Economist: Financial Collapse Will Cause Civil Unrest to Erupt In America By 2016

by | Nov 7, 2014 | Headline News | 295 comments

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    Economist Martin Armstrong is predicting that rising resentment against the status quo as a result of economic inequality is likely to cause a serious political uprising before 2016.

    “It looks more and more like a serious political uprising will erupt by 2016 once the economy turns down. That is the magic ingredient. Turn the economy down and you get civil unrest and revolution,” writes Armstrong.

    In making the forecast, the economist cites the case of 90-year-old World War 2 veteran Arnold Abbott, who is being targeted by authorities in Fort Lauderdale for defying a newly passed city ordinance that criminalizes feeding the homeless, an example says Armstrong of how “laws in the USA have simply gone nuts.”

    Armstrong, who correctly predicted the 1987 Black Monday crash as well as the 1998 Russian financial collapse, asserts that the downfall of the system will be its inability to gauge the anger that Americans currently feel towards their government.

    “You just cannot make up this stuff. And the Democrats cannot figure out that the people are getting pissed-off at who is ever in office? And what about the police?” asks Armstrong. “Is this just turning into thugs with badges who just enforce whatever law some nut-job politician writes? What if they passed a Herod type law to curb population and decree that everyone must kill their first-born. When does reason ever return to the police force these days? They no longer protect the people – they protect the politicians against the people.”

    As we reported back in August, the U.S. Army is preparing for civil unrest in the United States. A 132-page document entitled U.S. Army Techniques Publication 3-39.33: Civil Disturbances outlines how troops may be required to deal with “unruly and violent crowds” where it is “necessary to quell riots and restore public order.”

    Riots which rocked Ferguson, Missouri earlier this year and threaten to reignite should Officer Darren Wilson be acquitted illustrate how single events can spark sustained social unrest.

    However, more widespread dislocation is only likely to occur in the aftermath of an economic collapse which impacts a huge number of Americans. As we have seen in numerous countries across Europe, including in Belgium just today, crippling austerity measures combined with anemic economic growth have set the stage for violent unrest.

    In a February 2013 article entitled Why the Banking Elite Want Riots in America, we outlined why the political class is perfectly content to engineer and exploit social unrest as a means of paving the way for the IMF to engage in its tried and tested method of asset stripping and looting a nation.

    With polls showing some 74% of Americans are already angry or dissatisfied with the government, further economic hardship could prove to be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

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      1. The Prophet

        2016? Why not 2015? I want 2015. My ammo wants 2015.

        • sterlingsilver

          Its important that we not over-sensationalize or romanticize a collapse. While I’m with you in hoping that there is a reset, there will indeed be a lot of pain involved, even for the prepared. Its something I don’t look forward to but the correction period is necessary.

          • BJ

            Last night I happened to be in front of a tv and caught a little bit of a show on the Discovery Channel. It was about the science behind the new Matthew McConaughey movie “Interstellar.”
            They were talking about black holes and worm holes and doing it in a way that I could actually understand…..which was a first for me. I’ve never been able to even begin to grasp that stuff, I am not science or mechanically minded, so understanding how things work is difficult for me.

            Anyway as I watched the show something popped into my mind, and maybe I am way off since I am not super smart or understand all these things….but this is what I felt that little gut voice suggesting or questioning?

            Could heaven be only a worm hole away?

            Would love to hear the thoughts of some of you super smart Godly people out there.

            • BJ

              You’ll get your wish come October 2015

              • BJ

                I love what he says about police….spot on.

                Didn’t Mac just do an article from Armstrong a few weeks back where this supposed prophet predicted that the DOW would hit 30K before the crash? Don’t know that to be true, but I can’t see how the Dow can go from 17K range to 30K in that amount of time? I suppose it is possible?

                I still think the blood moon and October 2015 we will start to see things totally melt down.Doesn’t that coincide with Armstrong’s 275.5 or whatever for 2015?

                • Paranoid

                  Any way I can bet this guy $1,000 on his date? I’m getting tired of these people making predictions without any skin in the game.

                  • old70

                    exactly, I can remember reading that the financial collapse would be here in 2010,2011,2012,2013,2014..
                    I’ve got so that I don’t even read these stories any more.

                  • Outlaw

                    Yup, goal lines just keep getting pushed back. Guess its an easy way to get out of taking NEEDED action NOW though.

                  • Hillary

                    Maybe he has foreskin in the game.

                • BB

                  I’m not really clear on his time frame for Dow 30,000 but if what he says is correct about the bond bubble I could definitely see it happening in a couple years, as counter-intuitive as it may seem. All that money has to go somewhere, to perceived safety. And the bond market dwarfs the stock market.

                  • old70

                    in the meantime, keep the fear factor going so products can be sold

              • TheGuy

                Sigh why October?

                I’m calling it at Febcember the 41st, 5670.

                Not really but it makes about as much sense as tying it down to any given date.

                • BigB

                  TheGuy, that date makes about as much sense any other.

                  But that don’t mean it cannot happen any day including today. Things here in the good old USA are, excuse my latin, fucked up in oh so many ways.

                  Our CIA could not even tell us that an army of Muslims was being formed in Syria. Do you really trust them on who has a rocket with a nuke on top that can produce an EMP over the middle of the United States?

                  How about a chemical or biological weapon being used that makes ebola look like a common cold? Russia like we have that capability.

                  How about a co-ordinated attack on the very few refinery’s we have here in the USA. No gas other than what is trucked in from Mexico and Canada, Goodbye economy.

                  The White House computers were hacked a couple of weeks ago and the USA could not stop it for over a week. You don’t think that the capability to attack our power grid nationwide isn’t on someones list to do. 3 days of no electricty during the middle of winter! Imagine that.

                  The pukes with Al Sharpton urging them on in Ferguson could just be the start of a civil war in that the 76% of Americans (and ileagle aliens) who are pissed at how disfunctional our government is.

                  The list could go on. Just what it could be to set this country aflame is hard to say. I only know that there is a short fuse out there just waiting for a spark.

                  Preparedness does not have to mean sitting in your basement with external cameras watching everyone or watching the news 24/7. It means taking reasonable precautions in your everyday life. When you travel make sure you have alternate plans in how to make it home or to your bug out location. The saner of us know that life is short and we were meant to enjoy it.

                  Stay frost my friends and stay prepared.

                  Now about that pumplin soup recipe I have been working on getting down on paper…..


                  • BJ

                    “Our CIA could not even tell us that an army of Muslims was being formed in Syria.”

                    You seriously believe that?

                    Hell, it was our cia involved in training them…same ole story, different country and day

                  • TheGuy

                    It’s been begging for it since Nixon.

                    Yeah, it could go at any minute. I’m kind of surprised it’s made it this long. Back in the 80’s I was convinced I’d be glowing in the dark by now, and really… when you look at it… that almost happened at least 3 times.

                  • sixpack

                    “3 days of no electricty during the middle of winter! Imagine that.”


                    I ain’t scared.

                  • notjam

                    cia = army of muslims.
                    they control the opposition.

                    if a nuke or EMP goes off in america it will be the CIA not russia.

                    russia and america work together against the people.

                    amadimijad and america work together against the people.

                    same with: assad, chavez, kim jung il, castro, gaddafi, sadam hussen.. it’s all a scam to control the people.

                • Chicken Biggy

                  1975, 76,77,……fast forward to 2008,09,10,11,12,13,14,15,16 and it goes on and on and all of you forget the failed predictions of the past. This one is so far out everyone will forget it when the date comes and passes without a hiccup. What all of forget is that there really is no one in charge who knows anything. It took nearly 1,000 federal, state, and local cops and support personnel 7 weeks at a cost of $10 million dollars to catch one nut job in the hills of Pennsylvania. Most of you have finally woken up to the unending line of B.S., you’re comments reflect this. Good for you!!!

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Well Well Well… Obama replaced Eric Holder with a First ever “BLACK” Woman Atty General – Loretta Lynch.

                More of the same folks. The “Kumbya” / “Coom-bi-ya” club.

                • Nobama

                  Well at least her last name is appropriate for what should be coming to the entire administration.

                • sixpack

                  I guess he’s trying to woo back all of the African-Americans he previously fucked in the ass…

              • KY Mom

                The outlook for 2015…

                Update on the ‘recovery’

                Layoffs Explode In America’s Big Old Tech

                “…the computer industry which includes permanent layoff queen HP; it layered another 5,000 job cuts on top of the 16,000 it had announced earlier in the year, and on top of the tens of thousands it had announced in prior years. The segment also includes Microsoft which is now implementing its own mega job cuts. In October, the segment announced 6,509 job cuts for a total so far this year of 55,511. That’s up 92% from a year ago!

                The electronics industry – Cisco among them – announced 1,648 job cuts for the month, bringing them to 18,153 year-to-date. Up a stunning 136%!

                The telecommunications industry – which includes money-losing Sprint, now 80% owned by SoftBank of Japan – announced 5,217 job cuts for the month, which brought the year-to-date total to 20,038. Up 81% from the same period last year.

                All three tech segments combined clocked in with 13,374 job cuts in October and 93,702 for the year so far. Up 97% from the same period last year!

                That’s more than just the routine tweaking of the work force, where some people get laid off in one area of the company and other people get hired elsewhere. This time it’s serious. And they’re all doing it: Microsoft (18,000), layoff-meister HP (21,000), Cisco (6,000), Intel (5,350), Sprint (2000 on top of the 5,000 by which it already reduced its workforce so far this year), TI (1,100), Dell (1,000), EMC (1,000)…”


            • DumbDude

              I tell ya what, live a just life, follow those 10 suggestion thingies, give up all those things you do that hurt yourself, look and ask for help every day, and love your neighbor as yourself. Then when someone convinces you to jump into a black hole, you’ll have a great chance of going right over to the pearly gates.

              I wouldn’t think it would be a good Idea to show up uninvited though, I think I remember something about flaming swords…

              I know I sound like a smarta$$, but BJ, if you take this advice I think you’ll actually appreciate the good that will come of it.

              • Hillary

                A treacherous black hole is known to exist between Michael/Moochelle’s legs. It could even be the much-feared return of the black death.

            • Lisa

              I don’t know anything about worm holes, but when scientists talk about the possibility of alternate universes existing, that it would make sense regarding quantum mechanics, I think that yet again, science is proving the Bible’s accuracy. Heaven and hell are co-existing realities, so I think that’s what the alternate universes that quantum mechanics suggests are. The TV show Fringe was about a parallel universe too, and usually science fiction turns out to be based on actual science.

              • BJ

                I loved that show……usually if I watch tv it is something i hear is good and check it out on Netflix. So earlier this year I heard about Fringe from a youtube video and just finished watching the whole thing last month….loved it. I wish I could find another show like it…..Dr Who sucked and the spin off to that one wasn’t any better IMO.

                I know God is the author of science and I think many of the big miracles in the Bible were in fact scientific / weather related things that God used to perform His tasks

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Yeah BJ you said: I know God is the author of science and I think many of the big miracles in the Bible were in fact scientific / weather related things that God used to perform His tasks.

                  OK Tell us how a wooden staff suddenly turned into a snake?

                  How about turning water into wine. Give us the Scientific Formula for that one?

                  How about feeling Hundred thousand with one loaf of bread. Fill us in on the scientific formula for expansion bread to make a meal. Talking about stretching your food budget.

                  Fill us in on where actual science proves these great Miracles from the Babble. We are eager for your response.

