Police Chief Wants You To Turn In Gun Enthusiasts: “We Might Want To Vet These People”

by | Dec 5, 2014 | Headline News | 305 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo has asked residents of his city to keep an eye on neighbors and family members after Larry Steven McQuilliams went on a shooting spree through the Texas Capitol last week.

    McQuilliams, who held some extreme views and was reportedly targeting as many as 30 people, has been described by local police as a “homegrown extremist.”

    In response to the shooting Acevedo has called on the Austin community to keep a watchful eye on people they know and to report any suspicious behavior to the police so that individuals, especially gun owners, can be vetted.

    There are assuredly dangerous individuals in our society who have no qualms about killing innocent people, but could Acevedo’s request to citizens to say something if they see something be opening a Pandora’s box of government surveillance?

    Let me tell you what keeps me up at night. It’s these guys. It’s these homegrown extremists that are lone wolfs, that are mad at the world, that are angry… That’s why it’s important for us as Americans to know our neighbors, to know our families.

    Tell somebody.

    If you know somebody that’s acting with a lot of hatred towards any particular group… especially if you know that somebody’s a gun enthusiast or is armed with these types of firearms and they’re showing any type of propensity for hatred… it doesn’t mean we’re going to go in and take them to jail… But we might want to vet these people.

    Within the context of the Chief’s call to action it’s difficult to argue with reporting to police an individual who poses a danger to others around them – especially if the individual is fueled by rage and hate, has weapons in their possession and has made claims that they intend to injure or kill others.

    But where is the line? If you give them an inch they will no doubt take a mile.

    In California, Governor Jerry Brown has already signed a bill that gives police the authority to “vet” individuals and seize their firearms if a family member reports that they may be mentally unstable. No proof of the allegation is necessary.

    And the Veterans Administration is feverishly working to ensure that any veteran who has Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or even fails to pay their personal bills on time loses access to their right to bear arms.

    So, while the actions of Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo are commendable and seemingly geared for protecting the general population, could this trend of seeing something and saying something lead to a complete breakdown of Constitutional protections?

    As noted above, the government has already found loopholes, legal or not, that they say give them the authority to seize firearms from individuals who have been convicted of doing absolutely nothing. Moreover, law enforcement agencies have already stripped the Fourth Amendment, as evidenced by the almost daily reports of peoples’ doors being kicked and their homes searched without any sort of probable cause or on fabricated charges.

    Are the police and other surveillance agencies going through a door that, once opened, can never be shut again? Are we creating a society where it’s patriotic to snitch on one’s neighbors? Could it potentially lead to what we’ve seen throughout history where even the innocent get “vetted” and detained for no other reason than having upset someone for a totally innocuous reason?

    With over 1 million Americans now on No-Fly and Other Terror-related Watch Lists it should be clear that the “vetting” process is already in full swing.


    Hattip Ed Thomas / TheDailySheeple.com


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      1. I don’t know nothin. I didn’t see nothin. And I ain’t sayin nothin.

        • We all know where this is going. Yet we just sit and watch the trap close around us.

          As they prepare, so do we!

          OFF Topic: I am trying to make my car more secure. In a lawless environment, my car will be when I am most vulnerable. To car jacking and kid napping (I mean geriatric napping).

          I am doing to additional thing…

          1. I just bought master lock cuffs a and the cuffs with the cable. I plan on attaching both ends to to each door. That way when they approach the car. they try to open the door its locked, they smash the window and reach in to unlock it, they cannot because the doors are attached to each other by security cable that runs under the front seats.

          Thoughts, ideas criticisms?!?

          2. With respect to smashing the side windows, I want to have security film installed on the side windows so that they are much harder to break. I’m trying to find a place that does it. I don’t want to try it myself and mess up my car. Thoughts, ideas criticisms?!?

          3. Finally, I just bought LoJack stickers off of Ebay. Do you think those might discourage thiefs?

          Thanks. Any input much appreciated!

          • WoW, I don’t know of anybody on this site that are gun enthusiast or have a hatred for LE, Government, Jews or Blacks. “Ain’t nobody in here but us chickens” Trekker Out.

            • lol smartass

              • People that ‘rat’ other people out
                better keep eyes in the back of their head.

                • 24/7

                  • This story is now 2 days old.

                    Way to go Mac… you’re one of the last to “repost” it.

                    • So freaking what? Maybe he had other stuff to post. Really! That’s all you got?????!!!

                    • TEST says:

                      “So freaking what? Maybe he had other stuff to post.”

                      LOL… Hey genius, Mac had NOTHING else to post.

                      That’s the POINT!!!

                    • It might be two days old to you, but I don’t have time to read a million post a day. It is brand new to me.
                      I see a lot of forums that repost. As of my post, this one has 258 comments. WOW, what a repost. I guess my mother was right.

                  • Snitches end up in ditches

                    • You know, the msm blackout is one thing, but I expected alternative media to do a better job of keeping track of the beginnings of world war III. HERE’S A LINK.

                      America is on a “Hot War Footing” House Legislation Paves the Way for War with Russia?

                      This anti-gun article might be valuable, but I think we might have a more clear and present danger at the moment. So can we just slow down on the nonsense articles and take a look at this new legislation that might be the end of life as we know it, Mac?

                • True that, OutWest!

                  But you know..it can cut both ways, methinks.

                  ..imagine getting the home address or license plate# of one’s shit-for-brains-traitorous-government official…a congress-critter/councilman, county supervisor or common-core school system administrator etc..etc..

                  —-(fill-in-the-blank, per position/title)—–

                  ..then calling 911 w/ a prepaid(anonymous) throwaway cell phone and breathlessly screech:..

                  “..there’s a naked man w/ a pistol / belt / handcuffs / whatever…. chasing a small naked child across the lawn at #xxx Hollygrove Lane….oh, they’ve ran around back of the house…I hear the child screaming….Oh, GOD…please send somebody now!!!”….


                  Again, a 911 call:

                  “..yes, operator..I’m on hwy #31 southbound..just outside INDY..there’s a guy driving a late model blue Caddy license # TXA-3031…he’s masturbating while driving…this guy’s sick!” …etc..etc!


                  In truth..the sky’s the limit, per one’s imagination!

                  ..swamp their system..overload it…they desire a snitch society…make life a pain in the ass, for its advocates!

                  ..’tis a simple solution, via using their own system…against them!


                  ..just be sure, to immediately destroy the phone!

                  Good luck!

                  • Hunter, good idea! Use a payphone if you can still find one. Find out where the politicos live that support this shit and sic the nazis on them lol. Set them up with some drugs in theyre car and call in a complaint of a driver waving a gun around (that will certainly get the car searched). Call CPS and say you saw them beating theyre kids, etc. The list is long of shit you can do. Hire a private detective to follow them around and get some dirt on them also. Post theyre address on the internet, phone # etc. All kinds of payback for these commie fookers! Same goes for thug cops, crackhead nieghbors, or any other piece of shit that makes your life miserable. Make sure to draw the line on the innocent and unknowing it should only be used on assholes that really have it coming. 🙂

                    • Agreed big “G”!

                      ..you know..years ago, circa 2000-2001..a comrade in arms & I..collaborated and wrote / produced a super mega-byte symposium (w/ vids/diagrams/photos & working chemical formulas etc..etc..it was divided into two parts..

                      ..part #1, being a hefty instruction / technical manuscript, encompassing everything from asymmetrical-unconventional warfare & tactics (urban & rural)..including a psy-ops section…to workshop chemistry..and even basic machine shop / sheet-metal fabrication techniques for the patriot-guerrilla/underground movement..(using limited/basic machine/tooling)

                      ..part #2, was a fictional book..utilizing the above (in detail)…w/ various chapters addressing the strengths / weaknesses of the enemy regime..and how the freedom fighters(heroes)..overcame the enemy’s numerical & technical superiority.

                      ..it was very entertaining..in a Tom Clancy sort of way!


                      ..yet, in truth, today it would be a bit outdated, especially per drone usage/warfare..as we never addressed such in the book..or in part #1.


                      ..we termed one:

                      “..the Confederate Battle Manual (rev. 2.0)”

                      The book was called:

                      “..Divorcing the Empire


                      Initially..everything was burned onto CD’s…then later transferred onto multiple thumb-flash drives.

                      Sadly, we cannot locate/find either nowadays…although we’re still searching!


                      Hopefully, one day..one of us will rediscover them, amid our mutual junk/horded piles of stuff.

                      ..if so, I’ll sneak/post a chapter or two..on some relevant thread here.

                      Wish me/us luck..if you please!

                    • Hunter, This links for you! ht tp://www.freedomslips.com/thumb.htm take out the space between the t’s. This has a lot of the good old info you want 😉 also check out skylighter.com for material 🙂

                    • Thank you big “G” (well deserved honor, BTW)…

                      Stay awake always & cover your trail…as much as possible!

                      ..guys like you, who think outside the box…will be indispensable, should/if/when…the game…goes physical!!!

                      ..thumbs up to ya!

                    • HUNTER: Heres the main address where aprox 4000+ of THE TOP Main Honchos all Hangs out at when plotting devious scam swindles to destroy Us and our nation!

                      Council on Foreign Relations, att. Terrorist Recruitment Office, Harold Pratt House, 58 East 68th Street at Park Avenue, New York, NY 10065.

                      Picture several Million letters sent there for a Job app to do FAKED terrorists events etc!…Or apply for Job to Fly a 747 Plane into a building like we was told happened by 19 guys who never yet flew even a single engine Piper Cub!…Maybe the CFR swindlers and tribal membership would get a clue that many folks are now On to them and all they Plot…For it Is these CFR type folk that police chief works for in reality.

                    • Genius, have you ever been SWATed? I have. I had a friend and his Dad living with me for a week before their tile job started and the kid spotted a guy who owed me a 100 bucks that I’d loaned to fix his car. My so called friend saw the guy and threatened him. Supposedly there was a pistol envolved although the i never saw a gun and the cops never found a weapon. The police response was overwhelming. No less than a dozen cops and 4 with M4 5.56 rifles.

                      Someone could have gotten killed. My dog nipped one of the cops ( even after I told them not to go near her ) and i was pleasantly surprised that the cop didn’t kill my dog who was on a 30 foot lead. In fact, i knew the cop and he just kind of brushed off the dog bite because it didn’t break the skin.

                      I allowed the cops to search my house ( my attorney wasn’t keen on this ) because there’s nothing in here that would indicate criminal activity and I know my 4th admendment rights. The top cop conducting his search told me to STFU several times even though i was acting in a calm and deliberate manner. The other three cops I personally know were embarrassed because of the sarge’s behavior and wouldn’t even look me in the eye until after he departed to harrass someone else.

                      Talking to one of the cops who kind of lingered after all the BS was over said the original person who filed the complaint said that I have an extensive gun collection and that the Sarge had done a NCIS ( I think that’s correct or Homeland Security check ). I didn’t verify or deny this important tid bit of information. Never, Never, never tell the cops or a lawyer anything. EVER. Be polite and respectful but don’t incriminate yourself. Just shut up.

                      Personally, I think the overwhelming police response was hyped up because of the reputation of our community ( which has gotten much better and lot’s less petty crime ) but there are some hardcore cops who have a hard on to shoot someone because they are now taught that everyone they come in contact with is out to kill them. I got this information from a 30 year cop veteran who I respect ( he also provided my CCW training ).

                      If you advocate this kind of crap perpetrated by our militarized local police then I feel sorry for you and hope you aren’t on the receiving end at some point in your life. To this day, I still feel violated by the cops. It is unsettling.

                      I do understand your wanting to turn the tables on certain elements of our society but we must be very careful. What you have advocated has no due process protocol and in our Defcon 5 alert levels that the police now employ, people will be killed.


                      Snake Plisken

                  • BUT…….

                    What about Exodus 20:16 ?

                    There has to be a better way than to have to knowingly break a commandment and deal with the guilt of asking forgiveness afterwards, when you know you knowingly did it.

                    I think you can call into 911 and overload the system while telling the truth. Just watch cops and start calling in….they are the biggest psychopaths with guns, they provide evidence against themselves daily and you’d be telling the truth.

                    Cops are not a good Godly thing, they have Satan’s appearance of being such, but in true reality (stranger than fiction) they are not.

              • w w w.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/04/phoenix-police-unarmed-man-killed-by-officer/19878931/

                Another one bites the dust at the hands of the roman guards in blue. Apparantly a pill bottle can be mistaken as a gun.

                • Time for another Chimp-out.

            • MT, No one here is racist. But here is a 6 min video from a black man with some sense.
              I agree with alot of what he says…

              ht tp://insider.foxnews.com/2014/12/05/take-some-responsi-damn-bility-mans-video-message-black-community-goes-viral

              Just remove the space

              • ” …. a Pandora’s box of government surveillance?”

                LMAO!!! The CIA/NSA already has everything on the Net and everything that is on your computer if that computer has EVER been connected to the Net. The Cyber Squad is already actively “vetting” every single American. They just haven’t told this Sheriff who you are, if you live in Austin.

                Fuck the Cyber Squad, the CIA and NSA!!! 🙂

                • DK,

                  You’ve been brainwashed with the lies.

                  Essentially, with the help of the media and guys like you, they’ve put an all-identifiable “LoJack” sticker on everyone’s computer. Just like Justice, above, and his car.

                  Are some LoJacked? Certainly.

                  But, the sticker is on every one of them.

                  • DK, NR – I *was* going to reply to you, but I figured the NSA already knew what I was thinkng anyway, so why bother. I’ll just let them forward to you what I was thinking of writing.

