Shock Executive Order: Obama Authorizes Behavioral Experiments On U.S. Citizens: “To Advance Government Initiatives”

by | Sep 17, 2015 | Headline News | 84 comments

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    President Obama has signed a new executive order authorizing Federal agencies to perform behavioral studies on American citizens. The studies, which will be performed without express permission from participants, are designed to advance government initiatives by “nudging” citizens toward certain behaviors and choices.

    “A growing body of evidence demonstrates that behavioral science insights — research findings from fields such as behavioral economics and psychology about how people make decisions and act on them — can be used to design government policies to better serve the American people,” reads the executive order, released on Tuesday.

    The new program is the end result of a policy proposal the White House floated in 2013 entitled “Strengthening Federal Capacity for Behavioral Insights.”

    The initiative draws on research from University of Chicago economist Richard Thaler and Harvard law school professor Cass Sunstein, who was also dubbed Obama’s regulatory czar. The two behavioral scientists argued in their 2008 book “Nudge” that government policies can be designed in a way that “nudges” citizens towards certain behaviors and choices.

    The desired choices almost always advance the goals of the federal government…

    In its 2013 memo, which was reported by Fox News at the time, the White House openly admitted that the initiative involved behavioral experimentation.

    “The federal government is currently creating a new team that will help build federal capacity to experiment with these approaches, and to scale behavioral interventions that have been rigorously evaluated, using, where possible, randomized controlled trials,” the memo read.

    Source: The Daily Caller

    Other recent Executive Orders authorize the President and Federal Government to, among other things, shut down the internet in the event of a cyber attack, as well as to seize personal stockpiles of food and other supplies during a nationally declared emergency.

    Thus, it makes complete sense that the Federal government has now given itself authorization to perform experiments on the American people.

    Such ideas used to be restricted to the realm of fringe conspiracy theory.

    Now they’re official policy.

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      1. Is this like Facebook offical now? Most couples I know have been screwing long before it’s FB official. Just saying

        • I guess it was kind of official when Obama signed the EO, but we just put this on Facebook, so it is officially official now.

          • This latest Executive order reminds me of these quotes…

            “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions.

            In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.”
            ― Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

            “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
            ― Adolf Hitler

            “How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.”
            ― Adolf Hitler

            • KY Mom, spot on with those quotes. I’m going to borrow a phrase from the title of 2 articles back. My position is, any attempt by anyone to impose such things on me will have “profoundly destructive consequences” for the evildoers concerned. I won’t go along with it regardless.

              • Old video from 1995…

                Eric Holder Admits He Wants to Brainwash Americans – Against Guns

                “What we need to do is change the way in which people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that’s not cool, that it’s not acceptable, it’s not hip to carry a gun anymore, in the way in which we’ve changed our attitudes about cigarettes. You know, when I was growing up, people smoked all the time.

                Both my parents did. But over time, we changed the way that people thought about smoking, so now we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don’t want to admit it.”

                “At the end of this clip, Holder says anti-gun ads should run every day, and we need to “really brainwash people to think about guns in a vastly different way.”

                News Busters

                  • I’ve never seen a gun owning smoker cower, EVER.

                • Tell Americans that they shouldn’t have a gun and they buy one. Tell them soon that they can’t buy one and they purchase five.

                  Collectively we have our faults but we’ve generally retained a mistrust of authority; and for good reason. Politically organizing and channeling that mistrust usefully is a very difficult endeavor. The great majority dislikes and distrusts Congress yet they re-elect their Representative.

                • wouldn’t surprise me any to hear the shooting in Sandy Hook was perpretrated by the govt to tug at everyone’s heartstrings that guns should be banned after that when you hear about 5 and 6 year olds being shot. think about this Ritalin given to young(the shooter) because he suffered from ADD, Not sure if he did just how they have been implementing this for years. Drugs mess with their developing minds, bad home life, paranoid mother, children being raised to become pop-up killers deadening any compassion for others, Govt steps in now and pushes look at the horribleness that guns create

            • Hitler and his Regime was very successful indoctrinating the Germans, and he didn’t need Big Pharma to help him out either.

