Pennsylvania to Become First State to Use “Precrime” Statistics in Criminal Sentencing

by | Aug 9, 2015 | Headline News | 69 comments

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    This article was originally published by Michael Krieger at Liberty Blitzkrieg.


    Criminal sentencing has long been based on the present crime and, sometimes, the defendant’s past criminal record. In Pennsylvania, judges could soon consider a new dimension: the future.

    Pennsylvania is on the verge of becoming one of the first states in the country to base criminal sentences not only on what crimes people have been convicted of, but also on whether they are deemed likely to commit additional crimes. As early as next year, judges there could receive statistically derived tools known as risk assessments to help them decide how much prison time — if any — to assign.

    – From the Five Thirty Eight article: Should Prison Sentences Be Based On Crimes That Haven’t Been Committed Yet?

    As technology generally continues to advance, one thing you can be sure of is the criminal justice system’s use of innovative new “tools” will grow exponentially. This can be a good thing, but it can also be a very dangerous thing. Pennsylvania’s new law that permits the use of data showing whether people are “deemed likely to commit additional crimes” in criminal sentencing, is a perfect example of how an over reliance on technology can be a threat to liberty and due process.

    Rather than explaining my position on the matter right here, I think it best to make my points within excerpts from the article itself.  From Five Thirty Eight:

    Criminal sentencing has long been based on the present crime and, sometimes, the defendant’s past criminal record. In Pennsylvania, judges could soon consider a new dimension: the future.

    Pennsylvania is on the verge of becoming one of the first states in the country to base criminal sentences not only on what crimes people have been convicted of, but also on whether they are deemed likely to commit additional crimes. As early as next year, judges there could receive statistically derived tools known as risk assessments to help them decide how much prison time — if any — to assign.

    Risk assessments have existed in various forms for a century, but over the past two decades, they have spread through the American justice system, driven by advances in social science. The tools try to predict recidivism — repeat offending or breaking the rules of probation or parole — using statistical probabilities based on factors such as age, employment history and prior criminal record. They are now used at some stage of the criminal justice process in nearly every state. Many court systems use the tools to guide decisions about which prisoners to release on parole, for example, and risk assessments are becoming increasingly popular as a way to help set bail for inmates awaiting trial.

    But Pennsylvania is about to take a step most states have until now resisted for adult defendants: using risk assessment in sentencing itself. A state commission is putting the finishing touches on a plan that, if implemented as expected, could allow some offenders considered low risk to get shorter prison sentences than they would otherwise or avoid incarceration entirely. Those deemed high risk could spend more time behind bars.

    There are more than 60 risk assessment tools in use across the U.S., and they vary widely. But in their simplest form, they are questionnaires — typically filled out by a jail staff member, probation officer or psychologist — that assign points to offenders based on anything from demographic factors to family background to criminal history. The resulting scores are based on statistical probabilities derived from previous offenders’ behavior. A low score designates an offender as “low risk” and could result in lower bail, less prison time or less restrictive probation or parole terms; a high score can lead to tougher sentences or tighter monitoring.

    The risk assessment trend is controversial. Critics have raised numerous questions: Is it fair to make decisions in an individual case based on what similar offenders have done in the past? Is it acceptable to use characteristics that might be associated with race or socioeconomic status, such as the criminal record of a person’s parents? And even if states can resolve such philosophical questions, there are also practical ones: What to do about unreliable data? Which of the many available tools — some of them licensed by for-profit companies — should policymakers choose?

    Even some supporters of risk assessment in bail and parole worry that using the tools for sentencing carries echoes of “Minority Report”: locking people up for crimes they might commit in the future. In a speech to the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers last August, then-Attorney General Eric Holder said risk assessment tools can be useful in directing offenders toward rehabilitative programs, allowing them to shorten their prison sentences. But he criticized the use of such tools at the sentencing phase. “By basing sentencing decisions on static factors and immutable characteristics — like the defendant’s education level, socioeconomic background, or neighborhood — they may exacerbate unwarranted and unjust disparities that are already far too common in our criminal justice system and in our society,” he said.

    Wow, I actually agree with Eric Holder for once. For him to take such a decent position, it must mean bank profits aren’t threatened.

    Fosque’s objection underscores one of the central questions in the risk assessment debate: Is it fair to look at the behavior of a group when deciding the fate of an individual? Statistics, after all, can’t say whether Fosque will commit another crime, and he believes he’s doing everything possible to avoid further run-ins with the law.

