Report: It’s YOUR Fault: Fed Says Americans Who “Hoard Money” Are To Blame For Poor Economy

by | Sep 6, 2014 | Headline News | 279 comments

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    Despite arguments to the contrary from the Obama administration, mounting evidence suggests that the U.S. economy is rapidly falling back into negative growth territory. More Americans are out of the workforce than ever before, median household incomes are at levels not seen since 1967, and consumer spending is coming to a veritable standstill. The crisis is apparently so significant that a Federal Reserve governor recently said U.S. policymakers are crafting regulations that will force bank depositors to cover any losses should their financial institutions fail.

    The question that many are asking is, how did this happen? How, after six years of recovery efforts and trillions of dollars printed, is it possible that the economy is not booming again?

    This week the Federal Reserve published a report that claims to have figured it out and it turns out that the renewed economic downturn has nothing to do with foreign outsourcing, high taxation, increased health care costs for business or rising consumer prices for food and energy.

    No, according to the Fed it is your fault. Apparently, you are not spending enough money. In order for the economy to recover you need to stop hoarding cash now and get out there and start buying more homes, cars, vacations, and electronics. Otherwise, you’ll only have yourself to blame when the system comes unhinged.

    From the St. Louis Federal Reserve:

    The issue has to do with the velocity of money, which has never been constant, as can be seen in the figure below . If for some reason the money velocity declines rapidly during an expansionary monetary policy period, it can offset the increase in money supply and even lead to deflation instead of inflation.

    During the first and second quarters of 2014, the velocity of the monetary base2 was at 4.4, its slowest pace on record. This means that every dollar in the monetary base was spent only 4.4 times in the economy during the past year, down from 17.2 just prior to the recession. This implies that the unprecedented monetary base increase driven by the Fed’s large money injections through its large-scale asset purchase programs has failed to cause at least a one-for-one proportional increase in nominal GDP. Thus, it is precisely the sharp decline in velocity that has offset the sharp increase in money supply, leading to the almost no change in nominal GDP

    So why did the monetary base increase not cause a proportionate increase in either the general price level or GDP?

    The answer lies in the private sector’s dramatic increase in their willingness to hoard money instead of spend it. Such an unprecedented increase in money demand has slowed down the velocity of money

    Top tier economists, it seems, are unable grasp why consumers have decided to hoard – in other words, save – their money even though the central bank is engaged in an unprecedented monetary expansion.

    The answer is simple, really, and you don’t need to look at detailed government charts and statistics to figure it out.

    American consumers have been absolutely pummeled over the last decade.

    We are losing so many jobs that newly created minimum wage jobs touted by the Obama administration aren’t even making a dent.

    Moreover, the price of food, electricity, gas and other essentials have risen so sharply that we’re paying nearly double for those items today than we did a decade ago.

    And, as recently noted by The Economic Collapse Blog, over 77 million Americans currently have debt collection accounts and 25% of Americans have absolutely no emergency cash whatsoever.

    It’s not so much that Americans are “hoarding” money, a phrase that suggests greedy people all over the country are stacking piles of cash under their mattresses. It’s that most Americans don’t have any money left to spend.

    The Daily Bell says that the Federal Reserve and the U.S. government are now creating a new narrative to be spewed by their mainstream media propaganda arms, wherein the blame for this will fall squarely on the American people:

    Sometimes Federal Reserve white papers attract attention and this one does because of the term “hoarding money.” This is a startling phrase and – who knows – perhaps it marks the beginning of a new meme.

    Certainly the word “hoarding” is a popular one with government officials. When governments are uncomfortable with the actions of citizens for whatever reason, the term “hoarding” is often applied to stigmatize certain behaviors and encourage others. 

    This isn’t the first time government officials and their quasi-government counterparts have targeted “hoarders” as evil doers. They have done it before and the evidence suggests they are going to do it again as soon as the right crisis takes hold.

    In 2012 President Obama signed a an Executive Doomsday Order that was designed specifically to target “hoarders” during a national emergency:

    While millions of people have been preparing for the possibility of a catastrophic event by relocating to rural homesteads or farms, as well as stockpiling food, water, personal defense armaments and other essential supplies with the intention of utilizing these preparations if the worst happens, the latest executive order signed by President Obama on March 16, 2012 makes clear that in the event of a nationally deemed emergency all of these resources will fall under the authority of the United States government. 

    The signing of the National Defense Resources Preparedness executive order grants the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Labor, the Department of Defense and other agencies complete control of all US resources, including the ability to seize, confiscate or re-delegate resources, materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense as delegated by the following agencies

    But what is hoarding? According to David Spero of Code Green Prep, it’s whatever they say it is. Right now, tens of millions of Americans are unable to put food on the table or pay their most basic expenses, yet the Federal Reserve claims that we’re hoarding money. In an emergency, they’ll make similar claims.

    Hoarding of Just About Anything Can Be Banned

    These definitions are written in to the 1950 War and National Defense Defense (sic) Production Act, and so let’s see what the act itself has to say for itself.

    Go directly to section 2072.  That’s the key part from our perspective.

    §2072. Hoarding of designated scarce materials

    In order to prevent hoarding, no person shall accumulate (1) in excess of the reasonable demands of business, personal, or home consumption, or (2) for the purpose of resale at prices in excess of prevailing market prices, materials which have been designated by the President asscarce materials or materials the supply of which would be threatened by such accumulation. The President shall order published in the Federal Register, and in such other manner as he may deem appropriate, every designation of materials the accumulation of which is unlawful and any withdrawal of such designation.

    So the President can simply say that anything more than (for example) a week’s supply of food (and all the other things listed) is an amount ‘in excess of the reasonable demands of personal consumption’ and then order the Army to impound everything you have in excess of that amount.

    Now, as we face a crisis in America on a scale never before seen, the government is attempting to change the story. In the end, when the worst of it hits and people start rioting in the streets because they can’t afford food or shelter, they’ll turn the blame on the “hoarders” who have selfishly saved cash and precious metals, stored long-term foods for an emergency, and prepared to deal with the very situation the politicians, central bankers and business elite have created.

    Once the meme is pushed in earnest across the media networks, it will only be a matter of time before the crowds turn their attention to those greedy hoarders who ’caused this crisis in the first place.’

    Those who hoard resources illegally will have their supplies seized and will likely be detained for actions akin to terrorism, while those who see something and say something will be rewarded with a cut of the booty.

    This may sound outlandish, until you consider that this is how all tyrants and authoritarian governments have operated since the beginning of human civilization.

    Hoarders beware. They’ll be coming for you.


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      1. I used to have money… except that Obama crony Jonny-Boy Corzini took it all

        • 1. There is no real “money” in circulation today any where in the world, only fiat paper representing debt.

          2. The only people that can afford to hoard these “Federal Reserve Tokens” are those your government are printing it for: the international bankers.

          • Their idea of hoarding money is if you have a credit score over 600 and you are not in debt over your ears then you are hoarding.

            • LMAO!!! Great photo Mac! I’m thinking that is a picture of your bed!!! 🙂

              “So why did the monetary base increase not cause a proportionate increase in either the general price level or GDP?”

              Because the bulk of this money, probably more than 80% has gone to the Member Banks of the FED to REPLACE their losses and shore up their balance sheets. QE has been, PRIMARILY, an extension of the 2008/2009 Bank Bailout.

              BTW, contrary to O’Bummer’s Executive Order, didn’t he just recently proclaim September, “National Preparedness Month?”

              Not only is this SOB a Marxist, Muslim, and Faggot, he is also a Prepper!!! Is NOTHING sacred??? LMAO!!! 🙂

              • DK, had that been my bed, a good chunk of that cash would’ve already been spent on preps. The federal propaganda always makes me sick. Also, last time I checked, EVERY month is a preparedness month for preppers. It always has been for me as long as I’ve been prepping.

                • New Banking Regulations FORCE Banks To Buy BILLIONS Of Treasury Securities

                  To Avoid Another Crash, Banks FORCED To Buy Treasury Securities

                  Read more:

                  “Bank regulators are now forcing financial institutions to hold more Treasury securities in an effort to ensure cash solvency in the event of another financial crisis, the Washington Examiner reports.

                  The reason given for why banks must now hold an additional $100 billion dollars of liquid assets is because these securities can easily be exchanged into cash at any time. Treasury securities are the top category for qualifying as liquid assets, although banks can fulfill the requirement through stocks, as well.”

                  The Daily Caller

                  • KY, Ya and I have also read they want to take everybody’s 401K and convert them to treasury bonds. If you have a 401K and don’t get out now, yer gonna be foooked!

                  • Who’s the wise guy that hacked my photbucket account and relesed the picture of my bed??? Aw well, ……

                  • The real problem isn’t money. It’s those selfish employers who are hoarding all the jobs.
                    And the ‘velocity of money’? I’ve see glaciers move faster than our present economy. And that was before global warming.

                  • Forcing banks? The same banks that knowingly made fraudulent loans? The same banks who profited from bundling and misrepresenting? Poor banks are being forced to solve a problem they contributed to in a huge way? It’s also part of the fed system and banks cry but actually need to play ball. If they don’t it all crashes and banks are the first to go. Don’t feel a bit sorry for banks.
                    Everyone is tapped out and not hoarding. The only people with money (as a group) the ultra wealthy are hoarding cash. Why? Rates are going up, the markets (housing and stock) are tubing. Get money at 2.9 percent and invest at 10 in a short time. Pocket the spread.

                  • durango kidd says:

                    “Because the bulk of this money, probably more than 80% has gone to the Member Banks of the FED to REPLACE their losses and shore up their balance sheets. QE has been, PRIMARILY, an extension of the 2008/2009 Bank Bailout.”


                    Dallas FED President Richard Fisher has admitted the real intention of QE. He has admitted that the FEDs objective all along was to levitate the price of financial assets and thereby confer massive windfall gains on the wealthy who own most of them. All this was done in pursuit of some whacked-out, Keynesian version of “trickle down” economics, which according to the FED, was for the GOOD of the average American.

                    The Keynesian debt trick is over! The credit expansion pipeline of monetary transmission needs to come to an end!! What we have going on today is the “Wall Street Bubble Pipeline”. And it’s nothing short of a criminal curse on a free society. It does nothing more than provide free short-term credit for the 1% and devastating crashes for Main Street when the central bank fueled financial bubbles inevitably crash.

                    QE is NOT about replacing “Member Bank” losses, or shoring up their balance sheets!!!

                    QE was designed and implemented to levitate the price of financial assets and thereby confer massive windfall gains on the wealthy who own most of them.

                    As an establishment stooge, the durango kidd will always attempt to conceal the truth from the peasants. It seems to be his job.

                  • YMWW: And you BELIEVE the FED??? LMAO!!! 🙂

                    Do you think they would tell you the truth? Do you think they would tell the American People that the Great Bank Bailout has continued UNABATED for six years?

                    Follow the money dimwit. If you understood the FED at all you would understand how the printed money was allocated, and what the INTENDED result would be.

