Obama Moves To Authorize Domestic Drone Strikes: “The Rules Outside Of The United States Are Going To Be Different Than The Rules Inside Of The United States”

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    The Department of Homeland Security recently advanced a plan to deploy “public safety” drones in the skies over America, an action Congress authorized last year and called for the deployment of 30,000 drone surveillance vehicles by 2020.

    While DHS head Janet Napolitano says the primary mission for domestic drones is for situational awareness in “large public safety [matters] or disasters”, President Obama may have a different idea for how best to implement this next generation of frightening surveillance technology.

    Well known for his obsession with remote drone attacks, reportedly going so far as to personally sit in on unmanned aerial vehicle missions, the President was recently asked about concerns from American citizens about the possibility of extra-judicial military drone strikes within the borders of the United States.

    Obama has not only failed to deny that he has such plans, but makes it clear that his administration is working closely with Congress to develop a legal framework that will allow the Chief Executive and his subordinates the leeway to initiate strikes right here at home.

    First of all… there’s never been a drone used on an American citizen, on American soil.

    We respect and have a whole bunch of safeguards in terms of how we conduct counter-terrorism operations outside of the United States. The rules outside of the United States are going to be different than the rules inside of the United States.

    I am the head of the Executive branch and what we’ve done so far is to try to work with Congress on oversight issues.

    Part of what I’m going to have to work with Congress on is to make sure that whatever it is we’re providing Congress, that we have mechanisms to also make sure that the public understands what’s going on, what the constraints are, what the legal parameters are.

    That’s something that I take very seriously.

    I am not somebody who believes that the President has the authority to do whatever he wants or whatever she wants, whenever they want,  just under the guise of  counter-terrorism.

    There have to be checks and balances on it.

    One can only conclude that military and law enforcement drone strikes will soon be business as usual, and likely the preferred method for dealing with, as the Patriot Act outlines, those who “intimidate or coerce the civilian population” or attempt to “influence government policy” – pretty much anyone who disagrees with what the government is doing.

    As Chris Carrington rightly points out about pre-emptive government prosecution, under the National Defense Authorization Act “individuals who have committed no crime can be arrested and incarcerated at the will of the government without proven cause.” Will this new legal framework now expand on Patriot Act and NDAA to allow for a militarized government response to potential threats?

    For those who would call for such extreme action as firing a military grade remote Hellfire missile at a domestic target, as the media recently suggested we should do during the hunt for Chris Dorner, consider that Global Research recently reported that over 40% of drone casualties are innocents – often children.

    But such collateral damage would never happen in America, right? The NYPD, for example, would never randomly open fire in the middle of a busy street and shoot civilians. Likewise, the LAPD would never overreact and send a barrage of bullets at two innocent newspaper carriers who happen to be in a vehicle matching the description of what a suspect may be driving.

    With drones, such incidents would be reduced or all but eliminated right? This legal framework being developed by President Obama’s administration with the help of Congress would ensure that no innocents will be killed, right? Law enforcement and military would never target criminals or terrorists if it would endanger innocent Americans who might be in their direct vicinity, right?

    And never would they be used to target American citizens unless actionable intelligence of an impending threat was real and confirmed by, as President Obama notes, a “whole bunch of safeguards.”

    To paraphrase President Obama, Diane Feinstein and the many Congressional representatives who support a safer America, it’s time we start disarming those who have access to these weapons of mass destruction. These military style assault weapons have no use in hunting or sporting, and have no business being on the streets of America.

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      1. I have no word of encouragement or action step to offer.

        • I do, they are in high speed and in panic mode. The receipt for making mistakes. Don’t panic with them and thank God we don’t think like them.

          Any more doubts that we are in the battle of our lives? Still think your gold will not be confiscated? They are a coming.

          • And as most of us boil with anger, I am reminded that this is what tptb want our state of mind to be in: anger mode.

            • turn your anger into HATE. and then go forth and sow that seed into the enemy.

              • I think there are probably millions already who hate the federal government. Every time I look up at the beautiful blue sky and see it streaked with chemtrails, I curse the bastards that fly them, the bastards that build them and the bastards that command them.

                Damn them all to hell.

                • Outa sight outa mind. How do you hide from a Predator, become the Hunter. Learn to defeat thermal, its not rocket science.

              • I like it!

              • what good will being emotional do? instead actually take ACTION to thwart all of this. No, typing and whining on forums doesnt count.

            • being in “anger mode” is one thing—blindly acting out on it is another.

              • wow 6 pakk dude, you had your reply typed in before i had even pressed ‘submit’. Who are you?

            • They obviously dont care what we think or feel. All that matters is how we ACT. What we DO to resist this latest incursion against us. My bet is it will be what we usually do- NOTHING. They are very aware of that too, and so are free to do to us what they will. Look for domestic terror legislation to justify domestic drone kills soon.

              Lakota, ND had a farmer hunted down by drones re: a dispute over cows jumping fences and getting into adjacent pastures. This historic case should have been a MAJOR BELLWEATHER vis a vis drones, and even the “patriots” ignored the precedent-setting event, and the farmer left to fend for himself.

          • He will do that right after he approves the KXL Pipeline.

            • I can’t stand pelosi…she is in my top 10.

              • Roger that Kindle

                • Ditto that Kindle. I have no idea how this botoxed beyotch stays in office. Oh wait. San Francisco. Never mind.

              • Hey Kindle,
                This might just make you love her that much less! The other day a reporter ask her if she would take a Congressional pay cut, her reply ” I think we should respect the work that we do”, “I think it is necessary for us to have the dignity of the job we have rewarded”.
                All those pore Senators struggling with the $174,000 a year, maybe not all of them making that, but those that have been around for sometime are. Plus health care. Not to mention when they retire from congress, they make over $15,000 a month.
                What a hypocritcal rat!!!!!
                The wicked laugh while the pleeps suffer.

                Also, the savior of America says he is not above congress. Ha!!!!!!!! the usurper and thief undermines congress and the Constitution every chance he gets.

                B Aware, B Awake, B Alive
                FREEDOM

                • Soapdish,
                  I did see that….who gets to decide what they are worth? They do…over inflated egos. Didn’t she make millions on insider trading?

                  • Kindle,
                    Yes, plus they just gave themselves another pay increase. Pure BS at it’s utmost finest.
                    Also, her husband already is a wealthy real estate developer.
                    It’s such a disgrace having her face plastered for all to see. Where’s the vomit bucket?

                    B Aware, B Awake, B Alive
                    FREEDOM

                  • Soapdish;
                    Should’nt that be–plaster face for all to see….yuk yuk

                  • On that note for insider trading, yes she did. Apparently elected officials are exempt. law makers have exempted themselves from the very laws that govern every other citizen.

                    I only ponder what will be the defining moment when all hell breaks loose?

                    B Aware, B Awake, B Alive
                    FREEDOM

                • Who cares what they think they are worth. They reach into our pockets and steal what they think they are worth.
                  And Now they say we will decide who to kill by remote control.. Have they lost their f–king mind. I think they have..

                  When does it end? Maybe while you have a sunday BBQ? Or while your in the garden tring to put food on the table because you won’t take a dime from them?

                  Am I to make the drone strike hit list for typing the post?

                  I say Hell No Come And Take it You M— F–er
                  Not One More Inch Say I Move…..

                  DPS

                  • Pelosi is one of those people who is a great investment–if you can buy them for what they’re worth and sell them for what they THINK they’re worth.

                • Pelousy and her husband are worth over a hundred million dollars as is Fineswine and her husband. Typical leftists that attack the non connected high earners who do it on their own while exempting themselves from all the laws they pass.

              • Hey Kindle,
                We have to make sure…THEY… pull the trigger first…
                Then WE… squeeeeeze…make every shot count…

                • yep, yep…I will be patient…I can still run the drills through my head can’t I?

                  • yep

                • Sorry Kindle,
                  that was meant for KY Mom, and you too…hell, everybody 😉

                • Jerry,

                  They will pull the trigger first.. I will just be from 4000 miles away..

                  DPS

                  • Because their chicken shit

              • I bet she was hot 20 years ago.

              • who votes her into office? that is where you need look…

            • You’ll have to wait for the drone to strike your home to know what it’s carrying. Just like the Healthcare bill. Please tell me you didn’t already know that.

            • KY Mom,

              The phrase “The inmates are running the asylum”, just doesn’t quite say it, does it?

              Clearly we are witnessing the green shoots of a slow simmering despotism that has been festering for decades and is now bearing it’s godforsaken fruit upon the American people and the world.

              When the SHTF and drones start executing Americans on U.S. soil who haven’t been charged with a crime and found guilty in a court of law, NO ONE can claim ignorance for not seeing it coming. Ignorance and apathy will be the order of the day.

              As the saying goes, “It’s not paranoia, if they’re really out to get you.”

              • YH,

                Well said! I agree.

          • 2nd Amendment

            A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

            Quoting the anointed one, “These military style assault weapons have no use in hunting or sporting, and have no business being on the streets of America”.

            Hunting and sporting? Hey freedom destroyer in chief, our right to bear arms has nothing to do with that, it has to do with the right to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. A government that is determined to strip us of our God given right to defend ourselves against them when they encroach on our freedom, with the weapon of our choice.

            He spits on the constitution every time he opens his mouth and he gets away with it. He injects words that are nowhere to be found in the constitution and he leaves words out that are there when he quotes from the constitution. He is evil and he has many followers who will never call him out on anything. They praise him when they know he is lyeing and they bow to him as though he were king. So many have sold their souls to the devil.

            • I wish these assholes would just make their move already,
              Im tired of all these gun owners who look at the floor when you talk about the second amendment and militias and duty to the constitution, i just hope there are more folks willing to stand up than be chicken shit about this, the chickens can go quietly to the FEMA camp, and see just how safe that feels,

              • You got one right here! and go ahead and track this DHS, you seem better at tracking where we are and the guns that we got then tracking illegals comming into this country you terds! Hey Obama the day you strike and use a missle on a American citzen that will be the day hell breaks lose like you can’t imagine in America. Most people don’t believe it or refuse to believe it or think this is just the right trying to scare people. That day will be the biggest reality check and mobs and mobs of people will be looking for these tyrannical leaders and it will get ugly. I wonder how the left side of the media is going to cover up this one. Are they going to say this was the GOP’s idea or they supported this activity. lol It’s nuts.

                • Right on Clint, what really makes me shake my head is when the local shooters who are trying to sway the legislators and our people on capitol hill, they keep saying write your reps and “respectfully” let them know your view on these bills that are flying all over the place,
                  In what alternate universe do I have to show respect to someone who clearly does not ever show an ounce of respect for me, nor the constitution witch they swore an oath to uphold and protect, nor the hundreds of thousands of men and women who have paid the ultimate price to protect these things? Why? Respect is earned, someone who is doing their best to remove or limit or place conditions on my rights has earned a kick in the ass and to be drawn and quartered like a deer, these people are due 0 respect,
                  I wrote respectful letters and kept my cool and was polite and the few reps who did respond sent me a party line form letter spouting the same save the children and you will still have a gun for hunting crap that you have heard from every mealy mouthed democrat who is blowing bubbles up obamas ass.
                  I called one of our local reps who didnt respond to see if i could get an answer and was told that the rep is busy and cant adress everyones issues!
                  FUCK THESE PRICKS
                  Go ahead and pass your laws so you can see what SHTF tastes like, i dont care if i die, but i will damn sure die a patriot.

                  • Kula…once again, we are staying…they are going.

                    Their passport of freedom is about to be revoked.

                    Our will be renewed.

              • It’s like being a rubber ball—it sits quietly and still, until someone swats at it…then it bounces back HARD.

              • let it begin with thee.

          • It’s a Bird….It’s a Plane…. It’s Super Drone….!!

            • down in my neck of the vwoods we have a little surprise for their drones

        • ” Unitended Conseqeunces”

          • I’m more worried about a plan for the intended consequences. We need to remember that the faster the problem in DC is solved, the fewer the casualties in the rest of the country.

            • The rest of the country will have a fair share of casualties too. We’re all pretty sure there will be a lot of redecorated lightpoles in Washington but what about the newspaper editors in cities and towns all across the nation? What do we do with all the college professors and high school teachers that have made their life’s work the poisoning of young minds? Do we just wag our fingers at them and tell them to change their ways or do we show them the real cost of their efforts?
              Make no mistake, most federal politicians definitely need to be “santioned” (as in “The Eiger Sanction”) but there is a host of enablers who will find someone else to make our lives miserable.
              As I’ve said elsewhere, our next revolution won’t look as much like our first one as it will resemble the French version. I’m glad I’ll be gone.

          • Excellent! Highly recommended reading.

