Disarmed: Texas Governor Rick Perry Loses Right To Carry Firearm

by | Aug 28, 2014 | Headline News | 153 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    (Pictured: Governor Rick Perry’s Official Mug Shot. August 20, 2008)

    The right to bear arms shall not be infringed?

    Recently indicted Texas Governor Rick Perry can no longer carry a concealed weapon.

    A felony indictment for abuse of power will hit Texas Governor Rick Perry, an avowed gun enthusiast, where it hurts – by curtailing some of his rights to bear firearms.

    Under state law, Perry, a staunch supporter of gun rights who said he shot a coyote to death with a pistol while jogging in Austin in 2010, is no longer allowed a license to carry a concealed handgun because of the indictment.

    And per Federal Law, the Governor cannot receive or purchase a firearm while under indictment.

    “It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.”

    Perry is still able to own and carry a firearm on his own property (it is not clear if that includes the Governor’s mansion in Austin). Should it become necessary for the Governor to use his weapon he’ll need to take aim and shoot with care, because he can only use the ammunition he has in his possession due to federal statutes that prohibit him from acquiring more while he is under indictment.

    Innocent until proven guilty? Or the other way around?

    The Governor is facing up to 109 years in prison for two felony charges stemming from his refusal to fund a democrat controlled Public Integrity Unit headed by District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg. After Lehmberg was arrested for a DUI, Perry refused to authorize funds for her unit until she resigned. 


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      1. Felonies do that to a person….

          • Smiling
            — Miss dee dee

            • No man, or woman can legislate away an individuals right to self defense!

              “The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

              There is only one crime named and defined by the US Constitution: Treason.

              Rick Perry IS a scumbag, and he will get his comeuppance eventually, but he is not a criminal as defined by the US Constitution; a document which most of you on this site revere!

              Rick Perry is a politician (punk). As such, he should be shunned by decent society.

              Let him have his gun. He’s gonna need it.

              Karma is a bitch.

                • @Travis:

                  Piracy and Counterfeiting are NOT specified in the US Constitution as crimes.

                  Piracy and Counterfeiting are “enumerated” crimes.
                  They are “interpreted” under Article I Section 8 of the US Constitution, but they are not mentioned specifically.

                  I’m sure you could point to Article I Section 8 of the US Constitution as the reason seat belt use is mandatory, and that non-use of them is considered a “crime” punishable by fines, lose of license, or even jail!

                  USA… USA… USA.

              • If you read the constitution you would see other crimes listed, such as misdemeanors.

              • YMWW, how have you been? I agree with your post, ESPECIALLY the first sentence. Karma really is a bitch along with all of the bad women I’ve ever had.

              • YMWW, BTW, whoever gave you red thumbs ought to be shot. [PUN INTENDED]

                • While I don’t cherish the thought of even my enemies being disarmed, I do have a deep hope that this will be a learning lesson.

                  A lesson that he defies–and gets arrested for.
                  If you can’t be a leader to other seek to be an example.
                  The aristocrats need to understand that they are not exempt from the laws they created for others, nor will they be spared the brutality of the system which they helped to build.

                  One does not dig their own grave except by digging deeper.

                • The trolls were really out in force with the red thumbs on that comment.

              • “Karma is a bitch.” — It sure is buddy.

          • Perry should do like the rest of us that are free men. Ignore these scum’s laws, rules, and regulations. Especially the ones that attempt to take away our self-defense ability.

            • Here in MD I cant walk outside my front door with a gun unless its too the range, whereupon it must be unloaded with a trigger lock with the ammo separate.

              Now if I go mountain climbing, can I use harsh language with the mountain lion?

              Take your “laws” and fuck a porcupine.

              • Acid, I’m going to shock you and say I agree with your post. I’m also opposed to unconstitutional laws, especially anything that interferes with self-defense.

                • Old man,

                  I might trash you sometimes, but if there is anything that unites everybody here its the spirit of freedom and self-determination. Especially our guns.

                  Remember “Spirit of 1776” = my ball sack.

                  Only 1/3 of Americans supported the Revolutionary War.

                  • I believe it was 3% not a third that took part

                  • Acid, I don’t really care about getting trashed. I’ve been trashed by my opponents for my whole life even before the internet. I’m not out here to win approval from EVERYBODY. If I tried to live that way, I would’ve ended up in a rubber room many years ago. What I DO care about is trying to rescue this country from the tyrannical NWO nightmare that we are all facing. I’ll die standing up instead of on my knees.

                  • One thing acid that unites like minded people is to not use derogatory language and remarks. Just don’t think young people won’t get old. Remember one day a young person may harm you but at the same time an old person may save you. Just my two cents.

        • Serves him right….I love it. A poli tic getting a dose of the same shit they dole out with all their ridiculous unconstitutional laws. Maybe now his eyes will be opened.

          • Boo hoo, he still has bodyguards every where he goes.

          • Feinstein next?…. PLEASE!

            • JQP..That one requires Silver Bullet. We are not dealing with human when it comes to Feinstein, Boxter, Shummer and lord mercy just too many AIPC zombies.

              • I was thinking a wooden stake. Maybe both in the case of Feinstein.

            • Never forget to wipe your Feinstein or you may chafe.

            • John Q. Public, I want to say this publicly where everyone can see –

              I apologize for my harsh and sarcastic words toward you in our last exchange. I believe Christians can and should set the example for the world, so I ask your forgiveness for any wrongs I did to you. I respect and honor Christ in you.

