Patriot Dawn – The Resistance Rises: “The Government of the United States of America Was No Longer an ‘Administration’; It Was A Totalitarian Regime.”

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Do you LOVE America?


    The following excerpt appears in the new book Patriot Dawn – The Resistance Rises, by Max Velocity. Max has served in both, the British and the U.S. armies, and also as a high threat security contractor. He has served on six military operational deployments, including to Afghanistan immediately post-9/11, and additionally he spent five years serving as a security contractor in both Iraq and Afghanistan. During his career in the British Army he served with British SOF (The Parachute Regiment), to include a role training and selecting recruits for the Regiment. More recently, he has served in a Combat Medic and Civil Affairs role in the US Army Reserves. He is the author of two previous books: Contact! A Tactical Manual for Post Collapse Survival  and Rapid Fire! Tactics for High Threat, Protection and Combat Operations.

    His latest book, Patriot Dawn – The Resistance Rises, is a step away from the user friendly tactical manuals he is known for, and combines the excitement of an action-packed fictional novel with real-world battle hardened experience in offensive, defensive and counter-insurgency strategies and tactics.

    The United States has descended into Civil War. The storm was rising for some time, a Resistance in the hearts of American Patriots to the strangulation of liberty by creeping authoritarianism. The scene was set. It just took a little push.

    A terrorist attack on the United States leads to war with Iran, followed by collapse, as the economy goes over the cliff. The final blow is a widespread opportunistic Chinese cyber attack, taking down the North American Power Grid.

    From the ashes, the Regime emerges. Liberty is dead. What remains of the United States of America is polarized.

    The Resistance Rises.

    Jack Berenger is a former Army Ranger Captain, living in northern Virginia with his family. Following the collapse, they fall foul of Regime violence and evacuate to the farm of an old Army friend. Jack is recruited into the resistance, to train the fledgling forces in the Shenandoah Valley. The fight begins. Resist.

    The following excerpt appears in the prologue of Patriot Dawn – The Resistance Rises and takes place just after a large-scale terrorist attack on Washington D.C.

    The terrorist attackers were reported to have been recruited, abetted, directed and sponsored by Iran, although the details were unclear and it appeared that an investigation was not the top priority of the Administration.

    How had the terrorists managed to charter this plane, which had apparently originated in Dubai on a one stop flight to the US, loading it with two hundred heavily armed fighters, without alerting any suspicion?

    However, the focus following the attack was not international but domestic, and the priority was the ‘safety and security’ of the public by the accelerated implementation of the massive domestic surveillance and policing drive.

    Fear was paramount and the masses were even more convinced that giving up their freedom and rights was in their best interests for their ‘safety and security’. Many internet bloggers and alternative media sites were describing the attack as a ‘False Flag’, abetted by the ‘Powers That Be’, but those crackpots were soon shut down by the Department of Homeland Security, in order to prevent further ‘panic mongering’.

    The attack also provided the justification for war against Iran. However, that war was prosecuted by the Administration in the form of a primarily naval and air campaign that limited the involvement of ground troops.

    This limitation allowed for the deployment of troops as convenient to the agenda of the Administration and the military-industrial complex, but ensured that sufficient active duty units remained available for domestic operations.

    The attack on Iran was however the final straw that preceded the total meltdown of the Middle East.

    As part of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, measures were in place to allow Posse Comitatus laws to be ignored domestically. This was activated by executive order and active duty and reserve U.S. Army units were used to reinforce the National Guard in operations against domestic terrorists and sleeper cells.

    The terrorist attack had precipitated the final mortal blow to liberty and the destruction of the United States of America as a Constitutional Republic. It was true that the erosion of liberty and the Bill of Rights had been going on for some time; the Constitution was viewed by many as a dead document, and the measures had already been put in place for the implementation of a state of emergency.

    The attack had been a terrible thing, but at the same time it was so convenient to the agenda of the Administration. Everything since the attack had been the death rattle of liberty as the police surveillance state was fully imposed.

    Due process and Habeus Corpus were suspended, and the NDAA allowed arrest and internment without probable cause or trial on the simple suspicion by the authorities that someone posed a terrorist threat; a system that was easily abused.

    Everything in society was now centered on compliance and obedience to authority. Questioning of the orders of those in authority positions was not tolerated. America was no longer the land of the free, but anyone with a mind had seen that coming for a long time.

    Anyone with ideas counter to the official line, or who argued or challenged authority, was labeled a ‘domestic terrorist’, arrested and interned in ‘corrective and reeducation facilities’.

    Following the activation of the NDAA by Executive Order, a state of emergency was implemented. It was necessary, because another terrorist attack could happen at any time, and anyone could be a terrorist. There was a lot of talk about sleeper cells and many citizens were arrested and interned without trial. ‘Extremist terrorist’ organizations, including Patriot and conservative organizations such as the Tea Party, were outlawed.

    It wasn’t really clear to the general public exactly what happened next, given that they only got their information from the Administration via the heavily state directed mainstream media, and the internet was now under heavy lockdown. However, the economic dangers that had been looming and fueled by the continuous policy of ‘Quantitive Easing’, or money printing by the Federal Reserve, finally came home to roost.

    The economy went over the cliff. There was much discussion that the actual precipitator of the plunge was the cabal of bankers who were the real power behind the Regime; they had pulled the financial plug, causing a massive run on the banks and hyperinflation, just like they had done in 1929 to cause the Great Depression. But who really knew, given the lockdown?

    The effect was ultimately to cripple the economy, destroying the middle classes. What better way to turn the screws of citizen compliance when so many were now reliant on entitlement handouts?

    The ‘progressive’ agenda of collective socialism was nearing its ultimate fulfillment; coerced redistribution of wealth, except now no-one was generating any wealth to feed the monster of the dependent welfare classes.

    Statist authoritarian big central government was the order of the day, even though those policies spelled the death of the country. Many ‘progressives’ yearned for that, so that the ‘United Socialist States of America’ could rise from the ashes.

    The government of the United States of America was no longer an ‘Administration’; it was a totalitarian Regime.

    You can continue reading the remainder of this prologue at Max Velocity Tactical

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      1. P.S. Filed under ‘fiction’ today, ‘history’ next year.

        • Might as well get that one too. Something to read after the collapse, if I have time between security detail and sleeping.

          • The best of the best con men. I mean the slickest and most sucessful. What does everybody say when the con man is exposed? ” I never would have imagined”, ” not him”, “how could I not see it?”.

            Read and study history. In the twenties and early thirties, Hitler was ” the Great Leader”. I’m sure most in Germany at the time, could not imagine their neighbors being gassed and incinerated. Oh, there were the skeptics and naysayers. They were eliminated first.

            Same play, differant actors. Always worries me when people put a “leader” up on a pedestal.Worship the bitch like a god. That’s not how we roll. I put no man on a pedestal. You are my leader because you have earned my respect.

            I am so tired of being catorigized as a wack job, extremest because my common sense views don’t fit the agenda. The constant pounding and insulting is wearing thin. It’s never enough for the other side ( and yes, there are two distinct sides), rubbing my face in their shit.

            first rule of gun club, don’t talk about gun club.

            M.L. M.F.

            • Hey Rick, can you imagine Kaytn? Can you imagine the Cheka, the NKVD or the GPU? Can you imagine the Holodomor? When I hear someone pushing the Hitler line, I know they are either part of the tribe or they are supremely ignorant of what really happened during that time period. I suspect it’s the former with you.

              • RE: “the Hilter line” Jeff says” I know they are either part of the tribe ”

                Here we go again. This is what 2nd amendment advocates sound like to mainstream amerika.

                • Ask for all truth about guns ban!
                  Why do we need it? To save life of children.
                  Why do we need to save life of children? Because it is bad to kill them.
                  Is it same bad to kill children outside US? Of course, yes.
                  How many children were killed by US military during “war on terror”? Answer – …
                  How was the Commander in Chief during past 4 years of this war? Mr.President of the US.
                  It is right to allow mr. President to make a decision about guns ban knowing what he did during “war on terror”? NO.
                  What the President of the US has to do when he is unable to perform his duties because of “dirty hands”?

                  • But of course, it’s GOOD to abort children because they’re “just a mass of tissue”.

                    RATS are sick in the head !

                • Wingnut: That’s been one of our biggest problems as gun owners; outspoken “nut jobs”. The only ones the media let speak are the ones that are Bat-Shit-Crazy which makes it difficult for the rest of us to have an intelligent conversation with those that are not. There’s always this conspiracy by the group-of-the-day; Jews, Moslems, blacks, Illuminati, etc. that seem to go with it. Couple that with most of their low IQs and 5th grade educations it’s no wonder the rest of the country thinks we’re a bunch of toothless, inbred Gomers living in the trailer park just behind the Walmart. These clowns are going to be just as dangerous as the peole the rant about.

                  • Well said, but not what most desire to hear. Look closely at everything that is stated, and one sees a serious problem arising, not just with government intrusion, but with many who live each day with the desire to kill something. This places them in the same category of those they despise.

                    It is difficult to be balanced with so much fear and hype, when hype is never needed if truth is told. Hype is for one purpose only: it produces revenue. it influences some people to begin to think irrationally, and it pushes some of these people to a dangerous brink.

                    We all need to be aware of what is happening…but we also need to be aware just as much to the tactics being used to manipulate those who are already at the breaking point, and looking for someone to take their frustrations out on. I pray we all look at these issues carefully, separate fact from fiction, and stop the violent chatter that blemishes those who are not interested in bully talk, but who act responsibly during some difficult times ahead. We are our own worst enemies, proven by the comments of a few. be safe, and do not swallow everything you are told without verifying what is real and what is hype. If we are not careful and use our words responsibly, we are contributing to just more confusion…and possibly more violence.

                    It is sad to say, but some do eat at the table of fear and torment daily…it contributes to already imbalanced people. Most are responsible, many are not and these are just looking for an excuse to hurt someone. Please look out for your neighbor as you do yourself.

                  • Wingnut/Gregory8: Looks like I angered some of the inbred clowns with the “thumbs down”. Do you know what these folks have in common: they all buy (At Walmart) the same birthday card every year that says “Happy Birthday Uncle Dad”. Having a two-digit IQ can be a serious impediment to clear thinking and rational analysis. I should probably stop using big words, maybe that’s what’s making them so angry. Sorry Mr. and Mrs. Bubba.

              • On target, Jeff!

                Anyone whose pseudo-historical analogy ignores the 61+ million killed by Judeo-Communism is, as you say, one of the Master Race or one of their useful idiots.

                “Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and 4 of 6 co-assassins were from the tribe) started World War ONE—25 million died.

                “Chosen People” (the 1933 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.

                “Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.) exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, Gay, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—more than 60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.

                The synagogue of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly 1/3 BILLION GOYIM in the 20th century.

                How many will you let them kill in the 21st century?

                Will you let the Feinstein/Schumer/Nadler/Levin/Bloomberg/Goldmann/Sachs/Rothschild/Warburg/Strong/Schiff/Netanyahu/IMF/BIS/Bernanke/Geithner/Emanuel tribe disarm you first?

                • If any of you thumbsdowners have doubts that the Judaic 1% of Russia (and New York!) ended up as over 90% of the genocidal apparatus of the USSR, read the lists:

                  See Part 1, especially “JEWISH TESTIMONY,” at

                  The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia’s Early Soviet Regime: Assessing the Grim Legacy of Soviet Communism by Mark Weber

                  The Prop-Masters–Perpetrators of the holocaust against Christian Russia transform themselves into “survivors” of “the Holocaust

                • “We hate Christianity and the Christians. Even the best amongst them must be considered as our worst enemies. … Down with love of our neighbours. What we need is hatred. We must learn to hate: this is they way in which we will conquer the world.”
                  USSR’s 1933 New Anti-Religious Manual in Hill, Kent R. The Puzzle of the Soviet Church. An Inside Look at Christianity & Glasnost. Multnomah Press, Oregon. 1989

                  Sound familiar? “Kill even the best of the Gentiles.”

                  “…although our Sages declared, ‘Kill even the best of the gentiles,’ and that, as mentioned above, the Rambam [Maimonides] states in Hilchot Melachim 8:10 that any gentile who does not accept the seven universal laws commanded to Noah and his descendants should be slain. These directives, however. can be interpreted to apply only in a time of war or in a time when the Jews have control over the gentiles.”

                  • Looks like the rabbis are working overtime to conceal the evidence of their Master Race creed.

                  • John Q is off his meds again. Dude, you need to go back to Al Jazeer and rant there. Whenever I read one of your rants, I look over there and will see similiar garbage.

                    Here is my take. Our little group of wandering minstrals has whites, blacks, asians and hispanics. There are Christians, one Muslim, two Jews, several devout Catholics and one Pagan. And we have all fought for each other and came to each others aid in real confrontations (not just PS3 fights). We are what America used to be. A mixing pot of ideals, cultures and diversity that stand together for freedom and the Constitution, and like a sword that uses different alloys to make it stronger, we use each other to make us strong.

                    We are ex military (Army, Marine Corps, and Air force), we are Law Enforcement, we are Fire Fighters and EMTs, we are gardeners and animal breeders, we are cowboys and cowgirls, and we are civilians who back up all of the above and simply love America.

                    John Q, your rambling simply divides and and allows us to be conquered. If you have every Jew and “zionist” killed then you may belong the next target group. That is how the NAZIs and every other totalitarian group has done it in the past, one group at a time and as long as they didn’t come for your group then you didn’t care.

                    Most of us here in SHTF are simply Americans who know a shit storm is coming and we are trying to band together, even if only online, and offer support, knowledge and advice to each other to help our little families survive what we all think is coming.

                    Now go sit in the corner and take your meds again….

                    Keep your powder dry,

                  • Like usual, JJsan, you are off target.

                    Nowhere, not even once, have I advocated killing anyone.

                    For crimes against humanity, including economic crimes against humanity, I have advocated prosecution of the guilty in fair trials. I have also advocated leaving the innocent alone.

                    What’s your problem with that? Did you want to let the guilty go free? Or to punish the innocent?

                    Go figure.

                • I am currently up to Chapter 4 on this guy’s book “Contact! A Tactical Manual for Post Collapse Survival” and let me clue everyone in on the fact that, squeezed in between some fairly decent tactical information, Max Velocity is pushing the standard Cultural Marxist party-line, and suicidal brainwashing.

                  In short, Max Velocity is advising his readers to ignore one of the absolutely most important, most critical and guaranteed-to-be-hazardous to your survival areas of consideration. That area, simply stated, is race realism and how critical it is for White European people to get their heads wrapped around that all-important issue and how lacking an understanding of it will most certainly result in the deaths of their loved ones and of themself, in any WROL (Without Rule of Law), post collapse situation.

                  I noticed that this book appears to have been first published in July 2012, which has to mean that Velocity was in the process of writing it during the year or so prior to its final release. Why is this detail significant to the regular readers of this website?

                  Answer: It was roughly during the period of time between 2009 to 2011 or so, where Great Britain (Max is a Brit) and France and a whole host of other historic White nations across Europe, were experiencing massive outbreaks of rioting, looting, arson, and assorted other criminality and the overwhelming majority of that violence and terrorism was being orchestrated – not by White European people in those respective nations, but by the hordes of incompatible and indigestible third world, non-Whites who the ruling elites in those nations have been stupidly importing into these formerly safe and civilized, White Western societies.

