Detainment Camps Going Live: FEMA Seeking Subcontractors to Provide “Temporary Camp Services” In All 50 States

by | Dec 7, 2011 | Headline News | 366 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    For the better part of two decades FEMA detention camps were believed to be a figment of tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists. As more information over the years has been made available through alternative news researchers like Alex Jones in his full length documentary Police State 4 and former governor Jesse Venutra’s FEMA camp exposé, it is becoming increasingly clear that the government has been taking steps for quite some time to ensure a rapid and effective response in the event of a national disaster or U.S. military deployment on American soil.

    As many of our readers know, the U.S. Senate recently passed the National Defense Authorization Act, which, it has been argued, authorizes the establishment of domestic war zones and the subsequent detention of those who are suspected of engaging in terrorist-related activity – including, arguably, U.S. citizens. What you may not know, however, is that just days after the passage of the act reports are surfacing that the Federal Emergency Management Agency, under the auspices of the Department of Homeland Security, is requisitioning private contractors to provide services for government, defense & infrastructure pertaining specifically to FEMA activities with respect to emergency services.

    At first glance, this may seem like no big deal. Why shouldn’t the government prepare for emergencies?

    However, a review of an email made available through Info Wars from Kellogg, Brown & Root Services (KBR), a subsidiary of mega government contractor Haliburton, notes that the contracting opportunities available through the government and KBR are specifically for “temporary camp services and facilities.”

    Key Excerpts from the email and Project Overview:

    -Kellogg, Brown and Root Services (KBR) is seeking subscontractors on a national basis to provide temporary camp services and facilities as part of its current and future emergency services contracts for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), and state/local government agencies.

    The continental US will be broken up into five regions – Services will be required in each State within each region.

    -Establish services listed below within 72 hours for initial set-up and respond within 24 hours for incremental services. This is a CONTINGENCY PROJECT and it should be stressed that lead times will be short with critical requirements due to the nature of emergency responses. Subcontractors must be flexible and able to handle multiple, shifting priorities in an emergency environment.  Supply lines needed must be short but not necessarily pre-positioned.

    -The personnel on site to be covered by these services will depend on the size and scope of the recovery effort, but for estimating purposes the camp will range in size from 301 to 2,000 persons for up to 30 days in length.

    The full RFI from KBR is available for your perusal via SHTFplan and details, among other things, the host of services that are required for temporary camp facilities:

    • Catering Services
    • Temporary Fencing and Barricades
    • Hand Washing Stations
    • Laundry Services
    • Medical Services
    • Office Trailers / Administration Areas
    • Potable Water
    • Power Generation, Fuel Delivery / Supply and Electrical Distribution
    • Refuse Collection
    • Shower and Toilet
    • Tentage, Flooring, Electrical & HVAC
    • Waste Water Removal

    For all intents and purposes, FEMA / DHS is now activating camps across the nation – in all 50 states – and ramping them up for detainment if and when the need arises.

    Security, while not mentioned in the KBR release, is an issue addressed previously under guidance of the U.S. military. In an August 2009 report we highlighted that the Army is Hiring for Internment/Resettlement Specialists, in which we noted:

    It seems that the US Government is preparing for a high volume of military prisoners. We suspect these will not be foreign nationals, as we either kill them or detain them outside of the USA. So, one must conclude that these corrections, interment and resettlement specialists will be supervising US citizens. The military is calling them internment camps or resettlement camps. Back in World War II they were called by a different name.

    Additionally, we have learned over the last couple of years that FEMA has  requisitioned manufacturers for 140 Million Packets of Food, Blankets, and Body Bags, while the U.S. military is Actively War Gaming ‘Large Scale Economic Breakdown’ and ‘Civil Unrest’ which includes training for over 20,000 US military personnel for contingencies that may include riots and/or mass detentions.

    While mainstream media will not report this, and most of the population will either ignore it or chalk it off as being once again blown out of proportion by the alternative news sphere, the evidence is right in front of us – it is overwhelming and very compelling.

    Our government is, without a doubt, preparing for an event(s) that will likely result in the mass detentions of tens of thousands of individuals across the entire United States.

    Hat tip Revere’s Ride, John Rolls


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      1. A point of clarification on the above article. The PTB is not preparing for an event, they are actually planning the event. I have no proof, other than my infallible instincts for treachery.

        • Hi TxBuck,

          Right you are!

          Listen to your instincts on this one!,.. NOT what the “Joesph Gobbels Ministry Of Proganda” (our Main-Stream Media), our “elected” representatives or Beaurocrats are saying (and I do use the term, “elected” quite loosely (see: Invisible Ballot by G. Edward Griffth)

          FEMA are NOT for illegal aliens, they are NOT for our “safety”, they are Not to help Americans,.. they are incarnation of Political Prisoner Camps, which then will morph (intentionally) into Mass Extermination Camps,… EXACTLY the same way it occurred in that little town called,….Uhmmmm,….hmmm,…. Oh yeah,…. NAZI-GERMANY! (or have people already forgotten about that?)

          In regards to European American’s comment right below,… I have a friend who was one of the supervisoring contractors for building some of these FEMA camps, although thats not what they called them directly. He told me a great deal about the construction details, but more shocking was the meetings he would have with the agencies involved and what he called their “sheer arrogance and audacity”. Even he was completely floored by the attitutde of these people, and how they preceived it as “their duty” to corral Americans into these future death camps for their “own good”!

          I post an assay on the subject of what is coming as a second posting, as somethimes they censor comments that start getting a little to long.

          JD – US Marines.

          • Gentlemen……..prepare to defend yourselves!

            • When I need one of those there will be plenty off them laying on the ground!


              But please, my fellow Americans, realize the following:

              1) Numbers confer NO military advantage (Sun Tzu – The Art Of War)

              2) All battles are lost or won before they are fought. (again, Sun Tzu – The Art Of War)

              This simply means – It is NOT numerical superiority that determines the victor, it is Organization, Communication, Training, Information and Moral Superiority, otherwise US Marines would have lost virtually every battle they have engaged in, as we are almost ALWAYS outnumbered!

              We may have 90+ Million Gun Owners in this country, but unless we unite, organize and act in concert with a singular strategy and set of tactics, they will pick us off one at a time or in small groups at a time,.. AS THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING.

              One must start a Nation Wide Patriots Group dedicate to the singular function of recognizing the the US Federal is NOT an American gov’t, but an Enemy Gov’t Force In Occupation, Corrupted, bought, & Wholly Controlled by the International Bankster, Wealthy Elite, and Psychotic Individuals who have sold out this country for every ounce of personal gain they could attain by such treason!

              This is WHY Americans are being called “Terrorists”, why ANY attempt to legitimately organize a Patriots Group has been labeled a “terrorist organization”!


              NAM MARINE is aboslutely right, but, defending “yourself” is only good against the roving street gangs, it does nothing against the biggest threat humanity has ever faced, which is,…. THE BANKSTERS! (The Rothchilds in paritcular, but also the Rockefellars, Soros, DuPonts, Ted Turner, etc, etc, etc)

              Men like Nam Marine would be the kind needed to organize people local to him, and ensure that his groups efforts are co-ordinated with the Nation Wide Patriots Groups efforts.

              Hang Tight Nam Marine – I am trying to organize a LEGAL, nation wide group to “address” our concerns.

              JD – US Marines – Fighting Against The Foreign & Domestic Enemies Of OUR Country.

            • Obama has vowed to veto this legislation, if it clears the House and gets to him.

              Truth is stranger than fiction when the freedom of this country rests in the pen of a closet socialist.

              Let us hope he is not paid off, and makes good on his word.

            • Can’t take no pictures lyin’ down there sonny!

            • I am armed and ready to assist when and where needed!

              Former US Marine – Charlie Co. 1/1 0311

            • I ran cement for dozens if facilities before I was laid of at halliburton, the crappy thing was is we were never told what the cement was for and it didn’t go down a hole, lost my job shortly after we cemented 22 governmemt locations mainly Texas and New Mexico, and California. I have been awake for a couple years now and a visitor to this site for a few months. Keep up the good work
              Mac.I think I need to peep more

            • I agree with the need to find like-minded people to form a common and united group, and organize within areas they can monitor, patrol and defend. However, in a realistic sense, to set up “a priori” groups, either national or regional as suggested by US Marines would be extremely difficult and provide identifiable homing beacons for the “System”. By establishing a Nation Wide Patriots Group with the stated dedication, you instantly place a big florescent target on all members. How do you LEGALLY run such a group that will immediately have every gov’t agency set up a whole data system containing everything about anyone connected to it? Keep it secret? Not likely. “Legal” is a relative term these days, as an executive order or a signed bill can make anything illegal under the guise of “national security”. You’d be labelled as terrorists and insurgents immediately, and the established media would march in step with that tag on every TV/radio/cable station in the land. Individual “off the grid” types will be easy pickings for roundups and elimination, whether by gov’t agents or by roving mobs. I believe a “crash” scenario, will likely initially result in huge influxes of new members into militia and survival groups already in existence, with accumulated supplies as the “payment” for entry. Few realize the planning, social and logistical nightmare it would be to “usefully organize” even a localized group of like-minders into a functioning body in a collapse environment. Its easy to talk about here, but DOING it while in that situation is no picnic. Prepper and survival types will tend to migrate to acceptable groups they already know have been functioning before trying to unite and find others they have no idea of where to look for. “Loners” looking for others to unite with will first be seen as a potential “enemy” , and will be targets while they roam around looking for others to unite with. To be aware of like-minders in your present very local community, and having private discussions on planning for an Aftermath is the best. This is especially important for urban dwellers. Very few people can just “leave cities” now to avoid the possibility of what can happen. You need unity in numbers to safely survive anywhere, particularly cities, during the first few weeks/months of collapse. But to establish any large “membership” group now, on a national or even state or regional basis, is inviting too much attention. You KNOW they are watching, snooping and waiting, and the first to occupy those FEMA camps will be those seen as a threat to central control, and big groups with vast open memberships that broadcast that the govt is not recognized are a mighty big threat that would need rapid squelching. Of course, an apocalypse big enough would define its own level of situational circumstances locally, regionally and nationally. Maybe there will be no gov’t left organized enough to round up anyone. Things may be VERY different from place to place. For all the planning we make, no one really knows what can or will happen until it starts.

            • US Marine:
              We absolutely need to be organized and prepared nationally. What I wish to throw into the discussion is that there already exists a legal and historically proven vehicle for doing exactly what you propose. That vehicle is the Militias of the individual states. Give that some thought as legitimate, Constitutional Militias already exist in many states so their coordination nationally could provide the backbone for achieving a national response.

              For God & Country,
              Mike Travis
              Ohio Minutemen Militia

          • memba me
            USMC 1879298

          • “but more shocking was the meetings he would have with the agencies involved and what he called their “sheer arrogance and audacity” Rather like that one state official in Nevada, remember the video was posted on here? The one where she wouldn’t let a farm serve their own organic food, and made them poor bleach on it?? Yep, I can see that kind of arrogance would be running rampant through our government!!

          • No ‘GOOD’ has ever come to pass for anyone throughout history who has voluntarily entered any sort of a government run internment camp. It all begins when they report for registration, just prior to actual transportation to the camps.

            When you realize that the bar of soap that you have been issued just prior to being herded into the ‘shower’ is actually made of stone/plastic ……. it will be too late.

            DON’T get on the bus to “Camp FEMA” …… it isn’t anything like Camp Kitchiewamma. Be advised!!!

            • You’re implying the Germans gassed Jews inside gas chambers made to look like showers? Go back and re-read the latest historical research. There is no evidence the Germans ever had a mass extermination program inside the work camps. Those films you watched showing stacked bodies are most likely victims of Typhus and starvation (the Allies bombed the supply lines to the camps). The “6 million Jews gassed by Germans” meme was fabricated by Rothschild agents just after the war to gain sympathy for Jews stealing land from Palestinians. The figure of 6 million dead Jews has been revised down a half dozen times since 1946. Last I heard, evidence supports Jewish camp deaths of way less than 1 million, perhaps less than 100,000.

            • This statement above has high validity in truth.

              The 102 “Down Thumb” clickers as of this reply date are a success story to the Fascist Elite Oligarch Neo-Con psyop brainwashing machine of tyranny, deceit, propaganda and lies, all implemented many decades ago through false educations in history, world events, government, and political science classes.
              They expound further delusional mental processes through religious teachings that diluted their human spirit and ability to question authority, becoming compliant conformist to slavery of the mind and person.

              I would guess that many in this pathetic count of ignorance are supporters of Israel and the mental sickness of Zionism. Intelligent Jews know these facts and despise Zionism’s evil control of Israel and the global domination of the worlds resources, with their wars fought predominately by American Military’s young men and women. The genocide of 6,000,000 Jews is a farce of great magnitude designed to instill the corrupt agendas of a future apartheid state and a New World Order. All of this planned in early ‘think tanks’ of which exist today. AIPAC has made American Government Israel’s bitch for decades because Zionist have been cowards throughout history, thus manipulating American citizens perception of reality through their controlled media, education, politics, big pharma, food, water, air poisoning and our puppet shadow government.

              Most evident is the horrific perpetrated events of September 11th, 2001, operated by the Israeli Mossad, along with the CIA, MI-5, the Bush crime family, Saudi Royal Family, International Banksters, Cantor Fitzgerald, Goldman Sachs, the US Naval Command, and many others intoxicated with greed, power and Psychopathic mentalities of perversion.

          • Hi US Marines,

            I have to tell you that I agree 100% with all of your postings! We are no longer a free republic and it is time to organize nationally all of our Veteran brothers and sisters for what is coming to this country. According to DHS we are now considered a #1 threat to our own country, I beg to differ and would say we are now the #1 deterrent to this insane government and it’s psychopathic intentions! I served for 10 years and after all that time I could never bring myself to the thought of raising a rifle against our own citizens, government Perps no problem but average Joe never ! I had hope that these events would not unfold and come to fruition, but it can no longer be denied! God bless us all, we will need it!

            God, Country, Corps and Family
            Semper Fi,
            USMC 2111

            • Hi USMC 2111,

              Semper-Fi My Brother!

              You just gave me the phrasing I have been struggling to come up with:

              “According to DHS we are now considered a #1 threat to our own country, I beg to differ and would say we are now the #1 deterrent to this insane government and it’s psychopathic intentions!”

              This “ENEMY IN OCCUPATION” (The Domestic Enemy in America called the Fed Gov’t) need to justify villifying the one group of Patriots that can truly resist their siezure of the USA -> Patriots willing to fight,…. ESPECIALLY VETERANS!

              Why? -> BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW TO!

              I wish I could find more local support to get a Patriots Group up and running, we don’t have much time, and they are in that vulnerable stage of making their criminal overthrow of our gov’t obvious, and people waking up and realizing what is occurring!


              USMC 2111: IF you wish to write to me, I have set up a scrub email account for just that purpose:

              [email protected]

              Lets get our gameplan together here and now,…or we can all talk about what we SHOULD have done while in the FEMA camps awaiting our disposal.

              JD – US Marines – Defenders Of America & The American Consititution

            • I have to agree with the Leather Necks posting on here! We have been labeled terrorists bye a government that we have kept in power! The time comes near when we will be forced uphold our sacred oath! They understand that someone who will give up there freedoms, blood, sweat,& tears (& there very life if need be) to defend the Constitution will not be stopped with a DD214! They understand that that oath is forever! Thus we are labeled terrorists! I’m just glad that they have trained us well!

              Semper Fi!
              USMC 1345

            • thank you ….well said

            • USMC 2111
              I recall a speech by Bush where he said we were entering a 100 year war on terrorism. I got the message. Brave new America . Well, we will be brave, my friend.

              Supplies will be redirected to detention centers in an effort to keep them out of the hands of the survivors for what is to come.
              This can last for several months or years. That is why prepping is so important.

              This is the new world order that will emerge. Wealthy and dirt poor.

              I think that you have realized this by now along with most that follow this site. It will come to this.

              We are the people and patriots of this nation and know what needs to be done in this event.

            • Your past service, your future service, and your awakened intelligent mind give true patriots a greater sense of sanity and hope. A ‘thank you’ will never be enough to express one’s gratitude, respect and instilled brotherhood in humanity. Within you is compassion and integrity as a good man. Valued and rare traits in a mad world. Much inner peace and success to you always!

