This article has been generously contributed by Michael Snyder. You can follow his regular writings, research and analysis at The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. Read his recent book The Beginning of the End to get an idea of what America may look like in the very near future.
Are you on the list? Are you one of the millions of Americans that have been designated a threat to national security by the U.S. government? Will you be subject to detention when martial law is imposed during a major national emergency? As you will see below, there is actually a list that contains the names of at least 8 million Americans known as Main Core that the U.S. intelligence community has been compiling since the 1980s. A recent article on Washington’s Blog quoted a couple of old magazine articles that mentioned this program, and I was intrigued because I didn’t know what it was. So I decided to look into Main Core, and what I found out was absolutely stunning – especially in light of what Edward Snowden has just revealed to the world. It turns out that the U.S. government is not just gathering information on all of us. The truth is that the U.S. government has used this information to create a list of threats to national security that the government would potentially watch, question or even detain during a national crisis. If you have ever been publicly critical of the government, there is a very good chance that you are on that list.
The following is how Wikipedia describes Main Core…
Main Core is the code name of a database maintained since the 1980s by the federal government of the United States. Main Core contains personal and financial data of millions of U.S. citizens believed to be threats to national security. The data, which comes from the NSA, FBI, CIA, and other sources, is collected and stored without warrants or court orders. The database’s name derives from the fact that it contains “copies of the ‘main core’ or essence of each item of intelligence information on Americans produced by the FBI and the other agencies of the U.S. intelligence community.”
It was Christopher Ketchum of Radar Magazine that first reported on the existence of Main Core. At the time, the shocking information that he revealed did not get that much attention. That is quite a shame, because it should have sent shockwaves across the nation…
According to a senior government official who served with high-level security clearances in five administrations, “There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived ‘enemies of the state’ almost instantaneously.” He and other sources tell Radar that the database is sometimes referred to by the code name Main Core. One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.
Of course, federal law is somewhat vague as to what might constitute a “national emergency.” Executive orders issued over the last three decades define it as a “natural disaster, military attack, [or] technological or other emergency,” while Department of Defense documents include eventualities like “riots, acts of violence, insurrections, unlawful obstructions or assemblages, [and] disorder prejudicial to public law and order.” According to one news report, even “national opposition to U.S. military invasion abroad” could be a trigger.
So if that list contained 8 million names all the way back in 2008, how big might it be today?
That is a very frightening thing to think about.
Later on in 2008, Tim Shorrock of Salon.com also reported on Main Core…
Dating back to the 1980s and known to government insiders as “Main Core,” the database reportedly collects and stores — without warrants or court orders — the names and detailed data of Americans considered to be threats to national security. According to several former U.S. government officials with extensive knowledge of intelligence operations, Main Core in its current incarnation apparently contains a vast amount of personal data on Americans, including NSA intercepts of bank and credit card transactions and the results of surveillance efforts by the FBI, the CIA and other agencies. One former intelligence official described Main Core as “an emergency internal security database system” designed for use by the military in the event of a national catastrophe, a suspension of the Constitution or the imposition of martial law.
So why didn’t this information get more attention at the time?
Well, if Obama had lost the 2008 election it might have. But Obama won in 2008 and the liberal media assumed that he would end many of the abuses that were happening under Bush. Of course that has not happened at all. In fact, Obama has steadily moved the police state agenda ahead aggressively. Edward Snowden has just made that abundantly clear to the entire world.
After 2008, it is unclear exactly what happened to Main Core. Did it expand, change names, merge with other programs or get superseded by a new program? It appears extremely unlikely that it simply faded away. In light of what we have just learned about NSA snooping, someone should ask our politicians some very hard questions about Main Core. According to Christopher Ketchum, the exact kind of NSA snooping that Edward Snowden has just described was being used to feed data into the Main Core database…
A host of publicly disclosed programs, sources say, now supply data to Main Core. Most notable are the NSA domestic surveillance programs, initiated in the wake of 9/11, typically referred to in press reports as “warrantless wiretapping.” In March, a front-page article in the Wall Street Journal shed further light onto the extraordinarily invasive scope of the NSA efforts: According to the Journal, the government can now electronically monitor “huge volumes of records of domestic e-mails and Internet searches, as well as bank transfers, credit card transactions, travel, and telephone records.” Authorities employ “sophisticated software programs” to sift through the data, searching for “suspicious patterns.” In effect, the program is a mass catalog of the private lives of Americans. And it’s notable that the article hints at the possibility of programs like Main Core. “The [NSA] effort also ties into data from an ad-hoc collection of so-called black programs whose existence is undisclosed,” the Journal reported, quoting unnamed officials. “Many of the programs in various agencies began years before the 9/11 attacks but have since been given greater reach.”
The following information seems to be fair game for collection without a warrant: the e-mail addresses you send to and receive from, and the subject lines of those messages; the phone numbers you dial, the numbers that dial in to your line, and the durations of the calls; the Internet sites you visit and the keywords in your Web searches; the destinations of the airline tickets you buy; the amounts and locations of your ATM withdrawals; and the goods and services you purchase on credit cards. All of this information is archived on government supercomputers and, according to sources, also fed into the Main Core database.
This stuff is absolutely chilling.
And there have been hints that such a list still exists today.
For example, the testimony of an anonymous government insider that was recently posted on shtfplan.com alluded to such a list…
“We know all this already,” I stated. He looked at me, giving me a look like I’ve never seen, and actually pushed his finger into my chest. “You don’t know jack,” he said, “this is bigger than you can imagine, bigger than anyone can imagine. This administration is collecting names of sources, whistle blowers and their families, names of media sources and everybody they talk to and have talked to, and they already have a huge list. If you’re not working for MSNBC or CNN, you’re probably on that list. If you are a website owner with a brisk readership and a conservative bent, you’re on that list. It’s a political dissident list, not an enemy threat list,” he stated.
What in the world is happening to America?
What in the world are we turning into?
As I mentioned in a previous article, the NSA gathers 2.1 million gigabytes of data on all of us every single hour. The NSA is currently constructing a 2 billion dollar data center out in Utah to store all of this data.
If you are disturbed by all of this, now is the time to stand up and say something. If this crisis blows over and people forget about all of this stuff again, the Big Brother surveillance grid that is being constructed all around us will just continue to grow and continue to become even more oppressive.
America is dying right in front of your eyes and time is running out. Please stand up and be counted while you still can.
Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years. Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.
I think I just made the list!!!
Welcome!
Mac
Since all of us ,including you, are definitely on the list..my question is this…
How will we know when the purge starts?
Will it be quietly one by one when we are whisked away in the cover of night?
Or will it be like Boston with thousands of le converging on town by town,media blackout,lockdown imposed?
possee
I think I answered by my second question..
Boston was the trial balloon..perfect execution
door to door warrant less searches
media blackout
no resistance
complete compliance
everyone cheered
how friggin quaint ..
possee
No resistance may be a misnomer–strict gun control in MA pretty much precludes any effective resistance. Things may work out differently in other cities…
They need an event like the Marathon bombing to get people to comply. had they tried this without that not only would the residents have resisted but I am betting most of the cops and national guard would have as well. They need the crisis and hot pursuit to get people feeling they are doing their civic duty.
The only difference is that the trucks will roll in with soldiers and roll out with detainees.
If you’re not reading this from a shitty web connection in the sticks then you’re a sitting duck.
Unless you’re planning on becoming a martyr when they go door to door. If so, best of luck. There’s a special place reserved for you on the other side.
I think once they try to collect people, their going to find out the hard way.
Don’t look now, but it was the National Guard that was killing unarmed college students 40 years ago under Nixon. Military people–even “citizen soldiers”– generally do what their officers order them to do.
Anyone got any idea what they do when we are ALL on the list? Do they just use the Cencis data? They could just put a fence around the country and that would put us all in jail, but that would keep out the illegals and I want to do that. When we outnumber them wouldn’t it be a lot easier to put themselves in jail? I’m so confused.
Now that is to true and to funny!!
I was admiring that pretty picture at the top of this article and started to think a fence like that one on the southern boarder would take care Immigration Reform. Then another thought popped to mind. All the overpaid Gov. employees could get off their asses and build it from the south side. When they are finished we would never have to hear from them again.
Something fishy with the Snowden story, something doesn’t smell right. Are we being distracted, is this some sort of psyop? The guy is only 29, and a high school drop out who was a security guard who then moved all the way up through cia and nsa???
Do you think Snowden was paid by the real leaker? They say only a few dozen people had access to the Court Order.
So did someone use Snowden to protect himself/herself? Or did China hack the info and use Snowden to stir up the US population? Or is this the start of a false flag operation?
Anyone have any ideas?
BJ: That info caught my eye too, but they are many basement geeks without degrees that have serious computer skills that they develop while associated with the “hacker community”.
These types often are highly intelligent with amazing skills and a natural curiosity which they apply towards IT.
I know one.
My guess is that he could demonstrate his proficiency and mave have taken some CISCO courses; which is how he likely got his job to start with. He may have moved up the ladder by demonstrating his skill.
You do not need a degree to play chess; just a mind capable of understanding the rules and grasping the complexities of the game.
This is all TRUE. However, it has been going on a very long time and I should think patriots realize it. So, NOW the Media COOPERATES in raising a big stink about this to DISTRACT from something more insidious, more evil, more detrimental to freedom. The UN GUN BAN? WW III About to start in Syria? You all know NOBODY will be arrested, let alone tried and/or convicted for this crime.
You are right. wellaware1.com did a story he believes Snowden is a Greenberg family member.
The name SNOWDEN, weird but all of their fake names are.
BJ you are correct they are up to something everytime
something happens they distract the mass with some bullshit the people buy it then bam
it’s a distraction. too much going on against obama – they had to do something to get the attention off the irs issue, benghazi & everything else that has come up against obama (that the news won’t report properly because the scandals make the first black prez look bad!) him & his paranoid evil sudistic dems in washington are up to no good. distroying this country!
Very doubtful that Snowden was a high school dropout and worked for the NSA or even a contractor. This is more likely an attempt to discredit him, and the information he has leaked. Also doubtful he worked for a contractor; he’s NSA all the way. Way too much info leaked to be a contractor. He probably lived in government housing as well, so don’t believe everything they are saying about him. I suspect they will slowly try to change the optics about him as this develops, because the information leaked is so explosive.
Makes you wonder how smart our NSA, CIA & FBI are if they let this guy get by them.. I believe it is all set up just like all the other news stuff going on to make us look left when it is the right hand doing the dirty work… The UN and the democrats in Washington is killing America. They need all the illegals to make their plan work. Yep I am more then likely on the list being ex military who swore to defend the Constitution of the REPUBLIC OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
this guy was a spy hince the dumb down backgroud an yet such high clearence
Snowden is a master hacker. Master hacker’s are in short supply at the moment in America. They will recruit any high school drop-out for that very skill as long as they they haven’t gone to the other side of the fence for example Anonymous. Most hackers make it to be elite, but only a few make it to The Master Hacker status. They hired him for his computer skills only, they weren’t concerned about his high school or college education. Truth is, they need people capable of Master Hacking and not everybody has the brain to do this.
i’ve always thought that the fema camps are not for us, its for them to be protected from us
nomi
p.s. hey nsa go fuck yourselves
Barbed wire/razor wire faces IN. Whoever is “inside” is meant to be kept there for the short duration of “their” stay.
yental
if you look at the pic above its coiled razor wire.
if youve ever tried to climb over razor it dont matter wich way its angled, try it some time
n.s.a. GFY
They make Soap… Ever watch the old movie Soylant Green, Might give you an idea. Monsanto taking over food production in America… Not trying to be a conspiracy monger here, but if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck…
To much wierd shite happening in America now to disregard anything. Best to have your bug-out-bag at hand, a couple of exit strategies, and a willingness to move at even the slightest hint.
Also recommend setting your hides in various locals so you can gain access to at least one if not more. My feeling is it’s going to get pretty ugly before anything, if anything can return us to a state of normality.
If you are not in the 10% of the population that profit from and support the NWO program, then you are a useless eater and disposable; as 90% of the wealth of America resides in the top ten percent. (And that data is pre-crash data).
The bottom 90% ? You are grist for the mill. Engage.
@dk
exactly right dk!!! i don’t know why anyone would think tptb are going to lock them up and supply them with the very water & food that will be in short supply…they want every last penny, every last drop of water and every last morsel of food…news flash!!! the tptb are not givers they are takers and will not waste those supplies on the people who they want dead!!! why is it so damn hard to understand this simple fact???
The Portland OR police have kept a database for decades, despite the fact that keeping info on citizens is illegal here. They will tell you they don’t, so I wouldn’t be surprised if any PPB chime in here, to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about…
Oregon law says they can’t keep data on PEOPLE, but the database is arranged by ADDRESS. In short, they can pull up all of the names of everyone ASSOCIATED in any way, with any ADDRESS. Former owners, renters, friends and family, all of it called up from a simple street address, including a cross of their criminal histories, if any.
There’s no telling how much they’ve added to their database that they won’t admit they have. I know this by first-hand experience from the early 1990’s.
My sub-point is, if we force them to stop THIS infringement, they’ll just transfer the data into some other form, much like they did with Echelon and that other database congress THINKS it dissolved decades ago.
The answer is to DESTROY IT ALL, starting with Utah.
It’s called the census,I cannot believe how personal they have become…all our data right there filled out by us…
You can find all that out by your voters registration page for your state. I tried it on me and it shows any voter ever register for my address.
To the others who replied to this………I did not fill out the long form census. I just told them that two adult people live here. The bastards hounded me for a couple of months to complete the questionnaire. I just said no……..
hey census snoops, GFY 😉
okay, ileo, but that doesn’t explain why the portland police keep that info in their database, or why they use it to identify suspects.