                    While QE has elevated financial assets, that is a by product of their action. The PRIMARY intent was to protect the Member Banks. Watch what they do, not what they say.

                    They are liars, cheats, thieves, and hypocrites. And you? You are a dimwitted sheeple that believes the FED!!! 🙂

                  • Is that the best you can do DK? Name calling and ad hominem attacks.

                  • The durango kidd says:

                    “They are liars, cheats, thieves, and hypocrites.”

                    And yet you’re on record supporting Central Banking aka, The FED!

                    Attaboy DK. Keep up the brilliant analysis and commentary.

                • Every once in a while I like to throw my money on the bed, jump on top of it and roll around in it some. Sometimes the quarter falls off and I have to get a flashlight and look for it. Bummer.

                  • If nothing else, you can use it to wipe or as fire stater…

                  • Ine, got a bunch of wooden nickles someone once gave me. Said they were extremely valuable. I’ll use them to start my fire if it comes down to it.

                  • The old man lived in the Wooley Swamp, way back in Booger Woods……

                    They all thought he acted funny…….

                    All he cared about was his “money”…….

                    He’d stuff it all
                    down in mason jars and he’d bury it all around.

                    And on certain nights if the moon was right he’d dig it up out of the ground. He’d pour it all out on the
                    Floor of his shack and run his fingers through it…….

                    Yeah, Lucius Clay was a “greedy” old
                    man and that’s all that there was to it.

                  • lol Po’d…I’m gonna steal that to put with all the other jokes I steal.

                  • Lol. Yeah, either that or it sticks to you and you lose it until it falls off later….

                  • yup

              • Hey there, DK! Yes, it is ‘National Preparedness Month.’
                And for those of you who haven’t filled up your day planner yet, this month is also-

                *National Cat Appreciation Month (I got extra barbecue sauce just in case the neighbors drop by to celebrate with us. Hope they don’t bring their old tabby, she looks like she’d be tough and stringy))

                *National Periscope Week is Sept 10th thru the 16th. My uncle, a retired sub commander, said he’d never heard of it. I told him to check it out. He said, “Periscope week, huh? I’ll look into it.” (the smartass gene apparently runs in the family)

                *Sept 22nd is World Paperless Day. We’re all supposed to do everything electronically that day and try to use no paper at all. I think some tree-hugging group is behind this one. Never was much of an en-vye-roe-menatlist myself. Still, I’ll try to go along. I got about a hundred post-it notes all over the house to remind me about it.

                *Sept 24th thru the 30th is our annual “September Nights’ celebration at the okie compound. Though it’s not well known nationally, it does have quite a following around home. We get all the friends and neighbors together each night for a cook-out, some back yard guitar picking and maybe even pass around a jar of home made adult beverage of some sort. Not sure what the actual contents of the jar is… but it works good for starting old chainsaws and loosening rusty bolts and such. It’s also a great alternative tractor fuel, but way too expensive to use for that.
                September Nights week is capped off by our annual ‘Debt Free’ celebration. After dark, everybody whose house or farm is paid for, gathers around a huge effigy of a banker and we set fire to it. (after target practice) It’s quite a sight watching him go up in flames. Kinda like Burning Man, only smaller. And the women keep their clothes on.

                Happy September everyone! And don’t forget National Multi-Cultural Awareness Day on the 19th. Do something nice for someone who’s different. (I’m giving Juan an extra dollar when he mows the yard)

                • Hey, SmokingOkie, as a ten-burn Burning Man veteran, I can tell you that the human female is hardwired to want to show off her birthday suit. Give women a safe venue to git nekked and they will show up by the thousands to gleefully do just that. Gives you a warm fuzzy feeling to be a member of humanity to see all that glorious beauty in one place. I like your idea of burning a banker in effigy every year, but around these parts we would have to wait until fire season is over, but by then it’s too cold for much bare skin anyway.

                • Howdy, SmokinOkie, good to hear from you. Sounds like a mighty fine tradition you have from Sept. 24-30. I like that ‘debt free’ celebration you mentioned. You wouldn’t be giving other people some ideas, would you?

                  • sshhhh…it’s a secret. 🙂

                • PO’d,you mention wooden nickels,others mention using cash as a toilet wipe,DO NOT,REPEAT,DO NOT do that with wooden nickels,just think splinters!

              • How much would it cost we slaves to deport the WDC CORP and the “Federal Reserve?” For good measure, how “much” would it cost to deport Obama on a dingy with no oars?

            • So I am to blame for our crAppy economy,me? A guy just trying to make ends meet, no discretionary spending, seeing his hard earned money losing purchasing power thanks to govt created inflation? Up what I say to these so called best and brightest? F— you!

            • Ain’t dat duh troof, Rick.

            • One thing the Fed’s argument fails to make clear is that the reason that velocity has slowed so much is that velocity is measured on the entire monetary base. Much of the newly created money is parked on bank’s balance sheets so that they appear somewhat solvent on paper. If you exclude these funds velocity is much more in line with normal. But this fact doesn’t fit the Fed’s narrative that its hoarders causing the economy to tank. Read history- In 1933 the Fed blamed “hoarding gold” for the depression and got FDR to confiscate the gold. This may be a precursor to confiscating all cash to ring in the cashless society that is the fascist central banker’s dream come true.

              • In addition to putting idle retirement accounts “to good use”. All of these financial,machinations are simply theft. Anyone notice that not a single politician with national coverage has ever mentioned that? Could it be because these masters of the universe believe it all belongs to them? Could it be that these people care only about themselves and their appetite for power at any cost? Could it be that there is true evil in the world, even if you don’t care to admit that simple fact? ISIS is just doing what some of our own “leaders” would like to do to our citizens, if only they had the balls to do it. There are two side in this conflict, us and them. Them being anyone in power or a stooge of,those in power (any gov employee or contractor.) that they don’t realize it isn’t our problem, what havoc they cause, what wealth they steal, what crises they “manage”. The government has been the bane of the unconnected’s existence for 200 years. Has anything but gov machinations been the root cause of all financial,ills for the commoners?

          • What’s really going on, is that the charts that measure The “Velocity of Money” is at an all time low. Meaning there is little exchange of actual cash from person to person in the market place anymore.

            Anybody who has studied Economics, knows that the faster money changes hands over and over in an economy, the better the economy and the better people lives are. That’s a FACT!

            This Government claim that somehow everybody is not spending money so they claim or blaming on Hording??? Here is a clue, Nobody (99%) has any money, and those who do (1%) already got everything they want or need and 2 to 3 extras or everything. The entire Economic system is rigged. They win we lose. Everytime!

            As 47.5 Million Americans are on food stamps, up from 31 Million in 2008. Is the Government trying to claim that people are hording money instead of spending it on Food? That is a very wild ignorant claim if I ever heard of one.

            Here is the Reality Check. Since the Government (Out of their own incompetence and greed)has blown nearly $7 trillion dollars on 2 Illegal Fraudulent Wars in the last 13 yrs, Bombing then rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan, instead of investing in infrastructure programs and projects here in America for our people, they also creating tax incentives on the back end, to export American Jobs overseas, which destroyed our entire Food Chain of workers from Commodities mining up the chain to manufacturing, to retail sales. No Jobs/Worky-No Money under the mattress Jackasses!! My income had dropped 75.7% in 8 years, since 2006. As I just witnessed and finished shredding up those older tax returns. (Since you only need to keep the last 7 yrs in case of an audit.)

            I say lets get started with the Town Square Hangings of these lying bastard Government scoundrels. And here is their Options at Trial before we hang them. Either you Confess to your crimes, or we hang you automatically. Spill the beans, and on every other thief you know in any government position. There is a New Sheriff in town, Buford T. Justice and we ain’t taking this shit any longer. You got that Bandit!! This here is Evidence of a crime. Let er’ Rip!!!

        • Of course they are going to blame anyone but themselves.
          This is their version of ‘after an internal investigation we have found no wrondoing’ that police departments are so fond of.
          Forget that they have done EVERYTHING YOU SHOULDN’T DO to strengthen the economy, instead, blame the people who don’t have any money to begin with. Just goes to show how INEPT the idiots at the helm are.
          The gospel truth of the matter is that the opposite has occurred. People NO LONGER have cash on hand – if they did it would be pumped into the economy. People will ALWAYS buy things they shouldn’t or don’t really need if the cash is on hand, regardless of what is going on in the world. I call out the people who wrote that report for what they are – DAMN FOOLS.

          • The Money Printers, Banksters, wallstreeters and Mega Corporations have all the Money. The Game of Monopoly has ended. They won we lost.

            So like in any game, rip up the board and we all start from scratch again. 99% are at scratch and waiting for the 1% to show up so we can get started on a new game. Called Hang the Tyrants!!! This is where we hang the tyrants and play pinata beating the crap out of them till they spill the goodies.

          • We know what the queen of the beee-autches, ole medusa~~~~~~scratch~~that, i meant.. billery, thinks….

            “Whut does it matter”!

            Somcbody told a boo boo. Now she needs a leg striping.
            Anybody got a keen hickory switch, or a saw briar?

        • kinda hard to hoard what you don’t have!! lots and lots of people are paycheck to paycheck, they have none to hoard!!

          • They know who IS hoarding. They are keeping track of our purchases of Mountain House, buckets of wheat, rice, beans, ammo, etc. They know because they track our credit card transactions, our UPS deliveries, and our grocery store purchases (remember those preferred customer discount cards. What do you suppose they do with that info?)

            When the SHTF, they can publish lists of the hoarders and the amounts of each item they claim we are hoarding. They WANT riots and people attacking other people. Remember, Agenda 21 requires that the population of the earth should be reduced to 500 million. Easier for them to get us to kill each other than for them to kill 6 1/2 billion people. The Nazi gas chambers killed only about 1/1,000 of that. To kill that many people they either need to do something to make the earth uninhabitable, (which means it would uninhabitable for THEM) or get US to do the dirty work.

            I firmly believe that they will publish lists of accused hoarders. Probably tax what they allege people have stored, then publish a list of people who didn’t pay the tax and the amount of their “tax,” (“100 pounds of wheat, one case of powdered milk, two barrels of apples, etc.”) Again — easier to publish the list than try to take it themselves.

            • They can’t track what I buy. Cash only, no UPS deliveries of supplies, and I don’t have a store card in my name. When I get groceries, sometimes I use the card, which is in someone else’s name, sometimes I borrow the card from the next person in line, and sometimes the checker has one she scans for me. Plus I loan my card to others in line, so the computers have no idea what a lot of people buy at my local supermarket.

              Everyone around me “knows” I am broke and don’t have anything at all except my record collection and computer.

              PS: I’d love to have that bed in the photo above.

              • Archivist, same here. Braveheart uses cash only for his transactions wherever possible. No credit card for Braveheart, ever!

                • No store care for me either. The small stores in our small town don’t have them. But they know what I buy on online. There is no place to shop where I live except the small independently owned grocery, drug, and hardware stores.