                  • al

                    hmm heizenberg uncertainy principle , shroedingers cat , basic physics experiments, pardon my spelling atm im imbibing on some really good beer lol , but if I remember the bible correctly , jesus said if you but had the faith of a mustard seed ,you can move mountains? those 2 experiments correlate very close to that actually .it appears that there are many things that do not actually happen unless a human consciousness actually is there to participate , so what level of faith /willpower do you actually have articulated to make things happen? exactly how sharp is your focus on something? wont get into wave/particles lol the jury is still out it appears matter is both and indeed is manipulated by conscious thought if it is precise enough , just my 2 coppers lol meaningless to you probably unless you do indeed spend 20 years or so peeling that onion apart .

                  • BJ

                    Thanks Al and dunbdude….I greened thumbed both of you 🙂

                  • toadsticker

                    Consciousness was the missing element when Einstein was trying to formulate his theory of everything.

                • Hillary

                  BJ, you’ve said a mouthful!

              • Cellar Spider


                Is that you Aeryn Sun?

                Sorry Lisa for the joke, I agree with your point fully. It’s just that when you talked about parallel universes, wormholes, and science fiction it made me think about Farscape.

                • Hillary

                  Oh FRELL!

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Seriously Lisa, Tell us about what Heaven is like? Same with Hell. Give us the details that either actually exist. And from some other legitimate source, rather from the Babble. Got any first hand witnesses that can testify? This should be some enlightening humor. Stay Tuned for Lisa’s response…

                • al

                  as far as the babble is concerned lol the original translations left out the info of the equivalent of 34 more complete bibles , those do indeed give the basis that you are asking for from a scientific stand , tho my question is why wasn’t that info dissemated to the masses ? hmm seems like a particular group that follows the Talmud uses that as a control mechanism ,tho why? my theory is that it gives them an edge and that is why they are the ones who thru constant thought over generations get the power and they destroy the knowledge that is there for everyone . self serving? indeed , but very effective

                • John W.

                  Hell is probably what anyone who knows you experiences every time they have to deal with you. You really have some issues. Angry much? Irrational?

              • Nobody

                Yup, heaven is for rea’ul, duh duh duh.

                How about reading the 1972 MIT/Club of Rome study “Limits to Growth,” or Richard Heinberg’s “The Party’s Over: War, Oil, & the Fate of Industrial Societies, or Tainter’s “The Collapse of Complex Societies.”

                Ignore the doomer porn, where people like Armstrong point to non-sequiturs to make their conclusions. We’re in trouble this century, as ALL fossil fuels peak, then start the decline phase of their profiles.

                Think folks: The fracking? It’s being done because US oil production peaked in 1970, at 10 mbl/day. Yes, in other words, conventionally drilled oil has already peaked, at the planetary level. All the Non-OPEC fields have been in production declines for years. And the idiots in finance think that somehow, the Earth’s capital is going to pay-off all the global debt.

            • w69

              I am convinced that time is an illusion, Eternity is realit, abs think yoyou’re on to sosomething there. The connconnection betbetween Heaven and earth are much closer than we realize. Remember in the New Testament, book of Acts and in the Gospels, how Jesus was seen suddenly appearing in the room where the disciples were hiding out from the Jews.
              In the same way, spirits, ghosts, demons and all are around us And we can be used by them to do their biddin, uunless our spirit is renewed by The Holy Spirit of God, By none other than Christ Jesus our Lord.
              We are protected by his ‘Seal spoken of in Paul’ s letters, moved by the Holy Spirit. I got off subject, I do that. It could be a wormhole. God is Able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think!

              • w69

                My keyboard on my preferred mobile device is making me sound like a stuttering hillbilly, LOL! … Oh no offense if you stutter. Or a hillbilly.

                • hillybilly SC


                  No offense taken. 🙂
                  Us hillbilly’s have a thick skin…
                  or is that a thick head like the mrs. keeps telling me. 🙂

                  Y’all enjoy the evening and play nice.

              • BJ

                Interesting….thank you

            • Spook89

              What makes you think God even needs a wormhole? 1 Thes. 4: 16-17 says He’s coming to take those who are born again. Also, read 1 Cor. 15:50-52.

            • Meathead

              BJ. Recommended reading: Brian Greene’s “Elegant Universe”, and Roger Jones’ “Physics For the Rest of Us”.
              I struggled with college level algebra when I was working on my Bachelor’s degree; it took everything I had to pass the math comp tests.
              I’m not exactly an intellectual giant; I’m lucky if I can find my ass with both hands on some days. But string theory and quantum mechanics are fascinating subjects, even to a layman such as myself.
              If you really want to hurt your brain, check out the equations that Einstein applied to his theory of General Relativity. He used something called a tensor. They’re on the internet.
              4 basic operations in math: addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.
              4 fundamental forces in nature: strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force, electromagnetic force, and gravity.
              Hugh Everett did some interesting research on what was known as the “Many Worlds Theory”.
              Apparently the subatomic world is not only a crowded realm, but a very violent world which creates energy according to string theory.
              Trivia question: If you were to convert the mass of 1/3 of a penny to pure heat energy guess how much water you could boil off with it?

              • BJ

                I give up….how much water?

                • Meathead

                  43 million gallons…enough to fill up 85 Olympic sized swimming pools.
                  Source: Roger Jones’ “Physics For the Rest of Us”.
                  Copy write date 1992, page 28.

                  • BJ

                    See, i don’t even begin to understand how that is even remotely possible?

            • durango kidd

              BJ: Sages, Mystics, and Adepts have transcended this reality for the next, century after century after century, and they have recorded their experiences and reported them to US.

              Everyone human being is first a spiritual being and then a physical being and everyone has the God-given right and God -given ability to meet their Maker within; through the SILENCE.

              “Those who wait upon the lord, mount up as eagles.” 🙂

              Scientists have mathematically proven at least ten other dimensions (and possibly more by now). String theory quantum mechanics postulates 11 other dimensions (and maybe more); as 11 other dimensions are necessary for Quantum Theory to be correct. The Spirit of Life that is within you is that “worm hole”.

              Turn the “wrench” some more and you will find it. 🙂

              • durango kidd

                BTW: I have long suspected that “dark energy” and “dark matter”; dark because it is invisible, is actually the evidence of these other dimensions interacting with our own.

                The personality we are, survives the transition from this world to the next intact. That next world is peopled by those who have passed on before US.

                There are also Angels and Demons in those other dimensions and they do manifest into our own from time to time. The unknown is always a “spooky” place, mostly due to our own ignorance and fear of the unknown.

                But there is nothing for a Christian to fear while exploring these dimensions through the SILENCE, because every knee must bow and every condition must yield before the name of Jesus. 🙂

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Durango – You said – But there is nothing for a Christian to fear while exploring these dimensions through the SILENCE, because every knee must bow and every condition must yield before the name of Jesus.

                  Are you aware Jesus was a Homeless person, wandering aimlessly? If Jesus believed, then why was he not granted everlasting life as it claims in the Bible? Surely Jesus was a believer eh?

                  • Ms.X

                    Your question makes no sense. You are a hater so why the hell do you keep bringing up Jesus or God?

                  • durango kidd

                    WWHTI: I have been out of the body. I have seen Jesus Christ face to face. He is real. He is alive. By His stripes we are healed. By His blood we are saved.

                    These are not trite mantras but living truth for those who have experienced His grace. The next world where He lives is more alive and more vibrant than anything you can experience in this one.

                    If you have ever believed anything I have ever said, please, believe that. I am a meat and potato kind of guy who makes Doubting Thomas look like a fanatic.

                    We hear radio and we see TV and we know that they are the product of invisible energy. Just because He is invisible it doesn’t mean He isn’t real. Blessed are the pure (sincere) in heart for they shall see God. The Lord rewards those who diligently seek him.

                    Wise men still seek Him. Be wise. Seek ye Him. 🙂

                  • whateverman

                    much like “mary” was impregnated by some spirit spluge when fact of the matter is that she was either raped or was a whore and made this bs about it to avoid persecution…who knows maybe she was the daughter of some important political figure and to avoid embarrassment, cooked up this big steaming pile of horse sh1t…

                    a lot more believable than some holy ghost knocking her up.

                  • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                    Durango. You were either drunk or on PCP. WHAT A BUNCH OF DUMBASS RELIGIOUS HICKS. Welcome to America land of the dumb inbreds.

                  • lower40

                    you once said you were raised a christian or in a church enviorment cant remember the exact situation ,anyway it doesent sound like you got much learning ,Jesus was here from the begining ,he didnt need to be granted anything he came here to give a gift to you and me ,not to attain somthing for himself ,remember what God said in genesis ,let (US) create man in (OUR) immage ,who do you think he was talking to ,his son Jesus

                  • durango kidd

                    WWHTI: No, I am a man of experience. In this world and the next. I have been there. I have returned. Do not let YOUR lack of personal experience cloud your judgement as to the possibilities that are available to you.

                    Expand your awareness.

                    Seek and you will find. Ask and it will be given to to you. Knock and the door will be opened unto you. Do you have the GONADS to discover your spiritual side and explore the possibilities and extended abilities that might be waiting for you?

                    Well, do you? 🙂

                • Hillary

                  I could never be an atheist. The thought that we are as smart as it gets is terrifying.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Any of you Bible Thumpers have any names of people that were saved and granted ever lasting life? And if you have a name, I’d like to interview them. They must be hundreds of years old eh? Maybe you can ask your pastor if he can provide some names and witnesses to that. Surely he has some names we can talk to eh?

                • cantbaretowatch

                  I have a better idea. I will interview the ones saved and granted everlasting life and you can interview the ones not.

                • al

                  well according to the voting records over 800 people in new York voted and apparently they have been alive since Lincoln was president? if factual then there ya go lol ! altho I think its just demorat vote fraud myself )

            • JustMe

              The path to “Heaven”, is through your Consciousness. You are connected to Creation, through Consciousness.

              A physical “wormhole” is a link through time and space, and is likely the only way to traverse the stars.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Jebus loves me cause the Babble tells me so. What a crock of propaganda shit. Can I have another helping of BS sir. Cause that last spoonful was really yummy.

            • cantbaretowatch

              “…gut…” Grand Unified Theory! “…super…” Superstring Theory!!! Bwaaaahahaha. Ahhhhh I just could not resist.

            • whateverman

              heaven/hell, god(s), religion…

              man will you guys ever wake up from your force-fed delusions?

              if there is a higher power…i doubt it was ever conceived correctly by any human being on this planet.

              man-made religions are so phony and manipulative, it’s a wonder why people still actual follow them blindly…

              we’ve created telescopes that proved the sun, planets and the moon were not gods, we’ve sent bigger telescopes, probes in to space that prove we’re not at the center of the universe, we’ve proven that we’re an insignificant speck amongst billions of stars and billions of galaxies…yet half-wit religious nut-jobs still believe there’s this white-bearded god in the sky that focuses all of his attention on us…what a crock of sh1t…

              but hey, zeus and thor and loki all them now mythological gods we’re real at one point too right? raa the sun god was a real god too right? praying to god to give crops some rain worked too right? witches were real too right? ghosts and poltergeists are real too right? bigfoot too right? lockness? you bet ya…


              • lower40

                See i dont understand that concept ,if i like chevy’s and the next guy likes ford’s ,there’s nothing wrong with that ,but then you got the asshole that not only like fords ,he just hates chevy’s also and has got to tell you what a big pc of shit they are ,and not only are they a big pc of shit ,that you yourself are a moron and a fucking pc of shit also for buying into the idea of even having a chevy, and remember i never even said i didnt like fords ,in fact i respect his right to have his ford ,and dont mind being friends with him ,see to me this sounds just like the liberal lefts mantra ,everyone is ok to have an opinion as as long as it doesent differ from mine,and if you think different then me ,well then of cource your a fucking retard ,because i couldnt possibly be wrong

                • Bastet

                  The Chevy and the Ford are both real

          • TEST

            Agreed. That is why we need to non-violently and – at the same time – AGGRESSIVELY and CREATIVELY engage the culture. Think of all they 90 year olds, the Downs Syndrome children, the quadraplegics, the 4 yr old children, etc etc. – all **innocent** – who will be affected.

