This article was originally published by Tyler Durden at ZeroHedge.
Tensions between the US and Iran flared on Thursday when the Iranian Revolutionary Guard shot down an American drone that was said to have flown into Iranian airspace (the US claims the drone flew over international territory). The drone was reportedly flying over the Strait of Hormuz – that critical chokepoint for the global oil trade – not far from where two oil tankers were recently attacked.
“We will defend Iran’s airspace and maritime boundaries with all our might,” Ali Shamkhani, secretary-general for the Supreme National Security Council was quoted as saying by state-run Islamic Students’ News Agency. “It doesn’t matter which country’s aircraft cross our airspace.
IRGC Commander Hossein Salami said shooting down the drone had sent a clear and strong message for the US: Iran’s borders are ‘red lines’ and though Iran doesn’t seek war, Iran is ready for war. The US, meanwhile, denies that the drone crossed into Iran’s airspace, and says it was in international airspace the whole time.
The news sent oil prices surging, with Brent up as much as 3%. President Trump has been briefed on the incident and the White House is “monitoring the situation.” The US military has branded the shooting “an unprovoked attack.”
The shooting follows attacks on six tankers in the region, which Iran has denied responsibility for (including the two from last week). On Wednesday, a news agency operated by Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen said that the rebels had hit a power station in Jazan, Saudi Arabia, with a cruise missile, though these reports weren’t independently verified.
Numerous geopolitical experts warned that Thursday’s incident “significantly raises” the prospects for international conflict.
Particularly after the US dispatched more troops to the region last week, tensions between the US and Iran just won’t subside, with Tehran still furious over US sanctions on oil sales. With Tehran poised to violate its agreements under the JCPOA on enriched uranium stockpiles, many are fearful that a ‘hot war’ between the US and Iran might erupt. If it did, some of Washington’s biggest geopolitical adversaries (Russia and China) could get involved, triggering WWIII.
What, aren’t you going scream false flag Mac?
This is just the evil US provoking the goody 2 shoe revolutionary guard right?
Our humanitarian solution to collateral damage was the R9X.
I don’t necessarily respect the right of Islamists to their very own country, but, if I was was to play Allah’s advocate, I would say that flying those cool model airplanes, into sovereign airspace, is a provocation — particularly as they can be weaponized against wedding receptions.
The US was just testing the Iranian Air Defenses to see what is penetrable. Not much, as this demonstrated. I doubt if much technology was sent into this airspace via drone,knowing it may not return. It was a sacrifice lob of provocation.
However as Fascist as the US has become regarding FAKE WARS, the US Drone could have been dropping Burger King Coupon leaflets for current Big Mac 2 for $6 special, or 15% Saving by switching to Geico Auto Insurance. Prepping the darky masses taste buds for more US corporations to get a foothold into Iran, and conditioning the Islamic peeps for Amerikanzionisting control.
Iran wants the US to initiate military action to get them off the hook with their people and the sanctions that are crippling their economy..
Gut reaction is to say bomb them. However, the smart thing to do is increase the economic pressure – tighten the screw.
Get our useless European “allies” on board or put sanctions on them
I think your right Iran is getting strangled with sanctions the problem is that the orange king shoots from the lip and will probably get us into a war with Iran. Worst case scenario we will not get any European or Asian Allies in this war we wont be able to count on Saudi Arabia. Israel and BIBI Netanyahu’s B.S. is spinning Trump up and playing him for a chump If war breaks out it will be Us against Iran And Russia by proxy this will end very very badly but its not Chumps kids who will be doing the fighting it will be YOUR kids and your friends kids or your neighbors kids. With the WH’s problems mounting ever hear of Wag the Dog? Just saying
Anonymous, I agree with your analysis except for one thing. Trump is not in total control. Bolton and the neocons are pushing all of this. Bolton would fight his own mother if he found a good reason. He never saw a war he DIDN’T like. Bolton wouldn’t want to confront me…..
jakartaman, I agree that the US should hold off on bombing because the economic sanction are really hurting Iran. However, attacking our military is strong provocation! We may not be able to let that slide!
Thank God I’m a Country Boy
+1 Yep!
“Thank God I’m a Country Boy” and a prepper! I fixed it for you.
The Iranians….are so laughable!!!
The democrats are wasting no time to side with Iran and hate America.
Are you eager for war? Have you ever actually been to war ?
what does Democrats siding with Iran and hating America have to do with weather or not John wants a war?
Pay attention to your own username, Johns making a very valid point.