                    Dang! I have to find a way to get these electrodes made by the 666 Corporation unglued from my head….

                  • NR: They have all of MY data including the data on my hard drive and in my applications.

                    But I don’t care. There is nothing “sensitive” on the computer that I use for the Internet and all the data is old.

                    They watch me. I watch them watching me. 🙂

                    • This is all worthless propaganda.

                      The notion that government is watching everyone?
                      Lies spread to discourage even private dissent.

                      Even if they could, the amount of data generated *just* by internet traffic (not including ALL other activity involving computers) is gigantic. It all reads out as pure noise.

                      The NSA knows this. Their budget is dependent on the growing amount of “potentially useful data”. They don’t acknowledge they have zero means to sift through and apply this data in a timely manner.

                      The amount of data gathered from web traffic, in one day, by the NSA, would take their entire employee base almost a thousand years to sift through. With rudimentary filtering and bayesian algorithms it cuts the processing time vs. data gathered per day to a healthy 10-15 years.

                      Basically they aren’t shoveling shit against the tide. They are shoveling shit against a 10 mile high tsunami.

                      Yeah, not gonna work.

                      The snitch programs, those are real, And they are dangerous.

                    • DMC: The “Cyber Squad” is located a a recently built, nearly new, 300,000 sf office building in Chantilly Va; and they operate 24/7.

                      How many angels can dance on the head of a pin, and how many assholes can you fit into a cubicle??? 🙁

                    • No, you’re right DK.
                      It’s just, even with all those people, it would be like me bringing one of them flimsy yellow sandcastle buckets to the beach and expecting to bail out the ocean.

                      It’s more of a fear tactic, than anything of substance.

              • Belsen was a gas I heard the other day,
                In the open graves where the Jews all lay!

              • A police officer pulls a guy over for speeding and has the following exchange:
                Officer: May I see your driver’s license? Driver: I don’t have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI. Officer: May I see the owner’s card for this vehicle? Driver: It’s not my car. I stole it. Officer: The car is stolen? Driver: That’s right. But come to think of it, I think I saw the owner’s card in the glove box when I was putting my gun in there. Officer: There’s a gun in the glove box? Driver: Yes sir. That’s where I put it after I shot and killed the woman who owns this car and stuffed her in the trunk. Officer: There’s a BODY in the TRUNK?!?!? Driver: Yes, sir. Hearing this, the officer immediately called his captain. The car was quickly surrounded by police, and the captain approached the driver to handle the tense situation: Captain: Sir, can I see your license? Driver: Sure. Here it is. It was valid. Captain: Who’s car is this? Driver: It’s mine, officer. Here’s the owner’ card. The driver owned the car. Captain: Could you slowly open your glove box so I can see if there’s a gun in it? Driver: Yes, sir, but there’s no gun in it. Sure enough, there was nothing in the glove box. Captain: Would you mind opening your trunk? I was told you said there’s a body in it. Driver: No problem. Trunk is opened; no body. Captain: I don’t understand it. The officer who stopped you said you told him you didn’t have a license, stole the car, had a gun in the glovebox, and that there was a dead body in the trunk. Driver: Yeah, I’ll bet the liar told you I was speeding, too

                source: http://www.jokebuddha.com/Gun#ixzz3L5LhAJ63

                • Good one eppe!

                • Eppe, we were overdue for some more of your humor, keep them coming.

            • Agreed.
              Unfortunately, while moving, all of our firearms were lost when we crossed a dodgy bridge. The safe fell out onto the pavement, it was unsecured and all of the firearms tumbled far down into the very deep water. It was over a Federally protected Wilderness Area, so recovery is not allowed. Had to leave the safe on the roadway since my wife and I are still incapable of lifting anything that heavy. We are almost senior citizens.

              • I think I heard Al Sharpton say something that sounded a little deranged the other day.

                Perhaps he should be reported in case he ever goes to Austin.

                And a lot of other people just like him should be reported as well.

            • Justice, you are on the right track!
              The cuffs-n-cable idea is a good one,
              front and back doors. Window tinting
              shops apply security film on autos as

          • I only see one problem with the door cuffs. You can’t get out either in case of fire. If they break out the window they will drag you out.
            If you know you are going to be in that type of an area I would get a vehicle that you can turn into a tank. Put some type of covering like a heavy mesh screen over the windows so that a large rock or a hammer or a club can’t hit it. I would also get some run flat tires. Some type of protection for you motor top and front grill.
            Damn this sounds like a lot of work. If you can stay away from places like this I would. Door locks I would go with some kind of cross bolt.
            Now for the LoJack this just tell cops where you vehicle is at if it reported stolen. They will dump you car and be gone a long time before you report it. Vehicle are mostly stolen at night while you are sleeping, and reported when you get up in the morning.

              • can’t believe anyone is stupid enough to post that clip …. it’s obvious there’s nothing to it …. just a bunch of MO NG checking cars …

                that El Camino that’s supposed to be set on fire – the windows are up and the doors are never opened ….

            • Pig,

              Now what have you done when you have caught someone carrying who has no criminal record? Under Illinois fucking garbage laws?

            • Are you suggesting I dont leave the keys on the dash anymore? My chihuahua’s are the “tripwire”, the pitbulls are the wakeup call and the super blackhawk is the Bite. Also, should I turn in any neighbors that don’t own a gun? I seriously think I would have to move all the way to Sandpoint to find one of those bald old guys with the rat tail in a rubber band that doesnt own a gun.

              • I think I would have to go that far too to find someone who doesn’t own a gun . . . and I live on the other side of the state 🙂

            • Sgt. Thieves are getting smart these days. When they steal semi trucks full of product they are using GPS Jammers to block out any signal being sent such as a low jack. Everything can be deafeated. Everything!!!!

            • South Africans were equipping cars with under-body flame throwers. Burn the feet of anybody standing by your door.

          • I faced the same problem years ago. I took care of it by just moving away from Detroit to southwest Missouri.
            Not many neighbors, not many radicals, most of the people are well armed and good shots

            • Ditto, just as soon as I could retire.

          • Good thoughts, but it won’t help. Your best defense is not stopping. They can only carjack you when you are stopped so plan on exit routes and escape routes. Don’t be afraid to run red lights or run people over.

            One of my of favorite things to do when a group of black thugs are walking in the middle of the road and they won’t get out of the way, is roll my window down and throw out the old milk shake on them. 🙂

            Don’t stop and don’t stick around. They will get you down the block too.

          • Keep a .45 loaded with hollow point bullets in your waist band where you can get to it in a hurry. If your life is in immediate danger, fire. Aim for center body mass.

            • Cocked and locked the only way to travel!!

            • The 45 Gov is a poor round for hollow points. First at only about 800 fps it often expands poorly, 2. why do you need it to? ,45 is a plenty big hole. If you want to use Hp’s go to 9mm as a faster rd it expands better uses the expansion and allows more shots.

              • .40 typically has better performance with hollow points and more energy.

            • Justice,
              I agree with everyone about not cabling the doors shut. That’s a bad idea.

              The post that nimrod above listed is for a pretty good product. And it could give you extra time in the event of an emergency.

              I just found this company the other day. Haven’t really looked into it too much but they ofer some serious protection with a window film. Bullet resistance, etc. I think they are in Canada. I have no affiliation with them.

              Ace Products. Usace (dot) com


          • Justice;
            With the cars I drive the bad guys will leave me alone, or possibly give me some gas money!

          • A small hidden kill switch tied into primary power to the computer is your best bet to keep your vehicle from being stolen while you’re away. Hide it anywhere, 14 gauge wire and two buttons connectors and you’re in business.

            As to while you’re driving, short of driving a tank, you’re vulnerable IMHO.

          • Justice, everybody knows lojack can be disabled in less time than it takes the owner to get in and start the car.

            As for cabling your doors together, I don’t recommend it.

            For one thing, if you had to exit your car abruptly, say, because some thug was leaning in your newly busted passenger window with a knife swinging at you, you might rethink it.

            What if they set your damned car on FIRE? A bomb in your back seat might be a good reason to carefully think things through.

            Keeping a handgun within easy reach might be more prudent.

          • @Justice
            if you have to resort to doing all those extreme measures, youre in the wrong place.

          • This is straight out Lenin’s/Hitlers playbook.

          • get yourself a cheap junker car and put some money into it so it runs well- no one will ever jack your junker car. problem solved.

            • I have a friend who lives in downtown New Orleans. He bought a 5 year old chevy, gutted it, and made the inside as modern as he could get it with all the bells and whistles. He put a new motor under the hood and reworked the whole car. He put dark windows in it so you could not see in. He has to park this particular car on the street. He did nothing on the outside but paint the car with primer. Outwardly it looks like an older badly painted Chevy. He said he has never had a problem with anyone fooling with it. He said it is not flashy or even inviting but he would not be afraid to drive it around the world if need be. The criminals do not give it a second look.

          • If you cannot carry, a K-Bar type knife is quite effective. My CRKT Kangee Hawk is even better. It is edged across the top – perfect for smashing through an open window into the face of a would-be assailant. The best defense is a good offense.

          • My suggestion (just joking) is what they use in South Africa, the car flame thrower. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc ~ 30 sec.

            This is a real device, tho I don’t know if it is legal or anyone has deployed it.

          • @ Justice : First thing get a truck. If TSHTF, you are not going to run to town and find/buy supplies. The shelves will be empty.The only place you are going in a vehicle is possibly to your BOL, or head for the hills/woods. A car is not going to cut it.

            Second thing, don’t put yourself in the position to get jacked. Most of the time you will be able to see it coming ( road block, mass crowd, somebody pretending to be dead or hurt in the street ).

            Third thing, here in Florida, they have window film for your house. It is for hurricanes. Nothing will make your windows harder to break, but it will keep them together afterward. A vehicle window does not break like on TV. It is not that easy. You gotta hit it hard or have a punch. If your window gets shot out, a cable lock is not going to stop anything.

            Forth thing, If you do get in that position, STEP on the gas of your TRUCK.

            Last, throw the lojack stickers away. If you need stickers, they need to say NRA, or keep honking, I’m reloading. In a real event, ain’t nobody going to care about lo or hi jack. Their might not be any power anyways.

            If you can’t afford a truck or a second vehicle, buy a cheap, no title 4×4 and park it in the garage and start working on it. Install points ignition, or get an old style diesel. Not electronic. You can buy an untitled ( not stolen ) truck for a few hundred dollars. Consider it an invaluable Prep. Depending on your location, maybe consider an enduro, dirt bike, or a Rokon.

            Good luck to you and yours.

          • Nice set up with the door 2 door lock. Q How R U gonna get n2 Ur car?

        • “In response to the shooting Acevedo has called on the Austin community to keep a watchful eye on people they know and to report any suspicious behavior to the police so that individuals, especially gun owners, can be vetted.”

          Is prepping or being self-reliant “suspicious behavior”?

          For goodness sakes, there will be folks who will report that someone is a prepper to the police.

          Sure, there are some wack preppers out there, but the vast majority are not.

          Prepping is not a misdemeanor, not a felony. It’s a good thing.

          • “Prepping is not a misdemeanor”

            Not yet .
            It wont be long before “anti-hoarding” laws will be passed , I “feel” it coming .
            Wealth redistribution aint just for money.

            • Hammerhead, they can pass whatever they like. Doesn’t mean I’ll be following it.

              • You have that right as a soverign man , but realize it wont blow over with the blue helmets at the door.
                Just makin an observation.

                • Or you could be “swatted”. You know, that unpredictable phenomenon where someone “anonymously” calls and alerts the authorities to some “suspicious activities” at your location. It’ll be easy enough to find a scapegoat to take the blame for placing the call. Meanwhile, the police will photograph and take careful notes on your entire inventory.

                  • They don’t even need a scapegoat. Half the time, cops just CLAIM they received a call when in fact, they did not. They do it all the time as it is.

                    What makes anyone think this will be any different?

                    • I live in the South and never have trouble with the police. I am white but it seems to me that southern cops are not as bad about infringing on rights as other areas. So much for the cop portrayed by the movies of the southern policeman; mirror sunglasses, overweight, and calling blacks…’boys’. The South still has a love for the constitution….even the cops.

              • The ONLY laws that must be obeyed are the laws of physics. All other laws, written by man, are optional.

          • FreeSlave, just like DHS, the Austin police chief is being very vague with the term ‘suspicious behaviour’. He’s definitely had too much federal koolaid. If this was concerning real criminals like the gangs, it would be different. He is too hard-pressed to show any legitimate basis for what he is saying. DHS already claims if we’re self-reliant or preppers that we are domestic terrorists. I say the government are the real domestic terrorists. I’m a gun owner, but I don’t hate anyone or plan anything evil toward anyone. LE can’t stand it when we start looking at them the same way they look at us. What do they expect with the anti-public, anti-American attitudes they have toward us, courtesy of federal influence?

            • “DHS already claims if we’re self-reliant or preppers that we are domestic terrorists.”

              Are you sure? Is it written policy somewhere? Or something that they teach to DHS employees and other federal/State/Local law enforcement folks?

              My wife will have a cow if she hears that preppers are considered domestic terrorists.

              All the more reason for zip the lip and OPSEC.

              • FreeSlave, somewhere online there is a DHS document that list THEIR criteria for a ‘domestic terrorist’. I’ll have to research it, but it’s out there somewhere. If I find the link, I’ll post it. It’s really plain stupid to me.

                • It’s called the MIAC REPORT.

