This report was originally published by Daniel McAdams at the Ron Paul Institute
The media reports that some 14,000 people are marching from Honduras through Guatemala through Mexico to the US. They are supposed to arrive just in time for the US election in early November. Is this a political stunt? A genuine mass migration? What are the factors that may have led to such an event and what should we do about it? Troops on the border? Tune in to today’s Liberty Report:
Shoot the SOB with the bullhorn and the rest of the cockroaches will turn tail & head south. Where is Seal Team America when you need them ???
Amateurs left an explosive device for Soros that was diffused. If the CIA was working for the American People and our US Constitution, they would have taken out the leadership of this invasion force long ago !!! 🙁
It is totally political. In fairness, we’ve been meddling in Latin America’s affairs for so long that a little turnaround is justified.
Fuck you Brian
They sure don’t mind our damn money. I feed my family and 30 over seas.
We need to stop ALL aid and just tell them how capitalism, in its true form, not the perverted FDR, Johnson, Carter, clinton, Obama socialist version that DOESN’T EVER WORK, IS DONE!!!
Its easy if the takers and eater communists don’t get a chance to pervert it.
Fuck you Brian.
If our feckless incompetent fully-dysfunctional government has been meddling in South America SO MUCH [insert plenty of whinny Progressive Socialist Democrat snowflake whining here], then why aren’t the caravans going the other way?
Close the borders. Stop ALL immigration until the U.S. government gets back to the Rule of Law and legal immigration policies.
Just stop all free benefits to ALL immigrants.
What is justified is Napalm. Air Fuel munitions.
Daisy cutters. Air to mud air support assets. Call out the Marines, take direct action if the crowd refuses to disperse in peace.
Stop the Invasion using any and ALL means available.
Texas-Arizona-California, should call ALL citizens to arms, to defend the National Soveriegnty of the United States of America. This is our country.
******The Caravan crowd are INVADERS.
Texas has the Castle Law. Texans can, do, and have, defended themselves against home intruders with deadly force.
USA should defend our home country with deadly force if necessary.
Use tear gas while they are on Mexican side of border.
Have PA system instruct crowd that deadly force will be used if crowd not dispersed peacefully.
Follow through. Stop the invaders.
I respect all life, all of god’s creatures. But if a tresspassing rattlesnake will not leave my property peacefully. If the rattler refuses to get into a 5 gallon bucket to be safely relocated, unharmed.
Then rattler MUST be dispatched with a shovel. My family, children, livestock, dogs, will NOT deal with the rattler. I have in the past and will do. Without hesitation. It is a man’s responsibility to protect his own. No matter how distasteful the action required is. What is necessary must be done. Regretful with sadness but necessary.
If President Trump requires men at arms, Texans will make themselves available for service and defense of our nation. These invaders would be wise to understand that
EVERY Texan is armed. Even down to the 12 year old girls in Texas. My daughter is the sharpshooter in the family. Her young eyes are more accurate than mine. Daughter asked for a pink AR with scope for her birthday. “I suggested toys or a new bike.” She was insistent and said, “it was her birthday and knew what she wanted.”
Any guess as to what she recieved?
These Invaders will not come on our place. Texas has the castle law. Comprende hombres?
You want to murder innocent human beings for crossing an imaginary line?
The ‘imaginary line’ is only imaginary to one-world, open borders socialist liberals. To loyal Americans it is a tangible line, which should be protected and treasured. If it wasn’t for that ‘imaginary line,’ I guess that’d make me a Mexican or a Canadian.
Hundreds of thousands of TRUE Americans have died to defend this nation! These people are INVADERS and need to be treated as such. That means all means necessary including killing them. Which is not same as murder! They know they are invading and breaking our laws and they don’t care. Send a message to all that we will not tolerate invaders> Call to arms for all on the borders and shoot on sight!!!!!!!!!
They are not innocent. They are invaders. The line is not imaginary but your discernment is.
You’re an idiot! They are not innocent. They are invading the USA. WTF don’t you get about that you brainless socialist!
Innocent? Imaginary line? You sir need an education.
My property is mine. My locked door is not “imaginary”. A door is to keep the uninvited on the outside.
Border crossing checkpoints manned by the US Border Patrol are not imaginary. Border crossings are for the Safety and Security of Americans living on this side of that border door.
Criminals, drugs, weapons of mass destruction, are stopped by the hard working men and ladies of the Coast Guard, Border Patrol, and other US agencies. They do the best they can with thier limited resources/man power. God Bless them All that protect the US Borders. They have my FULL support, respect, and gratitude.
Anyone who violates my door or crawls through a window is considered a threat to my family. They are not “innocent”. They are a potentially dangerous intruder. They will either leave IMMEDIATLY as directed in a peacful manner. Or they will be carried out in a bag. No one is allowed to kick in the door and endanger the family without consequences.
MS 13 members are NOT “innocent” human beings.
Drug runners are NOT “innocent” human beings.
China soldiers, Iran soldiers, blending in to a crowd are not “innocent”. All are enemy combatants. Real threats to national security. Legitimate targets.
Invaders MUST be stopped by ANY/ALL means available.
EVERYTHING should be used to stop an invasion.
If they don’t want to die. Knock on the front door. Come in through the Border Patrol points of entry. Procedures are there for a reason.
Protect your Home, Family, Nation. Real Simple.
Any man not willing to take action to protect his family is a disgrace. To hell with calling INVADERS “dreamers” or “innocent”.
— School is out.
In the US military Flight Lines there is a painted “red line” on the flight line where planes are located. It is only paint. No fence. No wall. If you cross that red painted line and by-pass authorized entry points. Armed Security Police are authorized to put your face in the deck or bullet in your head. No matter your Rank. Therefore people seldom “break red line”, not even high ranking officers. Red Line is a good policy and works.
