Market Veteran Warns: “Massive Shocks in the World Financial System in Coming Years”

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    There is a euphoria being enjoyed by many in the investment world and in economic circles centered around the notion that the world has recovered from the financial crisis of 2008. Stock markets in the United States have risen to all time highs. Mainstream financial experts imply this is a key indicator of economic growth, improved consumer confidence, and a return to boom times.

    But not everyone agrees. Swiss market veteran Egon Von Greyerz suggests that exactly the opposite is the case, noting that the underlying economic fundamentals all over the world are indicative of massive problems from the United States to China.

    In an interview with King World News Von Greyerz highlights his reasoning, citing numerous data points that paint a completely different picture from the one being shown to the majority of the world’s citizens.

    It surprised me to see how many of those top economists and fund managers were totally bullish on the global economy based on their view of growth in the United States.

    I also went to a conference for ultra-high net worth individuals in Singapore, and I noticed very little fear or concern about the risks in the world today.

    So this is a very dangerous time with the people who control the investment markets having very little regard for the risks and the dangers that the world is currently facing.

    We have discussed the massive risks which are present in the system and they are more ubiquitous now than ever — Japan, EU, UK, US, China, and geopolitical risks.  The financial system has the same problems today as it had in 2008, but the money printing over the last few years has achieved a calm and complacency that will lead to massive shocks in the world financial system in coming years.

    A lot of the economic indicators in the U.S. are very weak.  Retail sales are plunging, bank profits are falling, home sales are falling fast, both existing and new homes, and 56 percent of Americans have sub-prime credit today.

    Global debt is now around $275 trillion, or 385 percent of world GDP.  That’s $38,000 of debt for each and every person in the world.  Even the average American is one paycheck from bankruptcy.  So how does anyone ever believe that any of this debt could ever be repaid?  Well, it won’t be, that’s absolutely guaranteed.

    All this will lead to unprecedented money printing and hyperinflation.  Thereafter we are likely to see a deflationary collapse of the financial system.  We will certainly be looking at a very different world in coming years.

    Excerpts from full interview made available by King World News

    The notion that the global economy is in recovery and that the United States has exited the recession of 2008/2009 is a facade.

    Michael Snyder at the Economic Collapse Blog and Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform recently noted that despite the purported success of government cash infusions, America’s death rattle is growing louder as household retail brands are being absolutely pummeled by a lack of consumer spending.

    Retail store results for the 1st quarter of 2014 have been rolling in over the last week. It seems the hideous government reported retail sales results over the last six months are being confirmed by the dying bricks and mortar mega-chains. In case you missed the corporate mainstream media not reporting the facts and doing their usual positive spin, here are the absolutely dreadful headlines:

    Wal-Mart Profit Plunges By $220 Million as US Store Traffic Declines by 1.4%

    Target Profit Plunges by $80 Million, 16% Lower Than 2013, as Store Traffic Declines by 2.3%

    Sears Loses $358 Million in First Quarter as Comparable Store Sales at Sears Plunge by 7.8% and Sales at Kmart Plunge by 5.1%

    JC Penney Thrilled With Loss of Only $358 Million For the Quarter

    Kohl’s Operating Income Plunges by 17% as Comparable Sales Decline by 3.4%

    Costco Profit Declines by $84 Million as Comp Store Sales Only Increase by 2%

    Staples Profit Plunges by 44% as Sales Collapse and Closing Hundreds of Stores

    Gap Income Drops 22% as Same Store Sales Fall

    Ann Taylor Profit Crashes by 75% as Same Store Sales Fall

    American Eagle Profits Tumble 86%, Will Close 150 Stores

    Aeropostale Losses $77 Million as Sales Collapse by 12%

    Big Lots Profit Tumbles by 90% as Sales Flat & Exiting Canadian Market

    Best Buy Sales Decline by $300 Million as Margins Decline and Comparable Store Sales Decline by 1.3%

    Macy’s Profit Flat as Comparable Store Sales decline by 1.4%

    Dollar General Profit Plummets by 40% as Comp Store Sales Decline by 3.8%

    Urban Outfitters Earnings Collapse by 20% as Sales Stagnate

    McDonalds Earnings Fall by $66 Million as US Comp Sales Fall by 1.7%

    Darden Profit Collapses by 30% as Same Restaurant Sales Plunge by 5.6% and Company Selling Red Lobster

    TJX Misses Earnings Expectations as Sales & Earnings Flat

    Dick’s Misses Earnings Expectations as Golf Store Sales Plummet

    Home Depot Misses Earnings Expectations as Customer Traffic Only Rises by 2.2%

    Lowes Misses Earnings Expectations as Customer Traffic was Flat

    Of course, those headlines were never reported. I went to each earnings report and gathered the info that should have been reported by the CNBC bimbos and hacks. Anything you heard surely had a Wall Street spin attached, like the standard BETTER THAN EXPECTED.

    Those are the facts.

    Last week well known contrarian economist John Williams made two dire predictions. First, the government’s Q1 economic growth numbers would be revised downward and actually show that the economy shrank for the first three months of the year. This has now been confirmed with official revisions showing negative one percent growth.

    Second, Williams predicts that come July 30 the second quarter will verify that the United States has entered another recession, which is officially defined as two consecutive negative growth quarters.

    Once these data are released it will confirm what we’ve been warning about for many months – that there is and has been no economic recovery. The U.S. (as well as China and Europe) are about to hit the next wave of this broader depression.

    There is, as Williams noted, no way of saving the system at this point, echoing Von Greyerz’s assessment that we will soon be living in an unrecognizable world.

    It won’t all happen overnight, but a collapse is all but assured at this point.

    Those who have made the effort to get informed and taken steps to prepare for the inevitable calamity that is to come will fare much better than the 99% percent of Americans who will be totally blindsided when life as we have come to know it comes to an abrupt halt.

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      1. O/T
        Hope all here are well. We are hangin in here. Not much time to post, but I try and keep up. See allotta new contributes 🙂
        God bless y’all.

        • *contributers

          • Howdy, Outlaw. Good to hear from you. I haven’t been here as much myself lately due to some ongoing projects but I should have that remedied soon.

            • The world financial system is designed for, owned by, and works for, the Ultra Wealthy. They have nothing to fear … until they do.

              But they are not stupid either. I see them divesting top end, one of a kind, real estate for a song. They know that cash will be King in the next Great Depression.

              Changes are coming. Famine too, worldwide. War, Famine, Disease, and Death. It’s still a few years away, but it is coming. Continue to prepare.

              Ten dollar bills in number ten cans was good advice when Mushroom gave it. It applies more than ever today. Get out of Bit Coin, unless you have a business with other cash customers. Businesses can deduct their losses from accepting and speculating in Bit Coin. Individuals cannot.

              Dollars, silver, and gold for those who can afford it after their preps are in. Stocks will be worthless except in the largest of companies.

              There’s no such thing as too many guns or too much ammo. Have a gun for every personality. That way you can tell the O’Bummer Care VA Shrink in all truthfulness, that you only have one gun.

              Death to traitors. Death to the New World Order. Indict them. Execute them. Let the NWO PTB understand that eventually, they will be held accountable for their crimes against the US Constitution and the American people.

              Post it everywhere as long as the Internet is working. Never forget. Never forgive. Withhold your compassion when these pathetic excuses for human beings throw themselves upon the mercy of the People’s Court. Think justice not mercy for the lies, pain and death they have caused so many innocents to suffer.

              It’s OUR America, not theirs. Arizona has just dropped out of Common Core because the people demanded it. Engage! 🙂

              • Hooray for Arizona! And my feelings on the economic collapse are “bang a gong, get it on!” We’re not getting any younger and it gets harder to make it every year. I’d at least like to have a fighting chance to survive. What amazes me is that “They” are getting away with it while we sit here absorbing the abuse. I have nothing to offer to counter that, as I don’t know what to do, either. Voting is supposed to be the answer, but I have the nasty feeling it really doesn’t work. We’re still prepping and shutting up about it, nagging our kids to prepare and trying to pay off everything. We’re close, just need a few more months, but who knows what taxes will do or government confiscation of all monetary assets. Durango Kids idea of ten dollar bills hidden in tin cans is wonderful. He’s been suggesting it for a long time and we’re finally able to do it. Thanks!

                • This administration has manipulated the numbers to try to create the appearance of an economic recovery.

                  Rewriting History…Commerce Dept ‘revises numbers’ back to 1929

                  The new GDP methodology: What you need to know

                  U.S. economy over $500 billion larger due to “new definitions.”

                  “The Commerce Department has made changes to how it calculates gross domestic product… The U.S. government adjusted data all the way back to 1929, and other countries have or are about to make similar changes to their data.”

                  “At the same time, the government also went back and revised data for the past five years, to reflect more complete as well as additional statistics from a variety of sources, such as the Internal Revenue Service and the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

                  What’s the upshot? … the level of output is higher — $559.8 billion larger, with $526 billion of that amount due to definitional changes.”
                  http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-new-gdp-methodology-what-you-need-to-know-2013-07-31?siteid=bnbh

                  • KY Mom

                    Manipulating or otherwise cherry picking data to get the result wanted has been done for decades. About two decades ago the Food & Fuel inputs were removed from the CPI (Consumer Price Index) Inflation calculation. As they say “trash in = trash out”.

                • The economy is faltering now. Just wait until next year. The EPA is FORCING MANY COAL FIRED ELECTRICAL PLANTS TO CLOSE. Homes and businesses will have much higher electricity rates.

                  Obama told us what he planned to do…

                  Barack Obama: “Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” (January 2008)

                  Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

                  • These new EPA regulations against coal are a GREAT idea. It means that the power MONOPOLY in your neck of the woods will have to buy alternative energy from the grid: your grid, your energy as they transition to alt energy sources.

                    Who is the power monopoly? The local power company that has been raising your energy costs every year to line the pockets of their executives. It is the major coal companies and investors like Buffet and his Lionel train network.

                    I have spoken about the energy REVOLUTION WE are in right now. Solar and wind will be ubiquitous. Several firms will give you solar energy cheaper than your current cost of power from the local power company. Investigate.

                    If you can add your own solar and wind as part of your preps, adding to it every year, so that you own your energy, it will be the best investment you can make in a world of zero FED fund rates.

                    Energy storage is around the corner. make it your corner too! Control the means of production. Control the cost of your energy. Engage! 🙂

                  • dk

                    You have any links to the cheap non subsidized solar power?

                    I generated power for my entire adult life and am unaware of solar without subsidies competing with either coal or natural gas.

                  • Durango kidd,

                    “These new EPA regulations against coal are a GREAT idea.”

                    A GREAT idea for ????

                    These regulations are GREAT for the Chinese, as they can BUY coal mines (at a greatly reduced price) that the Obama EPA closes.

                    How Many Jobs Are Threatened by the EPA in YOUR District?

                    “EPA regulation has been dubbed the “war on coal,” but Heritage’s Nicolas Loris and Filip Jolevski report that “the casualties will extend well beyond the coal industry, hurting families and businesses and taking a significant toll on American manufacturing across the nation.”

                    If these regulations proceed… “by the end of 2023:

                    nearly 600,000 jobs will be lost, a family of four’s income will DROP by $1,200 per year, and aggregate gross domestic product decreases by $2.23 trillion.”

                    Heritage Foundation

                  • K2: Try Solar City. They are located in Tempe Arizona but I am sure they have distributors all over the nation. This is part of the new energy revolution that is happening. Panels have increased in efficiency while mass production has lowered the cost.

                    Several enterprising solar cell makers like Solar City (the largest) have seen the opportunity to install solar on your property for free or at least no upfront cost to you.

                    Meanwhile they will peddle the excess back to the local power company, while charging you less than retail. The long term fixed costs for solar are set for 20 years, while retail rates increase very year. Check the fine print but there are real savings to be had by the individual property owner, even while solar city makes a profit.

                    I think federal subsidies in the not too distant future will end, but solar city would not develop a business model where they couldn’t turn a profit. My understanding is that the homeowner can achieve a 12% savings over current electricity costs.

                    As always, prices and terms may vary but it is worth a look. Read the fine print. With new energy storage solutions evolving as we speak, there will be a place for wholesalers, and savings for homeowners.

                    In every crisis there is opportunity. The threat (crisis) is to the local power monopoly. The benefit (opportunity) is to the end user.

                    Make change work for you. This development is not about the Carbon Exchanges originally proposed by O’Bummer. This is a true energy revolution. Embrace it.:-)

                  • KyMom: Propaganda from the coal industry. Propaganda from the power generation lobby. Imagine the number of jobs created for installers around the country. America has a solar cell manufacturing industry. These rules will invigorate it.

                    Imagine the health cost savings and elimination of “black lung disease” among former miners.

                    Aggregate GDP will rise or mitigate these losses as these installations employ tens if not hundreds of thousands of jobs. Engineers, wood workers, garment workers, chemical workers and the employees of a host of industries had to adapt to off shoring.

                    Why not miners to solar energy?

                    Clean energy is good for everyone except big coal, big power, and big investors. The more control that Americans have over their energy sources and costs, the more independent they become. These changes are to be implemented over a long time frame. These miners would be replaced by robotic machines anyway, which are safer and more efficient.

                    Solar and wind can do for the single family homeowner, what the Internet did for democracy. Anything that empowers the [people is a good thing. Embrace it Adapt! 🙂

                  • KyMom: The Chinese do not need to buy OUR coal mines. They have as much coal or more than WE do. The energy revolution is coming to China too.

                    Solar, wind, and tidal. Imagine water turbines in the Yellow River; or along the coast. Wind turbines in North and Western China or from sea breezes in the South.

                    Change is coming. The PTB understand this; including the O&G companies. That is why they are moving to extract what hydrocarbons they can while the extraction still makes sense.

                    The economics of coal mining are changing rapidly. The new EPA Rules and their time frames coincide with those economic changes. Adapt. 🙂

                • Vicky like I have warned people here for years and I was laughed at and now here it is in your faces …….it will be YEARS and YEARS before anything happens and I may be an old man …..Forget it and get back to living because you will be too old to fight when it goes down

              • Wow DK;
                I have no problem with the content of your rant but it gets me to thinking of Dennis Hopper using the inhaler in Blue Velvet. I rather enjoy your input.

                • Solar is only practical in about one fifth of the country. The Southwest and California South of Sacramento. As for wind it is a waste. DK likes to think he is smart but he is anything but. Just like the so called miracle of ethanol which actually takes more energy to make than it delivers and results in burning food. The only real breakthrough that will matter will be some kind of safe fusion either cold or regular. Natural gas will be the best solution as long as it is available.

                  • John W; Natural gas is a good interim energy solution as are others (not ethanol). It only takes a square about fifty miles wide in the Southwest to power the energy needs of the entire United States at current solar panel efficiency ratios.

                    Wind blows all the time everywhere. Energy storage has been the problem for solar and wind. That problem has been eliminated now and new factories are under construction to build CHEAP capacitors using common elements.

                    Do your homework John. I have. 🙂

              • “There’s no such thing as too many guns or too much ammo. Have a gun for every personality.” Now you’re talking DK! Cybil comes to mind. Cheers!

                • What are ya gonna use those guns and ammo for ? Decoration ?

                  • You’ve already given up. You’re a beaten man. You’re hopeless and helpless.

                    Please, at least do one thing for patriots. Try not to infect the rest of us with your disease. We don’t need redcoats among the white hats.

                  • One more thing Richey Rich. In the Warsaw ghetto fight of WWII, there were Jewish resistance fighters and there were Jews who just marched to the trains for the last trip. Both died. The only difference was the resistance took plenty of Nazis with them when they went.

                    You, on the other hand, are ready to have your ticket punched. Have a good trip. Buh-bye…

              • Just a word or two tonight on the following helpful advice from durango kidd:

                “Death to traitors. Death to the New World Order. Indict them. Execute them. Let the NWO PTB understand that eventually, they will be held accountable for their crimes against the US Constitution and the American people.Post it everywhere as long as the Internet is working.”

