Illegal Immigration And Gangs: Someday Our Cities Will Burn Because We Didn’t Protect Our Borders

by | Jul 23, 2014 | Headline News | 301 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    This article has been generously contributed by Michael Snyder. You can follow his regular writings, research and analysis at The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. Read his recent book The Beginning of the End to get an idea of what America may look like in the very near future.

    Did you know that the number of illegal immigrants that enter Texas each week is greater than the number of babies being born to citizens of that state?  The mainstream media is shining the spotlight very brightly on all of the children that are coming over, and there is a reason for that.  They are trying to tug on our heartstrings.  But there is another part of the story that you aren’t hearing much about.  By refusing to protect our borders, Barack Obama has allowed hundreds of thousands of gang members to illegally enter the United States and settle in our major cities.  In many communities, gang activity is already wildly out of control, and someday our cities will burn because of the foolishness of the federal government.

    The Obama administration knows that one out of every five illegal immigrants has a criminal record.  And we are not just talking about illegal immigrants taking “upskirt photos” of women like just happened in Texas.  We are also talking about rapists, murderers, drug dealers and hardcore gang members.

    According to Texas state Senator Dan Patrick, illegal immigrants have been formally charged with nearly half a million crimes in his state over the past four years alone.  And he also says that there are “at least 100,000 illegal immigrant gang members” living in his state right now…

    Hours before Texas Gov. Rick Perry announced he would send National Guard troops to the border, Texas state Senator Dan Patrick said there are at least 100,000 illegal immigrant gang members in the state.

    On Monday’s The Laura Ingraham Show, Patrick, who is also the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor, said from 2008 to 2012, 143,000 illegal immigrant criminals were arrested and jailed in Texas. He said these were “hardened criminals, gang members, and other criminals that we identified as being in Texas illegally.”

    We charged them with 447,000 crimes, a half-million crimes in four years, just in Texas, including over 5,000 rapes and 2,000 murders,” Patrick said. “We estimate we have 100,000 gang members here illegally.”

    Why won’t Obama do anything to stop this madness?

    There are at least 70,000 gang members living in Obama’s home city of Chicago.  Other estimates put that number closer to 100,000.  But everyone agrees that it is a number that is growing every day.

    So it shouldn’t surprise any of us that at least 40 people were shot in Chicago over one recent July weekend.

    I just fear for what Chicago will look like when things get really bad in this country.  Many of our major cities are literally being transformed into tinderboxes that could erupt in flames at any time.

    Overall, there are now approximately 1.4 million gang members living in the United States according to the FBI.  But that number is actually a few years old now, so the true number is undoubtedly far higher at this point.

    In addition, we know that illegal immigrants make up approximately 30 percent of the total population in our federal, state and local prisons.

    And yet we refuse to stop more waves of illegal immigrants from coming in.

    Are we willingly committing national suicide?

    Just the other day, I noted that Honduras has the highest murder rate on the entire planet and that the Mexican drug war has claimed more than 120,000 lives since 2006.

    That is what is coming here if we allow this insanity to continue.

    Unfortunately, political correctness reigns in America today.  Under current policies, our border agents are not even turning away minors with known gang affiliations that have gang tattoos all over them.  Just check out the following excerpt from a recent National Review article

    Border Patrol officials struggling to keep up with the increasing number of minors illegally crossing the Mexican border are not turning away persons with known gang affiliations. Chris Cabrera, vice president of the National Border Patrol Council Local 3307 in the Rio Grande Valley, explained that a Border Patrol agent he represents helped reunite a teenage gang member with his family in the United States. Cabrera notes the young member of Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), a transnational criminal gang, had no criminal record in the U.S., but asks, “If he’s a confirmed gang member in his own country, why are we letting him in here?”

    “I’ve heard people come in and say, ‘You’re going to let me go, just like you let my mother go, just like you let my sister go. You’re going to let me go as well, and the government’s going to take care of us,’” Cabrera says. “Until we start mandatory detentions, mandatory removals, I don’t think anything is going to change. As a matter of fact, I think it’s going to get worse.”

    Art Del Cueto, president of the National Border Patrol Council Local 2544 in Tucson, says agents who recognize the gang-affiliated tattoos of minors crossing the border must treat them the same as anybody else. He says these people are afforded the same rights provided to anyone crossing the border.

    And according to the Border Patrol, some of these “processing centers” that we have seen pictures of lately are actually being used by the gangsto recruit more gang members

    According to Border Patrol sources, violent MS-13 gang members are using the Nogales processing center in Arizona as a recruitment hub and as a transfer point for gang members to get into the United States.

    The Red Cross has set up phone banks inside the processing center so unaccompanied minors can make phone calls to family members inside the United States and back home in Central America. According to sources, those phones are also being used by MS-13 members to communicate with gang members already in the United States and operating in cities like Atlanta, New York and Chicago. Further, many teenaged males inside the facility have approached Border Patrol agents and have said gang members have tried to recruit them from shared cells. According to the FBI, MS-13 regularly targets middle and high school students for recruitment.

    “The National Border Patrol Council believes there to be serious security issues at the Nogales Processing Center. Agents’ hands are tied due to the policies governing the care and lodging of juveniles and this has allowed gang recruitment and activity to flourish amongst those being detained,” vice president of the National Border Patrol Council Shawn Moran tellsTownhall. “Customs and Border Protection needs to do more to ensure that gang members that are in custody at the NPC are identified, prosecuted, and prohibited from benefiting from this crisis.”

    Barack Obama can see all of this happening and yet he refuses to secure our borders.

    What in the world is he thinking?


    Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years. Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.


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      1. “What in the world is he thinking “.

        No one but himself.

        • “What in the world is he thinking “.

          When is my next tee time?

          • No, Obama is the installed button-pusher of a plan that has long been in play for the globalists … they had to destroy America to finish their goals. And every time they play their game, they just give more truth to the fact that God exists and give more credence to the Bible prophecies. We are watching the future unfold that was foretold in the past…what a ride!

            • I think obama knows that whatever bad guys he intended to covertly get into the country has done so, now they’ll start cracking down on the innocent pawns that were used to shield them…He can’t pull of the next false flag without them being here.

              I think all of it, the border, Ukraine, Israel, Russia, MH17, the plague and ebola, all of it was a massive diversion. Between the bunch, they got virtually EVERYBODY’S attention. No one was watching the hen house.

              I think we’re in trouble.

              • And according to our highest attorney in the United States (Eric Holder), the greatest threat the US are domestic extremists…aka preppers. Thats funny.

            • @PWYPreach – Oh that is good, go from the Obama Leader Hoax to the Religion Hoax as an alternative savior. Here’s a Reality check, They are both a Hoax of Hope and Change! You need to look at today’s reality, and keep your eyes wide open. Look out your window, that is reality.

            • ISIS in Iraq/Syria are the dry run real live exercise in erasing borders by flooding a sovereign state with illegals, hostile plebian invasion. Done incrementally for years. then it hits critical mass and the situation goes hot. That is what’s going on here. The initial Rothschild invasion of Palestine over decades is the premiere prototype. One day the natives wake up and BAM! Its a fait accompli.
              Ayn Rand, Philip Rothschild’s mistress explained much of what is now occurring in Atlas Shrugged, the NWO road map for Illuminati insiders.
              John Todd also warned near 50 yrs ago how violent prisoners and cultivated hoodlums and murderers would be turned loose on a defenceless America.
              Dave Hodges reports on this with his latest on the UN controlling our southern border.

          • “””Why won’t Obama do anything to stop this madness?”””

            The US is a corporation, not a land mass of sovereign states, therefore it recognizes no borders.

            Ultimately, it is up to the People to stop the insurrection from Israel to DC, and from Central America to the rest of the country via the DC criminal cartels.

            Asking why Obama will not do anything about this mess is like asking why a criminal who robs a bank will not return the money.

            He will not stop it because it is his goal to remove the dividing lines of the United States of America from the rest of the globalists world.

            If someone is in this country illegally, they are trespassers. As such, the American people should be able to kill them without repercussion.

            The dead illegals would be nothing more than casualties of an undeclared war.

            • God’s Creation;
              Your not only right; your ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. And WTF gave you a thumbs down? A TRAITOROUS TROLL; I BET.

              • I don’t shoot animals but target practice with very high powered weapons in the midwest. I love animals dogs etc and love nature but not a tree hugger etc. I tell you this, cops who burst into my home without a reason are going to be killed, any illegals breaking into my home I will shoot dead without hesitation at all. I’m sick of these lawless bastards and our government letting it happen. I treat people how they treat me, if you nice to me I cant get mad at you, but when I see government do this is just gets my blood going but not raged. If I have someone ever trying to break into my house I will tourture them literally if they are bad people. I think if the right circumstances happen and enough violence or a collapse happens, people you need to make sure you take out threats to your community. Some of these people are not bad people but they are breaking the fricken law and they are rewarded for it. Stupid fucking police come after people that are middleclass and if you argue with them you get resisting arrest etc. I hope you change your habits too. I dont think people will give a rats ass about you if something happens as well to you and they could save you. Barry your going to have people after your ass too for causing this in a collapse. I can’t believe nothing has happened yet.

                • Amen Clint,,,
                  I resemble these statements,,,

                  • When berrys term is up you can bet he will be out of this country, his work will be done..

                  • RED ALERT- The UN is on the Mexican Border Calling the Shots of where the Illegals are going to be placed in What US City here in the US. Folks this is the UN’s “Foot in the Door” for the UN then to follow these Illegals as they label them as Refugees, to each City in the US toensure their safety. THis is a BIG FAT- “TROJAN HORSE” Invasion. Then watch as the the “Gun Confiscation” begins. Go to YouTube Type this title in to see what is going on.
                    ALERT! Border Patrol Agents Expose UN Control of US Border!

                • I want to know what you think I was just thinking Both repub and Democrat both have their parties. But it seems that Obama is doing nothing against al-quida (isis) and republicans are always for the jews and the jews made Hamas correct? The republicans want to destroy al-quida and the democrats want to stop hamas. Do I have that right? don’t mean to turn the subject. Just was thinking all these politial sides have their private little group of terrorists overseas. sorry for spelling. Go fuck barry by the way.

                  • clint and kulafarmer, braveheart agrees.

                  • Do it with a barbed wire wrapped broomstick… I’m sure Broomstick Barry has had worse.

            • Illegals don’t speak much English and they sure don’t read this site. However, the DHS Cyber Squad does and they measure the sentiment of the public and report it back to the Director.