JS, good point, but I see dems and neocons being in the same sewer.
I think your right Iran is getting strangled with sanctions the problem is that the orange king shoots from the lip and will probably get us into a war with Iran. Worst case scenario we will not get any European or Asian Allies in this war we wont be able to count on Saudi Arabia. Israel and BIBI Netanyahu’s B.S. is spinning Trump up and playing him for a chump If war breaks out it will be Us against Iran And Russia by proxy this will end very very badly but its not Chumps kids who will be doing the fighting it will be YOUR kids and your friends kids or your neighbors kids. With the WH’s problems mounting ever hear of Wag the Dog? Just saying
But the point is NOT to fight Russia or China. It’s to fight a prolonged ME quagmire for two reasons:
1. The Pars gas field is right there in the Persian Gulf. It’s the largest gas field in the world and empire wants control of it. Control resources and you control the world.
2. Break some windows and waste some armament. No waste, no new debt. No new debt and empire collapses.
could be the us sacrificed a drone to find out the iranian air defense capabilities
The photos they are using as proof that Iran shot down a drone are file photos from 2017.
from The Sun [a British Empire news]
When revealing Iran had shot down the drone, the country’s state-run IRNA news agency released a picture of an aircraft appearing to spiral towards Earth.
It claimed the image showed a RQ-4 Global Hawk, a US military drone, being blasted out the sky over Iranian territory.
However the same photograph – albeit in a wider crop – had previously appeared in a two-year-old report of a spy drone being shot down over Yemen in 2017.
That report quoted Yemeni military sources as saying it showed an American MQ 9 drone falling to Earth near the country’s capital Sanaa – and included pictures of the crashed drone burning on the ground.
It wasn’t immediately clear whether Iran mistakenly shared the old image or whether it was a deliberate attempt at spreading misinformation.
If they downed a Global Hawk type drone, they got a prized one. They cost about 220 million a piece. Iran has shot down numerous drones since 2011, but none of these. They have a wingspan of 116 feet as compared to a Reaper with 48.4 feet, and a Boeing 737 at 95 feet. They are spy drones that replaced the U2 and operate anywhere from 10-60 thousand feet. Apparently these Hawks only arrived in Qatar 5 days ago.
Broken window.
Russia nor China will not want any parts of being quag’mired in any war involving the US and Iran. Neither one of them have the wear-withall, nor the funds, to be dragged into that.
Actually China is hoping that the USA will become entangles in another ME conflict! Once the USA commits itself to another fray, China will move on Taiwan and the USA won’t have the resources to do anything about it!
On the money! Russia and China would love the US to attack Iran.
For Russia, this will just mean more weapons sales to any regime scared of America. Look at how much money Russia has made from selling weapons to Syria, Venezuela, Cuba etc.
As for China, they will use the opportunity to take the South China Sea, Taiwan and lock down Hong Kong. They will also go after Australia and Canada, while putting all of Europe on Huawei 5G.
Once the dust settles, you will find China is much bigger and more than half the world will be on the China ‘platform’.
American corporations and human traffickers also want war because it means more cheap labour, body parts and sex slaves. War with Iran is win, win, win, win, win.
Question: Suppose that War was going to break out tomorrow win Iran, what 5 last minute items would you run out to get? Do you have a list of last minute items?
During that brief period of calm, you may have time to run to the store and grab SOME/A FEW last minute items before it’s too late.
1. ATM/CASH
2. Fill up Gas Cans
3. Batteries
4. Meds/Over The Counter Also
5. ???
#1. LEAVE THE CITY..
#2. See #1
Beer.
Justice, for what it’s worth, cash, yes, but you should have some already stashed.
Same with gas, already stashed.
Same with batteries.
Meds, don’t know, don’t need any, nor does the wife. Maybe, aspirin, lidocaine patches.
Fresh food, focusing on things that will keep a while, like potatoes, cabbages, onions, garlic, and spices that act like medicine, as in curry powder, cumin, turmeric, sage, paprika, cayenne, all of which will make that long term stored food a bit more palatable.
Ketchupondemand, Of course I have these things on hand to some extent, but nobody has ALL they want/need. For example, I only keep one 5 gallon gas can filled on hand. I have 6 others that are empty. Also, I keep some cash on hand but not a lot.
I just wondered if you guys keep a list of “Last Minute Items”?
Ketchupondemand, surely you don’t have enough Ketchup stored away since it has a limited shelf life? No last minute Ketchup run?