              • Thank you. I too have not been perfectly charitable and apologize for that. I too will do better.

                I disagree with you on many theological points, but would like to stick to the issues and evidence and not deal in personalities.

                I think your fundamental mistake is that you do not accept the biblical evidence that the Mosaic Covenant was replaced by the New Covenant. God promised/warned the ancient Israelites of the New Covenant that would fulfill and replace the Mosaic Covenant. When the Temple veil was torn on Good Friday, all the blessings and promises continued in His Church. God did not “cast aside” His people or renege on His promises, but the Covenant did definitely change to the New. Those promises and blessings are fulfilled and will be fulfilled in His Church.

                You have mentioned “hate” several times. I think the most hateful thing one can do is to leave a man perched on the precipice of hell and tell him everything is OK. It is a true love of neighbor, a true charity, to tell a man of his predicament and to help point him in the right direction—even if that means “tough love.”

                I make no claim to having a gift for evangelizing or of having a pleasing personality, but I certainly tell the truth as best I have been taught.

                A green thumb to you!

                Pax Dominum tecum.

                • Oops, typo—should be:

                  Pax Domini (genitive case!) tecum!

                  • Hey this is a family site …get a room…. 🙂

          • BJ,

            Perry is a victim of a partisan DemoCRAPic vendetta. The DemiCRAP DA was so drunk that she could barely stand up. Have you seen the video? And she’s the head of the Public Integrity Unit???

            Perry was doing his job. Why should it be a reason to celebrate his disarming?

            Jeez, Louise. Some if the Looney opinions here almost make me enbarassed to be called a conservative, at least UN such company.

            • Editor: auto-correct took over. Should be:

              Jeez, Louise. Some of the looney connents here almost make me embarassed to be called a conservative, at least in such company.

            • If you are in the modern day conservative group….1. you are part of the problem and 2. You are still stuck int the repub/ demo paradigm and needing a shift.

              You don’t seem to get it, you and most others here. I don’t care if he was doing his job or not. He is a typical poli tic. And they all deserve misfortunes. I love to see them get it, and especially in regards to the 2nd amendment. Now maybe after it is all done, he will of had his eyes opened.

        • He has not been convicted, dimwit!

          • Amazing how some do not see sarcasm unless it is spelled out for them.

          • @vincent:

            An Federal indictment IS a conviction… Dimwit!

            What planet are you from???

            • A Federal…

            • no and indictment is where you go to court where they tell you what you are charged with it is not a conviction

              • News Flash bmg… A Federal indictment ends in a conviction 96% of the time. Look it up!

                If YOU are ever “indicted” by a Federal Grand Jury, you ARE going to prison.


                Because the grammatical structure of your post indicates you are F**KED!

            • An indictment is not a conviction. It is after a Grand Jury has determined there is enough evidence to arrest him and go to trial. There has been no trial and no conviction, his constitutionally protected God given rights are being violated. No matter what you think of Perry, this should never happen to anyone.

        • And this indictment by the scumbag drunk DA will be tossed, since amongst other things Perry had every right to do what he did under Texas law.

          • Interesting how the charges came out shortly after Perry put troops on Texas’ southern border.
            When the Arizona governor tried to protect their border the Feds went after her too.

            • Cara says:
              Comment ID: 3214961
              August 28, 2014 at 9:32 pm Interesting how the charges came out shortly after Perry put troops on Texas’ southern border. When the Arizona governor tried to protect their border the Feds went after her too.

              That is EXACTLY why.

            • Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. Damn straight that’s why the freako libtards in Austin went after him!

        • Not sure why you got all the thumbs down but I will say that the “felony” thing has been abused to death by the PTB…felony this and felony that…bunch of idiots on a power trip with words…Id add that while no fan of Perry hes still innocent till proven guilty and it appears to be a political revenge tactic more than a legit charge against him…just my 2 cents,have a great day my friend. REB

        • eppes: “alleged” felonies…

        • happens to
          stupidest of all of us if you don’t lose the witnesses

      2. The difference between he and us is that he can have 25 armed guards at taxpayers expense surrounding him at all times…..

      3. Then he should carry it and to open fire on anyone who prevents him from doing so. Time to deal with commies is over.

      4. Governor Perry is no more guilty of what he’s being charged with then I am. Karma is a bitch is what I’d tell that prosecutor.

        • He also only lost his CC permit, until he is found not guilty or the charges are dropped. They can’t take his right to bear arms until he is convicted of a felony. An INDICTMENT is not a CONVICTION. He’s just kinda on probation until this all shakes out.

          I hope he comes back and sues for harassment and/or malicious prosecution, after it’s all over.

          • Yes, and I hope they take Soros with it in the suit!

          • When your right to bear arms is taken away by the .gov telling you that you cannot have a pistol in your belt, well, your right to bear arms has been taken away. Concealed or not, the 2nd does not differentiate.

        • I’m sorry…I think my karma just ran over your dogma.

        • Show me any other politician with the cojones to de-fund anything. (…love the mug shot side-by-side)

      5. Wasn’t he “doing his job?”

        Where’s the 100+ years in prison for Obama?


        • Dave, get a clue brother, you just can’t do such to a BLACK President being selected by commies.