              Americans need to FLOOD every Blog, every comment section on every website; and it needs to go VIRAL everyday. Take to the streets! Raise your voice in Protest! Make the demonstrations of the Vietnam war look like a cakewalk!!!


              These assholes need to understand that Americans are going to hold them accountable for their actions. Remember Daffy Kaddaffi? It can happen here, Mr President.

              Kill the FED. Death to the New World Order!!! 🙂

              • Howdy, DK, and I agree. DHS is totally useless and needs to be abolished. All of this is by design. some of our cities have burned in the past WITHOUT illegal immigration. I can still remember the civil rights riots of the 60s. I got caught up in a riot in Memphis on the day MLK was shot, but that’s another story for another time.

                • Obummer sending Pentagon advisors to Ukraine, already sent military advisors over there, already got NATO involved over there… as tensions rise. Just yesterday, in emergency meeting, Putin told his staff that they will not allow NATO buildup on their borders, and they plan Russian build up of military infrastructure in Crimea… (mabe not exact words but you get the picture… see RT news).

                  On 21 August, when sun goes into Virgo, things will heat up again (US versus Russia). US just can’t stop its aggression. Like a dog with large teeth, it can’t refrain from using them when opportunity arises.

                  • Annon, You mean Obama sent a more convincing pack of liars/ advisers to Ukraine.

                  • That dog better get a step ladder if he intends to take on a bear. Putin can only avoid OUR AGGRESSION for so long before he has no choice.

                    I have no idea how to stop oblunder from pushing us into this war, but I sure as hell hope our military has better sense.

                    Not only should we NOT fight this war, WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO FIGHT THIS WAR. We do not have any moral ground here…none. This is the most in-you-face globalist play I’ve ever seen, yet so many idiots just don’t see it for what it is.

                    …and the truth is out there on the table. Sheeple just refuse to look at it. I am so thoroughly disgusted.

                    I hope this video is true.

                    ht tps://

                    It may be our only hope.

                • I remember those riots too, and the Mexican Americans were not part of those.

                  Now, add in the illegals (not Mexican Americans) and boy if this isn’t a witch’s brew, I don’t know what is.

                  I believe the in-fighting will be way worse than the 60s and moderate middle class citizens are going to be thrown right smack dab into the middle of it.

                  Think about the fact the the majority of each race isn’t so much into the other, all are fighting for remaining scarce resources.

                  Now you’ll have the illegals fighting with the American citizens of all races (already are in some cities) and then there WILL be battle lines drawn among Americans themselves as well, and it’ll be all out chaos.

                  I’m a moderate myself, middle-of-the-road kinda person, but in this instance, I do believe eventually we are going to see cities burn, and it’ll be worse than the 60s just by sheer numbers alone.

                  • Only JESUS can save us now. Satan is running the show

                    THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE

                    READ SCRIPTURE…………

                    MAY ALMIGHTY GOD HELP US.AMEN

              • Yeah. The 20 people who post here have a voice and their comments are passed on to higher ups. There are often thousands of comments on several sites. I think we rate low.

                • Well I hope the NSA gets a laugh at my jokes…

                  • Yes we do. Keep them coming! (BTW, remove the toilet paper from your shoe.” 😉

                  • Eppe: luv luv luv all your jokes.
                    I’m trying to remember the one
                    about “somebodies doing the dishes”-
                    not a clean one, but would love to
                    hear your version.

                  • I am always looking for great Christmas items for my wife and 2 teenage daughters. I just got the four of us a multi light flashlights (bright, medium, and strobe) with a 8.5 million volt taser on the end. Came with pepper spray seperately for free. Cost only 30 bucks each. Now I am the coolest dad in thier eyes (which is HARD to do nowdays). Not promoting the company, but if it will save one of our lives, it is well worth it, in these days of craziness. Look up ‘Hughes Security’, I think yall will like them, I did.
                    I got hit with one in the early 80’s, went to a bar with my twin from another mother, the twin knew the bouncer who had a new ‘toy’ called a taser. My twin (after a few drinks) said to him that it would not take him down, and said “Hit me with it”. So my twin went down, convulsing, drooling for about 15 seconds. A few hours later, my twin borrowed the taser, snuck up behind me while I was playing pool and tazed my butt. I woke up on the floor, shaking and drooling, with about 30 people laughing thier arses off. Needless to say, that ended out friendship…
                    Point is, these things work, and gives you enough time to get away….

              • Article I, Section 10

                No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress………engage in War, UNLESS actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

              • Right. Like Obama will be scared and change all his plans.

                • O’Bummer will push the envelop as long as the American people do not push back. Push is coming to shove and if WE do not voice OUR anger and unwillingness to accept HIS MARXIST, THIRD WORLD VISION for OUR future, he will unilaterally give amnesty to every Illegal after the elections, and AGAIN before he leaves office. that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

                  Engage. Death the the North American Union. Death to the New World Order!!! 🙂

                • O’bummer scared? Yes, Every politician is afraid of an enraged and engaged electorate. If the PTB didn’t fear the American People they would not be creating a domestic army to enslave US. Would they?

                  Get a fucking brain, BC! 🙂

                  • Oh, eppe, I “outed” myself by not changing my moniker back. Rats! 🙂

              • Obama: No concrete evidence needed to classify us as terrorists. (at RT news). People are being held back from coming back to the US because of being on the blacklist. One military vet and one person who is against the NDAA bill, can’t come back. Once you’re on the list, you can never get off. Almost 1 million Americans on the list.

                Who would have thought that electing Obummer would mean having a dictator and our Constitution destroyed?

                • I DID.

                  • +1

                • I DID

              • You’re right, Durango– this is all part of their secret plans… They say all the right words before elected, but once in office, their only allegience is to the elites, and the elites want to bring about the NWO… TEAR DOWN THE BORDERS AND HAVE A CENTRALIZED GOVERNMENT (ELITES) CONTROLLING EVERYTHING. Well, this ain’t their world; its God’s!

                “the plans of mice and men aft gang astray but the deeds of men live after.” (from a poem).

              • Good,
                Heres a big middle finger salute to you government dicks!

                • I thought that was a spider with a top hat on…

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                  ……….”…\………. _.·´
                  courtesy of http://www.ascii-middle-finger (dot) com

              • I wondered why you would use the pseudonym DK but I watched an old Black and white western this morning and guess what the good guys handle was? yeah, Durango kid, LOL

            • They are all the same. Blame Obama but he is only a small part of the immigration (legal and illegal) problem. Business wants cheap labor and libs want votes. Obama won’t do his part. The house won’t do their part and the senate doesn’t control the money.
              No politicial group or person will take this on.
              Obama asks for money and the house finds fault with his plan. Obama blames the house and the house blames Obama. No one does anything and no one pisses off the incoming voters and business.

            • Collateral damage in the US Citizens war on infiltrating terrorists. They are Illegal trespassing Terrorists, not refugees. Lets all get thay strait here and now.

              • The correct spelling is straight, a strait is a body of water, but nobody can expect some idiot hillbilly conspiracy nutbag to know that now could they?

            • “Star Chamber”

            • @Gods Creation,
              I was just going to post to Michael Snyder…..”Are you seriously still asking WHY?”

              But you said it so much better.

            • These illegals will one day cause their own ethenic cleansing. The day will come when the USA will purge its self of turd worlders.

          • “What in the world is he thinking “.

            That Norwegian Ammbasador was hot, come to think of it Bergdahl’s mother is too. I wonder why white women are so much hotter than black ones?


            • They’re all the same with a bag over their head…

              • …or over YOUR head.

                • or standing on there head ,by cracky

        • soon americans will find out what fools and idiots they have been and just what slavery is, and it will be rightly deserved, you americans have sold each other out with lies, deceit, greed, violence, filth, perversion of all kinds, from the very top of the leadership down to the poor and everything in between, now your masters will destroy most of you and there is nothing you can do about it, except make horseshit statements about how you will fight, you are not going to fight, if there was going to be a fight it would have happened long ago, it will not surprise me at all to see 85 % of this country dead before this is over, and now you can only make more horseshit statements like, everyone has to die, just remember to say that as you are dying, americans have been the biggest fools and idiots on the planet. the chicken have come home to roost, its in your face now, enjoy what you have left, fools

          • nATIVE aMEREICANS DIDN’T win because they didn’t have the gunpower to compete with wicked white men… we do… lots of guns. If anyone, any people can put an end to he horrible PTB, it is us American citizens, and we better all stick together in order to win this fight and stop bickering among the races. Who knows, perhaps I was Indian and you were white in our last incarnation!

            • The native americans where actually better armed than the US Army. at the battle of littlebig horn the soldiers has single shot carbines with inferior ammo purchased from the low bidder. the Indians had the lever action henry rifles.What defeated the natives was they where starved into submission. the buffalo was decimated. kit carson helped the army by cutting all of the pinion pines, = no pinion nuts to make pemmican. In the war was with Germonio the army killed all the horses. the apachie ate horses. Germonio who was a great fighter and won every battle. He surrendered because the children where starving. It wasnt the lack of weapons that led to the natives demise. It was the lack of food and the overwhelming number of invaders who came wanting the land. Sound Familiar? Most American citizens will gladly go to be imprisioned in a FEMA camp when they start getting hungry. The promise of food & shelter will be the bait that does the roundup.

              • Not only starvation. Not only massive # of invaders….. Do not forget about the impact of the different diseases the white man brought to the Native Americans… Hmmmm sounds kinda familiar to current border crisis. Actually “Hostile foreign invasion” would be more accurate. This is a very scary situation. I worry about the legacy that is going to be left for my children and grandchildren. I may be a 5′ 4″ Nana but I will do whatever is necessary to protect my babies as well as the other families in my like minded community. I grew up very old fashioned and maintained as many of those skills as possible. Fema and Mr. Obomination as well Moochy can kiss my Kentucky ass.

        • Relax

          These “immigrants” are just committing crimes that Americans won’t do..

 Massachusetts,the atty general stated equivocally the following..

          ‘It’s not illegal to be illegal in Massachusetts..”

          Enjoy the day


          • Imagine……

            In the early to mid 70’s; the president and many other politicians, with the help of the FBI and their 281 pages of documents of his activities, worked diligently to “deport” one John Lennon for his efforts to end the war and bring about peace.

            In the 20-teens; the president, nor any politicians, will do anything to stop illegals from coming into this country, to disrupt the peace.

            Imagine….it’s easy if you try…

            • The drug cartels have their ways of buying off politicians. The politicians then ensure America’s borders are like a sieve. The American government’s lawless behavior is simply payment to its drug cartel sugar daddies, and globalist buddies.