          • I read this article earlier today. I wanted to maybe think about it a little before I put my two cents in. This bill serves multiple purposes. First off look at how many voted for it, all but three, hum interesting. Why would that be? Is there really that much of a terrorist threat in this country? Is there something we are not aware of in this country? Maybe? OR is it a convenient way to quiet dissenters down and push them back in a hole? Do they actually believe this bill is going to threaten a real committed terrorist? That’s stupid! I think the latter part on more to the point. This lofty group I believe wants us to pussy up and be grateful to them for what they do. But I do think this will be short lived for the most part. Just about the time they go after the wrong guy, bite off a chunk and get a little more than expected. This will happen a few times and someone will have to reevaluate the program. So they at that point have to figure out how to get American soldiers to detain or kill Americans in America. And yes I said “kill.” How do they train Law enforcement to kill? They train them to a strict set of standards, if a situation goes this far, shoot the suspect and shoot to kill him. It’s a lot cheaper to defend a good or bad shooting than it is to pay off your estate. Officer safety is paramount, remember that. It looks as though some of our political leaders might be thinking they are on thin ice and might be a little concerned about showing their face in public. I am sure they are linking this bill to Gabby Giffords shooting in Tucson. That guy was just some left wing nutball and now we all are rolled up with him. Hence John McCain. In the beginning; I never heard of Obama. Who the fuck was this guy? But what he said that really got my attention was when he said; we need a force that is as well trained and as well financed as the Military in this counter. I was stunned. What the hell does he need that for? I Guess, now we know. More to come, I’m sure.

            • I believe an actual terrorist threat is not really what is going on. Perception is everything, the reality doesn’t matter. The whole thrust behind most of what Big Brother is putting out, both from the visible gov’t and the actual gov’t (they are quite different in form and operation), is to create the proper perception in the mind of the public. Most people are too simplex minded to distinguish between perception and reality, and as long as the Powers can convince you to see what they want you to see, you will accept it. Most of us sum this up with the term “sheeple”. Tyranny grows by creating enough fear that the public will go along. Tyranny also grows when actions by the Powers are answerable only to the Powers that instigated the action; most of us know this as the “Rule of Law”. Rule of Law is probably the most abused and under-estimated phrase in current affairs, and also the most useful tool of tyranny’s growth. We have been hypnotized by laws…Rule Of Law, law-abiding, blah blah blah. Even conservative talk show hosts parade the phrase like it came off some mountain written on a tablet. They, like most, are confusing Moral Law and Positive Law. China used the Rule of Law to take out a few Tiananmen Square proletarians a few decades back. Hitler used the Rule of Law to confiscate guns, Stalin used it to legally eliminate his dissidents. Lincoln used it to round up anti-war Northerners, many of whom “disappeared by Rule of Law. Just remember, THEY can do anything they want under a Rule of Law…al they have to do is make a law. That makes you the bad guy and them the protector of the masses. And therein lies the power of creating a perception.

            • You know…im damned sick and tired of this administration of forcing shit down our throat and ruining this country. Im 60+ now and if needed i will server our country again. My fear is they will lock up all us sheep dogs and herd the rest over the cliff…with us to follow. Damn greedy no good sonsabitches. Screw em all…

              Ex Ranger here…waiting to go to battle once again!

          • Xiccarph, you nailed it. Unfortunately, we are limited to local “grass roots” responses in any life changing social event. Complicating matters is the fact that the wake-up call has not made its way through most neighborhoods. Finding trustworthy, like minded souls is difficult-at best. And when you do, ask yourself if those individuals can contribute, trade their skills with yours and keep THEIR integrity without YOUR food supplies when their family is hungry or in the face of a substantial govt REWARD to turn in “hoarders” or “gun owners”. Cash paid, down low prep w/o the tongue wagging will give one more options when the time comes.

          • The New World Order will not happen on its own, it has to be ‘nudged/manufactured’. Now, the question becomes-why is Obama fomenting ‘democratic’ uprising all over the Middle East, a place where the ONLY way to keep any semblance of order is through strongmen?
            Once the Mid East burns out of control there will be the makings of WW 3. The most efficient way to round up people is to have ‘camps’ ready and fears of chaos spread.
            Moreover, Obama’s PURPOSEFUL spread of class warfare (ala Alinsky tactics)is NO accident. Cities burning within the US, plus the Mid East on fire, where much of the oil comes from, is an efficient recipe for manufactured disaster.Fears of WW 3 would stoke the crisis.

          • These internment camps can also be used to house government officials and their sympathizers that WE THE PEOPLE arrest when we take our country back.

        • Short Essay #3: America Has ALREADY Been Overthrown!



          This country has been invaded and taken over by the international bankers, who then corrupted every aspect of our government.

          The US Federal Government is NOT an American gov’t. It is an “ENEMY FORCE IN OCCUPATION” that has camouflaged its overthrow of the US Gov’t.

          From the point of view of a Constitutional America,….none of the current events make sense.

          From the point of view of an “Enemy Force In Occupation”,……EVERYTHING makes sense.

          Their design is simple:

          1 – SUBJUGATE: TSA, DHS, FDA, FBI, Cops, Courts, Cameras Everywhere, etc.

          2 – EXTRACT WEALTH: IRS, The Federal Reserve, Sheriffs (they willingly kick people out of their homes), Congressional Bail-Outs (Being Un-Constitutional hasn’t stopped them)

          3 – EXTERMINATE: False-Flag Ops – 9/11, WTC Bombing, Oklahoma City Bombing, Anthrax, Forced Vaccinations, The Coming False-Flags Ops of Nuclear-Bio Agents.

          This has been the British/International Banksters/Israeli mode of subversive takeover through out their respective existences,… especially for the British, thru outright coercion and thru the Banking systems (look at what they did to China, India, Indonesia, and EVERY other country they had been in).

          They (the Wealthy Elite that constitute the Shadow Gov’t, CIA, FBI, International Banksters, Rogue Elements of the American, British and Israeli Gov‘t) are about to take all the previous experiences they have learned to a whole NEW level.

          As such, the USA is not “America The Free”, it is actually the largest POW Camp in the world and we are all prisoners and potential disrupters, hence the Dep’t Of Homeland Security (which is actually Homeland Gestapo) has labeled Americans who still think andact like this is the USA and “resist” the occupation as…….. “terrorists”.

          Since we ARE technically POW’s, then the Law Of War and the Geneva Convention should apply, and the principles for ALL POW’S to observe is:

          – It is the Duty of all POW’s to RESIST our captors by every means possible.

          – To disrupt their designs and actions by any and all means.

          – To REFUSE to cooperate in any way.

          – To Refuse any/all special treatment.

          – To provide no information expect name, rank, serial number (SS #)

          – To create as much difficulty as possible to cause the greatest use of personnel and assets so as to reduce their capacity to wage warfare elsewhere on us.


          It is our duty to “defend our country against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic”, and clearly, the enemy of greatest destruction against the US, are the domestic ones.

          It is time for Americans to recognize that the USA HAS been overthrown by the International Bankers, aided and abetted by corporations, corrupt politicians and a judicial system that has been wholly bought-off.

          We are not fighting to correct an American Gov’t, We are fighting to eliminate this Enemy called the Federal Government, and PUT an AMERICAN Government Back in power!

          People will not realize the value of Freedom and Liberty,… until they have lost it.

          Then, it is to late to restore it without violent confrontation, or,…simply yield and welcome death.

          JD – US Marines – Fighting To Restore An American Gov’t.


          The “Enemy Force In Occupation” called the US Federal Gov’t, is controlled by the same people who control the Free Press, Mass Media, or the proper term – “The Joseph Gobbels Ministry Of Propaganda”

          Most Americans genuinely have no clue that they are simply fodder, and in the view of the International Bankers that are running this country, we are LESS than roaches in their eyes! At least roaches don’t consume some of the earths more valuable resources like oil and natural gas,… hence their desire to reduce the human population by over 90% to less than 1 Billion (there are currently 7 Billion people, estimated)

          They will soon be moving into the final phase of “population mitigation” by using a Nuclear False-Flag to obtain the shock and awe needed to institute COG, REX84, Martial Law, and it will be coupled with a Bio Agent (Small Pox and Pneumonia Hemorrhagic) to provide the excuse to herd the masses into “Treatment Camps”,.. FEMA Camps, where most will die and leave up a flue pipe as hot exhaust gases (high heat is the only way to destroy pathogens with 100% certainty). This is called an oven no matter how you wish to describe it.

          Solution Assets:

          We have Americans willing to fight.

          Most Americans have firearms.

          We have the moral high ground (A Sun Tzu requirement to win)

          What we lack:

          Organization, communication, concise information.

          If a group of selfless men can organize a Patriots Group to address the Overthrow of the American Gov’t that has occurred, everything will fall into place on its own,… hence why DHA, TSA, FBI, CIA, NSA, NRO, and a host of other alphabet organizations we never even heard of are SCOURING the country to spot any such effort.

          The Prison camp guards don’t want us inmates to realize our predicament, and develop a response plan.

          But we will succeed.

          JD – US Marines – Defender of The US Constitution.

          • JD ~ What you write rings of the Truth. If anyone can organize such a thing, it’s you.

            • Hi Daisy,

              Great to hear from you again!

              For those who don’t know Daisy, she is one of the more unique people in this world. She and I have communicated off-site several times, and not only is she incredibly intelligent, but I have seen her picture,.. she’s also absolutely beautiful! (One of those rare treasures we are fortunate to have participate in our awaking process!)

              (Please check your inbox, as I did send a follow-up message yesterday in response to your kind offer.)

              Daisy, allow me to post another short essay on the general goal of what a REAL solution looks like:

              Note: There are NO specifics here, or even Strategic outlines as that would be the same as “tipping our hand”, the below essay is as much as can be stated as they truly believe there is no way to stop them at this point.


              The USA is now the largest POW Camp in human history.

              As for us Americans being held prisoner,…it is worse than that.

              When a person is held as a prisoner, the jailer has some responsibility to our welfare.

              In the case of this Enemy Force In Occupation, called the US Federal Gov’t,… it is their design to exterminate us!

              Not all of us, not all at once, as they don’t want the prisoners rioting and fighting back,.. God forbid the majority of dumbass Americans should wake up in time for their own execution,… no, that would never do.

              – They will use people to herd people.

              – They will use people to control people.

              – They will use people to suppress, beat, torture, and intimidate people.

              – They need people to fill the prisons (FEMA Camps).

              – They need to people to build the control grids, and other infrastructure of mass-control.

              – They need the mechanics, machinists, doctors, lawyers, laborers, farmers, and such.

              THEN,… after they have the chess board set up to their liking,… its time to reduce numbers!

              It will come in the form of a pathogen (Bio Weapon), most probably an influenza strain that has been modified/engineered to be particularly lethal to anyone that did not receive the antigen.

              This leaves no “smok’n gun”,… just piles of rotting corpses to deal with.

              Of course, if people start to wake up, or start fighting back, these psychos might start WW3 just to “teach” us who is in control, like they are threatening to do now!

              There is only one workable solution:

              Declare the IMF, World Bank, BIS, Federal Reserve Of The US, and ALL Central Banks Of Europe, and ESPECIALLY,.. the ROTHCHILDS as the GLOBAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION that they are!

              Have them tried, convicted and hung for Treason, Crimes Against Humanity, and for War Crimes!

              Seize ALL the assets of the these “Banks” and return them to their respective countries.
              Since the Rothschild’s hold nearly 1/2 of ALL the gold in the world, it will be seized and used to create a true Gold Backed Currency for all nations.

              Since the Rothschild’s are the most pernicious, thieving, lying, villainous bag of filth in human history, and have caused more deaths and wars than ALL other nations, groups and individuals combined, they will be the first to hang from the neck until dead,… ALL of the ROTHCHILDS!

              Issue a global decree that FORBIDS ANY COUNTRY from having a PRIVATE CENTRAL BANK under the pain of a War Crimes Tribunal and for Crimes Against Humanity.

              Get RID of Private Central Banks, and the treacherous Rothschild’s,,… and you get rid of 90% o the worlds problem OVERNIGHT!

              JD – US Marines – Calling for execution of the worlds biggest Terrorist Organization – THE CENTRAL BANKS and its CEO, the ROTHCHILDS!

            • Oh wow. Serioiusly blushing.

              Thanks, JD. 😀

          • The federal government has been our enemy since March 9, 1933. That was the date they amended the Trading With the Enemy Act of 1917 to include citizens of the united States.

            • Lets just call these places by the correct name,

              There is nothing new here.
              This has all been done before, they know exactly
              how to do it. Hostory repeats, it always does.

            • I had a bad dream last night 🙁
              I dreamed that first they rounded up the OWS kids in the parks, put them on buses and they were taken to the camps, never to be heard from again…

              Then when they “finished” with them they seized websites like and rounded up (in the middle of the night) the people who ran them and took them to the camps… never to be heard from again…

              Then they used out the list of people on food stamps, and they rounded up all of thsoe people, took them to the (now empty)(again) camps… and those folks were never heard from again…

              Then… then I woke up… it felt too real. It shook me.

            • Man, between the known locations of thses camps and the freeking in place executive oders this could all happen really fast…. it is scary, and it has happen before, not too long ago, only 70 years ago, men did this to other men, they rounded people up, put them in camps, murdered them and then brought in more humans… over and over and over… what could keep it from happening again? saying “This is America” Do you think that alone could/would/will stop it?

              I am NOT affilaited with this web site, but it lists both the locations (some seem iffy)(can we get some loacl independent opinions about these locations?) and the executive orders…



              The following Executive Orders, now recorded in the Federal Register, and therefore accepted by Congress as the law of the land, can be put into effect at any time an emergency is declared:

              10995–All communications media seized by the Federal Government.
              10997–Seizure of all electrical power, fuels, including
              gasoline and minerals.
              10998–Seizure of all food resources, farms and farm equipment.
              10999–Seizure of all kinds of transportation, including your
              personal car, and control of all highways and seaports.
              11000–Seizure of all civilians for work under Federal supervision.
              11001–Federal takeover of all health, education and welfare.
              11002–Postmaster General empowered to register every man, woman
              and child in the U.S.A.
              11003–Seizure of all aircraft and airports by the Federal Government.
              11004–Housing and Finance authority may shift population from
              one locality to another. Complete integration.
              11005–Seizure of railroads, inland waterways, and storage facilities.
              11051–The Director of the Office of….. continued on the webpage


              Opelika – Military compound either in or very near town.
              Aliceville – WWII German POW camp – capacity 15,000
              Ft. McClellan (Anniston) – Opposite side of town from Army Depot;
              Maxwell AFB (Montgomery) – Civilian prison camp established under
              Operation Garden Plot, currently operating with support staff and small inmate population.
              Talladega – Federal prison “satellite” camp.

              Wilderness – East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only. Estimated capacity of 500,000
              Elmendorf AFB – Northeast area of Anchorage – far end of base. Garden
              Plot facility.
              Eielson AFB – Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility.
              Ft. Wainwright – East of Fairbanks

              Ft. Huachuca – 20 miles from Mexican border, 30 miles from….. continued

          • JD, I am not a marine but I am a proud American and will defend my country to my death. You ,all you marines can count on my support. I am ready to defend the constitution when ever you are. As an American I have nothing to apologize for and I am ready to throw the crooks out. Count on my support.

            Thank you for your service.


          • YES: We must diversify 9 to maintain a viable system, 7 redundancy, 0 Oganize we must and soon 7 Communicate, is essential 9 to organizing and 9 must be secure and redundant. 7 JD I would 6 like to get in communication 9 with you for this 5 reason. Please give me a call when you get a chance.

          • I’m not ex-military or tactically trained however I have the means to the ends of what US Marine speaks of and I have to agree with his assessment of the situation. I would stand beside this marine and any other veteran out here that served this country. What really upsets me is people in this country now are letting what freedoms and liberties we have left slip away that our relatives spilled their blood for and I for one will refuse to live under the oppressive and tyrannical government that they are forcing upon the people of this country today. I’m deeply sadden that most people don’t understand how the country is changing right under their noses and I’m not sure if they care or they are really that naive.

          • JD-US Marine, I agree whole heartedly. Lets be willing to take action now, to start gathering, searching out, and using every means possible to find those like minded individuals who can defend this country.

            And for those civillians who either don’t have arms or arent able to defend, Lets spread the word so that those who do can help! Ignorance is the enemy, the more people who know, the better.

          • I accidentally put thumbs down im with you brother.


          • Haman was hung on his own gallows!

            • exactly…..govt=Hammon…..we the people=Mordecia

            • Let’s round up the bastiges and throw them in their own cages.

