Leaked Documents: Homeland Security Exercise Targets “Free Americans Against Socialist Tyranny”

by | Mar 27, 2014 | Headline News | 364 comments

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    Editor’s Note: In a previous report on national security ineptitude we asked what the US government was preparing for given the implementation of a nationwide surveillance web, the militarization of our police forces, and the stockpiling of ammunition and weaponry. In the following report from Infowars.com Paul Joseph Watson answers the question. They’re not preparing for an external foreign or terrorist threat. They’re doing all this for the purpose of maintaining complete control over the American people, who they have, in no uncertain terms, deemed enemies of the state. The documents cited in the report are directly from the US Department of Homeland Security and are to be shown only to “trusted” agents of the organization. Not even those involved in the exercises actually knew why they were there or what they were doing.


    Leaked Homeland Security documents obtained by Infowars reveal details of a joint DHS/FEMA national exercise set to take place this week, one of the components of which revolves around an effort to counter online dissent by a group called “Free Americans Against Socialist Tyranny,” which is disgruntled at the imposition of martial law after an earthquake in Alaska.

    The document again underscores the federal government’s obsession with characterizing libertarians and conservatives as some kind of extremist radical threat.

    The document (PDF) was leaked by an individual affiliated with Stewart Rhodes’ Oathkeepers organization and passed on to Infowars. It is entitled National Exercise Program – Capstone Exercise 2014 – Scenario Ground Truth.

    The document is intended for “U.S. Department of Homeland Security Trusted Agents Only” and is “disseminated only on a
    need-to-know basis.” Even the role players involved in the exercise itself are prohibited from seeing the files.

    The exercise is designed to evaluate readiness in preparation for a catastrophic incident, natural disaster or major act of terrorism. Some of the scenarios which will be in play during the exercise include a series of earthquakes, tsunamis and a nuclear weapons accident.

    On page 125 of the document, a scenario is outlined whereby a group calling itself “Free Americans against Socialist Tyranny” responds to “The U.S. Northern Command mission of Defense Support to Civil Authorities” (or the imposition of martial law) by launching a protest campaign on social media and potentially engaging in cyber attacks.

    According to the scenario, the campaign is driven by suspicion that “the government is responsible for the Alaska earthquake and a “hacktivist” manifesto.”

    “The U.S. Northern Command mission of Defense Support to Civil Authorities has led to increased activity by some anti-government organizations,” states the document. “Currently, the most vocal organization is Free Americans against Socialist Tyranny; using social media, they advertise anti-U.S. rhetoric focusing on the Department of Defense as well as to recruit like-minded individuals to join their “cause”.

    “While some Free Americans against Socialist Tyranny members are capable of conducting adverse cyber operations, the greatest threat is current government employees sympathetic to their cause,” the document adds. “It is believed that there are employees within US Northern Command, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Army, National Guard, and Defense Information Systems Agency that may support Free Americans against Socialist Tyranny doctrine based on individual comments on social media sites. Free Americans against Socialist Tyranny sympathizers may include both former and current members of the military with training on satellite communications, computer network defense, network operations, as well as military command and control.” (Screenshot)

    The scenario also suggests that Northern Command members sympathetic to Free Americans Against Socialist Tyranny may attempt to hack the North American Aerospace Defense Command as a form of retaliation.

    This is by no means the first time that the Department of Homeland Security has characterized anti-big government Americans as domestic extremists.

    A study funded by the Department of Homeland Security, details of which emerged in 2012, characterized Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.

    As we have exhaustively documented on numerous occasions, federal authorities and particularly the Department of Homeland Security have been involved in producing a deluge of literature which portrays liberty lovers and small government advocates as extremist radicals.

    The document also mentions the threat posed by “disgruntled military and Department of Defense civilians,” which ties into the talking point, repeatedly promoted by the DHS and other federal agencies, that returning veterans pose a major domestic terror threat.

    The Capstone Exercise 2014 document makes it clear that a key part of the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA’s preparation for the aftermath of major catastrophic incidents in the United States is centered around combating online dissent which will be sparked as a result of federal authorities and military assets instituting martial law, or what the document refers to as “Defense Support to Civil Authorities”.

    This is particularly chilling given reports that emerged in 2006 concerning a nationwide FEMA program under which Pastors and other religious representatives were trained to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to “obey the government” in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation.

    The fact that the DHS is focusing its cyber security efforts during a major national exercise not on targeting foreign state actors or terrorists but on combating online dissent by conservatives is sure to increase concerns that the federal agency once again has libertarians, patriots and small government activists in the crosshairs.


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      1. Begins…..

        • It’s for our own good.

          • FEMA trains Pastors? Who the hell are they kidding? The govt is anti-Christian. What will they train Pastors for, giving govt-based last rights?

            There was a link here yesterday so I scanned the document. From what I saw it was a running list based on dates of “events”. But I saw no events, just some conditionals. Like they already did some type of previous assessment and moved board pieces around to play with.

            There aint enough govt bodies around to do real drills in all those places. Either that doc is a fraud or its bait. I aint swallowing.

            • I’m reading the biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. It talks about how the Nazis took over the church in Germany as a way to influence the people and drive out real Christianity. I’m sure the same thing will be done here.

              • Of course it will Barn Cat. They ARE the Nazis and the playbook is the same. They have yet to learn the lesson they will soon understand.

                • Calgacus: Ever heard of, Pastor Rick Warren? He became every usa and Globalwide MSM TV News show’s newest “Darling” after his first Book written by him, called “The Purpous Driven Life” sold Over 40-50+ Million Copies within less than 2 yrs time! Earned him aprox $200+ Million in book Profits!

                  Every TV News show began to call him “Americas Pastor” and that title still is his.

                  Well He is the Main top Pastor guy who made that FEMA Deal to Teach as many usa pastors as possible in regular scheduled Class partisipation events he holds across the entire nation, on How to be a pastor that Preaches to their church groups that they MUST OBEY, Romans chapter 13. Which basically says “Obey Your Govnt since All govnts are instituted BY God etc etc”…

                  But they all always Leave Out the Final verses that tell christians How to determine what type of a Govnt Is a righteous good Godly govnt we should trust and obey etc!

                  He also has a Megga Church with over 30,000 regular attendees every sunday located in kalif, and called “Saddle Back Church”…

                  His orig training and JOB was as a typical Psycologist that works at a county job dealing with various folks sent for help by the traffic courts etc, if I recall correctly. Never had Any official “pastor” training.

                  After his book sold so many copies so fast, and he got filthy rich from it he started saddle back church.

                  Thats aprox 6-10 yrs ago time frame…Fast FWD to Todays Rick Warren aka “americas pastor” and now hes also an actual bonafide made member, by invite of the CFR org!

                  The “council on foriegn relations” which for folks who know not of it is a Private org begun around 1920 or so, founded and funded by David Rockefeller, and a couple other well knowns, those names escape my memory now?

                  AND Hes also a bonafide NGO member with Full credentials etc of the UN in some type religions agenda agency based in and OF the UN Org. I think hes conected with ex soviet Gorbachev! Who, since fall of kommie soviets had to ‘escape russia fast” came Here first to the formely closed Calif Presideo Naval base, had 150 desk workers there set up awaiting gorbys entrance to His new “Job”, and Later gorby Moved to the UN HQ in NY for, same new “job” which is to set up a, One World new Religion! Rick Warren is in cahoots with that and with Gorbychev I believe I read. Am 99% certain of it.

                  This self made pastor is the biggest Fraud on the Planet today!…Even re wrote his Own bible version thats so messed up if it weren’t so serious an issue, his bible version be a huge Joke!…hes changed More bible verses than one can count into His ideas of what It should say or mean. Total scam.

                  He has been hooked up with New Ager Oprah, and all the entire TBN Fraud preachers TV channel, owned by Paul and Jan crouch aka the Next Top Two worlds greatest Fraud preachers!…TBN is the tv station they Own outright, with several Hundred satalite affiliates etc globally and where most every scam swindler fraud phony fake usa pastors can be seen on daily basis…Spewing falsehoods, begging for Cash donations, 24/7/365. TBN TV shows Frequently Host many “Guest appearences” by Many “Chabad LoonyBitchers”(Lubavitchers actually) Jewish rabbis to keep all the usa and global jewdeo christians well abreast of what such rabbis desire from those so deluded ones. A Regular 3-Ring Circus “as Seen on TV folks!”

                  Rick warren has been interviewd by TV news like FAUX, CNN ET AL, Most large Nespapers and Major Magazines, endlessly. He is ON record Bragging that , and this goes back at least 5+ yrs now, Brags he has taught several Thousands of usa pastors whatever FEMA told him to Teach them!

                  Once them pastors graduate warrens “school class” they get a FEMA Plaque to Display in front car windshields, which will allow pastors to Pass right thru ALL Cop Road Blocks etc to get to any FEMA catastrophy event to offer “Aid”…Yes, Aid as in be sure to remind all persons present that “God says You Must always OBEY Fed Govnt regardless what its about, no matter how extreme, even if your gut tells you this is wrong!”

                  Another Biggie pastors are taught to do is to “Do or Say whatever it takes to Convince all church members that they MUSY Obey to Give Up all ammo and FIREARMS when the feds govnt or state and local cops too demands You hand over All guns to Them, for Safe keeping of course and you will get guns returned when threat or bad events is Over folks!!”….Yeah and I too has a nice slightly used Gulfstream G-5 jet to sell him! Cheep too! such a deal eh!

                  This part of article above is NO joke folks…Real as it can get on pastors taught FEMA BS Crap…And Many/Most preachers have Gladly Flocked at own expence to quickly attend a class by Rick Warren, americas Pastor who’s also so filthy rich now, like Many pastors today desires to be, they cannot wait to attend a class on “How to scam swindle fellow christians and patriots into the loving arms of every satanic evil Traitor the feds, states and local govnts can Muster for such an “event”!

                  But hey! Do Not take my word for it go research him and FEMA Pastors trainning etc see just whats really going on behind backs of unknowing reg folk christians and avg whitey nationwide…Your Grand demise and exterminations pre planned and All every govnt agency needs is…A Few Good Pastors, that most all american delusional sheep can trust and Follow straight into an end game scenario FEMA Camp!…Or closest synagouge of satan if all camps are too full!

                  All I wrote of Here is but a small tip of iceberg of who/what Rick warrens all about and does etc…research more to know.

                  • Them Guys you just wrote me a book. Ive heard of Warren and his church but boy I never knew anything much more. This is opening up my eyes to something very sinister going on.
                    Ill be sure to read up on Warren and see what I can learn. Thanks for the dots to connect with.

                    So back to the exercise w/ FEMa. Do you have info on the numbers of people involved in any drills? Do you know any real drills taking place today through next week? Ive done some searches and cant call up any info or local news at all. Try some of the towns in Alaska and see for yourself. All that comes up is that document at scribd.

                  • Them Guys, I agree with most of what you have written and am sure that there are some pastors who will fall hook line and sinker for this deception, however there are still many good shepherds out there who aren’t deceived. I have read some about Warren and believe you are off on the timeline. I think the saddleback church came before the book, I remember reading about him in the early 90’s and I think the book was after that. But you summed things up rather nicely.

                  • Them guys, I’ve already researched everything you mentioned and I know you’re speaking the truth. Those are also all the reasons ANYONE needs to avoid going to church these days. You’re going to get a message that’s no different from what you get from MSM. I don’t think there’s one church left out there that preaches the truth anymore. same reasons I avoid going to them. Just wanted you to know you gained another fan. Keep it coming.

                  • my pastor and I have already talked and he doesn’t buy it. He knows we are in trouble.

                  • The author of Romans 13 was thrown in prison for not following unjust laws.

                  • The power of religion goes very far in this country,
                    Religion=money=power=brainwash the sheeple! One does not need to go to church to pray,or give money to worship. Big church is no different than big government, it’s all corrupt! Read the bible, interpit it for yourself even if you’re not religious, it might open the right door for ya…or not:-)

                  • Them guys/Calgacus/Highspeed/Braveheart—-

                    Ever consider the idea, that amid (evil)political skullduggery, there exists opportunity to exploit their agenda, for a worthy cause?

                    Example & quote per “Them Guys” above:

                    “..Once them pastors graduate Warrens “school class” they get a FEMA Plaque to Display in front car windshields, which will allow pastors to Pass right thru ALL Cop Road Blocks etc to get to any FEMA catastrophy event to offer “Aid”…


                    ..focus on the windshield displayed FEMA pass..allowing free transit thru govt/police roadblocks..


                    Surely, a good print shop could easily counterfeit said pass…provided they had a copy to duplicate!
                    Might cost you a Franklin or so(for a small handful), but when tyranny springs their ambush…methinks said cost would be “cheap insurance”.

                    ..if nothing else, possessing such would likely “smooth” the passage of folks heading to their bug-out locations.


                    ..think “unconventional”…as it pisses the govt off!!!

                  • The Rev. Terry Cole Whitaker. Now there was a piece of work. Someone I knew fell for her line of hokum big time. Billy Graham and Fulton Sheen were the only religious people on TV that have ever been worth watching.

                  • Churches in the United States are mainly 501c(3)designated non-profit corporations, chartered by the state (government) and ultimately owned and regulated by such. At the end of the day, they will do the will of Big Brother and the pastors won’t bite the hand that feeds them.

                    Case in point: LDS church caving to the demands of political correctness and supporting homosexuals in the Boy Scouting program. As a Mormon and Eagle Scout, this makes me sick.

                  • This is the most long winded, off topic post today…LOL

                  • SADDLEBACK CHURCH???!!

                    Holy crispy cr*p I know that place… I’ve been there before for company lunches hosted by renting out space from them…

                    Damn, you know what? That’s really too bad. It really is. I’m normally against obviously super expensive mega-churches, but after seeing what I saw happen to kids in San Pedro… who had nowhere to go after school… I figured you know what? If the congregation wants to pay for something like this… it beats the hell out of the streets.

                    The place has a HUMONGOUS youth center. In fact the place looks kind of like mini-Disneyland.

                    But… as with anything ultra-expensive and flaunting it… I guess I should have known better. There was this place in Cali called Hope Chapel (actually it was a franchise much like McDonald’s). Don’t even get me started on that place. Oh God… that was just… bad. Bad with a capital BAD.

                  • Hunter…..also has been suggested that we get some civil defense gear.
                    Or equivalent..vests…hats…badges….join up with these scumbags…
                    Get your gear…easy passes….on your way……God bless

              • There will be (and I think already is) an apostate church at the end of the age. That is what they will use to try to appease us.