              America is sadly the Medicated Nation on Earth.
              Not specifically referring to Pain/Diabetic/Asthma …..

              I’m specifically referring to Anti-Depressants/Mind Altering Drugs. I have a good friend that works at a nearby Hospital. On any given day, she says easily 9/10 people who come into the E.R. are on some sort of Psychotropic Drug!

              Sad thing is, most of these people think they need them. Most probably don’t think they could live without them.
              Everyone of them don’t know the damage that these drugs are causing to them mentally. These drugs were designed only for short term use, not long term.

              • FTW, it really is tragic. FDA and the doctors will tell these people anything get them hooked on these poisons and keep them that way.

              • Nope he just needed the Treaty of Versailles to motivate them.

                Just sayin’, whoever “wins” next might want to pay attention.

              • Having taken St. John’s Wort (a natural variant of a SSRI, and at least what you’d call “medium strength”), I can tell you what the long term effects would be.

                Every 4 months I had to stop for 2 months because it would cease to be effective. Of course… you COULD compensate by increasing the dosage…

                Yeah… don’t. ‘Cause that starts causing anxiety past a certain point (too MUCH serotonin), and then you get the vicious circle effect. You have to purge off for a while then it will work again later.

                If you increase past even that point… never happened to me but in theory, the final end result of way way too much serotonin is basically “roid rage”.

                • Avoid the Roids. ;0)

                  • Way past time to cut government spending in half, out of our lives, and government management by decree, completely.

                    Death to the New World Order. Its TOTALLY Constitutional. 🙂

              • just look at the time when ritalyn was being pushed to young kids with developing minds for add and adhd. The parents want a quick fix to control their kids behavior but what does that do years to them down the road? Could that have given us Columbine, Sandy Hook? As I was raised and don’t have a problem with discipline, my father always said a crack on their ass doesn’t hurt them just gives them a warning that certain behavior won’t be tolerated. I would never permit drugging my kids

            • “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

              • You just described the Democratic Socialists to a “T”.

              • You just described half of our current government. Democratic socialists, progressives. They are a plague.

            • “The Patriot Act will protect America.”
              –George W. Bush

              “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.”
              –Dick Cheney

              The people in charge of whichever party have been nudging us in the directions they want for over 2 centuries. The only thing they CAN agree on is keeping a third party out of the picture.
              Our gutless wonders in Congress pander to the money and tell us what we want to hear so we will shut up and do nothing.

      2. Over my dead body!

        • Iowagal

          Hopefully over theirs….not yours 😉

          what was it Patton said, don’t die for your cause, make some other poor sucker die for his 🙂 🙂

          But unfortunately they will be more than happy to oblige any of us who feel the same way. I’d say there will be plenty of those bodies to be stepping over in our future

          • True true!

      3. Isn’t this basically just a program to create more efficient false flags in order to be able to better force and control legislation with minimal damage.

        • Yesterday= Conspiracy Theorist

          Today= Conspiracy Realist

          The worst part is, both are still considered to be crazy. I was discussing this last night. How when the nsa spying was revealed, and everybody now knows the gov’t has the technology, and the will, and most likely is monitoring all of our communications. But here is the kicker…If you would have said this just 15 or 20 years ago, you were a black helicopter tin foil hat koook. So once everything went from analogue to digital, well the whole ball game changed overnight. But what didn’t change is perception. And so it seems even though people know it, they are afraid to admit it to themselves and especially to say it to anyone else. They won’t go on tv and demand it to be stopped. Because to stop it would be to identify the problem, and to do that well they would have to say…the gov’t is spying on us, they’re listening to me, shhhhhh….the walls have ears.

          And well, that sounds like a crazy person. So we will usher in 1984 just to not sound crazy by saying it’s gonna be 1984. Aint that rich!

          • Richard Head, good posts. Nothing this govt. does has any legitimate basis to it whatsoever. None of us have any obligation to go along with any of their evil shit.

            • Very good points.

              “Nothing this government does has any legitimate basis to it whatsoever.”

              If we conclude that the Federal Reserve is as much a part of the Government as say “Faceplant”, then it has no legitimacy.

              It has just proven that by the Fed not raising the interest rate by a mere .25 point. What they are actually saying here is this.