      6. shouldnt be until convicted

        he is not a Felon until convicted..he is a free man just like everyone else until convicted

        this is a violation of his 2nd amendment and if he’s to dumb to point that out than he deserves it

        an indictment isnt a CONVICTION

        Rick wake them the fuck up for all of the rest of us if you would or are you just as dumb..? im waiting

        • Your so right. He is not guilty until proven and convicted. Even then, the Second Amendment did not qualify a citizen by wrongdoing because it was a right.

          Remember that the Second Amendment is the right to bear arms. That Right has been infringed upon w/ much later legislation that adds in all of those additional stipulations. Regulation on top of regulation eventually nullifies these Amendments to the Constitution.

          Same thing happening to our First Amendment, our Fourth Amendment, our Fifteenth Amendment, etc

          • VRF and Calgagus, both of you make valid points. Although I’m NOT a fan of Rick Perry or any other politician, he is still a US citizen and is still entitled to the same due process of law that all the rest of us are. HE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN ANY COURT OF LAW IN THIS LAND, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Without question, the charges against him are politically motivated, and I hope he will fight the charges tooth and nail and win in court. NOT BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS, BUT FOR THE GENERAL PRINCIPLE OF THIS WHOLE AFFAIR. So the only reason braveheart stands up for Rick Perry is the general principle behind this whole affair. he is being targeted by commie assholes who have a hard-on for him. Any one of us could be in his shoes and have the same target painted on us. Let anyone target me, I will stand up and fight for my own interests and that is my right.

            • Braveheart, Perry dont float my boat either. Hes nothing but a slick politician (and where was he before August 2014 w/ all those illegals coming into Texas?). Hes an American citizen though and he has the same rights as all other legal American citizens.
              Cant say I disagree w/ anything you said about the charges, theyre trumped up to serve the commie dems attack machine.

          • Calgagus, we all still have those rights which were given to us by GOD, NOT BY ANY MANMADE GOVERNMENT. I’ve always lived by the Bill of Rights, NOT by any draconian policy. I don’t care what any government official says.

            • Braveheart-

              -(partial/select quote)-

              “…we all still have those rights which were given to us by GOD, NOT BY ANY MANMADE GOVERNMENT.”

              good one….your best post/statement ever.


            • Braveheart Yes the most important rights are unalienable rights from God.
              The govt hates that they cant scare us all into cowering so theyre regulating all they can to strip us down and destroy us. Just because they want to repeat history one more time dont mean were going to lay down and let it happen. The people are more than just angry, theyve grown disgusted and intolerant. I think the govt is realizing this too. Anybody else connecting the new drama of the ISIS threats, that staged beheading where they immediately decided theyd find out who did it, and the latest American homegrown terrorists who were just killed? Anyone want to bet what is being planned by the govt for this Sept?

              • Hunter and Calgagus, it looks like it’s coming down to the wire. And yes, I smell false-flag in the air, possible for Sept., only a few days away.

        • He is guilty of A LOT!!!! He is a poli tic! He can suffer like the rerst of us for a bit under all the unconstitutional crap.

        • This whole thing stinks like shit…perry is a Bilderberger, cfr, etc.

          This is to condition people to the fact that they want you to think that they can disarm even a governor of a state like Texas.

          Fuck them…nomi. cati.

          If your biting on this one, you are really fucking gullible.

      7. found on Craigslist

        You’re probably not interested in used farm equipment, but you might enjoy this ad taken from Craig’s list.

        Fifty-year old manure spreader. Not sure of brand. Said to have been produced in Kenya.

        Used for a few years in Indonesia before being smuggled into the US via Hawaii.

        Of questionable pedigree.

        Does not appear to have ever been worked hard.

        Apparently, it was pampered by various owners over the years. It doesn’t work very often, but when it does it can sling manure for amazing distances. I am hoping to retire the manure spreader soon.

        I really don’t want it hanging around getting in the way. I would prefer a foreign buyer to relocate the manure spreader out of the country. I would be willing to trade it for a nicely framed copy of the United States Constitution.

        Location: Currently being stored in a big white house in Washington,D.C.

        • VRF, sounds like you’ve been taking lessons from Eppe. That fits the BOY in the WH to a T! Damned good one!

        • Oh no! We are still paying for the last bargan farm equiptment we imported a hundred years ago.

        • Top Notch VRF!!!

      8. The Marxists PTB will use any anti-gun measure to confiscate the guns of all law-abiding Americans either by conflating gun ownership to animal abuse, mass killers and most recently drafted, hatred of women.

        Banning guns will benefit a Marxist government to subjugate its citizens while the criminals and thugs will be free to roam and rob and kill anyone they desire because the law-abiding citizens are unarmed and unable to defend themselves.

        The Marxists will work on banning free speech, right to self-defense and individualism if they have the chance.

        While many will agree that guns are dangerous, just like any other machine such as a car, needle or electricity, it depends on who owns the guns. A law-abiding citizen should not be demonized for simply owning a firearm for protection purposes.

        However, it appears that only white, Christian, conservative males are being hounded over gun ownership when in America a person is around 5000 times more likely to be murdered by a Marxist cop than a “tea party right wing fundamentalist.

        • Marxism is bad for you, welcome aboard, and I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. If anyone comes to take mine, they’ll get a “dirt nap” instead. Once again, welcome. You’re in the right place.

      9. August 20, 2008??? I thought this all happened last week. Maybe I am not the only one that wants to go back 6 years and have things be different.