                • Yes, ALREADY IS.

                  Look at the insanities that flow like vomit from the mouth of “Pope” Francis, a man whose ordination is likely invalid, hence is not even a priest.


                  • “Surely, a good print shop could easily counterfeit said pass…provided they had a copy to duplicate!” —Hunter, with everyone having a camera phone these days, who needs the sticker itself! What they don’t know, won’t hurt anyone…

                  • Sixpack-

                    You possess a very sharp mind!!!
                    I’m glad you’re on “our” side…

                • “…characterizing libertarians and conservatives as some kind of extremist radical threat.”

                  Wouldn’t you agree that libertarianism is indeed the opposite of a police state, hence a ‘threat’ to the police state?

                • There is an apostate church but they don’t know it. The Catholic Church is now run by heretics who chooseto iignore the Bible.

                  • I’m pretty sure since the Bible doesn’t condone gay sex, it means with young altar boys as well…just saying.

                • Calagusa and Highspeed loafer: First, Yes I fully agree not all pastors are that way. A great method or rule of thumb is check if they are or aint a IRS 501C operated church Corp…Chuck Baldins new montana church is NOT a IRS 501C type and hes free to speak all truths and Does.

                  His latest new article it Now posted at newswithviews site. Yesterday I posted some of his article about deception and falshoods etc in many todays churches…Great article he wrote.

                  NOW as to Calagaus asked me do I have More fema infos etc?…No none but all I have ever read or still find like todays article states on fema…BUT BOTH you guys May enjoy greatly the Seven Noahide Laws info I did Post just a bit Below This posting here now…

                  I posted a partial website facts info on noahaide law stuff by former US rep kalif Dannmeyer’s huge expose’ of how it got passed in secret and was signed into us code fed laws by GH Bush in 1991…Its main goal dsign is to use that Fed law to Kill off christians for Idol worship if they believe in Jesus which that law considers as an false IDOL aka Christ is false IDOL etc…

                  I Also Posted a direct Hyper-LINK to that website but posted it in Very Next down Post due to moderations holds posts up awhile usually…Hopefully that LINK will be avail soon for you guys to check out…Its no joke. Actual FED Laws ON books Now since 1991, law as passed exact same way as 1913 Fed reserve was done by scamed US Reps and senators told to go home for holidays!…Then small few who remeined behind fast passed it all by unrecorded VOICE votes!.99% of all 535 in congress and senate never knew any of it till long after done!

                  Citizens of usa barly a few Today ever heard of it!

                  DEATH to Christ Believers by Beheadings! from fraud laws of talmudic rabbi “Inventions” which never existed ever prior untill their evil minds thought it all up.

                  SCROLL DOWN Read my post on it, and if not yet avail? LINK xtra post will be avail soon so check back for it…Wont take but 45 minits to read it all maybe less time yet…Want to Learn Truths?…Then Read it All..You will freek out about Noahide laws worse even than all current fema stuff as if that werent bad enough eh!

                  ps sorry if I got timeing of warrens book VS church mixed up a bit…I only went from past memory of it all several yrs ago read of it and him etc.

              • You can’t “drive out Christianity” from the heart of true Christian.

                • “””You can’t “drive out Christianity” from the heart of true Christian.”””

                  No, but they can be deceived…

              • It’s a great book – something everyone can learn from.

              • Also a good read: When A Nation Forgets God- 7 lessons we must learn from Nazi germany by Erwin W. Lutzer.

              • BC. Probably got the playbook rolled up in their back pocket.

              • @ Barncat – Sir you are dead-on accurate with you information. Let me tell you all a story. I attend mass every Sunday and in my area I have my pick of 3 churches close to me. So, about 3 weeks ago I decided to go to St. John’s since its closer. After mass I grab a bulletin because the preist for this parish always writes an opinion peice. So, I’m reading and I can’t believe what I’m seeing. He wrote a very slanted article about the 2nd amendment under the guise of Violence Prevention Month. Anyways, here’s the bulletin, see for yourself. I think it’s a very dangerous game to be misinforming people and using the church to do it. It’s bad enough that people already associate liberalism/pedophelia with Catholicism, now they’re trying to be anti-gun too? WTF! I am strong in my faith and I will never surrender my firearms. I like to take the St. Michael approach…kick ass and take names!


                • VA Patriot-

                  See John Q’s post above, sir.
                  He’s the real deal, per a true Catholic warrior for Christ!

                  ..yes, he garners a lot of flak…because he’s ALWAYS on target & dropping truth bombs on the lie factories!

                  I advise you to flee that V-II church & seek an SSPX mass, if possible..as they embrace St. Michael & his methods, w/ a passion.

                  Good luck!

                  • @ Hunter

                    You are too generous. I am just doing the best I can stumbling towards Heaven.

                    I have repeatedly tried to post important info about the Zio-takeover of the SSPX, but it has repeatedly been censored. I will keep trying.

                • Pastor Tom would already be out on his ass if I was a member of his congregation. Hard to imagine that coming from the clergy, but considering how the times are, I suppose it shouldn’t be a surprise. Just WTF???

              • They are already doing it look at the push of “social justice” ideals like Jesus was a socialist! The white house has been doing outreach pushing this agenda. Rev. Jim Wallace is supposedly a spiritual advisor a raving social justice advocate.

            • And Putin and Russia are expected to trust the U.S. and other western allies that they are going to not have Ukraine join NATO? There is some real indications that Russia is going to create a land bridge to Crimea and take Trandinestria back into Russia, both that would mean a full invasion of the Ukraine. It is all about trust. Do any of you trust the U.S. government with your own lives? I wish I could, but I would be crazy if I said so. Why should foreign leaders trust a country’s leaders that are bold faced liars and work on deception as the governing policy towards others countries AND their own citizens that pay the bills for the country to function.

              One has to ask yourself this. In a country that is SUPPOSE TO adhere to the right and freedom to have an opinion, AND that Constitutional right to express that opinion about how the government is doing, right or wrong. Why that same government would put people that fully support the Constitution and the rights to the people to prevent tyranny would put those same people on some blacklist surely shows which pathway the country, ANY country has taken.

              • BI, good day my friend, and excellent points you make. I’ve said this many times before and it bears repeating. There is nothing this government does that has any legitimate basis to it. No govt. official can lecture to any of us about anything. go ahead and declare war against the people and see what 100,000,000 gun owners do to your stupid asses. they don’t stand a chance against us.

                • @ braveheart. This is why I am so sick and tired of all this garbage and come to this site to attempt to get some truth from the many free thinkers here. People here make many good points about so much.

                • Braveheat, I wish I was as optomistic as you on the 100 million number. In the Revolutionary War only 10% of the population actually supported the Continental’s quest at the beset and gradually gained support to about a third. The other third were considered “yeoman” who were adverse to war and remained neutral while the remainder, Tories, back the British.
                  When the hammer comes down the question will be how many bravehearts will we have out of that 100 million who wil not comply to the demands of the Government and our “preachers?”

                  • mqg25

                    Just enough to do the job.

            • I don’t believe anything that comes from the corp, or is purported to come from the corp.

              I think its minion know when they start coming for us, we will start going after them. They want as many to be afraid of the paper tiger as they can make afraid of it.

              I am not afraid of it, and no amount of propaganda will make me be. They are far outnumbered, and except for their weapons of mass destruction, outgunned.

              They are afraid of us, so in the liberal spirit are trying to make us as afraid as they are.

              I will not fire the first shot, or draw first blood in their war. That is not what they are afraid of anyway, it is the backlash AFTERWARDS that scares the hell out of them.

              They know their life ends upon the first use of mass force against the People. That’s why the police are being militarized. The people will stand for some abuse at the local level, but an attack on a large mass of people will prove to be the straw that breaks the camels back.

              I can only die once, and the thought does not scare me nearly as much as it does those cowards because of what will happen after they die.

              • Don’t you mean the straw that breaks the commies back?

              • First I would like to see the entire document (all 160 pages). Does anyone know where we can get that? I used to be a big Alex Jones fan. Not anymore. I still read the articles as you can always get a little meat of a bone. A couple of years ago he ran an article which feathered a picture of one of our employees up here in the Pacific Northwest with a storey of pedophilia in Texas. Our employee asked him to remove the picture and correct this. Alex did not. Our employee sued and won. Alex has used sensationalism and bent truth to wright stories. This is the very thing we complain the conventional media do. We don’t need this. There is enough TRUE stuff out there to show the American people what is going on without putting any “gravy” on it.

                As Gods Creation stated they will throw the first stone. Now is the time to start figuring out where the folks that will try to bring this country down are, were they live, were they do business, and there habits. This will be great intel for latter. When the folks who have had enough finally say no more, this info will be very handy. At some point we will have to put our foot down and say you’re done. They are terrified of what regular citizens will do in the back lash. 12 million prepers, 100,000,000 gun owners, and many fed up folks would scare anyone. Also on your list of addresses: the offices of… The sierra club, ACLU, DNC, PETA, … well you get the idea. Also watch your church. If they gravitate to the “dark side” find a new church. PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS. We live in interesting times.

                • Alex Jones and Glen Beck. Beware. Not sure just what they really believe and whose side they are really on.

              • They are neither outnumbered nor outgunned. Or at least, not in any way that isn’t easily and quickly correctable.


                Let me put it to you this way. Store your own drinking water…

                • TG-

                  Copy that!

                  ..and if one has a well, check out “deep well manual pumps”…again cheap insurance in a collapse environment.

                  ..start w/ “flojack”(see add here at Mac’s) & go from there.

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            • And there here among us. Lookie we have the red thumb Nazi already sneering at our comments.

              • Sticks and stones Calacus…. they do it cuz they fear us….. as they should at this point.

              • It’s just your “badge of honor” to have a couple of trolls, who have nothing better to do than to follow your posts and thumb them…you have now arrived.

                • Sixpack: I heard a rumor that soon, PEOPLE magazine is going to approach Me and John Q Public and ask us to be featured on the magaz Cover with inside article on Online Poster folks who tell so much TRUTH that they always recieve the greatest number red Thumbs nationwide!

                  Kinda like the magazines other cover story once per year on whos top 10 Greatest Woman Magnets in america!

                  • LOL, if that’s true, then finx and eisen surely have a shot at the cover…ROFLMAO

            • A Pastor has come forward to blow the whistle on a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to “obey the government” in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation.

              The FEMA directors told the Pastors that attended that it was their job to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any of these eventualities. The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to “obey the government” when martial law is declared.

              FEMA Training Documents for Pastors

              It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the “cowboy mentality” of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure. It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that “this is for their own good.”

              We have received confirmation from other preachers and Pastors that this program is a nationwide initiative and a literal Soviet model whereby the churches are being systematically infiltrated by government volunteers and used as conduits for martial law training and conditioning. The Pastor was told that over 13,000 counties were
              already on board.

              “We get the the picture that we’re going to be standing at the end of some farmer’s lane while he’s standing there with his double barrel, saying we have to confiscate your cows, your chickens, your firearms,” said Pastor Revere.

              There aren’t enough of ‘them’–just more boogey men.

              • The ‘community centers’ will be the local schools and Walmarts where they will pass out drugs and mass vaccinations??

                • JayJay, I’ve seen that article elsewhere that you’re referring to. I haven’t been in a church since I was a teenager and don’t plan on going to one.

                  • “”” I haven’t been in a church since I was a teenager and don’t plan on going to one.”””

                    A 501 church is the LAST place you will find Jesus.

                • JayJay,

                  Can you provide further info on this story??? a link or something?

                  • infowars.com/articles/ps/fema_plan_use_pastors_pacify_for_martial_law.htm

                • JayJay: Check out This eye opener! A Website to Inform folks of what NOAHIDE 7 Laws are, How it got scam Passed into FED US Code Law, and Signed into FED law books in 1991 By GH Bush as Prez then! John Q Public Yesterday in Prior article Posted info on Noahdie Laws etc..Well Heres the unrefuateble proof by a former kalif US Rep, Mr Dannameyer whos own website exposes it all and how both houses congress pased it in identical way as 1913 FED resreve act got done…#1 Send all but small few, 4-5 of each congress house and senate Home for Holidays! THEN #2 Hold a Fast VOICE vote Unrecorded by names! Then get Prez GH Bush to sign into law before ANY others in or Outside congress finds out it got passed and is Now actual FED law!


                  Bill Dannemeyer
                  U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

                  Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ! A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil. On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine! On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law.

                  Before you respond, “NO, that cannot be – not in our free country!” let me explain.

                  The passage of this law, HJ Res. 104, is especially troublesome to me because I was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives at the time it was passed. Even worse, I was in the House Chamber the very day that is was passed, voting on other legislation. Yet I, as a U.S. Congressman, had NO KNOWLEDGE that it had been passed or even that it was to be brought up for a vote.

                  How could this be? How could the deception be so pervasive that those of us who had sworn to uphold our country’s Constitution, particularly those of us (few, indeed) who really took our position seriously as the protectors of the people, could be totally in the dark regarding the content of this bill and its passage by the leaders of this country – by treachery and deceit?

                  Here’s how it happened!

                  On January 31, 1991, an innocuous-sounding Resolution was introduced, designating March 26, 1991 as “Education Day, USA.” It was purposely given this name to deceive the American people. It was, in fact, a Double Deception because not only did the Resolution have nothing to do with “Education,” it was also deceptively billed as a vehicle for recognizing the eighty-ninth birthday of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. But in truth, the Resolution was nothing less than a secret, under-handed plot to control the American people by the Noahide Laws – a subterfuge for the elimination of Christianity, the elimination of all Christians, and the enslavement of all remaining “Gentiles.”

                  READ ENTIRE ARTICLE! at website of…

                  AM Posting LINK in Next Post, seperatly due to may get stuck in moderations awhile, Look for Link to READ it all.

                  • H.J.RES.104
                    Latest Title: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States but has been a United States citizen for at least 20 years.

                    What I found

                  • The only problem with relieving the non-present congressmen of their guilt, is that at some point, THEY DID FIND OUT ABOUT THIS SCAM, AND DID NOT AT LEAST TRY TO REPEAL IT. They did not, with the exception of Dannemeyer, speak out about it either. Was there a gun to their heads? Then why is there only ONE person speaking out?

                  • Gosh, we really have to beware of those Middle East religions. Both Talmudic Jews and Moslems believe in beheading Christians.