The Border of the USA should have the same “red line” policy. “Break Red Line” and face in the dirt by armed SP or bullet in the head. Man, woman, child, follow the rules or pay the price.
What do you think?
Hey Jasper, how many of them will you take into your home?
Invaders are NOT “innocent human beings”.
If you are so interested in living with communists, MOVE
All nations “meddle.” If you don’t like the way America meddles then relocate to another country. There are 173 other countries to choose from. Goodbye Brian.
Sick of these pussies trying to justify this invasion! Israel has been pressed/killed by outsiders and have responded accordingly and very effectively! This is the type of response we need to institute for our beleaguered nation.
Shoot after all other means have failed!!! SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE!!
I’ve lived much of my life in San Mateo, Hermosa Beach, and San Diego. Brian, your comment is total BS. Have you burned an American flag lately? I wouldn’t be surprised.
The illegal immigration problem could be ended easily with one simple law: No government benefits of any kind will be given to anyone who has ever entered the United States illegally and no government agency will be allowed to provide any free services of any kind to any person not legally residing in the United States.
Bingo. We don’t need a fricken wall to stop them from coming in.
Withholding ANY taxpayer subsidized bennies will not completely stop illegals from coming here. There are lots of people willing to provide work and even housing to many because it’s cheap labor. Laws concerning these issues MUST be enforced (cause they’re already on the books) as well as immediate deportation for anyone who is identified as illegally being here. The drugs that come here and the human trafficking problems need to be addressed as well. This is a big problem and unless something as big is employed to deal with it, saying it’ll get worse is an understatement. The wall, E-verify, eliminate government subsidies, prosecute the people who provide housing and money for labor, immediate deportation (no hearings, court dates or judicial reviews) and the death penalty for drug/ human trafficking for starters. I’m not an expert on posse commitatus but I don’t see any violations if fed troops are deployed to protect our borders. I pray that not one soul is lost but the people who advocate this criminal conduct don’t care how many of those poor dupes die as long as their agenda and ideals are fulfilled. I respect human life as being absolutely priceless but these politicians see human life as being expendable and use those lives as pawns to accomplish their goals. We live in a sick and twisted world and it’s gonna get worse before it gets better. Keep your guard up
We just need us! So they are coming into San Diego?? Thank you for the gathering site. Got to pack. See you there.
But because we have feckless, cowardly politicians we now have a situation where we MUST defend our sovereign borders WITH FORCE!!
If these mealy mouth communist politicians don’t stop em at the river we the people need to enact citizen arrests oF EVERY DAMN ONE of them. Try, Convict, and jail or execute every damn one for treason and espionage!!
RULE OF LAW you political bastards!!!
joe schmoe, most people have no idea citizens arrest is very real and on your side in most states.
With just a few tweeks in our laws and we get the political will, we could easily solve all of the illegal alien problems we see today. Consider with those tweeks if our government authorizes a bounty on illegal aliens arrest and detainment to be deported. All of the problems would be solved easily and in short order with very little cost as the government would incur if they accomplished it. It would only take a small number of arrest and most would flee to wherever they came from and the illegals would realize we are quite serious ! It is clear our laws and congress protect these criminals and that is what must change. And it is very possible to accomplish.
Trump can declare a national emergency of illegal invasion and create a zone along the border as a no go barrier and then enforce it by arresting any who violate it and deport them immediately with zero legal access. The big lie and distortion is that these people actually have ZERO legal rights here in USA. Only legal citizens have those rights and that has been diluted and grossly distorted.
All of the above can happen if and when we have the political will to do so ! Just one more reason why this election is a critical election.
For you morons that don’t vote as some form of protest, you are voting for the DEM/DSA by proxy dipshits !
I urge everyone to research the citizens arrest laws in your own state. Most of you will be very surprised and glad you did. Then we simply need to get fit and strong, both mentally and physically to carry out the necessary actions going forward. That means training in every aspect !
You also shut down these sanctuary cities. Arrest the governors of these states. You arrest these mayors that are registering illegals to vote as fast as they get across the US border.
You declare these unelected rogue billionaires, like George Soros, enemies of the state. You confiscate all of their assets. Revoke their passports and visas. And deport their asses.
You do the same to any companies, apartment complex managers, landlords who provide housing to illegals.
In the United States of American you make English the common language. Press one or two is reduced to none.
Federal Immigration and National Act of 1952 through Congress in the closing days of his administration. Under Section 8 USC 1324[a](1)(A)[iv][b](iii) any US citizen that knowingly assists an illegal alien, provides them with employment, food, water or shelter has committed a felony. City, county or State officials that declare their jurisdictions to be “Open Cities, Counties or States are subject to arrest; as are law enforcement agencies who chose not to enforce this law. Police officers who ignore officials who violate Section 8 USC 1324[a](1)(A)[iv][b](iii) are committing a Section 274 federal felony.
I read the Federal Immigration and National Act to mean that if you live in a city, county or State that refuses to enforce the law for whatever reason, the officials making those rules are financially liable for any crime committed within their jurisdiction by an illegal alien.”
We need to call up a *Grand Jury which is a tool of the PEOPLE of this nation, and the perpetrators put charged with the crimes they have committed against the American people and against the state(s) involved, against our nation, perform arrests, and after a *Grand Jury Investigation (another of the PEOPLE’S tools), put them on trial!
*Grand Jury – “The grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right. In fact the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people”.
“Thus, citizens have the unbridled right to empanel their own grand juries and present “True Bills” of indictment to a court, which is then required to commence a criminal proceeding. Our Founding Fathers presciently thereby created a “buffer” the people may rely upon for justice, when public officials, including judges, criminally violate the law.” (Misbehavior, “Good Behaviour” requirement)
“The grand jury is an institution separate from the courts, over whose functioning the courts do not preside, we think it clear that, as a general matter at least, no such “supervisory” judicial authority exists. The “common law” of the Fifth Amendment demands a traditional functioning grand jury.”