            The left *murdered* over 100mm last century, according to Oxford Univ. Press published The Black Book of Communism; Dr. RJ Rummel of U of Hawaii estimated 160 mm, then I think revised it upward. Meanwhile, people are DYING of malaria, filthy water, cholera, etc. while BILLIONS are going into the **socialist redistribution** scam of faux global warming. Yes, people are DYING all to push this demonstrably false sociailist scam EVERY DAY (and BTW, I have done 400 page paper, with over 700 footnotes and have a meteorologist in the family, so those few of you who actually to debate me on this, BRING IT ON)

            Socialism started by murdering people under Robespierre, and has never changed. But of course, the NEXT time, the 8,978th time under Hitlery and her flying monkeys, they are sure that THIS time they will get is right… and the cheque’s in the mail, too.

            • Winston Smith

              Exactly. This is why I do not want to see a collapse. I know it is coming and am preparing to survive it, but I also know it will see the deaths of tens of millions of innocent people. Plus, I have no idea what sort of order will be “restored” on the other side. Will it look like a Jeffersonian Republic, or something a lot less free? The end result is far too unpredictable for me to feel confident about unleashing revolution.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Winston, Glad to see you getting prepared. Those unprepared will eventually take to the streets, looking for food and refuge and will be slaughtered with no where to go. Its refugee status and any FEMA camp will be over run, with Zombies. And the MSM will be giving out total false information. Get yourself a ham radio and find your local repeater channel toget local updates. Also a Short, Ling wave radio to monitor world events as they too unfold across the globe. WWTI

              • John W.

                Human societies generally go to the lowest level of human behavior. We lucked out with the smart guys who studied history and human nature giving us our Constitution. Some just cannot stand happiness and want to replace limits on govt. with the insanity that govt. is supreme. They should start with that twit Paltrow and give Obama the power to steal her millions. See how she feels then about a supreme leader.

            • FreeSlave

              Good post, Test. By the way, here’s something that exposes the oft perpetuated lie that there’s no difference between Libs and Conservatives:

              “Utah’s 4th Congressional District is overwhelmingly white and wealthy. The population is 86.8 percent white, and only 1.4 percent black, plus 16.3 percent Hispanic. The median household income is above $57,000.

              Mia Love, an African-American born in Brooklyn, NY, to Haitian immigrant parents, won it last night.

              Memo to African-Americans: Democrats think you belong in majority-minority districts designed to keep you on the Democrat plantation. Republicans will elect you in majority-white districts – if you are a Republican. Because, while Democrats group you by the color of your skin, Republicans will judge you by your character and the content of your ideas.”

              From Bill Hoss.

              • quick

                Same with Tim Scott in S.C.

                A good quality conservative. Who happens yo be republican and black.

                Won as Senator by a large margin. He won because he doesn’t have the mental disorder called liberalism.

                Who cares if he is black or yellow or …. you get the idea.

            • Hillary

              The global warming gang try to keep Africans from burning wood or dung because it will destroy the planet. Those stupid Africans have the nerve to ask “If I am going to starve, why should I care?”

              • Winston Smith

                Global Warming is about making certain that the haves always maintain a high standard of living by denying a good one to the have nots. What? You can’t afford a new Tesla? Well then you shouldn’t be allowed to drive! They will always have enough money to pay for the regulations they impose while the rest of us never will. It’s like communism in a way, in that theoretically everything was legal in communist systems but it was taxed so much that only the elite could have it (albeit only the use of said item as it still was state property).

          • OutWest

            Good article, PJW.
            I truly believe the upper crust is underestimating
            the wrath of sheeple with sharks teeth gone beserk.

            • John W.

              Warren Buffet is a prime example. In his eighties with more money than a thousand people could ever spend he still pursues more. He is one of the main reasons why Obama killed the Keystone XL pipeline. Mainly because BNSF railroad that Buffet owns now gets to carry all that oil. I wonder who gets paid off in return.

          • TruthIsAll

            Agreed sterling, it will be a horrible time for us all. But I would rather take the bitter pill now rather then wait for the condition to get worse.

          • FreeSlave

            Sterling Silver: “Its important that we not over-sensationalize or romanticize a collapse.”

            If you attribute a collapse to the NWO, is that over-sensationalizing or romanticizing the collapse?

            As for me, a Christian, I just found the following and it’s very helpful:

            ht tp://

            Should a Christian Be Interested in Conspiracy Theories?

            Basically, it’s a waste of time and it’s not good to be fearful of such things as an NWO. Trusting Jesus is better and healthier and a great use of time and energy.

            • Pissed Off Granny


              You truly are not interested in the truth, are you? Sorry I wasted my time.

              • FreeSlave

                Pissed Off Granny,

                I looked at all the sites that you referred me to. I kicked the tires and took the NWO car out for a test drive.

                While I happily stipulate that there are NWO elites, I’m simply saying that I’m not going to worry about it, nor am I going to fear them.

                Here’s a question: What’s the benefit to whichever NWO’er that you name for there to be an economic collapse? Let’s say Warren Buffett. What’s the benefit to him if the economy collapses?

                • Anonymous

                  Then why you choose the name: FreeSlave if this is your thinking. Soon you’ll lose your Free status the way you think.

                  • FreeSlave

                    No I won’t. I’m a free slave in Christ.

                • Pissed Off Granny


                  You claim to be a Christian. Read Revelation and then tell me that the Tribulation is not Christ/Christians vs “the world”.

                  Who are these people that Jesus tells you have continued to ruin his kingdom to the point He is forced to bring His warriors to this earth to clean out His enemies.

                  He describes them over and over along with their greed and need for power and their desire to destroy Christianity.

                  When you can tell me who they are, FreeSlave (and He has told you, over and over) then you will be on your way to truth.

                  As far as the money changers, like Warren Buffet, he plans to be among the few that are appointed to rule over us peons. If you think he doesn’t understand their final blueprint, you are fooling yourself.

                  As far as you fearing them, read up on how Christians were treated when the Bolshevik Jews (financed by Goldman Sachs; part of the crew of the NWO)took over Russia. They have the same plans for America. Once that happens their NWO will finally be in place; ruled by these elites through the United Nations.

                  So test drive that NWO car all you want; you are in for a very rude wreck of an awakening.

                  • FreeSlave

                    Pissed Off Granny,

                    I know my Savior, and He knows me. Hence, no need to fear the NWO, ISIS Head Choppers, or Roving Gangs (or anything else). I’ll prep for hard times for my family and I, but I’m with the One who wins in the End.

                    Hakuna Matata.

                  • sixpack

                    I don’t understand how you got 7 red thumbs for that comment. People must still be stuck in “hate Russia” mode.

                  • Nobama

                    Revelation. In the fiction/fantasy section.

                  • Cabin Fever

                    Agree with everything you said!!

                  • Cabin Fever

                    Pissed off Granny- totally agree with you!!

            • Anonymous

              FreeSlave….Way to go to see the light. The entire Zion Elders will take care of you.

              • FreeSlave

                No they won’t.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Tell us how Jebus is going to feed you MRE’s and House you? bwhaaaaaaaaaa Nobody is coming to help you. Jebus has been MIA for over 2000 Years. Hell people cant wait 5 minutes for their MacDonalds Biggy size happy mean with out loosing it. You think after 2000 Year you should feel stood up. lol

              • Pissed Off Granny

                You know WWTI,

                You write some very good posts; then with a post like this you destroy all your credibility.

                Jesus said to understand the signs of the times…..that the tribulation would start “AFTER A GREAT FALLING AWAY” of believers. Judging from a lot of comments, including yours, that has happened to America.

                So to the believers here we are getting close….

                And WWTI will get to see the most Important ‘dead’ Man of all, come back to life. We will ALL bend our knees. No exception.

                • Nobama

                  Jesus died 2000 years ago. Get over it. He doesn’t exist anymore. Gone. Forever. Get it?

                  • Ms.X

                    Nobody oh I mean Nobama. You are the one that needs to vanish. GET it?

                  • booby

                    Jesus doesn’t exist anymore? gone? forever?
                    are you sure about that?

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Granny. Anybody on their knees begging for mercy is either a slave or about to get executed. The results are the same. Why people allow their minds to be polluted with religion I shall not know. I purged that BS out of my body years ago and am now a free man living the good life. I have no need to hate anything and my mind is free to seek the truth. Good or bad. Religion fills the mind with hate and no room for any rational thought. These wars are religuous wars. Jew against muslims. Just let these idiots kill eachother off.

                  • Wonder Woman

                    WWTI, you’d better be damn sure you are right because if you are wrong, who’s gonna save your ass in the hereafter?

            • al

              but if evil finds you and terminates you b4 your time how did you serve jesus ? the definition of meek I believe is STREGTH under control ? as in the meek shall inherit the earth? if you do not think that people conspire against each other , think of it this way ,mcdonalds ,wnedys and bugerking constantly conspire against each other for dominance and market share . so thus do good and evil grapple , on one side you vote with your dollars and the other side your soul/conscience
              votes?if the god entity gives you a mission /purpose how do you vote?or do you say omg that’s scary and I will straddle the fence and not decide? do not be undecided or LUKEWARM please

          • southside

            Amen to you,Sterling. Entirely too many people on this site is romantizing killing and death. Glad to know there is an adult here

        • KY Mom

          From an email…

          As a country we face many challenges. Please pray for our country, the people and elected leaders.

          “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.”
          Psalm 33:12

          “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their Land.”
          2 Chronicles 7:14

          Paul Harvey’s “If I were the Devil” Transcript from 1965

          If I were the Devil
          “If I were the devil … If I were the Prince of Darkness, I’d want to engulf the whole world in darkness. And I’d have a third of it’s real estate, and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn’t be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree — Thee.

          So I’d set about however necessary to take over the United States. I’d subvert the churches first — I’d begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: ‘Do as you please.’

          “To the young, I would whisper that ‘The Bible is a myth.’ I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what’s bad is good, and what’s good is ‘square.’ And the old, I would teach to pray, after me, ‘Our Father, which art in Washington…’

          “And then I’d get organized. I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting, so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I’d threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa. I’d pedal narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.

          “If I were the devil I’d soon have families that war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves; until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings I’d have mesmerizing media fanning the flames. If I were the devil I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions — just let those run wild, until before you knew it, you’d have to have drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.

          “Within a decade I’d have prisons overflowing, I’d have judges promoting pornography — soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress. And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls, and church money. If I were the devil I’d make the symbols of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.

          “If I were the devil I’d take from those who have, and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. And what do you bet? I couldn’t get whole states to promote gambling as thee way to get rich? I would caution against extremes and hard work, in Patriotism, in moral conduct. I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun, that what you see on TV is the way to be. And thus I could undress you in public, and I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure.

          In other words, if I were the devil I’d just keep right on doing on what he’s doing. Paul Harvey, good day.”
          – Paul Harvey 1965

          If I Were the Devil – by PAUL HARVEY

          • the renegade braveheart

            KY Mom, I appreciate that old Paul Harvey video. He was a wise commentator for his time. I can pray for our country and its people, but I believe the ‘elected leaders’ are a lost cause.

            • Pissed Off Granny


              Paul Harvey must have been reading the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion when he wrote that article.

              Follows their blueprint for destroying America to a “T”. Look them up.

          • Mike in VA

            Ky Mom

            Another great post. You are one helpful and wise lady. Thank you

            • TEST

              Everything she posts is great.

              KY Mom for president!!

