Obama Spews More Bullshit: “It’s Possible This Was Workplace-Related”

by | Dec 3, 2015 | Headline News | 274 comments

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    In remarks delivered to journalists in the Oval Office today President Obama said that the San Bernardino terrorists had mixed motives for killing 14 people and injuring 17 others. He warned Americans not to draw any conclusions:

    “At this stage, we do not yet know why this terrible event occurred.”

    “We do know that the two individuals who were killed were equipped with weapons and appeared to have access to additional weaponry in their homes. But we don’t know why they did it.”

    “It is possible that this was terrorist-related, but we don’t know. It’s also possible this was workplace-related.”

    “We don’t know why they did it. We don’t know at this point the extent of their plans.”

    Are you f*cking serious, Mr. President?

    As we noted earlier, The Intent Here Was Jihad And It Was Carefully Premeditated And Planned. President Obama, his national security team and the FBI know this.

    But admitting it would damage the narrative and the Obama end game. As predicted, Obama will do his damnedest to disarm as many people as he can:

    “We’re going to have to, I think, search ourselves as a society to make sure that we can take basic steps that would make it make it harder, not impossible, but harder to individuals to get access to weapons.”

    “We all have a part to play. And I do think that as the investigation moves forward it’s going to be important for all of us, including our legislatures, to see what we can do to ensure that when individuals decide that they want to do somebody harm, we’ll make it a little harder for them to do it.”

    Here’s an idea: Take the same measures as what the State of Texas has taken to make it a little harder for them to do it. Starting January 1st residents of the state will be legally authorized to carry a firearm in open view.

    Problem solved.

    How many more have to die before idiot anti-gunners realize this isn’t going away and that these people have declared war on American men, women and children?


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      1. Just like at Ft Hood, the workplace was chosen for the terrorist event to take place.

        • But..but…islam is the Religion Of Peace, the only commit workplace violence!

          • Islam is about peace. The dead rarely speak.

            • The do vote democrat, however.

              • Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers
                Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority

                “When the Muslim population remains at or under 2%, their presence tends to fly low under the radar. In the 2% – 5% range, Muslims begin to seek converts, targeting those they see as disaffected, such as criminals. When the population reaches 5% they exert influence disproportionate to their numbers, becoming more aggressive and pushing for Sharia law. When the population hits the 10% mark Muslims become increasingly lawless and violent. Once the population reaches 20%, there is an increase in rioting, murder, jihad militias, and destruction of non-Muslim places of worship. At 40%, there are “widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare.” Once beyond 50%, infidels and apostates are persecuted, genocide occurs, and Sharia law is implemented. After 80%, intimidation is a daily part of life along with violent jihad and some state-run genocide as the nation purges all infidels… ” Peter Hammond, “Slavery, Terrorism, and Islam”.

                • I have both a Bible and Koran. I looked up the Koran verse you quoted and it doesn’t say that at all. If this is in the Koran, please double check the chapter and verse number. I’d like to see this myself. I had a friend tell me that verse 9:11 referred to the twin towers, it did not. I served my country (U.S. Navy) for over 20 years as a pilot and at Guantanamo Bay. I fully support and defend the Constitution of the United States but I will not spread false information. There is plenty of “Factual information” to show Obama is hell bent on destroying this country without making up stuff. Please update or correct your post.

              • Anongw65

                I laughed at the, “They Do Vote Democrat”.

                NJ was, maybe still is ripe with voter fraud that was overwhelming filled with Democrat Votes. Lots of dead people voted in Camden County. I’ll bet many voted more dead then when they were alive.

                Remember, “Vote early and vote often”.

                • Any excuse is a good excuse as long as Obola doesn’t have to say: “Radical Islam”, or “Islamic Terrorism”. 🙁

                  • “This may be workplace related”… well no shit it “may” be related. And then again, I “may” be rowing to Pluto in a canoe as I type this, but it’s not very likely!

          • The TV talking heads are all babbling about the
            “shooting rampage”. No mention of the terrorist attack or jihad, even from the “conservative”, “fair & balanced” gang.

            • “The truth, revealed in off-the-record police statements, presents a much different story.

              The shooting was IDENTIFIED as ISLAMIC TERRORISM within the FIRST HOUR, and the FBI was involved almost from the beginning.”



              Radical, murderous Islamists have clearly stated their goals. Yet, the media and the Obama administration willfully ignored this yesterday and continue to ignore the existential threat to America and the world.”

              Glenn had a direct message for the president:
              “… screw global warming. What the hell is wrong with you?

              If you actually believe that global warming is the biggest problem we face with terror all around the world, an 18 trillion-dollar debt, nine of which is yours,

              no real allies left that trust us, riots in our streets, riots in our university campuses, race relations worse than I’ve seen since the 1960s, and a distrust of our fellow Americans, unlike anything I’ve ever seen…”

              “Because It IS about Islam. So was Boston. So was Benghazi. So was Fort Hood. So was a half dozen others that you failed to address. And, quite frankly, sir, so was Ahmed, the clock kid. It was a TIMER, not a clock.”

              GlennBeck dot com

              • KY mom,
                bad things have happened in this country since Obutthead has been in office BUT i fear that it has been MILD compared to what is coming and even for those of us who are awake it will be difficult times and many HARD choices will have to be made!

                • apache54,

                  I agree. Challenging and difficult times lie ahead.

                  We must be strong in body and soul to face them.

                  • He did promise to deliver a fundamental change to the country…

                • hes gotta get it all fucked up, so when the Hildabeast steps in she can be the hero and take all our guns away… for the children you know

                  • Washington Post:

                    Gun Violence Declining, Except in Gun-Free Zones

                  • Anyone who wants to take something from me had better bring body bags for themselves.

              • ISLAMIST is nothing more than a terminology favored by those deceivers of the MSM etc wishing to distance all violent events done in the name of Islam from their beloved, peace loving Muslims!

                Don’t be deceived.

                Radical Muslims want to kill you.

                Moderate Muslims want radical Muslims to kill you.


          • Bullshit bammy is the head scum muslim. Of course he denies the problem. Too bad the sheeple believe him.

        • Mac Slavo: “Are you f*cking serious, Mr. President?”

          Yes Mac, he is. And there’s lots of Libs who strongly support Obama in this matter too.

          What can you do? Disown family and friends who are Obama-voting Libs? We’re surrounded by a sea of Libs.

          • its my humble opinion with some legal basis that any one who provided obama material support or comfort in the 2012 ( not 2008) election cycle could be guilty of treason.


            • Actually those who voted for him in 2008 are just as responsible. If they would have just looked into what he had done in the past and what he said they would have known his true agenda to “Transform America”.

              • Many of us knew what he was all about, just listening to him!

              • Texasprepper, remember that 45% of all white voters were shamed and coerced into voting for Obama back in 2008 by all the black crap organizations so they could avoid being called racist. They were still called racist anyway. even when they re-elected him in 2012, they were still called racist. there’s no making blacks happy so why bother with it?

                • Not buying it. Everyone’s vote is private, not common knowledge. What you’re really saying is that there were many white voters that lacked the courage of their convictions and caved in to the demands of others. I didn’t vote for BHO and I would laugh at anyone calling me racist, or ignore them. Give me Alan Keyes on the ballot and I’ll vote for him. Ben Carson too!

                  • Back up and punt, on the Ben Carson support.

                    He is a Big Pharma Mouth-piece. Want more mandatory vaccinations with built in DNA modifiers? He is a NWO insider.
                    Anyone that crows about meeting with Henry Kissinger, a framer of the NWO agenda, has an agenda of his own.

                    Don’t let the soft speaking negro fool you, he is not America’s saviour. And; contrary to Jamie Foxx’s claims, obomma isn’t either.

                    • I agree about Ben Carson. At first I thought he might be a little different, but some stuff fell out of his mouth that let me know he is with them. Also, dont be fooled by Donald Trump either because he tells truth in an arrogant way and has some racial issues too but when they get in office they do a complete switch on what they said before.

                    • HELLO?
                      DONALD TRUMP ANYONE?

                  • Ben Carson did not step up to the plate right after these and other mass shootings for a long time. Being a candidate, you must act like you were president to gain trust of the voters. I was aiming towards Ben until he disappeared after these many shootings, and 4-5 days later made comments. He is asleep at the wheel, only to wake up days later. He knows nothing of defense of this country which is most important to our survival.

                    • The neocon prez candadits were too Busy campaining in Israel to garner more Juden Fetzen cash$$$…

                      And of course to ass kiss via doing the usual head bang against that wailers wall.

                      From best online sources…so far there is just One Lone single us rep now that refuses to sign the Loyalty Pledge of AIPAC…..Cannot now recall that reps name??

                      Formerly the Only other one that also refused to sign aipacs loyalty pledge was Cynthia McKinny…Thats why she lost next election too!

                      to get elected and Remain elected only ONE Major rule exists…They Must agree to loyalty which really means asking prior to every vote or action done is it “Good for Israel? Is it Good for Jewry?”

                      Just always agree 100% and bingo! you can remain elected forever or untill you can swindle over One Billion juden fetzen dollars worth of scam swindles.

                      PS: Jeb’s top cash getter position for cash from Sheldon Addelson, vegas casino multi billionaire zionsit, has been trasnfered to sen marco Jubio, zio ass kisser extremist….Jubio is Now addelsons new favorite Shabozz Goy! Perhaps Jubio is himself a Marano fake catholic convert eh? Tons and Tons of hispanics in every hispanic nation has various degrees of zio tribal DNA mixed in.

              • Im gonna retort here.
                actually the definition of treason is:
                “The provision of material and(or) comfort to the enemy.”

                voting for someone is not treason just maybe an argument against universal suffrage…
                By treason I mean those whom:
                1. Gave significant funds to his campaign.
                2. volunteered for his campaign.
                3. other items along above lines.

                That said its still a huge mass of morons to parade around in shackles. and extract reparations for.


                • It is not treason to support a candidate before he commits treason. In which case Bush committed treason with the Patriot Act on top of NSA spying on Americans on top of flooding the country with Muslims. Obama commits treason by defending “good” Muslims and continuing Bush policies. Now jail 50 percent of Americans for treason because they voted for these two stooges of the 1 percent. The other half refuse to vote in these staged elections.

                  How is the Republican Party gonna Dump Trump? The KochMachine is not amused. Are they negotiating a corporate buyout plan as we speak? Trying to break his business did not work. Can’t wait to see who fronts the buyout money.

              • I agree 100% with your post, however most of our fellow citizens are not in tune with studying the candidates; most vote by party only, not what is best for America. And to top that, in today’s world, the majority are not veterans who have served this great nation.