        • One only needs to reflect back in American history to see example after example of Government abuse against humanity:

          Murders:
          Wounded Knee Massacre
          Waco

          Intentional human experimentation:
          Tuskeegee Syphillis Study
          Pellagra Incident
          Project Paperclip
          MKUltra

          Relocation, encampment:
          Trail of Tears
          Japan Relocation in TX, CA, etc, (WW2)

          Actions ALWAYS speak louder than words, especially slippery lies from the Tyrant on Pennsylvania Avenue.

          Lock n load.

          • Try reading some history, Wounded Knee wasn’t a massacre, The Indians just tried to have a fight with someone that had modern artillery using a few rifles, and lost badly. Sand Creek was murder and massacre.

            • maybe true, but the US government is guilty of Genocide( so I think that trumps massacre wouldnt you say?)..namely the original land inhabitants of this contenent..the American Indian..or should i say 1st Nation.

              how many native americans are still alive? how are they being treated?..how were they treated?

              you know and I know if the US government could have killed them all, they would have ..now we are living in the same hell as they were, yet they(the indians) were awake to the US gov adgenda(somewhat)..today too many are dead ass asleep about the adgenda they will soon meet head on.

              • Government murder is called democide. Killed a quarter billion or more last century if you don’t include abortions and trade sanctions that lead directly to millions more dead. That number is slated to be blown away given the intent of a 90% depopulation worldwide.

                Now the democide is aimed at white inhabitants of the land. The elites want to be the last remaining whites on the planet, and all of color will be seen as inferior slaves.

                They live in a fantasy world that can not be allowed to become reality.

                • Rummel created the term as an extended concept to include forms of government murder that are not covered by the term genocide

                  so we can call it both.

                • Who in the fuck red thumbed this comment?

                  Look at what is going on without racial bias.

                  The enemy is those who believe in the US Constitution, especially the 2nd Amendment.

                  Those who believe in self reliance.

                  Those who can take care of themselves.

                  That pretty much narrows it down.

                  Not one more inch.

              • In actual fact,which very few people use, most of the Indians were killed off by smallpox and other European germs. Hunger, civilians, and the sanitation of the settlers also killed more than the Gov. The US Cavalry actually killed very few Indians. These opinions are about the same as the feelings that the Indians killed a lot of Whites, Not true. I wish I could remember the quote but it goes like this: The most dangerous thing in the west was the water. It killed tens of thousands (Cholera) and the second most dangerous was the frying pan, never washed it was far more dangerous than Indians.
                On the other hand; what would you have done with a nomadic culture that lived off 40,000,000 wild roaming buffalo? The Indians had to go. Tough.

                • Paranoid, you forgot that the Federal Government contaminated many wool blankets with Smallpox intentionally. Humane? Nevermind, your prejudice is screaming loudly.

                • @paranoid
                  there are many trains of thought on what happened to the 1st nations people but i would at least hope that we could all agree that it was wrong…the simple fact is the usa gov’t wanted all the land, no matter who stood in the way and at any cost…is this really any different than what is going to happen to us down the road? total control of the people at any cost…man, woman or child it will make no difference, after all it’s just something that is less than human standing in the way of what the elites want…the sad thing about everything going on is all ya have to do is read the comments on any site concerning any subject and anyone can surmise that there is no longer right or wrong, only 50 shades of grey. if we lose this battle it will be simply because we couldn’t agree that there was a right or wrong…pray for the woman and children.

                  • Oldman,
                    One of the things that come to my mind is way back then there was no government, constitution and laws like today. I consider it a greater offense in todays time because we do have a constitution and laws.

                    I don’t know if it makes much difference, probably not to the original natives of America, but something is different about the 2 scenarioes.

                  • @ kindle
                    i agree that it is a greater offense today, we all should know better by now, however most of the killing of the 1st nations people was after the civil war when the gov’t was still geared up and wanted to put an end to the “indian problem” and get them all onto the land that was worthless where they would be secure and safe…
                    reservations, the original fema camp, get use to it.

              • The pilgrims were illegal immigrants.

                • So? If it bothers you so much either leave or do us all a favor and kill yourself. It was four hundred years ago half wit. We should feel guilty about it?

                  • 400 yrs later they’re still doing it today. but if crime’s aimed at ‘them’- who cares right? you piece of crap.

                    cant wait till karma hits you in the face like a boomerang, with you and yours in the firing line. bring it on!!

              • vrf your right they took us American Indians from over 100 million to under 100 thousand. We make up only 1.4% of this nation. Imagine if those trying to screw us these days did the same thing took us from 100% of the population to just 1.4%.

            • 200 WOMEN and CHILDREN dead! But you say its not a massacre?! Really, your comments would make Hitler proud!

            • Paranoid, it was a massacre. To date, many have even tried to legally rescind the Medals of Honor that went to soldiers saying they were awarded with no show of honor, only the end result of brutal murder from the massacre. I suggest you bone up on that history there, Paranoid…

              Creepy you have that logic, anyway, Paranoid. If you apply your thinking to contemporary times and our current issues with drones, excessive gun and ammo purchases, with your line of thinking, a Government assault with high-power “modern artillery” wouldn’t be a massacre either.

            • Studyed this last night, the indians had surrended almost all their guns before a soldier fired a shot and killed another soldier and then they killed eveything in sight. Afterwords the paraided their kill with the dead indians body parts hanging fromm their hats.. Now think about a killer that has a drone??????????

              DPS

          • Don’t forget slavery and the Salem witch trials…

            • Why don’t you fucking children grow up. The world and people are not perfect and have and always will do nasty things.

              • When govt kicks you in the face? We’ll laugh and quote your words back to you, like grownups do.

          • Tuskeegee Syphillis Study…
            that one made me ill…eeeerrrrr…
            how dare they!

          • I had heard of a few of those. I decided to search for a few that I had not (e.g. the Pellegra Incident). I found this post on Wikipedia.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

            I feel sick after reading that. I am sure that those types of experiments are still going on we just don’t know about them because they’ve gotten better at covering their tracks. Lord, have mercy on us all.

        • “””As Chris Carrington rightly points out about pre-emptive government prosecution, under the National Defense Authorization Act “individuals who have committed no crime can be arrested and incarcerated at the will of the government without proven cause.” “””

          I have an idea on how to stop all of this madness.

          The NDAA (and other acts) are blatant and self evident acts of Treason (declaring war against, or aiding the enemies of) against the people of the United States of America.

          According to the Law (the Constitution), a charge of treason requires two witnesses. Both of which must be People. The signature on the NDAA makes the crimes self evident. But where are the People to enforce the Law? There are millions of witnesses and all we need is two.

          What I have been contemplating is a NATIONAL campaign to recruit three people from each county to go to the local Sheriff, all on a preset day and time, and swear out an affidavit on the Charge of Treason against Obama and ALL other signers of the NDAA.

          Imagine, if you will, the day after when, should Hobama step foot outside of DC, into ANY county in ANY state of the union, the Sheriff will be obligated to place him under arrest for the crime of Treason or be guilty himself. Obama would be trapped in DC along with all of the other scum that signs these types of bills.

          Will this idea fly? I can build a web site, Mac can help it go viral, and your children can celebrate the new holiday set in remembrance of when a few patriots rose up to put a dead stop to the tyranny that is infecting the land by standing up and enforcing the Law in every county in the country.

          If the idea is worth pursuing, give this post a thumbs up and I will build a web site to provide more information and outline the strategy. Maybe put up some sample documents that can be used and presented to each Sheriff.

          I think that way more of the Sheriff’s understand their duty is to the PEOPLE, none of which has given them a Lawful reason to act. An affidavit does not give the Sheriff an option to act. It gives them a duty, one I suspect that many would accept.

          Just a thought. Or we can all sit back and do nothing….

          • The universe is on your side.

          • Get on it

            thier own acts are enforceable by their own policies, in other words, they are doing to us, what is out lawed in our own country by our constitution..by in means makes these laws illegal and should be forced to address them with warrents for anyone who signs this, or anyone who has already signed NDAA.

            than maybe we should treat them, like they are planing on treating us…no trials..

            • “outlawed”

          • I will swear out one, my Sheriff will be happy to enforce this should Obummer set foot here. Count me in…….

          • Some sheriffs may just be encouraged by the back-bone of the people they serve and protect. I believe it might take a few off hand as they rose to the position as a slacker in various forms of whatever self-promoting ego they have, but will be duly replace post-haste.

            After the last fraud-selection I vowed I will never waste another precious minute on national SELECTIONs. I don’t waste my $ at casinos, so why get caught up in the biggest of them all.

            My energy is now completely local – such as ~ yet another cover of darkness school bond election to waste money. Next level, then the next, etc. Start local and make your voice known by the locals… It Matters A Lot!

            • I should add that the locals know that I don’t sit idle and cower at the pro-active progressives that are very willing to spend ‘OPM’ – other peoples monies’.

              It is quite amusing to hear many others say – ‘Yeah, she’s right; just what we were thinking also’… they just didn’t want to rock that boat. (side note: loved the snicker / smile by local peace keeper – I think I saw a wink). If you ain’t cotton to being on the spot light – at least find that person that is and only needs a support group…. 2 is 1 / 1 is none… kind of thing. Grow it!

              Don’t be a sheep, be a leader (or at least a voice) and stand amazed at the army behind you when you are sanity against the not-so-much. Be Local, Be the voice of NOMI! and watch it resonate out.

              If you find you are out-numbered by the problem, then move your stuff or don’t bitch about the out-come.

              /rant off.

              `..~ TG.

            • I expect that most sheriffs especially those who have indicated they will not go along with the regime will disappear or otherwise be removed from office before the fun and games start.

          • But you need to include the Patriot Act too

          • Is it leap year? I totalley agree with you..

            NOMI-CATIYMF

          • The People also need to actively support those lawmakers prepared to do the right thing and obey the Constitution. Are the People will to DO anything or is it just more waiting for “them” to “do something”?

          • I’m a Marine Corps vet. I took an Oath to defend the Constitution. Why can’t we use there laws against them?
            Lets find a way. I would sign the affidavit if people are willing to do it. We need a national movement. we can’t just sit around waiting.

        • Should only be allowed inside the DC beltway and only against elected officials and armed civilian gov employees, problem solved.

        • I have words of encouragement and action to suggest. First, a word of encouragement.

          Throughout human history, tyrants always gain a technological edge over those they wish to oppress. Did that ever stop the oppressed from finding a way around the problem? No, somehow people always find a way to defeat tyranny, but only after a very, very long train of abuses. Today, we’re about to see the caboose on that train.

          As for what action to be suggested, that should be R&D into radio frequency and electro-magnetic technology.

          http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm

          The Achilles heel of this technology is that it is wireless. Wireless in it’s very nature is highly unreliable in electrical storms and chaotic radio interference.

          Secondly, these machines also rely heavily on electricity, and we all know what an EMP can do to circuitry.

          The third and final consideration is the potential to override and gain control of such a device. In their own hubris they think people are morons and could never do such a thing. I am here to tell you that if two guys with a laptop, a parabolic dish antenna and a $26.00 program can pull it off in the deserts of Iraq, I’m quite certain many others here in America with greater access to better resources could do even better.

          These things should be comforting to know if the need ever arises.

          • The Achilles’ heel is $$$. These systems are all terribly expensive to operate.

            • You still think that money exists?

              Nothing is expensive to operate when you have conned the people of the world into working for you in exchange for paper.

        • I wish Simon never left American Idol. Randy Jackson sucks. And what’s up with Brittany not coming back? J-Lo is getting old. Bieber would be great but he is with Simon on X-Factor. And Dancing With The Stars is so hit and miss. Sure hope they get this mess straightened out!

        • In 2008 he promised he wouldn’t take OUR guns. If he wins a majority in both the House and Senate, every American right will be extinguished.

          Engage. Vote. Vote often.

          • The fraud also swore he’d not raise taxes on those making under 250,000 too!!

            • I bet you voted for him. Come on admit it, you are mad at him simply because he broke your little heart. Bad daddy.

          • @DK, I know what you are saying. Can you believe that lady. Works for the voter registration department and voted 4-5 times for Obama. Admits to it. Even proud about it. Bitch about it is that nothing will happen to her. She may even get promoted.

            And where is the ACLU in all of this drone business? Wouldn’t you think that this is about as egregious an act against our civil rights as you can get?

            And to answer the posters question above on Nancy Pelosi looking good 20 years ago. No she was not. Looked just like the street whore she does today.

            Just wait for the thermal imaging vans cruising your neighborhood. Just making sure you are safe. That is the next step. The whole thing is starting to piss me off. NOMI!

            • Put a bullet through the fuel tank then fire a flare at it

          • Then reload.