              • KY Mom


                • TEST

                  As you see above, it’s already 5 votes to none!! Great start on your road to the presidency! 🙂

                  Oh wait… once they count the dogs, cats and dead people from “Dead Fish” Emanuel’s Thugocracy of Chicago, and more votes from the car trunks where Al Franken found his, that will be 8 gazillion votes “found” for the left. Oh well!

                • BJ

                  I just did some googling trying to find that article Mac did a few weeks back where Martin Armstrong predicted something about 274.5 2015, which is October I think of next year. In one of the google results that came up was a article by Mac from May 22, 2012. I read through the article, sounded much like most we read today 2.5 years later, but also the comments sounded a lot the same as far as opinions and tough talk.

                  But I did notice as well, that you were posting great info even back then, 2.5 years ago 🙂

            • TEST

              Our battle is 100% non-violent. Rather, the goal of conservatives, libertarians and other thinking people is to ***inform and educate***. Y’know, the old “pen mightier than the sword” aphorism.

              HOW do we do this? That, mon ami, is up to you. Facts are the starting point, but we need to capture the imagination, the hearts, etc. This means that artists, poets, writers, cinematographers (James O’Keefe at Veritas comes to mind), etc. are critical parts of the game. Using technology intelligently is also critical. A *lot* of you are posting great things here! And I hope my pro-2nd amendment post a couple days ago was downloaded by some of you, and **used** to inform others.

              What we are seeing right now is the result of what Antonio Gramsci, along with the vile Alinsky advocated 40 some years ago: Don’t take on the West militarily; rather, take over the culture. And we as conservatives and libertarians have not only NOT done addressed this, but even fought among ourselves.

              It is up to us today to find contemporary solutions to the Grima Wormtongue antics of the fascist (yes, “fascist” – look up the dictionary definition) of the left. I leave you with the analysis of the problem you and I have to solve, articulated by Charleton Heston.: “Modern media fills the cultural airwaves with a mist of anesthesia, so that principles and values are slowing desensitized to the coming onslaught. The new culture arrives on the heels of this propaganda. It simply moves in and takes over, like slipping a find new glove over a numbed hand. The outcome of the war is just as devastating, but without the bombs bursting, twisted bodies to bury, or rubble to rebuild. A new class, a different culture, simply takes over.”

              • Tonto

                Islamic jihad has been the greatest mass murdering force in the history of humanity. “Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (the Roman Empire).”

                “Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest. The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam. About 270 million non-Muslims died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. And the genocide of Jews and Christians, and the atmosphere of Islamic wars upon the earth, continues to this very day.

                • MongoPissed

                  60 million Christians were slaughtered by Jewish Bolshevism in Russia. Judaic bankers financed all parties in WWII, which lead to over 80 million dead goyim. Judaic Bolsheviks gave Mao his political indoctrination and financing. Some say he killed 180 million. Militant Islamism today was created by the Jewish controlled British Empire. Talmudic Judaism is the cancerous successor to those Jesus called the Synagogue of Satan. Bolshevism is the tool by which the Elders of Zion, born of that Talmudic culture, plan on ruling the world, where everything is owned by the state, and they are the state. Most Jews and Christians are as ignorant of their being played as are the Islamic jihadis in the Middle East. Try and answer one question: why has Al-Queda, IS, ISIL, ISIS, and whatever terror organization makes the news this week, not destroyed Israel? The vaunted IDF was faced down by poorly armed Palestinians in a shooting gallery recently, so it could not be fear of them that leads to Islamists only attacking Islamic governments.

                  • Pissed Off Granny

                    Great post, Mongo.

                  • The Old Coach

                    The German NAZIs, who systematically murdered millions of Jews, were financed by Jews. Riiiight !

                  • John W.

                    More of the Joos did it bullshit from the retards. Christ was born and died a Jew. Guess you hate him to. Yes there were commies in 1917 that were Jews as there were people in our own revolution that were Jews. Then vast majority of the reds were Christians of one sort or another.

                  • badpuppydog

                    Mongo well said +1

                  • badpuppydog

                    ” never mind that comes Mongo” !!!

                • TEST

                  Islam, the religion of pieces. Human pieces, that is.

                  • Ms.X

                    Makes me think of the God hater and atheist Madalyn Murray O’Hare. They found what was left of her in quite a few pieces.

                • Pissed Off Granny


                  Please site where you found this info. Thanks.

              • TEST

                OH brother. The “Yes we can/Yes we have no bananas” leftists finally woke up and got their thumbs down mojo on.

                Hey guys! Friday! Time to take your EBT card out and go get some beer, pizza and Twinkies,and sit trolling SHTFPlan! Woohoo!

                • hammerhead

                  Gosh , I hope i aint gotta be a lefty to go get some pizza and beer.
                  Twinkies are good too.

                  • TEST

                    Nice one! You are one up on me!! 🙂

              • al

                turn off the talmudvision I think would help greatly

          • FreeSlave

            The Liberal Hippies and the Liberal Feminists gave the finger to Paul Harvey.

            • TEST

              Same feminists that gave the “finger” to Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, Gennifer Flowers, that poor junior worker abused by a workplace superior named Monica, ad infinitum.

              As a matter of fact, the vile, ignorant leftist feminists are perhaps some of the lead henchmen (oooops, henchwomen), along with the radical gays, in the destruction of this country.

              • TheGuy

                Spot on, and what an excellent vector Mr. Gramsci’s acolytes chose with that one. What was the one thing that chivalrous behavior demanded absolute acquiescence to? Yep, women.

                • TheGuy

                  Thumbs down me all you want.

                  We’ve been betrayed, son. A divorce rate north of 50%, 75% of which is initiated by the woman, should tell you that straight up without having to even get into the very obvious weeds of infanticide and hedonism.

                  • John W.

                    The takeover plan was laid out and they even put it in writing over fifty years ago just as to how they would bring us down. To this day there is no pushback or counter offensive to what the left is selling. Just like that fat bastard Rove who has never learned that a lie unchallenged will soon become the truth and he gives the Stoopid Party advice. I expect he will be advising them to play nice with Obama. Never learns.

              • Hillary

                In the foreseeable future, leftists, cops, and politicians will live in fear of having their past exposed. Their life will resemble a scene from an old monster movie: Being chased by an angry crowd with torches, dogs and shotguns.

          • Jaques Merde

            Thanks KY Mom.

            I used to eat lunch in my car every day, so I could listen to Mr. Harvey. You made me wish there were another of him, somewhere. You will do very well, until one shows up…

          • Casual Observer

            Spot on as usual.
            Thnaks KY Mom.

          • TheGuy

            Huh didn’t know the Devil was named Antonio Gramsci.

            Apparently so.

            • Hillary

              Well, I’ve never been to Spain…

          • TEST

            TWELVE thumbs down. I tracked the IP addresses, and they all trace back to either MOMMYS_BASEMENT.ORG

            These leftist trolls are incredible, aren’t they! Not enough that various flavours of leftism **murdered** between 100mm (Stephane Courtois, et al, Black Book of Communism, Oxford Press) or up to 160 mm (Dr. RJ Rummel, U. of Hawaii), now in their evil ignorance, they deign to come on here and post their support for Satan (whom Saul Alinsky dedicated his Rules for Radical to).

            Do me a favour, leftist/fascist trolls, would you? Thumbs down this to prove my point, exactly how ignorant, evil and absurd you are. I’ll give you a couple minutes to put that joint and Twinkie down. Thanks, guys!

            • FreeSlave

              I get thumbs down too.

              Curious. Would you prefer a thumbs down or would you prefer that the person write down what they disagreed with you on?

              • TEST

                I would prefer they show some intellectual honesty and reply with their objections. Only thing is, the left *has* no intelligent, cogent logic to reply *with.* IMHO, there are leftists trolls on the site, who really need to get a clue. On the other hand, there’s a LOT of good discussion on this site, n’est pas? You, yourself, also post a lot of good stuff, so thanks

                • FreeSlave

                  I would prefer that the lurkers who just do thumbs down only would not bother to do any more thumbs down.

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  Religious freaks are not interested in the truth. They’ve been stuck in neutral for 2000 years. Hello the world is not flat either. But hey facts could slap them in the face, and they still be waiting at the Jebus bust stop for a ride to heaven. After 2000 year and no Jebus do you think maybe you’ve been fleeced? Bwhahahaha. You can’t fix stupid.

            • badpuppydog

              Test I guess I should chime in here and let you know NATIONAL SOCIALISM was a RIGHT WING movement not a LEFT WING movement like you have been saying over and over again. I didn’t want you to continue to make a fool of yourself posting unfactual information. Once again sir…you know NOTHING about National Socialism. As for the joint comment no self respecting nationalist is a pothead or a drunk. You have watched too much talmud-vision and anti nazi films made in holly-jew-wood. Try to find the off switch to that’s on there somewhere. Good day sir !!

              • The Old Coach

                Now we know you are a communist. National SOCIALIST German Workers Party??? Russia vs. Germany was an intramural food fight to see whose socialist balls were bigger. If you think otherwise, YOU are the fool.

                BTW having known a LOT of Germans, I agree with Patton, we should have left them alone to swallow Stalin whole. They probably would have, too, except that FDR’s administration was so riddled with Communists and fellow travelers that vast amounts of arms, ammunition, airplanes, machine tools, even raw materials like copper and uranium were diverted from OUR defense to help Stalin out. Most recent of many researchers to prove this is Diana West; “American Betrayal”.

                • badpuppydog

                  The old coach..once again just because i know the true stories of WW2 unlike you it doesn’t make me a national socialist any more than knowing boy george is gay makes me a fag. Pull your head out of your ass and do some research silly.

                  • badpuppydog

                    the old must not know too many damn germans because I AM GERMAN and most germans know these facts myself and others state here.

        • the renegade braveheart

          Prophet, have no fear. Your ammo WILL get 2015, possibly the first quarter.

        • DumbDude

          2016 because you have to multiply pi by 1000! Duh!!!! Don’t you know anything about economics?

          If you don’t know what the hell I’m talking about then you shouldn’t be taking any advice from Martin Armstrong, he’s a crackpot and a criminal and should be ignored.

          Not saying the world is peachy, just don’t let these nut cases influence you unless you really buy into their bullcrap.

          • Lisa

            He’s not exactly a criminal. He just refused to hand over his method of economic prediction to the feds. They wanted it, he refused to just give it to them, and they threw him in prison. He still refused to give it to them, which is his right. He is to be commended.

            • DumbDude

              Did you ask the people who lost their money in his “investments”? I think they might have a different answer. He did plead guilty. I know, I know, perfectly innocent bystanders are constantly being pickup up by the security and exchange commission in situations where hundreds of millions of investors dollars have disappeared and those perfectly innocent bystanders spend years in prison and later plead guilty.

              Its something we all face every day from the corrupt system.

              And multiplying 3.14159 by 1000 isn’t exactly an economic model the feds can’t figure out is it?

              • Lisa

                Sounds like that came from a smear campaign from the feds to cover their own corruption and the fact that they imprisoned a man who couldn’t get what they wanted.

        • Freeillinois

          Don’t worry friend SWHTF soon enough.

          I figure we have a few months to finish preparing before the zombies attack

        • Stan522

          I’m tired of these forecasts… really tired of them. Perhaps this one will be true, but chances are whatever happens and why will occur on its own schedule….

            • Stan522

              Read by 26 people and had one comment…..

              Times sure have changed Mac….

            • durango kidd

              Vincent: Jim Willie is a rummy living in Costa Rico who gets drunk every day and makes another rant, and people swallow his BS like its a sip of J&B.

              Thanks for the link!!! 🙂

        • Outlier

          I think it will happen in 2015. Why? Read (and then pass along) “The Harbinger” by Jonathon Cahn (a saved rabbi).

          Every 7th day is a sabbath day. Every seventh year is a sabbath (shemitah) year. 2015 is a shemitah year.