              • Question: this Muslim terrorist was born in the United States. I know Bush Squared flooded this country with Muslims, as has Obama. Who was the first President to start this trend? I remember Houston going Muslim under Bush because I was still living in cities then. I feel a researchbug attacking me. Have you seen the “nice Muslim” video of Bush? If it weren’t for Jebster, I’d call Obama Bush Cubed. All that’s left is who tells them to spew such lies? It must come from above because it is too similar to not be policy.

                Jihadists living in the United States are inciting genocide. I guess they don’t care how many of their own die to start WWIII.

            • Guys. Please dont hark on me too much but I dont think it was terror related. This guy seems to be a smart person. Educated and held a good job (70k)for 5 years. He was born here and was schooled here in public school. He bought his own weapons and ammo (AR’s not AK’s) supposedly had pipe bombs. Not real explosives or explosive vests. Neither him nor his wife blew themselves up or committed suicide on the scene. No one yelled anything about terrorism.
              So the question that I always ask myself in these cases it who profited from this?
              The Muslims? No
              Him or his wife? No
              Someone at the place he worked? No, he shot almost everyone..
              The whole purpose of terrorism is to terrorize. They killed people but did they terrorize anyone? Not really. Mostly confusion there.
              Anyone who would do something like that in this day and age expects to get caught. But they wore masks trying to hide their identity. Dosent make sense when you drive your own car there an hour after you storm out of the place. Someone is gonna suspect you.
              If it really was a terrorist attack,why didnt they kill everyone? They could have made an epic slaughter there. Probably could have killed many hundreds. There were lots of people there. They had plenty of ammo but when they shot up the banquet room they just left. They didnt have the zeal.
              Dosent make sense from a terrorism standpoint.

              Unless they were forced to do it. Perhaps someone kidnapped the woman family in Pakistan or threatened their family here. Who knows. It just dosent add up.

              • No, it doesn’t add up; your idea’s that is.

                Wonder who the other people were that the neighbor saw coming and going from the late night garage visitations? She said she saw as many as six at one time, and she wasn’t the only one to witness them.

                Oh yea, maybe you can say they were doing wood working projects, like you just pulled that “I don’t think it was terror related” stuff, out of your ass.

                Please give us a break, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.

                Only fools fall for the liberal blather like the potus is spewing.

                Terror is a mind game played upon the masses by continually hitting/killing, soft targets, that may or may not get the perpetrators killed.
                All adult members of islam have the potential to pull off the exact same terror plot, anywhere in America, at anytime.
                They are in every state, and every mosque. They are not coming here for the wine and soft cushy furniture.

                Get a grip!

                • Cradletograve,

                  You are correct! Every effort and a lot of expense is being made and spent to make the case to call this workplace violence, so that they (TPTB) can push for ‘gun control’ and disarm the citizenry. Law enforcement, the MSM, the libtards are all going way out of their way to spin and control the narative and shut down those who disagree with their agenda. America is more divided than ever before and many so called ‘Republicans’ have been exposed and are now showing their true colors. Black Friday’s news that gun sales have actually increased more than ever should be heartening to those who truly love this country.

              • Wake up and smell the coffee. Most suicide bombers don’t come from “poverty stricken homelands” or are “disenfranchised youth” any more than common criminals commit crimes because they are “impoverished”. Such thinking is what has allowed the Islamic cancer o grow into an existential threat.

                Islam demands the enslavement or killing of infidels.

                • FLASHBACK: Obama Assured No Imminent Terror Threat — Days Ago
                  -Breitbart dot com

                  San Bernadino Attackers Left Remote Controlled Bomb at Party
                  nbcnews dot com

                • Why has NONE of the too many to keep track of Mulsim attacks IE Shoe Bomber guy on airplane, etc etc etc…NOT Yet ever attacked a single one of the synagouges of satan?

                  “If” as we keep hearing daily, especially from fox tv and glen beck and every right wing radio talk show host and radio guest ‘experts”…That the most hated of all of Islamic enemys are jews and their jewsih state of israel.

                  And with america now the main Host nation to Well Over 1/2+ of all of worlds aprox 15 million jewish folks.

                  One would think surely by now and with so many muslim related attacks and attempted attacks FBI claims they thwarted so far here within usa…

                  That by now Both state of Israel And at least a few synagouges of satan or maybe a few homes or buisness’s owned by a jew would have been hit no?

                  Somebodys lying big time about this stuff, and far too many otherwise smart american folk are still accepting the vast propaganda spewed from mainly organized International jewry and its kommie-Political-Wing of zionism… Via their total control of MSM outlets, As 100% factual Truth, when no such claim of truth we get told holds water.

                  For what? at Least 20 years now is it? Americans has been told daily by every tv station news shows, and newspapers nationwide of how much muslims so Hates jews and so hates Israel state…But everytime they report an attack or attempted attack of any type muslim related, it happens to Non jewish goys….If that aint Pre-Scripted Propaganda? what else can it be?

              • Ed, you’re making no sense at all. Trying to put rational thought into a terror attack is irrational.

                You’re also introducing quite a few assumptions, ‘facts’ without evidence.

                Just for one, answer this, how many terrorist attacks have occurred that had survivors? According to you, unless everyone is killed, it’s not a terror attack.

                It’s not supposed to make sense. The purpose of terror is terror.

          • Believe me when I say, I’d have no qualms about writing off family or acquaintances, were any to be Obama-voting Libs. I can’t offer that I’d write off a friend of such type because they’d never be allowed to occupy that spot.

          • free,
            they are NOT libs they are LIBTARDS!!!!

            • Dem! I have friends, family, neighbors, and co-workers who are LibTards!

              There must be lots of other preppers in the same boat as me.

              I’m friendly to them as much as I can handle it.

              • free,
                i have friends who are dems and i cannot handle there BS for very long as it appears there brains are fogged!! BUT they are libtards, and i wonder how mentally stable they will be when they do open there eyes! i think lots of them will have a mental break-down!!

              • I have libtards and republitards and baas hawgs and banksters in the family. Oh well. I am not shooting my people, not even one. With endless media lies, corruption at all levels, corporate-owned everything, it is hard for people to know the truth. Even those who should know better start blaming victims of this mess of corruption instead of perps.

          • How can you as president speak like that when 14 lives were lost for God sake, i can see his face like telling us ” ahh this ain’t no big deal calm down” seriously? if there is a shooting against black people he sure quickly jumps to conclusions pulling the race card, this guy is a joke, i can’t believe what i am hearing, i think we need to take the right Hussein out of power.

          • Yes you should prepare to abandon the misguided. It might cost you a *lot* more later if you don’t.

            • You buy right in to TPTB Divide and Conquer for Dummies. I am keeping all the tarsIin my family.

        • When the Muslims attack the White House while Obola is in, only then will it be workplace violence not terrorism.

          • I am 100% against abortions, and consider it murder, but if some genius could please invent a sonogram that will identify liberals before they are born…well it would solve a lot of problems…nipped in the bud, if you will.

            • Earth has too many people on it already.

              • Too many Muslims on it anyway!j

            • A few months ago, I read that a number of computer projections (including one by the smart boys at M.I.T.) showed a massive population drop right around 2030. Mind you, these were (fairly sophisticated) separate and independent studies factoring in as many variables as possible relating to consumption of resources, economics, military issues, population growth, environmental factors and they ALL displayed a big population drop (read: die-off) at pretty much the same point.

              If a species experiences no control of its birth population, Nature will eventually balance things on the Death side of the equation. Humans have infected the planet like a pathogen that is out of control, and exacerbated the situation to an extreme degree through cleverness and wanton destruction of natural resources and other species. But nothing like this can continue forever; and when the pendulum swings the other way, it will probably make the 15th-century plague look like batting practice.

              According to those projections, we have roughly 14 years to get ready. Maybe less.

              Will it really happen? Well, everyone who preps prefers to be as ready as possible for a long term crisis situation, instead of finding out the hard way. And the way things are going, it’s not hard to envision a cataclysmic convergence — a ‘perfect storm’, so to speak — in the not-too-distant future.

              Just a cheery thought for the holidays…

              • Humans have infected the planet like a pathogen that is out of control, and exacerbated the situation to an extreme degree through cleverness and wanton destruction of natural resources and other species.

                Typical Malthusian. Perhaps you should find out who won the Julian Simon/Paul Ehrlich wager, and why.

                You remind me of Zeke “Please die at 75” Emanuel, or even worse, Eric Pianca at U of Texas, who wrote: “War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world’s population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. We’ve got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. You know, the bird flu’s good, too. For everyone who survives, he will have to bury nine.” As with Mr. Turner, there are no reports that Dr. Pianka is volunteering to help out the situation by going first.

                Or equally disgusting, Finnish writer Pentti Linkola is the classic uber-greenie, who wants to reduce Earth’s population to 500 million and abandon modern technology (presumably he is getting his message out via smoke signals) who wrote: “What to do, when a ship carrying a hundred passengers suddenly capsizes and there is only one lifeboat? When the lifeboat is full, those who hate life will try to load it with more people and sink the lot. Those who love and respect life will take the ship’s axe and sever the extra hands that cling to the sides.” And of course, America is the core of the problem: “The United States symbolises the worst ideologies in the world: growth and freedom” Adds Linkola, and “Any dictatorship would be better than modern democracy. There cannot be so incompetent a dictator that he would show more stupidity than a majority of the people. The best dictatorship would be one where lots of heads would roll and where government would prevent any economic growth. We will have to learn from the history of revolutionary movements — the national socialists (Nazis), the Finnish Stalinists, from the many stages of the Russian revolution, from the methods of the Red Brigades — and forget our narcissistic selves.” Linkola has also publicly called for climate change deniers be “re-educated” in eco-gulags and that the vast majority of humans be killed, with the rest enslaved and controlled by a green police state, with people forcibly sterilized, cars confiscated and travel restricted to members of the elite (what? You expected the leftist elite to eat their own cooking?) No word from Linkola as to who will control the controllers, of course. A fellow Finnish environmentalist writer, Martin Kreiggeist, hails Linkola’s call for eco-gulags and oppression as “a solution,” calling for people to “take up the axes” in pursuit of killing off the third world. Kreiggeist wants fellow eco-fascists to “act on” Linkola’s call for mass murder in order to solve overpopulation. Linkola and Kreiggeist come from a long line of those that would just that! The Black Book of Communism, by Courtois, et al, says various flavor of the left murdered 100 million last century, while Dr. RJ Rummel, Univ. of Hawaii, puts the number as high as 160 million (the vast majority murdered by the left). See his web site at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/PERSONAL.HTM or take the time to review his magnum opus, Death by Government, which provides details on how he came up with his numbers.

            • Typical two-faced Republitard. It is only abortion if some libtard has one. Sigh.

          • They won’t till he is out of office, he is one and deserves to be hung from the closest oak

            • Would ANY real devout Islamic Mulsim ever assist Jewish Rabbis in their event of Lighting the top candle lights atop their 95 foot Tall Menorah erected each year ON whitehouse lawn where zero Christ Christmass Manger scene display is allowed due to conflict of wall of seperation etc?