        • Gee, does anyone REALLY think he would close the barn door? Really?? We are basically on our own….

          • Where’s Mr.Ed when I need him…

            • Wilber, why don’t you riiiiide me anymore???

        • What you are witnessing is by design. Obama was trained by a communist from the time he was a child. He is a disciple of the weather underground, who’s goal is to destroy the United States as we know it. Look at his past and you can predict the future. The best predictor of future humn behavior is to look at past behavior. The United States is in serious trouble, I am afraid for her and my posterity. Most people don’t have a clue what is coming.You are witnessing the collapse of the greatest country the world has ever known.

      2. Enemies,.. Foreign or Domestic. There is NO Gray Area.

        • This is all part of the Big FEMA Camp roundup of containment by pushing all the masses with in the City Limits. You see it is hard for TPTB to contain the Lone Ranger SheepDogs out there. Never Give up!! Never Surrender your Guns!! Fight with your rifle in your hands, till your ammo runs out, then with fixed bayonets, let them come and take it Beotches!! Make em work for it!!

          • I thought bayonets were obsolete.

            • Some would tell you so, but every army in the world still issues bayonets to fit rifles with bayonet lugs, and trains personnel in their use.






              • I wouldn’t strap a flame thrower on for anything. Has anybody ever seen a movie where the guy with the flame thrower doesn’t get burned up? Put it on and your odds of living hit the lows of a moble home dweller in tornado alley.


                • i wouldnt want to be the guy with the flame thrower straped to his back ,and i definetly wouldnt want to be the guy in the movie’s with the flame thrower ,he always gets blown up

              • Flame throwers are well for decontamination, land mines on the border are even better. Imagine a five mile zone filled with land mines, and the airspace patrolled by preditor drones. 🙂

            • Yeah Obama thought they were. Wait till they see a battery of bayonets and pitchforks coming. Their look an expressions on their faces= priceless!!

          • WWTI, AMEN to your comments.

            • 238 years of being our Country. I do NOT want to be known as the generation that lost our republic for future generations.

          • Interestingly, some time ago …I mentioned a job posting within go army site where they were seeking relocation/re-education specialists….I thought at that time that it could pertain to US….but, maybe that job was for what is happening now….with more to follow?

      3. This is an excellent article and is filled w/ one of the biggest reasons to get out of the cities as soon as possible. All the grid connected systems are dangerous to survival. The large population is too dangerous for survival. But more importantly is the shift of the population w/ illegals and violent offenders.
        The numbers of violent criminals are too high for decent city dwellers to expect a “normal” life now.
        It gets no plainer than this.

        • Or a TRUE weapon of mass destruction will completely take a large urban area and/or an entire region. Few people address that illegal immigration means not only gangs, but mega killing devices easily getting into the U.S. The country is already teetering on the economic brink, a massive weapon detonated or released WOULD be the tipping point, not to discount all the people that would die and suffer. Smaller gang type attacks are recoverable, a super weapon such as a true dirty bomb with plutonium powder, hundreds of pounds of weaponized anthrax released, a thermonuclear bomb or two or three…. lit up, etc., etc. is NOT recoverable.

          It is pathetic that more attention with these so called leaders are not talking about the security of this REAL threat to the survival of the country, their country that they swore to protect.

          • @BI…I don’t know what our country is going to look like next year…

            • Perhaps like a giant flea market?

              • Barack Obama as commander in chief has become
                the worst slum lord creator in presidential
                history. Rack and ruin will define his legacy.

              • Mclovin: I. Think the us cities are going to look more like refugee camps. Russia and China are laughing their butter off rihgt now at our stupidity.

                • They’re probably saying : “Better you than us”.

            • A mix of Tijuana and Detroit.

              • Now that’s just Damned horrifying!

            • Me either, however if the progression continues in the same direction there’s a real good chance we will not be able to communicate via the internet. Maybe the sheeple can pass notes in the FEMA camps. Personally I will die fighting long before any chance of entering a FEMA camp. People may want to check out “REX84” in regards to the “illegal children” that are now crossing the border for a possible explanation.

          • I’d bet a thousand dollar bill that there was something brought in during that 50. Cal firing event. And barak just smiles…
            Standing ready in Daytona

            • America as well as the World is just one big Stage – Chess Board Game for the elites to play their Tit for Tat War games on, to see how much pain and horror their armies can inflict on the mass populations. And the Prostitute Puppet Paws in the Militaries carrying out these Unconstitutional Orders are also Rats and Traitors. How about the Malaysian Plane shot down and the 300 dead people used as propaganda Props to Frame Russia. And as this unfolds, its coming back to bite the UKraine – US Administrations. WTF devils do we have here running this criminal activity??

              • The way I understood it, the globalist elites are playing us like a REAL game of RISK. Earth is their game board and our resources and armies are their game pieces.

                Rolling the dice might explain what’s going on in the world, because none of it makes any sense. No logic, no tactical sense, nothing.

          • Well, BI, I honestly believe that this is what the Deep State would like you to believe. The boogieman is coming over the border or in an airplane or in a shipping container.

            The REAL threat to your life and liberty is already in place. It is the corporate state and it’s uniformed enforcers. You have more to fear from them than from some refugee.

            I suppose it goes back to what you believe about 9/11 or Iraqi WMDs or Moamar’s “Arab Spring” or Somalia’s warlords…get my drift?

            I know you hate Muslims will all your heart, but they are not your “boogieman”.

            The dual citizen DC corporation and the banking cartel that fund it are your REAL enemies.

            • @ JRS. Tell that to all the innocent Christians that have had their heads sawed off and the total lack of condemnation from the muslim world about this. Tell that to all the INFIDELS that arabs murder because they don’t believe in the koran. Tell that to the innocent people in pakistan, afghanistan, sudan, and many others in which people are stoned to death and buried up to their necks for disvowing islam. Tell that to all those “brave” muslims that try to stop some woman from being raped because the law in that country permits it.

              It doesn’t have to be islam either that brings in a weapon of mass destruction through the totally porous Mexico border. There are plenty of other terrorist organizations that want to hit the U.S. I imagine some of them are Russia or Chinese in orgin. “Ain’t” no Boogieman that a weapon of mass destruction can cross into this country, it is real and there is plenty of blame to go around for this.


                  Those “terrorist” groups are BEING PAID by someone. They THINK they are fulfilling their destiny, but they are not. They are stupid, racist pawns doing the globalists bidding, for as long as they’re useful.

                  It’s working perfectly.

              • Are they comin’ to saw YOUR head off?

                Are they gonna stone YOU to death?

                Really, it’s called a sovereign country and it’s up to THOSE people to change it.

                It’s none of the business of people that don’t live there and you should stop buying into the Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, et al zionist claptrap on FOX Entertainment.

                • Ask someone in Michigan, where a huge number of muslims reside, just how these muslims gang up on those that are not muslim. Ask people in France or other european countries just what a nightmare it is to live with these towel heads. I don’t have to watch any network to see firsthand just how brutal these islamic psychos are, and this is to their own people. Women are routinely beaten, child are treated like sub-humans, and animals are tortured for pleasure. Granted that this is hardly universal, but it is way too commonplace to ignore as isolated.

                  The koran and the demonic teachings of this devil’s book is what drives this insanity. There is however a type of clanish behavior that when one muslim beheads someone, to either say this is my brother or sister that did this so I will look the other way. IF there was muslim outcry for these barbaric acts all around the world, then I would say that maybe the belief has some good points to it. There is usually nothing but the “roar” of silence that tells all.

                  • “Join up” then dude if it is such a scar on your soul. You, too, can rid the world of those who think differently than you.

                  • We need to put a bounty on them.

                  • The Jewish extremist coup in Russia in 1917 became the GREATEST SOCIAL CATASTROPHE IN HISTORY.

                    Lenin had declared that the entire social class had to be destroyed.

                    “He who controls our history also holds our future in his hands”, to quote the author George Orwell. For this reason it is still very difficult to obtain TRUE facts about COMMUNISM. It is also the reason there has never been a ‘Nuremberg 2’ to punish the crimes of the Communists.

                    During such a trial it would quickly become apparent who really organized the mass murder of Russians and members of other races in the name of the Soviet Communist Party. Such an investigation would cause the worst imaginable backlash against the zionist racists.

                    The advocates of justice in Sweden have been remarkbly quiet about the awful crimes of the soviet regime. It would be quite justifiable to call the soviet regime a spiritual Chernobyl, a terrible social catastrophe.

                    Ever wonder why the mass media takes every opportunity to condition us to the “fascist terror”(Nazis) of the Stalin Regime, of Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping, Poi Pot, and others? THEY DO NOT WANT THESE CRIMES TO BE LABLED COMMUNIST TERROR.

                    Communism, Socialism, National Socialism, Facism, and CAPITALISM are in fact all symptoms of one disease which is best named Illuminism. FOR THE NAME OF THE BEAST IS ILLUMINATI.


                    Want to know the end game for America?

                    Read the free PDF ‘Under the Sign of the Scorpion’.

                  • Granny, here’s some links that might be interesting, for everyone else too.

                    Why the Kuala Lumpur Tribunal’s genocide verdict against Israel sets a key precedent

                    ht tp://

                    It might also explain why ‘somebody’ is attacking Malaysian airliners

                    Bush Convicted of War Crimes in Absentia

                    ht tp://

                    Just google “Kuala Lumpur War Crimes”

                • I don’t like them either BI, BUT, JRS may have a point to the extent of perhaps the Muslims both here and abroad have themselves been duped into being who, and what they are.

                  Leaders like Hitler had the Jews to use, Obama has us white slave owners and just about every leader in history has a boogey man to use as a foil to direct the masses attention on while in the background, for your protection, liberties are taken away from the people.

                  So although my gut instinct says “get them Muslims” in the back of my mind I am suspicious. But at my age I am suspicious of anything and everything. Been burned once to often.


                  • The NWO is using EVERYONE ON THE PLANET against EVERYONE ELSE ON THE PLANET, for their own ends.

                    We’re all equally guilty of mass stupidity.

                    It may really be THAT SIMPLE.

              • Who needs terrorists, when our own Government commits false flag atrocities.

            • JRS, I couldn’t agree move furiously.

          • Short topic HiJack here: Interstate 90 west of Continental Divide BN.SF Railway moving heavy armor West,maybe toward Idaho. Sorry no camera.