                  I don’t know how to buy from Amazon, The Ready Store, Augason Farms, etc. without leaving a trail. The only thing that might save me is that about 35% of this residents of this community are Mormon, so probably there are going to be lots of people on their list.

                  • That’s an ideal situation. We live in a very poor area, and our “standard” income is considered wealthy around here. We quit talking about prepping about two years ago, and my biggest fear is my nine-year-old grand-daughter who cannot keep her mouth shut about anything. We are also “older” and people consider our gardening and orchard tending to be “eccentric”, if not totally demented. Why on earth they think that way instead of doing it themselves is beyond me. The quality and quantity of food would help them greatly. I hate where we live, but it had the most to offer within the limits of what we could afford. Smokin’ Okie, we want to come to your party!

                • Braveheart has no Credit cards cause his credit is probably shot. Many people live off cash or food stamps and not by choice. Back when,… Grocery stores refuse to accept credit cards for food purchases. Until they figured out the average ticket for cash sales was about only $35 and those who uned a credit carf aversge grocery purchase was about $70 nearly double the sale purchase amount. You see it costs big chain stores more to accept cash than credit cards. Sure there is a small fee of about 1.7% fee from credit card processord but that is direct deposit. The cost to handle cash is greatet. You have to pay for security, man hours to count cash, store it un a safe, days to get credit since the Brinks Truck has to come get it and drive it to the bank. There is not much advantage to accept cash, as transactions from the register are documentedand sales tax is applied, it is hard to hide it off the books to avoid taxes. So there is more to this move to a Cashless society and why employers require direct deposit of your paychecks. It cost lots of miney to write payroll checks and process them. Other than it allows an employer a few extra days holding the payroll asset before the check is redeemed. Don’t get me started on the bank thieves wo charge a bank check cashing fee to cash a check drawn on their own bank. That is skimmig off of peoples labor. I hate bankstets.

                  • Anonymous, I don’t have any credit cards because I don’t want or need them. I use cash for most of my transactions and only keep enough in the bank to pay 2 particular bills every month. If I had credit card debt, I couldn’t do much in the way of prepping. I do just fine without any credit cards. The rest of your post I agree with.

                • I usually use cash but do purchase off of net with debit card,including good deals on ammo/camping equipment ect.The day they start coming for that tis already the day everyone stops being reasonable so really doesn’t matter.I could see the powers that try to be grabbing food warehouses/ammo warehouses things of that nature,but a nationwide home grab,might be tried to test compliance,believe that would be it though!

                  • Warchild, I’m the same way but I do as little online shopping as possible. Online shopping does carry its own risks.

              • Archivist: If that record collection includes “Transfusion” you may have to auction the record through Sotheby’s and give the proceeds to the poor.

                Just saying. 🙂

                • Transfusion? By Nervous Norvous? Used to have to play that on the oldies show back when I was an nationally unknown DJ. My ears have never forgiven me. One day, I had to play that, and “Please Mr. Custer” in the same hour. I was stone deaf for the next 5 days…. ouch!

                  • “Look at ’em out there, running around like a bunch of wild Indians.”

                • Of course I have “Transfusion” along with almost every other novelty record issued in 100+ years.

                  “Slip the blood to me, Bud.”

                  I have almost every record that charted back to the 1940s. I also have almost every record that would have charted if there had been charts back to 1890, according to Joel Whitburn’s book, “Pop Memories, 1890-1954.” This also includes charted country records back to the 1940s and thousands more back to the first country records in 1922. I also have r&b and blues back to an original copy of the first official blues record, “Crazy Blues” by Mamie Smith from 1920. My jazz records go back to Jim Europe in around 1914. I have cylinders, single-sided and two-sided 78s, 45s, LPs, 8-tracks, cassettes, reel-to-reels, CDs, and MP3 files. I was making MP3 type files before most people had heard of the format, back when it was MP2. The first song I copied from an LP and digitized in MP2 format was “Detour” by Duane Eddy back in 1998.

                  As far as types of records, I’ve got everything from Irish music and circus music all the way to belly dancing music. I have almost every Mantovani album and most of the 101 Strings albums. I also have a large collection of gospel albums, Statesmen, Happy Goodman Family, Chuck Wagon Gang, etc.

                  I may never get to listen to all of them, but I will always have a good choice.

                  • Your collection sounds amazing. As long as you have power, the culture will continue to flourish. (No rap, please!)

            • We’ll see how that all works out for them.

              “don’t go down without one helluva fight”

        • Classic blame the victim used by bullies, rapists, and other scum everywhere since the beginning of human existence.

          • PRECISELY on target, FP !!!

            The Jew (bankster) cries out in pain as he strikes you!

            • John Q. Public: Thats an Old Polish “Proverb”! My polish grandma barley spoke any broken english. But After always reminding me of that very statement you posted of “The Jew crys out in pain as he slaps Your face!” She’d sometimes give me $2.00 in two dollar bills to use for gas and beer cash when I was 15 to 16 yrs old.

              Her best ever broken english she’d speak while she held onto those two dollar bills, so tight I could not retrieve it away from her fingers grip untill I promiced to Obey her command of “Them Guys! Dont trust da banks!” shed go back to speak polish and force me to swear to Christ and all thats holy that I under no circumstances am going to deposit those two dollars into any banks! “Don’t trust!” and repeat over and over, “NO Banks! NO banks”!

              She had 12 brothers and sisters and besides her only one brother ever made it to america, as the others were “Disapeared” by the jewish bolshevik kommies etc..

              She hated all banks! She knew banking was a jewish run swindle.

              ps: that two dollars I was able to pitch in with three more pals, one had a car, between all four of us guys we could fill an entire gas tank, and buy a full case of Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer sold in short bottles with the twist off cap!…$8.00 Total equaled a full gas tank to last all nite and most of next days partying, plus a six pack each for all four guys!

              Good ol’ grandma taught me right eh…never trust banks nor jewry.

              • John Q Pub and Them Guys. So that is where today’s Cops learned this play acting, and must have been trained in Israel since they too like to Play for their dash cam video yelling stop resisting as they beat the shit out of you for their pleasure. I can’t understand if you are standing there with your hands behind your back, they still enjoy trowing you on the ground put a knee in your neck and hog tie you like the rodeo. Then High Five each other. They all need an ass wooping who does that.

                • I watch the show cops sometimes and I have a hard tome figuring out what the supect did to get the cops attention

              • We are very lucky, Them Guys. My Hungarian grandmother (who also spoke Polish, Russian, and German) was similarly wise and kind.

                You have clear vision, WhoWuddaThunkit!

        • Typical response from The Fed who back fractional reserve banking which is a Ponzi Scheme to the max. So in order to keep the system from collapsing The Fed is warning you and everyone else to not save and spend…spend…spend even when the average American is finding it tougher to make ends me because of a lack of good jobs and now Obamacare.

          And if you don’t follow orders The Fed will create INFLATION and make your money worthless. Evil bastards they are, ruining people’s lives for their own wealth, power and control.

          But don’t worry because the good guys at the IMF want to create a Global SDR Basket Currency. I can’t wait for that. /sarc

          • Their goal is to bankrupt us so they can steal all of our assets. Homes and property. OK Mr “EMP” show up any time you like. I am ready to Let er Rip!!

          • Did you know that the Federal Reserve turns over it’s entire annual profit to the U.S. Treasury every year?

        • I was wondering, where’s eppe when we need a laugh?

          Joke Of The Day-

          The bartender says “Sorry, we don’t serve time travelers here.”
          A time traveler walks into a bar.

          • Having a bed like the one in the picture is what I need to entice the little lady for our annual nookie sessions.

          • Smokie,Eppe was attending”Shootapaloza”this weekend,not sure if some high level competition or a bunch of rednecks bringing over their recyclables for targets in backyard,perhaps sponsored by Federal?!Anyhow,while none of us can fill his shoes in the humor corner will post a old classic to get ya’s by:

            Yesterday I was buying 2 large bags of Purina dog chow at WalMart for my dogs Shadow and Lady.

            I was about to check out when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog.

            What did she think, that I had an elephant?

            Since I had little else to do, on impulse, I told her that No, I didn’t have a dog – that I was starting the Purina Diet again, although I probably shouldn’t because I ended up in the hospital last time.
            On the bright side though, I’d lost 50 pounds before I awakened in intensive care with tubes coming out of every hole in my body and IVs in both arms.

            I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that it works is to load your pockets with Purina nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry and that the food is nutritionally complete so I was going to try it again.
            (I have to mention here that practically everyone in the line was enthralled with my story by now.)

            Horrified, She asked : “Did you end up in intensive care because the dog food had poisoned you?”

            I said: No not at all; I had stopped in the middle of the parking lot to lick a poddles ass and a car hit me.

            The guy behind her was laughing so hard, I thought he was going to have a heart attack!

            • Good one War, in moderation now. We had a ball…

          • Smokin: Had an event called ‘Shoot-a-palooza’ at my compound yesterday. Had 40+ people attend between 10am and 3:30 pm. Close to 50 guns of all flavors. Taught 5 year olds to older who have never shot a gun before, gun safety, respect of guns, and everyone got to shoot each others guns at a multitude of targets, even skeet shooting. WE HAD A FRICKING BALL…
            This was the 5th event in six years, so a tradition is established. Never seen so many smiling faces on kids. Everyone wants to come to the next one, so next year I might make it an all day event, do a pig in the ground, bring side dish kind of thing. Working on posting some videos taken, just takes time to get it all set up. And the best part, no one got hurt. Of course I had everyone sign a document that released me and my property from anything that goes wrong. Of course the neighbors thought WW3 had started, but some even came by to shoot. And this one was the best ever, I estimate some 5000 rounds were shot in 5.5 hours. Yes, it was a waste of ammo in a way, but as a survivalist, we taught the next wave of preppers some important skills concerning guns and shooting….

          • The Country Doctor:
            An old country doctor hurried way out to
            the boondocks to deliver a baby. It was
            so far out, there was no electricity. When the doctor arrived, no one was home except for the laboring mother and her 5-year-old child.

            The doctor instructed the child to hold a lantern high so he could see, while he helped the woman deliver the baby.

            The child did so.

            The mother pushed and after a little
            while, the doctor lifted the newborn
            baby by the feet and spanked him
            on the bottom to get him to take his
            first breath.

            The doctor then asked the 5-year-old
            what he thought of the baby.
            The little boy responded: “He shouldn’t
            have crawled in there in the first place.
            Spank him again.”

            • @eppe:

              Beautiful one….but watch out for the PC police. They’ll be all over you like stink on sh*t.

              • Dave,this forum like the cartoon South Park,there is no pc when it comes to jokes,everyone takes a hit as it should be.

        • Let ’em sign an executive order allowing them to take whatever they want. Enforcing such an order will get expensive for the JBTs.

        • In order for people to come for the hoarders, they need to know who they are.
          How will they do that?
          Secondary if they do, I would imagine a large gun, Bowie knife or machete and bow should suffice.
          Please do not scare monger as it makes you no better than the people whom are causing this problem.