                • Since they cover issues that the LSM won’t even touch, we can never know how accurate ANY news is. If you can’t read the articles and think for yourself and make your own choices, why bother reading anything at all?

                  /sarcasm on/
                  Just watch TV, you’ll surely know the truth then…
                  /sarcasm off/

                • JayJay: Not sure what You mean? I Just NOW, since my Link has cleared mods, clicked on it and it loaded up as fast as I can click mouse. went Driect to Actual Website of US rep(former rep) Dannamyer on Seven Noahide laws stuff.

                  The website Top Headline states “Now the Govnt can leagally Kill Christians” as wrote in my prior posting.

                  Maybe Your browser inserted it wrongly? TRY again is all I can say or do so Manually by typeing it in. I had zero troubles with that Link.

            • Does anyone know if these pastors who were trained, were trained at some gathering up in Vancouver Canada? Does anyone else know if their pastor took a trip to Canada in the last year or two?

            • Calgacus,

              I agree the Govt is about as anti-Christian as you can be, but believe it or not I don’t think this program started out that way. Let me explain.

              Back around 2000-2005, we had a commander at LAPD who was a seriously religious and good man. He believed that to combat gangs, drugs and all forms of shit heads on the streets, the young gang members (who very often had no male figure in their lives DUE TO their fathers being into gangs, drugs and currently in prison)needed to find religion, restore the family somehow and give their young gang members a reason to leave the life in the street gangs and show them that there were better things out there.

              The program actually started fairly well, and preachers and good hearted families worked with the kids who had not yet gone down the road of the total shit head yet. They got several kids out of gangs and turned several lives around.

              However, like Rahm Emanual said, never let a good crisis (or in this case program) go to waste. The command staff then instituted the federal program you see in the video above because the framework was already there with good programs designed to help kids out of gangs. The base for the indoctrination was already set up.

              Was this the purpose from the beginning? In the program I detailed it was absolutely not. That same commander refused to allow officers to wear BDUs and would not allow officers to walk around like the SS. I talked to him t length and he understood how easy the transition would be from good intentions to total control over the citizens. He would bring these things up in meetings and he was labeled as a “member of the God squad”. He retired in 2007 and the programs have been adopted to what you see above.

              Funny how he was right again, huh. But I truly believe there are still a majority of good people in the military and police departments. If you wanna see where the problems are, look to their command staffs. The USAF just purged more commanders in the Nuclear program. How many old school commanders have been purged now and replaced with commanders who are loyal to the new regime/order? Hitler did the same thing. But remember, the PDF and info on this program was leaked by a concerned officer loyal to the Constitution, and in the scenario itself it labels that very person who leaked the info as the greatest threat.

              Only time will tell I guess.

              Keep your powder dry,

        • Never saw myself as much of an extremist radical.

          But I should have known better. My second-grade
          teacher said so for bringing mustard sandwiches
          to school in my bag lunch.

          • Nothing better than mustard on a fresh hot biscuit first thing in the AM. ummmmm

            • I like a little lettuce and onion on mine.

          • Lunch bag? I was guessing you were more the “Lone Ranger” lunch box sorta guy… Maybe Rin Tin Tin..

            • Beyond my wildest dreams, wrong.

              We’re talking POOR.

              I was the only boy in a class of six
              through the 6th grade.

              The township to this day still only has
              a year round population of 450 residents.

              • Gene told me he had tomato sandwiches.:-)

        • NO plan survives first contact with the enemy. Let them play.

          • Not worried,

            That is sooooo true!!!

        • NEWS IN 2 MINUTES– Ebola– extremely high threat of it spreading to other countries… THIS IS EXTREMELY SCARY SHIT!!! If you haven’t read the book about Ebola (true story– Stephen King said it was the scariest book he ever read– and its a TRUE story!!!)– you really better read it.. dern, forgot the name of it…but I had to put it down at times because it scared the crap out of me. They have labs here in the US where they did experiments on monkeys with it… it was done in “lab 4” or whatever,under the ground, with a bunch of steel doors a foot or two thick and the person had to wear space suit…and go in all these decommission rooms whatever to clean up before coming outside.

        • Its evern spread to CANADA!!! Now I KNOW I GOT LEAVE FOR THE MOUNTAINS–

          See Collapsenet.com about more details… and for God’s sake, read the book about it… for got name– about EBOLA!!!!

        • Its called, “THE HOT ZONE”… about Ebola. Just a warning- READ IT!!

          These really are end times, people. (And I don’t even believe in End Times!)

          • Anon-

            Allegedly both EBOLA & MARBURG viruses have already been weaponized @ Ft. Detrick, Maryland, USA and @ the Vector Institute in Koltsovo-Novosibirsk Oblast, Russia….both strains are “airborne transmitted/infectious!”

            …additionally (it is rumored), there exists a “civilian level 4 lab”..funded by the DoD, in Alabama..developing the next generation bio-weaponry…its strictly a ‘black-budget’ operation.

            ..such is hearsay nowadays!

        • Hey….DHS…I build .coms. Let me know who you want the skinny on…. I know who all these jerks are. ha. Thumbs down bitches.

          The NWO is going to win.
          So roll with it and live the life.

          You never were free…you just thought you were.

          Only the elite 1% are free…I’m getting there…

          Look at your place in history and pick your path.

          I’ll be the guy on the other side of the glass passing a call on your ass.

          Cha ching$$$

          Long after your wife has left you for being a crazy prepper…I’ll be shagging her butt.
          I’m just saying..get a visual on that one. ha

          • NWO, if you really believe you’re so tough, BRING IT ON, MOFO! Let’s see what you’re really made out of.

          • NWO-

            click..click..click..(adjusting elevation turret on mil-dot scope).

            Breathe, relax, focus & slowly take up trigger slack…

            -BOOM- (w/ recoil)!

            *squelch from radio…mic is keyed: “..target is negated”

            Reply: -squelch- “..roger, copy that!”


            That “visual” is for “YOU & all your kind”, asshole!

            • NWO: Back in Detroit I knew some hard core biker club guys. They too had troubles with Your type guy…Later when the local detroit channel 7 TV news reported that a Home exploded, Before cops or firetruck could arrive in time, TV reported it was due to a “Nat Gas gone wrong explosion”!…I just sat back on my couch and…Smiled! As I Knew it were’nt NO nat gas explosions caused that home to be turned into Dust!

              One just never may Know in advance what their biggest worry should be eh…Or should I say Whom it shall be.

          • One problem with that philosophy. My wife would be the first to gun you. I’m actually a little more merciful than she is.

        • And they don’t realize it’s the government who is anti-government.

        • I assure you that attacks against socialist tyranny will not be limited to protests in social media and cyber attacks.

        • OT

          The supreme court ruled that corporations ARE people so that they can donate money to politicians. Now there is trouble. If people have religious freedom and corporations are people, then corporations have religious freedoms and do not have to comply with the AHA that violates their beliefs. You can’t have it both ways, except by a tyrannical government.

        • OK,Natchez shooter supplies has winchester long rifle .22 @ .08 a round,listed less then a hour ago so may already be sold out,good luck buyers.

      2. They can’t wait to stifle us.

        • The First Amendment and the Second Amendment are supposed to “guarantee” our rights.

          I went yesterday to renew my Weapons Carry Permit – you know, my “right” to BEAR arms?

          In order to exercise my “right” –
          – it cost me $79.25
          – my “right” is only valid for five years
          – I had to be photographed
          – I had to be fingerprinted
          – I had to answer extremely personal questions
          – I had to pay an extra $1.00 for a 90-day extension on my current permit because the Government server is down, and my new permit might not arrive on time
          – I was subjected to a huge amount of literature detailing the penalties I would incur if I broke the law. There was not one word of praise to me for being a law-abiding, tax-paying, upstanding citizen
          – When my new permit arrives, will the Government mail it to me? No. I have to take time during business hours, drive back to the courthouse, stand in line and pick up my permit myself

          All this to exercise what is called a “right”.

          Don’t kid yourself. If Big Government can restrict one “right”, they can restrict all “rights”.

          • “Don’t kid yourself. If Big Government can restrict one “right”, they can restrict all “rights”.”
            Only, ONLY, if the people ALLOW them to!!!!!!!!!!

            • You mean like Sovo just did?

          • Sovo,

            What state are you in? We have lifetime permits here. I got mine last March after waiting 3 months. I agree it sux to get finger printed but I’m happy I can carry without risking a felony. It’s a trade off that is against the constitution but I have a family to support and protect.

            I didn’t have to answer any questions. Just pay the state fee and the local fee. As long as you pass the background check your good to go.

            • Must be nice. I’m in Georgia, which is actually one of the more gun-friendly states. A new law has cleared the state legislature, and awaits Governor Deal’s signature, which allows gun carry in places it wasn’t allowed before.
              Notwithstanding, the Carry Permit process is extremely anti-liberty.

              • I’m suprised GA isn’t more liberal than it is…. since it’s basically the mecca for a certain people.

                • Atlanta is extremely liberal. Suburban and rural Georgia are conservative.

              • Sovo, what part of GA? I have family in north GA, only 20 mi. from GA-TN border.

                • RB, I’m in the Atlanta suburbs, along with 3 – 4 million other people.
                  I have family in TN, about 20 mi. north of the GA border. That’s my BOL. Mennonite farm country on the Hiwassee/Ocoee rivers.

                  • I wouldn’t share that info.with the unwashed masses-Gov trolls now have an idea where your going…The state park nearby is great but now the rest of us know as well…

                  • Sovo, that’s beautiful country and some great people there also.

                  • Now if he would just give us his picture we could be sure we have the right guy.

                  • Hey Sovo, my grandpa was the dynamite man for the construction of the Hiwassee dam.

                  • I bet we know some of the same people. A midwife I used to assist does births in that area…;)

                • Yeah Cuz, next thing you know you’ll have them Feds nosing around Dalton. We ain’t fighting to protect your Preps. But we love you man.

                  • NGIC, I didn’t exactly get specific on what part of north GA so don’t worry.

                • Hey renegade, have you ever been to copper hill, blue ridge, mineral bluff, Andrews, ranger? That’s where I have lots of family.

                  • Highspeedloafer, I’ve been thru there before. Beautiful country and great people.

              • Wyoming has no conseal carry laws. Nor do we have permit or testing laws

          • Five years? Lucky duck! Here in CA (if you’re fortunate enough to live in one of the few cities or counties that will issue a CCW), it’s only good for TWO years. My wife and I both carry, but it was quite an ordeal to jump through all the hoops. But well worth it…

          • I agree this is BS for permission to carry, It’s your right. to bear arms… I will never get any kind of permit. It’s registration for confiscation. They know where the guns are…

          • Move to arizona! Freedom still exists here. Wherever your from sounds like crap no offense to you just your state and it’s laws.

            • Azprepper:
              I was looking at south central Missouri in a couple of years to go to, I have land there.
              Arizona sure look inviting, been there a couple of times and loved it.
              I retire in two years going to get the HE!! out of Illinois. to DA@# many commies and zombie mopes to deal with.
              I the SHTF I will be retired sooner, but don’t want to retire that way.
              S.T.S.F.P. N.R N.S. N.REB

            • Firearms are just the norm over here. Gotta get McCain out, and a few others. Freedom is still alive here compared to the rest of the country, cause we keep it that way.

            • Arizona? Half the state belongs to Mexico. The area off I-8 is posted as being to dangerous to walk in because of the drug gangs and that is seventy miles from the border. You elect the open borders amnesty twins Mclame and that flake Flake as senators. Maybe Prescott and Flagstaff but all the other large population areas are pretty bad.

          • Sovo, thats the beauty of living in Wyoming, and a hand full of other states where no conceal carry permit is required. Only problem is, we need a carry permit if we want to go and carry concealed in some of the other less free states. I have a friend that is a Chief Deputy, and he says people are always asking him if they should get a carry permit, and he says why would you want “anyone to know that your carrying concealed”. So don’t be so quick to attack LE ( this is not aimed at anyone in particular). But there is still the problem of going out of state. I personally wrestle with this myself. Trekker Out. Free Men Own Guns, Slaves Don’t.

            • Trekker’ re: LE, they treat people like free men in AZ and WY because they know half the people are packing, and that just accounts for the legal ones. They beat, probe, and defile pretty much everywhere there is strict control or carry laws. The statistics are obvious, and the second amendment movement should really stop ignoring this fact. They are the city guards, our toys have changed but men remain the same.

          • Sovo, what state do you live in?

          • Roger that Sovo. Ain’t nothing that grows in your hand but your peter.

          • Yet if you are a cop on duty or off you can shoot anyone for any reason with no fear of prosecution just so long as you feared for your safety. Meanwhile the peons are required to take any abuse the criminals inflict with severe consequences on themselves should they fight back and defend themselves.

        • Sovo, it’s not they can’t wait to stifle us. Their problem is the CANT stifle us.

        • Sovo, as long as you have the means to resist, you won’t be stifled.

      3. Whoever would leak anything to infowars…

        Yes, If ALEX says it, it MUST be true.

        He’s not sensationalistic.


        Infowhores dot com

        • yeah, you’re probably right — they made the whole thing up…

          Maybe they got the same guy who photoshopped Obama’s Birth Certificate to do this document too….

          • Then why run with it, Mac?

            • He was being sarcastic.

          • Mac,

            Please research “dreams of my real father” Its the real story of barry. I hate to say it but he has a real birth certificate. It was a call in birth.

            The story is his real dad is Frank Marshall Davis. He knocked up barrys mom and then made up the whole story about the kenyan farmer so he wouldn’t get grilled being a CIA agent sent to Hawaii to spy on the commi party.

            • So barry’s grandpa wouldn’t get grilled. They moved barrys mom there from Washington state and she didn’t like it because the natives didn’t accept outsiders so she banged the first american she seen which was Davis.

              Davis was beinged watched by barrys g pa and then his daughter gets pregnate by the leader of the commi movement in HI. Davis was married and didn’t want to claim barry so they had to make up the kenyan story using a exchange student barry’s g-pa helped get educated in the states.

              When barry got older and learned the truth, he wanted to follow in the footsteps of his dad the commie. The film said we almost lost HI to the commi’s because of the strong eastern influence on their society.

              Patroits need to learn this info so we don’t look uninformed using the “birth certificate” arguement. Much love though Mac on the site!

            • There’s a lot of interesting history of his mother too. She was reportedly a nude model and probably in porn movies too.

              • @barncat

                Those nude/porn images were mostly taken by Frank Marshall Davis. The film details this. He was a photographer involved in porn.