            18ea M1 type Tanks
            4ea M1 type Tank Retrievers
            14ea Armored Personnel Carriers
            18ea Armored Fighting Vehicle (ID unk)
            6ea Tactical Fuel Truck

            Back to our regular topic TKS

            • Volumes of the same heavy armor, Montana Mike, traveling through the four corners (Cortez)the past year.

            • They don’t sound too sneaky.

            • Daily flights of heavy lift aircraft flying out of western NV for several weeks now.

          • BI … That incident with the white flags on the Brooklyn Bridge yesterday should be a wake up call for everyone in this country. It certainly got my attention, even though I’ve been “awake” for quite a while now.

            That bridge has 24/7/365 surveillance, yet a small group or two small groups of people managed to scale both towers, change the flags and get away without being caught. So what chance would even a moderately sized city have against a single person or a small group armed with either a nuke or a dirty bomb?

            ISIS, Iran, al-CIAda and various other extremest groups have declared their intent to strike the US again. With this kind of effective, on site surveillance, combines with that secure (according to Obozo, Reid and Pelosi) southern border, surveillance capability that we taxpayers have paid billions for, they are sure to succeed again. It’s only a matter of time.

            Oh, and the person that was supposed to be looking at the monitors that guard the bridge should be fired.

        • Absolutely!

          • RT NEWS:

            NATO forces have been increasing military presence in Eastern European countries bordering Russia and sending warships to the Baltic and Mediterranean due to the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis. NATO has also stated that it will endorse new funding for Ukraine’s defense, blaming Russia for destabilizing the situation in Ukraine.

            “We shall provide an adequate and well-measured response to NATO’s expansion towards Russia’s borders, and we shall take note of [the West] setting up a global missile defense architecture and building up its arsenals of precision-guided weapons,” Putin said on Tuesday.

            “No matter what our Western counterparts tell us, we can see what’s going on. As it stands, NATO is blatantly building up its forces in Eastern Europe, including the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea areas. Its operational and combat training activities are gaining in scale.”

            Putin stated that NATO’s military build-up near Russia’s border is not just for defense, but is an “offensive weapon” and an “element of the US offensive system deployed outside the mainland.”

            • …and these stupid asshats keep saying RUSSIA is the aggressor…and sheeple believe it.

              • it’s the muslims, no,no,no it’s isis. no,no,no it’s the mexicans……or russians?!? Will you buy it’s the Russians?

                Our problems are within. Misdirect all they want, the truth is getting too large to hide any more.

        • Don’t be deceived, they are not just settling in large cities. The Central Valley of CA is infested with Nortenos, Surenos, Latin Kings and MS-13. The slaughterhouses in the Midwest are hiring immigrant workers who may be gang bangers. TN, OR, MN and WI are festering with gangs.

          Thinking you are safe in a small town or rural area is naive!

          The US Armed forces has a gang problem (even on the carriers)! A Norteno thug, like many gangbangers, served in the Marines, got out and headed to Stockton CA. He was reported by shopkeepers as acting strange. Two officers pull up in a patrol car, the Norteno pulls an AK-47 out and kills one officer, wounds another before killing himself. ALot of gang members go into the military to learn how to accurately shoot a rifle or shotgun. They occasionally steal military hardware (when they are not breaking into CHP cruisers and stealing AR-15s).

          • SOS also = “Shoot On Sight”

      4. And just think that this is all being down on purpose to ratchet up the tyranny. ”

        Never let a good crisis go to waste”
        Rahm Emmanuel

        • Initiate impeachment proceedings against Obama. Even, and especially at this late stage. Regardless of success, just the mere show appearance of initiating formal charges of impeachment will show the faithful patriots that there is still some moral and political backbone and courage in this country that will stand up and stand firm against the tyrannical, criminal liberals hijacking the USA and her Constitution and faithful citizens.

          Do both: Prep and resist.

          • The citizens of this country might impeach, but our congress never will. They won’t touch the subject with a 10 foot pole. Not going to happen to the first black president. Period.

            • Just having some politicians file impeachment charges would be Huge. Huge. If even that fails to materialize, then folks are more than justified in not trusting in the government and future of this country.

              Back in the day, it used to be God, country, family,….

              Now it’ll be God, family, and forget the country. It’s lost. Lacks even the moral spine to file impeachment charges against a criminally lawless President.

              • We are past that point. It’s basically, to hell with the Country. How can I get reelected and stay in power?

                • “It’s basically, to hell with the Country. How can I get reelected and stay in power?”

                  Such elected politicians must be voted out or impeached. If not, then it’s justifiably: “Reap what you sow.”

                  If the people are cowardly and spineless against lawless hypocrites (typically liberals and their enabler RINO’s), then they are complicit in their own demise. No whining.

            • Gonetoolong, it’s not going to happen to the man with all of that NSA surveillance data in his pocket, and CIA muscle outside his door — NO MATTER WHAT COLOR HIS SKIN IS.

        • Rodster:

          Look up David Axelrod, Obama’s campaign manager and once chief advisor.

          The White House has been hijacked by commies.

      5. Brooklyn already waved a white flag on the bridge yesterday surrendering to the foreign invaders.

      6. SOMETIMES WE SHOULD NOT TAKE LIFE SO SERIOUSLY, we will never get out alive….

        • Law enforcement is really gonna be busy here real soon and for quite a while
          they aint gonna have time for you, so you better dam well be able to take care of your own protection

          • VRF

            We all have a general idea as to what is happening. Most of it is speculation. It will only become real when we open up the gun safe’s and put on the gear and that is when, “anything goes”.

            This future war appears to be in three parts.

            First. We will have to fight the illegal’s.
            Second. We will fight those who failed to prepare. Hunger.
            Third. Those who want a New World Order.

            • This invasion is nothing new. They’ve been pouring across that border for years. This is all part of the “North American Union” plans

              • It’s all part of the Undocumented Democrat Amnesty program, simple as that.

                They know if they deport them, they will lose votes and support, and their bid for amnesty is dead. So they play with fire to keep their money coming in to the party.

            • The illegals and the unprepared are both well-planned and executed distractions, intended to keep us busy and exhaust our ammo and resources.

              Perhaps we need to step around the daisies as much as possible, and save the best for the Judas tree.

      7. No, I think Dave Hodges has this one. Some of the gangs coming in will work with the government and be the terrorist army that they want. They’ll kill the people that the government wants to get rid of. Like Cliven Bundy. They will act like the Shining Path in Peru. They will terrorize and murder rural landowners and force people into the cities where the globalists want them. They could also carry out assassinations of Obama’s more vocal opponents.

        • Don’t leave out Venezuela.

          • Everyone they’ve worked so hard to make us think is the enemy, probably isn’t…but hey, they’re the govt and they’re here to “help”…

        • You mean Barry Soetero wants to assemble his own Khmer Rouge?

      8. Here is another reason to get that extra box of ammo, because when they come, they will come in droves.

        • Somebody said alien, she thought they said illegal alien and signed up!

          • +1 for the Aliens quote.

        • I am curious not average and I ask this with all due respect, how many are in a drove? lol Sorry man, I couldn’t resist.


          • More than a bunch, less than a horde.

          • Too many to take out with one mag…

      9. If you haven’t already done so everyone should go to youtube and watch how to butcher various animals.

        Rabbits provide the highest meat to feed ratio but their meat provides incomplete nutrition.

        • Yep, not enough fat on bunnies, Sure are good eating and easy to raise.


      10. Read the book “Quest for Adventure” by Chris Bonington. It details how people survived at the poles, in the desert, on top of Everest, at sea…it’s an awesome book.

      11. Just because a certain root is not poisonous doesn’t mean that its corresponding fruit is not poisonous. In fact, most poisonous plants concentrate their poison in the fruit during summertime because that’s when predators want to eat the plants. You should know the flora of your area.

        • JUST REMEMBER, if birds eat plants, berries tnen it’s safe

        • Know the signs of a poisonous plant.

          Some plants that are poisonous look, smell and taste completely edible, but others provide signs that they aren’t to be eaten by humans. Avoiding plants with these qualities might cause you to miss out on a plant that’s actually edible, but it’s much better to play it safe. Stay away from plants with the following characteristics:[1]

          Milky sap.
          An almond scent.
          Seeds, beans or bulbs inside pods.
          Thorns, spines or hairs.
          A bitter taste.
          Grain heads with pink or black spurs.
          Groups of three leaves.

          ht tp://

      12. Walmart and Martin’s are now selling organic foods. They now manufacture organic cookies and potato chips. The more sheeple we can convince to buy organic, the lower the organic food prices will become.

        • Haw! The rates of food poisoning from “organic” vegetables and especially eggs sold in supermarkets are double the rates for “non-organic”.

          Not in my preps, thank you very much. Only organic foods I will eat come from my own garden.

          • You’re full of shit. Show me the study that corroborates that shit. You stupid old bastard. I hope you die of diabetes.

        • A doctor told me there is more organic food being sold than there is grown. I wouldn’t trust Wally world for organic anything, just sayin…

          • MacDonalds has been buying Chinese expired beef. Anthything to make a buck an puff up profits.

          • I avoid wallyworld all I can.

      13. @VRF: I am with you 110 percent. I am looking for concealed weapon. Would appreciate input from you guys/gals.

        • @Southside:

          I highly recommend .40 caliber and the Glock 22 or 23. The 23 has a comported barrel (two slits atop the barrel) which allows for the pressure to be released thereby reducing the recoil to zip. I’ve concealed carry this firearm for years and its the best, I feel. Its 23 ounces and carries a 13 round clip (plus one in the chamber). Go to your local gun store and check it out. You will be glad you did.

          • Bullshit. The .357 Sig is the way to go. Plus you should not be carrying a chambered round.

        • @Southside- Before you buy, go to a large gun shop or gun show and see all the varieties and how you would carry it. A big 45-cal 1911 will be heavy and hard to hide in your waistband. There are compact, and sub compact guns. In this case maybe go with a 9MM since you can carry more rounds, then say a .40 or. 45 Cal. I found that either a Glock 26 that you can use with extended Mags, and carry an additional 30 round mags, if you need to lay down some suppression to get out of the area, or a Beretta Nano Pocket Pistol, or Beretta PX4 Sub Compact that you can use a 20 round Mag and mag sleeve on grip to get a full handle grip on the weapon. Where else can you find 21 rounds in a subcompact 9MM carry gun than a PX4? Remember if you carry in the waist-line belt area, get a good military velcro belt to keep the gun in place. But first go check out the inventory in a gun shop where you can handle the gun and see how it feels. Don’t carry any Caliber less than 9mm. A .380 and smaller is a pee shooter. You need knockdown power 9mm+P hollow points is a good carry ammo. There are many opinions on this, but consider the choices what will work best for you. Also I went through a bunch of holsters till I found Kydex, that is light weight, molds to the gun, blocks sweat, and is easy to draw out of. Hope this helps you.