                And don’t forget, as long as your printer is still functional, that you can make up HUNDREDS of large address labels with such hope-inspiring messages as RESIST or JUST REFUSE or WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT or one of the favorites that I like to share with fellow parishioners ROLL THE FUCKING GUILLOTINES. Affix these to self-serve gas pumps below the receipt slip aperture–or anywhere humans focus–to put literally hundreds of eyeballs a day on these powerful messages. If you’re caught, they peel off…big deal.

                “Never forget. Never forgive. Withhold your compassion when these pathetic excuses for human beings throw themselves upon the mercy of the People’s Court.”

                So true and the most noble expression of this timeless advice was given by Ayn Rand: “Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.”

                Go and sin no more.

          • Been reading/posting here about five years now. Been very busy changing careers and stocking the pantry. Saw this video about long term storage and applied the knowledge,
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7_cTn6YpE
            I am now feeding my chickens corn that I sealed in buckets from 2009. Grind it with a corn grinder I bought. They eat it and give me eggs 🙂
            The price of that corn has doubled since 2009. If five gallon buckets seem to be too large for storing rice, beans, corn, elbow macaroni,,,,,consider using one gallon mylar bags and oxygen inhibitors.
            Also note: Cheese packets from mac & cheese, and spice packets from beans will go bad over time, so don’t waste your mylar on those.
            Good Luck Everyone

            • I try to post only good subjects, look up black solider fly larva on youtube, I would not buy a biopod, but make my own, as I intend to do in the furture.

              Free food for different things, including chickens. just my thoughts. kevin

          • Hi Outlaw.

            This whole situation, at least where I live, is somewhat surreal. I always hear how people are losing their jobs, careers, and/or businesses, but rarely see it myself. Is it the news? Is it the editing? Is it the politics?

            I have this feeling of dread that we are about to hit bottom, but most things around me tell me otherwise. I see TV house buying shows where the people cannot wait to spend their max budgets. Why?!?! I see people at the shops and car dealers doing the same. I don’t get it and probably never will.

            So many are trying to be entertained and playing “keep up with the Joneses” that it saddens me. If you don’t keep up with them, there must be something wrong? Anyone understand that attitude? My brother once told me that most people never really get out of the “high school” mindset. They just age physically. I fear he is right.

            What we are seeing today, both in real life and in the MSM isn’t how things are really shaping up. It sure is a damn shame that the people have been turned into “sheeple” by design. When the SHTF comes along, the sheeple will vote us all into servitude whether it is legal or not.

            God help us.

            • Right you are, Stig;

              I see all the good little lemmings completely engrossed in ‘retail therapy’, too. Whilst I’m buying ‘Daily Bread’ and storage goods for hard won cash, they are piling up EBT card Cheetos and orange pop in the basket of their hoveround, and taking up a whole aisle with their Moby-butts–And, they’re too cool playing with the ‘Smart Phone’, to pay attention to the fact that they are in everyone else’s way. Can’t wait for the lights to go out on that party, except they are too big to bury, so we’ll still have to live with the stink.

              My Dad’s favourite little WWII era saying was: “Q: Where were you, when the lights went out–A: Down in the cellar eating Sauer kraut”–I’ll start fermenting the next batch in July…

              • JM

                Good One. Hahahahaha!

          • Just add Hookers and Blow like Italy as well as EBT cards, carjacking, bankster fraud and all the freebie stuff and the Gubmint will easily get their 3-4% GDP numbers. Hell we could even look stronger than China. 🙂

            • China I can assure you is scared shitless atm. If their economy tanks which is also built on massive fraud, lying and cheating will have to face the wrath of 1 billion pissed off Chinese. There will be hell to pay if the riots take off over there.

              • Rodster

                It’s for that reason alone that WWIII appears possible, this allows all nations the ability to focus their people outward rather than address internal corruption, along with population reduction.

                The other fortunate/unfortunate result is governments can throw massive amounts of money at technology that is non-war specific, which is of course governments only way to steer the economy in the direction or end state it wants to reach.

                The currant example of this is our military being heavily directed to use and advance solar, wind and hybrid power systems even though many mobile systems can currently only provide a fraction of power requirements.

                • Which is the reason why Dr, Paul Craig Roberts fears the Final War is inevitable. Just look at the US threatening China for meddling and destabilizing the Asian region. Just pray Dr. Roberts is wrong because he doesn’t rule out a nuclear conflict.

                  The USSA accusing someone else of meddling and destabilizing. 😆

                  Seriously YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP ANYMORE !

              • Rodster, anyway America could help out. In starting the roits, that is. Or would SHTF people say we need to keep our nose out of other peoples business. Trekker Out.

                • We should’ve kept our noses out of other countries’ business years ago—now it’s too damn late: our proboscis is so firmly implanted where the sun don’t shine, that we can’t extract it without losing a lot of skin off of it…

              • Rodster

                What China can’t provide for its people they will steal off their neighbors. Vietnam is looking north and thinking, “Too Boo Coo hungry Chinese”.

              • Not to minimize the very real threat that “leaders” on all sides will do the unthinkable in war-making but there is one very different factor that has, as never before in human history, changed the ballgame.

                Literally billions of human beings now share an instantaneous exchange of information over the Net that is blowing the lid off the incredible corruption, violence, hypocrisy and criminal activity ALL governments engage in world-wide.

                Yes, the brain dead still can be whipped into a frenzy over the “Iraqis” who attacked the World Trade Towers…they are hopeless and lost and should be written off. But tens of millions in developed and developing countries are NOT BUYING THE KOOL-AID that is being sold and that, my friends, is very different.

                We have a very difficult road ahead of us. I am not an optimist nor pessimist…I try to be a realist. And I think that what has been set in motion through this medium is very possibly the ultimate salvation of humankind in EVERY country, not just the good ol’ USA.

                The PTB have no earthly idea what dynamo they have energized in hundreds of millions of the world’s inhabitants in all walks of life, in all places.

                So, do I see the future as a boot stomping on a face for all time? No. I see my boot, and tens of millions of other boots, so far up the Tyrant’s ass he’s going to think his tongue is a wingtip.

                Go and sin no more.

              • I checked out that link, eppe. It’s so sad how far we have fallen as a nation.

                • We are no longer a nation. Obama has seized power and there is nothing with the current crop of clowns in the Stupid party that can be done about it. The House seems to be fine with no longer having any function or power. I want to know what they have on Boner. Sandusky maybe?

              • Lold at the tumbleweave

              • eppe, tanks man. dem pitchers be some funny chit!

                • Howdy, SmokinOkie. We do miss you around here. How’s it been going for you?

                  • Hey there braveheart. I’m staying busy training new drivers and spending as much time as possible at home with grandson going through leukemia treatment. When I’m on the road, I’m burning up my phone back to the home folks. Not much internet time.
                    He’s doing pretty well, all things considered. Most days are good and he made it through round one of chemo well. Thanks to everybody here for your well wishes and continued prayers. We have faith that, whatever happens, God will work out His plans in our family. And we know we’re not alone. Lots of others (including several here at Mac’s place) have been through great challenges or great losses. We all just keep the faith and go on…
                    I sure do miss all of y’all. Best to each of you and keep on stackin’. -okie

                    ps- Has anyone heard from JustOneGuy lately?

                  • SmokinOkie
                    I sure hope your grandson does great. The next few generations are going to need your genetics.
                    — Take Care
                    — Miss Dee Dee

                  • Smoking Okie: Google the “17 best spices” and you should find a list of spices with OUTSTANDING Orac values. These are nature’s powerful drugs against cancer.

                    Make sure your grandson gets TONNES of these to support his immune system. Purchase these at Wally World in the spice section. $3.48 a bottle where I am at.

                    Get the freeze dried ones: garlic, oregano, basil, dill, parsley, cloves, turmeric, for starters. Sprinkle these on Green Giant Broccoli and Cheese. Try egg salad with these too. Eggs have an anti-oxidant (the yellow in the yolk) that is 6,000 times more powerful than vitamin C.

                    Lots of cinnamon, coco (not chocolate), baking soda, and raw, wild honey. You can mix the coco, cinnamon, baking soda and raw honey. Add chopped almonds. He’ll think its candy. 🙂

                    You must rebuild his immune system or it can come back.

        • I can hear the rumble in the distance ……

          • Defiant.

            It’s my stomach.

            • Me no think it herd of buffalo, Kemo Sabe.

              Sound more like crazed white eye stampede

              coming from back east in Wash-ing-ton.

            • ALWAYS trust your “gut instincts”…..it will serve you well in the future which is rapidly approaching….

              I agree that all appears surreal…nothing logistically makes any sense whatsoever….there are even “bidding wars” on houses now…how can that be possible?
              I have had a few dreams recently where I am in a camp of sorts, with a few large concealed tents…and am content…I have to say that the “content” is the odd part of the dream….in my dream, “we” have been there for quite some time and are a community. More to the dream, but hesitate to offer it up to ridicule, so, suffice to say, I believe many will survive the oncoming storm….and will, indeed, be content with what they can do…
              Just a dream, perhaps, but a GOOD one for me…
              fob

          • Okie.

            Just a little heads up. My best buds was diagnosed with both hairy cell and lymphatic leukemia plus non Hodgkins lymphoma. His chemo put them all in remission quite easily. Hopefully you will have the same results although hairy cell generally comes back after a period of time. Leukemia is actually one of the more treatable cancers to have. Good luck to you.

        • But the Bottomless Money Pit of funding the Military Industrial Complex always seems to be flush with Cashola. Hundreds of Billions wasted yearly and all for nothing. And this free flow of cash and weapons to other countries and Terrorist States, all the while Americans freedoms and rights to bear arms are being stripped daily. And the American Tax Payers are on the hook for all of this financial and political scandal. Push Here for RESET!

          • Defense spending is fraction of the transfer payment racket. Your argument is non false and dishonest.

        • Gardening like crazy. Seems like we won’t get peaches this year after the winter that wouldn’t quit. Here’s for hoping the beans do well.

          • Ate our last quart of peaches last month and figured we wouldnt get any this year.
            Same w/ apricots but theyre iffy anyway. Strawberries and rhubarb are ripe now and going strong. We take what we get and put it to good use. The wife put up more than a dozen pints of strawberry jam already and theres enough left still to ripen for more jam and frozen berries put up in Foodsaver bags. Tomorrow its rhubarb butter for our biscuits and toast. She cans that in half pints. If someone don’t know, rhubarb butter is like applebutter, at least to us it is (not as dark). Elderberries and the blackberries are growing and well get enough elderberries for jam and some syrup if the birds dont get em first.

            Got most of the summer garden in now. Growing a few tomatoes just to keep the seeds going. Got the first planting of beans in. Growing some beans just to dry for seed for next year. Flowers are all blooming now and lasting longer than normal prob. from cooler temps. Went crazy w/ the basil this year and grew a dozen plants. Well make pesto butter balls to freeze for winter use.

            Lots of yard sales in these parts. Better to buy direct than pay full price at a store. Seems to me we might keep the money w/ the people and helps drag down the gdp a little more to jump start this propped up mess.

            • I will tell you folks, if you think stockpiling seeds and thinking you will all the sudden start growing a garden, you will be in shock, and most likely starve. A garden is just one more layer of your food production. This year, I built 2 raised gardens, bought cow poop soil, mixed it in, and enclosed them with chicken wire, even on the top so birds stay out. Well the cucumbers and tomatoes are growing strong, Zero pepper plants from the seeds I planted. Not sure what happened there. Broccoli about 10 Inches tall, So far radishes thin as a toothpick after 2 months, and peas, grew to 2 ft tall and for some reason the bottoms are wilting. Beans are looking good and now flowering. I water everything daily. The watermelon plants grew to 6 inches tall and stopped growing in the pods, and the onions and carrots look weak, but I will be patient. I also planted potatoes and they appear to be going strong. Looks like I made a mistake and planted some tomato plants within a chicken wire barrier, and the bees must be afraid to go through the chicken wire to pollinate the flowers cause the plants are 3+ feet tall, bloomed, and not a single tomatoes is growing whatsoever on those plants inside the wire. Outside the enclosed chicken wire they are free growing they are doing great. No animal critter seem to be attacking them, so I will from now on always plat tomatoes plants in the open. So it is good this year, I may have made some mistakes, and will be more productive next year, of what grows and what does not and how and where to plant what vegetable. You need all the tools, like a shovel, rake, hoe, water hose, string and stakes, and start building up your compost pile. And always good to tend to your garden and pull weeds. It does not look like I have any bug problems at all. That’s pretty good for Florida. My 100 Pineapple plants do well every year and are ripe in late July- Aug. Good to make the mistakes now under reasonable conditions, and not in an all out SHTF Situation. Every day work on your preps folks.

              • You’re exactly right. Not everyone can throw in some seeds and poof, out come veggies. Did you start your peppers in dirt or some kind of starting soil. Try regular dirt, they will not germinate in peat moss. Peppers take a long time to germinate, up to 4 months, and like warm temps.

                Also, if certain plants aren’t doing well, check what is growing next to them. Download a companion planting chart and check it out.
                molon labe

              • Peppers are very difficult to grow from seed. Unlike tomatoes that grow like weeds peppers are very picky and then slow to gain size. Do not let small plants set fruit. Snip them off and wait until the plant gets large.

            • Calgagus,
              Oh please how do you make Rhubarb Butter? I have a ton of Rhubarb this year and that sounds like a really good idea and a little different. Thanks in advance.
              Connie

              • Rhubarb Butter

                6 cups of rhubarb chunks, cut in 1 inch pieces
                1/2 cup water
                2-3 cups sugar (depends on your taste)
                1-2 teaspoons cinnamon, ground

                Gather up the rhubarb stalks and cut them into 1 inch pieces and toss into a stainless pot or large pan. Add water. Cover and cook very slowly until rhubarb is very soft. (Like apple butter, this could be cooked in a crock pot.)

                Once the rhubarb chunks are soft, mash the rhubarb to a spreadable consistency. If you want, you can process in a food mill. We just use a potato masher.

                Once you have a puree, add in sugar and cinnamon. Stir well. Now cook the rhubarb mixture until the water begins to evaporate and the mixture thickens. Cook to the consistency you would like (for us, we like it nice and thick).

                If you want to preserve your rhubarb butter, ladle it into prepared jars. We use half pints and get about 4 half pints per batch. Follow the standard directions for water bath canning and process half pints for 10 minutes.

                Hope you like it as much as we do. We just finished making ours and the house smells good. This job sure beats going into work.

                • Calagus,
                  Thanks so much can not wait to try.
                  Connie

        • The whole world is built on a debt bubble – we (Aussie too) borrowed to fund our lifestyle thinking the economic growth would never end. “Growth” is dependent on the consumer buying “stuff” – take away the money to buy the “stuff” and the economy hits the skids. Both our countries cant keep up the level of welfare – but if we cut it back TPTB will get voted out. That wont happen because a politicians only concern is getting re-elected and to hell with the consequences.

          Personally, I am surprised it has lasted this long and obviously it is simply because no one wants to have the economy tank on their watch so the can is kicked a bit further down the road. Just borrow some more and let someone else worry about it ……..

          Going to make the landing just that much harder though. It will be a slower decline than what a pandemic or EMP would cause so the observant prepper will see it coming and be able to ramp up the preps.

          Aussie

          • Howdy, Aussie. In the US, we’ve already witnessed budget cuts to our food stamp program and our unemployment program. Now our disability program connected to Social Security starting to run low. This is one thing I have predicted for many years even before Obama and his ilk came along. No matter how the bloody collapse takes place, it’s going to get very ugly out there everywhere. I feel we’re running out of time. I’m not so sure we’ll get thru the summer and it will be long and hot. If we’re hit by EMP or anything else, it will get out of control and will be hell on earth. Take care.

            • The 800# gorilla is medicare. I hear it will now pay for a sex change. Somehow, even though you made it to 65 without a sex change, its now considered urgent. This program will surely stay finiancially vibrant.

              • Did anybody else happen to see that “DREAM ARMY”? On univision mexican TV other days news?

                I don’t know what was said as its in spanish, but what they showed was a massive amount of Illeagles protesting in what looked like the capitol buildg or supreme ct maybe? Which ever it was it was in DC.

                Every one of this Dream army member had matching Uniforms!