                  Therefore, I have to ask myself a question about Mr. Max Velocity and what his real agenda might be – besides selling books. Is it conceivable that Max was so preoccupied with his writing that did not ‘notice’ the massive levels of rioting and looting and arson that the rest of entire world was continually shown on every mainstream media news program and which was covered by every major web news agency? I doubt it.

                  This means that Max Velocity made a conscious decision to push dangerous and potentially fatal advice in his books, such as parroting the Franz Boas invented foolishness that ‘race doesn’t exist’ and that it is only a social construct and that race realism should never enter into the mind of a survival oriented individual, when forming their plans for survival in a post collapse situation.

                  Well, this kind of advice can get naive and gullible White European people killed in any WROL, post collapse scenario. Any legitimate survivalist who is honest and serious about offering advice to people about how to prepare for a post collapse, WROL world – and who did not feel any need to push the Cultural Marxist agenda – would not be advising people to drop their guard and abandon what is probably the one survival instinct that would most easily keep them and their loved ones alive – and that instinct is tribal thinking, tribal solidarity.

                  The previous history refresher by John Q. Public is both timely and dead on the money. This is the group who have been behind the flooding of all formerly safe, formerly prosperous, formerly cohesive and civilized White European nations with millions of these incompatible, indigestible, hostile and dangerous third world people – who, as we can see, are the source of an enormous and steadily increasing amount of ethnic conflict, ethnic and racial tension and spontaneous criminality in literally every historic White European society across the globe. The group identified by John Q. Public also controls the media and they use their media control to demonize, vilify, and brainwash these non-whites to resent and hate the White majority population group in each of these nations and to blame them for every failure they have in their lives. Here in America, Hollywood churns out movies like Django
                  Unchained that depict, glorify, and not-so-subliminally, encourage blacks to commit acts of violence against Whites living today for exaggerated and fabricated transgressions that were supposedly committed by Whites against blacks over 200 years ago.

                  And, Max Velocity rants in his book that his largely White reading audience should never, under any circumstance, factor in race realism when drawing up their survival planning?

                  Might Mr. Velocity be offering advice that is designed to get his readers killed? I think that is a legitimate question. I also think it is a legitimate question to ask if Max Velocity is related to Piers Morgan, who is another Brit who lusts to create a scenario where the citizens most likely to be attacked will be disarmed or relegated to using single shot 22 rifles for their self-protection.

                  • This is Max Velocity. I really take exception to this comment. He has it totally wrong. I am a US Citizen and a vehement opponent of Piers Morgan. There is nothing in my book that is based on an agenda to get my readers killed. That is outrageous. He must be misunderstanding what I write. If you read Patriot Dawn you will realize that I am an American Patriot. He misunderstands my comments in Contact. I’m sorry, but you can’t fix stupid.

                  • Max – I appreciate your attempt to set the record straight, and find it to be great news that you share the contempt for Piers Morgan that the rest of the patriot, pro-Second Amendment community has for this guy.

                    However, having spent a few years in the US military, fresh out of high school – and then having spent my entire career working on various military bases as a civilian, and thereby brushing up against the sort of human material that constitutes the regular military forces today – I can attest to the fact that the US Military has been thoroughly and completely indoctrinated and brainwashed with Cultural Marxist (Politically Correct) ideologies.

                    Here is an excerpt from an outstanding article by Timothy Matthews, which appeared on Catholic Insight in March 2009, titled: “The Frankfurt School: Conspiracy to Corrupt”

                    “In an address at the US Naval Academy in August 1999, Dr Gerald L. Atkinson, CDR USN (Ret), gave a background briefing on the Frankfurt School, reminding his audience that it was the ‘foot soldiers’ of the Frankfurt School who introduced the ‘sensitivity training’ techniques used in public schools over the past 30 years (and now employed by the US military to educate the troops about ‘sexual harassment’). ”

                    This entire article, which I recommend, can be found here:


                    I should also point out that the same ‘foot soldiers’ of the Frankfurt School have also been pushing dangerous and fanciful ideologies regarding the concept of ‘race’ and promoting the clearly false notion that all races are perfectly equal in every measurable way, perfectly interchangeable and that there are no significant differences between races in areas such as aptitude, self-discipline, work ethic, intelligence, behavior, self-control, and temperament.

                    The recent riots in the UK, France, and across Europe – all by themselves – provide us with timely evidence that such notions are fraught with many dangers to anyone stupid enough to embrace them. So does a cursory review of the FBI/Justice Department’s Uniform Crime Statistics reports.

                    As I said in my earlier post, I am only up to the 4th Chapter of your book. However, I will again state that I see tell-tale passages and phrases which were used in your book which mirror the recognizable agenda of the Frankfurt School and which are intended to promote the Franz Boas slant on matters which deal with race and to ignore certain uncomfortable and perhaps unfortunate matters which deal with racial differences in behavior and temperament. In essence, the Boas attitude was to pretend that such differences did not exist and if anyone dared to cite evidence to the contrary, then said dissenter was a ‘horrible racist’. Not a racist, in my book, but simply a realist.

                    My contention is that you, just like 99.99% of people who’ve served in the US or UK or some other White Western nation’s military over the last 40 years – were exposed to the same sort of Cultural Marxist indoctrination that was described by Dr Gerald L. Atkinson, CDR USN (Ret), and I want to assure you that I do not necessarily assign fault to you personally for having been unable to recognize the fact that you were being fed Cultural Communist propaganda.

                    I’ve found that one of the greatest weaknesses of White Western European men and women is their deeply engrained desire to latch onto anything that makes them feel ‘respectable’. Thus, when the Cultural Marxist infested mainstream media promotes the idea that Whites who engage in acts of what can only be described as race treason – and who altruistically devote their time and energy to helping other races of people advance their agenda – which always seems to come at the expense of the White majority’s ethnic interests – when such Whites are showered with praise and adulation by the virulently anti-white media, many Whites will decide that they crave that praise more than they feel motivated to work to advance the interests of their own people. Adopting the Politically Correct views on race allows one to been seen as more ‘respectable’ in the eyes of the Cultural Marxist infested circles of elites.

                    Someone once said that the definition of a liberal is someone who refuses to take his or her own side in an argument. I believe that accurately describes White people today who want to deliberately ignore racial realities.

                    Bowing to the forces of Political Correctness and avoiding honest discussions about race are extremely hazardous when writing advice books on survivalism.

                    That was the point I was attempting to make, Max.

                  • Important to note: the Frankfurt School is a golem created by the synagogue. Remember though, it is what they choose to believe and do that is the objective problem.

                    What most goyim identify as “race” problems are usually loose correlates, markers, for choices in belief and behavior.

                    What the Master Race identifies as a “race” problem, on the other hand, is simply that we goyim are not part of their human race, so their tribe teaches that they owe us no debt of morality, not honesty [Baba Kamma 113a], not property [Baba Mezia 24a], not even life itself:

                    “The best of the gentiles should all be killed.” [Soferim 15:7]

                  • Just ordered the book.

                  • Now there are conspiracy theorists and there are conspiracy enthusiasts who can find a good conspiracy in any situation in life. I have read all three of the authors books (just finished “Patriot Dawn” on Kindle. I find it amazing that one could come to a conclusion such as this concerning race. The author’s books are full of insightful tactical information that will be invaluable post SHTF. Your writing portrays intelligence, however the content leaves me perplexed and wondering. There is no denying that it is actually within our core and basic level animal instinct to inherently trust and migrate towards individuals and people who look like us. Sight is normally the first sense we use when coming across an individual or group and it is proven that if those individuals resemble our group then we are more likely to trust them. This instinct has evolved with us since hunter gatherer days and before. Fight or flight. Any difference be it appearance, values, language, culture, etc..separates us further from “different” people. Every conflict and every war in every nation or group can be attributed to a conflict of interest. Despite this fact, my strong impression is that this is completely non-topic. There is nothing in any of these books that say you shouldn’t consider “difference” or “race” nor does it specifically point out that these are major issues to consider. The point I took away from this book was simply avoid areas where you would not be welcome due to differences in race, culture, etc…

                  • Like most Brits!! Can’t finish what the started!! You will know them by their fruit!!

                  • @Max Velocity, You state that you are a American Patriot.

                    I sir refute that statement to the fullest!!! You sir are a TOOL at best. All you Military MORONS think that some how in your warped little minds that you are somehow more patriotic then the average American.

                    I say you are merely a tool to the Establishment a pawn if you will. Someone who bought the whole 9/11 false flag op hook line in sinker, which also makes you a fool. A women and child killer…. How many innocents died in Afghan? How many Poppy growers died?

                    You allowed yourself to be told when to eat, sleep, shit, think, kill. You sound a lot like a prisoner to me.

                    You have served under her majesty which makes you a trader to the US in my opinion.

                    You served under the Top 2 countries that have Invaded and Occupied more countries then any other in the history of the world.

                    I would be the first to commend you had our country had a need for ‘defense’. That however has not been the case now has it Mr. Minimum Impact?

                    More money(Trillions)has been wasted on this foolish notion of terrorist while our country sinks in to depression. At the same time taking away our freedoms for a false sense of security.

                    Then you have the nerve to TROLL the comments of a story on your book release ready to pounce on anyone who don’t fall for your version of things.

                    Well Mr. Max Velocity Minimum Impact I for one say you can go to hell. I wouldn’t buy your POS book even to use as toilet paper.

                    Any Questions?

                    PS: I suggest you look up ‘war is a racket’ by Smedley Butler. At the time of his death the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. Now he was a American Patriot for speaking up!!!

                    I don’t agree with all the race comments. I’m a equal opportunity person. I will kill anyone who threatens me and my family no matter what flavor you are!

                    I could careless if all of you thumbs down my comment as I’m not here to win a popularity contest… This needed to be said!!!!

                  • “On target,” Gunsmith! On this Octave of the Epiphany. You are so “on target”!

                    Sako actions are, as you say, world renowned. The Finns are indeed on top of the game, not just Sako, but also Valmet, Suomi, Lahti, and Lapua. Of mass-production ammunition, who comes close to the quality, accuracy and consistency, of Lapua factory ammo? Consider how quickly the .338 Lapua Magnum became the gold standard of sniper rounds against which all others are compared. And there is also the new 6.5×47 Lapua…

                    Simo Häyhä provided over 800 reasons that Judeo-Communism never prevailed over Finland—’nuff said.

                    There are, of course, plenty of other manufacturers of fine firearms and ammo, but I am just rolling on the floor laughing at those who “thumbs down” the Custom Sako Quad. It’s a versatile and accurate rimfire, people. Yep, those thumbsdowners are some people with a personal problem, but are indeed a source of great amusement. Thank you, thumbsdowners, now please excuse me while I laugh at you.

                    Ha, ha, ha, ha….

                  • gokill, (a/k/a, dipshit,
                    Keep on talking shit to the prior servies folks. We already have a divide between the libs (who hate the military) and us the Patriots. (your words sound more like you are on the lib side than the Patriot side) All you are doing is making people whpo served in a uniform stop trusting the folks who didnt and by the way we have alot more skill than you. Just because our leaders do idiotic things doesnt give you the right to call us baby killers. I would like to meet you one day and discuss your stupid statements. That will never happen, but I can dream. If you dont like Velocity, that is your problem. Leave the rest of the Patriots that put on a uniform out of it. You dont hear many prior service guys talking shit about folks who didnt join, but fuck heads like you give us reason to start. I bet your AR has an orange tip on ot doesnt it?
                    See you after the collapse.

                • You have to laugh. Anyone who thumbs down the Custom Sako Quad has a personal problem.


                  • @ John Q,

                    Yep, I gotta agree with you on THAT!

                  • John Q

                    Sako actions are the “actions of choice” for custom builders/gunsmiths the world over.

                    Sako produces a limited number of actions for sale yearly….precisely for that reason…and they sell-out within days, mind you!

                    The Finns…really know their shit!!!


                    In response to you referencing “Unintended Consequences”…can you visualize the world of HURT the regime would be facing….were they opposed by a few million…Henry Bowman & company types?

                  • Yes, indeed, Gunsmith I do envision such Unintended Consequences. Some of the more insightful prose sent to Feinstein included the rhetorical question, “What if only 1% of America’s 100 million gun owners, a rebellion of ‘only’ 1 million armed Americans, rose to oppose you?”

                    Unfortunately the Master Race has also envisioned it. Israeli geneticists are working overtime for two reasons:
                    (1) to attempt to identify the kohanim [Cohen], the priestly lineage necessary to resume animal sacrifice “holocaust” of the “unblemished heifer” at a rebuilt temple before ushering in the reign of “the man of sin”
                    (2) to attempt to develop bioweapons that spare the Master Race.

                    No Nazi was ever as obsessed about race as “the Jews.”

                    All those stored coffins have an intended purpose. The synagogue of Satan’s goal is 95% depopulation and to enslave the survivors. Prosecute the guilty; leave the innocents alone.

                • Anything dealing with electronics can be MANIPULATED, and it’s very easy to do. Ask any programmer or technician, and they will tell you.

                  It’s not done by the owner of each website; There are several articles about this; they use our military’s new technology since they funded it in the first place.

                  So the thumb UP or thump DOWN does not necessary reflect reality, 🙂 but it’s used to achieve their goals, and get people to buy into their agenda or not to buy into their rivals’ agenda.

                  • Pardon My Father, Christopher Bollyn

                    Pardon My Father, Christopher Bollyn
                    January 12, 2013

                    Catherine Bollyn started a petition on January 10 on the White House website asking for a presidential pardon for her father. Only 150 signatures are needed for her petition to be posted on the Open Petitions board at “We The People”. That is the short-term goal.

                    Then the petition will need to have 25,000 signatures, by February 9, in order to get a presidential response.

                    Please sign Catherine’s petition to get a pardon for Christopher Bollyn at:

                    Family picture:


                    AFTER THE POLICE ASSAULT – The Bollyn family looks for a lawyer in Chicago. Catherine, age 8, is in front of her mother. It’s not easy to find a good lawyer for such cases where the police are involved in a criminal conspiracy against a citizen.

                    The text of Catherine’s petition reads:

                    We petition the Obama Administration to:

                    Pardon My Father, Christopher Bollyn

                    I witnessed my father being brutally attacked by undercover police at my home on 8/15/06. He had called 911 to report a suspicious vehicle with three men wearing body armor prowling near our house. These men then showed up and my mother and I faced them on our driveway. My dad ran out asking who they were. The men wore no uniforms and refused to identify themselves. When my dad turned to get my uncle, the men tackled him and pinned him to the ground. One knelt on his head while the other handcuffed and TASERed him. Suddenly many police cars appeared and he was taken away. He was falsely charged with assault and resisting arrest. He pled innocent in court. The police videos were destroyed and he was found guilty. We have now lived 5 years in exile. I want to go home. Please pardon my dad.

                    Created: Jan 10, 2013


                    Christopher Bollyn and his children at Chicago’s Buckingham Fountain, August 21, 2006

           responded to Catherine’s petition:

                    Thank you for creating a petition on We the People! You now have 30 days to get 25,000 signatures in order for your petition to be reviewed by the White House. Until your petition has 150 signatures, it will only be available from the following URL and will not be publicly viewable on the Open Petitions section of We the People:

                • I will never be disarmed.Thats not in my dna I have lived in a free country all of my life, I am a free born man I take my Liberty seriously,freedom is and never has been free, prepare. The tree of liberty some times needs to wartered by blood.Jefferson

              • MY UNCLE DAVID,US ARMY, was in a nazi prison camp,and they were a lot worse then anyone has heard,the AMERICAN people DO NOT WANT TO EVER BE IN ONE,it was a daily blood bath going on,and the cowards who go to a FEMA DEATH CAMP will find out to late the same thing the people of germany did………………..