          • Bullshit. The 1911 is slimline and easy to put in your waistband as long as you’re not a fat bastard. I carry it all the time and the sheeple never notice. Or just get a messenger bag like young people that will let you carry a big gun.

          • i’m a 5’4′ 150# female and I carry a .45 1911 4″ barrel outside the waistband. you just have to consider your clothes.
            sometimes I carry my .380 ruger LCP if I’m wearing more fitting clothing.

        • I use a S&W .500 magnum with a 3 inch barrel, +1 inch compansator for bear. For Trash, I use a 38 snub nose (summer)or a 44 magnum (winter). I like wheel guns for the reliability and the fact that there is always one ready to go down the pipe without having to jack a round in or release the safety which is great for a 400lb grizzly chewing on your leg… you might panic fumbling around with safety.

          • No one here is going to shit down their leg. Brave drunk could take a gun apart and reassemble it. Then he could blow him away. All before a average person could shoot from low ready. Just ask brave drunk.

            • Move on, NLT.

              • Fick off slingshot.

            • NLT, what have I allegedly done to earn your criticism? In other words, what the f#$% is your problem?

          • Bullshit. The modern auto is more reliable than the modern revolver. Plus a revolver has more moving parts than an automatic. Many years ago it was true that revolvers were more reliable but times change, old man. That’s why the piggies all moved to Glocks.

            • never had a revolver jam.

            • Spot On Acid. Unless you are committing a murder or assassination and only need to use a few rounds or don’t want to leave any bullet cartridge evidence laying around, sure uses a revolver. But in self defense or laying down heavy suppression 15 or more rounds is worthy and use a Semi-Auto all the way. I told a guy once who was fond of his 6 shooter, that I would be putting 14 more rounds into him before he could get his 6 round speed loader in position. The look on his face = Priceless!!

        • Get a permit, and look hard at a good revolver. Never jam, simple to operate, generally cost less than a semi-auto, and work reliably with any ammo at all times.

          S&W, and Ruger, are two very good makers, also less costly than Colt. A 3″ or 4″ barrel is fine, no longer than 5″ for concealed carry. I don’t like anything less than a 3″ barrel, myself, but sometimes carry a 2″ snubbie. I’m partial to the S&W Chiefs’ Special Model 36 in .38 Special, for daily carry around town.

          Don’t get hung up on caliber. .38 Special, .357 Magnum, or .44 Special are all good revolver calibers and quite adequate for self-defense. You can shoot .38 Special in a .357 Magnum, or .44 Special in a .44 Magnum, but not the opposite, so a Magnum revolver may be something to look at, just to give you a wider choice set.

          Even if you take weeks to find a good handgun and buy it, go and get the permit now. The more permittees out there, the less the politicians can mess with us. Don’t carry without a permit, if required in your state, it’s a serious felony.

          If you want a semi-auto, lots of good ones out there. The Colt 1911 is still my favorite, but not so good for concealed carry. The Officer’s Model is great. Some inexpensive ones are the FEG P9R, a Hungarian 9mm clone of a Browning Hi-Power, or the Makarov clones. Again, don’t get hung up on caliber, the 9mm, .40, .45acp, are all good defense rounds.

          Avoid the .45GAP, and the 10mm. Good cartridges, but they are not popular and you don’t want to be stuck looking for ammo.

          • Bullshit. During the ammo shortage I could always get .357 Sig and 10mm while 9s and .45s and .40s were impossible to get hold of.


            What happens if you live in a shall issue state? Is one supposed to not carry? Stick your permits up your fucking ass, old man. What the fuck is this vaginal shit? Are the pollies gonna send their kids to schools without armed guards? Is the blackie gonna disarm his security detail? Bullshit.

          • Smokey, I used to have a S&W Model 36 I bought in the late 70s and kept for 20 years. I fired thousands of rounds through that little gun and never had any problem with it. I’ve got a Ruger LCP .380 for a pistol now, but I am looking for something heavier. I just might go back to a Model 36 if I can find one and probably just sell my semiauto pistols. Bought a Charter Arms .22LR revolver last Christmas for target practice and is a sweet little gun.

          • Smokey – That is old school 30 yrs ago info about revolvers. Some people still think a 5 foot tall Mossin Nagant will defend their home too. With any home defense weapon, you want your weapon shorter in length then the hallway is wide if you need to turn around. People think they can use a full size shotgun in a house. Stupid. Use a pistol grip Mossberg 500 and Let er’ Rip!!

        • yeah , keep it simple- 38 snubnose is ok by me . then add a shotgun.

        • Southside
          My daily carry is a Springfield XDs in .45 (because shooting twice is stupid)with a few spare mags due to the single stack set up
          yes im not packing a Buick on my hip, I did that with my XDM for too long, its too heavy and too big for daily carry
          you do need to consider weight ..big time

          you will get suggestions all over the place, and the reason for this is “personal preference”
          everyone is comfortable with what they like or know
          I like a full on tactical pistol in the largest caliber i can handle effectively. One of the biggest issues I have is “reliability” if any hand gun , no matter the maker has a flaw or a short coming that deals with reliability in firing , I wont buy it or keep it mis-feed and as far as im concerned its junk and just cost me my life

          Go to a range where they will rent you different pistols , try out as many as you can and find what you like and what works best for you ..what works great for me, might not be for you

          I also wont buy any pistol I cant reload “Hot” rounds in, im a reloader so i buy what i know works well with higher than factory loads , so go for a fully supported breech .. some 40 cal of a certain popular make I wont touch due to the magazine blow outs that particular brand has exhibited with hot reloads , one “pop” like that and your history in a gun fight or just trying to protect your self

          go with what you have the most confidence with , and can consecutively be on target with time after time , and in the worst of situations thats what you want on your hip when the time comes

          just my 2 cents

        • Southside:

          I think the biggest determining factor is how often you will be carrying, realistically. The vast majority of concealed carry folks I know rarely actually carry on their person. They get the permit (which is BS in the first place), stick a handgun in their truck console, and forget about it.

          Another consideration is the state where you live. In Oklahoma, open carry was recently allowed. While I don’t open carry much, it gives much more options as far as how deep you conceal the weapon. The majority of the time I carry a Springfield XD 45 outside the waist band, with a button up shirt covering it. Don’t have to worry about “printing” or wind blowing your shirt back and exposing your weapon to other folks, as open carry is allowed.

          IF you plan on all day, every day carry, well, that is a personal decision. A high quality in the waist band holster makes all the difference if you go that route. Try sweating on a cheap nylon holster all day and it will rub a raw spot on your hip. The big question is REALISTICALLY how often will you carry?

          However, a few handguns that I own that I can confidently say are super reliable and easy to work on: Springfield XD/XDM series (many options), Ruger SR series, Glock (pick your flavor) numerous options on 1911’s. My back up pocket pistol is a Kel Tec PF9. Super light 9MM that has been a great cheap little pistol. For Revolvers the Ruger GP 100 or SP 101 are my faves. It’s hit and miss with Taurus, have had a few great ones, and a few turds. The model 627 tracker in 357 has been a good one, with 7 shot capacity. I occasionally still carry it on me.

          Good luck.

        • Get a full-size pistol and learn to be proficient with it by taking some decent instructor-led classes. Then find a group that does live-fire defensive scenarios so that you know how you will react when drowning in your own adrenaline.

          Only then start looking for a concealable that fits your lifestyle.

          This way you will end-up with two guns but you will be an asset to yourself and those that your care about.

          I have seen too many people that bought just the concealed gun but where never anything but a liability to those around them.



      15. Another pointed arrow in the “Kill Whitey” quiver.

        • If they kill whitey, who are they going to tax to support all that, EBT, SSI Disability checks, WIC checks, SNAP, Section 8 Housing, Head Start Programs,Public Housing Projects,Welfare, Medicade, Medicare,…………………..?

      16. That’s a very real possibility Barn Cat.. I look for something big togo down before Obama leaves office..

      17. “Why won’t Obama do anything to stop this madness?”

        Because they WANT the madness. It really is THAT simple.

        -The more illegals that stream in, the more they create crime.
        -The more crime THEY create, the more THEY increase the already bloated police state.
        -The more police and paid thugs THEY have the more CONTROL they can impose on you…all for your own safety of course.

        Even a fifth grader can see through the Oblunder admirations scandals, lies and ineptness.

        IT IS ALL BY DESIGN! Lock n load people!

        • Exactly. These gangs already are part of Shitcago and Lost Angeles city governments, just like the Irish criminal organizations took over Boston and New York (in our Civil War era), and the Mafia took over…well, everywhere, in the Roaring ’20s.

          FDR was forced to do deals with the Mafia during WW2 to keep the New York docks open. What deals are already being struck with drug gangs by Obama’s henchmen and sycophants?

          We already know about Fast and Furious. BTW was that really an Obama/Holder deal or was it a Clinton deal? We don’t know, any more than we know whether Benghazi was one or the other. These are both large criminal organizations, who hate each other. Just as the “Irish mafia” and the Italian Mafia did at the time of the JFK assassination.

          It’s beginning to look like we live in a world created by William Gibson.

          All I can do for my part is obey the old proverb: “When elephants fight, get out of the way”.

          • What is that dark stuff between elephant toes?

            Slow moving natives.

            • ROFLMAO! That made my day, and it’s only 7 AM !

      18. This is just too funny not to pass on…

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        • Eppe, you are the only thing keeping me sane in these troubled times.

          • Thanks everyone, I talked to my adopted second mom tonight, and she told me she has been holding back on some of the badder joke emails. I told her, please send, she is a hit with everyone here with her jokes plus what I have kept over 20 years. So, get ready, the comedy SHTF will start rocking. I hope to not offend anyone, but if we cannot laugh about our own selves, what is the point of living??? And thanks GhostRider, hope we can meet and blow off a few rounds sometime…
            Watch out for those good eye deer with AK47’s, guys and gals..

            Also thank Mac for letting us be able to joke and vent, this place is a gold mine for prepping and world news info….

        • @eppe:

          Fucking classic! LMAO!!!!

        • Funny. OK I passed it on.

          • Thanks, WWTI. Glad to have made you laugh. I almost have given up on this site, but knowing that I can bring a smile to some, makes me coming back…
            Sorta like an addiction, if anyone can relate to that…

            Thanks, Mac for supplying my addiction….
            (In a great way…)

        • Yeah, I’m pretty sure I’ve been to that website…….