      2. It’s always somebody else’s fault but theirs

        • Yea, as a self-paying, two year college student from the seventies, I lived within my means.

          But that isn’t the case for young people these days.

          The average debt from attending a four-year college is now over $31,000.00. Most of that debt is “revolving interest”, or credit card debt.

          The reports say that the total college debt now stands at about 1.2 trillion dollars, and that it is crippling the economy; mainly because graduates are having to move back home with parents and Mom and Dad are stuck with the college debt entirely, since there are no jobs for those graduates to take.

          With about 18 million students enrolled in college, and many are “living it up”, nice cars/parties/ball games/spring breaks to South Beach, all on credit, the vicious cycle continues.

          So, the way i see it, there is a lot of “hoarding” going on; but, it isn’t cash being hoarded, it is “credit card bills”.

          yep, just slide ’em under the ole mattress, and they will go away. Odrama will see to that.

          • …most all claiming “hardship” and avoiding repayment of those loans…while the interest rate meter puts them into the debt world where most will never recover.

          • Get this. My Nephew and his wife just both graduated from dental school and they financed their college loans over a 30 year loan period. Like a friggin house mortgage. I ask, is it all worth it? The only way you win in that game is to die before the loan is paid.

            • BTW/ Back in the early 80’s at a State University, my college cost was only about $1250 per semester, and that included a daily meals/ food plan and dorm housing.

              Its called Robbery today, You graduate into debt slavery.

              If I had kids I tell them buy a sail boat and sail the world. You can get all the life experience out there than any college can teach you or ruin your life being a debt slave. Anybody can go learn any skill they want through self education. You don’t need any certificate or diploma to run your own company. I have been self employed 23 yrs.

      3. Oddly, the Fed never blames themselves for the inevitable consequences of their corruption, stupidity, and incompetence.

        • Usually because the Fed is being told what to to…

      4. The nerve of these sick f*cking bastards.

        They caused the problem, then made it worse and now it’s my f*cking fault?!

        I am hoarding cash? Me? I can’t barely pay the f*cking electric bill every month.

        And these aholes have something like 5 trillion dollars on their books… and it’s me? us?

        makes me sick to my stomach.

        • No, you’re probably like me. You have enough cash under the cushions of your couch to buy that new Ferrari and a Mc Mansion but have decided not to for some evil purpose, like making inept politicians and central bankers look bad. After all, between the high paying jobs of flipping burgers and delivering pizza you’re probably bringing in an easy $2 million a year.

          • Any and all of my extra money went for AMMO. And we all know what direction that’s flying when SHTF.

          • Any and all of my extra money went for AMMO. And we all know what direction that’s flying when SHTF.

      5. So I guess I am a homeland hoarder now. Just adding that title to the list of all other things the .gov calls this veteran.

        • BJinME, it’s interesting that ‘hoarding’ is one of the favorite words of government officials. I’ve always known it as ‘stockpiling’, and there is a difference between the 2 words. Stockpiling is when people such as we preppers gather together a certain amount of food, water, medical supplies, and other essential supplies to help us survive natural disasters and other adverse situations. The real definition of the word hoarding is when corporations hold back a certain product and/or service in order to raise the price and that same product or service and make windfall profits from it. Example: after the Middle East war of October, 1973, OPEC imposed the ‘Arab Oil Embargo’ because of US support for Israel. There was never any embargo. It was an artificial shortage. All of the oil companies were simply holding back gasoline to make a windfall profit. I can still remember the long lines at the gas stations and the fights that sometimes broke out. I was in a few of those fights. What Big Oil did back then is what is really called hoarding. The feds can take their propaganda and get f#$%ed.

          • Soon they will accuse us of hoarding food Nd water and confiscate it, a la the Soviet Union, whom they hope to model themselves after f em all

          • I remember the gas line days too, along with the interest rate of 18%! Do we dare remind law makers about them? It is so ironic that they are talking about what we choose to gather for the unknown, when the White Houses’ website advised to stock up for natural disasters. With a list of things to purchase.
            In addition, law markers create the rules and regulation on how we can save, when we can withdrawal our hard earned money. Which makes it impossible to take your money out, which it should be mentioned is tied to the stock market? Take the money outt and pay the early withdrawl penalties or have leave it in to magically disappear as the stock market takes a downturn based on bad labor and the declining economy!
            If the printing of money to the tune of 83 billion a month, which is what is driving the stock market upwards, isn’t enough then my few extra dollars in the mansion jar will never fulfill what ever financial gains they think they will be gaining!

        • No money here, cause I’m horded 1.6 Billion Hollow Point Bullets for the fun of it.

        • bout sticking to the subject at hand. Its always about you.

        • Would the real Eisenstein, please step forward?

      6. I did it…It’s my fault. I’ve got all the cash that would have saved the economy locked up in my gun safe. Uh-huh.

        So at a time when we have 25% unemployment, per capita income has dropped precipitously for the majority of the last decade, can ya blame a person for keeping a little money in their savings account for their retirement or for a “rainy day” if they can? One of those conservative value things don’t ya know.

        • Rednek101, I’m the same way. I’ve got a nice fortune tied up in preps of all kinds, plus still have cash for more preps and the proverbial ‘rainy day’. I don’t apologize to anyone for it. The feds don’t have a leg to stand on considering everything they’re doing to hurt this country.

          • Greetings Braveheart.

            If and when they come to “reallocate” my resources, they will find some extra lead, in their heads. I do not care what alphabet soup agency you work for. Step foot on my property in any serious event… BLAM.

            If it looks hopeless, I’ll send the family out the back, and “forget” to close the valve on my heater. BLAM.

            If I can’t defend it, no one will have it. Kind of like Excalibur. NO ONE SHALL HAVE MY STOCKPILE BUT ME!

            Unless of course you have something nice to trade, like labor in my garden or sandbag filling services. Now that the generator has failed you can manually pump the well for a few hours.

            I am not the only one who will defend the to end.

            • I think what they’re really pissed about, is people who are NOT “hoarding” their savings in a BANK. They want our money so they can use 10 times the amount and profit off of it…if It’s in PMS or under our mattress, they don’t have their hands on it.

              This just tells me more people are being smart and keeping/taking their money OUT OF THE BANKS, in anticipation of the coming bail-in.

              Naturally, that doesn’t work for the cabal.

              • Good evening, Sixpack. Most of my cash is in a safe at home [private banking], that is, whatever I have not YET invested in preps. I have immediate access to mine, I can hold it, so I can truly say I own it. F#$% the banks!

            • Good evening, Townsaver. I’ve worked my ass off and earned the money to buy what I have today. No taxpayers’ money involved ever! I don’t give up anything, period! anyone who forces their way into my home dies, period! Take care.

          • Renegade
            Correct No apologies. I played by the rules. I won’t give away easily what I have worked for all my life.

            My condolences to the people who haven’t seen this coming for the past decade. Prolly gonna be some drastic corrections to the gene pool in short order.

      7. This country is nervous about the future direction of the economy, foreign policies, value of their money, stability of labor and delivery systems. Damn straight we’re ‘hoarding’ our money.

        There is also an ample supply of rope available, cleverly hoarded in plain sight at hardware stores dispersed all over the country, along with several million lamp posts that have been installed in every downtown area, ready for use.

        • In other words, they can have whatever the rope around their necks is long enough to reach?

          • Sixpack, I’d let them have that rope only if I ran out of ‘hot lead’.

        • We all need to do the patriotic thing and put cash in the bank so they can use it for the “bail in”the fed reserve has admitted on their website will probably happen.Fine,support the economy,get more ammo/food/camping gear/what have you!

        • Actually, from what I see, a VERY LIMITED number of people are “nervous” about current events. To ask ANYONE under the age of 40, what they think about any relevant subject of which is impacting this country, all you would get is a blank stare.

          What todays 18-30 population know about is Miley’s last twerk, Beyoncé’s last BJ, who farted on The View, and something REALLY important about Kim Kardash-hole,…

      8. On the positive side, at least patriotic Americans like Michelle-Marie Antoinette Obama are doing their level best to spend us back into prosperity. She is doing her darndest to spend at least $1 billion per year on uber-luxe vacations to help everyone out.

        You know, 30 years from now, people will look back on this Keynsian idiocy like we look back on the Tulip Mania in Holland, the South Seas Bubble in England, or the Mississippi Bubble in France. And if you don’t know what those are, google it, or pick up Charles MacKay’s ~1850 book “The Madness of Crowds.” And those people were SANE compared to today’s cult of Kim Kardashian or the Cult of Al Gore and Faux Global Warming

        • Text
          Moo heller name aside from mr arms is michael, just ask the late Joan rivers who mysteriously died after a routine procedure following this revelation

      9. Yeah, that’s it, I’ve got too much money and I’m not spending it. Morons!

        The real problem is their monetary philosophy is flawed and they won’t admit it.

      10. HEY FEDS!! Yeah you stealing, lying, false flag generating, terrorist loving, ASSHOLES. You are the problem right beside LIBERAL brainwashed democratic and RINO voters who love lgbt freaks,the atheists, baby killers, satan, and stealing other peoples HARD EARNED MONEY!! I look forward to the day WE hang your treasonous corrupt asses with newly made hemp rope, and drive all those other morons back to their holes or watch them hang beside you!!! You have to have money to hoard it you dumb-asses. Fuck you and the rainbow float with all your buddies on it!!!

        • Speaking of false flag, anybody else see this?

      11. If the Fed’s are concerned about money not getting back into our US economy, then try focusing on the billions of dollar’s sent back to the home countries of those 20 million+ illegal aliens working in our country…….

        EfF U obama and your corrupt administration…..

      12. Oh dear GOD…. where do I begin?

        A) The people are not “hoarding” money. The people HAVE NO MONEY TO HOARD

        B) Most people who I know are barely scraping by from paycheck to paycheck; those that have paychecks that is.

        C) Most of us are not earning anywhere near what we once did; many of us are back to jobs and pay scales we thought we had left behind 10 or 15 years ago

        D) yes there is “very little inflation”… except for non essentials like food, clothing, gasoline and medicine. NONE of which are included in calculating today’s inflation rates. Perhaps the all seeing eye on top of the pyramid cannot see all the way down here where us “little people” scrimp and pinch pennies and wonder how we can afford to live

        E) PEOPLE ARE SCARED. Scared of not being able to pay their bills or stay in their homes or put their kids through school, to say nothing of saving for the pipe dream called “retirement”. I know of many people who joke that they’ll know they’ve “retired” from the sound of the dirt clods raining down on the small wood box they are laying in.

        F) The very idea that the people are “hoarding” money when they’re barely able to keep their heads above water would be laughable if it were not so dangerous. Dangerous because it is so blind and self serving; dangerous because the pompous self absorbed gasbags at the very top have no idea how angry they are making the people of this nation. How much longer do we have to watch this fantasy play out on TV, where everything is sunshine and lollipops, while in the real world there is real suffering, and things are NOT getting any better?