            • I will, count on it. I heard today that in New York a policeman will visit every gun owners house once a year to make sure that everything is in order. Fuck that, even here in California every 3rd house will be a Ruby Ridge. At least I can guarantee mine will be.

              • BigB,
                The NY thing where the police are to visit homes yearly was just a proposal. Hopefully, it will go nowhere. If it does…then it’s on.

            • Tracer

          • Vote you say? Vote often too?

            How ’bout voting from the rooftops?

            • Thats exactly what he means.

        • Just take a look at the new D.H.S. targets, it should make you feel better.

        • This half breed Arab has a lot to answer to G-d for.KMA

        • all i can offer is prep and pray and to get out of the town you may live in if it is at all possible…

          this door being kicked open by this regime will never get closed…

          • The pregnant woman in the nursery is “hostile”. Whomever pursued her into that location is not.

        • I have one—drag the son-of-a-bitch out of the oval office and put him out of our misery.

        • God loves a workin man… and we gotta a lot of work to do.

        • Good vs. Evil we know which camp Obama falls into.

      2. “To paraphrase President Obama, Diane Feinstein and the many Congressional representatives who support a safer America, it’s time we start disarming those who have access to these weapons of mass destruction. These military style assault weapons have no use in hunting or sporting, and have no business being on the streets of America”

        The only way we will ever have a safe America again is to get rid of these thugs by any and all means.

        • Highspeed; Amen and well put.

          • RED FLAG EVENT FIRST, IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THE USE!!! I AM SURE IT WILL BE AN AWFULL EVENT,ONE THAT WILL SPUR THE USE !!!!NOT SURE WHAT???? BUT BIG!!!!
            WE HAD TO USE AN ARMED DRONE,OR THESE HOME GROWN DOMESTIC TERRORISTS WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY, AND KILLED MORE INNOCENT AMERICANS.
            THE DORNER EPISODE WAS A TRIAL RUN,NEXT TIME IT WILL END WITH A BANG.

            • Isn’t there a big get together this weekend of people who don’t agree with the scumbags?

              • Bring your special sunglasses.

                Heh.

            • One thing almost anyone can do is keep video recorders up and ready. Wherever you are, whatever you do, be vigilant about snagging video of anything you see as “odd”. They cannot stop 170 million gunowners, and they also cannot silence 190 million video recorder owners. Just read an article wnd about how the 1 vaccine we actually should have access to, we don’t. Amazing article.

              http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/the-1-vaccine-we-need-is-illegal/

              It wouldn’t surprise me to see some tainted chemtrails in the not-too-distant future.

        • Highspeed,
          I keep going to sleep the last week or two “fantsizing” about just what you speak off. I keep having to redo the list and order cuz baddies keep one upping each other.

          Sorry, but it does ease my mind and I drift off to sleep much more peacefully running scenarious through my mind.

          • keep gaming…I do it every day…on my local scale…
            every street,drainage ditch,culvert,line of hedges,everything. then I expand…

          • I know what you mean Kindle. I think we’ve all gone to the dark side a few times lately.

            • I guess it is my way of fighting back and training my mind at the same time. In running scenarioes through my head I can at least see and think of things I had not anticipated before.

              I’ve never been one to freeze up in an emergency and maybe it will help when the time comes. Only time will tell.

        • AND THIS QUOTE IS FROM A CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER! DAMN! I THOUGHT BUSH WAS BAD!

        • Why did the NRA ever allow the left to take control of the narrative and let semi autos be called assault weapons which they are not. Stupid is as stupid does. A lie repeated and not refuted becomes the truth.

      3. “One can only conclude that military and law enforcement drone strikes will soon be business as usual”

        This statement tells you exactly their intent..

        there will be strikes here..and slowly but surely they will become ..as he said..Business as usual..

        now if only we could find a way to control the targeting systems , so that each time they pulled the trigger it would be one of thier own encampments that gets wasted

      4. the chimp needs to go.

        • Yet I agree, but the Teleprompter in charge is just a figure head for this adgenda,, who is number 1?

          • None of us have ever heard IT’S name…Well maybe…
            But those who have don’t dare speak it.

            • Those who have accepted Jesus Christ as our savior can speak it without fear. See Luke 10:17-20.

              “At the name of Jesus every knee will bow”. – Philippians 2:10

              “These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.” – John 16:33

              There’s a story that one night the devil visited Martin Luther. Luther woke up, saw the devil, said, “oh, it’s only you” and went back to sleep.

              I have had a similar experience twice.

        • This will only hurt a little bit….Doctors orders….

          • “Doctor Obamas orders”–Sheesh!

        • Nevel put a black man in charge of anything. There is a reason all first-world countries are run by whites. The Jews and Mexicans need to go.

      5. I predicted this was coming to our shores, as far back as 2002, when Rumsfeld got on TV and was boasting about how he and his coke snorting, lying little 911 approving weasel from Crawford, Texas had blown up an SUV driving down some remote road in Afghanistan because their ‘intel sources’ (read Israeli Mossad) pinky swore to them that the SUV had ‘suspected’ terrorists inside it.

      6. The forefathers knew tyranny like this could occur. That’s why they built into law, a mechanism to prevent it. That mechanism only works if the people stand firm.

        The people are the teeth of the US constitution. Until and unless they demand it be followed, there is no constitution, only a worthless scrap of paper. Not worthless for it’s words, but worthless because those who give it power will not.

        • Well said!

        • Washington’s Vision.

          • Washington’s vision was 20-20.
            Here in 21st century blade runner America, we require +2nd gen night vision and thermal units, if we’re going to compete.
            Time to dump some PMs and secure some stuff that will likely enhance your survival or mission success chances.

      7. In Matthew Bracken’s, Foreign Enemies and traitors; The Greater Depressiona and Civil War 2, is some very realistic examples of how this could play out.

        In the story, after the gun ban someone who just looked like they might be carrying a gun was taken out by a drone…right here is the US.

        I would not put it past TPTB to do this kind of stuff.

      8. My freedom of speech includes O saddling up for a ride on the new toy.

      9. Citizens 0
        Government 10
        But who is keeping score.

      10. Yikes!~ Take away the guns and ammo, load the sky with drones controlled by unseen operators, collapse the economy and family, turmoil and war around the world, NDAA etc.
        ESCAPE the city! GO NOW…GO to the country while you can. Consider a three month window for major preps I keep feeling April or May will be very bumpy- Hope I’m wrong, yet a funny tingling sensation has me prepping like crazy.

        • I don’t want to be a party pooper, BUT….These new threshold dates just keep getting moved foreward. It has been “just about to happen” for the past 4 years now. Looks like it is going to be hard to predict. I still say nothing “big” happens for at least 2 years until Obama gets a Dem controlled House and a legitly torn up Constitution. Then its on. His third term etc, etc. King Bama and his media outlets rule the good Ole shitbag of a country.

          • Well, I mean YEAH… if there IS a third term, “it” HAS happened by definition.

            No worries though, there doesn’t have to be (I’m being sarcastic here). They’re running Hillary and Napo… leon dynamite however you spell Janet’s last name.

            De-facto third term.

            • Nappytonto!!

        • Cooler heads tried to warn Bush and others about the danger of the Patriot Act with another administration mis using it. No one listened and now the use of the law has no semblance to it’s original intent. Never thought that 9/11 would be turned into a story of how average Americans flew those planes into the buildings did we.

      11. Any one who has any involvement on any level, in any way shape or form, in the summary execution of an American citizen who has not been properly charged, arraigned, and found guilty by a jury of his peers, those responsible should have their faces publicly posted on ‘Wanted: Dead or Alive’ posters for all to see. Starting with the people who ordered the execution.

        If the criminal evidence is irrefutable, it will stand up to judicial scrutiny. If not, is an illegally summary execution and no more legal than a mob hit in my opinion.

        • exactly.. a mob hit sums it up..and with mob hits, comes revenge..what they are prospecting has no end..

          do you think if they killed your dad and mom, would you just go about your daily life and not want some type of justice, even if it was just punishment for the act of murdering your folks?

          If they do move forward with this, and we see this in our days here in this country…there will be a lot of paybacks coming for a group of people that seem to have no idea what they are asking for.

          I know i would avenge any of my families wrongful termination..and they can count on it!

          • VRF,

            You hit the nail on the head. This is the quintessential Pandora’s Box. If TPTB elect to go down this dreadful path, it’s a one way street. There will be no turning back. Any shred of innocence America has left will be stripped away instantly. The very concept of ‘Dangerous Freedom’ will be tested to it’s maximum extent.

            The fascist politicians who support this madness have become lazy, stupid, and complacent. They see themselves as untouchable deities and believe there are no unintended consequences for drone strikes on American citizens on U.S. soil.

            As time is the ‘Great Equalizer’, it will prove that they are sorely mistaken.

            • Amen YH..I know a lot of people that would think the same as we do about this..the hell hole they would be opening , would be big enough for all of them

              • Obviously the people in charge have no fear of or respect for the citizens of the country. Look at the web site People of Wal-Mart and it might give a hint as to why not.

      12. The rules will be different for now. Or… till it becomes necessary. Then they can take the exact same drones they are using and add the munitions to the mounts that are prebuilt on them.

        People will wake up soon, or they will wake up dead

        • People need to paint on the roofs of their houses, the city and state of the residence, so the drone operators know EXACTLY where they are murdering people and effecting collateral damages. Not some far off battlefield, but here domestically.

          This way their commanders or systems cannot obfuscate true locations by night vision and other filtering techniques to insulate their operators from the truth.

          What is the acceptable kill ratio of collateral to target?

          something like 20/1 or higher? Absolute murder, plain and simple.

      13. Still think you live in a free country?

        • Walt,
          We have not lived in a free country since John Kennedy was murdered by a power mad inside cartel. The lies began long before, but the success of that power grab has inspired crimminal minds to run on lies and pretended compassion until that’s all our goverment is.

          The shackles built around my mind in the public school system took a while to shake off. I REFUSE the chains. I will live free, I will die free.

          • @Kyratheyl…

            I agree with you 100%.

            I was in the 4th grade when Kennedy was assassinated.

            As I look over the years, that event marked the time when everything changed.

            The second event that I believe has caused the recent acceleration of events is 9/11.

            Both events were pivotal as regarding the leadership of this nation and the destruction of our freedoms.

            • The Vietnam war was the single worst thing that ever happened to the country. It gave the push to the radicalization of the young and cover for the agitators. In 1968 the Democrat party ceased to exist as it was and instead was taken over by the radical left. To this day the Stupid Party still has not come to grips with that reality. In 1070 if someone had stated that the likes of Ayers and Dohrn would be frequent visitors to the White House and influential with a president they would have been sent to the nut ward.

          • How the passing of time, affects people’s thoughts on the greatness of Presidents. Like JFK was such a great Conservative, one of his many outstanding actions was when he yanked the rug out from under the freedom fighters who attemped to over throw Castro. Now that was a true massacre, caused by JFK when he pulled, their, air support. Sure wouldn’t want JFK covering my back, when fighting for Freedom. Trekker Out.

            • And he gave govt workers the ability to unionize which is killing this country in several different ways now.

      14. they ran out of fabricated Boogey men…so its you and I now!

        • @VRF

          You consistently say more in one sentence than most do in many paragraphs.

          • Thanks man…uh, I think? right?

            its like I was saying to a friend Ive had since we were 14..the world just isnt like it was when we were kids, this isnt the America I grew up in , knew and loved..its been hi-jacked.

      15. In the hypothetical situation of it going hot. Why would you want to fight the military or LEO. Wouldn’t it be easier to take out the traitorous bastards in the government, judiciary, media, etc. Aren’t they easier targets.

        • Right on, Dave–chop off the head of the serpent!

        • Sorry Dave, don’t think you would have a choice. LEO and the Military would just naturally be between you, and those traitorous, fatherless people in government. I could be wrong,have been before. But don’t think so. Trekker Out. Good Idea Though!

          • Someone will get an op…and they will fucking take it.

            Their asses will be on the playing field.

            That’s how the earth works.

      16. We are in the end times. Repent. Seek the Lord’s Righteousness before the battle to come. This war is the synagogue of satan usurpers (jews who say they are but are not Jews) against YAHUSHUA and HIS ELECT. The Lord and His Elect will rule them with a rod of iron.

        The Lord is Righteous in Judgement and Grace.
        Standing by in Texas.

        • Amen,
          Sell your coat and buy a sword…

          (Preferably a Colt.)

          DK says we are Seal Team America.
          Many say they are MOO’s; Militias Of One.
          I speak of the Jedi.(Justice Enhanced by Direct Intervention)

          Which one will get you targeted by the PTB?
          Which one will be laughed at by the PTB?

