Gov Report: Up To ONE MILLION Jobs Will Be Lost Due to Minimum Wage Hike

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    A few weeks ago the Congressional Budget Office, which is responsible for the accounting and reporting associated with federal legislation and regulations, estimated that the Affordable Care Act would raise national budget deficits by $1 trillion and lead to the destruction of some 2.5 million jobs.

    But the new health insurance mandates and the pressure they will put on America’s businesses aren’t the only challenges facing an already dwindling labor force.

    Earlier this month President Obama raised the minimum wage for federal workers through an Executive Orders that will take effect on January 1, 2015. He promised to push through a similar mandate for the private sector. However, just because minimum wage workers in America will see a roughly $3 increase in their hourly pay doesn’t necessarily mean that they’ll be better off than today.

    According to the CBO, the wage hike is going to do exactly the opposite of its intended purpose. Not only can we expect businesses to almost immediately raise prices on the goods and services they offer in order to offset the wage hikes, but it will end up costing the American economy even more jobs in the long run.

    Once fully implemented in the second half of 2016, the $10.10 option would reduce total employment by about 500,000 workers, or 0.3 percent, CBO projects. As with any such estimates, however, the actual losses could be smaller or larger; in CBO’s assessment, there is about a two-thirds chance that the effect would be in the range between a very slight reduction in employment and a reduction in employment of 1.0 million workers.
    Congressional Budget Office: The Effect of a Minimum Wage Increase (PDF)

    It’s not just about the job losses, however. The report also discusses how the wage increase itself will put many Americans who are currently making $7.25 an hour above the federal poverty threshold. This sounds great on paper, but given that prices for just about everything will inevitably rise, those people will be paying more for essential goods and services. Moreover, anyone whose income jumps above that poverty threshold will likely lose many of the government benefits they receive for being below the poverty line. They’ll see their health care costs go up because they will be making more money and they’ll also lose full or partial access to food stamps, rental assistance and other social services.

    Increasing the minimum wage would have two principal effects on low-wage workers. Most of them would receive higher pay that would increase their family’s income, and some of those families would see their income rise above the federal poverty threshold.

    But some jobs for low-wage workers would probably be eliminated, the income of most workers who became jobless would fall substantially, and the share of low-wage workers who were employed would probably fall slightly.

    While a recent poll suggests that the majority of Americans support a minimum wage hike, they more than likely haven’t gotten the whole story. In fact, the Obama administration’s response to the CBO’s report was to totally downplay the warnings.

    In a blog post at, the White House Council of Economic Advisers cited Seven Nobel Prize Winners, eight former Presidents of the American Economic Association and over 600 other economists to support their claims that the wage hike would actually result in more job creation. They base this assessment on new “academic literature” which suggests that there will be no negative impact and that there will probably no job losses at all:

    The bulk of academic studies, have concluded that the effects on employment of minimum wage increases in the range now under consideration are likely to be small to nonexistent.

    While most people would love to believe that simply forcing employers to pay people more money will fix the problem and increase the wealth of individual Americans, it’s notable that White House economic advisers and experts promoted the economic benefits of the Affordable Care Act in similar fashion.

    The American people were told that they could keep their existing health care plans, that their rates would go down, and that all of their medical needs, including pre-existing conditions and specialty drug requirements, would be met.

    Just months after the launch of the so-called Obamacare initiative, however, Americans are beginning to see the big picture. Rates have tripled, insurance plans for millions have been cancelled, children dependent on life saving care no longer have coverage for their pre-existing conditions, and the system itself may well detonate due to unmanageable costs before year’s end.

    The same experts who told Americans that the Affordable Care Act would improve economic conditions and health care are now citing the very same economic panels to convince us that a wage increase will be beneficial to economic progress and income equality.

    How do you think that’s going to turn out?


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        California Pete Stark,”Listen you get the eff outta here or I’ll throw you out the window”

        Well, it’s that FUZZY math they teach now, like this one..the more in debt our nation is, the more wealthier it is!
        I KID YOU NOT!!!!

        Proud of this one are you California??

        • Maybe if we set the minimum wage to $25 an hour things would get better. If $10 is going to do such wonderful things, then $25 is gonna take it to a whole different level!

          • Are you kin to Pete Stark?? 🙂

            • Man, can’t this administration get anything right?
              How can obama look around and see what’s really
              going on with the people he is supposed to be leading
              when he never takes his head out of his ass.

              • Three surgeons were on lunch break, when one pipes up & asks…..what’s the best patient you ever operated on?

                The first replies: “..mine was a German Engineer, hell I opened him up and saw all the organs were a precision fit and they were color-coded…so I removed the green one…plugged in a replacement, sowed him up and he was fine!!!

                The second responds: “..I did a Japanese mathematician once..opened him up and saw that not only was everything orderly placed..but all the organs were miniaturized and numbered…I pulled out a #7..plugged in a #7..sowed him up and he was fine!!!

                The last sawbones(an old hand) said: “..boys I got ya both beat..the best patient I ever had was Barack Obama..he only has two working asshole and a mouth…and they’re both interchangeable!!!

                • Hunter, I just choked on a snack I was having. that was a really good one.

                • You can pay for the poor with food stamps and subsidized housing, or you can pay higher prices for everything YOU buy at Wal Mart, Safeway, and Piggly Wiggly.

                  One way or another, if you are a taxpayer, you are going to pay. There is no free lunch because there is no profit in “FREE” unless of course you are talking about FREE TRADE, and that profit goes right to the bottom line of the One Percent and their offshore accounts.

                  Engage your employees or be impoverished and enslaved by them, one euphemism at a time. 🙁

                  • Indeed, either the employer pays or the taxpayers pay through food stamps, EIC, free school lunches, etc.
                    Better yet, just print up the money to pay for it and have the Fed buy the debt and hold it to infinity.
                    That’s why this whole issue is theater designed to distract people from the fact that the nation is totally dependent on debt and credit to function.
                    Only when the U.S. dollar loses reserve currency status will this change.
                    That could take many years given that the dollar is backed by the U.S. military and an arsenal of threats.
                    It will happen eventually though, but I doubt I’ll live to see it.
                    I’ve been watching this charade for decades and it just keeps going and going.
                    Next farce to prance onstage….Bilderberg Hillary!
                    One a**hole leaves office and another steps right in.
                    This isn’t a constitutional republic, it’s a corporation, and it has no guilt about lying to anyone in its embrace.

              • Off Topic…

                Russian Ships Carrying Soldiers Said To Be En Route To Sevastopol

                “Those tracking the developments in the Ukraine, and specifically the Russian response to this weekend’s coup, will be interested to note that according to the Russian website, the large landing ship Nikolai Filchenkov, previously known for its participation in the Syrian naval arms build up, is expected to arrive in the Crimean port of Sevastopol carrying 200 armed soldiers, sent from the nearby Black Sea town of Temryuk.”

                “This appears to not be an isolated move as the naval build up seems to be escalating. In a concurrent release, Izvestia Kiev reported that out of Kubinka, four ships carrying special forces, are being relocated to Anapa. From there, in four hours, they will depart fo Sevastopol at a speed of 10-15 knots, citing “Izvestia in Ukraine” as a source. According to the source, the redeployment is “qualitative, not quantitative” and that the Ukraine is following these developments.”


                • PLEASE GO TO CHRIS HEDGES’S LATEST ESSAY– He quotes from the book “1984,” saying, “when people become conscious, then they rebel”. And Chris Hedges makes us conscious–of what our we have become and what the government has become. GREAT ESSAY! (At Truthdig). (No one writes like Chris Hedges–one of my favorite writers!). (” I write about Fascists…because they are Fascists”).

                  • FROM CHRIS HEDGES– TRUTHDIG:

                    My country, right or wrong” is the moral equivalent of “my mother, drunk or sober,” G.K. Chesterton reminded us.

                    So let me speak to you about those drunk with the power to sweep up all your email correspondence, your tweets, your Web searches, your phone records, your file transfers, your live chats, your financial data, your medical data, your criminal and civil court records and your movements, those who are awash in billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars, those who have banks of sophisticated computer systems, along with biosensors, scanners, face recognition technologies and miniature drones, those who have obliterated your anonymity, your privacy and, yes, your liberty.

