Massive Manipulation: “Real Producers and Consumers Don’t Appear to be Represented”

by | Jun 4, 2015 | Headline News | 72 comments

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    It’s been long reported that the money changers operating within the halls of our most hallowed and influential financial institutions have been manipulating everything from stocks and bonds to housing prices and commodities.

    While government regulators have completely ignored the machinations taking place, countless investigative reports and evidence submitted to the proper officials show that the games being played with billions, sometimes trillions, of dollars are no longer just conspiracy theories because the conspiracy to corner and control certain markets is, in fact, very real.

    The latest example has been highlighted by Keith Neumeyer, the CEO of one of the world’s largest primary producers of silver, First Majestic Silver Corp. (NYSE:AG) and Chairman of the First Mining Finance (TSX-V: FF.V) mineral bank, in a letter sent to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. In it Neumeyer argues that the evidence for manipulation is clear and that literally tens of billions of dollars in paper-represented silver are being used to manipulate the value of the precious metal:

    It occurs to me that such massive speculation in COMEX silver futures may not be in keeping with the spirit and intent of commodity law and may suggest something is wrong with the price discovery process, since real producers and consumers of silver don’t appear to be represented. 

    The astute observer may realize that Neumeyer’s warnings can be applied across the board to most asset classes including the broader stock market, the housing market, and student loans where the incestuous relationship between mega-bank financiers and regulators has left a complete disconnect in the price discovery process and realistic valuations. To those willing to pay attention, the manipulations, as highlighted by Neumeyer, is very much a coordinated event impacting millions of people and controlled by a concentration of of players.

    We feel that an effective and fair pricing mechanism is critical for the healthiness of our industry and for the millions of people impacted by what appears from the outside, to be manipulative practices by a concentration of players.

    Can we expect that the government will now move quickly to ensure transparency in markets and criminal charges against those who have been manipulating markets? Zero Hedge Reports:

    Don’t hold your breath for a response, however. Recall that less than two years ago, under the aegis of Bart Chilton who is currently a handsomely paid lobbyist at DLA Piper on behalf of the HFT lobby after spending years bashing them while at the CFTC, the commodity regulator closed its “investigation” concerning manipulation in the silver market, without finding anything.

    in a non-banana republic, a regulator so humiliated would be forced to at least reopen its “investigation” and admit that it was wrong and has missed glaring examples of market rigging, but in the US that won’t happen.

    Which is also why while we salute First Majestic with this first public appeal by a corporation to the CFTC to stop the rigging in the silver market, we have absolute certainty that this too complaint will promptly end up in Mr. Massad trash never to be heard from again.

    We know government regulators will likely ignore the concerns of First Majestic Silver Corp., but as Ayn Rand once noted, the manipulations will eventually hit their limit:

    “We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality”

    When nature does eventually take its course the price suppression scheme being orchestrated by a few concentrated players will lead to real-world price discovery, at which point precious metals like silver could see a major upwards correction, potentially taking it to never before seen highs.


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      1. Real producers and consumers of anything are represented as targets to tax/regulate endlessly ect.

        • I’m flat broke….count me out!

          • They are kill8ng the goose that laid the golden/silver egg! They are short sighted, greedy, corrupt, and power hungry maniacs.


            • Hey they do not care if they are killing the goose. They will just eat the goose and then find any other food around while insuring you starve to death. You are dealing with the financial industry which is the arm pit of humanity. They have had several events like the rigging of Libor to show the corruption of these people. Iran recently hanged a banker for fraud. We need to do the same on a grand scale.

            • I said this a few times weeks ago. Just watching a daily silver chart play out there is def manipulation. I want to day trade it and could male about $700 a day if I had the time. I think the eliteist are shorting silver on paper quick spikes down, and heavy margin debt just to drive the daily price down for a cheaper physical purchase of silver bullion. So people buy silver below $16 and you will be rewarded big time. I want to buy more as silver was kicked to $16.01 today before it went back up to $16.20 approx. Daily I see swings as much as .95 cents. Trade a thousand shares on that daily swing and you just made $950 less $7 trade cost few. Then take your $950 profilts and buy physical silver for long term. There are opportunities everywhere sheeple.