“Although the grand jury normally operates, of course, in the courthouse and under judicial auspices, its institutional relationship with the judicial branch has traditionally been, so to speak, at arm’s length. Judges’ direct involvement in the functioning of the grand jury has generally been confined to the constitutive one of calling the grand jurors together and administering their oaths of office. The grand jury’s functional independence from the judicial branch is evident both in the scope of its power to investigate criminal wrongdoing, and in the manner in which that power is exercised.”
“The grand jury ‘can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated, or even because it wants assurance that it is not.’ It need not identify the offender it suspects, or even “the precise nature of the offense” it is investigating. The grand jury requires no authorization from its constituting court to initiate an investigation, nor does the prosecutor require leave of court to seek a grand jury indictment. And in its day-to-day functioning, the grand jury generally operates without the interference of a presiding judge. It swears in its own witnesses and deliberates in total secrecy.”
“Recognizing this tradition of independence, we have said the 5th Amendment’s constitutional guarantee presupposes an investigative body ‘acting independently of either prosecuting attorney or judge”.
“Given the grand jury’s operational separateness from its constituting court, it should come as no surprise that we have been reluctant to invoke the judicial supervisory power as a basis for prescribing modes of grand jury procedure. Over the years, we have received many requests to exercise supervision over the grand jury’s evidence-taking process, but we have refused them all. “it would run counter to the whole history of the grand jury institution” to permit an indictment to be challenged “on the ground that there was incompetent or inadequate evidence before the grand jury.” (Nor would it be lawful of them to do so.) Justice Antonin Scalia writing for the majority said In the Supreme Court case of United States v. Williams, 112 S.Ct. 1735, 504 U.S. 36, 118 L.Ed.2d 352 (1992)
Also, the US Constitution assigns to duty to repel invasions to the Militia of the several states. Who are the Militia of the several states? They are the PEOPLE of that state that bothered to be trained as the Congress requires the military to be trained, and well-read of the US Constitution, and of their own state’s Constitution.
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.“
This clause is very straightforward, it is the militia of each state is entrusted with the defense of the USA and her people, not just with the defense of their state; and they are to be trained and armed with weapons that can repel any invasions bearing modern weapons of war. That if it turns into a war that requires a military, THEN, and only them, can the military be called upon LAWFULLY to defend our borders. Until that happens, and today with those who are not real Americans being everywhere, while real Americans are fewer, that would probably happen (calling forth the military). But not if all veterans trained their neighbors, friends, people of the area in which they lived, and IF they would bother to know the US Constitution that they are Oath Bound to “support and defend”.
As US Armed Forces (Ret.) and AZ Peace Officer (Ret.), a lifetime in the trenches, I commend your comment Anon. To think or act otherwise is to have spent your life not simultaneously awake and conscious.
It’s NOT just the government! It is businesses and individuals who hire them, rent homes to them, and supply them with food. If ALL individuals or businesses that provide jobs, housing, or any aid to an illegal were prosecuted and bankrupted it would stop over night and all illegals would leave because they could NOT survive here!
Build that damn wall, honor your oath to protect our country, borders and constitution, any or all of yall who dont need to be eradicated,
If you stand for this you will kneel for anything.
What Oath????? their Oath is to booze and pensions and that is as far as it goes for the drunken bums sworn to a FANTASY and LIE!!!!
I’d wager nothing happens, and they all walk over the border, and disappear into the country. They will produce more criminals, rapists, murderers, anchor babies, chain migration, ad-nauseum.
When Reagan said “this is a one-time amnesty”, anyone with a brain should have figured out, that nothing would be done to stop the endless third-world invasion.
And, yes, it IS an invasion. It should be seen for what it is: An ACT OF WAR, against Western Civilization, and a demographic ACT OF WAR, against the White race. The America you knew has been hijacked, and destroyed from within.
And will make sure that their other mud brethren get elected and give our money to them. I hope that hurricane plowing into Mixico drowns em all.
That’s what I was thinking. Wouldn’t it be grand if the hurricane hit at the moment they, illegal aliens, reached that area of Mexico.
You are exactly right. A lot of this is funded thru the United Nations, who has said they want to make the world “Mocha”, meaning elimination of the white race.
This is an invasion and a stand must be made!
Plus it (border fence) was already paid for ad REQUIRED to be built back when Bush served as US President.
SECURE FENCE ACT OF 2006. Ratified by Congress, signed into law in 2006. (Oct 26, 2006 signed by G. Bush) Supported and voted for by Dems & Repubs. DHS received 1.2 Billion to fund the wall that was never built. Where is the money? So why was this already planned in, voted for, funded but not built wall used to agitate the people?
“This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure. It is an important step toward immigration reform.” President George W. Bush, 10/26/06
Today, President Bush Signed The Secure Fence Act – An Important Step Forward In Our Nation’s Efforts To Control Our Borders And Reform Our Immigration System. Earlier this year, the President laid out a strategy for comprehensive immigration reform. The Secure Fence Act is one part of this reform, and the President will work with Congress to finish the job and pass the remaining elements of this strategy.
The Secure Fence Act Builds On Progress Securing The Border
By Making Wise Use Of Physical Barriers And Deploying 21st Century Technology, We Can Help Our Border Patrol Agents Do Their Job And Make Our Border More Secure.
The Secure Fence Act:
Authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along our Southern border;
Authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help prevent people from entering our country illegally;
Authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce our infrastructure at the border.