I guess you can always make your own Post-SHTF. I have all the Mustard ingredients so I can make my own, if I need to.
oddly, I did items 1,2, and 4 upon hearing about the tankers last week.
Doing a big “food run” to the grocery store tomorrow, and going a little heavy on the non-perishables. Strange times.
If there was a sudden “My fellow Americans…” newsflash that we started the bombing right now, I would be picking up certain medical supplies, establishing comms with the family/friends, topping off the gas tank, then heading straight home to make sure everything was in order.
Better safe than sorry, and I have vacation saved up 😉
Beer.
Have you looked at there weapons. Old and remanufactured HK 91 and MP 5’s. Tanks are old Russian 1970 and 80’s version, Fighter plans are Old F-14’s Tom Cats, F-5’s and older Russian Migs. They are going up against the news and best equipment in the world.
We might get a punch here and there but they will get there asses hand to them.
I still am caring a grudge for the time them bastards took over the embassy. If we would have had a strong Prez then and not the peanut farm this wouldn’t have happened or would have taking action and kicked their asses then.
Sarge, attacking shipping and destroying our military aircraft in International Air Space ARE acts of war!?!?
Trump is indicating that there will be a US response. Iran is a proxy of Russia and China, consequently, this has the capacity to escalate? It’s my understanding that if WWII was Blitzkrieg, the next one will be over before most people know it started.
Yep, we will rule the skies, and we will hit infrastructure targets from afar. BUT….
The country is too big to hold
The country has the wrong terrain for the standard US warfare doctrine. (tanks hate mountains.)
we will start another insurgency, and one that likely already has assets here thanks to hezbollah, et al.
what we will create is another mideast power vacuum unless we go all in, and I dont think all in is the way to go in this case.
NEC, any strike on Iran should be combined air and naval. Maybe a few select targets hit by special forces but no ground invasion. we don’t have the troops for that.
Sarge, agreed we can hand their asses to them. I also still remember the hostage crisis, the attack on the Marine barracks in Beirut, the other hostages they took and killed, etc. There ought to be a crater where Tehran is sitting.
Sgt Dale
There was no greater miss match than US v Afghanistan. The measure of victory is an Afghanistan government favorable to the US in control of the county. It’s been 17 years and as of yet that is still unobtainable. Of course the US can defeat Irans main force units but the guerrilla force nickel dimes you to death. It’s the same failed strategy in Vietnam, defeat the NVA and you win. The problem was the war was with the National Liberation Front / VC and that was unwindable. Thats not my thoughts but rather the words of USMC General Louis Walt who said, “Soon after I arrived in Vietnam it became obvious to me that I had neither a real understanding of the nature of the war nor any clear idea as to how to win it”. SOURCE “The Dynamics Of Defeat” “The Vietnam War in Hau Nghia Provance” page 90. Is Iran worth your kids life? Maybe your grandkids? If not don’t send anyone else’s.
The last justified war for the US was WWII.
Sgt Dale
“I still am caring a grudge for the time them bastards took over the embassy”
They’re still a bit pissed off for this.
The 1953 Iranian coup d’état (known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup) saw the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953 and the installation of a military government. This coup was orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom and the United States under the name TPAJAX Project. The result of this event was that under the direct orders of Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi, the administration of the country got out of the hands of the parliament to find itself under the supervision of an illegitimate government. The establishment of this power was under major support of its foreign allies until its overthrow in 1979.
And lest we forget, the Globalists paid Saddam to invade Iran. We armed and paid Saddam to attack Iran. The Iranians lost 1 million of their people in that war. I think if I was Iranian, I might just be a little peeved at the Globalists.
Trump thinks a war on Iran will guarantee his re-election. It’s proven that those opposing war are ignored, shut out by corporate media. Think US households are in a jam now trying to survive? Of course both supposed political sides support the protection of their overt thievery and murder, caring nothing about those that they falsely represent. Americans can’t get around without their oil, the noose around their necks.
Butt hurt much — Trump has always called the ME wars stupid
He also does not war any place – He believes peace through strenght – Pay Attention
Butt hurt much — Trump has always called the ME wars stupid
He also does not war any place – He believes peace through strength – Pay Attention
Old aljamo can always be counted on to say something stupid.
Here’s a little surprise for you al – Americans don’t get any oil from Iran. In fact, we have so much that we actually SELL the shit to other countries. Not much of a noose.
Stuart
I watch the oil market and retired from the industry. The facts are are a bit more interesting than the hype. Yes the US exports oil while it simultaneously imports oil ; the US is not self sufficient.