              NO honest person here can possibly answer that they believe any real devout muslim would assist in such event correct?

              So how is it that Hobammy Does assist the rabbis each year in their Menorah Display lighting events?

              IF Hobammy really desires the real faithfull muslims in usa as well as globally worldwide to ever actually hold an ounce of respect for hobammy AS a fellow Muslim as so many here claim he is….Would hobammy do such a thing?

              Picture the Irianian Top Imam-high-Priest of islam assisting bearded wide brim black hatted orthodox rabbis in such a menorah lighting event…Can Anyone here actually sound convincing in eplaining how that would ever happen?…..More certain is that is ever such happened, that Iran top Imam priest leader would himself get stonned to death publically if not Beheaded in public view right!

              Yet somehow…Hobammys a devout upstanding life long muslim, seeks respect and honor from 1.5 muslims worldwide, and to garner such respect Hobammy each year HELPS Rabbis light their 95 Foot Tall Menorah while broadly smiling for tv camaras, as the camaras Pan in for close up shots of his and 5 to 6 Rabbis smileing faces as they light said menorah candle lights eh.

              The Only logic that makes sense is that while arab muslims are from Ishmael originally….Thier Cousins are in fact all of those askanazi Khazars who call themselves jewish and israeli jews whom of course decended down from their orig pastriarch ESAU aka the Edomites!

              No wonder jihadists has not attacked any synagouges of satan nor other jewish entities…

              America You been Hoaxed and royally Duped to think you have One main enemy aka muslims…When in reality you have TWO main enemy forces and the Other Enemy force is the muslims DNA Blood Cousins of modern day jewry. aka esau’s edomites….Wakey Wakey Whiteys!

        • That’s it Mac. Use your aggressive feelings. Let the hatred flow through you.

          Jesus was a kind man, but he wasn’t a nice man.

          Moral indignation is a good thing.

        • http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/121102





          • Spot on Acid.

          • Amen!

        • Yes work place violence. The difference is that when these people get up set at work they want to kill everyone around them not just find another job. I know many people that I disagree with but I don’t feel the need to kill them like Johnny Jihad. We just agree to disagree and do our job with mutual respect as human beings with different opinions.

        • This TRAITOR needs to be REMOVED from Our White House. Email & call your congress reps & ask them to do their Constitutional duty for national security. REMOVE the TRAITOR, SUSPEND ALL INCOMING VISAS FOR 24 MONTHS, ROUND UP ALL EXPIRED & OVERSTAYED /CRIMMINAL VISA RECIPIENTS AND DEPORT ALL OF THEM!

        • six year old boy asks- Mommy, why are the terrorists always muslim ?

        • it’s a fact that obommie is a commie and a muslim.

      2. Maybe we should all start sending the President a copy of the Koran. Enough to fill the White House. Just in time for the Holidays.

        • I think millions of Christmas cards bearing the message that “You’re Fired”, would be more appropriate!

      3. Yes, because people keep full body armor, massive ammo and automatic weapons in their Islamic households so that they can mass slaughter innocents at work if they get offended by something……..REALLY?????

        • Careful, that’s a slippery slope. Most of the commenters here have more guns, ammo, and body armor than that. It’s all about intent, not equipment. That’s a liberal line of thinking.

          • Yep. Ive been fighting that line of thought all day…

        • Anyone that shoots regularly will be buying ammo in thousand round lots to save money. I can easily use several hundred rounds in one afternoon at the range. If the family goes we can burn through a thousand rounds plus. On my own I can burn through a several thousand rounds a year.

          Having a few cases of ammo is no more a crime than buying club packs of paper towels, and hamburger.

          As far as the Obumbling idiot trying to call this work place violence, these Islamists rented the SUV for the attack three days ago, and began erasing their digital footprint the day before. The day before they also destroyed cell phones, computers, hard drives and documents. This was preplanned weeks ahead of the attack, it was not a crime of passion, it was jihad terrorism against the The American culture.

          It’s bad enough we have terrorists trying to destroy America, but now we have the libtard press and Obama working together exploiting terrorism to destroy our constitution and take our civil rights.

          • PTPO, you should be SAVING all the ammo that you can and try to use as little as possible at the range in order to maintain your shooting skills. I go the extra mile to conserve ammo and even then most of my target practice is with .22LR. there is a war coming to this land and we need to save all the ammo we can.

            • My philosophy is to buy a hundred, and use 50….. then repeat.

              I do practice with .22 and have a .22 conversion kit for one of my favorite handguns.

              Two years ago it was really tough, the 22 shortage was so bad I stopped shooting .22 to avoid cutting into my base supply. I was forced to buy the really cheap stuff for the range. It’s finally over and I can find the better high velocity copper jacketed stuff. The cheap stuff makes cleaning a firearm a bitch.

              Ammo shortages freaked me out enough that I’d start buying ammo for a new firearm purchase months before buying the actual firearm. What goods a firearm with no ammo.

              Many firearms don’t even come into their best accuracy until they’ve been broken in with 500 to a 1,000 rounds going down range. Ammo to break it in, sight it in and practice with it, is all part of the cost of a new firearm.

              • “What good is a firearm without ammo?” And there lies the pinch point. This will probably be King Koon’s avenue to control firearms.

              • When you buy ammo. Buy a magazine also.

              • I was stockpiling ammo long before Sandy Hook. I knew something like that would happen but not to the extent it really did. When I buy a gun I used to use up 500-1000 rounds myself to get it broken in but that was back before Sandy Hook and when everything was a lot cheaper. It’s a lot harder now to even find 500-1000 rounds to of any caliber to BUY let alone for breaking in a new weapon. I had also stopped practicing with .22 for awhile during the shortage to conserve my supply. Once the supply situation improved, I started going back to the range. I know what you mean about the cheap rounds. Now I only use the better quality rounds for practice myself. I still have to replace my 2 favorite pistols out of the 5 that were taken in the burglary and one of them was a Ruger SR22 that I got for Christmas last year. That was the best .22LR pistol I’ve ever owned. Gun show in my area Dec. 12-13 so I’ll be shopping then.

                • I like ammoseek.com for finding inexpensive ammo on the Internet. It’s not an ammo dealer, it is a dealer search tool. It’s where I usually find dealers to buy my range ammo from. There is another similar ammo search tool I’ve looked at, but the name slips my mind.

                  I often use ammoseek as a benchmark for evaluating local sales prices. Don’t forget to account for shipping charges and hazmat fees to the real cost for comparison.

                  Their search tool lets you add key words for your searches, like the words new brass. You can find unusual ammo, like 12 pellet 00 buck shot, 60 grain subsonic 22LR, 800 FPS 45, low velocity rifled shotgun slugs etc.

                • Try SGAmmo.com for bulk sales, prices are good.

        • Well Javelin I’ve got all that stuff, and thats the only reason I had it. Now that I’m retired I don’t know what to do with it. Guess I could give to the Salvation Army. Trekker Out.

      4. The FEDS have to maintain the false narrative that the only way to stop mass shootings is total gun control.

        We all know that Obama supports ISIS and Muslim terrorists. This is no different than Benghazi and the false narrative that came out about so bullshit video that nobody ever heard of. Remember when Hillary Clinton told the father of the dead Seal that, “we are going to arrest the person who made that video.”

        They never have arrested anybody in connection to that attack, but they did arrest the video maker. That’s what he gets for thinking he had freedom of speech.

        These are perilous times. The FED propaganda is just as bad as the Nazi’s leading up to WWII.

        Anybody see Neal Cavuto on Fox News today? He tore a new asshole on the cop haters, including media outlets. He played a video of an unidentified policeman escorting people out of the building. The policeman was reassuring people and told them that he would take a bullet before he let anybody else in the group get shot.

        Very heroic and brave officer.

        • SAN BERNARDINO (CBSLA.com) — The Coroner’s Office on Thursday released a list of the victims in the massacre in San Bernardino.

          The 14 people killed are:

          Shannon Johnson, 45, Los Angeles (DOB: 03/06/70)
          Bennetta Bet-Badal, 46, Rialto (DOB: 03/08/69)
          Aurora Godoy, 26, San Jacinto (DOB: 02/01/89)
          Isaac Amanios, 60, Fontana (DOB: 06/29/55)
          Larry Kaufman, 42, Rialto (DOB: 08/12/73)
          Harry Bowman, 46, Upland (DOB: 06/08/69)
          Yvette Velasco, 27, Fontana (DOB: 04/03/88)
          Sierra Clayborn, 27, Moreno Valley (DOB: 06/15/88)
          Robert Adams, 40, Yucaipa (DOB: 05/02/75)
          Nicholas Thalasinos, 52, Colton (DOB: 10/14/63)
          Tin Nguyen, 31, Santa Ana (DOB: 04/06/84)
          Juan Espinoza, 50, Highland (DOB: 06/24/65)
          Damian Meins, 58, Riverside (DOB: 02/02/57)
          Michael Wetzel, 37, Lake Arrowhead (DOB: 04/29/78)


          If I was related to a victim, I’d be pissed at the Libs for trying to turn this Islamic terrorist massacre into a political gun control measure.

          • Thanks for the info FS.

            Personalising the victim stats makes a big difference.

            Their SHTF date has passed… Be prepared people, you never know the minute.

          • But of course, the fascist left WILL turn this into a gun control issue. Not that Dianne Feinstein will stop carrying, Michael Moore will get rid of his armed body guards, or Obungler will get rid of the Secret Service. After all, as Leona Helmsley once said, and Obama crony Jon Corzine, his Solyndra buddies, or Hilary’s DECADES of lies and worse proved, laws are just for “little people.”

            Non violence is the way forward, and our battle is with the PEN, not the sword (which is why what Mac is doing is so important). But this does NOT mean self-defense is out, nor does it in any way take one single iota away from the 2nd Amendment. I am just saying the way forward for peace-loving conservatives is ****education and information dissemination.**** If we lose that battle, we lose everything, as already the mindless leftist “Yes we can/Yes we have no bananas” chanters/mobs seem to rule much of the political discourse (or as the Mark Dice man on the street interviews show). It is here the battle is being lost. So folks, write! Get active talking with family and friends! Become a precinct committteman! Letters to the editor! Yes, it will take time to turn the Brobdignagian leftist ship around. So, you can complain, whine and despair… or get started now.

            As Charleton Heston wrote: “Cultural warfare, while no less a transfer of power from one group to another, is for the most part seemingly painless. There are no tortured screams or bloody wounds, no limb-strewn nightmares to haunt a generation. In fact, cultural warlords seek to keep the battle from becoming bloody. Modern media fills the cultural airwaves with a mist of anesthesia, so that principles and values are slowly desensitized to the coming onslaught. The new culture arrives on the heels of this propaganda. It simply moves in and takes over, like slipping a fine new glove over a numbed hand. The outcome of the war is just as devastating, but without bombs bursting, twisted bodies to bury, or rubble to rebuild. A new class, a different culture, simply takes over.”