          • Lisa

            I don’t remember the Harbinger talking about 2015. Did you get that from his latest book The Shemitah, or did I just miss it (which is very possible)?

            • KY Mom

              Shemitah is a time when debts are to be forgiven and the land in Israel was to be given a rest. Farmers in Israel are to fulfill the Shemitah (or Shmita) every 7th year by letting the land rest. There is no planting or plowing or harvesting during the year. Whatever produce that grows can be picked and collected by anyone. (See Exodus 23:10-11, Leviticus 25:20-22)

              The current Shemitah cycle began on September 25, 2014 and will complete on September 13, 2015.

              The final day of the Shemitah year is of great significance. Note the Shemitah dates in 2001 (Sept. 17) and 2008 (Sept 29).

              Sept. 17, 2001, was the beginning of the economic calamity associated with 9/11 and the lowering of interest rates by the Fed resulting in the collapse of the stock market Sept. 17, 2001 – Elul 29 on the Hebrew calendar.

              Likewise, Sept. 29, 2008, marked the next big crash. Sept. 29, 2008, also fell on Elul 29.

              Elul 29, 2015, (September 13, 2015) represents the eve of the Feast of Trumpets or Rosh Hashana at sundown. An unusual astronomical phenomenon, a blood red moon – or tetrad – is expected to occur that evening, according to NASA. The Feast of Trumpets begins a period known by Jews as “the days of awe” that lasts through Yom Kippur a week later.

              Source: The Harbinger

              2015 (beginning in September) begins the year of the 70th Jubilee. 70 is a prophetic number.

              Liberation is the central theme of Jubilee. A year of Jubilee is celebrated once every 50 years, following the last year of seven Shemitah cycles.

              In Jubilee, ALL debts are supposed to be cancelled and all land is supposed to be returned to its original owner.

              • TEST

                KYM – Cahn may well be right, or he may not. Definitely worth listening to, but all things need to be finally weighed against Scripture. I recall quite clearly Hal Lindsey in the 1970s “proving” that the Lord was coming back very shortly (he didn’t set a date, of course, but did indicate within a decade or so, if I recall). Since I am writing this, that obviously didn’t happen. I of a certainty will occur, but we don’t know when. And it may be that – as we know God’s nature doesn’t change – that Cahn’s writings may capture “only” judgment that is coming, not Christ’s return.

                What scares me is that many innocent people – think Nazi Germany – paid with their lives for the evil of others. That very much animates me. Ruth Graham (Billy’s wife) once said if God didn’t judge America, He would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. Billy recently said something similar. As Thomas Jefferson (NO deist by the way, tho he wasn’t strictly orthodox – see David Barton and Wallbuilders) said, he “trembled” knowing that God’s justice did not sleep.

        • FreeSlave

          (Continuation from ECB Post about Trichet)

          “Many people seem to believe that the United States is ruled from behind the scenes by a conspiratorial elite with secret desires, i.e., by a small secretive group that wants to change the government system or put the country under the control of a world government. In the past the conspirators were usually said to be crypto-communists who were intent upon bringing the United States under a common world government with the Soviet Union, but the dissolution of the U.S.S.R. in 1991 undercut that theory. Domhoff notes that most conspiracy theorists changed their focus to the United Nations as the likely controlling force in a New World Order, an idea which is undermined by the powerlessness of the U.N. and the unwillingness of even moderates within the American Establishment to give it anything but a limited role.

          Skeptics of New World Order conspiracy theories accuse its proponents of indulging in the furtive fallacy, a belief that significant facts of history are necessarily sinister; conspiracism, a world view that centrally places conspiracy theories in the unfolding of history, rather than social and economic forces; and fusion paranoia, a promiscuous absorption of fears from any source whatsoever.

          Domhoff: “There are several problems with a conspiratorial view that don’t fit with what we know about power structures. First, it assumes that a small handful of wealthy and highly educated people somehow develop an extreme psychological desire for power that leads them to do things that don’t fit with the roles they seem to have. For example, that rich capitalists are no longer out to make a profit, but to create a one-world government. Or that elected officials are trying to get the constitution suspended so they can assume dictatorial powers. These kinds of claims go back many decades now, and it is always said that it is really going to happen this time, but it never does. Since these claims have proved wrong dozens of times by now, it makes more sense to assume that leaders act for their usual reasons, such as profit-seeking motives and institutionalized roles as elected officials. Of course they want to make as much money as they can, and be elected by huge margins every time, and that can lead them to do many unsavory things, but nothing in the ballpark of creating a one-world government or suspending the constitution.

          • FreeSlave

            “Since these claims have proved wrong dozens of times by now, it makes more sense to assume that leaders act for their usual reasons, such as profit-seeking motives and institutionalized roles as elected officials. Of course they want to make as much money as they can


            Stig’s American Cousin (several comments down with many thumbs up):

            “This will only happen if TPTB want it to happen. They don’t.
            There is still too much money to be made.

          • Pissed Off Granny


            The total article, of which you have cited only a portion can be found at rules America/theory conspiracy

            Article written by G. William Domhoff, a research professor in psychology and sociology at the University of Santa Cruz, CA.

            I encourage all posters to go to that article, read the TOTAL of it; and then decide if Domhoff has convinced you there is nothing conspiratorial going on in this world.

            His explanations and excuses does not carry water!

            • FreeSlave

              Hi Pissed Off Granny,

              I know by your name that you’re pissed off, but I did not mean to piss you off by expressing respectful doubt and skepticism about the NWO.

              I’ve spent some time looking stuff up, reading it, thinking about it, and I’ve come to this conclusion: It’s not a good use of my time, I’m not going to worry about it, and I’m not going to fear the NWO.

              P.S. With all the lists that I’ve looked at, I didn’t see any Biblical Conservatives listed as a NWO member. Far as I’m concerned, the NWO Elites are mostly Libs. Or Lib Fascists.

              • Pissed Off Granny

                Not quite, FreeSlave:

                Hate to break it to you but with just a little more digging you will find them to be mostly Zionist Jews behind the charade. Did you just skim over European Americans post last subject or did you not understand what he told you?

                Pissed Off Granny means I am totally and thoroughly disgusted that ALL of us, including me, have allowed this country to be usurped by Christs enemies; and there is going to be a terrible price to pay because we have went merrily on our way, burying our heads in the sand, allowing the takeover of America, God’s precious gift to His people.

          • Pissed Off Granny


            The total article, of which you have cited only a portion can be found at rules America/theory conspiracy

            Article written by G. William Domhoff, a research professor in psychology and sociology at the University of Santa Cruz, CA.

            I encourage all posters to go to that article, read the TOTAL of it; and then decide if Domhoff has convinced you there is nothing conspiratorial going on in this world.

            His explanations and excuses does not carry water!

          • Pissed Off Granny


            The total article, of which you have cited only a portion can be found at rules America/theory conspiracy

            Article written by G. William Domhoff, a research professor in psychology and sociology at the University of Santa Cruz, CA.

            I encourage all posters to go to that article, read the TOTAL of it; and then decide if Domhoff has convinced you there is nothing conspiratorial going on in this world.

            His explanations and excuses does not carry water!

            • Pissed Off Granny

              Sorry about the triple posts….I have no explanation other than a heavy finger…..

          • Lisa

            His claim that the claims have been proven wrong needs documentation – and I don’t believe it. You can see with your own eyes what’s happening, and I’m not going to believe some guy who makes dubious claims over what I can see with my own eyes.

        • socmarine87

          “We didn’t get all dressed up for nothing”

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          My Ammo has 2014 written all over it with Smiley Faces.

        • Nobama

          I thought this was supposed to happen years ago. Now it’ll be 2016? Yawn. Same story, year after year. I’ll believe it when I see it.

        • PJ

          Wait….wasn’t the collapse supposed to be here in 2010? 2012? 2014?

          And we will be here in 2016 and this blog will be predicting the collapse no later than 2019.

          yawn fest

        • Ohio River

          I don’t want 2015….I want it NOW!

        • Marcus

          They lost me at “Martin Armstrong”….

      2. Stig's American Cousin

        This will only happen if TPTB want it to happen.

        They don’t.

        There is still too much money to be made.


        • al

          there is no money to be made but there is plenty of control to be made . How can the fed reserve print up 23 trillion dollars and still need income tax to be paid?they need out income tax? really? or do they need that control factor ? of using our labor to get us to produce something that they can purchase with printed paper ? that they print? and get first use of?16th amendment was never passed actually . the govt has one tool that I use and that is incrementalism over time its actually quite horrible if not used with good morals . I slowly move my business forward slightly over time to improve everything for my workers ,but that dark path is there if I do not have a good moral compass .

      3. rabbt

        Now its 2016?? Before it was 2009, then Spring of 2010 then fall 2012……..2013……2014….. I really wish the Rothschilds would make up thier mind

        • eppe

          Let’s just hope the Roths (Bauer\Bower) hold off for a long time. Peace is a GOOD thing, at least here in the USA…

          • the renegade braveheart

            Eppe, we’ve had peace in the US for TOO long now. We have MONTHS at the most, NOT years. My money is on first quarter of 2015. Winter is one helluva time for an uprising.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Its time “WE” set the date, and everybody on the same day for 30 days, create a 30 day sit down strike, do not pay any bills, Pay no taxes again forever, do not buy anything, and plan marches with masks and burn every bank down, and MSM outlet. And any business with the last name that ends in Stein. You get the drift.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Oh….. And Bullets and Bayonets, Let it Rip!!

        • Da Yooper

          Doom is always 6 months to a year away

      4. Hammerun

        2016? Shit, thats two years off! WTF. Tell us about something thats happening tomorrow? Dont do this shit prognostication so far out that NOBODY will remember! Carrot on a stick. Bullsh&t!!!

      5. ridiculous

        im starting to believe the economy wont ever collapse.. I mean, when its about to collapse, we(our elites) will just start a war.
        Our media is blaming Russia on being provocative, but we all know who the real criminals are.. the USA/Israel bankers. (hitler didn’t wake up one day, and roll a dice, choosing Israelis, they do the same greedy thing throughout history)

        either way, nukes will fly, eventually.

      6. Townsaver

        What happened to March 2015?

        Oh well, more time to stack, stock and study.

        All local (50 miles) silver shops are out of stock… 🙁

        • markinaz

          be VERY thankful for what silver you have now…

      7. Kulafarmer

        Now heres a subject we can all have fun debating!

      8. Hammerun

        Heres a couple of predictions about 2016.
        Pelosi will have obamas child.
        Harry Reid will be elected a Republican President.
        Michelle O, will be a super model for Victoria Secret.
        Debbie Wasserman Shultz will be Miss America and
        Hillary will be elected President! Yea, right!

        • Night Breaker

          Speaking of Debbie wasserman Schultz anyone seen her lately, I am suprised the dems haven’t ordered cement over shoes for her.

          As far as the collapse goes best guess ( educated at that , from empirical observations) ebola hits critical mass about first week of January 2015 ( no it has not gone away) Goverment funding is up December 11 , 2014 ( continuing resolution expires) and tada the ferguison effect ( DHS preparing for civil unrest in multiple locations)
          The dear leader may use goverment shutdown as leverage for illegal Imagration amnesty , not getting his way the government may shut down just as the fergusion news is announced six urban areas explode in violence federal assistance is hamstrung by lack of funding , the situation rapidly deteriorates affecting the economy it teeters on collapse . The congress won’t budge Obama acts unilaterally it dumps more unrest from a different demographic group that now raises up as the executive order is blocked , services start to break down deliveries can’t make it into urban areas . This continues for three weeks before congress gets enough votes to override the presidents budget veto . at this time various cases of the flu spring up only to be revealed its Ebola and it spreads rapidly it he urban inner city it was festering just under the surface 21 days prior when a visitor unknowingly brought it from sirerra leone .
          The president declares a national security event and orders a quarantine around the effective city only it’s about two weeks too late the virus has spread to the surounding areas . The us economy is now in a complete free fall the stock market has dropped 3000 point before trading has been halted . Nothing is moving on the highways due to the epidemic , rioting and now starving city dwellers leaving the cities and escaping the cordon .
          Society has a total collapse , trade ceases to exist , food is scarce and the dying litter the roads from violence and disease .