        This is nothing more than the so-called “elites” lashing out against we the people because their mad ridiculous schemes ARE NOT WORKING. They cannot possibly be wrong; THEY never mistakes; it must be everyone else who is at fault. Pathetic!

        Ideals Mastering Power Creating All Life GOD IS

        • Don’t attempt to reason with these commies, they r simply following the Soviet Union play ook, blaming the people for the problems THEY created. F them, lock n load, this is gonna get ugly soon.

          • Watch the elite(jewish) start changing their names….soviet bolshivism anyone

        • I recognize your espousings, and I have to say I like them and can identify.

          Your website… got a little bit of crazy going on there. You want people to make crosses and paint symbols on them? I’m a fairly open minded person, but you just went crazy sauce on us bro.

          Is that your intent, to paint us all as crazies?

      13. Hold the phone

        The bankers get bailouts in the trillions of $$$$$$

        & NOW the Federal Reserve says that the GDP is hoarding $$$$$


        seriously what total BS

        little ole me is keeping the economy from improving LMAOOooooooooooo

        Time to bail out the TAXPAYER

        IF we can piss away money on the bankers who HOARD it & do NOT lend it then you can bail out the TAXPAYERS to stimulate the economy.

        enough of this banker cry baby – put our money in our fat hands & STFU

      14. Let’s see it was George Bush, the Tea “Baggers”, the war on women, the racist right, bolt action assault weapons, homophobic fear mongers, 64 ounce Dr. Peppers, 10 round magazines, tungsten filament light bulbs, bible clingers, greenhouse gases, evil corporations, the minimum wage, the free market, fossil fuels… and on…and on…and on…

        The number one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. — Joe Biden

        If we want to keep our reproductive rights, we must be willing to tell our stories, to be willing and able to say, “I love my life, but I wish my mother had aborted me.” — Lynn Beisner, the Guardian

        Is there such a thing as a man-made stroke? In other words, did someone do this to (Democratic Senator Tim Johnson)? …I know what this [Republican] party is capable of. — Joy Behar on The View

        Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them. — Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

        During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. — Al Gore

        Every month that we do not have an economic recovery package 500 million Americans lose their jobs. — Nancy Pelosi

        Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. — Barack Obama

        I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares [sic] of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don’t want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required. — Sheryl Crow at the Huffington Post

        My fear is that the whole island (of Guam) will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize. — Democrat Congressman Hank Johnson

        except they can’t see the forest for the trees”

        • Vet1, every name you mentioned are worse than morons. Every one of them ought to be given one mercy round to the head to put them out of their misery. Especially that bitch Mary Frances Berry who said that white males are 2nd-class citizens. She can go burn in hell.

          • Amen to that.

      15. Why do they keep calling it MONEY when it is CURRENCY?

        • ‘Cause then you might actually want the real thing, like Russian and China and India are “hoarding.”

          • A reliable source who has relatives inside Russia told me that the Russia people are told “very” little by the govt.

            The Russian govt is telling people to store food.

            Good advise.

      16. CB, I’m with you on that. The feds can kiss my white ass and go f#$% themselves. We’re having to give up for money than ever in taxes to support freeloaders, foreign aid to countries that hate us, stupid wars, useless politicians who are only looking out for themselves and whatever special interests they’re in bed with. We can just barely afford the basics and keep our heads above water. Fortunately, I don’t have any loans, credit card bills, or any of that BS. Yes, I hoard cash for my prep shopping and other purposes. So, once again, feds, go f#$% yourselves! I don’t care what you think.

        • Well we aint got income now so any cash we use is from the hoard pile. Guess its time we all lay claim to being illegals from Central America so we dont get hauled to jail. They got the free pass we all need.

          Meanwhile Weve been canning tomatoes and salsa and green beans to eat later. Guess were hoarding homegrown produce too.

        • Right on the mark Renegade. You would think preppers are the only citizens buying anything. Gov should be grateful, oh wait, that would take a measure of humility.

      17. Why do they keep calling it MONEY when it is FIAT CURRENCY?

        • Why do they call it fiat currency when it is toilet paper?

          • Why will they end up calling toilet paper when it’s too small and too scratchy?

        • Well they can’t be referring to us; as people who believe it’s better to be prepared and self-sufficient, we’re out there spending our excess on the most useful items, thereby stimulating the economy to some extent. It’s the banksters, the ones who helped engineer this continuing disaster, that are hoarding all the cash. What individuals have don’t add up to much when compared to that criminal class known a bankers. What money I do have goes into a locally owned credit union, not some faceless bank owned and run by 3-piece suited thugs. Only a fool would leave any money, or do business of any kind, with a bank.

      18. Guys got an alert. As a pilot this sends up some red flags. There is a TFR that has just went up in the DC area (temporary flight restriction) it says VIP movement (30nm range suggests it’s the president) the date? 9-11. From 12am to 10am in the morning. He’s not spending the night in Washington. That’s concerning., scroll to doc area, should see it. Or google tfr 4/1911 praying for you guys, last check on preps! Again, the president will not be in Washington for the 9/11 anniversary.

        • Eagle1, thanks for that heads-up. I smell a false-flag in the air.

          • Notice on the map, if you take out all of the little patches of TFRs for ball games, airshows and little stuff, you are left with 10 red zones of importance. Places like the AFBs and the VIPs in and around DC.

            I dunno…12 planes and 10 targets = two spare weapons in case of a miss/malfunction?

          • Perhaps,but also see obola traveling and making speeches/raising bribe money on that day.

            • Good point, and I hope I’m wrong brother. Something just seems strange that he isn’t comfortable enough spending the night in the Capitol that night.

              • Eagle,checked wh speech schedule for 9/11 this week,nothing on the site as of yet,that said,one could consider it good opsec to not have public schedule for said day but a impromptu speech last minute,or,perhaps a round of golf.

        • Eagle 1-

          Thanks for the tip, good info. I checked the NOTAMS and zoomed out in the DC area- there are 4 VIP TFRs that I can see in that area. Biggest one is around Wash National. Commercial/Military IFR squawking discrete codes (as they should be anyways)are still flying in the TFR, so nothing new there. That means VFR and A/C with transponder issues are potentially hostiles?

          I don’t have any people inside the ARTCCs in that area so I will be blind as to what if anything that transpires. Have some west coast and central contacts and will ping them to see what’s up.

          • Vfr actually is more easily detected. You must file a flight plan to get into that space. Although if someone really wanted to they could fake an emergency over Reagan international and gain priority clearance. After that, who knows what would happen. Two of the tfrs have been in place since 9/11 (the ones centered on Reagan international) the one just north of there is also a location where many prominent Washington folk would first bug out to. It would make sense though, rats run from a field set on fire.

        • See this…remind you of building 7 on 9/11?

      19. Maybe it’s just me……. not spending enough money. Hmmmm, I spend a considerable amount of cash on things I am supposedly “hoarding”. So, by that definition, I have done my part to stimulate the economy. BUT, because I spent my money wisely, I am now an evil hoarder, and because of this, subject to having my investment confiscated. Go figure.

      20. QE1-Billions to the Bankers
        QE2-Billions to the Bankers
        QE3-Billions to the Bankers
        QE4-Billions to the Bankers
        Equals No Recovery!!!!!!!!!
        If they would have given all the QE Money to the taxpayers, our economy would be booming!

        • @Johnson

          Here is the problem, to give money to “the Tax Payer” you first have to “take money from the tax payers”. Thus when you figure in “Government Costs” the Tax Payers never get back what they put in.

          The real solution is the one President Regan had, GET THE FUCK’N GOVERNMENT OUT OF PEOPLE’S LIVES/POCKETS!

          • Now they gave the money to the elite and banksters and will soon come to take it from the general public.
            Screw these pricks,
            Black market

        • @Johnson. They will not give the populate any money cause we would buy lots of Guns and Ammo with it to let them have it. They want to keep us broke and destitute to put up any resistance to their Tyranny.

      21. It’s a false choice. In a normal economy, savings and investment lead to future economic growth. But this isn’t a normal economy.

      22. Money? What’s that?

        I’m hoarding my jalapeno sour dough pretzels and doritos. It’s NCAA football time.

        Where’s the beer ball?

      23. Nobody is hoarding cash. How can you hoard what you don’t have….

        • Yes, but by not going so far into debt that it drives you into bankruptcy, you are hoarding available credit. This is worse than hoarding cash as it does not put you into enough slavery to the big banks and does not give them a claim on your future productivity.

          • Winston, back in the 90s when I tried to get a mortgage to buy a BOL I was looking at, my personal credit was too inadequate to get the mortgage. Same thing for a car loan or even a credit card. I don’t have any of those 3 items taking money from me. I’m debt-free so I can do more prepping faster than I would’ve been able to otherwise.

        • Ugly, the only things I’m hoarding are my preps. If anyone comes for those, they’ll receive “lead and brass nutrients” instead.

          • The last I checked Lead and Brass were not considered essential nutrients by the FDA….

            • Ugly, f#$% the FDA! They are ‘essential nutrients’ for anyone who approaches me with any bad intentions toward me. But I do get your point.

        • Right you are Ugly. Can’t hoard what you don’t have… and they can’t find what you don’t hoard. I’m safe.
          By the way, the picture at the top of the article reminds me of the last time I was in the pokey. Well, except for the money under the mattress…. and the clean sheets… and the floor was a bit stickier…

          • You must have stayed at the Ramada Inn?

            • 🙂

      24. SCREW THE “FED” !

        • “Screw the Fed”…..not without lots & lots of protection!

      25. The only people (if they can be called as such) are the Zionist Jews who are hoarding / printing the money. They have been responsible for the human financial suffering and death throughout the history. They need to be stopped and pay for their crimes.

        No one ever questioned the truth about the cause of the WWII. Only fake numbers and lies were produced by the same tribe who also control the media to prevent the truth and false acquisition of the Germans.

        • People like YOU will pay for your sins in hell for all eternity. You’re so filled with hate that you can’t see clearly.

          (John 8:44 NIV) You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

          • Barn Cat. I have two and only two questions from you. No need to debate our differences please. Just answer these two questions and clarify your position PLEASE.

            1-Do you support rapists and do you see the banking cartels are simply financial rapists?

            2- Do you agree that the rapists must be destroyed?

            I’ll thank you if you provide honest answers.

          • Barn IDIOT! That VERY bible verse is Jesus christ speaking TO Pharisee rabbis and every fuckin jew who followed after those rabbis vile perverted evil Talmudic teachings!!

            And barn cats supposes its a verse aimed at non jew goyims?!!….What a Lost cause you are besides an biblically ignorant Fool jew firster.

      26. Is the bed and the mattress in the article belonged to Joan Rivers?

      27. It’s actually the banks that are hoarding the cash and refusing to lend it. Rather they would borrow the money from the FED at zero percent and purchase 30 year bonds for which to hold as collateral in other business dealings.