                • Never trust a man whose mother’s name is Stanley! Most especially when she can only get off by breeding Negroids! When the Kikes pick them for office, they pick the vilest of the vile and they outdid themselves with this POS/POTUS. Pray for our country folks, as you’ve never prayed before!!!

                  • Really??? You use the word “kike” and then talk about prayer? Why don’t you pray and repent? Anybody who hates the Jews doesn’t know God.

                  • BC I usually agree with you when your in debate with those that spend most of their comments slamming the Jews, but it seems your always seeking to start a fight. Aurelius uses the term kikes and you say pray and repent. Well I consider myself a very strong and out spoken Christian, but as such we must resist making comments about people that we don’t really know to be the absolute truth. Such as Obama’s mother, yes I have seen these emails also, and she may have posed for nude pictures but do we really know that she was in porn movies, or is that something that has just been claimed by Obama’s enemies. Be very careful of what and who you accuse, pray and repent. “James 3-8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison”. I know I have trouble controlling mine. Trekker Out. I’m No Friend Of Obama’s!

                  • Stanly Da COAL Burner!! OyVEY!

                  • Isreal, the only nation in the Middle East where a Christian can worship without fear. God Bless Isreal! Trekker Out.

                • Indy Colts and Barncat, I’ve seen those images at another website back in 2008; can’t remember what site now, but they do exist.

                  • FYI: for Barn Kitty Cat: Actually the word “KIKE” began in use when the early groups of russian jews Flooded into usa. When they first arrived at NY ellis Island Immigration processing center.

                    When US Customs/Immigration officers doing those processings of new immigrants to usa, they had arivees fill out Paperwork etc…At Bottom of said papers where person Signs their full name, Many new arivals of jewish russian folks were not able to read and write at all.

                    So the US customs personel simply told them to do like all others does and Place an “X” in name place and some others will Witness that X as their name signature.

                    Well being jewish, that quickly caused a small riot. Seems those new ariving russian jews so Hated Jesus and Christians, and christianity overall….That every jew flat out refused to ever place any “X” in their name spot on a form or paper etc.

                    When confused Custom worker guys asked what reason jews had to so oppose use of an “X” when they cannot write own name?…jews complained that an “X” is way too close in symbol to a CROSS like Used to crisify Christ On!

                    And due to their jewish Hatred of Christ, and christians in general…They refused to ever sign with an “X”.

                    Lines became backed up, others complained etc so to speed it up and get job done, US Customs imigration officers told the jews to just use an “O” instead of an X and be done with it already.

                    So jews signed with an “O”…Which happens to be called in YIDDISH, a “Kikel”…Thats their word to describe the Letter O as a “KIKEL”…hence from that point fwd they began to call jews “KIKES” when refering to their groups.

                    It has ZERO to do with racist or antisemite crap Barn Cat..unfortunatly You, like Many jewish folks are so damn brainwashed, You like They always See evil nazis and jew haters hideing behind every Tree awaiting a chance to Pounce on some poor unsuspecting little jewish “victim”.

                    NEWS FLASH!! Most EVERY orig NAZI and SS storm trooper are now DEAD….Theres NO nazis left barncat.

                    Todays Troubles are NOT nazis, rather its the Bolshevik Kommie soviets we need be concerned of…Thats the True problem barn cat…Kommies! and as Many here have proven and provided You with tons of that proof…It happens that communisim Was a jewish Invention, and Most top kommie leaders, rulers, mass killer squads etc etc also happened to be Jewish.

                    Do You Get it Yet?…

            • All I know is that BO acts African no matter where he was borned. BO is more Kenya than anything else, those are his roots even if he was borned on the Moon.

              • @ BI

                I honestly don’t give a damn where he was born, anymore than I care about the color of his skin. He is a commie asshole that HATES America, just the same as the harpie shrew POS who wants to replace him in 2016

              • BI, He is more Indonesian where he was raised in his early years. According to the Hagmann & Hagmann report December 5th,I think, he was born in Kenya b/c CIA maternal grandad did not want a US birth certificate the CIA could check on. That was totally the last straw for me finding out this treasonous fraud I never believed before. But the evidence is very strong.

              • He was born in Jersey City.

                • He’s also a medical miracle..as being the only recorded pregnancy/birth..resulting from anal sex!!!

                  ..thus, he’s a fecal-species unto himself.

                  • Fecal or Feral, both work.

            • Indy–that ain’t the real truth–but they want you to believe that.
              That’s why that story was put out there.
              Sheriff Joe and Zullo will present the truth this month…hopefully.

              • Jayjay, we’ll have to disagree on this one. If this story wasn’t true, the guy who wrote it wouldn’t be getting harashed by the IRS along with some people who bought the film.

                This is the truth and I’ll tell you one thing…. the media by no means presented this story of was trying to feed it to the public.

                Still got love for you though Jayjay 🙂

            • How could he be an agent when he was in fact a commie himself. read up on the interconnect with Davis, Jarrett, Ayers, Robinson, Axelrod and other players including little Sydneys parents. The story is interesting. The pass on vetting Obama that the media and the Stupid party gave Obama is sickening.

          • Mac… though I think Rich88 is a hatter… we have had one of our folks where I worked slammed by one of Alex’s articles. He still gets yelled at in restaurants. It has all but ruined his life and the whole thing was a lie. Our employee won his suit against Alex. It broke my heart that a person and media outlet I trusted could do this and I have not been able to trust him since. Had he fixed the issue (simply removing the picture) I could have been ok with it but he refused even though our employee worked in the Pacific Northwest and the story was about Texas. I still read some of his articles but I have to take them with a grain of salt due to a firsthand view of some of his practices. I would be great if we could get a copy of the whole 160 page PDF. I think your awesome site and its members could make this happen. I know our government does not have the people’s best interest in mind anymore. I know that they don’t like exmillitary, Christians, conservatives, gun owners, farmers, and the like (of which I am all). I just would some more proof on this one…. I trust your judgment on this.

          • Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo are getting ready for that ‘universe shattering’ news about that fake BC and more.
            Read it was in March; but suppose they want it secret so they can’t be sabotaged like last time they presented the news of the fake BC??

            • If they really had something they would have had an accident or heart attack by now. I will believe it when I see it and it probably is meaningless as the media will bury it. There could be a video of Obama blowing up a busload of nuns and the media would blame it on the Koch brothers.

              • The interviewer on the Hagmann show about the fake BC filed the evidence with federal judges and named the accomplices. They mentioned on the show how the woman involved is now at great risk and sure enough that Fuddy woman ends up dead in that plane crash, the only one to die.

          • Mac, I’m not saying it isn’t true, but coming from Alex Jones, how can we know it’s reliable intel? His batting average isn’t the best, as I’m sure we all know. Suddenly, the parable about the boy who cried wolf comes to mind.

        • In the end all we have to go is is character. If the person who leaked this was willing to ruin his life like Snowden then we must give him some credibility.

          Otherwise it’s a fabrication. Fear porn used to sell advertising.

          • couldn’t possibly be disinformation ???

            • Of course it could be disinformation, but it is ultimately up to US to figure it out. Let no one else tell you what to think, figure it out yourself.

        • Suppose you think Putin is ‘bluffing’ or making things up too?

          Oh…and you can kiss the ‘Petro Dollar’ goodbye.

          Looks like the BRICS countries who were importing and hoarding gold all these past months are going to make it happen. The U.S. is going to be a third world country before you can snap that SNAP card!

          Russia To Create Own National Payment System In “Bid To Reduce Dependence On The West”
          (from ZeroHedge site)

          The more the West attempts to “isolate” Russia and pushes it away from its “core values” and of course the US Dollar, the more Russia will seek the safety of a non-dollar based system. We have previously described how Putin has been scrambling to enmesh Russia in tight bilateral commodity-based trade with both China and India, and now it is Russia’s turn to announce it would seek its own “national payment settlement system” following last week’s surprising and unmandated service halts by both Visa and MasterCard, which as Vladimir Putin said earlier today, will be a “bid to reduce economic dependence on the West.”

          Putin observed, cited by AFP, that Russia is aggressively looking to trim its dependence on the west for payment settlement: “In countries such as Japan and China these systems work, and work very well,” Putin told lawmakers in televised remarks.

          “Initially, they started out solely as national systems limited to their own markets, their own territory, their own population but they are becoming more popular right now… Why should we not do it? We should definitely do it and we will do it,” he said, noting that Russia’s Central Bank and the government have been looking into the matter.

          And as everybody knows, while the biggest trump card over the West Russia has are its energy exports, one can retort that Western leverage over Russia is in the form of SWIFT, or the “Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication”, aka the umbrella framework for all interbank transactions taking place in a petrodollar world. If and when the day comes when Russia and/or China and/or India and/or any other BRICs and other nations who are tired of the hegemony of the fading US superpower, decide to create their own version of Swift, all bets on the reserve currency for the past century are off.

          In the meantime, we will settle with Russia making its own electronic payment settlement system. More from AFP:

          Last week the United States hit more than 20 Russian officials, including some of Putin’s closest allies, with sanctions over Moscow’s takeover of Ukraine’s peninsula of Crimea. A lender described as a “crony bank” for the Russian elites, Bank Rossiya, was also blacklisted.

          As a result of punitive measures, several banks last week saw their customers barred from using Visa (NYSE: V – news) and MasterCard credit cards prompting talk among officials and lawmakers that Russia should create its own operational network.

          “It’s a great shame that some companies have taken a decision on certain restrictions,” Putin said. “I think it will simply lead to a loss of certain segments of the market for them, and a rather profitable market at that.”

          • “It’s a great shame that some companies have taken a decision on certain restrictions,” Putin said. “I think it will simply lead to a loss of certain segments of the market for them, and a rather profitable market at that.”

            In Tennessee country talk, the credit card companies ‘are cutting off their nose to spite their face’.

          • …and our usurped govt brought this on is all by itself. It isn’t the Russians fault, or BRIC’s fault, it’s the fault of our bought-off, NWO-owned “leaders” for going too far to please their corporate masters.

            DEAL WITH IT.

        • DHS has purchased over a billion bullets and hollow point round for “target practice”. No, that does NOT make me feel safe.

          Keep praying and prepping!
          KY Mom

          • And 80,000 troops on the boarder. Only one reason. Putin will soon take more of Ukraine, maybe all of it.
            Ratchet Up. No one in the world is scared of Obummer except those of us that live under his “Hope and Change”
            We won’t have to worry about high food prices if Nukes are launched. I’m beginning to think all you crazy bastards on this site might be right.

            • “Crazy bastards” I’m taking that as a complement. Thank You candle. Your alright.

            • I was crazy when I got here, but I’m all right now! ;0)

              • I’m beginning to think all you crazy bastards on this site might be right….


                I’m taking that as a compliment…


                I was crazy when I got here, but I’m alright now!

                Best… and priceless… 🙂

        • rich.

          Only dudes like you and other sheep would look back the past 6 years and claim that nothing has changed for the worse.

        • Just finished reading the doc yesterday. Alex Jones did not put it out FEMA/DHS did. But your the portrayer of fact and knowledge so tell me who spent all the time typing this disinformation.

          • Be careful Dog, just because the govt put it out, doesn’t mean it isn’t disinformation…

        • If one wants to create doubt and limit belief in order to remove the spot light of the masses giving it to AJ makes sense.

        • rich98, long time no hear from. How you been? I agree about Infowars.

          • Been ok. Commented back to Mac about HIS comment to mine, but he refused to post it.
            Doesn’t like being called out on his BS I guess.

            Hope all is well.

      4. Poon Tang very worried. Government very bad. No trust government.

        • You love me, long time?

          • Sorry,

            Full Metal Jacket flashback.

            • Hey, i like that movie, especially the training barracks scene.
              The DI said words that would make a sailor blush. I heard he was a former DI and wrote half of the dialog…

              • R.E.Lee Ermey. Kubrick hired him to train his actor for the DI role, ended up making him famous, he stole the film, as they say. Was a former DI in Vietnam era.

                • I hope there are a few Drill Instructors that visit this site.

              • Before the days of timeout stress cards in basic. Please sir my pussy hurts can I go in the corner and cry? Made me feel like it was 1965 all over again with someone screaming at you all day.

            • I’m “bored” looking at Bored’s comments. YAWNNNNNNNNN!

        • Poon Tang, welcome to SHTFPlan.com. You’re in the best of company.

        • No worry Poon Tang. Government only gay rights.
          You lickity split. Obama back door man. You in clear.

          • OutWest, I think I’ll take Poon Tang over Bored. His statements about Mac and us gave me a bad first impression of him.

          • Yeah they boom-boom long time GI………if not you dinky dow.

            • I think what she’s tryin’ to say is you black boys pack too much meat! 😉

      5. Actually the exercises themselves have been planned since 2012 (and before). What struck me as the most curious tidbits of all of it was the references to nuclear weapon ‘incidents’ and others involving an aircraft, namely a Boeing 777. Strange how OBlamer just read from the teleprompter the other day about his worries that Manhattan could be ‘nuked’. And we also have the MH370 Boeing 777 flight still…missing.

        You just can’t make this stuff up folks!

        Thursday,March 27th,2014
        7:00a.m. Mountain Daylight Time/9:00a.m.Eastern Daylight Time
        AMALGAM MAKO Event I
        involving a Vessel of Interest that originated in Thailand and is enroute to Vancouver,BC, with a subsequent scheduled port of call in Seattle, WA.
        9:00a.m.Mountain Daylight Time/11:00a.m. Eastern Daylight Time
        North American Aerospace Defense Command Operation Noble Eagle event
        involving a Boeing 777 enroute to Seattle,WA, from Tokyo,JP.

        1:00p.m. Mountain Daylight Time/3:00p.m. Eastern Daylight Time
        North American Aerospace Defense Command Operation Noble Eagle event
        involving an Alaska Airlines aircraft.

        Tuesday,April 1st,2014
        7:00a.m. Mountain Daylight Time/9:00a.m. Eastern Daylight Time
        Traffic accident involving nuclear weapon transport convoy occurs on I-70
        near Grand Junction, CO.
        10:00a.m. Eastern Daylight Time
        Intel leads to Presidential order for activation of Continuity of Government Readiness Conditions-1.

        • Quite frankly when he mentioned a nuclear bomb going off in Manhattan the hair stood up on the back of my neck. What alarmed me was the nonchalant way he said it. Seemed out of context. Tension has been growing. Also weird side note, was flying with a student today and saw a drone for the first time as well. Air traffic control didn’t say a word. Something is way off. It’s going to snap and soon. Could he actually cause a false flag by having Manhattan be the sacrificial lamb to expand his power? Course you have to ask, if the guy let 4 Americans in Libya die would he really care about 10 million? I for one think not. Rocky times ahead people. Pray, form teams, and be ready.