            • Thats right, we are being hung by our own gallows. Think about this.. Pretty much every dime of money we send to the government through our taxes is being used against us. We are paying for our own destruction. We are paying these politicians big salaries to pass legislation like the NDAA, make themselves rich through insider trading. The people that were really twisting arms to get Obama Care passed invested in companies that will profit from it. These people are taking anything they can get before the collapse, and causing it at the same time. They are declaring us ‘enemy combatants’, when they are without a doubt the biggest threat to this country. Most people I know just want to live their lives, and not have to worry about what the government is going to come up with next. There is no doubt, we are in those times where people really do FEAR their government. Everything this current government is doing is counter-intuitive to what a free society is about. We have sent our young people to Iraq, Afghanistan, and all over the world to protect our ‘Freedoms’. A lot of them come back with no arms, legs, faces, and in pieces and parts in boxes. To defend our Freedoms? This governments policies, and the recent laws passed by our ‘leaders’ is a spit in the face of everyone that has served our Military past and present. Just think what mind set it takes for these politicians, and the powers that be, to tell our young men and women they are going to war to defend our country, and our freedoms abroad, while at home they are making laws that consider them, their families, and friends terrorists or enemy combatants at the same time. I for one am no longer going to pay for the destruction of my family, friends or any other Citizen of this country. Screw them Im not paying another dime!!!!

            • Esther, one of my favorite books of bible, where God is never mentioned but, is seen in handling the circumstances behind the scenes

        • I suspect that this website is ALSO run by insiders who put forth a truth/lie mixture. Remember, the Elitists always play both sides of the game. Just a word of caution.

        • Lets quit talking and get organized before it is to late.

          • Good to see people awakening.For name for a group besides militias I would favor a name less giving away details such as the white house support group of militias.

        • The time to organize has come and gone, the demonstration of the “occupy” peeps getting pepper sprayed must have given some kind of a clue that we no longer have the right to gather together and speak out in a peaceful demonstration. The days when we tried to tell people about the camps, the guillotines, the train cars, the burial containers have meant nothing. People called us crazy. May as well get ready to CMOA (cover my own ass). Good luck to all of you who speculate our fate, may God Bless us All!

        • We were keeping our eye on 1984. When the year came and the prophecy didn’t, thoughtful Americans sang softly in praise of themselves. The roots of liberal democracy had held. Wherever else the terror had happened, we at least, had not been visited by Orwellian nightmares.
          But we had forgotten that alongside Orwell’s dark vision, there was another-slightly older, slightly less well known, equally chilling: Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World. Contrary to common belief even among the educated, Huxley and Orwell did not prophesy the same thing. Orwell warns that we will be overcome by an externally imposed oppression. But in Huxley’s vision, no Big Brother is required to deprive people of their autonomy, maturity and history. As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.
          What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions.” In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.
          This book is about the possibility that Huxley, not Orwell, was right.

          This is the foreword from Neil Postman’s book, Amusing Ourselves To Death

          I added this because I believe the powers at be do not have to erect any special facilities to contain us. We’ve already done it for them.


          • Thank you for this post MG;I would tend to agree with the Huxley view. You can see it every day in society in very simple and observable forms. How many la-la-landers have all of us seen walking out into traffic texting on their iPads, never looking right or left, assuming others are watching out for their dumb asses? Then you have the lawmakers who legislate that these la-la-landers have the right-of way! What is this mezmerization with reality shows…how many people do you know of that literally seem to live for these shows? Escapism? We live in an instant-gratification society. Everyone deserves all they want as a Right. Those on the gov’t dole have more material items and spending money than anyone who has a job. Society is rotting from within and becoming compliant little law-abiders to an ever increasing infinity of laws. Granted, most of this dominates in metropolitan areas, but the Masters for decades now have been pushing this into rural areas by mandate via the ever growing Rule of Law.

            • Oh, and the most telling of all indicators…the brainwashing of by now multiple generations of children in public schools and “community activities” are lobotomized by self-esteem policies, tolerance, degrading all competition (ALL get a trophy, keep no scores, and don’t play any games that remotely could cause harm, eliminating recess), and revisionist history. Why teach anyone to think, when conformity is so much more controllable?

        • In my younger years I remember seeing political posters advertising candidates for the Communist Party, a third Party. I don’t see these campaigns anymore because the Communist Party has bought into an active, ongoing corporation, The Democratic Party. ( Why reinvent the wheel) Thus, the Democratic Socialist Party. Rest assured that the Republican Party will also be infiltrated by Bildbergers, Trilateral Commission, and Socialist thinking politicians also. ——— Maybe we should also prepare more stringently to replace the closet non American legislators with people who have shown their culture, and philosophical ideas to be more in line in Constitutional government as written — not as rewritten. The Constitution is not to be messed with. The Tea Party is on the right track but, are the masses getting together to be led or to lead?

          • Respectfully, the “tea party” for all of their efforts, are truly, deaf, dumb, and blind.

            They ignore the cause of the financial demise of America and the erosion of OUR liberties: namely FREE TRADE.

            Check their websites. They scream FREE TRADE! They have swallowed the propaganda that FREE TRADE is a FREEDOM!

            It is their answer to more jobs and greater wealth; while the numbers from the past 30 years tell a totally different story.

            FREE TRADE, the managed trade system of the FED, GB’s, and PTB, is the root cause that enriches and corrupts Congress, while Congress erodes OUR rights and liberties.

            The tea party needs to be educated just as much as OWS. Both are well intentioned, but both miss the mark.

            Organization must begin at the local level to elect third party Congressmen and women. A new Congress of Patriots is the only way that the NWO can be defeated: and at their own game.

            They want US to belive that it is “too late”. They want US to believe that “your vote doesn’t count”. BS! Propaganda! The philosophy of losers and defeatists!

            The America First Party or the Constitution Party needs to be manned by Patriots to organize, volunteer, donate, and vote.

            90 million gun owners could restore America.

            • I totally agree. I thought of a new party name way back in the ’90s when Billy was Pres and people disgusted with him. I also named it America First Party!

              I am for isolationism and have been since grade school. This is the only way we can protect our country and our freedoms.

              I was wise for my age then when they were trying to teach us the crap about Social Security. I thought if they were forcing us to save money for retirement because we were too stupid or inept to do it on our own, why not rather let us put a percentage of our paychecks into a bank account, etc. which would build through the years and we would have plenty. I was in grade school in the ’60s.

        • I personally know of one patriot who having attempted to prepare for what might be referred to something like the “Minute Men”, Militia, or just being prepared for helping his people overcome adversity of non-American insurgents overcoming or overtaking his region by being prepared with weapons, food, and defensive facilities. —- He has completed his two year sentence and is now continuing with probation in lieu of being sent to Guantanamo as a terrorist. ——– Using methods of hitting the government head-on by being prepared with defensive equipment places us in a precarious position of being labeled as anti government or, anti American by those wanting to “change” America..

        • Maybe we should side-step corrupt government and do as the Tea Party is doing and replace unsuitable government authority with more suitable patriots while at the same time being prepared to resist bad legislation already on the books. ———- Our Legislators have been forming an underground government by writing legislation into major Bills, Bills dealing with national security, or high profile Bills that seem to have emergency needs .——- Ordinarily, Earmarking tax funds allow the American people to make the decision how they want their money used by those in authority of our government, whose job it is to spend tax money. By Earmarking, the citizen directs his tax to a specific goal, not the general fund. ——- However, we have been serving under an underground government where legislators write legislation (Bills) for their favored and slide these bills under major, high profile legislation that is completely unrelated to the titles. —– Fairly recently, a tax Bill was passed (really George Bush’s “no” increase in tax extension) and in its passing 14,000 other unrelated bills were slipped in to serve the Legislator, his cohorts, or his agenda. These “earmarks” or laws providing benefits to special people have been providing reparations without calling it reparations among other things. The special benefits provided were more costly than the savings contained in the TAX BILL.
          We can react to bad government or participate to keep the government under control before they control us.

        • You people are a real piece of work.

          Do you really think you can get anything done by sitting in your living room typing on the Internet? If the shit hits the fan, do you really think that there WILL BE an Internet for you to use to organize any resistance… that there will be a Twitter for you to coordinate efforts with?

          Get your heads out of your asses, people. Get over your delusions, and actually DO something.

          You sit there in your living room or office, railing against the excesses of the current Banker-controlled government which has hijacked this great nation — yet you don’t have the balls to actually do anything to oppose it or to take our nation back from them. As long as you have your Monday Night Football, can post on Facebook & tweet on Twitter, wear camos to the store and occasionally go out target shooting or hunting with that weapon that the Government made you ask permission to buy & own — you are happy. You are living in your own little delusion, and all of the words you utter on sites like these are nothing but false bravado.

          When the Government comes, will you really oppose them? Or will you meekly submit, allow them to remove your firearms from your still living hands, and follow the rest of your neighbors into the FEMA detention camps? I think we both already know the answer to those questions…

          Grow a set of balls, people. You see the signs all around you — the time is fast approaching when you are going to have to make a hard and fast decision. Don’t wait for it to come down to the wire — act now.

          Get off the grid… get into a place where the Government DOES NOT KNOW YOU ARE THERE. Stock up on food, water, weapons and ammunition — you are going to need them. Yes, it may mean living in caves for a while — underground is the only place that you can hope to hide from infrared sensors. Devise a way to communicate with others you know — beyond a shadow of a doubt — that you can trust who are like-minded and actually committed to this course of action.

          Do it now. From what I am seeing, the present administration CANNOT wait until the next election; all of the pieces are in place now, and the time is perfect for them to implement their “Occupation” of the United States.

          Let me make myself perfectly clear: I am not advocating any sort of rebellion, armed action, or any sort of “pro-active” militant action to take our nation back at this time… it is too late for that since the vast majority of the American population HAS NOT WOKEN UP. It is better for you to prepare NOW, be ready, and have a way to communicate securely with others who are still among the population.

          When the shit hits the fan, people will wake up FAST; and it is our job to be ready for them when they do. People, the Liberation Army we need is there — all around you — but these people are still operating under the misguided theory that there is still time to reverse course through the present “rigged” system.

          When the shit hits the fan, these people will fast realize that they are out of time — some will escape. That will be the time for pro-active action — by whatever means necessary.

          But until that happens, we would be fighting a losing battle and would only expose ourselves prematurely; we need to be the hidden sword that this present government cannot find — until such time as we are truly needed to take this nation back from its occupiers by force of arms.

          • Ummm…..Isn’t that EXACTLY what you’re doing? YOU are on the internet, on YOUR ass telling other people to do something. Really? Get a clue! You do realize that it isn’t “this administration” that has put most of this crap in place right? I mean you do understand that this has been in motion since and was put in place BY Cheney right? Hence the KBR contracts? You do know that he came from Haliburton, (of which KBR is a subsidiary), and that is why they got the lions share of the Iraq contracts right? Good God! I agree that our government is letting us down, I agree that at some point they will suspend civil liberties completely and we need to be prepared but PLEASE, get your head out of your asses and understand that this isn’t about some radical Muslim President or a secret agenda by the left to take away our guns. It is “The Government” there is only one party and it’s color is GREEN! Mitch McChinless is a member, John Boner is a member but so is Scary Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. It doesn’t matter. None of them believe we deserve cicil rights, that is a privilege reserved for the wealthy. At some point people are going to stop taking sides and understand that the only sides are us and them.

        • Although caution is suggested, it sounds to me that it may only (and hopefully) be a preparation for a possible economic collapse similar to what was faced during the depression when thousands lost their homes and had no where to live except to, well, camp. If they prepare now, they can help citizens if and when this happens again.

          It is also possible that those body bags and meals have been used, considering how many they have to use on normal disasters such as hurricanes and tornadoes, but look how many they had to use on Katrina and yet they still weren’t prepared.

          I am not saying that you shouldn’t be prepared if the worst happens, but remember this is a worst case scenario based on strewn together facts. It is rare that one puts all the ducks in a row AND somehow strikes all the ducks with the same bullet.

          So, a word of caution, THINK before you ACT. Most likely AND hopefully, this is an over reaction. HOWEVER, don’t just brush this stuff off. Because even if the grain of reason I suggested was to happen, it’d still be a disaster that we as US Citizens, hell, as people of this planet, will have to face together.

          No Face


      2. Has anyone here, at this site, actually seen a facility and/or have first hand experience that this/these facilities are FEMA? (From the outside, that is)

        • Finding a site may be harder than just driving around looking for it to be marked FEMA Detention Camp in large letters on buildings. If they are setting up for this, I would think that empty prisons (few if any), BRAC’d military installations that have not been given back to the local gov or large accessible fields would be the way they’d go. The RFI had tents listed and that means big GP tents to house 20- 30 people per tent. We need eyes and ears on the inside and we don’t have them as yet.

          • @Jeff: Three Juvenile detention centers were closed near me here in Florida. We have been told that the Feds. have/are taking the places over for training. Training? They are perfect, if that is the correct way to state it, sites that can house numerous sheep. The strange thing is the one facility was build in 00/01, the Governer of Florida said it was to be closed due to budget cuts, really then why were they transfered to another (juveniles) facility here in Florida, its stinks really bad! For the region i live in, Avon Park is a bombing range used by the military. When i went through the Police Academy we used one of the runways for our defensive driving block. This base IS THE FEMA CAMP FOR THE REGION!

          • Here in Portland OR, we have a 6 year old detention facility that was originally supposed to have been built for jail overflow. It is fully stocked and ready to activate on as little as 24 hours notice. It is in a remote part of the area, in an otherwise industrial zone. While the City of Portland threatened to open it a few times, it has never had an inmate set foot in it yet. I expect lots of little “sleeper” facilities to pop up all over the place.

            I wouldn’t mind a little organization around here.

            • Sixpack, Lets organize then! I’m in the Portland OR region, Lets keep banding together, find ways to organize others so we can be prepaired or at least let others know of whats happening.


        • EA, I have not. But I do remember reading an article that was not the tin foil hat type, but was about a budgetary issue about 2 years ago. In the article they talked about how the U.S. House had introduced a bill to provide DHS with the resources to build something like 14 camps/facilities in the event of a “terrorist attack.” The article, like I said, was not discussing the nature of the camps, but was discussing the Congressional spar/debate over the fact that there were already 20 some odd (IIRC) camps that had been created through FEMA, and that could be used without the addition of more camps operated under DHS. This was in a major newspaper, but I don’t recall which one. I just remember reading it and thinking “It’s right there in plain view, even though they’re only talking about whether it’s a waste of money or not.” I believe one of the female Reps in Florida proposed the bill, but I don’t remember for sure.

          The fact is, that the camps to exist, though there is debate over their purpose, number, etc. THe fact is that something is coming, and it’s past time to be self reliant. Take care, and God bless.

        • seems they wouldnt be needing any “services contracted” if they werent for real

        • I am pretty much a hard headed old SOB. I can usually smell BS and prefer to see things for myself. I guess you could say in 50+ years I’ve seen more than a couple of con men and read some things on the net that turned out to be BS.

          I have heard many times that there were FEMA camps all over the country. One was supposed to be in Sheridan, OR. which ain’t all that far away. So one day here a couple of years ago I jumped in my rig and went to put my own eyeballs on it. There is a minimum security federal detention center there. It doesn’t appear to be able to house more than a few hundred folks unless they were gonna have people sleeping in the yard. Unlike California Correctional Center in Susanville, CA. (where I have been to visit a family member) the perimeter of the facility in Sheridan is just a chain link fence. Not even topped with concertina wire. No high voltage fence in between two fences like at Susanville. One 8 foot chain link fence seperates the “prison” from a public park / fishing hole. There is a gate where people could go from the facility to the park. I was laughing because I could’ve hooked my (four wheel drive, 3/4 ton diesel) rig to the fence and easily opened a 50 foot exit. I sure hope they don’t plan on holding anyone in there. Hell Michael Moore would be able to get over the fence just to get to McDonalds. (well, the fence might collapse but it wouldn’t stop him)

          I’m wondering if the camps, as mentioned in KBR’s RFI, are just to provide shelter and living facilities for active duty military personnel while they snag them there terrorists.

          If ANYONE actually, truly, really has pictures of a FEMA camp (not Linda Thompson’s train repair facility) that they have taken themselves I would LOVE to see them. I’m not saying the camps do or do not exist. I AM saying POA ain’t seen one.


          • I trust your nose.

          • of course there will be gates and fields and things that openly look “normal”. that is the way the japanese americans interrment camps looked in the usa and canada. those poor folks lost everything they had to something like this. they were rounded up, some families were split up, they were pput on trains and buses and then dumped in no mans land. they had to have passes to leave the encampment and there were military guards post on duty. if they were lucky they had enough food and medicine. if they were lucky they had outhouses. if they were lucky they had blankets to use for privacy when sleeping. and the german americans were treated the same way. we are talking alot worse that how we treated native americans and the reservations. interrment is nothing more that a politically correct way of saying concentration camp.