                ALL wore Camo Pants, white t-shirts with their slogan of “DREAM ARMY” on Back of shirts in color of Olive drab army green. With all wearing matching reg us army style camo caps that are similar to baseball caps but have a more Military shape look to it.

                And they were marching in a long collum of two abreast side by side, makeing corner turns same as real army does…Like a Squared turn at corner…All Marching in step like a real army collum marches.

                is this a part of hobammys “private army”?…Sure looks like it to me. Every one of that Dream army of mestizos also had very stern, Mean Militant looks on their faces.

                Like they could be way more militant than the average, Ghetto dweller armys of militant negroes usually look.

                Ironic I saw NO mention of evil militias, dangerous org groups etc like when its whiteys assembled for a dc protest, when that’s All one sees or hears of.

                I guess hoards of dream army mexican illeagl militants in Camo and matching uniforms as if they are ready for War against americans is A-OK eh….Just make certain zero white folk gets any such ideas because as Real natural Born american citizens we cannot have any such white folks dressed up that way with stern militant looking attitudes assembled at any one place eh.

                Meanwhile both political parties are chompin at bit to grant amnesty to such militant illeagles.

                If neocons use a dem and repub politition of the hispanic and jewish persuasions for front men to promote amnesty, that will gain full support from most preachers, their flocks, as well as the more catholic types and priests or cardinals who will fully support the catholic brand of hispanic polititions….

                its going to be like a RE run version of the former methods of jewdeo kommie dems allied with militant negroe ghetto dwellers during the 1950 & 60’s eras were.

                just substitute Mexicans for negroes this time around. And it again will end result in 98% amnesty mexicans as Instant Life long dem voters, same as the 1960’s negroe versions ended up being.

                neocons have to be Bribed to even consider doing this crap eh…They all are far too smart to actually believe assisting dems and illeagles etc is going to result in tons of repub votes right…Yet thats precicely what repubs and various Carl Rove type “leadership” claim constantly as their reasons for doing this crap.

                All they will then need is either a Hillery or a Jeb Bush as next Prez…And Bye Bye america for ever.

              • Medicare denied in home care to my grandparents who are in their nineties. All they wanted was a little help each day getting dressed and cooking meals and running errands. Grandma can walk but is a fall risk and grandpa can’t walk and is almost deaf and can’t see much. The cuts are starting. And they are cutting where it hurts most.

                So they will pay for a sex change(???) but not in home care for those who need it!

                Oh! He is a veteran! That’s why!

                All of this is unfreaking believable!!!

        • I’m just maxed on credit.
          They extended me 50k too much and I used it like a fool.
          The bankers turned me into a slave…or I did..and fell for it.

          Remodeling the house..the wife is a Disney bitch…too expensive vacations when we should have stayed home.

          Digging out now. Paying down debt about 25k a year now.

          Hey..don’t chew me out for being a credit card sucker.
          Yes I was.
          But I’ll fix this and then I’ll keep that six figure salary I make.

          There will be some loser who will tell me how they have zero debts and live in a trailer.

          I just need a few years to dig out.

          Then time to divorce the wife and replace her fat ass with someone half her age, new sports car with cash and life the player life.

          Looking back…
          Never should have gotten married.
          Never should have bought a house.
          Should of been stacking metals for years
          and chasing tail into retirement.

          So the big correction is on going and the years ahead will rock.

          BTW.. back to stocking shelves bitches.

          I’m running your data systems. ha

      2. 80 degrees here and plenty of sunshine! Beautiful day…

        • Same here, trades blowing, 75, sunny with passing clouds,
          Right here right now i could care less what the economy is doing!

          • Kula:
            I wish we would go back to heaven (Hawaii.)
            Here in Central Illinois its 85 a little humid wind blowing a little with some rain on the way for the garden. Right now its just perfect here. I have a smile on my face with a bottle of Coke in my hand watching my dog chase birds in the yard.
            If it fell apart right now I would be still be smiling!
            A.S.M.S.
            Sgt.

            • Illinois= July, August then Winter. Enjoy the few days you have Bro.

            • Nothing is perfect in Central Illinois,
              including Peoria !
              Maybe once a year, when the Corn is as High as an Elephants Eye, only thing is that is Oklahoma. Ok LA HO MA.
              Now here in Virginia. We had a perfect day.

              • PCS, worked at Cat once upon a time, building HH. Got out of that State the same year the FOID card went into effect. Freedom lies West of the Mississippi River, that is if you don’t go to far West. Trekker Out.

            • We gotta count our blessings while they are so obvious Brother.

          • I Forgot to mention: For all the Tea party types who so Promoted Rand Paul for KY’s us senator….The latest version of a Tea party “Darling”…For great color photos of Rand at some Israel yeshiva School, thats where they study nothing but Talmud, I think it is.

            Rand is shown in the middle between Two jewish Escorts, each wearing their usual skull caps, inside what appears to be a huge library type room filled with school like desks, and more skull cap wearing talmud students all adults aged at aprox 30-50 yrs old avg.

            Rand again seems Very Happy to be amoung his best ever funding agents and vote getters. Even a more Happy appearing Rand than last years photos and yutube videos of Rand wearing his Own skull cap, banging his noggin against that wailer wall when he first visited to “Pass Inspections” of a dozen Rabbis and a dozen Political israel officials before he was able to actually get elected.

            How Many now or what Number is rand paul in the ever growing Long list of tea party supported Darling candadits that were supposed to be such swell Pro const and pro usa guys we can all vote for?…If my count is correct so far that main number is aprox….100% turned out Traitorous!

            Rand, Rubio, Chaz, and the rest…Fooled again eh folks.

            Anyone intrested in seeing rands latest color photo of him attending a visit to jewish Talmudic HQ Yeshiva school, can go to www dot realjewnews dot com Also can Read article photo goes with, a scathing report of Rands traitorus affairs since he went off reservation, with all them Rabbis etc….Should be an interesting still 4 yrs to go since hes elected a full 6 yr term eh!

            What a huge difference from Ron to Rand no…

            Okay everyone Back to the head bangers Ball in israel with neocon repubs, dem libs dancing to the rabbis tunes at the infamous wailers wall…2% pop now controls 100% of america. Same as they did in Russia and Germany prior to america…Outcome should be similar also eh…Many millions dead whiteys and christians.

            • Amos 9:14, 15 (where God promises to return HIS PEOPLE to their land. Some don’t believe God can do it!)

              And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.

              15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.

        • It’s 69 here in eastern NC. It’s supposed to go down to 49 tonight.

          I planted a row of Homestead tomato plants yesterday. They are determinate, meaning they should have a lot of tomatoes all at once. My wife wants to can tomatoes since we use so many.

          • Sadly I had to leave NE NC 2 yrs ago. Chowan, Camden, Pasquotank counties have superb farm land, and something those out west sure wish they had: plenty of water/rain.

          • Wow! It’s down to 50 here at 11pm in SE Virginia after a perfectly beautiful day.

          • Always plant at least one Early Girl. When all else fails they will come through. Already getting ripe ones. ACE 55 is one of the better determinate types. Celebrity has never done well for me. Use Dr.Earth or EB Stone fertilizers. You will be amazed how much better results you get compared to chemical fertilizers.

        • Sounds like Global Warming to me. Better send in check for some carbon credits….

          • Ugly:
            I did, and I’m charging them for my CO2. I live next to a state park and the trees are using my CO2 to make O2 for me to breath. I give them more CO2 that I use in O2.
            Ho no that was Methane Gas. OOPPSS.
            Sgt.

          • Just how stupid can Man be. What’s that saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? Man and his fossil fuel and carbon creating machines have already destroyed to previous Ice Ages. And here we go again. My frig can’t even keep up making ice cubes. Trekker Out.

            • Remember how man made global warming melted all of that ice in the past two ice ages?

              • Sure. I was a young’un then…used to run long-necks out around Saragossa…

          • Global warming has caused Much ICE to still remain in the Great lakes regions!….That last auto-generated weather alerts I get in emails, which included a White house Global warming Alert last week, that stated “Whitehouse Issues new Global warming ALERT!…Temps due to global warming all over the world are getting….Warmer….AND…COOLER!

            When they cant win with warm OR cold fears?…just combine them into one Alert of BOTH right folks!

      3. The biggest issue in my mind is the dollar’s loss of reserve currency status. Obama is forcing Russia to find ways to trade outside the dollar. They’re working with China and the other BRICS do just that. Also, Russia is working on energy agreements with NATO members like Germany to have payments in euros instead of dollars. When the rest of the world abandons the dollar, trillions of dollars will hit the US economy. Jim Willie expects a couple of 35% dollar devaluations to occur. Other people like John Williams expect the dollar to go to zero. I expect that too due to all the money printing by the Fed.

        John Williams also predicts panic selling of the dollar by the end of the second quarter of 2014, meaning by June 30th. He originally predicted hyperinflation by the end of this decade but kept moving his prediction closer. Even if panic selling of the dollar doesn’t start by June 30th I still think that the amount of time we have left is very short.

        • Barncat, I agree we’re running out of time but it remains to be seen on the time frame. My prepping is continuing and I hope everyone else’s is too.

          • I will continue prepping even if there isn’t a disaster on the horizon—because it’s what I do. It’s who I’ve always been. It’s who I will always be.

        • Barn Cat,
          It’s not only the massive amounts of fiat dollars being printed which will devalue the dollar to zero –

          The other side of the coin is the ocean of dollars which will come like a tidal wave to America once the world stops trading in dollars.

          I expect to see $10000/gal gasoline, $10000/gal milk, $10000 bread – for starters!

          Prep of the day – powdered milk!

      4. It is also being report that US food inflation is running about 22 per cent. Our J.C. Penney’s closed in my city.

        This article is just preaching to the choir here. Most of the people who come here have already seen the writing on the wall.

        Speaking for myself, I would not be invested in The market. The crash will happen over night and without warning. I left in 1998.

        A few years ago, North Koreans went to bed one night using one currency and awaken the next morning to a new government issued currency and found that their savings devalued more than 1/2 if not more.
        Still speaking for my self. I am in no way expecting a major rebound in our economy. I am expecting a major disruption in our way of life in all areas.

        It is far more serious than what we are being told and most of us that comes to this site know that.

        Anyone who comes to this site on a regular basis should not be caught unaware. There is no recovery. That is only said to keep people in the market investing, until the day the plug is pulled.

        This how I personally feel about our economic situation in the country.

      5. I know some of the people who will be “blindsided”. Tried to warn them and mocked me as if I were making it up. They will see that I was not.

        • This Texan Has Had Enough

          I dont bother to try any more remember total waste of time. I plan on TCOB & prepping when they say “why didnt someone warn me” I will just smile & walk away.

          Ya cant fix STUPID

          and being stupid should be painful & when this goes TU & it will you wont have to say a thing.

          • Da Yooper- I gave each person two chances to listen to the truth about what was happening and if they did not, I gave up on them. How true you can’t fix stupid! I may smile to myself for a while before I do it to their faces when they ask “Why didn’t somebody tell me?”

            • Texan and Da Yooper, I quit trying to tell people a few years back. ALL nonpreppers will be blindsided when it finally collapses. They’re in for the shock of their lives. right on about not being able to fix stupid.

            • When I tried to warn people they promptly invited their families over for some unoffered charity. I quickly corrected their unrealistic expectations. If you have been warned, and chose not to act, you and yours suffer the consequences. I will not take food out of my families mouth to feed yours.

              • This Texan, swinging Richard, braveheart, Da Yooper …..

                We all know some ostriches with their heads in the sand (or up their …….) and it is so true you cant fix stupid. I know some like minded people who are quietly hoping for the best but prepping for the worst. These are the kind of people who will likely survive the die off and have the skills to start the rebuild.

                If “it” is a slowish meltdown there are some who will see the end game with clarity and who might belatedly start preparing and who may still prove useful after the reset. But if it goes belly up in a big hurry no one – I repeat NO ONE will be getting or taking anything from me, my 2 kids and one grandkid and reducing our chances of survival. Not while I am alive anyway …..

                Aussie

                • Aussie, anyone who is prepping to any degree will have the best chance of survival. Eventually it will go belly up; still don’t know whether it will be slow or fast. Regardless of how it happens, NO DAMNED BODY will take anything from me or mine unless they can neutralize me first.

            • The problem I have when I try to talk to my friends about having “a little extra” is that they say they will just come to my house… I tell them not to bother because I only have enough for my family for a couple of weeks.

              Why the hell would I feed their families when I have been stocking for years and planting fruit trees and gardening while they have been off taking vacations to Hawaii and everywhere else across the nation. Fuck em. I hope I won’t have to tell them that one day.

              Even if there isn’t a collapse The rice I bought yesterday is a lot cheaper than the rice I will buy tomorrow. If that isn’t a good enough reason to stock I don’t know what is.

              • True story—Half of my blood relatives are worse than the damn zombies. I’ve got a brother who is a thief, a drugged-up felon who thinks it’s okay to take whatever he wants, by force if necessary. I hold no illusions about that fact. I have no doubts that he’d come for me if he could.

                He is the reason why not one of my family knows where I am, and haven’t for years. I have literally disowned them. I’ve come to realize that I’m much safer on my own.

                Imagine me mottling my way clear of a sea of zombies, only to be strong-armed by my own brother…it ain’t gonna happen. I keep track of “bro” so I know whether he’s in prison or out on the loose, but I never try to contact him.

                Maybe that’s why I like it here on SHTF. You guys are closer to “family” than mine ever has been. But don’t feel bad for me—this has made me harder and more determined, and because of that, I’ll have a good shot at making it out the other side.

                Some things just can’t be fixed.

                • Hey Six, Sometimes the adversity makes us better people, it seems like it has for you. Keep your head up, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

          • Da Yooper- I gave each person two chances to listen to the truth about what was happening and if they did not, I gave up on them. How true you can’t fix stupid! I may smile to myself for a while before I do it to their faces when they ask “Why didn’t somebody tell me?”

            • I have try for Years to get all my brothers to understand what I have been reading. No luck they just think I am spending to much time listening to fools. Make me sad.

        • They worship lesbians like Hillary.

        • Sometimes you gotta just let go. Been there done that…now when it happens who will they seek first?

      6. I can tell you how long we have. Till the manipulations, smoke and mirrors don’t work anymore. When every trick in the financial book has been played, we will have a US dollar. Then it will fall apart, and a new currency will take over. No date, no year, because they will use every trick in the book to keep it going….

      7. Been hearing this for how long?!?!? Getting pretty dam old. How about getting back to HELPING people instead of the constant SCARING of them???

        OH NO THE SKY IS FALLING, or IT WILL SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE….AGAIN….the same as yesterday and the day before and….

        • Definitely not much of a life if someone is always in fear of something happening,,,
          Better to smell the jasmine while we can!

        • CB

          I think of it as more the boy who cried wolf, but eventually the wolf shows up and eats the boy because he lacked the foresight of how his previous cry’s negatively affected the town’s folk desire to help.

          Chicken Little as I recall was somewhat of a hysterical idiot, with the moral of the story being “don’t believe everything you hear.” Of course the Fox inviting them all to his den for safety and eating them could be compared to FEMA?

          Just having fun, agree we must keep things in perspective.

        • @CB…All I have to suggest is to “get back to the basics”…follow your own instincts and do what it is YOU feel YOU need to do….it really is quite simple. Follow your head and heart…help those you can, but help yourself first, for if YOU are gone, how can you continue help others? You need not listen to all the “gloom and doom predictions”, but be aware of what some people have to say and apply it to your world….things may be far different for those in different parts of the Country….Who Knows? No One. That is what creates the angst….NOT KNOWING….when, where, how, what, etc…
          fob

      8. “It won’t all happen overnight, but a collapse is all but assured at this point.”

        I’m going out on a limb here…

        Halloween or 7/11/14…(day month year)…

        It all depends upon the polls. 🙂

        • jerrytbg-I am thinking it will for sure be before the November elections.

          • when you consider winter coming about that time…

            What will people do for comfort… capitulation…

            Sad but inevitable… They are pure evil!

          • Texan, I’ll be surprised if we still have elections this year.

