world and the major banks take a piece of every transaction. Why kill the goose that lays the golden eggs?

            Follow the money.

      17. Gator…Sad to say but the fed corp gov here is already an arm of the NWO

        • JRS

          Re:common purpose

          Have you read up on these people? They are a bit in yer face about their aims. Bringing together companies and leaders, working for a better world, endorsed by well known companies across the globe. They have a so called training programmes, training managers for the challenges of the 21 st century, training them for leadership roles etc, in the UK and the US. They are US based, a 501 ( can’t remember the letter in brackets) they work “with governments to improve the future for everyone” they appear to take their name from a Obama speech made in 2009. Their web page has a section for him and one for Boston but I haven’t read them yet.

          Have a look, I have an opinion but will wait until I have read a bit more before I voice it. I assume it will be okay to get back to you on here?

          take care

          • The site I linked to was based in the UK. However it makes sense they would also be here in the US. After all, the District of Columbia and the City of London are joined at the hip. Thanks…cheerio

            • commonpurpose.org gets you to the US site

      18. 9/11 most likely was an inside job. The “Patriot Act” was released a few weeks after 9/11 – legal experts claim it took years to write.

        Google “PNAC” (Project for the New American Century) – read several links not just one. The plans are all there. Along with the government signatories supporting it. No surprises there. Both sides of the coin.

        That’s why “they” hate the internets. Go LOOK for yourself. The official govt website is scrubbed but there are enough screen-shots and documentation still out there. “PNAC” Google it.

        FYI: The commies source debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories, “The Sword and the Shield” was published in 1999 – BEFORE 09/11/2001 even happened.

        • 911 was “most likely” an inside job??? hahahahaha… wrong.. it is without a doubt a 100 percent certainty that 911 WAS an inside job!blame the mossad and the cia

      19. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SAY ENOUGH IN ONE VOICE! THE BALLOT BOX IS NOT WORKING

      20. For me it’s not so much whether I believe or not, it’s whether based on a rapidly shifting social/political landscape I see it as a likely outcome along with many other insidious roads we as a Country could head down. We can fall prey unknowingly or arm ourselves with knowledge and spirit enough to fight and survive should it come about.

      21. Anyone ever wonder why the NWO is so efficient,when it’s the same people who can barely tie their shoes without help? Sorry, I just don’t believe in this hundreds of year long conspiracy, And mostly why, bother. The old Mob had the problem of their children going straight. Once you are rich why risk being a crook. Once you are a multi Billionaire why conspire? With that kind of money there is nothing you cannot do with a little care. You want to make it with little boys. go to Dubai like M. Jackson, nobody cares. Why spend your time trying to control a world you already can buy anyting in. for generations. Go to a yaught club where the rich are, just like us they want to enjoy life. theigrandchildren can rule the world.

        • because its not about just money
          its about the uncontrolled LUST FOR POWER over other people
          it is a sickness
          a disease worse than any cancer

          • yes satori , it most certainly is and it affects alot of people and their victims. it is a sickness that i have come to see that MOST people actually have, but few are actually able to do much about it.those that can , wreak havoc on all of their victims. i dont understand it at all as i completely shun and avoid being in the position of having power over people. it is not a responsibility that i crave.

            • Gekko Greed.

        • Paranoid

          “And mostly why, bother….Once you are rich why risk being a crook.”

          Why?

          Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. A crook breaks laws. They avoid Malum prohibitum because they control the laws and could care less about Malun in se.

          This is not about money it’s about power. The desire for absolute power is a disease that has plagued mankind and infected those most likely to abuse it the wealthy and powerful.

        • Paranoid

          Why do we get Free Trade with slave labor nations that had decimated our industrial base and regardless what party you voted for their votes both supported it? One better; why did the socialist democracies in Europe with organized labor having so much political power do the same thereby guaranteeing tremendous job losses?

          There is not a democracy / republic on the planet that The People actually control. There is far too much at stake.

        • Paranoid.

          I see what you are saying, but I disagree, I don’t believe this is just about money. This is about power, about inflicting their beliefs on the rest of us……most people here believe that they need to prepare for some major event, they act accordingly. Those with power believe they need to prepare for some major event, they act accordingly. The problem is, those storing food and water, learning to use weapons and all that, in general harm nobody, they do not push their views onto others, they do not impose rules and regulation on me you or anyone else.Those in power who decide to reduce the population to make the planet more balanced, more able to support those who are left harm millions to achieve their goals, they force people to adhere to laws and regulations that further their cause, often stating that it is for the good of those people. This is a disgusting abuse of power and these men and women need to be brought to book for it.

          Take care

        • Paranoid

          “Anyone ever wonder why the NWO is so efficient,when it’s the same people who can barely tie their shoes without help?”

          Ever see a list of who shows up at a Bilderberg Group meeting? Are you kidding me with your statement? Well many are graduates of Harvard, Yale (Skull & Bones, look it up), Oxford and Cambridge (Rhodes Scholars recruited in their youth and “Globalized”), MIT and the like. Bankers that control the wealth of not just nations but regions. They employ others in think tanks, Carnegie, RAND, Center for American Progress and many more who’s participants are even better educated in their chosen fields. Their resources and intelligence capital is endless.