        • Eppe, how original. sounds like a site I’ve been to before but don’t remember the web address. keep them coming.

        • Eppe I am still laughing over your hill billys and their “Hind Lick Maneuver”

          • And that was a five year old joke…
            Glad you enjoyed it!!!

      19. Yep…The Anti-White

      20. VERY soon we will be under attack from ALL directions.
        Got water, food, ammo and shelter?

        Putin Recalls State Duma From Vacation, “Planning Something” On Ukraine Situation
        (from ZeroHedge site)

        In a somewhat disconcerting move, Russian President Vladimir Putin has recalled The State Duma from a planned vacation to participate in an unscheduled meeting because of the situation in eastern Ukraine. As Ukrinform reports, sources confirm “Something is being planned, because many deputies come, probably for a quorum.” Rumors are spreading that Putin is set to issue Kiev an ultimatum over recognizing separatists or face military intervention.

        • And the rest of us should keep our damn noses completely out of it.

          BUT, WE WON’T.

          That’s precisely when we need to stage a coup of our own…right here at home.

      21. Off topic…. but anybody here know anything about tackmarks? Supposedly they are the reflective stickers on the backs of street signs that are supposed to direct foreign troops to strategic locations. Watch the backs of signs while driving and note that there are different patterns in terms of where they are located on the back of the sign that may signify what’s near by. By my neighborhood out in the desert there is a large yellow square above the smaller white one. I believe it is significant. Needless to say I will be rearranging the tactical markers on the signs around my home and suggest y’all do the same when the time comes.

        • Bullshit. When the time comes you should not leave your shelter except to get to a better shelter. You old people need to stop bragging about what you’ll do and tell us what you are doing today.

        • incognito: I will all so!

          River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!
          I smell revolution in the air!!

        • ….wear gloves….

        • A 3 second sprits from a spray can should be good for at least 3-400 individual coverage.

        • Mac: When are we going to be able to post pics? I’d like to see incognito’s pics on this. We NEED to have side forums for specific information….


          • PK, we tried to implement this feature several months ago along with some other commenting features but it didn’t work very well with WordPress and caused a security glitch, thus we had to take it down.

            We are, instead, going to implement a forum style commenting system for part of the site, and this should allow for pictures, videos and other typical forum features… this is coming, hopefully soon.

            Thanks for your feedback PK —

            p.s. — In the next few days I will also look into some plug-and-play plugins for WordPress that might allow us to do this in the comment area.

            • Mac…thanks for responding….hope you get the bugs worked out soon. OH and add a forum for the gals if you would…I have some questions for the women re: SHTF that I really don’t want to discuss on the open forum…

              Thanks again…


          • Just look at the back of the signs driving down the road or highway and look for patterns as to how they are oriented on the sign as well as what is near them. They are everywhere.

        • Satori, that is the biggest damned shame about GM and I had been a Chevy man ever since I was a teenager. so far they’ve had more recalls than ford had for all of 2013 and they recalled almost everything they built that year for one reason or another.

      22. Off Topic:

        See the Washington Free Beacon article about the National Science Foundation allotting one of its highest awards available — 10 million dollars — to researchers led by Yale University to develop……..GET THIS……..personal trainer robots for kids who need to learn English as a second language or who need to learn to get physical exercise or who need to learn good behaviors.

        Obviously, they are talking about low income and destitute illegal alien kids, so, WHO is going to pay for these robots???????????????

        Also on the list of myriad questions:
        1. What are the values and morals of the people programming these robots?
        2. Who decides what constitutes “good” behaviors for the robots to teach?
        3. Just how far will the robots be programmed to go in replacing parents?
        4. What happens when the defiant, angry, impoverished brat slams the robot against the wall the first time the robot corrects the brat’s behavior?
        5. What authority will parents have in deciding whether to accept a robot into their household?
        6. Will the robot collect feedback information on the kid and the family to report back to the issuer?
        7. Again, these things are costing many millions of dollars just to develop, let alone produce. Who is paying for it? How can a family which has English language problems (and likely is very low income and already on welfare) and/or behavioral problems with their young children possibly afford these robots, even if they want them?
        8. Since when is it the responsibility of the National Science Foundation to intervene in child-rearing within a private family?
        9. Since when did any of us who pay the taxes for the funding for this project indicate that we wanted such a social experiment and such an intrusion into private families? Since when did we indicate that we wanted millions and millions of dollars spent on the underclass for personal robots, including those who haven’t bothered to learn English?

        This is not going well for the country. Between the illegals invading and the social engineering being pushed by the socialists running the government, America may not be recognizable by the end of this decade.

        • Let the fat, stupid kids fail. Survival is about being fit.

      23. This is all being done by design, with malice of intent to destroy this country and impose a Marxist dictatorship. There will be an economic collapse, and a racial/civil war.
        The sole reason why our boarder with Mexico remains undefended is because too many people in posistions of power have a financial interest in keeping it that way. If we were really serious about the matter, we would have military troops patroling it and make the East and West German boarder look weak in comparison. It is not that we can not defend it. Our so called leaders lack the will, spine and balls to do so.

        • “We take our orders from the UN”

          Who said that??

      24. If you are an illegal alien (IA) and commit a crime , make the penalty harsh. If a citizen hires IA without proper documentation prosecute both. If an IA is proven to be a gang member , then show no mercy. It is one thing to want a better life ; it is another thing to be a burden on the welfare system.

        • Watch out! The Do Gooders will put you on trial.

      25. I believe this article to be spot on. Our American cities WILL burn. 3rd world pieces of crap; don’t make a 1st world nation. Im also sick and tired to death of;” Press 1 for English; Press 2 For……

        • Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Illegal Alien.
          Press 3 for pulling the trigger.

      26. Move to the midwest then move to the country an hour away from the largest city you might get away from the gangs

        • Why run? Let them come to us, they’ll last about two weeks.

      27. Folks because of our inept, lying, brain dead, power hungry, etc., etc., etc., (you add your own ideas), A$$holes that we (all) have elected to represent us; will cause a lot of innocent people and/or their families to suffer greatly in allowing this to continue. How much longer are we going to allow our government to go on destroying our country? The very HEART and SOUL of this country is being thrown to the wolves’! Tuff and Very Serious Decisions are going to have to be made soon, or it will be too late.


        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!

        • River Rat.

          Sometimes this shit can wind me up. So what do I want to see out of all this? I want to see the Giv-Me-Dats and the Free Shit ARMY, revolt. Nothing would sound better to me than to hear from My Sheriff. “You are on your own”. I have less days ahead of me than I have behind me and I am at the point I will not care about a lot of things once it happens.
          They have done many things to me over the years, and I have forgotten NOTHING!

          • Slingshot, braveheart gets all wound up too at times over the same shit. And you can bank on the freeloaders “losing it” when those EBT cards stop working, welfare checks stop coming, etc., when everything collapses. We will all be on our own anyway. since we’ll be WROL, it’s going to be “anything goes, no holds barred.”

          • Right F’n on Slingshot. Agree very – very much with every word you wrote. “I have less days ahead of me than I have behind me and I am at the point I will not care about a lot of things once it happens.” No truer words spoken.


          • Slingshot: I’m with you all the way, a lot less days ahead of than behind. In my life I’ve worked jobs that we put in 80 to 100 hrs. /wk., jobs that we had only 2 days off in 14 months, I’ve seen and done things that only my Band of Brothers could understand. I have never taken one cent in of any kind of help, paid my taxes, hell I’ve never had speeding ticket. Yet all bottom feeding scum who never, I repeat never worked a day in their whole life want to bitch about a cut in their handouts well that’s ok. Some of you out there will know what this means; IT DON’T MEAN NOTHING! Back in the WORLD used to mean something and it still dose, but this worthless bunch running this dog and pony show what more can I say. All in all I’ve had a good life and would do it again. Be safe my friend.

            River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE! The smell of Revolution is in the air!!

        • let em come.

      28. BJ how about a report of what’s going on.

        • Mountain Trekker how about a BJ from you?

          • Acid Etch, you have a very unique name. It must refer to the condition of your brain. Trekker Out. Love You Man!

      29. so- i’m on a scuttled wreck , the fat rats are jumping ship , i’m in dire straits, and about to crash on the rocks? i suppose i should be using all caps and exclamation points, eh? ..
        i did get a little rv and got some gear together..maybe enough gas to get to bartertown..
        – i hope all the tv/ hollywood training films will come in useful.
        hope there wont be giant cockroaches like in damnation alley..
        lotsa luck y’all.

        • Doug, there won’t be anything at barterville except ought six and double ought buck. That’s stuff the go lighters left in Dodge.

          Hope you got the real weapons.
          Semper Fi

      30. eppe:

        thanks for the humor, it made my day.


        looks like eisenfreak is here with us again. “the acidguy”.

        • Dmitry, I have noticed. Next time he posts, I’ll do a little test on him.

        • You mean etch-a-sketch?

      31. Off topic

        Anyone else having dreams/nightmares of orange skies.
        Then severe cold and ice?
        Just asking
        Even though it’s July and summer I am waking afterwards shivering.

        It’s serious times.
        We all can expect much bad.
        I pray hard for guidance.
        God bless one and all.

        • yes… and worse…I do not sleep well any more.
          I keep hopeing I wake up and all is well again, just wishful thinking and dreaming, I guess….

        • @22…yes, in a way. Since I was a child I have had a recurring dream of a blood red moon that seems much larger than it should be in the eastern sky behind my childhood home. (in my dream it alarms me).

          I also have a recurring dream where I am again, but on the front porch facing west, in my childhood home. It is twilight but this time the stars are red. All of them. And there are large “lines” across the sky. (again, in my dream it alarms me)

          By coincidence, I was telling my Dad of my dreams and he told me that he has similar ones.

          • @Npgh

            30 years ago I had a similar dream of a consuming fire coming from “The West” sweeping across America.

            Never had one before, or since like it.

            • too….dream as a child of sun and blood moon coming together….stars falling and unimaginable sorrow. Dreams of bombs, fires, giant wave/tsunami frozen/poised over NY coastline….lots and lots of dreams….more like dreams that are not dreams…

              I dreamed of watching men jumping/falling off a specific silver building in NY before it happened….saw a pic a month later of the building and it was the exact same and where they said the man fell from was the exact same place I saw….