    There is little question that well-designed risk assessment tools “work,” in that they predict behavior better than unaided expert opinion. Over the past several decades, dozens of social scientific studies have been published comparing professional predictions of risk to predictions made by statistics. When implemented correctly, whether in the fields of medicine, finance or criminal justice, statistical actuarial tools are accurate at predicting human behavior — about 10 percent more accurate than experts assessing without the assistance of such a tool, according to a 2000 paper by a team of psychologists at the University of Minnesota.

    But to critics, just because a trait predicts crime doesn’t mean it’s fair to use it in sentencing decisions. Pennsylvania’s proposed tool will take into account factors like sex and age that are beyond an individual’s control. It will also include a question on where offenders live and, in some cases, penalize residents of urban areas, who are far more likely to be black.

    Perhaps most controversially, the Sentencing Commission’s draft assessment tool will factor in an individual’s history of arrests, not just convictions. Even using convictions is potentially problematic; blacks are more likely than whites to be convicted of marijuana possession, for example, even though they use the drug at rates equivalent to whites. But arrests are even more racially skewed than convictions, and public defender groups in Pennsylvania think their use to determine sentencing may be unconstitutional.

    Using risk assessment in criminal sentencing is a thornier issue. “It’s a higher-stakes decision point in terms of someone’s liberty,” Kurtz said. “It definitely makes me a little bit more uncomfortable.”

    This is the main point. We are discussing whether or not to use statistics on “potential future crimes” in determining how much time a person will remain involuntarily locked in a cage. Obviously there will be errors, and any error that leads to someone spending more time in prison based on a flawed prediction is ethically indefensible. If you want to use such statistics to only reduce punishment I could be in favor of it, but to use it to justify harsher sentencing seems like a horrible idea.

    In Pennsylvania, at least, such policy discussions have drawn little public attention despite the best efforts of the Sentencing Commission, which in addition to publishing its detailed reports has held public hearings across the state. Those hearings drew so few people that Bergstrom, the commission’s executive director, extended the public comment period through the end of the year.


    Based on the work the commission has done so far, Bergstrom says he’s leaning toward using the tool to identify outliers — low-risk individuals to defer from prison altogether and high-risk individuals to flag for extra time or treatment. That would be a fairly limited approach, but it wouldn’t avoid the central question of whether offenders should spend more time behind bars simply because of how statistical tools say they will behave in the future.

    Reading the above made me think of an article I have been meaning to write about for several weeks. It was written by Zoltan Istvan, a so-called “futurist” and presidential candidate for the Transhumanist Party, and published at Motherboard. Here are a few excerpts:

    The death penalty is one of America’s most contentious issues. Critics complain that capital punishment is inhumane, pointing out how some executions have failed to quickly kill criminals (and instead tortured them). Supporters of the death penalty fire back saying capital punishment deters violent crime in society and serves justice to wronged victims. Complicating the matter is that political, ethnic, and religious lines don’t easily distinguish death penalty advocates from its critics. In fact, only 31 states even allow capital punishment, so America is largely divided on the issue.

    Regardless of the debate—which shows no signs of easing as we head into the 2016 elections—I think technology will change the entire conversation in the next 10 to 20 years, rendering many of the most potent issues obsolete.

    For example, it’s likely we will have cranial implants in two decades time that will be able to send signals to our brains that manipulate our behaviors. Those implants will be able to control out-of-control tempers and violent actions—and maybe even unsavory thoughts.This type of tech raises the obvious question: Instead of killing someone who has committed a terrible crime, should we instead alter their brain and the way it functions to make them a better person?

    Where to begin. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea, or a “solution,” is either incredibly naive or a certified statist control-freak. In the case of Zoltan, I think he’s probably both.

    First of all, since the state will be administering these lobotomies, they will have to come up with definitions for “unsavory thoughts.” They also will have a monopoly on deciding what characterizes a “better person.” In the name of fighting “unsavory thoughts” and making people “better,” the government can go in and change your entire brain. This is a solution? No, this is a dystopian nightmare only a complete statist could support.

    Moving along…

    Recently, the commercially available Thync device made headlines for being able to alter our moods. Additionally, nearly a half million people already have implants in their heads, most to overcome deafness, but some to help with Alzheimer’s or epilepsy. So the technology to change behavior and alter the brain isn’t science fiction. The science, in some ways, is already here—and certainly poised to grow, especially with Obama’s $3 billion dollar BRAIN initiative, of which $70 million went to DARPA, partially for cranial implant research.