        • If you have ever known any of those grandchildren, they are quite bored. Great-grandad came to the USA from somewhere, with nothing, and built a comfortable life. Grandad and his siblings took that money and parlayed it into huge wealth. Mom or Dad live on their interest and like to bankroll various endeavors, usually utopian. What’s a 4th generation trustfunder to do?

          They can join Occupy, but they insist on being cadre. They can start a commune, but then they have to work, too. Much better to join the family firm and accumulate power, maybe run for office or become the power behind the throne. Cloak it all in “being and doing good”, while actually just cementing their own status as one of the elite. Among themselves, they are scathing of their own class.

          I’ve known a few of the Mom and Dad generation and am now watching the 4th generation find their own way. Those who tell you it is about power are correct. After all, if you have always known luxury and been able to have anything, you can get to the point where it is meaningless. Rarely have they ever been told “no”. They grow up in gsated compounds with security, go to private resorts, beyond 5-star, always have driven or been driven in luxury cars, always flown private jets, always had a world-class chef on call, always been able to buy anything they want. By the time they are 20 or whenever they receive their trust, they may have even spent a year or so pretending to be average, starting a rock band, designing a clothing line, whatever anyone would do if they had the funding. They have already enjoyed everything the world has to offer. By 25 or so, they want much more. They are also insecure about themselves, because they have no incentive to do anything for the sake of security and, unless immensely talented at something, they do not have the same competitive spirit as the rest of us. They compete for power among themselves by funding NGOs to tear down the source of their boredom and frustration. Sounds counterintuitive to us, but many of them are angry as they can be because even with all their money and connections, the world is, in their eyes, imperfect. They are capable of world-class tantrums.

          It is only we peasants who think that money is the ultimate answer, because so few of us have enough of it.

        • Paranoid,
          Search through history, you will find the same group of parasites destroying civilizations, financing, instigating, and manipulating wars, and thier outcomes, and leaving millions of dead in thier wake for the last 3000 years. Only now, they have thier end-game in sight. Money is only a tool for them, power is thier goal. It’s all there in thier own words for anyone to read.

          • Same play, differant players. Since the beginning. IMHO, the big change is technology that allows folks to communicate instantly, fom anywhere. To much info coming in from every angle. Hard to process. Our li’l brains cope with change on a generational scale. Couple major changes in a lifetime. We’re getting bombarded with stuff every five years or so.
            I was talking to a youngster (24yo), about having to find a pay phone when my wife had our child (26 yrs ago). She looked at me like I had two heads. Couldn’t contemplate a world without cell phones. Heck, I remember 3 channels on TV and some crappy stuff on uhf(what?)

            • Yeah Rick, and the TV was black and white!

      22. @ Burt. I know you’re concerned with being able to defend yourself w/out being able to own knives or guns. I just bought a small LED flashlight that’s incredibly powerful. I take it with me on nightly dog walks. It lights up the whole park so I can make sure no one is in there before I enter and if someone gets too close, I will shine it in their eyes. It really is an alternative ‘weapon’.
        Cops do the shine it in your eyes thing all the time…or so I hear!

        • Lil bit

          Good idea…don’t tell anyone but I have just ordered a laser pen from Amazon, pretty much the same idea…great minds and all that.
          Thanks

          Take care

          • Don’t forget the binoculars or spotting scope… the effective range of your laser is far beyond where you can see it with the naked eye.

            • Too many

              I would never have considered that. Thanks

              Take care

          • Burt

            Taxi cab drivers in NYC carry Raid Hornet and Wasp Spray. It has a reach of about 16ft in a stream and will blind anyone if sprayed in their face.

            A good strong slingshot propelling a 1/2 oz lead ball will kill at close range.

            • Burt

              Tell the bobbies your allergic to bee / wasp stings.

            • Kevin 2

              It’s inflammable as well…..goes up like a flame thrower, very useful bit of kit.

              Take care

            • Does this stuff really work,though? I bought a can of it after I received a group e-mail stating it was recommended as a self-defense product for women. Then I read somewhere that the blinding effect was overhyped. I don’t plan on testing it on anybody unless I have to! I think I’ll get one of those laser pens or slingshots as a backup.

          • Ok Burt,
            I’m almost starting to like you, so i will offer you a suggestion on the lights and lasers.
            Nina, is spot on about practicality within range of an attacker. Lasers and lights are far better at distance but can be very disruptive at close range. Check out the company called
            Wicked Laser. They make a flashlight that can light a piece of paper from 6″ away.
            And they make the most powerful laser you can buy.
            Really, is it too much to ask for a freak’n laser beam? I don’t think so.
            What is the UK prepper cite called?
            I’d like th see how rank amateurs approach the topic.
            Regards,
            Slick

            • Slick

              Thanks for the info…that sounds a very powerful deterant. For that reason I will hedge that it is illegal here lol

              I will look into it

              Take care

            • Calicogwen

              Dunno about the blinding effect but light the spray and watch the burglar trying you back door run…works for me

              Take care

        • Powerful flashlights/spotlights are practical for offense and defense and are much better than any pepper spray. Really powerful lights are very effective even in broad daylight.