          • Thank you for sharing. I was born in SB County and lived there most my life. For many years I lived in SB city limits with close ties to the SO and CHP. We finally moved because of gangs and meth. They are everywhere and though we lived in a nice neighborhood, we still had to grocery shop somewhere. My husband got to where he wouldn’t let us go out at night or to the mall even during the day. He was CHP and always carried his weapon. I remember when they opened Walmart in Highlands during the 90’s and I was forbidden to go there….brand new store but so many meth heads.

            I wouldn’t live in that city without carrying. It’s unfortunate because it really was a beautiful city back in the 60’s/70’s. It killed my husband to leave his childhood home but, high speed chases, house being broke into, and prowlers finally did him in.

            Nobody I recognize on that list.

            • One of my cousins was CHP in San Bernardino. .. it got very scary. I have lost track of him. He would have already retired by now.

      5. I keep waiting for the Army to drag this fool out of the White House. Why hasn’t it happened ?

        • virginiamom

          The army will not do that. It is ingrained in them not too. If that happens we don’t know what kind of man may be in charge. It could be another hitler. The sad thing is both parties are involved in this and I believe some of the top of the military. This will end badly. If you are close to central VA let me know. We have a group that is going to have a meet and greet on the 12th.

          • Mike, there is a saying:

            “He who takes the tyrants head, becomes the tyrant in his stead”
            I believe that to be true.

        • virginiamom, just heard again today how the Secret Service fell down on the job. They must be scratching their head when they think about how this is such a racist country and O is the first black Prez and they leave all these openings and still no one takes advantage of them. Trekker Out. Go Figure!

        • did you know that Obama has fired more generals and officers than ANY other president?

          Obama has fired even more than Lincoln did during the civil war. Lincoln fired generals when ever they lost a battle.

          Obama has filled the military top rank with like minded people, so all the conservative and traditional military people are now gone. Only the LBGT Generals and staff are left in charge.

          • “LBGT”??? Left brain gay turdknockers?

      6. A total ass is occupying the White House. Not too many believe him anymore. He has become irrelevant. He needs to resign and go home early. Biden is looking better by the day.

        • Jim, sadly ~50% of Amerikans still believe that POS.

      7. It’s not him, it’s the entire mentality of the generation. They have been so brainwashed to regurgitate the party line. I had a usually smart guy defend Obama’s line that mass shootings don’t happen anywhere but the US while Obama was standing in PARIS! The guy said, oh that wasn’t a mass shooting, that was a terrorist attack. There is a difference (he said, as if talking to a stupid kid). In his mind, the WORDS themselves took on a real distinct meaning. This is why you can argue about workplace violence vs. Terror. AND BELIEVE IT.

      8. Mac, OF COURSE it was workplace-related!!!

        Some people spent all their time at work the past few weeks PLANNING this mass slaughter!

        And some others are spending all their time at work LYING or OBFUSCATING about it!

        Just like some are spending all their time at work LYING about WHY there are refugees, something NOBODY in the MASS media is addressing!

        The REASON for the refugees is the wholesale slaughter of anyone who professes to be CHRIST-ians.

        And this being a CHRIST-mas party, well, I think the attacks on Christian Americans will continue, gosh, I sure hope I am wrong about that.

        “St. Michael the Archangel,
        Defend us in battle,
        Be our protection
        Against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
        May God rebuke him we humbly pray,
        And do thou, Oh Prince of the Heavenly Hosts
        Cast into hell Satan,
        and all the evil spirits
        Who prowl around the world
        Seeking the ruin of souls,

        • Amen.

      9. Almost as if he (and three letter acronyms) support them.

        • Yes, America has gone from fighting terrorism to colluding with terrorism.

          Russia is correct. America funded and armed ISIS.

      10. Gun Control really helped the people in France- Helped them get slaughtered like sheep.

        • Only the stupid ones that complied.

        • Gun control did not stop these California terrorists from making pipe bombs. Pipe bombs are strictly prohibited.

          Gun control is people control.

      11. Friends the shootings are going to increase from now on. The use of tactical and night and/or thermal gear will be used more. This will lead to a ban of the average person owning said gear. The ban of assault weapons (defined as any weapon capable of firing full or semi-automatic, long or hand), the manufacture, selling, and ownership will be put in place. The ban of ammunition for said weapons (calibers these are chambered for), will also be put in place. Now the ban of said calibers ammunition has totally done away with all weapons in these calibers, be it shotgun, rifle, or hand gun, hey no ammo no go bang. That means any gun action, bolt to single shot and yes wheel, all gun chambered in those calibers period. So by banning the ammunition they have basically ban all fire arms under the ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN.
        I have said it my entire life when will TPTB make their move; the winter time, why because people will be to hard pressed for food and staying warm to fight. Jade Helm was nor more than the moving and placement of equipment and personnel to set up a perimeter around the warmer states to keep the northern folks from going there out of the cold. They will shut down the grid in the north, because the cold will help to do away with more people quicker. Now back to the coming for guns; if you have ever bought one and filled out 4473, have a ccw, or like Illinois with a Foid card or are a veteran you’re on the list for the knock on the door first. They will save that for latter, first they will let nature take its course in as people confiscate everything themselves, when everything is shut off from them; remember this will be in the winter time. As for the unleashing of the Government thugs and the FEMA camps on the people, that comes with the Spring Round up if you will or the Government’s mop-up. People say if you shut down the grid the nuke power plants will melt down, hey they produce their own electric power to operate on, be it nuke or coal. Now the oil refiners also produce their own power to work. I know I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed, but hey what the hell. Look let’s get real if total SHTF happens a very high percentage of anyone over the age of 50 will not make it through to the other side and just what the other side will look like, my guess HORRIBLE to say the least that’s for sure. So what is the FIRST and FOR MOST preparation you can do right now: GET RIGHT WITH GOD NOW IF YOU ARE NOT ALREADY!

        Friends, this is all in my humble opinion; for what it’s worth. I’m going the of same way as a lot of good folks that were on here, like JOG, BI, and so many more, so with a big THANK YOU Mr. SLAVO so long.

        AT THE LAST STRAW: over and out.

        • ATLS

          Good Luck. Keep your ear to the ground. You’ll do fine.

        • This prayer is dedicated to all the Sheepdogs who make our world a safer place to live. To all of the law enforcement / rescue / military personnel and armed citizens: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

          By Roger E. Temple – Revised 02/2011

          The Knights of Olde were Men of Honor
          Who used their Might For Right!
          Today they’re known as Sheepdogs,
          Those who carry on the fight.

          I am a tired old Sheepdog,
          The guardian of my flock.
          I keep the predators at bay
          And stand watch around the clock.

          Please stop the Sheep from pulling my teeth.
          I’ll need them for the fight,
          When the hungry Wolves come calling
          Some dark and deadly night.

          I pray I’ll never need my gun,
          But someday if I do,
          May my cause be just!
          My draw be quick!
          And my aim be ever true!

          Heaven holds a special place
          For those who do the deed,
          Defenders of the innocent
          In their hour of need.

          May the Sheep someday be grateful.
          There’s a debt they can not pay
          To the Sheepdogs who lay it on the line
          Each and every day.

          I am proud to be a Sheepdog.
          I’ve done my very best.
          I’ll stand my watch until my Maker
          Calls me home to rest.

          But when I meet St. Peter
          There’s just one request I’ll make,
          “Please let me spend Eternity
          Standing guard at Heaven’s Gate”.

          Lord, help us bring this ”Age of Sheep”
          To a rapid end.
          Then fill this land with Sheepdogs,
          Men of Honor, once again.

          This prayer is dedicated
          To those who bravely face,
          The dangers all around us,
          To make our world a safer place.

          To the soldiers, cops and warriors-
          Sheepdogs through and through.
          Thank you for your service
          And your sacrifices too.


            I pray the sheepdogs soon awaken
            To the innocent lives that they have taken
            Killing for the elite cabal
            Ensuring the plan that we will fall
            Kill for those you say you hate
            Just follow orders don’t hesitate
            Hypocracy within runs free
            What did you do to defend me?
            You conquor and steal and occupy
            You mindlessly believe the lie
            That you are protecting the USA
            Instead are pawns to have their way
            I have some news that you should hear
            You have been brainwashed, filled with fear
            Stop falling for thier bullshit lies
            And try to open up your eyes
            Get on the side of your own people
            And do not fall in with the sheeple
            Defend us from the enemy within
            Just take them out it is no sin
            I pray you can hold your heads up high
            And say for freedom I will die…

            • I have learned in my time that most people who name themselves genius truly are idiots.

              • I have learned in my lifetime that if you can’t tell your surrounded by idiots, your probably one of them. Are you butthurt that I point out the truth or something? Care to argue some points? I am always up for discussion on my posts if you aren’t afraid. If I’m wrong I will admit it freely, if not then my words stand true. Let’s get this rollin ok. (oh ya I never went to college and am not an academic so keep the big werds to a minimum ha ha ha). You first (and make it an intelligent point) 🙂

                • Genius sure

                  I have a bachelors degree in arguing with idiots. That is if you can control your temper.

                  • Is that your reply? I have a masters at debating idiots lol. I can be calm now say something smart. 🙂

                    • Lol I said that because most on here don’t want an intelligent debate. I do. We all learn from it. If I am wrong then so be it. I still learn something if there is a friendly disagreement and debate.

                    • Mike, I am always up for an intelligent debate whether right or wrong. And as you if I am wrong then it was constructive and I learned something. The thing is I will and do defend my posts until proven wrong. Being a free thinker and having common sense and critical thinking ability and (like it matters) a pretty high IQ I get tired of stupid things people do around me. I guess it’s like wondering to myself “why the hell don’t these people around me get a clue or see what is obvious to me?” Because I think I don’t seem to fit in with the pack. Which is fine because I surely never want to be in they’re position. I very much appreciate and covet intelligent conversations and love knowledge. This site is one of the VERY FEW places I can get that. Talking to the average joe is like talking to my hand. Maybe it’s a curse or maybe a blessing I don’t know. But I will always do my thing and always seek the truth in matters and always try to improve myself. It just bugs me a lot of times that others don’t see what I see and continue spewing bullshit they parrot without thinking it through. Academia is not intelligence, it is just a program to suck real thinking out of your head and take up too much space. How many academics do you know that are truly smart and can be survivalists? Professors of idiocracy. I may be right and I may be completely wrong, I won’t know until I am proven wrong lol.

                    • OK, so you’re a masterdebater, we didn’t need to know that.