    Some people may complain that implants are too invasive and extreme. But similar outcomes—especially in altering criminal’s mindsto better fit society’s goals—may be accomplished by genetic engineering, nanotechnology, or even super drugs. In fact, many criminals are already given powerful drugs, which make them quite different that they might be without them. After all, some people—including myself—believe much violent crime is a version of mental disease.

    To better fit society’s goals? Who do you think will be determining “society’s goals” Zoltan? The people? I think not. It will be decided by a handful of oligarchs who will be able to choose who gets their brains carved up. If anyone has mental disease it might be you.

    With so much scientific possibility on the near-term horizon of changing someone’s criminal behavior and attitudes, the real debate society may end up having soon is not whether to execute people, but whether society should advocate for cerebral reconditioning of criminals—in other words, a lobotomy.

    One other method that could be considered for death row criminals is cryonics. The movie Minority Report, which features precogs who can see crime activity in the future, show other ways violent criminals are dealt with: namely a form of suspended animation where criminals dream out their lives. So the concept isn’t unheard of. With this in mind, maybe violent criminals even today should legally be given the option for cryonics, to be returned to a living state in the future where the reconditioning of the brain and new preventative technology—such as ubiquitous surveillance—means they could no longer commit violent acts.

    He seems to think ubiquitous surveillance is a great thing. As I said before, the only one here with a truly dangerous mental disease seems to be Zoltan. That disease is statism.

    Rememebr this article? Florida Man Sentenced to 2.5 Years in Jail for Having Sex on the Beach.

    Seems like he’d be a great candidate for a Zoltan administered lobotomy to remedy his “unsavory thoughts.”

    Or what about this one? Bilderberg 2015 – Where Criminals Mingle with Politicians.

    I think it’s safe to assume that the Bilderbergers would escape the brain knife.

    What complete stupidity.

    In Liberty,
    Michael Krieger

    You can follow Michael Krieger’s regular postings at Liberty Bliztkrieg or via his Twitter page.


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      1. The movie “Minority Report’ was total BS. The whole concept of ‘precrime’ is bogus and has no legitimate basis to it. So someone thinks they can predict who will commit a crime, what type of crime, against whom, when, and where? It’s one of the biggest fantasy worlds I’ve ever heard of in my whole life.

        • They will keep on until there is a forceful pushback. I hope this shit they are doing is worth their lives to them.

          • Obomber promises, “If you like your Minority Report, you can keep you Minority Report.”

            • JR, they can stuff the minority report.

              • Oh, you know I totally agree. I just had to make that statement, because when it crossed my mind, I thought it just had so many multiple meanings that contradict each other. These crazy pricks being enabled and lied to at the same time by the Criminal in Chief himself. It is almost as funny as that professional wrestling match the other night, they called a debate.

                Their driving this country toward uncivil civil war one lunatic act at a time. How long before we see a genuine secession of several States or more?

                • JR. I agree. That debate was nothing but a joke. Donald Trump is NOT a Ron Paul. Trump is a close friend of the Clintons. It reminds me of the 1992 elections when H. Ross Perot was running as an independent and I could tell right off he was bogus. He took votes away from Bush Sr. and made sure Clinton won the WH. Trump will get “trumped” and it’s all by design.

          • Zero, spot on. It will cost them their lives if they come to me with any of that BS.

            • No doubt, It is not difficult to find out where someone lives, especially local scumbags that are on a power trip. Bet they don’t have armor on their walls and I bet it aint burn proof either. Too bad if their is collateral damage when they leave the earth. They better think about that.

          • The Well Greased Politicians will make up any numbers charts or laws to make sure the Corporated Prison USA maintains full occupancy. Did you know many private prisons have contracts with the State and Feds to maintain a certain high occupancy? Thats a crime in itself. Bribery, kick backs, campaign contributions to keep Americans locked up. $75K a year per head these prisons get paid to keep humans in cages. Hotel California.. You can never leave.

          • Looks like Americans are going to have to round up and lock these people that are allowing with pre crime BS to happen.

        • Pre crime is Pre racist….. So says the future Al Sharpton

        • Braveheart: Agreed; this is complete nonsense on so many levels. One; as you pointed out is that the science behind this is shakier than Jell-O. Two; Article One of the Constitution prohibits “ex post facto” laws. In other words, you can’t be guilty of something you did last year when it only became illegal this year. What they’re talking about here is way beyond that; it could be called “pre facto/a priori” crime. A law like this will not be upheld. But things are getting insane none-the-less.