                    There is no free press without the ability of the reporters…

                    (GO TO HIS WEBSITE FOR REST OF ESSAY).

              • Outwest:
                Obamma does not care he is trying to ruin this country. He wants it to look like the Suadan or were ever he was born. Just like most commies he is looking out for himself and his elect minuns that follow him blindly.
                Now you have to wonder why more people are not prepping after they read something like this.
                The time has to be getting close for the SHTF or the EOTWAWKI,
                S.T.S.F.P. N.R N.S. N.REB

              • OutWest,

                Actually his head is out of his ass, he can see what is going on with the people, this is his plan and it is working perfectly. It used to be the regime would sneak some sort of freedom sucking law into place when no one was looking, but now they do it right out in the open for all to see, why, because they can.

                The dear leader hates America and what she has always stood for, he hates Whites, he hates blacks, he hates Christians and Jews, this slime ball hates everyone except Muslims.

                According to NY Times, On March 6th 2007, Senator Obama said: Call to Islamic prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

                We are being led to slaughter in one way or another because we are sheep, think about it, there are 535 members in congress, there are over 300,000,000 people in the United States. Many of those millions are being led happily and licking the hands that are destroying them.

                • Northern Reb & Swinging on a star

                  I’m afraid you are both right, my friends.

                  He does seem to fit the classic definition
                  of a sociopath by his actions, doesn’t he….

              • Cloward-Piven. That is what this is all about. Spreading poverty and govt. dependency is their path to seize all power. They are almost there.

          • Like Spinal Tap –
            “I got awesome speakers, man. They go to 11.”

            • Back before WW1 there was an economic downfall.

              Back before WW2 there was an economic downfall.

              Back before WW3 there was an economic downfall.

              I know this is presumptuous, but where else is the U.S. heading with an e to the x exponential balloon debt but war?

              • To those doubting the seriousness of the Ukraine and Russia, look at what is at stake for Russia in regard to their very survival and geography of war and battle and mountains as a natural security barrier in this MUST read article.



                • BI; A very good read, does make one wonder who’s match will light the powder keg, and what will be the outcome…
                  I guess there is not a GOOD outcome to which ever situation this boils down too, one way or another, many innocent people will die… I just wish we could all play fair in this sandbox called EARTH…
                  Sorry I mistook you for the other BI, should have realized the jargon and known better…

                  • @ eppe. I think you’re right, there is no good outlook for this. Even if Ukraine broke into two countries, east and west, it would leave Russia without those Carpathian mountain ranges to help safeguard its western borders to invasion. Ukraine must stay Russian friendly and never try to join NATO. In all fairness, the U.S. would be in the same position if Mexico or Canada fell to China or Russia. The Rocky mountains helps protect the interior and eastern sections of the U.S. from an invasion from the west.

                    I was listening to all this rhetoric how it is the duty of the U.S. to go and defend Ukraine and not let what happened to Georgia happen to the Ukraine. These people just think that Russia is ready to surrender their country and will back down. A country that is capable of destroying the U.S. many times over, or with just one properly placed EMP nuke send most electronics into the scrap heap. I wish that some of these news sites would use a bit of common sense. Of course that is why they call it the MSM, mass idiocy. I should be ashamed of myself for watching it. I think the sandbox of the Earth you talk about has just has a hoarde of cats make a rest stop.

                    By the way the Carpathians are only about 500 miles long, but that is 500 miles that Russia does not have to beef up their defenses like they do on flat ground. Even with all the modern technology, the topography of the land and sea still plays an imortant role in war and geopolitics. If I see anything else I will try to post it. KY Mom and Satori are excellent at catching a lot of what we don’t see and linking it for all of us.

                  • No one is going to invade Russia. The US Army and the rest od the defense is going to be drastically cut. There are only two divisions combat ready. We would be lucky to resist the new National Police force that will be appearing next year.

                  • @ eppe. I was looking at Russia and saying to myself where is Russia vulnerable to a NATO invasion. Finland never joined NATO for the reason that this would immediately provoke Russia. Estonia borders Russia with mostly swamps and two large lakes that is not accessable with any type of heavy military. Lativa has about a 100 mile border that is a problem, but knows that allowing a NATO invading force from the Baltic Sea would mean the frying of the entire country. Like Estonia, difficult to get heavy armed forces into the country.

                    A small point of entry from Poland through Lithuania would be met with massive Russian forces at Kaliningrad, a Russian enclave that has been beefed up in the past few years with an enormous amount of missiles and other military hardware. Belarus is completely pro Russia. So an invasion through Poland would have to come through the northwest section of the Ukraine. Yes the country that Russia must never allow to fall to the west.

                    Looking down at an invasion through the Black Sea region you see again, Ukraine. Also though Georgia, that Russia invaded 6 years ago and took care of in hours. NATO forces through Turkey would have to get rhrough Georgia to get to Russia. The Caucasus mountain range protects Russia through Armenia or Azerbaijan. Only other invasion route to Russia from the south is Iran which is buddy, buddy with Russia. Any invasion through Afghanistan area would have to go through some of the tallest mountains around.

                    Russia has protected itself and to lose the Ukraine would open itself to being attacked from a land invasion from the west, the Black Sea, and on top of this lose the military jumping off points of the Black Sea for their navy. The Black Sea is really the ONLY warm water port to the outside oceans that it has. The Caspian Sea is of course land locked. Ukraine also is one of the points at which natural gas goes to Europe.

                    This is why Russia would HAVE to send troops into the Ukraine before allowing it to go the west. Russia would have to take over the country and make it part of the CIS or whatever they call it now to guarantee its own future as a nation. This is how incredibly stupid it is for any of these butthead newscasters or members of congress to even suggest that the west should defend the Ukraine against Russia. Interesting isn’t it?

                  • @ John W. It is not whether someone is actually going to be invaded or not, it is the legitimate fear that it is going to happen. Russia has been invaded many times and fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. If the U.S. was not so a threat to Russia then why does the U.S. maintain such a massive military presence in Europe? Look at all the air bases that the U.S. has that encircle Russia and China. Those military cutbacks are only 10-20%. The U.S. still will retain a huge attack drone force for example that is much cheaper to operate than living people.

                    A country can still be destroyed such as Russia through being boxed in militarily and economically. The Ukraine is an essential breadbasket of food, natural resources especially minerals, and is a point in which much commerce is shipped to European countries from Russia. Besides all this, the Black Sea. This is why U.S. backed Georgia with over a billion dollars in U.S. military was destroyed in hours 6 years ago. Russia is paranoid for good reasons. Just look at how the U.S. is meddling in the China and Japan dispute over those natural gas and oil rich islands. It is all geopolitical for Russia.

              • We are living the globally offshored, outsourced, free trade (GOOF) economy and it’s been an absolute dismal failure.

                No one had a problem when the low skilled manufacturing labor was GOOFed, hell you could get a good deal on a toaster from Walmart. Now that GOOF has moved up the food chain, unemployed highly educated white collar professionals are now having to shop at Walmart. How’s that good deal on a toaster look now, how’s that new education in learning how to live like the people who’s life you were willing to ruin for a good deal on a toaster. The toasters have come home to roost.

                • I have read some articles stating that by June 2014, everything will ‘BE IN PLACE’, should the govt. decide to declare martial law. They have built camps, bunkers, purchased plenty of ammo, food, etc.

                  “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
                  -John Dalberg-Acton

                  Every day we have is a gift. Use it wisely.
                  Keep praying and prepping!

            • Police states don’t occur all at once, but rather, little by little, as citizens become acclimated…

              • When the people that were raised in the fifties and sixties are all gone so is this country if not before then. No one will have a memory of how it was to live free.

                • An Austrian witness of Nazi tyranny and transformation.

                  “Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away!”

                  By: Kitty Werthmann

                  What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

                  I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide – 98% of the vote. I’ve never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.

                  In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.

                  Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs. My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people – about 30 daily.

                  The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna, Linz, and Graz were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.

                  We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group — Jewish or otherwise.

                  We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back. Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

                  We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.

                  After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

                  Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn’t support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

                  Hitler Targets Education – Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children:

                  Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler’s picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn’t pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles, and had physical education.