                    • smokey, what are you doing butting in on intelligent conversation? This is way over your head. Now go play in traffic….

                • I have to get up at 3am. So if we don’t finish this then we will some other time.
                  It is statistically proven that 10 percent of people are basically sheep dogs. The ones who run to the situation. The ones who fight. 80 percent of people are the type that freeze. They don’t know what to do. Some of that 80 percent can become sheep dogs with training but they freeze even for that crucial second. The other 10 percent are the ones who choose flight. They try to run.
                  A lot of the sheep dogs are service members, ex service members, cops, fire, rescue squad ect. A lot are just good people that have training to protect there family. They have chosen that route.
                  The majority of people who serve are good people. Whether they wear a uniform or just choose to help in the emergency situation.
                  Comments like yours are what the government wants. They want us divided so that they may conquer. I am proud of my time in the service. I would hate to serve under the current jack ass.
                  Most service members feel that way. I am not speaking for generals. I am speaking for the enlisted and low rank officers. Most cops are sick of the PC bull crap they have to put up with. They arrest the same people over and over again and are prosecuted because they threw the idiot into the car for example. The rescue squad people are sick of being used as a taxi. So many times they are called to take someone with a cold or fake cold to the hospital. Just giving a ride to town.
                  Fire fighters put there life on the line just like all the rest. I am tired of people thinking that these people are bad just because the leadership of our country is a bunch of scoundrels.
                  We never hear of the heroics of any of these people unless it is for the benefit of the press or elite.

                  Don’t fall into the trap that is set for us all of divide and conquer. If the trap is sprung then we lose.

                  • Ok that was a good point. But I didn’t say everything they do is for the elite. There is some good in some actions and for the most part people are good and have good intentions. I am a volunteer firefighter for example. If I was ever told to do something against my belief system or flat out wrong I would tell them to shove it. I am saying the enforcers are brainwashed into thinking the agenda is rightious and for your benefit. Nothing is further from the truth. 911 is a great example, it stirred up the hatred and testosterone pumped wanna kill idiots signed up in droves without questioning ANY of it! What has that accomplished? It accomplished your further enslavement and the wet dreams of the NWO assholes who propagated it and had the patriot act already written and shoved it down your throat while you waved the flag saying god bless amerika. Who benefited from this bullshit? The elite did not you. They not only gained control of (countries that didn’t go along or wanted to sell oil in euros) but got the police state installed with no more than a whimper. Ever since the so called WAR ON TERROR has given them free reign to bitch slap the people in the face with draconian and unlawful orders. By fighting for the govt. that wants you dead you are being ignorant and shooting yourself in the foot. Haven’t you noticed how the vets are treated? You are considered a terrorist and denied benefits etc. They spit on you and think of you as just an attack dog to do their dirty work. How much proof do you need? Take off the rosie glasses and learn to see that you were used like toilet paper and get over the lie that you did good for the country. I know it is hard to admit that you were wrong and were just used but the truth will set you free. When that realization hits you it is earth shattering that you bought a giant lie. It takes real courage to face something like that and change your paradigm. Some would rather die than see it. Some will kill to defend it. The few, the truth seekers embrace it….

                    • Genius

                      I think you misunderstand me and the sheep dog prayer. To be honest there was no way you could understand where I was coming from because I did not state it. I am an Oath Keeper. I have stood guard at recruiting stations because of how our soldiers are treated. They ordered not to speak to us but most disobeyed that order. We were considered terrorist doing that.
                      For the sake of honesty which is my # 1 pet peeve I will say some things that hurt but are the truth.
                      When 911 happened I supported the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq, and the patriot act. The only one that I was correct on was possibly the invasion of Afghanistan and it looks like I may have been wrong on that front too.
                      The patriot act was a horrible mistake and I should have known that from history. I believe it was Ben Franklin who said ” Someone who is willing to give up freedom for security will have neither “. The reason I feel the way I do regarding Afghanistan is the opium. They are not like the other nations we are currently involved in. I do believe there were training camps there that needed to be taken care of. Question is why are we still there and why are we not torching the Opium fields? It appears we were interested in the largest production of Opium in the world rather than oil in that country.
                      Why are we not truly fighting a war? We put our troops under ridiculous engagement rules that care more about foreign lives than we do our own sons and daughters. The country today is fighting over oil, resources, and the reserve currency. We are meddling in places where we have no right to be.
                      Being a vet at one point meant you had fought against communism, the Nazi’s and had tried to liberate people and preserve freedom. Freedom that gives us the rights we have including free speech to do what you and I are doing now. Not anymore unfortunately. We are a falling empire that is flailing wildly trying to preserve it’s power. Fighting over resources and money not for the good of people.
                      Is there a fight we should be fighting? Yes. We should be fighting against sharia law and radical Islam. There is no way to negotiate with someone who will kill you for your own beliefs. Twice in the past couple of months I have had discussions with people who believed if they just had money and good jobs they would leave us alone. They are so ignorant when it comes to this issue. The fight has nothing to do with money. They are thinking as most Americans think. The fight is over a belief system. We must win that fight or things like California will continue to happen. We don’t need to invade any country to fight this fight. I wish we would just close the border bring our troops home and let them guard it. That will not happen though because we are fighting a so called war against terror which is really for resources.
                      I give my utmost respect and thanks to most vets, police officers, fire fighters, and first responders. A lot have put there life on the line since 911 believing it was for you, the country, and myself. For that they deserve respect. The majority of these people are waking up and realize as I have what is going on. I know so many being a past vet and in Oath Keepers. I also know some in the intelligence areas of the military. They are all so frustrated at this point.
                      The government has tried to pit us all against each other. Police against citizens. Military against citizens. Black against white. Men against women. Gays against straight. Gays against the church. ect.
                      It is all one huge powder keg waiting to explode by design. Those of us who stand watch must be aware of this. We must do what we can to prevent divisions. We must stand together when the time to fight does come. We will not succeed in the fight unless we do. I thank you for your service as a fire fighter. It shows you care about people. It also says you are the first 10 percent. One of the sheep dogs.
                      I think you misunderstood where I was coming from as a fellow sheep dog. I hope my honesty sheds some light on it. I don’t find anything in your post that I really disagree with. I think we are both right. If there is something you feel I am wrong on please let me know. You may be able to teach me something.

                    • Thank you Mike, you are a good man. You have reason and want truth also which most people do not. That is cool that you stand outside the recruiters and tell kids the truth. Possibly saving lives from being wasted for the cabal. We are being systematically set up for global govt. and depopulation and rule by iron fist. We live in interesting times no doubt about that and we must hang together or hang seperately. I just hope people know who their enemy really is and it’s not just islam, it is the ones foisting this on us too. Pray the military sees what they are being used for and can have the courage to say NO! Blindly following orders is suicide, and the responsibility of those actions lies with the order follower. If enough people say no it will shut the war machine down and give control back to the people. We can only hope, keep up the good work my man 🙂

        • ATLS, sorry to see you go. I really enjoyed your posts. Best wishes to you and yours and never give up the fight.

          • Braveheart

            I am sorry to see him go too. I will be here as long as I think I can help and do some good. Things are really going to heat up in the next two months I think.

            May God bless you and yours and all on here.

        • What does TPTB mean?

          • The powers that be…

        • ATLS, blessings to you and may God keep you and after this is all over maybe we can meet!

      12. Remember what the neighbor said about suspicions regarding lots of people working in Farook’s garage, and lots of deliveries? The neighbor wanted to alert officials but was afraid it might be racial profiling. It is time to follow Obama’s own words and if you “see something, say something”. There is no downside. Alert law enforcement to ANY activities of Muslims. Terrorist Muslims will be arrested or at least monitored, and innocent Muslims will be uncomfortable from the pressure and exit the country. If they don’t like the scrutiny, tough luck!

        • i say go one step more

          if you know of any Muslim go ahead and call the local LEO and turn them in for any thing! like i have done in the past year

          i saw this old Hag bitch Muslim walking down the street and while most would say it was harmless i simply don’t want any of them around so i called local PD and said Muslim women walking down street and appears to be studying gated community.

          and looking for possible entry points etc
          local LEO showed up and informed IT too maybe walk some place else and not be so visible

          you should have heard IT scream

          problem solved IT no longer walks in neighborhood

          Racist ??? you bet your ass

          skittle shittin unicorn

          • Bwahahahahaha.

            Fuckin’ love it.

      13. someone should pour pig blood on their graves

        • No burial for the likes of them.

          Their corpses should be hung up in full public view for as long as possible with a large sign stating.


          We need to stop being so humanitarian.

      14. America has a problem. It is called Democrats. The Mulatto that was elected twice, is a POS. The people that elected him are the ones that belong in a field with their skulls piled up in a mound.
        I prep, because the biggest danger to my health, safety, and welfare is the Democrat run governments I have to deal with. I’m not afraid of nature, sun flares, volcanoes, or earthquakes. I am afraid of the government.

        • “I prep, because the biggest danger to my health, safety, and welfare is the Democrat run governments I have to deal with.”

          I actually think the pre-revolutionary colonists in America had less to fear from King George than we citizens do from POTUS Obama.

        • “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” Jefferson

      15. Maybe the problem was a Muslim at a Christmas party asshole!

        • The sole purpose for this Islamist POS showing up at the party was to case the place, so his attack would be more successful.

        • And he was backed up by his muslim president and caliphate hero.

      16. Children,

        It is time to stock up on ammo, buy those guns you have put off buying cause there might be no tomorrow and pray they collect dust.


        • Went to Academy yesterday for some Christmas shopping. I took a glance at the ammo. Everything was in stock ecept for .22LR.

          you could by 3 50 round boxes of 22lr, but that was it. No bricks of 22lr.

          This has been a problem from a long time now. For some reason the 22lr is just not available in any large quantities. (at regular prices)

          • Local auction here, there were bricks of .22LR selling for $150. Remington HP. The Colibri was going for $65-$85 a brick. This was a gun store that was liquidating inventory.

            The hoarders and panic buyers are still out there.

          • buy primers and powder. Load up. Lots of ’em.

            shotgun shells are easiest. you can find empty hulls for nothin’ or you aren’t payin’ attention. Cast your own 00 buck out of pure lead. that’s like sending 9 Navy Colt rounds down range with one shot.

        • buy pump 12 gauge shotguns. load for ’em. 00 buck mostly. you can buy a lee mold, cheap, tha’ll throw 9-00 buck with one cast, pure lead.