Production 11 million bbls/day
Consumption 20.5 million bbls/day
It’s not revenant who’s oil goes where as it seeks a global market. A deficit here raises its value and price globally.
Relevant not Revenant
Source on oil production and consumption:
EIA US Energy Information Administration
Note:
When claims are made by government and politicians, “The Devil Is In The Details”.
Great points, Sgt. Dale. The peanut farmer just couldn’t commit to Iran’s act-of-war, attacking a U.S. Embassy. The Demonrats in Congress make it difficult for the USA to get off TOP-DEAD-CENTER. Any appropriate punishment of aggressive nations is used to punish the other political party. When will some Americans learn that there are bad actors on the world stage.
The US isn’t going to war with Iran. The Globalists, using the US military, are going to war with Iran. The Globalists have 800 foreign military bases world wide, using the US military as their own. We are siding with Saudi Arabia, the people that attacked us on 9/11. The Saudis has accomplices that are too powerful to mention here.
Him
I see it as the US being Murder Inc and the globalists the mafia commission.
Maybe the wording of USMC Major General 2x CMH recipient is applicable.
I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
Smedley Butler
I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
Smedley Butler
If only more of today’s military personnel would realize that they are being used by the owning elite’s as a publicly subsidized capitalist goon squad.
Smedley Butler
The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.
Smedley Butler
There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights.
Smedley Butler
I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long… Looking back on it, I feel I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents.
Smedley Butler
I dunno. If it was in their airspace its Ok to shoot it down. Fly a drone within shotgun range over my property and I will shoot it down. We have a rogue military. Trump wanted to withdraw from Syria and reduce our presence in the ME. Has that happened. Even firing Mattis hasn’t reduced our involvement in the middle east. Apparently the military wants a war?
If the aircraft was in their airspace they should be able to produce the wreckage now shouldn’t they.
Stuart, It appears the Iranians have recovered the debris in their own waters. If it was shot down in international waters, then why didn’t the Globalists produce the wreckage?
Iran: War ‘Unavoidable’ if U.S. Does Not Lift Sanctions
A senior adviser to the Iranian government said on Friday that war is “inevitable” if the United States does not lift sanctions against Iran.
h ttps://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/06/17/iran-war-unavoidable-u-s-does-not-lift-sanctions/
This may REALLY be the start of it. I’m not panicking, but I’m going to the Bank and Gas Station. Can’t hurt?!?!
nothing wrong with prudent preparedness. at worst, you will have some leftover gas and cash in hand to use next month.
Amen NEC_Wrangler. I am back already with plenty of cash and at my Intermediate Gas Prep Level.
I am really glad to hear that you “did items 1,2, and 4 upon hearing about the tankers last week” and you’re doing a big food run. Sometime I think we at SHTFplan get desensitized to current events and may hesitate to take prudent steps when warranted.
Justice, to answer your question on the Vortex flash hider, yes you had it right. Stay Safe!
Thanks Seminole Wind, it’s in the shopping cart ready for me to pull the trigger, as it were.
Are you guys kidding, I could fill up my Hemi today and it would be on empty day after tomorrow and never leave town. Guess I could just park it and use it for a storage tank and ride my 4 wheeler. Trekker Out
Much like the oil embargo by US on Japan forced them to attack us at Pearl Harbor, the current sanctions on Iran willl lead to military action.When faced with economic ruin and being deposed by an angry populace what do most rulers do: WAR It is the mullah only real option, provoke an attack start a war and get the increasingly cowardly American public up in arms. They hopefully last long enough for Trump to be voted out and come to terms with whatever spineless faggot the Dims elect. Just once in my life I would like to see the US fight a total war. Attack us and we hit you with EVeRY conventional weapon in our arsenal until you are dead. Hasn’t happened on a LONG time Will not happen this time either
Hezbollah=Iranian Terrorist group. They are very strong in all places VENEZUELA ! , very close to us. How many have slipped across the border speaking Spanish and pretending to be from Central America?
There are 80 million people in Iran, the Government is armed to the teeth and they have been preparing for war with the U.S. for a very long time.
Generator and portable air conditioner.
Heirloom seeds.
With shelves in a closet, shed, partitioned off area you can:
Create your own walk-in refrigerator to extend the life of your fresh food and stored food such as beans in plastic food-grade buckets, potatoes, fresh vegetables from your garden.
Salt for life. More people die from too little salt than too much salt.
Propane and propane stove.
Canning jars, lids, ascorbic acid.
Something to attach to the water draining off your roof and a barrel.