          • I have several friends in NY, NY and I’m sure going to have the G.O.O.D. chat…

          • see you on the other side

            • ….and I’ll light your smoke. make sure you’re wearin’ your thousand milers. We may have to dee-dee.

          • NY can not be nuked, too many liberals!

            • Wherever they nuke, the rest of us will suffer the fallout and the other consequences.

            • “NY can not be nuked, too many liberals!” But see, that’s probably the plan, then they can blame it on “Free Americans Against Socialist Tyranny”.

          • Only Manhattan’s Gentiles will be sacrificed. Das Juden will get the same type of early warning they received before the airplanes hit the WTC.

          • The name of the exercise is a bit curious also…

            Capstone…gee…whatever does that mean…

      6. DSCA – Defense Support for Civil Authorities is not Martial Law. It is an actual directive — at the joint and service levels that outlines the process by which a civil authority can seek support from the Defense Department for non-military response to various events. Martial Law does not have to be implemented for civil authorities to request assistance from the DoD.

      7. Makes ya stop and wonder just how many of the troops are gonna blindly follow unconstitutional orders.
        I guess it really depends on the circumstance .
        Theres just way too much eveidence out there right now that makes it quite clear as to FEMAS intentions.
        So i guess we wait and see .

      8. You really wonder when all of this will unfold into an unstoppable meltdown, eventually into a full-scale collapse. I wonder what the naysayers will think? Will it be something as dumb as ‘why didn’t anybody warn us?’….

        • When they figure out that people were warning them, they will get angry and say, “how we’re we supposed to know? You should have tried harder!”

          • Were.

            Stupid auto correct.

          • Ugly and Bored.

            Why didn’t anybody try to warn us? Plus.
            You should have tried harder!

            Equals. One rifle butt in the face.

            No excuses.

            • +100 green thumbs.

        • I can see that now

      9. TPTB could accomplish the same exercise parameters buy constructing any criminal gang/Islamic terror group. The fact that they construct an anti-socialist/ tyranny organization is clearly designed to desensitize personnel within DHS/FBI/DEA/Local LEO’s, they’re painting and fixing the target in order to make pulling the trigger easier.

        The wedge between the citizens and our so called security has become deep and fractured, I see nothing good coming from any of this as trust only continues to erode.

        • Y99, what trust? Only a fool would trust government. Oh, I forgot, we’re surrounded by fools out here. {sarcasm in overdrive today]

          • brave

            I guess I’m not alone in that I regard LEO’s (all stripes) with the same suspicion I would a gangbanger or a Muslim?

            I find it sad because I’m old enough to remember better times.

            • Y99, I remember better times also. I don’t trust Muslims or gangbangers any further than I can throw them, but there are still some good cops out here. Someday this country will thoroughly clean itself out and will go back to being a better place for all of us.

              • I hope you are right bud,,
                The crap is getting a bit deep!

            • Y99, Here, here! I look at it this way, if confronted I will go toe to toe if they’re not legit. If they’re concerns are unfounded I’ll try to reason with them. If that fails, I’ll do my utmost to make their children father/motherless. As far as I’m concern it matters not. My family is well taken care of as I’ve already have seen to it. As well my wife and two children has already been instructed in what to do. Their outcome resides in their what they do or say. My goal is to take as many out whether they be LEO or otherwise. My eyes will be hard but it will be mixed with a smile on my face.

              • Brave, PO’d, Garage

                I believe in one form or another we’re all on the same sheet, but even good LEO’s abuse the public trust. Many of my former Soldiers became cops and told me stories of things they’d do just because they could get away with it.
                I’ve had incidents were cops have tried to play me and I must admit it’s fun to laugh at them and say NO! My concern is having a run in were one attempts to abuse his power and my Civil Rights, I’m wound a bit tight these days but I also know how to bide my time.

            • Such dislike for LE, if you hear a lot of loud noise in front of your house and then someone starts trying to kick in your door, who you gonna call?—————–Ghost Busters!!!!

            • Back when they did not hand cuff and arrest six year olds for doing dumb things and either simply talked to them or drove them home and told the parents to handle it.

          • Hit the nail on the head braveheart. I see no sarcasm in your post. Its the truth.

        • Y99 and braveheart,

          I agree totally. These days any LEO that would actually follow the Constitution seems to be suspected of something. It is even noticeable in the more popular TV shows now that the writers are scripting things to try to give a sense of “normalcy” to violations of our rights. I’m talking about the Bill of Rights. The characters on the shows seem to see the public as their minions instead of the people they serve.

          Notice that when you ask a public employee who they work for, they almost always reply “the government.” While there is nothing wrong with that reply, the attitude that goes with it usually implies “I’m here to babysit (watch) you.” This horse crap attitude is more prevalent among LEOs of all stripes, or code enforcement types.

          Many of these government employees are either trained or end up with the attitude that they need to run our lives, and cannot understand why on earth any of us would resent the very “help” they are providing.

          So yes, I believe that in most cases we cannot trust TPTB or anyone that works for them.


          • GarageLogicFan, I totally agree about the BS attitude they have toward the public and I still avoid them all I can. But did you know that according to certain federal and state supreme court rulings, LEOs ARE REALLY JUST GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES. THEY HAVE NO OBLIGATIONS TO PROTECT ANY CITIZENS WHATSOEVER. THEY HAVE NO OBLIGATIONS TO THE PUBLIC, PERIOD. THEY SERVE AND RISK THEIR LIVES FOR GOVERNMENT, NOT WE THE PEOPLE. THERE ARE NO SUCH PEOPLE AS PUBLIC SERVANTS. When we, as individuals, find ourselves in a home invasion or whatever other type of life-threatening situation, we are truly on our own and have to handle it ourselves. I handle such situations any way I see necessary in order to stay alive. I DISREGARD ANY AND ALL KINDS OF LEGAL RESTRICTIONS THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT OF SELF-DEFENSE. first things first. Get out of the situation alive first. worry about legalities later. I carry certain self-defense items with me in my truck everywhere I go for at least the past 20 years. Are they legal for me to carry? Probably not, but I don’t care about legality, I care about staying alive. I’m not playing the game someone else’s way. I play the game MY way and that’s one reason I’m still alive. That’s what I do for myself and NOBODY tells me whether I can engage in self-defense or not. I won’t deviate from my path.

            • Your best post ever, Brave!

          • and they REALLY get pissed when you challenge their authority or narrative of events.

        • I still have to make the naïve statement one more time.
          If Rambos on the east coast terrorizing residents that just want to express their God-given rights don’t get it that on the west coast there are Rambos terrorizing their wives, daughters, mothers that just want to express their God-given rights, then the communist government here wins.
          I, for one, don’t believe the National Guard, i.e., are made up of members of that ilk.
          I thing they do ‘get it’.
          This ain’t Viet Nam.
          Just saying.

          • think, not thing..duh

          • JayJay, sometime I think you dwell on it too much. Take a break dear.

            • WoW–take a break Po–no family I see to fear for??

              • Oh, yeah–I’m a Tennessee girl–we do NOT tell girls there what to do..only one time maybe!! 🙂

                • LOL.

      10. listen i cant wait for this revolution aka the economic collapse of America it will b like the movie red dawn but it will b our troops not Asians. we need to quit fighting and stand with each other and fight back and take over America

      11. The government knows the collapse is coming so they’re preparing for it. DHS is going to be Obama’s private army just like the SS was Hitler’s private army. So obviously, they have groups of people that they see as enemies. That would include Christians, Jews, constitutionalists, and gun owners among others. Other groups would include useful idiots (to be killed later) and useless eaters.

        It’s a mistake to think Obama is incompetent. He’s a puppet. He’s doing what the globalists want him to do. He’s pushing Russia, China, and the other BRICS nations to dump the dollar. He wants to destroy America so thoroughly that it will never rise again. And 90% of Americans don’t even see it coming.

        Say what you want but America was a force for a lot of good in the world for the last 100 years. America defeated the Empire of Japan and Nazi Germany. Stalemated the Soviet Union until it collapsed. American nuclear deterrents forced a lot of aggressor nations to stand down so that millions fewer people died in war from 1945 to the present than died in World War I alone.

        Not only that, America has the most Christians in the world. I’m not talking churchgoers but people who’ve accepted Christ as their savior and changed their lives. America sent and supported more foreign missionaries than any other country in the world for decades. That’s another reason America must be destroyed. And because of America’s increasing sin and the murders of 55 million unborn children, God is about to punish America more severely than any other nation in the history of the world has been punished. Israel once lost 2/3 of its population but it never lost 250 million people like America is about to.

        • **DHS is going to be Obama’s private army just like the SS was Hitler’s private army.*8

          At first maybe. But at some point those DHS members that are Americans are going to realize that they are fighting their own families.
          They will NOT be taken to the FEMA camps for protection.
          It’s like being a member of the mafia–they can’t trust the govt.; it IS the mafia.

          • Spot on!

          • Good observation. Never thought of that.

          • Hopefully they are smart enough to realize that while they are terrorizing someones family their own family may be being terrorized by some other DHS imbecile.

      12. Just shows our govenment is comprimised and they are cleaning house on honorable Americans who love their country and want to do what’s right.

        All they want is people who will follow orders without question even if it’s illegal or immoral.

      13. Wouldn’t it be funny if the govt named the entitlement loving drug crazed ignorant liberals as a target for once?
        Oh wait… I do that everyday.

      14. here’s a couple to get yuh laffin’…my wife ALWAYS laughs during sex, no matter WHAT she’s reading. i thought coffee was supposed to be GOOD for sex? my wife had three cups last night, and it kept her awake during the whole thing… excuse me miss, does this handkerchief smell like chloroform?

      15. I think the exercise depicted shows exactly why an attempted socialist takeover or imposition of martial law will not work. “While some Free Americans against Socialist Tyranny members are capable of conducting adverse cyber operations, the greatest threat is current government employees sympathetic to their cause.” Our governments biggest fear is that many of their own employees value freedom as much as we conservatives and libertarians do. Infiltrators are already among the wolves.

        • It is my hope that indeed there are millions of government employees who value freedom and liberty as most of us here do. The government people who dream this crap up best remember who they work for. I would bet there are many of all political backgrounds who will NOT heasitate to push back if their freedom is threatened, just my observation living in a primarily Democrat controlled state.

          • Kula,

            They work for the government. Not the citizens.

            • Not true, at least not in DOD where most still remember their oath when hired and many are former or current active duty. Not sure about other agencies.

          • I’m hoping for a lot of sleepers, just waiting for the right moment. People who haven’t blasted their intentions/opinions on a blog, or in an email or to another govt operative or snitch. People who really know who “opsec” is supposed to deter.

            People who are waiting to see the whites of their eyes…

        • Instant Karma. yummy…

        • The driver of that pickup got at least part of what he deserved. Wouldn’t it really be something if that were Eisen, or NCJoe, or Petersen?

          • LOL!

            You have a good point there Brave!

      16. As of this moment the only “terrorists” or “threats” are government thugs.
        I know your watching these boards you fuckers,
        Keep pushing

        • I have been pushed to my limit. I pray every day that I do not have one of these crazy encounters with any of these government thugs similiar to the ones we read about every single day. I will not be able to go along willingly. Take for example the raid of Ares Arms. I do not have the financial capability to supposedly defend my self in court. If that was my business and I knew in advance that they were gonna raid one of two things would have happened. There would have been nothing there when they arrived, or there would have been a massive physical confrontation. Another example would be my kids, there is NO WAY IN HELL that they would be allowed to take them and me try to prove my innocence in court to get them back. They will simply not touch my children and I will make sure of that by any means neccasary. If my child was in the hospital like the story we read the other day, there is no way I would be fighting for custody in court. I would retrieve my child from that hospital regardless of the cost.

          • outlaw-I am with you. The Pellitiers do not need more lawyers. They need a hostage rescue team to bring their daughter home. I wish Marcus Lutrell would call on some of his Seal buddies for that task.

          • I feel the same Outlaw. I told my wife a long time ago my line has been crossed. Its beyond me what it is going to take to get the sheeple to start really pushing back. I don’t mean bitching on the internet, “writing to my representative”, or “vote the bums out”. I wonder when a real resistance movement will began. I hope they all haven’t been turned into zombified Ocommieits.

            • Maddog

              A resistance movement with coordination
              is almost a pipe dream.

              It isn’t just the mindless sheep that
              won’t get on board, either.

              Some of the worst of the bunch I have
              tried to talk to and no longer do is
              the people flying American flags.

              All I get from them is:

              “I’m a vet”

              “I fought for this country”

              “don’t you love your country”

              “still the greatest country”

              “love it or leave it”

              “are you a commie”

              There is no reasoning with those people.

              • Im of the same mid as you guys, one good thing about any of our movements NOT being coordinated is it is harder to track anything,
                Remember, these are the same people who brought you WMD and the ACA
                Nuff said

              • OW, sadly what you say is true for those who have either given up or lost their sense of direction. I will leave my fate in the hands of the almighty. In the words of Stonewall Jackson, “My religious beliefs teaches me to be safe in battle as in bed”……..Hopefully I’ll be an asset before I close my eyes for the last time and to close in and give them the bayonet.

                • “My religious beliefs teaches me to be safe in battle as in bed”

                  That must be why they prefer to raid people in the middle of the night, while they are asleep. Keep the sheep off-balance.

            • Unfortunately I don’t think the sheeple are ever gonna really start pushing back maddog, at least not until its way too late.
              I do what I can to resist, off the grid and out of the system as much as possible for me at this point, wish I could do more.

              Good point about bein uncoordinated Kula.

              • Me and the dog took a ride today to see what the other farmer are doing in their feilds,, thiis one guy has had a Dont tread on me flag on a two hundred yr old oak, today he had big signs all though his yard. you could almost smell the gun powder.

          • As I’ve said before…..at some point, there will be a Lexington-Concord moment.

            • Could that moment be the upcoming OAS?

      17. Returning vets do not pose a terrorist threat but they pose a threat to a terrorist government! I remember very clearly when Obama leaked to law enforcement that vets were a domestic terrorist threat early in his first year as president and i immediately called DHS and told them i have to turn myself in to which the man on the other end said thank you sir and hung up. I knew then our country was in big danger.