      17. Obummer believes in lying continually and the people will believe it. If he admitted we have a jihadi terror problem this would be a game changer. He has already weighed out what will happen and has to continue serving shit sandwiches and hyping up how good they taste. night vision and thermal will not be banned but can you afford the right gear. The stuff they don’t want everyone to have is big bucks if you got the $ and want it get it. Look at semi auto 50bmg rifles they are like $9500 no way does it cost that much to produce these the mark up is high probably because gov don’t want that many out there and they know average joe is not gonna take a note for a shtf toy. Pvs14 is like 3 to 4K ya its balls but your not gonna get one because your wife will flip besides look at all the other stuff you could get for the$. The rich people will have the good gear but this doesn’t mean they will be able to make it through alive. As long as average joe don’t have it they stand a chance. the cold only kills people that don’t know how to deal with it. I know people who live with no heat here in the northeast the heat going out will not stop people around here. There is wood to burn everywhere you’d be a moron to freeze to death. Southerners are used to being warm they’d think it was the end of the world. Everyone here has SUVs and trucks snowmobiles quads people are used to dealing with balls deep snow and have the back to shovel heavy wet snow. I come home from a 10 hr shift and shovel a double wide driveway with 3 ft of snow within an hour. Everybody has a wood stove and cuts and splits wood. If your lazy stay down south you won’t make it up here.

        • That sweat you make when shovelling snow sure dose freeze quick.

          Be warm ‘n’ cosy Mr Hat.

        • well, yankee, don’t sound like you ever met up with Nathan Bedford Forrest’s boys.

          most yankees voted for obommie, a muslim and POS.

      18. Yep

        That white spot on top of chicken shit

        That’s chicken shit too

      19. If they come for the guns door to door then that means war. They know that. They have to find another way to get them. Sales of fire arms have been way up since our jack ass took office. They will do anything they can to get them. I just don’t think they will try the door to door. They will try it another way. They always do. Any thoughts on how? Taxes on everything to make things extremely expensive. Maybe laws against certain fire arms and demanding that they be turned in for money. They won’t get them but they may try that.
        To me and most with fire arms. The more attacks that happen the more I ensure they will not get any of mine and I am armed to the teeth at all times. Even in my own living room.

        • Mike in VA,

          My speculation is that the Libs in Government Power will exact extreme measures to those refuse to turn in their firearms. They won’t go door to door to confiscate. They’ll have you turn them in because the penalties otherwise are more severe than you turning in your firearms.

          Once you turn them in, they’ll remove you from the consequences of their penalties.

          Just my speculation.

          • Well I sold mine on Craig’s list. Sorry I had some rough times and got in a pinch.

            • Mike in VA, ever since the home invasion at my place last week I’ve only grown more determined than ever to defend me and mine. The past 2 nights I’ve been spooked in the middle of the night. I still have a .380 I was keeping in the truck at the time of the burglary and keeping at home until I replace my 2 favorite pistols that were taken. Last night I awoke at 2AM hearing someone trying to get into my truck in the driveway, or so I thought. I got up and went with the .380 in one hand and a 1000-lumen LED flashlight in the other hand to investigate but found no one around. I’ve got another trip to the BOL in GA scheduled for the holidays. that time can’t come soon enough for me. gun show in my area Dec. 12-13. Will be going there shopping for one of my replacements.

              • I did not know that had happened. I am so sorry. Try putting pots and pans at every door. An old world war 1 veteran taught me that. You can use fishing line or small rope attached to cans at the windows.
                Just trying to suggest things to help. Also consider buying a motion censer solar light or several that can be placed in areas around your truck and home.
                You can also put fishing line attached to cans around 5 inches high in access points. They serve as trip wires that will make noise. You can think of a little meaner things like using bee’s, fecies, other non lethal things that would put a damper on someone.
                My thoughts and prayers will be with you. If you need anything feel free to get in contact with me.

                • Mike in VA, thanks for the concern and the tips. I’ll give those a try. Should be more effective than an alarm system. I’ve seen so many false alarms get set off and people get fined over those it’s pathetic.

                • he needs Claymores

                  • some say three inches, short, not too big around, like three inch rifle, but not so much.

                    good to scare the birds out of the cherries and such.

                    out of the bottle, look lively sport.

                  • EOTS, an idea like that could be hazardous to someone’s health.

              • I did not know that had happened. I am so sorry. Try putting pots and pans at every door. An old world war 1 veteran taught me that. You can use fishing line or small rope attached to cans at the windows.
                Just trying to suggest things to help. Also consider buying a motion censer solar light or several that can be placed in areas around your truck and home.
                You can also put fishing line attached to cans around 5 inches high in access points. They serve as trip wires that will make noise. You can think of a little meaner things like using bee’s, fecies, other non lethal things that would put a damper on someone.
                My thoughts and prayers will be with you. If you need anything feel free to get in contact with me.

              • Friend, sorry to see you were thieved.

                My advice: get “Man’s Best Friend.” I prefer feisty Beagles.
                Got me a pack of ’em. The females seem the best! Very protective.

                Every night they “sound off” at the slightest noise or rustling outside. They are whole lot bettern all the electronic BS they try to peddle you.

                A cop once told me–“If thugs want to do you harm they will cut your phone line into the house first–all that electronic crap and your phone then won’t work. Buy a gun and be proficient with it.” DONE!

              • Braveheart1776

                Nothing worse after the crime is to rob you of peaceful sleep. The best thing to do is step up the move to your BOL. When you get there, and even though you feel secure, you should do your home defense chores.

                Slid bar for sliding glass doors, dead bolts, window bars
                And drill a hole into the floor next to the door so you can drop a piece of metal bar into it. They can’t get the door open then. Get yourself a camera set that you can view outside even at night. I have one about $200.
                The motion sensors pick up night roaming cats and dogs, raccoons and even hopping toads. Things that set it off would have me in and out off bed all the time with weapon in hand.

                All the talk about Booby traps can get you in trouble. Save those goodies for the WROL scene.

                • You cain’t beat a good piece of hickory.

                  Sleep with your boots on… It’s worth it.

                • Sling, my next trip to GA is scheduled for the holidays. I hope to have both of those pistols replaced by then. IF circumstances dictate it, that could turn out to be my BUGOUT.

                • that’s right, sling. use traps only if you’re defending the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

                  of course, we’ll never have to do that, all being cowards, so I agree, no need for boobs, they’ll just trap you.

          • FreeSlave is right.

            If they want to confiscate guns. Expect the order in writing in the mail. Then expect all your bank accounts to be frozen and your salary garnished. They’ll flag you SS number and you won’t be able to work. When you get hungry enough and cold enough most people will comply. They’ll send out the swat team at 4:00 am for the few who won’t in sweeps. Your wake up call will be flaming tear gas shells being shot through your windows. If you are lucky you’ll get your family out in time and it’s off to the reeducation camp for you, meanwhile they’ll let your house burn to the ground. And check the rubble for gun parts. Your family will be homeless and penniless.

            • PTPO

              That would push us into a civil war.

            • That would be war- no going back…

          • Free Slave

            I asked a guy that defected from Armenia (he was a border guard and fled about 1980) that has since became an American citizen and has his own successful roofing company about how communists confiscated guns post WWII. He said they told everyone to turn them in and offered rewards for information about anyone not in compliance. Those caught (and I’m assuming mere suspicion) were publicly executed along with their families. He said the weak point was wife’s and children as any resistance would result in their execution too.

            Communists don’t play.

            • The ones that didn’t comply , should have open fire when the jackboots showed up

              They should have known it wasn’t an invite to a picnic
              They were too afraid to act , shame is .. That’s probably how it’s going to go here

              The rare uprising from a select few will be Demonized and shown in a light to the sheeple that he was a bad guy because he had X number of guns and X number of rounds

              Than all the other wanna be patriots are probably going to turn in what they have or destroy it so it doesn’t implicate them
              Bad part is , they could have chosen the day and place of thier death , yet they only post poned it til they were eventually tortured to death painfully for a much longer period of time

              I believe this will get serious before it gets down right unbelievable
              Stand your ground now or than just dig your own dam hole

            • And here we are, Progressives and Communists in our own government and press are screaming for gun control and confiscation in the US.

        • I foresee banning all ammo. California is starting that with a 50 round per month limit.

        • obommie will decree that all firearms are to be turned in within a certain period, probably within 3 months, or the owner will be branded a felon subject to death.

          before obommie comes to your door, start it elsewhere, games on.

          f ’em

      20. Old NRA bumper sticker: “When guns are outlawed, only Outlaws will have guns”.

        Instead, of gun control, I say we deport all Muslims, outlaw Islam, close all Mosques. Because Islam as a dangerous political philosophy.

        • Another good bumper sticker..

          “If you pull me over, you better have more ammo than me!”

      21. We shall see how all the Pro Islamic Faith is received as further terrorist acts are performed across the country. How far will CAIR accept the retaliation upon the mosques that hide terrorist or promote terrorist teachings. Remember what Their Faith Teaches.
        By that time there will be plenty more refugee’s to fill the ranks of Jihad. If the so called moderate Mosques become infiltrated with Radicals. I am sure they will turn from within. It is a matter of time by the Numbers. Also the Trust is very thin between us.

        Do you believe the President or what your eyes see before you?

        • Has anyone here seen a picture of the wife? All I have seen is a blacked out version. Now why would that be?

          • Yeah I wondered that too. Maybe she’s related to Obola?

            • If she is that explains why she is so crazy!

      22. I cant stand to to even listen or look at that filthy sodomite…

        • agreed, every time he makes an announcement on the news, i change the channel or mute it. It makes me sick to even listen to him.

          • js

            I do the same thing.

      23. That’s why you should have all the popular calibers. Because
        those that would take them will be your resupply.

        If you aren’t ready now, very, very little time left.
        They can outlaw whatever they want. My give a shitter
        is broke. I will not obey any law or E.O. that is unconstitutional, period. Time to fuck or fight at that point.

        • Citizen you are a fine one. Wish we had more like you. Thank you for your service.

          • Slingshot, Citizen, and Mike, I suffered a setback with the burglary but I will make up for what I lost, one way or another. One of the guns that was stolen was a Ruger SR9C I had just bought the week before. I was in the process of going back to 9mm when the incident happened but I’m still making the changeover. Anything the African virus in the WH says about my rights falls on deaf ears. He can kiss my white ass. MOLON LABE

            • Brave, I can set you up with a bad assed system for security for about 300 bux. Maybe not legal in your area but sure as hell effective! All ya gotta do is ask….

              • Genius, I’ll consider that, but I need to see how things will shape up before I make such a move. I’m headed back to the BOL for the holidays but that could turn out to be more permanent if circumstances dictate it. And I WON’T be concerned about legality of the methods.

        • I believe in continuity of ammo. I have three handgun ammos, 9mm, 38 cal, and .380. All very common ammo and all readily available. None of the hard to get like 454 casall or 44 mag.

          • John, .44 mag, 30-06, 12 gauge, .45 ACP. You should have thousands of rounds of the stuff.

        • citizen:

          1st, for me, 12 gauge pump, 00 buck.

          2nd, 30-06 scoped deer rifle, 165 grain SPBT.