        • “Halloween or 7/11/14…(day month year)”

          agree with the time of year. Odds are good for this fall but

          fall of 15 with winter going into 16 which is major election year is where I am also looking. As the economy drifts downward from here 15 going into 16 dollar in question & maybe a war just before the election as an excuse for someone to try to be emperor.

          • The best part of your timeline is we have more time to prep… 🙂

            • only if you can afford to prep

              real inflation is coming

              you think food has gone up already

              just wait you aint seen nothing

              • Agreed…but it will give us another growing season…
                I hope your timeline is right…

                In either case,I’m about to go in on fishy & veggie ponics…
                Should prove to be interesting and nutritious… 🙂

                Godspeed…

              • Da Yooper,

                The price of beef is already starting
                to sky rocket along with other essential grocery items.
                I fear you’re correct in that it’s only going to get
                worse.

        • October 6, 2014….

      9. Ovation Guitars just closed their last US manufacturing facility and laid off the employees so they can build the guitars completely offshore. The world is going good, there’s lots of money to be made here in the USA, everyone has discretionary dollars to pursue their hobbies and passions…….not.

        Bad economic news is good news for the stock market and the government bureaucracy. It means continued QE and low interest rates and a widening gap between the filthy rich and the riffraff. The government class get’s to see their taxpayer funded wall street invested retirement accounts grow grow grow, while the rest of the world eats cake.

        • Not only what you mention, I see that they have begun to set up a ” Bail out the Obamacare ” legislation . That did not take long . Guess we’ll have to pass it so we can read it.
          Take Care,
          — Miss Dee Dee

        • RickinOregon, soon the world will run out of cake and that’s when TSHTF. Everyone prepare for it. It’s not going to be nice.

      10. They are idiots if “they” think it’s going to take years, months is more like it. TPTB wants everyone to think that everything is just fine in “la-la” land.

        • Greetings Confederate –

          The foreclosure signs have started going up again in neighborhoods near my house ….. lots of them.

          Without a thriving middle class buying houses, cars, clothes and other ‘stuff’, our consumer driven economy slowly dies.

          This large and prosperous middle class also acted as a buffer between the poor and the elites. Oops!!! Things not working out the way that you intended them to Mr. & Mrs. Elite?? Damn!!! I simply hate it when that happens!!!!!

          • @ MM, Things are going to get interesting. Here in FL house sales have increased a little, still a lot of forclosures, unemployment is around 6.3% fast food and other service related positions are the norm. Employers know they are in control and lord it over you. People are becoming more and more rude, especially when driving, prices keep going up, tomorrow the third, prices will be up at 3%, it just keeps going, going, going . . . .

        • I think that after the elections this year if the republicans manage to get elected(by design) all bets are off and QE will be stopped and it will all come crashing down.

          Just so the dems can say ” its the republicans fault”. IMHO

          • I hate to blow a hole in your theory but it’s already an established historical fact that it’s Bush’s fault. Where have you been the past six years? just joking around with you.

            • I sure wish I had somebody like Bush whom I could hide behind and who would take the blame for every decision I personally made, while I actively creating havoc on the world…don’t you?

      11. WHY IT’S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND ENGLISH

        When I got back from Vancouver last month I had a bunch of Canadian
        dollars I needed to exchange, so I went to the currency exchange window
        at the local bank. It was a short line, just one guy in front of
        me…an Asian guy who was trying to exchange yen for dollars and he was
        a little Irritated!

        He asked the teller, “Why it change?? Yestoday, I get two huna dolla of
        Yen. Today I get huna eighty?? Why it change?”

        The teller shrugged her shoulders and said, “Fluctuations”.

        The Asian guy says, “Fluc you white people too.

        • Eppe, just keep it coming. There’s no better humor than yours.

        • keep ’em comin’, eppe, that was a great one!

        • And that is how it should be between all of us!! I remember the polack and Irish jokes while some old Italian friends tell me that they had their day.

          I think the only way anyone actually feels someone is racist is when they subconsciously don’t like themselves. That I cannot understand but it seems to be the reason. LGBT, Blacks and sometimes hispanic (not a race even) think it is fighting words when someone doesn’t love them. Damned shame!!

        • Eppe,
          That has to be about the 100th time you made me smile.
          Thank You,
          — Miss Dee Dee

        • Muahahaha !! That was a good one !

        • thanks Eppe, i needed that.

          after reading lines like these…

          we will soon be living in an unrecognizable world.
          99% percent of Americans will be totally blindsided when life as we have come to know it comes to an abrupt halt.
          ect…

        • Wanna hear something silly? I read that yesterday afternoon, and didn’t get it til just NOW! Keep em coming Eppe! You are a gem!

      12. Off Topic: Dave Hodges site has been taken down and serious death threats have been given….hmmm….you think he was on to something? Actually, a few somethings?

        Please pray for his safety…

        PKLL

        • Yes. Death threats against Patriot Dave Hodges. One of his most recent columns was about a potential false flag, a la 9/11 and OKC, nuclear bomb in Chicago.

          If that ever happens, the New World Order game is in high gear and martial law occurs.

          Pray for Dave

          • nuke chicago? hell, i’ll send ’em a box of chocalates if they DO!

      13. well at least you poor people wont have to worry about your leaders, corporations or the rich because they will take enough from you to survive themselves, and if you haven’t figured out by now that they don’t care about you stay in lala land

      14. and i have also predicted VERY bad things will happen to US because of all the money that can’t be paid BACK. but we only had a 50% stock market correction, and shooting back up like a rocket SINCE then. all the while, i been SHORT the market….some day, it will all come home to roost. we ARE on BORROWED time! we borrowed 29 TRILLION from the fed and shored up a STILL bankrupt system. if we had let the banks eat their cooking 8 years ago, we would be past this by now….but we did what we did and now it’s EXPONENTIALLY WORSE!….and there’s the rub, with these boneheads who will say “yeah, yeah, we been hearing this crap for YEARS, we aint SKEERED”….all the while they been talkin’ their shit, it gets WORSE! and it’s gonna KEEP gettin’ worse until we FIX IT, which will require a revolution, now that we let it get SO BAD. hope you muffinhuggers got POPCORN and a good seat to watch it all from….meanwhile, PARTY LIKE IT’S 1941!

        • And then live like it’s 1899.

          • hell, they had electric LIGHTS in 1899!…i think yuh gotta go back a couple MORE years, barnycat.

            • Tonight we’re gonna party like it’s 1776!

            • Very few people had electricity in 1899.

              • granted,….the one percent, no doubt!

      15. I would expect all of these retailers whose sales have and are falling to lower their prices and profit margins. Is that too much to expect in this lousy economy for the majority? ” If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state”. This quote by Joseph Goebbels, Reich Minister of Prropaganda in Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945 sums up who we are dealing with. This also describes 9-11 and other false flags and most of what comes out of government mouths.

        • That won’t work. The problem is that customers don’t have the money to buy the things they used to buy.

      16. JUST IN !!!! Water found to be “wet” !!!

        • Are you sure? I used to think the same thing about rum, until I read an article about powdered alcohol…just ADD water. http://www.palcohol.com/

      17. There is no financial distress or no store closures and employment is just fine.

        All this doom and gloom is in your heads.

        The Republican Party has sent me a survey of what I thought was needed to turn the country around.

        FIVE FUCKING years of Obama and they have not figured it out. Banking and the assault on the Constitution.

        I am Voting Hillary to hammer it home.
        Oh they wanted money too.

        • Make sure you let the Republican Party know that Zionist influence is the most pressing problem in America. They need to know many of us are now “awake”.

          • RT TV News has an new upcomming documentary thats going to focus on the terrible evil plight of the Palestinians daily affecting their lives etc…This includes many Christian palestinians also. Christians Terrorized BY israeli IDF and israel citizens which is fully Funded By USA Tax payer Christians of that jewdeo christian zio persuasion…Christians Funding demise of fellow christians…

            But of course as long as its a jewish terrorist activity it matters NOT to most usa christian folks eh.

            Yutube also has a few good videos of terroristic attacks against Dirt Poor palestinains and christians for further proof.

            Why is it so racist and seperatists when white folks in usa say they rather see a less multicultic america, yet the same americans have ZERO problems with Israel?…Israel is demanding the worlds nations only call israel a “Jewish State” and is currently housing Black african jews in walled Prisons, while they await Deprotation soon as israel officials can locate a nation who will take them black jews in…

            The Most racist Rabid aperthide nation state globally= Israel…the Master race talmudic imposters of edomite origins..Khazars. Funded Massivly by usa christian church groups to keep terroizing fellow christians!

            Only in america folks! Where abject denail of real truth runs rampant amoung most christian churches today.

            No wonder so many globally laugh at christianity huh! If one can even stand a full 5 minits viewing tv TBN shows daily, one can find the answer to why that is so.

            TBN=Lunatics, zionist ass lickers, jew firsters, and dumbed down foolish americans…No wonder Hagee et al has their church-circus shows on TBN stations.

            Make that Vow folks! Plant that Seed! send us CASH Galore! and God promices to Increase that cash seed a Thousand fold!

            Cut to commercial: Daz rites folks I jez donated ten grand cash! and in less den one weak timez I jez looks in da mailz box and Holy Crapolaz! I seez a check fo two Millionz ob dollarz now I kin pazs off ma dopey dealerz so he dont whackz me and ma chillinz. Praise dat TBN preachermenz fo my prostertiz! I bez Rich!

            • Them Guys: Answer me this?

              Is Jesus Christ your Lord and personal savior?

              Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins, rose again on the third day and now sits at the right hand of God?

              Two simple questions….yes or no.

              PKLL

              • You have to do more than believe. You have to ACCEPT what Jesus did on the cross as payment for your sins. And you have to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.

            • Thank God for Israel and Christian Zionists!

              • If you really knew God you wouldn’t hate the Jews.

          • Yes, I’m sure that Satan has awakened you to hatred for the Jews.

        • Nothing going to happen. Look at the thumbs. Almost equal. Just like the whole country.

          Need more Mexicans.

          • Slingshot is there any Mexican Jews? Pedro said no, there’s tomato jews, orange jews and prune jews, but there is no mexican jews.

            • MT.

              Glad you asked.

              I have read so much about the Jews that I think I will become one. No,no wait! I am going to become a Black Jew.

              Hello, Sammy Davis Jr.

      18. If it is coming so be it. I’m ready I’m just tired of hearing its coming and nothing happens.
        Silver is down and is a good time to buy!!!
        The wife just bought a ton of canned vegies that was on sale. Just added around another month supply to the food pantry.
        The young squirrels are showing up around the area, and if each doe had one fawn I’m going to have a lot of deer this year. The garden is looking good. The Good Lord has watch over us so far. I pray he keeps it up.

        Worked 3-11 on 05/31/14 most of the bars in town had less than two or three cars there. I was told business was down over 40%. The restaurant my wife works at part time said carry outs are down 50% and business is off around 25%. Things are a lot worse than we think. I guess that is why we are preppers!
        Aim Small Miss Small
        Sgt.

        • Howdy, Sarge. I’m not here as much lately due to some ongoing projects which I hope to have wrapped up soon. what you just described where you live is already happening to some degree here and I’m in a concrete jungle! No wonder I’m a prepper and I’m glad for it.

          • R.B.
            I haven’t been here either. working more hours at the P.D. other guys calling off. Working in the yard, Garden, Training a young lady how to shoot a handgun.

            Next month if the Good Lord is will I’m going down to one of my BOL’s in the Ozarks to work on some things.
            Still looking at the land in Tenn. Found two trying to get the price down some.
            Good luck with your projects my Brother.
            AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
            Sgt.

        • I too am tired of waiting for the collapse but we do know it’s coming. So….what we have been doing is gathering as many supplies as we can afford with the time we have left. Our garden is small since we are urban city dwellers but we do have something. Yes, silver is being mashed down so now is the time to unload those worthless FIAT dollars and get real, tangible money. I can afford little these days but I did manage to acquire five ounces of silver yesterday.
          I just got back from a trip to the local shopping mall and saw very little traffic. Many of the stores here have gone out of business but the restaurants are booming. Our daughter works at a nearby restaurant and people cannot wait to get in in the mornings and pile up outside the doors before opening time. It makes no sense to me but it is what it is. Keep prepping as much as possible while there is still time.

          • J.H.
            I was in Wally World the other day getting an anniversary card for my wife. (19 great years)
            Wally World was empty.
            Good luck with the garden!
            Sgt.

          • Jack Hammer

            Can’t eat those iPods and 60 in. T.V.’s. Change in spending habits.

        • Sgt

          I haven’t noticed things like that. I quit going to bars in the nineties, and I know how to cook, so I don’t go out to eat often. During the day, I see the opposite, but it is nice to hear from someone who notices things like that.

          • Stig’s
            I don’t go to bars either. I just know when the bars are not full on the week ends the economy is in a world of S#$t. Even the folks on food stamps are not going there either. that is where most of them live.
            Stay safe.
            A.S.M.S.
            sgt.

        • Sgt. Dale

          I just talked with my coin dealer friend.

          He says sales are down 45% from last year.

          Travels every where east of the Mississippi

          and it’s the same story with all the other

          dealers too.

          In general, he says it’s a jungle out there.

          • Defiant:
            This is still a very good time to buy silver.
            I’m going to one of my BOL to work on it. I will see what it is like in that are. (West of the Mississippi River).
            What I’m hearing from some of the folks there is things are dragging down to a stop. They tell me they are working more and more hours but not getting any where.
            A.S.M.S.
            Sgt.

          • This is what happens when a tank of gasoline costs $75, and a sack of groceries is $50, month after month, year after year. Our discretionary income is gone or much reduced.

      19. Got to cover your own butts,nobody else will or can. hunker down,stock up and lock and load. Anybody that looks around them will see the devastation,stores with no customers,banks with money but won’t lend,the government stocking up for civil disturbances they know are coming and no jobs worth having or that can support people. Like a rock thrown in water this will expand outward to the rest of the planet if it doesn’t happen somewhere else first. Back splash!

      20. The problem is that this collapse could take many years more to unfold.
        Beating a constant drum of “collapse” only discredits valid points that have already been made years ago.
        This corrupt game could easily go on for another 10 years.
        Since the media and behind the scenes elites have already selected Hillary as the next President, the plan is quite clear to simply continue business as usual.
        It will only end when they want it to end.

        • I just don’t see it. There are all kinds of reasons but here’s just one:

          According to Jim Willie,

          Saudi Arabia is about to announce that they will accept other currencies as payment for oil.

          • The Democrats have some mighty difficult “splainin” to do, about why they’ve reduced this once-great country to a weak laughingstock.

      21. Off Topic, but Fox News just put up a story about an FBI raid on an apartment in San Fran. Seems the young man had a large supply of ricin. Friends described him as a “political junkie”. One of the comments on the article said his Facebook page described him as very liberal and a BHO supporter. The whole story sounded fishy, like an FBI entrapment or false flag, but at least the didn’t blame a right wing, Christian, conservative gun owner, at least yet.

      22. Ya kno’, I cain’t even spel EKONOMIST and I cudda made the same predicshun.

        Ya reckon?

      23. a fast crash is something that might never happen

        a slow crash is a 100% certainty
        at least if your in the middle class

        we’re living it every day

        and personally speaking
        I fully expect the pace to pick up a bit
        especially as more and more constraints happen
        with energy,water and food supplies

        • well, it’s a good thing all we got to worry about is food, water, and shelter! i feel a lot better now.

          • I started feeling positive on the very day I gave up on Hope….

      24. Just keep in mind folks, the last buck stops in Amerika.

        Europe will fail first, then Amerika as all of Amerika’s debt “electronically wire transfers/returns” in the trillions to Amerika shores.

        Asia will solidify under the BRIC’S gold backed Yuan and Ruble and the BRIC’S will TAKE OVER THE GLOBAL ECONOMY as they are firmly entrenched in the new developing markets in their own and developing countries in Africa and South America.

        You Amerikans will lose 40% of the value of your retirement stock portfolio, savings and purchasing power.

        Only purchasing investing in precious metals physical gold and silver will help you keep the current value of your life savings.