          Chess is a game of thought, Checkers is a simple game for simpletons. When chess is up against checkers, who do you think will win?

          • Piper Michael,

            TPTB are We the People as in Romans 13. Although most of the real PTB have abdicated themselves to the usurpers.

            As far as targeting We the People goes, I suppose having a militia named ‘Pinky and Sponge Bob Rainbow Posse/Klan’ would put you at the bottom of the list. What alphabet agency would want to be involved in a take down of that menacing outfit flying a pink/rainbow flag? That agency would be laughed to scorn.

            As far as I know, every male under the age of 60, with a few exceptions, are “reserve militia” and are liable to be called up at anytime. It’s not illegal yet to get together in groups to train for such an occurrence.

            If the Lord is playing Chess. Some of us are playing Checkers. The rest are playing Kick the Can.

            • Whether you know it or not, you just negated your own argument, and substantiated my point…
              Your ridicule was the exactly correct response desired.

              And you think like a typical checkers player.
              Get together, go ahead, try it.
              You will instantly pop up on the List.

              • Piper Michael,

                No argument. Just answering your questions.

                As far as you trying to see the game I’m in, your going to have to get it in reverse at about 90 MPH through a school zone for about 3 days to the corner of NO and WHERE to catch up to me buddy.

                I’m playing kick the can with a lit fused bowling ball nearly out of fuse. It’s your world and I’m just passing through.

            • PS:
              I suppose you believe all that Babylonian/Catholic inspired crap about being ‘submissive to Godly authority’?

              Otherwise you have me confused with your logic.

              • Be careful giving the usurpers the title “THE POWERS THAT BE”. For the Christians, according to Paul in Romans 13, to give them such a title you give also authority and allegiance.

                Better to call them usurpers. Since the true “POWERS THAT BE” according to Oath of Offices is the Constitution, which acknowledges the People, who is given Power by the Declaration, which acknowledges the Creator as source.

                You are “The Powers That Be” (TPTB). Don’t give them Your Authority. Consider also that most of our Service Members will remember their Oath and will not follow illegal orders. You will know the difference.

                The Lord is Righteous.
                Standing by in Texas.

            • Anyone who joins a militia is a fool. As for calling me up they can get screwed. Not going. Let the fools who voted these criminals in deal with it when their EBT cards don’t work anymore..

              • John W.

                Your not in Texas are you? So there is no point in talking to you about Militia Laws.

          • depends on whos rules you play by chess or checkers? they move differently checkers can beat chess just on this basis. Remember we were chess and the vietcong were checkers how did that go?

            • Good point.

              I better stick to kick the can.

      17. We are screwed big time! Now its fight or die! The next few months may determine how our children and grandchildren will live! We hang in together or we don’t hang at all! Its as simple as that!

        • Defiance—An old WW2 vet once told me about his capture
          by the japs and was put in an internment camp and was
          forced into slave labor to unload their supply ships.

          While he and the other pows were unloading a shipment of
          sugar in the cargo-hold, they all pissed in the sugar.
          He said it didn’t hurt the japs a bit, but even though
          we were in shackles, they could’nt shackle our spirit of
          defiance! RIP Jim….

      18. The next step will be mandating that everyone wear an exloding collar. If they leave their designated area, or do something the government doesn’t like—bang your head is blown off. Or maybe they will just incorporate this into the mandatory tracking microchip everyone will have to have. This country is on a fast track to hell and we, or our children, are going to pay the price. All you have to do is watch the news and see the future of our children starving in refugee camps while the big wigs running the government lives high on the hog.

        • Well…not high on the hog…Muslims don’t eat pork do they?

        • You are not far off… if you take the new chip money account, and they don’t like what you do, they will simply turn YOU off…

          “See how simple it is to control the sheep”?

        • JAS,

          You should read the book, “The Cattle” by Greg M. Sarwa.

          You are not the first to suggest the exploding collar, though in “The Cattle,” it was a chip in the hand that could stop your heart with an electrical surge if you offended anyone in the government.

          • Neva–you are NOT that far off from a story I heard/read not long ago–the answer to ‘why many patriots-turned-traitors do what they do’??

          • in richard backmans book running man they had exploding collars just like the arnold movie running man.

      19. You have to be a total asshole to see where the last 2 years is leading. We Tea Party types are buying guns/ammo like mad and our Federal Government is doing the same.

        The Evil that occupies the Oval Office has the Fed destroying our money, while Prepper Expos are being heald in many major cities.

        Besides guns, gold and silver sells really well, while gas and food continues to climb.

        Both Russia and our allies are pumping guns into Syria where The Evil that occupies the Oval Office is fighting a proxy war with Russia/Iran/China in Syria.

        China’s pet Pit Bull is testing nukes and China herself is prepping to go to war with the Japanese, who we are bound by treaty to defend.

        Meanwhile in some of the schools in Minnesota, for Black History Month, they have the kids reciting “The Black Panther Pledge” and FX is coming out with a new show set during The Cold War, where the KGB is the good guys.

        So why is anybody surprised that The Evil from the Oval Office will bomb his own people?

        • “not to see”,

        • REALLY! The Black Panthers have a pledge. Wow! I’m scared already…lol! I was really following you until you brought out the inner city Black boogieman! If things ever hit the fan we are going to need everyone fighting on the same side. When we go to war its a everybody is invited party. Making more enemies from fairy tale stories about Mexican gangbangers invading the countryside or Black gangs raping white women is helping no one. Haven’t heard of trailer park Aryan bikers selling Meth to kids and raping teenagers but I’m sure I will soon enough.

          • @Me3

            REALLY! Im really not interested in Obama voters being invited to the “PARTY”, they’ll only contribute to the problem in case your not paying attention.

          • Me3,
            How do you breath with your head so far up your ass.

            • John W.,
              HERES A LESSON FOR YOU OL DUMB ONE! California is no longer white! Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Utah won’t be in 10-12 years. Didn’t lose you yet did I or are you still playing hide the sausage with your daughters?! If you and anymore military geniuses know what a two front war is then just try to imagine fighting every non-white democratic or republican just because they are nonwhite? Hmmm bottom line you lose! But on the brightside your daughter will love all the new dark meat for her once you stop poking her!

        • Also, you need to know who in your state is an anti-Constitutional traitor. Fighting the LEO and military is not a winning proposition. Change the leadership with the same force they plan on using on you.

          Know your Judges and Politicians and News and Hollywood traitors.

      20. Notice to Barack Obama and his enablers and his supporters. You have pushed the envelope too far. Your threats have become intolerable and as such they will no longer be tolerated. You are a criminal. You will not employ anymore drones and in fact if i find one above my property i will do my best to bring it down. YOU ARE OUT OF CONTROL! You will be stopped and you will go to prison, among many others. The time for this gig is just about up. You asked for it you black, treasonous bastard. And all of those who support this satanic, globalsit, marxist agenda are also guilty by association. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

        • Prison is not the proper punishment for traitors…

          • No its not. There are a few however, that I would like to take some time with before I douse them with lime. And if I get to likin’ it, I just might expand the list.

          • MY BROTHER’S FAVORITE MOTTO (IN TALKING ABOUT THE ELITES) IS: “OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!”

          • Death to socialists.

      21. Luckily those GPS coordinates they took of everybody’s residence during the census won’t be used by the drones.

        • I just hope their Google Earth drone jockeys have high enough resolution to see the grace with which I will present my middle digit, when I run out of ammo.

        • Thats why I wouldnt let them on my land….drone may blow up my mailbox but itll not be close enough to the house to git me…hehehehhehe 🙂

      22. FUCK OFF B. Obama, FUCK OFF Congress, FUCK OFF to all of the people who are part of this, support this or enable it in ANY way. GO TO HELL YOU FUCKEN TRAITORS.

        • Amen,
          Why don’t ya tell us how ya really feel eeder?
          😉

          • I see that the trolls are giving everyone here their
            obligatory Thumbs Down today. But thats OK.

            Hey finx, Good News! When Obama was getting his annual
            colonostomy check, they found your hat up there!

            • I can say ‘thank you’, and get thumbs down…
              Finx and JoeinNC, do a persistently good job!

      23. Odd how the “gubment” worries about a few semi-automatics in the hands of the population and yet armed drones will be available to conduct citizen removal at any second.

        So how many drones required for deer hunting?

        Feces is ready for the vortex generator people.

      24. the united fucking states of Israel! thats what we are all ruled by. What a fucking joke!

      25. I can see it now…some brisk morning, camp fire burning, the smell of bacon, flapjacks and coffee in the air, huntin’ buddies making their plans for the day…suddenly snuffed out by a hellfire missile…all in the name of “national safety”!!

        • you forgot the second part of the story..the patriot side of the story

          when the huntin camp went up, the signal was sent to the group 111%..and the drone control center is now a smoking hole in the ground..all in the name of Seal Team America

          NOMI

          • light up enough jugs of thermite on top of the control center and a smoking hole is exactly what they’ll get. hell-fire for real, 4000 degrees F is what that stuff burns at..;)

            • mmmm getting into my field now:) ammonium nitrate + fuel oil. Your weps go bang Mine go BOOM.

      26. Lock and load…… it’s war bitches….
        Most sheeple think nothing of these events. Time to pray and stay vigilant

        Keep preppin’

      27. Surveillance drone spotted by hundreds of us last SAT 2/16 at AZ state capitol rally for 2nd amendment. Drone traversed parking lots, then hovered several minutes above speakers and crowd. Yikes. Will it now be armed for this SAT 2/23 Day of Resistance rally?

        dayofresistance.com/rally/

        Long-time reader, first-time poster, thanks to all who contribute so much.

        • PULL !!

          • would that shot be taken with full, open, or modified choke?

            • I’m thinkin’ maybe the Turkey Tube in the 10ga…

              • or one of them huge Geese guns, they were so dam big they were tied to the boat…lol

                • Called a Punt Gun, 4 gauge shotguns!!!!

            • 000 buck, cylinder bore.

              • All kidding aside, It sounds like what Outraged saw was a Quadropter or one of it’s close kin. I don’t expect it would take a whole lot of horsepower to put one out of commission.
                Just a couple of pellet strikes to one or more of the blades may set off enough vibration to render it uncontrollable and/or make the camera useless. Hmmm…..

      28. We don’t need guns but they need drones to kill us. That make sense yup.

        • Yea, well you’re just paranoid…..

        • yep… like Obama telling us to give up our guns, while his kids go to school surrounded by security personnel who all have GUNS!! What hypocrisy!

          • His kids are important unlike yours peasant. Know your place.

      29. Are we stilol holding, or is it high time to take to the F’ing field?

      30. I see a lot of finger pointing to the left or right, but this goes way beyond party lines. I don’t see anyone in congress standing up and saying no to these actions. This is big government as a whole. It started with the patriot act under GWB and has been escalating ever since. They want complete control over the citizens of this country and will do anything to get it. We will be disarmed and under constant survelence 24/7 if we are not careful.

        • yup and even thier own government stiffs can be included in thier own target sheets..or HVT’s

          maybe they should give a shit about what they are agreeing to..it can be used on them too..oh the folly of unintended consequences eh?

          • I am looking forward to that day VRF.

            • If that is true….I personally do not require any more proof of what they intend. That is truly eff’ed up! Lock and load…..prepare to reap the whirlwind.

              • I’ve been trying to verify this for a couple of hours now, but have been unable to get past the company home page. Trying to do so invokes some gnarly javascript that max’s out my CPU in less than 10 seconds. Interesting.

                ———————
                ~$ whois letargets.com

                Registrant:
                Law Enforcement Targets Incorporated
                8802 West 35W Service Dr NE
                Blaine, MN 55449-6740
                US

                Domain Name: LETARGETS.COM

                Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
                Lynch, Darin [email protected]
                Irish Titan
                7400 Metro BLVD. Suite 195
                Edina, MN 55439
                US
                6129101414

                Record expires on 10-Jun-2014.
                Record created on 11-Jun-1996.

            • Time to go Michael Corleone on their ass…..in one fell swoop take them ALL out. Just my 0.02 cents

            • That just makes me sick. Forwarded it to ALL my email friends with the caption (two billion rounds purchased for paper targets, any questions?)

        • Rand Paul IS standing up to it and asking the proper questions…or did you miss that?
          He asked about drone strikes within CONUS, and got a mealy mouthed non-answer…
          He is still pushing… He was on Fox sunday.

      31. Eeder, I agree with you totally. There’s nothing legitimate about these drones or anything else the government does these days. They make it clear everyday what their intentions are toward us. If I see a drone it’s fair game and I will try to bring it down. Geolithic, I have the same feeling you do about April-May; I think that’s when the balloon will go up. Still prepping but ready to rock-n-roll now if need be. NOMI CATIMF braveheart

      32. http://privat.bahnhof.se/wb907234/killuav.htm

        Wait until Internet Trolls with l33t haxxor skillz get there hands on these!