                  Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.

                  The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

                  My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn’t do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun – no sports, and no political indoctrination. I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it.

                  Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler. It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn’t exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

                  Equal Rights Hits Home:

                  In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn’t work, you didn’t get a ration card, and if you didn’t have a card, you starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn’t have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

                  Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps. During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys. They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.

                  When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

                  Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:

                  When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government.

                  The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

                  Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:

                  Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna. After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.

                  If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

                  As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

                  We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn’t meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

                  We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

                  Mercy Killings, Redefined:

                  In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps . The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months. They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

                  As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

                  The Final Steps – Gun Laws:

                  Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

                  No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

                  Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria . Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.

                  After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria. Women were raped, preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of fruit, and what they couldn’t destroy, they burned. We called it The Burned Earth.

                  Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses. Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized. Those who couldn’t, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians. This is an eye witness account.

                  It’s true… Those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

                  America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World. Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away

                  “After America , There is No Place to Go”


          • mac wasnt that raise to 10.10 for government CONTRACT employees ?
            These contractors will simply charge the government, or
            we the tax payer , more money for the contracts they fill .Its a circle jerk , so Obama is basicaly sayin that he will pick up the tab for the exta three bucks!
            Ya gotta love it , the perfect crime , once again .

            Unintended consequences, the contractor filling the contract will also make more money because his deal with the government allows for a certain % of profit based on the total contract amount. yet more money !

            • They will have to come back for more money or cut employees. The morons that now make up the majority of this countrys’ population think this is just free money.

            • ALL UNIONS base wages from federal minimum wage!
              Guess who else gets a raise.
              State, City, Fire, Police, etc.,etc…….
              These people put this REGIME in power.
              READ those bumper stickers and yard signs, AND TREAT THEM ACCORDINGLY!

          • Funny thing about obingos numbers….the bigger they are. The less they work…

            • Like his voter base !

            • It’s one of those “reach around” things that obama likes to do to us. I’ll bet moochell wishes she could have one too..

              • Obama is not into chicks.

                • Tranny for tyranny-snicker snort……

                • Walt – By the term “reach around” I was assuming he had his you know what up some other guys you know what and, because he’s such a nice guy, he was giving him a “reach around”. Moochell “wishes” because she knows her fucked up husband would rather have some other guys you know what instead of her big fat ass!

                  So your comment is null and void.


                  • I’m still not convinced Moochelle was born a she. I still think she’s a very expensively altered shemale.

                  • There are pics on BIN of Mooseshell’s dress pressing up against her “package”

                  • That’s a furby you are seeing down under. If you listen closely during interviews you can hear it prattling away.

          • Minimum wage is absolutely not supposed to support a household. It is supposed to be the workforce baseline of skill and/or production. With experience and time, one’s skills/production increases as does their wage. If an employee’s skill or production doesn’t increase, they are typically stagnant and or let go.

            The problem with those who automatically agree with raising the minimum wage, especially at an increase of near 50%, (7 something to over 10) is that they never tell you how the employers out there will come up with those funds to cover it. Employers will either let go of employees, raise prices, or close down.

            It is suspicious that the president spoke as he did about the minimum wage but then only had it affect the Federal employees; and a sliver of them at that, (contract employees). He makes my above point by only doing this for a very small portion of the workforce.

            And one last perspective, I don’t look at any minimum wage as simply a raise. I see it as my current wages that I have worked, scratched/clawed, sacrificed, and sweated for as losing that much more value against the minimum baseline of talent/production.

            • Maybe he’s just trying to secure LOYALTY, to make sure when he hands them contractors their rifles and kevlar, that they’ll perform as expected.

            • 1. The Federal Government is the largest employer of minimum wage employees. The vast majority, or possibly all of them, are contract employees.

              2. These are the only people he can raise the pay rate for without congressional legislation. And we all know that isn’t happening. In addition, it can only apply to new contracts so it’s going to take a while for it to fully kick in.

              3. The minimum wage would be about $10.68/hr today if it had kept pace with inflation. It would be greater than $20/hr if it had kept pace with productivity gains.

              4. If you want economic stimulus and an increase in aggregate demand these are exactly the people who you want to have more money. They are so far below the ‘marginal propensity to save’ line that they are guaranteed to spend every additional dollar they receive. And well all (should) know that every dollar spent in the economy has a multiplier effect.

              • The only minimum wage people on the Federal payroll are non-appropriated funds people. Everyone else makes well over minimum.

          • “Maybe if we set the minimum wage to $25 an hour things would get better. If $10 is going to do such wonderful things, then $25 is gonna take it to a whole different level!”

            Truly the correct rebuttal.

            In the days before antibiotics, if a little bit of arsenic didn’t cure the syphilis, surely more arsenic would cure it.

            Corrupt puppets and their corrupt illogic.

            • Well, more arsenic DID eliminate the disease by killing the host. that’s govt double-speak for ya!

          • Oh yes, spread the misery around even more. I like it!

          • Welcome to Zimbabwe Mr Slavo

        • If the politicians *really* cared about the plight of the average U.S. citizen, instead of treating the symptoms, they could treat the root of the problem and fix it once and for all.

          Let’s just follow the logic backwards.

          Q1: Why is there a need to increase the minimum?
          A1: Because prices of goods and services are going up.

          Q2: Why are the prices of goods and services going up?
          A2: Because the value of the dollar is getting weaker.

          Q3: Why is the dollar getting weaker?
          A3: Because the Federal Reserve is printing money at a rate of over 1 trillion dollars a year (and that’s just what we know about). The technical term for that is inflation.

          Q4: How do you stop inflation?
          A4: Stop printing money.

          But that will never happen because the politicians couldn’t buy votes with entitlement spending. Every time I hear about some politician going on about the working class needs help, I get sick to my stomach. The politicians are causing the problems. Here I’m going to take 10% of your total net worth and income this year from a stealth tax (inflation) but I’ll give you a few extra dollars to make up the difference.

          For better or worse, it won’t last much longer. The dollar is going to crash. Prepare accordingly.

          • excellent points/post Outlier……….

            I wonder how many people who who read the Obama kool aid claptrap from whitehouse . gov even ask themselves: “I wonder who these economic advisers, Economic Associates and experts are?”

            Of course the thinking people know that they are members of the big government machine or “academics.” Then the next question should be, “Are they biased in their projections?”

            Big govt wins if more people are dependent and needy of their overlordship and academics win if the youth continue to go to college and in-debt for 4, 6 or 8 years to increase their odds of a decent job and also to avoid the battle of entering a work force that has far more potential workers than decent jobs…

            O-bama’s website definitely takes the viewpoint exactly as you would expect the big government, career politicos and tenured professors to take–whatever benefits them ( and not the people) in the long run.

          • At Outlier

            Q: Why is the government printing one trillion dollars a year
            A: More people are dependent on the government than ever before

            Q: Why are more people dependent on government
            A: Lack of jobs

            Q: Why is there a lack of jobs
            A: The government enabled it for many reasons

            Q: Why did the government enable it
            A: Their loyalty is not with the people, their patriotism isn’t with this country.
            A: The are corrupt to the core and have been bought off or black mailed.
            A: They were chosen and financed by an entity to run for that office.
            A: They were educated to believe in globalism
            A: Some of them believe that an island will tip over and are so dumb that they are tools to be used.

            • At Rick

              Excellent response!

              • Absolutely Rick! Proud to be your neighbor.

          • Outlier:
            You could not be more correct. You make some very good point and they right on the mark.
            Get ready it’s coming soon I’m afraid.
            S.T.S.F.P. N.R N.S. N.REB.

          • If the politicians *really* cared about the plight of the average U.S. citizen,…
            – That is as far as I got before I laughed milk out my nose.
            Pleas don’t post while I am eating.

          • Iowa

            I’ve been hearing about this although I didn’t know it was 6 states. Now all the nuts can have a few of their own. Makes it easier to fence in too.

            • It will provide California 10 more Senators, two for each of the new states. This will make if even harder to overcome all of the liberals in the Senate.

              • erv

                Excellent point. I’m guessing that at least 2 of the 10 would be lib less. Maybe not though.