        • PERSONAL DEFENSE 101 from a 8 year experienced Vet: ;0) this is a great idea… only problem is by the time a real world threatening person is actually physically threatening your person giving you reason to use it… the attacker is already in your face hurting you!

          Also most active predators are between ages of 14 and 40 strong males and they will prey upon the “meek” in places hidden from public view!!!

          Focus more on avoiding such places, carrying close combat protection weapon ice pick screw driver mace tazer stun gun baton, dressing defensively thick leather thick jeans combat boots, carry a personal alarm whistle digital screecher alarm and keeping your personal property hand bags properly secure in “front” pockets.

          If people kept stuff properly hidden , locked and secure there wouldn’t be any stealing!!!

          If you act weak… you will attract societies predators! Walk Strong!!!

          As the World goes down the crapper it will just keep getting worse no matter where you live!!! It’s now Open Social Class Warfare!!!

          DON’T KID YOURSELF – WHEN WHERE THE BLADE MEETS THE MEAT , EVEN WITH FAMILY!!! It’s every mutha-phooker for themselves!!!

          Personal Defense points of Attack are EYES, THROAT, BALLS!!! In that order!!! SOFT POINTS ARE FACE , NECK , UNDER ARMS , ARM PITS , GROIN , BACK OF KNEE – it’s your life your property only you can defend it!!! TRAIN FOR IT – PREPARE!

          Cops have sold us All out , are worthless now , part of the problem ( AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME 20 MNUTES ) , in todays predatory world YOUR ON YOUR OWN EXCEPT IT!!!

          Good Luck one and all in the hard times here now and coming!!!

          ~NinaO

          • Nina

            Thanks for the advice, all tips very graciously received.
            take care

          • what if there are no balls?

            • women are more sensitive around the clitoral area just above it against the pubic bone ridge… strike there with booted heel, knee, closed fist, or firm heel of hand. they’ll drop… valid question considering how many women now serve the nwo nato u.n. armed forces gestapo fed gov!

              if their armed they are a threat… drop em!!! only a fool would ignore the threat just cause their women with guns!!!

              ~NinaO

            • to ncprepper. iam from raleigh nc and was wondering what part of nc you are from. i understand if you dont feel comfortable answering. God Bless.

          • nina
            excellent words of advice and truthful words.

            • @eeder ;0) … thank you eeder! we do try don’t we… i just wish more people were truly “awakened” by now. its going to be hard here real soon for alot of folks… and alot of young American kids and Iranian , Gaza Palestinians , Egyptians , Lebanese kids too are gonna die soon on the other side of the world for a group of people (da’ zionist jooo’s) who don’t even care about em’ for other peoples stolen sheeit!!!

              And we are the “BAD evil GUYS” this time around for sure!!!

              Take care Brotha, watch your six…

              ~NinaO

          • The Jelly Dounut – If people kept stuff properly locked and secure there wouldn’t be any stealing!!!

            USMC Parris Island Marine Boot Class – How to Properly Secure your USMC Issued Foot Locker:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUSDg7NSODw

            ~ Full Metal Jacket

        • I bought a small LED aluminum flashlight today for $20 bucks US….it is aluminum with a tactical advantage.
          The “shade” that surrounds the lens is scalloped shaped…and has 3 nicely machined points. At first glance it is a flashlight….but if push comnes to shove,
          it will remove an eye….or put some nice gashes in exposed flesh. I will carry this in areas where a pistol or knife is forbidden. There are several companies making this type of product. Some are rather expensive, & then there are some that are pretty inexpensive. Burt might be able to find/purchase something like this on e-Bay. If not….I can buy one & ship it to you. Everyone needs a good flashlight !

          • Need to get me one of those. May I ask if the company export?

            Take care

            • @Carolie UK get a … Stun Gun Baton 5 million volts, Siren, LED light, Rechargeable Wrist Strap Safety Disable Pin. Find a local Bully Boy there in the Back Alley pub they’ll know who sells em’ off market… it’s just a simple fact our governments are illegal criminal run mafias and we have to now take steps to defend ourselves from them!!! Or perish!!!

              I own this … and it “WORKS” ( Tested it on my own R BIG TOE , I about had a friggin “Heart Attack” pee’d and shaat myself ;0) Darwins Law here , wont be doing that again soon! ).;0P