        Anyone familiar with the 4chan crowd know what an almighty flustercuck this is going to be.

        • LOL!

          Revenge of the Script Kiddies!

      33. Outraged in AZ, welcome aboard and hope to hear more from you. JAS, the only way I’m getting disarmed is for someone to kill me first. NOMI CATIMF Braveheart

        • @Braveheart
          Thanks for the welcome, always appreciate your perspective…
          NOMI

        • Why are you so mad at the world sir ? I’m just asking so please dont take it wrong.

      34. Sounds like an attack on America.

      35. Would they use them on terrorists attacking Americans in America?

        • probably not, because that would be like common sense..and they wouldnt want to be like that

      36. The Enemy

        Who is the enemy of the people of God or the Good? Simple, the Head of Gold that rules the statue of the ages. That we all bow down to, the Rule of Gold because he who has the gold, makes the rules. This is how it has been since Babylon. The statue of the empires of rebellion, the statue of Nebuchadnezzar. The System set up by elites for the Elites. The System of Elites that own the money, that they rent to you, at interest. All in violation of the way God wanted things to be, the result of the rebellion of the House of Israel, who demanded a “King to rule over us.” Well how has that System worked out for you over the last 4000 odd years?

        This is one of the splinters in our minds, that tell us something is just ‘not right’ with the world, but we cannot see it because that is just the way it has always been. It is also the Seed sewn within the so called Enlightened Democracies, the Rule above the rules, the God above God, the Thing that people love more than God; money and its control. It is the Idea within the Idea, that brings down all things that are beautiful and righteous, because there is always a worm in the apple. The trouble with worms, is that they have a tendency to ruin the whole apple for us. The apple in this context is the Joy of Life, and the worm is the Love of Money. It is the love of money that is the Root of All Evil, because by the love of money the Head of Gold has continued for thousands of years. No matter its incarnations from Babylon to Greece, from Rome to the Kings of the dark ages, from the dark ages to the Enlightenment, and down to modern democracies, the Head of Gold, like the phoenix, rises from the ashes of what was, to rebuild what will be, to suit itself over and above the masses of humanity.

        Now you see this process unfolding again, as society and economy, politics and religion, move into the throes of Paradigm shift. Some will say it is finance that is the problem, some will say politics, or morality is lost, but the truth of the matter is the love of money is the root of all evil. We describe this whole process in the page; What killed the Idea of America? So that leaves the Good people, and the people of God, wondering, who then, is the Enemy? These are the ten horns of the beast, the ten Shofars of the leadership of the world, the white man’s world of the ten lost tribes, those who own and control The Money. They are also the power that keep the people in denial, and lusting after the material things, that keep them in power. They were the enemy of the Lord, and his last battle in the temple, the only ones who caused Him to lose His temper, there is an ultimate lesson in this.

        They are the power behind the curtain of the Kabuki theater of banking, politics, religion and the armies of useful idiots who love the system and make it go. The true believers, who are not evil, they are just kept ignorant and divided by The System. This is all they have ever known, so who can blame them? As “The Best System on Earth” crumbles in money and morality, as millions are delivered into poverty and food stamps, as the Earth trembles and the weather moves into chaos and drought that could cause national crop failures, as the minds of men turn towards anxiety and depravity, the splinter in the minds of men becomes a festering wound that turns more and more towards madness, as the Great Darkness moves across the surface of the Sol system, nobody sees the common denominator of the long cycles of history and current events.

        But The Enemy knows. How do we know this? Because we were recruited by a very rich man, who was once a client, but is now gone on to his reward. He was a client and we thought, a good man and a friend. But, there was a dark streak in there. The ‘recruitment’ went on for months. Asking questions about our beliefs, and how we saw the world. His name was John, and he was a mason of some repute. He almost had me saying yes, because we agreed on so much that was wrong with the world. We agreed that the world was a fouled up mess, and that democracy was part of ‘the Problem’, for ignorance was a lousy source of governance. We agreed that religion was broken, and morality suffered because of it.

        We agreed that if there was a God, He was not found in the religions of men, but in the Mysteries of the Universe. I agreed that the God of religion did not exist because any being that called himself ‘god’, would not be in the business of throwing innocent children into a lake of fire simply because they were not taught His Name. I could see no difference between the hated god of Moloch and the Christ of religions, how could Christians hate those who worshiped this evil god by sacrificing their own babies into a fire, yet said that their ‘god’ would be doing the very same thing? We had been raised a Christian, but then grew and saw the mysteries and the hypocrisies, and rejected the religions of men, but loved Christ and kept the golden rule as a philosophy of life simply because it seemed ‘right’.

        We almost agreed that there were too many people, and that Earth’s resources had to be kept for the future generations, until I asked how they planned on bringing the numbers down. His answer was telling; “People are going to have to die.” I didn’t like it, but I agreed that it “might be necessary, for there to be any future at all”. He spoke about the masons, the Rosicrucian philosophy, and the Georgia Guidestones, we talked while we worked, and then he asked The Question; “How do you feel about guns?”

        This is where the conversation, the relationship, and our recruitment into this ‘club’ of his, came to a screeching crashing halt. We argued and in the end, became enemies. His side was simple, that the guns had to go, except for them and their lackeys, of course. That without this ‘simple thing’, they could not achieve the Ultimate goal, a New World. Of course, their new world, founded in high sounding words and mysteries, giving forth the appearance of an angel of light, in fact, was to be, eventually, backed by Force. His arguments were simple, that the only way they, The Club, could secure a future for them and their offspring, was the resources of Earth must be ‘properly managed’. In the Zero sum game of Earth, what he meant was, in order for them to live in comfort, most of the world had to live in misery.

        At the time, all we could think of was Revelations 6:6 “A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny, and spare ye not the oil and the wine”. And in the face of this old friend, we saw a Beast. A Beast who saw socialism or collectivism as he called it, as the way to preserve the Elite’s comfortable life styles on the backs of suffering humanity. This began to be obvious as we saw other rich men, who once they had achieved their great wealth, turned against the principles and the system that gave it to them. It became obvious to me that there was recruiting going on worldwide. Then we happened to run across some quote from famous men in history…

        In case you have any lingering doubts that things are not playing out according to some master plan, let those doubts be banished to the koolaide of humor from whence they flow. They are the master purveyors of propaganda, and they own or control all your main information sources, that is also why they want control of the internet…

        Are there good men left in business and government? Of course, but the correct question is; Are they winning? Or are they being bought, co-opted or corrupted as soon as they arrive in Washington? You see what happens to those who stand up to The Machine don’t you? They are turned into clowns and marginalized… The two who stood up to them the hardest, Ron Paul and Sarah Palin, were turned into jokes by their own, at least two have gone down in mysterious plane crashes, some, young men, just die in unknown causes. And some, mysteriously switch from opposed to support in matters like Obamacare… In our centralized government, too much goes on behind closed doors, remember, we had to pass the bill before we could read what was in it? This is not ‘democracy’, this is FASCIST SOCIALIST behavior, enabled by the ignorant and apathetic.

        Their own words tell the story (from both the perpetrators and those who have warned us :

        “For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” — David Rockefeller, memoirs, 2003

        “Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religions destroy spirituality.” ~ Michael Ellner

        “The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.” — Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli of England, in 1844.

        “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise their power from behind the scenes.” — Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court.

        “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it” —Woodrow Wilson, Signed the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

        “The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation.” — Mayor (1918-1925) John F. Hylan of New York.

        “I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within.” — General MacArthur

        “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong it’s reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.” – President Abraham Lincoln

        “All of the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arises, not from the defects of the Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation” — John Adams

        “Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.” — Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928). Reputed to be the 2nd wealthiest man in England at that time.

        “The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it’s profits or so dependant on it’s favors, that there will be no opposition from that class.” — Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

        “The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole… Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world’s money…” — Prof. Carroll Quigley renowned, late Georgetown macro-historian, author of Tragedy and Hope.

        “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes it’s laws” — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

        “Bankers own the earth; take it away from them but leave them with the power to create credit; and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again… If you want to be slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers control money and control credit.” — Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England, 1940

        “Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce… and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.” — James A. Garfield, assassinated President of the United States

        “In the United States today, we have two governments. We have the duly constituted government and then we have and independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System operating the money powers which are reserved for Congress by the Constitution.” — Rep. Wright Patman, 1893-1976

        “In November of 1910, some of these vultures came together at the Jekyl Island Hunt Club on Jekyl Island, Georgia. What were they hunting? The biggest prize of all, the absolute and complete control of all the money in America which means control of all America and with it the power to make slaves of all the people.Those who attended were: Senator Nelson Aldrich (Nelson Rockefeller’s maternal grandfather); A. Piatt Andrew, Economist and Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; Frank Vanderlip, President of the National City Bank of New York; Henry P. Norton, President of Morgan’s First National Bank of New York; Paul Moritz Warburg, a German who was partner in the New York banking house of Kuhn, Loeb Co.; Benjamin Strong, an aid to J. P. Morgan. Paul Warburg was credited as the architect of the bill which was passed by Congress and signed by traitorous Woodrow Wilson. It was entitled the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. America once again had a central bank but this time they had placed America under an absolute dictatorship… The Federal Reserve was incorporated in 1914 and has been creating a completely unnecessary national debt ever since.” — Dr. Ken Matto
        Former Congressional Candidate, 6th District N.J. (www.scionofzion.com…)

        “The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people’s money” — Charles A. Lindbergh Sr., 1923

        “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies . . . If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] . . . will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered . . . The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” — Thomas Jefferson, The Debate Over The Recharter Of The Bank Bill (1809)

        “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.” — President Franklin Roosevelt, Nov. 21 1933

        “You are a den of vipers! I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning.” — President Andrew Jackson: 1829-1837

        “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” — President Woodrow Wilson, 1916

        “We are completely dependent on the commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon.” — Robert H. Hemphill, Credit Manager of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, wrote in 1934

        “The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.” – J. Edgar Hoover, First Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

        “The term Internationalism has been popularized in recent years to cover an interlocking financial, political, and economic world force for the purpose of establishing a World Government. Today Internationalism is heralded from pulpit and platform as a ‘League of Nations’ or a ‘Federated Union’ to which the United States must surrender a definite part of its National Sovereignty. The World Government plan is being advocated under such alluring names as the ‘New International Order,’ ‘The New World Order,’ ‘World Union Now,’ ‘World Commonwealth of Nations,’ ‘World Community,’ etc. All the terms have the same objective; however, the line of approach may be religious or political according to the taste or training of the individual.” — excerpt from A Memorial to be Addressed to the House of Bishops and the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies of the Protestant Episcopal Church in General Convention (October 1940)

        “We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” — Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg

        “The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government …” — American Mercury Magazine, December 1957, pg. 92

        “I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election….It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!” ?— George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress in1957.

        “The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power–Political, Monetary, Intellectual, and Ecclesiastical.” — U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater from his 1964 book “No Apologies”

        “In short, the ‘house of world order’ will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great ‘booming, buzzing confusion.’ To use William James’ famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault.” — Richard N. Gardner, in Foreign Affairs, April 1974

        “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.” —Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747

        “Fundamental Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in.” — Nebraska State Senator Peter Hoagland, speaking on radio in 1983.

        “Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a New World Order.” — Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address to the United Nations, December 1988

        “The New World Order is a world that has a supernational authority to regulate world commerce and industry; an international organization that would control the production and consumption of oil; an international currency that would replace the dollar; a World Development Fund that would make funds available to free and communist nations alike; and an international police force to enforce the edicts of the New World Order.” — Willy Brandt, Former West German Chancellor and former chairman of the Fifth Socialist International, Chairman of the Brandt Commission in the late 1980’s

        “We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.’s founders.” — President George Bush, 1991

        “It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance.” — President George Bush addressing the General Assembly of the U.N. February 1, 1992

        “A colossal event is upon us, the birth of a New World Order.” — Brent Scowcroft, George Bush 41’s National Security Advisor, on the eve of the Gulf War

        “NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order.” — Henry Kissinger, when campaigning for the passage of NAFTA

        “…and after 1989 President Bush would say, a phrase I often use myself that we needed a New World Order.” — Bill Clinton

        “We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years.But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto-determination practiced in past centuries” — David Rockefeller in an address to Trilateral Commission meeting, 1991

        “Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated! That threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the world government.”
        — Henry Kissinger, 1991 Bilderberg Meeting.