              “The figures we have been showing the public over the past three to four years, like unemployment, and economic progress, recession recovery, were all just lies. The economic outlook is so dire, that we can’t even allow for a 1/4 point rise in rates.”

              The stock markets did a knee jerk reaction to the news, because they see the same “underlying”, message, as most common sense people do.

              As i have said before, the markets will continue to do the see-sawing until some natural, unnatural, or Supernatural event causes it to crash.

              This decision by the fed will only cause the reactions by the markets to last a short while and then it will all be forgotten by the players.

              “walk right up, get your tickets for the show; we make millionaires everyday here, get you some”

              Now that I have a proven system with less risk and investment, ole passin’ will throw his marble on to the wheel soon.
              “I gotta get me some of this”.

              • Don’t forget your claim you’ve already made about some event happening in September that will be the beginning of the great unraveling, today is the 17th, you’ve got about 2 weeks left.

                • Haven’t forgotten anything, since i quit smoking grass about twenty five years ago, i have a memory like an elephant. lol

                  Stay tuned for an important update that emphasizes the coming days. (since i only have about two weeks) omg, i’m scared of the wrath of newby and others…sarc off.

                  • Aside from your pathetic attempt at a joke, the thing that’s on the line is whether or not you’re a gigantic bullshit artist, I know you love to tell big stories, you post one every other day. There seems to be nothing you’ve never done or nowhere you’ve never been, but I’m sure you’re not the kind who would ever think of posting anything but the ” gods” truth, right? Anywho, I’ll be staying tuned for your Earth shaking update, I’ll bet it’s about a Madonna tour that will somehow break open your dreaded ” seven seals”.

                  • Passin, I wouldn’t sweat about anything coming from a troll. since he’s a new one here, at least he chose the right moniker for himself. Newby troll.

                    • No the moniker is probably a big LIE too. Yes some of us over seven years old have had many experiences. I recently posted about my experience in living through an earth quake and in living for a year in Sunami territory. Without giving out my exact address and the correlating dates and all witnesses to the events. For the record, I have had my place burned down, I have had another place vandalized so badly I was not able to live in it. I’ve been attacked and beaten. So yes. I actually lived. Some people are afraid if stories like mine are acknowledged before TPTB want them to come out, it would be not so good.

              • GOD DAMN IT I wanna put my money in the f**king bank and earn 8 f**king percent interest like my father did… then just kick back in Palm Springs by the pool and watch TV.

                Go… blow someone’s sh** up or something and get us back out 8%. This 0% BS is gonna third world our asses.

                • Well…if you went to Palm Springs, you’d have to worry about radiation from fukushima. Then probably need to find water as cali is experiencing a full on out draught. Life sure is different now than it was then.

                  • I live in California and it rained cats and dogs for two days last week. Just a scam to raise the price of water. If it was really that bad, why aren’t they building more reservoirs. And why try to clamp down on people collecting rain water. It’s about$$$$$$$$$$$$.

                    They gave you certain Religious beliefs in order to cut off your balls without you realizing what happened. Unless you were there and actually heard Jesus say “turn the other cheek” consider why an Emperor or a King would prefer that you take his punching you repeatedly without fighting back. Why have you been told that the “‘bird’ does not sew”. If you can’t make your own clothes, it stands to reason that you are going to freeze in the elements, without the HELP of someone other than yourself. Every word inspired. But by whom. Think man think. You been scamed.

      4. It was my observation that the government was already creating consent and correct behavior responses. I have no complaints. I will obey.