            • It doesn’t matter if silver goes to da moon,
              they will just take it from us anyway.

              Kim Jong Bama has everything covered.

              Even if he isn’t the one to drop the axe,
              his insidious policies will never be
              rescinded by any snakes in the grass that
              may slither into the vipers nest behind
              him that they call Washington D&C.

          • They are killing the goose that laid the golden/silver egg! They are short sighted, greedy, corrupt, and power hungry maniacs.


          • dat you hildog?

        • “massive manipulation”
          I think we’re all in agreement about that and have been since 2008 (probably since 1913 or mid 1800’s or maybe even 1776, or way before)

          “money changers”
          I don’t know if most, even those diehards here, are ready to acknowledge (pull their heads out of the denial ass holes), still, at this very late and obvious stage, that it’s our old buddies the fucking zionist jews who are the ones. I’m not saying the JEWS, the chosen ones (the bible thumpers can still lick THEIR asses, ad nauseam), I’m saying the ZIONIST JEWS.

          The ZIONIST JEWS OWN, OWN, OWN, OWN, OWN the “government regulators”.

          The ZIONIST JEWS OWN ALL THE DECISION MAKERS, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. And the reason they can literally get away with murder is because there isn’t enough CONSCIOUSNESS in the COLLECTIVE to bring LIGHT to the DARK (motives) behind the rigged markets (THERE AREN’T ANY MARKETS ANY MORE. Only sets that the producers of these productions create. It’s ALL AN ILLUSION).

          There isn’t even enough consciousness at this site. Look at all the people that come back everyday and same the same thing over and over and over and over and over. (It’s a club house here that gives the chronic posters a meaning for their lost lives) They don’t get it. They’re just addicted to their role of blaming and complaining and bitching and whining. They can’t do anything about it because they don’t have the consciousness to see beyond the walls that their programmed minds have created. That’s why Mac keeps writing the same thing over and over and over and over, just in different ways. Even those that “think” they get it, don’t. If they did, they wouldn’t be spending half their life at sites like this, saying the same thing over and over and over and over.

          • EA – Uh oh, shame on you for speaking the truth in such a high volume. Don’t worry about those who can not see the Zionist for what they truly are. There is a reason why these types of people have been kicked out of practically every country since the dawn of man. It certainly has nothing to do with their Religion or the stereotypes that they have been brandished with.(well some are true – lol)

            When there is a group of people who claim that “they are the chosen one’s” from God, then there is something completely wrong with this line of thinking. That kind of thinking will bring out the smug, greed, and corruptness out from an individual if they truly believe in such arrogance. Regardless of someones religion, beliefs, or heritage – if a person or group thinks they are above everybody else as in being superior – to me they are a complete pile of shit and not worthy of my time.

            • I am a chosen child of God…a good Christian man…I give more then I ever take…was I always this way? Not even close…I used to make a very nice wage and so did the wife. we did quite well and didn’t give anything back…it was all about me me me and still more for me, to hell with everyone else…then in 2008 we lost it all and I mean all…well almost all..went to TX with a Atlas Van lines truck loaded down and came back to cali in a 96 ford van with nine boxes to our name. I was quite the bitter man for some time…in fact at times didn’t want to live…then it happened, God touched my heart and brought me back home to the flock. Now I sing the praise of God each and every day for bringing me out of the darkness and in to the Light. I thank God each and every day for saving my wretched life and giving me the chance to profess the name of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, He is the Light, He is the Way and He is the Truth. Praise the Lord.

              • Indeed ~ He is to be praised. God Bless.

              • Amen, brother.
                “But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.” Matthew

          • Bingo EuroAmer!!