              Cobra 5 Million Volt Rechargeable Stun Gun with Siren, Holster & LED Flashlight *Pointed metal end probes. *14-1/2 inches long x 1-1/2 inches diameter. *Exposed metal strip electrodes keeps them from taking it from you *3 position feature switch. (Off, Flashlight, Siren) Disable pin. Must be inserted to fire. *Free Holster. 5 million volt spark and has the ability to affect muscle function. It has the highest voltage of any we sell. This rechargeable stun gun with built-in siren is a self defense device which disrupts the messages the brain sends to the voluntary muscles. Simply touching an attacker with a stun tip end for three to five seconds will deliver a shock causing loss of balance, muscle control, confusion and disorientation bringing him to his knees and making him incapable of further aggressive activity. Full recovery takes about five to ten minutes and there is no permanent harm. Requires no batteries – we have included a recharge cord. The Cobra brand stun gun shown has more features than any other stun unit of this type on the market. It is the world’s strongest stun unit. At 5,000,000 volts this is the highest power stun gun of this style available. Just test firing this unit into the air is often enough to stop an attacker. As the bright electric current pulsates between the test prongs and creates an intimidating electrical sound an attacker with any sense at all will be stopped in his tracks. If the sight and sound does not stop them a jolt from this unit certainly will! This stun unit has 2 levels of safety built in- first the disable pin must be inserted and second the trigger depressed. This stun unit has a second 3 position switch. (off, flashlight and siren) Includes a nylon strap with a disable pin to make it very difficult for an attacker to take it away from you or use it against you if they do. Pistol grip handle. Holster Included – includes a heavy duty nylon holster with belt loop for easy carrying. Includes satin lined gift box.

      23. The SPLC is a far left disinformation clearinghouse and a domestic terrorist organization… period. If you read their bullshit, and the mainsteam’s puff pieces on them, you might think the only domestic terrorists are on the right.

        The founding fathers would have been called terrorists by the British had the word been popular in their time.

        • Toomany

          The British government regard anyone with a gun who doesn’t agree with them a terrorist. I dare say you are right that they would have done so 230-250 years ago ( please Dear Lord let that estimate be right….this is an American site Lord and I am trying to make friends….google….thank you Lord)

          Ahem, I think you are right that the British would have thought this 236 (almost) years ago Toomany, er, good post and all that.

          Take care

      24. It all started with the Pet Rock sold in the 70s. Bet the PTBs were lighting up a big fat cigar and laughing their asses off over that one. Point is, we are the few, proud and will likely take the brunt of this perverse paradigm shift for the sheeples. I stand resistant to the end!

        • I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Every lifeform on the planet has some sort of a limit. Then instinct or “natural law” kicks in and thins the herd, so to speak. Why should humans be any differant? What behive for example could sustain, if only half went out and collected nectar?
          Take the fox away, rabbits multiply too fast, and die of starvation. Or a fox find his way back and has a feast. Either way, same outcome. Somebody want to explain to me why Humans a differant? Sure, we’re a “higher order”, but you can’t fool mother nature, or the Great Pumpkin, or whatever you believe is in control.
          The herd is destined for a thinnin’. To many bleeding the host organism. Top and bottom.

      25. The question could be asked as: “do we know if we’re living in the new world order, or not?”

        I think NWO is a real state of existence, and that the world is transitioning into it; all the wars since the 60s until now are for material and labor issues – none of these wars were for national, religious, or humanitarian interests. The managers of these wars use nationalism, religion, and/or humanitarianism to garner cooperation with their objectives. The wars are cloaked under the cover of communist containment theory, but in reality these wars or ground skirmishes facilitate the aggression and violation of property and civil rights by a determined central group. It appears that if you didn’t need these leaders before, you will in the future – because they will have control of all material and labor, and everything you need for life (forget quality of life, I’m talking about just being able to live). Don’t think for a moment that nothing has changed and things are the same – they’re not. These people have no conscience about killing; they’ll justify it to you in terms of religion, nationalism, or humanitarianism – but to them, they’re just meeting “their” business goals.

      26. dont let ‘m fool ya the NWO is alive and well…

        • wally
          yes, may be true… however im not certain anyone knows what the NWO actually is anymore…

      27. Highspeed

        Links always fail me on here, I will do it in words, oh please say I can come and watch ..pleeeeseeeeee

        Do not expect articles
        Do not expect news
        Do not expect anything really

        Oh and you have to resister on some of them and wait days and days to be allowed in

        p2p no comment at all
        uk peppers…they may get back to you….one day
        ghost nation….oh you will love her….gives out her mobile number and does free tarot readings

        Take care…and don’t blame all the British….some of us do have a clue.

      28. To me, this is the bottom line: civil war is coming to this country, started by the promoters of the NWO. If we patriots lose, we will be severely dealt with by their praetorian guard. If we win, the NWO crowd and all it’s minions, including the propaganda machine of the SPLC, will be severely dealt with. Someone once said that the victor writes the history books. I would alter that only to say; the victor DICTATES the history books. I have to wonder which history book our children and grandchildren will read?

      29. You know what I find funny is the article states that in all the movies and books conspiracy theorists are portrayed as kooks or loons. Yet the way I remember them is that they turn out to be right.

      30. Wow T.N.W.O. Is what we really need to have our heads wraped around. I Do think the road of what is to come lead’s to World being one .It will happen.The sign’s are all around us. Now the real question is what are we going to do?I mean Really.Hide in the shadow’s?Living out in the wood’s.Hiding? Underground movement?I’d like to know.I love this site.You are great people.But which plan doe’s us grab on to?I know freedom is the greatest.I know about being ready Gun Glory Gut’s etc.The very powerful are setting us up.Little by little.Well I say we are ready.But the question still grab’s at me .How why and when.I am really worried.Not just for me but for those who are not ready,I pray the truth will be seen.