                  • Sixpack, thanks for that. I had a brain fart at the time.

                    • 🙂

              • It is policy. DHS has sent flyers to stores telling them to watch for prepper activity.

                Here’s a sign from Colorado:

                ht tp://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-content/uploads/ColoradoFBISurplusStore.pdf

                Here are some other links:

                ht tp://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/preppers-are-now-considered-to-be-potential-terrorists

                ht tp://survivaljoe.net/blog/dhs-asking-businesses-to-turn-over-info-on-prepper-customers/

                If you read the lists, you will find that everyone on here is a terrorist.

                • At least I know I’m in the best kind of company.

                • Oh man. That’s just wrong. WRONG!

                  Well, this is how I’m gonna play it. I’m not going to stop prepping. Two, I ain’t telling the better half what the DHS thinks of preppers. Nor am I going to inform the wives of several other preppers I know.

                  I grew up liking our country. I’m a vet. Now I’m not so crazy about America anymore.

                  • My family has served in every war our country has ever fought, including the revolutionary war, and has a private cemetery for just fallen heroes in war. Unfortunately I have a lot of relatives in that cemetery, but I was raised to believe they died fighting for freedom and liberty.

                    Even if you ignore that almost half the graves are from the war for Southern independence, which I don’t, it’s hard not to feel they died for nothing these days. I hate the government of Lincoln and will never disarm.

            • ” If this was concerning real criminals like the gangs, it would be different.”

              Sorry RBH, but it is not different. Once they get people telling on each other for one, seemingly justified thing, the rest all fall in line.

              This week, it’s a group of black kids hanging out on a street corner.

              Next, it will be a group of pro-second amendment people at a restaurant.

              PEOPLE ALWAYS GET STUPIDER. Count on it to go further than anticipated/intended, just like everything else .gov.

              • Sixpack, sorry, I had another brain fart. I stand corrected.

        • While we seem to enjoy slamming Blacks and Law Enforcement, You might want to take a look at David Clarke the Sheriff of Milwaukee Co. in Wisconsin. As far as I’m concerned, he has my respect, and he is Black and LE, we need more like him. Trekker Out.

          • MT
            It would be an honor to work for this guy!

          • You wouldn’t believe all the flack he takes constantly. He has the most common sense of any cop out there. Except maybe Sgt. Dale!! He has to campaign as a democrat to keep getting elected because the Milwaukee sheeple are so stupid. They only look at an R Or D next to the name.

            His civil service ads are a hoot. They piss off every anti-gun liberal yuppie out there.
            molon labe

            • Sgt Dale and KY Mom are the two heroes of this site. I almost always read everything they write.

              I only wish Mac would bring back the thumbs up (ONLY) icon (not the down), to help us see posts that others think are helpful. Not having the down thumb removes the trolls and others who want to turn it into a hate/love fest.

              • i liked it with both thumbs it has definitely lost appeal to me i used to see if people agreed or disagreed with me….i usually had thumbs up, but sometimes thumbs down….kept me from posting more than a FEW smart-ass remarks that i KNEW would be downthumbed…..grow a backbone if a few red thumbs are going to be a big deal to you!…redthumb me all you want….oh, WAIT…..you CAN’T….heeeeeee heeeheeeeeeee!

                • The thumbs were gay. Glad they’re gone.

                  • Nobama you seem to be hung up on gay and homo. Really! What does that have to do with the thumbs up or down. I think, no thumbs up or down is Queer! Seems like many on here are afraid of what people think of their comments. Trekker Out.

                • I agree

              • Test
                Thanks for the compliment!

            • That Sheriff in Milwaukee was a target of Bloomberg to try and useat as Bloomberg spent millions of dollars campaigning against him. Of course Bloomy lost again. At least the Sheriff is honest and said the best way to protect yourself is with a gun.

          • You mean Token Black…..

          • What’s worse than blacks or cops, is black cops.

            • Clarke is incredible, and I support him 100%

          • Clarke is incredible, and I support him 100%

        • Hello, 911? I’d like to turn in the Austin police department. Those wackos all have guns and their leader is a true dimwit! He obviously hates this country because he’s ignoring the Constitution and his oath to defend it!!

          • What should we expect from the libtard capital of texas.
            No surprise here , liberals elected a liberal sherrif.
            These people will wake up when there is a hammer and sicle flag flyin over Austin.

            • Austin is the San Francisco of Texas. Bigtime liberal and faggot zone.

          • Wallimiyama, welcome back and I agree. The Austin police chief and his minions better just back off with that crap if they know what’s good for them. OK< I did just like DHS suggested. I saw something, so I said something.

        • YES, I GUESS THINGS ARE KEEPING TPTB UP AT NIGHT– they know we will eventually start fighting back as they steal everything under the sun from us– including our civil liberties… so they want us to snitch on each other– exactly as the Nazis did… its amazing how everything they do is like taking stuff verbatim from Hitler’s play book.

          • they got damn near NUTHIN’ LEFT to steal!

        • When you attempt entry on my property you will die. No question.

          • Well, alrighty then… if I ever start a job with Fedex, I will be PHONING you to come pick up pkg grandma sent you for Christmas. Or make that Festivus. Sorry, I forgot the speech police are monitoring this site….

        • Florida doesn’t put up with any of that Crap. FL Gov signed 5 Pro-Gun bill in to Law this Year. Illegal for Ins Co’ s to discriminate against Gun Owners. Now it is legal to fire a warning shot, and a few more good laws. 1.4 Million Concealed carry permit holders and we are working on legalizing Silencers for hunting. Think about that when you choose where you want to live. I almost moved to Cali 25 yrs ago. What a mistake that woukd have been. 10 day waiting period to get a gun. Being a permit holder in FL I can walk out of any gun shop with any gun I want same day with a big smile. I am buying as many guns as I can afford right now. Best investment going on the planet right now like your life depends on it. Ammo too keep buying everything up. And another FL Gunshow tomorrow…. Whhhoooo hooooo!!!!

          • WWTI, good for you that you live in a good gunlaw state. I do too but I NEVER buy from a dealer anymore. Everything is private, no paperwork. cash for all accessories, never kept in just one place. Buying from dealers is just asking for it imo. Something to think about 😉

          • Anyone that gets a permit is naive as hell. Buy from a friend with no record of the sale. I don’t need their permission and I sure as hell aint paying them for it. Take a look at NY state for proof about pistol permits.

          • Shoot, not only is Idaho gun friendly, even I was surprised when my first two purchases (a Remington 875 20ga for one of the kids, and a ruger 10/22 takedown for one of her younger sisters) were not just completed on the spot, but I wasn’t given a bag or a box for the shotgun. I just walked out with the 10/22 box under one arm and the shotgun over the other shoulder. It was surreal as I walked several blocks to my car and no one even looked at me weird. I walked past a mom loading kids in a mini van, who just smiled, lots of store fronts, a man getting money at an atm in front of a bank, and no one even looked twice as I openly carried a shotgun through town. No one called the cops, no one even looked nervous, and probably no one really even thought twice about it.

            I love Idaho.

            • Oh and open carry is legal everywhere here (no permit needed, even for a full auto with noise suppressor as long as it’s open carry; though the feds disagree) and concealed is legal outside town limits. Permits are only needed for concealed in town limits. Of course I disagree with the concept of permits but here is pretty close to right on this.

              I agree that I don’t need permission to exercise my rights, though I will concede that Idaho’s permits are cheap, easy to get, and the enhanced ones are even good on school campuses.

              • Hooray for the 10th Amendment

        • I think the citizens of Austin need to come together and vet this police chief. Vet his ass right on out the door.

      2. What could be better than see something, say something? How about see someone, shoot someone?

        • oh how about see sumthin’, DO SOMETHIN’!

          • Here very soon we’re gonna see a push to “nationalize” all law enforcement. It’s already begun. Holders already called for a “review” of all procedures. Obamas called for a review of the “militarization” of all police departments, while he directs his DHS to provide military equipment and training to said police. They will call for every department at every level to fall under the guidance of DHS, giving him his “centralized” control.

            • VJ.

              Ever since ferguson and the recent ny mess I have been thinking, what’s their end game? They are intentionally fueling the sheeple for a reason. Your analysis is one of the best I’ve read.

            • That makes perfect sense. If enough problems pop up, it will be easy to justify furthering federal control. They already to this when they assign an overseer, like after a huge civil rights faux pas happens. The feds step in then.

              This would be the next logical step to completing the control goal.

            • Vegas Jim, LE was under federal guidance before 9/11 courtesy of the FBI and after 9/11 DHS was added to the mix. There was a plan in place before 9/11 to create a “national police force.”

        • How about… HANDS DOWN, GET A JOB!

          • I think the apes were chanting “HANDS UP, DON’T WORK”.

            • NoBama, One good thing is only 1 person had to miss work 🙂 AND NOT 1 PAIR OF WORK BOOTS WERE STOLEN!

      3. Until Law Enforcement and politicians can show at least a 100 year record of impeccability in stopping and preventing 100% of all violent crimes in America wherein someone would need a firearm to defend themselves, then the conversation about limiting the 2nd Amendment shouldn’t even have an audience.

        • This man should be removed from office. He is unaware of citizen privacy laws or he does not care about them.

          Russian, Cubans, Nazis, they all started with gun registration for the good of the people and then moved to confiscation of all registered weapons or prison for those who resisted. Anybody see a message here.

          • Yeah, he sounds like Bill Ayers brother.

            • Hey, it’s AUSTIN ! Whaddaya expect?

        • o African Americans overwhelmingly vote Liberal Dem. Liberal Dems favor Big Government. Means more entitlements. But Big Government means More Law Enforcement. And African Americans usually despise Law Enforcement.

          o Obola sides with the race baiters on Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner. But he’s also funding of a militarized police and a militarized government agencies which crack down on rioters, looters, and arsonists.

          o Preppers. Do we side with the rioters or the militarized LEO’s? I mean, you don’t want a horde of these hungry, angry folks coming up your way, so you want armed and ready LEO’s.

          At the same time, you don’t militarized LEO’s searching and invading your property, and so you want the hungry and angry rioting horde to fight the LEO’s back.

          Just seems odd is all.

          • FS
            Man you couldn’t have asked better questions. Or given better answers.

            • Well, these are my preferences which is only a wish list:

              #1. Morality. With all the “shoulds” and “oughts” and teaching and enforcement etc. Of course, that’s gonna raise a huge and unending hoot and a holler, but you gotta start someplace, and that’s mine. More specifics, you say? Okay, Judeo-Christian morality. I didn’t say theocracy. I said Judeo-Christian morality which undergirds our U.S. Constitution.

              #2. All folks, not just minority folks: Stronger, closer married one-dad, one-mom families raising kids or adopted kids. Two gays want to live in civil union together or two lesbians want to live in civil union together? Fine. No to homosexuals adopting kids. Buy a dog or cat instead.

              #3. The number one killer of blacks in America is abortion. Stop the abortion holocaust.

              #4. Law enforcement to courageously stop looters, arsonists, and rioters with the force needed.

              #5. Law enforcement and the Military to disobey and mutiny against the Lawless Lawbreaker Obama if he should order them to do something harmful, like carry out Martial Law because of something he and his inner circle engineered.

              Of course, #1-5 aren’t going to happen. Well except maybe #4.

              So really, all that’s left is to be wise, practical, and prudent. Prep for a collapse that you hope isn’t coming, but that you expect will. And more importantly, surrender your pride and submit to Jesus as King. We all gonna die. So think about life after life.

              • … or as John Adams noted, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

              • @ Free Slave..How about adding that LE obey the constitution and disobey unconstitutional laws… Did you know there is a 25 mile unconstitutional “4th ammendment free zone” around the borders. The border crossings (over paid gate guards with full auto guns) enforce it, but the BP doesn’t ….yet. There is NO such thing in the constitution as a “free zone” of any ammendment including CC into a Post Office, where the most murders were carried out by the postal workers themselves. That should be the First fucking place a citizen should be packin for self defence.

                • From both the Judaic and Christian perspectives, “Judeo-Christian” is an oxymoron in the vein of “defector-believer.”

                  Consider, the two cases, the Christian perspective and the Judaic perspective.

                  Keep in mind that, as the rabbis freely stipulate, Judaism is a POST-Christian religion, hence Christianity preceded Judaism, not vice versa.

                  “Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaptation of custom, and adjustment of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered.”
                  Rabbi Dr. Finkelstein, The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith, The Jewish Publication Society of America (1946) p. xxi

                  If you are a Christian you must believe that Jesus can neither deceive nor be deceived. If so, then you must take Him at His word in both the Old and New Testaments.

                  In Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26 God specified the contract of the Mosaic Covenant. He specified the duties of the Israelites to obey Him, the rewards if they obeyed Him, and the penalties if they disobeyed Him.

                  Please note that God did NOT promise to reward defection with a real estate deal in the Middle East; He promised dispersal and misery.