              • Does anybody remember John Ross’sUnintended Consequences?

                • Yes, I do. I have a hardback copy of that book and, despite the fact that it did have a lot of moderately boring sections where Ross went into really deep detail about firearms ballistics, historical events, etc., I stuck with it and was glad I did. The actual story he told was outstanding and its one of the best books I’ve ever read.

                  He was supposed to be writing a sequel to it, but from the information I can glean off the web, he hasn’t made any progress and is about 4 or 5 years beyond the initially predicted release date.

              • Hey Jeff, the peanut gallery has voted. I only used Hitler has an example. One of many. It has nothing to do with religion, or this “tribe” crap.
                With me it only has to do with being made defenseless and then murdered by those who are entrusted with your welfare.

                If it makes you feel better, substitute Mao,Stalin,HoChiMin, Chechevcho(sic), and to a lesser extant Chavez,Castro, etc. I could (should) have Wikied this and rounded out the list. But you get the point.

                As far as what the Left thinks of me? I refuse to join their suicide pact. They sound every bit as idiotic to me as I must sound to them. The difference is I am armed, stocked and wide awake. I also enjoy life, but don’t live in “Blissful Ignorance”

                Oh, and watch sunspot 11654.

              • Well Jeff, your history of Soviet intelligence agencies (secret police) and the atrocities they committed to exterminate those that opposed them (the Kaytn Forrest Massacre and the systematic starving/extermination of Ukrainian Jews) is, more then likely, applicable to what may be.

                However, Hitler became chancellor of Germany through legitimate means. He was a smooth talker who had all the answers and swore that he was the man to reverse Germany’s economic problems. The German people put the man on a pedestal and completely bought into all of his policies. He quickly consolidated power and enacted the Reichstag Fire Decree of 28 February, which suspended basic rights and allowed detention without trial. Unfortunately, those were only his opening moves.

                His sick, twisted “policies” (for the lack of a better term) forever destroyed the Germany that was and launched the world into a state of war that lasted 60 years.

                All of that death and destruction, of man and countries, all for a single man’s twisted ambitions.

                While I am not prepared to call Obama Hitler, I would suggest the parallels are uncanny.

            • Rick;
              we are with you my friend, the time is near when they will all see what we see now! just hope it will not be too late

            • Rick we have quit socializing with anyone who is’nt like minded. I have no time for the doubters that just proves to me they are going to parish. You won’t get wack job around here. Those that are not in the life boat now are not going to be. Try reading the 299 series books they are great and deal with folks with the normaicy handicap.

            • Even if it was a mistake and no correction allowed. Hows that for a Nazi?

        • Truth is definitely stranger and harder to grasp than fiction. We will see this play out the hard way.

        • It certainly isn’t too far from the truth. The terrorist attack that sends us into war with Iran will be a false flag attack. Obama and Dracula’s will stop at nothing. It’ll be history in a few months, not next year.

        • Sorry folks,

          Really another book review???????? Now is not the time to be looking at fiction. Now would be the the time to stand up and say enough is enough.. When does the maddness end? Does it end? When will people stand up for what our grandfathers bleed for????????? Sorry but I have had just about enough… Make our stand it make it count….


          • DPS: I agree, if people buy books, it should be how to do/fix stuff/food prep, etc. A friend threw out/donated 350 plus books to incl patriot and various non fiction, encyclopedias, and fiction. Some of us just took them to the rescue mission along with bookcases. No time to read much anymore, time to prep. np need cluttering up the house. Unless dvd’s are free online, I won’t bother either; dvds has been passed on to others. Chuck Baldwin’s latest post says it all on News with Views; we are now at that point.

            • LAURA M. AND DPS.
              I disagree.and i see daisy disagree’s as well.Bad books can be used for fire,so that the good books can be read by the light.

              • Don’t forget toilet paper.

              • E Books don’t burn well. 🙂

            • I disagree, while it is good advice to have as many learning books as possible, after the collapse these fiction books may be one of our only forms of entertainment. I recently read about the collapse of argentina, the writer stated that books and paper became very valuable. It was an excellent account of life after the collapse. With many good examples of everyday survival.

              • I really like this type of fiction and I will probably buy this book too, however I cannot picture myself reading a book about TSHTF after TSHTF. I would suggest books like Robinson Crusoe, Tom Sawyer, etc. Most definitely a Holy Bible.

            • Laura M,

              Thank you at least you have seen my point, Don’t get me wrong I have a a book case full of these fiction books. Hell I have read One second After And lights out 4 or 5 times, sometimes I read 300 to 400 pages a night.. Like I said I may need reading rehab, But really if I somethning just to relax I really prefer the Foxfire books or mother earth news. After all why not learn while you relax???
              Great seeing you online again I believe you used to post here last yr? Myself building all these damn cabins have keep me from posting as much as I use to, but a strong cold spell gave me a good break.

              Have a great day,


          • I disagree. I believe that there is nothing wrong with allowing our minds to relax a bit, particularly in times as intense as these. In fact, I think it’s vital to do so, in order to stay mentally healthy and at the top of our games.

            I spend a great deal of my day studying and researching and putting things into practice, so I enjoy reading some non-demanding fiction to relax in the evening.

            Just my .02.

            ~ Daisy

            • That’s not just 2¢. That’s golden advice, Daisy!

              Obsessive burnout is not good for anyone.

            • Howdy Daisy,

              Too right, the problem with attempting to remain in a heightened stae of vigilance for more than a short while is, of course, “Combat Fatigue”, something well-known and long-understood by those who have experianced such.

              Instead, it is neccessary to maintain a ‘watchful vigilance’ that strikes a balance between the two extemes, one that is sustainable for a protracted period. In those times when it can be done, RELAX, else you will be so mentally fatigued when the moment does arrive that your response will be significantly impaired. In all but close combat situations the military enforces ‘leave’ for a reason; the Human mind simply CANNOT remain monomaniacally focused on a single task overlong, we’re simply not set up that way.

              How’s your weather up there Daisy? I’ve been otherwise ‘involved’ of late, sorry I haven’t gotten around to dropping you a line recently. Our’s here is not good; as of this evening we’ve got freezing rain that’s beginning to build up on everything in sight, ….shades of winters passed….Yechhhh!

              • To all that replied,

                I think ya’ll may have missed my point. Most of you that know me know I have become a reading junkie for the last 3 years.. My point was not a a stataement for what somebody should read or not read.. I was a statement that this article is about a book review… Sorry but it is what it is..Over 3 yrs I have read Macs stuff my thoughts are to just keep our eyes on the ball…


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        • Strongly recommend Bracken’s ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. Fiction yesterday, history today.

          • Oh yes this is a fiction how to book. I have learned so much from fiction books. The 299 series books have a hugh amount of info in them. I make notes while I read. Whats the old addage truth is stranger than fiction… haha

      2. Chapter 2:

        The entire text of “My Pet Goat”.

      3. The truly amazing aspect to this is the fact that what they dream of creating could never last, has never and never will work, failure is for certain. The people who want this type of society are without conscience and have complete tunnel vision. They are formally educated yet they are stupid. What they will be left with is horror, chaos, a monarchy ruling the few that will be compliant initially. They forget who we are, we are AMERICANS, we have never lived under communist rule, we are not accustomed to suffering like a third world country, we will not succumb to their control, no matter how hard they try. They will be overthrown in short order because they underestimate the power of those who will never allow this to occur. Not a chance in hell will their plan ever come to fruition.

        • You got that right brother

        • Common sense and an understand of how the earth works will prevail.

          Tangents (like tech) are always short lived in the real timeline.

        • The most powerful weapon ever discovered: > a man with a soul on fire.

          > my name is legion, for we are many. expect us.<

      4. One of the problems with the masses is they don’t have a strong leader.
        The good ones were taken down, and the weaken ones are just trying to survive and sometimes are being manipulated.

        The systems have been infiltrated, now corrupt and being destroyed to replace with the new system. This is not just happened only in America.

        • NMBC said:

          “One of the problems with the masses is they don’t have a strong leader.”

          RON PAUL, cough, cough.

          RON PAUL rEVOLution!

          • Iowa,

            With all due respect sir, what makes you think a leader would make a differance. Instead sir I say just a single Idea would make a much bigger differance. My Thought and my prayers go to just one word ( Freedom ) It is a single word that our forefathers fought for and died for.. It is a single word for what my father fought for in WW2. It will be the single word for which I will fight for. Because if I don’t fight for it now my child or my grandchildren will surely have to fight for.
            So if a fight must happen I pray it happens on my watch..



            • Iowa says,

              ” RON PAUL, cough, cough. RON PAUL rEVOLution!”

              RON PAUL REDvoLution!

              RON PAUL (a career politician & his USEFUL IDIOTS), cough, cough.

              It’s just another BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION!

              • You can’t Bolshevik the largest standing army the world has ever known…the American People.

                • The socialists starting working on the teaching colleges and then the instruction materials. Now anyone younger than 20 years has been fully indoctrinated into socialist thinking and world view and they don’t even know it. Talk with a high school student of today. Ask what they thing about the NWO/OWGovt. Ask them abut their view of the US and our history. They are not generally patriotic and are just fine with the NWO ect.Those over 30 years old have a different world view than those under 20years. The 20s and below have been fully indoctrinated. Go talk to the next generation! That will scare the hell out out you!

                • The American people are mostly lost. They love their free stuff and are ignorant of just about everything especially history. Sucker bet to depend on them.

              • IOWA,

                This is more bull crap, and I don’t buy into your agenda.

                IOWA says, “You can’t Bolshevik the largest standing army the world has ever known…the American People.” “RON PAUL rEVOLution!” aka RON PAUL REDvolution.

                Because past events have shown us that it’s the indigenous population, not by the media nor their scholars or even schoolbooks.

                Using multi-culture groups as a tool for the divide and conquer technique.

                YOUR analysis is 180 degree OPPOSITE of what it should be. Anyone knows that with an UNORGANIZED, UNTRAINED, UNEQUIPPED, AGING Baby boomers with limited resources, it’s a recipe for DISASTER.

                I’m NOT telling what people what to think or do. I just want them to be very, very careful, because the media have been manipulating us for over a century. And I can tell the different between propaganda and the truth.

            • DPS you can take it to the bank ,we are the chosen ones who will make sure the children of the future have freedom,theres a lot of cowards out there,but even they will wake up when they realize genocide is the plan of those in power and its up to this generation to make the future safe for our children,BESIDES,we have guns and the children of the future might have to wait a hundred years to get free again,IF they aren’t druged into stupidly forever………

            • ~~Because if I don’t fight for it now my child or my grandchildren will surely have to fight for~~

              I say this is wrong–once freedom is lost, it will not be reversed.

              • JayJay,

                Really?? You think Freedom is that far gone? Correct me if I’m wrong but you still have the freedom to post here right? You still have the Freedom to walk into a gun store and buy a gun right? You still have the Freedom to walk into the store and buy what ever you want in terms of food right? You Still have the Freedom to search out news online and post your opinion as you see fit right? Well maybe you and I just don’t agree on what Freedom means, but then again isn’t that Freedom?

                Sincerely and with all due respect,


                • As a physician, do I have the ability to decide with my patient the best course of action and follow it? NO! Not anymore.
                  I am increasingly finding that the insurance companies will decide what medications are provided and what testing is allowed.
                  In nursing homes, the state regulatory board can veto my orders and remove the license of nursing facilities that follow my orders instead of state determined protocols, even if following those protocols hasten the death of my patient.
                  Regulatory agencies are mandating vaccinations and other requirements for their employees and insisting that physicians carry out these requirements.
                  I have seen my professional autonomy and freedom erode steadily over the last five years.
                  I am directly seeing my professional freedoms lost and it alarms me.

                  • The pace of such Culture of Death gradualism in medical care began to accelerate in the early 90’s with IPA’s, HMO’s, etc.

                • DPS – If I may add my 2 cents > Yes to all of the said “freedoms”.
                  However , all of those freedoms today are overshadowed by certain forces and authority questioning them as opposed to 40+ years ago when there was NO doubt as to the validation pertaining to each “freedom” in it’s true definition.
                  There lies the danger. Be clear on that.

            • A more important word than ‘freedom’ is GOODNESS.

              If you plan to be free, be GOOD.

            • DPS says:


              With all due respect sir, what makes you think a leader would make a differance.”

              My leader is Jesus Christ. I am a SON OF GOD.

              I WILL LEAD. My motto was given to me by Fort Benning…

              FOLLOW ME!

              – 11 Bravo

              • Iowa,

                With all due respect sir, I never did much care for following.. I too am a man that follows the teaching of my lord. However I choose to lead my own way thank you..


                • Understood.

        • WE must be OUR own leaders. Create a FREEDOM CELL where you live to thwart the plans of any Rogue Administration declaring war on American Rights.

          Organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, and vote.

          It is the power of one that will be magnified and imitated by others looking for a “spark” that becomes a grass fire sweeping across America, when the cry of “Liberty” rings and reigns once more from sea to shining sea.

          Freedom Cells must be grass roots activists, motivated to protect the Republic and the US Constitution, who will be activated by the Spirit of 1776 when the hour comes to “mobilize’.

          If you want “Independence”, you must act independently. 1,000 Patriots across America on any given “Sunday”, Sunday after Sunday, could bring a Rogue Administration to its knees within months.

          Seals always select their targets carefully to confirm the enemy before they dispatch them in the wee hours of the night just before the dawn. Seals hit hard, hit fast, and catch the enemy by surprise for maximum effect.Be “Seal” like. Catch your enemy by surprise.

          WE are all members of “Seal Team America.”

          • What kind of frigging “citizen” wants to live in a country dominated and controlled by a bunch of TSA types groping their wives ans daughters at will?

            Did you folks see the pig on the video f fing those two women at a traffic stop? wtf??? What mindset make them think thats ok? I hope, I pray, if I’m ever in that position, it ends really, really ugly.

            • That Video Made Me sick…This is what the Overseers have become, Communist with a Badge..This should tell you of the Mindset of which we are up against! If they want WAR! let”s not Fail to give them That what they seek! God help us all we are going to need it….Time is Short!

              Semper Fi

          • @Durango


        • I don’t like to be called by the commie term “masses”.

          I also don’t like to be called a “consumer”.

          I’m a productive USA CITIZEN for God’s sake!

          • Im a freeman!

      5. The “brothers” at my call center are getting a little weird lately. Not as much “brother” or “Obama” talk anymore. Too many “white guys” like me talking about not giving up their guns and “bring it on” going on. Most have felonies and can’t own weapons.


        • IOWA,thats really funny,but your right,thats the plan,there going to try to enslave the people they can capture in there fema camps and they will get a bunch of dumb asses who never woke up in time…..

        • Your observations are likely correct, Iowa, BUT this should not be about race, but about what people DO. People have no control over their race or place of birth. They do have control over what they believe and how they behave.

          Educate your brothers that the source of their woes is also the same source of our woes: the banksters and warmongers who think their tribe is the Master Race. The tribal banksters and machers would love this to turn into black against white against brown against yellow while they sit comfortably in their mansions or bunkers, but this is not about race. This is about GOOD AND EVIL.

          Prosecute the guilty; leave the innocent alone.