        • I don’t think a “NWO” would ever be succesful. People a just too nationalistic, socially grouped. The Germans are not French. Arabs are not Japenese. Birds of a feather, (want to) flock together.
          The great thing about America was, you come here; you were beat up and humiliated; you perservered; you learned English; your kids became American, and you were proud. Whats differant now?? A country full of hyphenated-Americans, that want to preserve their native customs, language, etc. And we wonder how they divide us so easily. Our strenghth was derived form the “test” it took to become American.
          NWO is going to be like herding cats. Heck, one of the most powerful forces on the planet can’t control the most backward.
          Don’t forget why the Japenese said they would never invade America. A gun behind every blade of grass.
          Only problem, all the citizens won’t be pointed in the same direction.

      31. “Under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner. . . .” [This is compassionate liberalism.]
        Fabian Socialist Bernard Shaw in his Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928.

        There are enough quotes from these people to fill a book. They have 2 goals really, the NWO is just the first one.

        We know, and have known for a very long time, that this was coming. The question then becomes: “What is to be done?”

        Sadly, most people will continue to try and press on with thier lives, trying to avoid the truth, pretend tomorrow will always be like yesterday, until they wake up one morning unable to change the situation.

        A sad end to a once great people and civilization.

      32. this is very important- when whoever the dems or gop try and ban guns under a false flag, they will do it fast and knock out internet. many will allow guns to be taken due to they dont want to be arrested or start a fight when things seem peaceful, that is how it will happen. 2nd dont be fooled and you say you are going to defend your house regardless but how many really will? I hope that we all do and shut this down, we have rights and they are the aggressors and their the ones breaking laws, so dont feel like you are doing anything wrong, you are following the laws, be aware whats going on and never believe everything you see. Dont over prep be realistic because you might have to move locations or your place in burning down from a fire. if no firemen are around and a fire is buring in a neighborhood your in after 2 houses go its going to flame the others. you know what i mean. for you that are new to weapons get guns that shoot common rounds, 9mm 12 gauge etc. know your home well with lights out and with distractions. run senerious SEN NAR I OOS whoever its spelled lol. I would for sure get a 12 gauge for newer shooters, you will be able to hit your target indoors or close much easier.

      33. the nwo has been in place for quite some time as an idea

        and implemented step by step over the last 100 years ..slowly but surely..

        they were patient

        they were diligent

        they have succeeded ..

        they have technology light years ahead of us

        they now control all systems of finance..food..energy..laws..media..social constructs..education..labor unions..and own the majority of western world politicians verbatim..

        and are embarking on a slow kill via all the above through gmo’s..vaccinations..destruction of the worlds economies..and bringing the masses to their knees as the sheep consume and embrace the media bread and circuses provided through the media complex..

        and eliminate or marginalize those who stand against them.

        witness the elimination of sovereign countries worldwide.

        witness the global implosion of economies worldwide

        witness the manipulation of weather via chemtrails/haarp

        what more do you need to witness?

        stand proud

        stand tall

        possee

      34. NWO is very real. It is spolen about clearly in the Bible. All beware and start reading up. The capitol will be in babaloyn (sorry if spelling os not correct) We (America) already has one building there that is the size of 140 football fields. IT is fully equipt with a swimming pool (indoor) tennis court, and food courts. It is vacant but ready to go when all is ready. I thank the good Lord that I have him as my rock and I cling to the belief of a pre trib rapture. NWO is spoken in Bible many times in prophecy. No time to read and get diggin in the scriptures? a quick way is rent the movie “Left Behind” a pretty acurate portrayel of what will happen. It also has some nuggets of survival ideas in the second one.And think about this all the micro chip stuff the gov is planning on is spoken of in the Bible too…the mark of the beast wither on the hand or head, will not be able to sell or trade. It also speaks and warns of hyperinflation”a days wages for a loaf of bread” I think that is what are SHTF will be because God said that is what it will be, and I do not think God lies….Just my perception of things, I use as many resources as I can and the top ranking one is scripture, the second well is this site 🙂

        • Yes the New World order is spoken of. So is Babylon that will go down in “one hour”.
          What make’s you think there are any ‘saint’s here?
          You should read more and listen to bs preachers less.
          The rapture is called a ‘theory’ for a reason.
          The Lord was very plain in his speech, listen to His words, not some damnable movie made from slicks. (Ever seen the those authors? They are slick.)
          Ask yourself, what is a doctrine of devils? Something that keeps you apathetic and complacent, while the ‘spiritual wickedness in HIGH places’ takes over the world?
          Do you feel any personal responsibility?
          You should.

          Your preachers preach this stuff while at the same time selling out to Caesar and taking their tax breaks, and taking Caesar’s rules, which keep you like sheep drinking their watered down milk.

          The Lord showed you the way, to whip the money changers in Righteous Indignation.
          Wait for it….

          • @ Piper although you are free to believe that the rapture is a thery I choose to believe that it is literal. the great thing about our remaining freedom, our right to believe as we wish. Second I mentioned the movie as a light expenation to the NWO not as “the meat of the word” As I did not preach but mearly shared MY thoughts and feelings of my personal belief. I was careful not to be preachy. I do not have the time to preach nor do I push my belief on others, again mearly sharing MY perception. I could go on into verses etc. but choose not to engage in theology with you as I do not have the time nor desire. I simply stated my theory on SHTF and why I believe what I do. As for my preachers you speak of I believe I did not mention where I learned my info so why ASSume that I am ill informed. Again the movie was a quick reference in re of some of the Bible in re of the NWO hope I am clearer as I can see you were upset.