                  What does God’s Inspired Word in the Old Testament say the Israelites did?

                  rejected Him (1 Kings 8:7), forsaken Him (1 Kings 8:8), served strange gods (1 Kings 8:8), hast not kept the commandments of the Lord (1 Kings 13:13), forsaken the commandments of God (3 Kings 18:18), forsaken the Lord (Isaias 65:11), forgotten His holy mountain [the commandments from Mt. Sinai] (Isaias 65:11), didn’t listen to Him (Isaias 65:11), did evil (Isaias 65:11), didn’t answer Him (Isaias 65:11), chosen the things that displease God (Isaias 65:11), forsake God (Jeremias 2:13), made up their own religion “that holds no water” (Jeremias 2:13), had not done God’s work (Ezekiel 20:23), cast off His laws (Ezekiel 20:23), their eyes were after the idols of their fathers (Ezekiel 20:23), defiled Israel with idols (Ezekiel 36:16ff), profaned His Holy Name (Ezekiel 36:16ff), lying pen of the scribes wrote falsehood Jeremias (8:7ff), they all dealt deceitfully (Jeremias 8:10), sacrificed to idols (Jeremias 44:23), not walked in His law (Jeremias 44:23), disobeyed God’s commandments (Jeremias 44:23), disobeyed God’s Law (Baruch 2:10), the people of Israel will deny the Messiah (Daniel 9:25ff), no truth in Israel (Osee 4:1-2), no mercy in Israel (Osee 4:1-2), no knowledge of God in Israel (Osee 4:1-2), sacrificed to Baalim and other idols (Osee 11:2), covetous in all the Israelites (Amos 9:1), departed from the Law (Malachias 2:8-12), made void the Covenant Malachias (2:8-12), not kept God’s ways (Malachias 2:8-12), despised their brothers (Malachias 2:8-12), committed abominations (Malachias 2:8-12), profaned the holiness of the Lord (Malachias 2:8-12), married the daughter of strange gods (Malachias 2:8-12)

                  Thus, they broke the contract of the Mosaic Covenant. God did not forsake His people or “repent of His gifts,” but His people rejected Him, worshipped false gods, and were wicked.

                  Mind you, this is the “Hebrew Bible” speaking God’s Word. There can be no honest claim that the “Hebrew Bible” is anti-Semitic; it is the Hebrews’ own scriptures.

                  What does God’s Inspired Word in the New Testament say they did?

                  At the time of His earthly ministry He accused the Pharisees of “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men.” [Mark 7:9] He also noted that Moses accused the Pharisees [John 5:45-47], yet another indication of God’s judgment that His people had broken the Mosaic Covenant.

                  What else does God say of them?

                  Accused by Moses (John 5:45-47), adversaries to all men (St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:14), agents of the devil (John 8:44), blind (Matthew 23:26), blind guides (Matthew 23:16, 17, 19, 24), children of Hell (Matthew 23:15), children of the devil (John 8:44), crucifiers (Matthew 23:34), dangerous leaven (Matthew 16:6-12; Mark 8:15; Luke 12:1), defectors (Matthew 15:6; Mark 7:9, 13; John 5:45, 46, 47), deicides (St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:14-15), dogs (Matthew 7:6; Apocalypse 22:16), foolish (Matthew 23:17), full of dead men’s bones (Matthew 23:27), haters of God (John 15:24,25), hypocrites (Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29), idolaters (Apocalypse 22:16), iniquitous (Matthew 23:28), killers of the just (Matthew 23:35), killers of the prophets (Matthew 23:37; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:14-15), liars (John 8:44, 55; Apocalypse 22:16), murderers (Matthew 23:31; Apocalypse 22:15), offspring of vipers (Luke 3:7), purveyors of fables (Titus 1:13-14), serpents (Matthew 23:33), sorcerers (Apocalypse 22:16), swine (Matthew 7:6), synagogue of Satan (Apocalypse 2:9, 3:9), unchaste (Apocalypse 22:16), unclean (Matthew 23:25), vipers (Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33), and whited sepulchers (Matthew 23:27).

                  So, having specified the penalties in the Old Testament, God passed Judgment on the Pharisees and Scribes:

                  axe laid to the root (Matthew 3:10), cast into the fire (Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9), condemned (Mark 16:16), cut down (Matthew 3:10), in vain do they worship me (Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7), judgment of Hell (Matthew 23:33), shall be broken (Matthew 21:44), shall be ground into powder (Matthew 21:44), the kingdom of God shall be taken from you (Matthew 21:43), woe (Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52), wrath (Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16), and you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 23:13)

                  So, those who altered and defected from the Old Testament, Mosaic revelation, are not in the lineage of those who accept and submit to Mosaic revelation. Jesus warned us in Apocalypse 3:9 of impostors:

                  And He pronounced judgment on the fate of the “proselytes” of the Pharisees at Matthew 23:15:

                  So, those who defected from the Mosaic Covenant and rejected the New Covenant are not faithful, but apostate. Hence, “Judeo-Christian” is an oxymoron in the vein of “defector-believer.”

                  What does God tell us about consorting with the unfaithful?

                  2 Corinthians 6:14-15 Bear not the yoke with unbelievers. For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath the faithful with the unbeliever?

                • Amen. Just one more reason to love Idaho because it’s full of so many people like dave.

          • Odd? No. Its the Hegelian Dialectic in action. 🙁

            • Expand on this please, DK. We all know what the Hegelian dialectic schtict is, so rather, explain how you see this dialectic working out **practically.**

              Remember, there are other laws at play here – viz., the law of unintended consequences. (Cf. the last election.) There is also the utter, utter ignorance and hubris of the left (think the mind boggling incompetence of Obunglercare, including their web site that a jr. high student could have done in a week for $200; think Jonathan “I’m stupider than stupid Americans” Gruber.

              We shall await your sage comments!! 🙂

              • Yes there are other “laws” working, other interests and various groups clamoring to be served, but there is no escaping the Hegelian Dialect.

                It is the basis for the NWO Agenda, and there will always be opposing political, social, and economic forces working toward the synthesis they want: a corporate world government controlled by and for the elite.

                Individuals grow old and die. Corporations last in perpetuity if they don’t go broke. If they do, the assets are gobbled up my other corporations.

                FREE TRADE is their rallying cry and the (euphemism) mantra they want Americans to accept as a FREEDOM, when in fact it is the system that will enslave them. Has enslaved them.

                Unfortunately, I do not see FREE TRADE being rolled back. It has advanced too far. In fact, it is set to make stunning advancements under Republican leadership with TPP, and TAP.

                The best that America can hope for is to retain its national sovereignty, sovereign borders, and personal liberties. These will not be secured without a fight. There will be blood.

                Life is plastic and patriots can yet put their stamp upon the life of America, but it requires intelligent, organized leadership. The Liberty Movement has not yet provided that kind of leadership.

                Engage your employees or be enslaved by them, one law, one euphemism, and 3400 new regulations at a time. 🙁

          • Answer: Side with the constitution.

            Police – Arrest looters. Citizens exercise your rights to protect you and yours. Don’t rely on LEO. Put pressure on all LEOs to protect citizens’ constitutional rights (that is their job correct?). Enforce laws equally for everybody. Underprivileged Black citizens get treated the same as everyone else, not gunned down in the streets, not let off the hook for looting, and do not ignore black on white hate crimes. Police breaking the law go before a judge and jury.

            FS, Because you are you are so gummed up in the head with the US vs. Them game you can’t see that this country was built on a plan that works. You don’t have to side with anarchy or autocratic authoritarianism, you can just do the right thing. But, It does mean everybody accepting a little more responsibility.

            • “FS, Because you are you are so gummed up in the head with the US vs. Them game you can’t see that this country was built on a plan that works.”

              Well, if your point is that we’re all made in the image of God, I’ll certainly agree to that.

              But if you think I’m going to hold hands with an ISIS head-chopper and sing kumbayah and that there’s no US vs. Them, you be wrong.

              • This is exactly what happens when people expect to depend on someone else for their own safety.

          • I would love to hear people’s comments on this:

            IMHO, Michael Brown was thug (unfortunately, when we are young, we do a lot of stupid things; he *may* have grown up to be a fine, upstanding man… or maybe just become a worse thug, but that is another question for another time). Here is the question:

            While I am a strong advocate of non-violence (the battle today is with the pen, not the sword. I will leave you, dear reader, to comment on that battle for the world *tomorrow*), and notwithstanding the fact that losing any life made in the image of God is a tragedy, could it be that the death of Mr. Brown, or the chap in NY who was choked to death, is ultimately a blessing in disguise (again, I do NOT want to minimize the death of anyone!)? That is, while I know the Communists, race baiters, etc are all over Ferguson, could it be a silver lining insofar that even the DWTS TV watching sheeple and the “Yes we can-Yes we have no bananas” chanters are becoming aware of the militarization of the police (where Officer Friendly has now morphed into Mr. Black Garbed Ninja kicking in your door with a no-knock SWAT raid? Or think the San Diego SCHOOL district that just got a MRAP).

            So… does the fascist left support the militarized police, which they need a vehicle to control us poor, unwashed masses, OR do they support the anti-police side? Seems to me the left is in a quandry here. stuck between two horns of a dilemma.

            Curious what you folks think. IMHO, this dilemma seems a good thing, as this situation impales the fascist left between those two horns of the dilemma. Comments?

            (And BTW, I use the term “fascist” literally here; recall the Nazis adopted EXPLICITLY socialist planks at their very first convention, Munich, Feb. 1920, and Nazi stands for National SOCIALIST Workers’ Party. And you neo-Nazis on this site, don’t even go there until you have the intellectual honesty to answer this quote from Hitler- which not one of you has had the honesty to do – “There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it… I have always made allowances for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once.” (And that is just ONE of his many quotes indicating the National SOCIALIST (Nazi)/Soviet Communist war was an *internecine* one.

            • “So… does the fascist left support the militarized police, which they need a vehicle to control us poor, unwashed masses, OR do they support the anti-police side? Seems to me the left is in a quandry here. stuck between two horns of a dilemma.”

              I love that the Libs are stuck on the horns of a dilemma that they themselves constructed. You’ve expanded nicely on what I alluded to earlier.

              P.S. Test, if you’d like to drop an e-mail to me at truthunites(at)Hotmail(dot)com, then I’d like to converse more with you about the claim of a Sandy Hook hoax.

              If a bunch of kids really got shot and killed at Sandy Hook, then while there may be inexplicable anomalies that are suspicious, then it doesn’t rise to my standard of a hoax.

              I.e., when someone says Sandy Hook Hoax, then I’m thinking that no one died. But if little kids really died, then no hoax even though there are curiousities about the investigation.

              • I’ll drop you a line.

                I don’t want to sound as if I know for a certainty what happened at Sandy Hook. I don’t. All I know is that there appear to be some serious discrepancies about the story, in toto, and certainly Halbig seems to be on to something. Now, it could be that the kids were killed by a second shooter. Maybe this poor Lanza youth used another type of firearm, and the scam was “merely” to try to stigmatize AR-15s. Could be any one of a thousand other permutations. I really need to do a LOT more investigation into this, so I am open to others weighing in. All I can say for certain is that there something abnormal going on – whether it is something more “minor” or not, I don’t know, and I don’t want to give the impression that I know something I don’t (which I’m afraid I have done!). I do know that my neighbor and good friend is a former Marine sharpshooter and senior IL. state trooper, who used to manage buying equipment for them. He’s no babe in the woods. He is the one who told me about the low penetration of the .223 round, and that it *barely* goes through drywall. ***NOT*** to say it doesn’t! Rather, the point that I meant to make – and didn’t – is that it isn’t like 30.06 round that will go through my house and the houses of the next 50 neighbors!

                What my goal is when I post is to try to put out information – with ***substantiating links**** – so people can get informed. People may disagree with my source links, but we have now moved the conversation to where I want it to be, and away from just more internet effluvia.

                Look for an email from jvanne@********.net

                • No Kids were killed at Sandy Hook. No deathes were registered in the FBI CRIME STATS for that county in Dec of 2012. No Ambulances or medivacs were called to the scene, portapotties there ordered days in advance to Sandy hook and crisis actor parent got to buy foreclose houses a year earlier for a Dollar. It was all a big set up just before the Holidays to help pass the gun ban legislation of Eric Holders. And Obama but it all backfired as nd blew up in their faces. Hard to hide massive fraud.

                • adam lanza did not shoot anyone (and if you think that a pencil-necked autistic kid can somehow drive a car without a license, and perform as an expert marksman when he has never visited a gun range- well, i have a bridge in brooklyn to sell you!). not one person can come forward and say- i saw the guy shoot that kid. and no one did any gunshot residue test on his body- if there even was a body. no one saw any bodies. i could go on, but sandy hook is an urban legend if ever there was one.

                  • I agree completely. No children were shot that day at Sandy Hook. It was a completely fabricated hoax.

                    I still can’t get those images out of my mind of one of the “parents” of a “dead child” who was joking smiling and laughing until he realized the cameras were rolling then immediately began to conjure up some fake tears and began “mourning” for the show.

                    All those “parents” were paid actors. No kids died that day. At least not at Sandy Hoax.

                • I was off and watched the “live feed” of news that day. They cut between a chopper camera and a reporter. The chopper showed a huge dark blood like puddle on the front step of the school but the reporter said everyone was shot inside the school. The coroner stated that everyone was shot with a rifle but the reporter said that the shooter only hand handguns on him. The chopper camera showed the shooters’ car as the police approached it, went through it and then pried open the trunk and took out the rifle. The chopper showed no kids at the school but did show many milling around and around at the firehouse up the hill. That was really odd. If I reached my child after a near death experience I would not be wandering around a parking lot! I would take my child home. And in one chopper shot you could see groups of people go in one door, out the other side of the building and back in another door and come back out on the front side again. Talk about weird behavior if they were acting on their own.
                  I also saw the “dad” talking and laughing when he thought he was off camera. When his name was called he screwed up his face and tried to look very upset as he stepped to the microphone to speak. The next morning “family members” were on Good Morning America and they were happily speaking about their dearly beloved lost 6 year old as if the child was in the next room. Clearly they enjoyed the TV experience and were NOT grieving anyone.
                  Based on the Sandy Hook and Boston Marathon I would not give those people the name “actors” because they are pretty bad. A good follow up on the $1.oo house issue is to ask how many sold their “homes” once the Sandy Hook business was done?