          Small things insignificant in themselves when combined together can cause a horrific event without warning. Many scenarios can be deduced with gathered intelligence , it always follows the path of least resistance but the final out come is dependent on external factors .

          ” two,armies met on the French plane to sign an armistice the leaders were in tense negoiations , one knight was bitten by an asp and drew his sword to kill the offending serpent , the others seeing this action drew their swords and a slaughter insured , the frightening fact that this was in error to the situation , unpremeditated and occured without warning” from On Nuclear War

          Prepare , Plan , gather your own intel , THINK

          Semper Fi 8541

          • Night Breaker

            lT]he two contenders met, with all their troops, on the field of Camlan to negotiate. Both sides were fully armed and desperately suspicious that the other side was going to try some ruse or stratagem. The negotiations were going along smoothly until one of the knights was stung by an asp and drew his sword to kill the reptile. The others saw the sword being drawn and immediately fell upon each other. A tremendous slaughter ensued. The chronicle . . . is quite specific about the point that the slaughter was excessive chiefly because the battle took place without preparations and premeditation. HERMAN KAHN, On Thermonuclear War

            Semper Fi 8541

          • T-town

            So I take it in your “fairy Tale” Night Breaker nobody lives happy ever after?

            • Night Breaker

              T. Town ,
              No winners only survivors , the rest is up to them .

              Semper Fi 8541

      9. RICH99

        Now it’s 2016……how short people’s memories are of hearing this same thing the past 6 years !
        I’m looking more sane by the year !
        I was scoffed at back in 2011 when I said it would be years and years before anything happens

        • DumbDude

          Kinda nice to hear from you Rich99. And kinda sad you’re still lurking around here.
          Tell me RICH99, what good things can people do when they don’t spend so much time on all this Gloom and Doom crap?

          • RICH99

            I guess my years old words are a pain in your ass !! Sometimes being painfully right is unpopular at times !!!….
            Oh and in 2016 we can discuss the next set of dates , likely 2018 or so !!!

            • DumbDude

              Maybe you have trouble reading or maybe you mistake sincerety for sarchasim. I was just wondering what you’ve been doing with you time spent away fron daily doom. I remember reading your new years resolution post and applauded you for it.

              I can’t quite understans why a guy like me who puts absolutely no value or faith on these posts still feels compelled to read em. I wanted to hear from somedoby who “broke the cycle” 🙂

              • RICH99

                I think it’s the amazement that people here suffer from what I call REVERSE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE that compels you to come back like myself ….it amazes me that these ridiculous economic collapse articles keep popping up !
                Most of these people will be 80 years old and still awaiting that collapse and what they are doing to prepare for it !

      10. Satori

        repost in case you missed it

        Life after an Economic Collapse: The same… only Worse Part I

        “Argentina’s economic collapse is a valuable case-study because of its unique circumstances. There are countries that have existed in poverty for thousands of years, where most of the population has lived in awful conditions their entire lives. While that is tragic, it does not represent a good example as of what happens to a developed nation, both economically and socially, when it collapses due to numerous factors both local and foreign. When the world shuddered during the 1929 financial crisis, Argentina had the world’s 4th largest GDP. The country had a strong and well-educated middle class, respectable local industry, an enviable amount of natural resources and agriculture which earned it the nickname of “granary of the world”.
        I have often written about how life after an economic collapse is not what most people believe it to be. There’s no fancy bugging out into the woods, there’s, zero, zip , nada use of most of the equipment that is so often advertised as essential to survival. There’s no camping, no hunting, and no epic battles against zombies or colorful Mad Max type gangs.”

        • TEST

          Ferfal and his Surviving Argentina website is required reading, IMHO, for all SHTFPlanners!

      11. JRS

        I seriously doubt that the IMF or the World Bank will be involved in making any loans to the corporate US. That is reserved for third world countries to indebt them and than have the international corporations come in and strip their resources for payment.

        The US already has it’s own Fed to strip the resources and indebt it. Same as it has been for 100 years or more.

        I do believe that unrest is just below the surface. When it breaks out you better steer clear.

        The only policy .gov has is its own “continuity”. It needs ever expanding debt or “growth” as they like to call it, in order to survive.

        The economy or debt growth cannot shrink or reverse direction or the social programs collapse, .gov workers get laid off, the economy crashes, people revolt and .gov heads roll.

        They will have their costumed clowns kill you first…bet on it.

        • Kulafarmer

          Ferguson is going to be a huge flashpoint, theyll riot, loot, beat peeps up, some of em will get shot by the cops and all hell will break loose the Oobola will declare martial law

        • Anonymous

          JRS, right on. If anyone from what is being called 3rd world or 4th reading this comment, if you love God and your country but living under dictatorship of the corporate criminals, become a gray men or women, track the bankers and the foreign heads of any corporations operating in your countries and DO WHAT IS REQUIRED TO FORCE TEM OUT. Read between the lines as well…Force them out by all and any means.

      12. Enemy of the State

        some say its already happening

        its all about perspective

        Life is all about perspective
        the sinking of the Titanic was a miracle to the lobsters in the ships kitchen

        • Townsaver


          There is a happy element to every tragedy.

          Under the sea! Under the sea!

      13. Copperhead

        Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers,so we could identify their corporate sponsors!


        • Enemy of the State

          And how much they gave, and how much they pocketed from what they were given

          same with Senators

          someone still needs to enplane how Harry Reid got so rich on a state senators pay, and Im sure he’s not the only one who needs to be audited by a non governmental entity , and than subsequently locked up

        • BJ

          Now why did you have to go and throw my beloved Nascar in the same sentence with congress 🙁

          • Copperhead

            BJ: Sorry I guess I could have used Indy drivers. Please forgive me I like NASCAR too!!!!!!


            • BJ

              LoL, I am a Nascar fanatic, but don’t care for open wheel racing.

              Since Jr is out…..I hope Bad Brad smokes the cry babies!

        • Anonymous

          Copperhead..just one uniform all that is needed from the President to the both houses:

          Brown in color, Large six sided star in front and the back and only shows AIPAC in cap.

          • hammerhead

            I was thinkin orange jumpsuit would be good enough.

            • Anonymous

              I was thinking their work uniform. Orange comes next.

          • Wink

            And a bullseye.

      14. Satori

        Why Matt Taibbi Thinks This Woman Is JPMorgan’s “Worst Nightmare”

        our entire system,government/Wall Street/banking is corrupt beyond imagination
        the people at the top echelons of government and finance
        are truly EVIL

        anybody see this story on MSM?
        I quit watching that crap years ago
        but I am curious to see if they bother reporting this story

        • TEST

          Taibbi writes *some* good things, but I have had personal correspondence with him, and he was a very, very nasty man. He is also a big supporter of gaymorrah. So, when he writes about Goldmun Suchs, I’ll read it. Otherwise, I’ll pass. He’s a one trick pony. Good at that one trick, but not anything else.

        • Anonymous

          Satori, Don’t expect one Jew goes against another Jew in their crime cartels.

          • The Old Coach

            You don’t know any Jews, do you.

            • Anonymous

              Just heard about some imaginary fake numbers around 6 million. However my grandpa fully educated me before he went to heaven. Too bad that his generation were accused of lies and they were forced to pay ransom on a regular basis that is continuing to the current generation until it gets stopped by force. And yes he was a proud GERMAN.

              • badpuppydog

                18/ 88 !!!!

      15. Satori

        The 85 Richest People On The Planet Now Have As Much Money As The Poorest 3.5 Billion

        ““There’s been class warfare going on for the last 20 years, and my class has won.” Billionaire investor Warren Buffett said it three yeats ago. It’s even worse now.”

        half of working Americans make $28,000 or less
        the average middle class person essentially makes the same thing they did 30 years ago

        • TEST

          … and how many are Learjet leftists, limousine liberals, and rich Hollywierd hypocrites?

          BTW – I’ll vote left the first time just ONE Obama worshipping leftist Hollwierd person opens up just ONE room in just ONE of their zillion room mansions to just ONE of those line jumping illegal immigrants Obumbler has let across. Starting with Obama worshipper Tom Hanks, who in 2010 purchased a 14,500-square-foot mega mansion in Pacific Palisades for $26 million – the largest transaction for a single-family home in Los Angeles County in 2010. Good to know Obama’s depression isn’t keeping the Learjet liberals from the good life (Hanks is
          the same guy who starred in the bible-hating Da Vinci Code

      16. Mike in VA

        I know for a fact unrest is boubling under the surface. You can feel it.

        Who do you know that is happy right now?

        I have never seen a time in my life where no one seems happy. There is constant complaining, anger, jealousy, and resentment. People blame other groups for there situation.
        The truth is there situation is caused by the government. When you see black people walk out of a speech given by our glorious president that says something. I can actually say that was a shock to me at a time when very little shocks me.
        All this anger and depression is a bomb waiting to explode. It could happen at any time. One little spark and boom riots and bloodshed.

        You can just feel it.

        • the renegade braveheart

          Mike in VA, I have the same feeling. I think the house of cards will collapse in the first quarter of 2015, but something could happen sooner. I’m waiting on that grand jury in Ferguson, MO to announce their decision and that’s when the party will begin. It will probably spread to other parts of the nation also.

      17. Get right with the Lord

        I really don’t believe we get out of 2015 before this house of cards begins to come down.

        Take a look at this link and see what may soon come to pass.

        Why the TRIBULATION MUST BEGIN in September of 2015
        Look at this link

        Make Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior and Repent.

        We all have fallen short of the glory of God and nothing but Christ will get you to heaven

      18. overthecliff

        Reset is not just necessary it is inevitable. It is going to happen and we had better be ready

      19. ponomo

        Will Obama still be around in 2016 as Prez? Or will he be in Leavenworth with half of Congress?

        • hammerhead

          Once obama declares martial law after the collapse he will be POTUS in 2017. YEA !

      20. Warchild Dammit!

        Dammit,my computer on the fritz!I am using a library computer,well,now I’m mad!Actually,the pot has been boiling for decades,kinda amazed we held together as a country this long,going to be a interesting ride!

      21. Sgt. Dale

        Why wait? I work more today working part time just to make ends meet. The economy has already crashed.
        2016 BS. we have heard this for over 10 years now.

      22. Old Guy

        Ill make a prediction. There will be riots when they make the announcement that the cop in Fergison Mo. will not be charged. If it cold weather the jungle bunnys wont be as big a group as it would be in warm weather. The one fact I do know is too many parasite takers and too few producing makers is not sustainable. throw in a few clatyclismic events and a real pandemic(not Ebola its a fizzle) and its a recipie for disaster.

        • TEST

          Mr Brown was clearly a thug. Nevertheless, let us hope and pray for non-violence. It is the only way.

      23. MommaD

        I hope it is much farther off than two years, but I could see some brutal civil unrest if tptb shut off the e.b.t. , look what happened when they were shut off for seventeen hours! Trial run maybe?
        No matter either way it will be a crazy world to be in. Meanwhile, I’m canning more kale greens today

        • Leatherneck

          Can rabbit and kill a hog.

          Semper Fi

      24. johnallen

        Main Street doesn’t revolt because the rich have more than they do. Always and everywhere the rich have had more than the farmers and the burghers. And rioting ISN’T revolution.