      35. I tried to send a previous message but was lost, I think, so here goes with some additions. The word that stands out in the New World Order is the word ORDER. To have order those in control must have raw uncondtional obedience. With order you have no freedoms. With order your thoughts, your speech, your actions come under total control. With order people are treated just like animals in a herd to be slaughtered or used for whatever purpose THEY want. To maintain control those of the state must have order. You become a robot that MUST not malfunction, or you will be repaired through some RE-REDUCATION program or disposed of. People have to get use to the fact that they are dispensable like a piece of toilet paper under the New World ORDER.

        The world has already gone through episodes on New World Order throughout human history. Under the NWO you will become a total peon, serf, chattel, or whatever other word means slave. Just like the hierarchy of ancient Egypt, it will not be the 99% of people at the bottom, it will be the 99.99%. Like those that drove the slaves to build the pyramids and the suffering of hard deaths they succumbed to, the .001% will reap all the rewards of the lower caste individuals. Much like a pyramid, most individuals will be at the bottom far away from the unreachable top.

        There will be 3 groups of individuals in the NWO. Those at the top, the elite and totally privileged and pampered like royalty. The common peasant that will function like an android and when there is a malfunction they will be disposed of like such. The third group is the dissident that will be treated like the lonely cockroach that as long as they stay out of the way of the NWO they might be allowed to exist. Those that “infest” the NWO’s plans or their ORDER, will be exterminated. Wonderful world isn’t it?

        Anyone not totally conforming with absolutely everything that the state demands will be regarded as a cockroach. To live anywhere within the NWO, like anyone that enjoys freedom would ever consider this, will be forced to behave, think, eat, do their job, stay within all boundaries, and be totally in line ALWAYS. Any that doesn’t comply will be regarded as a threat to that ORDER. It may or may not be worth it to round up everyone that does not obey. It might be more pratical to let those freedom seekers scurry away into the countryside.

        As technolgy improves people will be forced to have mind controlling devices put into them to make sure they comply with the ORDER of the state. Electronic lobotomies call it. Don’t think this is possible, ask some older people about shock treatment and lobotomies given to those “out of control” individuals that they practiced doing it to people decades ago like the movie One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest.

        Yes, under the New World Order people trapped within the confines of it will eventually be treated and conditioned through physical and psychological means into something that resembles the Borg on Star Trek. People will become worthless drones like an insect colony with the only purpose of serving the queens and kings and the hive. Resistance is futile? I sure hope not.

        Think I am exaggerating this? It has already happened just like I said earlier in ancient Eygpt and many times after that. Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat. ONLY difference now is it is growing that much easier (with technolgical advancements) each year to make everyone obey and serve without question. Some serious looking unhappy faces deserve this one. 🙁 🙁 🙁

      36. THE U.S. CONSTITUTION is now NULL -N- VOID WORTHLESS!!!

        barry soetoro the zionist fascist traitor cia illegal puppet prez on may 1st 2012 signed away “” ALL of your “RIGHTS”!!! “” ALL OF THEM ARE NOW GONE!!! BYE BYE!!! All of You now fall under international law!!!

        NO BULLSHIT!!! NO GAMES!!! NO CONSPIRACY!!! JUST PLAIN FACT!!!

        READ AND WEEP!!! ITS NOW OFFICIALLY GAME OVER FOLKS!!! YOU LOST!!!

        ((( Note: HELP WANTED AD – I am personally looking for 5000 Angry Veterans (AGE SEX RELIGION not important) who aren’t to busy too start a Violent Revolutionary Civil War on July 4th 2012!!! The only requirement is you gotta have a shooting iron , some ammo and enough gas money to get to Washington D.C. on July 4th 2012!!! If Interested let me know here pls!!! It’s time to Arrest the Traitorous Phucks – ALL OF THEM!!! ~NinaO ))

      37. Hi, people! You know, there are some countries where NWO is already the natural state of things. It’s Russia. Our last president elections was rigged. Bu who cares? Police can arrest you whenever they want, and the don’t need any warrant. Want to see your future – come to Russia.

        • no offense meant… Russians are Mafia Enslaved PUSSSSSSSSSSIES!!!

          Soon enough here in once Free AmeriKa … we will have Russian and Chinese Military Boots on our soil End of May 2012… some are already here along with British Mexican Canadian and other nato u.n. smurfs blue helmet troops!!!

          “The “Time of the Patriot” is now here!!!”

          “The Tree of Liberty is thirsty Patriots!!!”

          “It needs to be Watered!!!”

          ~NinaO

        • WRONG!! That’s America today! All of this is going on in America right now! You want to see our future?

          It’s the lovechild of the USSR and Nazi Germany

      38. As a citizen of this country I do not recognise the infringment upon my inalienable rights.
        I will not support any of this, and there will be no monitary gain from me.
        If imprisoned, all of my family has been directed to not financially feed the beast.

        we know its all about money control and fear..I will give them none of that, they will fail coming to my door.

        when you give a man no options but to fight, its a fight you will get.