Them in a camp would be a green zone, a conversation I’ve had with their people, “will you fed troops all green zone up, or be taken in the night by your neighbors, your own family?
They trip on that one, nobody ever said feds were smart. but its an obvious outcome.
PATRIOT Act author suddenly shocked by powers he created
“The now-outspoken critic Sensenbrenner was the original author of the PATRIOT Act, according to Fox News. He’s complaining (in defense of himself, no doubt) that Obama’s “abuse” is a “really big deal” and was “never the intent” of his law.
But he should know better. He’s the one who wrote it. And when he did, he specifically changed the section of U.S. Code which now allows the government to require communications companies to divulge information. “Excessive,” eh? But how broadly was that statute written?”
American Vision dot org
Direct link…
http://americanvision.org/8279/patriot-act-author-suddenly-shocked-by-powers-he-created/
That statute says…
“A governmental entity may require a provider of remote computing service to disclose the contents of ANY wire or electronic communication to which this paragraph is made applicable. . . .”
He’s just covering his dirty tracks.
Thought Joe the moron Biden created the patriot act….
“I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill,”
I hate pigs. Yet I love to eat bacon, particularly in the mornings and often with my burgers.
Anybody know why pork prices are going through the roof recently???
Ethanol! Rather than drill more oil our government decided it is better to plant more GM corn to make into ethanol. More acreage devoted to ethanol, means less acreage for animal and human food, thus higher feed costs and higher food costs.
That’s why I hate all P.I.G.s, especially those that have 3 letters as their acronyms.
Their fat asses eat too many donuts, steal my taxpayer money, and then use all of the difference to spy on me.
Can you say Main Core MoFos?!
ethanol is bad for your car. and it makes your gas mileage go way down. with gas prices so high it all is falling into place. anyone smell a tyranny that sheep think is a democracy?
And the GMO grains fed to the pigs steriizes the reproductive system and not just pigs, They are slowly poisoning you too
The feed prices were way up last fall, Drought in the Mid-West and South West; the pork prices were way down until about February, but began to rapidly rise since then. Bacon has been high because of demand for the last year though. Beef is way up too if you hadn’t noticed……..
Standing by in SC out!
Probably sending a lot of it to China.
Some Chinese company bought Smithfield ham company don’t now if that has anything to do with it.
no shit? their sausage is awesome, sorry to hear that.
Could have something to do with China trying to buy the largest pork producer in the US at the moment
I bet Paul Revere is barfing in his grave; all that he Boston citizens rolled over.
If a half dozen or so families said hell no he’s not here and you are not getting w/o a warrent and some shooting started it would cause martial law overnight. And when those 1000 SWAT/LE got bogged down in a urban Ruby Ridge who would be protecting their home & their family. nuff said
How many could be gathered up in one night? 50,000? Something on that scale across the land would be impossible to hide.
At some point even Forrest Gump has to say, “Hay the government is up to something and its not right”.
When you think of how this NWO is evolving out in the open now, it makes you realize that we have been nothing more than a grand experiment in the works for more years than any of us could imagine. What we are privy to now is minute, there is so much more that we will never know in our life time. It is mind boggling when you think about the manipulation and the deceitful way that we have been brainwashed. Who can stop this now, our lives are not now and have never been free, our food comes from monsters who know how to control us physically and mentally. This is the stuff that nightmares are made of but it’s real, I feel like a laboratory rat, being experimented on, being looked at under a microscope and having nowhere to hide or be free.
They want to corrupt us to the point where we will denounce God, embrace vile, perverted, disgusting human behavior and allow them raise our children through further brainwashing in the public school system.
Knowledge is the key to opening the iron door, they will stop at nothing to keep the key away from us. Drones, phone surveillance, banking surveillance, internet surveillance, spies reporting anyone who does not conform to the New World Order.
They could completely destroy most of the population within a week by poisoning our food and water. Sound a bit loony or over the top? NO! Not anymore, they have us where they want us now, helpless, ignorant, dependent and vulnerable. They are quickly disarming us and making us completely and pathetically vulnerable to whatever they have in mind.
The next few weeks could be life changing, time will tell. Keep your Family close, keep your mouth shut and get ready, for what, I don’t know but something is not right.
When you accept the fact that we are not viewed as intelligent, deserving or equal to TPTB, then you will know how easy it is for them to simply get rid of the trouble makers. They are playing God, only their God is friends with the devil. I hope one day to see them fall off their ivory pedestals and be devoured by the devil himself because little do they know that they are his prize, he can not wait to torture them for an eternity. In the end, they are the ones being played and manipulated by the devil himself.
The meek shall inherit the earth.
They could completely destroy most of the population within a week by poisoning our food and water.
American biochemist Dean Burk, after his retirement, devoted himself to his opposition to water fluoridation According to Burk “fluoridation is a form of public mass murder.
Yup just waiting for the day when we are told hackers sent a lethal dosage of fluoride into 1 or more cities water supply…
I was all with you until the “vile human behavior” statement, I’m not gay but would love it if people like you stopped tormenting the innocent. Other than that we probably agree on everything.
For what it’s worth….I’m making my own list.
Me too, and i don’t have to write it down…
collaborators always the first cold bore shot.
Lots of real Americans are Walt.
without remorse.
When they came for the Gypsies I did nothing
When they came for the Communists I did nothing
When they came for the Trade Unionist I did nothing
When they came for the for the Catholics I did nothing
When they came for the Jews I did nothing
When they came for my Neighbors I did nothing
When they came for me there was no one left
See something, Say something!
Standing by in SC out!
They have been coming for people for a long time .
When college costs exploded , you did ?
When fico scores punished people , you did ?
When someone went to work for unicor for a dollar a day , you did ?
You did nothing at all cept preach fiscal austerity for “those people”.
get over yourself
Squeeze Me?
I’m not sure I’m smart enough to understand your post M.
Remember I’m just a backward redneck here so a lot of what you high faluten people with all the letters after your names is totally lost on me…….
Standing by in SC out!
And then communists came for you…
When they came for the Trade Union bosses, I said nothing.
When they came for the Socialists, I said nothing.
When they came for the Communists, I said nothing.
When they came for the Gangs, I said nothing.
When they came for the Illegals, I said nothing.
And you what, pretty soon, things got better.
@possee,I’m not on the list! Just because I post here doesn’t mean I’m on a list! I support President Obama! I’m a gov paid troll I tell ya!! I swear!!!
Macs govt insider will let him know before the purge starts there, pussee…….uh, possee.
jellie roll?
They will appear as hordes of school buses early in the a.m. hours. They will exit the buses and raid homes . The detainees will be wisked away on the same bus , etc. My theory.
More than likely all communication will be severed when it begins. They will not want anyone to be warned of their coming. Those not on the list will see this as a warning to keep their mouths shut or risk being taken themselves…
The internet will go down, there will be media Black outs, and you may loose cell and land line phone service. This will prevent the news from getting out and the well armed 143 Million Americans from being ready.
Boston was the best example of Tyranny put onto the American people, but it can be stopped. Millions of Americans must stand up to thousands of Barry’s SS Troops !
If Barack Hussein Obama is anything like his mentor, Stalin, People will be gulaged by being whisked away in the middle of the night. That’s how they did it in the USSR. Of course, the Russians didn’t have the firepower we have here. But having it and using it are two different things. One takes cash, the other takes spine.
Attrition will SAP their spine quickly.
another mentor of Obama’s was Frank Marshall Davis, a known card-carrying communist. I believe he was on some type of list too… And me posting this comment probably put me on the same list
@ Mac. I have been on the list since they first started it, and do you know what, GOOD. To be on that list shows that you are a free thinker, a maverick, someone with something behind them. To not be on that list means that someone is an absolute nobody that the government considers like a cow in a herd. Someone that is not on that list is totally expendable. If you are on that list, you at least have something that the bad guys consider a problem or something that can be used. Not that working for the mafia government is at all a good thing, but at least it might prevent you from getting killed right away like a sheeple would.
Besides all of this, being on that list means that the government considers you a type of F- U to the system type of person, and that is cool. As you said Mac, WELCOME ABOARD SCREW THE CONFORMIST TRAIN. 🙂 🙂
I have read that the Pol Pot regime exterminated those who were even sophisticated enough to own eyeglasses.
You are correct, sir.
mam, but thanks.
PolPot was a early trial for America look how the kids are acting give them what they want and they will sell you out
@Be informed,
Again permit me to thank you for your posting, your labors are appreciated. Two quotes I hope you will find to your liking.
I believe that being despised by the despiecable is as good as being admired by the admirable.
-Kurt Hoffmann-
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
-George Orwell-
“When there is a boot on your neck- does it matter if it’s the left or right boot?”
just to let ya know which side the main artery runs on when ya cut through it./the left side bleeds out quicker
BI,
What’s the status on the latest earthquake situation? Anyway you could get a TwEEter account or something 🙂 You don’t even have to follow people, just send out updates:-) They already know where we sleep, so that doesn’t matter!
Cheers
@BeUninformed– you better stick to earthquakes there pal..your posts are getting so screwy I think you are seriously losing it. Yes, you are such a valuable assett the Govt would send for you personally.
Your a few cans short of a six pack…
and dangerous it sounds like.
AFTER WWII, THE LIST WAS JUST PUT ON HOLD AND WAS NEVER REALLY ENDED.
PHONE CALLS RECORDING WERE DONE SINCE THE DAY THEY ESTABLISHED THE FBI. IT HAS BEEN GETTING WORST WITH THE IMPROVEMENT IN TECHNOLOGY.
Ah… The list, such a warm and welcoming place to be.
And people think I’m crazy for trying to work on ammo and other devices that will penetrate armor, or scatter JBT teams into a million pieces? hmmm…
Yes, we know you… we see you trolling, we see and we know. Socialist scum, when the time comes, it will become;
Open Season on scum.
Do not hesitate fellow listees, understand that he who hesitates is DEAD.
To the Trolls; Do you have families too? Do you love your families? A man should protect his family, and that goes double for you. Is this a threat? You damn right it is, it is also a biblical principle. But none of us intend to draw first blood, so you will be the Bad guys… understand that, and make peace with your demon god, for on that night, you will next dine in hell.
molon labe
+1
Molon Labe
MAC,I have gotten phone calls from all over the country,what I’am hearing ain’t good,WE GOT HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS of foreign troops flying into every military base in america,this LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE A “RED DAWN” invasion of america,I guess OBAMA don’t want to go to prison,and a war in america would protect him,and the bible says he’ll do just that…………………
Hey Mac have you seen this?
http://silverdoctors.com/in-my-country-they-claimed-surveillance-was-for-the-safety-of-the-people-same-in-soviet-russia-same-in-east-germany/
Standing by in SC out!
Lets see, i am a disabled, Vietnam Veteran, white, gun owner, christian, married and log into infowars, steve quayle, stan deyo and listen to patriot network on satelite. I also belong to the NRA, VFW, Legion, Firearms safety instructor,,think I made the list?
MADE the list…?
Heck Tom – your name’s at the top.
Just be sure not to visit stormfront.org or you will definitely be tracked and “list fodder”.
Welcome aboard brother!
My name was reported to be at the top and underscored three times. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Seriously, I don’t let this worry me at all. I remain vigilant (as I should). LDS, you’re amongst fine company.
If being a constitution loving fiscally responsible American puts me on a list, put me down proudly. Being a gun loving, ex military, CCW carrying, and Christian just high lights my name on the list.
I believe the active duty military have made the list.
Topic/training on line for all DOD personnel, has this statement: Foundation of the Army Ethic (ready?):
Legal foundations include: U.S. Constitution, U.S. Code, Law of Land Warfare, UCMJ. THEN The Moral & Ethical foundations include: The U.S. Declaration of Independence…
Two different cultures within the Gov’t.
DRD5508 if you are a outdoorsman, christen, patriot and
anything that is normal you are on the list that means all of us here welcome to the revolution
swampratt, all of the above applies. I was on the list a long time ago. (use to be on christian radio). Anyways, thanks for the laugh you gave me ‘..and anything that is normal..’. Agree 100%
I have been in the revolution since Ruby Ridge. Then we have Oklahoma City, Waco, 911. It just intensified my place in the revolt.
DOD is totally different from the rest of the govt. especially organizations that are mixed military and civilian. No where near as much nonsense.
Latter Day Saints?
No, he was making reference to another post by Led_Dis_Spencer. Try looking back before typing…..
try not being an asshole
F@CK THEM! They should concern themselves with OUR LIST! American Patriots and Constitutionalists are the right side of G-D. Those doing this to America are NOT!
Fuck Bush and Obama!
Since this started or actually came out in 1980, you better go back much farther than Bush and Obama. In fact these lists were around when Edgar Hoover was in power. Don’t fool yourself, this has been going on for ions.
Oh I have no doubt im on the list I knew when I was targeted by the IRS recently that goes back to 2008 .with no reasonable cause .Sounds like the movie RED DAWN nothing suprises me anymore .God will have his day ! God Bless us all. Guess what guys God Wins in the End !
Fuck you scum government. Good luck fighting us all when the time comes. I promise to give you hell until I am dead and many of you are going with me.
Me too!
the way I see it in the I may die but I will take as
many of the low life BASTARDS with me
where do i find this list???
If I am on it, they will have to come to the Philippines to get me. And then find me, and the other 250,000 Americans that live here.