          • European American, Still wondering, a couple of months ago we were talking about the price of gas, and I said it would be $3.00 per gallon by the first of June and I believe you said it would be under 2 dolllars and closer to $1.00. It’s $2.89 where I live, looks like those Jews did all they could to prove you wrong. What part of Europe did you come from? Germany! Trekker Out.

            • I can’t deny I said it. If “someone” wasn’t so greedy and manipulative, Gas “should” be below $2 right now. But when “they” own the market, they can do anything they want regardless of the present glut.


              How about the Pacific NW…the “Evergreen” state.

      2. real producers have a new name

        it’s “tax donkeys”

        • Thats why the donkey represents Democrats.

          • Jim,

            The donkey is a poor representation of a Democrat. It should be a plain old pick pocket. Donkeys at least carry their own weight.

            • I stand corrected,lol.

          • It’s not a donkey, it’s an ass.

        • In the center is a distorted, yet clear six-sided star…hmmmm.

      3. oh dear
        do I need to remind some folks that Republican/Democrats
        are just different sides of the SAME freaking coin ??????????

        the Rethugs took over my state in the last election

        higher taxes on cable,auto repairs,hair cuts,electricity
        and about 2 dozen other services

        meet the new boss
        worse than the old boss

        • Amazing how many people haven’t figured that out yet.

        • Satori,

          You don’t have to alert me that craps and cons are one in the same. I already know. Just replying to Jim’s comment.

      4. An Arizona Highway Patrol officer stops a Harley for traveling faster than the posted speed limit, so he asks the biker his name.

        ‘Fred,’ he replies.

        ‘Fred what?’ the officer asks.

        ‘Just Fred,’ the man responds.

        The officer is in a good mood, thinks he might just give the biker a break, and write him out a warning instead of a ticket. The officer then presses him for the last name.

        The man tells him that he used to have a last name but lost it.

        The officer thinks that he has a nut case on his hands but plays along with it. ‘Tell me, Fred, how did you lose your last name?’

        The biker replies, “It’s a long story, so stay with me.’ I was born Fred Johnson. I studied hard and got good grades. When I got older, I realized that I wanted to be a doctor. I went through college, medical school, internship, residency, and finally got my degree, so I was Fred Johnson, MD.

        “After a while I got bored being a doctor, so I decided to go back to school. Dentistry was my dream! Got all the way through School, got my degree, so then I was Fred Johnson, MD, DDS. Got bored doing dentistry, so I started fooling around with my assistant and she gave me VD, so now I was Fred Johnson, MD, DDS, with VD.

        “Well, the ADA found out about the VD, so they took away my DDS. Then I was Fred Johnson, MD, with VD. Then the AMA found out about the ADA taking away my DDS because of the VD, so they took away my MD leaving me as Fred Johnson with VD. Then the VD took away my Johnson, so now I am Just Fred.”

        The officer walked away in tears, laughing.

        • LOL! THAT WAS GOOD

      5. The Danes Are Revolting: Tax Administration Set On Fire

        ht tp://

        • LMFAO!!! I read that article-and now am wondering-when will that “idea” get here in the U.S.?
          Probably before the end of the 3rd Fiscal Quarter-September?
          Cue the numbers…
          “In 3…2…1…”
          Be well.

        • “S”
          Read Zerohedge. Only one air plain so far into an IRS building.
          I just wonder how soon that there will be more attacks are coming now that the IRS has your health care. Oh yah what F#$CKING health care. Never use it and it went up from $86.00 to $125.00. GETTING SCREWED AND NOT GETTING KISSED!!! WTF!!!


          • Sarge,was wondering if anyone remembered Joseph Stack,an american here!Folks pissed cause along with him irs guy died,you work for such a hated organisation you should consider getting killed on job a good possibility,especially as times get harder.I say Joe not only gave em the plane,he returned it with a full tank of gas!

          • Sarge,was wondering if anyone remembered Joseph Stack,an american hero!Folks pissed cause along with him irs guy died,you work for such a hated organisation you should consider getting killed on job a good possibility,especially as times get harder.I say Joe not only gave em the plane,he returned it with a full tank of gas!