      2. But officer, I was only going 5 miles an hour over the speed limit.

        Sure, but your ‘crime profile’ from the FBI says that you are a church going Christian, are opposed to abortion, own guns and a hunting dog, served in the Marines with honors, drive a late model F-150, live within 10 miles of a farm supply store, prefer cash to credit cards, and bought two packs of toilet paper last week. That makes you a domestic terrorist.

        • YES SIR , You are right NORSE MAN !
          That is exactly the way it will go.
          White man middle age , bought hunting /fishing license , book him Danno , hes a terrorist.

          • Norseman and hammerhead, I understand your points, but there is no legitimate basis to anything the feds do. norseman, what you mentioned is how DHS has classified white people. How do they classify ‘minority groups’? I’ll bet it’s the opposite.

            • You know it’s the opposite! This is a really scary article. I have no criminal record but am sure that won’t matter. I am a white female, married to a man who is a veteran, pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment. Never know what I might do in my older years if left alone.

        • You forgot that he’s a Constitionalist!

        • Now you’ve got where this is going!

        • Norseman,you are obviously a much larger risk then domestic terrorist,you are a outright menace to society!Tis people like you that Camp Fema is being ramped up!

          Hmmm….,wonder if my million army of Goldfish zombie crackers is also considered a terrorist threat,makes as much sense!

          • Warchild, be careful what you say about my supply of goldfish. You’re the one who turned me on to them and they are now an essential part of my preps. Goldfish have feelings too [until I eat them].

            • My army of reanimated(what,you thought they were baked crackers?!)Goldfish is for the taking on and conquering of chat room idiots,they started this war by attacking Genius and locking his chat room,I said he created a monster and was not kidding!I will when work slows and time permits soon have Warchilds Fireside Bar chat room!On a side note spellcheck wants to change Warchild to Fairchild,hmmmm….,don’t remember a Jethro Tull “Fairchild “album!

              • Damn! I thought you said to buy gold….not goldfish! I’m ruined!

              • Warchild, I support anything that challenges trolls, but don’t you think naming them after goldfish is a bit much?

              • Wish we still had the “Like” buttons!

        • Have you been watching me? How did you know all that stuff??

      3. Where is the Gulag?

      4. The world is so fucked up I wouldn’t out it past tptb to try something like this. I think we have a better chance of someone setting off a nuke.

      5. Braveheart, now that they have identified who(veterans,fundamentalist christians ,pro lifers, 2nd amendment advocates etc., they can just make up shit to put them into prison.

      6. Overthecliff, we already have that. You’d be surprised how many police reports are falsified and that is proven in court cases all over the US all the time.

      7. Here is one section of Microsoft Privacy Statement:

        Input Personalization

        Microsoft collects and uses data about your speech, inking (handwriting), and typing on Windows devices to help improve and personalize our ability to correctly recognize your input.

        For example, to provide personalized speech recognition, we collect your voice input, as well your name and nickname, your recent calendar events and the names of the people in your appointments, and information about your contacts including names and nicknames. This additional data enables us to better recognize people and events when you dictate messages or documents.

        Additionally, your typed and handwritten words are collected to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write. Typing data includes a sample of characters and words you type, which we scrub to remove IDs, IP addresses, and other potential identifiers. It also includes associated performance data, such as changes you manually make to text as well as words you’ve added to the dictionary.

        You can turn off Input Personalization at any time. This will stop the data collection for this feature and will delete associated data stored on your device, such as your local user dictionary and your input history. As Cortana uses this data to help understand your input, turning off Input Personalization will also disable Cortana on your device. At, you can also clear data sent to Microsoft, such as your contacts and calendar data, user dictionary, as well as search and browsing history if your device also had Cortana enabled.

        • WOW, I must have one screwed up dictionary. I can’t type ten words without misspelling eight of them or just mistyping them.

          • You fuckin’ terrorist.

        • But Wait,you could just go with Linux,it also is free!Free thanks to thousands of programmers volunteering their time,would help but not so great with programming,i.e. I would suck at it!


      8. God bless Pennsylvania, and best wished on their new endeavor. What the heck, if we’re going COMMUNIST then we might as well start with the KEYSTONE STATE. It will set a good example for the rest of the country. GETTYSBURG 2, here we come. PS: General Pickett, if you are still out there somewhere, please stay the hell of it this time. Thank you sir.




        prisoners will be deliberately railroaded to longer prison sentences for profit.