      18. What it boils down to is we as a nation have to change the way we live, in order to change the way we live. The old saying give an inch and someone will take a mile comes to mind. We as a nation have to stop giving inches, and then the Government will stop taking miles. Folks have let this happen over the past 238 years. Now what we have is the exact thing our fore fathers ran from fought against and died for to have and produce a free future. hmmm….

      19. They’re gaming/preparing for every scenario and then some…

        Perhaps we should do the same …lesson learned.


        • “Preparing for EVERY SCENARIO”. A “fool’s game”. Impossible is an understatement.

          Because of this “fact”, THEY will make mistakes that WE can exploit. “WE” meaning those that have prepped to survive. SURVIVAL is predicated on BASICS. And “basics” have never changed.

          Only one question remains. At what point is simple survival an inadequate circumstance. ALL preps must involve “offensive” as well as “defensive” strategy. WE MUST DO MORE THAN SIMPLY SURVIVE!!! WE must ultimately WIN!

          Otherwise, what is the point?

          • Thoughts
            Supply lines?
            Where is their stash?
            Our enemy is organized, stay small, stay local, know everyone on your team, be wary of newcomers, dont do the same thing the same way twice, face to face com or code talk

            The founders sacrificed everything so we could live in a free country,
            Free of tyrants,
            Free of fear of government,
            Would you rather be safe and a slave?
            How safe will you really be if thats the case?

            Just as with everything else in life, we are all replaceable, so make your time count rather than just going Baaaaa baaaaa

          • While we may not be able to prepare for every contingency, we CAN build some VERSATILITY into our preps, so they might be useful in a variety of scenarios.

            We can prepare our bodies and our minds/thinking patterns to adapt on a moments notice.

            We can even think through the most implausible scenarios, with absolutely no outlay of cash or resources.

            For example:

            What would you do RIGHT THIS SECOND, if you looked up from your screen to see a black-masked man going out the door with your child in his arms?

            What would you do if you looked out your kitchen window right now, and saw 4 or 5 unidentified masked men with guns, creeping across your lawn towards your house?

            What would you do if you were with the wife in the beer aisle grabbing a brewski, when a man with a rifle appeared out of nowhere a few yards from you, his rifle swinging in your direction?

            What would you do if you were on your way home on the interstate and an EF5 category tornado touched down less than a mile from you?

            What would you do if your truck blew a radiator hose out in the middle of nowhere? Or busted a fan belt?

            We can’t prepare for everything, but we sure can try to think our way through, even if it never happens.

      20. HA!
        …a mixed bag, quality control experiment in chaos management. With communications gone, People helping their neighbors, communicating and working together as a team will be the norm & much more effective than anything put together a group of pencil pushers- when the SHTF we’ll prove ourselves. The real heros will surface everywhere. Organization by and at the neighborhood level is what’s gonna work.

      21. Off Topic…

        Health-Care Ministries

        “Buried in Section 1501 on page 148 of the so-called Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is an exemption from the individual mandate for a “health care sharing ministry,” a group whose members “share a common set of ethical or religious beliefs and share medical expenses among members in accordance with those beliefs.” For any member of such group, the law says, “No penalty shall be imposed.”

        “Health care ministries have been around since the 1990s, but they have grown by leaps and bounds since Obamacare passed…”

        “The programs are structured in such a way that it’s not just a “give what you want, when you can” situation. There are coverage levels. There are tiers. If you pay so much a month, your annual out-of-pocket expenses will be adjusted accordingly. It looks and feels a lot like insurance, and based on the satisfied testimonials of many who have participated over the years, it operates in a similar, if more personal way.

        Two out of the four health-care ministries eligible for the coverage exemption — Medi-Share and Christian Healthcare Ministries — have A-plus ratings from the Better Business Bureau. And Medi-Share utilizes the MutiPlan PHCS network, the same large physician providers network that many insurance companies use.”


      22. So let me get this straight…

        The neo-cons in the Bush administration used 9/11 to implement their plans for a fascist, tyrannical “big brother” like security state to use jackboot tactics on any and all dissenters… but conservatives are the target?

        Oh yeah, they were pretty hard on that ultra right wing group of Occupy WS protesters weren’t they!

      23. Like everything else that was a “drill”, it will turn into a real world situation.

        • Anon, when are people going to realize that this isn’t a democrat-republican, left-right, liberal-conservative thing—it’s A NWO THING. The NWO knows no allegiances except to themselves and their money/power.

          The NWO corruption spans all borders, all races and all political labels…that’s why they call it a “world order”.

      24. Jeez, this site is full of people who think the government is evil, and you wonder why the authorities regard us with suspicion?

        Don’t take everything so personally, if the government was actually concerned with YOU Joe Sixpack of 123 Fake Street, you’d probably know it by now.

        • Do you like being sheared close? Or a little long?

          • That’s good, Kula

            • Well, WTF
              Just gotta look at whats going on and you can see these bassturds have anything but our best interests at heart,
              When they stand up there on the podium and say, We are going to revert to the basic principals of the constitution, all other laws are scrubbed, political office and judiciary appointments as well as department heads are term positions limited to 2 terms and no ongoing benefits, we are going to freeze hiring and reduce the size and cost of government to be less than 10% of GDP, and a whole bunch of other reasonable changes, then i will get behind the government, as it stands there is nothing other than skepticism that can come from all the stuff that is going on.

        • Stephen, welcome aboard, but be aware the government really is concerned about people like us. They have no legitimate basis for anything they do. We just refuse to give up our God-given rights. You have the same rights. Join us in standing up for this country and taking it back. It’s true that we see nothing good coming out of the actions of government.

        • I tend ti take being dragged out of my bed in the middle of the night for a FEMA camp, VERY personally.

          I tend to take getting a gun pointed at my head, VERY personally.

          I tend to take someone sticking their hands down my pants and up my shirt, VERY personally.

          But at least I don’t take stupid shit from stupid people personally.

        • Stephen = Koolaid drinker

      25. I posted the link to the whole doc.

        1. Comment ID: 2976663
        March 25, 2014 at 2:20 pm
        Very interesting read here:

        • Interesting…..if you try to download the doc, you have to log into facebook.

          Hmmmmmm….I don’t think so.

      26. As former Army Intel who’s had the opportunity to work with DHS, CIA, FBI and other branches of the military, the document doesn’t look legit based on the security classifictio markings, befoue i left the military last year, they standardized classifications throughout the intelligence community. ‘Trusted Agents Only’ seem far too broad, and would have a classification of either Inclassified, secret, or in the case of ‘targetting us personel/citizens’ possibly top secret, with appropriate color coding and font sizes. Say what you want but I’m not convinced of this documents credibility.

        • PJW puts out some iffy stuff just like Hodges,
          But that aside, i dont trust DHS or any of their divisions,
          They are all attitude when dealing with the public, so why should they get anything but attitude in return, Patriot, does not mean right wing extremist nutjob.
          Second amendment or constitutional supporter does not translate to terrorist, homegrown or otherwise,
          The guys who fought in WW1 or WW2 and died and even those who survived and passed naturally are rolling over in their graves right now.

      27. The odds were never in our favor. In one outlying district there is a Sheriff Arapio that questions the authenticy of the Capitols leader to hold the office. The leaders lawyers now admit to the birth certificate forgery but say it cannot be used as evidence, because it is a forgery. The leader doesn’t need bonifides other than his political popularity to run for this office say his lawyers. There will be a reaping alright, let the games begin.

        • ***The leaders lawyers now admit to the birth certificate forgery but say it cannot be used as evidence, because it is a forgery***

          (When you have no argument, bring out the stupid.)

          Okay, everyone file a fake entitlement app. and use a fake SS number–see how fast that judge throws you in jail ‘because it can’t be used as evidence because it is a forgery’.
          Now, that’s a new one!!

          • The laws are only intended for the little people.

            The elites ALWAYS get a pass….or when all else fails, a “get out of jail free” card.

      28. I guess the government knows we will never throw away our phones and internet connections just to stop them from spying on our every communication. They are still busy compiling the lists of dissenters. How much longer will we have to protest freely? We are all patiently waiting for the spark that unites our citizenry.

        • I don’t buy the NSA spying on every entity we use for the reasons they state–I just think it is job creation hub bub. More government jobs–shovel ready.

          • Wait until they move against us JayJay…as that’s when the term “shovel ready”…will garner a whole new meaning!!!

      29. And that’s the way it is! Thursday march 27th.

      30. Why do we have ccw permits for again? Gang members, thugs and drug dealers already CCW without a permit.

      31. A complete bitch on wheels just got asked to leave.

        So…here’s a prep.

        You do NOT job hop.
        You work hard, build a network and become a resource.

        The scum get fire off and my crew now runs the place.

        Any questions?

        If you see her on the street looking for work..ask her how much the “Friday night special is and what it includes.” ha

        A message to all the males out there.
        We’ve all been beaten down.

        Time to reclaim our place in the sun.
        Network with each other and take back what is yours!

        Ah…I remember the 90s.
        “Sexual harrasement” class.
        We called it “Her ASS” class.
        Always taught by some really hot HR lady.
        WE all sat up front and stared at her body.

        boys will be boys.

        • I remember we had a guy at work who was becoming a trans sexual and was wearing women’s clothing. There was a big uproar as to which restroom he would use before the plumbing change.

        • “You do NOT job hop.
          You work hard, build a network and become a resource. blah blah blah…”

          I got news for ya dumbass, this is 2014, not 1970. You go ahead and give your 20-30 years to the company. See what you get for it in the end. Become a resource, because thats all you are gonna be for them, a resource to feed off of.

          Good for you, your “crew” runs the place. I am sure the owner appreciates all your hard work and definately appreciates you running his business for him. Sure wish I could find some employees like you.

          Lookin for a good job? I need a dumbass and “crew” to run my business for me too.

          I will give it to you, good employees are very rare and hard to come by these days.

          I am a little jealous of your boss.

      32. If you all don’t think that people that love freedom and are not kissing the federal government A$$ are not being watched. Well do I have a deal for you all. I’ll sell you a bridge, or lake front property in the desert, or if you send me $1000 dollars I’ll make you $10,000 in one week, ECT. ECT. ECT.
        Stay strong and only left out 1/2 to no truths of what you have or don’t have.BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING AND LISTENING!!!!!
        S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.REB

        • Good one NR
          There was a guy above saying were paranoid and no wonder the government is gaming us.
          1. Im not paranoid, i am wide fucking awake.
          2. I didnt sign up for being told what flavor of anything i can buy,
          3. I am tired of writing a blank check for these idiots who think they know whats going on.
          4. I will never just go along to get along and as long as we are supposedly a constitutional Republic i will ALWAYS question the so called government.

          These jerks are treating patriots like vermin, in another time we would be praised for being patriotic, now, if you are a sheep who swallows everything the government feeds you you are a good amerikan,

          Sorry, i signed up to be a God fearing patriotic pain in the ass so that we can keep our republic.
          I am NOT a communist, socialist, progressive, left, right or whatever,
          Simply I am an American and i love the country I was born into, not this convoluted bullshit they are trying to pass on us.

          • Kulafarmer, AMEN to your comments and I’m right there with you. I didn’t sign up for any of this commie crap either.

          • Kula:
            This old boy is FIGHT’N MAD!!! I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!!
            I do not know how much longer I am going to be able to take much more!!!
            I wrote and call the those vermin in Washington.
            I vote all the time.
            I’ve paid my own way for 40 plus years.
            Come to find out that I will be making $1200 more a year when I retire at 62 with 2 different pensions and S.S.(that I have paid into since I was 13) and savings than some one that never worked one day in their lives

            I don’t care if you are a Republicain or a Democrate I do not trust either one to lead this country any more.
            It’s way pass time for a change and not the type Obamma has in mind.

            WE ARE NO LONGER A FREE NATION. We have the EPA, OSHA, FEMA, DHS, NSA, BATF, Obamma care, telling the American citizen what they can and can’t do.
            What really Pi$$ me off is that they are trampling on the Bible and the Constitution.

            You will not see one of these alphabet organizions in the contitution give any powers to tell us jack sh$#.
            Plus we have Zombie-Mopes bleeding this nation dri with all those goodies that they get, they say they are entitled to, All those those lazy bast@#$% never worked a day in their or their parents lifes to desire it.

            FREE REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!

            I don’t care if I get a lot of red thumbs on this but.
            If you don’t agree with me you better get you head out of you butt and wake up.

            Sorry for the rant, it is what I BELIEVE….

            S.T.S.F.P. N.R N.S. N.REB

            • Kula-

              What you wrote is far removed from the definition of a “rant”.

              You’ve nicely verbalized the doctrine of truth & reality..here in 21st century ‘Blade-Runner Amerika’

              ..mega ^ thumbs to ya!

      33. cameras are everywhere,,, I say its high time they are put in every room of the whitehouse and wired up to channel 10 on our TV’s..with sound

        Never anyplace in OUR Building will they be without monitoring full video, and sound
        I want them in their offices, in congress, every reps office, I want it all recorded and playing live 24-7 to each and every home

        than, if they represent the populace, than they need to be viewed in their private lives too..so set the systems up in each of their homes, if we are to not have any privacy..than neither are they

        They are our gov. we are not their property

      34. I just seen this, looks like when ob gets out of the sheeple Arena the rest arent Impressed..Nuclear Security summit 2014..YouTube video, obama: Well thats embarrassing No one clapped 3/25/14..sorry dont know how to coppy and paste..

      35. Wish I was 95 and all my kids were 75, cause then I’d get out and really kick some ass….

      36. Many people are stupid enough that when the SHTF they will be happy to be stripped of their rights. They will be herded and controlled like sheep led to the slaughter, and all the time believing they are the smart ones. People actually believe because government has so many generous social welfare programs shows they care. How ignorant! The fact is officialdom believes in redistribution, taking from the productive ones gives them power and giving it to the unproductive ones gives them votes. In reality however, government despises us all, and only sees people as to how they can be used to further government control.
        I don’t know why so many people aren’t getting it, well actually I do; we have 2 generations of mostly dumb and apathetic people in this country. For example; at work I see recent college graduates that have little to no critical thinking skills and almost no iniative. They have been trained to only do as told. These same persons believe anything and everything government tells them, and that government knows best. Even when proven otherwise, and or when they are negatively affected. These people think its just best to passively comply.
        I though about it, if I was a dictator, I would want a country full of people just like that. Easy to manipulate, easy to control, believe anything, even shape their morality.
        When the SHTF watch these idiots, they will betray you and think they are going a good thing.