          • Hey John Q Public:

            “Your observations are likely correct, Iowa, BUT this should not be about race”…



            • IOWA,

              You are working so hard to throw people off into thinking that you are not one of them; it MAKES YOU look even more as though YOU ACTUALLY ARE (ONE OF THEM). 🙂

              Hey dude, I don’t really believe that what you said about yourself even true!

              • Hey Mac,

                MSNBC must be NEW (TROLL) to this site.


            • Iowa, it appears that John Q. (who I DON’T SPEAK FOR) was merely making an observation on the bankster tribe that is “fucking” everyone, regardless of race (although the White race is being “fucked” with more vehemence than the others, IMO), so your gratuitous “fuck you” and injection of obscenity into this discussion was totally unwarranted.

              I agree with you that Obama is evil, but then how do you account for the fact that 93% of the African “American” community voted for Obama in 2012, AFTER he had four years to reveal his evil to the world, and how do you you explain their dances of victory, gloating over the supposed demise of White America which the last election allegedly proved? Apparently, for them, IT’S ALL ABOUT RACE and NOTHING BUT RACE.

            • Iowa, I fail to see how you managed to personalize my comments against race-baiting.

              • Iowa, calm down man, don’t be so VICIOUS and Psychotic at the same time.

                I did not read any of your comment until you tried to sell me more of RON PAUL REDvolution (aka Manufactured Civil WAR)—- But you continue to send me more BS even though you do not believing in it. You loose control and now I become a troll???? hahahaha, what a degrading thing to be. Also I have no agenda and clearly rejecting your BOLSHEVIK agenda. I am not a troll and will never be one.


                • Forgive me.

                  • Of course, my brother.

                    Jesus saith to him: I say not to thee, till seven times; but till seventy times seven times. —Matthew 18:22

            • Some of my best friends are black and I dated a black girl. Nothing wrong with that. Just saying.

      6. …even from the ashes of the American republic we will be able to find alot more men/women of integrity and leadership then all the NWO can muster…we will go through hard times but we will win…even if we only succede indying free we’d still have won but it works better to make the other poor bassturd die for his cause…just sayin! Never even think about failing…live freeor die tryin!

        • Keep in mind than most Germans did not fight against Hitler’s rule. And they were not 3rd world. They were educated citizens. It took the Us and England to ‘free’ them from his grip.

          When the choice is eat or be ‘free’, I think most Americans will choose eating. I think that dying for freedom is only the choice of a few, not the masses. Even those in the military are mostly there for the ‘glory’ or money or social pressure from a military family, and not out of patriotic reasons. Some just like a legal reason to kill. Those will side with the Regime and be the hard core gestapo.

          • There is no America to liberate US from “Hitler”. WE are America. If not US, who? If not when the moment comes, when?

            Victory is certain. Read Washington’s Vision at SHTF Patriots. The outcome is assured. Spread that word. The future of America is FREEDOM!


          • My experience with Germans is they do what they are told without questions. Americans are much more apt to ask questions before doing anything.

            • Roughly 33% of Germans voted Hitler into power…33%! That’s all it took! More voted against him than for him, but the fact about a democracy is that the majority wins! Not all Germans were with Herr Hitler, they had no other choice. Sadly that is how POLITICS and POLITICAL PARTIES work…they listen to who votes them in.
              We all do what we are asked right? If we don’t, we do what we are told…just in the case of the Germans. Americans are no different psychologically (Stanford Prison Experiment).

              • Americans ARE different. WE were created in conflict and forged in rebellion against tyranny. Personal liberty is OUR DNA.

                The rest of the world plays soccer. We play football. They go to Wimbleton and wear tennis shoes. We go to the Super Bowl and wear spikes.

                WE are different.

                Not since Sparta has there been a nation so devoted to Freedom and so willing to accept their responsibility to keep it.

                United, WE are invincible. Engage.

                Engage. “VOTE”.

              • The “Stanford Prison Experiment” was merely a simulation and does not convey the aspects of a life or death situation in the real world.

                Yes people in prison and in the military obey orders because they must do so, understanding that there is a judicial process that they must work through and that bucking the system brings additional charges.

                That’s why young men 18 to 20 (college age kids just like those used in the simulation) are drafted, not older mature men.

                Young men are not (for the most part) mentally independent or competent for that matter as they lack (again for the most part) education
                and experience sufficient to dismiss authority figures.

                War has life and death consequences. Free men make a deliberate choice whether to be free or be slaves. “Spartacus” was a real human being who actually existed; as did his army.

                Shit can the propaganda and think for yourself.

                Engage. “VOTE”

      7. I saw the headline and thought it was news, not a novel announcement!

      8. I’m ready to go on the offensive.

        Any one want to go back East with me?…Firearms required. We’ll ask them “politely” to shape up or ship out.

        PS Can anyone tell me where the term “Firearm” came from, without googling it?

        • Native American term for the third arm that the colonist’s carried that emitted fire and smoke.

        • I dont know.. ahh a Native American Indian?

          You know like fire-water = whiskey…

        • Old English word, having to do with the arm that lit the cannon or something like that, the hand that held the match
          goes way back before the Indians were ever found in this Nation

        • Hey turd nugget, you’d make it twenty steps before you and your “firearms” would be confiscated. Way to represent the 2nd amendment you freak by going on the offensive. Everything you say and do would just add to the bittersweet ending of the law abiding 2nd amendment folks.

      9. By becoming laborers and workers instead of survivalists and homesteaders, we have handed over our destiny to the ‘Ownership’ class. We have become slaves to debt, industry and technology while those very things threaten our ability to survive on this planet.

        They come wrapped in a nice package offering slightly longer life, a lower infant mortality rate, but they demand in return that we destroy any chance for future generations to survive and continue life on planet earth.

        • @Timothy….Your statement that we have become a slave to debt is 100% true. And we will soon see what the Master wants as pay.

          PS. You keep mentioning Idaho. I live in Pocatello. What area, without giving a name, do you live. You have said Fair Grounds a couple times, thus maybe Boise area? I am running Robie Creek again. Boise is a great area. Good luck on all your prepping strategies….

          • Thanks, yes, that is a correct guess as far as the area.

            • Cool….Cheers, neighbor!

      10. Arm is a term for a weapon. Fire is for gunpowder. What’s your point?

      11. “Mac”: I just wanted to say that what you are and have been doing is critical and measured’ and highly appreciated.

        • Thanks for your kind words Don. It’s our readers and contributors that make this web site what it is.

          Thanks all!

      12. Not me.. Self Employed, don’t use credit, and can get by fine without technology..

        I teach my kids how live off the land, how to lite a fire with sticks, how to shoot, hunt, clean and preserve meat, recognizing what plants are edible, and which have medicinal properties.

        We home school, our water comes from a well, working to get off the power grid etc., etc.

        Yeah, please don’t put this free thinker in the basket with the media dependent mind controlled masses..

        • That was a broad statement concerning the majority of people in the developed nations. There are still few of us who can survive that way. However, even being self-employed, in most cases, your ability to find work depends on the debt based industrial system.

        • Hey I can’t talk, I work in IT supporting many large companies infrastructure. But I spend every penny I make getting prepped, planting more trees, more perennial vegetables, and getting my place fully self-sustaining.

          My last and most expensive investment is going to be to have a well dug.

          Where I am rainwater collection is not an option for all of my water needs.

      13. Has anyone ever heard of the paperback book “out of the ashes” by william t johnstone? copyright 1983. Its a good read with alot of good points to think about. A friend loaned it to me years ago. Hes gone to his rest God bless him. He was part of my “awakening” to whats going on. Also he told me of “The Road” book,which we both looked forward to a movie. I wish he was still around. I need a good buddy watchin my 6. It sickens me to see the direction it all is going. Im ready,but hate the thought of having to “use” my “preps” It will be a sad day……..I just hope those responsible in high places will get whats coming to them. Its 11:55 PM ,still awake………sleep and dreams are welcome friends. May God help us all.

        • The “Out of the Ashes” is a series and you can still find them in used book stores. Once in awhile there is a new one out. It started me to thinking about prepping and what our society has become.

      14. I peruse many “survivalist” type websites, and this one has the most schizophrenic feel to it. I wonder if many of the people here can tell the difference between reality and their fantasies.

        • Poob: You must visit some very special sites because all the ones I’ve seen (4-5 dozen) have a few folks in them that have these ‘qualities’. This site is no different. I love a good ” End of Times” book/movie like anyone else. But what people continually fail to realize is that most collapses throughout history were slow. The longer lived, and wider spread, the empire, the slower the collapse. Large roving bands attacking peaceful folk as depicted in many of these stories are not realistic. One word: microbes; clean water and proper sanitation are a must to any mobile army. With today’s large population there isn’t a clean water source anywhere. And when the power goes off and people start dying off it’s going to get a whole lot worse. Every water souce is a potential death trap. Without proper methods of water purification and immunizations against things like Cholera and Typhoid, these mobile armies will be dying like flies, exaserbating the problem. Never taught in school is the history of diseases and infection that have ravaged every army since the beginning of time. Hoards like the Mongols, Huns, and Goths had lots of clean water and still died by the hundreds from disease when the world was much smaller and very clean compared to today. These fantasies are fun but they are just that, fun stories without much chance of coming to fruititon. Relax and enjoy the book.

        • go back to russia!

        • the fantasy is between your ears

          • Loup Garou: I seems you’re refering to me when you say “fantasy” between my ears. I live in the real world governed by facts, not wild imagings of myths, legends, and fear of the unknown. Your emotional age is about 15 based on your response, far behind your actual age. Your very handle is French for a mythical creature; the werewolf. You seem to be the one with the “fantasy between his ears”. Time to grow up, move out of your Mom’s basement and get a real job before you hit 40. Good luck on that one!

        • Poob,
          I can guess that by your name, must be giving us a hint of your mindset, and well, i guess that sums it up !!! if you do not like the site stay off of it!! oh maybe you should try browsing through a fema camp and stay there!!

        • If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever. by George Orwell

          That is reality…

      15. Last yr on New years eve when the NDAA was signed I posted it was a act of war.. 20 mins later I got a visit from my local police.. After much talk everybody said now is not the time to stand up for whats right.. Now here we are 1 yr and 2 weeks later and it still goes on.. When is the right time?? 2 yrs ago I hear blood would run in the streets by G.C. and yet everybody talks.. Do we wait until our rights are gone before we stand up??? Not sure but it sure seems to me the time to engage is here. And no DK voting and donating is not what I’m talking about.. Today Tx set forth a bill that said enough is enough, look it up and if you agree then spread the word. If we wait much longer to take a stand then there maybe nothing left worth standing up for….

        There rant over,


        • You Yankees have been taking entirely too much crap for way too long. They simply have no right to use technology to violate your rights. The technology is not admissible. It only has become admissible because you allow them too. They are now creating things and using “technology” to back up their story. They simply have no rights to do this. NDAA be damned. Its an unconstitutional law. That makes those that follow it or enforce it guilty of treason. It is your responsibility to enforce the law. Start enforcing it.

          • @eeder….You made a good point. You actually did. Keep up the good work. PS, thumbs up was from me.

        • How did the fuzz find it out about your post so quickly? What did they say when they showed up? Did you tell them to leave? I can’t imagine the cops around here doing that and if they did I would have jumped straight up.

          • King krazy,

            Not sure how or why they showed up, I was ask to step out front on my home but of course I refused. As my home is posted he could no tenter either. He ask stange questions, he wanted to know if my own truck looked out of place, but I got the feeling he wanted me to go out front for other reasons.


            • I haven’t read any of his novels …. Anyone contemplating an armed insurgency against a Rogue Administration should emulate the successful ones like the IRA, and Israel.

              Yes Israel, not Hamas or Hezbellah, who lob a few indiscriminate rockets and mortars at the populace.

              The IRA and Israel target the leadership and their most vocal critics. The IRA with bombings and Israel with air strikes.

              The US drone strikes against terrorism, targets the individual leadership too; not buildings or low level bureaucrats.

              In a shooting war with a Rogue Administration, American Patriots should not target LEO’s, or military personnel for attack; and such attacks should be avoided if at all possible. Unless of course military personnel are foreign troops.

              These establishment elements of OUR national sovereignty will eventually side with the American People as Patriots like these have also done globally.

              The “hearts and minds” of Americans sitting on the fence at home must be also considered as any shooting war would also give fodder to a propaganda element introduced by an offending Rogue Administration.

              American Patriots and Seal Team America should be cognizant of how their actions will play out in the LSM and Alt Media. SURGICAL operations, historically speaking, have been the most effective.

              If, HYPOTHETICALLY, only one-tenth of one percent of American gun owners ENGAGED a Rogue Administration, that’s 100,000 American Patriots striking out at maybe 100 or 200 of the most ardent, high profile, gun grabbing globalists across the nation. Pretty good odds I would say. Even better if such an event occurred on a July 4th.

              God Speed Seal Team America.

              • After a shooting war such as has been described, Patriots captured and incarcerated would be pardoned by a Constitutional Government, just as Carter pardoned all of the cowards who moved to Canada to escape the Draft during the Viet Nam War.

                A precedent to create unity, post conflict.

                • Your statement lost me with the analogy between “Patriots” and “Carter….cowards”.

                  • In the aftermath of a shooting war between Patriots and globalist gun grabbers, which the globalists will lose using the strategy I believe they will use, there will be Patriots who have been captured and incarcerated.

                    In the aftermath a new, Constitutional Administration taking the reins of government will in all likelihood, pardon any Patriots charged with “crimes” by the previous Rogue Administration, not unlike the pardon Carter gave to those Americans (mostly liberals) who fled to Canada to avoid military service during the Viet Nam War.

        • I say bs. How would the local cops get to your place so quickly for such a trivial matter. Next day maybe but twenty minutes? Sure.

          • John W.,

            Who knows how they caught it so fast. And you can call it BS all you want.. It is what it is. Oh yeah and BTW Your small pathetic opinion has been dually noted and ignored.


            • DPS,
              Just hard to believe that they would bother you. Alot worse stuff is posted here everyday and no one I can remember has ever commented on any visits being paid. Why are you getting so defensive? People BS all the time and I asked you about your experience. Be careful, next time they may not drop it so easily. This NDAA law scares me as it should scare anyone who does not always go with the party line. I have little doubt that the time is coming where mocking Dear Leader will be a crime.

              • I have had more than a few visits from abc government agencies. Not saying i believe his but it does happen more than you think

            • Were you sitting naked in front of the window when you posted?



      17. DPS, Time to go “Bob Lee, Bill Longly, and Cullen Baker” on their asses!

      18. DPS, time to go Cullen Baker, Bill Longly, and Bob Lee on their asses.

        • PO’D,

          Thanks for the 3 names. I have to say until tonight I had never heard about these men. Have you wiki them? Made for some interesting reading..


        • I’ve watched hours and hours of video, listened to hours of audio and read volumes of news resports.

          Staged? Faked? Call it what you want. Neither term fits exactly.

          Here is what I know:

          Whatever impression you have of what happened at Sandy Hoax, er, uh, HOOK, is wrong if you got if from the mainstream. I do know that it was not an “organic” event. What I mean is that it did not “just happen”. There was not just an irresponsible mom and/or a mentally ill 20 something kid that shot his mom, drove to the school in a black Honda and shot kids with a Glock and a SIG.

          Fact: The Bushmaster was found in the trunk of a black Honda car. Fact: The car belonged to a convicted felon.