        The everyday person who has been accustomed to a full belly all his life will revolt when he is involuntarily and permanently hungry. But looting the Krogers and revolution are two very different things.

        Revolution is about changing who rules. Those aren’t radicals emptying the groceries. Those are hungry people whose only idea is eating for one more day.

        So there’z a thousand looters surging through town and the overwhelmed local LEO can’t handle it? Two helicopter gunships would put that down fast. You don’t want to be part of those mobs.

      25. TPSnodgrass

        I think that the Democrats have done an excellent job, in promoting the “benefits of an entitlement class” of people, so much so, that now, generations have been receiving entitlements for doing absolutely nothing, but voting for their entitlements. When so many people are willing to be purposefully enslaved, selling off their freedom and birthright for political expediency and power, our Republic IS in serious trouble and no longer a God-centered Republic.
        A “reset” or whatever you desire to call it, is now inevitable, and we must be vigilant that we do not allow ourselves to become pawns of political pimps from ANY political party. Hunker down, keep on with our preparations, and smile, baby, smile.

      26. femaregion1

        The collapse began 13 years ago. We’re all just waiting for the last remaining resources to be depleted. THEN the REAL fun begins.

      27. Angry Old White Guy

        My prediction is….., it’s never going to collapse.

        Prices will continue go up, the comsumer buying power will continue to go down.

        TPTB will make sure that little people always have just enough to get by, but not enough to get ahead.

        Never enough to take over, never so little that they revolt. The carrot of ‘the hope of a better tomorrow’ will continue to be dangled in front of us, so we never give up all hope. But tomorrow will never come.

        TPTB need to give just enough that anyone who talks about overthrowing the government is looked upon as a trouble maker with a tin foil hat.

        The bankster will continue to hand out easy credit to the consumer, so you’ll always owe your soul to the company store, working paycheck to paycheck.

        Cars will continue to come with features you don’t need and 10 year car loans will become the norm. Houses will get bigger and 30 year mortgages will be replace with life-time mortgages.

        Welcome to the New America.

        • FreeSlave

          Angry Old White Guy: “My prediction is….., it’s never going to collapse.”

          Well, you may die before it happens. I may die before it happens.

          But this blog is not named “SHTF plan” for nothing!

        • TEST

          Apparently the leftist trolls here support oppression.

          Quod erat demonstrandum.

      28. Archivist

        There was an X1.6 solar flare about half an hour ago.

      29. Thinker

        OT;We just had another X1 Flare and the extreme radiation ionized the upper layers of the atmosphere,producing a short lived HF radio blackout on the dayside of the planet.Don’t know if it was earth facing yet,but maybe Mr. Rodgers will update?

      30. Satori

        fast collapse

        slow collapse
        already in progress

      31. TEST

        The Cold War victory left the United States with no rival superpower to teach us daily what we were not,” Fein writes in The Washington Times.

        “So we embraced practices emblematic of the Soviet Union, for instance, detention without accusation or trial or indiscriminate spying on citizens without warrants.

        “The United States paradoxically came to resemble the global tyranny the Cold War was fought to defeat because of its Cold War triumph.” To say nothing of the “predictable gratuitous wars and spiraling national debt.”

      32. Satori

        support the troops???

        not so much

        NYT: Pentagon Ignored Hundreds Of Soldiers Exposed To Chemicals In Iraq

        don’t ya just love hearing a politician spew about his support of the troops while wearing a yellow ribbon and a flag pin ?

        kinda makes ya wanna throw up don’t it ???

        “mission accomplished” !!!

        • Anonymous

          Pentagon only takes care of the IDF….the rest of non tribal American troops are just being used as the ginny pigs to get killed for their ZOG masters. Sad indeed but criminal all the way. WAKE UP AMERICA.

        • MongoPissed

          I worked with an Airman who loaded depleted uranium ammo on Warthogs during Desert Storm. He came down with lymphoma 5 years later, and the VA denied his claim for a service-related disability. I last saw him in a bar in Vegas, treating lymphoma with alcohol. He died disabled, unemployed and homeless.

          • OutWest

            That brings tears to my eyes, Mongo.
            There ain’t no damn justice, only victims.

      33. TheGuy

        Did it ever occur to you that some a-hole could make Borax hotdogs?

        I’m just saying.

        I’m not saying it’s a GREAT reason to make feeding the homeless illegal. I can think of several other reasons… like… such as you know what happens when you feed a stray (hate to put it like that, but having experienced this with a human, it needs to be brought up).

        Still and all, it’s pretty dumb. How about charities though? Is that illegal too? Because if that is, then I will be outraged for sure. At least with a charity, if they start making borax hotdogs, the entire organization is going down, and it’s traceable.

      34. watching and waiting

        Ok—heard all this before
        Do live each day
        That day is coming, but no sense in setting dates because it could happen anytime.

        But, I still believe that we will have to contend with several SHTF situations occurring at the same time: Of which will be earth change events involving significant destructive earthquakes and volcanoes. Therefore resupply of used prepped items will be difficult.

      35. MongoPissed

        The Elders of Zion are planning on being ready for us.

        Keep prepping. Once you have your rifle and handgun, the technically oriented should consider your own drone. A place to start:
        Field comm and intelligence are some possibilities. A good task to assign unemployed junior with an engineering degree who can’t find work because a Pakistani will work for less.

      36. Grey Dog

        This could be worse than Ebola 🙁

        • FreeSlave

          I watched it. She’s easy on the eyes. But I don’t think academic feminists would be too pleased with her.

          • the renegade braveheart

            FreeSlave, I’m sure the feminazis would go after that host for his remarks about women.

        • TEST

          I hope she wasn’t late for her “Yes we can/Yes we have no bananas” chant-in!!

      37. Copperhead

        Lincoln and Obama are very much alike:

        1. Lincoln placed his hand on the Bible for his inauguration. Obama used the same Bible.
        2. Lincoln came from Illinois. Obama comes from Illinois.
        3. Lincoln served in the Illinois Legislature. Obama served in the Illinois Legislature.
        4. Lincoln had very little experience before becoming President. Obama had very little experience before becoming President.
        5. Lincoln rode the train from Philadelphia to Washington for his inauguration. Obama rode the train from Philadelphia to Washington for his inauguration.
        6. Lincoln was a skinny lawyer Obama is a skinny lawyer.
        7. Lincoln was a Republican. Obama is a skinny lawyer.
        8. Lincoln was highly respected. Obama is a skinny lawyer.
        9. Lincoln was born in the United States. Obama is a skinny lawyer.
        10. Lincoln was called Honest Abe. Obama is a skinny lawyer.


        • Pissed Off Granny

          Lincoln was assinated. Obama?

          • durango kidd

            I hope not. No reason to make a martyr out of a TRAITOR. Indict him. Try him. Hang him. Make an example out of him AND Biden for the rest of the NWO Elite to see.

            America is a nation of laws. treason is punishable by death. Its totally Constitutional. 🙂

        • badpuppydog

          11. Lincoln was murdered by the International jewish bankers. Obama works for the international Jewish bankers.

      38. Copperhead

        The Lawn Mower

        We have the standard 6 ft. fence in the backyard, and a few months ago, I heard about burglaries increasing dramatically in the entire city. To make sure this never happened to me, I got an electric fence and ran a single wire along the top of the fence.

        Actually, I got the biggest cattle charger Tractor Supply had, made for 26 miles of fence. I then used an 8 ft. Long ground rod, and drove it 7.5 feet into the ground.

        The ground rod is the key, with the more you have in the ground, the better the fence works.

        One day I’m mowing the back yard with my cheapo Wal-Mart 6 hp big wheel push mower. The hot wire is broken and laying out in the yard. I knew for a fact that I unplugged the charger.. I pushed the mower around the wire and reached down to grab it, to throw it out of the way.

        It seems as though I hadn’t remembered to unplug it after all.

        Now I’m standing there, I’ve got the running lawnmower in my right hand and the 1.7 giga-volt fence wire in the other hand. Keep in mind the charger is about the size of a marine battery and has a picture of an upside down cow on fire on the cover. Time stood still.

        The first thing I notice is my pecker trying to climb up the front side of my body. My ears curled downwards and I could feel the lawnmower ignition firing in the backside of my brain. Every time that Briggs & Stratton rolled over, I could feel the spark in my head. I was literally at one with the engine. It seems as though the fence charger and the piece of shit lawnmower were fighting over who would control my electrical impulses.

        Science says you cannot crap, pee, and vomit at the same time. I beg to differ. Not only did I do all three at once, but my bowels emptied 3 different times in less than half of a second. It was a Matrix kind of bowel movement, where time is creepin g along and you’re all leaned back and BAM BAM BAM you just crap your pants 3 times. It seemed like there were minutes in between but in reality it was so close together it was like exhaust pulses from a big block Chevy turning 8 grand.

        At this point I’m about 30 minutes (maybe 2 seconds) into holding onto the fence wire. My hand is wrapped around the wire palm down so I can’t let go. I grew up on a farm so I know all about electric fences…… but Dad always had those piece of shit chargers made by International or whoever that were like 9 volts and just kinda tickled. This one I could not let go of. The 8 foot long ground rod is now accepting signals from me through the permadamp Ark-La-Tex river bottom soil. At this point I’m thinking I’m going to have to just man up and take it, until the lawnmower runs out of gas. ‘Damn!,’ I think, as I remember I just filled the tank!

        Now the lawnmower is starting to run rough. It has settled into a loping run pattern as if it had some kind of big lawnmower race cam in it. Covered in poop, pee, and with my vomit on my chest I think ‘Oh God please die…Pleeeeaze’. But nooooo, it settles into the rough lumpy cam idle nicely and remains there, like a big bore roller cam EFI motor waiting for the go command from its owner’s right foot.

        So here I am in the middle of July,104 degrees, 80% humidity, standing in my own backyard, begging God to kill me. God did not take me that day….. He left me there covered in my own fluids to writhe in the misery my own stupidity had created.

        I honestly don’t know how I got loose from the wire…I woke up laying on the ground hours later.. The lawnmower was beside me, out of gas. It was later on in the day and I was sunburned..

        There were two large dead grass spots where I had been standing, and then another long skinny dead spot where the wire had laid while I was on the ground still holding on to it. I assume I finally had a seizure and in the resulting thrashing had somehow let go of the wire. Upon waking from my electrically induced sleep I realized a few things:

        1- Three of my teeth seem to have melted.

        2- I now have cramps in the bottoms of my feet and my right butt cheek (not the left, just the right).

        3- Poop, pee, and vomit when all mixed together, do not smell as bad as you might think.

        4- My left eye will not open..

        5- My right eye will not close.

        6- The lawnmower runs a million times better. Seriously! I think our little session cleared out some carbon fouling or something, because it was better than new after that.

        7- My nuts are still smaller than average yet they are almost a foot long.

        8- I can turn on the TV in the game room by farting while thinking of the number 4 (I still don’t understand this?).

        That day changed my life. I now have a newfound respect for things. I appreciate the little things more, and now I always triple check to make sure the fence is unplugged before I mow.

        The good news, is that if a burglar does try to come over the fence, I can clearly visualize what my security system will do to him, and THAT gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling all over, which also reminds me to triple check before I mow.


        • PA farmer

          Copperhead you are absolutely right about grounds on a fencer, 9 out of ten times people having problems, their ground is not sufficient. I have four grounds ten feet apart.
          I too have been bit many times over a life time by a fencer. I have a fifty mile Zebra fencer, the difference between the old ones and the new ones is their weed burning abilities. It will just snap you if you just touch it , but if it recognizes interference and that would happen buy grabbing it the charger goes up like a hundred times. And the closer you are to the charger the worse it hurts. Been there done that..

          My handle was always copperhead on the CB.