You can live without food for weeks if you have plenty of water. Most of what you get from food is water.
Fasting is the secret to health. It is difficult the first two days. But after that your hunger subsides. Drink plenty of water (2 gallons per day) and remain as stress free as possible. Do not attempt rigorous activity. Rest. Take short walks.
When you end the fast your stomach will be shrunk. You should juice green vegetables for a few days, drink broth, and have organic tea.
Then eat squash which has alot of water and mushrooms. Continue with fish and vegtables. Then poultry and vegetables. Then meat and vegtables.
Add raw organic nuts and seeds.
Continue this diet for as long as you can. You will be at your natural weight and healthy.
If you like grains be sure to eat organic ancient grains in limited amounts.
Whole fruit such as blueberries are a healthy addition to salad.
Never drink coke or high-fructose sugary juice drinks. They are what make you fat and sick.
Fructose is a poison. It is toxic to the liver and is alcohol without the high. Safe in whole fruit because of the fiber in fruit.
Your brain and cells require glucose. That is completely different than fructose.
If you drink Gatorade, Mountain Dew,
Coka Cola, and high-fructose juice, you will not die right away but continue to drink it and you get liver disease and type2 diabetes.
Drink water.
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Yeah and after your fast and you start with the veggie juice and broth you’ll be able to shit green through the eye of a needle at 40 paces.
Repr, you reminded me of something I left out. When you don’t eat, fast, you become constipated. So drink a medicinal tea such as “smooth ease” every night before bed. You can prepare for the fast by eating just vegtables for two days prior to not eating anything.
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Raspberry is a fruit and a medicine. Add raspberries to your salad.
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I’ve been a pro at both gaining and losing weight.
To lose:
1. Motivation. Have a wife or girlfriend and if frisky both leave you simultaneously and be fat and unable to get laid.
2. Cut calories to 1000 day and eat almost all lean protein with some green vegetables.
3. Weight training is a must to prevent your body robbing your muscle mass for fuel.
4. Walk, stairclimber, elliptical or other at least 45 min day
You’ll lost 10 lbs / month and gain significant muscle mass with a likely waist reduction of 1″ per 10 lb loss.
To gain weight:
1. Get attractive girlfriend (do not recommend wife). Get very comfortable, quit gym, eat.
Unlike Iraq under Saddam, expect an asymmetrical war with Iran. Remember Russia lost to a bunch of guys with bolt action rifles and Stinger Missiles in Afghanistan and the Viet Cong did just fine using old U.S. gear captured from the French and Chinese SKS’s .
Iran has been killing Americans for awhile by supplying snipers and IED’s in Iraq. They have studied us and know our weaknesses. Expect an uptick in terror attacks here on U.S. soil and in Europe. They might even be able to take down some of our power grid too if they have infiltrated Hezbollah cells into Canada and the U.S.
Seminole Wind, I love that song. But try to be a little more critical of what you see on TV and in the press. Remember, the bad guys run the media.
Why is no one sitting up and screaming at those in charge to stop this disaster before it starts? This is all rigged, why? I have no idea but it’s not rational
hate the muslims they need to be eradicated like a bug infestation on a global scale. people say oh they arent all radical bullshit they wont try that shit where they are outnumbered by christians and jews but as soon as their the majority they will be pushing sharia law on everyone.
We are in the same position as we were during “The Bay of Pigs” incident. We are on the verge of nuclear war.
There are all kinds of problems festering with Russia. They are seriously being threatened by us; and if we go after Iran, it will tip the apple cart.
Europe and America can expect 95% loss of the population, primarily the white races. Russia will also be devastated. Russia is white and primarily Christian.
Donald Trump is a figurehead. The military acts without his leadership. There is a leadership in place but it is not answering to the American people. Nor do they give one bit of care what calamity befalls us. In fact, as absurd as it is, these maniacs would love to see the white race killed off. And, they really do want the few survivors to be a hated minority. This is the NWO/GLOBALIST agenda for enslavement.
We must resist any temptation to go to war with Iran, and offset the delicate balance between ourselves and other Countries.
just my opinion, maybe it would be a good thing if the white race was enialated.
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anniahlated
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From a race perspective, the Iranians are Aryans. That means they are smart. The Chinese are the highest IQ people. The Russians are Rus or Nordic in origin.
Most people in US cities are black or Latino, as are most US grunt forces. Who is going to suffer the most in a conflict? Questions, Questions …
IRGC Commander Hose Me Salami will arm wrestle Joe Biden for a 12 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer.