Dollar Dump Begins: Russia Unloads 20% Of Its Total U.S. Holdings In ONE Month

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    Earlier this week John Williams warned that hyperinflation will begin to appear in America sometime in 2015. He noted that, though the dollar is currently strong compared to other fiat money, signs that a currency collapse is coming will begin with the sell-off of the U.S. dollar.

    It’s a known fact that the Russians and Chinese have already begun divesting themselves of dollar dependency by implementing trade agreements that completely sidestep the world’s reserve currency, but there has been no overt sign of a sell-off that might be indicative of a coming attack on our currency.

    Until now, that is.

    According to a report from Zero Hedge the Russians have already started unloading their dollar reserves. In the month of December alone they sold a record $22 billion in U.S. Treasurys. While this may not seem like a big number, it is over 20% of their total US dollar holdings.

    But here’s the kicker: They’re not the only ones getting rid of their dollars in what appears to be a fairly uncommon sell-off over the course of the last 60 days.

    Back in December, Socgen spread a rumor that Russia has begun selling its gold. Subsequent IMF data showed that not only was this not correct, Russia in fact added to its gold holdings. But there was one thing it was selling: some $22 billion in US Treasurys, a record 20% of its total holdings, bringing its US paper inventory to just $86 billion in December – the lowest since June 2008.

    It wasn’t just Russia: the country that has ever more frequently been said to be in the same camp as Russia – and against the US – namely China, also sold another $6 billion in Treasurys in the last month of 2014, which would have made its US treasury holdings equal with those of Japan, if only Tokyo hadn’t also sold over $10 billion in the same month.

    And while we know that Russia used at least some of the proceeds to buy gold, the bigger question is: just what is China buying with all these stealthy USD-denominated liquidations, and how much gold does the PBOC really have as of this moment.

    Is Russia, after being under economic attack for the better part of a year, now starting to make its own moves? And are they working in unison with the Chinese in an effort to debase the dollar?

    World affairs analyst Joel Skousen recently made a compelling case against an imminent economic collapse, while others argue that the end is nigh for the U.S. economic, financial and monetary systems.

    Whatever the case, remain vigilant and prepare for the worst, because the hammer is going to drop sooner or later.

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        • Get out of paper…acquire gold, silver, and invest into systems that produce food and energy (fuel & electricity). That’s the new currency baby!

          • Nahh… By US$! US$ is backed by the government !
            Physical Gold is not backed by anything !
            As according to the statement by some bimbo on NBCCNN!

            • Bimbo? You mean the State Department spokeswoman that said all the ISIS terrorists need are “jobs”?

              If I wasn’t living it, I wouldn’t believe it……..

              • They need jobs…throw them in as scabs, as the west coast dockworkers feel they are not being treated fairly. Hey, I have even wondered if all those ships sitting 1-2 miles out werent filled with UN troops, tugboats unloading after dark. Just joking of course. These days you never know what their next trick might be.

              • Old Gringo, Don’t be so critical. The same people said, all we needed were midnight basketball courts in the gettto and that would give the black youts something to do and it would stop the intercity violence. So See! That worked so well, now all we have to do is give the ISIS boys a job. Problem Solved. Trekker Out. You Have To Think Outside The Box!

                • How ’bout give ’em jobs at McD’s …

                  • They can sell bacon cheeseburgers.

                    • Another reason that Germany fears and is softening its stance against Russia…

                      Germany, which has persistently failed to contribute its agreed share of the military budgets agreed by the NATO mutual defence organisation, has neglected its own military to such a point where they now lack basic equipment – such as guns. This discrepancy was farcically illustrated at a NATO joint exercise last year, which was intended to train and test the supposedly elite rapid reaction force, a collection of NATO units ready to deploy anywhere in the world at short notice to respond to crises. Despite the exercise having been planned years in advance, the German contingent found they didn’t have enough machine guns, and resorted to using black-painted broom handles instead… (This was also done as the US Army struggled to expand in anticipation of the eventual entry into WWII.)

                      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/19/german-army-reduced-to-using-broom-handles-instead-of-rifles/

                • Hey MT. If they gave us jobs, do you think they would take us off big siss’s domestic terrorist watch list. I agree what is coming out of the White House now, is just plain comical Like watching a Saturday night live skit on tv

                  • Okie its gonna get complicated out there. We’re going to give the ISIS guys from all over the world jobs, and we’re making the illeagals, legal so they can do all the jobs Americans won’t do. And everyone is on welfare. Next ISIS will be beheading Mexicans so they can get their jobs. I’m getting confused. This could be a win/win. Trekker Out.

                • Dana Loesch said on her program that if we went over there with a job fair and helped the terrorists start businesses, they’d love us ! One of her suggestions was

                  “Bed, Bloodbath and Beyond” Sick, but funny.

            • First time here, so I was just wondering, is there a SHTF “Plan”, or just a series of alarmist posts?

              • Just a series of alarmist posts.
                Go back to sleep. Nothing to see here.

              • Every so often there are links to junk to buy on Amazon lol.

              • The plan is prep and survive

              • Yeah, make your own “plan” and “prepare” to SURVIVE.

              • Actually, they have some interesting articles on this site, but I get most of my how-to knowledge from Youtube. Learned a lot of different skills from that site.

            • I had to laugh. Thanks I needed that. I assume this is sarcasm at it’s best?

              • Nope! It’s a true statement by a reporter. This is how stupid so many people are in the U.S.

                Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiXIs3bbETA

                That is the short version. There is a 14 minute version you can find if you want to watch the whole news report.

                • That is outrageous!

                  • Whats more outrageous and funny is this….that exact video was put up on this site back in 2011/2012 time frame and everyone laughed at it then. This site is really getting repetitive and cyclical.

            • I’d rather buy Rubles.

          • Means of food production. Farm equipment, heirloom seeds, a greenhouse, ducks or chickens or turkeys, bees, and lots of manure! If you can feed yourselves, you’ll need very little else.

            Oh, and lots of stabil to keep that 1000 gallon tank of gas from going bad…

            • Hammer’s Thor

              Various Executive Orders give the tyrant “authority” to seize from us everything of value.
              Food, water, fuel, wealth and your very person for forced labor. When that happens, those confiscations must be met by whatever force is necessary. I don’t expect too many of the youngsters who will be busting down our doors read SHTF but they need to know they WILL BE resisted.

              Against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC.

              • Indeed. I probably should have included “method of reloading” in the above post. I live in an area where TPTB would be very hard-pressed to confiscate anything from anybody without an enormous cost to themselves. It takes thousands of tons of food and fuel to keep an army going. It takes a lot less to maintain a guerilla army of sharpshooters (AKA hunters). Everyone here knows how to kill a deer at 100 yards, and most can nail a wild boar at 300. Kneecaps on blue-helmets will be child’s play. And don’t think for a second that hillbillies can’t improvise ways to disable bridges and other “armored” vehicles.

                When the shooting starts, I can almost guarantee that all of their plans will be out the window. With any luck, they will understand that no matter where they go, (TPTB) they will meet resistance of the highest order (except in the northeast or California). They would have no chance. Somehow, I think they may already know this…

                • Hammer,
                  you are correct and that is why things have slowed down and they are tryiing a different way to control us and that is the flooding of the US with aliens and lots of them are Muslims. they think they can start a civil war and just let that finish off the real US people and they may have a point!

                  • Apache……..if you’ve got it drilled into your mind that “Muslims are the problem”, you have already lost and little hope remains. You have been programmed by the 9/11 Asswipes.
                    The problem is and has been the same for the past 60 years……..the implementation of Planet America upon the good people of Planet Earth…….THEY DONT WANT IT.
                    Look, I have nothing against the average American…..nothing at all, and wish them peace, happiness and prosperity.
                    But…..the CIA, NSA, FBI, US Government……ALL…..are a bunch of kunts, complete and utter.
                    They are why the world HATES America.
                    America forces it’s will onto every other nation, then has the hyde to call this US Foreign Policy.
                    Well…….here’ s a tip. Listen in close.
                    Here’s the rest of the planet’s “US Policy”……….”MUSHROOM CLOUD”.
                    Then…….back to life as it was meant to be.
                    Unless you good people USE YOUR 2nd Ammendment to rid yourself of these parasites, someone from outside your nation will BE FORCED to do it with nuclear weapons, and unfortunately take away a lot of fine, upstanding people out with them.
                    I hope that never happens.
                    The world needs rid of the current US REGIME……we all recognise that much.
                    It would be wise then to remember the words of Edgar Cayce and think deeply on them:
                    “The hope of the world springs forth out of Russia”.

                    • A lot of what you say is true however,I don’t respond well to threats from the govt or you.

                • Kneecaps, that’s a term I haven’t heard for a long time. I have been thinking about the attempt to ban types of body Armour and all I could think of “we never had any in Nam and wonder why the powers that be think it will protect them in any confrontation with knowledgeable vets.Just wondering…

                  • Old Nam,
                    as you well know that body armor does not work with armor piercing ammo and most of us have lots of that!

                    • Not true. It may go through but it will have a hell of a lot less bite. Better to have it than not.

                • Don`t assume it will be blue helmets. It will be our own people that attack us.
                  Granted, there are UN related people that watch our elections,but armed folks in blue, I don`t see that. It would make some things easier though.

                • Study them and learn their habits too. They’ll want to go home at some point. Hit ’em there. My guess is 75% of them will swap sides for their own family’s sake. Especially the older ones. The young/dumb will fight for awhile longer but will eventually find their ranks thinning-out quickly.

              • Executive orders don’t stop bullets.

                • Nobama,

                  The president needs to issue an executive order to suspend the physical laws surrounding ballistics for all those declared disloyal to the traitors in the District of Criminals. Then, they’d be safe. Surely he will do that soon.

              • Roger that… You don’t posses what you can’t protect.

              • John_Allen:

                Does the War Powers Act, or the declaration of war that Obama as ask congress for allow the POTUS freedom to enforce his executive orders?

                I have researched this and it looks to be so. If that is true, he would not have to declare martial law as the executive orders seem to cover most everything that martial law would cover.

                Any thoughts on this?

              • “Gives him the right to seize”……..Doesn’t mean he’ll be successful

                • “Gives him the right power to seize”……..Doesn’t mean he’ll be successful

                  Fixed it for ya!

            • What sucks to me, is that the category of “heirloom seeds” even has to exist. What I mean is, there should be nothing else BUT real seeds. The propagation of GMOs has forced us to arrange seeds into categories like REAL (heirloom) and Not Real (GMO). Does that make sense?

              • Sixpack:

                Surely Monsanto muzzies poisoning your food, don’t you think?

                Same as the muzzies at big pharma, fda, and cdc filling us full of toxic vaccines.

                • I don’t know whether monsanto is run by muzzies or not, but I do know GMOs are poisonous to animals and people.

                  • Six:

                    I guess I needed to post “sarcasm” in my post. Of course the muzzies do not own Monsanto.