            • TEST’s “Hitler quote” is a fake that is often cherry-picked by Libertarians to “prove” in their Ayn-Randian (a.k.a. Alyssa Rosenbaum) delusional way that National Socialism was the “same” as INTERNATIONAL Communism, and that concerted, organized, COLLECTIVE action against Bolshevism is itself “communistic.”

              Its source is the spurious “Conversations with Hitler” (“Gespraeche mit Hitler”) by Hermann Rauschning, which was first published in the U.S. in 1940 as anti-German propaganda under the title “The Voice of Destruction.”


              From Wikipedia:

              “Between 1938 and 1942, [Rauschning] wrote a number of works in German addressing the problem of the Nazis which were also published in a number of languages including English. His ‘Gespräche mit Hitler’ (‘Conversations with Hitler’) was a huge bestseller but its credibility would later be severely criticised, and it now has no standing as an accurate document on Hitler for historians. However, as anti-Nazi propaganda it was taken seriously by the Nazi regime. At the beginning of the war the French dropped leaflets on the Western Front containing excerpts from Rauschnings writings, but with little response.”


              After the Communist Party of Germany was destroyed by Hitler in 1933, the NSDAP accepted ex rank-and-file communists in minor roles, and later drafted them into the German Army when the war began, but incarcerated or drove into exile all the leadership of the KPD (Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands).

              This fate would have befallen the KPD leadership in any case though for other reasons: apart from the KPD Chairman Ernst Thaelmann, who died in KZ Buchenwald in 1944, and Walter Ulbricht (leader of the KPD Reichstag delegation who fled to the USSR in 1933), much of the top KPD leadership was Jewish.

              For a comprehensive treatment of this subject, see: Johannes Rogalla von Bieberstein, „Jüdischer Bolschewismus: Mythos und Realität. Mit einem Vorwort von Ernst Nolte, Edition Antaios, Dresden 2002.

              • The more undisclosed stuff I read about hitler, the more I think he wasn’t so bad. He obviously wanted to purge his country of commies and thieves. I would vote for him over obammy anyday. At least he loved his country.

                • But, since the neo-Nazis have so little intellectual honesty on this site, let me help you:

                  The 25 Points of Hitler’s Nazi Party
                  1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.
                  2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.
                  3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.
                  4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.
                  5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.
                  6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.
                  We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.
                  7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.
                  8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.
                  9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.
                  10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.
                  Therefore we demand:
                  11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
                  12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
                  13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
                  14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
                  15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
                  16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
                  17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.
                  18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
                  19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.
                  20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
                  21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
                  22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.
                  23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:
                  (a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.
                  (b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.
                  (c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.
                  Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.
                  24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.
                  The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:
                  25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
                  The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
                  The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.

                • And yes, Genius, if Hitler had died in 1937, he may well have been considered a great leader. No one is saying 100% of what he did was stupid and evil. You probably can’t even say that about Pol Pot. But relative to this utterly imbecilic neo-Nazism haunting this site, and its joined-at-the-hip aspect to collectivism, you apologist are embarrassing yourselves.

                  Here are the some planks of the Nazis, adopted in Munich on February 24, 1920: (Yes, yes… I know…. you will either deny or justify this horse manure below. But reasonable people ain’t buying your garbage):

                  “We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living… We demand profit sharing in big business… the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education. . . We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents. . . . The government must undertake the improvement of public health… permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good” foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good”

                  Nazi stands for the Nazionale Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei – the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party. Was it just a name, as some say? Then why did the Nazi’s introduce the “Reichsarbeitsdienst” – the National Labour Svc that had public work systems; why the “Kraft durch Freude,” where the STATE even took care of the leisure time of workers?

                  No the Nazis did not advocate public ownership of production, only that the govt oversee and run the economy, as they knew that legal ownship wasn’t what counted, but rather CONTROL. So, private citizens could hold title – as long as the state had the unqualified right to use their property. I.e., de facto socialism, the STATE still controls. Or, as Carl Limbacher wrote in NewsMax, Dec. 5, 2005, “Benito Mussolini’s Fascist economic policy, which he called the “mixed economy,” tried to combine Marxism with capitalism. What resulted was a dictatorship which allowed limited economic freedom to those favored industries willing to operate under government patronage.” The observant among you will note well the phrase “operate under government patronage.”

                  Even the term “fascism” comes from the word “fasces,” which is a bundle of sticks tied together for strength – y’know, the whole collectivism thing again.

                  I think going forward, I will just ignore you neo-Nazis. I like to have intelligent debates, but clearly that is impossible with you types.

              • Oh boy. More of the Nazi schtict again, is it? My source for this is the highly regarded Richard Vetterli and Willam Fort’s book, The Socialist Revolution. But here is a clue for you: HAVE the intellectual honesty and go look up the planks the National SOCIALIST Workers’ Party adopted Feb., 1920, at their very first convention in Munich, OK.

                Even G.B. Shaw, who was a Fabian socialist, knew the truth:
                “Mussolini practices more positive socialism than many of his adversaries whose names are inscribed in the party role.”

                Ludwig von Mises on socialism and Nazis (N.B.: von Mises fled from the Nazis to Switz n 1934, and then to the US in 1940). His Ph.D was from U. of Vienna, and he taught as several US universities): “… Mussolini, the outstanding man in Italian socialism, chose at first the orthodox Marxian position. Nobody could surpass Mussolini in Marxian zeal… the programme of the Fascist, as drafted in 1919, was vehemently anticapitalistic… fascism was not… an original product of the Italian mind. It began as a split within the ranks of Marxian socialism.” (p. 525f, The Socialist Revolution) and “The philosophy of the Nazis, the German National Socialist Labour Party, is the purest and most consistent manifestation of the anticapitalistic and socialist spirit of our age.” Von Mises, p. 528f

                Richard Vetterli and Willam Fort’s book, The Socialist Revolution also note “The collectivist systems of Communism and Fascism belong not on the opposite extremes … their characteristics demand that they share a position side by side on the left” and that Nazism and Communism, in their totalitarianism and collectivism, share “close proximity.” (p.2 – 3)

                “There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it… I have always made allowances for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once.” (p. 4)

                • And the famed F.A Hayek also noted as below. No matter how frantic you become, your precious fascism and communism are two sides of the same evil coin. Period, end of story.

                  “No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.”

                  • Another quote from the real founder of fascism, Mussolini:

                    “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

                    The discerning will clearly see where communism and National SOCIALISTS (for some reason the neo-Nazis here can’t seem to bring themselves to use the name the Nazis THEMSELVES called themselves, but what the heck) where fraternal twins, separated at birth. No, not identical twins, but definitely sharing much of the same socialist DNA.

                    No doubt the neos here will frantically deny this, say it was cherry picked, misquoted, or something. Anything but admit the truth: Nazism was just as vile as Communism.

                    Next these guys will probably start defending Joseph Mengele and Aktion T-4. Watch for it!

                    • Test, Where did I ever say I defended nazis? Damn man calm down, I just said I’d rather have him than obammy. Besides this is a fascist communist country we live in here. Hitler would be proud of what we have done to ourselves lol 😉

            • The post lost my interest as soon as it got into the minutia of titles.

              There is evil and good….period. The left, right, marxist, communist, liberal, fascist etc. etc. is all obfuscation.

              Forget groups and titles. There is His word and then there is everything else….EVIL.

              As far as Sandy Hook, I no longer need evidence to back up any claim that this govt and all it’s tentacles are pure evil.

              Dad always told me, “don’t believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.” He just forgot or didn’t know to add, “especially when it comes to government and the government’s bought and paid for whores, the media.”

          • The enemy of my enemy is STILL my enemy.
            The original Arab saying is a binary mental trap.

        • You don’t have the right to negate a God given right for ANY reason.

          • Amen, Mark

            • Rights can’t be negated, only infringed upon. They are endowed by our creator and would exist even in a vacuum. My rights, and the exercise thereof, require nothing from anyone and cannot be taken away for any reason, but they can be infringed upon by the dumb masses and government.

              Be ever vigilant.

        • this guys concentrating on everybody, not just criminals. the idiot will be stretched so thin that they will ineffective and then out of frustration people will go to jail (innocent people)

        • SS, I agree. Politicians and LE don’t have a leg to stand on. Our rights are not negotiable, period!

          • Agree too, 100%. Our rights, per the Constitution, are granted by our Creator. They are thus irrevocable (unless you are God, which apparently it appears the Dear Leader fancies himself).

            • Ahab Answered You TEST: it seems you fell for another of the many “hitler said, Hoaxes”…

      4. Don’t worry guys. It’s just me, Art.

      5. I think his speech sounded better in the original German text from January 30, 1939.

        • Good shot. No pun intended. well maybe.

        • Amen! The parallels are really getting creepy. May whatever God we pray to have mercy on our souls.

          • Just got back from a Florida Gun show. The line going in was like 80 to 100 yrds long. More women shopping this time. Buy sell trade open carry. The smell of Freedom and the safest place in town.

            • I won’t attend gun shows anymore. They support guns, but not the 2nd amendment.

              There is probably a much better way to word this?

        • ““If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
          Joseph Goebbels

          EI: gun control is for your own safety

          Turn in your nutty neighbor , for your own safety.

          Register your firearm , for your own safety

          Seems like the government has my safety at the top of their list .
          Makes me all warm n fuzzy inside.

          • Hammerhead, let me amend that: Resist government tyranny and anyone else with bad intentions toward you for your own safety.

            • That Quote Hammerhead posted is also another taken OUT of full context. The orig is far longer and when read fully In context shows that what most folks want to believe IE That Goebbels was promoting how to scam german folks etc is Bunk.

              Consider that: he was broadcasting on Radio at the time, and was Explaining TO germans HOW the Bolshevik Jewish Kommies opperated!…How jewdeo kommies scamed the Russian et al folks by their total control, and trying to scam German folk also, and by use of the much Feared jewish members and jew run kommie “CHEKA” secret police aka Hit squads of Killers who killed off disenters and entire familys of disenters….

              To think he was telling german folk of what his and german govnts plans were to overtake its own citizenery is absured at best!…He was Warning German folk to beware of jewish run communism tactics!

              Lennins very First ussr state law once the soviet jewdeo powers actually took power as recognized by USA and euro nations govnt’s…Was a Law to forbid what lennin called “antisemitism” in all possible forms. IE: Anybody that dared to speak freely or publically that YES communism was a jewish Invented Red Terror machine of Mass Death, vicious unspeakable tortures of Non jewish goys and white christian folks, were subject to CHEKA forms of Instant Death.

              NO trail, NO jury, NO judge, NO Real actual charges! Just the meere “suspission” a person “May” have said something about jew run communism, or said they hated it for what it was etc..Was all it took for a nite time CHEKA squad of killers to pay You a visit and kill You and the entire family…Then steal Your home and all possessions to then GIVE it ALL To some jew family that were certified bonafied Kommies…

              It seems obvious that the main reason most folks when describing soviets, ussr, russian kommies etc etc always start with Joeseph Sthalin, instead of a proper start with Lennin and Trotsky and kangavich et al..

              Because that way they can keep the main Taboo of jew alive and never mention how it was ALL begun and Run By jewish persons male and female alike. Sthalin did kill off a few jews he suspected or was worried may try to overtake Him as leader etc…So I suspect thats another reason many jewish folk or their many defenders also prefer to forget of lennin and trotsky and start with Joe Sthalin….Good that some folks knows about such and does mention it as the Facts that it is.

              Ignoring the huge role played in communism and bolshevism by Jewish folks also minimizes the role played by Germany in attempting to Rid the world of kommies before they could takeover germany, which was the main HUB of engineering and industry etc of european nations. And once germany fell to soviet jewdeo kommies, the kommies then would have the largest nation on earth in size and natural resources, Russia…But also have Germany and once fully in control of Both would Then be able to make their evil moves to communize America and Canada and all nations on the usa side of ocean. Or in other words Once germany would fall to jewdeo kommie rule, the Entire world could soon be a NWO or a Jwo of total kommie rule and by now 2014 nobodys be here alive and the whole world be swimming in human blood up to the tree tops, if them kommies didn’t also burn them down too.

              General George Patons diary where his entry speaks of how usa fought the Wrong people in WWII carries much weight.

              There never would have been any more kommies or not enough to do serious dammages again, No cold war scam for 50 years, no future threats of kommie crap ever again if we instead would have assisted germany in ridding world of jewdeo kommunism.

              Now due to that massive error, it is going to be Your kids and grandkids fighting kommies and very probobly doing so Here on usa soil…It really is too bad Patton was bashed for telling Truths, then obviously assasinated the day he was to come back to usa, where most believed he’d run for office, have zero trouble to win a landslide election as usa Prez if patton so desired. Much we suffer today would have been averted if that occured.

              IMHO General Patton was one of if not the greatest usa army general ever. And likley The Most Honest and Un bribeable of all. Too bad america today has no such jewdeokommiewized-up man to be us prez/leader eh.

              oh I suppose there are several maybe even many such men out there today…However as long as the entire MSM Press reisdes in the hands of the same type jewdo kommies, anybody such that tried to be noticed or make a run for prez would be fast shut down by every TV msm news head calling him a nazi-antisemite-raysis-hater worse than hitler even. He’d be comboed with Ron Paul teratment combined with being David Duked into oblivion land asap.