Comprehensive Immigration Reform Begins With Securing The Border. Since President Bush took office, we have:
More than doubled funding for border security – from $4.6 billion in 2001 to $10.4 billion this year;
Increased the number of Border Patrol agents from about 9,000 to more than 12,000 – and by the end of 2008, we will have doubled the number of Border Patrol agents since the President took office;
Deployed thousands of National Guard members to assist the Border Patrol;
Upgraded technology at our borders and added infrastructure, including new fencing and vehicle barriers;
Apprehended and sent home more than 6 million people entering America illegally; and
We are adding thousands of new beds in our detention facilities, so we can continue working to end “catch and release” at our Southern border.
This Act Is One Part Of Our Effort To Reform Our Immigration System, And We Have More Work To Do “
you have spewed the same hot air for years. easy when you live off a trust fund.
It’s time to use some of those sci-fi weapons we’ve actually got. The ADS – active denial system – for instance. It’s already been well-tested, works and would be perfect in this case. As would the LED Incapacitator/Bedazzler (puke weapon). Our military and/or law enforcement already has some/them. Use them. Turn that ‘caravan’ around sick as dogs and feeling like they’ve been set on fire.
Trump better put up or shut up. This is his defining moment in immigration.
I predict he will stop this. I don’t know what method he will use, but he must know how base will not tolerate him being soft on this invasion.
Like it or not, it will be the Courts that end up deciding what will be done with them (the invaders).
And they have already established a history of deciding against him all the way up o the USSC where he gets some degree of victory, but that comes after many months when the issue will have become mostly moot since it has already taken place and they are here with no real chance of sending them back.
Does anyone of you understand or even KNOW what our government is, what powers and authority was DELEGATED? ARGHHHHHHHH!
READ at least the pocket Constitution, and then go read your own state’s Constitution. We are NOT UNDER A KING, he is a REPRESENTATIVE of the people placed into a position with duties already written down for that Office.
They’re not walking 2000 miles! They’re being driven. They get out for photo propaganda and then mount back up. Where is the logistical support? Where is the truthful media? Who’s paying for this? Think!
You nailed it, HIM. Nobody, poor and destitute, walks 1,000+ plus miles in flip flops without manor financial backing. Find out who’s funding them and go after THEM! Soros, Clinton Scam Foundation come to mind?
This is a totally political/media contrived event, using willingly paid dupes to advance the global control ideology of the globalist elites. Out of chaos comes profits and control. Same old story, same old fools that buy it in the MSM.
The churches are the biggest funders of this scum. Millions of dollars of your tyth goes to helping these scumbags. They are also the ones that help them get all of their handouts once they arrive.
Jas: It is not just the tithing. Lutheran World Relief along with similar organizations of Baptists and Catholics are NGOs which are GIVEN our tax dollars to take in these disease-ridden human parasites.
Remember “the children” coming in droves across the southern border in 2014? These same NGOs were right there taking them in and relocating them throughout flyover country, courtesy of Barry Sotero and our tax money. And of course our “fair and balanced” journalists did nothing about the stories of the white children infected with the “mysterious respiratory ailments” when these wetbacks were placed in schools.
This is it. We are on the cusp or tipping point of an invasion by a hostile army which will be used as pawns by Soros and the other Marxists and NWO types to foment a full-on civil war. I am no more immune to the coming troubles here in Northern Idaho than if I was still living in SoCal. Trump better act quickly and decisively or he and the Dead Elephant Party are toast. Our backs are to the wall. Get prepped and stay vigilant.
Baptists have nothing whatsoever to do with this.
Stuart: In 2014, the Baptists from Baylor University, a Baptist College were standing right down on the border with the other NGO church groups, welcoming these disease-ridden Lemmings into the country. I saw it with my own eyes. And, it was reported in numerous news stories. Do your research.
The Catholic Charities are turning Upstate New York into a Soweto ghetto. We have black Adidas walking the roads, streets and highways here in Rochester, NY.
The Pope and the Catholic Church need to be told to stick to religion or be shutdown. The Pope, the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Charities are engaging in nation building — by destroying the United States first. This must stop.
The Catholic Charities get them here, then the Cuomo Mafia Family takes over. Lavishing housing, food, clothing, and New York State taxpayer dollars in illegals. All because Governor Andrew Cuomo is a Progressive Socialist Democrat. The Cuomo Family Mafia has been in control of New York State since the 1980s. This must stop.
All of this must be stopped.
where are they in Rochester?
the UN and the globalists/communists are behind this.
Boomers will let each and every one of them in.
Wait and see.
Your daughters will give them sex and your monuments will be rubble. Your sons will bow to Islam.
Baby Boomer soy boys.
Eis, go blow a dog, fat boy.
I second that…
I second that…
I gots a bad feeling Eisenkraut ain’t too far off the mark knowing how lazy and stupid most folks really are.
I agree. No matter how distasteful his words, you cannot escape the truth of them. History shows everything he has said is true of invaded countries.
Yup, you may not like his delivery of the message but he is on the right track. Plan accordingly.
Kreutz, stop blaming the boomers. Most of us have nothing to do with these messes. I know I work, raise my kids and don’t have any extra time on my hands to make these problems for you. I’m guessing that most boomers are the same. Blame these politicians, they cause these problems, not us boomers. Unlike most in here, I always liked you. You’re not afraid to speak your mind, although I don’t agree with you on some things (one of my boys is mixed race) You’re smart, you’re tough and you don’t apologize for anything, sometimes you’re just an ass. Don’t be an ass
Eisenkreutz, may all your children under your roof being yours or not eat Pork the rest of their days…..
Testosterone-charged ‘Patriots’, with a stroke of a pen your Bill of Rights was destroyed by your beloved Republican’s NDAA. Not one shot was fired. Not one word was said about Civil War 2. That was 7-1/2 years ago.
That’s the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard. Here’s a news flash for you, this boomer bows to no one. Certainly not a goat humping pervert who’s only claim to fame is wandering through the sand pile until he could find his own arse. Texas has a motto, Come And Take It, this Texan will go one better, and date ya to Come Get Some.