The Federal government has declared war on the American people. It’s time to pick up your rifles and defend your country, your homes, and your families. Anyone still working for this government is a traitor to the Constitution and the American People, and they are your enemy. Anyone STILL working for the NSA, FBI, ATF, IRS, Secret Service, or politician that has done nothing about Obama’s fake ID or the government’s transgression of the Constitution should be on your list – and that includes the so-called TEA party “conservatives” who have done Nothing to defend the Constitution they swore an oath to defend. The time is now people, or learn to be content in your slavery.
I Know that I’m going to be on the list now and I don’t care cause this is my country and I as an american have every right to say what I want to say!! I think America has slowly been going down hill for yrs now people are just to blind to see it or they just don’t want to. I do know a few of those people that just don’t want to know the truth of it all. It’s going to be a sad day for many when it all finally comes crashing down.
IKR
eventually we All die
some choose to Die on their knees
others choose to Die with their boots on and a hot gun in their hand fighting for their Right to Live Learn Love Exist Free of Zionist Fascist Jew Tyranny
an i’m not one to go dying on my knee’s to a bunch of fake wanna be zionist jews and rainbow brite boy lovin’ homo’s idea of global NWO government
so put me on that list at the very top
cause i’m coming for you ZIONIST LOVIN TRAITOROUS MUTHAPUCKERS
WAR HAS BEEN DECLARED UPON THE ONCE FREE NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZENS
NOW IS THE TIME TO ‘TAKE UP ARMS’ AND DEFEND YOURSELVES FROM A ZOG TRAITOROUS FALSE PRESIDENT AND ZIONIST JEW BANKER FASCISM .
I WILL NOT COMPLY .
LOCK AND LOAD once free AMERICA its time to FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE NWO ZOG FEDGOV TYRANNY and ISRAEHELL ZIONIST JEW GLOBAL TERRORISM !!!
GOD WILLS IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
N.O.;0p
@Enemy of the State,
DHS says, You’re under arrest per NDAA for inciting domestic terrorism and making terroristic threats via electronic device. You’re also catching s*** for conspiracy and getting a tax audit for possible failure to comply with Obama care Mandates requiring (4)gal of red Kool-Aid to be consumed daily. The death panel also says your illegal free speech outburst is a result of inadequate levels of red#40 in your diet. By relocating you to a FEMA Camp you will get the proper welfare treatment that you need to be a good comrade of the state!
Tell em’ to pack a Lunch …
N.O. :0p
Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Benjamin Franklin was the Aleister Crowley of his day. Franklin has no credibility as a commentator about God.
Why do you mention God after you blaspheme Jesus Christ? You’re no Christian. You’re going to be among those thrown into the lake of fire unless you repent.
Truth is strong enough by itself. Foul language is unnecessary anywhere and sinful when using the name of God.
George Carlin – 7 dirty words (best part)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbZhpf3sQxQ
@Barn Cat,
There’s no use. I’ve tried. “Enemy of the State” will have to just figure out what to do all alone when a MRAP and Black Helmets crashes through his wall and still tells him he’s not on their team. That’s right! Enemy of the State these, Nazis aren’t your kind of nazi’s don’t, be fooled!
George Carlin – Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqvLTJfYnik
Jesus Chases The Money Changers Out of The Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEtBs6j7QgU
Jesus of Nazerath
God of War
Chases The Money Changers Out of The Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEtBs6j7QgU
Man anyone that wants to change the status quo is on our side, keep our religions at home, the good we do is what will save us, and now its time to fight the status quo and the corporations behind them
I agree with your post, unfortunately the line drawn by religion is perhaps the deepest of all. Notice how often non christians are referenced as amoral or pawns of satan. Notice how often the fight for freedom is couched in religous terms. It is easy to understand how easily an American taliban could rise in our own nation. The person often does not come into consideration, just the claimed belief system. You might want to get ready to claim, I believe, because from the context of how many of the christians frame what they see coming, if you don’t, you are in trouble.
“He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas”
– Benjamin Franklin’s Poor Richard’s Almanack
“You should be cautious of the company you keep. Associating with those of low reputation may not only lower your own but also lead you astray by the faulty assumptions, premises and data of the unscrupulous.”
This article (Link below)tells about a few TN patriots (aka TN rednecks) who still believe in freedom. Read the article at http://bradleycountynews.wordpress.com/2013/ then scroll down to “Modern day revolution in Manchester TN, like our forefathers, sparked with outrage and passion.”
Modern day revolution in Manchester TN, like our forefathers, sparked with outrage and passion
Looking back at the American Revolution John Adams concluded in 1818:
“The Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people … This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution.”
The subtle yet constant hints of a modern day revolution are surfacing in the United States as the Federal Government seizes more control of the states and the communities within our constitutional republic. The push back by Citizens on an empirical government has begun.
The Constitution was written to protect us from a tyrannical government, not used to institute laws and opinions to restrain the people and limit freedoms for any special groups or sects of Americans, it is for us all. I have rights also!
Subtle uprisings as seen in Manchester Tennessee are popping up all over the country. Passion is running high and we are on the crest of a movement set on securing our future.
Still in it’s infancy the steady drumbeat of revolution is seeping into conscious thought as a way to overcome an empirical Washington, the elitist, loyalist or Tories if you will, to tighten control on the farmer, the peasant, the patriot.
On display enmasse last evening at the Manchester Convention Center was a group of well over a thousand patriots gathered in one room. In this setting, I witnessed a clash of two different ideologies and political systems. Read more at link.
I figured the first revolution shot would have been fired from either Tn or texas…..Since the Alamo still rings loud in our ears.Tennesseeans have Always been first to volunteer for a fight,and Texans just love shooting their guns.
@ Barn Cat –
Judgmental folks, such as yourself, are the primary reason that I gave up on “organized” religion 40 + years ago. When did either God or Jesus Christ appoint you to speak for them and pass judgement on others? In doing so, you are actually condemning yourself. Your conduct is contrary to how you are explicitly instructed to act by the authority that you reference.
That being said, kindly concern yourself with your own salvation and leave my PERSONAL relationship with God & Jesus alone.
Thank you, my sentiments exactly all the way through,
Live and let live eh,
George Carlin – Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqvLTJfYnik
blow me you self righteous prick …
Passion of the Christ – Whipping Scene (Third Day)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4jxkoXp2U
Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children,
brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their
grandchildren are once more slaves. ~D.H. Lawrence
It’s amazing how the self righteous Christians are so quick to play the hellfire card when in truth Jesus never referred to he’ll and neither did Paul.
Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
I guess Ben’s God didn’t mind gays. And Jefferson’s God had no problem with adulterous men and slave owners who proclaim “All men are created equal” but didn’t practice it. Why do people persist in honoring a bunch of men who wrote what they could not even honor themselves. I guess I am on that list as well.
George Carlin – 7 dirtyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbZhpf3sQxQ words (best part)
The slaveowners of tomorrow are the Walmart shoppers of today.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to god
Thomas Jefferson
tell us tell us …
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SMALL_tellustellus.jpg
So you say “GOD WILLS IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” ?
If God willed it, it would have been done. He is not weak; as to need us to do anything he wants and he’s not desperate as to need you as his messenger.
Good put us on a list so whoever is not on a list is who we go after.
Well I may help run one of these “camps”. Imagine the look on there faces when at the opertune time I open the gate ( like in the original Red Dawn) and everyone runs free. And yes there could be a truckload of state of the art bang bang waiting for these free men and women to use on there captors… just sayin. By the way FEMA does not have camps. They can barly run what they have which is why they have FEMA reserve and SURGE teams to back them on large events. These camps, (if and when they go into service) will be run by much harsher people. Mr. Snowden is a hero and I hope there are more like him…. It is getting weirder than a sci fi movie so prep, pray, and build relasionships with like minded people. You would be suprised on how many people are turning FROM the dark side and waking up….
@man on the inside,
They already know who you are! You’re screwed! Like the rest of us. 🙂
Take over the fema camps and put all the dems in them. They are just commie traitors.
funny how they may be preparing a place for us, but just may end up using it themselves. Sometimes the dog does bite the hand that feeds it.
Why put them in prison camps?
I’d suggest we just get a lot of rope and discover another use for utility poles.
Amen Walt.
The idea is to KILL evil, not compromise with it or coddle it. When this hits, you will not have enough resources to FEED THE BASTARDS and yourselves.
And Walt is right, don’t waste ammo on ’em either… its so much more satisfying to see their feet jangle and struggle, to do to them what they would do to you…
I still got those spools of climbing line im willing to contribute!
1/4 mile roll electric fence wire, tensile strength 70,000 psi $12.99
So imprison or just outright kill your political enemies?
Do you intend to sound just like the assholes who run our country?
Replace tyranny with tyranny, just one you agree with. How quaint.
All I can ask is that you go back and read these comments.
Generalized label for enemy, check.
Dehumanize and demonize “them”, check.
Whip up the zealots into a frenzy, check.
Murder your fellow man and feel good about it, pending.
Can we assume you claim to be the “good guys”?
@common sense….
Why don’t you just go lick the boots of your lords?
It’s obvious you don’t have the courage to take a stand.
It’s gutless wonders like you that enable the tyrants. People like yourself have been useless in any struggle for freedom that has ever taken place.
I do not acknowledge anyone as lord over me and thus have no boots to lick.
Strange how I take a stand against what I see as wrong and you use it as an excuse to claim I am unwilling to take a stand.
If by “gutless wonder” you mean I am unwilling to commit atrocities upon my fellow man then so be it. Otherwise I see no point in trying to act tough on the internet. People like yourself have served tyrants throughout history. They can always find a use for someone willing to commit brutality upon others.
As to my usefullness I do not think you are in any position to judge that as you know so very little about who I am. I intentionally refrain from stating much in the way of actual facts about myself as I find it humourous when people start assuming things about me and as this is the internet the bullshit level is so high one needs a scuba tank to survive so I see no point in attempting to create an internet personality as it is as pointless as tits on a hog. But I hope you enjoy this little beating of your chest and showing off how tough and manly you are. It proves exactly fucking zero and we both know it.
@common sense….
You are worthless to the cause of the restoration of this Republic.
That’s all I need to know.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
—Samuel Adams–
They have killed millions of good people, destroyed human values, pissed trillions of dollars down a fucking rat hole for their own benefit and have perpetrated the most underhanded, gutless crime humanity has ever seen.
Their painfully excruciating death is the wish of many.
Eye for an eye…It works for me.
Back the constitution, you live, subvert it, you don’t. YOU, don’t have approve. You just have to participate.
it’s just a natural reaction. how do you feel when someone is trying to take something that’s yours.
“And our flag was still there”
Another NSA troll making a lame attempt to distract us with partisanship bickering. They want us to keep arguing about libtards and repubicans and forget about the shadow government.
Ron Paul Blasts NSA Defenders: Surveillance Destroying Constitution, You’re Justifying Dictatorship
peace
Hes makin a list and checkin it twice gonna find out whos naughty or nice, satans spawn is coming to town
@Boss Hog,
Lol nice! I don’t wanna know what’s in my stocking. I’ll leave the fireplace going that way his creepy ass gets burned trying to come down the chimney! Leave some “Castor bean” by-product in the cookies too and a couple 12ga trip wires in the hallway 😉
@BuzzFix
Fires the Devils only friend, according to Don Maclean “American Pie”
Boss Hog,
I LIKE THAT…!
There’s another list that’s being compiled, this list
isn’t on a supercomputer or in a mega complex but rather
is being compiled and stored in the minds of freedom loving men and the header on this list reads
“WANTED FOR TREASON”
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
Wanted for treason
DEAD OR DEAD
Put me down for camp FEMA. I better be on this list, I’ve been very naughty in the eyes of the DHS.
Come and get met, almost Swiss cheese time.
The sooner the better.
I CONFESS!!! I’m a porn addict! I’M A Gun Nut! And, And I Love ROCK N’ ROLL!! I hate Communists too! Aren’t I an American??? I thought that was being an American?? Guess that’s what FEMA-Ed is for. I never was one for showing up to school so, I don’t know what they’ll do about me? Guess that’s what Drones are for. I, I FIGURED IT OUT!!! Drones. Drones are the new truancy enforcers but, this time you don’t pay a fine. You pay with your life! That seems pretty harsh and cruel. That’s Communism though. You don’t go with the flow you go by-by. You don’t like BO you, go by-by. You don’t like Bo the dog? You get your lawn s*** on and kicked up! I’m not putting up with any of it. The system can kiss my ass BO can screw off and the dog can tear up someone else’s lawn!! God Bless and God Bless the United States of Amerika!
Porn, guns, and rock and roll……….what’s not to love? You are a man after my own heart there buzzfix!
@Stickman,
To the Paradise city, Where the grass is green and the Girls are pretty…
Keep your 5.56 guitar fine tuned brother!
People liking porn are people we can trust.
Everyone else is a liar or a politician.
Pebbles..politicians have a front row seat!! 🙂
And liar OR politician?? They are the same!!
Yeah, I really meant to say people saying whether they like it or not. If that makes sense.
Thats all the religion I need,
Amen brother,
Put a little Zeppelin on the playlist
Got room for one more on the list?
damn idiots have my name on the list four times they only need it once…..
snake
once they kidnap your family its fail or fight.
they might as well get a fema coffin ready for me…and enough for them
they would bring mine back without a shot fired they all eat to much
snake
If everything coming out in to the open now is only 50% true. SOON VERY SOON!
Prepare physically as in food, defense, etc. But also Prepare your Heart- Mind- and Soul.
Again the DAY is coming; SOON VERY SOON!
Keep the FAITH
Watchman
I live in Glen Burnie MD originally from DC. Im 34 African American former military I took an oath that can never be undone. Yesterday i worked on a military base and had a chance to participate in the evening stand down bugle call. It felt good and sad at the same time however i had a strong sense of pride in the country i serve. The real one not the one in all caps or the one with the gold fringed flag. I realized that when in the coarse of human events you may be placed in a position when the only thing you can say in the face of tyranny is FUCK YOU!!! And let actions fall where they may.
Forget the African/American; you are just an American like me. That’s what counts, glad to have you.
Silence is a virtue:€
Just because some don’t speak of it doesn’t mean they don’t believe in it!!! Some things are better left unsaid.. Actions speak louder than words.. Just as I have just done.. I replied to a post on issues that I see are happening right before me, and I believe are wrong on our governments part so I guess that means ADD ME to the list now, that I have spoken up.. Because I could not hold it in any longer…Just do it quietly.. In order to learn the inside stuff sometimes you have to be quiet like SNOWDEN, did,!!! That’s why we hire private eyes because we know we wouldn’t be able to remain calm in finding out the outcome of our investigation if we were to do it ourselves.. Sometimes it’s best to not OUT ourselves so we can find out what’s going on, on the inside… You’ve got to have TRUST WORTHY people there too..
personanongrata
how long you been living in the USA ?????
snake
Right on bud,
Stand tall!
@Persona:
It doesn’t matter that you are 34 years old–you can’t help that. You are still an American.
Brought back some nice memories
http://www.bands.army.mil/music/buglecalls/tothecolor.asp
you sir need more thumbs up…
The act of taking in much of former Nazi officials after WW2 (esp. intelligence officers and their nets to combat Soviet Union in postwar world) has come home to roost. Everything has a price…. and usually one dont take in people infected with lethal disease without serum developed. Disease beinf ideology in this case. Seems like they havent given up and did it again, with their new host (USA), this time much, much slower and way more irreversible. Its just my opinion, roots may be diferent, but still. If US giovernment was ready and able to execute massive surveilance in 80s, who can tell when exactly it become infected?
http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html
For those wanting a crash course on the incestous intrigue of nazis and america secret squirrel shenanigans.
I highly reccommend listening to all of Joseph Farrels interviews on the byte show.
I’ll bet the list is bigger than written. who is going to round up all these people? There will be a revolt when that starts.
It could be foreign troops on US soil. Or they could clean out the prisons of former military personnel. They’ll do what they’re told to do. Or they might make hostages of the military personnel’s families so that soldiers will do things they wouldn’t otherwise do.
Howdy Barn Cat,
China could sure provide alot of peace keepers through the U.N. The Port of Los Angeles would also be the ideal landing spot for them. It’s a pitty Cali just passed there new batch of 2nd Amendment hatred
If I see UN troops patrolling the streets it is fucking on. We’ll have to see who can make the biggest pile of blue helmets.
Simple send out a digital message with your details . To the 96 out of a hundred people with no preps. # hoarder at this loc, bounty paid dead or alive# # all goods can be confiscated for own use # you are now deputized and authorized to kill enemies of the state #
and voila the scumbag neighbots show up en masse , no other troops needed.
Simple send out a digital message with your details . To the 96 out of a hundred people with no preps. # hoarder at this loc, bounty paid dead or alive# # all goods can be confiscated for own use # you are now deputized and authorized to kill enemies of the state #
and voila the scumbag neighbots show up en masse , no other troops needed.
Exactly. That I believe is the true purpose of the FEMA camps. Military families and families of local law enforcement will be “protected” in the FEMA camps to guarantee obedience of the enforcers.
Speaking of FEMA Camps. A few years ago I was bored and decided to google earth the eastern portion of Alaska, along the Yukon border. I came upon a very strange blacked-out rectangle out in no-man’s land. Very strange indeed. By the length of it, seems like it could be some sort of landing strip etc. I have long heard of a hugh FEMA camp somewhere in Alaska but it was always alluded to as being near Fairbanks. Anyone else ever seen it?
I have seen a strange, really long, landing strip and a coulpe of buildings on the Beaufort sea… {looking}.. yep, just west of the Yukon boarder, see the red hump?,… zoom in on the east side… half way down from the tip… just north of the large dark crevase… zoom in further on the southern most “tooth”….
when i found it, i thought, this guy has $$$, bug out location.
There is also a dark rectangle and blurred out sections to the west… those are easy to see…
C
The one I saw was south of the Alaska Highway, down more towards where you drive to SE Alaska. I was looking for a good place to bug out and accidentally came across it.
Good, gasoline mixed with packing peanuts and a big catapault should take care of that problem,
Those boys are going have to learn a little more wood craft to get a few of us! Move to the country now! If you believe any of that news you had better get out of the easy “round up” areas which is called the CITY Go now leave while there is time Prep up DIG in.
G_L
yup and elephant traps work real well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
snake
Exactly…
I don’t see city boys trudging through the woods to get at me.
Especially when they run across that first … uh… varmint trap.
The USA has every characteristic of a failed state!
The US government’s current operating budget is dependent on foreign financing and money printing.
Politically, this country is unable to advance its interests through diplomacy, so it relies on terrorism and war.
Costs are out of control, and priorities are skewed in the interest of organized interest groups at the expense of the vast majority of us.
It costs $750,000 per year for each soldier we have in Afghanistan. The soldiers are paid a pittance, but all of the privatized services to the military are rolling in excess profits. One of the great frauds perpetuated on the American people was the privatization of services that the US military traditionally performed for itself. “Our” criminal, elected leaders could not resist an opportunity to create at taxpayers expense private wealth that could be recycled to politicians in the form of campaign contributions.
Industrial production has collapsed, and the economy is being hollowed out.
The enormous bank reserves created by the Federal Reserve are not finding their way into the economy. Instead, the banks are hoarding the reserves as insurance against the fraudulent derivatives that they purchased from the banksters on Wall Street.
An unmistakable sign of a failed state is a police force that sees the public as the enemy. Thanks to the Feds, our local police forces are now militarized and imbued with hostile attitudes toward the public.
In any failed state, the greatest threat to the population comes from the government and the police. That is certainly the situation today in Amerika.
Americans have no greater enemy than their own government. Not some mythic Islamic terrorists. The Washington District of Criminals is controlled by interest groups that enrich themselves at the expense of the rest of us.
Halliburton is a perfect example of our government pushing jobs off to their civilian buddies. Who was the biggest contractor during the gulf war–“Halliburton”. Who was head of Halliburton before becomeing VP–“Dick Cheney”. It doesn’t get much more blatant than that. I worked for 23 years as a defense contractor and that was just one example. This is typical throughout the defense industry now. Generals retire and immediately go to work for major contractors that they have been overseeing for years.
@JAS
The racket is called “FASCISM.”
Fascism is a system of government that cartelizes the private sector, centrally plans the economy, exalts the police State as the source of order, denies fundamental rights and liberties to individuals, and makes the executive State the master of society.
A Statists wet dream.
I just talked to a customer, who worked at IBM for 30 years, and just retired.
He was angry…could have stayed longer but couldn’t take it anymore…
He was a manager… and for the last FIVE YEARS, he has been laying off Americans, and hiring foreigners at half the cost. H1B visas…
IBM, has now made MY LIST.
All the multinationals are scum suckers, and deserve their fate, do not forget to add them to Our List.
OH, they were doing this at the explicit instruction of the government, and getting tax breaks for it…!
LMAO. The cluster fuck that we call our government today can’t even round up 12 million job stealin illeagal aliens let alone all the people they have pissed off. Let them try it. People such as are on this site are surely on the top of this list. We problay are at the top of it. If you have been around here for long we all know that there are some very capable people here who would cost the government so much time and effort that the governemnt would bog down in its efforts within days.
I don’t doubt they think they could pull some thing like this off but if uyou think of how effective any government action is it is laughable to think they could do some thing like this. This country would be long gone before some thing such as putting people like us into some type of deention center. I believe it is more likely that public executions would come first.
Why would the U.S. Government want to feed and house us? Death would be easier, cheaper and quicker. So know that will be the intent and act accrdingly when and if they come for you.
BigB
They don’t want to round them up.
There wont be any large revolt. there wont be any need to round up the lions share of folks. They will be easily detained. The promise of free food & shelter will entice the sheeple to willingly give up all of their Freedoms. The date SHTF happen,s will be when the goverment payments are no longer forthcomimg. It probably wont be a stoppage of goverment benifits for everyone all at the same time. Stoppagge for a few at a time. Likley just stop payments in a certian local or region. Round those up and move to the next batch. We will meet the exact fate as the native american indians . Even Geronomo who had the Know how and experienc and a inpenterable safe location. He also had an organized group of like minded individuals. His band where superior fighting warriors very good at killing. He had a better chance than any preppers today. The US Army couldnt out fight him. they couldnt catch him. but they destroyed his food sources and starved him into submission. Geronimo surrendered and spent the rest of his life in prision. He died in a small Jail cell. You would think Geronimo would have prefered to die in a hail of bulletts with a weapon in his hand?
I don’t place much stock in this story. There may be a contingency plan, but the govt plans for everything, up to and including alien invasion. I know a FEMA disaster guy and his stories about their inefficiency and inability to do even simple stuff sounds a lot more like the USG than the paranoid conspiracy theories I see here and elsewhere online. Look at post-Sandy for an example of their efficiency.
If I were in charge, I would make a list of folks who need to be detained based on the welfare rolls. THAT is where you will find the folks most likely to cause trouble when the free money machine runs down. Right now, I would offer as much free govt money as possible, ID the recipients, and take them into custody as soon as things go south, since anyone who can’t feed themselves now is clearly a threat when times get tough.
And the model for disaster relief pretty much ensures they’ll come right to you without compulsion if you set up relief centers, ID everyone who wants aid, and then concentrate them in camps for ease of supply and security. Problem solved and everyone is, more or less, happy.
Hi All, First time posting but have been lurking around and learning lots for some months (Thank you “Be Informed”, I live too close for comfort to the San Andreas fault and alway anxiously await your posts). Thx to all who patiently share their wisdom to all lovers of Freedom. Just wanted to make it official, I guess I am on some list now too. 🙂
Oh yeah, don’t count us out just yet in Sunny Southern California (things look grim on many fronts, but I believe God has his special plan for each and everyone of us, you just need to stop and really listen). It will be very tough in the very near future, but “May his will be done”. If you are Catholic (actually all Christians and people of “good will”), “You know what time it is”: Pray, Pray, and then Pray some more for PROTECTION and GUIDANCE in these crazy times. Some of us know where are roots are(“where we come from” and have not bought into the mainstream craziness and “popular culture”. Although I was born in the 70’s in S. California, I never really bought into the madness)and will strive to remain faithfull to the very end and will face down evil when it presents itself in whatever form. It may be tough, but do not lose your humanity and love, don’t become “them”. Sorry for the long rant, anyways ….Peace be with You, have a blessed day!
“THIS WE’LL DEFEND”, thanks for the good training Uncle Sam.
“Fight the good fight” (whether it be combat, physical, spiritual, legal, political) …but keep your cool, easy with the itchy trigger fingers. 🙂 Peace out for now
@ GoodDay_2EnterintoEnternity. There is no way in hell that the USGS or the government would EVER give you any advance warning of an impending earthquake, NO WAY. I imagine that if you live that close to the San Andreas you probably either live out by the Salton Sea/Palm Springs area, San Bernadino/Riverside area, or the Palmdale area. What they tell you about the next earthquake ONLY being a 7.7 is the biggest lie that you can be told. WHEN the southern San Andreas breaks ALONE it will register 7.9 at least. This runs from Mexico to Wrightwood. It may go further into Mexico all the way to the Gulf of California. The central part is likely to go also, which is from Wrightwood to about Parkfield and will likely be 8.1-8.4.
IF there is enough momentum from the central and southern San Andreas breaking, it could jump the creep zone north of Parkfield and continue to break into the northern section. If this happens you could easily have the largest strike slip recorded, breaking last year’s record west of Indonesia. Records continue to be broken like last month’s largest deep focus quake ever recorded. That little bit of trivia of course is not in the news.
It is really not about the size of the quake, it is the duration that is going to flatten everything. Approximately for every 2 miles of fault that breaks there is 1 second of shaking. There is about 325 miles of break from the Salton Sea to Parkfield. That would be about 163 seconds of shaking, almost 3 solid minutes. Take an egg timer or other device and see how long 3 minutes of very violent shaking does. On top of that it is highly likely that one or more of the thrust faults will break or one of the smaller sister faults will go, adding more horizontal destruction or vertical devastation. It happened in Mongolia decades ago to a similar type fault.
I would be real concerned about four different faults breaking after the San Andreas let loose; the San Jacinto, the Elsinore Whittier fault, and the Newport Inglewood, and the Eleysin Park fault that runs right under downtown LA. I have thought for many years that the Elsinore fault is the most likely to break and capable of alone being a high 7 of much more destruction that a Kobe, Japan type. The cities of Temecula and Lake Elsinore will look like an EF-5 tornado tore through there WHEN it breaks. These cities are right at ground zero for this fault.
No one is told the truth out in California that amount of catastrophic destruction that will happen. Northridge was just a 6.7 and in some spots the amount of force was equal to almost 200% the force of gravity. IF that fault was reversed and dipped to the opposite direction, Redondo Beach and Torrance would have looked like Kobe. The fault’s hypocenter reached the surface in the Santa Monica mountains. The hypocenter is different than the epicenter in every quake other than 90 and 0 degree sloping faults. It is where the energy hits the surface of the planet.
The real concern after a really large quake out there is fires. The natural gas lines will certainly break, along with power lines. You get a good strong Santa Ana going and the area could look like Dresdan, Germany that was fire bombed during WW2.