                Good Lord! Can you imagine 10 pelosis???

                • OMG don’t scare me like that, wrong.

            • Why do I not care about votes in California?

              Because I don’t see elections this year anyway.

          • Iowa,
            Dividing Cal. Into six states may sound funny enough to LOL but the result could be that the U.S Senate would end up with 10 more Liberal S – – -HEADS — Not so funny
            — Miss Dee Dee

            • @ Miss Dee Dee. This is one of the reasons that Puerto Rico has had such a difficult time to statehood, two of the most radical liberal new senators added to the 100 to make it 102 if PR became the 51st state. Also adding PR would mean that the House of Representatives would have 7 of the most liberal new members until the new census would divide everything back down to 435. Puerto Rico is the same size as Oklahoma that also has 7. It would also mean 7 more electoral votes in the column of the Democratic president, almost as sure as the 3 from DC. Guam and the Virgin Islands are too small for states as the population from the Virgin Islands is 1/5 of Wyoming the least populated state.

          • It’s not six states, it’s six sub-states within the state with each sub-state having it’s own governance. It’s just another way of creating another layer of taxation. I would bet that none of the California State taxes would go away but each sub-state would need revenue and it would have to come from it’s constituency. Sort of like a city and county tax.

          • Let’s not forget the law of unintended consequences. Should the moonbats in Cali actually approve this idiocy and the U.S. House and Senate approve, the moonbats get TEN more Senators than they already have.

            Any guess as to what party the majority of those new Senators will come from?

            • It don’t really matter. There isn’t any real difference between the partys. There isn’t any viable political or ballot box solution. voting is futile.

        • Actually last election cycle Stark was running in the district that i live in.There were no republicans running so the choice was a DA who had ties to a contractor or Stark.It was a lose lose but at least Stark didn’t get elected.

        • @ Jay Jay

          As someone who has publicly confronted Stark on both his asinine medical policies and gun bans, that tape was precious.

          Since he was in public in front of hundreds when I confronted him with facts, he had to do his best to keep his cool, but it was obvious that if our exchange had been in private, Stark would have decompensated exactly as Jan experienced.

          Let’s be sure to put Fortney “Pete” Stark on the docket at Nuremberg 2. Let’s be sure that one of the judges was educated at the University of Puerto Rico.

      2. All that executive order does at the moment is assure that once again government workers will be getting paid a premium to do shit,,,
        Atlas is shrugging,,,

        • Yeah, its only for federal gov workers. The national minimum wage increase has to go through Congress. But if Obozo decides to bypass them then hes gone all out and made them completely irrelevant. I dont think hell do it.

          • This minimum wage proposal is about the midterm elections. The demons need to paint the repukes as uncaring about the plight of the little guy. It’s a strategy of death by a thousand cut, there will be more and more of this type of exploitive politicking by the demons before the elections with it reaching a fevered pitch by October and with the help of the MSM the sheeple will buy it, hook line and sinker, as they always do.

            Expect Boner to squeak a mousy attempt at opposing it before passing it. Expect after it passes for more of the same from both sides.

        • Most of the people that dream this shit up have not a clue what minimum wage is or what it’s for.
          What is that at 40 hours? $2.85 an hour by 40 hours is an extra $114.00 a week? And the taxes are what 40% / $45.60 leaves,you $68.40. WOWWE!!!
          Since when is anything like that a family supporting wage?
          $68 bucks wouldn’t make a dent in my good habits let alone my bad ones.
          So you are contemplating hiring one of two gents. One is an older guy with a wife, kids and a background and applying for a ten dollar job. The other is a 20 year old snot nose little know it all with a IPhone jammed in his ass ( you know this cause his pants are hanging half off) detailing to you about his education and what he’s willing to do and learn and how motivated he his.
          Here’s what I would do.
          Tell the snot nose IPhoner, that he is just what we are looking for and expect a call in the future. But he might be overqualified.
          Hire the other older guy at $15.

      3. Hey LOOK! A Jew is standing in line..

        • .02

          There are no Jews in Missouri. If ya look close you can see he just has his hat on backwards and sitting sorta high.. Probably some damn redneck!

          The large guy in black in the front lost his job at Taco Bell because he couldn’t count to 12. That’s how many “shreddings” of cheese you get per Taco. He was always putting on 16 maybe 17 and they were losing profits big time. He only had three more years of college to go to before he had his Liberal Arts Degree. Now’s he fucked.

      4. Higher wages = more tax revenue + inflation / less cash to spend means more sheeple that will be used to fill the FEMA camps as future serfs when everything takes the big dump that’s planned… if it lasts that long!

        • Higher wages = less income for the business = few jobs and higher unemployment.

          It’s really just part of Obama’s war on the economy.

      5. Headlines:

        Ukraine leader warns country is dangerously close to economic default

        Eight banker commits suicide, as mystery over string of deaths deepens

        NZ Herald: Analysts say NZ economy ready for collapse

        How China fooled the world: leading experts warn of China’s inevitable economic collapse

        California deemed “ungovernable” – plan hatched to break California into 6 states

        Obama Warns Russia – Send No Troops To Ukraine

        Oil Spill Shuts New Orleans Port & Mississippi River

        China Order – Commence War With Japan ‘If Appropriate’

        Roundup Weedkiller Found In 75% Of Air And Rain Samples

        Obama Death Drone Kills Wedding Party In Yemen

        Robots About To Rise – Google Dir Of Engineering

        • @ .02. It is like someone just pulled the toilet handle on this world.

          • no shit

      6. I suspect this admin. is really thinking like this:
        If I get minimum wage increased by $3, I can discourage a lot of subsidies for ACA.
        Or at least, decrease those subsidies. 😉

        • Either way it equalls more folks in the poor house, lose who pay for the raise and tose who lose their jobs because of it,,,
          Screw em, starve the beast, start figuring out how to reduce your tax liability.

      7. maybe instead of increasing the minimum wage they should decrease the price of EVERYFUCKINGTHING!

        • Yeah, I don’t claim to kniow all, especially in this subject…..but it does seem to me that the minimum wage in the $7 an hour range is F’ing ludicrous! And shameful. No ONE, can live on that with inflation and the decreased purchasing power of the dollar. I don’t have the answer, butI know that 7$ an hour isn’t right at all.

      8. You may have heard on the news about a Southern California man who was put under 72-hour psychiatric observation when it was found he owned 100 guns and allegedly had 100,000 rounds of ammunition stored in his home.
        By Southern California standards, someone owning 100,000 rounds would be called “mentally unstable.”

        Just imagine if he lived elsewhere:

        In Michigan, he’d be called “The last white guy still living in Detroit.”
        In Arizona, he’d be called “an avid gun collector.”
        In Arkansas, he’d be called “a novice gun collector.”
        In Utah, he’d be called “moderately well prepared,” but they’d probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food.”
        In Kansas, he’d be “A guy down the road you would want to have for a friend.”
        In Montana, he’d be called “The neighborhood ‘Go-To’ guy.”
        In Alabama, he’d be called “a likely gubernatorial candidate.”
        In Georgia, he’d be called “an eligible bachelor.”
        In North Carolina, Virginia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky and South Carolina he would be called “a deer hunting buddy.” (esp. by our sheriffs..)
        And in Texas he’s just “Bubba, who’s a little short on ammo.”

        • California needs a lead enema

        • In Boston he would be a “terrorist”.
          On another note, restaurants are already tacking on one percent on the tab to cover for kunta kinte kare……..Uh oh, three words that start with k’s. Its gonna be a dog pile!

        • HAHAHA ,JAY JAY , In michigan he would be just another sportsman .
          Around hereabouts that kinda setup is a “starter” kit . LOL

          • hammer – MORE SNOW!!!!!

            • had to give ya a down vote on that @wrong , sorry.
              Im gonna go bust ice outta waterers now . hahaha

              • I gotta go sit on the tractor and clear a path for the girls. I can’t believe how dang hard its coming down. I deserve that red thumb..

                • @wrong , have ya bought into the growing hops hype?
                  Looks lucrative , but i aint sold on it yet.
                  Bein pushed a bit .