          • Theres a couple videos of Gov’t Box Cars that show ankle brackets on the floor. Check it out.

          • Hey Plain Ol’ American!
            Loved your comment…

            I work for DHS (active duty Coast Guard), and this FEMA-camp-mass-fear-monger thing is hilarious. FEMA is administrative in nature — not operational. I’m not sure exactly where this theory came from that FEMA is creating death camps throughout the country, but I think of it sort of like the Army Corps of Engineers developing hit squads and sniper teams. Yeah, right.

            There are many problems in the world to be concerned with that are very real and rapidly deteriorating, but FEMA is not one of them.

            The thing that concerns me the most, however, is that these theories are so popular. It displays a fundamental mistrust of government, which I can understand and think is probably healthy in terms of the responsibility of citizenry. But — this FEMA death camp thing is a distraction from reality. It is fun to talk about, however.

            Rarely does “the other side” come into a forum like this and shed light on reality. Should you be prepared for emergency and disaster? Yes, absolutely. Government can only do so much. Does big government protect its own interest? Yes — just like all major institutions. We forget, however, that WE are government, and that the “opposition” is US.

            FEMA death camp? Fiction. If you want to prepare — then prepare for reality which makes our country stronger as individuals weave into strong communities.

            Good luck and safety to all!

            • Patrick, thank you for taking the time to comment and share your insider perspective.

            • How fast do you swim the mile?

            • Patrick, First of all thank you for your service, Sir. And for being willing to share your knowledge and shed some light on this claim of FEMA concentration camps. I also know of “Emergency Ops” and have posted on here as well. I agree with everything you have said. After my husband read the posts on here, he was deeply disturbed to think that someone would shoot his @$$ over a welfare check. It became a very sad reality to him that he could be murdered over voluntarily trying to help someone. That SUCKS! You know as well as I do, that everything listed here is designed for a mobile “Incident Command Center”. These are not abnormal or unusual items..even HVAC. The simplest example I give is a Fire Command Center…Cities in themselves, to direct and provide for those that are on the lines. Some of his initial training was at a PNW Fire command. They do use all of the things listed and he was fed (catered food). The very fact the provisions are to provided for 301-2000 people speaks for itself….10,000+ responded to Katrina. I truly hope people on here will listen to a voice of reason…but I do have my doubts. Take care and God Bless you!

              PS. He still has his “GO” (very similar to a BO bag) bag packed and by the front door for when a call comes.

            • @Patrick: There are two forces on this earth, good and evil, with this said detention camps have been here in the United States for years, just ask the Japanese that were rounded up for quote, homeland security. We all are entitled to our opinions. The underlings are not subject to the knowledge of the overlords. I have been in Law Enforcement for 10 years, not any longer. How can the truth be denied, the United States has the largest prison population of any other country, when those who are in power commit crimes, theft, murder, extortion, kidnappings, sexual crimes AND YET NO PROSECUTION.To say that the Fema camps are fiction is a cruel joke at best. You might believe that for yourself, the truth is the evidence is there for anyone too see. Enough Disinformation. I never did like the taste of koolaid, i guess that is why one of the flavors was named GOOFY GRAPE!Come on man. I am sick and tired of hearing this crap, this government is so corrupt, so evil, so vile, I AINT BUYING IT ANY LONGER, there is only good and evil, no in between. Now back too our regularly scheduled programing, get it? Regularly scheduled PROGRAMING? If you repeat a lie long enough, the people will believe it, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can! OH NO YOU AINT!


            • Patrick – I appreaciate your comments coming from the inside of gov agency. Could you explain the purpose of the recruitment of Internment/Resettlement Specailist by the army? It is things like this that confirm beliefs in internment camps; such as the American Japanese were carted off to.
              These positions are based throughout the USA.

              Internment/Resettlement (I/R) Specialists in the Army are primarily responsible for day-to-day operations in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility. I/R Specialists provide rehabilitative, health, welfare, and security to U.S. military prisoners within a confinement or correctional facility; conduct inspections; prepare written reports; and coordinate activities of prisoners/internees and staff personnel.

              Some of your duties as an Internment/Resettlement Specialist may include:

              – Assist with the supervision and management of confinement and detention operations
              – Provide external security to confinement/corrections facilities or detention/internment facilities
              – Provide counseling and guidance to individual prisoners within a rehabilitative program
              – Prepare or review reports and records of prisoners/internees and programs

              I’m just sayin’ …

            • Everyone wants to propagate their perception of what is reality. Constant agreement to one side or another re-enforces the perception. Trust but verify.

            • I just checked, because your comment didn’t sound right. DHS does not control the Coast Guard. The Coast Guard was and still is military, and as such is under the DoD. They may cooperate with DHS, like when I had a warrantless search just to board a ferry boat. But they are not one in the same.

          • you usually don’t see a cop either until he’s behind you with the red lights flashing and pulling you over!

          • Here’s a place to start: Brand new facility, no prisoners yet.
            92,273 Square Feet
            36 Separation Cells
            12 Single Cells
            24 Double Cells (48 beds)
            10 Eight Bed Cells (80 beds)
            12 Twenty-Four Bed Cells (288 beds)
            Infrastructure will Support an Expansion up to 500 Additional Beds14 Bed Infirmary with 8 Beds
            having Negative Air Flow
            Dental facility and Pharmacy
            Laundry Facility on Site
            Fully Outfitted Kitchen
            Indoor and Outdoor Recreation yards
            7 Classrooms for GED, Substance Abuse Programming and Other Treatment Services.

            Sleep tight, Sleeple!

            • WOW: just right, High class facility, looks just right for Soros, rothchilds, our congress, advisors, lobbyists, any and all of the executive branch, all supreme court judges, and many judges from around the land. Managerial components at least from the FBI, CIA, SS, DHS etc. And who knows how many more will turn up when you start digging. We may need another facility before were done. Maybe several when you start ferreting out all the socialists and communists from every community in the country. I have some really good ideas I have been working on for several years now to aid in implementing this work.

          • The easiest place to hide is in plain sight. Very large facilities in remote areas with train , road and air or sea access. Use what you have learned in all those years of life.

            • Yep same supplies a human needs no matter when or where. Tell me sir, I am a paramedic and an incident commander and have spent a lot of time in emergency command centers and I have never seen one like these internment camps. Particularly since the contsatena wire on these camps face the inside to keep people in not out. Ive never seen that anywhere other than prisons, and concentration camps. Get real, wake up, become part of the solution, not more of the same old problem. Or maybe you should consider going with the scum we throw out of our country.

          • If you want to see some “real FEMA Camps” open your eyes. They are right under your noses! WalMart SuperCenters, Home Depots, Lowes. WAL-MARTs are EVERYWHERE and they are designed like FEMA camps. TPTB are preparing the sheeple to come willingly to a place to which they will be slaughtered…I have known this for years. Notice this… not so long ago the old Walmarts remodeled their “garden” center to match the new Walmarts. Anyone notice the 16ft high fence’s around the garden centers? Notice how they are separate from the rest of the store? Notice there is usually only one door into the regular part of Walmart?
            I was told by a life long friend who was in Army intelligence but now works at the NSA (please dont ask who or where) that the reason we have a Walmart on every corner is…
            1… the video camera that records you walking into each entrance has facial recognition and is linked to a private out sourced spy company that answers to the government.
            2… They are HUGE stores for a reason… the reason is to be able to hold lots of sheeple during processing for the F.E.M.A
            3…. The garden dept is an unloading area… the main store is a holding area.
            4…The parking lots are SIX TIMES BIGGER than necessary (same goes for Lowes and Home Depots) Razor wire fences can be put in place around these buildings in a matter of minutes!
            Anyone who doubts this possibility can go to any Walmart/Home Depot/Lowes and drive around the building… notice the garden centers resemblance to the outside of a prison… then start in the front and go around the building and count all the cameras… just on the OUTSIDE. The one closest to me has 48 cameras on the outside of the building. Why? Hmmmm we know the answer to that. Also I can point out that these super stores have generators that are WAY larger than needed to run just the store. I have first hand knowledge of this. Most of these generators are diesel powered. Most of these stores have their own fuel stations. I also know for a fact Walmart has been building HUGE stores in markets where they are oversized and losing money. Only in America will segments of society finance their own prison and detention area. Check out any Lowes homecenter or Home depot, simular layout. Ever been in a walmart during a bad thunderstorm???? they lock the doors and wont let you leave. They say its too dangerous for them to allow anyone to go. (Beta test for what’s coming!)

            • Wow. Never considered that, very very perceptive Lynn! I had a dream that I was being led into one of these stores. People were given free food and they all started dying. They’re going to lure people. They’re going to be sneaky about it, they don’t want anyone to catch on until they’ve killed off the numbers that threaten them!

        • I did not believe the whole FEMA camp thing until I visited a National Guard base last summer with one of the members. They had expanded the area within the fence three-fold and were building several dorms. I asked them if they were increasing the number of soldiers at that location and was informed these multiple story housing units for conferences.

        • Unsure. However, I did go to a place south of Salt Lake City that was supposedly a salvage yard. But how many salvage yards use a brick wall instead of a fence? This place looked too weird to be a salvage yard.

          • I doubt seriously that it was a fema camp. They would never put up a brick fence, when chain link is much cheaper , faster, and allows for much more visibility, essential for security. Must be a rich salvage yard. Did it have contsatena wire on top? If so was it facing in or out. FEMA camps have it facing in and a salvage yard will have it facing out.

        • EA,

          In 2005, following hurricane Rita, I was among about 60 Red Cross volunteers who trucked into the hardest hit area in Texas less than 24 hours after the storm passed, in order to begin supply distribution. We operated out of the Ford Arena in Beaumont, TX. With that in mind, let me review the KBR RFI laundry list of services:

          These included:
          · Catering Services – two facilities provided three meals a day for the workers. The “mess halls” consisted of trailers which opened to provide cafeteria serving stations and… get ready for it… tents so we could eat out of any rains and away from the hot sun.
          · Temporary Fencing and Barricades – setting up a loading yard, setting up gas and diesel facilities, separating medical facilities, etc.
          · Hand Washing Stations – I hope both the catering services and volunteers washed their hands before eating.
          · Laundry Services – Yep. After even three to four days this was definitely needed. Most of us travelled light and it was very nice to drop off laundry after breakfast on one day and pick it up the next day.
          · Medical Services – Yep, checked into a National Guard field hospital myself to have something checked out, others also needed assistance, as did many of the refugees who came through on their way from the East Texas area on their way to shelters in San Antionia.
          · Office Trailers / Administration Areas – Do we think these things run themselves?
          · Potable Water – Yes, really nice to have water in 104 degree heat in Texas.
          · Power Generation, Fuel Delivery / Supply and Electrical Distribution – With local power down, and no gas stations open, the trucks on the massive supply distribution lines had to be able to refuel somewhere, communications needed electrical power, as did the extraordinary number of FEMA laptops. And, we really did appreciate it when the air conditioners came on and we were able to sleep at night
          · Refuse Collection – well, of course
          · Shower and Toilet – I hope
          · Tentage, Flooring, Electrical & HVAC – see power above for HVAC. We had a sports arena, but in some cases tents would be required.
          · Waste Water Removal – Again, necessary for sanitation.

          Now, all of these services were needed immediately following Rita. Ford Arena operated for at least 4 weeks following Rita… my guess is that 6 weeks was more like it. It served one or two thousand people, ranging from volunteers to subcontractors – including power and light companies, EMTs and ambulances, FEMA personnel, victim case workers for the Red Cross, Disaster Assessors, food distribution personnel who downloaded 18 wheelers to small trucks and drove to local drop off sites.

          In other words, the KBR RFI calls for exactly what is needed to establish a temporary camp (and 30 days is temporary) as a disaster aid distribution center.

          • You are spot on with your post. I now fear for the safety of people willing to respond to a crisis…like you and my husband. People on here have said they will shoot them…really?

            • NSBF-
              Will your husband being going door to door confiscating guns from gun owners?
              If not, he will not have anything to worry about per se-
              If he comes to confiscate weapons as was done during Katrina, then he will have BIG problems.
              2nd Amendment is not negotiable and he will have big problems.

        • EA, go to prisonplanet and find Reconscoutsniper’s postings. Engage him with your question. He will give you an extensive list of a majority of the confirmed FEMA camps in all 50 states in the union with addresses and gps grid locations. Very interesting to see how many there actually are!

        • If you still need “evidence-confirmation” then it may well already be too late for you. Anyone stuck in the middle is DEAD. Seek Truth. and “Never Ever,Ever give up”.

        • There’s one located in Beech Grove Indiana. Go see for yourself. Used to be a train station, now, well, just go see for yourself if you dare.

        • I am just a danged ol gal but empty walmart’s are everywhere…the ones with barb wire are suspect ..wink…

      3. Heck, I didn’t know they were going to have catering in the FEMA camps….sounds pretty sweet, plus a free train ride! But a pretty exclusive club if they’re only letting in 2000 people.

        • the military call catering the stale hard to swallow box lunch. as a pow catering might be considered a small bowl of rice.

      4. You didn’t mention the word “camp” used in the memo…Alex Jones, I apologize for thinking you crazy….

      5. Arbeit Macht Frei

      6. Double whammy – Adjustment of the Madrid Fault along with super inflation for food and petroleum products. Millions of refugees along with food and gas shortages and power disruptions.

      7. Today Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper is in Washington, selling his soul to Obama. They are signing the a military pact, which makes all of North America the “Homeland” and allows the military freedom across the “war zone.” The border between the two countries is now a blurry line.

        Basically, with the opening of the FEMA camps and the National Defense Act passing the Senate, in my opinion, we are under Martial Law. It’s a quiet, insidious martial law, a trap that will be sprung once people have walked right into the middle of it.

        • Daisy: Has anyone told the Queen that the US has annexed Canada with the stroke of a pen?

          • Help……….send…….chocolate…….

            • That much chocolate will make you a target for zombies and DHS!

              I hear Nappy likes “turtles”.

            • Franks and beans!

            • Hey DK. I just thought who would be a good person to replace Nappy:

              Ann Barnhardt!

              Think about that fer a minute…..LMBO.

            • Like the dark kind and turtles are good along with the dark chocolate cocoa dusted roasted almonds – need to go to Sam’s for another case.

            • LH ~

              Those cocoa dusted almonds are incredible.

              I recently had sea salt truffles, which are dark chocolate truffles with a sprinkling of salt crystals and I thought I had died and gone to heaven. I can’t even explain how good they were!

            • POA: Great idea!

          • The Queen won’t mind, given that the US military is serving the interests of her corporate elite friends in London and Wall Street.

        • Posse Comitatis was repealed. It prohibited american military from taking action on US soil against citizens. That is why we have national guard. The US and Canada already have signed a law that allows their troops to come here or ours to go there “in case of national emergency or civil unrest.”
          This is all already in place. They are just fine tuneing it.

          • National Guard is just that, like the military, to protect the nation. Now if they are in other countries learning how to door to door search and seize, then what makes people think the training is to not be planned and implemented here, please tell me someone, I can’t understand!

            • The National Guard train to regular army standards and it’s funny you bring up room/house searching. The way the army conducts room/house clearing is designed based on OUR home layouts and designs, not mud houses or huts as in the third world. Coincidence, I think not. They have been indoctrinating people for quite a while, all service branches alike, to enter OUR homes and kill us in the near future. When it goes down, unless you physically see a soldier/marine, etc. Quit His/Her Post and come over to the side of Freedom Loving Americans, DO Not Trust them and be pre-emptively thinking abut how to take them out if they show aggression to you. In that said event, they are simply a drone of the system and will kill/harm at the systems will. I just hope enough people in uniform will remember their oath when the time comes, if not, it’s gonna’ be tough taking them on……especially with air power on their side.

          • Don’t cross the Rubicon……

        • Daisy, if they’re signing pacts (and I also read somewhere that they’re still considering the North American Union to unite Canada, America, & Mexico) then what was all that talk a couple of months ago about the border fence that was to go up on the Canadian border? Was it a waste of time or are they trying to throw us off tract of their intentions? Or maybe I just missed something somewhere along the way…I wish I had time to read all the news but admittedly I don’t so I feel like I’m always playing catch-up.

          • Sandy, I’m not sure, but my hypothesis is that it will be a checkpoint.