I will dip my rounds in pigs blood and eat hotdogs wrapped in bacon over the Koran and your graves you sick, bowing loser.
Declare martial, thereby suspending most civil rules. including catch and release.
Send armed soldiers out with tie wraps and arrest anybody that crosses the border, shoot any groups attacking the soldiers. Bind everyones up feet and hands.
Fly them out to anyone one of several emergency airfields in Honduras.
Leave them some MREs, water, and leave them there. Cut one of the young kids lose and give him a pair of tie cutters where he could free his mom and let her decide what to do.
That will explode in rage across the US just like Bill Connors in Birmingham, Alabama.
Use “Political” martial arts redirecting the energy.
First , this is all timed for the election so from that perspective take that stage show away from the liberal by “out- liberal” them.
1. Send the National Guard to the border. Tell Mexico that the US is sending humanitarian aid, food, water, tents, rudimentary medial care across the border. If Mexico says your violating our sovereignty who cares, LIVES ARE AT STAKE; pound that message in, repeat it, repeat it, repeat it. Tell the press that the US is going to interview each family, “without separation”, to determine if they have true political asylum status (drag your feet on this).
2. Challenge the do-gooders in Hollywood to cough up some money matching Trump generous personal donation. “Put up or shut up”. Challenge and embarrass the political left for “not caring”.
3. Announce that the US will redirect the foreign aid given to the countries of origin to pay for this “Humanitarian Necessity” because its obvious that said nations are irresponsible in this allowing this crisis to occur.
The above will defuse all of the talking points the “Progressives” are attempting to use. The goal isn’t these refugees but to sway public opinion for the med term election.
The illegal immigrants, like ants, will go to where the food and shelter is. Put this “care facility” (not detention camp) in an area where its most inhospitable on the US side dissuading crossing.
“That will explode in rage across the US just like Bill Connors in Birmingham, Alabama. ” Bull Connors was attacking American citizens not alien criminals.
“The illegal immigrants, like ants, will go to where the food and shelter is. Put this “care facility” (not detention camp) in an area where its most inhospitable on the US side dissuading crossing.”
Don’t you mean the Mexican side, unless you suspend the laws it will be catch and release, once they are on American soil. Unless you declare Martial law then you can detain them until you can find a progressive Federal judge.
Lastly, it is a fools errand to think you can reason with un- reasonable people. Democrat Elites are not reasonable people. What happens in the upcoming elections has already been decided.
In-action on the part of Trump is the only variable at this point.
Most democraps period are un reasonable, most, not all, but enough that the best thing to do is sit back with your popcorn, watch the show and laugh loudly when it all falls down on their heads,
And it will fall down, you can bet on it
I stated that the US should send food, medical supplies and tents across the border. Later saying is should be in an area “most inhospitable on the US side dissuading crossing”. If there is any confusion I apologize for a lack of clarity. Put them in an area where they gravitate to that is most difficult to get across. Supply them food there. Screen for “real refugees that qualify for political asylum”. Expose all the criminal types you catch in the mix. After the mid terms you, “make adjustments” to the above plan. The goal here is public opinion swaying the fence sitters in the Mid Terms. Trump isn’t campaigning for Cruise and others because, “What happens in the upcoming elections has already been decided.” This baby is up for grabs.
” Democrat Elites are not reasonable people. ”
No kidding. They’re not your target audience. The fence sitting public is and seeing the US use military force on women and children, regardless if they are not US, won’t sit well. A good percentage of people looked at US blacks as being sub human but Bull Conners acts, on film, swayed a lot of public opinion.
The actions you propose play right into the “Democrat Elites” hands with an overly compliant MSM. Think this timing with the mid terms is coincidental?
I don’t care if their freaking shithole country fell into the ocean. They ain’t coming here. Not anymore.
Death Valley or White Sands Middle Test Range sounds appropriate, any one attempting to leave the area, shot on sight. We have to make it so as they understand that even going to prison will be a death sentence, because like so many of these other countries, it would have to be their family who brings them good and water. No family, you starve. As long as an American prison provides better living conditions than their home countries, it will never stop.
First off, we actually do have immigration LAWS, they are in writing, they are REQUIRED to be followed by all who SERVE WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENTS.
These invasions are NOT LAWFUL whatever reason is touted for their coming here to America.
“Martial law” nor “emergency powers” are also NOT LAWFUL here in the USA, in our constitutional republic(s)[remember each state’s government is a constitutional republic also.]
“The people or sovereign are not bound by general word in statutes, restrictive of prerogative right, title or interest, unless expressly named. Acts of limitation do not bind the King or the people. The people have been ceded all the rights of the King, the former sovereign, …It is a maxim of the common law, that when an act is made for the common good and to prevent injury, the King shall be bound, though not named, but when a statute is general and prerogative right would be divested or taken from the King (or the people) he shall not be bound.” People v Herkimer, 4 Cowen (NY) 345, 348 (1825)
“The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism.” The Supreme Court of the United States, 1866
“Emergency does not create power. Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the Federal Government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency and they are not altered by emergency.” Home Building & Loan Association v. Blaisdell, 290 U.S. 398, 425 (1934)
James Madison: “Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government, which impartially secures to every man, whatever is his own.”
Try reading and starting to actually understand by direct knowledge what our type of government is, and what those who serve within it are actually ALLOWED to do – it IS in writing for all to know, again, try reading.
I recommend, as did Daniel Webster – his words: “We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land – nor, perhaps, the sun or stars. But there is a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey. That chart is the Constitution.”
A wall may be a solution but it is not practical. The border runs down the middle of the Rio Grande. Farmers on both sides use it to irrigate their crops and water their livestock.
Build it down the middle of the river? Too difficult and even more expensive.