        • 22 mission ,

          That and being chased by central amero gang members in the remains of a ruined city armed only with a S&W 6 rd revolver and a Randal no. 1,!
          Had that duzy last night woke up in a sweat ,with an urge to buy more ammo and Multicam.

          It’s just your subconscious reacting to what is going on around you , sort of like unconscious mental preparation for what may be on the horizon. TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS .

          Have to stop reading SHTF plan before konking out for the night and review my E and E training LOL.


          Semper Fi 8541

        • @Mission

          I had a similar experience almost 30 years ago. It shook me so bad I left the field I was working in and went to Seminary. There I learned that the “shaking” is reported by many of the Prophets as well and is called “Mysterious Tumors”. The way it was explained to me is the reaction of a sinful person to the touch of the Holy Spirit.

          Only people who have had this experience will understand it.

          Joel 2:28 NKJV “And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your Sons and Daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, and your Young Men will see visions,”

        • Thanks to all of you.
          The burning.
          Big red moon.
          Getting chased.
          Then severe cold and ice every where.
          Glad to know it’s not just me.
          Take care y’all

      32. Those who are not armed and proficient with their firearms will be slaughtered by these gangs. After the SHTF, count on them raping, robbing and looting, then controlling the area you live in….It` will be a madhouse… They will be swarming around like the roach’s they are….

        • Targets everywhere and me with an ancient M1 and corrosive WWII ammo. Surrounded like the Airborne. What to do? Shall I keep shootin’? and me with no Hoppe’s.

          Damn, my bayonet is around here somewhere.

          Hope ya’all are prepped for surrounded and ‘ill throw me a bandoleer of good stuff.

      33. What’s wrong with you Americans? It’s all covered in a book called Yankee Anti zombie survival manual. You can get it for the price of a bag of chips or download it free through amazon if you’re a member. Trouble is that some of you clowns are offended because the book sums up everything in 101 suggestions. It’s free or cheap and cutting into some overpriced, complicated non-sense. This was written by a guy who survived what most of you are fantasizing. It’s all about bagging the buck for most clowns. Its available for chicken feed, and that makes many foam at the mouth. If you are real Americans helping people, your people, to survive the pending economic implosion, it would be an honorable task to give out survival information free or for next to the cost of a bottle of aspartame laced pop. Convoluted reasoning of zombies: if it’s free or cheap, don’t get it, because it might save you from us. America is in deep Sh$$it because of greedy people at the top of the food chain. Hundreds of these survival manuals have been given away at seminars. Save your lives. At least check this out through the available introductory pages.

        • Enough with your “Zombie” book. No ones wants your spam crap. We “Americans” will kick ass when we feel the time is right. Your country “assuming Europe” has already fell since you are disarmed and being taken over by mooslims.

          Remember one thing, We are the most defiant and focused people on earth when we are pushed. Right now the giant is still asleep. Barry and his crew are trying to keep us asleep until their agenda is complete. If this angry giant ever does awake and the crap is at our doorstep, we will open a can of ass woopin this planet has never seen before.

          • “We’ll put a boot up their ass, it’s the American Way”.

            Toby Keith

          • Spoken like a true American made zombi!

          • Well, you couldn’t kick ass in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Korea, Venezuela, Brazil, Afghanistan, Georgia, S/E Ukraine, so when the grid goes down or the economy explodes and you run out of peanut butter and potato chips you can open up a can of your woop-ass and suck on it. The Yankee Anti Zombie Survival Manual was not written for zombies, but for people who don’t want to become zombies. In your case this is a moot point. And when you meet a real Mooslum you will immediately load your pants, cowboy.

        • Loco ,
          Just finished your book , the sense of humor fits in well here ,
          Please contribute to this site we want to hear more of your adventures and trials.
          I especially like the one with the E-tool ( entrenching tool , shovel) for defense really good one .
          What is your take on what is going on right now in your home country and Ukraine from the Russian perspective ?

          Semper Fi 8541

          • I’m a US citizen and served in the US army. Met the guy who wrote the book in NY during a seminar and received a free copy, of many given away. Like most Russians he knows more about us than we about them. Has genuine concern about people that cannot see the big picture: pending grid failure, economic and social implosion, mass hysteria, panic and starvation. The book is free as are his lectures. My personal take on what’s going on in the Ukraine is simple. The US has satellites that can see the brand name of the cigarettes you are buying and trace the BUK rockets from their source to the target. The Russians have shown their satellite shots. We have not.

      34. Just thought to share this one…off topic I know…

        George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell.
        While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.
        Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he is finished, the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.
        Next, Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she is finished, the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.
        Finally, George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he is finished, the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00. When Putin hears this, he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush

        got to call the USA so cheaply.

        The devil smiles and replies, “Since Obama took over, the country’s gone to hell, so it’s a local call.”

        And now…for something completely different – The Sawyer portable filter that sells for less than $20.00 – get it. I have 4 in BOB’s, and 2 in GHB’s. Tested them all, and they work.
        Be well.


        By Derry Brownfield
        March 9, 2008

        While looking through an old issue of Pastor Butch Pugh’s MINUTEMAN NEWS (, I ran across a six page article explaining how to “destroy a nation.” The author left no signature so I cannot give credit that is due for this exceptionally great piece. Since space in the Chronicle is limited, I picked the most important aspects to share with you.
        The article begins with, “If I was given the power to take down a nation, how I would do it?”
        Control the nation’s monetary system. Tax the population, incurring massive debt. Institute various handouts. Kill the unions that demand livable wages, medical benefits and pensions. Close down local industries, and ship them overseas, if workers balk at lower wages… Shut down mills, plants and shops and send them to foreign lands where labor costs are mere pennies. Import foreign workers for one third of American wages.
        Move major decision making to the executive branch, using Presidential Directives and Executive Orders. Pit American workers against immigrants to keep the focus off the various trade agreements; the more hatred and chaos, the better. The people must never see these issues as pertaining to class, but rather intolerance, racism and bigotry.
        Limit any real choices in voting, keeping the field limited to a two party system, where only the wealthy need apply. Both parties will be given scripted talking points so they don’t address the real issues facing Americans. Keep up the pretense of a representative democracy.
        Set up a dysfunctional Department of Education to dictate to the states insane mandates, regulations and policies to dumb down the future generation. A dumb population is an easily controlled population. Mental illness centers will become a major part of education. Saturate the land with drugs till the land is awash with mind numbing, brain damaging chemicals. Name peace officers “law enforcers” and gradually militarize them. Citizens should FEAR the police, not welcome their presence.
        Allow the HMOs, Pharmaceuticals and Insurance companies to destroy what was once an affordable medical system. The focus will be on profits with exotic drugs being offered in lieu of preventive medicine. Make retirement impossibility for seniors and those with fixed incomes or pensions. Encourage them to embrace “death with dignity.”
        Institute perpetual war, borrowing billions for destruction, while filling the coffers of corporate hucksters; destroy the known and familiar by scattering the security of small town America with concrete box stores, sprawl malls, fast food and appointed committees.
        Waco, Ruby Ridge, school shootings, road blocks, identity theft, color coded fear days, security cameras and drug sniffing dogs will be used to cause confusion, resulting in more laws and violating the rights of a once carefree population. Limit or totally prevent information, rational discourse and debate on all sides of an issue. Corporate control of the media is a must if citizens are taught what to think – not how to think.

        Trade agreements will create massive unemployment, bankrupt farms, imported food, foreclosures and homelessness.
        Give away lands, roads, schools, utilities, bridges, rivers and water systems to foreign investors. Use nature preserves, parks, heritage sites, biospheres and buffer zones as collateral for trillions in debt. Keep the multitudes distracted with ball games, theme parks, shopping malls, expensive automobiles, environmental activism, OJ, Paris Hilton, pit bulls and Rosie O’Donnell.

        All authority and decision making should be in the hands of corporate interests.
        All this I would do if I were to destroy a nation and no one would have a clue as to the final objective. The few who do object will be labeled “conspirators, crazies, fringe, extremists, communists, un-American and traitors.” Nobody wants to be labeled “other;” not in group think, that would make that person “the turd in the punchbowl!”

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!
        I smell revolution in the air!!

      36. Are we (not we) willingly committing national suicide? Yes.

        National suicide because some people are willing to open their arms to the world in the name of their tolerance and compassion while ignoring the plight of fellow citizens on the streets and going to sleep hungry. National suicide because some people have been radicalized by liberation theology to believe that they people didn’t cross the border and the border crossed them, that they’re entitled, and someone has to pay for what happened hundreds of years ago. National suicide because some people hate America for everything it stands for and would love to see Americans killed and extincted. National suicide because of internationalism and dissolving of the borders. National suicide because the left wants the socialistic voters, businesses the cheap labor. National suicide because of the welfare state and encouraging parasitism for anyone and everyone that can get here with incentives. National suicide because of order out of chaos when crime skyrockets, when or if the cities burn from gang violence and race riots, when there’s terrorism, when the stormtroopers and military are deployed, and the UN intervenes for the “refugees”.

        For too long the good will of Americans have been taken advantage of and exploited by the establishment to steamroll everyone with this agenda. I don’t like pressing 1 for English and immigrants (legal or illegal) that refuse to assimilate and learn English are doing a great disservice to themselves and their kids. With so many criminal illegals and gangers running amok, the American people still aren’t well armed enough, buy more.

      37. Off Topic but I need some help in making a decision.

        HK MP 5 22


        Ruger 10-22


        • BigB, I highly recommend the Ruger 10/22. there are numerous accessories and high-capacity magazines available for it. I’ve owned one [stainless model] since 2002 and swear by it. Other than some bad ammo and a bad magazine not feeding, never had any trouble with the weapon. Also a great weapon for teaching someone the basics of shooting and gun safety. Last weekend I found a polymer stock with pistol grip and Picatinny rails I’m going to get for mine, but have to wait another payday. Also you might want to get a spare parts kit for it which is available on ruger’s website. I’m also planning to get a heavier barrel for mine. You can’t go wrong with a 10/22.

        • 10-22, have 3, never failed me. Only buy Ruger magazines.

          Have a bull barreled 10-22 that feels like a ‘small’ full-sized rifle. Drives tacks at 100.

          I am unfamiliar with the HK, but anything with HK is fucking ridiculous in price.

          • the Ruger 10-22 is one sweet rifle
            exceptionally reliable
            and there are tons of accessories available

            and definitely only buy Ruger magazines
            that is EXCELLENT advice

          • My Marlin 60 drives smaller tacks and’s Purdier than my 10-22…. love em both tho…

        • 10-23

        • Both are nice choices:

          The Ruger is my choice due to lower price, LOTS of options (and availability) for upgrades, accessories, etc…

          The Ruger is also reliable, tough and straight forward.
          Hi-Cap magazines, folder stocks, you name it.