        • @vrf “It’s not the size of the Patriot Dawg that matters …

          it’s the Size of the FREEMAN CONSTITUTIONALIST FIGHT in the PATRIOT DAWG!”

          “That really matters!”

          ~NinaO

          • You Got that right

      39. VRF your right…That asshole can sign what ever he wants to…the NWO will not take over the American people…a handfull of troops can`t do nothing against over 150 million Patriots…{ and they know that }…we are smart…we are armed…and God is on our side…So The Hell With Them.

      40. I have to say that everyones post that everyone post is not going to change any form of actions,unless we do like they did back in 1776 and form our own posse to go after them before they can finish what they have started.Its going to take everone to stand together and get rid of the trash again.

      41. Some one brought up the changes in the bible over the years in the last thread.

        My question is- WHY were there so many changes and omissions??????

        Which religion encourges infiltration of other religions and nations???
        Which religion just recently translated their “bible” to english(and the translation is suspicious), and have a “companion” book so members can interprit “code” words accurately? (something to hide perhaps)

        Juliet Echo Whiskey Sierra!!!

        It is now my belief, the bishops(and possibly the pope) were infiltrated back in history(and possibly right now)Usury is ok now. Slavery?? In america/european culture?? Where did that come from?

        If they institute a world fiat currency they will rule the world.

        OOps. THATS WHAT THEY HAVE(almost) NOW WITH THE DOLLAR

      42. Dont for a second think this cant happen to you..

        Another Drug War Triumph: The Abduction and Torture of Daniel Chong

        The experience of Daniel Chong, a senior at the University of California-San Diego who was imprisoned by the DEA for five days without food, water, or toilet facilities, tidily encapsulates nearly everything that is wrong with the murderous fraud called the “War on Drugs.”

        Chong, a senior at the University of California-San Diego, was one of nine people swept up in an April 21 narcotics raid by the Drug Enforcement Administration. After his arrest he spent four hours handcuffed in a cell before being questioned. One of the agents who questioned Chong described him as someone who was “in the wrong place at the wrong time.” After being interrogated, the student was told that he would be released. Instead he was thrown into a five-by-ten-foot detention cell, where he was held for five days in conditions that would qualify as torture under the Geneva Convention (or any rational reading of domestic law). In addition to being deprived of food, water, bedding, and toilet access, Chong spent at least two days and nights in total darkness.

        The DEA’s story was that Chong was simply “forgotten.” A likelier explanation is that he was ignored, or even singled out for deliberate abuse. Chong shouted and screamed for help, kicking against the heavy door of his cell. Since he had no difficulty hearing conversations and other sounds outside his cell, there’s no reason to doubt that his pleas were heard, and simply disregarded.

        After several days, Chong — worried he might die in captivity – shattered his eyeglasses and used broken shards to carve the words “Sorry, mother” into his arm.

        Chong was not suspected of using or trafficking in drugs; one of his interrogators told him he was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

        • Gee…..think anyone will lose their job over this?

          Me neither.

      43. Suck on this Traitors

        Statement from the NRA on Self-Defense Laws

        The National Rifle Association always has and always will advocate the passage and preservation of self-defense laws. The alternative leaves the innocent in danger.

        The vast majority of states do not impose a “duty to retreat” and most Americans support laws that clarify that Common Law, common-sense right. It empowers lawful people to defend themselves, and deters would-be murderers, rapists and robbers.

        It’s a natural right. No law “gives” it or can take it away. It’s yours. It works. And its only alternative – the idea that distant, disinterested third parties can dictate after the fact that “you must retreat” – will never be accepted by the American people.

        For these reasons, the National Rifle Association will work to protect self-defense laws on the books and advocate for their passage in those states that do not fully respect this fundamental right

      44. It IS what it IS, since all f the lamestream media and varius propagada machines wish to discourage any and all discussion about the sbject and prevent anyone from even loking into or analyzing the sbject its a pretty good indicator thats its true or at least has some elements of truth in it. Whe one looks at the players, ther writings and speeches, thier actions in and out of various offices of govt and look at what is going on, I can not mysef fathom HOW in thier right minds anyone could dispute the facts aledged. Ive been studyig and watch this subject since around 1985 and it is quite apperant to me that YES it is real and YES there is some conspiritorial aspect of it behind the scenes.

        • Archer25

          You are correct sir.

          The actions governments around the world have taken to facilitate globalism despite the wishes of their respective citizens reeks of collusion. Labor which composes the majority of a nations citizens did not desire to loose their manufacturing base and with it well paid employment. Labor although the majority obviously had little say. For anyone to believe that this was just a coincidence repeated in nation after nation and not directed is utterly illogical.

      45. Proud to be a Marine. I will screw my parents and let them starve. I am a selfish obese POS spending my money on preps rather than on my mother and father, posting my bullshit here, sitting on my fat ass without a job while my parents go on the welfare dole. I am a sick fuck. Just one of the many sickos posting on this site.

        • Get a hobby, jerk.