        • Wink

          Christ, Copperhead….. Your killing me…… Have bin laughing for 10 freeking minutes and still can’t stop…..

        • PKLL

          Cooperhead….oh, my gosh, I just read that to my husband…we are in tears….LOL….

          Glad you are okay……ahahahahahahahahaha….ow my stomach…..


      39. Socrates

        The proverbial SHTF is already happening around the world….the US Gov has done their best to hide it from you however.

        -Ebola cases still doubling in Africa, many in U.S. now.

        -French famers fling rotten vegatables and even manure at French government buildings.

        -Japans own bank buying 100% of their own bonds. Eeek!

        -Oil being forcefully downturned by Saudi Arabia to crush U.S. based Shale and fracking businesses. Ouch.

        -…Dogs and cats living together, Mass hysteria!

        You get the picture…or do you? Americans will be the LAST to know when the music stops. Everywhere else they already know it.

      40. scott

        The collapse is a continually moving target. I hate to tell you but I am doubting there will ever be a collapse, just a change in venue. Maybe stricter purchasing laws, and restrictions on mobility and communication pertaining to social disparities.

        Does this mean I’ll quit gardening, canning, target shooting etc. NO, HELL NO, I won’t change on account of new laws forbidding me from doing something someone else doesn’t want me to do. I’ll just become less conspicuous.

        • The Old Coach

          Update – that report was a hoax. Now saying 2 PM Monday.

      41. TEST

        Collapse? As Porter Stansberry says, the collapse ALREADY occurred. GM collapsed, and only survived on bailout money. AIG collapsed. Bear Stearns, Lehman collapsed. AIG ctollapsed. Obama crony/Dem Senator Jon Corzine “lost” $1.6 billion of depositors’ money

        So, IMHO, this will be a “punctuated equilibrium” (to take a phrase from the Darwinists, tho I think Darwinism is full of horse puckey), where we have part of a collapse, stasis, the a more minor collapse, stasis, a more major collapse, etc. Or think of how San Andreas Fault moves as another example.

        Thanks to the socialists, we now have $222 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities in toto, including $20 TRILLION dumped in the War on Poverty. Did a great job, didn’t it!

      42. TEST

        Or long story short, thanks to our Kool-Aide drinking Keynsian kollectivists, we will all become Detroit, the first major city to adopt the socialist “Model Cities Program.”

        You know, Detroit. The only city you can walk 12 blocks, and ***still*** be at the scene of the crime.

      43. tishie

        About 5 yrs. ago I was going through the bible (I’m not particularly religious but of curiosity) and found a date that represents our time period. I came up with the year 2016 (bible date from past to forward in present time) as a time when great tribulation and sacrifice would be upon humanity.
        I just moved on Saturday and have not even begun to empty files, so don’t remember where I saw this that so caught my attention, so sorry about that.

        SOoooo, 2015 just could be the beginnings of a Horror Show yet to rear it’s ugly head. Life is moving fast…….and not necessarily in a good way.

        Be Well, Be Safe, Be Prepared.

        • eppe

          Tishie, please give us the skinny on this, it would be nice to see that….

          • tishie

            @ Eppe

            When I empty files and journals from my move I will look it up directly.
            Sorry, I didn’t mean to cause confusion. A memory of looking at the date mentioned and years to pass before what can be expected to happen……my math led me to 2016…..which concerned me, leading to alternative news sites and other informative folks.

            Be Well

      44. Anonymous

        Loretta Lynch will replace Eric Holder. The first black woman to be selected as AG. The worse part is she used to be a VP at the Jooo house named Goldman Sachs.

        God please have Mercy on your creation. Take over of the tribe is not ending…..soon we’ll have Child Rapist to be selected for some post in the ZOG.

        Your vote for Republicans really was effective…. Congratulations America.

      45. Old Guy

        I dunno about finiancial collapse. however if the EBT SSI, social security and all the other government freebees & stipends are cut back or curtailed there will be riots. the folks in Belgium are rioting for that reason.

        • dave in Idaho

          @ old guy… agree, but the gimme dats are tptb and congress’s voting base. they will sqeeze the middle class (whats left of it) more with higher taxes and more fee’s, then give it to the nigs, white trash, illegal beaners and tweeks.

      46. MagnaCarta

        Keep in mind that I have been aware and had this type of input since the late 60s. It is only slightly different. So I ask, Why if the great collapse has been coming for about 50 years.
        Where the hell is it?
        I started buying gold and silver in 1974. I still have it. And more since. I have been stockpiling food and even moved to a farm in the mid 70s because the collapse was coming.
        Where is it?
        50,000 rounds of .22/308/223/306/12ga/38/357/40/44mag/45.
        Where are the bad guys and the Big collapse?
        Now it’s time to get BitCoin !

      47. TEST

        Very important post. The reality is, what we are doing is insurance. We don’t quit living our lives out of fear, nor do we assume that all will hunky dory. Leaving aside the ZOG arguments on this site, Jews in Germany were probably saying the same thing – we’ve been being warned now for almost 20 years. Yet one day calamity did come, and those that were not prepared lost everything, including their lives. So keep your silver and your rounds. Rotate what you can so money isn’t wasted with food. Hopefully, like my car and fire insurance, at the end of the year, I don’t say “Dang, I paid all that GOOD money and my house never burned down and I did NOT get in an accident!” Similarly, your preps. Let’s hope and pray we never need them; on the other hand, we can live in peace, knowing we are insured against what would destroy another family.

      48. al

        yes I hope for no collapse but it appears mathematically impossible under the current system which is why they have the next 3 systems already ready to go ,sigh , same as the so called patriot act , wrote 30 years b4 they were ready to use it ,they do indeed think long term , tho they have made at least one mistake and its quite possible that it will stop them for at least a generation or several )))))

      49. the Lone Ranger


        A few days ago, Hodges quoted a source from a high level meeting with an Oil CEO and 1-2 others as them saying no more oil was being refined.

        (as far as I know source not yet corroborated)

        BUT if it IS true, this can only mean WINTER PARALYSIS: NO heat, NO propane, NO gas, NO food!


        To allow onset of Russian and Chinese soldiers– ALREADY spotted here repeatedly– to wreak havoc, drag Americans to FEMA camps/Malls/Stadiums to be exterminated, etc. etc.

        It’s about to go down.

        What EVER they choose “it” to be, IT is about to go down!

        Forget about “guessing” as to WHEN, these people are conniving snakes and they want to kill us all (Christians, Jews, and others who will not submit to the NWO).

        No more oil being refined means their quarry (people like me and you) become ‘trapped’.

        That means if you are not already “bugged out”, you WON’T make it to your bug out location with not enough gas, OR you will encounter soldiers blocking major routes.

        My friends, THIS is the ULTIMATE Chess game– if THEY are the ones who say CHECKMATE, then YOU are ALREADY dead.

        Get right with God, prep, and pray. And for all the evildoers monitoring all these posts, God the Father has already said He would intervene– so make your choice now, because eternity in Hell is forever.

        – the Lone Ranger

        • durango kidd

          LR: Total bullshit from Dave Hodges. Exxon, Chevron, BP and other majors are vertically integrated oil companies, meaning that they refine the oil they produce.

          With the lower oil prices that will eliminate producers with higher break even production costs, the majors will and are making their profit through higher refining margins.

          Now I believe that DH is a complete fucking idiot!!! 🙂

          • Kevin2

            Actually the majors significantly divested themselves of the expensive and dangerous downstream (Refining) operations keeping only those that made the greatest profits with the minimal risk. Valero which strictly refines was born out of that strategy. Refining margins are unlikely to climb greatly because of an overcapacity in refining due to the US using 2 million less barrels / day as opposed to the pre “crash” of 2008. The small older expensive refineries without economies of scale have been shut down to a great degree as the majors were unwilling to invest in high cost environmental upgrades without a ROI Return On Investment.

            Interestingly the margins tend to immediately move opposite of that one would think when the price of oil first drops significantly. The refiners have pre bought their crude under contract and still pay the old price until said contracts are settled. It tends to move opposite when crude prices rise. This naturally equalizes in a month or two.

            The real money in oil is in E&P Exploration and Production. Refining is a feast or famine operation which is one of several resins the integrated majors have been divesting themselves of it.

            • Kevin2

              reasons not resins………oops.

              • durango kidd

                K2: All you say is true, but with a vertically integrated company like those I mentioned, the smaller producers without the cash hoards of the majors will be squeezed out of business: just like small banks, and small retailers, while the majors can still turn a profit.

                These companies sold off their US refining operations (as you mentioned) that were old and technologically out of date in response to new EPA rules and regs. They built new, bigger, and better refineries offshore.

                The target here is Russia but the fallout, excuse the pun, will affect small independents most. 🙁

                • Kevin2

                  Smaller producers? Valero refines 2 million bbls / day. That as they say “ain’t peanuts” and is about 12% of US usage.

                  The US is exporting refined fuel even while importing crude because of excess capacity.

                  The majors want little part of of refining because they’re focusing upon the big money exploration and production. Believe me Union Carbide’s accident in India decades ago frightened the living shit out out of the Refining and Chemical industry. That was the catalyst to divest that side of the business. Its also very difficult to import gasoline into the US because of the cocktail mix of blends for environmental concerns. Different areas even cities different blends. It just ain’t worth it.

                  The big money in oil is in crude.

          • badpuppydog

            Hodges won’t talk about the tribe. He’s useless unless you want to read yet another one of his predictions that won’t come true.

      50. Dan morgan

        Even a broken watch is right twice a day. Who knows when it all goes to hell? No one knows. All you can do is prepare the best you can and deal with trouble as it comes. In the mean time enjoy your life, your family and friends.

      51. Foxglove666

        More fear porn, move along folks….. We have been hearing fuckmegeddon was around the next 6-18 months for the lastt decade. We have already been in it since 9-11-01. You know, the opening salvo of WW III. The last 13 years have been a long, slow slide into the inevitable. Barring a black swan or false flag, the decline will continue on the same relatively steady pace. Just keep putting your money in tangibles and not the markets. At least your capital won’t be inflated away.

      52. kts532

        Angry Old White Guy, You have it in a nut shell

      53. kts532

        Lone Ranger, Don’t worry they are hauling oil like crazy. I live smack in the middle of a large oil field and the trucks are running day and night.

      54. Ed

        This man is spot on in his prediction. However the date will always be incorrect but the time is coming VERY soon.

      55. Woogie

        Doom sayers will always produce dates of calamity and produce extreme fear mongering, as long as there’s enough time for them to make money off it. When things look good, they ratchet up the hate and fear because they think they will lose money. Take these midterm elections for example which some blogs are spewing hate, no hope, insults, and fear that it is soooo terrible what happened that we are doomed.

        I used to be in business and I know the secret of selling…sway the masses to buy your products and tell them they can’t live without it because of —- (fill in the blank). Be dilligent before believing everything you read and why you buy their supplies, investments, and e-books. If you buy their goods and supplies they advertise, make sure you will use them without a huge disaster, or you are wasting your money.

      56. badpuppydog

        I’m so sick of idiots and their DATE SETTING. Fuck me running…if you predict something is going to happen every single fucking week you will be right eventually I suppose. A monkey could make those predictions by throwing a dart at a board.

      57. T. Gene Davis

        The authorities can’t handle small riots in one town (ie Ferguson). What’s going to happen when Greek or Argentine style economic riots happen here? The most annoying part of the coming economic collapse is that the people you know will be rioting and looting are the same ones that believe the economy is going great right now.

      58. 41MagMan

        “With polls showing some 74% of Americans are already angry or dissatisfied with the government, further economic hardship could prove to be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.”

        If this keeps up, the government will end up with a broken back. When that happens, it will be well earned and well deserved.

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