        • Correct but the banks are owned by Jews so we are back to the start of the cycle.

      28. I’ve got 1 million boxes of Macaroni & Cheese, 2,847 cans of Spam, and a large jar of Jiff (Extra Crunchy) hidden under my bed….does that make me a “Hoarder?”.

        Yes, I have a very big bed

        • Yes. Hand over the Jiff to your local authorities immediately! Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.

        • No. But that does make you my neighbor….

      29. They are like Hitler when questioned about stewardship of other peoples money. They are looking to blame someone and that someone is you, because it can’t be their fault. They are the government and they are here to help..
        sarc off….

        • Hitler was trying to get rid of the private banker fiat money in Germany. That’s why he had to go. Most of the Hitler history is lies and pure propaganda, easily sold to ignorant American’s to support WW2 and the banker profits, funding both sides. Nothing has changed, only the actors. The reason the American people are’nt spending is you can’t spend that you don’t have. The actual over 1 trillion defense (offense) yearly budget is killing America. It is obscene and a threat to all of humanity. It has destroyed our nation.

          • Welfare expenses are a trillion also. I would much prefer to spend a trillion on defense/offense than dead weight. More bang for your buck right :).


            • Yeah, keep the peons in their place corporate welfare.

      30. Get a 4 G plan !

        Gallons (water)
        Guns (+Ammo)

      31. All your moneys are belong to US.

      32. Hey, We live in the Blue State of MinneSoros. The way I figure it, there are enough “Jihadi Rags” here already that should the SHTF, we’ll be up to our necks in severed heads and crucified Christians.

        Our state’s motto should bb; “Come to Minneapolis, the World’s new Bosnia”

        • Did you hear that with all of the ISIS fighters coming out of MinneSoros that they are thinking of changing the city name of Minneapolis to “Mecca on the Mississippi”, just say’n

      33. I spent all my money yesterday on PMAGS and 223 just so
        I have something to give them for Christmas if they want it

      34. I have a little buddy that prints his own money with a little printer he found in an antique store a long time ago and a lazer printer and some handy printing experience. He doesn’t make a lot with it, he only makes 5’s and 1’s. enough for breakfast at a small diner for him and me. Or a cold beer on a hot day. Just enough to have a little extra. I think everyone should start doing it, why not? The federal does it all the time. It’s all fake anyway.

      35. Why should some people have enough supplies for a week when others have nothing…..Atlas Shrugged

      36. Why should some people have enough supplies for a week when others have nothing…..Atlas Shrugged

      37. Why should a hard working American have to share their wealth to entitled groups and public sector union workers?

        Everytime I hear a scandal of fraud in the government or incompetent public sector workers, it makes me only hoard my money more because there is no way that the parasite class and the professional criminal class should have access to my wealth.

        • Socialism Is Communism, welcome to our community. Excellent points. You’ve come to the right place.

        • Amen!
          I refuse to have my hard work finance their crap, they want more?
          I WILL GIVE LESS!

      38. Could some of you finance experts please explain this to me. If the dollar (FRN) is fiat, not worth the cloth/paper it’s printed on, ready to collapse, then why in the HELL would anyone want it? This has never made sense to me ever. So is it truly worthless, is going to crash, why has it lasted this long? Again why does the world keep trading in it WHY? Is all this crash here, crash there, what it will it look like when etc., or is this the biggest scram to get control of all of the world’s trading currency under one roof’s control. Why hoard/want (crave), something that is TOTALLY WORTHLESS now and will be in the future WHY? Inquiring minds (at least mine), want to know.

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!!

        • Right now a lot of people are buying up dollars. The dollar is up (was over .83 Friday) cause the other fiat (Euro) currencies suck. If that is the case, it ought to scare the hell out of everyone.

      39. Money what the hell is that?
        Oh Ya, the stuff that looks like monopoly money I used when I was kid. The stuff with dead Prez on them except old Benny.

        I’m guilty if you can claim I’m hording money if you are talking about the silver I have. (not one hell of lot of it either). No brass and lead well that is another story!

        Screw the Government with Obullshit in office it is always some one else’s fault. P.O.S.


        • I’m hoarding nickels and copper pennies. I also have over 2,000 rounds of BB’s. If I only had a BB gun. But I do have a really nice slingshot.

          Oh, and “junk,” lots and lots of “junk.”

          • Arch,you save pre 81 pennies and nickels,they do have more money value as metals then as currency,I divert the older stuff as going thru change jars,occasionally hit a wheatback/buffalo/at times majority silver coinage,tis rare though.

            • I found a silver dime in change a few weeks ago.

        • Good evening, Sarge. Good points about money. On brass and lead, I have a fortune invested in that.

      40. Hoarding? Yeah my social Security check and pension just barely cover my bills. I have no debt but it looks like we’re getting there without it. All these people who have part time jobs are really squirreling it away. Obamacare will take care of any extra you might have and of course taxes,electric,gas and anything else you have to purchase will have you in the negative column. Did any of our politicians have any schooling in economics or accounting? Doubt it!

        • They may have had schooling in economics, but it was that Keynesian crap from the Paul Samuelson textbook. I couldn’t pass the course in college because I couldn’t bring myself to give what I knew were incorrect answers just to pass a test.

          • Archivist, I can top that one. I avoided college altogether because I didn’t want to get brainwashed with any of their commie crap and then pay off on a student loan for the rest of my life just for the privilege.

            • Warchild attended Beaver College!

              • I saw Beaver College before they changed the name to Arcadia.

            • I had scholarships and grants for most of my college. There was less than $2,000 in a 3% loan, which was quickly paid off. There was no such thing as a poor person borrowing a small fortune to go to college back when I went.

      41. Can we start shooting at these f***ers, YET!?

        • No. Wait until you see the yellow of their eyes….

      42. So, when I face the platoon of US military quoting the “new” laws and attempting to confiscate my food, water, wood and whatever more I may have for my self and my family, I have 2 options: Give it all out, maybe get arrested for terrorism, but inevitably die from starvation; Or refuse, stand up, defend my resources and maybe die in the confrontation.

        I don’t know. I just may pick grater odds.

        • Prepper77, I understand it’s your own decision to make. I made mine over 2 decades ago and that’s to stand up an fight. Take care.

      43. Oh my goodness, I love that photo. Nobody will ever find that guy’s stash. Too funny. Kind of hard on the old body, though.

      44. New Banking Regulations FORCE Banks To Buy BILLIONS Of Treasury Securities

        To Avoid Another Crash, Banks FORCED To Buy Treasury Securities

        “Bank regulators are now forcing financial institutions to hold more Treasury securities in an effort to ensure cash solvency in the event of another financial crisis, the Washington Examiner reports.

        The reason given for why banks must now hold an additional $100 billion dollars of liquid assets is because these securities can easily be exchanged into cash at any time. Treasury securities are the top category for qualifying as liquid assets, although banks can fulfill the requirement through stocks, as well.”

        The Daily Caller

      45. I hate their arrogance…. Especially, since I have been U/E’d for the last 3 1/2 yrs. I wish… I had money to hoard…. I HOPE I have some CHANGE left in my pockets after this clown leaves office….

      46. Dear Federal Reserve,

        I hear that you are accusing me and my kind of hoarding cash. Seeing as how you have given Trillions to the banks. Might I suggest you use your NSA buddies and get all our addresses and then send US some money.

        The banks aren’t spending it. I assure you though that me and my buddies will go to town on buying things and building bunk… err homes. Give us ONLY one Trillion. I’m sure we will stimulate the ecomony!

        Sierra Dave

      47. We have a poster who keeps 10 dollar bills in coffee cans,tis their fault!

        • Yea, but when he opens them, they will be full of monopoly money and Mushroom will be laughing from the great beyond…

      48. Money is an idea, an illusion at best. More people should be concerned with establishing real wealth: food, water, shelter, guns, ammo, silver, gold, real tangible assets, land, off grid lifestyle, and self sufficiency. All listed are more important and valuable than Fraudulent Reserve Notes. For all the effort in stimulus money and the FED’s effort to “help”, that money would have better been put to use re-instating gold….or some of it for our national currency to be backed by. But wait, that would have put America on a course not associated with disaster. Damn, what was I thinking!?

        • Smart would be to back currency with a basket of goods,some could be gold/other metals/natural gas/oil/agriculture products ect.

      49. Just think about this country of ours as a living being. We have joy, we have sadness, and we have aches, pains that go along with growing old. Like most living things we get sick, and one of the sicknesses is a cancerous tumor. We have such a tumor right now, the diagnosis say it is Washington the District of Columbia. As we all know there are three kinds of treatment for any tumor. They are; First- Surgical Removal, Second- Chemo Therapy, and Third- Radiation Therapy or a combination of all. So read into this, what you will, but this TUMOR MUST BE TAKEN CARE OF SOON, because soon it will be terminal (I fear it is already).

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!!

        • What does “TSORIITA” mean? Same with “GPTDY”. I get the rest and agree. With your permission, I may use both of those anagrams! Thanks

      50. I am hoarding sand.

      51. this report on hoarding during a crisis sounds about right…

        history repeats itself once again.

        illuminati infamously evil bringer of death nwo zog zio-jew george soros got rich by helping the german nazi SS secret police find arrest and murder his fellow jews who were hoarding gold and jewels during WW2. he became a influential globalist billionaire for his betrayal of his fellow jews lives.

        bottom line: “horde all you want, just remember it’s yours only so long as you have the ability to securely hide it and physically protect it, so plan accordingly.”

        there will soon no longer be any innocent men in zog amerika.

        they will make criminals of all once free zog amerikans.


        • Sad statement, but probably true. ‘They’ will want and search for all that they think you may have….those days are coming.

          But, what if. Let’s say that the NWO could care less about gold, silver, and 5 gallon buckets. That is because the new system has their number only and they control all the food supply. They know 5 gallon buckets will soon sour or run out since only about 1% of the populace has them. Thus, so what….the amount of food stored in 5 gallon buckets is an extreme joke when you compare annual production.

          My take. The financial system will be changed, and the food, water, and energy supply controlled by an entity. Thus a prepper supply is nothing but an extremely, microscopic sized pimple on a massive tyranneosaurs ass….

          • FEAR=CONTROL


            very good point.

            though i feel you are right, yet wrong.

            the zog fedgov has all the amerikan dollar fiat money they need, as they have the keys to the zog fiat dollar printing press, and create distribute trillions of zog fiat dollars as needed globally to buy influence.

            it’s more about “control of the goyim gentile society sheeple masses by fear” of discovery and possible prosecution by the zog amerika state I.R.S. tax debt slave gestapo enforcers.

            they hunt down , harass , prosecute and destroy regular zog amerikans lives for just .30 cents owed in back taxes , seize homes from widows who owe 5.00 on property taxes and now desire to tax workers for free lunches offered by employers at work.

            it’s more about silent psychological manipulation ZOG FEDGOV CONTROL BY FEAR of the goyim gentile masses of zog amerika sheeple society.

            they create so much mass psychosis fear of the zog I.R.S. that the masses turn on each other feed on each other, turn in each other, all in the name of zog warped manipulated community fair play and justice.

            they reward you for turning in those who don’t play by the zog tax rules and make the act of betrayal of your fellow tax debt slave citizen a zog amerikan act of patriotism.