Hard to fix without screwing a bunch of farmers out of their livelihood…
Hundreds and hundreds of alligators,
Alligators would get heart burn. Too much beer and chicheronies.
No wall on the Rio Grande is obvious. Just place more BP assets in that sector. Cannot build a wall on border where Az N.M and Mexico meet either.Big ass mountains there. Geography is a wonderful thing.
If Pres. Trump does not deploy the Military with permission to fire upon invaders then he should step down as President and just sign over the country to the UN. Try to just walk in and demand ssn,healthcare etc… from another country…..even Mexico and see how far you get.
You know the Mexicans would murder a baby then blame Trump and claim the border patrol did it.
No different than Hamas.
Somebody needs to shoot George Soros in the head. The same with all these unelected rogue billionaires like Michael Bloomberg, the Koch Brothers, William Buffett, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos . . . for a start. They are enemies of the people; enemies of the state.
Close the borders. All of them. Shoot to kill. Stop all immigration. Demand that our fully-corrupt, evil, dysfunctional government get its house in order. Use the entire military budget to deport all illegals. Clean house. Deport all illegals from whatever country they are from. The party is over.
The wall can be a combination. It can be an electrified fence in some areas. It can be an actual wall in some areas. And it can be monitored in some areas.
An area exists between the USA and Mexico which is neutral. A barrier can be created in that area. An option exists where a temporary fence around a tent city can be created where migrants can be watered and fed while they are processed.
Say Bub-bye to this country if they get through.
This is an Invasion….if these 3rd world mobs are allowed to break into this country and stay, it’s over for America. It has all come down to this one moment in time. Trump MUST sign an executive order to militarize the border. This is a national security crisis. He absolutely has the power and responsibility to protect this nation from a foreign invasion. The world is watching….and if Trump abrogates his responsibility (to protect and defend the USA and its Constitution), the real invasion will begin. Millions upon millions of central & South American mobs will flow across the border unimpeded. And America will be gone forever.!!!!!
Give 3 warnings after which open fire.
The problem will stop.
If you want to enter this country do it legally.
Say Bub-bye to this nation if they get through.
There will be a 25,000 strong MS-13 Satanist Soro’s Army hitting our Southern Border in a few days and the coward pussy Americans are getting drunker, and drunker, and drunker, and drunker by the day, the American coward pussies know they have ALREADY BEEN CONQUERED, the raping of your women will begin soon by MS-13, and your children will be sold off to the Satanist sodomite pedophiles controlling their MS-13 Army of the most violent humans on earth and they are coming right at damned and doomed New Babylon America!!!!
Tell us about your plan, Ron.
You sir are a complete idiot. Americans aren’t all pisses. Only those on the left. Americans aren’t all drunks either. This one is quite sober, and extremely adept with a number of weapons of self defense. Now I certainly can’t speak for everyone in this country, there are a growing number of snowflakes running around the USA, but it would be up to you to figure out which ones will roll over and quit. For this one in particular, the only easy day was yesterday, and since it’s already a part of history, it can’t be changed. Today and tomorrow are the future, and since I haven’t seen evidence of clairvoyance on your part, I don’t believe your construct of reality.
I’ll drink to that!
The number was recently reported at ~10,000.
My experience with these types, in the public school system and around town:
“You’re much bigger than me. So, you can’t do anything.”
Is globalist, humanitarian intervention triggered, when the fake, Latin American refugees fail to obey the military blockade.
Do they rot in camps, like Palestinians, who will not be repatriated into the surrounding countries, so as to create an ongoing thorn in the side of the West.
The number just grew over-night to over 14,000.
Then, reported at 100,000 by some very frantic person, who is known for his megaphones. I won’t say the name.
If this crowd of 14k invaders isn’t stopped now…. It will be 140k next time. Probably there will be a tsunami of 1.4 million for the 2020 Presidential Elections……
Invade Mexico! Start burning everything south from the Rio Grande! Push them all into the sea!
Minot, North Dakota is a pleasant place to be this time of year especially if you’re from the tropics. Transporting these people to the coldest, most miserable place possible is not an option.
Someone is definitely providing support to them and Mexico will do nothing. The politicians in Mexico are competing to see who can be the most “anti-Trump”. It is all politics. There has been a lot of speculation that this mass migration would start happening and someone is putting it to the test. If it works, they’ll do it over and over. Somehow, this must be made to backfire on Mexico.
Heres an idea, pick them up in box trailers on semis, give em all macdonalds then drive them to the northernmost part of the country and push em over the border north in the middle of the night,,,,
I like that idea. Let the libtard canuks have them. I’m sure they’ll be welcome there.
A second caravan is starting out I hear…
If the first group comes through we will be done in a couple short years as a nation…
First thing the addition of a new voting group to the existing communist/democrat party will do is rescind the 2nd amendment…
There’s a reason they want our guns…
at least 2 more from Honduras …one more from El Salvador forming up now
What other country would allow this fiasco? Stop them at the border or you have no country.
They all allow it now. All of Europe is gone. All of the US. Only Russia and China are nations — because they don’t tolerate unelected, rogue, billionaires like George Soros determining public policy.
This is all a joint effort by the Global Cabal to show Americans that you will be controlled. Russia and China are part of it. The whole political agenda of our political system is to control us and make slaves of us. The only way the “Caravan” will be stopped is if the people of California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas decide to do so. The National Guard being called out will not make a difference, they cannot legally enforce laws and make arrests. The only way this can be done is if the afore mentioned states Governors call out the Guard.
Close the border, start deploying troops. If Mexico does not stop them, then no one comes through the border for any reason. Redirect all aid that would go to any Latin country including Mexico to fund the effort.
This is exactly the kind of job drones were designed for.