        I though firmly believe a very destructive nuclear Zionist False Flag on Amerikan soil and World War III(3) will be kicked off before the white european Zionist Fascist Banker Oligarchy give up their 100 year old strangle hold on the global economy to the Russians and Chinese.

        buy your preps, body armor, weapons and ammo first, then invest in your future with physical precious metals.

        * hint: buy your land after the crash, with your precious metals. it’s what the “hilton family” did during the great depression, they actually went bankrupt doing it, taking out multiple loans and still made out like bandits in the end. after the crash property values will drop by 30% to 50% depending upon the area and type of land.

        * hint: we still have a few more years of waiting. so don’t freak out just yet. years 2016-2020 is the window i believe things will get ugly here in Amerika. till then i’m chillin’ like a villain.

          • J.S.
            An other FALSE FLAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Sgt.

            • sgt dale

              yep looks that way doesn’t it. the NWO/Feds are going to keep killing innocent defenseless Americans and children till they get all your guns and ammo, and lock up those patriotic American veterans who might stand up against them.

              this is going to end only one way…

              Main Streets awash in Spilled Blood and high civilian death counts in the cities and towns across Amerika, a Revolutionary War is coming to Amerika.

              those that resist the NWO ZIONISTS will be terminated with extreme prejudice.

              there is no escaping it… THIS WILL END ONLY ONE WAY.

              BLOODY REVOLUTION!

              • Thats why several articles aprox a year ago, maybe a bit longer ago, said that of all the cash grants provided by DHS, TO, NON governmental orgs or non profits etc went to…Jewish Synagouges and various non profit jewish orgs…A FULL 97% at least each year DHS has made such grants availabe….Articles went on to stats that most was spent on Steel entry doors, Bulletproofed Windows, and other type protections from terroristic activity.

                Less than 2% of usa POP recieves a whopping 97% of DHS funds that tax payers aree liable for!

                DHS’s total Cash grants per year have averaged around $200 MILLION per year!…They get 97% of that cash grants.

                this is more proof the zionists will never halt their Master race global Jwo controls quest…They think hardened seurity is going to do the trick in protecting them when enough Real americans wake up! Oy Veh!

                • The Messiah: Jewish
                  The Apostles: Jewish
                  The Holy Bible: Written by Jews

                  • I expect to see Ezekiel 38 and 39 fulfilled soon. God himself will supernaturally protect Israel from a multinational attack that could include the US. Afterwards God says,

                    (Ezekiel 39:6-7 NIV) I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the LORD. {7} “‘I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am the Holy One in Israel.

                  • Barn Cat, I also expect to see Gog/Persia etc move against Israel sometime soon. When we see an alliance – led by Russia – invading Israel from its northern borders, look out – because sometime during that same battle, God will “send a fire” on Magog and the inhabitants of “the isles”.

                    Every scholar I have ever read says that “the isles” refers to “the continents”.

        • I don’t think we have 2-6 years of the market going up. It looks like it’s ready to take a downturn this year. They are cyclic of course. And when it does crash, expect to see at least a few million more Americans out of work.

          This could lead to civil unrest and crash.

          • sigh, if you do your homework on previous crashes you will see a pattern of years of up and down head and shoulder moves in the markets. when they finally do stop injecting Q.E. quantitative easing 60 billion dollars every month into the fed money pipeline,

            falsifying juicing propping up Wall Street market, a hundred other foreign banks and countries governments and stop falsely reporting fraudulent low ball precious metals prices and stocks there will be an adjustment across the board,

            a very shocking downward correction over a few years on the dollar, stocks, bonds and commodities.

            precious metals will sky rocket.

            they will do this intentionally and try to control the crash and markets yoyo downward spiral corrections as it it is finally allowed to follow it’s natural course and crash.

            this will take years before it bottoms out and flat lines.

            • Those previous head and shoulders were without the Feds QE being injected into the market through the banks..

            • I was at a financial talk the other day. The guy said we usually have a 10% correction once a year. We’re overdue since 2011.

      25. So what’s in ŸÖÜR wallet? Monopoly money, chances are. Pump & dump. Milk & bilk. Medicate & [un]educate. Sad state of affairs.

      26. The problem with stores like Staples is that they sell pencils, pens, books, paper, calculators, and thesauruses….shit, who uses those anymore….

        • Everyone will soon. That’s why I’m stocked up with paper, pencils, pens, ink, and mechanical pencil leads.

          • Thanks for that, Archivist; don’t forget crayons and coloring books!!
            TV will be history! 🙁

            • And puzzles….

            • I don’t have kids, but we still have a stockpile of good Crayola crayons, especially the big boxes with all the colors, coloring pencils, pastels, watercolors, and brushes. We also have a thousand or more children’s books.

              You can download free coloring sheets from the internet. There is a children’s author, Jan Brett, who has a wonderful site with coloring pages and other projects for children. Her site is janbrett (dot) com. I have downloaded her entire site in the past. That would be a good future resource for home school.

      27. The best way to elevate our USA economy is to lower our goals. You see, if you lower your goals then you will reach more of them. For example, let say you are a high jumper and keep missing the 6 foot bar. Problem solved! Lower the bar to 3 feet and you will succeed more often….

        • Ugly

          I agree 100%. Once upon a time in the not too distance past the US compared itself to first rate nations like those in northern Europe. We now compare ourself to the third world and pat ourselves on the back with saying, “Poor? Our poor? Hell you should see the poor in India”.

          “If you want to look young and thin hang out with oil fat people”.

          • oops old not oil.

            Too much geo-politics on my mind.

        • ugly
          that makes a LOT of sense, when we don’t stop and THINK about it….

          • Buttcrack & Kevin2.

            Yes, more goals will be reached if we just lower them. Today, I was going to jog 5 miles. But I did not feel good, so I lowered my goal to 1 mile. I jogged 1.50 miles, thus I have achieved another goal.

            A beer drinker may say, ‘ I was going to drink 10 beers, but I only drank 8, thus I reduced consumption by 2 beers’….

            Or, the US Govt could say that this year we only spent 20 trillion, but we could have spent 50 trillion, thus we saved you folks 30 trillion (abbot and Costello?)….

            You know the old axiom, Practice Makes Perfect.

            But I say, if practice makes perfect and we all know that nobody is perfect, then why should we practice?

            Tomorrow, I know I should be at work by 7am. But my goal is 8 am. If I get to work by 7:45am, am I successful?

            • I was wondering about that myself. Suppose I wrote a book about how to be a failure as a writer and nobody bought it….

              Or if I open a loaf of bread intending to make ‘raw toast’ for lunch….

              And what about my life long goal of never achieving my goals…

              Dang! I’m batting a thousand!

              • LOL!

              • @Smokin Okie….Prayers for your dear grandson from Canada, sure hope all goes well for him.

                About JOG, I had been in contact with him till just b4 Christmas, however, nothing since then. Think of him all the time, and have contacted some here at Macs’ site, but all are in the same boat and have heard nothing from him. Of course, he is so isolated that it could be a communication problem…I sure hope so!! Take care, CC.

            • Everyone’s unique use of the English Language shows a strong ability for a career in the legal profession in government service.

              Remember Ari Fleisher. Pinning down that guy for a straight answer was like trying to nail jello to a wall.

      28. As far as the sun rises from the east and sets in the west, I will borrow no more forever!

        Chief Ugly

      29. Slow strangulation. Squeeze the life out slow. No rebellion, no riots, no protest. The NWO can’t handle that.5 years from now you’ll be where they want you. And you’ll never remember how you got there.

      30. Everyone here knows that things are not very good. We see it day end and day out, predictions, predictions, predictions. Someone, somewhere thinks they have their hands on the control button of when to call in the collapse, but what they do not know, is it will not happen like they vision it. When the collapse happens it will take on a life of it’s own.
        The best that anyone can do is know that it’s inevitable, it will happen. Things cannot keep going in the direction they are for it not to happen.
        I still to this day see the uninformed meandering around like everything is A-Okay…… I do not feel pity for them, because if they want to continue to be ignorant to what is going on around them, then so be it! You either have the ability to think for yourself or you believe in the magic wand waving heads of Government who will deceive, manipulate, and brainwash the masses with the same old same old, the worst is over and nothing but golden success ahead for all.
        Last I knew, you can still drown in pure BS. IMO, theirs a lot of BS flowing from Capital Hill and MSM these days

      31. Let’s see, the collapse was supposed to occur in 2013. Did not happen. Then 2014. Has not happened yet. Now it is coming years. Why don’t you be honest and admit you just don’t know?

        • the collapse was predicted in 05 to happen SOON, and it DID. the stock market FELL by 50%…and then the fed decided to foolishly lend/print 29 trillion with a capitol T to “bail out” the banking system(and even other COUNTRIES!), but it DIDN’T WORK…it’s STILL BANKRUPT! so let’s all stop talking about SHTF, because we are RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF IT! crash 2.0 is imminent and it will be MUCH WORSER than the first one in this GREATEST depression….the FED done spent ALL of it’s ammo downrange, and they got nuthin’ left to throw at the problem. look around you fer shitsakes….movies parkin’ lot was empty yesterday. store parkin’ lots empty, homeless people begging EVVEERRYYYWHERE. america(ns) are ALL bankrupt 60plus percent of americans are ONE PAYCHECK away from insolventcy …pretty much ALL cities/states/counties are in the red to the tune of TRILLIONS, collectively speakin’. i would love to hear how we are going to escape this appocalypse that’s COMING. in fact i’ve begun ASKING people i know that are “smart liberals” how it’s all gonna unfold, and it ALWAYS devolves into armwaving and shouting on THEIR part when i start to provide FACTS, such as how much debt we owe and tax receipts required to pay said debt. they live in LA LA land, never READING anything about politics or what makes the world tick. money grows on(from, actually) trees….well, it HAS grown on trees until now, but it CAN’T continue much longer…the world’s gonna stop accepting PAPER soon. stick a fork in this muhfugguh, it’s DONE FOR!

        • The further we go the more we see signs that it’s coming quickly.

      32. Once, a hundred years ago, the dollar was defined by American law, specifically by the Coinage Act of 1792 but Americans let that very important law be cast aside by the Corporations and Whore Politicians in the treachery of December, 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve System. There should have been hangings but there weren’t and so for the last hundred years the dollar has been defined exclusively by that great House of Jewish Wizardry, the Rothschild family of Dragons! They started loaning millions, then billions, then trillions and now hundreds of trillions of nothing,…not a thing but these no things were called dollars, pounds, francs, pesetas, drachmas, etc. and they told the Nations they would have to be paid back with interest. Can it not yet be seen by the unknowing, that when a Nations people work to pay back this “debt”, they monetize the NO THING and make it SOME THING!! Nothing into something,… pretty good racket, would you agree? They get away with it because the Politicians in every Nation were, are and will continue to be in all future generations, WHORES OF JEWISH FINANCE! How can it not be so? They own all the instruments that dictate the proper thoughts you need to have in the formation of your proper opinions and then they make you think that your mind alone arrived at those opinions!! So, let the U.S. owe 17 trillion “dollars”, nay, a hundred trillion “dollars”, it’s all fraud, always been fraud and will always be fraud until all the people of this bedeviled planet rise up, gather all the Central Bankers, Politicians and other elitist’s of every stripe who have benefitted from this Global fraud and line them up against the wall to receive their long postponed justice.

        • BOOK Of Revelation: WHORE of BABYLON!

          Jewish Book of: BABYLONIAN Talmud!

          Another jewish “coincidence”?

          REV: End times City of babylon…Hmmm where they all at mostly?…NEW YORK!

          • Sanballat,
            The JEWISH Christ forgives even your satanic words!

            • Grafique:

              Part of the communist manifesto: Can’t destroy the message, then do your best to destroy the messenger.

              Are you an Israelie paid talkbacker; you know the people the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in israelie pay to search blogs and try to destroy anyone telling the truth about that stolen land and their awful religion via the talmud.

              Any Christian who has bought into the judeo-Christian bs should at least spend some time finding out what the judeo part of that word means. If you believe the Bible and you read the jews talmud; you will soon see there is nothing in common with those two beliefs.

              You have to accept Jesus Christ to be a true Christian and to be assured of an eternal life. Have you even taken the time to discover that the jews have a g-d not the Christians GOD, Jesus Christ. Isn’t that enough to give you pause if your preacher/teacher is teaching you that the jews are the chosen?

              Any religion, any color, any race can be part of the chosen…..but they MUST accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Without this TRUE commitment it is written that come judgement day your final destination is the “lake of Fire”.

              After a little research you will realize that judeo-Christian is a huge lie…..and you will wonder how you ever sat in a church and paid that preacher to lie to you.

              Israel of the Bible is all peoples who truly believe in Jesus Christ. It is not jews, their g-d, or that stolen land in the middle east.

              • “Judeo” is derived from “Judah”, which is the Jewish tribe of Jesus’ origin.

                No, I’m not Jewish, and no one pays me – although you aren’t the first to accuse me of that.

                As for all believers being “Israel”, that’s mistaken. Believers are grafted into the vine of Judaism. Believers DO NOT replace national Israel.
                That’s the difference you need to see – the difference between national Israel and Jewishness. The New Testament makes it plain that believers are “grafted into the vine”. We (Gentile believers) are privileged to be counted as Jews.

                Some here (not naming any names) will see that as an insult. I see it as a blessing.

                • I’ll continue to defend the Chosen People of God. You keep attacking me for doing so. For each attack, a great reward is laid up for me in heaven.

              • You’re too filled with hatred to possibly be a Christian.

                • Barncat:

                  Not so, Barncat.

                  I love Jesus Christ my Lord. I remain dismayed that you, like a lot of posters here, continue to spread things that are not true.

                  In an earlier post, Bsrncat, you are so enamored with the idea of a rapture that you said Jesus Christ will return twice more to this earth. Where and in what Bible did you learn such lies. There is only two Advents of Jesus in the Bible, Barncat.

                  The first was his birth and the second is when he comes to set up his kingdom on earth.

                  No such thing as a rapture.

                  Want more information. Go to biblestudy dot com. There you will find how that false story came about and what the Bible verses that the false teacher/preachers are using out of context to please your itchy ears.

                  I only despise liars Barncat and Jesus tells what happens to people who are adding false information to his scriptures.

                  • PO’d Granny: Heres DNA proof solid Evidence, that these jewwdeo jews so called and self chozens imposters as Christ called them when he said They Are of their father Satan aka the synagouge of satan, really are…They are dna proven Khazars of Turkic origins which makes these false fraud so called jews that some people whorship.

                    Actually of or from ESAU aka edom aka edomites and THIS jewish scientists DNA as Published by Prestigious JOHN HOPKINS Hosp proves beyond ALL doubt period.

                    However such foollish jew firsters like barn cat and grafique and pkll et al keep rejecting valid dna evidenciary Truth, since it don’t “fit” their warped pastor hagee type “end times scenarios” that They Wish to be factual truth. These ashkanzi jews that make up the Vast majority of state of israel and especially its official rulers etc are KHAZARS and this DNA proves it as facts. NOTE also its been done INside israel, AT hebrew univ labs, BY jew scientists at two seperate time frames, and articles about this dna proof were also published IN Jeruselems TOP daily newspaper of Harretzz!

                    ARE They all antisemites too? All jew “haters” too? or just a few Honest folks that happen to be called jews but admit to really being Khazar turks?

                    SEE Very NEXT Post as I need more space for that DNA stuff…

                  • The link is not just biblestudy dot com. It is biblestudysite dot com.

      33. Many articles talk about YEARS down the road, and it just doesn’t seem much like there is more than MONTHS down the road. Like Art Bell use to quote THE QUICKENING is really in very high gear now. The issue with Russia is way more serious than the MSM is letting on. The Middle East is at a boiling point not seen since it erupted back in 1973. The real push though that everyone should pay attention to is CHINA.

        China is not backing down to anything. China has the money trigger behind it. China has massive missile power ready to go. China has been planning for the past 20 years to never be humiliated by the U.S. like they were with Taiwan back when Bubba Clinton sent navial forces to mortify inferior the Chinese navy. China made a vow to the NEXT TIME be more than ready for the U.S. Much of China’s money goes into the military, vastly understating how much is actually spent.

        The world is now more armed per capita than anytime in history. It is not coming from NATO, as this has shrunk. Itr is coming from Russia, China, Southeast Asia, the Koreas, even Japan, the Middle East, South and Central American countries are building their militaries not seen in decades, African nations also have been purchasing weapons at an increased rate. Missiles have been the hottest market on the armed forces exports. Countries all over the world are getting ready for battle. China and Russia have put much emphasis on the best nuclear forces available. POWDER KEG ready blow.

        By the way there was 2 more precursor earthquakes, one on the Mid Atlantic Ridge near the equator in the same spot that lead to the World Series earthquake 11 days later in 1989 and the same earthquakes as mention in comment 3120267, including Iceland and a 7.9 in the Indian Ocean back in 2000. The one in the Arctic Ocean lead to major earthquakes in Kermadec Islands, New Guinea, Fiji, and Japan. So this increases the chance of a sizeable earthquake by June 16 to 95% in these same areas, and again to include Iceland as a potential danger area. California has also increased the chance of being hit from Moderate to Moderate high danger. Alaska and Pacific Northwest were hit several times in the past when this same spot on the Mid Atlantic Ridge was hit.

        • DNA PROOF Evidence: Does NOT Lie! Every Court worlwide agrees and accepts DNA like This as 100% proof beyond ALL Prior doubts PERIOD. Of which NONE of these PKLL-Barn Cat-Grafique et all others are able to refute with ANY contrary proof, oh yeah they still will reject it all! And that goes to show just what fool idiots they all are Granny. They have become like those they idolize so.

          God called them jews “the Adversaries(enemys) of GOD and Of ALL mankind” thats an actual bible verse.

          Christ called them Liars, Thieves and Murderers like their fahter satan. JOHN 8:44, REV 2:9 and 3:9. and in many more verses. One Must also reject all that to so worship the fake jew khazars and heres that DNA proof.

          Because of DNA science, historians and anthropologists have been able to find missing links and to unravel the mysteries of race and ethnology.

          In 2001, Dr. Ariella Oppenheim, of Hebrew University, a biologist, published the first extensive study of DNA and the origin of the Jews. Her research found that virtually all the Jews came from Khazar blood. Not only that but Oppenheim discovered that the Palestinians—the very people whom the Jews had been persecuting and ejecting from Israel’s land since 1948—had more Israelite blood than did the Jews. In sum, the vast majority of the Jews were not Jews; some of the Palestinians were. Some of the Palestinians even had a DNA chromosome which established that they were “Cohens”—workers at the ancient Temple and synagogues of the Jews.

          The Definitive DNA Study
          Now comes the ultimate, definitive DNA study, by Dr. Eran Elhaik and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. Entitled, The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses, and published by the Oxford Journal on behalf of the Society for Molecular Biology and Evolution, the study confirms Oppenheim’s research and the many scholarly books.

          Dr. Elhaik and the prestigious Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine conclude in their report: “The Khazarian Hypothesis suggests that Eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, an amalgam of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries CE and Converted to Judaism in the eighth century…Following the collapse of their empire, the Judeo-Khazars fled to Eastern Europe. The rise of European Jewry is therefore explained by the contribution of the Judeo-Khazars.”

          Who Can Argue With DNA Science?

          So DNA science has proven that the findings of many historians and anthropologists is correct. The “Jews” of Israel are not Abraham’s descendants but, instead, come from the subjects of King Bulan of Khazaria.

          The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct.

          What exactly is the “Khazarian Hypothesis?” Simply stated, it holds that the Jewry genome is a mosaic of ancestries which rise primarily out of the Khazars.

          Jews are Khazars, not Israelites.

          The “Jews” of America, Europe, and Israel are descendants not of Father Abraham but of King Bulan and the people of ancient Khazaria. Khazaria was an amalgam of Turkic clans who once lived in the Caucasus (Southern Russia) in the early centuries CE. These Turkic peoples were pagans who converted to Judaism in the eighth century. As converts, they called themselves “Jews,” but none of their blood comes from Israel.

          Later, the “Jews” (Khazars) emigrated, settling in Russia, Hungary, Poland, Germany, and elsewhere in Europe. As “Jews,” the Khazars then left the European nations in 1948 and settled the fledgling, new nation of Israel.

          The people of Israel are not the seed, nor the ancestors, of Abraham. They call themselves “Jews,” but in fact, DNA science shows them to be Khazars. They say they are “Jew,” but they are not.

          ISREAL’S Daily Newspaper, HAARETZ Part as Published!

          “There are no blood or family connections among the Jews,” said Dr. Elhaik in an interview with Haaretz, Israel’s daily newspaper. “The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. Their genome is largely Khazar.”

          Thus, when Prime Minister Netanyahu says, “God gave this land to our Israelite forefathers,” he is absolutely wrong. There are no Israelite forefathers of today’s “Jews.” When today’s “Jews” say they should possess the land because they are Israelites and are the seed of Abraham, they are mistaken.

          The “Jews” are in Israel for one reason and one reason only: Because the United States, in 1948, recognized the nation of “Israel” and has since funded and protected it. God’s Word has nothing to do with it.

          God’s Word, the Holy Bible, prophesied that in the last days imposters would erroneously and falsely claim to be “Jews.” These imposters would, the Bible told us, persecute their enemies and especially the Christians. But God would have his revenge:

          I ask my evangelical Christian friends: What will you do now? Will you heed what God said, in Revelation 2 and 3, about “them which say they are Jews and are not?” Will you accept modern DNA science as legitimate and valuable in proving the truth of God’s Word?

          Or will you, dear Christian friend, walk right on by, dismissing what both God and science have informed you?

          God said that the seed of Abraham would inherit the land. Therefore, we must—absolutely must—in light of the DNA evidence, ask ourselves: Where, and who are the seed of Abraham?

          We know that Netanyahu and the people who now inhabit Israel have no claim to the land. They are interlopers, false pretenders. But there is a true and legitimate Chosen People of God. In fact, the scriptures had it right all along. The answer is found in Galatians 3:29. Read it for yourself:

          “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”

          So, if you belong to Jesus our Lord, you are “Abraham’s seed,” regardless of your physical race. You are overcomers, and Revelation 21:7 promises, “He that overcometh shall inherit all things.”

          God is not a racist. The Great Commission extends to every race and ethnicity. We who love Jesus are His Chosen People, and we have the promise first given to Abraham way back in Genesis

      34. I and others believe that it is important to be where you wish to be before the Nov elections….for you may not be able to (legally) travel between states following the elections….if they occur
        Please be aware of what is occurring around you and act accordingly….meaning: get out while the gettin’ is good….
        fob

      35. As indicated, Dave Hodges’ site [www.thecommonsenseshow.com] was taken down!

        Let’s take a look at his recent courageous history:

        a. First, a series of articles on how George Soros took all his $$ out of the stock market and put it in precious metals, and he indicated a currency collapse will soon happen on the heels of a False Flag [Cyber terror] event that will wipe out all your savings and your pensions, etc. in one [keyboard] stroke (which would cause widespread panic, riots, etc.); he also talked about how, by law, the bank owns YOUR money once it is deposited and how DIFFICULT it is to get it OUT of the bank!

        b. Then a series of articles on how Child Protective Services is taking children and sex-trafficking them; and how they are taking children whose parents are Federal employees to keep them from whistle blowing;

        c. Lastly, a series of 3-4 articles on the upcoming False Flag in Chicago, complete with documentation, which he said could happen from now until the end of June AND might coincide with a currency collapse and gun confiscation (I’m trying to remember all of Friday’s devastating article that was taken down before I had a chance to forward it or copy it during my lunch break).

        He said that the False Flag will be blamed on Syria to justify our country invading Syria while/when Putin invades the Ukraine. That, my friends, as you no doubt already know, will be World War III.

        Mr. Hodges has multiple sources to corroborate other sources. He said he gives copies of what her has to others in case something were to happen to him.

        What do I conclude?

        One, we need to pray for Mr. Hodges and his family. He has put his life on the line to expose and fight the One World people.

        Two, multiple sources of sh– will hit the fan and take it out: Currency Collapse; a likely False Flag in Chicago or perhaps somewhere else (bombings? a suitcase nuke?); Interruption of food production and deliveries leading to riots and fights over food (the FDA bought automatic weapons 2-3 weeks ago); World War III; Imposition of Partial and then full Martial Law to be enforced by Russian and Chinese soldiers already training here and other Mercenaries training at our military bases (there will be no more Presidential elections); the round up of Christians and others who would dare refuse the Mark of the Beast (to make acquisition of food possible) to be exterminated at Fema detention camps (those that do not remember the lessons of Nazi Germany might fall prey to this incredible evil).

        In fact, Mr. Hodges said a few weeks ago the NFL entered into a contract with Fema to have stadiums used to hold people (and of course anyone in a stadium just like a Fema camp will be gassed to death or guillotined). No news show has ever been permitted to film or go into any of these camps. Now why would that be? You know the answer.

        [By the way, EVERYTHING I wrote above, in SOME way, shape, or form, was ALSO told either to John Leary or/and to Maria Divine Mercy by Jesus Christ Himself. I have previously given their websites. In other words, what we have all witnessed in our lives and read about at this site and what Mr. Hodges has attested to on his site had already been PROPHESIED! Remember the ROLE of a PROPHET: to interrupt and to interfere (with evil, with the status quo); to call everyone to repentance and conversion; to articulate the heart, mind, and will of God; and to announce Divine Consequences (Chastisements) to those who refuse to repent, convert, or turn away from evil. Oh, I haven’t even TOUCHED on what Christ said about GMO food and vaccinations filled with toxins to cause cancer and death!]

        I also conclude that Oklahoma City, 9/11, Hurricane Sandy, Sandy Hook, the September Naval Yard shooting were all “warm-ups” or drills for the One World people to kill us in a series of coordinated attacks.

        [Jesus told John Leary that Tim McVey was chipped as were the the Batman movie theater shooter(s) and the September shooter. As I have said before, and the patents are online, the chip, or the Mark of the Beast, disables your free will, you hear voices commanding you what to do, AND you are POWERLESS to RESIST those voices or REFUSE their commands.]

        The printed goal of the One World people is to reduce the 7.5 billion of us to just 500 million people.

        [But God the Father told Maria He will not permit that and will stop the evil doers in their tracks.]

        Conclusion: One, if you haven’t gotten right with God, you had better do it today, tonight, or no later than tomorrow; Two, if you haven’t “finished” your most essential prepping, it will soon be too late once currency is worthless and stores are gutted; Three, connect all the dots yourself and trust your gut; Four, be open to prophecy as speaking to the very evils this site and Hodges’ site describe and expose; Five, take a few seconds to pray for Mr. Hodges and other courageous people who fight for all of us when they could just be sitting back watching a thousand cable channels and having a snack.

        And if you skipped down to this one sentence, heed it well: think like a Chess player because something wicked (more likely a series of wicked things) your way is coming and coming in a Tsunami-like fashion!

        – the Lone Ranger

        “Truth needs to be repeated as long as there are men who disbelieve it.” – Gandhi

        “The best wars ever fought ever won were those not even begun.” – Sun Tzu

        “Violence is that which violates, force is that which protects.” – Rev. Edward J. Brady, S.J.

        • Lone Ranger, you forgot–the most important?
          China owns us and is waiting to take over all of our resources.

          • Hate to Burst that huge enamored Bubble you have of Hodges…But hes very Like alez jonski as Both cry Nazis nazis! while every former nazi is long dead and fully outlawed everywheres a nation eixsts…Yet the One Main true culprit hodges and jonski Never, Ever name or even Hint to is…Jewdeokommie Zionists and Israel.

            There is simply zero excuses left today with so many Other patriot sites that DO name these evil culprits, for these Two guys to keep pandering to or Fearing or Both of nameing or even mentioning these issues and facts.

            Therefore at This late date I am inclined to believe all who refuse to name the True Culprits, of whom these guys are Way too smart to not know of, are either going for the big bucks Cash, or are controlled oppositions in Cahoots with the zios same as every current, past, and future usa and euro polititions are.

            They are supposed to be Alternate media infos right?…Yet just Try to Phone in to alex or Post a forum reply where you question ANYTHING related to israel-jewish issues or zionsist and see just what happens.

            They all Hang up before you can finsih the question, or delete the posting Pronto Fast as possible…THEN Exact Same as say for example, Rush or Hannitys radio shows, Glen Becks radio show too, they Hang up the phone quickly, Then they all state the same prepared words of “ok enough antisemites or enough Nazis folks”

            Then cut to Long commercial break, then return on radio show with a whole different set of infos hopeing listeners get Distracted from the prior callers important Relevant questions of israel or zionsist or jew issues plagueing the world today.

            ZERO difference from “Mainstream” to “Alternate” with these type guys it seems eh. And nobody whos listened to rush or hannity or beck can deny thats their everytime pre planned strategy, used everytime such a call comes in or its posted at their internet forums.

            There are very FEW like Mac’s site here and a couple others where FREE speech reigns supreme!

            Alez ziojonesky and Dave Hodges aint one of that small Few.

            it aint no nazis, aint been no nazis aint ever going to be any nazis…Its Been KOMMIES ALL ALONG!

            Jewish Invented communism, like jewish invented central fed res Banks, and jewish invented Zionisim Period.

            That three way combo IS the main major global troubles today.

            As Henry Ford said in, 1922, in his dearborn newspaper he created to voice Truth, that NO other american newspapers ever would..”The jewsih group is the Foremost problem in the world today”…Henry got many Death treats and at least one real attempt at his and his wifes lives for publishing and speaking out truth. Only persons and Groups with Much Evils to HIDE ever do death threats and attempt to assainate anybody…What do jewish zionists have to hide so badly eh?

            Communism IS Talmudic Zionisim FOR NON jewish Goyims. Just ask Karl Marx! or several Zio Rabbis I have oft posted quotes of that nature from here.

            BABYLON Is where our system of Usury intrest Fiat debt created cash, banking and one central Private bank as we all endure globally Was first Invented and used. In Babylon empire….Where 3500 yrs ago when Taken there as captives, as Your bibles state, the Pharisee rabbis first learned, then Copied current bankster usury systems from. Babylon empire the first world govnt to ever exist.

            Its also where the Talmud originated from and BY the Same Pharisee rabbis…Used to Kommie-Control all banks and peoples everywheres, that includes the real actual jewish folks who are also under the rabbis talmudic spell.

            But most refuse to ever consider Leaving that rabbi talmudic infested reservation, as its taught to Obey from Birth with threats of Loss of all they hold dear…Like Cash, owned Buisness’s, Cash, prestige in the synagouges of satan, Cash, political powers galore, Cash, and abject worship as the ONLY victims thru all history that ever matters…BY…in america alone over 50 Million delsusional “christians” duped and deluded to Pay for and assist in Their Own demise by the very satan-sons they so defend and obey and yes worship as godlike Idols.

            Just Wait till them 50 million usa folks finally realize not only most what their preachers taught as False…But also that they have been defending those who God Himself declared “Esau I hated!” for esau is Edom, and Edom is Edomites, and edmoites Are todays Khazaer fraud fake jewry. All but a very tiny portion of true Judah tribe decendants today that is. DNA evidence dont lie folks.

            Lets just Hope and Pray those deluded souls awaken before it all errupts so they choose the proper side eh!…Otherwise we will be faced with their Hatreds and viciousness as they believe they do God a service by killing true christian folks, on behalf of their jewdeo kommie and zionists Master race masters! Oy Veh how can so many still be so deluded eh.

            • Them Guys: Two questions…

              Do you claim Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal savior?

              Did Jesus Christ die on the cross for your sins, rise again on the third day and now sits at the right hand of the Father?

              Two simple questions….

              • PKLL:

                Better you ask Grafique those questions then Themguys.

                I would like you to begin proving Themguys posts are not true PKLL. Prove to the bloggers here that over 100 countries have not kicked the jews out, prove that statement to be a lie and also the why such drastic measures were deemed necessary.

                Tell us how, down through the years, Popes, leaders of countries, Presidents of the USA, etc., have told us what has happened and is happening to country after country because of the perfidious jew. Are those all lies, PKLL. Are you saying you are smarter than those people, that you dont believe them?

                I enjoy most of your posts, PKLL, but would really like you to explain where Themguys posts are not true.

                Just who do you think the PTB are that is bent on destroying the world? You must have some idea of who the “enemy” is.

                • The Jews have been kicked out by the entire world – because their land is Israel.

                  God promised that in the end times he would return the Jews to their land, and they’d never be made to leave again.

                  The choice you have is to believe that God is able to keep his promise, or that he is not able.

                • POG: I have tried to engage in a debate and ask questions of Them Guys. I don’t get an answer but more shouting and name calling. I have posted articles refuting his point of view. It does no good and is pointless.

                  We disagree on some important theology…but the only person trying to shove hate down our throats is Them Guys. Why is he trying so hard? We (those of us who disagree with the hate posts) didn’t start this discussion. We simply disagreed with it.

                  I have repeatedly said that the Talmud is bad. But not all Jews follow the Talmud. That in itself should stop any argument. Jesus is a Jew…Jesus will set his feet down in Israel. God will set his temple there. Not America, Italy, Argentina, Costa Rica or Guam. Israel. That fact alone should give us to respect the land and the chosen people. God said to support Israel. Again, that in itself should stop any argument.

                  I also will live by faith and not by sight. Which means I will follow what the bible says regardless of what I see in this world. God says to support the Jews. And that is what I will do. I will err on the side of the Almighty and not some human’s understanding of things.

                  Don’t you find it interesting that Them Guys has NOT answered if Jesus is his savior? Aren’t we known by our fruit, whether or not be are truly saved? I see no fruit from Them Guys…none. Only a hatred for God’s chosen people.

                  That tells me all I need to know.

                  As for destroying the world…I think we agree this is a fight between good and evil. From the beginning of time, that’s all it has ever been. It doesn’t matter who is currently being used for that purpose.

                  But again, regardless of what my eyes see or what man “thinks” he knows or what “science” proves….I will do my best to obey God and follow what the bible tells me to do. And that is to support Israel.

                  PKLL

            • Sanballat,
              Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.
              – Psalms 129:5

            • Once again, them guys, you (unsuccessfully) derailed my response by talking about someone named Alex Jones whom I have never mentioned, ever.

              Why would that be?

              Because you have some type of maniacal hatred of Jewish people instead of addressing specifics or naming specifics.

              And because you love to distract readers’ attention to the real issues, the pertinent issues, the salient issues when you descend into hatred.

              Nice try, but you failed.

              Two, your attacking Mr. Hodges is 100% meritless/mindless/baseless.

              Again, you provide no specifics. Nice try, but you failed.

              Why aren’t you horrified by the sex trafficking of children, them guys?

              Why aren’t you horrified by the prospect or likelihood of currency collapse?

              I’ll tell you why.

              You don’t really give a damn.

              The only thing you give a damn about is your maniacal hatred of anyone or anything that comes close to speaking the Truth.

              So what does your reply tell us?

              You can’t HANDLE the TRUTH!

              But as Gandhi said, “Truth needs to be repeated as long as there are men who disbelieve it.”

              And so this site, and its posters will continue to witness to that Truth. Hatred cannot mask or hide the Truth.

              What else besides hatred do you wtiness to?

              – the Lone Ranger

              • Get a Grip Lone Ranger:

                I have seen post after post, list after list of yours warning of the perils Christian people will be facing in the near future.

                I agree with the lists you have posted; the only thing I find troubling is your reluctance to name TPTB behind the destruction coming to America and the world.

                Are you also swmarter than the popes, presidents, rulers, jewish authors, etc. through the ages that have named who the true enemy of Christianity is, and who wants to rule the world, the rest of us be damned.

                I for one want to KNOW who my enemy is…….so tell me, Lone Ranger, who are the banksters, who controls the finances of the world, who is the leadership of the ACLU, who is pushing gun legislation through congress,etc. I could go on and on, Lone Ranger.

                You seem to want to call the answers to my questions hatred, I call the answers THE TRUTH.

                • POG: The enemy is satan…it does not matter who is currently being used for that purpose.

                  The bible says, “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, don’t lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths.”

                  I am not being snarky here…please, let that verse sink in…we are NOT to give way to what we “see” in the world or what we think we “know.” We are to follow and obey God’s word regardless of what is happening around us….

                  PKLL

              • What a Loser clown! most of all my posts are about banksters and Our and the worlds, economic troubles!!

                Its You that cant admit truth that every such problem is DUE to JEWSIH banksters!….I outlined my reasons well and easy to comprehend as to what I feel about alternative website info guys like hodges etc…They all, but for a very small few, refuse to deal with the real true issues because its a jewish and zionists issue mainly.

                YOU on the other hand put 100% faith in some phony self claimed prophetess named “maria Divine Mercy”?!!

                GET real! Lemme guess thats her Birth name her parents gave her?…Divine mercy?…silly me for thinking Only Christ is allowed such a title as divine mercy!

                God Told John Lerry, Jesus Told Maria divine mercy this and that eh…

                Yeah well guess what pal…Last week some homeless Hobo guy wiped my truck windshield for a dollar and he told me that I should Rather Obey Christ and pay close HEED that Jesus Warned repeatedly for us to BEWARE of Fake prophets!

                Your twin prophets fit that bill perfectly.

                Because the biblical mandate method to TEST the prophets is to SEE if all they say comes TRUE or Not..

                And By Your own many postings of a multitude of advance warnings of soon doom and gloom as told to You By them two fraud prophets, and that You named dates its to occure, and EVERYTIME, every such warning You posted from maria “Divine mercy!!!!!” was Incorrect. Wrong as can be.

                And yet you still post More from the same proven fraud prophetess and prophet guy….Perhaps it be You who has real serious personal problems need attending to eh.

                Maria divine mercy indeed…GET REAL.

                Another Jim Jones “prophet”- he only convinced about 900 folks to move to central american jungles, and then to Drink His Koolaide and inject some into their small kiddies veins!!….I wonder how many will follow your false prophets into some jungles this time around eh.

                Lets hope it is zero follow such frauds, now proven fake as per YOUR dates posted of stuff God told them two WILL happen ON them dates or BY end of such and such month or week…Lunatics and You fell for em!

                • Them Guys: Two questions…for the third time…

                  Is Jesus Christ your Lord and personal savior?

                  Was He crucified on the cross for your sins, then rose again on the third day and now sits at the right hand of God?

                  PKLL

          • JayJay, yes, we certainly are in debt to China!

            More importantly, our elected leaders have sold out OUR mineral rights, OUR land rights, and OUR OTHER natural resources to make good on THEIR debt to China, not OURS!

            In addition, Chinese AND Russian soldiers have been spotted in our country training, to assist with the implementation of Martial Law. This is all part of the One World people’s plan to take over the United States of America. You know about the other parts, both slow-kill (GMOs, toxic vaccinations, etc.) and fast kill (weaponized drones, chipped soldiers, etc.)

            Knock out OUR power grid + shut down OUR Internet + collapse OUR currency + disrupt OUR food deliveries = Chaos, Death, Destruction, Panic, Murder, Suicide, and more. (Notice the evildoers never attack their own.)

            They will do ANYTHING to reduce the 7.5 billion on the planet to 500 million but God the Father will NOT permit that.

            SO:

            Stay smart.

            Stay alert.

            Stay prayerful.

            Stay prepped.

            And stay TUNED because when Almighty God intervenes, there is no power anywhere that can overcome God the Father!

            – the Lone Ranger

            “Thou shall not kill!” – one of the Ten Commandments

            • Here you are again Lone Ranger.

              Who the hell is the “one worlds people” you speak about in your post to JayJay. Are they just nameless and faceless to you Lone Ranger or are you up to giving your assessment of who they are?

              Surely you can put a name to some of them; you have been posting about “them” on SHTF for quite sometime. Are you not curious enough about these “one worlds people”, who according to you have very HATEFUL intent in this world, to dig deep enough to know who your enemies are?

      36. I see *some* posters here whining yet again, ‘OH NOES, THE SAME OLD DOOM AND GLOOM!’ etc…ad nauseam.

        It’s actually *not* the same old doom and gloom…this is much, much worse. Just as in history past, the world is ramping up for major depression and world wide war.

        Have YOU lived through a major economic depression? How about global world wide war? No? Hmm…

        HOW is it worse this time, you ask? Well, if you haven’t figured it out YET, you are going to be one of the ones that jumps out the windows of the highest building you can enter because ALL hope will be lost by you. Sucks to be you.

        In case you need more CLUES (even after all of those GREAT financials given above in the article)here are a few shockers for you:

        -The U.S. *used* to be a nation of producers…now we are just a great big stinking pot of consumers. Not good.

        – The LAST world war was fairly achievable due to the fact that the U.S. had huge mfg. and industrial capabilities in house. We don’t have s**t anymore. Notta.

        -Much of the population in the U.S. last depression was actually still self-sufficient and farming to a degree.
        Fat-ass, stupid people today, can barely get off the couch to get anything themselves. Really, really sad.

        -The U.S. actually had some friends and allies last world war. This time it’s every nation for itself. Except for all those ones we pissed off, they will ganging up on the U.S. like a red-headed stepchild beating.

        I can give about one hundred more reasons why this doom and gloom is MUCH, much worse- but if you don’t get it already, then nobody can help you.

        • Thats why im going to enjoy while i can!
          CHEERS!!

        • To support Socrates post…

          The following explains the time aspects of exponential math with a story that goes something like this:

          Imagine a big water pipe that feeds a football stadium. The pipe is about to spring a leak that will get exponentially worse over time. Imagine that when the leak starts it will drip one drop of water the first minute, two drops the next, 4 drops the minute after, doubling each minute without limit. This is an example of exponential growth. Now imagine that you are chained into a seat at the very top of the water-tight stadium. The leak begins dripping exactly at noon.

          Here’s the question: How much time do you have to free yourself from the seat and leave the stadium before the water reaches your seat at the very top? Think about it for a moment. Is it hours, days, weeks, months?

          The answer: You have until exactly 12:49pm. It takes this exponentially growing water leak less than 50 minutes to fill a whole football stadium with water. That may seem impressive but the really important part of the lesson is that at 12:45 the leak has only filled 7% of the stadium. This leads you to think that you have hours and hours of time left before you are affected so you don’t work as hard on escaping as you should be doing. Unfortunately, the nature of exponential functions means that the stadium fills up only 4 short minutes later.

        • Socraties:

          “- The LAST world war was fairly achievable due to the fact that the U.S. had huge mfg. and industrial capabilities in house. We don’t have s**t anymore. Notta.”

          Weapons in general and precision guided weapons in specific delivered 24/7 with stealth aircraft make large armies unnecessary except for occupation. Take Omaha Beach as an example. A few guided weapons destroy the fortifications and a fraction of the troops disembark virtually unscathed. In the above arena no nation or even group of nations has the capability that the US has.

          Occupying territory and controlling a civilian population that chooses not to be controlled is another matter as Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam showed. That war is won through “hearts and minds”.

      37. The Economy, an Emperor, and a Chinese Peasant (CP)….

        An Emperor had ‘fungus of the knuts’. He was always scratching. One day the CP with no money saw the Emperor scratching. The Emperor kept scratching and cussing. The CP kept to himself because he was in low position. The Emperor screamed, ‘I will give anybody anything if they can solve my Fungus-of-the-Knuts!’….

        The CP told the Emperor to rub sulfur on the Knuts and it would go away. The Emperor did, and it went away. Thus, he called his guards to get the CP because he owed him something. The Emperor asked the CP to request something reasonable and he would get his wish for solving his Knut problem….

        Now the CP knew the Emperor loved the game of checkers. There are 64 squares on a checker board. The CP said is all I want is a one kernel of grain on the first square. Then the second square it is doubled, thus 2 kernels. Then the third square it is doubled and now 4 kernels of grain. Do that until you reach 64th square.

        The Emperor laughed and said you dumbass. I will do as you say. So on the 4th square there were 8 kernels. They all laughed at the CP. The 5th square was 16 kernels. The 6th square had 32 kernels. The 7th square had 64 kernels–all still laughing at the CP. The 8th square had 128 kernels. The 9th square had 256. The 10th had 512. The 11th had 1024. The 12th had 2048. The 13th had 4096–they still laughing cause just 51 squares to go. The 14th had 8192. The 15th had 24576. The 16th had 49,152. The 17th had 147,456. The 18th had 294,912. The 19th had 589,824. The 20th had 1,769,472. The 21st had 3,538,944. And onto the 37th there were 35,664,401,793,024–they started to sweat because of exponential laws were not known.

        Then the 38th had 71 trillion kernels. Then onto 45th square had over the kernels of grain in China. By the 64th, there were not enough grain in the world to cover the wager. Thus the CP became wealthy and second I charge….

        Forget this stuff of $17 trillion USA debt. It does not show interest or even mathematical growth. It is the Pascal Triangle. The number will never be paid or balanced. Thus get ready….

        • Did the exponential function fail on square 15?

          Oh…it was Chinese checkers, huh? lol…carry on, Ugly.

      38. BI: (FYI) Update to the New Madrid Fault. A seismic company is drilling 8 wells to a depth of 8,000 ft. south of Fairfield IL., which is basically in the middle of the Illinois Oil Basin. They are doing this to do a seismic study of potently more oil deposits deep (?) in the basin. Now the kicker; a supplier to the drilling industry that I know very well told me that they are doing this with grant money (USGS). For me 2+2= New Madrid, and yes they know. At the depth of 8,000 ft. they are closely approaching what is known as the Granite Wash. (Seven of the wells have reportedly been drilled).

        River Rat at the ready!!!

        • @ River Rat. For once the USGS actually UPGRADED the earthquake in southern california yesterday from a 3.8 to 4.2. Guess they couldn’t hide the fact that the moment was too intense for anything under a 4 pointer. Yes you are correct that 2+2 does in New Madrid fault with the USGS. They are trying to set up as many monitoring stations as possible to know WHEN it is coming. The New Madrid is the type of earthquake that few people and buildings are prepared for in this region. For decades and longer the buildings were constructed more for the climate and weather rather than intense horizontal movement. The government knows what will happen even with a 6 pointer, a lot of destruction.

          I still believe that the New Madrid will have warning signs before it snaps. The energy build up before a break should be focused towards the Mid Atlantic Ridge between 14 and 20 degrees north. A really intense earthquake coming will probably also transfer that energy to other plate boundaries, especially the Caribbean plate and perhaps the western African plate in the Indian Ocean. The USGS does know.

      39. They do not fret any nations total combined debts owed…What they Do really Care big about is that while most folks go around in never ending circles of debates on whats owed? How Much it totals?…

        What the jewish banksters really do care of is that They now Own aprox 200 nations central banks, and that leaves only about 3-4 nations banks not yet owned by said jewish banksters..

        Reason they only care of that issue is due to USURY. AKA Usury=INTREST Owed. Just the usa alone Pays every Cent from every usa taxpyers FED tax paid, TO those jewish bankers for that USURY owed. Taxpayers Send FED Tax Owed Payments TO the US Treasury dept irs…BUT every check tax payers send to treasury, gets deposited into FED RES main NY bank as Payments Towards USURY intrest USA Fed GOVNT Owes.

        Add that all up…Its now close to one TRILLION dollars Usury intrest fed govnt of usa PAYS jewish bankers per Year every Year and that number or amount Raises each Year!

        MULTIPLY that BY what all the OTHER 199 nations fed govnts Owes jewish bankers for that nations debt USURY intrest owed…It Has to be in the tens of Trillions per year jewish banskers “earn” by doing NOTHING else, thats ZERO manual labors at all, to RAPE the whole Worlds nations of PEOPLES, for what is any nation without any live human peoples in it?…Its not a nation without its Human peoples who inhabit it. so it IS the worlds Peoples jewish banskters ROB BLIND thru their invention of USURY which is forbidden biblically for one thing.

        For a group of folks that always claim to be So damn HOLY and so damn special and godly like why do jewish banksters do such overt ROBBERY of close to 7 Billion people globally eh?

        Somethings not quite…Kosher with it all folks…

        America functioned just dandy fine before we ever had any jewish private banks and usury. Why did america all a sudden Need jew owned banks and to Borrow money its OWN usa treasury dept printers make?