            One of the parts of the new agreement is the records of someone entering Canada will be made accessible to the US. They’ve upgraded crossing the US/Canada border from a driver’s license to a passport. If they do put up the “Great Wall of Canada” it will likely just be another way to control the whereabouts of the people.

        • Hey Daisy: Got it all pretty straight I would say. Yeah the border with Canada has never really existed, but now there is no doubt. Same with Mexico, they are definitely moving us into the U.S.S.A. and we will be using the Amero as money, native currency in what was Mexico, U.S.A., and Canada. Some say it will include all of North America to Panama. And I think England as well. I think that essentially England(& Canada) annexed the U.S. and Mexico on south. Well they are trying to. But they won’t get er done while I am alive. Assure you of that.

      8. “Temporary Fencing and Barricades”

        What purpose would those serve? To keep people in? Or to keep certain people out?

        Thank God the list didn’t include gas chambers or is that listed under “medical services”?

        The government knows whats coming. They aren’t telling us. They don’t want us to know because panic & riots would break out.

        Too bad some of us already figured it out.

        • According to Max Keiser, they have already bought about a dozen or so, giant industrial furnaces/ovens. IIRC he said that the stated intention is to be able to dispose of bodies in the event of a pandemic, requiring corpses to be incinerated to prevent the spread of disease. Take it for what you will.

          • Energy efficient clean natural gas?

            • soylent green

          • WTF??????????????????

      9. What if it is not war they predict, but an ELE event such as a meteor crash? That is the sort of thing the government would hide from the public, I watch enough movies to realize that.

      10. With all of this “prepping” being done by our government, wouldn’t this qualifying them as domestic terrorists according to their own definitions?

        • LOL

      11. What color of body bags?

        • red, white and blue.

          • Figures that you would answer me! I’ve seen thousands of boxed body bags stacked on crates.

      12. When this happens it will be open season on (insert who you have a beef with)

      13. I’m thinking preparation for am EMP-type event. The more citizens you can concentrate in specific areas, the more you can render aid to and keep alive with the lesser amount transportation and resources.

        Either that or they’re going to round-up all the consitiutionalists and gun-owning patriots for internment, interrogation and reconditioning.

        Regardless of motive…it’s all being don in secret. Can’t trust them.

      14. What about Alaska and that island out West for POTUS vacations? You know, the 57 states. Section #6?

        • The idiot in the white house probably already has Hawaii taken care of – can’t disrupt is vacation spot.

          • *his* not is

          • True, but I was wondering also about Alaska. Maybe tucked up there near Russia with no where to run they will all be on their own.

        • Must be a couple of demo tards here that thumped me.

      15. Sweet! I’m in District 5! Hunger Games baby!

        • It’s AMAZINGLY like the Hunger Games, isn’t it, Nitsuj? I was thinking the same thing when I saw that map. How much population was lost in that series? Wasn’t it 80%?

      16. I know for a fact, that, not only are military and police training at 29 palms marine base in california, but they also built a large scale city in the middle of the desert to practice urban and rural warfare, I have also been advised by many servicemen from all 4 branches of the military that all bases are activly buried all excess surplus weaponry, so that the civilian populus will not get a hold of the weapons. If nothing was going to happen, then why all the training and planning.

      17. Who will be the suckers enlisted to carry out the forced evictions and transportation of those civilians expected to fill those camps?
        After all, there are 100 million armed citizens, so the life expectancy of the mrons doing that task will be about….hmm….let’s see…2 days?.

      18. I have read about these detention centers for some time. It was to be expected. I think the OWS movement was the straw the broker the camels back. The government knows that major civil unrest in on the way. As our economy implodes, the people will riot. As Gerald Celente says, when people lose everything, they lose it.

        • Celente can be safely ignored. He didn’t walk his own talk and got hosed to the tune of six figures for it.


          • Hi Scott,

            Allow me to present a slightly defferent interpretation of what happened to Celente:

            He was the guy jumping up and down warning people about the coming financial implosion, on top of the villiany this “gov’t” is perpetrating, and yet, he got “suckered”.

            What does this mean: It means even when your aware, you can be looking right at the instrument of your destruction and NOT recognize it for what it really is until,… the trap gets sprung.

            Hhmmmm,…. doesn’t that sound EXACTLY like what ALL Americans are facing with the Enemy Force In Occupation (called the US Fed Gov’t) right now?

            Only in Celente’s case, his account was suppose to be backed stopped by the CME, who for the FIRST TIME, has disregarded its fudiciary duty and left all the investors high and dry.

            Point: We are ALL about to get the same treatment from the Enemy Gov’t (fed Gov’t) to the detriment of ALL Americans, except a handful of the needed Cops, Military, Judges, Lawyers, Politicians that sold us out, etc. and we too are looking at the instrument of our demise right in the face.

            Does this mean we will all be “suckers” too when when we’re in the FEMA camps?

            JD – US Marines – Abolish the Foreign and Domestic Enemy called the US Fed Gov’t.

            • Hey US Marine:

              I have to say that you have all this figured out and it seem s pretty accurate. i in a million years would never think like you. it good to have people out there who have those smarts like you do. you have been there and know how the military thinks. its good to know, i just hope that the guys and gals in the military see this as just what it is and love this place as much as i do and that “OUR” govt is just sell outs, to all our founding fathers were all about. i have been reading all about this “occupy.” it sure looks like this is what is going to happen sooner than later, it all has to be set up in the proper way and that people are kept stupid, sad fact—
              glad to know that you are out there!!!! M

            • Agreed!Celente was saying “they will never get my gold” Well they DID! It can happen to anyone. THEY WENT AFTER CELENTE! “the nail that sticks up the farthest, gets hit the hardest” old chinese guy. Check out silver Some great write ups on mf global, The numbers mach up perfectly on the silver leaving mf through the comex over to jp morgue.

        • Mike,

          I recently read that a total of over 5000 protestors at the OWS have been arrested. Just a thought…but maybe some of the OWS protestors will be to be the first to get to go to the camps. (Think of it as phase 1 or a test to work out any problems.)

          A little “reeducation” and they are released. If there is some required community service, they could “educate” others.

          KY Mom

      19. sounds like they are seeking subcontractors to fill the needs of these “camps” I guess that just told anyone who wasnt sure that the FEMA camps are for real that they “Are For Real!”

        maybe some of us should “provide” a service to them to further gain information on where they are and what they need..

        an Inside line if you will

        • Know your friends well, but know your enemy better

        • See my post above. They already told everyone they were real when they were asking for funding to build more of them under DHS, rather than those already built under FEMA. But, for even the most dense among us, there should no longer be a need to have to infer/discern/interpret anything. It’s coming, and fast.

        • I totaly agree and it was my first thought after reading the article.Neec to take a job at as many of these camps as possible.There should be enough people on this site that talk the talk.How about being planted in these camps as workers to relay info to the rest of us..Well,anyone stepping forward.

        • Hell yeah: Do you have the 20 million to prove bond so you can bid on the job. Or the reputation of a contractor that could provide these services in order to qualify to bid. Didn’t think so. The same thought rattled through my brain as soon as I heard it, but didn’t linger long.

          Maybe some of us could go to work for some contractor that gets the bid. If you could find that out. And I am sure that they will screen new employees pretty good. And I doubt that many of us would qualify, seeing as how most of us are on several watch lists. Getting to work for a contractor working a high security job. I don’t think so. I am a paramedic and a certified and experienced incident commander, and I very much doubt that I could go to work there. I am on so many watch lists. I am a Vietnam VET (terrorist) and a NRA certified firearms instructor, cert in rifle, pistol, shotgun, I am a CC and a CC instructor, and night tactical instructor. I am a member of a couple of militia groups, several blog sites much like this one and make comments like these. Yeah I bet they would hire me right now. More like they would hire me and as soon as we got to the camp they would lock me in one of the cells. There took care of that Rowdy MF.

        • the fact that the need subcontrators to carry out, means that we are the workers. So don’t work. It could be one man, thinking up, enough to work all humanity against itself.
          The force behind this needs human bodies to carry out its work. If they let us trick them, we cannot due it.

      20. Ok, now I’m scared.

        • Ain’t skeered.

      21. You know, I’ve been thinking about this. I’m thinking that these camps are a good idea. Seriously!

        Here’s why. These camps will “take care” of the unprepared, the sheeple, and likely those who could/would become violent towards folks who are self-reliant.

        The more people they can take care of in these camps, the better off we will be out in the boon docks on our retreats.

        Now, if they come a knockin’ asking me to join their party, I plan to decline.

        • Good point, Mr. B. (note the thumbs up!)

          The FEMA camps might just be a big ole Zombie party. Better if they keep them out of our hair.

          I just wouldn’t want to be forced to go to one.

          • Daisy, you said you don’t want to be forced to go to a FEMA camp. Here is the playbook.

            FEMA (standing at your front door): Ma’am, do you have a stockpile of food?
            Daisy: Why, yes, just like all the good folks at SHTFplan.
            FEMA: Well, then you’re a hoarder and we need to take you away so we can confiscate your hoard to feed all the hungry federal employees. Take her away, boys.

            Or it might go like this:

            FEMA: Ma’am, do you have a stockpile of food?
            Daisy: Oh, I’m not one of those hoarders. I’m just making do with what little scraps I can scrounge up.
            FEMA: Well, because you failed to implement a workable preparation plan, you are at risk of joining the zombie apocalypse, so for your own protection and the protection of your potential targets, we need to relocate you to the FEMA camp. Take her way, boys.

            • I agree – they will have an answer no matter what you say.

              Damned if you do and damned if you don’t!

            • Fine Mr. Law Enforcemant Man. Would you carry the lead from my Marlin.45-70, Enfield.308, SKS, Enfield .303, Browning 12 gauge,SVT 40, etc. Thank you so much.

        • I concur.

        • If they come a knockin, they will be….SHOT! The
          survivors will be shot again!

          • The rule of 308 would apply here….
            Montgomery County Texas

            • RT – what is the rule of 308?

            • RT1957,

              Check your rule book please. I think you really meant rule 338.

      22. Is Washington D.C. included?

      23. You mean all 57 States right?

        • Nam M: Hey GI, you be numbah 1 … FAC O1’s at Bien Hoa, salute to another old GI, keep watching your 6. No air support this time around.

          Charlie isn’t wearing a uniform or black PJ’s anymore. Seems like a three piece suit. The enemy is within the perimeter. You can bet Charlie is sniffing everyone’s ISP.

          My heart & wishes go out to all on the site. We are on the precipice. Enjoy this Christmas!

        • Yes, I mean no, but I didn’t go Ivy league or corpsman either.

      24. @Mac: Sorry for jumping the proverbial gun!

      25. do you guys think it will be natural disaster related to 2012, planet x, or something false flag? lets start betting pools. we gotta be able to find a little fun silver lining LOL.

      26. I hear the camps are for blog commenters who continue to display anti-social behavior, paranoia, ignorance and naivete. Alex Jones is being nominated as “camp leader” and you’ll get to hear his rants more often.

      27. To a foreigner this is both interesting and scary. Nothing like this is happening over here yet. Probably because we have made all the police redundant, sent all the military overseas and we don’t have a National Guard.

        Some of the posts suggest that in an EMP type situation having people in one place would aid both individuals and therefore national recovery.

        Others that more sinister reasons are behind the camps.

        If the former is correct, I can see the logic in the argument . Regarding the latter, as an outsider it seems to me that such large groups of people, especially people who have had the right to bear arms, and assuming they are reasonably well and able, would be very, very difficult to contain. Just how many people would they need to do that? I realise the “guards” would be armed but even so herding huge numbers of people that don’t want to be herded seems to me a recipe for disaster.

        Just my thoughts.

        Take care x

        • They will not try to do it all at one time. They will overwhelm section by section, and then come back and clean up the stragglers. They could not handle that many prisoners at a time. Jail a few, kill a few, then go get some more. Ron Paul will stop this crap. He is the only hope we have to postpone this calamity. Laugh at your on peril, and the peril of your children and grandchildren

      28. This makes me more nervous than I was before. What does a family of four do to protect themselves from this? I mean it, what do we do? Run, hide, build a fort, live in the woods? I would love some serious feedback about how to physically plan for such an event.

        • Pink Lady, I’m sorry to say, but if you don’t have a plan bye now, it’s probably too late. I have spent the last 4 years preping (food, amunition, survival gear, etc.) & still feel underprepared @ this late stage in the game. ‘Run, hide, build a fort, live in the woods’ are all applicable if you have food and water to sustain yourselves and weapons to defend your food and water! Good luck in the comming chaos!

        • I disagree. It’s NEVER too late until someone is coming through your door without turning the knob.

          Pink Lady:

          Assess what you have right this minute. Figure out how long your food would last if you could not go to the store at all. There are some spreadsheets for food storage on the web to help you get started.

          After you assess your food storage, start adding to it at every grocery trip, even if you can only spend an extra $10 – that’s how my 6 month supply was built – $10 at a time!

          Figure out how and if you are willing to defend your property. Is it even defendable or realistic to “bug in”? Acquire what you must for this.

          Figure out 1 or 2 alternate locations you could go to if you absolutely could not stay put. Map quest at least three different ways to those places, print those maps off and keep them in a safe place.

          Learn everything you can in the time you have left. There are a lot of good links on this website.

          Learn some more.

          Just realizing that things could go south in a hurry puts you far ahead of the masses. 🙂 You’ll be just fine taking things a step at a time.

          • Daisy, you’re awesome. Thank you for helping her.

        • @PinkLady: If you will let me know how to contact you, i can direct you too some good Christian people that can help?

        • Six G’s would be a good start.
          1.) Gold (or silver)
          2.) Gas (suitable form of energy when the grid goes)
          3.) Grub (six month supply of food and water)
          4.) Ground (arable land and seeds)
          5.) Guns (and plenty of ammo)
          6.) God (prayers and faith)

      29. They already have over 1800 fema camps that are fully staffed and ready to receive americans. Russia of themn chemical spraying trucks in missipi. 95 of them. They are ready to pull the trigger on us. It is all over but the fight. FEAR NOT FOR THE LORD IS WITH US. If they have you terrified of them then they have already won the fight. FEAR NOT. WHEN I LOOK AT MY WIFE–MY CHILDREN AND MY GRANDKIDS I GET FIRED UP AND READY TO DO BATTLE TO PROTECT THEM. I LOVE PEOPLE AND I WILL GLADLY GIVE MY LIFE TO PROTECT THEM. TRUE LOVE IS WHEN A MAN OR A WOMAN LAYS DOWN THEIR LIFE FOR THEIR FRIENDS.

        • Thx Willie!

      30. Well, I know for a fact they will have plenty of generators……I just can’t say why, not sure if
        it will cause any trouble for my loved ones.

      31. A “jobs program” you can believe in! As far as the furnaces go, I think most of us can produce plenty of “heat” when needed!

      32. These camps are for people who either don’t have weapons or don’t have the guts to use them.

      33. There are several groups of individuals that I can think of that would love to perform the duties required to roundup and eliminate the detainee population. One: prisoners from the jails all over America. Many of the prisoners are very dangerous and would love an opportunity to get even with someone for their problems in life. Two: Foreign military personnel that are not married, with no ties to any particular country, and love violence.

        • I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but 97 percent of the people in prison are useless drug offenders who only hope to get out and get high…or first-timers just wanting to see their families again. Only about 1 percent are actually dangerous to anybody but themselves. A prisoner would never want to lock anyone up—except the cop or the judge who put them there. Most prisoners are incarcerated because they don’t cow to the “rules”. Perhaps that is the same class we are all in. Think about that.

      34. When Mr. Pres. can allow beastiality in the military now, why not put all of his enemys in fema camps. This is seeming more and more like experimental exercises in how to control the masses. Hitler comes to mind.

        There is a force that we probably could not even imagine, that is in place right now. Evil is walking among us and no one is safe anymore. Our rights are being taken away, our dreams for our children are being destroyed.

        Why are people like George Soros buying up all the farm land in Africa? Running off the farmers or stealing the land for pennies on the dollar. They want control over everything, even the food that we will be allowed to eat.

        The ones that are inquiring, questioning, and planning, are the ones that they fear. They fear people like us. I really don’t know what the grand plan is but I know that it will not be for the good of humanity.

        The good news is that they are not God and they will not succeed in the long run. They can not make man into what they want him to be, because we were created to think, act, react and most importantly, answer to our God and ourselves, not them.

        Like Hitler, they believe what they are doing is for the betterment of the world. The audacity of these people is nothing short of crimes against humanity. This is pure and evil insanity.