          • Sarge, if/when my health coverage costs start getting out of hand, I’ll drop the coverage. I won’t sacrifice anything to have coverage. I’ll take my chances.

          • @ Sgt

            I have my own business, mid 50’s, never sick, catastrophic policy, high deduc.
            7/2013 +15%
            2/2014 8%
            I got a letter from BCBS 11/2014 they were dropping my (HSA) health care and I would have to reenroll.
            1/2015 +88% I wonder why BC didn’t just keep me as a customer and raise my premium. Maybe a law they can’t raise that much?
            They dropped me, they go too far.
            Get ready for yearly increases in your heath ins, I opted out.

      6. As King Solomon said “There is nothing new under the sun” I’ve added a caveat: “Just the packaging”. Just remember, if you can’t produce/contribute you will be eliminated.

        • “Just remember, if you can’t produce/contribute you will be eliminated.”
          …….you say that like it’s a bad thing. It would be nice to thin the herd of useless eaters 🙂

          • Luke Warm – not all people who do not contribute or produce anything are useless. Those would be the people who are Retired and or actually have a real disability, and most of them have contributed to the illegal system in their lifetime. A day will come, when you are old enough and you – yourself will become a useless eater, we all will in due time in the eyes of the Government.

            As is, just posting up on this site and others like it makes you an enemy of the Government, because you are not being a good obedient American that they want from you. So technically in a way, the Government does not discriminate against age, but I do understand your point of the other “useless” people you are referring to, then again. They are not completely at fault for not contributing. The Government set up a system for them that makes it easily and readily available to those who can navigate the loopholes if they choose to do so.

            • Lets get rid of govt. laws/rules and over regs that stop folks from being rewarded for producing!We had a system that hard work/good ideas rewarded would be a lot more producers out there.

            • Society is judged by how it treats it young and old. America aborts 3’000 children per day. Old go to nursing homes and forgotten.

          • @ Luke

            There is a Harvest coming alright, but I don’t long for it.

      7. It occurs to me that when you find yourself in a rigged game…stop playing. If the silver producers of the world really wanted to force price discovery, they would stop producing. The short term financial pain could be mitigated with wise planning to the benefit of the long term. Of course there would be pain, extreme pain, but you don’t mend a broken system without it. Of course, collusion among the silver producers is illegal and we all know that illegal activity within the precious metals market is strictly forbidden, except when TBTF is involved. Until then happy stacking and midnight gardening.

      8. Same old S$%T different day.
        TPTB Have told so many stories that they can’t keep anything straight, or tell the truth!

        If they told me the sky was blue and the grass was green I would check it myself just to see.

        Don’t believe a D#$N thing they say.

        The nation is in a downward spin and they are telling us this B.S. So that we won’t tear their heads off and S#$T down their throats.

        Thank God the garden is looking good, just added 6 sweet yellow pepper plants, 8 more Sweet Potato plants (given to me) I love free bees! Just put in with my corn one row of black beans and one row of rattle snake beans, along with 5 Winter squash plants. Garden now finished. I just love talking about my garden. God has really blessed it this year.

        Just picked up some more 6.8mm brass for cheap, added more silver, just put up two more 4 day food supply buckets, and just got in a bunch of dried Fruit, and dairy from Honeyville.

        Just keep prepping, WE ARE GOING TO NEED IT VERY SOON I’M AFRAID!!! Especially after all the lies and deception these clowns are throwing at us.

        A.S.M.S. N.N.B.T.E.

        • Love the rattlesnake pole beans! I won’t grow any other variety of snap bean! We are going to need eveything we can pull out of the ground or off the vine before long….

      9. well goodness me

        it would appear that the British government and the US government
        are nothing but terrorist sympathizers and supporters

        who knew ??? (well pretty much everyone)

        Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq

        h ttp://

        and the FACT that the Pentagon has been sending live anthrax all over the place for at least the last 10 years by their own admission

        we’re livin’ in the matrix baby !!!