The people who are organizing and supporting this caravan want the caravan stopped. When this happens, they will withdraw their support. They want an “humanitarian crisis” that will make Trump look like a heartless soul. Hurricane Willa seems to be headed for them with another hurricane coming after Willa. These people are being used to embarass Trump and influence the mid-term election.
most will be coming to CA., so what will they do with all the poop – san francisco is wadding through a barrage of the smelly stuff as it is – so what do they plan to do
California will export their illegal poop to other states. This is what they are doing with the homeless; putting them on buses and trains with one-way tickets to places like Portland, OR.
Maybe the military should use the non lethal crowd control extremely loud sound projector or the skin stinging devices that should stop the invasion of our border and turn them back.
The only problem there, is any weapon fired across a border is an act of war. Can’t be done without a declaration from Congress. Perhaps a new Mexican/American war is about due. I do find it amusing that so many Northern folks believe this to be a problem only for the border states.
If they are seeking asylum they are supposed to apply in the first country they enter. What they want is to live in the land of the big PX where everything is wonderful and, for them, free. No taxes to pay, government handouts, and up to now there had been no real effort to find illegals nor to keep them out. I like the idea of flying them back to Honduras or Guatemala AFTER biometric collection. Declare martial law on the border, use federal troops, capture all, bus to detention camps in the desert, military tribunals with felony convictions, C-130 flight home. Anyone who emigrates legally should be welcomed. I am in favor of a guest worker program where they can earn money to send home. They cannot, however, bring their family. That would be emigration and rules must be followed.
The terrorist army is not walking. They are being
transported, get out to eat & poop….walk a mile or so,
to the next drop site then ride for next 200 or so miles.
So this is entirely organized by a military type attack.
Those southern countries are no doubt cleaning out
We better pray Trump is willing to call all resources to
cover the entire border. They are climbing the walls in
minutes, like nothing there….like maybe they have
already trained for this trip.
They will probaby scatter at the border, climb over the
fence. Probably, we will need snipers to protect BP.
These are not law abiding people, regardless how sympathetic
those liberal lefties in the MSM news stations try to make you
feel so sorry for them.
Trump is right……the middle section of the stampeders is all
military age men who try to hide their faces,
look like ME, Somalian and African.
We knew this was coming…..don’t look for them to stop.
They are not our responsibility. They don’t respect law
and order……they are, “The Army”, Obuthole told us was bigger
than our army. Which meant it was planned a several years ago.
That man is as Evil as the Devil himself.
It takes a while to ship several million Simalians and Africans
here, already trained.
We need to:
STOP ALL TRANSFERS OF MONEY
TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES LAWS ARE
PASSED TO PREVENT ABUSE.
STOP ALL BORDER CROSSINGS UNTIL PROBLEM
IS SOLVED PERMANENTLY
STOP ALL VISAS AND WORKER PERMITS UNTIL LAWS ARE
PASSED TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.
STOP ANCHOR BABY CITIZESHIP
STOP MEDICAL AND WELFARE ABUSE
NO ILLEGAL BENEFITS
STOP ALL BENEFITS TO DRUG USERS
AND NON ENGLISH SPEAKING PERSONS
STOP CHAIN MIGRATION
STOP FREE EDUCATION FOR NON CITIZENS
CHARGE THEM DOUBLE…..1/2 FOR USA CITIZENS
FREE ONLY TO TOP 10% USA CITIZENS
Make illegal: PROMOTIONS OF COMMUNIST ACTIVITY
Anywhere in public form. Communism is contrary to the
Constitution…and Bill of Rights….and Ten Commandments
Trump will do nothing because Trump serves America’s corporate elite and the corporate elite want cheap labor and they want, in our hypothecated BS financial economy, mouths to feed to monetize for investments. They don’t care about borders, about America, etc. All they care about is money and power.
The United States was created with slave labor. Slaves built the White House.
In the 19TH Century, the Labor Barons ruled the country. They got away with slavery until Americans rose up and threatened to over-throw the whole “raw deal.”
Today the Labor Barons are the Corporate Oligarchs. They are back. They need their slaves. They will have their slaves.
Real Americans have had enough with the sham. 95-million Americans have dropped out of the workforce because they refuse to play this game again.
That’s fine with the oligarchs. They will just replace every single American citizen with these illegals. They will import new slave labor.
Americans must rise up. Eliminate all Corporate Oligarchs and their seed from existence.
Agree. It is decision time for Americans. Be replaced and outsourced by third world people, or form as a nation again and work together as a nation.
The wealthy do not care. To paraphrase, “I care not if he calls himself or herself Mohammed, Jillba, Wong, etc. as long as they work for a dollar a day and buy my products”.
‘The Caravan’ is a black flag. It has the potential of becoming this generation’s ‘Cuban Missile Crisis’ with casualties as great as 9/11.
Where will they try to cross?
California became a sanctuary state in October 2017. Governor Brown could authorize (albeit illegally) the California National Guard to defend the 5,000 illegals against federal troops.
Or maybe Eisenkreutz will be right….
California cannot support all these illegals. California will just ship the illegals illegally to other states. California must be taken down. Destroy California. End Governor Moonbeam. Conduct open air executions of the lawbreakers in Sacramento.
The march to America and the nov election will be the nail in our coffin, if the March is not stopped and the RED WAVE does get out to vote.
The military better be sent to stop these violent, low-IQ knuckle-draggers.
And use deadly force if necessary.
That’s why it’s called a BORDER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Trump does not deploy ARMED and AMMO equipped troops,we are toast. And deploy Navy Seabees and combat engineers to put up some kind of temporary fence. He CAN do this without approval of some asshat judge.And it wont take a whole lot of money,either. Take it out of training funds that every military unit has. And think of the training the troops will get.
Send in the drones.