                    Nor do they own/run anything in the rest of my post.

              • There aren’t very many GMO crops on the market. Only Corn, Soybeans, Canola, Cotton, Sugar Beets, Alfalfa, Papaya, and Zuchinni have GMO cultivars available and so should be easy to avoid. Most people buy heirlooms only because with hybrids you can’t easily control what the offspring are going to be. Beyond that, hybrids are just fine to stock as far as seeds go. You just won’t be able to control future generations of you propagate from your own crops.

              • Uh, you DO realize hybrid seed has been around 150 years or so, right ?

                Mendel experimented with pea varieties in 1850’s to breed the best characteristics into new varieties, and we’ve been off to the races ever since.

                Sure, GMO is tinkering on the very basic genetic level, far beyond what was done to produce hybrid seed, but I’ll almost guarantee ya most people have never had any sweet corn, for example, that was “heirloom”

                Yes….before somebody jumps in there, there are some open pollinated varieties, but the vast majority of sweet corn, or tomatoes, (just as examples) are hybrid. You plant that seed back, you will NOT get the same thing.

                • @TnAndy, I think the concern about GMO seeds is the transfer of genes from one species to another rather than cross breeding strains of a particular plant. Do we really want wheat with potato genes, or sheep with fish genes that glow in the dark?

                  Studies in Europe show GMO food produces cancers in lab animals. A little common sense goes a long way; unfortunately it gets in the way of profits. We are what we eat.

                  • When talking about garden seeds , NOT crop seed, most Hybrids are cross bred varieties for uniform growth and high yield .
                    Seldom are “garden seeds” GMO , its just too expensive.

                    But i agree, we have alot to learn about genetic modifications , but other than screwing up non GMO crops i really dont see how its harmful healthwise.
                    But i am allong way from bein a scientist , I really think its more about control of the food supply.
                    Monsanto trademarks all their shit , so sooner or later we will hafta pay THEM for more seeds yesr after year because the seeds cannot be saved.
                    Just my uneducated opinion .

                    • Having said that, Two years ago i grafted a jonathan apple splice the a red delicious trying to create an apple that would store longer in a root cellar.
                      Ask me in one year……..
                      But technically , its a hybrid .

                    • Hammerhead:

                      Have you done any research on why GMO is banned in most of Europe? Might be that it is very detrimental to humans, no?

                    • POG-
                      They are banned in Europe because they destroy natural varieties.
                      I didnt think they were banned for health reasons.
                      But i am all for banning the crap either way.
                      Its just another way to stop people from feeding themselves. CONTROL and money !!!

                    • Technically, apple trees are grafts, not hybrids.

                      Also all of them are done the way you did yours…a graft is taken from an existing variety, and put on the rootstock of something else….often crab apple. New varieties come from natural mutations mostly (such as the Golden Delicious, for example), and once discovered, are spread by grafting.

          • We’ve been hearing about the collapse of the dollar since at least 1973, that’s when I bought my first book on the subject, “The Dying Dollar” 1972. I read it assiduously and then bought my first handful of silver dollars because gold wasn’t legal until the following year. Well boys and girls that was 42 years ago and we’ve been through some serious market downturns, the OPEC oil crisis of 1973 and beyond and no crash yet. Inflation yes; from 1973 to 2014 something that cost $1.00 now costs $5.48 on average but no collapse-YET.

            • Best post I’ve read on here in a while.

            • What’s your definition of a dollar collapse? I would say a currency that’s lost 97% of it’s purchasing power over the last 100 years has collapsed. Gold/Silver have maintained their purchasing power throughout the ages. Dollars are needed in our daily lives for sure but Gold/Silver will help you survive on the other side of the paradigm shift that’s underway. Bubbles are never seen when one stands inside. The Bond Bubble, the one Greenspan spoke of, is here and now. Not sure how many dollars it will take to buy a loaf of bread one day but it could be more than what will fit in your pockets…

              • 97% over 100 years is not a collapse. Its a trend. A bad trend, yes, but not a “collapse”. 🙁

            • Yes, I will most likely die of old age before I get rich from the gold and silver that I own.

        • The “Scam” goes much much much deeper and it is much older than you think.

          Ancient Egypt is the source of our problems today. The truth is that the cult of Aton (NATO) has been playing us for much longer than you can imagine.

          http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/chapter-ten.html

          http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/chapter-forty-one.html

          http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices-1.html

          Seek, and you will find that what we need is the foundation of truth. We must take that step to end this long cycle of evil – created chaos.

          A society based on lies will always destroy itself.

          What’s the opposite of (evil)?

          Learn to (live).

          The truth will set you free.

          What we know today as the Bible has been tampered with by man, period.

          • The worst post I have seen in a while, including the unsupported, embarrassing proposition that the Bible has been “tampered with.” Then, to add insult to injury, the author then quotes the Bible. Go figure. Tell me, have you even heard of FF Bruce? NT Wright? John Stott Do you have the intellectual honesty to even review what they have to say? And if you have not read these scholars, I submit you have zero right to comment on the integrity of the Scriptures until you do.

            The truth is that there is NOTHING not even the nearest solar system that has the support of the Bible. And of course, archeologists spades keep turning up more and more evidence every year that utterly disproves your unsupported contention. Of course, nary a word on your research on the Dead Sea Scrolls, which further disproves your contention. Worse, where there are an extremely few variant readings – NOT one of which has any theological significance, this proves, ipso facto, that there was no collusion – otherwise there would be no variants, by definition. If memory serves, the Dead Sea scrolls show something like on tiny change, something along the lines of “light” becoming “great light” due to a supercript of something similar…. but I would have to look it up. Jack Kapica once wrote how archeologists were working in a palace area that was burned in Jerusalem by invaders, and a seal referred to in the Bible was found EXACTLY where the Bible described it as being. Exactly as in “exactly.” (Reported by in the Toronto Globe and Mail in 1993)

            With all due respect, when you pontificate I strong suggest you do your due diligence before posting opinions. Also with all due respect, my experience is that most people who maintain stuff like this have done little to no research on the issue, which is very disappointing, and not just a little intellectually dishonest. I trust you are not one of those

            • I respectfully disagree sir.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

              It is a well known historical FACT that certain people have edited the Bible throughout history.

              I have a number of Bibles, all different, supposedly the greek translation is the best, but I question it all. I also own the Tanakh, and catholic bibles that have more books than included like the KJV Protestant etc.

              Who decided this?

              Perhaps man erred friend.

              Did you even look at the material I referenced, or is your AGRUEMENT PURELY SPURIOUS?

              Some substance please.

              We can look at this together.

              My theory based on what I have found is clearly outlined.

              I think we have been lied to. Yes, perhaps 90% of the Bible is truth, but what about the 10% or even .01%. You are not supposed to add, take away, change, or omit God’s word, period.

              The truth opposes fake history and the propaganda.

              • One more thing my friend, steering our society toward the foundation of truth, will bring us closer to God, regardless. It must happen, and it will.

              • Yeah seeker, only listen to scholars, because Yahwey only uses the learned and worldly educated to convey His word and message.

                WHAT A LOAD OF HOG EXCREMENT!! The bible most certainly has been messed with from the very beginning…this is one of hasatan’s greatest tricks and deceptions he has used on modern mankind. Do you look to the stars for the answers or do you look to the maker of the stars? Likewise, you should look to the Father of the church and not the church fathers. Men that found it in their own authority to change the calendar, feast’s / holiday’s and Yahwey’s shabbat……to trick man into worshipping the same pagan gods as man had before instead of the true Creator. Now the internet is literally full of so many red herrings and boogie men it isn’t funny, when in reality, ANY AND ALL that distract or take away from the true Creator, Yahwey and His commands, are evil and lead to death. I will even go as far as saying that I am beginning to “wonder” if the mark of the beast isn’t actually, not only those who don’t know and worship Yahwey at all, but all those who follow the deception of hasatan through the modern day “church”.

        • Jeb Bush Believes Unconstitutional NSA Spying Is “Hugely Important”

          Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/21/2015 – 15:45
          Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is seriously considering a run for the White House in 2016, said Wednesday that the National Security Agency’s program that collects bulk telephone records was “hugely important,” throwing his support behind the practice as Congress debates whether to reauthorize or limit it. At an event on foreign policy hosted by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Mr. Bush, a Republican, said, “For the life of me, I don’t understand the debate” over the metadata program.
          ————–

          What’s the difference between an Obama and a Bush? Answer: one is black; the other is white.

        • Thanks for the disgusting and shocking photo that your link goes to!

        • All Americans should dump the dollar, and demand from your employers to be paid in silver coins. Then all Americans should change their names to Jack Shit. Because the Government does not know Jack Shit. That should entirely confuse them and then there will be no way to track you. WWTI

      1. Before long, all those dollar bills will be back on our own shores, what will happen then???

        • We’ll send them to Venezuala to alleviate the toilet paper shortage. Problem solved!

          • Good reply, makes one wonder what’s next to change, affect our lives, and where this all is going???
            Bless all here…

          • A one dollar bill met a twenty dollar bill and said, “Hey, where’ve you been? I haven’t seen you around here much.” The twenty answered, “I’ve been hanging out at the casinos, went on a cruise and did the rounds of the ship, back to the United States for awhile, went to a couple of baseball games, to the mall, that kind of stuff. How about you?” The one dollar bill said, “You know, same old stuff… church, church, church.” accessories for it.
            No harm intended….

            • Now there’s the perfect relation of churches and strip bars.

              • …you have to stuff dollar bills into both.

                • Next time when the collection plate comes around take some money out. Then tell the next person “God Helps those who help themselves.” Maybe you are short for groceries, maybe gas money or movie tickets. Doesn’t mater. take it. God loves you either way.

              • I’m living in the mountains of NC and about 1/3 of the population (or more!) are either homeless or on the verge of being homeless…mostly they live in the National Forests. Most are veterans but also one family (a young man, wife and kid).

                So many people are living on “the edge” (Including myself!) I can’t help wondering what will happen when things REALLY collapse??!! already, a large percentage of the population don’t have homes or cars. what happens when they don’t have food either??!

                I’m not just talking about scumbags–people too lazy to work or druggies– I’m talking about regular people –veterans or old men with drinking problems… its so sad… I guess there will be a lot of stealing from stores– what else can they do??!

                • Well … as Gerald Celente would say

                  “when people lose everything, and they have nothing else to lose, they lose it.”

                  NC is not alone in this homelessness problem, as a Michigan resident myself. I’m surprised there hasn’t been some kind of uprising already…Iduno…maybe they are waiting for warmer weather when Spring decides to show up.

                  • “When spring shows up.”

                    Check with Al Gore and his BIG GREEN MONEY AGW circus. There ignorant models might show something. Or more likely, not

                    • I saw an article the other day about Utah giving the homeless a home; that is a place to stay of their own, rather than a shelter, or living on the street.

                      It said that typically, a homeless person cost the community $24k a year; but that by giving them a free apartment the cost dropped to $8k a year.

                      Who knew? Free shit for everyone!!! 🙂

                • I saw an article the other day about Utah giving the homeless a home; that is a place to stay of their own, rather than a shelter, or living on the street.

                  It said that typically, a homeless person cost the community $24k a year; but that by giving them a free apartment the cost dropped to $8k a year.

                  Who knew? Free shit for everyone!!! 🙂

              • NOBAMA,.Yeah, both rape you of your wealth and dignity.

            • In our house it’s the twenty that gets used at church, and the dollar bills for shopping! Lol

              • Giving any money to any Organized Church is a Fools choice. Nothing guarantees you a seat in heaven no matter how much the Pastor or Priest lies to you. You are just a fool giving away your wealth like a sucker play. Instead buy food and ammo and get your family in position to get through the hard times. Stupid people get duped and fleeced every day by organized religion.

                • It’s not the church we are giving it to, it’s God himself. And for that, he has blessed us many times over , so I can prep faster than I thought I would be able to….it’s an investment in my future, both here and hereafter….

        • Before long, all those dollar bills will be back on our own shores, what will happen then???

          Deranged Coot says “deflation.”

          Which means you should really do your OWN research, instead of leaning someone like Coot, who is a big talker, but clearly doesn’t know WHAT he’s talking about…

          Protect yourself from massive inflation or hyperinflationary collapse… Precious metals, useful commodities, guns & ammo, etc. You know the drill, basically the same stuff you should have on-hand for a SHTF situation…

        • The dollar isn’t worth anything anyway.

      2. Eppe –

        We’ll have lots of fire starter fuel for the fireplace, or toilet paper if need to be.

        • Tony:

          Please go back to prior subject where you told me about the 5 thumbs down and the 1 thumb up.

          My computer, at this time shows 4 up and 3 down on my post. What happened to the 5 down if it now shows 3 down. I realize both up and down can be added to, but subtracted?

          Let me know at what time you look at that post. Are the thumbs being manipulated, and if so, who at SHTF management will be held responsible?

          I will look for your answer and what your computer says
          now back at your original post. Thanks!

          • POG –

            I replied back to you on the other article.
            In the beginning the thumbs had 1 up and 5 down …(i think)
            Then when I posted back, it had 3 thumbs up and 5 down.
            I really don’t think the Thumbs UP & Down have much importance, well at least to me anyways.

            • You can go back and change your vote later, which would subtract from one and give to the other.

              • You mean to tell me that the sacred ” thumbs” are being evilly manipulated somehow by the major international conspirators? Oh, the HORROR!!!!!!

              • BJ:

                You cannot make a 5 thumbs down become a 3. I could care less except all of us want to think that what ever is happening behind the scenes at SHTF is on the up and up.

                • Ha! I could care less about the thumbs down, that’s why I’m shitting my pants about it on every post, because I don’t care.

                • Yes you can, if two people who voted down changed their minds and changed their vote….but that would increase the up vote at the same time.

                  The fact that conversations are still on going about the childish facebook style thumb voting says a lot IMO about the decision to have them the first time, much less bring them back AGAIN. This site hit it’s pinnacle right before the “reply” button was added and the 100 advertisements.

                • Damn Thumb suckers…who cares.

          • Dear Granny:
            Please relax & don’t you fret
            none about them thumbs.
            And remember your blood
            pressure medicine!
            – Your pal, Chuck

            • Thanks Chuck:

              Being a prior owner of 6 fitness franchises I don’t need big pharma’a meds.

              Diet and exercise is the “magic pill” to stay healthy. Saw lots of ladies get off their meds once they started a fitness program. Nice to have been in a business that helped people……

      3. eppe: The same thing that is happening now. Those returning dollars flow into the stock markets.

        This flow allows the banks to stop pumping the markets to keep them up, and allows the banks to use the dollars they have to write down (assimilate) more foreclosures, while maintaining their liquidity ratios.

        This phenomena happens EVERY cycle. 🙂

        • BTW, I described this process a year ago. Its in the archives. 🙂

          • One more thing. It is totally expected that Russia would dump their dollar holdings.

            Why hold your enemy’s currency when you have the ability to print it, almost perfectly; as we can theirs?

            If they sold all of their dollars tomorrow it would not have any lasting effect upon the dollar; only on the value that they would get for it.

            War IS on the horizon and both sides are prepping for it. 🙁

          • DK,you predicted a year ago a country would dump US currency,any intelligent 1st grader that can do basic math figured that one out!

            • Warchild: No I didn’t predict a country would dump its dollars. I described the process of dollars returning to the USA as they do every business cycle, via the international investors.

              Anyone who follows the markets, economy, and business cycle over 40 years, CAN see it coming.

              Most of the folks here do not have that experience, therefore they do not have that knowledge. 🙂

          • It’s in the archives…
            You telling me the Russians and Chinese were NOT dumping the dollar..WWTI can back me up on this…
            So which is it?…what convenient truth do you have today?

            Live Free or Die…hey mister..can you spare a dime?
            Talon1776

            • Talon: Yes, Russia is dumping dollars and buying rubles to protect its value, using 20% of its currency reserves to stem the time over the past six months.

              China is selling some US DEBT to finance acquisitions overseas. It is also a BUYER of US Dollars to suppress its currency and protect its export base. 🙁

              • tide

                • Tide DK,now what in the frigging hell does laundry detergent and the dumping of the dollar have to do with each other!?I suppose you could mean “laundering money”?

                  • WD: ” …..currency reserves to stem the time over the past six months.”

                    Tide not time. How’s that wash for you? 🙂

                    • Well,the wash is fine as long as you separate your whites and your coloureds,and thus,call it “Apartide”!Shit,laundry jokes on a Saturday night,I really need to go home,6′ of snow or not!

            • That’s right Talon.

        • DK, but what is the outcome of said flow? Is it a neverending cycle between different indexes? Sloshing cash back and forth before the whole casino collapses? Makes one wonder, where is that crystal ball the tells the future???
          You think Exxon will be a buy at the oil bottom???
          Want to predictate a bottom of Exxon?
          I say 60$ in 2 years, just a guess….

          • The outcome of said flow? Into the markets you mean, I suppose. Today, investors make money on volatility as predicted by Richard Nye in his book: The Wall Street Gang. I read it 40 years ago.

            (Out of print. Try a library or Wiley & Sons.)

            Will the stock markets crash? Of course they always do, eventually. However the PTB have been very successful in ratcheting them up and down as I suggested last August here. The key is whether corporate earnings keep up to expectations.

            The pigs who stay at the trough too long get slaughtered first because they are the fattest. Take some profit and protect your downside risk. 🙂

            • As for Exxon, I don’t know because I don’t follow the company religiously. I saw a report that said Buffet dumped his Exxon stock.

              We are in the middle of an energy technology revolution. Exxon has the cash to buy its way out of trouble, but in a real war their rigs would be prime targets. The impact upon its stock would be catastrophic.

              He always thinks ahead. Its got him this far. I wouldn’t bet against him. 🙂

            • DK, we have been here a long time, I often wondered what ‘business’ you have your fingers in?
              Not being too personal, be anbigious??? spelling…
              And a call on Exxon…
              Just for shits and giggles….

              • My background is real estate and finance; banking at the national level, and mining interests.

                I got mine. Get one. 🙂

                • Amazing how you are in Nevada, I am in Jawja, and we can respond to each other in minutes, fiber optics are cool…
                  Place a number on Exxon bottom????
                  In 2 years? I say 60$

                  • eppe: I am in Arizona, but I know where Nevada is on a map. 🙂

                    The bottom for Exxon two years out? LMAO! My magic eight ball must be refreshed every 30 days now. Events are contracting the timeline.

                    I do not believe that we have two years before the SHTF in a big way. Buckle up. 🙁

                    • Sorry for location, 6 beers deep, hope you are on the same wavelength, just saying….

                  • eppe

                    If your going to go with oil XOM is the huge guy. I made a lot in refining years ago when one plus one equaled two. How can one accurately predict today with so many unknown variables and down right unknowns is beyond me.

                    • K2, that is what I was trying to convey, where to place money in these turbelent times???

                    • eppe

                      Because of the blatant manipulation, QE back feed of money from the banks into the market, financial reports and government data with cherry picked inputs creating trash in / trash out, the only people that have any ability to truly know are those doing the manipulation.

                      In plain english its now more luck than science.

                    • eppe: Try tax liens. Should give you at least 8%. Pick a location near you that you like, follow the tax lien reports, know which properties you like, use Google street view or drive the property and buy the lien.

                      The property owner has a right of redemption that would at least give you a sweet return; maybe a nice property.

                      Take a shot at that. Michigan use to return 16%. Not sure now. Can’t lose your money. Might make a bundle. Forget Detroit. 🙂

                    • DK, Have looked into that, just felt uneasy with the way my county has done me before. But good advice.
                      Hope all is well wih you. Prosper my friend…

                    • Good to hear that you have a conscience, Eppe.

                    • I am going to invest my money in hair. A lady friend of mine has a patch about an inch wide, an six inches long. She made over a $100,000 with it last year!

                    • DK, Unless you are buying tax liens as a charitable act for the debtors, you are a “tax farmer.”

                      Tax farming was/is a specialty of the synagogue (cause) and it resulted in pogroms (effect).

                      winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/03/tax-farming-talmudic-agriculture.html?zx=6d536616f93d263c

                    • DK, Unless you are buying tax liens as a charitable act for the debtors, you are a “tax farmer.”

                      Tax farming was/is a specialty of the synagogue (cause) and it resulted in pogroms (effect). Why make yourself an oppressor? Why risk the payback?

                      winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/03/tax-farming-talmudic-agriculture.html?zx=6d536616f93d263c

                • Those “interests” aren’t the only things you have a “background” in.

                • Yeah, like FCX, who you advised was bad and run from here.

                  I am glad I thought to buy some, since you said not to to another poster……funnything I think?

                  Since just 1-30-15, I have made quite a few pretty pennies from that investment 🙂

                  People, stop listening to this tool. Or listen, and do the opposite……LoL

                  • BJ: Fundamentally it is bad so I wouldn’t buy it as I expect the economy to decline this year and the bubble to burst. But the market is not run on fundamentals any more, but speculation, so anything can happen.

                    Other stocks with declining earnings and declining prospects in a recession are also rising in price. If you follow zero hedge you should know this. There is no logical rationale for much of the market rise.

                    All of those investor dollars flowing back to the US have to find a place to park and FCX is the biggest copper miner. So its a flight to safety more so than an expectation of superior performance.

                    And a belief by the Sheeple that the good times are just around the corner. 🙂

        • And the bond market also. 🙂

      4. Russians don’t take a dump son, without a plan.

        • I agree. If I were Putin I would sever my connection to the NWO too.