      10. Come on, let the SHTF already!!!

        • Jon, be careful what you wish for. It IS coming our way.

          • RBH.
            Hello my friend. I agree with you.
            On another subject.
            I have bought 2) 7.62X54R #1- Finnish and #2 – M44.
            Very cheap and great shooters.
            I don’t know if you have one, but they would be a good addition to your collection.
            The 7.62X54R hits very hard and will penetrate a lot. Just about anything. Ammo is cheap. I like the 148 Gr. This round just seems to shoot better out of these guns.
            Stay safe old friend!!!

            • Good evening, Sarge. You must have been reading my mind. I have been onsidering one of those. There will be another gun show in my area on the weekend of Sept. 27-28. I’ll be going to see what kind of ‘goodies’ I can find.

              • RBH:
                Great minds think alike!
                The Finnish is the best, and a little more expensive. They seem to be the most accurate.
                The M44’s are great little carbines. The Type 53 is china’s version of the M44, not quite as good of a rifle, but it ain’t that bad. If you can try to get one with the same serial numbers.
                Good hunting, Hope you find something.

              • Just to let you know RB..AimSurplus.com I believe has some starting at $219.95 to $239.95. Ammo’s still a great buy @ 880 rounds for $199.95…gonna love it RB

            • The Finn rifles are the most accurate, according to legend. The M44 carbine a great, handy little rifle, be warned, that short barrel and full-strength rifle cartridge means a lot of blast!

              If you can find some of the Czech training ammo that used to out there, it’s low recoil and perfectly good out to about 200 yards.

              The carbines are generally in really nice condition. If you find a nice one dated 1943, buy it. The Russians put 50,000 out for trials on the Eastern Front, before adopting it in 1944. They are a lot scarcer than the 1944 and later dates.

              • The Brotherhood of the 54 continues to grow., wish I had a Finn Mosie

                • Talon
                  I got mine at flea market for $200.00. & 60 rounds of Ammo. It is in “A” condition. At 75 yards under a 1″ group with 148 Gr. Silver tips Russian ammo. I know I stole it, but some time you just get lucky! I guess it was my turn.
                  By the way there are several on Gun Broker.

                  • Sgt Dale…
                    Warm congratulations on your acquisition of a proven and reliable tool of Freedom. During the scare of 2013…these rifles became very scarce to come by. I was living in Philly at the time. Would often go to gun shows in Phoenixville and the National Guard Armory shows. The only models that were available was the Russian variants and were somewhat overpriced due to the scare. So I made a visit to my pals Dave and Brandy at Treeline Sports in Norristown and they had 2 Type53’s…one had a crack stock and the other was a little rough…but to my surprise…had matching numbers..very rare in a type53. Moneys always too tight to mwntion;-) but I picked it up for a buck and a half. The bore was not shot out, the crown was perfect and the blueing was remarkably intact all the way through..the action is a little stiff as is common for the Chinese variant. I took the whole bolt down..did my CLP on all parts..drowned my bore in ammonia and it shines like a mirror…The action improved a little but still not like a Finnish, Russian or IMO the best M44 production the Polish models. Nonetheless…I love my type 53..the only made in China product I actually do love. Got my silver tips at AimSurplus.com. scoped it out…muzzle break on it.refinished the stock and a deep mahogany stain on it..found a replacement cleaning rod and sling..I absolutely highly recommend this rifle and I know you will enjoy it every time you group at 75yrds under an inch..I do!

      11. As LaRouche and many others have learned, it is not wise to seek the WH if you are not selected by the globalist conspiracy. This is a warning shot. The next would be a Hinckley or Oswald coming out of a crowd shooting. Rick’s presidential aspirations just ended, if he has a brain. Otherwise, he might soon have lead in his.

        • Bingo!!

      12. “The Buyback Party Is Over” – Albert Edwards Warns The “Market Is Now Running On Fumes”

        “two landmark firsts have occurred only recently, with the S&P500 breaking above 2,000 and the 10y bund yield breaking below 1%. Our Ice Age thesis has long called for sub-1% bond yields and I see this extending to the US and UK in due course. It is the equity markets where I have been consistently surprised.

        QE has been an essential driver for the equity market, providing the fuel for the heavy corporate bond issuance being used for share buybacks. Companies themselves have been the only substantive buyers of equity, but the most recent data suggests that this party is over and as profits also stall out, the equity market is now running on fumes.” – Albert Edwards


      13. OK …Gov. Perry , We all know this charge is crap. A lot of us Texans understand the spearpoint of oppression from a runaway Government. How about using this as a opportunity to assert the 10th amendment re: Texas and tell the Feds to screw off. …are ya waiting for them to help you ? Just wondering …..

      14. Would someone please loan me their decoder ring?!I have read the bill of rights many times,and in regards to the 2nd I fail time and again to see the exceptions made for the 2nd,or for that matter the others except specified.

        • I have written the clue in invisible ink (NSA, CIA ya know):

          Hold your phone or ipad over a flame to read. If that doesn’t work, I have a homing pigeon ready to go.

      15. Perry supports Agenda 21…all supporters of Agenda 21 should lose more than their right to bear arms…I’m with Jon..let this battle for Liberty and Freedom Begin Dammit!!!

        • Talon1776, if what you just said about Perry is true, then I’ll withdraw my support from him.

          • When Rick Perry decided to send Texas National Guard Troops to the border. It was not to prevent this illegal invasion of America…the troops are their to “deter and refer” to Border Control agents (of which 70% of them are on paid leave). Does the Border Control deport them back? The answer is an unequivocal NO! So what happens to these pawns of the NAU/Agenda21 conspiracy? They are bussed and put on a plane and dispersed all over the country. From Gov. Moon Beam here in California to The Godfather in Chicago to the wounded duck of Louisiana..who complains about how the federally’s have dumped them in his state. Are these people, whether they are for it or against it..in the case of Bobby Jindal..ever use their position to say no…of course not. Is the continued story of this invasion in the headlines anymore…NO! Now we here about the new boogie man on the block..ISIS and so the deflection/deception continues. This is also an Agenda 21/Cloward Piven tactic to overload not only the perceptions of people but resources as well. Rick Perry thinks that sending troops was going to get props from a gullible frantic public..when all the while he knew where these illegals were going. He is a sham and if he had any balls would fire on these illegals. But the lure of Federal Dollars to his state would be threatened if he did such a patriotic action. So there you have it…smoke and mirrors Rick and the lemmings who buy it.

            Live Free or Die..so an illegal can take your house

              • Amazing Calgagus…I too read this article just before I posted..but really tried to stay with current topic. On the topic of the illegal invasion, I would like to sight this excerpt from the very article you have read…
                Perry’s coziness with the Chinese and foreign investors exposes a huge weakness in his right flank — illegal immigration and open borders. The Trans Texas Corridor has been linked to the global plan to economically integrate North America, with the eventual goal of a common security perimeter modeled after the European Union. Perry ushered in in-state tuition for illegals and has long been an obstacle to immigration reform or any Arizona-style immigration law.
                I hope this supports my allegation and I will research more example as I can to further support this claim about Slick Rick.

                Live Free or Die

                • Talon, got it. I thought you were saying something about how the border patrol or natl guard being spread out was part of Agenda 21. I couldnt see how that linked up.

                  Wasnt the goal of the NAU to have it done before Bush left office? Seems like Obama wants it finished up before he leaves and theyve all put it all into high gear to get more illegals in here.

                  Ill look for your posts and links.

              • Unfortunately, the only way to get ahead in the republican party for the last couple decades is to become a RINO. It sucks that so many politicians start out sounding great but then are corrupted as soon as they get to DC.

          • Braveheart:

            Rick Perry “became” a Republican as of late.

            Prior to his epiphany he was Al Gore’s campaign manager in Texas.

            How low can they go?

            • Good evening, Granny. it will be interesting to see how this turns out.

      16. 2 suggestions –

        1. Gov., forget concealed carry – open carry. Hell, grab a rifle and sling it over your shoulder.

        2. Texans – “accidentally” lose some boxes of the Gov’s preferred choice of caliber on his property. I don’t see anything in the law that says he can’t “find” ammunition.

      17. It goes much deeper than this for me where I live. I was in an abusive relationship 20 years ago, and had been ARRESTED for domestic violence. Even though I called the police, I was male, and she said I hit her. No physical evidence, but I was hauled away. Charges were of course dropped when no evidence could be produced.

        Can I buy a firearm commercially? Nope. Can I own a firearm. Yup. Am I a felon. Nope. Is this fixable? Only if I seal my records. I spent the time to appeal the denial and was told the arrest and court case had never been officially “resolved”. I forget what the fancy legal term was. I guess not guilty is not good enough. Guilty even when proven innocent. – simply because of the arrest. Working as intended folks.

        So I just buy guns privately, as that is still legal – for now. Oh and I have been in possession of firearms multiple times in public, and had the cops run my name… never an issue. But they still like to check, every time, and check the breach to see if it is loaded, and ask me why I would dare carry a firearm to or from the rifle and pistol range.

        I refuse to work with the courts to seal a not guilty record to restore something that should never have been lost. The system does not work for you folks, only the corporations, that have a revolving door with fedgov.

        • TS
          I feel for you it is B.S. The Illinois State Police has to arrest the male every time. That what I was told.
          Before all the B.S. on domestic violence I could talk it out with the folks and it was over. Today I have to arrest someone. The one with the least amount of marks on them (wink.) The Illinois Supreme court ordered that we have to arrest someone.
          The worst part is it is the same people over and over again. 50% of the time it is generally with different people.
          My advises say nothing to the cops make no statements, Only do what our attorney tells you. Document everything AGAIN DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!!!


          • Thank you Sgt. I count you as one of us. Not all things in this world are shit.

            Your posts are always on track, calling bullshit when needed.

            Good to know I am not the only one on the inside.

        • Townsaver, welcome aboard. If you don’t mind me asking, was your ‘domestic’ situation something where you had to engage in an act of self-defense against the woman? Did she attack you with any lethal weapon or anything like that?

          • Indeed it was. Dodging full soup cans thrown with reckless abandon. To me that is a weapon capable of blunt force trauma. All because I refused to buy her more alcohol.

            Twenty years later, married with four wonderful kids, same wife for 19 years. But I am still the bad guy. I considered sealing but that is consent in my mind.

            The government wants your money. Not justice, not equality, just the sweat off your brow and your money.

            • Townsaver, one me question if you don’t mind. Was she not charged with anything? and did you have any due process at all?

              • She was never charged with anything, even though I had called for help. I was arrested with nothing but verbal evidence and spent six days in jail, as it was a holiday weekend.

                My due process was pleading not guilty. The DA had no evidence, since I committed no crime. I was released on my on recognizance, and told the DA could pursue charges if he/she felt it was warranted. I guess the statue of limitations does not apply for gun rights, and maybe the DA can still come and get me… What a joke.

                I suppose I could have tried to file charges, but opted to end the relationship. I left with my car and the shirt on my back, leaving behind everything else I had ever earned and achieved in my life. She got everything.

                It was the best, and hardest thing I have ever done in my life. I truly loved that woman, but she was damaged goods and to this day is unfixable.

                • Townsaver, I do sympathize with your plight, but at least you came out more fortunate than a lot of other men have. Did you know the original bill for the domestic violence law was written by a feminist? If I remember correctly it was Diane Feinstein herself. That law was and still is clearly based on gender bias toward men. It’s been proven time and again that women get special treatment under that law. I’ve had some women with alcohol and drug issues in years past. I tried to help every one of them because I cared something about them, all to no avail. They all preferred their addiction over me. I haven’t even dated anyone in 10 years. There are times when being alone hurts, but I know what abusive relationships are about. I won’t go through that again.

        • Townsaver, I feel for you man! A good friend of mine got in an argument with his wife and she sucker-punched him – slammed him on the head with a cast iron frying pan and knocked him out cold. He was still unconscious when the cops got there. Guess who got arrested????

          He woke up in the hospital chained to the bed. She was sooooo nice about not pressing charges, but like you, he still can never buy a gun commercially. Our criminal justice system totally sucks!!!

          • MXLord and Townsaver, be thankful that private gun sales are still legal. If either of you need anything, get it while you still can before we lose that option.

      18. The politicians must be going through lean times because they seem to be going after each other now. One gets drunk and drives her car and is angry she is caught. Mr. Perry cuts funding to her agency and she has him charged. The tax payer will foot the bill for this and nothing will come of it except that more lawyers will get rich.

        • Perfectly said, had this same conversation with a coworker this afternoon.

          The lawyers ALWAYS win. The taxpayer, not so much.

      19. Here is my take if Perry’s crime is abusive power then
        Obama should hang himself for being a pussy that’s his crime

      20. This B.S. he wasn’t convicted. just another GUN GRAB, by TPTB.
        People please watch you back side, TPTB will do anything to take away your guns.

      21. With Perry’s bodyguards, he doesn’t need to carry anyway.

        • Even if I had , ahh I mean especially if I had a security team I’d still be packing

      22. If I recall correctly, about 10 yrs. ago Gov. Perry was a strong supporter of the NAFTA Superhighway. He is a New World Order hack who p.o.’ed someone stronger than him, and they are trying to take him out.

        • Absolutely billybob68…absolutely
          Even as Rick Perry and W despised each other…political expediency requires if you want power, you have to support TPTB…I was a democrat..before I was a Republican before I voted for NAFTA…what weasel!

          • Billybob and Talon, don’t be surprised if we hear later of an “out of court” settlement that might go like this: in return for dropping ALL charges, Perry forever gives up any aspirations he might have for the White House. It’s possible.

            • PS, it sounds like Perry pissed off someone other political turd who’s more powerful than him and that other turd has a real hard-on for Perry. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.

              • Hmmmmm….ALLLLLLL GORRRRE…ROSE BUD

      23. The US has one of the highest rates for private gun ownership per capita in the world and climbing. The idea to allow all/you to buy guns is in the plan. Use the other side of your brain. This means we have the right amount of guns to make sure we have enough guns to kill each other off, with just the right amount of ammo. We can’t get along now- so what’s make you think we could get along in a collapse of the standing corrupted governmental system?
        The plan of the ruling elite is for us to kill each other off in a civil conflict, saves them a lot of time and hassle. Not unlike Christians/Muslims/Jews killing Christians/Muslims/Jews, pick your religion/race/war or other country. This is all a Texas gun show, Perry is part of the show and playing his role and bit part for us to get pissed and buy more guns, ammo and complain he/you has/have rights. You don’t have any government issued/constitutional declared big government rights, only the ones you were naturally given and the ones you believe in. When did you decide you needed something written by men to tell you what rights you would have or not have? The us constitution is not what you think it is, do your research.
        Perry will be well subsidized for his role, being filthy rich is better than being president of a failing corporation. Buying and stocking will make the manufactures rich while funding/buying our own demise. Wow, just like taxes. Don’t fall for it, the process of “whole brain thinking”, will serve you well, use it. I’m not saying don’t stock up, just be aware and knowledgeable how you use your stores and on who.
        Stay safe, stay thinking, stay alive

        • Vtfree2, welcome aboard, and AMEN to your comments. You’ve come to the right place.

          • braveheart thanks
            normally I don’t comment on sites. words are not actions, on most occasions words have as much value as usd’s. but, I appreciate the varied comments on this site.
            woke up during a pier echo expedition tour in san Salvador in the early eighties, remember that hell hole? so, been doing this for sometime. when I saw 911 happen on the news my very first thought was which government planned it. we now know.

            if mobs govern, your rules by idiocy. if governed by religion, your ruled by superstition. if governed by state, your ruled by fear. if self governed, you have freewill.

      24. He should open carry and say screw it!

      25. Why is Rick Perry the only one being charged with abuse of power? Chris Cristie and many others have done far worse. This is purely selective punishment to make people feel like the “justice system” still works.

        • Not sticking up for him, but Chris Christie is a boy scout compared to every politician from Chicago, New Orleans, Philthadelphia, Boston, etc in the last 100 years….

      26. This is all fishy. This just does not smell right. Rick Perry has been to Bilderberg and is an Agenda 21 supporter.

        • Maybe he realized he wasn’t on “the list”.

          Al Gore’s advisor? Seriously?

          This guy rates right up there with manbearpig.

        • Read my comment above…they aren’t taking his firearms.

      27. Classic fascist scam from the left.

        Meanwhile, no word from the leftist fascists on Benghazigate, APGate, IRSGate, Fast and Furious and such leftist jackazzes as Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.), Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, who went under investigation for tax fraud. Then it was former IRS head, Mr. “Turbo Tax” Geithner, and his tax, uh, “challenges.” This means that the two folks most responsible for U.S. tax policy were suspected tax cheats. Both cited ignorance about our tax law as an excuse (just don’t try this at home, or you’ll be doing 10-20 in Leavenworth!) Next, we move to Tom Daschle and his, er… lack of exactness with his taxes ($140,000 in taxes and interest worth, to be exact) and then on to Nancy Killefer, who was to be Chief Performance Officer, overseeing compliance, organizational effectiveness and waste management across every federal agency. Apparently, she couldn’t even oversee her own compliance with her taxes, and was also forced to drop out, right after Mr. Daschle did. Next came Hilda Solis, at the time in line to be Labor Secretary. She settled $6,000 in tax liens,, which were outstanding for up to 16 years against her husband’s auto repair business (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=410768) . OneNews also reports she appears to have violated several House ethics rules re. disclosure forms where she “forgot” to note she was the treasurer of an outside organization, as well (presumably it’s only a rumor that “the cheque’s in the mail!”)

        2. Then, we come to everbody’s unfavourite, Al Franken, who NewsMax was noted as owing $70,000 in back taxes, penalties and fines to **seventeen** states (http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/al_franken_taxes/2009/02/06/179148.html).

        3. Then there was Bill Richardson for Commerce Secretary Sorry, he had a “pay for play” investigation on him for steering state bond business to a major contributor, and also withdrew.

        4. OneNews reported that then Trade representative nominee Mayor Ron Kirk admitted he owed roughly $10,000 in taxes from 2005, 2006 and 2007 for speaking fees. Maybe he was using Turbo Tax, too? Doggone that software!

        5. Tom Daschle’s replacement at HHS, Kathleen Sebelius? Nope, problems there, too (aren’t there any socialists who aren’t crooks?) Health and Human Services nominee Kathleen Sebelius had to correct three years of tax returns and paid more than $7,000 in back taxes after finding “unintentional errors” involving charitable contributions, the sale of a home and business expenses… she and her husband, Gary, a federal magistrate judge in Kansas, paid a total of $7,040 in back taxes and $878 in interest to amend returns from 2005-2007. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090331/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/sebelius_taxes) . She also failed to disclose $23,000 in contributions from late-term abortionist George Tiller and his abortion clinic, and Family Research Council reported this week they obtained a copy of a 2002 fundraising letter from Tiller, in which he claims that he personally contributed $200,000 to ProKanDo, a political action committee (PAC) dedicated to defeating Gov. Sebelius’s pro-life opponent.

        6. Rahm Emmanuel, the guy who has sent dead fish to legislators that didn’t follow his orders, Obama’s former Chief of Staff and current mayor of bankrupt Chicago: The Our Country Deserve’s Better web site stated back then that Rahm Emmanuel violated congressional ethics rules regarding the rent-free living arrangement he enjoyed with Rep. Rosa De Lauro (D-Conn.), with some tax experts alleging this also amounted to $100,000 in taxable income that Emanuel failed to report, just as many other Obama administration aides and nominees failed to report or pay taxes on their income. Yes, another Obama White House aide who may have a tax problem. The same web site noted it also appears “Emanuel has possibly been illegally involved in that alleged scheme to sell off the U.S. Senate seat of Barack Obama. Emanuel engaged in questionable discussions with impeached Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich who is alleged to have been trying to auction off Obama’s seat to the highest bidder. Emanuel first discussed Obama’s preference of who should be appointed and then went further and submitted a list of candidates acceptable to Obama. These facts reveal that Obama and Emanuel lied when they assured the public that, Obama would have a “hands off” approach to the Illinois governor’s selection of who would replace Obama in the U.S. Senate.

        7. Then therer was Erroll Southers, who was in charge of the TSA and YOUR security when you board airplanes? Sean Hannity reported Nov. 11, 2009 that he was convicted of using the FBI to dig up dirt on the boyfriend of his ex-wife. And you thought Watergate stunk!

        8. Van Jones, who finally got turfed after taking the Green Jobs Czar position, according to his OWN account, became a communist while serving a prison term after being arrested in the 1992 L.A. riots. Media Research Center reports for the next 10 years he belonged to the activist Maoist organization STORM (Stand Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement); he has stated he is seeking “the deep satisfaction of radical ends,” and according to him, not only was the devastation of Katrina part of a white supremacy plot

        Oh yes… for extra credit,(no, you don’t get any credit for Tony Rezko

      28. The plan might be for every American to be under indictment for some spurious felony or another.

      29. They need to take away the king’s golfclubs.Also Feinstein’s & Pelosi’s double headed dildo.

      30. If we have the SHTF. And we will know it for what it is. We all should really load up and head to D.C. And take back the Federal government and reduce it to it’s original side. Fighting local enforcers is a waste of time.

        • We’d have to get through the local enforcers before we can get to them. The Patriots on the east coast have a better logistical opportunity for such a strategy…those in the Rocky Mountain region are right in the heart of it…for us on the left coast…have to wallow through a lot of bean dip before we get to the tortilla chips

      31. In sum, leftists are fascists.

        If you don’t believe me, look up the definition, which includes Mussolini’s “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”; or you can google Nazi political planks, and you will find out the planks they adopted in Munich, 1920 were identical to the Nasty Harry Reid and doofus Nancy Pelosi plans

      32. To tell the truth is revolutionary.
        – Antonio Gramsci

        …And to tell the truth against the lying leftist power mongering frauds like Gramsci (after all, to the left, since there is no ultimate truth, all that CAN exist is bald power)is even MORE revolutionary. Fraud leftists like Gramsci who pretend – as in the quote above – to actually know what truth is speak from nothing and to no one who can logically understand, as their is no actual speaking around absolutes from which real truth must be anchored in “Tao” like truths CS Lewis spoke of in the Abolition of Man. That,mon ami, is UBER revolutionary truth – calling out the left in their lies, their arrogance, their Learjet leftist hypocrisy, and the being completely bereft of logic. Leftists are just playing semantics in their arrogance and intellectual masturbation.

        And besides, when the left is done, it WILL be as that other leftist/fascist hero, Herbert Marcuse – said in popularizing the “repressive tolerance” theory of modern progressives. “Liberating tolerance would mean intolerance against movements from the right and toleration of movements from the left,” Marcuse pontificated. “Certain things cannot be said, certain ideas cannot be expressed, certain policies cannot be proposed.” The only thing needed to be added to jackass Marcuses’ quote is that all comrade/citizens will need to render, on pain of death, a seig heil or Kim Jong Un type salute to the socialist leader of the day is.

      33. Why are we not using this same tactic to indict the likes of holder,Hillary and bummer? It seems that only democrats can pull off getting a liberal grand jury to indict a sitting high level official. Really!!! Two felonies for doing his job? Yet with all the REAL felonies this administration has committed, we can not do anything to them?

        • You keep pulling that lever on the right and you’ll find that the results still suck.

          People will only learn once it is too late to save themselves.

      34. Acid Etch says:
        Comment ID: 3214842
        …….Take your “laws” and fuck a porcupine.

        I am outraged, I am incandesent with anger at your statement! WHAT HAS A PORCUPINE EVER DONE TO YOU TO DESERVE SUCH A THING!

      35. This couldn’t have anything to do with the Governor’s legal problems. Or could it? spurhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/27/gov-perry-texas-wants-its-gold-back-federal-reserv/ious

      36. Hm… wonder if Hitlery lost her right to conduct cattle futures trades, Slick to create law due to his perjury, Holder to be DOJ honcho due to… well, fill in the blank, or if fascist leftist are equally concerned about the Benghazi scam that left people DEAD, or the Lois Lerner scam.

        Oh wait. I forgot. Leftist are utter, vile, freaking hypocrites

      37. Interesting, isn’t it, that there are leftist George Soreazz trolls working this site. Reminds me of their National *Socialist* ( Nazi) forebears under Goebbels.

      38. No need to worry about Old Rick’s safety. He has armed bodyguards. Do you?

      39. We have no 2nd anymore, folks. When you are required to get approval from the .gov to carry a weapon (the right to BEAR arms), you no longer have that right. It has become a privilege. The 2nd amendment is gone, and in it’s place, a facade to pacify the constitutionalists and prevent an armed uprising.

        • The uprising can occur when they come to take you or your armaments from you, or your neighbor or his armaments from him or her–whether on your block or street or in your town, county or state. Those are the fronts for the people’s defense of their liberty and therefore their security.






      41. It’s also possible Perry was targeted because he refuses to seal the Southern border with Mexico, contradicting The Pilgrims Society’s plans for a North American Union, and also due to wanting the 6,643 100 ounce gold bars back from the NY FED Bank, again contradicting the plans of The Pilgrims Society.


      43. He’s still Commander-in-Chief of the military forces of Texas. As C-in-C of the Militia, he’s got millions of guns with him. “Felons” and “indictees” have more need for self-defense than anyone! They are those sheep who’ve been outvoted by wolves for what to have for dinner. Is it Israel that allows its felons to vote–even while still in prison? The theory is that, putting a political foe in prison and stripping him or her of voting rights is a natural tool to be misused by the nefarious.

      44. This is what is in store for every American in the country.
        Everyone needs to write, email , and call your congressman and tell them this is wrong and they should fight against
        this illegal crime against Perry or it will be us next.

        This is a crime plain and simple.

      45. Isn’t Liberal justice something to behold?
        Perry For President 2016!

      46. Well, as the lawyers are so fond of saying, “You can indict a ham sandwich”. The implication is that PROVING one’s case is a LOT more difficult than merely charging someone with a crime.

        Laws that terminate a person’s constitutional rights BEFORE they are proved and the person convicted of a felony crime are an abomination to all freedom loving people.

        It is the essence of freedom that we have our day in a fair court where our rights are protected and not be railroaded off to some gulag or have our rights stolen by demagogues of whatever stripe.

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