          The HK on the other hand is a ‘mimic’ of the classic MP5 frame… at twice the cost of the Ruger.

          Maybe others can chime in on the comparison better.

          The *real* deal breaker of course…is ammo.

          Unless you stocked up 3-5 years ago with good 22LR rounds….they are in very short supply which is not good.

          Good Luck to you!

          • Thanks guys.


            • BigB

              Neither, Marlin XT-22 bolt action.

        • Ruger 10/22, no question about it. Much better made than the MP5 22 clone.

          Not to mention, parts, accessories, magazines, are much more prevalent and not expensive. You can trick out a 10/22 to whatever you want, standard rack model plinker, bull barrel tack driver, folding stock tacticool, whatever. It’s a rifle, not a neat toy.

          The MP5 22 you can do absolutely nothing with but pretend it’s a submachine gun, which it isn’t, and have just a neat looking toy.

        • One of each, please…God gave you two hands for a reason…

        • I had a 10-22 and wasnt impressed at all. It was not very accurate. I kept it very clean and it was ok reliably but I much prefer a marlin 60 or winchester 190 for accuracy. The best is a bolt action if you like to be a tack driver. I would never get another 10-22.. they are way over rated.

      38. “Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. The Fed has cheated the Government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation’s debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed have cost enough money to pay the National debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States,has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Fed and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.” -Louis T. McFadden – Representative from PA 1934

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE! I smell Revolution in the air!

      39. and yet another great example of the total disaster that is our
        foreign policy

        Exclusive: A US-backed militia runs amok in Afghanistan…8StratRisks%29

        how many terrorists did this little incident create ???

        don’t have to be a f_cking idiot to be in a “leadership” position
        but it sure seems to be a qualification

      40. Keep every weapon cleaned and properly lubed. Hell, use motor oil if you have to. Zero those BUIS and scope/red dot. 50/200 yards works for me. When those pos thugs,criminals,psychopaths, and rapists start to move in, don’t hesitate.

        “When you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.” -Tuco (The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly)

      41. “Barack Obama can see all of this happening and yet he refuses to secure our borders.
        What in the world is he thinking?”…….Things are going according to plan.

        • Obama is a commie, Anne. He wants and supports the commie invasion across our border.

      42. Sooo… April 29, 1992 then?

        Been there done that got the t-shirt…


        I guess the past is “some” day huh…?

      43. So pretty much, what the .gov and media wants us to believe is that “the children” are their Achille’s heel.

        Perfect. I’ll go pop out 20.


        Gimme free sh*t… NOW NOW NOW!

      44. and the ASSHAT of the Day Award
        goes to the owner of this store
        whoever that IDIOT might be

        Store Posts ‘No Guns’ Sign after Armed Customer Saves Manager being Stabbed

        http: .//

        • Heard about this, what a crock.

          If I was the individual who saved the manager’s life, and they pulled this stunt, I would send the corporate offices a bill for security services rendered, about $50,000.

      45. “Poor Prepping” If you are someone, like myself, who has limited funds, but wish to be independent and prepared ….listen and learn…you do not have to be wealthy to be prepared….Knowledge is KEY. but you can have ANYTHING the “big” companies advertise for a fraction of the cost….remember that YOU can do whatever a “company” can do…at a fraction of the cost, and, most likely, with more healthy ingredients….for example, if you cannot grow your own garden at this time…go to your local farmer’s market and can, dry, freeze what you find there…..

      46. I’m sure that Presbo is aware that even liberals will sooner or later see what he’s really trying to do, and stop voting for his comrades in the Senate and other gov’t bodies. He’s got to try to overcome the system now by flooding it with as many parasites and thugs as possible, as soon as possible, to complete his ‘legacy’, the end of the USA.

      47. Those are a lot of gang members(banditos) coming from across the border. Quite a standing army if they can be led. We got a terrible cancer in Washington DC. The whole country is dying. I’m gonna try and paste an article over from King’s world news tha I just read on the downing of the plane over the Ukaraine. Give it a read. They’re trying to take us to war over this and keep the US population distracted by the border issue. It don’t bother King Koon though. Give those coming over money, housing and a chance to steal more and you got a population that will go along with anything you want to do.

      48. The Native Americans didn’t protect their borders either, and look at what happened.

      49. The Cities may not burn, but the streets will run with blood!

        Boost the murder/crime rates up/good reason to clamp down on gun ownership.

        40 shot in Shitcargo on an average weekend, YOU ANI’T SEEN NOTHING YET!

      50. ANOTHER ?? flight disappears ??

      51. I would say our cities are already burning.

        • Very nice site. I like it and I have added it to my Bookmarks. Thumbs up!!! 🙂

      52. The gang problem can be dealt with but it would take a measure of cruelty that our civilized culture would not allow. They tend to use the same standards to judge all people equally.

      53. I’ll tell you what the Mulatto In Chieftain is thinking.

        This is about the Communist left’s obsession to abolish the Second Amendment and to disarm every law abiding American citizen.

        Think about it. These rats know full well that they are flooding this nation with millions of violent, dangerous, criminals and drug peddling gang bangers from Mexico, Central and South America. Here is their strategy, summed up so even the stupidest moron can understand it.

        They want to turn the entire country into one gigantic Chicago and Detroit. And, these mestizo gangs are going to help them do that – because, once they are here, they are going to get their hands on every type of firearm that is available for sale to the general law abiding public (Holder and Obongo will make sure of that, even if they have to arm them themselves) and then those heavily armed gangs are going to start having shootouts with rival gangs in every major and non-so major city across the entire United States.

        This will result in unbelievable carnage, death and terrorize the masses and our Communist Mulatto and his cohorts, Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Mike Bloomberg, and the rest of these gun grabbing Bolshevik Communists who all coincidentally happen to be greasy, totalitarian jews – are thinking that they’ll use this explosive violence epidemic to wear down the resistance to their lust to abolish the 2nd Amendment and start confiscating our firearms.

        Look, people. All of this is completely understandable once you recognize the fact that we have allowed Communists who hate and despise the traditional America that we all love to take over our government.

        Remember what Obongo’s Reverend Wright preached to him for 20 years? ‘G-damn America’, right? Well, why is it a surprise to anyone who voted for this evil turd that he is carrying forward with the message he was taught?

        Thanks, to all of you lily White Iowan sodbusters who helped to foist this evil monster on our country.

        • Tucker:

          You are certainly spot on with your post.

          Wonder when a huge percent of SHTF readers will come to the same conclusion that you have. Until they do, our great country will remain in dire peril.

      54. Most of the big cities in the US need to be burned to the ground anyway. The cities will burn, the country will flourish as a result when all the trash is gone.

      55. Michael is a lawyer.
        I don’t know why he doesn’t do more than blogging about Obama. He’s better able to start a legal proceeding about it than we are.


        Excuse me???

        According to media reports, on the evening of July 18th, just last Friday, U.S. Border Patrol agents had to take cover, for the first time ever, from .50 caliber gunfire coming from the Mexican side of the border. The gunfire appeared to be intended and designed as “laying down cover fire” to force the agents to cease patrolling the border long enough for quite possibly someone and/or something to come across into the U.S. without being detected. Immediately after the cover fire stopped, about 3 dozen illegals came across the border and presented themselves to the agents — which of course tied up the agents’ time, allowing whomever or whatever had crossed during the gunfire to move on up into the U.S., further from where the agents were stationed.

        A. This .50 caliber gunfire directed at our Border Patrol agents was an act of war.
        B. This unusual incident came at a time that, in the grander scheme of things, places it mixed in with all of the other distracting incidents of thousands of destitute illegal kids and predatory teenagers coming across into the U.S. illegally.
        C. Only now, at long last, that the crossing protected by the .50 caliber gunfire has been completed, Obama is giving the order to “assess whether” National Guard troops could be of help.

        This stinks to high heaven.

        The best way to hide something is to mix it in with other similar things.


        THIS IS TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      57. Does White America have a right to exist? I say yes. It’s time to make it happen, again.

      58. comments in moderation for 16 hours ????

        WTF ???

        wake up dude !
        it’s noon

      59. Few of us have an idea of what The Feds have let into our country. The author Mark Bowden did a book about ten years ago titled “Killing Pablo” which gave a good history of the good Citizens of Columbia war with similar Narco-Terrorists. That war has been going on for almost 50 years.

        The Narco-Terrorists use everything the PLO uses to get their way, including car bombs, IED’s, kidnappings, and suicide bombers. MS-13 is a whole lot worse than “Street Gangs” and may even have ties to Castro’s Cuba.

      60. Just watching a tidbit about the emergency vote to fund 2.7 Billion to place the newly aquired future Democrats onto our national welfare system. They tied it into a provision to help the western states fight wildfires. It also has a provision to help resupply Isreal with anti missle defense shield. If the bill does not pass then we will not only be called “Terrorist Preppers” , we will be called ” Uncompassionate, Racist ,Jew Hating ,Terrorist Preppers ” I’m supprised they didn’t slip in a provision to help our wounded Vets and the infant mortallity rate. Then they could add the labels of UnAmerican and Baby killers.
        All in a days work for the people we elected.
        Take Care.
        It’s 5 o’clock somewhere.
        Miss Dee Dee

      61. The cities will burn ?
        What exactly is the problem here ?

      62. Think of it this way…

        During the cattle drives in the 1800’s, cowboys rode of *both sides* of the cattle, often firing weapons to keep them in the direction they wanted the cattle to flow. If one bad ass steer, got away…the cowboys would attempt to round the steer up.

        We and this government in Washington are the cattle and the cowboys are the international corporations and globalist puppet masters…and their enforcers are the U.N. and CIA.

        Obama can’t do anything…his hands are tied.

        The runaway steer is you, me and the economy…..

      63. It must be the restore order out of chaos theory. The only way he will get to enact martial law, while the sheeple beg for it.

      64. Why won’t Obama do anything to stop it? That’s what his handlers tell him to do. Are you sure Obama is a Dem? I mean after all Rush Limbaugh endorsed him and told his audience to register as Democrats in 08 to put him on the ticket. Later all of these current revelations about immigration and the border seem to have the strategy of pushing voters back into the Republican camp. Such irony. How many times do the Republicans have to screw their own constituents like they did to Ron Paul in the 2012 elections before the rank and file GOP members figure out that solidarity among them only trickles up to the top?

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