What I have found out is that Southern California and even other Californian earthquake follow a pattern with the precursor quakes. When the area around the Drake Passage down south of Argentina and Chile gets going, look out. Also earthquake activity towards the Bering Sea between the Asia and Pacific plates, usually above the Arctic Circle. Also a small section near the Macquarie Islands between the Antarctic and Pacific plate when it gets active quakes somethimes follow in Southern California. I am watching, as the southern plate boundaries are going nuts again, just like before the mega deep focus quake occurred.
WHEN the San Andreas breaks, IF you can somehow get out, do it. BO will set up a type of martial law that will make Haiti look like a better place after their quake. This government has not been faced with a multiple million person refuge situation. The San Andreas can cause the entire area to lose all the infrastructure. The real issue is going to be water. Absolute storage of water is necessary to survive. I would say 50 gallons per person bare minimum. Also sewage is going to be horrible and disease is going to be magnitudes worse than hurricane Katrina. Bleach and constant hand awareness is a must as germs, especially cholera is going to be rampant.
Each year the little cutesy Japanese women run around in a yearly earthquake drill in Toyko, unaware of the true magnitude of what is coming to the metropolitian area of 35 million people. Same is true in California, people just are not given the truth about just what will happen WHEN the southern part of the San Andreas that last broke around 313 years ago+ at around the time the Cascadia fault let loose. It is about 100 years overdue, and the central portion which broke in 1857 is about 20 years overdue. People in California that choose to live there must realize that it takes hard core planning and prepping to be ready for what will definitely hit someday. It has to break, as the many hundreds of times before it has, just no population there before. I will try to give everyone a warning when I see it possibly coming.
Jipes, Thank you much BeInformed! I have had
a funny feeling for awhile and trying to prepare
accordingly. Live in between LA and San Diego
counties, close to the land of “Disney” 🙂
I will definitely read your post again. I have
been looking around for water sources in
the area, and also thinking about the gas/fire
threat. Yup, does not look too good. I always get
that unnerving feeling whenever I am leaving the
freeway and directly under a bridge/underpass.
Makes it all the more challenging when we
have lil ones to think and plan for. Hey, would
you know what is a better situation in a good size
quake: A home with a raised foundation or
slab/concrete home?
Thx again man!
@ GoodDay_2EnterintoEternity. A slab type of foundation would probably ride out better a thrust type earthquake, as something on a raised foundation would focus the vertical shockwaves on the raised portions of the home and cause it to collapse. Northridge proved this all too well. A side to side horizontal quake a raised foundation would sway back and forth, like the large building are “suppose to do”, or like a tree in very strong winds. This is the problem though, you are likely to get BOTH, because horizontal quakes tend to trigger other faults. The mega strike slip quake last year trigger about 10 different faults, one all the way to Mexico.
The Orange county area again has to worry about the Whittier/Elsinore fault to the east, the Newport/ingelwood to the west, and the Chino Hills fault in between. On the 91 freeway, or is it the 605, I don’t remember as it has been so long, right before reaching Corona you can see the Chino Hills fault on the east side of the freeway. Anytime you see layers of rock that are not horizontal, and look at all twisted, that is a fault. It is unbelievable to see how much deception goes on out there, as I have seen faults actually painted over to try to hide them. This is insultive to anyone with any geological background.
The main problem with anyone living in a densely populated area when there is a disaster of the mega level, is the competetion of necessities to live. I say this to any area with thousands of people per sq. mile packed in like sardines. The further you have to go to get to nature the less chance of survival you have unless you have a magnitudes of supplies. Every place south of Long Beach, not on the upslope of a mountain is borderline arid, less than 10 inches of rainfall a year. Long Beach gets 12 inches a year.
Like Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas, and others, water will be a huge issue for life. During the summer months, water will be so scarce that if the pumping stations are not working for water, people will die in the tens of thousands 2-4 days after a true disaster from thirst alone. Storage of water is beyond essential, it is your life. These areas are basically wet winter, completely dry summer, and no water is coming from the sky.
The illusion that the county’s utilities being just fine after a mega earthquake are beyond naive. Same as the New Madrid fault system, underground utilites are gone after this and it would take YEARS to repair, months if BO “drafted” a bunch of people to work on this. Still it is life without any of the lifelines that people have become accustomed to.
This is why IF you are staying in the area I suggest very highly that you invest much in what you need to survive. Get an excellent water filter, and store as much water as possible. Store a lot of food and everyday necessities. Get some good defense, I know california is the most suffocating firearms place there is. A good home defense shotgun I think is still allowed out there. Get only buckshot and slugs for this. I am afraid to ask what type of rifle or handgun is allowed. I nice Taurus Judge revolver I hope would still be allowed. Again, you are certainly being given skewed information about quakes, the amount of destruction is far worse than what they will tell you. Prepping like no tomorrow is so important for the quakes that are way overdue and for the way the world is collapsing.
Thank you kindly! Yep, 91 freeway in the
area you mentioned. A shotty is definitely the
way to go for up close home defense, we can
still get these pretty easily 🙂 and ammo although
rather expensive, can still be easily acquired
for a shotty. Hand gun, will be very important also
depending on type and severity of collapse……
as it will be the most easily accessible when
traveling, and in close quarters, etc. (special consideration on ammo,
since we have close neighbors, and kids rooms). Can’t
wait to play with the new toys on the range. But, in
all honesty, hope I never have to use them. When I see
my kids and wife sleeping peacefully, unaware of all
the crazy dangers in the world, I know I will not
hesitate to use deadly force if necessary to protect their
lives. Yez, have to work more on the WATER situation.
Good to have doggies too! Very protective of kids
and good early warning system (The combination
of one Australian Shepherd and one Westie mix
seems to be working pretty good, good balance
between being kid friendly and excellent
watchdogs). Peace out, thx
Your concern is understood, GoodDay..I am right on the border of the New Madrid line in Ky. if it goes.
So it’s a crap shoot. Like that one daddy?? 🙂
Dad got in lots of trouble before I was born with that game.;-)
Hello JayJay,
Yep, never quite get used to the earth moving violently under your feet (no matter how many times you have been through it!). Although for a very recent “minor” earthquake I did get sort of an early warning (if I remember correctly, a minute or two): My dogs were barking in a weird way while I was eating breakfast one morning. Short time after, I thought a felt a shake but was not totally convinced. Later in the day I confirmed on the US geological site that we indeed had a tiny quake in the area at that time.
Peace out
“House Speaker John Boehner: NSA Leaker a ‘Traitor'”
No Boehner, your a traitor, and this entire admin are traitors.
Boehner
one of the most corrupt politicians ever to inhabit
the cesspool that is Washington DC
has a lot of nerve
as does Diane Feinstein
even the mere mention of her name
makes me want to throw up
NSA leak is treason, says Feinstein
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/304635-nsa-leak-is-treason-says-sen-feinstein
the only treason
is that which occurs in the halls of Congress on a daily basis
Did you see a couple weeks ago when Feinsteins husband was awarded a private mail contract after congress voted to close certain post offices? This contract made them even more millions. If GOD would permit me to have a snipe list she would be near the top.
Orange man speaking with forked tongue.
Finally an upbeat article. Thanks Mac. Now we know there are at least 8 million of us still left.
We need to organize.
Rattlerslodge.org for organizing
Welcome GoodDay! We still have many good friends in SCal and you will not be alone out there others are “awake”it will be tough because you will be out numbered and have local gov to fight too. But we admire your grit and determination and appreciate your service to this country. Oh, and welcome to the list too!;-)
Dying is easy, its living that’s hard. Take your list and shove it sideways.
Good Day, welcome aboard, and keep coming back for more. NinaO, respect and good morning, I’m with you all the way. I’m on lists going back to the Clinton era and don’t care. some of us have lists of our own that t better be more concerned about. Even with the right kind of help, they can’t round up millions of illegal aliens in this country. If they come to my place for any reason, expect resistance. Make sure your insurance is paid up, kiss your wife and kids goodbye, and bring body bags for yourselves. I never submit to anyone who has evil intentions toward me. I have no obligations to such people whatsoever. Nobody is allowed to hurt me, period! NOMI CATIMF braveheart
Speaking of body bags… a friend of mine runs a ambulance service in AK. He once told me that some hunters up there used them on their hunting trips. Put their sleeping bags in them and zip up. You can withstand extreme weather. Of course, he added that there are different quality bags. At that time, he said that the good ones were in the $100.00 range. The ambulance service found out that the cheaper ones wouldn’t hold together when they were removing bodies in very cold.
Braveheart , …Please for just love of cats and dogs STFU ! Just Today ! THANX
Big Brother is no longer a conspiracy theory,
… it’s a Conspiracy Fact!
N.O. ;0p
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” — The Declaration of Independence
I read the first line “Are you on the list? ”
… my guess is yes.
My guess is most of us on here are on “the list”… I know I am.
I`m going to be pissed if I`m not,,,,,,,,,,,,
snake
Just end every phone conversation, every email, every post on sites like this one..
Hey, NSA, can ya hear me now?? 🙂
For all ex-military and active duty now; be it regular or reserve. If you had or have a clearance higher than Confidential; you where put on a list when you were given that clearance. Why, the FBI when to your home town and asked question about you. For a Confidential it was just an office back ground check. (NICS CHECK)
Keep the FAITH
Watchman
Just sent to Rand Paul on the Class Action Suit against the NSA
Mr Paul
I would like to start out by saying I support you , and your Fathers positions in the current and past problems with this administration.
Problem is they are not running this show as a Republic, and that is the first mistake.
On subject of your Class Action Law Suit against the NSA
I have a problem with this and I’ll tell you why.. when anyone sues a government entity, we are in reality suing our selves, the tax payers.
We as the owners of this government need to start suits on the individuals if we want to get them to see the error of their ways.. its really different when its their money and their butt in trouble with the laws of this land.
By suing the NSA , the individuals who call the shots are protected by the tax payers bill, and that needs to come to an end in this country if we are to ever gain a foot hold within the problems of this nation.
Peoples jobs need to be on the chopping block, representatives need to not only feel the heat, but live the fear that their job can be gone if they don’t do the peoples work, and not hide behind a bureaucracy that covers for them and pays their legal matters with money from the people
We the People have been robbed enough.
I feel if you really want support from the real people who make it happen in this country, than you need to go at the individuals personally, or you and I will just be spinning our wheels and punishing those of us pay taxes for a better life and better country.
These suit policies need to implemented across the board, law enforcement, politicians, representatives..etc.. everyone.
If we are truly a land of laws, the Rule of Law..than no one should be allowed to have their legal fees for breaking that rule paid for by the Citizens of this country..
they in turn learn nothing from it, feel no pain for the wrong doing they very well know that they are perpetrating on the backs of the working man.
please understand I know what your trying to do, but if you are serious about making a change, put some teeth in it or its not worth your time or my tax dollars..its time for them to pay, jail, prison, loss of employment , civil suits, and banning from ever sitting in a government position , is all these thugs know or fear.
God Bless our Republic
its not just this administration you Idiot, Bush did the same things and you said nothing, You are partially to blame for this as are all of us
good try but your wrong, don’t act like you know me or what I think or do.
I haven’t agreed with the government and what they have been doing my entire dam life, and I was no ones yes man EVER!
and since you called me an Idiot , im calling you an asshole
and idiot can be educated out of being an idiot, but an asshole cant do anything but pass shit
hey VRF
he also has a couple of nuts always hanging around
snake
hahaha tis true
We’re can I order my Main Core Member t-shirt?
I’m probably on there representing the ladies… 😉
Seeing the apathy that still reigns after Edward Snowden’s confessions of what the NSA is up to (and we all know his confession is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg…he only knew what HE knew, after all) makes me realize that the majority of Americans are just too darn lazy to care. Look at what’s happened in less than a year: we’re talking Benghazi, the IRS scandal, Both Barack and Hillary being caught in lie after lie, now Prism and the NSA….and people just sit there and keep watching “American Idol.” Idolatry, indeed. The 8 million on this list don’t represent the downfall of our nation…they represent it’s last hope to remain a free, true-to-the-Constitution country.
I think the people are pissed and want something done,
what I think is going on, is the government and the media are playing it down to make it look as if we don’t care..
We the People want this crap stopped, we the people that matter and know whats going on that is
This is funny! … sorry i don’t know how to make a link.
http://lookup.maincore.us/
click “enter” at the bottom of yellow box…
C
ooo, its a link! walla!
C
walla…..??
Twice as happy would be Walla Walla!
No… Walla Walla would be a town in Washington state.
And if you didn’t capitalize it, walla walla would be an onion.
So… is he referring to half an onion or half a town…??
Maybe he is as happy as an onion in Walla Walla can be….
Congratulations, CLess..you have accomplished cut and paste.
I was on the computer for 7 years before someone showed me. 🙁
At 62 yrs… techy I’m not.. 😉
Well, a great year to be born..Me too!!
What happens if you press enter? I’m noid already for just clicking this link
Just being on this site pretty much guarantees a top billing on this list of “enemies of the state”, Hitler and company would be proud of the dirty dogs that are dragging our country down, all with the complicit approval of the sheeple. Someone once said that “the masses are asses”, it would appear that this true!
Hershey Hitler don’t even care about the masses, let alone if some are asses.
the truth will come out when all the deceitful practices perpetrated by this government end up being the end of their gravy train. Its well on its way already.
Theres enough of us to care, and incarcerate those who think they are above it all..
the media is just too busy doing damage control at the moment , wait till it burns out
Perhaps ‘modest invasion of privacy’ should be met with a ‘modest regime change’
The government has had contingency plans for civil unrest for a long time. The plans are most likely crafted in the format of contingency plans for North Korea, Iran, Russia, China, Mexico, Canada, you name a spot on this planet and there will be a contingency plan for war. They are constantly being made current and updated when there’s political, economic, military and technological change. In the 80’s when then speaker of the house Jim Wright was being censured, he mentioned during his hearings “If the American people knew of our contingency plans for a revolt they would have our heads”. He said this as a threat to spill the beans if the censure committee didn’t go easy on him.