          3rd, 2-1911A1

          I agree, “Time to fuck or fight at that point.”

      24. Let’s see a show of hands – who voted for this boob?

        • My grandfather voted Republican his entire life. So I was SHOCKED to see that he voted Democrat after he died.

          • He will be voting in the next election too. Along with illegals criminals, and anyone who can make it to the voting booths, whether they are citizens or not! If there is an election, it will be the most corrupt in our nations history!

        • sixty million commies voted for him, twice.

      25. Hey, I’ve gotten mad at work for one reason or another. But then I went home and cooled off, talked the situation over with my husband, and got over it. I sure as hell didn’t load my gun and head back to work to shoot up the place. Get real, Mr. President. This is not ‘workplace violence’. These are people who hate Americans and everything the USA stands for.

        • The terrorist erased his digital footprint the DAY BEFORE the attack. Which means he erased his Facebook and Twitter and other digital accounts.

          So this was not a person who got pissed off and in the heat of the moment decided to shoot people. This was a planned attacked with premeditation.

          • Are you sure HE erased it? I was thinking the feds did it to cover up their involvement in the planning and execution.

      26. Ask your self what else happened in the world that day im thinking the whole thing was attention diversion fact. They had a senerio training going on at the same time that would give them the ability of damage control after the incident fact. The gov knew about them but allowed it to occur dont let a good crisis go to waist the 2 erased computer destroyed cell phones and rented a vehicle this was the trail you know the nsa monitored watched because of their past traveling history saudi and pakistan they were on the radar. Fact. Nothing else was on the news for 2 days so whats going on with turkey russia ect. The incident in comparison to a much larger issue like surbia and refugees and the world stage ww3 starting is nothing more than attention redirection to keep us distracted and calm and maintain financial stabilization a little longer then bam they announced that women will be used in combat and front line fighting. Much bigger picture to look at

        • Are you saying a possible false flag?
          The whole thing staged by the nwo, maybe?
          Well, the city was bankrupt from what we are told. Some people will do anything to save their ass from going bankrupt and losing their jobs and homes, so it is a possibility.

          Maybe the fourteen dead are considered “acceptable casualties”, for the greater cause. Kinda like 9/11.

        • Those active shooter training scenarios happen all the time. Remember that only 30 or so police officers attend the active shooting scenarios. There are THOUSANDS of police officers in the LA metropolitan area.

          I would expect an active shooter training scenario being done every day in the LA area. It would still take a couple of years of training every day to get all the officers trained.

      27. Ment to say syria not surbia

      28. Stupid smart phones

        • Yes, it was the smart phone……..

      29. It was not so much staged but allowed to occur

      30. Police fired 380 rounds to stop 2 people no wonder the gov ordered purchase over a billion rounds of ammo

        • Also dead men tell no tales loose lips sink ships

          • I thought loose lips were destined for the glory hole….

      31. Just like Jack Nicholas said YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH not really sure our gov is out to get us but more like treating us like kids to maintain calm and stability by attention redirection of whats really going on. Here watch cartoons or play this video game mommy and daddy are busy doing something that you dont need to worry about

        • nicholson, Godsoldier, but no matter you’re here with friends.

      32. Obummer will keep letting immigrants in not because he wants too but because his banker masters tell him what he must and must not do.

        Without immigrants being let in to stare the pot they would not have an excuse to come for your guns but you need more guns on the street, not just police officers so that they can be stopped during these terrorist attacks.

        Do not register your guns, do not buy insurance and keep a gun and ammo hidden under the floor boards just in case they take the guns they can find.

        The bankers want total control, your guns stand in there way.

        • 911- “Man with a gun”

          Time to stop that shit. Everyone should have a gun at all times, including guns in sight. Take ’em everywhere. Any one that turns you in, take care of ’em.

          Stop the commies, muslims and illegal invaders now.

      33. Cheap gas to adults is like candy to kids are you passified with your candy

      34. What happened to the 3rd shooter? Perhaps hanging out with the 2nd shooter from Sandy Hook?

        • The 3rd shooter made it safely back to Langley.

      35. They will use women and children To attack because Americans are compassionate for them so what better to use women and kids to attack. People need to smarten up really.

      36. If we follow Obamas reasoning, then Abraham Lincoln was assasinated because John Wilkes booth was offended abot the Emancipation Proclamation, and lack of taste in Theater..

      37. If we follow Obamas reasoning, then Ronald Reagan was NEARLY assassinated because his of success in Holyweird was offensive to John Hinckley, Jrs sense of jealousy. Jim Brady was an oops as he wasn’t the target.

      38. I sure the “Yes we can/Yes we have no bananas” chanters will think it was workplace violence…. or a Martian invasion. Whatever the leftist media tells them to think

      39. Islam, the religion of pieces. HUMAN pieces, that is

      40. yep, them Muslims say we make it so easy to find the Christians this time of year

        wasnt this a Christmas party they shot up?

        you picking up what im saying? or do I have to yell?

        fill your stockings with Magazines and Ammo

      41. yep, them Muslims say we make it so easy to find the Christians this time of year

        wasnt this a Christmas party they shot up?

        you picking up what im saying? or do I have to yell?

        fill your stockings with Magazines and Ammo

        • EOTS

          Imagine the outcry and sympathy doled out on behalf of the shitskins if a white dude took out fourteen Muslims celebrating at an Eid feast.

          The PC bias fuckin’ stinks.

          • Right on !

            And some of the MSM isn’t following along wil Obummers narrative
            Just read how the female of the shooters had ISIS ties
            This isn’t work place violence
            Every patriot in this county better be packing heat

      42. Lies, Lies and more lies.

        They sent the FBI and CAIR in for damage control.

        Be prepared Americans! This is only getting started.

      43. … wonder if Obungler will get Hilary blame it on some obscure video by some unknown Egyptian on Youtube, like the Benghazi scam…

      44. No surprise here.

        Washington Post: Gun Violence Declining, Except in Gun-Free Zones


        • Another great post KYM – passed on to all my contacts.

          Again, the battle is one of the pen. If we **communicate and educate** we win. If we don’t we, lose, no matter how much target practice you guys do. I’m not disparaging the 2nd Amendment at all, just stating reality.

          We absolutely must find some creative, intelligent way to get through to the dumbed down masses. Reminds me of Mission Impossible: “You’re job, Jim, should you CHOOSE to accept it, is to…”

          Well, we have our job in front of us: Get out there and educate, write, communicate, get creative. Why should the fascists that support Alinsky have all the fun?

          • that’ll really work, TEST. Write a letter, like I’m doing now. Send it to the newspaper, be creative.


            • Yes, then go buy F-16 and take out the country. Or whine. Or get violent like your buddies at ISIS. Or complain and do nothing.

              It is people like you that advocated surrendering to Hitler.

              Apparently you are not creative enough to think of anything other than surrendering, or writing a newspaper. It is people like you that are destroying this country with your defeatism and narrow mindedness.

      45. The news is saying the wife pledged allegiance to the leader of ISIS. What more do you need for proof.
        Now they are still downplaying and saying it is self radicalization. Who gives a fuck. Its Terrorism You Dumb Shits

      46. “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.”

        —Cesare Beccaria, 1738 – 1794) Italian criminologist, jurist, philosopher, politician, widely considered as the most talented jurist and one of the greatest thinkers of the Age of Enlightenment.

      47. Now do you see why I call him Obullshit!

        I want all of you to carry to protect yourself. things are going to get hotter in the next few weeks. PLEASE folk watch your “6”


        • Will do, thanks! 🙂

        • Packing 2 Springfield 45’s every day

          would love to find a way to pack my AR , but i cant always be near my truck for security of the AR

            • Hey thanks for that
              I’ll check into it

          • 12 gauge shotgun’s better than a .223, no matter the make of the poodle popper.

            i like your 2 Springfield’s though. For your pickup build you a strongbox to keep your shotgun and good scoped deer rifle.

            you can weld, can’t you?

            of course the commies, muslims and illegal invaders, gang’s, etc will just steal your truck if they think it’s valuable. doesn’t take long to strip it.

        • I posted earlier, early this morning.
          Now my head is hanging, early in morning.
          Can’t get get my 2 cents posted you see,
          So I guess I’ll just go and pee…
          Makes better use of my time than this u cee.

        • Obullshite says it all in one word!

      48. As notes, I am deeply committed to non-violence. But find NO contradiction with that and the principle of self-defense, which even Blackstone strongly affirmed, and also the 2nd Amendment as it is interpreted by people like Scalia, etc. This being said, some quotes for your consideration from people much smarter than me:

        “Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer’s hands.)
        – Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 4 BC – 65 AD

        “Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with arms”
        – James Madison, considered the father of the US Constitution
        “[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them.”
        – Zacharia Johnson, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788
        “During World War II, six million Swiss had guns and six million Jews did not.”
        – Author unknown
        “…sort of like the people who repeat foolish slogans like “guns kill” – as though guns sprout little feet when no one is looking and run around shooting people all by themselves.”
        – Doug Casey, financial columnist
        “If you don’t have to give up your car because others drive drunk with theirs, then why do you have to give up your gun because others commit crimes with theirs?”
        – Anonymous internet wag
        “When a crime is committed, does the gun go to jail?”
        – From BrotherJohn.com
        “Let’s stop playing games. The problem is people, not guns. Our society suffers from a deficiency of personal responsibility – not from an excess of personal freedom.”
        – Star Parker, African American writer and commentator
        “The horrifying truth is this: we live now in a culture that not only does not respect life, but discards it like trash — not only at the beginning of life, but also at the end, and every place in between. What has happened to us?”
        – Catholic Deacon Greg Kandra
        “…we’re also going to make it clear that when a pig gets iced that’s a good thing, and that everyone who considers himself a revolutionary should be armed, should own a gun, should have a gun in his house.”
        – Bill Ayers, leftist activist and confidant of gun control happy Barack Obama, in A Strategy
        To Win, appearing in New Left Notes, September 12, 1969. Note: This quote is included
        both show the hypocrisy of today’s anti-gun left, as well as expose them as the
        purveyors of violence the left has always been. This in no wise implies support of Ayers,
        and in fact this paper is utterly against what Ayers articulates here.
        “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.'”
        | – HL Mencken
        “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”
        – Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

        “Blaming Newtown on guns is like blaming Chappaquiddick on the Oldsmobile.”
        – Ben Crystal, Personal Liberty News
        “An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”
        – Robert A. Heinlein

        “Eliminate guns and they go to bombs, eliminate bombs and they move to poison or something else. Bad people are just bad people.”
        – “David,” otherwise anonymous internet poster.

        “The trigger is in the head, not the gun.”
        – Michael Howell

      49. Once again Americans brought gadgets to a gun fight. When is someone going to tweet ‘We are shooting back!’? America has enough gun owners. What America really needs are more ARMED CITIZENS.