The problem here is welfare payments are not a problem! Welfare forever for the 20,000 or so is chump change for the government. (with the Trump economy millions of welfare recipients already have gotten jobs and off welfare) The problem truly is exactly WHO in the USA is going to have to put up with the refugees! What schools are going to have the non-English speaking children, what medical facilities are going to have to find room for all the new sick people. (who don’t pay) Which prison (already overcrowded to capacity) is going to have to find more room. On and on. The hidden cost, not just the welfare payments, is the true problem.
See, and I think the welfare system is already maxed out. I don’t think the welfare system can handle one more freeloader.
We are seeing this already in California. Just in Los Angeles there are over 55,000 homeless American citizens. 20-percent of these homeless are veterans.
What is happening is California is abandoning these American citizens to support all these illegals. The media won’t report on it, so who is going to know?
And the prisons? The United States has more prisons and more prisoners than any other country in recorded history. Where are they going to house everybody; in all these shutdown Walmarts and Sam’s Clubs? Those are FEMA camps.
They wont all come to one spot. We need military and Federal enforcement, state and local LEO, & Militia. Across our boarder and Repel the invaders with Rubber Bullets, Tear Gas, fear if need be. And Riot poilce tactics, followed by lethal force. This is a Sovereign Nation! If Mexico dont hold them or repel them and we deal with them, mexico must pay financially, with redacted Jobs, south America by redacted aid. These invaders are from Guatemala, and Honduras going through a Military allied nation who benifits from USA. This Force as Gandalf said, Shall Not Pass!! Its a Threat!
Even Guatemalan Authorities caught 100 ISIS terrorists marching with the caravan AND 1,000 “gangbanger” criminals, including MS-13!
President Trump had warned that this caravan posed a real threat to America because of the numbers of criminals mingled in. And its True.
But, RINO Senator Jeff Flake criticized the President, saying he had no right to bring this criminal infestation to our attention. But we should know, and be wary. If this Caravan hoard gets to Texas or Arizona and say im a refugee, i seek asylum! They might fill out some papers, and be given a Court date and let loose in America, never to report to Court Date. Hate Guns, take many of our low pay jobs our 16yo would take. They would be a threat to citizens of USA, and influencing our politics, refusing to learn English, Press 2 for english! I wonder why! This many unknowns is a population of a large Town, a city suburb!! Porta Ricans came huge in # after the Hurricane, Cubano cause of fidel, and 10k+ from mexico boarder isnt acceptable. Now more (Why cant we sometimes just take only European, not muslims, not Latino, not oriental?)
Get a Limited green card and court date. The card expires, dont go to court. Some are plain rejected and Sent back on our dime, & we don’t see reimbursement.. then some are used for information on cartels and put in Witsec. Some are jailed, some repeat criminal acts or terror. Its Same shit different time. and this time with more people! I think sometimes they keep the kids seperate so the adult do background checks..
And once in many go to Miami and California cause of sanctuary Citys. .
This is the USA Nation! Some of these adults dont speak English or have a high school education.. and they come Illegally! I say Enough! Southern Gate entry Closed, no more!! You fly in maybe..
Sick of this Latin wave.
Its confusing They think they are entited to be in America, but are not entitled to anything in USA.
I’m going back to bed…..tell me when it’s over.
and I used to travel to ND for a good shoot ……..
A close relative says they should be welcomed at the
California border and then shut in for the Sanctuary State to deal with.
That hasn’t worked for the last 50yrs, has it?
Also, what is supposed to happen to 3ish generations of the same exact caravan.
These people are UNWELCOME, strangers, foreigners w/ little or NO SKILLS – it is NOT my responsibility or wish to feed or give them free medical, housing when there are seniors & vets here that paid the price for me to live a deceit quality of life.
IFF the nations they are from have issues – fix them.
There are many homeless people here that require jobs.
California has become a SHIT HOLE under Democratic rule.
We don’t need more people driving down wages so BIG BUSINESS can enjoy record profits.
I say CLOSE the borders until there are less homeless & the middle class has good paying jobs again. It is unhealthy for anyone to have to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet.
I do NOT support censorhip at all. People are to be free to write, speak their mind as long as they DO NOT commit violence. Words can NEVER harm me, however sticks, stones, bullets can. As a legal scholar I recognize & can prove that google, Facebook, Twitter, You Tube, et al. are ultra vires corporations that can (& will) be closed, reopened after the Board of Directors are locked up & the ill begotten, unjust enrichment confiscated due to Deceptive Trade & Fraudulent Business Practices, Dishonest Services as well as Constitution violations! As one of We the People we rule. NO ONE can hide behind a corporate veil. This is the only warning. ATTORNEYS aka BAR UNION MEMBERS aka BUMs are LIARS, THIEVES, TREASONOUS TRAITORS & UNCONSTITUTIONAL therefore THEY DO NO HAVE STANDING, STATUS, AUTHORITY & AGENCY as each is a person, a corporation. FASCISM is NEVER acceptable especially
when THE SHIT HITS the FAN.
There are two Cabinet Secretaries working on this with private individuals.This is really serious. Bryan’s comment is quite naive,The USA has given much to South and Central America
There needs to be a deadline drawn across Mexico at least 200 miles south of the US border.
Inform Mexico that if they do not turn these people around, and that US assistance is available for the asking, then the US will have no choice but to take pre-emptive measures to impede these stated invaders by destroying key points of roads/rail lines that they must use to continue moving northwards.
When the internal communication lines and expensive infrastructure of Mexico start to disappear, and attempts by the Mexican Military to prohibit these actions result in the destruction of Mexican Military Forces and material they may finally understand where their “best interests” actually are served.
This is not to say that we should allow our country to be overrun by invaders but if you do not Hate the Globalist and their world policies for their oppression and their crimes against humanity in third world countries with the same Fervor that you Love our own Bill of Rights then what in the Hell are you? This is said because it is disheartening to come to this website and see that many people are not grasping that this all happening under the manipulation of Globalist powers and their history of global oppression.