            “if you see something, say something.” ~ dhs motto



            • FM.
              No doubt control is here. I own my home, but someone else has the title. Nobody owns their home if it is on city property. The middleclass is being thumped into the poor house. That way 1% truly controls and owns the 99%. There is a massive redistribution of wealth going on right now and sadly 99% Americans cannot see it….

      52. To early to start shooting to late to fix it

        • Dog,agree with your second statement,first,hmmmm…..

      53. To early to start shooting to late to fix it

      54. How much hoarding could a hoarding whore hoard, if a hoarding whore could hoard more?

        • She could probably hoard everything that was in my wallet….

      55. I think the majority of Americans are not buying this BS.

      56. So it’s the people’s fault the monetary system is fuct? Give me a break! It’s those in the millionaires club, clinging to their so-called power that have ruined this country and our systems. Perhaps France got it right with their reset….perhaps we need one in the US as well, although I don’t believe our reset will be as nice! Pray Jesus comes back before we get to you rich folk. He is the only one who can save you! No pun intended! 😉

      57. Is it weird that it could be illegal to have USD currency in the USA….what is next? No pesos in Mexico….

      58. It used to be demonization leads to taxation……now in 2014, the axiom is demonization leads to confiscation.

        Mobile, Modular, and Misleading. My new mantra governing my preps.

        • Cellar Spider, I don’t care how much they demonize me, but they’ll only receive “hot lead” if they come to my place with such intentions.

      59. I guess someone at the Fed need to get Gates and Buffet et al on the phone and tell them to stop hoarding their money.

      60. No Money in Poky….

        The day happened. Along with my AARP letter, was a letter from my bank. They wanted to know why I was not in debt and still paying my bills. They stated that to be fair, we must take 50% of your account and pay the bills for the less fortunate that don’t feel like working or paying their bills.

        Congress finally passed a Law called the Ugly Bill….this was to take from those that pay and then redivy it to those that don’t. Houses paid then get revalued and then that goes to underwater mortgage payments. It is a win-win for the bankster and for those that have a $300,000 mortgage with an $8 an hour job….

        Under the newly passed Ugly Bill people fortunate will need to work 120 hour weeks to make up for the lack of jobs for those that may want to look for one in about 20 years. This will keep hoarding to a minimum so that people working and paying have nothing else to do but work and drink Oly at 10pm….if the working class is always working, then how can they hoard? Right?

        The Ugly Bill goes into effect 9-11-2014. For those fortunate ones that have paid their bills, have a home, and are responsible, you will get a separate tax ID number than the less fortunate ones. Your rates will be taxed differently than the others. If you have any questions, contact one of the UN officers at your local FEMA Camp. Please help America a Grow!

      61. All I hear is talk talk talk out of all of these sites. Bunch of bullshit. Yeah jobs are down and interest rates are really low. Interest is shit and the country is struggling. But all this bullshit about doomsday, world war 3, russia, syria, martial law, the government taking over has been talks for so fucking long. That’s all it is.. is TALK. Nothing EVER HAPPENS.

        • Nothing ever happens until it does. Hopefully it never will. The purpose of preparedness is not to hope for doomsday but rather to set aside things for unfortunate eventualities that may come in the future. This could be a disruption in your job, a major storm, or an alien invasion. It’s also optional. You can choose to do it or not to do it depending on what you think you should do. However, if you choose not to be ready for negative circumstances don’t expect those of us who are to come to your rescue.

          • “It’s Deja Vu, all over again”

            Yogi Berra.

      62. Save it ALL! now that i know it pisses em off im going to stop spending

      63. Well “Ugly” you forgot that we that saved all our lives for retirement – now get no safe return on our money and must risk it all to eat. How does financial prison feel?

      64. CLEARLY…Smokin’ and UGlY are STILL ‘in fine FORM’… God SAVE the QUEEN…Oops, sorry, WRONG culture, carry on!

        Good Evening Everyone…

        Ummmm, it MAY be a little ‘wierder’ than you all have recognized just yet. As was posted in – here – a couple of days ago I WATCHED (YECHHH!) about 5 minutes of ‘Bloomberg TV’ accidentally the other day. Lo and behold…what caught my attention as I sat skipping through the channels was a female reporter saying,

        “A recent study by the Federal Reserve indicates that the stimulus injected since 2007 has predominantly enriched the 1% ALONE…”

        ..or somesuch (Give or take, that’s from memory, after all!) So, what NOW? They KNOW damn good and WELL that “WE, the People” don’t have SQUAT left. That means that THIS lil bit of publicity is ACTUALLY directed at someone other than US…at THEM-SELVES. Gee.,, it’s NICE to be off the hook for once, ain’t it?

        No, this is something ‘different’ people; remember that the BIS just a couple of weeks ago was hawking on about there being too much investor complacency in the markets? Yes, that the VIX was WAY too LOW, Yes?

        This is as CLOSE as they are EVER going to come to saying ‘it’s our fault’; beleive me the only reason that any thing such-like is being heard now is that somewhere in the backs of thier primitive minds something is warning them that there WILL be consequences…like, PITCH-Forks…Filleting KNIVES, and my absolute, all-time FAVORITE…straight from the French Revolution… Mr GUILLOTINE!

        THIS is how the “in-fighting” BEGINS…first a few…THEN everyone pointing the finger at SOMEONE ELSE. Technically, these are still primates, though calling them ‘Human’ would be…well, stretching it a tad, I KNOW, XCUSSE ME!!! However, way back in them lil noggins, back where the DARK things live, somebody is gettin’ a LITTLE NERVOUS, hehehehe.

        If you THINK DWTS or Monday Night Football is entertaining just WAIT a few more weeks…I’m sure everyone here caught the friday jobs news….HHHAHAHHAH!

        140kK JOBS ADDED?! She-it, it TAKES 400K per month just to maintain a statis quo with the younger generation; older workers retiring to ‘Golden Bliss’ those vacancies filled by 20-somethings. The only problem is that the ELDERS are shit-scared that thier vaporized savings aren’t going to last more than – Oh, day another 4 months…not 18 years! Consequently, NO ONE is retiring if they can avoid it.

        On THAT note, “An open note to the Younger generations”;

        Please accept my profound apologies for the mess we have left you. I and my generation – as well those preceding us – SLEPT on our WATCHES…and all this SHIT happened by THEFT as we did; the vain and the greedy came while we slept and took it ALL. We have NO excuse.

        That said, bring on the second Revolution…I don’t think anything else is capable of reseting it all at this point. Good Luck, God Bless.

        To my generation…WHEN will it END?…amd HOW?

        NOTE: the last message from ‘him’ is – here – slightly delayed …small accident with SHARP OBJECT…BLOOD… ME. OOPS.

        THAT is ALL the typing I can muster this eve. Tomorrow likely…

        • Sadly, you are correct about the 60 to 70 year olds staying employed.

          Partly because of the “fear” factor, that their retirement money isn’t gonna see them thru, and partly because all they have ever known is work, and that is all they want to do. They are afraid of being idol and insignificant.

          The little woman’s mother is seventy-two and works part time so she can have her “blowing” money. She doesn’t have to work and her employer loves it because she will keep her hours under the 30 hour maximum on the insurance requirement crap.

          There is a lot of “old fart hoarding” because they are afraid they will live to their nineties and there will be no Social Security $$ left. Plus they see their property taxes doubling every decade.

          • Pass,property taxes and attempted repossessions for property taxes are just another battle getting started,that one will also get very ugly I believe unfortunately.

            • Oh yea.

              Then when eviction comes, the gov will provide free housing in the inner/concentration/city/camps.

              Daily bread & gov cheese provided, just scrape off the bluish green stuff.

        • Maybe,I actually have said to younger folks sorry,we and past generations allowed this rat fuck to happen and the bill is coming due in your time,the slow gradual decline went to a large degree unnoticed but now that little snowball gathering a lot of mass quickly and will get quicker,the powers that want to be need a distraction for sure!

      65. I like how my last post wasn’t approved. I am just saying that all of this stuff that is said will happen has not happened and it will not happen. Martial law and the banks taking everyone’s money will not happen. It just keeps being talked about by Alex Jones and all of the other new world order junkies. I know that the country is in debt and that things are very tough with the banks but I seriously DOUBT that the government will turn on the people here. Just doubt it.

        • I hope you’re right, but I am not willing to risk my future by not hedging against it.

        • Farm,the vice president of fed reserve stated that “bail ins”MAY be necc.,the speech is on the fed reserves site.Seriously,how much fucking warning do you need in that regards?!You are the deer on the road at night with truck bearing down on you,the driver yelling get out of the way blaring their horn,and yet,you stay in the fucking road!On a side note,up thumbed you,not because I agree with you(I don’t!) but because you brought up a very serious situation and I brought up a reasonable though irritated response,how much warning do you need,do I need to link the Stephens speech on Aug.17 of this year or can you do some basic research,the link is on past posts if easier.

      66. Ive been trying to explain that even though the mint has been printing paper money 24 x 7 for decades. The actual cash to represent the trillions of debt doesn’t exist. Paper money wears out and truckloads are burnt every day. Unless the mint starts printing denominations greater than the one hundred dollar bill. We wont be awash in cash. The debt is just signatures & numbers on paper the same as a car loan or home mortgage.

      67. How 1984 of them.

        Saving is now hoarding and let me guess, blowing it is now investment.

        • 300,blowing was a course the girls were taught at Beaver College!

      68. Our politicians are in the pockets of the bankers. If it collapses lets hang them all. If they confiscate our deposits for their bail-ins, lets hang them all. I do not remember voting for a law saying that a depositors money becomes bank assets upon deposit. The bankers cashed in a favor for that law. Current situation is the Fed printed money and gave to banks. Bankers fattened their balance sheets and their pockets with bonuses and did not put the money in circulation.

      69. The Fed says if you throw enough cash at the earth it will produce whatever you want.

        They may be singing a different song when Adam Smith’s invisible foot kicks them in the ass.

        Has anyone seen him lately?

      70. Read the exec order. Govt wants to use resources in time of emergency. Ok i get that. Doesn’t say hoarders anywhere in the order. I think the article extrapolates a bit far. I get the whole conspiracy idea but I’m frankly more concerned about the general public and the non-prepared people.

      71. “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson…” From a letter by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to an associate on 11/21/1933.

        “Let me issue and control a nation’s money, and I care not who writes its laws.”Meyer Amschel Rothschild (1743 – 1812)

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!!