        If I had said these things a year ago, I would have questioned my own sanity, but now the signs are everywhere and can not be ignored. This is no longer science fiction but our reality. God help us all.

      35. Section 1,2,3,4,5 free housing.

      36. I wonder how many members of the Armed Forces will comply with unlawful orders to perpetrate atrocities against their countrymen? I am a member a Reserve component and can tell all of you that I absolutely will not!!! As for anyone that tries to intern me or any members of my family into a “camp”‘, I’ll be six feet under before that happens!!!

        • My guess is members of the US military will be advised they are helping the “people” and thus not doing them any harm. The Jews of Germany were told they were being taken to a safe place and the soldiers were there to protect them.

        • How many members of the Armed Forces will follow orders?

          Well, according to studies done after WWII to try to understand how and why things went down the way they did, it will be somewhere between 60-70%. Milgram found 65% of those in his study were obedience to authority 100% of the time, others who have repeated his experiment have found as high as 70%.

          So what is 65% of the total number of folks in the Armed Forces?

      37. “…-The personnel on site to be covered by these services will depend on the size and scope of the recovery effort, but for estimating purposes the camp will range in size from 301 to 2,000 persons for up to 30 days in length.”

        Just depends on how fast they can clean out/reset the gas chambers and dispose of the untrainable dead.

      38. Just as we are preparing to save ourselves, the nwo is making plans to remove its opposition (us), to save itself.
        They have to get rid of the wolves to be able to control their sheeple. If the ptb are being this open in their plans then its getting close to checkmate.
        The American patriot is the one thing that they have underestimated, only 3% of the people fought for independence. There are more than that now, many just waiting for the chains of tyranny to tighten before they come out of their self imposed hibernation.

      39. The sad part is, we’re just sitting around like cattle.

        “WAKE UP PEOPLE!”
        Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( )
        And get off the couch.

      40. The National Defense Authorization Act DID NOT PASS. It FAILED 55-45. The bills own sponsor actually voted against it because it was forced go to a recorded vote rather than a “the ayes have it”.

      41. Find the FEMA Concentration Camp Near You!
        OR Air Force Bases per State and Country
        updated 3-21-08

        If you live anywhere near one of these camps and have seen it in person, let me know what you
        observe there. E-mail me at: [email protected]

        JayJay’s state:::Ashland – Federal prison camp in Eastern Kentucky near the Ohio River.

        Louisville – FEMA detention facility, located near restricted area US naval ordnance plant. Military airfield
        located at facility, which is on south side of city.

        Lexington – FEMA detention facility, National Guard base with adjacent airport facility.

        Manchester – Federal prison camp located inside Dan Boone National Forest.

        Ft. Knox – Detention center, possibly located near Salt River, in restricted area of base. Local patriots advise
        that black Special Forces & UN gray helicopters are occasionally seen in area. Land Between the Lakes –
        This area was declared a UN biosphere and is an ideal geographic location for detention facilities. Area is
        an isthmus extending out from Tennessee, between Lake Barkley on the east and Kentucky Lake on the west.
        Just scant miles from Fort Campbell in Tennessee.

        • Note that the date on this article is 12/02/11.
          That is a week ago!
          The final vote was 12/6/11!

      42. Will these camps have cable tv? I CAN’T MISS MAD MONEY OR THE ABC NIGHTLY NEWS! Man, do you think the laundry machines will be coin opperated? Without FREE laundry,,,,I’M NOT GOING!

      43. I heard it paseed 93-7. What are you referring to?


      44. It’s also possible that the FEMA camps will be more like concentration camps. That would explain why each one would hold no more than 2,000 people but FEMA as a whole still wants 140 million packets that include a body bag.

        • and how are they supposed to feed all these people that they’he holding, if things ever got so bad that these camps would be used, there would be no one left to do any work.

      45. >>> P R E P A R E Y O U R S E L V E S N O W ! ! ! <<<

        I pray I'm not fear mongering because that is NOT my intention. I only want people to wake up and prepare, just in case the stuff hits the fan.

        They will most likely start rounding people up very very soon, but personally, I think they will cause people to demand to get to go before real physical force is used.

        Any new false flag attack(s) or "natural" disaster(s) may/will cause:

        a) power outages and fuel shortages (Freeze you to death.)

        b) severe food and water shortages (Starve you to death.)

        c) severe confusion and much anger (Cause you to go insane and do crimes, including murder.)

        I think they see an advantage to this winter really just beginning and will use it!

        Cold and hungry people will be rounded up due to their own ignorance, greed, etc. They will think they are being rescued. There has been too many bus purchases etc. for the last ten years by cities, schools, and more. All without a real need for them. I have seen this over and over.

        There will be so much confusion as they gather people up that people won't even think or even have time to seek information as to how many people have already gone before them. And if some do seek info. then they will be lied to about everything.

        They WILL have to kill people as they bring more and more in. There is NOT enough of anything to keep and treat the huge number of people that will go voluntarily.

        During this they will also forcefully collect those they deem a threat to their power, regardless of anything.

        Nothing will be held back by them. They already know they must go forward FULL THROTTLES!

        I pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ that we would truly repent and seek Him and His will in and for our lives now and eternally.

        God bless you all, and good day.

        • Clearing out most of us “useless feeders” would be easy. There would be videos of the happy people leaving the “treatment facilities” and if normal food supplies are interrupted, there would be a stampede to get to the “facilities”.

      46. “-The personnel on site to be covered by these services will depend on the size and scope of the recovery effort, but for estimating purposes the camp will range in size from 301 to 2,000 persons for up to 30 days in length.”

        What happens after “30 days”? Is it like an animal shelter and they put you down?

        • Part of me thinks that these camps will be similar to Reception Centers that are used within the Department of Corrections. They will be temporary holding places until they determine where you will be shipped to next. Very disconcerting thought.

          • So why do you disagree? I work within the Department of Corrections. What I’m reading about these “camps” sounds very similar to our Reception Centers if you read the documents. I understand that, according to various reports, there are a number of very large FEMA camps spread throughout the U.S. that are able to hold more than 1,000,000 people. These seemingly temporary camps (based on the information that was sent out for bid back in November of this year, given to Alex Jones) are documented to be smaller camps, which would work perfectly (in my opinion) as what the Department of Corrections calls “Reception Centers.”

            Some people after processing in these smaller camps would be shipped to the larger FEMA camps, and others would possibly be shipped to termination camps. (Yes, sadly based on many reports I’ve read, these exist as well.) I think that if not now, these smaller camps will be used for this in the future. It makes logistical sense to me as someone who has been on the inside due to my job.

            This may be my second post, but I’m not a newbie when it comes to this subject matter. Just thought I would share what I’ve been thinking since this latest news first broke. May God protect you and your families. We are heading toward some challenging times.

            • Lastly, for anybody reading this thread in the weeks or months ahead… These camps that will possibly be presented to the masses as “temporary safe places of refuge” in the near future (some have even mentioned this in this thread) will appear rather innocuous to most of the American people. However, in the end, these camps will have the potential of becoming the very antithesis of places of safety. I’m just asking you to do your own research and be wise and informed. Don’t take my word for it. For the sake of your own life and the lives of your loved ones, do your own research. We have a window of time to prepare. Please take advantage of this time! May God protect us all….

      47. Holy Hanna, OK folks the S has definately HTF. It’s just that the F hasn’t been switched on yet. But that is all it will take to bury us all. The only exception will be those who have been ready for this for some time now. Time is short folks very Very short!

      48. Anybody got a vote count…who did what?
        I’m eyeing McConnell; he knows I told him I would go door to door campaigning against him with the crap he’s pulling.
        He voted for BAILOUT in 2007…ain’t gonna forget it.

      49. Long ago in Viet-nam, five Marine friends and I took a solemn vow never to be taken prisoner. We realized we were not the type to be treated like shit and not retaliate, which would have led to our deaths anyway. I have often thought of that vow as the evidence of an American Police State piles up. I am of the same mind set today as I was back then. No negotiation, No debate, No compromise, No surrender. Let them build their FEMA Camps. The REAL cost will come when they try to fill those camps. For those monitoring this board: you have my solemn word.

        • @GSM1: Well shortly there will almost always be another one available there anyway. But I would rather keep the one’s I have. 12 gauge Winchester defender, mini14, M14,.338 lapau and all the reloading gear and supplies one could want. Don’t need or want AK 47, SKS.

          I would like very much to get in communication with the group of marines below, and others. JD, nam marine, John D, Scott, Swift, Jericho, Daisy, Copout. I know this is nuts but somethin has to give. My email is llegg48 at gmail dot com. looking forward to speaking with any of you folks, off of an open forum.

          • dropped you a line

          • @Rowdy: I will be in contact!

      50. “I am going to ask for the yays and nays,” Paul said, surprising leaders.

        Both McCain and Levin, who indicated moments before that they would agree to passage of the measure by unanimous consent, voted against it in that roll-call vote.

        (from what I read, the indefinite detention clause –in case the boogeyman might have nefarious IODs, Ideas of Destruction)years later–is taken out.)

        • That is correct……….for now. Please see my link above for the story.

        • Can you cite this information?

          If so, what a couple pussies: They want to turn the US into a giant gulag, but don’t want anyone to know it was them?

      51. it would be a good thing for those interested in “camps” to read everything they can get their hands on regarding the camps during ww2…not just for pows but also for american citizens of asian and german descent.

      52. “Everyone deserves a fair shot”.

        Now that can (of peas) mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

      53. ANYBODY READ THE ARTICLE ON GEORGIA GUIDESTONES (Google)we have been warned>>>>>> also read article not long ago about mercenaries(foreign and domestic)already here in place watch for military and excess truck movements throughout the country>>>keep your eyes open>>> conversations overheard in some mid country truck stops where a multi lingual (friendly) trucker heard other drivers speaking in foreign language not knowing this person understood their talk about how it was a shame the americans don’t understand their plans to take over>>>>”some of the americans seem like such “nice people” but the MONEY IS GOOD>>>>>just FOOD FOR THOUGHT>>>>STAY AWAKE

      54. If everyone critical of how the government has been operating is put in a camp there would be more people in then out. Maybe it will just be people that have some reasonable idea of what is happing will be incarcerated. That would probably exceed a million considering there are 310 million people in the US. That could hardly be kept a secret or have those people believably demonized so as to not wake up those remaining. If more awoke then were arrested the process is counterproductive.

        Hitler singled out a specific group and those not within that group were relatively safe unless of course they aided them. The politically upset in this situation come from all racial, age, religion (or lack of), gender or national origins. I just can’t see how something this large could be effectively pulled off.

        • “Hitler singled out a specific group and those not within that group were relatively safe unless of course they aided them”

          Not true Kevin2.

          It is a fact that anyone who spoke against any behavior, policy, etc. of the regime in Germany often just dissappeared in the night, or on their way to work, or they were simply hauled away in front of others. Even those considered “pureblood arians” would be silenced one way or another. Some people dissappeared forever, some were returned to their families after interrogation.

          How can something this large be pulled off? Simple. Divide the country by states, and those larger states into zones. Put someone in charge and begin following the new official “policy”. Chilling, but doable.

      55. The problem is that Alex Jones has been responsible for so many outrageous phony claims in the past and Jesse Venutra seems to be a Alex Jones wannabe. These guys are wrong on everything. Just the fact that they are making this claim is proof to me that it is phoney.

        • It’s a stretch to say they are wrong on everything. Sources like this showed me the level of debt back in 2007 and I got out of the Stock Market then. Saved me a bundle.

        • Could you be more specific as to where they are wrong? Seems to me that what Alex has been saying is going to happen for the last fifteen years is shaping up to become reality. His stated goal of theirs is total dominance of the population. Is it your opinion that we are a more free society today? Personally as an adult non felon I reserve my right to pursue my own happiness without government dictate. I also believe that it would be more prudent for civil servants to run the country as opposed to ruin the country. And lastly, were the government not the biggest liar on the planet and were it not led by some of the most heinous people ever known, the average Joe would be somewhat more inclined to trust it. After all, how many lying, cheating, backstabbing, murdering types can one be expected to trust and hold near and dear to one’s heart?

          • Gee where do I start…UFO’s, extraterrestrial,Project Blue beam, 9/11 conspiracy theories…
            Damn the list is just too long. Can you truely not know this? How could you claim he has been right so many times and not know these things. If I had a dollar for every lie he has told I would be rich. Has he hit the mark a few times? Yeah, I suppose he has.

      56. I work for a company that is building chem/bio proof HVAC
        systems for the govt. these aren’t small there 50ft by
        25ft by 20 ft. I think they are for the underground
        shadow govt.

      57. Almost brings a tear to my eye, Good ol’ Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin would be so proud!! Screw this Government.

      58. All they have to do is paint a BIG “Walmart Super Center” on the outside and 150 mil will go runnin in.

        • will be like a roach motel, they check in but don’t check out

          • Ummmmm……I think that was Hotel California.

        • Motel 6????????

          “They’ll leave the light on for ya.”


      60. TV’s 20 bucks, xbox games 5.99 black Friday in the fema camps
        And the suckers arrive willingly!

      61. I don’t like crowds that smell.

      62. wow serious stuff. Ok what I know for sure there is a camp across from Walmarts in Aurora, Ind. I drove through it about 6 months ago. looks abandon has the watch towers flat land. just sat there and stared at it. My mind racing remembering things read and people told me about other places like somewhere i Kokomo, indiana.. Also across the street where walmarts is on hill they are doing heavy building in the side of a mountain behind Walmarts… lots of food places around there also.. Kept meeting a senior Vet telling me stories about him burying bodies in Alosian (spelling) islands in war and how he knows Hillary. How he is one of the highest paid Vets..and many other stories about him living with a Russian..He had one of the highest ranks G3 or G5. Im not military s not sure.. Folks Im not ready trying to be but limited resources..I want to help family but not sure they all are awake also. Praying

      63. Well, there’s an elephant in the room.

        I don’t think I am the only tin-foil hat clad individual that found it very ……ummm…..INTERESTING….that the site went down last night and these comments were lost for quite some time.

        I’d be interested to know if any other such sites/blogs had similar issues.

        I’m finding it difficult to laugh this off as coincidence.

        As much is it scares me, it ticks me off more. If I wanted to live somewhere that I wasn’t allowed an opinion, I’d still be married. 😉

        Let’s focus our efforts on making our voices heard. Instead of us just preaching to the choir here, branch out. Post comments on mainstream media sites. Post statuses on Facebook. These sound like small things until you realize that these things grow exponentially. One voice reaches 100 others. If 10 of those others believe you and spread the word……

        If you see something, say something. Let’s make that bite someone in the ass.

        • @Daisy: It is just one of my personal deals, but if i were you! I would stay far,far away from Facebook, twitter and the like. I wont go into detail, it would take too long! Merry Christmas young lady!

          • I’m doing just the opposite, Copout, with no disrespect intended.

            I’m creating a page and linking it to a blog. Then, on said page I’m going to “share” links to this and other alternative news sites and articles. I’m going to update my “status” daily by commenting on something that is going on that people should be aware of. The entire plan is to open dialogue with those who might not otherwise hear the information.

            It’s free and not very time consuming. This is MY step one, and I’m making a commitment by doing this.

            Merry Christmas to you too, Copout. I hope Santa brings you something really good!

            • @Daisy: Santa will bring me chocolate?

            • It’s been my experience, Copout, that Santa brings chocolate to ALL of the good boys and girls. And sometimes even to the naughty ones.:)

          • Years ago I was working in a casino in CA. I worked quite a bit with this guy that was an amazingly smart person. He was a programmer and a whiz banger in computer maintenance, never saw him stumped on a problem. One day we were talking about such things as this and he told me that in the future one should watch out for sites that would lure you in as sites that address the way you think. Many of these sites will be set up by the government just to collect data on people. Several of the blog sites I have been visiting for several years, I am sure are exactly that. It takes a considerable time at a site to get the understanding of what is going on there.

        • Daisy, I noticed that last night too–it was very weird. Also, was it Monday or Tuesday where I couldn’t access the site at all, during the day. Afer noticing that N.O. hadn’t posted for a while, it kind of freaked me out. I also noticed that someone else had posted under my name in response to Carolie the other day…which was stupid of me to pick such an obvious name, but still, it was just weird, if they had been reading the site at all, as they claimed. I am Mama Bear, dammit! Maybe there is another site that we should post on regularly in case this is down…something more innocuous like Rural Revolution or some such.