      10. You know for sure there is no hope when there are many a person calling for the complete failure of this house of cards, in order to have some resemblance of fair play in the markets or any money institution in which the common man interacts.
        A house divided will not stand and one that is built on a foundation of lies will be swept away by the waters of truth. At least I would expect it to be.
        We can listen to the news media the prophets of doom, our politicians as they set the stage and rules.
        The only rules that will matter are the ones we make when it goes down. Then we will see which ones last.

      11. If is the biggest little word in English language. If it does reconnect silver and gold will skyrocket..

      12. Corruption and greed is easy to spot and never buried very deeply anymore. Its stink is everywhere. In misunderstood happenings look for the greed factor to help explain and clear things up. If you find any integrity left anywhere, please let us know. The warm glow of truth will help guide you to it. Like stepping from the chill of the dark into the sunshine. The sustenance of life, truth and integrity, together they afford our future. Greed and corruption not so much, as you can see.
        That is why reading this article reminded me of rooting out Dandelions. You have to dig deeper, with aggression.

      13. As long as TPTB are in control of the money there will manipulation of all types of money, gold, silver, cooper, and even paper money. There will be a day that their control will be lost and the pyramid scheme catches up to them. I hope God has mercy on them, because I don’t think the people will.
        If you look at all pyramids, sooner or later they come crashing down, This is my belief that it is going to happen soon, very soon.
        I’m firm believer in having my money in my hands, not in some funds or in a bank that only know you as a number.
        I’m just a working stiff and I can not afford gold and can only buy a very limited amount of silver a year. I put my money, what little I have, into my preppes.
        My preppes are what I would call a mixed bag of goodies.
        beans, bullets, band aids, blankets, best friends. I raise a large garden, chickens, can, dehydrate food, hunt and fish, wish I had more time for the last two!;-}.
        I hope and pray I never ever have to use my preppes, but if I do, so be it, we will not go hungry.
        So when the next big bubble burst I hope that all that is on this page are ready. Its coming and I’m afraid it will be here very soon.
        S.T.S.F.P. N. Reb.


        If I offended anyone with the discussion I had with Nathan on 6-2-15 I apologize to you. He can sure get under my skin.
        I love this country and the men and women that serve her. The politicians now that is a different story. I will not let anyone run her down. I don’t care if you have stars on your shoulders and a hallo around your head. SORRY FOR THE RANT.
        N. Reb

        • NR – I doubt you offended anybody here, I wouldn’t worry much about it. Chances are, it was Acid Etch’s buddy trolling the board. Haven’t seen that douchebag post since either —Nathan = Troll and should be treated as such from now on if he decides to post up onto this board.

          • Actually,I agreed with many of Nathans and Rebs points of view,just got a bit hot headed and some screaming.Tis a good thing,like me shooting my bow or martial training gives a release vent to blow off some anger,so,keep it up all of you.Tis easy to bypass those you disagree with or just even “change the channel”!I say a lot of things folks disagree with,tis ok,they will smarten up someday!

          • Tony,will at least try and engage all posters as Nate had some valid points,tis not first time things get hot under the collar,and yet,the forum does just fine.Hell,have even a few((ok,very few)agreed with a few of Etches posts!

        • NR, I read all of NK’s posts with interest but didn’t respond to any of them. Although he made some valid points about the system we live under and everyone being misled by media, etc., I believe he went too far in bashing the people and the country. I agree our system and government are not worth saving and we need to start over from scratch to save this land, but he went too far in attacking people. Damn he was starting to make acid look good. NR, I still believe in this country and its people who feel the same way we do. I’m still going to stand up and fight to take it back. NK has the right to his opinion, but the way he treated people on that thread was inexcusable.

          • A too, like a lively DEBATE, but some people don’t understand what a debate is. You don’t call people names or question their parental lineage. You don’t tell people to “shut your fucking mouth” because you didn’t agree with something they said, provided that what they said was civil.