        The ONLY valid reason for a fed res bank private owned by jew banksters is to make jewish folks filthy rich on Everybody elses sweat labors!

        And so far 109 Other nations with the same troubles we americans today face and have…Got Their nations, economys, peace, safty as a nation etc Back real fast…After they first woke to the true problems, figured out who was the true culprits then Booted em Out.

        That 109 nations with actual dates thru out History since AD-245, is easy to find online..Check it out if you doubt that. How much Proof does folks require before finally admitting to what or who the problems is or are?

        Can ALL 109 prior nations and all those many billions peoples all thru past history have been…Wrong?

        Facts and fully restored nations full of new prosperity, jobs, properties, and ZERO national Debt proves them 100% correct. So whats americans problem?

        • Sanballat,
          The life of Chrit is love and truth, not hate and lies.

          • OFFICIAL: State of Israel, says on questions of Who is a jew?

            So then, when we use the term “Jew” today what are we saying? Allow us to answer that with an excerpt from the Information Division, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem, and the The Jewish Almanac themselves, lest anyone think we are being so-called anti-Semitic here:

            Who are the so-called “Jews” of today?
            A reasonable question answered from logic and historic fact

            The word Jew comes from a Greek word meaning descendent of the tribe of Judah, or someone living in the land of Judea. Today’s Jews call themselves Jews to falsely imply that they are somehow descendent from the Biblical tribe of Judah.

            When asked the question, “Who is Israel? – Who is a Jew?”, the Israeli Government’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) unhesitatingly answered thus [emphasis added]:

            The term Israelite is purely Biblical.

            An Israeli is a citizen of Israel, regardless of religion.

            A Jew is a person anywhere in the world born to a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism, who is thus identified as a member of the Jewish people and religion.

            — Information Division, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem; Feb, 1998.

            “Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a “Jew.” Or to call a contemporary Jew [an] “Israelite,” or a “Hebrew.” The first Hebrews may not have been Jews at all, and contemporary Palestinians, by their own definition of the term “Palestinian,” have to include Jews among their own people.”

            –The Jewish Almanac, Oct., 1980, page 3, Bantam Books, Inc. Under a headline entitled… ‘Identity Crisis’.

            So….Are They wrong too?

            • SIX MILLION Jews Debunked….

              According to official documents in the French Republic (institute for the Examination of War‑criminals) the number that died in Auschwitz was: 8,000,000

              According to the French daily newspaper “Le Monde” (20 April, 1978): 5,000,000

              According to the memorial plaque on the gas‑chamber monument at Auschwitz‑Birkenau (later removed in 1990 by the Polish Government): 4,000,000

              According to the “confession” of Rudolf Hoess, the last commandant of Auschwitz. G.V. interrogation record and written statement [under extreme torture by his Jewish Interrogators] before his “suicide”: 3,000,000

              According to a statement by Yeduha Bauer, Director of the Institute for Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem: 1,600,000

              According to “La Monde” (1 September 1989): 1,433,000

              According to Prof. Raul Hilberg (Professor for Holocaust Research, and author of the book, “The Annihilation of European Jewry,” 2nd. ed. 1988: 1,250,000

              According to Polish historians, G.V. DPA ‑ Report of July 1990 and corresponding public announcements: 1,100,000

              According to Gerald Reitlinger, author of “Die Endlbsun”: 850,000
              In the autumn of 1989 the Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev opened Soviet archives, and the public saw for the first time, the complete register of deaths at Auschwitz ‑ which speaks as a key document of 74,000 dead.

              Complete register: ALL deaths…Gentiles included! 74,000!
              For Auschwitz…Hmmmmm…

              • The Lord rebuke you Them Guys….unbelievable.

                PKLL

      40. Don’t believe the U.S. government will use any weapons at their disposal to maintain and further absolute tyrannical genocide? Doubt the official version of the events of 9-11? Read June 2nd article at VeteransToday.com titled VT Nuclear Education: Undeniable Proof of 9-11 as a Nuclear Event. Nuclear annihilation is what we as Americans are facing.

      41. Ok. That’s it. I’m going to declare myself King and take over. Things should be turned around in no time at all.

        • @Poon Tang…repeal property and booze tax and I’ll support you as king. I don’t like the one currently in the People’s House, I could give you a try!

      42. And Just Who are those “Harlot Daughters” of the Babylon Whore spoken of in book of Revealtion?

        Most Every self proclaimed prophecy “expert” I have ever seen to date on tv shows, or have Read articles from have ALL been Protestant, or Baptist mainly.

        ALl of those “experts” claim that the vatican and Catholic church IS that whore of babylon. Because rome sits upon 7 Hills or small mountains.

        But None ever mention that Jeruselem ALSO has 7 Hills or Mountains named of in the bible OT books…

        Considering that yes todays vatican does somewhat support all issues israel or jewish etc…Lets compare That To how many and how Often do we instead hear of Baptists and protestant church preachers speak out in full 100% defense and total support for all issues jewish and zionists and israel…

        Most so called prohecy experts and their many, Many prophecy “conferences” held thru out the year every year again and again Are NON vatican, protestants or baptists guys.

        And as I Prior posted of, it Is jewsih zionists that calls Their Holiest books the “BABYLON Talmud”.

        So just what IF the TRUE Whore of Babylon end times events that sits upon 7 Hills, as Jeruselem Did or still does even if todays rebuilt cities in israel have covered up said Hills with so many layers of rebuilt cities over the past 4000 yrs…..

        Whos holy books and religion Is based on Babylon, means its NOT vatican and the catholic church…But rather it Is the NWO one global religion Based on as called in book of revelation that “WHORE of BABYLON”, and what else makes perfect Logic sense than such a babylon whore religion would be based on a babylon Talmud religion, and therfores if that religious systems “Harlot daughters” Must also be “Churches” like Their MOTHER WHORE religion is….What if the Mother whore is called a Synagouge instead of a church as Both words describe places of worship by jews and christians alike right.

        Now Just whos churches are and Have been for at least 40+ yrs now been Daily 24/7 promoting Nothing else But Jews, zionists and state of isreal as the be all to end all?

        It sure aint that Vatican eh folks?…Whens the last time You heard so much commotion talked of jews or israel BY that Vatican church?…You Haven’t since they barely ever do.

        Yet You do daily 24/7 for over 40 yrs now hear a constant drumbeat of jewish issues and state of israel by virtually and litterally most EVERY NON catholic denomination and its churches, and primarily By baptist and protestant ones right…Its so often and so much today nobody can deny this as fact.

        Therefore if you could locate a few people who have never yet been fed all the rest of what these pastors and churches teach of these issues, and those folks ONLY were shown a daily update of how often they will see and hear constant drum beat of pro jewisih and pro israel and end time events etc…PLUS how the Talmud and modern Judaism Revolves around and is surrounded BY Babylon issues and principals as I decribed etc…

        The ONLY Logical, Honest, Conclusion any sane normal people could answer you as to who IS that Mother Whore Babylon NWO gloabl One religion? and ALSO just WHO are Her “Harlot daughters” aka lesser important churches IN cahoots with their Mother whore aka like mommy like daughter eh!….Apples dont fall far from the Tree it grew on right folks?

        Their only honest answer could be in Fact…That what the book of Revelation is speaking of by “Whore of babylon” AND HER “Harlot Daughters” can only add up to..

        The Mother whore religion IS Talmudic zionist Judaism, and Its or Her Daughter Harlot churches in fact are ALL of those combined many Baptist and Protestant churches and their pastors and flocks…

        Because as noted jeruselem also sits on 7 Hills, which if I recall it right it was JAY JAY here that posted it as facts when I asked about it about a year ago or so…And is bibliclly confirmed to sit on 7 mountains also.

        It Is Fact the talmud is Babylonian since Day one. as Many Noted rabbis Brags of constantly.

        And it Is Fact that today and past 40 yrs at least 99% of All we all ever hear 24/7 nearly, about End days or end times Prophecy and events IS BY and FROM self apointed self claimed Baptist or protestant “Prophecy experts” who today Number so Many pastors as experts it boggles the mind trying to keep track of so many…

        Yet How Many like that are from that Vatican org or religion group?…Barly a Peep or mention ever.

        What IF those many ‘experts” are wrong?…What if instead of babylon mother whore as vatican, is actually really the Talmud religion, jeruselem, and its too many to count baptists and protestants churches that are those Daughter Harlots so similar to their MOTHER church, or, Synagouge?

        No other religious groups so promote jews or israel other than those I named here now eh…NO other religion has any references to Babylon in the Tite of their Holly Books, other than Babylon Talmud Judaism does eh.

        I think soon the worlds people are going to agree with this therory, and find out that Indeed what the Mother-whore of babylon and her Many harlot daughters are is as I described here…And wont That truly upset and Freek Out so Many folks of today.

        Then all we will her is a huge nationwide collective “Voice” saying under its breath..

        Oy Vehy! Decisions! decisions! Must quickly make decisions! because we have Fallen for mother whore Babylons enticeing Lies and as her daughter Harlots, which harlot Means also a whore, that just wont fly eh…

        PS: Note to Naysayers and foolish ones…Consider also the facts of just How Often those said Prophecy “Experts” of today and past 40 yrs have Had to so many times now, Change most of their prounounced expertize as promoted when OOOPPS! they again Failed and were discovered to be again WRONG!…If so many times already so wrong on expert analysis, why would they Not also be so very wrong about who and what the revelation books babylon mother whore and her daughter harlots realy are?

        IMHO…Yes indeed they are totally wrong and what I wrote makes much more logic and sense…only Time shall prove the real facts and truths…But one can at least come ‘close” to it so as to NOT waste more precious time inside another fraud “experts” conference and church right!

        • Sanballat,
          And so all Israel shall be saved…
          Romans 11:26

          • Your post is true about “all Israel shall be saved”.

            God’s chosen people is Israel, a collection of people who BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST and in the Bible
            god gave them a new name CHRISTIANS.

            You seem to think that Israel means the stolen state of Israeli and the jewish religion, their g-d, and their bible the talmud. THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, how can anyone believe they are the Israel that my GOD talks about in the Bible? They deny his son Jesus Christ is the Messiah, calling his Mother vile names, etc.

            You have to be a tribe member Grafique to keep up the your gibberish.

            • No, the inhabitants of today’s Israel ARE Jews, the same people who were dispersed by God.

              God promised repeatedly in the Bible that he would return his people, the Jews, to their land in the end times. Why is it so hard for you people to believe that God has kept his word?

              To say that the Church has replace the Jews is to fulfill Jesus’ words – “those who say they are Jews, but are not, the synagogue of Satan.”

          • Here’s what God says in Romans chapter 11 –

            Rom 11:20-27
            Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

            21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

            22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

            23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

            24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

            25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

            26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

            27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

            It is perfectly obvious that the Word of God here is talking about JEWISH ISRAEL. To pretend otherwise is to willfully close your eyes to the truth.

        • Them Guys,

          Isaiah 62:1

          For Zion’s sake I will not keep silent, and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not be quiet, until her righteousness goes forth as brightness, and her salvation as a burning torch.

      43. The elite have used the years after 2008 to prep for their own survival, while squeezing the juice out of the rest of us.

        They have access to the climate change, pole shift, water and energy data the rest of us only guess at.

      44. The Revised-Revised “Data”

        ISM ISSUES SECOND CORRECTION TO MAY FACTORY INDEX – NOW 55.4

        Zerohedge

      45. Wow. The ‘shell game’ continues to this moment and yet, most have no idea just how bad it really is.

        Don’t think your ‘future’ is rigged beyond belief?
        Look at these headlines from ZeroHedge site:

        What’s Wrong With This Seasonally Unrigged Picture?

        While the ISM (Institute for Supply Management), clearly unhappy with the bond buying following its first data release and whatever angry phone calls it received promptly after releasing the real data, revised its data to even more fudged and made up on the fly numbers, perhaps it would be a good idea to at least update its website at the same time as it confirms it has borrowed the goalseek.xls model from the Chinese department of truth.

        and now this:

        Ecuador Transfers Half Its Gold Reserves To Goldman Sachs In Exchange For “Liquidity”

        This is a great example of how the game works. In a world in which every government on earth needs “liquidity” to survive, and the primary goal of every government is and always has been survival (the retention of arbitrary power at all costs), the provider of liquidity is king. So what is liquidity and who provides it? …Ecuador agreed to transfer more than half its gold reserves to Goldman Sachs for three years as the government seeks to bolster liquidity…“Gold that was not generating any returns in vaults, causing storage costs, now becomes a productive asset that will generate profits,” the central bank said in the statement.

        The writing as they say…is on the wall.

        • Socraties

          In a few months Germany will get a little more of its gold back.

          Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

          You can’t beat exchanging paper for gold when Uncle Sam gives you the paper. Its robbery W/O a gun.

      46. The names of those in the United States targeted by the NSA. Snowden bagged 1.7 million documents; the list of who is being spied on will be published on his website, The Intercept.

        From Devvy Kidd article.

        Doesn’t say when.

      47. There seems to always be a “massive shock” coming in a “few years”.

        • Their ability to successfully “kick the can” down the road never ceases to amaze me. They may be very bad but they’re very good at doing it.

          • I agree.. makes me wonder if we’re all just deluding ourselves..I’ve been expecting the “big one” for several years now. That’s a long time to be pregnant with anticipation.

        • I’m Still waiting for his ww3 warning between May 28-June 5 ….like I said …..AINT HAPPENING

      48. LMFAO ….now it’s the COMING years ….if this ain’t an EYE OPENER for many of you then ya can’t be helped !!! Coming years …HAHAHAHAHA!!
        It’s always coming and it will always be just coming

        • Get a life and grow up.

      49. I’m just sitting here watching the birds and squirrels in my back yard waiting for the chicken to be done in the oven…and you know what? Life is good! It really is! The news sucks now more than ever but life is beautiful as I watch the evening sunshine shine through my maple leaves. It’s surreal the glowing light through the leaves, bright and clean. The wind breezes through them and makes that soft, low shuffling sound while the birds sing their last for the evening while pecking out their last meal.

        Chicken recipe:
        1 cut up chicken
        4TB butter
        3 cloves of garlic sliced or crushed
        1 can of chicken broth or 16 oz. of homemade broth
        salt/pepper
        sprinkle of oregano (fresh from your garden or dried)

        Place chicken in pan with garlic under it. Drizzle with butter, oregano and salt/pepper. Bake at 450 degrees for 25 minutes. Add broth and turn down oven to 300 degrees and bake for another 30minutes. Use broth from fresh baked chicken to make rice. (replace water for rice with chicken broth). Simple and delicious.

        Side note: Make sure to have a “cold one” (your choice, I like beer) while waiting.

        God Bless you all.

      50. I have been around this site for about three years…and, at first, all were about trading ideas regarding survival if/when shtf….and I stand behind the posts I made back then..and I will reiterate..THIS will be a BATTLE of GOOD vs EVIL….a great deal can be explained by the multiple negative comments regarding the Jewish people….soros was BORN a Jew, but is now an atheist…and it is he, along with others, who wish to bring down this Republic….HE IS NO LONGER A CHOSEN ONE….get it? HE exercised HIS free will…. So, all of you who spout against all of Zion…are, quite simply, wrong. There is “evil” coming our way, and soros is but one of many now….do not equate evil with the Chosen People….eh….many will not “get it” as they tend to lump all under the same umbrella….it is like saying in order to have “Faith” you must go to church….one does not dictate the other…
        fob

        • Perhaps I should attempt to explain this a bit….One is NOT born a Christian…they are either baptized as an infant or are baptized later in life….or accept Jesus as their Savior at any time within their life… A Jewish person is BORN a Jew, unless they RENOUNCE their birthright and due to Free Will, they are no longer God’s Chosen…..So those who wish to bring about the NWO, are in fact, NOT GOD’s Chosen…because they have renounced their birthright….get it? Hope so….because all of the hatred some have for ALL Jews will come back and bite them…because some assumptions they have are WRONG….
          fob

      51. This “market veteran” is a load of crap… How many times have we seen headlines saying DOOM DOOM DOOM in the financial markets and then NOTHING HAPPENS

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