      6. It’s another page from Orwell’s “1984,” in which ratting out another wasn’t just expected, it was celebrated. The old saying, meant to be wry and funny, has turned out to be utterly true: “1984” isn’t a work of fiction, it’s apparently a playbook.

        • Too funny! Well, actually, sad. But you hit the nail on the head!

          But you did miss Machiavelli’s “The Prince” and Saul Alinsky’s famous work, literally dedicated to Lucifer (dedication, forward, whatever you want to call it, it IS there, as I owned the book from when the fascist left profs made me read it while at university years ago. If finally fell apart… just as Alinksy’s filth will fall apart – and exactly as his USSR fell apart.

          • TEST: Heres that Lucifer dedication you spoke of…

            “To the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer.”

            “Organization for action will now and in the decade ahead center upon America’s white middle class… Our rebels have contemptuously rejected the values and the way of life of the middle class. They have stigmatized it as materialistic, decadent, bourgeois, degenerate, imperialistic, war-mongering, brutalized and corrupt.”

            — Saul Alinsky’s dedication and quote from his 1971 book “Rules for Radicals.” Born to Russian Jew immigrants in Chicago, Alinsky’s Marxist tactics were taught by Obamma in lefty community groups like ACORN.

            • Yes, exactly. So… in the interests of getting rid of the bourgeois degeneracy, may I suggest that Michelle-Marie “Let them vacation in St Kitts” Antoinette Obama cut back her vacations to just one every three months, instead of once a month?

              Just a suggestion. Y’know… in keeping with Alinsky’s dictums, and which I’m sure the Obungler’s agree.

        • ““1984″ isn’t a work of fiction, it’s apparently a playbook.”

          I’ve been thinking the same thing. It may be the answer to the question, “Does art imitate life or does life imitate art”, as modern society is being modeled on what Orwell had written.

          At the rate were going, Mr Orwell with I’m sure no desire to achieve this status may become the most influential person in political history. This reminds me of a Star Trek episode, “Piece Of The Action”, where an entire society modeled itself after a book about the gangsters of the roaring 20s.


          • “Conservative” FOX News censors and downplays murder of Zemir Begic.

            After the BS in Ferguson, this Bosnian newlywed was beaten to death by a gang of blacks simply because he was White. They killed him using HAMMERS. That’s his new wife beside him — she had to witness her husband’s brutal murder. Whites are getting attacked all over because of this Michael Brown BS (along with the usual criminal behavior of worthless blacks). So how come they don’t report on such things like they do with blacks? It’s because they want to keep us WHITES STUPID, while continually jacking up blacks and libtards. Haven’t you figured that one out by now? [INCOG] (Has Photo of He and wife).

            “Saturday Nite/Sunday Morn. Black teans screaming “Kill the WHITES!!” Attacked at Least Three White people..

            Zemir Begic had his face smashed in with two different hammers, killing him. FOX News is actually reporting that Begic’s wife was present during the murder, which would make her victim number four.

            Three blacks have been arrested aged 15, 16, and 17. Police are looking for more suspects.

            Yet, FOX News censors the race of the perpetrators, only calling them “teens.” However, FOX News writers felt the need to remind us at the top of the article that Mike Brown is “a black man.”

            Then FOX News tells us FIVE TIMES that the killing was not racially motivated. Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary! Despite the fact the perps were screaming “kill the white people.”

            LAST WEEK: a twelve year-old White boy, Keith Passmore, was shot in the head and killed by a black man, right before leaving a birthday party for a black classmate. No witnesses came forward and none of the blacks at the party have cooperated with police. They don’t care. Of course, the local media censored the race of the wanted perp — they barely reported the crime in the first place.

            BOTH articles With Proper Photos and Links to articles origin are at www dot incogman dot Net

            Welcome to BRA-ZOG AmeriKa folks.(bra=black run america, zog = zionist owned govnt).

      7. “homegrown extremists that are lone wolfs, that are mad at the world, that are angry…”

        Who they calling angry?

        • Yah, I herd they look for loners. So I started driving around in my Van offering people candy if they will be my friend. What?

          • Justice, I hope you weren’t asking them to help you find your puppy.

            • No, I thought that might sound kind of creepy.

              • That’s true. I wouldn’t help you find your puppy, but I would be your friend for some candy. I prefer butterfingers. Trekker Out.

              • Place a human like blow up plastic suzy love dool in passenger seat!…”See! NO lone Wolf here folks!”

                also place bumper sticker on car saying “AmeriKa is at that awkward state…It is too late to work within the system….Yet too soon to begin to shoot the bastards!”
                Claire Wolfe, 2000

          • LOL , So that was YOU ??

        • I certainly am not “angry”, disenfranchised? Absolutely, but not “angry”. I don’t have the time to be “angry”, I’m too busy working to pay my taxes that are confiscated by law and redistributed to the, “angry” people.

        • Wowzers

          The only place I know of where there are lots of angry people with lots of guns is the Middle East maybe this policeman needs to looooook over there. Lets see how far his gun control scam gets him over there.

        • Expand on this please, DK. We all know what the Hegelian dialectic schtict is, so rather, explain how you see this dialectic working out **practically.**

          Remember, there are other laws at play here – viz., the law of unintended consequences. (Cf. the last election.) There is also the utter, utter ignorance and hubris of the left (think the mind boggling incompetence of Obunglercare, including their web site that a jr. high student could have done in a week for $200; think Jonathan “I’m stupider than stupid Americans” Gruber.

          We shall await your sage comments!! 🙂

      8. The perverted logic of President Obama and the hysterical antigun agencies is simple:

        1. Terrorists use guns

        2. Therefore, anyone with a gun is a terrorist

        • “Logic” for them is a collection of words organized in such a fashion formulating an ostensible excuse to further an agenda.

      9. Quick! Someone send Chief Acevedo a phone book so he will know who all the gun owners are.

      10. Guns? Lost ALL my guns in that tragic boating accident.

        What keeps him up is this? What the hell! What about the millions of illegals that are in his state and area? Where are they from and what are they doing here? No just take the guns away from the common every day Joe with an opinion!
        This guy is about as dumb as they come. Lone wolf is bad , but wait until the PACK of wolfs attack and then let us watch him squirm! If he tries to take guns away that is when the PACK Attacks, and there is nothing he can do about it. He they can’t even control Ferguson and they aren’t using guns.
        Just because you don’t like a group of people, or you are gun enthusiast or you have a collection of firearms, or you think that the Government is wrong, doesn’t give anyone one the right to take your firearms away from them.
        This turd thinks you are guilty if you have a mind and can think.
        Let me see the last time a lone wolf did something he was found to be on some kind of drug, or he was working for the government or under the care of the government. Sandy Hook comes to mind, Colorado comes to mind.
        This damn thing is getting us ready for Dec. 24 present from the UN. The UN can’t control 3rd world countries with all of their AK’s and AR’s how do they think they are going to control the Patriots of the USA? They are going to send in UN forces to do it. I don’t think so “Tim”. There will be a revolution not only against anyone in our government that backs this, but the whole world. No more help from the USA, They will go into complete anarchy, most will starve to death some will die of the simplest of disease. Suck to be them!
        If I get an order to take a gun away from someone that has done nothing wrong other than have an OPINION they can KISS MY ASS! Even if it is BJ who hates me.

        • But if I didn’t obey one of the corp codes or public policies that you enforce, you’d try and ticket or detain and arrest me. And when I argued about it, you’d consider that resisting arrest and “kick my ass,” I think was the way you put it yesterday. Probably even to the point of choking me to death or shooting me if I made a wrong move.

          Nice attempt at redemption after you so blatantly showed yourself and your “think”………..won’t work.

          • BJ
            There you go again saying something I didn’t say. I said if you fight with me I would kick you ass. If you argue with me I will just tell you see you in court.
            I never said if you argue with me I would think it was resisting arrest. Only if you fight with me or try to run away.
            By the way I wasn’t asking for redemption from you, because there is nothing for you to forgive. I was just stating a fact.
            Please don’t try to pull this with the cops. I don’t want to see you get hurt. You can talk big all you want , and if you try this with a cop you will get your Ass Kicked. I really don’t want to see or hear of that.

            • We all saw how tough the cops were at the Bundy ranch. Chris Dorner had em so petrified they were shooting random people.

            • Ionce argued with a deputy at 2am on the side of the road in the pouring rain .
              He wanted me to take a PBT , I wouldnt.
              Then he said he would hafta take me in , and i said i wasnt going anywhere.
              So we argued about what he could and couldnt do for an hour in the rain.
              In the end he saw my point of view , said to hell with this and we went our separate ways.

              Argueing a point dont equal resisting nothin but a lie .

              • HH
                I agree arguing a point is not resisting. I never have ever arrest someone for arguing.
                Now for running away from me after they were told that they were under arrest, or getting physical. Now that is resisting.
                Let get back to the turds what to take our guns.

                • SARGE
                  “Let get back to the turds what to take our guns.”

                  I worry more about the patriot act or EO 12919 than i do bloomberger and his minions or this libtard sherif that really aint worth two cowpies in a thousand acre pasture.
                  His opinion and five bucks will buy coffee at starbucks.

                  Stay focused , the left hand is hiding the truth while the right hand is presented.

            • I never said you were asking me for redemption. It was in a broad sense to the board after finally telling everyone who you really are yesterday.

              How was I talking big?

              Pull what with the cops?

              Out of curiosity…would every single person on this board get their ass kicked if they tried what ever it is your referring to trying, with a cop, some of the biggest cowards to walk the earth?

          • Clark T.??

            • Huh?

          • The main biggest Fear right now of the leftist marxist fools is evidenced by the way every major msm tv news including FOX TV downplays EVERY incident, and they number Many! of Whites attacked by hatefull radical savage Black attackers.

            What that major Fear consists of is this: These total kommie rulers of usa fears that soon enough White folk, which are the main firearm owners nationally, are going to Wake Up!…And once fully awake are going to really go all “Nazi/KKK” all Over these Savage sub human like attackers and put so many Down by fierarms that the entire plot of marxist kommies in control of america today will quickly fall apart totally.

            For most all these kommies desires and still have left to acomplish fully depends upon their ownership/controls of aprox 50-Million such savage blacks.

            These komies understand they cannot EVER overtake America as they did in Russia 1918, until they first genocide all or close to all White folk nationwide. And That is a definate must do before they can scam swindle our entire nations massive stores of yet drilled/mined resources. And make the entire USA, Their and theirs alone huge playgorund where such kommies can reside in total safty and well apart from ALL others…SEE: Rabid state of Israel for example number One.

            And who other than savage blacks trained for past 100 yrs to hate and despise whiteys, along with hoards of same type trained illeagle 3rd world mestizos, are even remotely capable of completing this huge task of genocideing whites?…Nobody else is who!

            Whats the ONE main thing that could ever possibly Upset these evil kommies plans?…Whiteys acting together as a huge armed force to be rekoned with thats what!

            Add it up all you Math wizards…Disarm whiteys evidenced by at least 50+ years of constant jewdeo leftists antigun orgs etc…

            Tens of Millions, a aprox likely 30+ Million by Now of Illeagle Immigrants mostly 3rd worlder mexicans.

            Plus add in, 50+ million Spitefull Hate filled Savage Blacks who even after $20-TRILLION spent to civilize, patronize, passify said savage blacks has failed big time, evidenced by continuations of same Ol’ Same Ol’ Jungle minded savage tendencies as displayed 24/7 by the savages.

            Add in: Hundreds of Billions of dollars spent and still being spent combined with Loud non stop calls for more “Gun Controls” mainly by 300+ Private jewish orgs, with ADL & SPLC taking the Main Lead.

            Add in: Bribed fully corrputed polititions of both major parties.

            With One Uppity-Arrogant Monky Chimp like Kommie marxist Prez of usa.

            Mix it after adding it see what type “melting Pot” that gives you!

            When such many savage blacks, mestizos and radical kommie jew zionists were included/added To that Original usa melting Pot…

            It was Akin to You stiring a huge soup Pot of Stew on the stove, and your neighbor arrives to toss into stirred huge stew pot a Dozen Rats! with an additional Multi Dozens of Cockroaches….Who’d eat That stew?

            Wellcome to modern day usa. Where every Spring and Fall fashion line consists of, Whitey Guilt and abject cowardice galore.

            And More Rats and More Cockroaches…Always more rats and cockroaches.

        • Pig,

          Allow me to relate to you why I hope all cops get shot.

          I have never been arrested or been in trouble with the law in my life. Yet when I was 16 a pig on a routine traffic stop reached through the window and started choking me screaming at me to give him the drugs. There were no drugs and I did not smell like drugs. When I reported it the Sgt. told me I was a “little smartass from up on the hill” and I needed to “grow up”. Now when working toward my three black belts I visualized beating the shit out of a cop. Every day I carry concealed I visualize being forced to shoot a psycho cop. YOU PIGS form my mental image of a bad guy. Now I listen to you fucking pigs whining about how much the public hates you. Sound cynical? Hard- boiled? YOU EARNED IT.

          • Acid,
            Krav Maga IMO will help you more….JMHO

          • Acid; you just hate everybody,cops would be mystified if you didn’t mention them.

          • Acid; We know you hate everybody. The cops would be mystified if you left them out.

          • DAMMIT! Where’s the green thumbs when I need them.

            +1000 AE!

            And, for every instance you know, there are another 10,000 you don’t.