      5. Oh hcks here boy I got a big bag of fresh insults lol.
        Anyhoo the governments around the world have had these studies in one form or another for years scary part is there getting good at it now. Everywhere you go your being recorded dump all that info into a computer and its pukes out some scary accurate info
        oh side question has anyone out there heard of or used IGMAN AMMUNITION in 243 100gr if so how did they work for ya. Got a couple boxes cheap $25 a box bit it looks like the were manufactured in a preschool by 5 year olds is this stuff at least safe to use

        • Wow almost forgot to mention this. Hunting season just started this morning 3 months open season on whitetail black bear elk mule deer wolf coyote. Picked up 2 whitetail buck and supplemental doe and black bear total cost for 3 tags $75 Canadian 3 bullets 3$ 10 minutes drive to a tree stand one trigger pull priceless lol (had to say it) waiting to see now if I get drawn for moose cow I feel so grateful to be in such an area where game is very plentiful no private land for hundreds of miles plenty of pine spruce poplar and birch fresh water. Took a long time lots of prayer and faith to get here but all worth it now.
          Keep stacking keep the faith folks be grateful for what you have and more will come your way. Everybody wish me luck in filling the freezer

          • What area of Canada are you in? I flew into Edmonton and then drove through Alberta, B.C., and the Yukon Territory a few years back. Probably the most beautiful area in the world I’ve ever seen. I would like to “Just Disappear” up in the Canadian Rockies of B.C. If only your government was more gun friendly. I was allowed to travel through with Rifles, but handguns were strictly prohibited.

            • Im in northern Alberta about 2 hours west of Edmonton. Were fairly gun friendly. Handguns are strictly forbidden to carry or use. Except on a government approved and supervised gunclub. We have 3 classes of license 1) hunting rifles shotguns 2.)restricted weapons anything semi auto 3.) Prohibited weapons all hand guns assault rifles can’t even buy an ar here closest we have to your ar-15s is a rifle made by colt Canada called the C-8/C-7. Nice looking piece but hard to order to transport say just a .22 I have to remove the bolt lock out the trigger and store ammo bolt and rifle separately in my pickup. Our game wardens are somewhat afraid of us rednecks they will usually call in an rcmp to check you out 3 wardens have gone (missing) up here in 7 years so don’t get us wrong we do defend ourselves. Alot of the guys up here are much like yourselves. Just gotta be a little sneakier. BUT PLEASE ANY OF YOU FOLKS TRAVELING HERE. Just remember the RCMP are dhs CIA FBI home land security all of it wrapped up in a single 6’4″ 250 lbs goon DO NOT FUCK WITH THEM. Any RCMP officer has jurisdiction anyplace in Canada including the territories

              • PS the BC Rockies. Id stay out of there that province is geographically one huge national park patrolled by air your better off in northern Alberta that’s truly a wild frontier. BC you’d be spotted. O wouldn’t bug out there that’s a harsh unforgiving place not many men would thrive there

      6. What do you do with a nation of willing guinea pigs, why you experiment on them until you get a totally compliant race of automatons. It’s working, a vaccine injection here, a pill there, holy smokes these people are gullible. As long as there is a profit to be made it is full steam ahead. Like clean solar energy, a no brainer for the “sunshine state” of Florida. But no, the electric utilities are pouring in big money to prevent this moving forward. Duke Energy, Florida Power and Light and other smaller greedholes have an inherent right to continue the ripoffs, so they think. I mean all those bribes paid to legislators count for something don’t they? Across the technological realm progress is an evil word to these corporations with a license to steal. The auto that went from New York to LA on 22 gallons of water. Big Oil shut it down. The many cancer treatments that actually worked. The AMA, Big Pharma and FDA shut them down. Tesla’s free energy. The criminals shut it down. You can’t win for losing in this system of all for the few and none for the masses.

      7. Obama Authorizes Behavioral Experiments On U.S. Citizens

        How about Behavioral Experiments & Mental Studies be done on our “Elected Officials” & while I’m at it, add in Daily Drug Screenings to be performed as well.

        Other recent Executive Orders authorize the President and Federal Government to, among other things, shut down the internet in the event of a cyber attack, as well as to seize personal stockpiles of food and other supplies during a nationally declared emergency.

        Well gee, if they are really that concerned about having some backlash coming our way. Here’s an idea: “Stop screwing around with other countries affairs assholes!”

        “Thus, it makes complete sense that the Federal government has now given itself authorization to perform experiments on the American people.”

        “I’m over here ‘ya big dummy, come and get me!”

        Something tells me there will be a lot of dead Agents at peoples doorsteps if this was to be implemented.

        • Not if but when, fact of the matter is that the government at ALL levels is detrimental to the people rather than beneficial,
          I just dont give a crap anymore.

          • “I just dont give a crap anymore.”

            Agreed – and if the majority of the people in this country can get on the same page with that above “said” attitude.
            Then the “cleaning” that is so drastically needed can commence.

            Will it happen??? Unfortunately, those chances of reality is highly doubtful.

            • FTW.

              One of the reasons people are so gullible and placid is that we live too long and have too many choices. We have about everything given to us on a silver platter. Many today, the hardest chore they have is driving to work or the grocery store.
              Not as much to worry about with all the advances in Tech, Medical and Transportation. Our thinking process is for pleasure and not survival. After all there is an unlimited supply of pork chops, steaks, shrimp and all the vegetables and cakes we can eat from the supermarket.
              So don’t scare people by telling them the President they elected gave the go ahead to do experiments on them.

              Hasn’t been the first time they have done it. Hahahaha!

              • “So don’t scare people by telling them the President they elected gave the go ahead to do experiments on them.”

                Oops … I’m sorry Slingshot … was that suppose to be a secret? … LOL

                Idduno – maybe not – if people are going to fall for the constant lies and deceit every 4 years coming from these politicians. Maybe they deserve everything that is coming to them.

                • FTW

                  Oh you are so right.

                  “A government they deserve”.

              • The govt has been doing “social experiments” on us for decades, they just now threw it out there in our faces. The manipulations are subtle and almost imperceptible.

                Why do you think public right-of-way sign are red, green or yellow? We all understand that the color red forbids something, while green is usually permissive. Yellow on a sign means use caution. We react to color and shapes subconsciously all the time. That is behavior modification.

                What you you think of when you see red cones on the highway? How about a curb quietly painted red or yellow without a sign for clarification?

                How about the circle-slash (⦸)? Whatever it’s on, we just assume is forbidden, and we act accordingly.

                I’m beginning to think this thing with Trump might be another experiment, to see how we’d react. I think something big will change as the result. I don’t know what, but something.

                We are again being manipulated. Bet on it.

        • FTW, DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner! Put the scum politicos on the shrink’s couch, NOT any of us average joes.

        • Time for the people to issue executive orders. Post your executive orders on the nearest tree, every tree a friendly. The tree must have a hangman’s rope smeared with tar and feathers.

          Start at the top and work your way down.

        • We might just be doing a bit of Behavioral Experiments & Mental Studies on our Elected Officials. Haven’t you seen their reaction and amazement with Donald Trumps poll numbers! He’s not one of them and they are worried sick. We should start to react the opposite of what they expect us to do! Toy with their minds for awhile!

        • The last thing we want is for government (Presidents) to be required to undergo any psychological interference(intervention). There was an attempt to put this into law fifty years ago. These people are not anything if not persistent. Don’t hate them. Learn from them. As they do, not as they say.

      8. I can only laugh at all this – and weep. Osama’s opposition talks talks talks but never does anything. Eight years of horror and not a single action to stop this tyrant. You people are frauds and loudmouths, but certainly not patriots.

        • Who the hell did you say are frauds and loudmouths? I can agree with your point about the ‘loyal opposition’ to Obama being frauds and loudmouths, but NOT the good people on this site.

        • Viking

          Hmmmmm. Frauds and Loudmouths. It would appear that way but far from it. Frustrations set in and there is plenty of venting. We are the ones that speak our minds. The real ones of importance are those that read our message/comments and absorb the information we disseminate. The true measure of our success are the numbers that read, tweet, share and like. All this information, Good or Bad, is here for others to decide what to believe. Definitely more informative than the Major News Networks.

          Why is it that those who condemn us only post one time and leave. In the past seven years you have enjoyed
          a stable life and existence in this country. Are you ready if things go south?

          • Slingshot, AMEN.

      9. It doesn’t matter to me either way. The ironic thing is that this was probably going on long before the EO was issued.

        We are all slaves, now they are just not bothering to hide that fact anymore.

        Ask yourself why. Why? Why would they brag and do things so out in the open?