          The BULLSHIT flows from the state controlled media machine like the MISSISSIPPI RIVER!!!

          Fact: Multiple crisis actors from various parts of the country have been spotted giving interviews and posing as parents.

          Fact: “oops!” photos have been spotted by people of dead kids after the shooting and then covered up or explained away.

          Lie after lie after lie after lie after lie. Think of it, metaphoricly as a river of complete bullshit with lies bobbing up and down in it as if fans out over the landscape to cover it with the stench of tyranny.

          Nobody is correcting their information. Nobody is showing pictures of bullet holes or anything shot up be it bodies, walls, windows, nothing.

          Joe Bi-dumb says, “Nothing stirs the American soul like the image of the bullet riddent bodies of kindergarten children.”

          Fact: Our vice president is one of the most ignorant morons on the planet. (The fact that he was assigned to this “project” is a blessing.)

          I don’t know where YOU get your images, Joe, but it certainly wasn’t from things like “pictures” produced by the “media”. How many pictures inside Sandy Hoax did any of you see?

          Multiple parents report identifying their children by “SECONDARY MEANS”!!! Do you know what that means? It means they were identified by their clothes or the shoes they were wearing. Why did they do this? They never said. Another problem. The reason they didn’t allow the parents to see their children has NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED!!! They never said, “Oh, the parents just couldn’t bare to see their kids shot up.” or “The kids were shot up so badly, viewing their bodies would have been of no use.” No! None of that was said. It was all PRESUMED!!!

          The images of “bullet ridden bodies” is planted in your head.

          …in the heads of the parents. …in the heads of the public.

          The images of Adam Lanza gunning down screaming, crying kindergarten students is planted in your head.

          …in the heads of the parents. …in the heads of the public.

          But, we are never shown the evidence. No pools of blood. No bullet holes. No bullet ridden bodies.


          Until I see the bodies and the bullet holes, I will not believe. If *ANYTHING* took place (and I have my doubts that it did) it was wholly and completely different from what they are portraying.

          Reichstag fire.
          USS Liberty.
          Bay of Pigs.
          WTC Building 7.

          …and how many more? How many examples do you need?

          Your government is not your friend, it has no conscience but it needs your emotional and tax support. It will murder, steal, rape, destroy, bomb, poison and lie to get it. Will you fall for it?

          I will not. Gone is the day to believe ANYTHING they tell us. …and the Internet, to them, must absolutely be urine the the wheaties!

          This bullshit has to STOP!

      19. It seems that many of the posts have dissappeared! Poob had a lot more thumbs down and my post to poob is gone. What’s up?

      20. You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. An 80 year old woman can be stripped searched by the TSA but a Muslim woman in a burka is only subject to having her neck and head searched.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. You can get arrested for expired tags on your car but not for being in the country illegally.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if… Your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more of our money.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. A seven year old boy can be thrown out of school for calling his teacher “cute” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if….. The Supreme Court of the United States can rule that lower courts cannot display the 10 Commandments in their courtroom, while sitting in front of a display of the 10 Commandments.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. Children are forcibly removed from parents who appropriately discipline them while children of “underprivileged” drug addicts are left to rot in filth infested cesspools.

        You know you live in Country run by idiots if…. Working class Americans pay for their own health care (and the health care of everyone else) while unmarried women are free to have child after child on the “State’s” dime while never being held responsible for their own choices.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. Hard work and success are rewarded with higher taxes and government intrusion, while slothful, lazy behavior is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks, Medicaid and subsidized housing, and free cell phones.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. The government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide 99 weeks of unemployment checks (to not work).

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. Being self-sufficient is considered a threat to the government.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. Politicians think that stripping away the amendments to the constitution is really protecting the rights of the people.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. The rights of the Government come before the rights of the individual.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. Parents believe the State is responsible for providing for their children.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. You can write a post like this just by reading the news headlines.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. You pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big screen TV while your neighbor defaults on his mortgage (while buying iphones, TV’s and new cars) and the government forgives his debt and reduces his mortgage (with your tax dollars). Your government can add anything they want to your kid’s water (fluoride, chlorine, etc.) but you are not allowed to give them raw milk.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. Being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you “safe”.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. You have to have your parents signature to go on a school field trip but not to get an abortion.

        You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…. Using the “N” word is considered “hate speech” but writing and singing songs about raping women and killing cops is considered “art”.


        • That list says it all, pale rider.

          Those examples you listed have, for many, have become the new norm. I see it all the time around here. Someone will come ridng by my place of work in a $200 car with $2000 worth of wheels and a $1000 worth of stereo equipment in it. When they step out they’ll have $200 worth of sneakers (an outdated term for shoes, I know) on their feet and $1000 worth of gold hanging from their neck. They’ll pull a $400 phone from their pocket and call up their “baby mama” to ask if they want something from the store.

          Then they’ll go inside and grab a few things and some lottery tickets . . . and pull out an EBT card to pay for it.

          Their kids see this and know they’ll be able to do the same in a few years.

          I’ve actually heard, with my own ears, people say they would take a job as long as they don’t get too many hours, because it would cut into their benefits.

        • So who is allowing this to go on? Who elected and re elects the fools who make these laws? That’s where the fault lies with the moronic American electorate.

        • Yet you still have the freedom of speech to say it! Thanks 1st Amendment for you able to post this…

      21. I want to give you Liberals, Social Democrats, Progressives, and other coercive collectivists a final chance to understand the Freedom Patriots mindset. Your political agenda, enforced by government thugs, created us. WE DID NOT CREATE YOU-YOU CREATED US.
        Had you modern Tories been content to let peaceable folks alone to raise their own children, control their own schools, attend church unmolested, use their own property, shoot their own guns, pay reasonable taxes and keep their own wages, and generally live their own lives; there wouldn’t be a Freedom Patriots Movement. Thanks to you, America is now Land of the Free, home of the SLAVE.
        You’re probably too committed to hear reason. You’re probably too confident to believe the tremors. Nonetheless, for the sake of fairness and conscience, I offer this warning: DON’T TREAD ON US!
        In no time in history has an oppressive government been so thoroughly and fairly warned to back off. When you weren’t playing deaf to our pleas, you scoffed at them. We have not resorted to violence. We have only rarely resorted to righteous self-defense. No oppressed people with the arms to resist have ever been more patient. Your greed for Power and Control has nearly dried up our tolerance. AMERICANS WILL NOT TAKE MUCH MORE!
        Don’t expect us to merely whine about the tune you fiddle while Rome burns. We won’t let you strike the match. Your goons fight only for their next paycheck. We will be fighting for our culture, our rights, and our lives.
        You are making guerrillas out of whole families, counties, and states-that’s how serious CIVIL WAR 2 will be, if you continue your oppression, keep squeezing us-keep fueling our desperation-and we’ll make the first one look like a spit wad fight. Many of us are combat veterans, or have military experience. We have land, food, tools, guns, friends, and an unquenchable FIRE FOR LIBERTY.
        You don’t believe this of course, and that’s good. Because of our patience and long suffering, you continue to underestimate your opponents. You’re in for a rude shock.
        You politicians have broken your American pact with us. Government was to be a means to an end, not an end in itself. We merely delegated our sovereignty to Federal officials for courts, Congress, and national defense- not to be viciously ruled within our own homes, schools, businesses, and churches. You have broken your sacred trust, and you will pay a price far higher than that of tyrants. YOU WILL PAY THE TRAITOR’S PRICE.

        • Ever hear of “divided we fall”?
          Do you really think dividing the nation up into two opposing teams based on some subjective definitions you love to throw onto the so called “bad guys” is going to accomplish anything?
          Stop being exclusive and try to be inclusive.
          The more imaginary divisions you make among the people the better the chance you will find yourself all alone.

          • Look at the likes/dislikes: He is not alone

          • …oh boo hoo…cant we all just get along…cant you liberty lovers just submit to the evil…then the world will be roses and unicorns!

        • Well said Pale rider, however I say Americans will not take ANY more.

          Check out….our motto…NOT ONE MORE INCH.
          The 2nd Ammendment is there to enforce all the others.

        • Yet what you say…is it treason or not? I believe in passion, and it’s acceptable, but other than that you have no other reason to be upset other than someone taking your guns. It’s all talk, chill…2nd amendment is in tact. Besides, you really don’t have enough on your side to make a big difference. That’s probably a bitter pill to swallow, but it is reality.

          • change,

            It’s all talk, chill…2nd amendment is in tact. Besides, you really don’t have enough on your side to make a big difference. That’s probably a bitter pill to swallow, but it is reality.

            You sir are a coward… I was going to tell why I thought so but then it came to me… You simple put are not worth my time!


            • DPS,
              Hey hero, you fire the first shot and see how many follow. If you have any doubts, then that should substantiate your true inner compass that it’s not a good idea. I’ve served my country with pride and toed the line. America is stronger than your pathetic ideals of a war that you really couldn’t imagine an outcome. It’s ok to have anger towards a government, because I do all the time, but at least I can voice my opinion. I will say this, thanks for calling me sir, a sign of respect. At the end of the day, you want to be like me…

        • Yak yak yakkity. You are on the edge. Get some help.

      22. I am only one, but I am one!
        I can’t do everything, but I can do something.
        What I can do, I should do and by the Grace of God I will do!

        I won’t surrender, and I hope you will smile in my death!
        I will resist this evil regime until my last breath, and leave earth honorably so help me God.

      23. If you think Iran would want to go to full scale war with the US, you need to turn off your TV and quit reading MSM. Real war will be in Central Asia (for oil), Pak/India, or even China/Japan. 2 of the three for oil.

      24. Good Morning All,

        Overnight the complex leading segment of NOAA 11654 has simplified marginally (magnetically), specifically, a worrisome intrusion into the negative polarity leading segment of postive polarity flux has retreated from the advanced, deep pentration into said leading section. Additionally, at least one other area (small) of ‘trapped flux’ has subsided and is not now visible in current imaging.

        By all appearances the area of the spot (overall) has increased slightly through the evening hours but seems to be doing so, thankfully, at a reduced pace. at present the avarage 6-hour X-ray flux (1.0-8.0 Angstrom) has fallen to s value just below C-class. Further Flaring is possible but the probability of a high magnitude event is currently dinminished in light of these developments. M-class flaring is certainly still possible, even probable, but the liklihood of any subsequent X-class flaring is low and falling as of this time.


        • Translation (in English). There is a sunspot. It’s designated 11654. It bears watching.

      25. Heads Up, I was driving into work this morning and passed by the TEXAS National Guard building on Westheimer Parkway, there were hundreds of cars parked at the building and several soldiers standing around in full fatigues. Not sure if it’s a drill/meeting or what.
        Makes me wonder what they were all called in for….

          • Got it, BTW, it was an Armory building.

            • Texas Chic,

              What city? These are things that all need to know. We must keep on the look out for movement..


              • Houston – west side, across the street from West Oaks Mall. “Texas National Guard Armory”
                is on the front of the building.

                • TX Chic,

                  Thanks for the heads up. here in the top of TX we have been seeing alot of air traffic around our 2 dod sites but no troop movement yet.. But still watching.

                  thanks again,


                  • What are they so scared of?

        • They are going over to your house for beer and ribs.

      26. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I think the real

        power in this country is a “Army of 5 to 10, common,

        freedom loving people, in 10 million places”. All with a

        common goal. Protect and Defend the Constitution Of the

        United States Of America.

        Stay Brave

      27. If TPTB do as well with their supposed takeover as they have done with everything else, we have nothing to worry about. We are only in this mess because a lot of people have allowed the gov to do it for them, see how well it’s worked. I remember during the Rodney King riots, the CA national Guard forgot they didn’t own any ammo and had to borrow some from Nevada or Az. Yup, I’m really afraid of these boys.

      28. >>> “Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.” <<<

        -Sarah Brady, President of Handgun Control, Inc., to Senator Howard Metzenbaum – The National Educator, January, 1994, Page 3.

      29. As said before, I see lots of brave words and bravado, but I also honestly ask, “what are you wiling to do?”

        BTW, I support and congratulate Alex Jones for saying what many of us are thinking.

        All those tricked out ARs out there…are YOU willing to defend your neighbor when the DHS and ATF come knocking at his door for his weapons?

        Are you gonna fight the DHS and ATF when they knock at YOUR door?

        If even a small percentage of you are serious in your bluster, there will be thousands of Ruby Ridges, and it will be 1776 all over again. Are YOU in the 3%?

        • they’d shit if they were all facing a neighbors door demanding his guns and 15 of his neighbors came up behind them and disarmed them, wouldnt they?

          Im in the 3%

          and I believe in the 100 heads theory too..”they” better remember they have skin in this game too..

          • I’d pay cash money to see that VRF. Tactically of course, at that point the DHS/ATF folks would have to be given a “choice” as we cannot have them reporting back on the experience and location, so this becomes a what would you do moment.

            Many of our brothers will fall, but the coop currently in DC will know free men stood against a tyrant. I sense DC knows they are on the precipice if der Fuehrer uses Executive Orders, they know they will pass a line in the sand for millions and will not be able to return. Will those of us reading this blog give warning or fire on der Fuehrer’s minions at that point even if they wear the flag on their shoulder? Scares the kra* out of me to ponder. At this point, I like Charlie Daniels, have a flag on my lawn, a Bible on my table, and a 2nd ammendment utility toos in my house.

      30. Man only has himself to blame for his ills, pains and detrimental consequences. We have turned our backs on God and have the gall to ask, “Why is this happening to us?” “Where is God and why isn’t He helping us?” God does not honor the prayers and requests of those who spit in His face. However, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, if we take it: “(2Ch 7:14) If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” Will we take this way out?…nah! We are too brilliant and self-serving to stoop to asking God to forgive us and trun from our evil ways. This is why Prophecy will be fulfilled and the world will be in WWIII shortly. God forgive us for being such “Dumbasses.”

        • Well, the way I see it, God is here and doing fine. Shakespeare said it best…”nothing is good or bad, it’s thinking that makes it so.” I sleep fine because I’ve been saved and forgiven, and so has the rest of my family. I see your guilty conscience is in want and needs some help. I guess your dumbass should have thought about that before posting you hypocrite. World War III doesn’t scare me, my family, or my church members. If it scares you, then you need to take this up with God.

        • @ PrepperGal35. Yes I have seen similar patterns with high pressure systems that occur and then an earthquake in california. This is just the straw that broke the camel’s back as high pressure has little effect on a fault. Actually water, the lack of it or too much is something that can and does trigger quakes. Many times earthquakes in calif. have occurred during low periods of water, like in 1971 San Fernando quake. The release of groundwater pressure can act like a what happens in Long Beach 1933 quake after so much oil was pumped out of the area. It is like an exhale of the ground.

          The Sun plays a role in earthquakes during higher peridos of magnetic storms for one thing. The gravity though is only 40% of the moon. The moon plays a big role when the moon is at a sharper angle in the sky. When the moon is 4-5 and 1/4 degrees away from the equator point of the sky, the ecliptic, earthquake increase. Earthquakes also increase when the moon is at the apogee, furtherest points from the Earth. At the perogee however, closest points, really big earthquakes seem to occur.

          In regards to california and the west coast, the energy waves from these polar earthquake are still pointing here, and especially China and southern Japan. When these polar regions have experienced earthquakes in the past, these same future locations of big quakes within 15 days have been hit again and again. This is what I am really going by here. Like after the Carlsburg Ridge had it previous 10 earthquake sequences since 1973, China had a big earthquake 3 times. Carlsburg Ridge has had 15 earthquakes, that is what you call a swarm.