                  • I have some folks close by that got into it about 6 years ago. Their vines are just starting to get heavy in the fall. Probably worth it now. They sell to a few specific micros in town. North of here in Leelanau County they have them growing all over the place.

                    Maybe for personal use might be fun.

        • In Wy he’d be the guy that lives in the small trailer

      9. had enough yet ???

        no ??? ;0p

        there’s your HOPE and CHANGE tax debt enslaved once free zog amerika

        bwaaahahaha ;0)

        you are ALL soooo very f*cked at sooooo many levels of your life and society

        it’s okay

        none of you ever had a chance and it’s designed that way on purpose by the ptb nwo zog

        n.o. ;0p

          • The problem is that this country no longer has the wage base to pay its’ own way. Outsourcing and mass immigration with welfare for immigrants legal and illegal have pushed the income column into the big time red. There is no changing that until jobs come back and immigration with welfare services is stopped. Anything else is believing in Unicorns and pots of gold.

            • EXCELLENT COMMENT … Respect .


              as long as ‘PROFIT’ is the driving force and reward for global corps executives and owners in zog amerika , the ‘status quo’ shall be unchanged unshaken .



              n.o. ;0p

      10. Well, here’s the part I just don’t get — are all these ‘low wage earners’ completely devoid of ambition? I realize the GenX, GenY, and GenZ folks are crippled by their lack of intelligence, but c’mon! I have a GED, and some college (only to meet chicks, mind you), and am the Team Lead in IT for one of the largest financial institutions in the world. I did it by applying myself and not listening to the ‘experts’ that said I’d never go anywhere without college. My absolute minimum wage is $55 per hour. And that’s salary, too, not a contract. If I can do it, why the hell can’t anybody else? I’m no rocket scientist — wtf?!

        • Maybe because nobody in my part of the country actually makes even half that in salary, and any employer around here would laugh at you if you demanded that kind of money.

        • My friend’s sister’s aunt makes more than $85 an hour on the computer from the comfort of her home.

          You can, too…call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny.

          • jenny have a pink trailer ?

            • Is there truck parking?

              • I think I might know her….?

              • Jenny I got your number
                I need to make you mine
                Jenny don’t change your number
                867-5309 🙂

                • I thought that phone number sounded familiar.

                  • Come on man you’ve been parked in front of that trailer beyond the 10 minute limit!

          • …just imagine how much she could make on the kitchen table…or on the kitchen counter…

      11. Fool us once…shame on us

      12. If you don’t yet realize comrade zero’s actual agenda is to crash the country then you’re just not paying attention.

        • ^^^^^^^^^this many x

        • YA SNEED He is gonna crash it alright.
          But maybe worse than finacial armagedon is reducing the military to pre ww2 levels.
          Im no fan of the military industrial complex , but the whole damn world is burnin down.
          It seems like a real bad time to cut back.

          PREDICTION: Obama will reduce the military levels , we will have an “event” and the scumbag will re-institute the draft. you know, just to get at the so called privilaged white folks kids. just a thought.

          • He doesnt want the military strong enough to take over temporarily and shove his ass into the ground…

            • It only takes an army of one, in position at the right time…a target of opportunity.

        • Cloward-Piven on steroids.

          • yep @ john , exactly right.

      13. Sounds good to raise it but anyone whos paid any attention knows it never works…our dollar just wont buy what it used to and the more dollars circulating the worse it gets till you cant raise it enough to buy a loaf of bread…govicorp is responsible for this mess…they and all the cronies/lackeys and useful idiots who support them…dont know what the answer is but I do know the same old same old isnt cutting it anymore…we had a way of life that worked because we worked it…now they sabotage it faster than we can work it…oh well gonna plant some more greens its the only way I know to defend myself anymore….

      14. Switch your business to all contract labor, 1099 them, and expense them all off. No withholding, no FICA, no Medicare costs.
        Hire a good CPA. Tell the government to Eff off.

        • wayyy ahead of you on that one 😉

        • Exactly! We like to call them “subcontractors” Or sometimes “casual labor”.

          Rellik – Good on you!

        • 1099,no thanks,too much paperwork,cash or barter is it!

      15. Does anyone know where one can find Foreign junk silver to purchase? i.e AUS Sixpence
        I have searched for AUS junk silver and canadian junk silver and all that comes up is US junk silver. I want the foreign stuff at a lower % of .999 silver (50% to 80%) rahther than US junk silver at 90%. I am thinking I can get a better deal on it and I dont want to extract silver fron good pre 65 US coins but won’t mind doing it to foreign coins.

        Also wondering how one would go about trying to find large amounts of silver oxide batteries?

        Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.

        If your going to lecture me from you all knowing mind on what a waste of time this is and cost/benefit analysis…..please dont waste the time typing, I don’t care. I AM going to do this and think it will also be a fun science project for the kiddos at home.


        • BJ Try Calling C and C Jewelry at 231-947-3940 Traverse City). Ask for Brian. He works with the coins and will know.

          • hey wrong, i bought some coin there….

            • Its a great place. Totally trustworthy!

          • My home base is Muskegon, just a couple hours south of there. But have only been home 10 days since Jan 2012. I work down in the Midwest in Ia/IL

          • My home base is in Muskegon, just a few hours south of there, but have only been home for 10 days since Jan 2012. I work down in the Midwest in IA/IL.


            • BJ

              We have communicated before via email.

              • Awwwww, ok, I remember you 🙂

      16. The robots are coming! The robots are coming! We’re all going to be replaced. I’ve seen some of the new automation planned for fast food joints. Pretty soon you won’t even be able to get a job flippin’ burgers. I hope the robots like burgers. Because no one will be able to buy their products.

        • Come vith me if you vant to live…..

      17. The banksters and power elite through the politicians they own move the wealth up the ladder and balance the books on the back of labor which has little say in the government which controls them.

        If they abolish the 13th Amendment 100% employment can be obtained. Such a thing would be far too honest in principal. Like the evisceration of the 4th Amendment its substance is rendered moot while maintaining its language. Debase the currency and freeze wages and welcome to de-facto economic slavery.

      18. The Government is the only one that will benefit from the minimum wage increase through the increase in payroll taxes.

        • But HH,will raise folks above poverty levels,of course,then they can pay for mandated obamacare insurance,that should really raise their standard of living!

        • Govt. contract workers are paid with tax dollars. Just how will this help? They will be paying far less in taxes than what they receive in wages and benefits. You work for OMB? Sounds like the fantasy stuff they believe in.

      19. Million jobs lost with raise in pay rates/wages?Minimum 2-3 million lost due to obamacrap insurance mandates,this cbo admits,and how many lost their insurance due to this bullshit completely,time will tell but will be 10’s of millions would think is a reasonable number.

      20. “The wage hike is going to do exactly the opposite of its intended purpose…”

        But what if it’s intended purpose is to create another million Democrat voters because they will be on unemployment?

      21. Another steaming pile from the government!
        Everything they touch turns to horse hockey!

        We need two new Constitutional Amendments.
        Term limits on everyone in public office, one term.
        If you do not pay taxes, you cannot vote.

        Next, ……

        • Next….limits on monies spent on political races,no bullshit freedom of speech,you want to run for office,you only get to spend so much and all donor lists made fully public.


          • If politicians and govt employees break the law, they got to jail and automatically lose their jobs and the pensions and perks that go with it..


      22. For the majority of the youth the American Dream is dead, even for the rapidly growing not so young percentile. The capitalists always will increase their profits, damn the consequences to those who actually do work. Trickle down economics have proven to be a total farce foisted on a trusting public. The grossly wealthy corporatists hide that wealth offshore and pay little or no taxes on it, while seeking further lower taxes on their income. Inroads on limiting the gap between the rich and those barely scraping by are going nowhere, meanwhile it is reported that “Poppy” Bush is worth over 60 trillion dollars. The war in Afghanistan is mostly about heroin and our elected representatives are getting their piece of that drug trade. That is why they will maintain a strong u.s. troop presence there beyond the stated end date of the so called war. Illegal continued immigration and the outsourcing of this nation’s jobs is treason. Raising the minimum wage will mean little to those who need it, as the cost of living will outpace any gains.