        • I’ll tell you:

          Con someone. Use them. Abuse them. All the time pretending to be their friend. When you finally turn on him and wake him up, he’ll feel so stupid and ashamed that if he doesn’t go hang himself; he’ll falsely believe you are the superior, the better man or woman. Your victim becomes your lapdog or your accomplice.

          Otherwise he wants you to get so angry you attack. He can “justifiably” defend himself and injure or kill you. Or he can channel your anger into fighting another of his intended victims.

          This is psychological manipulation. Centuries of practice. Read and Learn. Don’t let them continue to use your ignorance to their advantage. “The Art of War”. Bookstores.

      10. “Strengthening Federal Capacity for Behavioral Insights”

        This is the next tool to be used in revoking gun rights of Americans. Just like the FEDS did with the social security recipients and the Veterans on disability.

        • John Stiner, I’ve been hearing from other sources they will try that. Doesn’t mean I have to go along with it. We need something to ‘strengthen the PEOPLE’S CAPACITY FOR THE BEHAVIORAL INSIGHTS OF TPTB.”

      11. Our tax system has been doing behavior modification for many many years.

      12. Isreal approves this EO. By approves, I meant mandated.

      13. FAA: Widespread ground stop for American Airlines flights

        “The Federal Aviation Administration said Thursday American Airlines flights experienced nationwide ground stops amid computer issues.”

        “A company spokesman later told Reuters that all domestic flights departing from Dallas-Fort Worth, Chicago O’Hare and Miami had been halted.”

        Computer ‘glitch’ … I suspect hacker.

        cnbc dot com

      14. This government has been doing this since the beginning, just ask an American Indian confined to a reservation. Look at how the modern welfare system is designed to keep the politicians that suppress the welfare recipients in power by throwing them table crumbs and promising them all kinds of free shit. Look at our public education system that is leaving out the fact that the constitution and bill of rights was designed to limit the power of government, not its citizens. We have come to a point where the citizens fear the power of government. It was supposed to be the other way around. As one of our wisest founding fathers stated, “When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” Thomas Jefferson. The government has conditioned us over the last couple hundred years to believe we need them for our own well being when in fact, they need us compliant so that they can maintain power.

      15. I see a sailboat in my near future… The future here looks very bleak in terms of going in the right direction.

      16. I’ve been “nudged”.
        I no longer want to tolerate
        Democrats. I’ll passive/aggressive
        watch them all die and eat my popcorn.

        • You see where our so called rep Shats wants to pay fed employees more paid leave,,,,
          Just wonderful these ass kissing party line democraps,
          I would rather starve to death or put a bullet in my head than work my ass off to pay for this shit.

      17. I mean they’ve been doing this already since basically forever. What do you think “vice taxes” are?

      18. I’ll give you an experiment Let us see how your chest responds to a 230 H.P. out of 5″ 45ACP!!!!

        • Sgt. Dale – your experiment will result into an extraordinary form of ART.

          Leonardo da Vinci would be jealous of your remarkable talent!

        • Now you’re talkin Sgt. I got a shiver down my leg thinkin bout that .45! I might have to pull out my Ruger SR 1911 and join in.

      19. They’ll spend $30 million and in the end just continue the Josef Goebbels strategy, “If a lie is told loud enough and often enough it becomes the truth in peoples minds”. Who needs a study when you have this guy and George Orwell as guides.

        • Josef Goebbels strategy

          The Strategy is very much alive in today’s World.
          It’s called MainStream Media!

          Anybody can choose their desired poison.


      20. Sieg heil, assholes.

      21. Psychiatry, psychology, behaviorism, the mental “health” movement in general—took over from the Catholic Inquisition and the Protestant witch trials and witch hunts the role of justifying persecution of individuals. Today an appeal to alleged (bogus) “medicine” is the excuse. Notice that exactly as in the Inquisition and the witch hunts, those deemed “qualified” to make accusations were held to themselves be “immune” from committing heresy or from having “familiar spirits.” So while “mental illness is like any other illness,” notice that psychiatric types and their subsidiaries just can’t ever have any mental “illness,” it’s likely that they see REAL doctors for such actual medical issues as dental, cardiac, digestive, vision et cetera.

      22. We should fight to save our way of life before it gets dumped into the toilet.

        Oops. Too late.