        • Howdy PG35,

          This is a second attempt to reply to your post…the first apparently got ‘et up’ in the server swtitchover…

          Great Idea!…as it happens, per a previous commnication with Mac, there is JUST such a thing coming….here. A Perma-Forum that Mac has indicated he will soon install which will be called “Earth Changes” (unless someone comes up with a better name for it) at which the regularly posted seismic and solar stuff will get a new, happy home!

          Given the oftimes rapid number of postings required to keep folk up to speed on the physical world this is, IMHO, a GREAT solution to the problem of trying to shoe-horn ‘everything’ into one place. Once up and running I’m sure that we’ll be able to set a variety of permanent reference links which will help everyone keep up with the (oftimes) arcane jargon that gets thrown about and too, it’ll give eveyone sufficient ‘breathing room’ be able to pursue various matters at hand in a more detailed and comprehansive fashion. See ya there. 🙂


      31. The Fall of the Weimar Republic it/about it..research it..understand it

        • Best book I’ve read, and I’ve read a bunch, is “The Nazi Seizure of Power” by William Sheridan Allen. Out of print but can be found on Amazon. Also “Berlin Diary” by William L. Shirer.

      32. @Klingonwork:

        Beyond any shadow of a doubt I will stand up and DEFEND the FREEDOM we have. I’m doing this for my children, grand-children, and great grand-children.

        FREEDOM loving PATROITS have come to the Bank of the RUBICON, will we cross or will we camp out and fish; I FOR ONE WILL CROSS, and take it to them tooth and nail to defend not only my family, but my neighbors family also, and all our FREEDOMS. How many will cross only time will tell. Those that will not cross, will also find that they too will have to fight, like it or not, because there will be absolutely no place to hide.


        • Executive Orders are the Rubicon for me…what say you?

          • Klingonwork: AMEN!

      33. Riot Breaks Out At Housing Assistance Event In Metro Detroit..According to reports, only 1,000 vouchers were available for distribution. An estimated 3,000 to 4,000 people were in attendance.

        When it came time for the vouchers to be distributed, police said there was a mad rush for the door, with people jockeying for position to be the first inside the building. Officers tried to control the crowd, but couldn’t. Fearing the situation was more than they could handle, event organizers shut the entire thing down and turned off the lights inside the building. Witnesses say that’s when things really got ugly.

        Star Lee, of Romulus, described the scene as complete chaos.

        • This is why so many Govt. agencies bought so much ammo. It will only get worse.

      34. I’m probably one of the few people on here that actually purchased this book and read it last night. I posted my take on it (not good) and it appeared for a while, but has now disappeared. So much for free speech and equal access on this site. Mac, I’m ashamed of you.

        • if you posted a review in the last 12 hours it is possible that it was lost during the server migration… there was a mistake in one of our ip routing files that did not get resolved until this morning. some parts of the country saw one website (old server) while others were seeing the new server version. That being said, comments posted on the ‘old’ version were likely lost when the new routing tables took over… unfortunately, recovering those now may prove a bit difficult, but if we can recover them we will post them.

          No grand conspiracy to silence your book review or other comments… just a technical error on our part during what was otherwise a smooth transition to a new super powered Storm server.

          You can feel free to repost that or another review now, as everything is running on the new server / ip addresses.

          Apologies to those who took the time to contribute a comment and may have lost it during the switchover – I think somewhere in the area of 20 to 50 comments may have been lost.



          • O GAH!!!

            I typd 8 postes yestordaye und onleyy 1 gott pute up!!!!

            Dange it alll TO HELLE!!!!!

            I tiped bout a bigg yellah dogg I founde in a dytche sitin in da shayde dat I namd
            Obammy und thee olde lybrari women dat done meke me leeve thee lybrari wen I bbrung mi snake incide she done kik me owt und was all angri like

            I fid dat ole yelleh dogg sum snake jerki und Gabe em a gud barberin

            • @Warlord Elvis

              Could you learn to bloody spell, please? Your post reads like a teenager’s text message. Whatever you are trying to say is incoherent or abbreviated into oblivion.

              Perhaps your time would be better spent learning to read and write before voicing your illegible opinions.

              My intention is not to silence or be nasty. However, your writing is so bad you may as well not bother at all…

              • I think Elvis is just making fun of us. What do you want to bet that Elvis is a gay, black, east coast liberal. He won’t be laughing at us in the end. In fact, he won’t last long after the collapse. I can tell that he hasn’t done a thing to help himself. Hey Elvis, instead of mocking preppers why not spend your time collecting things you will need. You and your east coast liberal buddies better look out.

          • Ahh that answeres it.

            still gotta say, Thanks Mac for all you do

      35. In the coming New Year, 2013, both Groundhog Day and the State of the Union address will occur on the same day.

        This is an ironic juxtaposition of events. One involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to an insignificant creature of little intelligence for prognostication.

        The other involves a groundhog.

        • It would be more appropriate to have the State of the Disunion held on April Fools Day. You would have to be a fool to believe one word of what is said.

      36. Five surgeons from big cities are discussing who makes the best patients to operate on.

        The first surgeon, from New York, says, ‘I like to see accountants on my operating table
        because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.’

        The second, from Chicago, responds, ‘Yeah, but you should try electricians!
        Everything inside them is color coded.’

        The third surgeon, from Dallas, says, ‘No, I really think librarians are the best,
        everything inside them is in alphabetical order.’

        The fourth surgeon, from Los Angeles chimes in: ‘You know, I like construction workers…
        Those guys always understand when you have a few parts left over.’

        But the fifth surgeon, from Washington, DC shut them all up when he observed: ‘You’re all wrong.

        Politicians are the easiest to operate on.
        There’s no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains, and no spine.

        Plus, the head and the a** are interchangeable.’

      37. Looks like a good read. I enjoy the survialist in TEOTWAWKI genre. They are usually quick and easy reads full of useful apllicable information.

        Here’s some good reads if anybody is interested. I’m sure just about everybody has read or heard of these here!

        Patriots- Rawles
        Holding Their Own Series- Joe Nobody
        Lights Out- David Crawford
        77 Days in Septmeber- Gorham
        Black List- Brad Thor*
        Full Black- Brad Thor*
        Great and The Terrbile Series- Chris Stewart*
        Indivisible- Grice

        Last but not least the scariest book i’ve ever read.

        One Second After- Willian Forstchen

        Completely off topic but please look up Hawaii’s Rep. Colleen Hanabusa on Bill O’reilly last night. Oreilly destroyed her and her response to everything will make your head spin.

        My wife looked at me and said ” you always said Liberalism is a mental disorder and I always dismissed you but after watching that woman I know exactly what you meant, she’s f***ing crazy”.

        Here’s a link, it’s a good laugh too!

        • I am re-reading some of the books by Allen w. Eckert.

          Just finished Wilderness Empire and A Sorrow In Our Hearts: The Life Of Tecumseh.

          Now getting back into That Dark And Bloody River: Chronicals of the Ohio River Valley.

      38. Check out The White Horse Inn blog out of Escondido, California (affiliated with Westminster Seminary CA and Michael Horton). A LOT of good listening (weekly podcasts) and reading (Modern Reformation magazine articles) on this website. Justification of the wicked (me, you) is the message of hope, no matter what happens to America in our day or the next. The “bride” (of every nation, tribe and tongue) transcends culture and she awaits her groom, who will return for her. Sola Scriptura! Sola Fide! Sola Gratia! Sola Christus! Sola Deo Gloria!

      39. Iowa…

        Land of Children of the Corn, Field of Dreams, and The Crazies…

        Downtown Des Moines Iowa – Anti Zombie Iowa Militia in action

      40. SIMPLE TRUTH 1

        Lovers help each other undress before sex.

        However after sex, they always dress on their own.

        Moral of the story: In life, no one helps you once you’re screwed.

        SIMPLE TRUTH 2

        When a lady is pregnant, all her friends touch the stomach and say, “Congrats”.

        But, none of them come and touch the man’s penis and say, “Good job”.

        Moral of the story: “Hard work is never appreciated.”


        1. Money cannot buy happiness, but it’s more comfortable to cry in a
        Corvette than on a bicycle.

        2. Forgive your enemy, but remember the ass-hole’s name.

        3. If you help someone when they’re in trouble, they will remember you
        when they’re in trouble again.

        4. Many people are alive only because it’s illegal to shoot them.

        5. Alcohol does not solve any problems, but then neither does milk.

        Condoms don’t guarantee safe sex.
        A friend of mine was wearing one, when he was shot by the woman’s husband.

        • @ PR,

          Oh Brother…..SO right on every count… 🙂

        • Who are you? Who are you… really?

          Well, it really doesn’t matter, does it?

          • I would like to congratulate Ted Kennedy for setting a new record for sobriety.

            3 years, 4 months, 20 days, not counting today which isn’t over yet.

      41. Everyone check this out. Direct link: Precrime is one of the most bogus concepts I’ve ever seen and will never fly. Daisy, I’m with you about letting our minds relax a bit on occasion. It does help you to keep your sanity. I’ve got a shitload of good old-fashioned books myself and that will be most valuable in the post-SHTF world. KySSG, I see the same things you mentioned here in memphis all the time. i didn’t know you could still work and get some “benefits”. Disgusting. Braveheart

        • Yes I have heard the same thing out of the mouth of a “benifit recipient”

          “Oh I cant take the job if its over X amount of hours per week” I forget the number of hours but its up there.Might have even been based on pay scale too(after he said it my head almost exploded and I couldnt remeber the rest of the conversation)

          so they could not only get their full bennies, and make probably the same in hours worked as wages..F-ing sickning, if you ask me.

          Most of them are too lazy to even try, but those that really work the system do it, and live better than you and I.

          I was talking to a girl about 10 or 12 years ago, and she was a disability reciever..she proved to them she was too stupid to work, or hold down a job..and she was proud of it, and was able to fool them, and got it for her and her (who knows who the daddy was ) Kid..

          Im convinced there are tons of this type of people out there red thimbing posts like this, because it is becoming a threat to their lazy ass existance

        • Howdy, braveheart. Just got home from work, and had to check in so I could catch up.

          Memphis, eh? Passed through there years ago on my way to Fort Hood. Didn’t see much, but what I did see didn’t seem too bad. However, I’ve heard some of the stories. Guess it’s like most cities; good its good parts and bad parts.

          I’ve got tons of books, and enjoy reading for a while after work to wind down. Got the whole series of Jack Reacher novels by Lee Child. Good reading.

          Stephen Hunter wrote “Point of Impact”, and introduced Bob Lee Swagger. There’s several other ones with Bob Lee as the main character. My favorites are “Time to Kill”, and “Black Light”. Borrowed the others from the library, but weren’t as good as those two, IMO. He also wrote some others with Earl Swagger, Bob Lee’s daddy. Great books.

          David Morrell, author of “First Blood”. If you want a book to keep you turning pages, it’s a good one. Set in Kentucky, too.

          Well, night all. Catch up with ya’ll in the morning.

      42. They are poping up all over//Wyoming..Kentucky..any more i dont know about yet?

        Jackson County Kentucky Sheriff Denny Peyman is making it clear that no law that violates the Constitution will be upheld in his county

        oh yeah , maybe this is that Sheriff thing I have head about,,where they are the end say in thier county..even over the feds..hahahaha,,suck on this you Traitors

        any of the Sherrifs that make a stand need to know we are behind them so it will snow ball into all of the counties of every dam state..comon people this is our chance to nuter the dam president and his gun grabbers

        Stand Behind and beside your Sheriffs, the more that see this the more that are going to step up or grow balls.

        And far from worrying about repercussions for doing this, Peyman sees the gun control push as a sign of weakness that will crumble in the face of real opposition: “Just a few of us have to be willing to stand up to political opposition putting our people at risk. The other side will back down.”

        • Its Not Me, that’s good to know. I only hope the sheriff here in my county in Kentucky will stand up like the Jackson County sheriff. I’ve spoken to him on many occasions, and he seems like a really, down to earth kind of guy. Just a good ol’ country boy, really.


          Kentucky Sheriff to Obama: No Gun Control in My County—
          Jackson County Kentucky Sheriff Denny Peyman is making it clear that no law that violates the Constitution will be upheld in his county.

          This especially applies to new gun control edicts Obama & Co. are trying to push onto the American people.

          Said Peyman: “My office will not comply with any federal action which violates the United States Constitution or the Kentucky Constitution which I swore uphold.”

          And far from worrying about repercussions for doing this, Peyman sees the gun control push as a sign of weakness that will crumble in the face of real opposition: “Just a few of us have to be willing to stand up to political opposition putting our people at risk. The other side will back down.”

          Ladies and Gentlemen, we have found a patriot. And his name is Sheriff Denny Peyman

      43. The “progressive” politician, a cancer on Liberty
        This is the kind of politician that appoints extreme “progressive” judges responsible for 56% of Violent Crime from Chronic repeat offenders, releasing them back on the public to commit more violent crime. There are not Citizen Review boards for unaccountable Judges and Psychiatrists unlike Police.
        This is the kind of Politician that takes money from big pharmaceutical companies, while their unaccountable psychiatrists prescribe Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Lexapro, Effexor, Celexa, Ritalin and many other antidepressants and psychotropic drugs to almost every single teen or adult involved in a mass shooting, with absolute zero oversight on what those teens are around, while under the influence, IE; weapons of all kinds, cars, other mixed drugs or alcohol, machinery, etc. They hide accountability with Dr. /Patient confidentiality, so they do not have to report the mental state to the FBI to be able to actually stop the mental patients from getting hold of weapons they should not be in possession of.
        This is the kind of politician that enjoys armed security around them in public, in their private schools, places of work and places where their money is kept safely, but like the Cesare Borgia rulers of Europe breaking Federal laws; while you law abiding should be limited, even after background checks and hundreds of hours of training, in their opinion.
        This is the kind of politician, turning local police into standing armies, which is what the Bill of Rights and Constitution was made to defend against, at the same time supposed to be protecting individuals the right to keep and bear arms, with the Second amendment the only amendment in the constitution with the words, “shall not be infringed.” Hamilton & Madison specifically created the Bill of Rights, to protect against the abuse of power by the Executive and Legislative branches. FBI are not standing Armies yet they use “military” style weapons, The National Forest Service has AR-15 like assault weapons, Treasury Department, The law enforcement group of the DOE have them, The BLM, the ATF, the Secretary of state issues permission to non-citizens for full automatic weapons while traveling inside U.S. under the diplomatic title, U.S. Marshal service have “assault” weapons, State and local law enforcement. These groups have no special rights under the Constitution for “military” style weapons, yet they carry them, while not being a standing army. Why is their safety put above the safety of those of the average citizens, that face criminals and gangs armed as well as any military with small arms?
        This is the kind of politician is creating “gun free” zones, where 99% of these mass shootings occur. They never answer any of the serious questions about their own failures to secure the public from criminals and mental patients their appointed judge’s release. They never answer how killing Liberty for the law abiding stops the mentally deranged drug cartels and sorted violent chronic criminals will give up their illegal “assault” weapons or high capacity magazines. They never answer the question why so many agencies have become standing armies, completely contrary to the U.S. Constitution. If you think they are justified to carry “military style” guns and not the average law abiding citizen, then you all need to open the Federalist papers and Constitution and read them.
        This is the kind of politician claiming to worry about children, while dragging every single taxpayer into the bedroom, to pay for someone’s sexual behavior with their tax money for tax funded abortions.
        This is the kind of politician using skewed statistics that lump in law abiding Concealed firearms holders that have FBI background checks hundreds of hours of training in with drug related crime, gangs, at risk homes, bail bonds agents, and those that break gun laws or laws in general.
        When is the electorate going to hold the “progressive” Politician opportunists, Judges, Lawyers and Psychiatrists accountable for the blood on their hands?