          It also made me wonder, why the heck am I checking in every day here? There are thousands of websites with comments sections that I completely ignore. Just a very interesting community I guess. Ya bunch of freaks! 🙂

          • Hi, Mama B. Speaking of freaks 😉 NO still isn’t around and I haven’t heard from him offsite either. Strange – I figured he’d be all over this FEMA camp stuff.

            Well, I say screw ’em all. I’ve been posting here long enough that they are tracking me anyway, so I might as well say what’s on my mind.

            If anyone wants to reach me off site, try daisyluther at rocketmail dot com. Just put your username here in the subject line.

            I’m quite serious about the social media angle. Keep in mind that Arab Spring protests started on Facebook.

            • Hey Daisy: Yes but that was there and then. Do you think that our adversaries were not watching and paying attention to that fact. Why do you think they got busy and set up hardware and implementation procedures to let them shut down ALL communications in a flicker. I will try to contact you as this is a subject I want to talk to you and others about.

            • Daisy, I don’t really want to post on here but I am going to contact you via email. I’ve been posting on my facebook but it is making me feel uneasy… 🙁

        • ” If I wanted to live somewhere that I wasn’t allowed an opinion, I’d still be married.”

          That is the reason POA lives alone.

      64. Count this former marine in on the fight to regain our beloved constitution. Gung ho Gung ho Gung ho…Just tell me where to report

      65. Watson: We seem to be having a bit of a problem with the comment section. This is a real conundrum.

        Holmes: Elementary, my dear Watson. Just smack the computer with this hammer. (crash) There, that’s fixed it. And…from the looks of all these ones and zeroes lying on the floor, I’d say it was a binary system. Eegads! This has the scent of Moriarty all over it! And, look! A tiny question mark among the zeroes…hmmmm….He must be in cahoots with the Riddler! We haven’t a moment to lose. Watson! To the Batmobile!

        Watsom: Sorry old boy, but you seem to be slipping into an alternate universe. Or at least the wrong television script.

        Holmes: No time for that now! I’m on a roll! Damn the torpedoes, Full speed ahead! Danger Will Robinson. Beam me up, Scotty! It’s the story, of a man named Brady…

        • Three hour tour.

      66. I don’t trust FEMA at all. I lived through Hurricane IKE, I did not see any water, no MREs, didn’t see any FEMA aid in our area which is on S/E side of Houston. The only aid we saw was 100 miles inland in a little dinky town, not even a stop light, the local volunteer fire department was handing our cases of MREs and water if you needed them. Hoorah for small towns….also happens to be our bugout spot.

        Here is another topic kind of related to this article and what some have blogged in answer:
        I had to drive from Houston to Beaumont to pick up Mom-inlaw, take her back to Houston to the Airbase to get her military dependent ID renewed. On the way back home after I took her back to Beaumont, on I-10 interstate, I saw an 18 wheeler in a truckstop, the kind that hauls cars, it had black and whites on it, it is what caught my eye, like brand new Police cars! The black and white pattern was half and half with the division tween colors running diagonal….here is the weird part…in English, on the side it said CIVIL POLICE…blew me away…thought THAT WAS ODD…..talked to Mac about it as well as did some of my own research and could find NOTHING on the internet concerning this, neither could Mac….unfortunetaly I was driving at or near the speed limit, couldn’t pull off and therefor did not get a picture, so Mac couldn’t post on this as neither he nor I had the proof of what I’d seen….

        Now I’m wondering more about that…especially with Obooma previously stating he wanted a civilian military force armed as well as our armed forces…we never did hear more on that…also where has all the money gone that is missing in what the feds gave away? You know you can buy and fund much armament with billions of dollars…just sayin…

        Terry W. Reed

        I don’t mind them knowing who I am and what I believe as I know we are right and they are wrong, and let them come after me and my family…we are normal tax paying citizens, fairly squeaky clean, and if they come after me, I’ll do my best to resist anything…

        had a friend say “Get on that Bad Motor Scooter and ride” in speaking about threats from elsewhere, in other words, come on with your bad self…I’m ready, you b@$^@#d$….

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      68. folks-

        i’ve seen FEMA in action, having sat through numerous hurricanes. in fact, the last time i saw them in action was after hurricane wilma. let me tell you about it.

        first, my experience in witnessing them in action is little, but i have seen them. after wilma, which brought an 8 foot storm surge (higher in some places) through the florida keys, many people here lost their homes or apartments (and cars) due to the flooding, so FEMA brought in FEMA trailers, which were temporary housing (in the form of smaller trailers that you would see in any trailer park). turns out those trailers were making people sick due to the chemicals used in the production of the trailers. most of those people would have been just as well-off living in their mold/mildew-invaded homes/apartments, and they certainly would have been much better off in a simple tent.

        FEMA also brough their version of MREs, which weren’t the real military MREs (which i know all about; i served four years in the US Army, 1985-89), but cheap knock-offs. how cheap?, you ask. a REAL MRE contained an entree, a side, sometimes a piece of bread, dessert, condiments package, etc. those nasty FEMA packages had bags of chips (doritos, etc), cans of beef-a-roni (*gag*)… this isn’t food, it’s crap.

        while not entirely necessary, the FEMA MREs were distributed (i was given one or two by a friend and i was disgusted with the un-food that was in the packages) anyway. people were herded to the places to pick them up. it was kind of surreal… like people were simply being ‘primed’… conditioned…

        while i agree with much of what US MARINES says, i don’t think i would look at my prepping plans (prepping for getting people together to resist this BS) ij the light of whether or not it’s “legal”. if the government has been hijacked, then we are in distress and all bets are off. who cares what the government says anymore?? “legal”?? for now, be as ‘legal’ as you feel you must be, for the sake of keeping a low profile and arming & informing other citizens… but who’s going to enforce ‘legality’? a rogue, foreign ‘government’ and/or their paid mercenaries? these are the very people we’re going to have to protect ourselves against. if they say something you’re doing is ‘illegal’, are you going to obey?

        instead, i believe US MARINES– and every other right-thinking human– is going to triage the situation and simply do what is required at that moment and the legalities of it matter not.

        i’m not going to wish anyone ‘good luck’ as luck has very little to do with it. our futures are in our own hands now. the system is broken (intentionally) and it will not fix (thankfully). embrace the changes and embrace life.

        TPTB are not only going to fail spectacularly, but they’re going to go away altogether. their system cannot hold, and it won’t. take some comfort in that.

        STAND YOUR GROUND, but be sensible about it.

        we’re all going to be just fine in the end.


        • Ron I think you are right in ways and wrong in ways. Yes in the end I think we will win out. Will we ALL be just FINE. No we will not. Many Many of us will die in order to correct this mess. So be it. I swore that oath and I have lived by it before I took it and ever since, I will live by it till the day I die.

          Hope that some of you email me, we need to talk. llegg48 and that would be at gmail and a dot com.

          • Be careful! Remember the three old guys (my age) in Georgia who tlaked to the wrong people. They’re in jail now. This was about 5 or 6 weeks ago. Just sayin….

      69. Mac

        Are you planning a follow-up of this information?

        Someone ,somewhere, somehow must know some one who can get on the inside of this..a contractor perhaps?

        Meanwhile..not a better time to continue stockpiling hollow-points and extra clips..

        Rather go down standing than die on my knees..

        • We’ll make information available as it makes its way to us.

        • There seem to be a lot of us with that same attitude. I just hope when it comes down, even half of those that say they are ready really are. Oh yes those are magazines not clips. Sorry, touchy point with firearms instructors.

      70. I’m FINE now and gave you a bump up.

      71. I did some research and came up with a list of detention centers and their locations. I was near one of these in Florida just a few days back.

      72. Taking a different look at it, what if these camps aren’t for us? Maybe we’re going to be housing refugees from a country that’s going to be hit soon. I know it sounds dumb but I grew up in Miami when all the refugees from Cuba were coming over and living in tent cities.
        Maybe if Iran hits Israel then we may be bringing them over here, because we have more tax dollars than we know what to do with.
        Hey, it’s just a thought.

        • Japan is going to have to evacuate soon. Good point.

        • @Sandy: Hello, Hialeah was up bringing, i really had a problem with the cubans there. I met my wife of 30 years now, and found the people were very family orientated. Her mom who has since passed would cook up some cuban food that went straight to my heart, Merry Christmas to you and family!

          • Copout, hi again! I was born in Hialeah Hospital. So you know where I’m coming from literally! I know my comment was far-fetched but I always try to find another angle to every story. We witnessed the refugees first hand in Miami, but sadly I’m afraid that if there are detention camps in every state then they’re meant for us, or a select portion of us. If you’ve been married 30 years then you have a few on me but I was in school when the boat loads came over. Growing up all of my friends were Latin and yes, they are very family oriented. I do miss the Cuban food, hoping for a Pollo Tropical to open up here in the Mountains. BTW, we were right off of 49th & Red Road. Couldn’t stay, too many people there now.

            • @Sandy: Oh my God, i myself was born at Hialeah hospital, attended north twin lakes elementary, palm springs jr. and got kicked out of Hialeah Miami Lakes Sr, Let me see if you remember the Lums hotdog joint on 49th, all the highschool football players would meet to fight each other after games. Anyway sure is a small world, i hope Mac gets the Forum up and running, so we can share more stories of our towns we grew up in, God Bless you and Family during this awesome season, and remember we can cause he is AWESOME! Merry Christmas

      73. Okay, gonna say it and then I am done. No one will agree with me and that is just fine. If you know anything about Emergency Ops then you will know that this list and the fact that they need to be set up in 72 hours is for “incident command centers”. Everything listed here is absolutely everything that is used/needed in one of these “camps”…from catering, to tents, to showers, and portable offices. There were 10,000 responders for Katrina….emergencies must have a command center. Has anyone ever seen a fire camp…been in one and walk through it? They are cities in themselves. FEMA got their @$$ handed to them with Katrina…the sheeples expected to be delivered from the storm. They didn’t and couldn’t move fast enough. Believe me, they appreciate those of us that are prepared, heed warnings and can take care of our own. It is the thousands of others that think the government should run to the rescue that FEMA is designed for. Ask me how I know, married to an emergency reponder, Type 1- 3 training, and NO not employed by FEMA! But he has been through all the training and has to coordinate with them. Anyone can take their training…it is online and free. Trust me when I say they are not that organized and couldn’t pull off what you are suggesting. They have nothing and bring in nothing, but people to coordinate the efforts. Hence the contracts to bring in the equipment and step up operation. A well prepared community doesn’t have to call on FEMA, they can handle the situation locally. FEMA is not very good at what they do…a lot of criticism. I believe this is a step to improve their response. With that said, you are all doing the right thing….be prepared for any emergency…natural disaster or man-made. Take care all and enjoy the Christmas season. ~D

        ps. I am now “prepared” for you to rip apart what I have said and that is fine. Common sense and a little knowledge of how it all works is my back-up. One other thing, while my husband does work in emergency management his service regarding incident command is strictly volunteer. He told me not to bother with a post as it would fall on deaf ears but I don’t listen real well when it comes to the safety of my loved ones. That being said, if you plan to shoot his @ss over a welfare check please post a sign on your door saying, “we are fine and need no assistance”, he will gladly move on. My daughter and I would like him to come home to us and preferably not in a one of the body bags that you fear. He doesn’t volunteer for that .

        • Thanks for the post–it does NOT fall on deaf ears. I come from a family with a lot of cops, firefighters and ex-military, and I too am distressed by some of the hatred and threats that have been directed toward people who are brave, upright, honest, hardworking, thoughtful public servants.

          • I dont think most people are against Public servants at all. However it is the ever increasing seizure of our rights and giving them to the public servants in the name of Safety that has people upset at them.
            When I was growing up you could tell LEO off and he would just ignore you because it was your right. Today it will usually end with you in a hospital and with numerous charges against you while you try to defend yourself against an attack form the guy who is supposed to protect you.
            Public servents are supposed to be just that. Public servants. But today the roles seem to be reversing and the public exists to serve them. Higher and higher taxes to pay for good salaries and fabulous retirement programs all the while our ability to make money is being reduced daily by the same people who we are supporting.

        • Well NSBF While I agree with you and another person right before you that these are possibilities. However I choose not to stick my head in the sand and pretend that what I see happening in my country day after day for over 40 years now. Yes I have been through a fire camp and many other emergency situations. I am a paramedic, incident commander, worked as a ground pounder for several years and a fireman for several more. You know the funny part is in all the emergency command centers I have been in I have never seen one where they have fences around the site, and particularly with concertina wire around the top pointed in. Nor were body bags supplied with each persons supplies. It would be wonderful if we are all wrong. But there are just overwhelming indicators everywhere that we are absolutely correct. Do you really expect them to just come right out and tell everyone what they are doing? Don’t worry that will happen soon enough. I have known that this was coming ever since I came home from Vietnam. I think that situations like that jerk your eyes open and let you see the world in a different light. I came home and could sense immediately that I had been over there fighting the communists when I should have been here at home fighting them. I wish you good luck, and hope you pull your head out of the sand in time to save your 6 and those of your families.

        • @NSBF: Hello, i have also been through the Incident command training, and have been a first responder. The military bases are the locations of the majority of the so-called camps. I know or at least hope those that make comments directed at shooting someone, is in reference to Military personel, foreign or domestic, coming to search their homes, harm their family members. The endgame is in all of (their) writings, Henry Kissinger stated that our military are nothing more than pawns. The second ammendment was not so we could go hunting in the woods, it was written so we could protect our homes, self, and more importantly TYRANICAL GOVERNMENT. This is where we are at/heading in this country. Have a fantastic Christmas with family and friends!

      74. As in a previous post, this site offers some video and photographs. I have read most of the sites material and it looks to be accurate.

      75. Google Earth, Green Cove Springs, Fl. and zoom in on the air field from the old Navy Base. These run ways were full of white FEMA vans. I don’t know if Google Earth has been altered but when you zoom in you can see where every van was parked.

        Where did they all go? Were all these vans bought as an additional bailout for GM?

        • Cecil has more housing.

          • Their not interested in housing, go down there and look at their building. It looks more like prison or processing.

      76. “As many of our readers know, the U.S. Senate recently passed the National Defense Authorization Act, which, it has been argued, authorizes the establishment of domestic war zones and the subsequent detention of those who are suspected of engaging in terrorist-related activity – including, arguably, U.S. citizens.”

        The National Defense Authorization Act specifically prohibits detention of US citizens and legal aliens! When you use terms “it has been argued” and “arguably” it defused the rest of your article and makes you sound like a leftist liberal stretching to make a point! There’s 30 million gun owners out here spread across every state, except maybe New Jersey and Maryland, so citizen detention camps just aren’t going to happen!

      77. Everyone involved in putting out the lies in this story, and this website, should be arrested for sedition.

      78. One more thing and then I am done…I promise! If you really want insider information then become an insider. It is easy to do if you have the commitment! All around the country they are begging for people to step up and commit to running “incident command” and “emergency response”. No one wants to do it…it is a lot work, long days, little sleep, and a lot responsibility that you aren’t paid for. It does require training and yes, you may even have to go to a FEMA training facility. Don’t worry they won’t take control of your minds and plant a chip or anything, you don’t even get to have a weapon. You could even start with being a member of a local CERT team…it may do you good because you will learn about your community and believe me you will learn all about being prepared. My prayers~D

      79. I already have reservations at my local FEMA camp. I avoided the rush and got one of the best cots near the latrine!

      80. What stunned me was that a welding contractor was hired to weld in Shackles in box cars….The contractor couldn’t believe it! Many of the FEMA camps have access to railroads..You naysayers explain that one?

        Thomas Jefferson, “From time to time the tree of LIBERTY needs to be refreshed with the blood of PATRIOTS and tyrants”.

        Patriots be prepared to service the the railroad tracks….

      81. Kudos to Plain Ol’ American and Patrick. You both called it. I worked for DHS, FEMA and the majority of work above-ground is administrative and disaster-assistance related work. FEMA Camps? Detention centers? Come on folks! FEMA doesn’t even have their own evacuation plan for their own facilities.

        Look at the short linked pdf file — it’s not even an official RFP. Even if it were, according to the requirements, the “camps” must have capacity for upwards of 2,000 people. That’s not a big “camp”.

        Let’s do the math: The US has more than 300,000,000 people here. Know how many “camps” would be required if each planned “camp” could hold a max of 2,000 people? Now if these “camps” were hypothetical extermination centers, we’ve got a different beast to look at. But even with extermination, how long would it take to exterminate a large segment of American society in this outdated mode? Yeah.