          Drop the value of my currency to spur development of my national economy from within.

          Things he should have done already with the “peace dividend” but he didn’t. He and his cronies were to busy enriching themselves once in power; just like republicans and democrats do, but without the limitations. 🙁

          • Does Russia have enough US dollars to have a significant impact?

            • In a word: NO. 🙂

              • I think we’re experiencing the dollar strength DK and others predicted, for a short time before USA augers in for a spectacular finish.

                • Young MC: The dollar strengthens relative to other currencies every time at this point in the business cycle.

                  The PTB would prefer a lower dollar to increase exports.
                  They can’t push the dollar down no matter how high they try. 🙁

                  • hard

            • its a trust issue, if Russia and China dont want them nobody else needs them.

              • Alice, you got it it is not that they are dumping it, it is what lost of other countries will do,if lots of them follow suit and then the snowball effect will happen

                • Think about it from this perspective too, if ALL other currencies are dropping relative to the $ why wouldnt you just conduct trade in a currency that is more similar to your own?
                  The dlloar is strong, that appears good for us but in reality it is very bad, but then again if i wanted to destroy a country and its economy that would be one of the best ways to do it, make their products unaffordable to the average person.

                  • Kula: Why? Because if your currency is lower than those with whom you trade, you can sell them more goods and services, protect your country’s jobs, and increase your nation’s prosperity.

                    This is the intent of the NWO with their program of FREE TRADE: transfer American wealth and American jobs offshore while profiteering from low wages and manipulated currency.

                    Thus the recent race to the bottom. 🙁

                    • DK –

                      Your right again, and I can recall the day(s) when people where looking forward to NAFTA/GATT getting introduced. Thinking it was going to benefit us somehow. H’mm, I wonder if those same people think its still great.

                      But wait… we have the TPP (trans-pacific partnership) aka, NAFTA on Steroids …. can’t wait for that one too …<—[sarcasm]

              • Alice: Not true. Russia doesn’t want them because they are preparing for war and hoping to find other disgruntled nations to join them.

                China sells American debt to finance its acquisitions abroad as designed by the NWO Plan to make them a Full Partner and Managing Director in the New World Order.

                China BUYS dollars on the open FX market with Yuan to suppress their currency’s value to maintain the export advantage. No one profits more than China from this imbalance except the Central Bankers who will profit tremendously as the Yuan eventually rises.

                Other Central Banks are happy to accept these cheap Yuan because it integrates China into the NWO System, and EVENTUALLY Chinese Yuan (and Indian Rupee) will be much stronger like the US Dollar as China (and India) maximizes its internal development.

                All at your American taxpayer expense.

                That’s why 50 million Americans are on food stamps, 100 million Americans, out of the workforce, and more than 60,000 factories with the loss of 70 million American jobs lost offshore.

                Death to the New World Order. 🙂

            • The only country I know of that could dump the Dollar and leave the USA flat out broke is —– Saudi Arabia

              • Yes Tony, but SA needs American military protection from Iran just like Americans need more security to protect US from “terrorists”. 🙁

                • DK –

                  That’s really the whole point of the Bretton Woods Agreement with SA, and it’s other collaborators in the area.

                  Gov: “here’s the deal Prince, we will buy your huge oil supply…but in return, you must accept our US Dollars and we will give you protection from any outside agitators.”

                  Prince: “ok,that sounds like a great plan”

                  Bretton Woods – keeps the Petro-Dollar alive.

                  Until other Nations are tired of the abuse of it.
                  Like any top trading currency, the dollar will eventually in time be replaced. Does it get replaced or does a new currency get born? This I’m not sure of, but either way it will not be good for anybody when the change comes.

                  • Agreed Tony, every currency gets replaced, and historically currencies cycle through gold to fiat and back again to gold.

                    Does it move back to metals again? I don’t think so.

                    Within a few years Quantum computing will ensure a secure online environment, meaning digital currency for everyone and total control of our financial lives by the PTB:

                    “as none can buy or sell without the mark of the beast”.

                    Not a desirable future as far as I can tell. 🙁

      5. Don’t worry, Joel Skousen said nothing bad will ever happen.

      6. Dollars don’t make good toilet paper. They aren’t very absorbent.

        I suspect there is a lot of necessities that are being purchased to tide over Russia and China while the dollar devalues. What could foreign governments need that would bolster their position while undermining ours? Mostly resources to supply factories, fill the manufacturing pipelines with cheap materials, and employ their populations with PRODUCTIVE jobs, not “You want fries with that?” Or “Welcome to Wal-Mart” low pay / low reward work.

        It was manufacturing that built this country, but now that has been exported, along with our capacity to PRODUCE everything the rest of the world wanted to buy.

        Look for ore, timber, strategic materials, mining agreements, and so on to be the targets of their treasury bills leaving their shores.

        Just a thought.

      7. With the rug moving the way it is now under us, how much longer will we be able to stand up, not long. To the choir prepare even more.

      8. Never EVER trust a communist

      9. Hey guys, first time poster, long time reader. Finally a good read with good comments!! Where does this info show up (on these sell offs of US bonds?)

        As a guy sitting on a rig in the GOM, your idea of us as a targeted strike, makes sense, but it’s a lot closer to home than 5th Fleet and my old job!!

        Keep up the good info, I prefer some insight vs just plain ole complaining.

      10. Shouldn’t be GW’s picture on the dollar above but Oshit’s with a big blunt hanging out of his soup coolers.

        • …..and wearing a pirate eye patch to boot.

      11. A quick story on inflation. I went to the supermarket today. At the deli I could see the price of cole slaw was $3.49 a pound. I said to the lady…”what happened to $1.99 a pound”? She said “that was last year”.

        • Plus the “pound” seems to be getting smaller.

          • The weight itself may not be, when it is stated as such, but the way things are being packaged to look like they are the normal weight they have always been when they no longer are certainly has.

            An easy example would be the next time you go to a grocery store look at the ice cream cartons, you’ll find the normal 2 quart looking carton is still there -at least one meant to look like it- but it is no longer a full 2 quarts in most cases (everything else as well, but this is easy to identify without any ambiguity since almost everyone has bought it this way before).

            Rolls of napkins and toilet paper and facial tissue now have fewer sheets in them (in the unlikely event that anyone ever noticed the sheet count number in the past when they purchased it). The industry actually has a name for this package shrinkage, it’s called “de-sheeting”.

            It’s done to avoid price increases being noticed by the consumer by giving them less for the same price instead of charging more for the same amount, and it works on a surprisingly large percentage of consumers.

            Packaging something with less in it in a manner to make it look the same is a basic dishonesty, I see it as the “dishonest weights and measures” mentioned in the Bible as being hated by the Lord.

            Anyone calling themselves Christian should not be involved in such practices to any extent at all.

            • Yea, a one pound bag of flour is now 14oz,
              16 oz can of soup now 12 0z even bottles with spices have less in them, same package less product, chip bags same thing, smaller bags less product, 25# bag of rice used to be the norm, now are either 22.5 or 23# and cost more than the 25s did, same with pasta, almost all are packaged 2oz less than they used to be,

            • It started back in the 1970s with candy bars. For a number of years I was working in a store and kept up with the sizes and prices, because I noticed that the candy makers would make candy bars slightly larger and raise the price a nickel. Then they would make the candy bars slightly smaller and sometimes even add the words “Still ___ cents!” They repeated that over and over, and I saw candy bars go from 10 cents to 25 cents in just two or three years. Now they don’t even bother to try hiding the increases. They just make the prices higher. Of course the giant-size huge candy bar that costs a fortune now is not much bigger than the nickel candy bar used to be.

              They haven’t changed the pasta packages here yet, but they have changed sugar and ice cream. The only good thing about the sugar is that 4 lbs. exactly fits a 2-liter soda bottle. As long as sugar is less than 50 cents a pound here, I’ll keep stocking up.

            • To Sharon, et al on the subject of sizes. A square of toilet paper is soon going to be the size of a business card & a kleenex will be 1/2 the size it is now.

              Florida girl

          • Some unscrupulus meat packagers some times add steam or water to hamburger, this adds weight.
            So a pound CAN shrink .

      12. So what else is new ?

        We have Marines surrounded by isis.
        We have people getting burned alive, or beheaded.
        We have a shrinking dollar.
        We have friendly countries now pissed off at us.
        We have pissed off citizens here about ready to flick off.
        We have illegals carrying sickness etc. coming over here.
        We have the middle class dying.
        We have tough our children how to be on well fair.
        We have rumors of war.
        We have limp dick politicians

        And it goes on and, on

        Bottom line we are F–KED!!!!!!!!!!!!

        YOU WANTED CHANGE YOU GOT IT………

        YOU KNOW WHOSE FAULT IT IS………..

        SO STOP YOUR WINING ………

        SOMEONE PLEASEEEEEEEE HIT!!!!! RESET…………….

      13. correction learned our children

      14. Russia and China is not to blame for the fiat $US droping and it is the FED you need to blame for printing so many bits of paper that are backed up by the aggresion of the USA.

        The FED printing money is steeeling it from your pocket but as always the bankers want to blame someone else and they will start a nuclear war with China/Russia so thet they don’t have millions of americans asking for their 401k

        Both the FED and the IMF are owned by Zionist bankers and your standard of living will continue to decline untill these two are held to account for wide spread corruption and bribes.

        • Those 401Ks only exist as a number in thin air, as more people who invested in IRAs and 401Ks start requesting their money these criminals try everything to talk them out of cashing them in,
          I have seen this first hand, and the government penalizes you by taxing all of it,
          The government is nothing but a bunch of freaking criminals at this point.
          Yea theres millions dependent on their schemes, how is that a good thing?

          • So get a self-directed IRA. I have one, where I have a rental property.

      15. People I don’t care what shit they spew but china will never stop dealing with the us economy their whole existence depends on it look at all the made in China crap around your house. China will of course manipulate their currency. The thing being unloaded in this country is wages for labor nobody talks about it but this is one thing I agree with democrats on working at Wally’s is not a $20 an hour job but $10 is not enough these workers only get like 4 to 6 hours a day wallmart keeps people below the poverty line so they will get assistance programs. Which is funded by all taxpayers. These corporations are in bed with the gov and the citizens lose because of it. Employers like this are like dead beat parents that neglect their childrens needs. People I made $10 an hour 25 years ago meanwhile the cost of living has skyrocketed. Wallmart is not the only company doing this either. Our fate is sealed we cannot compete with Chinese or Mexican labor these people work for peanuts and that is where the work will go. Contracted company’s are underbidding eachother to get the work the wages go down. It reminds me of that show where these people haul loads that they get on a website and they just keep underbidding eachother just to get the load but by the time they get the load they are working for nothing. Not being negative but Americas glory days are over. These people that hate the unions really don’t understand the labor struggle

        • Hello Ass hat… you my friend have the incite of the working man… Keep on going fella. You know the score… Don’t let the smooth talkers shut you down… God bless.

      16. The Anglo-Zionist Empire keeps you distracted by offering up a seemingly endless series of boogiemen…from Russia to ISIS to Iran to Ebola to measles.

        All are meant to distract you from the real threat in corporate DC. The police state tightens it’s grip while everyone argues about the CNNNBCFOX propaganda spewed into your house by the teevee daily.

        LIBERTY: Leave each other alone.

        LIBERTARIAN: Leave me alone.

        LIBERAL: Kill anyone who disagrees with my welfare .gov.

        CONSERVATIVE: Kill anyone who disagrees with my warfare .gov.

        The only two legitimate views in the eyes of the police state are the last two.

      17. New movie, Putin as the Lone Ranger along with his trusty Chinese sidekick Mwloveyoulongtime, out to bring the crooked bankers down. Cue music, tothedump, tothedump, tothedumpdumpdump…

        • Burt,
          that was good, almost spit my fresh sip of coffee out!

        • Funny stuff BG

        • Yawn. The building in Dubai didn’t have 80,000 lbs. of jet fuel to feed the fire. Funny how that changes the end result.

          • LOL – hey old coach, how many buildings fell down on 9/11/01 – 2,3,4,or 5?

            I’ll be waiting patiently for your answer – thank you in advance.

            • Never saw an answer. Apparently Bldg 7 dropped out of sheer fright or something!

            • USA Today says “No one was reported killed and the fire burned for three hours before being brought under control, according to several reports.”

              Hardly 911, and one again, no steel structure bldg has EVER fallen due to fire. And the jet fuel would not have created a hot enough fire to do what it did.

              And no, I don’t think “Bush did it.” The best I can figure out is that there might have been some thermite involved; possibly a sting operation that went bad, or some kind of collusion. Something is certainly rotten there, tho I don’t know what.

            • North Tower–South Tower–Bldg.7, the Solomon Bldg.

      18. Mac,
        This new rating thing you’ve got on the site is bad. If you rate a comment, it take you away from the site and you have to figure out how to get back. I believe it takes a way from the site. Unless you’re getting paid for it, I don’t see why you would want to use this method of rating.

        • WDL, thanks for your comment. The rating should not be taking you anywhere when clicked – so I am not sure of the exact problem there because all it should be doing is tallying votes. Can you send me a screen shot of where/how you are being redirected? ( Mac@ this domain.com) Also, I would recommend a malware scan of your system becaus something else may be causing this redirect on your end. Thanks!

        • @WhyDieLost

          Malware is causing your problem.

          Malware, short for “malicious software,” is a form of hostile software that is attached to your system when you “surf” the Web. It is used to damage or disable your computer, gather sensitive information, or gain access to your computer.

          You need to download a quality anti-malware software program.

          Google “anti-malware software reviews”

          If you do not remove malware from your computer, it will eventually render your computer useless.

            • Not to be pushing this. But if you run Ubuntu, you won’t have anymore Malware, Virus, and spyware on your computer
              I’m at 10.04(and staying there!). Windows is Big Brother stuff. Ubuntu is free.

              • RELLIK-
                Is there anyway of explaining this to a non techy?
                I am interested , but computer retarded , not kidding.
                Thanks. Think 1st grade , LOL

                • Hammerhead –

                  Just go to Ubuntu Forums – there’s plenty of help and walk through’s on how to install a Linux Operating System onto your computer. It even has pictures to compare to each stage you are performing to help anybody understand to what is being performed.

                  • Tony said it all.

                    • Thank you , much appreciated.

        • Where does it take you?

          It doesn’t do that to me, maybe a virus/malware/spy script scan would be in order on your computer.

          Not just a comment on your post, I’m actually curious about this since my anti spyware programs have intercepted and blocked several suspicious events lately and I can’t identify where they are coming from or why (or if they are even actually malicious or just trigger a warning alarm).

          • Thanks for your input Sharon —

            Note to readers: We utilize WordFence scanning technology across this web site in an effort to prevent malicious code from taking over files or the user experience. This enterprise plugin performs hourly and daily scans of our root directories, core wordpress files, plugins and supporting files looking for anything that may be malware, spyware, adware, backdoor trojans, etc.

            Moreover, we have a variety of security features built into the server via Liquid Web Sonar Monitoring.

            While we can never guarantee a 100% solution, we are making every effort to ensure that your viewing experience is secure.

            In the near future we will be adding an SSL security certificate to the entire site so all reading, commenting, etc. will require an https:// connection – this will prevent unauthorized parties from intercepting your messages while they are being transmitted to this web site, and they will prevent prying eyes that may be trying to hijack your connection from seeing what you are reading.

            Again, nothing is 100%, but I personally take security and privacy very seriously.

            If you are being redirected to advertisements or anything out of the ordinary I strongly encourage you to scan your computer for Malware. I’m not outright dismissing that something could potentially originate from this web site, but as noted, we are actively monitoring a lot of different aspects of the site that could come under attack.

            If you are looking for a Free scanning tool that also removes adware, spyware, etc., I recommend Malware Bytes — We run it on our office and home PC’s regularly: https://www.malwarebytes.org/

            Thanks!

            Mac

            • Thanks Mr Mac.

            • Hi Mac,
              You could also suggest for the more technically inclined guys to switch( eg dual boot) to a Linux OS. I have several computers and all dual boot to Linux. I only keep Windows for Visio and a few other proprietary applications.

              • Linux Mint all the way. No windows computers here at all. There are many many flavors of Linux, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. They’re all outstanding, and need no anti-virus, anti-malware, or any other crap that slows down the computer. Anyone who has used Linux knows it is FAR faster than windows OR Mac OS, and infinitely more stable.It just works.

            • WOW MAC ,
              I never knew it was so much work to keep the site safe.
              Not a techy .
              But thanks .

            • Mac,like the site but the new thumb rating widget thing makes for slow loading pages and commenting,the old thumb system(hate thumb systems but another thing)at least didn’t cause slow loading,site could really use something different if thumb system needed(personally don’t think needed,site did great without!).

              • WD , thanks for your feedback – I think overall folks like the thumbs, but I understand the load issues you bring up – I will look into seeing if we can figure a way to speed this up – it’s actually a pretty cool little plugin from the technical standpoint but I am not sure what it is doing in terms of load times .

                • Mac –

                  I have no problems with the Thumb Widget giving me any issues.
                  It’s possible that some users computers are lacking Ram/Processor power. If someone is running a system that is 10 years or older, I could see the pop up widget giving people problems and everything in between – especially if they are running a Windows OS.

                  I currently run a 3.2gig processor with 800 gigs of Ram, Zorin 9 Linux OS & Windows 7 when needed. I haven’t encountered a single thing on the Net that bogs me down.

                  • Tony,running mint on a decent laptop,this only started when new thumb system came into play.I personally don’t like the thumb system but the new one seems much slower then old one on this site,not sure what the difference between the systems was.Though no super computer my laptop really usually runs any thing fine including this site before the new “widget”,time to build a better widget!I enjoy the site and especially forums,as a new visitor would potentially balk at staying here,so,nice to keep new folks and remember,this site is also a business for Mac&Co.,the more people,the better the business.

                    • WD –

                      Yea, not sure what is up with that. Mint has always been a reliable OS. Iduno, maybe Mint just doesn’t like the widget program, do you notice other things of this nature doing the same as well?

                      I’m not sure if the Staff could incorporate a user friendly on/off option for the widget. This may be too difficult to do or simply not at all.

        • I second that WDL… Though I wouldn’t put it down to Mac & Co… Just be content that you can participate on a web site SO freely without having to register… Thanks Mr Mac. xXx

          • Tony,someone here with I believe some Linux OS had a way that stopped/ignored widget,can obviously hit stop page loading and all but just a tiny pest to do.The page/articles/forum comments come up quick,just the spinning wheels and all including not being able to go page down unless hit stop load first.The other “thumb widget”didn’t have this with me including using same OS/laptop.I guess in big picture doesn’t matter but as I said may lose some newcomers and “knock on keyboard”doesn’t happen on other sites/stream movies ect. no problems,eh,who knows?

      19. Of course the Russians and Chinese are working together, for now.

      20. Check out the latest Jim Willie Audio.Greece brought on Chinese and Russian commandos. Why?..they have dumped the Euro.The Chinese just purchases their ports..From the moment you hear that Greece pulls out of the Euro, the US will calapse within 60 days…we are literally living through shtf right now. I have just about lost bladder control…at met a women recently how says that she want to date me and that she hopes I want to have kids with her that it’s important..i laughed to myself thinking, people are literally walking about disconnected from reality..we are are about calapse and this idiotic women is taking me about kids. Talk about severe mental retardation..poor woman has no frickin idea who I am how i have prepared, as she plans to destroy my life..needless to say, her number is now blocked..don’t have time to talk to stupid people…we shtf’ers are the only ones who will survive what’s coming…

        • Thats pretty funny, ive run into that too, also the “im pregnant” trick,

        • Watch Eddie Murphy “RAW”

          They always want their 50%.

          It’s old, but it’s still hilarious…

      21. AND lets NOT forget the 26 Trillion Dollars in derivatives that WILL come due from mostly banks around the world that bought Greek bonds. This will hit the banks when Greece defaults on it’s loans-very shortly.
        Including American banks.
        The whole world is going mad and the demons from HELL are about to be unleashed upon the world.
        see: wwwiplantosurvive.info

      22. I see now that some are predicting the end in 2016, O-boy another year well with all these people (experts?)that know when it is going down; well here is my prediction IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED we just haven’t realized it yet. No one knows when, so to make FRN’s some just keeps guessing. IMHO!!

        • Its all propaganda, AKA bullshit!
          NOBODY,
          NOBODY HAS A CLUE WHEN, WHAT ETC,
          The governments of almost every single country throughout the world are nervously juggling to try and keep the people calm and to retain their delusions of control,
          Personally i cant wait for all the ants to wake up and say FucK yOu to the political and ruling class and turn them into compost, we would be much better off if people became more self sufficient rather than looking for government to fix everything, just a recipe for disaster if you ask me,
          Thin the heards, its time, too many far too dependent on others.

          • Thanks Kula for a dose of reality. It went over a lot of folks head. Hope you are well brother!

          • KULA –
            Speaking of compost , I have a couple huge piles and saddly lost a 400# calf last year.
            I buried it in the compost pile last fall and it was gone
            as of last week when i turned the pile with the loader.
            Just some useless information i suppose..

      23. It almost seems as if all of the worlds large governments are in on this economic suicide thing. I wouldn’t be surprised. Many of them are eugenicists. They would love to eliminate about 6 billion of the worlds’ population. The merger of Sky Net and the Umbrella Corporation. Now we’re going to have to shoot the robots and the zombies. I remember the good old days when you only had to worry about crack heads.

      24. Rudy talks bad about Obama and the MSM goes nuts. Remember his name is Barack Hussein Obama. If his daddy was in fact the Kenyan, he was Muslim. Remember, his momma then married a Muslim Indonesian. Barack’s name was changed to the Indonesian “Barry Soetero”. Not real sure of the spelling. He attended a school in Indonesia. Then, when he was in Chicago, Obama attended the church of hate, led by the not so Rev. Wright. Obama sat in those pews, we are told, for 20 years. Obama must have enjoyed the Rev. Wrights condemning of America and white people, because he stayed for so long. Allegedly met his wife there. She must have liked the sermons, also.

        • I tried to get in to see the faux “Rev” Wright when I worked in Tinley Park. You can’t get in as it is in a gated community. And he has one HECK of a giant mansion… in virtually all white Tinely Park.

          Once again, leftist hypocrisy at work…. PROVING their philosophy a bunch of horse guano.

        • He stayed at the Trinity church because he had 3 relationships there with guys–that all died suspiciously.

          Check it out.
          One was the choir director??

      25. LOOK: the NWO cannot take total control until a few Countries are weaken to point of no threat and several million people eliminated. To accomplish this World War is in order (it will be truly horrible) and only then is when they’ll step in to rule. They must pit the (big Boys to Fight), because they don’t have the man power to do it themselves, but they do have the wealth to cause the start of it. So to keep the pot stirred some see this sign and that indicator or dream this or vision that no sir only the inter circle knows the plan and not all of them. Things are going to keep up as they are till the rounds start flying and everything that’s needs to be are taken care of. These people are no more than CARP-BAGGERS of old. Yes they consist of all religions, and colors, so make no doubt about it is coming only when THEY want it and not before (barring some sort of Natural Disaster) or the second coming of the LORD. This is what I believe. Again; IMHO!!

        WMPHD

      26. In the beginning, there was nothing. Nothing begat something. Something begat everything. Problem solved. Piece of cake.

        • Worked with faux sequential evolution, so why not the scam of Keynesianism!

          Nice post!

      27. Sorry; should be CARPPET-BAGGERS.

      28. Sure,countries and people may be dumping their dollars,but when economic collapse comes all currencies will be hit very hard!Big countries like Russia/china/us ect. can turn in on themselves economically and survive though will be very tough/brutal.
        That said,Warchild more then willing to take any countries/individuals dollars if you are looking to get rid of them!Enjoy the weekend all,time for me to get to work!

      29. ever wonder why every space program on the planet has the same swish vector looking symbol on its logo? this will become apparent below. addressing your article:

        brics now good in media. russia persecuted.

        west and fed reserve now very bad. fall guy created for the 100% fraudulent money system scam run by the usual suspects worldwide (including in the brics), i.e. the fed, few bad banks, and their bad policy sinks the world and plummets us into war.

        what a load of crap that for the umpteenth time the herd laps up like well trained circus animals.

        “benevolent” brics in particular, will lead the world to a basket of currencies and yet tighter centralized control under the rule of the exact same oligarchs as always.

        control by who exactly? the same real power of course. they run each of those travesties as well.

        yes, there may be war, real death of “the worthless eaters”, i.e. the general populace. yes there may be financial destruction of many, particularly the people as always. but frankly, anyone not seeing this is either shilling for it, or beyond brainwashed and absurdly naive. that other b.s. is simply just that, smokescreens for reality. the same world leadership out of the cfr and bilderberg and the puppet govts and the other usual oligarchs run those countries as well. 1300 massive corps control 80% of the world’s money. 140 control 40%, and the other 20% is a joke because it just follows the trail of crumbs because the 80% orchestrates the direction of every aspect fo the world’s economy.

        what a waste of energy, and completely flawed thinking yet again….after so many charades. which one is it….you guys are part of it or simply cannot learn a lesson that has played out the exact same way for the last few thousand years?

        there is no solution to the lies, the control, the pillaging coming from the usual suspect run russia, china et al that isnt the same old new world odor it always is.

        games, games, and more games, and brainwashing, brainwashing, brainwashing. anyone ignorant enough to think rt and cnn and fox are not run by the same folks? most amerikans even realize that cnn and fox are just like the democriminal/repuglican theater. how ridiculously lost does one have to be to not see a the rest for what it is.

        i will apologize for my tone, but this tact sickens me and really draws you and 99% fo the “alternative” media into some very clear questions. either answer right now finds you terribly wanting.

      30. Some of you may be interested in these news stories – which, apropos of the story above, UNDERLIE and indirectly result in our financial dissolution (which is based on our moral dissolution):

        High school first gender neutral bathroom – http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=33458425. I am going to inquire what they will do for me if I identify as a porpoise.

        Then there is this classic from EAG News. http://eagnews.org/franklin-graham-speaks-out-on-transgender-restroom-proposal/ If a city ordinance is passed at the March 2 Charlotte City Council meeting, any biological male will be permitted to use a women’s public restroom as the new policy would rank “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” higher than biological sex…. Restrooms in both public and private business in Charlotte, North Carolina, would be required to adhere to the proposed transgender ordinance, which applies to restaurants, stores, bars, gas stations, parks, zoos, libraries, bowling alleys, theaters and many other public places. Men who simply identify themselves as women would be allowed to use any public women’s bathroom—and vice versa—without any repercussions.

        I have stated this before, and will state it again: the radical homosexuals Browshirts (and “Brownshirts” is the exact word to use) WILL take your freedom and right of conscience – as they have ALREADY have from florists in NM to bakers in OR and CO to tee shirt makers in KY. They ultimately have ZERO concern about fairness or justice, and are being used as the thin edge of the wedge to destroy our freedoms. You will be fined, sent to re-education camps and if that isn’t successful, jailed. Books will be burned, kids re-educated and possibly eventually taken from you, and a cultural Kristallnacht implemented (see the florist and baker stories above). Heck, they may even assign you number 24601 if you are lucky. No word yet, however, what they will do when the radical Muslims come marching into the radical gay bath houses.

        And if that isn’t enough, there are also plans to subvert the Bible many of you believe in, or at least respect. Mega Pastor: Ignore the Bible to Stay Relevant
        http://joemiller.us/2015/02/mega-pastor-ignore-bible-stay-relevant-especially-2-peter-21/#ixzz3SP3upKOc (My only comment is that he shouldn’t have said “relevant,” but rather “groovy.”

        “Modern media fills the cultural airwaves with a mist of anesthesia, so that principles and values are slowly desensitized to the coming onslaught. The new culture arrives on the heels of this propaganda. It simply moves in and takes over, like slipping a fine new glove over a numbed hand. The outcome of the war is just as devastating, but without bombs bursting , twisted bodies to bury, or rubble to rebuild. A new class, a different culture, simply takes over.”

        – Charleton Heston

        • Test… I fuckin’ love you’re posts… I think!

      31. Some fun quotes from the hypocrite left… in the never-ending quest to keep you updated on the hate-filled, hypocritical, Orwellian world of liberals, here is the latest update on those selfsame hate-filled libs:
        =======================================================

        “I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease.”
        Liberal USA Today columnist Julianne Malveaux on Clarence Thomas

        “Blacks and Hispanics were too busy eating watermelons and tacos to read the fine print on the phony insurance policies.”
        Mike Wallace, of 60 Minutes fame

        “If there is justice, he’ll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it.”
        NPR’s Nina Totenberg on Jesse Helms, wishing a disease on someone – or his innocent grandchildren – that I wouldn’t want my worst enemy to have.

        “Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.”
        Former CBS News president Richard Salant.

        Quoted from You Don’t Say, by Fred Gielow, Freedom Books, 1999

        Alan Pyke, deputy economic policy editor for the far-left Think Progress blog in reaction to the Fox News Channel’s coverage of the unrest in Ferguson: “I hope Roger Ailes dies slow, painful, and soon. The evil that man has done to the American tapestry is unprecedented for an individual.”
        How nice.

        Need a little male sexism? Well, look no further than Gene Lyons, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, who stated “Ann Coulter displays all the feminine warmth of a water moccasin.” Gee, Gene, a little afraid of a strong, confident woman who speaks her mind, are we?????

        And some oh-so-typical racism from libs and their party of late Sen. KKKByrd:

        – Garry Trudeau, he of dated, boring Dunesbury (wonder if he’s still wearing platform shoes and into disco?), caricatured Condi Rice and put a label under her calling her “Brown Sugar.” Nice touch there, Garry. All you need now is a white robe with one of those pointy little hoods.

        – Lib racist Pat Oliphant incredibly pictured Rice as a big-lipped parrot in one of his “cartoon” (yes, everyone finds racism “real” funny, Pat). .

        – But, as they say in the commercials: Wait, there’s more… Jeff Danziger has shown Rice as the servant in Gone with the Wind (frankly Jeff, to paraphrase Clark Gable – and as shown in the last few elections – no one gives a damn about anything you liberals have to say)

        – Ted Rall referred to Condi as the president’s ‘House N-word’… however, Jesse Jackson has, insofar as I know, not had– for the first time ever that I can remember – any protest to lodge over this.

        – Finally, one upping the former DEMOCRAT Gov. of Alabama, George Wallace, John Sylvester, in P.C. Madison, called Condi an “Aunt Jemima.”

        – Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said last year that the Supreme Court’s lone black member was “an embarrassment to the court.”

        – Left wing Democrat Ted Kennedy’s brother, former Attorney General Robert Kennedy, ordered the illegal wiretapping of Martin Luther King

        – Former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean suggested a few years ago that most blacks hold menial jobs in a speech

        – Great stuff, isn’t it? No wonder African-American are abandoning the Dodo libs en masse.

        • It is great stuff TEST , keep on posting !
          Thanks and much appreciated.

        • Condi Rice is/was no friend of America and let us know who the African-Americans are who are abandoning the “Dodo libs”.

          Last I checked the Democrat party was/is counting on them and their votes to keep the Dodo libs(in both parties) in power.

          I must have missed something important in your post…..

          • “Ma.. ma.. mamma says that Condoleezza Rice is the Devil”

          • Not for the first time have you read into my posts, and totally misunderstood the basic content. I was talking about blacks who no longer tow the party line of the left, not whether they pass your litmus test for who constitutes a good American.

          • But since you ask, list below. Yes, the vast majority of blacks still are begging to go back to slavery and the plantation. But here are just a few who are not. Hope this helps you understand better. And recall, much of change starts with the intellectuals.

            Note to fascist leftists. Black conservatives are alive and working to vote you into the Stone Age (besides, you’ll be more comfortable there – no carbon emissions!):

            Kenneth Gladney tea party guy, http://stlouisteaparty.com/2009/08/07/union-thugs-deliver-unprovoked-beating-on-black-conservative-at-carnahan-town-hall/#ecwid:category=0&entryPage=Y&mode=category&offset=0&sort=normal

            Louisiana state senator Elbert Guillory

            Starr Parker, former welfare recipient and now successful, well known writer

            J.A. Parker, head of Abraham Lincoln Foundation

            David Manning, Ph.D., http://la-gun.com/manning/ has one good presentation

            Timothy F Johnson, Chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, Tea Party supporter

            Lt. Col Allen West http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WReJgvOBXa8

            Ryan Frazier, Colorado House of Reps candidate http://www.frazierforcolorado.com/

          • A few others you “missed”:

            Back in 2010 elections, there were these folks:

            Candidates in 2010 election

            One reason more black Republican candidates haven’t run for office may be that they usually end up on the receiving end of brickbats and outright slurs from progressives…The Florida Democratic Party distributed a flyer to untold thousands of voters echoing the Klein campaign’s attacks on West. The flyer reproduced a 2005 tax lien from Indiana which displayed West’s Social Security number, making West a prime candidate for identity theft. West called it “an unprecedented new low in American politics.”… He contends more qualified black Republicans have stepped up to run this year because they have been alarmed by the direction America’s first black president is taking the country. “Yeah,” says Johnson, “you had a bunch of blacks who said, ‘We’re tired of being stereotyped that all of us think like him.’”

            • Charlotte Bergmann, Tenn.-9 – Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen is in such a safe district that Bergmann’s campaign slogan is “Charlotte Bergmann Can Win.” She has been demanding that Cohen debate her, but so far he’s turned a cold shoulder to those entreaties, apparently sensing his best chance of surviving a wave election is to ignore her existence. Bergmann is owner of a Memphis-based marketing firm, Effective PMP, LLC. In 2003, she was named Tennessee Business Woman of the Year.
            • Robert Broadus, Md.-4 – A small-business leader and Naval Academy graduate, Broadus has written that as a young person growing up in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, D.C., he was taught that all Republicans were racists. But his interest in politics motivated him to learn and decide for himself. Over time, he says, he came to conclude that Republicans historically have done more to promote freedom and liberty than Democrats.
            • Stephen Broden, Texas-30 – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has called it “an honor” to endorse Broden, who has pastored a church in the Dallas area for over 20 years. Broden’s campaign has won national attention, with other endorsements coming from Rep. Pete Sessions and Rep. Jeb Hensarling, among others. Broden is a passionate defender of conservative principles and limited government, which he identifies as the key to American greatness. Broden’s opponent is Eddie Bernice Johnson, who has been caught in the ethics spotlight for distributing college Congressional Black Caucus Foundation scholars to her four relatives and a top aide’s two children.
            • Johnson denies any favoritism, and said she couldn’t find any other children in her district who were “very worthy.” This sparked a broadside from Broden that all the children in his district are worthy. CBC Foundation general counsel Amy Goldson told the Dallas Morning News Johnson’s actions violated its nepotism rules, and are “of great concern.”
            • Michel Faulkner, N.Y.-15 – Faulkner is offering voters in New York’s heavily Democratic 15th Congressional District a conservative alternative to returning ethically challenged Democratic Rep. Charlie Rangel back to Congress. Faulkner has signed the anti-tax pledge promulgated by Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform. After 22 years as a New York City pastor, Faulkner promotes small businesses, rather than the government, as the best chance for a strong economic recovery.
            • Ryan Frazier, Colo.-7 – Bush campaign “architect” and Fox News commentator Karl Rove held a fund-raiser Friday for Frazier and two other GOP candidates in Colorado. Frazier is a military veteran and small businessman who advocates lower taxes, reduced government waste, and securing the borders.
            • Isaac Hayes, Ill.-2 –- An ordained minister and community activist, Hayes faces a tough battle to unset Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. in Illinois’ 2nd Congressional District. There are growing indications that Jackson’s connection to the Rod Blagojevich scandal may have alienated Illinois voters.
            • Hayes could be poised to score a major upset. Hayes has received the endorsement of the American Conservative Union and the National Right to Life PAC.
            • Charles Lollar, Md.-5 – A U.S. Marine combat veteran, Lollar describes himself as a fiscal conservative who wants to “rein in the out of control spending by the Pelosi Congress.” He faces an uphill battle against House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. His campaign is focusing on the economy, and he states low taxes are the key to a robust economy.
            • Bill Marcy, Miss.-2 – Marcy is a retired security director and Chicago cop who says his time on the beat taught him just how much liberal agenda has devastated American families. His opponent is Rep. Bennie Thompson, an African-American who has served in Congress since 1997, and who has been widely criticized in recent years for taking free junkets to the Northern Mariana Islands, Mexico City, Honduras, the Virgin Islands, Key West, and St. Martin.
            • Star Parker, Calif-37 — Founder of the Center for Urban Renewal and Education, Parker is a high-profile columnist and author with an inspiring personal story. Parker is the founder and president of the Center for Urban Renewal and Education (CURE). She’s running against incumbent Democrat Rep. Laura Richardson in California’s 37th congressional district. One watchdog named Richardson to its report on congressional corruption after she reportedly accepted favorable loans and failed to properly disclose them. In July, the Office of Congressional Ethics cleared Richardson of wrongdoing. Among those who have endorsed Parker’s candidacy: Steve Forbes, GOP Rep. Marsha Blackburn, GOP Rep. Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, among many others.
            • Bill Randall, N.C.-13 – After growing up in New Orleans lower 9th Ward, Randall knew was it was like to face tough challenges. He attained the U.S. Navy’s highest non-commissioned rank, Command Master Chief, before launching a political career. He’s been endorsed by Tea Party PAC USA and supports the Fair Tax.
            • Marvin Scott, Ind.-7 -– Marvin Scott has been a professor of sociology at Butler University for nearly 20 years. He also ran the Marvin Scott Associates consulting firm for nearly a decade. Scott recently hired Jerry Alexander, former political director for Rep. Mike Pence’s 2008 campaign, to serve as his campaign manager. His opponent is incumbent Rep. Andre Carson, a Democrat.
            • Chuck Smith, Virginia-3 — A former U.S. Marine and longtime attorney, Smith is running in Virginia’s 3rd Congressional District against incumbent Democrat Rep. Bobby Scott. Smith is a staunch opponent of taxes and big government. Former Virginia Sen. George Allen is aiding his fundraising efforts.

          • Then there is the infamous Peggy “Obama will pay for my gas, food and mortgage” Joseph.

            If you don’t remember Peggy Joseph, here is a 27 second clip that will refresh your memory. You will undoubtedly remember her! She is the one who claimed Obama, after elected, was going to pay for her gas and her mortgage. /www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P36x8rTb3jI#t=2

            So, where is she now? Here she is in her own words, in a clip (1:59 min) done by film maker Joel Gilbert, (creator of There’s No Place Like Utopia) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Rt9R7EQTqQA#t=2 In a nutshell, when asked if Obama delivered on his promises, she replied:
            Hahaha… Absolutely not. My mortgage got worse and gas prices got higher…He had a very big voice, just like the Wizard of Oz. The wizard was this teeny teeny tiny man… and I think it’s the same thing with Obama… the man behind the curtain… not who we thought or expected him to be….I was Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz… that’s how I feel… I was Dorothy. I started getting a little more educated about politics and reading more. What I learned is, ‘never trust a wizard.’ It’s within ourselves to have the determination, the courage and the brains to bring us to our destiny. Truth and honesty are important… He lied about everything.”

            She is starting to sound like other African Americans who just might vote for Rand Paul or Ted Cruz next time….

            And per your post, yes, you have missed something.

      32. “Russia debasing the dollar?” I don’t think so. Fact is, Bush and Obama together have killed it. Bush for ending the reporting the size of the money supply, something that had been done for the 70 years between the end of the Great Depression and 2001; Obama for obviously putting the dollar printing presses into overdrive.

        • Valid point. 🙂

          The dollar was cut long ago… it’s bleeding out at this point.

          • I will point, for I am old but you must run and make ready. They grabbed our neck in Camelot and now they squeeze. My heart says those that cause it must not be allowed to reset it for there, real evil be. Not many left, the last chance will be at reset and will be short. There will be clamor, we must be louder and more nimble than I. Freedom fleets but it will pass there at that time. Make haste and be ready.

      33. Let China join Russia in dropping the dollar. All products made in China will be off the store shelves. Which is why China’s not that stupid, won’t happen people.

        • Exactly , How do you think Walmart would react to China dumping the dollar ? WHOA !
          But remember , the dollar as reserve currency COULD at some time be replaced by a basket of currencies and that would REALLY hurt .
          Just wait for digitization , OH BOY , let the good times roll.YIPPEEE

      34. Did you notice a few days ago the powers that be indicated they feel the greatest threat to CONUS is domestic rightwing conservatives…..

        • Contractor

          Warm up we are going back…….

      35. “Is Russia, after being under economic attack for the better part of a year, now starting to make its own moves? And are they working in unison with the Chinese in an effort to debase the dollar?”

        Huh… so China and Russia are hurting for money? So they sell US bonds to make payroll. Not seeing how this hurts the US. Bonds are a commodity. Once we sell them, we have our funding. Ruskies and Chinese can sell all they want. Doesn’t hurt us a bit. In the long term, I would guess the US strategy would be to deflate the value of the dollar so the value of our bonds would be less at the time they are cashed in. Maybe this is why they are selling now. the US dollar is as strong as it has been for a while. So maybe they are selling now because the US dollar is strong hence the bonds are worth more on the open market today. IMHO

      36. They dumped treasury notes IOUs . They didn’t dump actual cash paper dollars. Nobody will be pushing around wheelbarrow,s full of cash trying to buy loaf of bread.

        • Of course not, debit cards and smart phones have made wheelbarrows of currency obsolete.

      37. The Jews came into being as a distinct people on the plains of Shinar at the same time all the other ethnic divisions and languages of humanity were formed as separate and competing groups to dispel the God challenging power of a united race of people teamed up with the evil of the old Snake that was being universally practiced at the time.

      38. Mac,
        I have used the rating system several times now and it hasn’t done what I wrote about earlier. No idea what happened.

        • WhyDieLost –

          It’s a mystery, and what happened to you falls into the
          category of “shit happens”.

          Some things are not explainable —- Iduno?

        • ‘No idea what happened’…
          ‘Idunno’…
          Who cares what other people (or payroll trollers) think about what I post? Now hear this: more and more we have to think for ourselves. Isn’t that the core mindset about preparing- doing it when others say you’re wrong to?
          Thumbs are for sitting on while you fret about standing up.

      39. I fuckin’ love the distressed image of George Washington on the Dollar bill on the leader… This is the end, my beautiful friend, the end.

        • The Doors
          Led Zeppelin
          Nirvana
          Metallica
          Tool
          Incubus
          311
          Pink Floyd
          Johny Cash
          Sublime

          Probably my top 10

          Skynyrd is up there too

      40. I am going to buy a chainsaw, generator, snow plow,and snow blower. I wonder what they will say when i try to pay with gold.

      41. This is a little one sided.

        So, Russia, China and Japan are selling dollars? That means somebody is buying them.