        • @Don T


          “They hide accountability with Dr. /Patient confidentiality so they do not have to report the mental state to the FBI to be able to actually stop the mental patients from getting hold of weapons they should not be in possession of”


          This is a very slippery slope that you are traversing Don. You/we must tread with caution. Under your gun control system, anyone supporting the Constitution could potentially be labelled “mentally unstable” or “insane” by the very psychiatric profession you seek to further empower. Will taking away patient doctor confidentiality really solve anything or will it just further empower the state?

          WHO will determine WHOM is “mentally fit” to possess a firearm? A State sponsored/licensed/registered medical practitioner? And how would you ever prove otherwise?

          Can you see the logical flaw in the argument of enacting laws that deny “mentally unstable” persons from possessing a firearm? Who decides this? What is your definition of mentally unstable? What is the MSM definition of mentally unstable?

          I’m willing to bet that Preppers and Constitutionalists will be lobbed in the category of “mentally unstable” under such a system.

          A very slippery slope indeed Don T. Have you put much thought into your proposition? Or has someone else put that stupid idea in your head and you are merely parroting the statement?

          • Not to mention this completely violates the notion of Innocent until proven guilty. Once upon a time I took some of those prescription drugs but I managed to not commit mass (or any other type of) murder while in posession of guns. bottom line is – shall not be infringed and innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.






        • Racist comment, no real need to reply to your actual stupidity! I think it’s neat that you can actually shit words though!

        • Thanks for saying what we are all thinking.
          I’m tired of the politically correct.
          In my own field…when I need to get something done.. In don’t look to the minorities.
          They have zero drive and focus.

          • Tell that to Frederick Douglass, Charles Drew, Carlos Santana, George Washington Carver, Salma Hayek, Kareem Abdul Jabaar, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, or any other person with black or brown skin that doesn’t fit your stupid racist stereotype.

            No, we aren’t all thinking what you’re saying. Only you idiot racists are saying what you’re thinking. You have neither intelligence nor character to rise above being the filthy animals you accuse others of being.

            • What did any of those people do for the good of humanity.


        • Eisenkreutz,

          Speak for yourself ass wipe, it’s creeps like you who give us all a bad name.

          • Maybe I should call myself Captain Obvious.

            • Or captain dumbass. It fits better.

        • I’ve seen the sum total of your stupidity. They’re dirty animals but you approve of having sex with them. I guess that make you a devotee of bestiality. Now who’s the dirty animal? You verbalize nothing for me, idiot. Racist dipshit.

          • Being a racist is not an indicator of intelligence. It may very well be an indicator of life experience.

            I havent had a white girlfriend in many years. I like the Mexicans. God always destined us to mate with them.




          • Eisenkreutz,

            You are disgusting and ignorant.

            • What am I ignorant of?

              • just how stupid you really are.

      45. @ All,

        Evening Solar Update,

        An M-1.0 flare occurred a bit over an hour ago. The genitive source of this event was not 11654 but instead was 11652.

        In the time since my last posting the leading section of 11654 has simplified noticeably; few high magnitude, opposing polarity regions are now proximate to each other in that area. Consequently, it may be presumed that the liklihood of any potential high magnitude events originating from that region has thereby decreased.

        Consistent with this observation, the measured Penticton Solar Flux (22:00 UTC reading) has decreased to a value of 167.1 sfu.

        11652 has increased in complexity – marginally – in the hours intervening since the last report but ONLY marginally, and is not expected to provide significant further displays in time to come having apparently fully reached maturity at this stage. 11654 remains a concern if and only if further development is seen subsequently.


        • @ JustOneGuy. Just one more day and those sun spots will be dead on Earth directed if they decide to belch up a nice big X flare. Will be semi to full Earth directed for the next 3 days or so. I really think this is affecting the earthquakes. When you look at the shear size difference between the Earth and the Sun you really feel extremely vulnerable to the whims of the Sun.

      46. Preppers. On side note. Is there an organic but non-GMO cure for hemmorhoids? Been suffering past few days. In Pocatello this morning at house was a -14F. So went out and wubbed ass on frozen ground to see if helped. That didnt work, so went to a tree trunk and put fanny and started wubbing. I need help and advice.

        PS. I think Patriot Dawn could be a good book. I think I will read it. Just finished Born to Run about the Tarahumara Indians and there ability at ultra-marathon running, specifically a race in Leadville, Colorado.

        Good luck folks !!!!

        • Drink a fifth of Jack Daniels. Find small stick. Put stick between teeth and bite down hard. Drop drawers and go down on hands and knees. Wake up next morning and go see surgeon.

      47. Warning . . .

        Islamic Jihadist are preparing for massive operation on millitary infrastructre in Washington State. Radicals found in L.A. massive community transit center. Islamic movment to Springfield , Mo to carry out operations. Why take away GUNS when we are clearly at war in the Homeland. The enemy are Jihadist and those the are secretly working for to create chaos intentionally. Chinese spys are in America to plan massive attack for non payment. Russian spys in millitary infrastructre, posing as cops to gather info on fellow co workers and civillians, they also work with the Iranians and spy for them. Danger is imediate. We are in a dangerous Silient War and the FBI, CIA, NSA, ATF, DHS, Special Forces must put a stop to their plans or tragic things will take place. I can only do so much and WARN civilians and those who will fight for GOD and COUNTRY. Wake Up America. People and Agencies now know the Truth behind somethings. GOD of the HOLY BIBLE will give Visions and Phrophetic Revelations to those he wills to help some to believe in a Greater cause. It is Good vs Evil sprits and evil will exist in places you would have never suspected. There is a Heaven and a Hell, my Son and I will be in Heaven. What about you and yours ? Live Free, Fight Hard. God will know of you and works.

        • That’s right folks, you heard it here first! Silent War is a secrete operative logistics nightmare! A one man wrecking team that has passed on imperative information that only a select few even know!
          I can guarantee this, if this supposed jihadist attack were to happen, the folks on the SHTF website would be the last to know, as with all surprise attacks. It’s a given that some Islamic nut job is more than willing to plan an attack against the U.S. This is the 21st century, this is reality.
          Chinese spys in the U.S. working for FREE! Holy crap! You can’t make this pile of manure even funnier! Remember that saying, you get what you pay for? I bet those spies are blundering pecker heads that disguise themselves as a bunch of drag queens in the red light district of China Town.

        • Silent War: You should really get back on those meds the doctor prescribed. And maybe add some yoga or meditation in there to help you relax a bit.

      48. Let keep in mind the collapse doesn’t need to happen for this to happen. Its already here.

      49. Mac, can I just say this without polluting your site with hate…
        But I have to say… this country’s multicultural policies are going to be the ruin of it.

        The only saving grace…we’re slowly watering the blacks down…breeding the stupid out of them. The mexicans are next.

        There I said it.

        I wonder the state of my country when I’m old and near checking out.

        • In the 1920’s, the European communist leaders determined that the best way to destroy western civilization would be thru diversity and multiculterism. Read about Antonio Gramsci,Italian communist leader of that time.

      50. Preppers. I have a question on silver. I have been buying ‘some’ physical silver. It it not much, but I want to have enough to maybe ‘barter’ with if times get tough, or to save.

        My silver investments have come three ways–(1) the pre-1965 dimes, (2) the US Silver Eagles, and (3) silver melted by others that have 0.999 fine silver and also weigh 31.1 gms.

        My dime collection I have separated them three ways (1) 1960-1964, (2) 1940-1959, and (3) 1896-1939. I plan to sell all my 1960-1964 dimes.

        My question is that I prefer the US Silver Eagles.

        Is there really a better way. I will buy some more silver this year, but that will be it. I want to buy the best value that can also be used to cash in later. Thanks.


        • Ugly,

          Btw hate typing your name, reminds me of my ex.. But I would add lots of lead to those assets. At the rate its flying of the shelves it could very well go past the price of gold..

          Have a good one,


          • @DPS….I will buy my first gun very soon. In Idaho, there does not seem to be a shortage as I am reading elsewhere. My first gun will be a 12 gauge.

            The above post was about silver. I am going to sell some of my silver dimes, only the 1960-1964.

            But I want to buy some more silver thiss 2013 and that will be it forever on silver. I favor the US Silver Eagles. But what is really the best silver to buy and store for future?

            PS. Sorry Ugly reminds you of ex. Maybe your next one will be Rainbow?

            • Ugly,

              My ex was a knockout, but her actions were ugly. And my current GF is my sunshine to bad she does much care for prepping.


              • @DPS….

                One of my struggles in prepping is my wife also. She sees the ‘somewhat’ need and that is it. It has been a slow process, but thankfully we are building one noodle at a time.

                But this week I told my wife either we are filling the bastard full of food, or we are not. And if we dont, dont forget this moment if our shelves are empty in a time when we need food. We will fill the shelves. I owe it to my wife, kid, and several others.

                The shelves will be filled!

            • Ugly,

              Sounds like you have a handle on you PM stocks, If you really want to prepare for the future. I would say Knowledge and skills. After all the silver and gold has been spent you will need real assets. Your mind will be the great asset for the future of your family..


              • DPS….On my PM and stuff, actually I am a dumbass. Im not prepared. I have silver and I want to make sure it is the best kind.

                Everytime I look at these dimes I say would someone really give me $2.45 for one 1961 dime? Thus, I am selling my 1960-1964 dimes. I will keep the older ones for possible silver value as well as ‘collectors’ value.

                My only goal on this is to have enough silver and cash for a 6 month period if you had to use it in a crisis situation. After that, I agree….

                it is the more important stuff such as food….

                • Ugly,

                  If you are new to prepping spend your money on the basics first. Look back through this site and read and follow some basic prepping before you spend everything on silver… Remember Beans Bullets and Band-aids its the best way to start. And stop waiting, go get that gun dude you owe it to your family to be able to protect them.. With deadly force if it is needed…


                  • DPS….Thanks. I have it in my mind that I will be ready by March 2013. I will buy the gun this week.

                    In March 2013, I have told my family we will practice one weekend so that we know what we are lacking. You know, like did our solar radios work well, could we cook food without the conventional oven, and so forth.’

                    The biggest thing I am worried about is the economic collapse. It is coming. And it will be before year 2020, most likely around 2015 or 2016. Thus 2013 is it for most preppers to buy before the real inflation hits.

                    Keep in touch.

                  • To Ugly,

                    I would like to add that a good .22 lr long gun will go very far. My father shot my ruger 10/22 yesterday as an instructional step prior to shooting my AR. He loved it and really felt it would work well in a defense situation if it needed to. I’d recommend buying as much .22 lr ammo and try to find either a .22 lever gun or a ruger 10/22. n the latter case get the 25 round extened mags.

                  • @ ugly

                    You may be more right about the “end” coming to the world as we now know it. The dates you throw out there are in line with what I’ve been hearing and studying about.
                    There is a “time stamp” for the final seven year period that has to happen,and it’s refered to as “the confirmation of the covenant. The covenant being the rightful ownership of the land of Israel to the offspring/families of Abraham,Isaac, and Jacob.

                    On November 29th 2012, the United Nations General Assembly overwhelmingly voted to accept Palestine as an “observer state”. That in itself doesn’t really say that much to the rest of the world,however; in the fine print it “reaffirms” Israel’s status as a nation, that has the final say to affairs within it’s borders.

                    Could these “key” words, however subtle, be the “confirmation”, by the worlds governments, as to Israel’s God given covenant? If so, then we began the final seven year countdown sometime in the final weeks of the year 2012.

                    Hold on for the bumpy ride ahead and prepare accordingly.

        • Stick with Eagles. U.S. minted. Hard to counterfeit and there is at least some guarantee they are actually 999 silver. Dimes will be good too when you need to make change. It’s hard to cut an Eagle in half!

      51. Looks like I got zapped during the upgrade server window commenting on the article. Oh well. Here is what is happening in regards to the earthquake situation. Today there was another earthquake in the polar region, just east of the Falklands Islands. This region has only been hit with earthquake sequences 7 times in the past 40 years. ALL 7 times there was a large earthquake afterwards. On top of the other polar activity and in the Carlsburg Ridge, this confirms something quite large is coming.

        I still say China is the number one target. Then I would say Mexico and Caribbean area, Chile/Peru, Argentina region, Japan, Vanuatu area to Fiji and Kermandec Islands, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, west coast of the U.S., especially california. It could be a bit off from these areas, but these areas are really where these energy signatures are coming from directed at these polar regions. These precursor quakes keep coming up in the same spots together where they lead to a big earthquake before.

        I would say there is a decent chance of a 8+ this time, maybe a 9+. Too many different spots that have been hit. I was so sure of something coming that I sent Mac the warning, during the site upgrade, so he could verify that the forecast was made before it happened. Just look at all the earthquakes on these plate boundaries that don’t have that much stress on them. This is how these distant foreshocks work, they tend to find areas that are not locked and can move. When it happens, it should be clearer if faults in the U.S. are in further danger.

        • 5.5 in gulf of California

      52. Overriding the 2nd amendment, now repealing the 22nd:

        H.J.Res. 15: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment

      53. A Survival Thought (not tip) by Ugly–

        Do you procrastinate?

        Are you like Ugly where you wait, then wait, then wait, then wait, then wait, then wait, then wait, then wait, then wait, then wiat, then wait, then wait, then wait, then wait, then wait,….

        then all of sudden, spend $2,000 on Saturday afternoon.

        2013 is it before hyperinflation.

        Thus, I cannot wait. I have purchased stuff, but am way short. Must get ready.

        I know we all sense something bigger than BIs earthquakes is coming to America. It bothers me that most Americans are really dumb to this very, very near and terrible future.

        I want to thank all for your inputs as I have put some of those ‘ideas’ into action and not waiting. The longer we wait, the worst we will be.

      54. Patriotic Group To Build Armed ‘Defensible’ Neighborhood Fortress Interesting concept. If I was a younger man, I’d like to get into residential architecture. I read an article on criminal home invasions and law enforcement swat teams going to the wrong house. The ultimate solution was to have a house that nobody could get into, unless you let them in. If it is the cops trying to get in, you call 911 and verify it is the real deal wanting in your home, then if we are still living in a civil society where law enforcement can be trusted to do the right thing, tell 911 to advise them that you will be opening the door and will be offering no resistance.

        It is my understanding that some criminals are impersonating law enforcement to help them carry out their crimes in some places.

        With residential architecture it would be nice to design houses that look like normal everyday houses, yet have extra security features built in. This community in Idaho would do well to consider this level of security for the homes they build also. Lots of possibilities from defense of each home to segments of neighbor to the whole community.

        “will voluntarily agree to follow the footsteps of our Founding Fathers by swearing to one another our lives, our fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Liberty against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” It would be hoped that respect for other mens wives, children, and personal property would simply be understood. But now-a-days you have to wonder sometimes. Sadly “Sacred Honor” is a fragile commodity in modern day America.


        2013 Tennessee Gun Shows

        I’m needing to throw away the .32 that I can’t hit a side of a barn with.
        I’ll be there first chance I get for something with a laser!! Yep.