        “[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it’s perceptions.” — Henry Kissinger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, 1994

        “The Final Act of the Uruguay Round, marking the conclusion of the most ambitious trade negotiation of our century, will give birth – in Morocco – to the World Trade Organization, the third pillar of the New World Order, along with the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund.” — part of full-page advertisement by the government of Morocco in the New York Times (April 1994)

        The “new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all.” — Nelson Mandela, in the Philadelphia Inquirer (October 1994)

        “By the end of this decade we will live under the first One World Government that has ever existed in the society of nations… a government with absolute authority to decide the basic issues of survival. One world government is inevitable.” — Pope John Paul II

        “This regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of one world government. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept.” — Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter and Obama Advisor

        “It’s easier to kill a million people than it is to control them.” — Zbigniew Brzezinski, Obama Advisor

        “The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England … (and) … believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established.” — Professor of History Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University, in his book “Tragedy and Hope”.

        “But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all of our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of global interdependence.” David Rockefeller, speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14, 1994

        “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” — David Rockefeller speaking at the United Nations Ambassadors’ dinner. [Sept. 23, 1994]

        “Ladies and gentlemen, a new world is emerging. It is a new world order with significantly different and radically new challenges for the future.” — Gordon Brown, 2007

        “His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period when, really, a new world order can be created. It’s a great opportunity, it isn’t just a crisis.” — Henry Kissinger in 2009 talking about Obama

        “We have to shape an international order that can meet the challenges of our generation…” — Obama

        “2009 is also the first year of global governance, with the establishment of the G20 in the middle of the financial crisis. The climate conference in Copenhagen is another step towards the global management of our planet.” — Herman Van Rompuy, the first President of Europe

        “After the economic 9/11, we will face a new world order.” — Nick Clegg

        “The purpose of this financial crisis is to take down the U.S. dollar as the stable datum of planetary finance and, in the midst of the resulting confusion, put in its place a Global Monetary Authority [GMA – run directly by international bankers freed of any government control] -a planetary financial control organization” — Bruce Wiseman

        • Good lord, That post is twenty times the length of the Gettysburg address, Do you think anyone read it. At the battle of the Bulge Generals (McAffe?) response was “Nuts” worked.

          • And many are here to read, not banter.
            Unless your level of reading comprehension is limited to tweets…
            Seriously, when people start saying there is no ‘conspiracy’, the only way to counter a long reasoned post is with information and observation. Many can copy and paste the quotes into their own notes, when ever somebody starts up about ‘no conspiracy’, give them quotes from respected leaders.

            Sorry if the length offends you.

            • Nothing I haven’t seen, but many have not. These things need to be posted more, not less.

              Obama has a paid force of posters to repeat the same garbage in as many places as they can. We must be the same about posting the truth.

              We can’t expect people to awaken if they are not presented with the truth at least as much as the lies. If only someone would pay us to do it…..

              • Thanks GC, et al.
                My thoughts exactly… we are in an information war as much as anything else…

                You can only counter the Big Lie, with the Big Truth.
                The Obamabots are out in full force, we see them here…
                (As I’ve said before, one of them is a nephew of mine… and he is a scum sucking demon from hell. His idea of prepping, is to prepare to take your stuff…)

                Maybe, one or two will read for a change… to see the true face of the boss, an evil that works in the shadows with lies as their primary tool.
                We can’t get to the true believers, but maybe we can pick off a ‘useful idiot’ or two…

                • PS:
                  Been collecting quotes for years… these are all in the NWO file.

                  • Funny… I wrote my comments (way down further) long before I read Piper’s comments, and the two posts speak of the same thing. (Well, basically!)

                    of course, as usual, my comments are held in “moderation” until the following day or two.. ; (

                  • Thank you for the quotes PM, they will be very useful!!!

                • ‘You can only counter the Big Lie with the Big Truth.’
                  I like that! Hang in there, Piper. Be well, my friend.

                  • Hi Smokin … thanks buddy…
                    I hope we can all hang in there,
                    if not, we shall all hang separately…
                    😉

          • I read it.

            • ditto

              • Not me, but I’m coming back around!

        • I read it and even copied to my hard drive. Yes, it is long but very good. It’s a great collection of quotes. How can anyone say this was not planned when you have their exact quotes.

          Seriously long but should be read by anyone who doubts this is all a planned event and you don’t count.

        • this WAS a long post.. but it was very good… and SCAREY! (I read it from the bottom up).

          • So did I Grasshopper, that’s funny!

        • I AGREED WITH EVERY WORD OF THIS POST (AS FAR AS I REMEMBER!) EXCEPT THE PART ABOUT SARAH PALIN (WHO REMINDS ME OF BUSH–GREAT JOKESTERS!). HOWEVER, I NOTICED YOU DIDN’T MENTION KENNEDY’S REMARKS BEFORE HE WAS ASSASSINATED, IN WHICH HE TALKED ABOUT THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT, ETC.

          • Sorry Grasshopper…
            I remember it, just didn’t have it…
            If you can find it and post it, I’ll add it to the list…
            😉

          • PS:
            Sarah Palin is a Machine fighter. She proved that to me in Alaska when she fought the oil machine. She has character and isn’t afraid to stand up for what she believes.
            If you think she is a ‘kook’ or a ‘joke’, then I’m sorry, I studied her, and watched her special from Alaska, it might do you good to forget what anybody else says about anybody, and dig…

        • “We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office.”

        • You lost me at Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin and Ron Paul should not even be in the same discussion on representing the American people. I don’t remember Ron Paul doing any half-assed reality shows, nor having a train wreck of a personal life. Why are people so enamored with Sarah Palin?? She ran for VP on the GOP ticket, she was endorsed by the Party, what does that tell you?? She is not a person of high intellect nor has she done anything exceptional, I don’t see it!!

          • Palin had potential once. Now she is just a different tool for the NWO.

            • One that was handsomely bought and paid for.

              With money printed out of thin air.

              If everyone could just be the recipient of this kind of money instead of those who just want to destroy the USA.

          • I see you’ve accepted the MSM of her. I really don’t care about her one way or another, but without meeting her personally and listening to her story, I would never condemn her simply by what MSNBC says about her.

        • My father told me long ago that if you took all the world’s wealth from the rich people and divided it among all the people of the world equally, inside of a year, the same rich people would have it all again.

        • BRAVO PM!!! Thank you for that wonderful post!! most people have no clue about any of the info you provided. Prep and then prep some more.!!!!!

      37. Take our guns. Debase the currency. Drones in the sky. Forced vaccines. Obamacare. Market crash. Pension/401K takeover. FEMA camps. NDAA. DHS. Eugenics. Housing crash. Chem trails. Patriot act. Endless wars. Endless taxes. WTF!!!!! The world is going to hell! Next will be RFID chips in our hands! Total slavery! What kind of country is my daughter going to grow up in? Its time to fight or die! Live free or die! Restore the anger! We’re waiting for leadership and direction! We’ve got to hang together! For GOD and COUNTRY!!!!!

      38. drone strikes on americans in the USA will be the shot heard aound the world. At that point, it’s war!

        • Bullshit Rachel,

          The shot I heard all the way down here in the Southern Ocean was your president announcing his intention to kill anyone anywhere without reference to a trial.

          It was at that point that he should have been impeached

        • Racheal, the shot heard around the world was the American drone strikes killing women and children in other countries…

          • Oh, but we cry for Newtown—bullshit, if it even happened.
            Our children are more special than other parents’ children??
            We’re American!!! And wonder why we’re hated so??

      39. We should be fine. I’m sure that, per the instructions of DHS head Janet Napolitano and Colorado State Senator Jessie Ulaberri for dealing with mass shooters, the drones will only fire scissors and ballpoint pens.

      40. i’m for hire .

        cost: $100 million in gold .

        priceless: and all your marxist commie puppet problems solved .

        ;0P

        note: i’ve worked with the secret service in the past , guarding clinton . it’s easier than you might think .

        • It goes deeper than one person, but im sure you are well aware of that fact… the puppet is just a puppet..who’s the string puller(s)?

          • That $100 million in gold … IS the cost FOR ALL OF THEM !!!

            I MEAN “EVERY TRAITOR” INVOLVED !!!

            ;0p

            • The NY Chapter of Seal Team America has enough personnel and voting machines to eliminate the NWO virtually overnight.

              Do they have the BALLS?

          • Follow the money, or more specifically, the Gold.

        • You GOT to fucking kiddin’ me! AhHHHHHHhahahahahhaha! I wouldn’t let you protect the steps leading to the shithouse door!

          • yawn ;0P

        • I don’t know why you would kill someone who will just be replaced by a person just like or worse than him. There is an endless supply of these types. Kill an idea not a person. Educate people and soon they will see the right mindset.

          • life expectancy of the nwo njop zog fedgov traitors 30 days … would you apply for a job where all the previous applicants were killed in the first month of employment .

            kill enough of them and eventually they stop showing up to work .

            and so on and so on …

            its the only way any of this will change sooner or later people are gonna die .

            better them than us .

            ;0P

        • Nina

          If you were on Clinton Team I would know. And since we both know I know who you ALL are for real.

          And there are many out their that have much better rates than you suggest.

          Go try. Your new handle sucks.

          • ;0P @fagboypuss i worked clintons ss detail for two weeks on special assignment . you once again don’t know sheeit from shingles . and my new handle is in historic honor of “dutch schultz” . look him up .

            ;0P

            • The only special assignment you were on was to make sure all the Arab diplomats had enough for all the boys you supplied and filled in for when you couldn’t get enough.

              Be Careful you are starting to deal in the real world and when you do that it is so easy to slap you down.

              • Enough Crisco

      41. It’ll be a little bit. Remember the gov’t hasn’t actually taken possession of the 2 billion rounds yet. These are orders to be filled. Not saying to quit prepping, just don’t freak yet. I feel we have a little time. At the end of the day, the gov’t needs to be defunded. Then they quickly run out of money (oh wait, they are already out of money). Anyway, at some point the freshly printed money will no longer be worth anything, ergo no purchasing power. Won’t end well for the fuckers in charge. Just will be hell for us to go through

        • how fast do you think the ammo producers can pump out product? 5,000 rounds a day , per machine? how many machines? hundreds, thousands?(5,000 per machine per 8 hour day, say they only had 10 X5,000 thats 50,000 rounds per day..or say they had 100 machines, 500,000 per day) it wouldnt take long for that to start trickeling in, and the gov. has all our money to pay them to get the job done on time or less if they gave them an incentive that we im sure arnt being told about…for all we know..they might already have half the order, or worse yet we got the news way way late and they already have thier 2 billion rounds

      42. My friends,
        When the day comes that you are being bombarded from the skies (could be a couple yrs, might be much sooner) please remember that, while we do not embrace the morality of the tyrants, we MUST adapt to their mindset if we are to fight. Use their tactics and their way of thinking against them.
        So, what’s the target? If you can down a drone, do so. But the greater target is the command/control center from whence it came. Behind every drone, is an operator. And he is located…somewhere. Know where that place is. Act accordingly.
        Also, history (and the movie Red Dawn) proves that tyrants often kill innocents in reprisal for geurilla acts. Use their own thinking against them. Strike their bases of operation, even if the specific attack on patriots didn’t originate there. It’s still part of the serpent’s system. Take it out!
        Behind the drone operator is a military/domestic ‘counter terrorism’ ops center of some kind (could be labeled as anything, but you know what it is). Behind the ops center is a government. Behind that is a banker, or other NWO organization. And ALL of those are inhabited by PEOPLE. It’s the people in them we are after. Don’t forget that.
        Hit hard. Hit often. Shoot and scoot… It truly is a Target Rich Environment.

        I wonder….. did this just get me moved higher on The List? Oh well, I always wanted to be number one in something! (was hoping for the county shine brewing contest, but this’ll do)

        • and don’t forget, in the words of Chris Dorner to all those he perceived screwed him over;

          “you are a valued target”.

          you valuable targets know who you are, and we’ll get ya….

          • I am new on this site so don’t think that I am a “troll”. I must differ with citing or the glorifying of Chris Dorner. He was part of the LAPD and didn’t perform to the point he was canned. He would be right there with him absent mental health issues. I also do not think race was a factor, evidenced by the number of black people on the force. If he was illegally treated, his remedy was at best odd. Killing a woman who happens to be a daughter of someone you hate makes little sense. I along with anyone who has life experience including most people on this site have at one time been treated poorly even unfairly. We ( I would hope) would not kill a young woman who may have not even liked or agreed with her father. Common sense would also make me think she was not consulted nor had a voice in Dorner’s firing. Where do you draw the line? If I treat someone in a rude manner do you kill my family member? My point is that Dorner could have done like everyone else. Exhaust your options and move on. Look at setbacks as opportunities and have a good life. People on this site are passionate and often have good points. I would think they would not make their actions dependent on another person’s stupidity. The cause is important and will the US will be better off due to Patriots. Not people with mental health issues. Lets not make them anything other than what they are. Sad folks who deal with issues in horrible ways. God Bless and I do enjoy reading this sity and comments.