        The headline could have read XXX buying 20% of Russia’s dollars.

        It’s not necessarily a dollar dump unless they’ve been sold for a fraction of the value.

        They’re not worthless if they can be sold – so why is it a ‘dump’?

        • John –

          That’s the first thing I thought of — “who is dumb enough to buy them”. If nobody is buying, then where is it going? Is it being recirculated into our System and at the time not being accounted for?

      42. Fifty Shades of Black
        As pornography begins to step into mainstream culture, Michael Voris breaks down the dangers of its use, including several lesser known issues such as the psychological costs and the growing problem of porn marketed to women.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGpV2vrk_yU

      43. The end will be end of 2nd quarter 2015 when all the oil companies default on there loan payments and the banks start loosing massive amounts just like they did on the housing market in 2007 to 2009, that when shtf will really happen and you can bet your bottom doller that it may be as bad as the Great Depression

        • RMG –

          You make a good observation, and technically if we/World had an honest banking system – we should of been in a Great Depression already. Banking practices have always been dishonest, but anymore it is beyond manipulated and up in our faces. We have a National Debt that is not mathematically possible to repay.

          If I had a business of my own, and kept applying for loans after loans – the banks would of shut me down, but … in the Financial World to these big boys, it is ok? A country cannot keep printing money with nothing backing it and have the possibility of recovering from a financial crisis. It doesn’t work that way, and sooner than later it will catch up to itself.
          The possibility of Taxing people to oblivion does not work either. Ever since the Glass Steagall got removed, the banking sector showed it’s lawlessness of principles. I’m sure the day will come where the Government will blame people like you and I for the crisis that they themselves developed…..well fuck that…we know who these sons of bitch’s are and for the most part their crony politician buddies too.

          No need for future court hearings, all the evidence is in black and white of the dirty dealings that they have committed.
          Quick death, slow death? … I don’t care what happens to them. As long as the message gets out that their kind of banking practices never happen again in the future.

          Be well –

          • forget political partys just focus on this fact. Sinc the beginning of our nation up until 6 years ago about 2008 the naional debt had grown to 9 trillion dollars. In the last 6 years the debt has grown another 9 trillion dollars. The debt is now 18 trillion & expanding. I think w would still have thisfiscal night mre no matter who was elected .The parsites have run out of making producers to steal & robb from . So now they are stealing & robbing (by borrowing) from the futures producers. Maybe the default will happen before that generation matures?

          • TONY , all of what you say is true.
            I just wanted to point out one thing.

            “and technically if we/World had an honest banking system – we should of been in a Great Depression already.”

            NOPE ! We wouldnt be in this condition in the first place, honest bankers and honest earned and saved money , do not end in depressions.
            Just my two pennies .

            • Hammerhead –

              Ahh, I see what I did and not proofread my post.
              That line there for sure is not what it is suppose to mean, thanks for catching it and pointing it out to me.

      44. $.02 Hammer,in todays economy that makes you one of the “moneyed elites”!

      45. Sorry for the length of this. Was sent to me by E-Mail.

        The below summary of Barack and Michelle Obama’s 5 year reign in
        the White House is by far the best I’ve ever read as it squarely hits
        the nail on the head.
        And it took a black reporter writing it to make it as effective as it is.
        A white man’s account would be instantly criticized by the liberal
        media as pure racism. But, how can anyone scream Racist when an
        exacting description of the Obama’s is penned by a well-known
        journalist of color?
        Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los
        Angeles.

        The other evening on my twitter, a person asked me why I didn’t like
        the Obama’s. Specifically I was asked: “I have to ask, why do you
        hate the Obama’s? It seems personal, not policy related. You even
        dissed (disrespect) their Christmas family picture.”

        The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their
        ideology, and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation.
        I’ve made no secret of my contempt for the Obamas. As I responded
        to the person who asked me the aforementioned question, I don’t like
        them because they are committed to the fundamental change of my/our
        country into what can only be regarded as a Communist state.
        I don’t hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are
        the worst kind of racialists, they are elitist Leninists with
        contempt for traditional America . They display disrespect for the
        sanctity of the office he holds, and for those who are willing to
        admit same, Michelle Obama’s raw contempt for white America is
        transpicuous.

        I don’t like them because they comport themselves as emperor and
        empress.

        I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President, and a love
        of our country and her citizens, from the leader entrusted with the
        governance of same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an
        unparalleled love for the country and her people. The Reagan’s made
        Americans feel good about themselves and about what we could accomplish.

        His arrogance by appointing 32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing
        congress is impeachable. Eric Holder is probably the MOST incompetent
        and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold the job. Could you envision
        President Reagan instructing his Justice Department to act like
        jack-booted thugs?

        Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty
        much expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even
        using that low standard, the Obama’s have taken lies, dishonesty,
        deceit, mendacity, subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are
        verbally abusive to the citizenry, and they display an animus for
        civility.

        I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in
        the case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the
        Cambridge Police of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to
        now being able to be proud of America . I view that statement and
        that Mind set as an insult to those who died to provide a country
        where a Kenyan, his illegal alien relatives, and his alleged progeny,
        could come and not only live freely, but rise to the highest, most
        powerful, position in the world.

        Michelle Obama is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans
        of every description paid with their blood to ensure her right to do
        that. I have a saying, that “the only reason a person hides things,
        is because they have something to hide.” No president in history has
        spent over a million dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.

        And what the two of them have shared has been proven to be lies. He
        lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother’s death
        and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to
        nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has
        lied about his father’s military service, about the civil rights
        movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a
        State of the Union address.

        He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has
        surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist
        academicians today. He opposed rulings that protected women and
        children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is
        openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel.

        His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express
        Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world).
        I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes,
        their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly
        showing off their life of entitlement – as he goes about creating and
        fomenting class warfare.

        I don’t like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public
        condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for
        the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and
        unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional
        parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional
        authority.

        Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it
        has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And
        I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.

        I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the
        strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them,
        as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to
        label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to
        man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt
        their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out
        of fear for their color.

        As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, “Nero In The White House” –
        “Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed
        such dishonesty in a political leader.

        He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed.
        Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his
        narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequaled. Using Obama as the
        bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood.
        Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was
        elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a
        congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire
        life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not
        witnessed in political leaders.
        He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement –
        while America ‘s people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.

        • Copperhead:

          The author of your article covered exactly why we have such disdain for these two aliens who reside in our Whitehouse.

          Thanks!

        • AMEN

        • Thanks for reposting Copperhead. A good read.

      46. Two definite scenarios:

        1. Russia ges pushed to far into a corner with their buffer country Ukraine. Germany will get nuked. NATO retaliates and US needs to decide to launch global nuclear war.

        2. Iran finally develops deliverable Nuclear weapon and Israel excercises option to nuke iran. russia nukes israel. you know the rest.

        Why this matters: Kerry instigating more trouble even though russians are honoring ceasefire. This will only lead to russians taking it to next level. Iran will test weapon Nuclear weapon within 1 year.

        • “Iran will test weapon Nuclear weapon within 1 year.”

          15 minutes after that Israel will have turned Iran into radioactive dust. What happens after that, who knows. I’m really surprised that Israel has not blown the hell out of Iran’s nuclear infrastructure. You can’t have a bunch of religious zealots running around with nuclear capability. Oh wait…the US does that right now.

          • I think you got that backwards 15 minutes after Iran first test its Nuclear weapon. Iran will have turned Israel into radio active dust

      47. Dear friends.
        Russophobia is irrational and un-American.
        America should not be at war against nations which have a Christian majority.
        The enemy is Islamofascism, not the Russians.
        Going to war against Russia and Russia’s economy is suicidal.
        You have been misinformed by Russophobic pseudo-conservatives who make money preparing for war. It is suicidal not to seek the peace of the nations, especially nations like Russia who share our Christian values.
        The only 2 enemies America has are Iran and North Korea, and the ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah terrorist: Iran and the Islamofascists are the ones who wish us ill, not the Russians.

        • BS, anon. The russians are commies as are most people in this country. And that is why commies don’t want to war against commies.
          f ’em

      48. “And are they working in unison with the Chinese in an effort to debase the dollar?”

        Considering the nincompoops in charge of the US dollar, Treasury bonds, and economy allow me to suggest that these things do not need ANY help from either the Chinese or the Russians to become debased. We are handling all of that which is necessary on our own. 🙁

      49. If anything, Russia and China are betting on higher interest rates for US Treasuries while most of the rest of the world bets on lower (or alternatively Russia and China are cash poor and rest is so cash rich they can’t figure out what to do with their money). The numbers.
        Country YoY
        Russia -45.8
        China, Mainland -31.3
        Thailand -14.6
        All Other -8.4
        Norway -6.6
        Taiwan -4.7
        Poland -3.5
        Peru -2.9
        Chile -1.6
        Israel 1
        Uruguay 1
        Italy 1.5
        Kazakhstan 1.8
        Colombia 1.8
        Philippines 1.9
        Denmark 2.6
        Vietnam 3.4
        Australia 3.5
        Netherlands 3.9
        Spain 4.5
        Sweden 4.7
        Germany 8.8
        Brazil 9.8
        Hong Kong 12.3
        Korea, South 12.7
        Canada 13.5
        India 14.9
        Switzerland 16.3
        Mexico 17.6
        France 21.7
        Singapore 24.1
        Belgium 25.1
        United Kingdom 2/ 26
        Turkey 28.1
        Ireland 28.7
        Japan 29.5
        Carib Bkg Ctrs 4/ 35.4
        Luxembourg 36.2
        Oil Exporters 3/ 39.4
        Grand Total 312.3

        There probably are some stories to tell in those numbers. Wish I had time to review the other historical series and to also compare to each countries’ GDP growth as well as income per capita. No doubt those last 3 rows show some super bad white collar theft/tax evasion; but, the numbers just above them show many countries are ramping up their holdings. Perhaps the two are the same. Perhaps the elites of each country are not leading well but are extracting wealth and see US Treasuries as an obvious bank. In contrast, perhaps China and Russia are spending their money building space programs and will colonize Mars within two decades. Or maybe just improve their schools. Can always speculate.

      50. Russia backing out of its dollar holdings is no surprise.
        It has more to do with Putin showing off then anything.
        Their holdings are miniscule compared to other countries.
        If the dollar was to drop in value…
        WTI crude would be worth more American dollars.
        Our grain crops would be worth planting.
        In other words, those who have been hurt by the rising dollar would find themselves in better circumstances.

      51. Whatever you do, do not fall for the vaccine propaganda. They are insidious. You do not need a vaccine, that is filled with poison. No GMOs, no vaccines, stop poisoning yourself and your family.

        • The vaccine propaganda sits on a bed of lies. You are right. Wake up folks and follow the money!

      52. God I love you people. At least you are all awake and aware. and comedians, if all else fails we can do stand up comedy for food.
        xoxo lol

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