            There is a vast difference between debating and using an excuse to bash people directly. Once someone attacks you with foulness, then, whatever your reply is fair game.

            I’d like to see the personal attacks taken out of our discussions here. I expect that sort of thing on msnbc, just not on shtfplan.

            We’re SUPPOSED TO BE finding common ground here to work together if we need to, not trying to drive wedges between others. I was under the impression that this site, and sites like it were created to bring people together for an exchange of ideas, and maybe even a place to find like-minded people to coop with in our struggles against—well, the rest of our world.

            In most cases, I don’t agree with “keeping your enemy closer”…I believe in stomping them out of my sphere as soon as I identify them. I don’t need no traitors waiting around my corner, for a chance to stab me in the back.

            I only need people I can TRUST.

            Everyone else is target practice.

          • We have a great form of government, the people need to replace the politicians and clean house. It starts with your county dog catcher, not the pres at the federal level. Think local.

        • @ Reb

          I have gold and silver but I’m starting to believe preps are most important.
          Food, water and cash priority, I believe gold and silver continue lower.

      14. Their cunning plan was to keep equity, real estate, and bond prices inflated until the ‘retail investor’ suckers could be conned into buying the overpriced garbage from the financial firms.

        I guess the joke is on them, because their intended victims have no money left to buy this worthless crap from them.

        Now, they’ll be maneuvering and backstabbing each other, while things collapse around them.

        Looks like Rawles books may have been a prescient documentary.

        • AC:
          I have not read Rawles Book. Please fill me in on what it said, and what is the title of the book?

          • Here is the wikipedia page for the series ( if you look hard enough, you can probably find pdfs to download for at least the first two books ).


            Short version: Massive, world-wide economic collapse – the books basically detail the scramble for survival in the aftermath.

            • AC:
              Thanks will check it out.
              S.T.S.F.P. N.Reb

      15. After everybody has refi-ed tjeir houses at nearly zero 0% percent there is no more room left to refi…again… that’s when the Property values will plunder. And the RE bubble pops again. Oh My. The banks will collapse and bank runs begin.

        • I say let them TBTF banks fail—hell, a little controlled demolition might be a good thing. Let them fall into their own foot prints…

      16. Northern Reb, I would highly recommend the Matthew Bracken Trilogy. Very plausible scenarios and hard to put down. In some ways, I feel like we’re living in one of those Bracken books now.

        • Braveheart:
          I’ll look Matthew Brackens books up, Thanks..
          S.T.S.F.P. N. Reb

      17. In a scam system how does one get along? You become part of the scam because it is too deeply ingrained and fighting against it will drain you of all of your energy. Besides, too few care enough to attempt to change it and life is too short. The white flags have risen all across America. Where it all goes from here is just like it has been going thus far in our lifetimes. Depressing for sure!

        • Which is why fighting amongst ourselves, is THE LAST thing we need to do right now. We’re all we’ve got. Let’s not allow traitors to divide us with doubt and distrust.

      18. Right now the game is rigged, but I feel the tide is turning. I think if the masses unite, TPTB might discover we want take anymore.

        • Which is exactly why they send trolls here, to try to keep us divided and fighting amongst ourselves.

          • So true. We have be 10 steps ahead of them. We have to anticipate their next move. We have to be relentless while fighting them off the same way they relentlessly prey on us and then some. They have sabotaged my family and friends in more ways than one. I want justice. I won’t rest until justice is served. It irritates me that a small group of vipers managed to put a stranglehold on the whole entire planet.

            We all fell for their lies and trickery in one way or another. It’s shameful. We can overcome, however if we can understand and pinpoint the source of this evil. It’s evasive, but it’s getting pretty evident who the real perpetrator puppet-masters are. Their days are numbered. I am just repentant that I fell for their b.s. illusions for so long.

      19. Producers misrepresented

      20. the chosenites are manipulating the metals oy vey whowhoulda thought

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