        • This is why, Diane, former gun control advocate turned 2nd Amendment supporter Dr. John Lott wrote More Guns, Less Crime. It is also why I published – for free – a 100 page document that is chock full of facts, links, etc. supporting the 2nd Amendment at https://www.scribd.com/doc/134074309/Gun-Control-Fact-and-Fantasy-April-1

          I did this as a labour of love – and truth and freedom. I don’t ask any money, no acclaim (heck, I used a nom de plume, so no one even knows who wrote it, other than the NSA!). Please copy/paste from this as you wish. As noted, the battle is one of **information and education**. Lose THAT war and we lose everything, no matter how armed people are. We need to use our wit, our intelligence, our creativity, our stick-to-it-iveness. I even heard of one person who writes messages on his 20/5/10 dollar bills. Not that I would ever advocate violating any of the 29,000 pages of laws on the Federal Register, but just sayin’, you know? My point is, get creative! I do all kinds of fun things. Last week I took some money I normally contribute (I tithe) and bought a LOT of books that most of you would agree with here, to donate to local libraries and colleges. They LOVE free stuff, and hardbacks. A while back I donate a book by Michelle Malkin on the utter fraudulence of the Obungler campaign. I wondered if it would not be shelved, so I called to see if it was available – about the time it was shelved, there were 13 holds on it already!!!

          Use you minds, my friends. Write! Communicate! Get creative like donating books! Talk to family and friends, co-workers where possible. Do that and we win. Chicken out of doing that, or excuse yourself for not doing that, and we lose. Need *details* to communicate? You have a FREE paper on gun control right there listed above. Or just google sentences with the main words in them – often a gold mine.

        • More Sheep Dogs fer sure !

        • armed citizens, Diane D, armed at all times. You do, don’t you? I shall look forward to your tweet, should the occasion arise.

          carry spare ammo, but I’m sure you know that and exercise your 9th Amendment right to self defense.

      50. They wear a warning(the females do) .. but are we paying enough attention?

        Nizaam Ali, who worshipped with Farook at a San Bernardino mosque, said he had met Malik on a few occasions, but she wore a head scarf that obscured her face.

        “If you asked me how she looked, I couldn’t tell you,” Ali said.

      51. Man Mac

        I am getting sick & tired of our “President’s” double standards with this shit.

        Muslims do it – it’s nothing, just workplace violence

        A christian does it – and it’s Christians Committing Acts of Terror!



      52. Obama is completely out of his comfort zone, some presidential leadership is required here and he is totally unable to step up to the plate. So his response is to hide his head in the sand and revert to his political fetal position, denial of the truth and calling for gun control.

      53. So the bitch terrorist took an oath to ISIS, BFD-many of us took an Oath to protect the Constitution against all enemies, even bitch Muslim whores!

        AR-15’s for every Patriot!

      54. YOu deleted my post reference the John F Kennedy Assassination…and Obamas logic… WHY?

        If we follow Obamas reasoning, then John F Kennedy was assassinated because Lee Harvey Oswald was offended about his using an Executiver Order 11110 to bypass the Federal Reserve to mint Silver Notes, and his transgression with Marilyn Monroe..

      55. We have a new “Rahm” in California. California Attorney General Loretta Lynch is quoted as saying:

        “We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change.”

        She’s calling the shooting a “wonderful opportunity.” I guess she would hate to let it “go to waste.”

        • maybe she shoulda been there …. and been one of the many that didnt walk out of it

      56. How does anyone on this board or most people in America actually know what really happened here?


        Teevee is basically ALL propaganda to form public opinion the way the bosses wish it to be formed.

        Now, I don’t know for sure what REALLY went down here either. The .gov lies and manipulates all the time so I take what is said on teevee with a grain of salt. You should too.

        NEVER trust anyone who represents the government. They have all been proven to be liars when it serves their purpose. The purpose here seems to be to gin up moar war and to violate more liberty. How much of this “action” was manipulated? You can bet your bottom dollar there is manipulation and half truths here if not outright lying.


        “Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is a double edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind, and when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry.

        Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

        How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.”

        ——————Gaius Julius Caesar——————–

        Those who run the show are psycopaths. They don’t care about you. They only care about money and power. They influence others to do their bidding with money and lies and coercion. They fill their heads with untruth and send them to shed their blood. They convince costumed clowns that they are heroes and men in black dresses say it is true.

        I’m glad I have no firearms to give should they come calling. Sold them all privately. And if I had any, I certainly wouldn’t have a paper trail or be bragging about them on some random website where all info is aggregated by the bosses for later use.

        Sure, you can resist…you can die, too. Besides, I hear a lot of talk about resisting but when push came to shove with Bundy, all the talk of rebellion on here was only talk.

        I only know of one poster who actually backed his words up with action…maddog. The rest just talked.

        • …who bangs the drums of war…?


      57. JRS

        You are absolutely right.

        When push comes to shove there will not ONE POSTER here to stand up against the Tyranny. Including Myself.

        I agree on Maddog. Now that little skinny fucker on the bridge pointing his weapon at the Marshalls. Why didn’t have the balls to squeeze the trigger and get it all going. That could have got plenty of people killed. Do you think I am going to pack my shit up and travel 1800 miles down range and have a stupid fucker decide if I am going to war by pointing his gun at police.

      58. Well it’s official the attack was terrorist Islamic. No way were these people on their radar, we are
        On our own. The officials that arrived so quickly were in no way able to defend for those that
        Got gunned down! We as a people need to have the families of known terrorist that attack in
        This country deported as a deterrent to future events immediately. No way, should Americans
        Shoulder their family after such bloodbath ,guilty or not. Saw something, immediately report it if it feels in your gut something’s wrong. Close the borders,hold those in charge accountable!
        Having a group event? Every American is going to need to request
        Security at public events! It’s a new day,time to adapt, protect, lives are on the line………

        • we have always been on our own, anon.

          Such power has never been seen by any other countries people. This is as it should be. we have the right to keep and bear arms and under the 9th and 10th Amendments all rights and powers not enumerated in the Constitution are reserved to the People.

          we are the unorganized militia with the power to execute the laws of the land, (that is, Constitutional laws) prevent insurrection and repel invasions.

          and to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

      59. you guys know how I like Lists ..

        Muslims fear being demonized? Gee, where’d they get an idea like that?

        The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
        The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
        The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
        The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
        The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
        The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
        The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
        The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
        The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
        The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
        The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
        The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
        The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
        The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
        The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
        The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
        The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
        The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
        The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
        The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
        The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
        The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
        The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
        The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
        The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims’

        etc… need I say more?

        • It was all workplace violence…

        • @enemy of the state…..With the exception of one or two events, EVERY single event you named was a ruse perpetrated by “insiders handling” the so called moozlems. They were all psyops………..do some studying fella………yawn

        • Don’t you know those were all false flag phony attacks that didn’t happen but were instigated by Mossad at the behest of Zionist bankers, performed by crisis actors?

          Or so some other deniers of reality would have us believe.

        • According to our fearful leader, all a mere coincidence. Nothing more.

      60. Please, please try to understand dear Americans, that the 2nd Amendment grants you nothing!!! NOTHING!!! It is a heavy weight around the neck of government that says that this government and all future governments will have NO say in the ownership and possession of weapons by the Freeborn American as a protection against tyranny!!! Can you see how important this 2nd amendment was? Nothing in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights meant a damn thing without this restriction of government and at no time in history has it been more important than at the present time!! I hope that all freeborn Americans, and we know who they are, will tell this phony administration and the United Nations both to go straight to hell, from whence they both came!!!

      61. I posted earlier, early this morning.
        Now my head is hanging, early in morning.
        Can’t get get my 2 cents posted you see,
        So I guess I’ll just go and pee…
        Makes better use of my time than this u cee.

        • mine got posted within minutes.

      62. Ya’ll drinkin’ that kool aid again…………..its fake, the people were patsy’s and all the propaganda is priming your feeble minds for war to destroy yourselves. Its not the bottom of the pyramid, its the top that controls it all. Gotta be them evil moozlems……..yeah right….silly people.

        ..Ya’ll been snookered……….yawn.

        • This is what happens when you drink your bong water.

        • Yawn, you’ve been on the crackpipe way too long. Go away. YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

      63. I’ve been reading all these comments for about a half hour now… Everyone is the expert in this s room, geez oh Pete’s people let them get through the investigation !
        Was anyone actually there? If you were there then please go ahead and tell us your story, and be prepared to have it backed up. This is part of the problem – bunch of people speculating pissing on each other, way to go room.

      64. I used to like the President but he seems to have become very disoriented as his narrative no longer matches reality. ISIS are not ‘contained’: they are off the leash. In Paris, he seemed listless and insensitive. His statements, which go long lengths to avoid saying the obvious and evidential: this is Islamic terrorism and it is a big problem: show a man clearly either not interested or pursuing another agenda.

        It is beyond irresponsible to not prepare the civilian population for war when you are at war. This is due the biggest civil lawsuit in history (that it is not happening tells you how far most lawyers have fallen). We need to start suing for large sums (many millions) all government officials who are not taking action to defend the population. And we need to start putting in jail all government officials who enable or let in terrorists and their enablers. It is now time; the line has been crossed.

        We have a hijacked government that no longer has legitimacy.

        • start with tar and feathers, attorneys.

      65. Barack Hussein Obama is such an embarrassment. Constantly, it’s like watching a boy do a man’s job. He is so far over his head, it pathetic. He will not mention the fact that the guy and the female killers in San Bernardino were Muslim. Or that the female, while she was in the process of slaughtering her victims, was praising the leader of ISIS. Just another case of him once again protecting a fellow brother—and sister. How much longer before this pant load is evicted from the WH?

      66. Mac, great article. I know this is serious business, and I know everyone here knows what needs to be done. However, I have to say this:If your wife has ever said, “Honey, does this Burqa cover my AK47?”…you might be a muslim. If you have bomb making materials in your kitchen sink….you might be a muslim. If you refuse to watch Bugs Bunny because Porky Pig makes a cameo appearance…you might be a muslim.If you love music that sounds like a baritone squirrel explaining what it feels like to be constipated…you might be a muslim. If you are ready to kill someone over a cartoon image….you might be a muslim.

      67. If you are not packing when attacked like this you are screwed, help is minutes away and by the time it arrives, well,lets just say they are basically the mop up crew………….

      68. Barry is one of the biggest frauds to have ever been perpetrated on the American people, next to the federal reserve bank and 911.

      69. That’s a good explanation, doesn’t everyone have a garage full of pipe bombs and ammo just in case you get mad at co-workers? I don’t see anything strange about it.

      70. That’s a good explanation, doesn’t everyone have a garage full of pipe bombs and ammo just in case you get mad at co-workers? I don’t see anything strange about it.

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