        • Right on Billy,
          I like that, “dumb and apathetic”
          I am pretty sick of all the Dont know, dont care crowd,,,
          One of the only reasons i conside bugging out, i know i can get to a place with enough supplies and such to stash out move in the shadows and last a looong time then just sit back and watch that group of people be like what the, who the, how the??? There is a definite cost to not paying attention and caring about this stuff. Its not if, its when.

      37. Know your blood type:
        O+ can receive (O+ and O-) and can give to (O+,A+,B+,AB+)
        O- can receive (O-) and can give to (all blood types..[universal donor])
        A+ can receive (A+,A-,O+, O-) and can give to (A+,AB+)
        A- can receive (A-,O-) and can give to (A+,A-,AB+,AB-)
        B+ can receive (B+,B-,O+,O-) and can give to (B+,AB+)
        B- can receive (B-,O-) and can give to (B+,B-,AB+,AB-)
        AB+ can receive (all blood types.. universal recipient) and can give to (AB+)
        AB- can receive (AB-,A-,B-,O-) and can give to (AB+,AB-)

        NOMI should we give!

        • RR-

          Thanks..good info!

      38. uh oh, here come amnesty for the 30 million law breaking third world garbage dump people here illegally.

        kiss your children’s future goodbye as they don’t stand a chance getting the only future jobs available, flipping burgers at McDonnas, only knowing english only.

        the powers that be want America to be a nation of minimum wage third world garbage dump slaves.

      39. Did everyone see the utter horsesh$% about that missing airline? They are moving the “search” 700 miles further northeast. “Refining this”. Polished pile of sh$% is more like it. This has only two possibilities about what is going on:

        A. These a’holes are stupidier than one can imagine and are clueless about just about everything. This would be the best for everyone because it shows no conspiracy anything, just a bunch of inept fools running around like ass monkeys looking for the hidden banana.

        B. These a’holes know exactly or closely where the aircraft is hidden and are trying to draw out the terrorists into doing what they are planning to do with the airline. This is all a show for some sinister purpose to hide what really happened. Then blame all the “incorrect” data on Malaysia and this British company.

        Whatever it is, this whole crap is totally unbelievable and making Australia look incredibly bad, sh$% stupid or hiding something terrible. Either case these family members are being tortured, and that royally sucks. I am so sick and tired of this deception and not really know what is actually going on with everything.

      40. Crap!

        I thought this was about Oblama! SOON…very soon.

        Democrat Indicted for Arms Trafficking to Islamist Rebels after Supporting Assault Weapons Ban

        Does this get hypocrite of the year award? Typical.

        The 137-page, FBI-sworn affidavit against California State Sen. Leland Yee, a Democrat who is also running for Secretary of State, and over two dozen other individuals reads like a crime thriller.

        Beyond the widely reported stories of alleged wire fraud, money laundering, corruption, and bribery, the affidavit contains tales of alleged murder-for-hire plots involving a political consultant close to Yee, as well as large international weapons trafficking operations.

        Indeed, while the media have fixated on the hypocrisy of a gun-control advocate–Yee sponsored legislation against detachable magazines, for example–alleged involvement in gun smuggling, few reports delve into the kind of weapons with which Yee was allegedly involved.

        The FBI affidavit describes conversations about shipments of automatic weapons and talk of heavier weapons, including shoulder-fired missiles and artillery.

      41. The Moon is dark enough now until April 4 for ANY country to attack another. Each month I warn about Israel attacking Iran during the 10 day window. Russia is building up for an invasion of Ukraine. If I was Putin and wanted to minimize Russian casualties I would invade Ukraine when the sky was the darkest and use my superior night vision ability. That would be Sunday night when the New Moon occurs. Even 1 or 2 days before or after the New Moon would be plenty dark enough. Something to definitely watch for because Russia is ready, real ready.

        • I thought it was the Israelis who are always planning the o’dark thirty attacks? What about China? It gets dark in China too.

          Damn, BI, is that all you got, more fearmongering?

        • Now your talking. Had to walk down to the barn to turn the light out last night and got scared with the nv’s on. I have seen a few moon shadows in the io/pg where I had to pull the dark visor down on the stroke or blooms in the wake. We countered with a visit to Italy yesterday. I feel better. Time to make the doughnuts and a 100 hr. for af1. Them guys really got it made. I need a drink. Take a bow and see what happens. Squawk & IDENT Okie.

      42. Howdy all,

        Question: Does this really surprise anyone? Anything you do or say anymore will get you on a list somewhere. I’m certain that I’m on a few. A veteran, gun owner, etc.

        I do think we are at the brink now. Yeah, I know, people have been saying that shit for years. It just feels a lot different now, and that’s no joke. I’m keeping my eyes peeled for unusual activities around here. May I suggest we all do that and pass along the info to everyone else?

        I gave up on the neighbors. Can’t convince some people there’s a fire even when they have smoke coming outta their asshole. The hell with them. I don’t even talk to them anymore, just a simple nod on my way to the mailbox.

        I’ve geared up about as much as I can, and awaiting the first shot.

        KySSG . . . out.

        • I can do better than that Ky, I don’t even nod!!:-)

          • Yeah, JayJay, I may stop nodding as well. The more I’m around people, the better I like my dogs.

            KySSG . . . out.

        • Military convoy passed through my sleepy little town on Sunday headed south. Included were some unmarked black GMC SUVs with government plates. Also everyone had openly displayed weapons when they were stopped at the Exxon for gas.

          That was unusual here. We are far enough off the beaten path that our only claim to fame was tomato capital about a hundred years back.

          As for the rest. well, just let it hold off long enough to get my husband through his upcoming open heart surgery.

          • Wsterislife–don’t fret–it is as simple as a root canal and maybe easier.
            Gene said his open heart was simple compared to his carotid surgery.
            Prayers sent your way.

        • KySSG, welcome back and I hope you’ll stick around this time. How have you been?

          • braveheart,

            Been doing okay for the most part, just busy as hell at work. Had three people up and walk out about four weeks ago, so the rest of us have been picking up the slack. Just hired three new ones this past week, so as soon as I train ’em up, things might go back to normal.

            How are things in your neck o’ the woods, my friend?

            KySSG . . . out.

      43. This is propaganda at its best – the clergy in this scenario are just being used as pawns in a spin game. When it comes down to it, what will matter in the end is the will of the people, how much they will take before they see bullshit and react against oppression. There aren’t enough people in blue or military uniforms to stop the populations push back. It would be a grave error on their part to assume they are the masters and in control. An American Spring, anyone… ?

        • There aren’t enough pastors in the mainstream to affect the attitude of the population either.
          JMAO here.
          This nation is saturated with good-hearted, caring Christians that have learned the hard way–going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car!!!!!!

          501C has ruined the church.
          Don’t forget; the ‘church’ has stopped living up to Christ’s calling. So, it is now applied to all those people who are ‘true’ followers of Jesus Christ regardless of the organization they belong to (or not). All over the world, the ‘church’ is made up of the ‘true’ followers of Christ,
          We are the Church. 🙂

          • JayJay: This here Confirms You as Correct! Its also what Barn Cat continues to totally Ignore!

            But there is a true and legitimate Chosen People of God. In fact, the scriptures had it right all along. The answer is found in Galatians 3:29. Read it for yourself:

            “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”

            So, if you belong to Jesus our Lord, you are “Abraham’s seed,” regardless of your physical race. You are overcomers, and Revelation 21:7 promises, “He that overcometh shall inherit all things.”

      44. The document lists the anti-American traitors who want to round you up and kill you. If any of these people live in your neighborhood, you might want to put them on your Christmas card list.

        Here’s the excerpt:


        For more information, please consult only the following points of contact:

        Mr. Chad Payeur
        National Exercise Division Federal Emergency Management Agency
        U.S. Department of Homeland Security
        (202) 786-9553 (office)
        [email protected]

        Ms. Kathy Cavyell
        Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management
        State of Alaska
        (907) 428-7049 (office)
        [email protected]

        Mr. John “Chuck” Telotte
        U.S. Northern Command
        (719) 474-8336 (office)
        [email protected]

        Col. Gerard A. Vavrina
        U.S. Department of Energy
        (202) 287-2304 (office)
        [email protected]

        Mr. Harry Wimbrough
        National Continuity Programs Federal Emergency Management Agency
        U.S. Department of Homeland Security
        (202) 646-2691 (office)
        [email protected]

      45. Ha…. you guys are all waiting for the “SHTF” like you are waiting for Christmas that will never come.

        Yeah, I got sucked into all this prepper shit back in 2009.

        Don’t fall for it.

        Things are fine. Life goes on.
        People are born, they live and need products and services no matter what.
        That’s what keeps the world spinning.

        Don’t think for a minute that the USA is going down.
        When the dollar collapses… we’ll just point our guns at the mideast again and go take the oil. Any questions.
        Or…the reality.. We print paper and give it to the arabs for their REAL oil.

        When that ship sails…we’ll tap on Alaska.
        There are hundreds of high output wells there.
        The strategy is to use the other guys oil first.

        RE: USD… just paper…keep printing..and inflation is just a part of it.

        We pay off the bond holders with deflated dollars.

        So live your life… and enjoy what you have left.

        Prep up a bit and then forget about it.
        You did your thing…you have your shotgun and your pallet of beans.
        Then…go take the kids to the movies and never talk about prepping again.

        Life is just flying buy.

        Life is not that bad.
        I dress like a prince.
        I drive a very nice car to a very nice office.
        The pay keep rolling.
        Debts are getting paid down.
        Better to start up a venture.

        I’m working on a global concept and things are coming together.
        I should have done it earlier, rather than fuck around with this prepping shit.

        I eye ball this site now and then.

        Final thought….

        hmm.. I had $300 extra last weekend.
        Should I buy beans or go to the strip club and enjoy grabing some hot young tail.
        Yeah….the club was far more fun.

        Support the arts. ha.
        Ah…springtime at the ballet!!!



        • NWO.

          Good to see you have prep up and now enjoying life as you wish. We hard noses still have a life. The exchange in ideas here is an education and the skills are passed on to others. This sites gives alternative thoughts and some are on the fringe. What captures me here at SHTF is the good company and the ability to share ideas with likeminded people that others refuse to listen to. If they are aware at all what is happening around them in the world.

          So enjoy spending that extra money and chasing young women. A little envy here. ;0)

        • NWO. Let us know when you head to strip club next and woman takes your wallet and credit card with boyfriend….He who laughs first usually does not laugh last….

          • Yeah, and NWO? Let us know when your dick falls off with that great lifestyle you’re living…

        • Sounds like we have a new troll and he calls himself NWO. If any of the others sound like him, taking back this country may not be so hard after all.

      46. There are many ways on how things will pan out. The majority of us are waiting for something to happen to get everybody moving. Until then you prepare. We will wake up one morning and the stock market has crashed. Other countries do not want the dollar. Oil will be paid in other than the dollar. Prices will rise on food. No more government assistance. Banks runs and riots.
        Once the X-Box generation realize there is no more free ride. The retirement funds have been raided. No jobs. Things will roll. Only a matter of time.

      47. @ sixpack. First of all I DON’T FEAR MONGER. I look for signs to ATTEMPT to forecast potential dangerous situations. I do the same thing with earthquakes, trying to see a trigger point. The past 10 major earthquakes have been accurately forecasted from the precursor earthquake activity. Darkness is the best time to attack an enemy IF you have the advantage of being able to see better in the dark than your opponent. Israel has used this over and over again from the attack on the Iraqi nuclear reactor back in the 1980’s to present day attacks on Syrian and Hezbollah missile shipments. 10 day window each month. Russia is primed and ready, and darkness would minimize Russia fatalities and make the march into Ukraine that much easier. Doesn’t mean Putin is going to take advantage of this during this window, but the advantage IS THERE for the taking.

        This is ONLY a head’s up to a POTENTIAL start of the war. Israel could be the one that attacks this New Moon cycle or Russia, OR both of them. Israel completely shut down their 103 embassies and is STILL on extremely high alert for any aircraft coming into their airspace. WHY? This looks real suspecious to me. As a prepper/survivalist it should be ALWAYS the goal of trying to see something before it happens to get a jump on the masses. War is very frightening, but retracting into a shell like a turtle and pretending it is not going to happen won’t stop it from actually occurring. We all have to deal with SHTF and Mega SHTF, no matter how nightmare like it becomes.

        • Just to illustrate my point about your o’dark thirty attack theory, note that two of the most horrific attacks on American soil, were IN BROAD DAYLIGHT! The Pearl Harbor attack occurred at DAWN, and 9/11 was well into the average work day morning on Sept 11th. If you go look up some other terrible attacks, on ANY country, you will find that nearly ALL OF THE MOST HORRIFIC ATTACKS were executed in BROAD DAYLIGHT….NOT in the night during a lunar eclipse moon.

          Don’t take my word for it—look it up yourself.

      48. This is 3 paragraphs from an article in Front Mag web site about Russian that shows just how dangerous Russia really is. While BO talks about Russia being some regional power and no real threat to the U.S., it should be realized that Russia can end the U.S. in 30 minutes. BO the last U.S. president, that’s a depressing thought isn’t it?


        First, consider Russia’s nuclear arsenal. According to a Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists study published in May 2013, it was estimated that, as of March 2013, Russia had “a military stockpile of approximately 4,500 nuclear warheads, of which roughly 1,800 strategic warheads are deployed on missiles and at bomber bases.” Russia is also “modernizing its nuclear forces, replacing Soviet-era ballistic missiles with fewer improved missiles. In a decade, almost all Soviet-era weapons will be gone, leaving a smaller but still effective force that will be more mobile than what it replaced.”

        While these are only estimates, since Russia is not transparent about how many nuclear weapons it has, the size of Russia’s arsenal and its ambitious modernization program do not connote the image of weakness that Obama wants to paint of Russia as a mere “regional” power. By way of comparison, the United States “has an estimated 4,650 nuclear warheads available for delivery by more than 800 ballistic missiles and aircraft,” according to a Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists study published in January 2014.

        These numbers and Russia’s modernization strategy should be placed in the context of a very disturbing statement made last December by Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Dmitry Rogozin: “We have never diminished the importance of nuclear weapons—the weapon of requital—as the great balancer of chances.” Rogozin has said that Russia was prepared to use nuclear weapons if attacked first even by only conventional weapons.

        • For those that would like to read the whole article about Russia and the Russian countermeasures buildup in Central and South America here is the full article:


          Under the heading of the site is the quote: “Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out”. So you know this is a site this NOT for BO and his cronies.