        • @aljamo, your comment is self defeating , capitalism works, the problem is corruption IE crony capitalism.
          when a man trades labor for a fair wage , its capitalism.
          When a man trades labor for a fair wage and recieves 50% because the government supports the corp he works for and the wars of the government , it no longer works .
          The US is nearing fascism , the government cannot be separated from the corporation anymore.
          Trickle down economics works , but not in this environment .

          • hammerhead… I don’t believe trickle down economics have ever worked and never will work in a capitalistic based monetary system. Greed is human nature, it will always result in the present scenario. Who wan’ts to be capitalized upon? It’s not just trickle up economics we have, the greedy bastards want it all. Capitalism is another form of communism.

        • Who are the six morons that gave you a thumbs up? They should be over on the DU site where the other idiots hag out.

      23. I realize this is only for government workers. However people get all starry-eyed when they hear the minimum wage is going up, as if that will create more customers to pay for it. Retailers who are already on the edge will have to actually cut employees’ hours, resulting in either the same take-home pay or even less; or in rare cases the employee will receive more or the same money for working fewer hours, but to compensate for this the employer will now have to work longer hours for less money. Prices will also rise to pay for the increase in the minimum wage. Low wages and low prices go together; high wages and high prices go together – nothing else works. You can’t pay out more while taking in less or the same amount of money and still keep your head above water. I was in retail years ago and the rise in the minimum wage was one reason I sold my shop. Wow, $3 per hour is a huge increase to have to pay out, this will be a disaster for small retailers like I was.

        • They are not govt. workers. They are contract workers on govt. projects. No wonder we lose all the time when people don’t even get the basics right.

      24. Anytime the government gives you a number multiply it by 1.66 to 2.75, so the CBO estimate of 500,000 is really 830,000 to 1,375,000. If the government says they are going to save money you can bank on them spending more money.

        The sad fact is that no one in Washington can tell you how much they spent today, this week, this month or last year. They just don’t know. In the US government today I don’t think they could spot a $100 billion dollar theft. Think about that!!!!

      25. So, I gather all you who are complaining about the minimum wage hike would be glad to work for the current minimum wage? Any takers? I thought not. Morons and hypocrites.

        • NCJoe…you are an idiot.

          • +1
            WHY SHOULD I?

        • ncjoe, f#$% you! BTW, I’ve been at minimum wage in the past. There’s nothing nice about it, but I improved my skills and my worth to the people I work for and I do pretty good now. Living at minimum wage does suck, I’ll grant you that, but it is possible with hard work, diligence, the right attitude, etc. to move up from it and cut your own niche. Your life is what YOU make it, not someone else.

        • NC JOE , the minimum wage is for the kids that are gettin their first job and learning the ropes of employment. simple as that. so nobody takes advantage by payin 2 bucks or somthing stupid.
          It is not ment to be a family supporting wage. period.
          Maybe some of you minimum wage supporters should think about working harder and gettin a raise that is EARNED!

          • Simple Math for future Working Americans–

            (Minimum Wage + Welfare/Assistance) = The Middle-Class


            Ugly the Revelator !!!!

            • soon to become

              (A little Higher Minimum Wage – Welfare/Assistance) = The Middle-Class

        • You obviously never took economics. I’ve experienced 30 years of”union” labor. Every time I received a raise,prices went up to the consumer and hours went down for the workers. More work was piled on to make up for the wage increase. We tread water for all those years,we never really got ahead at all and retirement doesn’t come close to dealing with present inflation nor does Social Security. That is what will happen to those that will get a 3 dollar raise. People will buy less and in trun workers will earn less and pay more taxes. Lose lose for everybody. Where did the govt. get the expertise to determine who should get a raise? The market should determine it not some idiot in Washington who has no idea what they are doing.

          • Labor plays catch up with rising prices.

            In the late 1970s labor was blamed for inflation while the true culprit was the over creation fiat currency (both actual post 1971 and and “in effect” pre 1971 when the gold standard was not truly followed in substance).

            If the minimum wage stays the same prices are still going to rise significantly.

        • Morons and hypocrites? Which one are you? It was the way this was done by Obama via executive fiat that was wrong. The only way to get a healthy big increase in wages is when there are far more jobs than workers. The fact that with zero interest rates the economy is not smoking hot shows just what a sham the whole recovery is. All the so called stimulus is going to enrich the wise guys that keep the poor down and Obama in power.

      26. Seeing as how we are getting the shaft in one way or another I thought these might be fitting to the situation… Not to gross out anyone, but it sure was funny…

        +————— Colonoscopy Humor —————-+

        [A physician claims these are actual comments from his
        patients made while he was performing colonoscopies.]

        1. “Take it easy, Doc, you’re boldly going where no man has
        gone before.”

        2. “Find Amelia Earhart yet?”

        3. “Can you hear me NOW?”

        4. “Oh boy, that was sphincterrific!”

        5. “Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?”

        6. “You know, in Arkansas, we’re now legally married.”

        7. “Any sign of the trapped miners, Chief?”

        8. “You put your left hand in, you take your left hand out.
        You do the Hokey Pokey….”

        9. “Hey! Now I know how a Muppet feels!”

        10. “If your hand doesn’t fit, you must acquit!”

        11. “Hey, Doc, let me know if you find my dignity.”

        12. “You used to be an executive at Enron, didn’t you?”

        13. “Could you write me a note for my wife, saying that my
        head is not, in fact, up there?”

          • Could see the tech there working to heat/power homes perhaps down the road,power will get cheaper easier to produce no matter what the govt. does to fight that,and they have.

        • And the funny line from ‘Larry the cable guy’ I asked the doctor if he found my TV remote up there cause everytime I farted the volume would go up or down”.

          I had my first a couple of years ago and asked the Doc if he used ‘minty” lube’ “cause my breath felt fresher”.

        • Once dated a nurse named Kate

          Makin’ love to her was great

          But when I was done

          She musta thought it’d be fun

          To try and check my prostate.

        • I like the muppet one, went to school with the guy who runs the muppet empire now, always wondered where I would have been now if I freaking played with puppets in the 70’s… A very uncool thing to do then, but now he is worth millions…

      27. Everyone at my job is bitching about money…. including me. We get 20 cent raises and they act like it’s a gift.

        I’m grateful to have a job but considering how much money I’ve made for my organization, it’s a slap in the face.

        This world is full of greed and it’s very sad.

        Time to find another job soon… LORD WILLING

        • Time to prepare for NO JOB! Food, water, necessary medicines, and DEFENSIVE MEASURES. What is coming VERY SOON will make most JOBS irrelevant! AKA—GONE!

          For the “idiots” still attempting foreclosures and debt collection during this time—prepare to be met with “nothing to lose DEADLY FORCE”!

        • Start the same kind of business you work at now and get the employees to go with you by paying them more. Problem solved. It’s so easy I don’t know why everyone doesn’t do it.

          • Or better yet, a bunch of you join together and start the business,

        • INDY , stop lookin for a job.
          The future is self employment , get ya some!
          Hell, i’ve been broke ever since i jumped in and i love it ! happy to be broke , yep , try it , you,ll like it.

      28. Why oh why can it not be seen, the racket that the whole world is victim of? It’s so simple, look at this; the Bank loans you 1000 dollars at 5% interest! How much profit does the Bank make? No, no ,no, not 5%, 105%, remember, they loaned you 1000 of nothing, no thing and you agreed to pay back 1000 of something, plus interest, which that 1000 of nothing would become after you labored and monetized it. So, you borrow no thing and you pay back some thing and the some thing is,… the labor of your life! But, the Bank, depending on the Reserve requirement, can loan that “No Thing” over and over but, while I’m being totally truthful, I realize it’s getting complicated for those who know nothing of the racket that has all but destroyed the United States of America. Listen, my dear friends, if Hitler did away with the Jewish Central Bankers, we sure as hell can and do it, we must. Nothing is more important to our national survival, even if it is after a collapse of our system, we must destroy this money system for ever. That is why it is so important to destroy the Federal Reserve Building with wrecking ball and bulldozers, not explosives, so that Americans can see daily that Jew power in America is forever defeated. When this government is once again American, that is to say, Whites, of European descent, not hyphenate Americans and most assuredly not “Dual citizens”, it will quickly be noted that the issuance of interest free money will send this economy into the stratosphere and these horror stories will no longer be possible. God Bless my wonderful country!!!