        • And since the WAR drums are beating ever louder, that is the indicator that the ‘monetary reset’ is not very far behind. They (TPTB)WANT War, it is painfully obvious at this point. To wit:

          Europe Goes “All In”: Will Sanction Rosneft, Gazprom Neft And Transneft

          Until this moment, the main reason why everyone mostly dismissed Europe’s sanctions against Russia is that despite all its pompous rhetoric, Europe consistently refused to hit Russia where it would hurt: its energy titans Gazprom, Rosneft And Transfneft. The reason is simple: by imposing sanctions on these core energy exporters, Europe would directly threaten the stability of its own energy imports (Russia accounts for up to 30% of German gas imports), and as winter approaches with every passing day, playing with the energy status quo would seem like economic suicide. This all appears to have changed last Friday, when as the FT reports from a leaked copy, Europe’s latest sanctions round will boldly go where Europe has never dared to go before, and impose sanctions on the big three: Rosneft, Gazprom Neft and Transneft.

          This is what is known in game theory terms as a major defection round.

          It also means that suddenly the stakes for Russia, and thus Europe, just got all too real, as Putin will now have no choice but to really ramp up the retaliatory escalation, which following the food ban can only mean one thing: a staggered reduction in gas flow to Europe.

          It also means something else: recall that it was just ten days ago when we reported that Gazprom would begins accepting payment for oil in Ruble and Yuan.

          If today’s news is confirmed, Europe’s dramatic shift in sanctions strategy means that Europe’s embargo of both the US Dollar and the Euro will accelerate as Russia further intensifies its shift away from both the west and the petrodollar. The only and clear winner here: China, which will almost certainly step in to provide the funding Russia needs however on Beijing’s terms in effect making the symbiotic link between Russia and China even stronger, forcing Moscow to rely almost exclusively on China for trade and funding relations, and suddenly give Xi Jinping all the trump cards.

          What China’s president will do, now that he has all the leverage in the world to call shots both to the West, the East, and of course, Africa, remains unknown, although those thousands of tons of gold imports that mysteriously enter the country and are never heard from again, may provide a hint.

      72. On the 18th of this month, the Fed is going to see for themselves, just what happens when a part of a particular Nation votes in a referendum to Cede from the Union!!! The reasons include, government incompetence, Bankster theft!!! and to throw off government control of the people.

        Unfortunately, it’s not a State in our Union!!! The Union I’m talking about? The British Union. In 10 days, Scotland vote to cede from the United Kingdom. The Queen, and English politicians are shitting themselves!!! They may just loose 40 odd % of the United Kingdom if Scotland split!! Including there biggest revenue making honey pot, the North Sea oil fields!!! It will have huge ramifications for us too! Technically, Great Britain would loose there seat at the UN Security Council …… Meaning the US and France versus China and Russia. Our most important International partner is about to be wiped off the political map forever.

        The beginning of the end for the Global Elites is days away. And they won’t go with out a fight or an attempt to sacrifice another generation to a meat grinder with a made up lie to protect themselves. Time to make sure you’ve got EVERYTHING stored up, gassed up and finely oiled with a soft pull through.

      73. Folks: the endgame is near. Rome is indeed burning while its “leaders” fiddle. The world is fed up with the machinations of the TRUE axis of evil – US, UK & Israel. Russia, China & Germany will emerge as powerhouses. They’re fleeing the dead US dollar & installing the Gold Standard. Also they’re now trading oil using their currencies which will eventually cause an end to the almighty petrodollar. All these conflicts happening are about these issues despite what you hear on state-sponsored propaganda (CNN, MSNBC, Fox).

        Hundreds of trillions in debt, most of the population hooked on Big Pharma drugs, government handouts, gadgets & mindless, vile “entertainment”, chanting USA! USA! while our disillusioned military veterans commit suicide in record numbers daily…….shall I go on? The age of the American empire is OVER – DONE – FINISHED. Sooner the better I say. I myself have declared to friends & family that I no longer call this corporation called the UNITED STATES my country. It was usurped a long time ago, but the key years are 1917 & 1933 where all Americans current & future became property of the NWO cabal.

        ISIS? So let me get this straight: CIA (the biggest gun running & drug smuggling operation in the world, among other vile & sadistic acts) arms & trains Afghans to fight Soviets = Mujahadeen who become Al-Qaeda who then become ISIS. They will be blamed for the next major false flag event to occur on our soil, & I fear soon because slowly but surely 9-11 truth is pushing its way to the mainstream & once people find out it was a Mossad operation using nukes (Veterans Today has been blowing the lid off this) heads will roll.

        The only hope I cling to is that eventually good will triumph over evil. However, I’m not sure if it’s destined to happen during this cosmic cycle. The planet may be destroyed & made new once again until the human species learns to co-exist peacefully with both each other & nature.

      74. I really do not give a shit about what they say or think about me anymore. The last straw is that there is no way I can trust the government. On the subject of fault or whose fault is it. I am not accepting any of it. Why? Because every time I tried to set the record straight I was accused of being sexist, racist or some other form of malcontent. Well, Now you got it, Toyota!
        On the other side, I have been doing the things that have been on the drawing board for years. There has been
        changes as I go for what is on paper does not go good when you assemble. There has been additions to upgrade plans.
        Out of all of it I can say things change over the years. About a 30% change in plans with 100% improvement in proficiency.

        • JRS.
          From the article.
          Although Islamic extremists remain a major concern for law enforcement, they are no longer their top concern,” the START report states. According to the organization, threats posed by sovereign citizens include cyberterrorism, the use of explosive devices, military weapons, and biological, chemical and radiological weapons.


          The average prepper is nowhere near this type of stuff.

        • JRS,cornered/rabid/done being reasonable weasels not listed,am not sure if relieved or insulted!

      75. If it wasn’t for the fact that just few years ago, the stock market took a downward turn, businesses by the thousands were being force to go out of business, the American people would not feel the need to hoard the money. With that said, the disposable amount of money Americans’ have left after paying bills and taxes a pile of money under the mattress doesn’t even cause a small ripple effect!

      76. I am so sorry America….I did not realize that the $8.38 I have saved in a pickle jar was the source of the nations bad state of affairs. I will go out tomorrow and use it as a down payment on a new Ford Mustang.

      77. The Kenyan Usurper and the other elephant/jackass sock puppets know that The People have also “hoarded” “the other precious metals,” steel and lead, which explains their militarization of their local standing armies (f/k/a the police).

      78. Federal laws against hoarding are not necessary.
        Long before Wash D.C. gets word of your hoarding, your neighbors and their neighbors will hear of this scarce supply.
        Desperate people do desperate things, and those “hoarders” will have what seems like third-world militias barreling down their doors and shattering their windows.
        It’s every man for himself, if the situation is really that dire.
        Don Levit

      79. Does anyone have a favorite SHTF shopping list? I do realize this list probably is different for everyone.

        I am going shopping tomorrow and trying to add any additional items that might be needed.

        Are there any unusual, but useful items on your list?

        Any suggestions are appreciated.

        Thank you!
        KY Mom

        • Find a Dollar Store or similar, stock up on hygiene items, such as soap, toothpaste, toothbrushes, antiseptics, that kind of thing. You can get a lot for twenty bucks.

          Camp stove if you don’t have one, and propane cylinders to run it.

          If your budget allows it, get a cord or half cord of wood.

          Get to a thrift store, check out their wool coats, hats, working shoes and boots, and additional cooking utensils.

        • a few cans of CRISCO lard.

          it’s essential for cooking foods , first aid , lamp light , cooking fuel and heat.

          i have four cans of crisco stashed with my dry goods for winter emergencies and a box of 25 6in table candles i use as emergency wicks.


        • Tomahawk.

        • White vinegar can be used for many jobs – cleaning, etc…
          canned foods last a long time. wet wipes (baby wipes) garbage bags, duck tape, batteries, candles….

        • Sewing needles of various sizes and types. Useful and good for barter.

        • A boatload of good books if you have space/deck of cards/chess set and table/guitar strings ect.,things that will make changing times a bit more enjoyable,many seem to forget that part of life in discussion of serious issues facing us.

      80. saw this on a beat up old ford ranch truck rusty rear bumper today…

        “Monica Lewinsky’s Ex-Boyfriend Wife for President 2016”

        * not sure whether to laugh or cry?


        • I’m crying.

          Why just Clinton’s or Bush’s since 1988?

          Did you guys hear about the new Hunting Magazine?

          It’s called, ‘A Quayle in the Bush’….

      81. I thought Bernake said that gold wasn’t money……

      82. What money?

      83. Hoarding money, eh? WHAT money? Oh, that money, all the money I put on preps? lol

        I’m done playing the game.

      84. KYMom, I’m going to fill up those extra gas cans I bought awhile ago. I guess I’m good on everything else. Nice that we had a few days warning isn’t it.

        • Also, you won’t regret it if you pick up some more toilet paper! grin

      85. I am confused, If we are hoarding that means we spent money to buy those things . So the more we hoard (spend) the better the economy. So we are not hoarding we are spending.

      86. So Americans hoarding a limited number of physical FRNs are responsible for the economic mess, but the Fed’s limitless printing of digital currency out of thin air has no negative effect at all. Sounds like government officials need to lay off of the crack pipe.

      87. You will never, EVER hear this kind of content on TV: (the REAL CRIMINALS are in the District of Criminals.)

        Jim Traficant on VERITAS Radio | Amerika: Land of the Scared, Home of the Slave | 1 of 2

      88. The Kulacks were considered to be hoarders and so were the Ukrainians. The result was the Holomodor and the failed policy of collectivization, and the aftermath was the Great Purge.

        • Under Joseph Stalin, between 1927 and 1953, nearly 60 million Russians were killed : starved, worked to death in camps, shot out of hand, executed by fiat, or killed during WWII. Stalin was planning on killing the Russian Jews when he died in 1953, by working them to death in labor camps.

          Of the total 60 million, about 15 million were killed by the Germans during the war, the rest were murdered by their own government, government being what passed for the gang of insane political thugs that seized power from the Kerensky government in 1917.

      89. As others have said, our currency is a fiat currency. The only thing backing our currency is confidence, a confidence that at one point was mostly earned, but is now propped up by fear and intimidation. The confidence of which I’m speaking is from within, and without. However, it is the confidence, of lack thereof, from within that is causing our economy to falter. One thing that confidence requires, is stability. With this admin imposing more and more executive actions that impact financial aspects of our society, confidence wanes because those actions directly impact the nation’s perception of stability. If you are trying to survive in the business world, not knowing which way we’ll flop next, puts a great strain on decision making. This admin has given businesses no reasons to believe they won’t jerk yet another rug out from under their feet, so many of them just hunker down and wait to see what’s coming next. The incompetence and irresponsible actions of this admin are staggering.

      90. All recession since WWII up to the present one were created by the Fed. to control the economy. Recessions are the harvest time in which banks make their greatest profits by taking back real estate equity. Each recession kills 50,000 Americans by suicide, heart attacks, poor medical care etc. Up to the present recession 350,000 Americans have been killed by recessions. Banks know recessions are coming since they create them. Millions of marriages have been ruined by recessions. All this is in the book the secrets of the temple to read for yourself Was the present recession created?

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