            • ROY,

              Thank you for your post, I agree with you completely. I have commented to others about this subject with more anger than you have displayed. To glorify a murderer by having his words live on in infamy is disgusting in my opinion. Dorner was a murderer, he lost his job and took revenge on the innocent. Nothing redeeming about that vile psychopath. You can bet he is burning in hell for an eternity. I would like to hear one person on this site say that they would understand why Dorner killed their kid and glorify his memory. It was racism, it was a set up, it was a conspiracy, yea, that’s a good reason to murder an enemy’s kid. It’s sickening how so many treat him like a saint.

            • Hey Roy??
              1)who says we are glorifying?
              2)are you witness to his poor performance level personally?
              3)did you personally see Dorner kill?
              4)again, are you witness to these mental health issues personally?
              Note to Roy: NEVER believe what you see on film, read on paper, or are told by the media.

        • Smokin, didn’t they determine the command control centers for the drones were in Israel?

        • SmokinOkie: The way everything else is in this country, the drone pilots are probably Pakistani or Indian. Anyway they don’t speak ENGLISH!

        • Amen Smokin…

          If you see a van and an antenna contraption, with or without logos on the side, think ‘Target’. Target fuel tanks.
          But remember, two layers of tinfoil and camo cloth for your poncho…
          The Gorgon stare IR scanners above will track your movements, and store all tracks for archive search and plot back to your AO.

          Good napalm recipe for molotovs.
          2 pt gasoline, 1 pt kerosene, 1.5 pt styrofoam chunks by volume. Stir until gooey, if not, add more styro, sticks to everything.

          • when targeting fuel tanks, put a lighter flint into the hollow end of a hollow point bullet, .22LR’s are best size for this.
            smoke ’em if you got ’em………..;)

            • OH,, I DO like that…
              So noted…

            • Use candle wax to hold in place. Dont let the flint be stuck out.

          • This maybe “the shot heard around the world” scenario …. I keep wondering how will we know it has started.

          • This use of Styrofoam may be why Bloomburg wants to do away with it in NY.

          • In the book, “Patriots” Rawles gives detailed instructions on how to make the molotov cocktails and other goodies…:)

        • Tactics and courage along with perserverance will defeat any foe…they have a plan,freemen and women have theirs…the two ner shall meet,one can survive only at the death of the other…dont dispair,get educated,get informed…no plan is undeafeatable,certainly not theirs…”Live free or make those interfering DIE”!

          • Washington’s Vision is the future of America. The future of America is free. The future of Americans are armed.

            100 million American gun owners hold the future of this nation in their hands. Organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, and vote.

            Make every ballot count. Then reload. Engage!

        • My last new world order they forgot the cheesy fries.

        • What Smokie means is, don’t take a knife to a gun fight.

        • Drones are a symptom. You do not treat a symptom. You treat the disease. The NWO is the disease.

          Eradicate the G Flu: R1, D1, L1,

      43. According to AOL news, Obama just announced we should prepare for severe budget cuts. Doesn’t this all sound eerily familiar? First, you give trillions of dollars to ‘TOO BIG TO FAIL’ banks (bailouts), then, you implement austerity measures to pay for the bailouts(put the debt on the backs of every day citizens). How bad will it be? Don’t know. However, this may be the reason he’s reaching for our guns…(They pulled this same sh__ in Russia, Greece, Spain, etc.)

        According to Harvard Law School, the Soviet Union
        collapsed as a result of International Banksters colluding with corrupt politicians, to rob the people of all their assets. Mike Ruppert also mentioned this in his book, “Crossing the Rubicon–Collapse of the American Empire..”

        The news story mentioned teachers being affected, seniors, etc. “Get Ready!”

      44. +1 eeder…Fuck all these suit and tie wearing economic gurus,tv pundits,CNBC analysts,think tank experts,tin chested LEO chiefs and generals and all the rest of the c—sucking bank motherf—ers that produce nothing but words and computer digits. We will see what skills they have when the shit hits the fan and they have to get their hands dirty to survive.As the saying goes…a moron is a moron, no matter how many geniuses he surrounds himself with.

      45. @Gods Creation,
        I would be honored to stand with you. We have a great Sherriff who I believe would do his duty. Keep us up dated. I look forward to sending that traitorous piece of garbage and his lackys to a very small cell forever.

      46. I have been hearing a lot of BAD things about this April. Stock Market crash, Economic Crash etc. Most give the reasoning that the average Federal Government take from our taxes is from 1.1 Trillion to 1.2 Trillion but this April the Federal Government will ONLY make about 750 Billion a LOT less then the 1.1 Trillion they normaly make. (Guess we should NOT have shipped off all our good manufacturing jobs off to China and replaced them with minimum wage Walmart jobs uh? Thanks Mr. Clinton, Mr. Bush and others) This will cause a default and the credit rating to drop several notches and that will cause the interest on our 16.5 Trillion (we owe) to go WAY UP, so much so, we will not be able to pay it. APRIL is D Day for our Federal Government and for us.
        HELL ON EARTH IS COMING!
        PREPARE!!!

        • we need to get it to where the government is making or taking in ZERO..dollars..because it seems they are using our money against us, and using our money to target us..so the sooner they go belly up the longer we get to live without being oppressed or targeted as in this case

        • You don’t think a little thing like a currency crash is going to stop this Beast do you?

          They will not ‘go away’, they will turn nasty…
          They will convert the currency to US Treasury credits or some such thing… just to keep going and extend their power.
          Its called the Lincoln option… when the gov tells the banks to go to hell.

          • True, you make a good point

        • April is also the day they plan to implement the austerity cuts too.. (aol news story–OBAMA announces we should all prepare for extreme cuts).

        • Not only that, drbuzz, but those continuing foreign aid checks never stopped.

        • April 20th could be the RED letter day. Just saying.

      47. It is obvious that TPTB are rattled, as they are falling over themselves trying to bring in USSA as fast as they can.

        I think the combined greed of the typical CEO types has caused them to lose control of their boom-bust Ponzi Scheme. Also, the Internet has blindsided them. It is gonna crash soon, whether they like it or not.

      48. The one thing I don’t think ever gets mentioned is the actual teaching of the constitution. We the people would not be in this mess to begin with if we taught this in schools, at home, in church, and where ever else. Clearly our government doesn’t know what it is and they are supposed to represent us. So if they don’t know and we don’t know then nobody is to blame but ourselves.

        • We used to compel civics and philosophy.
          We use to have God in schools.
          We used to teach students HOW to think, instead of WHAT to think…

          Who is We?

        • I agree with you 100%! Knowledge is the key and mightier than any gun. Guns are used to uphold principles. But knowledge of our constitution and Christian values is crucial foe a free America!

      49. As I read these blogs a lot of potential drone targets present themselves. Wow, I wounder who will be first?

        I GOT TO GO NOW, A STRANGE BUZZING SOUND OUTSIDE.

        • well than, I guess we all have two choices..be a good target and dont move around so much and do nothing about this..or risk being a number on a largely growing sheet of useless paper ( or comp. spread sheet as it may)

          you know there is a saying that goes along the lines of when they came for the…

          First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out–
          because I was not a communist;
          Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out–
          because I was not a socialist;
          Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out–
          because I was not a trade unionist;
          Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out–
          because I was not a Jew;
          Then they came for me–
          and there was no one left to speak out for me.

          Hopefully this makes a point with you

          • your just as much a target of this as my 89 year old grandma thats never lifted a finger to flip off any of this establishment…oh but after she hears this you can bet she will have a stand on it

          • VRF,
            Do ya know who said that?
            Bonnhoffer maybe?

            • im not sure, i know its an odd name..but who ever he was, he was right!

              i should have put quotes around it, but i figured buy now everyone should know thats also from history..

            • The best-known translation:

              First they came for the Jews
              and I did not speak out
              because I was not a Jew.
              Then they came for the Communists
              and I did not speak out
              because I was not a Communist.
              Then they came for the trade unionists
              and I did not speak out
              because I was not a trade unionist.
              Then they came for me
              and there was no one left
              to speak out for me.

              Pastor Martin Niemöller

              • yeah thats the guy, thanks i couldnt remember his name , but I dam sure remember his words

          • Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller (14 January 1892 – 6 March 1984) was a Protestant pastor and social activist.

            Much more at Wikiquote(dot)org

        • You allow FEAR to run your life.
          Instead of being frozen by it, let it motivate you into action sir.
          When you see a boulder rolling down the hill towards you, do you stand like…sheep in the headlights…

          or run like hell…

      50. well said mr buzzsaw.

      51. I need some help. I see that the Big O’s in the WH like LONG PORK to eat, here is where I need the help. According to what I can find on what is LONG PORK (Google,Bing etc.), its what human flesh is called, by Cannibal’s. I hope someone out there can shed more light on this.

        I started out by googleing ( Is pork served at the White House under Big O), what came back is LONG PORK.

        • Long Pork, The Other white meat…

          “Surprise surprise…”
          -Gomer Pyle

        • You are correct it is Human meat. Serve with a nice side salad and a light wine.

      52. This is an interesting and informative site. I enjoy the passion albeit sometimes zealous. Although my mindset is not the same as the more frustrated posts, I look forward to learning and prepping. I have read past articles and some posts that were referred to as trolls. I do like to spur conversations and will at times disagree. I look forward to this conversation and if I offend people with questions please dont get angry. I will not be passive aggressive and my want for knowledge is sincere.

        • Somthing refreshing, thanks a lot.

        • PO’d, As you may know my hobby is bee keeping. Honey applied to a cut will not only increase the healing time it will also help the tissue to heal with less scarring.

          The acient roman soldiers carried a leather pouch as part of the issued equipment. It was pretty much the only medical equipment they carried. Honey has excellent healing qualities and has been used since before Egyptian times.

          The best part of it is that honey can be found on every continent in the world.

          • We are hoping to get bees for our ‘homestead’ this spring. We need them to pollinate 🙂

      53. people are too consumed with just trying to work and survive to worry about these things. and thats how “they” want it!

      54. For those who still think America is entering an era of energy prosperity:

        http://www.postcarbon.org/reports/DBD-report-FINAL.pdf

        “Drill, Baby, Drill”

        Can Unconventional Fuels Usher in a New Era of Energy Abundance?

        We’re being told that – thanks to “fracking” for shale gas and oil, and massive stores of tar sands in Canada – the US is undergoing an energy revolution, leading us in a few short years to become virtually energy independent.

        Written by geoscientist and PCI Fellow David Hughes, “Drill, Baby, Drill” takes a far-ranging and painstakingly researched look at the prospects for US energy abundance in the 21st Century. The conclusions are a stark contrast to the hype. The energy choices we make now are exceptionally important and “Drill, Baby, Drill” provides a reality check we simply can’t ignore.

        • Those fracked wells deplete awful quick…
          They require constant drilling.
          Constant financing.
          Constant steel inputs.
          EROEI
          Energy Return on Energy Invested.
          We shall see if there is enough ‘money’ and steel in the world to support this self defeating paradigm of desperation.

          Olduvai gorge. Steps down the staircase to hell, where only the rich can afford it.

          • Fracking requires way to much of the earths precious water…stay at home.

            That is what God intended.

      55. Read about hypnosis on http://WWW.infowars.com Obama uses all the right words and phrases when he gives a speech. People who listen to him can be controlled by him.

        • Hmmm, I have watched all of his major speeches and so far I still despise him. I guess hypnosis doesn’t work all the time huh?

      56. ask yourself…why would someone do this? why would one act this way?

        why?

        because they are guilty..and we know it, and they are freaked that we know it. and possibly scared to death of us, or probably more like to arrogant to fear anything for thier tratorist,pilfering, scadalous..jeeeze i could go on and on..ie, ways.

        why do people try to intimidate others? control..control out of fear.

        how did Hitler do it?………Propiganda , Fear, disarm, kill,control..

        so do we just sit and wait to see if this is the game? who’s bluffing who?
        all I know is,.. leave me the hell alone, I will return the favor

      57. There has got to be something wrong with a Government who wants to disarm It’s own, yet sends arms to Mexican Drug Cartels and Jihadists in Libya and Syria.

        Cool picture of the drone, just say’n.

      58. Theyre not going to stop. They are wild with lust for power. They are determined to turn this country into a totalitarian state. Something has to be done. The longer we wait the more structure will be in place. It will be too late.

      59. WHISKEY ALERT-WHISKEY ALERT-WHISKEY ALERT

        Due to last summer’s drought and an increase in prices/demand, the price of corn is rising fast. Thus the price of American and Canadian whiskies will continue to rise as they are almost 80% corn.