        We should fight to save our way of life before it gets FLUSHED down the toilet.

        Oops. Too late.

        We should fight to save our way of life before it makes its way to the sewerage treatment plant.

        Oops. Too late.

        We should fight to save our way of life before it is purified and recycled and becomes changed into something else that only SEEMS to be what it should be but most definitely is not good for us.

        Oops. Too late.

        We should fight to save our way of life before it is placed in our water supply and we drink it and become affected by it.

        Oops. Too late.


        Oops, too late?

        Are we preparing for what is coming or are we preparing for what has already happened and cannot be changed? Where in the above sequence might we be? Where in the above sequence would the point of no return be?

        I cannot say. Can you?

      23. I don’t care what Slappy and his minions have in mind, I’ve got something else in mind, and they can all go and shove it.

      24. It’s an ongoing process. Keep going. Don’t quit. Become as knowledgeable and self reliant as possible. Do more every day. Never surrender. TPTB are getting into their paranoid psychotic delusions. They’re out to get us (psychologically). Take it in stride. At least they think you’re worth messing with. Ignore them. They for the most part are so weak, if they didn’t have each other to blow up the other’s backside; they might actually do something meaningful. Instead of using every waking moment finding ways to hurt your delicate psyche.

      25. Okay, here is a serious question that I have NEVER seen addressed in depth in any ‘prep’ type blog, article, or publication:

        If you could scrape up a nest egg…. sell your house and vehicle, cash in your retirement account, whatever… sever your ties to this country, and head out to a place that offers more freedom and less surveillance now –and a better chance for survival if/when there is a global economic collapse (or worse) — WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO RELOCATE?

        I am sure that many places would be fine for those who are 26 year old mesomorphs in the peak of good health with extensive martial arts training and advanced survival skills. (Virtually all the prep/survival manuals seem to take it for granted that OF COURSE all of their readers possess all of these qualifications.)

        But what if you’re over 55, maybe have a few health issues (relatively minor, but still a consideration), not a big rugged guy that can kill wolves with his teeth, but just kind of an average fellow? What then?

        I’ve read about ex-pats who think that Central America or certain countries in South America are the answer, but they make me nervous. I don’t have a knack for picking up a foreign language; crime and corruption are rampant in many (if not all) of these countries, and anyone from the States is going to be a tempting target even in the best of times. If/when things get much worse, do you really want to be perceived as the “rich gringo” (regardless of what you actually have) by thousands of desperate people in your neighborhood? Who will receive sympathy and protection, should these people attack you? Will the police come down hard on their starving friends and relatives, or turn a blind eye to whatever happens to the “rich” foreigner?

        All the other English-speaking countries are even more anti-gun than this one, and are trying to catch up fast to us on surveillance. Canada, Australian, etc are very Statist with a long-standing mindset that the people are subjects, mere cattle to be kept in line. I would feel more at home with the language and overall culture, but the heavy hand of government would negate any possible benefit of making a big move like this.

        Europe has cultural attractions, but is very expensive; again, there is the language issue; many of the people there loathe Americans; strict government control is a way of life; and it’s been the battleground for two World Wars. Plus, now it’s being overrun by a flood of refugees, many of whom are hostile to Western civilization.

        If I could find a place that offered a very real upgrade in freedom from government now, and a better chance of riding things out during a long-term crisis, I would very seriously consider making the jump. But I can’t think of anyplace on earth that really stands out as a clear choice. I would love to hear opinions as to what might meet these criteria. Thanks, folks ~ ~ ~

        • I just found this answer. I was looking through Alex Jones documentaries and films on his YouTube page and found one called strategic relocation. I watched it and the guy has a lot of logics points and insights. It is basically an infomercial for the book, but has a lot of info. I’m waiting for it in the mail. He also has other vids on aj YouTube page I’m going to check out. Joel skousen is his name.

      26. If I had decided on a location, I would not post it on this spying gathering apparatus. The PTB do not need to know.

        If you sold everything, you could afford to buy a small ship. Vacation where ever you choose. Avoid crowds during a pandemic. Take in the sun and live on your own terms. Also makes for a great attraction for the opposit sex when the need arises.

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