          • I am stepping in now. ALL this fowl language is NOT needed daisy!!

            🙂

            • Er, why would he/she/they/it want to clone another poster? And how can they get on here so quick if I even get a letter wrong in my details it goes to moderation.

              I am confused, but at this time of day it’s not that hard to confuse me

              You have permission to think me stupid but I don’t get it…and Daisy are cojones balls by any chance?

              Take care

            • You have the correct definition of cojones, Burt. 🙂

      46. IMF, you are one sick fuck twit.
        Zionist Jew Jesus will send your ass to a burning HELL.

        • Have some cojones, and use your own identity to insult people instead of co-opting somebody else’s.

          • @daisy- GIT HEM!!!!!

            Another thing “they” or “him” does is complement their OWN post with another name. (just here and there, of course not ALL complements are that way)

      47. Refuse to comply. Resist. Draw your line in the sand….and when they cross it, make them pay dearly.

        Leave this world the way you came into it. Kicking. Screaming. And covered in blood.

      48. Occidental College Transcripts Reveals Obama Claimed Foreign Citizenship to get Scholarship

        “Americans for Freedom of Information” released May 2, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate.

        (conservativebyte.com/2012/05/occidental-college-transcripts-reveals-obama-claimed-foreign-citizenship-to-get-scholarship/)

        • none of his shit will be persued..because they would have to admit they let the fox into the hen house.

          tons of people would go down, and EVERYTHING he has done and signed in the past 4 years would go right down the shitter.

          Dont get me wrong, It would be great if the truth would be prosecuted to its fullest, but after seeing the lawlessness of this administration for the past 5 decades..and the cover up of the multitude of illegal acts and out right murders of US citizens, I doubt we will see anything done about him

          • Exactly, VRF, there aren’t enough jails for all involved and those that ‘said nothing’ and the courts whould be tied up for a decade..if not longer.
            Even one of the SC justices voiced this concern.

        • http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/was-obama-born-in-the-usa/

          This is ONE of the links they give. IT SHOOTS THEIR OWN “story” DOWN!

          There is no link to occidentels records.
          Liveleak link goes to a video of some guy talking.

          I call bullshit on that one. (sorry mom)

        • That pretty much spells out that the corp military and the UN troops will be used against civilians here in America. Thanks for the link

      49. KY Mom, thats a gag site and a gag article about Obama (not that I don’t think he’s a worthless POS) read the comments afterwards.

      50. Everything’s FINE!

        • F**k it! let’s to to the bar & get shit faced-n-go whoring…!!! Come Ya,ll… guys and girls, I’m buying I’ll just put it on credit…. you know f**k it! We can get back to giving a F**K after we recover!

          We’ll do it the second Friday of next week! 🙂 🙂

          • ”””’

            Anonymous, you sick fuck, go suck off IMF the other sick fuck.

          • Damn you bunch of tards! I was only being sarcastic but, I did figure some of the more weak minded would respond.

            Daisy is one cool woman in my book. I just bet she could out shoot, out philosophize, out live, any of you turds any day of the week.

      51. Testing testing

      52. Sorry been having lots of trouble posting just checking something out

      53. Bring it on Anonymous. My big fat ugly butt is waiting for your pus filled penis.

      54. What the hell is wrong with you people???

        you make me want to puke! Daisy has been on this site for a long time… who the hell are you some coward hiding behind your computer! took a lot of courage to say that hugh??? “I see your future double tap!!!” mounts to a popcorn fart don’t it!

        • Thank you BF. 🙂

          Don’t get all worked up, though. Our troll of the day is just trying to get a reaction.

          Kinda makes me wonder if it’s someone we know that we’ve all ticked off, maybe someone who left in a huff?

          • I’m as cool as a flag poll in February. Some little puke wants to talk shit, then we know that’s all they are good for. We – meaning most of us come here to talk to other like minded people. To shoot the shit/philosophize on matters that interest us.

            Daisy you are welcome to look me up on facebook if you like,.. that is if you do fd. my gmail is { [email protected] } if not that is cool too.

            P.S. People do not look me up to talk crap! I’ed hate it for you to go there…

          • @daisy-Looks like your “uncle” is back.

            Your “uncle”is an ASSHOLE.

      55. You forgot this quote: “The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.”

        – Zbigniew Brzezinski, a founder of the Trilateral Commission with Rockefeller, President Carter’s National Security Advisor, key leader in the Council on Foreign Relations and a member of the inner circle of the Obama Administration in his book Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era (Greenwood Press, 1982)
        Gee… I simply hadn’t realized that it was Hitler who won WWII. Or maybe the Communists? Either way, the above is NOT the words of American’s Founding Fathers.

      56. the New World Order has arrived. Witness the totally unconstitutional HR347 that makes it illegal to protest anywhere the Secret Service is present. They have suspended the First Amendment. This will be messy when obama tries to block a lawsuit going to the Supreme Court.

      57. First things first. The New World Order was created by America: it’s your baby! Second, it does exist but there is nothing to fear. What do you want? A world run by crackers with drones and corn syrup and diabetes, or a world that looks more like Switzerland?

        A better future is coming and it will be the world’s people who will decide, not Americans. Get with the programme.

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