            They’ve been doing it for years and we’ve kept our mouths shut because of fear and respect. Well, sorry, its all gone.

            Just wait until a good sumaritan blasts a cop because the violent beast is killing someone. Watch what happens. Its coming. You will see two sides: The Government vs The People. It has probably already happened but they buried it somehow. But, they can’t do that forever.

            One day, it will pop and The Corporate Goon Squad will show that they don’t give one little toot for Americans or The People. At that point, it will be on. Ferguson wasn’t it. Even though the officer could have behave differently, nobody is mourning the loss of that thug and nobody is caring about his violent, thug family. But, someday, the guy the gets shot will be a good guy and the guy doing the shooting will be a cop. Thats when the games will start.

            They will, however, avoid this as long as possible. …in order to get the guns. …they think. Because, once they get the guns, they can just slaughter us with impunity. Democide. Them and their fancy uniforms, new vehicles and unlimited ammo caches against the nitwit Untermensch.

            Best learn now where your enemies live. …and it might be a good idea to move some guns and ammo into some alternate places.

            Remember, when they knock on the door, its way too late. Just submit. They can take all your guns but you can remember their faces and their names.

            • Condor hit the Bullseye again. Great facts they don’t teach us children in Public Commi School.

          • Acid, I sometimes feel like you when I read or encounter thug cops. BUT, not all cops are bad in fact there are some pretty good ones (considering). Sarge is one of the good ones, if you encounter a bad one use your fighting ability and kick his ass and run. But you had better leave town in a hurry lol…

          • You can’t blame the cop. He was right, you’re still a little smart ass. Trekker Out.

        • Good day, Sarge. AMEN to your comments. Any attempt at gun confiscation will fail miserably.

          • RBH
            Who are you? Did you have a good Thanksgiving?

            I picked up a barreled receiver 91/30 Nagant.
            going to cut down the barrel, and put a AR15 M2 flash hider. With a scout scope mount and Burris LER 2X7X32 scope, with a Archangel tan stock. The barrel has great rifling and should be a great shooter.

            I hope they don’t try to take the guns because it will be hell in the USA. There are just too many people that are not ready for this. They think Ferguson riots were bad they have NO IDEA what will come!!!
            Stay safe my fried.

            • Sarge, yes, my thanksgiving was TOO good thanks to overindulgence of certain cuisine but I’ve been working to get that extra weight off. I started my xmas shopping early. Today I bought a new Ruger SR22 pistol. Will be picking up some extra mags for it on Sat. and Sun. I’ll go to the range to try it out. I have another gun show in my area on Dec. 13-14. That’s another xmas shopping trip for me. I will be making the most of this one. The antigun scum had better back off unless they really want some ‘lead nutrients”.

              • trb

                The SR22 is a fine little sidearm..perfect pocket pistol.

                Know we’ll hear from the choir how ineffective 22lr is..

                any caliber is ineffective in the hands of a lousy shot..

                former Pres. Reagan knew how effective the 22 was>>?

                as well as James Brady..

                Enjoy your new purchase


                • Possee, thanks for the tip. I get so sick of hearing that age-old argument against the .22LR. I always make the point of referring everyone to Wikipedia for the story on Reagan’s assassination attempt. Brady was disabled for life and Reagan lost more than half of his blood when he was in the operating room. SHOT PLACEMENT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF FIREARMS USE. That’s what my firearms instructor taught me back in the 70s. As long as you can make the bullet go where you want it to go, any caliber will do the job. .22s were used for assassinations in Vietnam.

              • RBH
                I don’t know if you have a long range rifle. To keep it on the cheap I would look into the Nagant. You can get 2 for the price of anything else. I would look at the M44 or type 53. Ammo is cheap to.

                • Sarge, I will look for one Dec. 13-14.

                • Sgt.

                  .. at the local shop yesterday a LEO just purchased the S&W Shield 9mm as his personal carry..uses 115 grain which would limit the kick..salesman pulled out his Shield as well..never jams,stovepipes etc…any experience with this model?



            • When Black people Riot Neighborhoods Burn, When White people Riot Continents Burn!!!

              Give em.. Hell Sarge!!

              Semper Fi

        • Sgt. Dale you should run for sheriff! You would make a good one. It’s rare to find a man with balls that isn’t just a yes man puppet and would do the right things. I would even donate to your campaign. Thanks for being here 🙂

          • Genius:
            Thanks for the compliment!
            No I’m not going to run had thought about it several times, but too political here. I’m not in the Good Old Boys Club. An TPTB know that I’m not a Revenue collector and would do every dirty little trick they can to defeat me. Like money under the table for the Dem, or The Rep. election sign missing. The dead voting. Crap like that. There are too many uninformed people in the county that would believe them.
            Another thing is that I’m planning on being in Tenn. in 3 years at the latest, and the election is 4 years away.
            But thanks for the compliment.

            • You don’t know or comprehend the constitution well enough to hold the highest office with a position of the highest authority in the county. And you belong to an organization that is run on the good ole boy system, and that can’t be at the Sheriff level, or at least shouldn’t be. Your PD is the same as the rest of them across the land, the large and small ones. The record of your captain, James, is a perfect example of that.

      12. Hey Acevedo……….Come and get’em………

        • 🙂

      13. Vets every government department, what with their billion rounds of hollow points and all…

      14. Dear Chief Art Acevedo, I think I see illegal activities needing your immediate attention. As a citizen I am obligated to inform our beloved LEs. This is what I know and I hope you act on it:

        1- There is a group mainly located in Washington DC working in two houses and one
        puppet who works ( if you can it as such) and lives in the white house.

        2- It seems these parasitic Zionist owned SOB’s are creating unjust wars and supplying
        all sort of weaponry to their paid criminals i.e. ISIS to commit war crimes by killing

        3- They all have fully armed gate keepers to protect them and most of them also carry
        there own pieces while trying to prevent normal peasants to own any firearm.

        So Dear Chief Art Acevedo…..Can you give us safety by arresting these ZOG parasites
        since they truly are clear and immediate danger to the humanity?

        • Better yet, join Barry’s Band of Bigoted Brownshirts, so that you can attack anyone who MIGHT be Jewish. Ignore the mosques, ignore the Palestinian thugs, ignore the black Communist thugs and the illegal immigrant gangbangers. Go to the synagogues and JCCs, bust up the delis.

          In case you did not hear it from your Grand Wizard, the JPFO is one of the best Gun Rights organizations today, better than the NRA by a mile.

          • yes, they want jewish people armed, but the rest of us DISARMED.

            • But NONE of those Vincent named Runs the USA!

              STOLZ: Welcome to “The Jewnited Snakes of AmeriKa” aka ZOG occupied fed govnt.

              if I had Don Trumps cash I’d buy hundrds of billboards and place That exact quote on EACH to awaken the asleep at wheel foolish whites of usa.

              ps Vincent are you aware that DHS so far since they first began aprox 5 yrs ago to pass out FREE Cash of taxpayer moneys to NON profit Orgs to Beef up security against “terriorists” attacks etc has given at least a Grand Total of $150+ MILLION us dolalrs or aprox 97% total DHS pay out cash TO…ONLY Jewish orgs snd synagouges.

              If left claims a “Wall of seperation between govnt and religion” Then Why did fed govnt DHS dept GIVE away FREE 97% of the total dhs budgeted Cash only TO jew Orgs?

              Also consider that those jewish orgs represent ONLY less than 2% general POP of usa…

              I guess that seperation Wall only exists if its christianity is the issue eh…Jewry gets special treatment due to jews Wail loudest and no others can Wail or complain like jewry can right.

              Face it…Like Black americans jewry in usa has Lost its Fear-MOJO and today it almost falls on deaf ears when they try labeling folks as antisemites or haters..Internet has exposed jewrys Many, Far too many swindle scams…But that Other 98% POP of Us goys considers such expose’ as a Good thing.

              It really amazes me that even now today jewry as a whole thinks they can keep getting away with all they do forever without getting caught and without many folks awakening to those many scams.

              The days of “We been HoloHoaxed!” and “We Been Kosherized” are over. And we has Plenty of room for true patriotic jewish folks to join Us…”IF” they can Ever tear themselves away from their Lock-step Kommie like bonds with them not so patriotic and dual citizen jewry members eh.

          • Vincent…per your comment I am sure you are Jewish or a member of Glenn Beck family. First of all I don’t believe in any Grand Wizard crap. I believe in God as the sole power in charge of human destiny. Now everyone you labeled as thugs are either blacks, Palestinians, illegal immigrant gangbangers and so on EXCEPT the master planners who are actually the Zionist Jews. The puppet in charge who was placed in the white house was hand picked by your tribal members in AIPAC and those in control of the crime house named WallStreet…. Brownshirts who you are referring to are all Zionists surrounding the puppet in the white house.

            Also no one except criminals supports violence against innocents…if a cop kills an innocent black, white or any god damned race he/she must be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law and the same goes for the civilians.

            I am sure there are Jews that are fine people who are against the Zionists in charge causing world wide blood shed of the innocents. Which side are your with?

            The issue is people worldwide are waking up so labeling crap by the ZOG is not working. For decades the same tool was used against Germans to collect ransom which still is continuing but it will end soon and you better believe it.

            • This PROVES Stolz Corrcet on Whom “Placed” the Black Kommie “REsident” in the usa whitehouse!

              “We Jews are a sly and surreptitious people. It pains me to admit this, but candor compels. …[T]he best way to bring America to its knees, to weaken its will to survive, to cleverly turn it against itself, was to do everything in our considerable arsenal of means to deliver the White House to Barack Obama.”

              — David Solway, Jewish educational theorist and critic
              July 7th,2009 He’s using mockery here — that’s how instinctively deceptive these people are — they boldly state reality like it’s all nothing but a joke, so as to mollify the foolish Goyim.

              Look how swell so many Goys eats it up too!

              Especially them what insists americas foundation was somehow founded on any Jewdeo principals! aka jewdo-christian founded usa!…I Challange them types to provide ONE founder fathers quoted statement of such a jewdeo foundings!….It don’t exist, same as their bless jews bible verse that none can find does not exist in the bible.

              I have read Tons of orig founder statements in Federalists and anti-federalists papers and yet to see a single such quote that any fouders claimed any such jewdeo foundations of america…I HAVE seen and Read Tons that state “YES america was founded on NEW testement Biblical Principals of Christianity”…Not Any so called oxymoron of jewdeo christian though…Just another invention of preachers and their zio handlers eh.

        • 🙂


          But, unfortunately, I think you would find he knows them well.

          They sign his check.

      15. Most local oinkers are too busy collecting “bounty” from motorists to care about your weapons. They need to make sure their masters coffer’s are full…who gives a fuck if the equipment works right or not. They’re pretty much all corrupt and only care about their bloated pensions and caddilac bennies:


      16. Folks don’t often know that police departments are business corporations with an imperative to increase profits each year just like any other commercial concern. So, what this chief is asking is the same as K-Mart asking neighbors to rat out Wal-Mart shoppers so they can be bombarded with high-pressure advertising to rather shop at K-Mart. In the case of police, they’re ‘selling’ a particular Social Order that permits subjugation.

        • Wow! Hey BJ! We got another corporate understander!

          Welcome to the comment section, Pat!

          The Act of 1871. Gotta love it!

        • Amen and hallelujah. Someone else is TRULY awake and gets it……welcome Pat.

        • Pat
          You are right.
          When I became a cop we were Peace Officer.
          Today we are LEO’s. Most D.P’s are nothing but revenue collectors for the city. This Bull Shit. I haven’t written a ticket in over a year. and if have my way I won’t right any for another year. 13 more months and I’m done.

          • Then you will run for sheriff?

      17. Simple…. Start calling and turn in every liberal you know to this clown. After the system is overwhilemed with BS it with cease or collapse…..

        • Do it from a “burner” phone or you’ll be the one sent for re-education.

      18. Perhaps Austin should instead vet the many idiots walking around in a chemically induced fog – a result of an overly medicated life and a steady diet of garbage processed foods.

        “Hello, police? I’d like to report my neighbor. He’s a dumbass. Makes terrible decisions, can’t drive, and gets in the way at the grocery store. Yes, he stands in the middle of the aisle, with his huge cart, oblivious. Oh, he’s also dependent on magical thinking when faced with reality.”

        Honestly gets tiring, to *see* what is happening. Seems better to hibernate, away from everyone.

        • Just report all the pigs addresses.

      19. Judge: Give NSA unlimited access to digital data


        ““Much of what passes for the name of privacy is really just trying to conceal the disreputable parts of your conduct,” Posner added”

        was he talking about government when he said that ???

        ““I think privacy is actually overvalued,”

        this article could be entitled “Dirt Bag Judge Betrays America”

      20. This cop would make a fine Stasi.

      21. So all the millions of vets who have money problems could lose the right to own guns? Like WWII, Korea, Vietnam etc. If you stop to think about it kicking in doors is very dumb. Doors can be booby trapped with very loud results. Once the people become alienated from the police, the police are in trouble. Police come in all types some will use the armored vehicles against the govt in a civil war event. It is absolute lunacy to create a civil war event again. stopping the police state mentality of sticking their noses into everything will do alot to defuse any problems The citizens have owned guns here since the country was founded and nothing has resulted from that except continued freedom

        • Rockmanr, if I were a vet, I would tell the VA to go f#$% themselves and bring it on if they think they’re bad enough. They don’t have a leg to stand on with their attitudes toward the vets. The vets in my family don’t go to the VA for anything. They know better.