Do I like the idea of being seen by my government as a potential enemy of my home land, no. I do understand that it takes a weird type of sick mindset to live in a world of crap that’s a blend of government, security, secrets, military, foreign relations and politicians.
I’m not justifying what they are doing, what I trying to do is understand, put it in perspective and be able to sort out what’s a far fetched contingency plan put together by a bunch of government paid, paranoid, over zealous nerds and what’s a real threat to me. Of the hundreds of doom theories posted on this site there are most likely thousands more that have been studied and a contingency plan is on a shelf in a government agency waiting to be called up. Some get leaked out from time to time and it makes for a good conspiracy theory.
With the take over by the left, the build up of the police state, the threat of economic collapse, the political agendas and divides and the war on terror, I wonder which war plans are off the shelf.
Can Silence Ever Be Treated As An Acceptance?
“If the party remaining silent acts on the agreement, then the silence will be treated as acceptance.
In the case of modifying certain rights previously granted, if the owner of the rights does not acknowledge or infer their previous rights, then the party has accepted the contract for the revised rights.”
howdy, NinaO. Big Brother has been a fact all over the world since the Roman Empire. NOMI CATIMF braveheart
There are people saying that if you don’t do anything “wrong”, you don’t have anything to worry about. Remember the Homeland Security saying that veterans, Christians and gun owners are to be considered terrorists? Remember Obama saying he wanted his own civilian armed force as powerful as the regular Army? Remember about two weeks before the revelation on spying that Obama was giving a graduation speech where he said, “People are going to say the government is becoming tyrannical”? He knew about the leak before it was public. You only have to want small government to be considered “doing something wrong”. Sales of Orwells “1984” have sky rocketed in recent weeks.
To everyone: Has everyone noticed in the last couple of articles that Eisen is starting up his same crap again? I’ve already posted 2 warnings to him about it. If he doesn’t stop, I’ll treat him like a troll. braveheart
STOP WHINING ABOUT THE TROLLS. I SAY WHAT I WANT AND YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT.
No, …I have not, But you are still runnin you fuckin CAKE HOLE as always !
If you have an aversion to trolls, why do you kiss nina0’s butt so much?
This is great news to know there is a list of malcontents that has the unconstitutional group in DC that call themselves the congress looking over their shoulder. We have got them nervous, and scared and nervous people make big mistakes. Their mistakes are just now coming out, and hopefully this will give more people the courage to release more infomation on the thieves called the federal government.
IF THERE IS SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO HAS THE NAMES OF THOSE ON THE (LIST) PLEASE RELEASE IT. IF YOU CAN JUST RELEASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE LIST YOU WOULD GIVE THE REST OF US GREAT HOPE.
EVERYONE RECRUIT FOR ADDITIONS TO THE LIST. THERE IS STRENGTH AND COMFORT IN NUMBERS. WE MAY OUTNUMBER THEM ALREADY. GO PREPPERS GO!
Howdy, Maudy Fricket. I used to hear that same thing from govt. employees back in the 60s when I was growing up. NOTHING government does has any legitimate basis to it, NONE WHATSOEVER! braveheart
Putin has offered Snowden asylum
if he asks for it
I would be proud to be apart of the “Main Core”.
In fact I think I will have a badge made.
While there may well be a list of 8 million undesirables, that’s approximately 8x greater than the number of sworn law enforcement officers.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States#Number_of_police
I suppose if 100% of our armed forces were put to the task, it might be possible incarcerate most of us, but generally the math isn’t feasible.
8,000,000 on the list in 2008. 305,000,000 total population in 2008. That means 1 out of 38 people, close to 3%.
Thats an interesting number.
III
wasnt that about what the revolutionary force was in the colonial days?
These leaks are also distractions,
interesting timing, I think the gov wants a distraction from the IRS thing, They need your money to continue.
To the gov asshole reading this,
YOU are the traitor who needs to be locked up, not me or my brothers and sisters.
the day of reckoning will come. Keep encroaching, we have the strength of numbers and the power of conviction.
III% is the force you were thinking of, yes 3%ers
230-something years ago, our forefathers realized that their petitions were being ignored, and having just recently been fired upon by the King’s men, decided that it was time to start killing those who had a hand in depriving them of their liberties. And they issued a declaration to that effect:
Declaration of the Causes and Necessity of Taking Up Arms: Resolutions of the Second Continental Congress, July 6, 1775
Interestingly the principals that were taught in school 50 years ago may well land someone in prison or worse in the near future. The smart play would be to let the passing of time be to your advantage and have that generation expire from old age before altering society so significantly or otherwise they risk a higher probability of a confrontation that could be avoided. Lets face it they been at it for a long long time; why the acceleration?
“If you have ever been publicly critical of the government, there is a very good chance that you are on that list.”
This number is probably more like 60 or 70 million Americans. How can they deal with this number when rounding people up?
What do you think all those DHS hollow point ammo purchases are for?
Sterling, they don’t have to deal with ALL those people, just a few of them.
For instance: You believe yourself to be on the “list”. I’m sure you have friends who are much more low-profile and therefore probably not on the list. Suppose a SWAT team pays you a visit at Oh-dark-thirty and your house – with all the inhabitants – is “accidentally” burned to the ground.
What effect do you think this will have on your “low-profile” friends? Especially after the local TV talking head dutifully reads the approved version of the event that the SWAT team hands them.
Let’s face it folks, we’re not just on a list, we’re already dead. We just haven’t had the good sense to fall down yet.
Dead Man, Walking.
Yea, I’ve probably been on it since 1969. I read that LBJ was having people walk up and down the streets taking down car license plate numbers around the SF park where there was, I believe a demonstration re nuclear power plants. Yes, I was there and my car was parked near the park.
I will wager 1/2 of everything that nothing will happen. Nothing will happen to the IRS, Benghazi or any other news leak. The reason is that the apathy tree has gown large and shaded the populace with its leaves. This tree will not be water with the blood of tyrants. It will be pack firmly in place with the boot heels of thugs. Under this shade the ignorant and morally bankrupt will continue to feed the beast. Some will joint the armed forces, others will conform and all will pay. The apathy tree will grow larger. Eminence in fact. To step into the sun is to become that list.
The beast has become so large that the populace cannot elect enough leadership to turn back to Liberty and Freedom. It is as simple as that. As of now there is not a single person that could make it through the teeth of the beast to turn the tide. And he would need an army.
Violence is the second option. If there is a rebellion it will be crushed with a furver unseen be man. Billions of rounds, armored cars, many volunteer thug countrymen to do the bidding and, that huge list. A list of friends and family. The partisan does not stand a chance. God bless his soul. but if by some 3% chance he did overcome the beast it is historically likely he would be more of a tyrant the the last.
Prepare for humanities darkest times or step into the light and pay the price.
Bring it on..
GET YOUR SPRAY CANS READY………
WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The gov is runnin scared.thats why they’re tryin to scare us with their little toys,half of which they don’t even have.they,re doin the “puffer fish” cause they know we know about the many treasons,they’re “all in” and they’re not ready with the man power to do anything,so out comes the info about these miraculous abilities. “we know who all of you are and we can get you” If it was 8 million people in the eighties that is still more than they could handle today,so what about the probably third of the population that knows now?
Speaking of toys….look what the children are doing. Turning in their guns!!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/10/Elementary-School-Urges-Students-To-Turn-In-Toy-Guns
Keep preppin’
I’m sure a lot on the list are retired military. They have an Oath and training.
IMHO, you should have some defenses for a no-knock entry. Something that should never have been legalized.
With a little luck. If they are massing for an area take down. Word will leak.
The Survival Mom website has an article about “When the Balloon goes up.” I’m sure that there will be signs that a people grab is near.
Sierra, I took notes on that topic:
Signs the balloon went up(SHTF)—
1. Empty shelves in grocery & hardware stores
2. Unexpected bank holidays/Run on ATM’s
3. Large groups of looters; widespread violent rioting
4. Loss of life due to the police and emergency services being overloaded
5. More violence in your area, group behavior changes, dead streets, new leaders, and nobody trusting others.
6. Failure of power grid with no restoration within 72 hours.
7. A stock market collapse of 30% in less than 10 days.
8.An influenza pandemic with a high lethality rate, and an outbreak anywhere in the U.S.
9. One or more targets hit in the Continental United States by a major nation state by nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons.
10. Warning from the Government or other authority
11. GMO crop failure–famine from a bug or man-made attack.
12. Martial law declared anywhere in the U.S.
Pretty concise, huh??
I like it Jay Jay. Pretty good. I am going to print and pass that along.
BigB
I CANT WAIT TO TRY THE MRE’S THAT I CONFISCATE OFF DEAD FOREIGN OBAMA ADGENDA KEEPERS. I CAN SMELL THE PELMENI(RUSSIAN) AND THE CHICHEN CHOW MEIN (CHINESE)RIGHT NOW….WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT TAKEOVER COULD TASTE SO MUCH BETTER THAN TAKEOUT.
Do you know why and how they get away with doing things like this?
It’s because they know that people will just type away on their keyboards, and that alternative media outlets will print articles about it, and that people will complain and point. They also realize that people will not do anything about it, except do as mentioned above.
There are no million+ people marching on Washington DC, or any State Capitol, and even any City Hall. You might find 50-75 people doing that, but who cares.
Alexander Haig said it best:
Let them march, protest, carry signs, call and complain to their Congress, write letters, all they want. All long as they continue to pay their taxes WE DO NOT CARE!
Never in all of recorded history has any dictator, oligarch, monarchy or power structure been brought down by peaceful protest, letter writing, or computer keyboard complaining or pointing out the problem.
They have only been removed or abolished by one means and one means only. And it seems as a group of liberty minded people, we do not possess that quality any longer.
bill Clinton has recently gotten, or is about to get, five hundred thousand dollars for giving a speech in Israel. A SPEECH! georgie-boy bush received fifty million in “DONATIONS” to build his library in texas. do you see the club that these “PUBLIC SERVANTS” are a part of? seems like “public service” is really double-speak for something far more sinister — at the public’s expense! the blatant disregard for the people of this country is truly outrageous! once again, they continue to do this looking you right in the face with a great big smile on their face.
we’re all standing pat,cause we don’t live this stupidly,but when the shot comes cross the bow all hell will break loose!
I know I am paranoid, but within 3 hours of my last posting about release a list I had a big multiman chopper fly over. Not seen one of those here ever. I am packing a few things and leaving the house. Don’t want wife involved. If you don’t hear from me again, just know I will give all I have to give. I have no doubt that if something happens it will be an accident or my fault. Hope all of you have a nice day.
Cowdoc
About five years ago our hunt camp was buzzed by five Helos in the night. Could feel the rotor wash as they were at tree top level as we stood around the campfire. Heard them coming in. As they passed over there was no lights and it was all over in less than a 30 seconds. We also had a Black Hawk land on the property and deploy troops. They checked the aircraft for something and then took off again. We are close to a Army Training Base. Can hear fifties and artillery fire at times.
This is the fast track to the NWO. They are salivating -they are chomping at the bit to find a reason to stamp out the little freedom we have left. This has been going on since the 80’s. Get ready for the culling. They can’t wait to use their beloved drones. They aren’t worse than the Nazi’s – they are the Nazi’s.
Get on your knees and pray people. We don’t have much time. I can’t prep because my husband is in denial. Just do the best you can – one day at a time. God bless you all.
“champing”, not “chomping”
Yeah, we know.
But it’s a matter of personal choice. I like my bits chomped… and my steaks chicken-fried!
How about straining at the leash
Or bustin’ a gut?
Or blowing a gasket
Or coming unhinged
Or losing your cool
Being fed up?
I’ve had it!
A couple articles ago there was a great recipe for unicorn burgers. I’m gonna put some on the grill and relax. Anybody remember that recipe for dandelion wine?
OutWest should have both. My Dad could give you the one for the pretty yellow flowers. Can’t believe what is happening up town. No, I can believe it. It seems like everything is from A to Hole with nothing in the middle. Stay safe….
wrong again iron head _ chomping is correct.
Okay–this is the year 2013…you can’t prep?
Excuse me…my precious darling of 38 years learned the first month—do NOT evah tell me I can’t do something.
:-)We southern girls are brought up to train them fast, hard, and sometimes often–if they are slow!! 🙂
When the Democrats are in power, people talk bad about the government. Then when the Republicans are in power, people again scorn the Government. So we are all on the list. To what degree the government determines how high a threat will be what color code you get. If our government is marking us for death, at some point they will not be able to trust no one. They may purge many of us in the beginning but even those who would enable them to do soon will find that they are also included to be killed. Would we be able to bear our families being taken in the night even if our political beliefs divide us? Can we bridge the fear factor of our neighbor being detained and get involved. Would you hope that someone would help your relatives in time of need? Can we standby and have our children and grand children taken to reeducation camps. How would a son or daughter in the military react to seeing his or her parents in a death camp or following an order to detain them and load them on a truck.
Too many questions and no solid answers.
The “list” needs to be “disappeared”! (along with the entire government)!
The list IS “disappeared”. I can’t find it
Since I’ve made regular political donations to Conservative candidates and have loudly voiced my anti-Obama opinions on Facebook, then I guess I’m on the list too!
Katherine Logan- Welcome! There’s 6 million more folding chairs in the corner. Grab one and join us!