        • BI-

          I get a lot of my information from the Federation of American Scientists. These folks have been in the business of nuclear news since 1945. A lot of info on the armies and weapons of each country there.
          h ttp://www.fas.org/

          • @ Socrates. I think you are one of the most accurate informative people on this site, I will look at this closely. Thank you.

            • BI (per Socrates)-

              I second your motion!

        • What about those 22 thermonuclear warheads ‘still’ (wink wink) at the bottom of the ocean from that sunk sub? (another wink wink)

      49. Homeland Security.
        Might think they are going to pick on the weakest of the bunch, but they are going to get a surprise when they rise up and start kicking major A@$!!!!
        It has been very, very quiet. I can’t quite figure it out. Only thing I can think is that they are working on the major cities right now. Who knows?

        • Sarg,,I left you a comment below, forgot to tag to sarg.

      50. Bi; Just a quick note, and you may have all ready seen, but on Rense he has some article today that is interesting,one is about the 9+ earthquake in Alaska back in the 60’s,and also the swarm of earthquakes around Mt.Hood and the discovery of a new fault there,makes me wonder if maybe Atka Mt. Hood and Yellowstone volcanoes could all be connected?
        I am with you on the war front and what is about to take place (No fear mongering intended) with the new revelation of the exact same 707 in a hanger in Israel owned by the evil George Soros and Tribe leaves me wondering of another false flag operation by the Mossad like 9/11 directed towards Iran? The IMF and the Banksters are losing their grip, on the world finances and our debt slavery,which is so evident in the world.So Russia along with China and the BRICS are going to establish there own gold backed currency,and remove the US counterfeit reserve petro dollar from the table.And by doing this it will bring China and Russia in to defend Iran. Hence WW111 (Sure hope I am wrong) JMHO
        Thanks for your opinion and hard work on the subjects at hand, that seems to me everyday is another step closer to the Apocalypse and Armageddon!
        Stay Aware and Safe!!


      51. @ Thinker. I don’t understand why sixpack said I was fear mongering. I said that after the Atka area had a mid 5 pointer that Yellowstone would get active, which it did. I did not say there was some imminent eruption or large quake coming to Yelklowstone, just more activity. I think I am very reserved in not over blowing situations. I never say that California is going to have some 10 pointer. I don’t say that nuclear is unsurvivable. I try to get the facts only. The U.S., Russia, Israel, and many other countries use the advantage of darkness to attack someone. The Moon cast a lot of light even when it is a firat or last quarter phase. I don’t know what Putin is going to do, just stating that there is an advantage that he could use, especially this weekend. His choice however I am clueless to.

        I have heard that actually Mt. Lassen and the Long Valley Caldera in the Sierras are more connected to Yellowstone and Alaska than Mt. Hood. Atka and Yellowston arew almost ceretainly connected though and why I watch this area very closely.

        In regard to Soros and the secret society of bankers and others monsters in disguise. I have to admit I just don’t know. What I do know is that humans, if you can call these ghouls this, CANNOT co-exist. It is like a kill the one on top of you so you can get higher up the ladder. It truly reminds me of mafia bosses that want to be the king pin. What a totally sick world we live in. All any of us cvan do is prepare the best we can and try to ride out the “tsunami” coming to us all.

        • Be I; I hope you didn’t think i was referring to you as being a “fear monger” that was not my intention! All i try to do is find the truth where ever it leads
          .I was just saying that so some that may think that is what i was doing? What I don’t understand is why man is so hell bent on destruction,instead of making this a better world for our family!! And why we have so gotten off the path with the evil influence and lust for money and power.
          Oh well it is what it is!! Ill just keep trying? Its my right!

          • Thinker-

            You said:

            –What I don’t understand is why man is so hell bent on destruction,instead of making this a better world for our family!! And why we have so gotten off the path with the evil influence and lust for money and power.–


            ..because normal, intelligent human beings are NOT sociopaths and therefore, lack the mental “frame of reference” of which to quickly identify such.

            (As) for normal folks who’re exposed to frequent sociopathic behavior and its consequences/results…recognition of such becomes an acquired skill-set.


            ..perhaps I’m overstepping my intuition, per my theory..but I have a hunch that SGT. Dale w/ his many years of LE experience on the streets & hence, dealing w/ the scum of humanity (in the trenches) on a regular basis..is familiar w/ such behavior patterns/thinking.

            He is likely a “gold-mine” of information/knowledge per psychopathy & sociopathy in today’s society, at the gutter level.

            ..ping the Sarge, he can probably articulate/define/answer your question, better than anyone else here at “the PLAN.”


            BTW, know that you’re not alone in your frustrations.

            ..lots-o-^ thumbs to ya!

            • Hunter
              I want to thank you for the kind words.
              I’m only human, I will do my best to answer any questions posed to me.
              One thing I would like to say about all my years. “Is that I have dealt with more good people with problems, than with the scum of the earth. I have dealt with them also but there is a lot more good folk than scum.

              • Thanks so much for that little tidbit, Sarge(per good people).

                ..as ofttimes nowadays, the weight of constant negative/bad news & events..tends to distort one’s perception of society!

                ..again, thanks much!

            • Hunter; Thanks for the input and opinion.I think the biggest problem is what we have been told as truths were really nothing more than lies and mind control, perpetuated by “The Tribe” And no one wants to admit to themselves they been duped by such evil! Which leaves most to afraid to make a stand!
              I am not trying to convince any one of such truth but for a start you may want to do some research on the lies? Rense has a couple current articles on the Holocaust lies and also one on a “Controversial Holocaust survivor breaking his silence” right now which is just a few of many if any one would care to read.I would leave a link but takes to long in moderation.This is just some reinforcement of what most of us all ready know as to the cause, but that is what is so frightening about the current war situation.Is that the Khazars have no fear of total inhalation of the planet to get what they want.
              We all must seek the truth, the only way to truly set us free!

              • Thinker-

                Methinks thou art way ahead of the curve!
                Congrats to you!

                ..have you noticed the ‘holohoax’ has damn near replaced Golgotha(the murder of Christ), in our modern day media narrative..and that denial/doubt of the imaginary 6-million deaths of the self-chosen..carries legal punishment/prison sentences in much of the western world?

                ..or that we’re now witnessing 3rd generation holohoax survivor claims for “trauma benefits?”

                ..hard evidence/facts/truth, per who controls the levers of power..is available, to any who possess the eyes to see..the mind to read/understand..& the courage to “THINK FOR THEMSELVES”


                The self-aggrandizing scam artists never sleep, never let up & never admit to their Talmudic approved/sanctioned wickedness, that they perpetuate against the real followers of Christ!

                ..such are the descendants of the pharisees/Cain & Esau!


                The Son of GOD, chased & scourged them from the temple(see money changers/greedy crooks) & identified them as the offspring of Satan!
                They murdered him for being righteous/truthful and brave/fearless in the face of their evil.

                ..and they’ve borne a perpetual/timeless grudge against him and his followers…ever since!

                Hence, gentile-humanity’s global predicament today…circa 2014A.D.

                • Hunter; Thanks for the congrats,but i surely don’t feel we are winning! This Satanic infection has had such along time to work its evil ways into every aspect of our existence and reality that i am totally frustrated in what to do for a remedy,other than to ask for forgiveness in not recognizing it sooner. I have tried to awaken people to this but it just ends in more frustration.Ultimately we can only control ourselves our mind,body and soul.and hopefully become an example for our children to love and follow.
                  I for one will no longer contribute to any part of this Matrix of evil and materialistic rotten that has got us here.
                  May we all find peace in the pathway we chose from here!!

        • It wasn’t the seismology I was referring to BI, that’s a wonderful heads up for all of us. It’s the incessant o’dark thirty attacks you keep going on about. First it was just Israel, now it’s Israel and Russia who MIGHT be planning their supposed attacks during the next no moon.

          It’s worth noting that Russia didn’t move into Giorgia or Ukraine during the darkest part of the month…they just did what they had to do. This monthly fearmongering is growing and growing old for me. We all have better things to do with our time than sit and fret over the stages of the moon.

          Sorry, but somebody had to say it. And I’m not ACCUSING you or ATTACKING you, I’m just saying that this dark of the moon attacks are getting a bit thin around the edges after all this time…take it any way you like.

          • Mostly I find your posts quite useful and insightful…but the o’dark thirty attacks stuff, every month, not so much.

        • “What a totally sick world we live in. All any of us can do is prepare the best we can and try to ride out the “tsunami” coming to us all.” —YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY BI, and not let them divide us with a bunch of bullshit.

      52. Sarg we talked awhile back about me not being able to get my 223 sighted in. after reading a lot about what I could’ve been doing wrong and following your information to cean it after each shot, whitch I can see were it also will let the Barrel cool down (Important) I would like to say, you dont want to be down range of it, as Several deer found out this winter. two at every penny of two hundred yrds, never took another step..Thank you for your advice…

        • PA.
          I’m happy for you. I’m glad you had very good luck with the deer.
          Again I’m glad I could help.

      53. Them Guys, unfortunately Rick Warren has quite a bit of formal training. It makes him even scarier!! Here is what I found as many of us are very concerned about him and his push in the emergent church movement. He is a scary man with his power and friends.

        Warren received a Bachelor of Arts degree from California Baptist University in Riverside, California; a Master of Divinity degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (1979) in Fort Worth, Texas; and a Doctor of Ministry degree from Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, California.

        • CONCERNED: Thats strange info on all his degrees eh…Most all I read of him, and I recall seeing him on some tv interview when his book sold so many copies was that he was admitting his Past Real job trainings were as a pro psycologist. And that was his orig Job. I think he said he worked for a County govnt and an official psycologist for folks the court mandated must get pro counciling etc.

          I distinctly recall what a huge big deal was made of warren never before being trained or schooled in the Preacher buisness.

          Now hes got all those baptist pastor degrees?

          I also note of recent times it seems most every TV preacher and their wives are calling themselves “Dr” whatever name. Ironic all a sudden so many TV pastors and wives has a doctorate degree lately eh.

          I am wondering if they are doing what a Guy in detroit I knew did 20 yrs ago?…IE: he showed me a Real appearing official graduate document that was in a wood picture frame etc mounted on a wall…It stated he was a PHD Doctorate of Divinity, grad of the “(something or other ) Church of chula vista california!”

          I said Yeah sure and how it that possible when I Know You never been to calif?..he started laughing and told me Anybody can recieve a pastor degree, up to a PHD preacher degree by sending Name and other needed infos Plus $25.00 Check/Mony Order to that church of chula vista and in Two weeks Tops your brand New PHD arrives in Your mailbox!

          And its REAL! As far as its really listed as a 501C church org etc and they will swear You achieved a PHD degree…..Well yes he ‘achieved it alright” by sending them $25!!

          Even if warrens many degrees are valid?…It likley makes him More a danger to real honest folk christans to be duped!…Also far as I know/read of, most if not Every school, seminary etc Today has tons of talmudic jewish professors, and some even have Talmudic rabbis teaching men how to be a “minister” or “Pastor”…Well I do not trust Talmudic as prof or teachers of Christianity! Its in Their Vested intrest to teach as much Bogus BS as they can. I base that upon what I have learned from Their own Talmudic book verses etc and their Own personal quoted statments made at various times etc…I bet the Yeshivas and Rabbi schools aint got a single baptist nor protestant Professor or teacher in Their rabbi schools eh!

          Everything he preaches of is New Ager, false, phony as a three dollar bill. Yet Millions soak in his crap spew and Believes in it and him.

          Newswithviews had a couple reg writers of articles that each did massive ongoing many part articles revealing all types of facts on rick warren, his saddle back church, and ties to new age, the UN, Gorbechev, etc..

          Just him being a made member of CFR and UN Ngo status officially, raises Red Flags galore I say.

          Bottom line is we will keep seeing More like him, and way More folks duped by likes of warren et al..And it seems no matter what we tell folks, no matter what proof we show them…They are same as rest of usa sheep citizens.

          Hear zero, See even Less! believe NO truths at all! I guess there aint much else can be done for that bunch eh.

          I Know I cant attend any such churches. I will never be able to remain seated and silent soon as some fat ass pastor spews lies or zionist crap!…I know me very well. I know I would stand up, and say “With All due respect sir…Thats Untruths! or Thats an outright Lie! or thats total Deception!”

          And like at any secular political public meetings. 99% folks there will shout “Who let That nazi hater in”?

          Or “That guys Rayyysssiiis!”….While their smug little hands pat each others backs for job well done calling me such vile names!…Fools all of them.

          Christ warned Us this is going to occure. “They Hated Me and desired to Kill Me….And They are going to do same to YOU for speaking truth!” oh well I sure wont shut up ever!

      54. Russia finally woke up. They may take a security perimeter further west. More of Ukraine, Moldova etc. Kosovo still has 8000 US troops guarding the heroin shipments for Hashim Thaci, the communist leader the US installed in power. May see Russia putting troops or air defenses in Serbia. Turkey may get a civil war of their own. Who are the good guys? No one.


      56. While the subject of the exercise is disturbing, you should be aware that there is nothing sinister or special about the “trusted agents only” marking. Trusted agents are role players and controllers for an exercise who are familiar with both sides of the exercise game play (the group playing the “bad guys” and the group that is being tested). Their purpose is to keep the exercise on track and within the bounds of the activities the exercise is intended to test, and/or provide support to create the conditions that the exercise is meant to recreate. They function in the middle to influence both sides by introducing or creating conditions to satisfy the objectives of the exercise. They are considered trusted agents since they are not supposed to divulge any more than is necessary to keep things on track.


        • I’d love to see some pics, got any?

      58. plastic explosive filler

        a plastic explosive filler can be made with potassium chlorate and petroleum jelly this explosive can be detonated using a commercial #8 blasting cap or military blasting cap.

        material required:

        potassium chlorate from medicine or manufacture of matches

        petroleum jelly (Vaseline)

        piece of round stick (broom handle)

        wide bowl or other container for mixing ingredients


        1. spread potassium chlorate crystals thinly on a hard surface. roll the round stick over crystals to crush into a very fine powder until it looks like face powder or white flour.

        2.Place 9 parts powdered potassium chlorate and 1 part petroleum jelly in a wide bowl or similar container. mix ingredients with hands (knead) until a uniform paste is obtained.

        NOTE: store explosive in waterproof container until ready to use.


        • if Mac approves, i’ll be putting this up on my days off if not, meh, just info


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