      29. Reposted


        How many German marks it took to buy one ounce of gold
        January 1919 $170
        January 1920 $1340
        January 1921 $1349
        January 1922 $3976
        January 1923 $372,477
        September 1923 $269,439,000
        Oct 2 1923 $6,631,749,000
        Oct 9 1923 $24,868,950,000
        Oct 16 1923 $84,969,072,000
        Nov 5 1923 $8,700,000,000,000
        Nov 30 1923 $87,000,000,000,000

        Scary. Own real property or land? You’ll be a billionaire overnight. That Yugo parked on the back 40 your using for target practice might be worth a million. To bad a loaf of bread will set you back two million.

        • Redneck 101: That wiemer hyper inflation of germany is EXACTLY what got FIXED by the Method posted by Aerielus’s Posting. BEFORE Hitler it was as redneck posted…

          After hitler Booted Jew banksters OUT, in over 4 yrs but Less than 5 yrs time Germany was back to normal. it began with PRE hitler jew banks at close to 40% Unemployed…LESS than 5 yrs and it went down to almost ZERO unemployed. With alot More to the whole story way too much to post so go research it.

          The real #1 Main reason they so badly wanted to demolish hitler and germany is due to Booted jew banksters got very worried, that if the ENTIRE world stuck in Great depression era, got wind of germanys come back, EVERY Nation would have copied germans and every jew bankster globally would be RUINED forEVER!

          Says quite alot about Our usa prez, churchill, et al that They made certain jewish banksters can KEEP swindleing every nation with a fed res type scam bank..Some patrotic “WWII Heros” eh.

          Its TOO Bad instead of jewish banks we weren’t dealing with Japanese or korean or african or arab or even white folk banks…Because if we were then 99% of Everybody would agree to BOOT Out such banksters for good right.

          But since its the worlds greatest “victims” group who owns the banks, that Same 99% everybody feels somehow compeled to defend and support it and them.

          One can’t make this stuff up eh.

      30. At least Piers Morgan got canned.

        • shifty , i hope they used tattle lids !

        • aint that the truth!

        • There is no one more deserving. I loathe that man.

      31. vlad the russian bear ‘DECLARES actual WAR’ mobilizes 250,000 russia air borne shock troops and warns via telephone call to zog wash dc of WW3 against barry the zog amerikan fairy …

        over Ukraine Crimea … NUDE BEACHES !!!

        Crimea nude beaches ???


        • Hehehe,,,,
          Verrrrrryyyyyyyyy niiiiiccccceeee,
          Ten thumbs up!

        • You are normal after all. Some fine looking ladies.

      32. vlad the russian bear ‘DECLARES actual WAR’ mobilizes 250,000 russia air borne shock troops and warns via telephone call to zog wash dc of WW3 against barry the zog amerikan fairy …

        over Ukraine Crimea … NUDE BEACHES !!!

        Crimea nude beaches ???


      33. Why is it so hard for others to understand these questions and answers. Why can’t people put 2 and 2 together. Figure it out.
        KUDOS to the posters of the below questions.

        Q: Why is the government printing one trillion dollars a year
        A: More people are dependent on the government than ever before

        Q: Why are more people dependent on government
        A: Lack of jobs

        Q: Why is there a lack of jobs
        A: The government enabled it for many reasons

        Q: Why did the government enable it
        A: Their loyalty is not with the people, their patriotism isn’t with this country.
        A: The are corrupt to the core and have been bought off or black mailed.
        A: They were chosen and financed by an entity to run for that office.
        A: They were educated to believe in globalism
        A: Some of them believe that an island will tip over and are so dumb that they are tools to be used.

      34. Obamacare NEVER was about health care. And this minimum wage malarkey is NOT about wages. Or the working poor, or any of that. The godless bastards in DC, and especially their puppet masters who pull the strings, don’t CARE about human suffering. They don’t care about human life… except their own.
        The whole point is to CRASH THE SYSTEM. And remember, this is a constant, multipronged attack. Playing on the hopes and fears of poor sheeple is just one more way to get the job done. And with the media firmly in tow, the masses will blame whomever they are told to blame when it all falls.

        Green energy initiatives
        Global warming prevention
        Saving the environment
        Boosting wages by federal mandate rather than market reality
        ‘Free’ healthcare
        Free phones
        Free housing
        Free everything
        Gun confiscation to stop crime
        Watch lists used to label all dissent as domestic terror
        Saving the children from their own parents
        Constant surveilance of everybody everywhere
        Continual attacks on traditional morals and beliefs
        Laboratory created diseases

        The list is endless. And so are the angles of attack. The attack is aimed at the system, the nation, the very culture which we once had in America. The PTB want to tear it all down, believing they can rebuild it in their own image. ( a one world, godless humanity that will somehow be docile, content and harmless to the few at the top).
        The people orchestrating this are ruthless. They are the very essence of evil. They never stop. And they NEVER SLEEP.
        Neither should we.
        Keep your powder dry, your saddle cinched…

        • I seem to keep my butt clinched more often now too…

          • You da man, eppe! Been cruising through some back articles and you’re crackin me up!

            • Amen bro, since you have been absent, been trying to take up the slack, even though some still red me down, I do not care anymore, we all need a laugh here and there everyday…

        • SmokinOkie.

          You make One of the better explanations of the issues before us. They have an answer for everything. My how their tongue’s wield so much power over the stupid masses. You are right, for what they can not put into hands to temporally satisfy, they will blame others for their short comings and discomforts.

          Feel the Evil.

        • When will they have free oly on the list?

          • Is he kin to willy?? 🙂

        • Smokin:
          You can say That the government has evrythying BACK ASS WARDS OR IS THAT WARDS BACK ASS OR ASSBACK WARDS. NO MATTER HOW YOU SAY IT WE ARE SCREWED!!!!!!
          S.T.S.F.P. N.R .NS N.REB

      35. 100 accidents in spokane today.. slick.. one wreck every 5 minutes.

      36. Tell Ted Kennedy if I deliver in Massachusetts I have to call them ‘toe-mah-toe’ seeds. Either way, I got 45,000 lbs of them headed his way. Gonna be a big garden this year.

        Ooops, YELLOW and blue make green. I remember that from the ziplock commercials.

        According to my atlas, Shinola is 240 kilometers north of Shaghai. I could be there in 3 hours but I’m not crossing a weigh station where they don’t at least speak spanish.

        I found some stale Snickers bars on sale for 50 cents at the Petro. They were 6 months outdated but still edible. I bought all they had. Look at it like this- the silver may be a bit tarnished but it was only $14 and ounce!

        I’m so sick of driving in the snow. Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska, Arizona, Virginia… wherever I go, it seems to be snowing. Even had to chain up to get out of the truckstop the other night. Of course, the fact that we parked on top of the fuel pump may have had something to do with it… that diesel fuel is Slippery!

        If anybody is in Texarkana next Saturday night- I’ll see you at the Electric Cowboy! Lord willing and we don’t encounter any more blue light specials.

        • Her’s one for ya Smokin…


          This may very well be the best thought out item we have read since 9/11/01.
          Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan … what we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.
          I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here’s one plan.

          1. The US will apologize to the world for our “interference” in their affairs, past &present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosovich and the rest of those ‘good ole boys, ‘We will never “interfere” again.

          2. We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don’t want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the fence.

          3. All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We’ll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them.

          4. All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don’t like it there, change it yourself and don’t hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don’t need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

          5. No “students” over age 21. The older ! ones are the bombers. If they don’t attend classes, they get a “D” (for “deport”) and it’s back home baby.

          6. The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

          7. Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don’t like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

          8. If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not “interfere.” They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, ! rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

          9. Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don’t need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

          10. All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us “Ugly Americans” any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH…..learn it…or LEAVE…
          Now, ain’t that a winner of a plan.

          “The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying “Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses.” She’s got a baseball bat and she’s yelling, “You want a piece of me?”

          • Along those lines…

            I want one of the bumper stickers you used to see all the time “America, Love It or Leave It”.