        *this will corrupt the federal prison system, be abused for huge profit by every private prison for profit, prison industry bought shill politicians and court judges with their hands out!

        • So what’s new?… Pay your taxes free man!

          • taxes?

            you still pay taxes?

            you must be one of them Amerikan hopium goyim gentile tax debt slave suckers i hear about!

            i bet you still vote too, thinking it matters.

            bwaaa ha ha ha!

            “no taxation without representation!”

            “if voting really mattered the Zog wouldn’t let you do it to begin with!”

            • Zog Amerikan Gestapo Police State 2.0

              West Virginia Gestapo State Piggies try to Murder a chained up defenseless Dog.


              • What’s wrong with the cops? Why didn’t they just shoot them all, I mean really! Are these the kind of kids we want to grow up, imagine that, and run the country. Imbeciles, one and all. Cops should not carry pistols. They should have automatic, belt fed weapons, maybe that way people such as these pieces of white trash would take them seriously and shut the hell up and become productive citizens. It is so discouraging to know that they are still alive, breathing air that lawful, taxpaying citizens could put to much better use.

      10. Wouldn’t it be easier if Microsoft said –

        “You give up all rights to your privacy”.

        Same thing, but might save Microsoft some lawyer fees.

      11. Corporations are the problem they don’t care about the individual. From the first day of school a child is taught to wait in lines wait their turn basically they are trained to be a cog in a big wheel. You are not an individual with his own agenda you are part of a corporate governmental program to be bled dry and thrown away like a shitty diaper. If you question it your a trouble maker. The other cogs will turn on you and the corp will punish you as a means to get you back into line. Smart folks play the game for now with plans of their own that don’t include the gov banks or corporations. Stick with your agenda it will pay off on the day of reckoning.

      12. WOW…

        When are they coming out with that cranial chip implant?
        I’m a “blackhat” hacker and I can’t wait to get my hands on that technology.

        I won’t have to spend all this time and money ruining my liver drinking or my veins booting crank and black tar. Just hit my chip up with the right code and the drool will follow.

        Fuck the .gov pigs and their blood tests…ha ha ha.

        Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of my Happiness you .gov badge lickin’ frauds.

        • JRS,I will take one of your chips,just program it to stop as soon as work time rolls around!

          • The only chips I accept are Ruffles, Corn Chips, tortilla chips, etc. Oh, and don’t forget the salsa, cheese dip, etc.

            • OH Brave,if I could have a beer/#7 chip and full control with a pre-programmed timer for work and hack proof would grab it up!No long term damage mentally(done enuff there) or body wise and yet still get drunk,sign me up.I would like it though to have easy re-movability,am sure JRS will work on it!You can have a Goldfish never ending chip!


      13. Notice how the sovereign individual (that’s what you want to be) is under constant attack from organizations controlled by systems. An organization minded people will always have that and that organization mind will sooner or later enslave and destroy all individuals.
        To be free requires sovereign mindedness. A nation of sovereign individuals must abhor organization and shun organization minded people and not allow them to organize anything.
        The only time to organize is what it takes to protect against organizations. And organize to the levels required to throw of the chains of organizations. Good luck on that one.
        Given time any organization will exist mainly to perpetuate the organization and benefit those at the top. This is fundamental and must be understood. It is the nature of organization. And you need look no further than our government to see this at work. That is the nature of organization.
        A nation of sovereign individuals must always keep their military in check. It is a necessary evil and never forget that.

      14. Law and freedom are mutually exclusive. Always understand that organization and freedom are mutually exclusive.
        The organization mind is devolution toward the earliest form of organization the social insects. An organization is necessary to enslave individuals.
        Evolution is toward the sovereign individual. Imagine there were no organizations. Humanity would soar.

        • In a nation of sovereign individuals that power is given to the individual. The individual is judge jury and executioner. Punishment is sure and swift. And there will always be individuals willing to deal with any wrong doing dangerous individual. Integrity, consideration, safety and peace grow out of that.
          You need some imagination to get the feel of a nation of sovereign individuals. They ain’t around anymore or not easy to find. It is a foreign concept. It is a buried concept and dangerous to The puppet master.

      15. I’m not a very smart guy, but I always got A’s from every one of my Psychology professors. I hand in my final exams, I’d tell them this is all bullshit, and they grade my essay exams “A”.
        Memorize and tell them what they want to hear. Nobody will bother you then. It is wrong to bear false witness, but nothing says you have to tell the truth to idiots, tell them what they want to hear. That is why we have so many Democrats. This Pennsylvania concept will be very useful to people smarter than me.