        • .32 what?
          wonder why it wont hit right?

          Let me know, I might be able to help you figure out why…

          _Daisy, a character in the Warriors novel series

          • My dh can’t even hit a cardboard box with it–it’s trash-just glad I found out before I tried to murder that dog attacking a pregnant woman while jogging–remember that story???
            There are more reasons than shooting burglars for owning guns.

            • Oh, pistol.

      56. @ All,

        An M-1.7 flare has registered on the GOES-15 monitors, peaking at 08:38 UTC. Suprisingly, the source of this flare was, again, 11652…NOT 11654. Go figure…’sympathy pains’ maybe?

      57. 3 % That is all . 3% of the population fought in the First American Revolution 3%. First, hundreds will die, then thousands. Some time after 6 zeros ie.. Millions dead, the resolve of the ones left resisting will be to the utmost conviction. Blood and tears will be the order of the day for a while, until the tears slow. The form of government this nation was built upon is unfit for a GOD-less people, in other words it cannot survive without a spiritually moral society. The war we are now entering into (make no mistake it has begun) is unlike any E V E R seen in human history for this war is to be fought in every land. This war is for global consolidation of confederate power, in the control of a few hundred men. Unfortunately humankind’s best helper would be a global leveler. An event or series of events that would even out the technological superiority of those who have become the “lords of the earth”. It is with great sorrow I say such horrific words. Death and destruction cannot be averted and so the question becomes; not, will I die or where will I die, but how will I die. For a truly free man is always free regardless of the space in which his flesh occupies. Freedom is not so much a state of being, rather even more so, it is a state of conviction of the heart and mind. May The True Living GOD remember mercy!

      58. You people are drama addicts. Your whole life revolves around finding some non-existent conspiracy to feed your need for drama. You are just like the junkie on the street who will do anyhintg for a fix, even make shit up! Morons.

        • JoeinNC….I truly hope that you have more in your pantry that just one bag of top ramen. Yes, some things said is of fear such as my drone stuff. But other stuff is very real.

          The dollar is going, and it will not be pretty because too many folks like yourself have ignored it, or made fun of it. There is not one indicator that shows we are recovering and rebuilding this country. All indicators shows a collapse.

          Joe, a strong economy does not require $8T in fiat money printing to keep it afloat. It is dying. The death will happen when the printing no longer holds down the interest rates. Once that goes up, then so will come hyperinflation. Then we will see a real debt and a collapse that will appear over-nite.

          2013 is the year to prepare. If you try to start in 2014 you will probably find that prices have doubled. Hopefully your income will double too. Good luck.

        • @ JoeInNC. I don’t know how old you are, but anyone with any age on them has to admit, these are some strange times. I certainly don’t remember as a kid ever seeing this in the world today. Sure there was war and the enemy USSR across the sea, but nothing like today. People in the U.S, really and truly thought of themselves as Americans and there was a general concern for each other and the country as a whole. Now this country is as or more polarized than during and after the Civil War 150 years old. WHY can’t you and these other characters that bash the people here see this?

          The world resembles right before World War 1 started, the countries are positioning themselves for major conflict. Look ay China and Japan ready to go to war over those oil and gas rich islands. There are not just two nuclear powers aiming at each other and walking around like two peacocks in full display. You have China with as many nukes as the U.S. or China had during the cold war. Pakistan and India with hundreds between them. Israel with hundreds and Iran probably with a couple of more. North Korea has a hell of lot more than people realize. I dion’t even want to talk about the advancement in biological weapons that most countries and terrorist groups have access to.

          The country is in a deep freefall with the economy, BO wants a quadrillion, no make that a quintillion dollar debt limit. BO wants something like 1920’s Germany to happen to the U.S. These idiots are going along with it. You think these idiots would have learned about what printing happy money does to a country. Every single democrat and republican should be telling BO STOP this financial suicide. It should be 435-0, and 100-0 vote to stop BO’s runaway money scam right into the soild wall of reality. NO, it “ain’t happening”. War is the only way out, like countless times before in history.

          JoeinNC, if you really believe what you say, then WAKE UP for your own sake and see the collapse of society and civilization decaying right in front of us each day. IF you are just trying to irritate and make angry the good people here, for some sick pleasure, that spend their own free time trying to communicate their ideas and make this site that much better for everyone, then you need to go mount yourself on some knot hole of some old tree.

        • Hey joe, from where i’m sitting, you are the drama addict. If i were so miserable and disliked in any social setting, as it appears you are; then, I’d quit spouting off insults and try to add something useful. Apparently you don’t have a life beyond your computer screen.
          Try a little kindness and see if you can get over yourself.

      59. Let the moderating “begin” and “condemn”.

        Evidently this site has gotten so “politically correct” that the mere mention of the word “Christian” will get your comment pulled/deleted.
        I have heard others complaining about their comments being pulled and am noticing it more and more. I’ve seen several sites go down hill because of “over moderation”.

        I guess true freedom of speech doesn’t count anymore.

        • @dont tread….I have had that happen. Sometimes when you submit a comment the same time as 2-3 others, sometimes it does not go thru. I have had that happen on other websites. Also, on the end I was referring mostly to America. By 2015-2016 our debt:GDP ratio will be where Greece was but with a much more massive spending problem. Our dollar is having problems on the world scene now, and it is collapsing. Who will save it?

          @JOG and BI….thanks for your updates. The Universe is changing. The Earth and Sun are mad.

          @preppers….keep talking. I believe 2013 is it. By it, I mean 2014 and beyond we will see dollar meltdown and massive budget problems that will start to shock Americans into the famous 3Ws ‘What Went Wrong?’. I have already begun simplifying my financial portfolio. And also, am working on debt reduction. This is the beginning of Birth Pains.

          @Max Velocity….looks like book is good, but I see pretty much stuff we are already talking about on prepper websites. I hope your book will wake others up that are totally clueless about the very near future.

          • @ Ugly. You are so correct about the planet and the universe going mad. They had a 5.5 just a little while ago in the Gulf Of California, see how the energy is aiming towards the california region. They also had another sub-polar earthquake in the South Sandwich Islands region. I am so sure of a big earthquake coming. When you have this much activity in the polar areas WATCH OUT, something bad is coming. WHY? Because it shows that there are several different locations being hit from at least two massively locked up and ready to break faults.

            I tell you, my subconscious is really tormenting me, I had nightmares all last night about volcanoes going off all over the planet and all this fire everywhere. I think this is what everyone is picking up, a real danger looming for the planet, manmade and Mother Nature. Watch the earthquakes closely, the planet is alive and waking up like a very angry giant.

        • Thanks for the feedback here… There are, from time to time, issues with commenting as described by ‘Ugly’ above. Much of this is either a system Spam filter issue (AKISMET software) or WordPress fails to recognize certain characters and rejects them (stars or lines being used repeatedly).. These are limitations that we have tried to fix but are still working on.

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          • Thanks for the clarification, and keep up the great work, sir!

            • Thanks Mac! I’m so used to getting “censored” for my religious comments, I was afraid the one site I believed in was hitting the skids.
              Many thumbs up to you and the followers.

        • Why do stupid people insist they have a right to post something on someone else’s website?

      60. Hiya DT,

        Don’t know if what you’re refering to is relative to recent (or other) time-frames but believe me, I’ve posted in a half-dozen updates on Solar things during the last 48 hours that required a reposting to get them in.

        You are aware that Mac did the serrver migration over the weekend, Yes? T’aint no small task that …. tryin to keep everything runnin’ while shifting it all over to another locale, then tryin to make sure it’s all ‘OK’. If the problem continues I’d post a ‘Yo Mac’ direct otherwise see if things don’t act a little more normal now since he’s completed the job. Have a good one!

        • Naw, guys my comment was posted and was not in moderation mode early on Sat. am. Others posted before and after mine and are still up.
          I guess i get a little too controversial with my biblical comments for some people. Whatever.

      61. Here’s some resistance

        Patriotic Group To Build Armed ‘Defensible’ Neighborhood Fortress

        A group of like-minded patriots, bound together by pride in American exceptionalism, plan on building an armed community to protect their liberty.

        The group, named Citadel, intends to purchase 2,000 to 3,000 acres for the project in western Idaho. The community will comprise of 3,500 to 7,000 families of patriotic Americans who “voluntarily choose to live together in accordance with Thomas Jefferson’s ideal of Rightful Liberty.”

        According to the Citadel website, Rightful Liberty means that “neighbors keep their noses out of other neighbors’ business, that neighbors live and let live.”

        link to follow

      62. Once you let our gov’t shrink down the mags it will NEVER STOP and they will continue to do it. Now is the time for the Revolution to take place. They will say bolt action rifles are sniper rifles and they must be removed. It will not stop.. The NEXT REVOLUTIONARY WAR IS HERE ONCE THAT BILL PASSES. KILL ALL FED AGENTS AND EVERYONE WORKING FOR OUR GOV’T they must be slaughtered…

      63. Ground Zero Washington is wear its at. All cops their a commies. Use lethal force Ambush the rest.

      64. In the 60’s anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to open their borders to non-white immigration. Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to “integrate” or face penalties for being “naziswhowantokill6millionjews.” Now anti-whites are counting down the days for when ALL and ONLY white children become minorities and eventually extinct EVERYWHERE. It’s Genocide. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

      65. They had a poll on Yahoo about how often do you eat fast food. 30% said often, 61% said rarely, and ONLY 9% said never. This goes hand in hand with the percentage of people that actually prepare, as preppers understasnd the value of money and how mega expensive it is to purchase junk food and not prepare your own food. It is incredible just how much food you can get for the price of a family’s fast food meal. I can cook up enough for at least 4 meals for the price of ONE fast food meal.

        Can you imagine the 30% of the population that depends on fast food to live, what they are going to do when all this happens? They will starve or eat out of garbage cans before the wild animals can get to them. Can you imagine the horror that those that have not even tried to prepare will go through when SHTF in mega fashion. Maybe they will get lucky and fema will throw them a little pre-packaged envelope of gruel they can gnaw on.

        • BI,

          You’re right about the prices of fast food. For the price of a chicken dinner for four from our local chicken house (about $25, currently) I can pick up enough items to feed the four of us for nearly a week.

          Post-SHTF, those that depend on the fast food will be in deep doo doo. That kind of goes along with something I said on another post about other modern “gadgets”. Most people that depend on them will be lost without their smart phones, facebook, twitter, tablets, notebooks etc.

          Been working on my preps like a madman. Every chance i get I’m picking up something, even if it’s just a couple boxes of ammo.

          I agree with everyone who are saying 2013 is the year to get whatever you need.

        • Yea, it is ridiculous how much is spent on fast food and how addictive it has become. We got into a habit this summer of stopping by the drive thru on our way to the retreat (across town and a drive up into the mountains) where our gardens/animals etc. are located, at least four days each week. When the funds started shrinking due to fuel and increase on food, I said something has got to give.

          We cut our weekly food expense by half, by limiting our stop at biscuit & burger barns (suck-holes), to once a week. We don’t put Subway in that category because we split a footlong turkey for only five and some change.
          We now stock up on brunch/lunch soups at Walmarket for a buck fifty per can and with all the Campbell soup flavors, we don’t get bored with it. That’s now our fast food plan.

          I still enjoy that B-Mac w/ fries, but only once or twice each month. We learned long ago that paying for the sodas at those places was ripping us a new butt hole and making them rich, not to mention the unhealthy issues.

          The fast food chicken? Forget about it. It’s loaded with grease and will cost you 25 bucks to feed a family of four. The market deli chicken is better and about half the cost with the fixins.

          I don’t think it will be much longer and most people will be priced out of the fast food market. A 50% jump in fuel prices will do the trick.

      66. Brilliant, piece, Tucker! You write exceptionally well! Unfortunately, what your wrote is a bunch of bull s__!! Its a shame your spiritual/mental evolution failed to keep pace with your ability to write. Ignorant, ignorant, ignorant!!

      67. The explosion of gun sales recently has prompted me to come to this conclusion. All of these people at gun shows, gun shops, etc, are sending obama and his coharts a message! We may have been silent thru all of political crap, but we are voicing our opinion by buying guns. I will bet that they are going to back down

        • Went to Kentucky Gun Co in Bardstown on Friday with a friend of mine. He bought his first gun there. Nearly all of the “reasonably priced” guns were cleaned out, and the rest were the high-end brands (Benelli, Ithaca, etc.) He did manage to pick up a decent 9mm for about $300.

          They did have a fair supply of ammo, and I grabbed some while I had the chance.

          Seems to me that folks here in Kentucky are sending a clear message to TPTB.

      68. Dont bet on them backing down at all. They have an agenda and will stop at nothing to fulfill it.First it will be some little thing, then another, and another until we are like England, disarmed and unable to protect ourselves.
        Either that or they are going to start rounding up the more vocal gun owners and make examples as “terrorists” until there is a Waco type event so they can go “see, we said they were dangerous” and ban everything outright. At that point it will get ugly:
        1. people will not stand for it, protests and riots
        2. small groups of pissed off people will act against politicians, TSA, FBI, etc
        3. martial law will be declared
        4. military will start to defect or dissappear
        5. UN “help” will be required
        6. complete and total anarchy ensues when the “handout/obamaphone” crowd cant get free stuff
        7. societal breakdown as the large cities self destruct
        8. rural areas are going to be overrun outside of the cities as hordes of people flee the chaos
        9. “Escape from New York” becomes a documentary
        10. anything goes

        Thats just my opinion of how things will work out worst case. I pray it doesn’t happen, but it’s not looking good.

        • Looks like a pretty accurate description to me. And no, I don’t see them backing down either.

          Everything up to this point is the culmination of decades of planning. To further the agenda, disarmament must happen.

          As a side note, people around here, especially in the past month or so, have become incresingly surly. Used to be you could get a smile or a friendly nod out of just about anyone. Now, not so much.

          Don’t want to read too much into that, but it’s almost as if people are picking up vibes that things are about to go way off track.

        • Looking forward to the appearance of those blue helmet wearing jackbooted thugs.

          Also looking forward to the mass desertions of our military troops.

          A word of advice for all those in the resistance community. Keep a sharp eye on that greasy turd named McChrystal. After his anti-Second Amendment rant speech on MSNBC the other day, where he was reciting the script that obammy and holder wrote for him – and saying the the most effective self-defense weapons against government tyranny (ARs, AKs, semi-autos) should be taken away from the law-abiding citizens – it became obvious to me that this piece of hyena manure is auditioning for the top job of NKVD Storm Trooper Commandant.

          • Actually the best items to have are a .22 revolver and a scoped hunting rifle. You won’t win the head to head semi auto shootout.

      69. KySSG, you’re right about getting everything you can while you can. I’m still doing the same for myself, especially on .22lr ammo. went to a gun show today and bought 2 more bricks. Everyone else in memphis is out of .22. never saw a shortage of .22 anywhere until recently. neoisolationist, you’re right on target about the Ruger 10/22. i have one and love it, along with both of my .22 pistols. the entire country is sending a messsage to TPTB: if you try gun confiscation, you’ll be opening pandora’s box. Braveheart

        • braveheart,
          Big 5 had the stainless version of the 10/22 for $249.00 a couple of weeks ago. The usual price is $369.00. Not sure if they still have any at that price. Great little rifle.

      70. I read the book. Excellent read, read it in 2 evening sit downs. It helps get your head around some plausible scenarios, but it really is fantasy near the end.

        But I recommend the book.


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