          • EPPE:
            S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.REB

        • Ooops, YELLOW and blue make green

          How many preschool teachers caught that mistake, Smokie?/

      37. At least some of the power elite are economically literate. The families who have “home offices” (from which they manage their family’s hundreds of millions of $$ in investments or business interests) that are qualitatively different from yours, in some cases staffed by full-time JDs, CPAs etc. have to have some smarts just out of self defense. To know if the “hired hands” are telling them the straight story. Which isn’t to say some PE scion are so dumb they need help tying their shoes.

        My point is, raising the minimum wage, making millions of low-productivity workers unemployable, IS part of their plan.

        With most of our land forces deployed, where is Oshitstain going to get the myriads of potential brown shirts to kick in our doors and staff those FEMA vacation resorts?

        The “reserve army of the unemployed’ has always existed. Usually, the power elite makes some effort, if only when the cameras are on, to act as though they are gunning for full employment.

        A large fraction of the chronic minimum wage cohort are youth, college kids making lattes who have no plans to make that a career. But for right now, it pays some tuition and provides some spending money. Or wives of the well-employed who will happily be retail help somewhere just to get out of the house while the mister practices law or whatever.

        Those in charge WANT those myriad minimum income folk to be unemployable. Where will they go? The most docile, the most obedient of them will be the brown shirts who will be engaging us when the time comes. They don’t have the options the power elite kids have. They don’t have the choice of starbucks or the bond trading desk at JP Morgan.

        Plus it prevents the formation of the next generation middle class. If they can’t get a foot in the door, and earn their way up, they can’t accumulate the wealth-producing assets that traditionally has given the middle class the luxury of thinking for itself while proudly resisting being suck ups to the government.

        Short answer is, they want us all unemployed, homeless and hungry. Because it makes us dependent on the tyrant. Because their ultimate goal is our extermination.

        • Bingo John!

        • “Because their ultimate goal is our extermination”

          And they’re hoping to get us to do all the work…

      38. I’m going to throw a story out there, just because I feel like posting up something positive in this thread. It comes from somebody I know personally and it’s happening RIGHT NOW:

        A woman living in my area who came from another country. Bad childhood, bad ex husband. One child. No resources. If I said she signed up for welfare, food stamps and Medicaid you would not be surprised. But she didn’t.

        Somehow, somewhere along the way, she recognized that those things are a government TRAP. They help in the short term but hold you back later. She refuses to take government assistance of any kind. I and a few business associates and friends of mine do what we can to give her a hand UP, not a handOUT. Found her a cheap apartment, bought her a dress to go to job interviews. Pennies to us, but resources she needs if she’s going to have a run at this.

        Few weeks later she’s got a job paying $8/hr. walking distance from her apartment (and someplace to look after her little girl while she’s working).

        Few months later she tells us “I found a better job”. $16/hr. Beat out 12 oher people to get it. DOUBLE the pay! But short driving distance, not walking distance. She’s borrowing a car temporarily, but says she’s got enough saved up to pay for a cheap used car, does anyone have one to sell? Again, NOT a hand-out. She wants to pay a fair price. My mother-in-law is ready to trade in her 17 year old Pontiac so she offers it up for $1000. Sold. Now she’s got her own wheels.

        I can’t tell you any more of the story because that’s where things are as of 5 hours ago. How will it turn out? Couldn’t tell you. But what I CAN tell you is that she has made a lot of friends who respect what she’s trying to do WITHOUT taking a government hand-out. She’s done more with the small help we’ve given her than probably tens of throusands of dollars of welfare could ever accomplish.

        Americans have been down-and-out before. But I’ve never seen so many Americans who are so…. hopeless. Like their spirit has been broken or something. Watch a single mother from another country with NOTHING plugging forward and gaining some measure of success is, I think, one of the little things that reminds me that not all is lost.

        • Good one! :)I wish her the best!

      39. Over at the Daily Sheeple, Michelle Obama gets to call the younger people KNUCKLE HEADS. Yes, to the same people who put her husband in power.

        Sounds like Michelle knows what is good for the youth of our country. The youth have no Idea they are being insulted!

        I hope the Moose and the Pale Cow stumble into a pit that they can not extricate themselves from, by any means.

      40. We just had a X solar flare first one in quite a while!! Hope its not a preview!! Where is JOG??

        • @ Thinker. That would have caused some problems if it had been Earth facing being an X-5. An X-5 flare is like a category 2 hurricane in comparison. That area will rotate into view in a couple of days and be Earth facing in a few days. The area will likely calm down by then. It does prove that the Sun is still more than capable of throwing off something that can hit the planet with an EMP.

          • GOOD!
            I hope it zaps us!

          • Thanks BI; I just hope we all might get a warning, and are as ready as possible,of the myriad of all the thing that are coming!! Sometimes it can be overwhelming if thought about too much??

      41. How much is the spicy hot chicken dead sandwich going to cost Windy… All to plan.

        Still waiting on the truck load of tomato seeds Okie. That’s a lot of green house.

      42. OK, so raise the wage to $20 and hour, but get rid of the illegals and the anchor babies, first. Then we’ll pay the wage to Americans citizens.

      43. When will all you people wise up and realize that the Federal Government knows how to spend your money better than you. Or how to protect our mother earth by regulating wood stoves, or to increase electric bills by regulating coal. Or how to catch drug cartels by giving them assault weapons, while protect us from ourselves by banning the same weapons. Or tell us what is morally right and make it a crime when we disagree with homo lifestyles. Or by helping people by making them life long dependents on our tax dollars. Or, or, or, or, or……..
        Come on people! I can not understand why you continue to complain 🙂

      44. I disagree with the premise that hiking the minimum wage is doing the exact opposite of what is intended by causing mass layoffs… I think that’s exactly what our current Glorious Leader wants. If it’s bad for the country, he is for it. If it hurts all the people he pretends to support, then he will do it. The man is a liar and a purposeful deceiver. No one is this incompetent. No one is this unaware of how a free economy works and self regulates with supply and demand. He is utterly lawless and holds everything he claims to value in deep contempt. We ( the corporate we, not each of us individually )have been given, twice now, what we richly deserve. A “leader” utterly devoid of a true love and respect for God, country or the Constitution. Think what you will, believe what you like; but for me and my house; we will serve the Lord. This man is here, I think, because it is the beginning of the coming end. There is no way he should have won another turn, in fact, I don’t believe that he did. But there he is. Why ? Perhaps God is using him to prepare the way for what is to come. But “WE” are in deep, deep trouble.. probably the most that WE have ever been in.

        Folks.. we do need to pray.. asking that God’s will would be done. It’s sometimes hard to pray that with honesty.. a dying man may pray that his life would be spared.. but you know ? Everyone dies and living might prove to be the greater sorrow. It’s best to pray that God’s will would be done. The old series ” Father knows best ” comes to mind and couldn’t be more appropriate in this time..

      45. The government’s fix to prevent job loss will be to make it illegal to fire someone because of the minimum wage hike. Just like the recent IRS regulation that you can’t let someone go because of obamacare.

        • Illegal??? So pay the penalty.

      46. Losing 1 million or more jobs, means what?

        It means an increase in the number of people who will then jump onto the social entitlement system in order to avoid starving to death.

        Which benefits who?

        Answer: The filthy, stinking, greasy, diabolically evil Communist cockroaches who represent the DEMOCRAT PARTY, since they are the party of PARASITES, BLOODSUCKERS AND LEECHES.

        See how easy it is to connect the dots when your head is on the outside of your rectum?

      47. So they raise the minimum wage, that’s fine. Next the retailers raise their prices to cover the higher wages. So basically it puts them back where they started. The minimum wage earners are still below the real poverty line. The trick is, the government won’t recognize that poverty line so they can so they can take those people off the subsidies and save more money for themselves.

      48. I live in a mountain valley, where businesses are folding because the owners cannot make payroll as things stand. One worked 14 hour days, running a small diner with his wife. They could not afford any employee at minimum wage, and still went under. There are many homeless former construction workers in the area, with no employment at any wage. Raising minimum wage in a depression is typical Communist central-planning, intended to fail. When will Obama send SEALS into the Cayman Islands, and seize all bank records? That should lead to a few trillion in taxes, and breathe life into the economy with a tax-credit to every citizen.

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