      22. All I got is a rusty old single-shot .22, half a box of .22 shorts, 1 can of Spam, 1 can of beans, and a dozen or so bottles of water…the rest I lost in a boating accident.

        • I saw a gun once, but it was a long time ago.

        • That can of Spam puts you on the terrorist watch list.

          • How many nickels do ya have buried in the back yard?

        • Funny, same thing happened to me. By boating accident occurred in my bathtub, but it was still tragic and I lost everything.

          However, if you want some nutty gun owners, I understand Diane Feinstein carried, and she is nutty. Also, Mikey Moore’s body guards carry, as do a host of other insane Hollywierd Learjet leftists…. so maybe go check on them, OK?

      23. All the while they keep getting incrementally stronger as massive numbers of law abiding armed citizens methodically become mentally disarmed.

        When the time comes and they come for the guns, the desire to “live” unarmed, will far out weigh the desire to die free. If that was not the case, hundreds, maybe thousands of law abiding citizens would have made a stand, long ago. But alas, the Dorner types die every few months or so, all by themselves.

        (For those “Molon Labe” in the crowd, your time has come and gone)

        • Maybe in the city where they’re all dumbed down.

          It must be in the water.

      24. Off topic but I enjoy reading the comments and have noticed be informed hasn’t been on did he go off grid or something?

        • Fed up, BI did ‘go silent’ for unknown reasons. I don’t know his current status. We all miss him and his analysis of numerous subjects, especially on earthquakes.

          • Read Suspicious Observers…that’s all I’ll say….google it

        • think he’s in Chili, in the Andes next to a glacier, living the good life

      25. Every loony toons crazy dictatorship or regime that ended in democide in the last century started with a request from government officials for ordinary citizens to turn in the mavericks, intellectuals or just plain deviants from the norm. Note he’s not asking for reports of criminal behavior, just that behavior which seems unusual or out of place. This sends up huge red flags for me.

        It’s time to REALLY understand just what makes your neighbours tick, before you find out they’d sell you down the river for a bowl of soup. Sad as it is to say, time to reduce your social circle to just those you know are as deep in potential doo doo with those who would control us all as you are yourself. Reinforce your OPSEC.

        Do not try to recruit any more to the cause, as the time to do that without taking a significant personal risk has now passed. Chat freely only in trusted company and do not pass judgement openly on any aspect of religion or politics when in general company outside the confines of your own home.

        • Wise words Lonelonemen!

      26. Someone tell this asswipe to go fuck himself…..

        • Southside, here ya go. Acevedo, go f#$5 yourself!

      27. BTW: Anyone know/hear about the FSU shooter a few weeks back? No? Just to let you know,he was a disgruntled black AND a lawyer. Seems he was upset about his student debt. Excuse my posts today, I’m in a bad mood.

      28. Art is a Fascist, and the City Council is Fascist. This is a Fascist City and the “hipsters” are a bunch of Fascists too.

      29. How soon before we have cases of a wife (or husband) in a divorce ratting on their ex?

        Oh, right, it’s been happening for years.

        In fact, denouncing your neighbor (or political opponent) has become so common there’s a word for it. (SWATting)

        A kid who got disciplined for some good reason decides to SWAT his father or mother.

        Your dog poops on your neighbor’s lawn.

        You inadvertently cut someone off in traffic and he has your plate number.

        You complain about a loud party at 3AM.

        You turn in a poacher who’s been jacklighting deer on your property.

        • These are the same leftists who insisted that all mental patients be set free in the 1970s. Oh, the irony!

          • Yeah, OC, I think they mated with them.

            Just sayin’…

            • Ah, from what I saw in the ’70s, you are right. Ex-inmates were starved and ready for action.

      30. When I get out I see people,
        using debt/credit cards, these help track your purchases or ,
        They are members of SAMS club, the store bonus points program, any store card tracks all your purchases also, they know how much food you store or ammo purchased.
        When you buy supplies use only cash, and don’t leave your personal information.
        And never tell anyone out of your family know what you have , most people prepping should go underground with this , or you will be targeted.

        • My church has a Sam’s membership, so we use that card to get in and pay with cash. I have a Food Lion card in someone else’s name. Also I pretend not to have mine and use the clerk’s card. Sometimes I lend it to someone in front of me in line who doesn’t have one. That really mixes up the computers.

          I have fun with the cards. You can too.

          • I have a couple of store (cards) and all I did was say “I will fill this out and bring it in next time”. I have used them for years with no questions lol. Mr. Blank you have 2000 gas points ha ha, ok thanks I say. I have even used old phone numbers or found one in the phone book and it worked so I use that too. Thank you Mr. Smith, you saved 20 bux, ha ha ha.

      31. Folks I don’t know about you, but TPTB are running very scared of the gun owning PATRIOTS in this country. We are the last ones that are standing in their way in taking total control of the world. WE MUST BE DISARMED AT ALL COST! They will be making their move soon, because they have shown their hands and now the longer they wait the more of their opposition grows slowly but it is still growing. Make sure your preparations are in order and if you need more ammo or guns get them NOW. The lines have been drawn and very soon it’s going to be GUN FIGHT AT THE OK CORRAL. Stand your ground and show absolutely no MERCY. Be safe and BE READY.

        MTCFMF!!//RIP America.

        • Copperhead, I just bought myself another gun today and picking up extra mags and ammo on Sat, then sun. off to the range to try it out. gun show in my area Dec. 13-14 which I will also attend. With Dec. 24 looming on that UN treaty it could be the last gun show I’ll ever see.

      32. Remington’s recall of over 7 million model 700 rifles. Good luck on that. A few things come to mind; gun registration (name and address please), rifles now out of the people hands, some sort of back door confiscation, just think about it. It could be a test who knows.

        MTCFMF!!//RIP America.

        • Yeah, all because they don’t know how to adjust the damned trigger. Picked one up a couple years ago. Cleaned it all up, dry fire tested it. Seemed a little lite to suit me, but, I walked it out to the range, set it on the bags, dropped a shell in, closed the bolt *BOOOM!*

          Some retard thought he was a gunsmith. I’m not, I’m just not an idiot. I pulled the action, adjusted the trigger like it should have been. Been fine ever since. I have four other 700s in various calibers, all subject to the recall, none of them registered to me (Yeah, I live in one of those states). This is why they are recalling them. They’re refitting them with triggers that can’t be adjusted infinitively lite. Now, when I buy a 700, I just automatically pull the trigger mech, hose it down with WD40, then readjust it.

          Recall my rifle? No, better they pucker up.

      33. word from western Indiana…not sur about other states but in indiana no permit of any kind needed to carry a black powder revolver my dad passed away 6 month ago and hr had a 44 6shot black powder he carried in the car any time he went any where never had or needed a permit it had been loaded for i know 20 years and what he used to prevent the 2 chambers from firing that happens some times if you do not put a smear of grease over the top of the ball he used the wax from a toilet ring soft bees wax so i took it out in the back yard to unload it and clean it and it fired just as if i had just loaded it even the caps had been on for 20 yrs i was amazed and thought for sure at least half of the chambers would not fire but not a hickup

        • Was that all one sentence?

          • yep and in one breath too r u the literrary police man

      34. Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo is exhibiting Modern Day McCarthyism…..or better yet J Edgar Hooverism.

        Hey Acevedo……..What’s In Your Closet?

        • Wrong on both counts. McCarthy was right. So was Hoover. Avecedo is the sort of man that McCarthy and Hoover fought against.

          • Biographies of Hoover have suggested that he was almost as anti-Semitic as you are. Certainly his practice of hiring ex-Nazis suggests that he had no strong love for Jews or Zionists.

            Hard to pin down – the man was an enigma wrapped in a mystery, to paraphrase another great man.

        • Fukushima radiation is being monitored all over the Pacific. But many of the sensors don’t report because……(wait for it)……THERE ISN’T ANY.

      35. In other news, while much of the population is distracted by many things, this is being pushed through like a T.A.R.P.:

        America is on a “Hot War Footing”: House Legislation Paves the Way for War with Russia?

        “military action against Russia is now contemplated at an “operational level”.[…]

        The adoption of a major piece of legislation by the US House of Representatives on December 4th (H. Res. 758) would provide (pending a vote in the Senate) a de facto green light to the US president and commander in chief to initiate –without congressional approval– a process of military confrontation with Russia.

        Global security is at stake. This historic vote –which potentially could affect the lives of hundreds of millions of people Worldwide– has received virtually no media coverage. A total media blackout prevails.” …


      36. I don’t mean to be crude, but but think of the city Montevideo (“I saw/see a mountain” in Spanish). So with this Acevedo guy we have “Ace” (pronounced “ass”, as in “jackass”) and then the word “vedo”, which is close enough to “video”, as in “I saw/see.” So, it seems we have “I saw an ass” as the meaning of his name.

        In fact, as I watched a video of this guy, “Ace-video” seemed the perfect name.

      37. “If you know somebody that’s acting with a lot of hatred towards any particular group… ”


        • Boehner

          All 535 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      38. let’s put it into context: art acevedo’s wife should request all police department personnel to report to her any time the police chief looks at or flirts with another woman, or mentions when a woman is attractive- after all his thoughts could turn to adultery and she might want to vet that woman. in fact we might want to pass a law where the police chief must wear a webcam 24/7 so we can make sure he is not going anything suspicious.

        • Somebody can phone in that every mexican female in austin is a prostitute whore…because after all they ALL have the necessary parts and tools to become real whores and prostitutes right.

          “911 Hello whats the problem?”….”gee I just seen a Midget mexican whore prostitute on second street and fourth ave..”Sir do you have the midget whores name?” Why Yes! Yes i do have that info, her name is Cuntswaylo!

        • I’m going to keep that one. Brilliant.

      39. hey art- clean up your own house before you ask everyone to do your job for you: test your entire police department for illegal drug use- especially steroid use! that’s right- how many police brutality incidents and police shootings are caused by police officer drug abuse?

      40. We seem to be fast approching the movie “Minority report.” The pre-crime division of law enforcement. But for now it is going to be a slander’s paradise!

      41. Back in the early 1970s I left home in the panhandle of Texas for UT Austin. Dad remarked, “Son, why do you want to go down there to that hotbed of radicals and liberals?” Nothing has changed.

      42. Guys, it gets worse. Remember this guy, Police Chief Kessler? Here is the short story: Gilberton, Pennsylvania Police Chief Mark Kessler promises not to enforce unconstitutional laws that eviscerate second amendment rights. “I will take my uniform off and I will stand with freedom before I stand with tyrannical thugs.” Speaking about disarmament after Hurricane Katrina: “The oath that these thugs took, they violated their oath, they’re thugs, nothing more than thugs and they disgust me.”
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ezoK-o8wg5E#t=23s 1:47 min.

        I supported him, simply in that I support the US Constitution. Last I heard, that was still legal and a good thing. And of course I do not condone violence of any sort. TURNS OUT THIS GUY WAS A SHILL/HONEYPOT TRYING TO ATTRACT RADICALS. Story at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/12/shocking-revelation-former-police-chief-kessler-admits-working-feds-flush-2nd-amendment-supporters/#U8WSck6BWJa1LWKM.99 All well and fine to try to stop violence, but why not just use the laws in place and constitutionally allowed, instead of some bs sleazeball backdoor, Stasi like scam? I am all for stopping terrorists of any sort, but STAY WITHIN THE CONSTITUTION.

        IMHO, this guy is the lowest of the low.

      43. Hi folks. That link above from Freedom Outpost is, IMHO, very important. Not long. Do take a quick read of it if you would. It illustrates how Stasi-like things are getting.

        It’s one thing (and good thing) to stop violence. It is another thing altogether to subvert the Constitution, and just freaking LIE to people. Ferreting out bad guys should have been done within the confines of the law.

        Oh wait, I forgot. I the leftist world, all that exists is p-o-w-e-r; truth is non-existent. My mistake.

      44. “Vet” THIS.

      45. DHS already has this called see something say something right?
        and more reason to keep people at arms length.

      46. These twits are not long for this world… certainly not in Texas.
        Something I’d like to pass on from John Darash of National Liberty Alliance, which is the Citizens’ grand jury movement.

        Get the word out –

        Breaking News – December 8th 2014 – Fifty Common Law Grand Juries filed Presentments indicting New York City Code Enforcement Officer Pantaleo for the murder of Eric Garner in the United States District Court for the Southern District of NY: Read the Presentment HERE & watch the Video – http://nationallibertyalliance.org/breaking-news

        Join us Monday, 9PM EST to discuss the latest news – http://nationallibertyalliance.org/mondaycall

        Support NLA please give $5 a month or more – http://nationallibertyalliance.org/support-national-liberty-alliance

        Letter to Postmaster for rejecting 3cent mailing – http://nationallibertyalliance.org/mailing

      47. I think this guy is half right in the sense that we’ve failed to be the engaged society that’s required for our form of government to work.

        It’s too late now, the genie is out of the bottle, but we’ve developed into a ‘let them handle it’ society, abdicating our responsibilities, in many cases, when it comes to nearly every facet of governing. They get away with all of this because we have allowed it via our own complacence.

        We want to stand up and shake our fists and rage against it but that’s like buying a pistol after you’ve been robbed. What we really need to do is get involved at every level, from the school board and local town meetings on up. The opposition has been doing this for years, you have to admire their dedication to getting what they want, let’s not get pissed, let’s get even.

      48. “If you want them, you’ll have to go door to door, and you won’t even do that. You’ll just go to door.”

      49. This is what you get when you have unchecked migration from California. The destroy a beautiful state and then move on. Liberal roaches.

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