        Bottom line, give you are going to prep whiskey, better get to it.

        • I listened to Maukmindennerjacket, whatever, being interviwed by Larry King a year or two ago. One thing he said and as it turned out was true was that they have fewer people in prison in Iran per capita than we do here in the U.S. Appears that harsher sentencing gets better results.

      60. When the government uses drones to kill some muslim terrorist in some backwater country that saves American soldiers from being killed or wounded, FINE. There is NEVER a justification for using these f’en drones on U.S soil. If you have some terrorists hold up somewhere in the U.S., then this is what the military or law enforcement is about. The government targets one person on U.S. soil and the government is risking a true revolution.

        First the government is trying to limit or take away all firearms and trash the 2nd. amendment. Then it is considering using these drones like some science fiction movie to target people in their own country. There are enough people in this country that are going to say this is pure sh^&. At least with law enforcement there are witnesses to police abuse and you can possiblt sue the state or the feds and can either stop it or get some type of compensation for obvious thuggery. With a drone there are no witnesses and pretty much you are screwed to try to prove it what they did. That is the plan.

        Again, people are not going to take this, and there are some very alert intelligent people that are going to figure out how to stop this. If the Iranian can snag one of these drones, much more intelligent Americans will do the same. The real answer is don’t F with Americans. Americans are not the enemy you stupid government.

        • Yes I agree, the first missle to be used against americans will be when the people(no they will not be scared) they will be so so F in pissed they will go and start a revolution that can’t be stopped by the government unless they plan on using biological/chemical weapons against its own people. And if they do that and the current military finds out peoples families are killed this whole thing will get out of hand quicker than free KFC in the ghetto and strike against the upper ranks and Obama will lose it all. I don’t have to say what will happen to the leaders of this country,

        • Hey, BI–you put a question in my head….why not drones in Benghazi??

          Anyone have an answer…oh, we can use them on American soil, but not to rescue our own being attacked by evil??

          • @ JayJay. The only answer I can think of is that this crap is just all planned out, and the real enemies of BO’s boys are real Americans. It is so depressing to see the pure ridiculous state of what is going on, you think to yourself that this can’t be real. I mean how can the government be that rotten or ignorant, but it is either or both.

            • Biblical prophecy is being played out.

      61. This is just one more example they are preparing for the worst case scenario..
        In order for them to be on top at the end of the age, they have to pull out all of the stops…
        We are seeing it on an almost a daily basis…

        How much more do you have to see?
        When your daughter or son is plucked from your grasp because they meet a certain DNA criteria?
        But they won’t tell you that…you’re just a bad parent…
        To perpetuate the species they need that mix…
        “whatcha gona do”,…… when that happens…

      62. you want to know the sad part?

        theres people out there that just dont care that this is going on

        and there are people out there, that dont believe this is going on

        than you have those that are in denial of this going on

        so theres a pretty good chance, this will continue

        • “The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that `if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.’ it is a very serious consideration . that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.” : – Samuel Adams, speech in Boston, 1771.

          The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people: Frank Kent

          “Nothing doth more hurt in a state than that cunning men pass for wise.”: Sir Francis Bacon

          The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men: -Plato
          Demagogue: one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots: – H.L. Mencken

          hat tip to
          http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

        • Yes, I know many…
          I just cannot understand them…
          But they tell me they watch FOX…
          So they know what’s really going on…
          I shake my head in disgust and it goes right over their heads…

        • fortunately, we know who they are.

          Act quickly.

      63. act 1; scene 1………. a young family driving down I-95, going to see the mouse in fla….the road is packed with traffic….husband:”hey, what’s that up in the sky? that’s one weird-ass looking plane.”…..wife looks up from her book and stares out the window: “that’s a drone, honey. someone is about to be….” act 1: scene 2……cut to huge fireball exploding on the road….. act 2; scene 1…..usaf control room….all in room stare at video on wall of burned cars and trucks, flames, smoke and melted bodies fill the screen…..drone pilot: ” we got him, sir. mimimal casaldies, sir.”……….lt. commander:” good job, son. now let’s go get the other one.” act 3……comming soon to a city near you….dark days, indeed.

        • And now they will get a fancy smancy medal for it. I hear it a higher honor than one’s earned by soldier who actually face their enemy.

          • This is a late-to-the-party thought, but I wonder if the medal is higher than the actual combat medals (Purple Heart, Bronze Star) ultimately because of the drone pilots’ willingness to attack and kill their own countrymen. Many boots-on-the-ground soldiers might draw the line at that, so the first line of offense may well be the drone pilots, and the gov.corp will want to reward them accordingly.

        • and the video pilot might even be told its “just an excercise”..so in his mind its not really happining…..oh but it is and he is sheltered from that knowledge because hes in some secure station thousands of miles away, taking a “drone pilot test”

      64. I have to tell you that I get that same sensation that has me ready for every possible scenario. My mind is racing day and night. It’s my duty to protect my family. Now the question is, from what??? I keep hearing April… New to prepping and fear that there’s so much to do and so little time to do it in. Helpful suggestions? I’ve research, read, planted, printed, and now I feel that the only thing to do is wait…. Ready!!!

        • Hang in there Mama, do the best you can do, then pray and then pray some more. Do not focus so much on the “when” that will drive you crazy. Keep prepping, stay low,do not share what you are doing outside those you are trying to protect. If others are not seeing it and feeling it by now they probably never will. Not sure how you feel about guns,I never liked them but now consider them a must. Get several,if you can, and get trained. As time goes on your preparations will actually help you fell less vulnerable. Good luck.

      65. Americans have turned a blind eye to the misery, suffering, and death our “wunderwaffen” have brought to others.

        Soon we will all understand it.

        And payback will be a bitch.

      66. ditto vfr ,they are in all our lives.They dont have a clue and that is why we are were we are.

      67. No drones needed. We will take care of our own!

        “Survivor – Texas Style”

        Due to the popularity of the “Survivor” shows, Texas is planning to do one entitled: “Survivor – Texas-Style!”

        The lucky contestants will all start in Dallas, drive to Waco, Austin, San Antonio, then over to Houston and down to Brownsville. They will then proceed up to Del Rio,
        El Paso, Odessa, Midland, Lubbock, and Amarillo. From
        there they will go on to Abilene and Fort Worth. Finally back to Dallas .

        Each contestant will be driving a pink Prius with 15 bumper stickers
        which will read:

        1. “I’m A Democrat”
        2. “Amnesty For Illegals”
        3. “I Love The Dixie Chicks”
        4. “Boycott Beef”
        5. “I Voted For Obama”
        6. ” George Strait Sucks”
        7. “Re-elect Obama In 2016”
        8. “Vote Eric Holder Texas Governor”
        9. “Rosie O’Donnell Is Texas Born”
        10. “I Love Obama Care and Chuck Schumer”
        11. “Barney Frank Is My Hero”
        12. “I Side With Jane Fonda”
        13. “It’s Bush’s Fault”
        14. “Islam Is A Peace-Loving Religion
        and the last sticker is…;

        15. “I’m Here To Confiscate Your Guns”

        The first contestant to make it back to Dallas alive wins…

        Y’all Beware! We still gotta smile!

        • Y’all Beware,
          Awesome. They will never make it past Midland/Odessa…those people are serious rednecks. And I can speak cuz I was born and raised there and still have family there.

          And it is Midland Odessa…never Odessa Midland.

          • Hey Kindle, I think he meant with Odessa/Midland thing that if you’re coming OUT of El Paso TOWARDS Odessa, you get to Odessa first since it’s between El Paso and Midland. Just an observation! 🙂

      68. hunger is a very strong motivator, it will be a key control mechanism. After a few weeks with empty grocery store shelves, most will do *whatever* the gov says. And for bonus points, those same people will rat out anyone who does not comply: “see something, say something, get something”. A masterful plan really, have the peeps do the dirty work for you…

      69. Looking at getting a Savage 10 FCP-SR, sure wish some of you guys could show me a thing or two about it.

        Has anyone ever looked at any of the precision rifle shooting schools?

        Boss and I are looking at either Bad lands tactical in Oklahoma or GPS in Arizona

        • shoots nice…is a show stopper. A .50 stops more than the show.

          One’s (schools) I have seen have been full for along time.

          Don’t go far from home to learn.

          I learned to shoot at an early age. Rifles and optics make it easier than ever.

          I you have things zeroed…and you can exercise perfect self-control, the rest is history.

          • Awesome….why not far from home to learn? I ask cause for some reason, my gut was saying don’t go to AZ, go to OK….closer to Iowa where I currently live

            • BJ…Personally, I don’t want to travel far enough that I can’t get back home on a tank or 2 of fuel.

              I am not a paranoid person. Once you leave your state, you are traveling into the unknown. Certain states are ok…if they are close.

              I just decided several years ago that I like where I’m at and if I can’t do it close by, then I’m not doing it.

              I have alot of responsibility towards protecting my family and community. Safety in my backyard is my prime concern right now.

              I just won’t take the chance until this bs is dealt with.

        • expensive to feed, good luck on the ammo

          Caliber:308 WIN

          Handed:Right

          Rate of Twist:10

          Weight:8.75 lbs

          Overall Length:44.25″

          Barrel Length:24″

          Ammo Capacity:10

          MSRP:$1250.00

          • .338 Lapua.

      70. I forget who said this. “Amateurs fight a war of tactics, while professionals fight a war of logistics.”

        Everything needs something to make it go. Go ahead and guess just two things that a drone absolutely needs to make it go. Cut one of them things and it’s no longer a drone.

        If the Patriots are Americans then we can win this. If all we have left in this country are armchair quarterbackbiters americants, well…

        • You could be an Americant if you believed the Branch Davidians were religious nuts so they got what they deserved.

          You could be an Americant if you think the government did good with Randy Weaver’s family.

          You could be an Americant if you believe in the war on drugs (prohibition 2) used to build up the modern “Al Capones” and police state for the past three decades.

          You could be an Americant if you support ‘no knock’ raids.

          If you don’t give a **** about any of this you are definitely an Americant.

      71. All I could find that a drone needs from wikipedia, since I have no idea what makes them go, solar and electricity?

        I hate it when people beat around a bush….for crying out loud, just come out say what’s on your mind people instead of playing super smart and coy

        • I’m very reluctant to have said what I have already stated. It’s the key to the beasts entire operation. It will require a vigilant coordinated and very large patriot effort to choke as many heads of this beast to death quickly.

          The current drones are like any RC hobby combustion aircraft. Think how your ready to fly this thing but can’t because any of these two things are denied you.

          I hate to sound cryptic. The beast has already said it about a decade ago how it would have to protect these things but can’t. Anyway if the Patriots are put to task, it will get done.

          Unfortunately it will be a signal to the ChiComs to enter the frey. Blood in the water for the sharks. You need to pray for all of us. All of us pray.

          • thanks

      72. Where te he11 is Cyndi Sheehan and her leftist media when we need her???

        Oh, I forgot. That the lamestream media only reports BS

      73. Obama the Liar!!! I guess there is no difference with all politicians. Damn we are doomed!!

      74. Kindle,

        Thanks for the correction and for all in Midland/Odessa, sorry about that.

        Y’all Beware! Gods Creation – Thanks friend.
        A patriots call:

        Just In Time
        NOMI
        1168359

        • maybe a bick lighter and spray can of carb cleaner?

          • @VRF:

            …silly string and a wet/dry vac….just sayin…lol.

            NOMI

            …be safe…stay the course…BA.

      75. CIA Chief Brennen: Refuse To Rule Out Drone Assassinations In The US

        In written responses to questions submitted by the Senate Intelligence Committee, John Brennan, the Obama administration’s nominee for director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), refused to rule out drone assassinations of American citizens on US soil. The committee on Friday released a declassified version of Brennan’s responses.

        Brennan, currently President Obama’s chief counterterrorism adviser, is the architect and director of the program of drone missile assassinations that is run out of the White House with the personal participation of Obama. Asked squarely, “Could the Administration carry out drone strikes inside the United States?” Brennan replied, “This Administration has not carried out drone strikes inside the United States and has no intention of doing so.”

        This is what is known as a non-responsive answer. It is reasonable to assume that if the answer was “no,” Brennan would simply have written, “no.” Instead, in order to avoid a giving straightforward “yes,” he answered a different question than the one that was asked.

        Full article here: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/02/cia-chief-brennen-refuse-to-rule-out-drone-assassinations-in-the-us-2570954.html

      76. Be proactive, we all know the drones land somewhere. Plan ahead.
        Know your targets. There are many ways to get that job done.

      77. . . . those who “intimidate or coerce the civilian population” . . . Oh, you mean that cheapjack Castro clone, Obama, and his minions?

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