NSA,
Please send me a copy of your list. I would really like to know who my friends are. Oh, and thank you for creating the large data base for the hacker group Anonymous.
I read then re-read the 4th Amendment. Puzzled, I did a little more research and could not find the Amendment repealing the 4th Amendment.
DC’s actions don’t pass the Constitutional sniff test. Smells like Treason on multiple counts.
All of you are useless eaters/breeders and are on the list. Especially Okie.
How does that make you feel? I want my mommie.
Oh, Teddy boy. The pipes, the pipes are calling. ;0)
Ted- they misspelled my name the first 7 times. Think they got it right now, though.
By the way, how’ve you been? You’re coming to the get together this weekend, right? Bring plenty of schnapps. And extra paper towels (we need them as wadding in the pumpkin cannon) We’re going for a new world record!
Was in your neck of would’s last weekend. Wood like that next month. Steer is getting fat on 12%, pig in freezer, 3 freezers full, sweet corn is shoulder high, outdoor wood stove is going in & yard is mowed “again”. Winter wheat turned last weekend, Buff Orpingtons/New Hampshires are enjoying the little hoppers.
I’m sorry but i do not believe theses guys could find their ass’s with both hands- IF thing brake down most Federal workers are going to lay low.State and local Governments in well run( RED States ) will keep order .
BIG BLUE states and cities will be hell holes and burn, Now folks in those areas would be well advised to leave and/or prepare to hunker down. But as for camps and round ups , I don’t think Millions It’s easier to kill a million these days then to control a million….I heard that somewhere
Right agent provocateur–these ARE the guys begging for bottled water to give to the Sandy Hurricane victims??
Preparation is NOT in their vocabulary.
We got it all ass backward.
We should arrest and imprison those that started this all. The one million they are trying to arrest tried to stop all of this in the first place!!!
This why I don’t like liberals. They get things all ass-backward. No wonder there symbol is a donkey.
Another troll throwing partisan bait to distract us from the real problem. Don’t fall for it….
Ok, I won’t fall for what you said.
The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing. We need to turn the cameras on the police, and on the government, not the other way around…
we know enough
Hi all, just from my everyday drive to work
and normal travel in Southern California:
I live in a “working class” burb of Los Angeles
but if you know the area, the cities (not as
big and congested as L.A.) but still run into
each other to form pretty big population areas,
just a couple of observations (no stats, just
“boots on the ground type info”):: Homeless
population seems to be growing affecting
all the ethnic and age groups
(I am seeing more young and very old people). I notice
more people sleeping in cars, RVs, and at parks (the
area has large numbers of parks), I am noticing
more people walking around and on bicycles
scoping our humble neighborhood. Economy
getting better? Yeah right. Not for the “lower
middle class” soon to be pushed into the Poorhouse.
I live pretty close to a National
Guard armory, the lines were definitely
longer this past winter when they were
sheltering/feeding people (and I noticed
some children with their parents).
“Do The Right Thing”. (Never forgot
and never will forget all of the good ole
Army phrases). Stay motivated and eyes
wide open peeps.
Same thing here in Northern California (Sacramento). I travel all over Northern California and it is the same every where. The only safe havens are the small towns in the country. I guess the pickings are to slim. But then again I have also noticed that the same type are also in the country only they are recieving some type of aid and can be found hanhing out in front of the bars.
But there may be some light as I see in all of the small town areas signs for Tea Party meetings on a regular basis. At least some people are organizing.
BigB
Maybe we should use the law to stop the breakers of the law.
Proclamation and Orders of The American People
We, the People of the federated States of America, acting under our original jurisdictions in our capacities as living Men and Women At Law in paramount sovereign authority over our Land andCountry, do hereby resolve and proclaim our Command to Our Armed Forces, in each and every manifestation, civilly and constitutionally derived, comprising but not limited to the Army, Navy, MarineCorps, Air Force, Coast Guard, State Guard and Militia units, Sheriffs, Constables of their respectivecounties and municipal Police of our communities, each and together to act forthwith upon the concluding Orders
we convey herein…to wit
On Authority formally recognized by the right honorable John Jay, Chief Justice of the Supreme Courtof The United States of America, for the case of Chisholm v. Georgia, wherein he stated that “at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country…”.
Whereas, a department has been formed under the Administrative division of the United States’ entity of governance, called the Department of Homeland Security, having no authorized powers enumerated in the constitution for said Unites States, beyond those narrow activities jurisdictionally internal to said entity, and
Whereas, such Department has amassed an armory of weapons; ammunition for said weapons,internationally declared as unlawful; and sundry implements of war, in implicitly and explicitly stated anticipation of their use against the People of America, and
Whereas, an agency exists under the Department of Defense called the National Security Agency which has been disclosed to carry on surveillance over the People of America for purposes of despotic political control, in violation of Lawful Due Process and enumerated powers of Congress under constitutionalauthorization, by these presents it is thus so
Ordered, that said military forces shall, within twenty-four hours of receipt hereof, delivered at the offices of the Provost Marshals General of The United States, fully and completely commandeer said weaponry, ammunition and all equipment, vehicles and accoutrements of a military nature from said Department of Homeland Security, preventing all acts of said Department toward such re-armament.and
http://www.scribd.com/doc/146709421/Proclamation-and-Orders
I’ve been thinking and want Yals opinion about where my place is on the list. Freedom loving, gun loving, bible toting, combat veteran, 3 gun shooter, CCW carrier, NRA life member, GOA life member, prepper, long distance shooting competitor, anti big gov, infowars and the blaze and drudge report reader, cash paying, no face book, and no credit card debt.
You are safe.
Look how long it took them to find the DC sniper, how do they think they can handle 30million snipers? I do not think they thought this through very well if they are planning a move against the American people!
Thats why universal gun registration is necessary for gun confiscation. An unarmed society is an enslaved society.
Buy a gun. Buy your ammo.
Turk, I would like to agree with you, but just how many do you think have the balls to stand up and fight when the time comes? I have a friend whose brother is a ham radio operator. He volunteered in N’Awlins after Katrina. He heard many things. One of which is a redundant comms network being built, which the public will not have access to, and a potential shutdown of all public communications in the event of SHTF. So just how will folks know when the time is at hand? If you don’t know a HAM operator, you may not know jack. And again, how many will have the balls? I pray for my own courage, and everyone else’s.
I Pray for this country’s return to God. Not seeing it.
But that DC sniper sure did make the (liberal) media lots of money because as they say, “bad news is good news”. It was almost as if they told the “police” to take their time
I’m pretty sure I’ve been on the list since 1993. Amazing they could think some joe-ordinary nobody like me could be such a threat to Washington.
It’s not joe ordinary his self that is a threat, it is ideas that are a threat, and ideas begin with one person who can still think for themselves
what do you think all those 72 state intelligence fusion centers were designed and built for in each and every state of the Union . . looking for terrorists . . NOT . . they’ve been busy as bees gaining access to state databases to develop their politicfal dissendent lists . . their first published intel report that outlined a terrorist profile which they train all police depts to be aware of:
Vets
those who store more than 7 days of food
Pro 2nd ammendment groups
If you own precious metals
tea party
3rd party groups
etc . .
google the IG report two years ago on state intelligence fusion centers . . weclome to Amerika Comrades .
Here is my take on how they will gain ultimate compliance. It obviously borrows from mark of the beast prophesies.
First, the financial collapse. All assets frozen and taken over by feds. You’ll get an allowance per month, like in Argentina. But, in order to get your allowance (of your own money, or of your monthly SS or welfare check), you’ll have to do what they want. Maybe it’s getting microchipped. Maybe it’s turning your registered guns in. Whatever it is they want, if you want access to your assets, or even access to the banking system at all, or access to the government assistance, you’ll have to do it. If you have a mortgage or a property tax bill you’ll have to play along if you want to keep your property because, if you don’t, you won’t have a way of paying your obligations.
Another possibility is that they will just use access to food as the means to get us to comply early on. In the first few days and weeks of financial collapse and panic, almost everyone will need government assistance. Assuming food is still available at the stores, it will be too expensive to purchase. So, the feds will issue vouchers for food but you have to get your biometric marker or chip to qualify. Just as important, it’s the only way you will qualify for health care and your prescription medicine voucher. After that, the program just expands. We’ll have to do whatever they want in order to maintain access to the electronic financial system.
So, they won’t even HAVE to come after everyone’s guns. They’ll have most people by the balls already.
There might be low-security FEMA camps for people that the government sees as useless. These might be for the food stamp collectors that they can’t get labor out of. It’s possible there will be gitmo-style FEMA camps for people on the “main core” list. But there won’t have to be many because most people will play along just so they can eat.
I know this scenario lacks some detail. But it explains why they are being so bold now even though it looks like the police forces would be overwhelmed. They won’t be overwhelmed. The control is financial and electronic. People will be fighting and lining up around the block to get their microchip at the Walmart. The riot police squads and Boston police state drills are just for the initial looting in inner cities and for rounding up unregistered guns from drug dealer gangs. Drones are multipurpose and can be used to break up riots or to kill non-participators/resistors on their homesteads. The NSA spying is for people that take their microchip and look like they are complying but are secretly resisting or planning. It will be hard for them to do because they won’t be able to keep electronic contact with any fellow resisters without being found out. Street cameras with facial recognition will be able to track movement so someone would have a hard time keeping meeting places/contacts secret.
Almost everyone will willingly comply, even most preppers. That’s because the food isn’t going to stop. The job at your company isn’t going to stop. It’s that you just have to do this one little thing to get food tomorrow. That’s what they are counting on. It’s the only thing that makes sense given that there are so many of us and so few police. It won’t be like Red Dawn. Just you and me, deciding if it’s just easier to go down to the FEMA center for our microchip and save revolting for another day.
I don’t think any of this will happen until Obamacare is set in motion, since there will have to be a cohesive system through which to monitor use of prescription med vouchers. And, of course, universal access to medical care is a tasty carrot. People won’t take their microchip to get food unless they are also guaranteed their life-saving meds.
Hunger Games?
Can I be on the list too?
MOLAN LABE!!!
These agencies are in complete and treasonous mode now, and they are the real enemies of the nation and have been for quite some time. all it took was some scumbag lunatic lefty Islamic commie like the African Obama megalomaniac to throw it over the edge and cause a coup d’etat with the help of their Democratic Nazi party machine this began with the scumbag garbage bag Bush Sr., then Maggot Bill Clinton and then the other demon himself G.Bush. the originator and of the fake and phony unconstitutional law, the Patriot Act which the idiots in the senate and congress have followed blindly, all in part to their lust for power and greed. they are all enemies of the nation except for a few. hey we already have a list of names of 75 people from the senate and congress who signed their names to the Communist/socialist party, dont believe look it up for yourselves on line all the names of the traitors came out of the closet three to fours ago, their like sodomites and roaches spreading their hatred of white people. and white liberal scumbag self hating whites spreading their hatred of all Gods people.
Soap box, Ballot box, Jury box, ammo box. I think we are past jury box. I am tired of waiting. What is the break point? We can not organize because there are 150 million pro govt. people that get free phones and watch the silly boob tube or some other crap that prevents them from seeing what is happening and rejoice at the fact that the govt. “is here to help you.” Yes it will be horrific and very bloody but where do we draw the line in the BEDROCK of what we as Americans believe? I’m as ready as I will ever be. Bring it on.
Actually were still at soap box.
IMPEACH OBAMA!!!!! Treasonous Traitor is an Anti – American Communist Marxist Muslim Lovin’ Fag. Whooooo – Hooooo. Im NOW on the friggin list; and PROUD of it!!!!
If you can still critically think for yourself & question authority, you are definitely on the list! Ironic, considering The Powers That Be, are all on our list too! Live free or die trying! Power & Glory to the Lord Almighty!
Eisen, all I’m saying to you, for the last time, stop ranting and raving, stop th caps lock, and especially stop insulting the good people here. You’ve made valid points on here previously that we can all agree with and we welcome that. just make them in a calm and civilized manner and everything will be cool. Now what do you see wrong with that? braveheart
The American people are the most generous in the world. The governing class e.g. Dick Chaney the most evil. Forget Stalin; he could have taken lessons from these people! The NSA has been mentioned here in the same light as all the other intelligence agencies. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think I believe it had fallen almost out of use and it was Kissinger who suggested and resurrected it for Nixon. Since then it has expanded like an H bomb as the forunner of all the others in this topic. It is suggested, which I believe, that in fact the “elite” have used it ever since to actually govern the country. Congress and even the President, are merely camouflage for the Military/industrial/banking complex to convey to the sleeping honest public that they still have a democracy. Get real people, America is now a fascist state. Elections are just a pretense.
Pebbles, welcome aboard, and your scenario is plausible up to a point, PROVIDED THAT MEGA-SHTF DOESN’T HAPPEN FIRST. Implementation of Obamacare and the mark of the beast will depend on a functioning power grid. If anything like EMP. solar flare, earthquake, etc. takes out the power grid, that’s when the real fun begins. Survival will be all that counts and the great culling will begin. The first ones to die will be people on any kind of life support, medications, diabetics, etc. The most dangerous people in the initial phase of mega-SHTF will be alcoholics and drug addicts who can no longer get their fix, along with people trying to feed their families, etc. it will truly be hell on earth. Hope everyone’s prepping is in high gear; mine definitely is. braveheart
I believe the goverments know that great clatyclismic end of an age earth changes are imminent. Al gore and the glowbull warming crowd was just a feel good attempt to hide the real cause of climate change. Man didnt cause it and man cant mitigate it. Yes a person who needs to feed their starving child will be very dangerious they will do anything and everything imagenable to aquire that food. The UN NWO Global elete are grasping at straws trying to ensure that they can remain in charge in the aftertime. All their scheming & decietful plans will be for naught. the whole planet will skyrocket baack to an 1800,s lifestyle & existance. Back then most people died by the time they where 40. back then Only folks with the constution of Rasputin lived to really old age. There will be a great culling and most will perish. those who live will probably wish that they where dead. Now on a positive note Its quite an exciting time to be alive on the earth. Just think an end of an age earth change. Mega clatyclisims. Earthquakes ,tornados, volcano eruptions, dramatic weather and climate changes, pole shifts ect. it will be quite an adventure. We cant stop it so just as well embrace the adventure. Most of us will perish but we all die somethime. If you have taken care to not do things that would endanger your immortal soul why should you fear death or anything else?