        • Tell them them what they want might be good strategy to stay out of immediate trouble. If that strategy is necessary it means we are in a really deep stage of enslavement. Free people certainly not required to do that. So that’s not all you have to do if freedom is your goal.

      16. What will they think of next?

      17. I have read they have removed and transplanted one monkey’s head onto another monkey’s body with success.

        Baby fetal brains into rats brains.

        All that is left is a politicians head transplanted onto a jackass’s body and then it will be BIG TIME.

        • Now, let’s be fair…

          Plant one on a jackass AND one on an elephant.

          • JRS

            Surgeon’s will need to be sure they attach the head to the right end on the elephant.

      18. There is an excellent article on this day titled: The Co-option Pillar of American “Democracy” Part 1, Why subvert the opposition? This is a long read broken into segments that deals with the murderous banker syndicate that controls America and the methods used to maintain their iron fist rule.

      19. The thing is the people they are using the pre crime stats for are already criminals and have committed crimes. Trying to assess the likelyhood they will commit another crime is a good idea. But if they try this on law abiding citizens then it’s bullshit. Around here it’s hard to put someone in jail. Criminals get off all the time. This is why guns can’t be banned. Criminals will get them no matter what. A guy I work with saw a criminal running from the cops ditch a pistol in the bushes while he was running away. The cops caught him and the guy I work with told the police that he saw a gun tossed into the bushes. Who knows what will come of it in court. But the dude was a gangbanger for sure. I hate the city.

      20. Some years ago, in the Washington D.C. Metro area, we had a pair of rectums running around and shooting people. AKA The Beltway Sniper.
        The efficiency of the FBI’s profilers was such that they had him tagged as an Angry, middle aged WHITE guy, former Viet Nam Era veteran.
        There were those, at the time, in the Black Community-swearing up and down that it was racially motivated-until….
        They got caught.
        Two BLACK men did all the shooting.

        Blew away the FBI’s “profilers” big time. Shut the race baiters up too.
        Which goes to say-this type of crap law in Pennsylvania is going to go sideways. And they might wind up locking up 90% of Philadelphia before too long.
        Which, IMO, wouldn’t be such a bad idea…
        Be well.

      21. So…seems I’m not too good at feather sexing new chicks. I worked it out to two cockbirds, but seems as if three are cock-a-doing so far (they’re young yet). I may have one more.

        I worked out a trade for one of them, plus two dozen eggs for two bushels of Romas. I guess the other one or two will get eaten.

        There is no greater predator than the naked ape. I just checked my nesting boxes for eggs and there was a hen dropping an egg in one, when I lifted the lid, and a four foot black snake in the next box. One hand distracts and the other grabs it behind the “ears”. I don’t kill black snakes, but they take a long walk. I could do the same with a rattler. Just ask me.

        I could do the same with .gov pigs if they encroach in my territory like a snake but I would use a ditch bank blade behind their ears instead of my hand.

        Sure, naked apes are the world’s greatest predators, but .gov naked apes don’t use their hands to preserve life, they use them to oppress and kill and preserve their own lifestyles.

      22. JRS,started your post reading with great interest,realised excepting the “snake part” had nothing to do with women,finished reading a bit disappointed!

        • My stories about women are mostly lost in the fog of my youth…I think they were exceptional experiences, however, I can’t remember.

          Ya got any?

          • JRS,I am easy,dozens of women can’t be wrong!I will say perhaps they made the wrong choice?Nah!Yes,have many a tail(spelled purposefully that way thank you)to tell!We get real slow on forum and not on the insane work schedule will share some stories of mirth/happiness/what have you.I can also say went out with some women for years and am friends still with em thru thick and thin,the one I almost married(she whos name will not be mentioned!),well,not soo much!

      23. It’s all “code” for the girls to meet me at the bar.

        Show up before midnight and I’ll hook you up…

      24. Black Lives Matter?

        Bernie Sanders does not?


        fact: afro-american michael brown is a known strong arm robber and thief! (he was killed by a piggy because he attacked the piggy, it is all on tape!)

      25. George Orwell’s 1984 can not even come close to what our present society is experiencing. These bastards are really provoking us to start shooting.

      26. Lmao, thats perfect
        Now they can give the pre crime stats to all the ” good cops” out there who will have even more reason to jack with people who havn’t actually done anything wrong, or broken any laws.

        Lol sorry but i just couldnt resist…..


      27. thinking themselves wise, they have become utter fools.

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