Thanks for the welcome, Braveheart. Yeah that makes sense. I think I’d almost prefer the total collapse. There’s something a little more hopeful about it. More of the possibility of some kind of restructuring of democracy.
You said in one of your previous posts that you are an alcoholic…….remember that ???
I don’t know how valid the 8 million figure is but that is roughly 2% or one out of every 50 people. Its my belief that no more than 5% at best have a decent clue of what is going on and thats a rich number. Maybe 20% are upset but they do not have sufficient knowledge or understanding of who, what, when and how. All of this ups the statistical average that if your not on the list you damn sure converse with someone who is.
To sum up most of us are lucky to find one in 50 people that we can intelligently talk to about issues that can hold their own in the discussion.
K2: Thanks for the compliment! (I had been feeling soooo underappreciated! 🙂
my name is chase word….i’ll be running shit in the camps when you show up! no worries!
Interesting Statement.
I think that people are already disappearing. If you check news articles closely about missing people, you will find some interesting tidbits about politically incorrect people who do not show up for work, and are never heard from again. Or people who are swat-teamed for no apparent reason and when the swat team goes through the door, a gun accidentally goes off and the homeowner is killed.
So I think it is already happening and not everybody is making it to the FEMA camps.
You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.
Winston Churchill
I have been aware of the treason going on in this country since 1974. I strongly believe that God is in control of everything that goes on, every leader who becomes “king,” He raises them up and He brings them down. Same with nations, He raises them up and when they get too proud and sinful, He brings them down. This situation in America is too similar to the case of Israel being warned by Jeremiah. That nation was in rebellion to God and was warned, yet failed to listen and repent. Recall that Jeremiah warned the king and the people not to resist the judgement which was being directed by God. Note also that Daniel and the three Hebrew boys who survived the fiery furnace were among those taken captive to Babylon and that their obedience to God was their protection.
For all those who would call themselves Christians, ponder John 10:27. It has been a wake up call to me. I haven’t yet heard His Voice, but that is what I am waiting on and expecting. He said “Why call me Lord and do not the things I say?” The only safe place in this world is in His Will.
Check out http://hallvworthington.com/inthefaith.html
for insight into hearing His Voice and being led by Him.
Have I been prepping in every way for many years? I thought so, but realized that my spiritual preps were deficient.
Blessings to all.
Grant
Well, they have there fool proof system of control. But they forgot one thing.
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
Douglas Adams
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And if I may a few quotes from the giants of the ages, to inspire us in these troubling times.
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I have become my own version of an optimist. If I can’t make it through one door, I’ll go through another door – or I’ll make a door. Something terrific will come no matter how dark the present.
Rabindranath Tagore
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To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects.
Margaret Thatcher
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Courage is being scared to death… and saddling up anyway.
John Wayne
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It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it… anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
Douglas Adams
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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
Albert Einstein
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Words which do not give the light of Christ increase the darkness.
Mother Teresa
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By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.
Benjamin Franklin
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Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
Buddha
You know, if we think of this from a tactical stand point..The American people are in for an awakening. If you take into consideration the population of China (1.344 billion (2011)and the total population of the United States 313.9 million (2012) both are not up to date, but still very different.Then you take that the president is, I believe,muslim?, and we are going into communist ways. As in making sure our rights are being taken away, religion is being attacked and pretty much every American is being attacked in some way should make some wonder. Since the NWO is all about obtaining Mexico, America, and Europe for one nation and one money with the rules all being the same. Then to add in China or North Korea making nukes along with Iran, and we are on the top of the “list” to be blown to bits. China is producing people like McDonalds does happy meals, and for a reason. They are starving and do not have enough land for their people and yet,their population is in the BILLIONS. Doesn’t anyone see that there has been a plan in effect for quite some time and we are the ultimate target.Let’s say..we got nuked..that would put us at a disadvantage. Right? Who is to say that some opportunist might see that as a weakness and use it to attack? Well, with Religion being attacked so vigorously, the military being cut back, and now gun control? Think about it….the end result is a country without a defense, no way of protecting ourselves and they want us to take out religion. China could easily overtake us in a matter of days or hours. Then society as we know it? Well, that’s where the few left will be rebels and fighting for the American way. They will be shunned and have a bounty on their head. Dead or alive wouldn’t even be an option…Dead would fit the bill, but you know what? With so many scenario’s on what could happen, true American’s will fight to the death anyways..so in the long run it doesn’t really matter. We will fight for what we believe in with no thought of ourselves but our families futures.
GOD BLESS America and GOD Save our Souls! 🙂 Amen
Hi ChristianAmericanCitizen,
Yep, this kind of stuff does not give me warm fuzzy feelings living on the left coast. Scary crap indeed. I can’t remember the source, but I remember reading that Chinese nationals were already buying 10% of the real estate in Cali. (I believe it was for a very recent year). Dang, we have been Sold out because of greed at many levels starting many years ago. I have a feeling I know where this is headed if your scenario ever plays out. Like the “Watchman” says, “Keep the faith”
Peace out
Bush on the New World Order and then Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wutbmopcyn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifVQ1sscUuE
Just a matter of time people….
GOD Bless
Since I added both presidents names…you know I’m on the list as well..funny.
So much for the super computer and I was watching the second video, Bush talked about wanting to add in China with the New World Order…and here I thought it was just my theory!
Get ya bug out bags ready!
GOD Bless
—Please stand up and be counted while you still can.—
What does that mean exactly? Stand up where? Counted by whom? For what? To do what? When?
All these trite clichés. Posting them in front of “the choir” on web sites and buzz boards under anonymous names accomplishes…what? OR are you waiting for someone else to tell you what to do?
Trollthensa.com
Tonight! Pay back is a bitch.
Jerry Lawler, F#$% YOU! I’ve never said any such thing and you’re just as full of shit as a sewage treatment plant. take your trolling ass someplace else! braveheart
8 million people could rise up!
I think with this comment it might be 8 mil and one…
I think we need to go after the people behind these commie politicians. We need to go after the global bankers. The ones that own controlling interest in the central banks of the world. That includes the federal reserve banks in the united States. They are really a central bank. If not, why does our money say federal reserve note instead of U.S. Dollar.
Barry Soetero Obama “If the people of the US lose trust in their National Security Organizations, their Congress, and their Court system,then we’re gonna have a problem”. For some reason, this sounds like a threat…I guess he doesn’t get that we are way past that point.
Truth is treason, under a tyranny based on lies.
I hope they spell my name right!
The USA & the whole world is in decline. What we now have is the new normal. This is IT a pinnacle as good as it will ever be . In a few years we quite possibly will wish things where as good as they are today. The good times and affulent middle class in the USA was a one time anomaly in the history of the world. After WWII the USA was in a unique position. We where untouched by war on our soil. we had the factories & workforce in place left over from the war production, Europe was bombed out. So we became the worlds producers & builders. If someone needed or wanted something they came here to get it. We had a good 40 year run until the Jimmy Carter fake gas shortage. After that we began to lose ground. We simply got too big for our britches. We should have known nothing last forever. Now we are declining at an accelerated pace. And the goverment really has no clue or desire to change the course. .Everyone is looking for someone or something to blame or punish. Hardly anyone is actually doing and taking any positive actions to put the brakes on the runanway erosion of freedoms and decline of our once great republic. Nothing last forever, Goverment can only police,tax and opress a people to the extent that they allow the Goverment to do so. After a certian point people become indifferent, No punishment is harsh enough and no reward is great enough to entice the people to comply. Thats where it stands today with the second admendment rights today. Nothing the anti gunners & goverment could do will ever cause the majority of USA gun owners to give up their arms. I suspect that same indifference will spread next to Obama,s Mandatory Health Care and eventually income taxes & local ordinaces ect ect until it becomes commonplace. the tide is slowly turning and the parasite goverment is on shaky ground. Nothing last forever. The too big for its britches. deep in debt. out of touch with the citizens goverment is doomed. No amount of survalance & spying on folks will change that fact. The main reason too many takers not enough makers.Also the impending clatyclismic ean of as age eart changes will play a huge role.
basically anyone that excersices his/her right to free speech is on that list.
8 Million is just the tip of the iceberg..The amount of Americans gearing up is way beyond that figure, don’t believe it. Go shopping for guns, ammo, reloading supplies, bdu’s and MRE’s.. This is not a country worried about gun rights. This is a country gearing up for revolution..
NOMI- CATIYMF
DPS
PS Have you noticed the numbers at the local gun range have dropped off.. Must have those scopes dialed in.
We are all so spread out.. must band together with your neighbors in order to survive. Must make sure our LE are oathkeepers!
NSA GFY
NOMI
CATIBF (bu11e7ts f1rs7)
Eight million is a LOT. Cannot round all of us up at once. For those not yet picked up, but awaiting “the knock”, you better be hunting. You owe those who they got already.
If they don’t get me first and they start an Unconstitutional war on my brothers, I will be out hunting.
if they happen to get me first, you guys better push yourselves away from the keyboard and go hunting. I am not afraid of death, but I don’t want it to be for nothing. I will show you the same respect. Fair enough?
I just don’t see the media saying “Our Messiah, President Barack Obama rounded up more of you today.” you’d think it would be something they’d want to keep it quiet until everyone was ’rounded up’
Even if they did want to, or try to round up that amount of people, I mean just where would they hold them?
OK, can one of the folks who are dead certain they are on this list of millions of names tell us how they know that to be fact without having seen the list?
This entire article seems to have been largely copied from http://www.cryptogon (dot) com – (http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=2590)
The Last Roundup: MAIN CORE
Dated MAY 18th, 2008
I like Michael Snyder and all, and love this website, but this is a rehash of what Cryptogon had already compiled FIVE (5) years ago!
People, seriously, wake up. This exact information has been available to you for well over 5 years and you’re JUST NOW getting remotely angry about it?
Imagine the level of advancement these programs have made in 5 years. Imagine the sophistication, the precision, the advanced simulation, and pre-crime abilities it now has or will have soon.
Imagine it in another 5 years.
– Kevin Hayden
Truth is Treason . net
Someone’s gotta help spread the word.
The Bastard US Government will have to come a long way to get me LOL.
I have been warning about this rising dictator and
ambassador for the Devil since before his first inauguration.
Some interesting gematria and numerology connected with Barack Obama.
There are only four verses in the Bible that actually state the word “Antichrist” and they are 1 John 2:18, 1 John 2:22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John 1:7.
1 John 2:18 = 1x2x18=36
1 John 2:22 = 1x2x22=44
1 John 4:3 = 1x4x3 =12
2 John 1:7 = 2x1x7 = 14
Sum of the above. = 106
The 1st Line = 36 which equals the Ordinal 1-1 (1st method) of BARACK (36) (1st name) and the first mention of the word Antichrist in the Bible. 36 is also the Triangular root of 666!
The 2nd Line = 44, which has a connection to Barack as he is our 44th President. The word “Tribulation” is mentioned 44 times in scripture also the Word “Beast” is mentioned 44 times in its singular form in the Book of Revelation.
The 3rd Line = 12, could refer to the 12th star number which is 793 and BHO’s Standard English Gematria. The Muslim world is looking for the 12th Imam so maybe…?
The 4th Line = 14 which equals the Reduced Standard English Gematria of OBAMA (14) (His last name in the last line by the last method).
The sum of those 4 numbers is 106.
Start an ordinal Geometria sequence from the number 106 and you will get this interesting result.
A=106, B=107, C=108, D=109 E=110 F=111 G=112 H=113 I=114 J=115 K=116 L=117 M=118 N=119 O=120 P=121 R=Q=122 R=123 S=124 T=125 U=126 V=126 W=127 X=128 Y=129 Z=130.
B 107
A 106
R 123
A 106
C 108
K 116
Sum of the above = 666
@Frank Abbs – I study and use numerology alot.
You presented a very interesting post/theroy.
Thank you.
It’s past time you people stopped complaining.
We should be at the planning stage now….unless you want to wait for them to come knocking at your door.
The only way to stop them is to network, just like our forefathers did.
They will spy on us anyway, but they can’t stop us all.
We have to get something started. Here, I will go first.
You can find me at: n w w 1 2 9 7 3 @ c o m c a s t . n e t
The spaces are there to trick the auto-delete system.
You type that address like a regular email and we’ll talk. Like I said, I will be here for whoever looks.
Then we can get others to do the same.
And before you know it….
NO MORE REDCOATS
Ty. Goodnight America.
God bless. – N
PS. Let’s get this done.
@Barn Cat
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mahatma Gandhi
End that type of thinking as he/she will give more support than praying all day.
Who cares, become Muslim, save your eternal life & when they try to round anyone up, fight ‘me to the death! They will martyr us all! Duck them their banker buddies & all who work for them!
This information that was leaked about our American surveillance state, is the tip of the iceberg. More things will come out soon.
I’m sure I have been on the list dang it I tend to voice my opinion alot about what I feel is unjust, or inhumane…