        If some evil method of genocide were to be employed, it makes much more sense to hype some mutated virus, then develop a “vaccine” for prevention, mandate the vaccine must be administered to all, then wait for the death toll to rise. Or just dump some nasty chemical in a few urban centers.

        Encampments are so yesterday…..

        • Best comment of the day award…”FEMA doesn’t even have their own evacuation plan for their own facilities.” People give this agency entirely to much credit.

        • Good logic, Zoltanne…unless these camps are gonna hold the ….uh, scientists, biologists, chemical engineers, nurses, special doctors….
          While the other peons are being chemically deprived of air which could be delivered many ways to prevent camps being contaminated.

        • Of course they don’t even have their own plans to save lives, they are not interested in saving our lives they are set to take them. But there is no use talking to someone that is closed minded, but then I guess that falls right into the old survival of the fittest scenario. That’s fine, in the next evolution of our country we do not need the genetics of people that are so stupid and naive that they can not see the facts in front of their faces. Well see how yesterday they are when your looking out through the wire. I don’t think you understand that we are here trying to tell you people what is happening to try to save your stupid ass. Oh well. Goodbye.

        • The virus allows for plausible deniability too allowing more time to boil the frog.

        • good point

      82. Interesting. With some minor adjustments of some state memberships, the map is very close to the likely cultural/regional “new republics” that are likely to form after a collapse/dissolving of the current federal gov’t.

        • Yes, I thought that too. It’s not unlike that map, that that Russian professor put forward last year when he announced to the world he could see the United States splitting up in 2010 because of a collapse/civil war or civil unrest. Interesting. I guess he was hired to make that prediction ….. so the idea could start floating around in people’s heads. I guess if you put an idea in people’s head often and for long enough, it eventually becomes reality. Or at the very least, it becomes an idea of possibility, that when it does happen, it’s accepted as something that was enevitable?

          Divide and conquer. It you can’t control the “whole” of something, then divide it up and control all the pieces singularly.

      83. This is what happens when big buisness and your government owns you.

        Free people should live or act like slaves

        Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( )

        Wake up America, we don’t have to live this…

      84. Glad I am in number 3….it is huge and if you were to be able to escape, getting “hidden and lost” wouldn’t be too hard, I would think.

        Then again, how does a rat get warm in the winter?….he sneaks in your house right under your nose and if he is able to avoid traps and poison….he can stay warm and fed and happy for a long time….and drive you royally pissed off mad!! 🙂

      85. I am a former dogface and a current #OWS protester and a screaming pinko liberal…. And this specifically scares the crap out of me. The ONE bright light in this is that it shows how afraid of us TPTB really are. We need to capitalize on that fear.

        Cold dead fingers. I plan on goin’ down swingin.

      86. Not too many people know this incident in South Korea just before Korean War;

        people who had leftist sympathies were encouraged to join something called “League of Reformed Citizens”, and were fully accepted as full citizens after that. In return all of their addresses, friends, etc, were recorded.

        Well, lo and behold, when the Korean War broke on 1950, all of them whose name was in there were rounded up and promptly killed.

        The South Korean government, in the midst of a massive rout against North Korea and without the benefits of computers, telephone and any other modern communication, still managed to kill more than 100,000 people who ‘could side with the enemy’.

        People whose name is now on the Homeland Security databases will probably share the same fate with those hapless koreans.

        • I met an interesting person that defected from Armenia in the early 1980s. He was a border guard that waited for the right opportunity, dropped his AK47 and walked across the border. He said, “Never let the government know what you are thinking”, while pointing to his head. He told me he always agreed with 100% of everything they said and knew better then to question.

          Americans in general and certainly us in specific have a difficult time keeping our mouth shut. It’s a product of having no fear of speaking out.

          • “Americans in general and certainly us in specific have a difficult time keeping our mouth shut. It’s a product of having no fear of speaking out.”

            Makes those Founding Fathers even more special. Imagine how things would have evolved if they were silent and too afraid to stand strong for our Republic.

            • Actually too few presently know and therefore speak. Freedom had been slowly eroded with little reply from the masses. Now that it’s disappearance is more rapid and obvious more people are speaking out but it is still an insufficient number. I use the election process as a gauge of discontent. When 85% of the incumbents are returned after doing such a poor job over the last several decades I’ll stand by the” too few” in my first sentence. Corruption is so woven through the fabric of government that it is virtually institutionalized. Congressmen and Senators make little excuse and will offer no change to their legalized insider trading. A recent former US Senator Jon Corzine jumped on the opportunity to start a new investment firm which subsequently lost 1.2 billion (with a B) of investors money and states with a straight face under oath, “I don’t know where it went”. We have allowed words such as war to be redefined thus circumventing the Constitution and many decades ago gold to be confiscated and replaced with paper.

              “Imagine how things would have evolved if they were silent and too afraid to stand strong for our Republic.”

              There is no need to imagine. It’s right before our eyes.

        • I hate to say it Comenius, But that list probably already includes every one of us here on this thread.

      87. So what’s the problem? I always liked camp when I was a kid. I mean, catering and A/C? That’s better than I have it now, and I could use a vacation.

      88. Wouldn’t it all be a whole lot easier for us all if instead of all of this hard work which will go to waste we all just went ahead and got all in for a marathon of marathons of re-runs of ‘Hogans Heroes’?

        Oh, you mean these people are serious? They really think they’ are the ‘they’ and they can do this?

        I don’t doubt it, Sept 12 before last Sept 12 I met with one of ‘them’, “I’m on the committee that regulates what can be in the air you breath!” he said over tea…

        Turns out 1) He is on that committee 2) He is CRAZY! Sociopathologically SICK!

        Who drives a red mercedes? ROFLMAO What an ego-maniac!

        The Cass Sunsteins of this world are dangerous!

      89. just thinking…maybe “detention” centers are for the safety of the 1%,not the99%

        • No chance, if you truly want to protect those inside, you would use T-Walls, not chain link fences. Just like we do in Afghanistan. You cannot shoot, what you cannot see.

      90. I was catching up on every comment last night and just ready to join in when the comment section went down. I agree with Daisy, pretty strange! Also wondered about whether this SHTFplan site is legit or just a set-up to see what we true patriots are thinking so as to stay one step ahead of us.
        NC-USA has the least supposedly FEMA sites. Always be prepared to move to the path of least resistance and most visual capability. Urban areas will be targeted first because the sheeple will be easiest to manipulate. This leaves more time for subversive action and group identification for the non-sheeple.
        Do not depend on 6 months of rations for sustainability as you may not get past one. Always be ready to be mobile as it is a lot harder to corner a moving object.
        Remember…this is you against them…and they don’t care!

        • no, he may veto it because it may make HIM an enemy combatant!!

      91. This may be a ploy to get the democrats reelected, this bill was crafted by Mc Cain a republican .I have seen photos of the camps and they are real.

        “After America, There is No Place to Go”
        It sounds as though America is walking in the same path, slowly but surely!!!
        Sharing what was shared with me.

        This is a very interesting account of life under Hitler.. How can we prevent it from happening here?

        “After America, There is No Place to Go”By: Kitty Werthmann

        What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

        I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide – 98% of the vote. I’ve never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.

        In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs. My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people – about 30 daily.

        The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna, Linz and Graz were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.

        We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group — Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria . We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.

        Full article

        Please forward this message to other voters who may not have it.

        When the people fear their government there is tyranny.
        When the government fears the people there is liberty.
        Thomas Jefferson

        **ADMIN EDIT: Article shortened and direct link added. **

      92. What if the facilities are designed to house (not detain) people in the event of an emergency, like, say, the complete deterioriation of the U.S. Dollar, which could lead to large numbers of destitute homeless people? I didn’t notice in the list of procurement specifications any items like fences, locks, alarms, etc. Just wondering if everyone is jumping to the conclusion that these are concentration camps rather than homeless shelters.

        • Barricades? For keeping people in or out? Maybe it’s a gov’t run retirement facility, and the barricades are for keeping out the un-desirables?

        • Questioner, this is what I believe is in the development stage. FEMA has classified disasters into numerous categories…these categories go beyond a weather-related incident or a terr’ist incident.

          Think Great Depression. Think collapse of the USD. Each of these could be classified as a disaster. Once “collapse,” ie “disaster”, becomes Federally-declared, the game changes. All sorts of play-money can go EVERYWHERE a disaster would be declared. And through a Federally-declared disaster, the chain of command changes. As do many other things.

      93. Group in charge of handling emergency situation –

        failing in handling bodies during situation, mass containers and graves on hand.

        uncharted debt to a sizable nation, centers for enemies during a invasion.

        whether we deserve it our not we will always defend our life, The bill to detain without question those foreign and domestic.

        None of this should be looked on as being aimed at us, although it certainly is in place if need be.

        Even if that comes to be, finally something worth dying for. Your personal freedom and doing your part and honoring this gift of life by sustainable population.

      94. This chilling video tells the story of the Weather Underground’s plans for detention camps. They have not changed their plans only the vehicle in which they will carry them out. They have the power to achieve this from within now.

        • Bill Ayers and his wife were leaders in this organization that carried out terrorist attacks. One was a bombing of a police station. Why aren’t these people spending the rest of their lives in prison? Bill Ayers and his wife were also neighbors and very close friends of the Obamas. You do the math.

      95. I tried to post, Said I was posting too quickly slow down.??????? Anyway we could speculate forever as to what is going on. They know and it is big. There are forces of good and evil in this world. Do we give up? NO be prepared and stay strong. Keep your belief whatever that is. We will do the absolute best we can and stay with like minded people. Things have happened one after another but particularly this year. At times it almost takes my breath away.I think the Middle East will blow up, Iran and all. There is talk of China nd Russia being involved. Mayby nuculear or EMP which would send us to the cavemen. Dead within a year or less. I guess we will find out. Obama had more than one trip to Colorado in Sept.and Oct. for drills? They know. Look at some of the pictures of him. Just a nice guy with a sense of humor. Others I see the evil just shows in his eyes and smile.

      96. Hats of to all the patriots expressing themselves here, but a word of caution: Please don’t communicate with each other directly except to exchange phone numbers via email, preferably public phones or prepaid (as in cash) cell phones. The NSA electronically filters all email and web posts. Organization is going to have to be done locally, mostly face-to-face, without electronic media: all of it is monitored by computers these days. Please organize, but don’t make it easy for them to stop you, spy on you, or infiltrate you. God bless America and all the Good People of this country.


        AIKENS, J. (Supreme Court of Vermont) delivered the opinion of the Court:
        The doctrine that all powers are originally in the government, and that the people by their charters and their constitutions have abridged and limited those powers, is fit only for those countries where the ignorance of the people is the weapon by which lawless power maintains her throne. The axiom, that the sovereignty is in the people, is a political truth, on which every free and rational government is founded. BATES v. KIMBALL, 2 D.Chip. 77 (1824)(1). [The whole world is governed by law. Are you suspicious why Americans are so ignorant of the Law? ]

        OPINION, FOX, Chief Judge (U.S. District Court of Michigan): A mere statement of this fact may not seem very significant; corporations, after all, are not supposed to exercise the governmental powers with which the Bill of Rights was concerned. But this has been radically changed by the emergence of the public-private state. Today private institutions do exercise governmental power; more, indeed, than ‘government’ itself … . We have two governments in America, then-one under the Constitution and a much greater one not under the Constitution. In short, the inapplicability of our Bill of Rights is one of the crucial facts of American life today.” MILOSZEWSKI v. SEARS ROEBUCK, 346 F.Supp. 119 (1972)(2). [Outside = 100% private authority. 18 USC 2381-85 Treason – Sedition.]
        All inferior courts MUST obey Supreme Court Case Laws. Why don’t they?

        You can sometimes learn a great deal from nature. A red ant will sting a human to protect the hive, knowing full well that the sting will cost him his life. Like red ants, we are comparatively powerless against a better equipped, better organized foe. We must resist the temptation to engage where the Fed has an advantage. Even if successful, clashes with police and Federal agents can never be parlayed into a political victory… the only kind of victory will make a difference. For political victory, concern yourself strictly with political targets… fortune 500 CEO’s and dual national politicians should top every list. HINT: It is illegal to hold dual citizenships with the United States and any other country with the exception of one particular country.

        Don’t organize. The only groups the Feds cannot possibly infiltrate are groups of one. If your group contains people you haven’t known your whole life, you’re probably infiltrated. Remember, the Fed’s favorite trick in the book is to lead the opposition. Ward off government infiltration by not being susceptible.

      99. someone explain this, we’re living in a world where several countries including America that are about to go under financially, if that happends, our military and government workers will not be paid or will get an IOU, how long does anyone think people are going to show up for work while their own family is starving or at the risk of being hurt or killed by the looters? most national Guard members have a day job if they still have a job, they live right next door to all of us, does anyone think my NG member neighbor is going to come over and march us off to some camp? I don’t doubt anything, but many things being said have to be thought out better. We’ve gotten a lot smarter since the Third Reich days so I just can’t see thousands of people being herding up and taken to a camp in cattle cars, even the protesters that were arrested in the past few months went along peacefully, but that will not go on for ever, take NYC for example, there are thirty five thousand cops, nine million people, when those nine million people get poed and hungry, the 35 thou cops will be like two mosquitos attacking a bat. Even go up to a larger scale, over a million LEO and 300 hundred million people. LEO will not mean much when people get hungry, I know it worked in Germany and other country yrs ago, but I just can’t see it happening here.

      100. the survivor: We’re already under financially. People get paid and will continue to get paid because the Fed is printing money. The US currency was expanded by 20% in 2011 alone. We’re not looking at sudden death. It’s more like death by a thousand cuts, as more and more currency is chasing fewer and fewer goods. It’s like being busted out by Tony Soprano, only the mobsters aren’t Italians but Jews, working for the Fed.

      101. The only hope we have as a country is if Ron Paul gets elected as an independent. The ruling Republican elite will not allow him to be their nominee. Therefore, we must all work to get him elected at a third-party candidate. We must all get behind him now!

        • Jack,
          The repubs and dems are all a part of the same problem and system. They have eliminated all third parties from presidential debates. That is one reason Ron Paul had to go repub. They are also redrawing elected districts to make repub districts more repub and dem dist. more dem. It’s all a plan to keep themselves in power and keep the ever growing third parties in their place. They see the the voters going more and more toward the third parties and have to put a stop to it.

      102. If they set off the New Madrid fault, they will have people eagerly volunteering to go to the FEMA camps.

      103. i’m ready to organize

      104. Thank the Lord for the U.S Marines!
        U.S. Navy Korean War veteran.

      105. For US Marines,

        You said something about wanting to “start a nation-wide legal Patriots group,” ready for anything…

        There already is such a group, here’s the website:

        It was started by Richard Van Waes and the roster of directors included Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely and other highly decorated, highly respected senior officers. Although retired, these gentlemen still have high level contacts and know what the government is up to. Their Patriotism is unquestioned. Check out the website of Veteran Defenders. They’re always looking for a few more good men as defenders against a tyrannical government. I look at them as kind of Oath Keepers on steroids!

      106. Preparing prospective victims to oppose the activation of those camps is hampered by the certainty that any patriot group will be monitored and infiltrated. The countermeasure is one-way coordination; set up a redundant central coordinating station that distributes information one way – externally, to anybody who is interested. This consists of background intelligence (camp layouts, transportation routes, schedules…) and suggested actions. The only information going INTO the sites – through proxies – will be intelligence and instructions for rebroadcast; there will be no database stored on the server that would be of any use to the badguys. Interested parties would visit the site through proxies to prevent back-tracing, and the site would stay up because of the authorities’ desire to monitor planning and their hope that they could use it to catch operators. Actual countermeasure planning and coordination would be done in small groups, meeting in person. Group-to-group coordination would be on an ad hoc basis and therefore very difficult to trace.

        And let’s not forget that infiltration works both ways. Halliburton is going to need lots of low-level new hires to staff these health resorts; I suggest that patriots having no “profile” with the authorities apply for work there. Of course the badguys will know this is happening, but who are the ringers? New hires will be at or near minimum wage, hence they will be entry level employees – young people with very little “background” to investigate, even if there were funds and time available for detailed background checks on them. Monitoring them after hire won’t help much; they’ll have their marching orders before they apply for jobs and will never again have personal contact with anybody else in the movement. They will communicate one-way through cell phones and/or the Net (using proxies), and it would look damn’ suspicious if any twenty-year-old new-hire did NOT have both those amenities. Let’s get cracking on this; we need intel from inside if any other part of the master plan is to work.

        First step is for local patriots in the areas where hiring is to occur “spotting” prospective patriotic infiltrators and encouraging them to apply.

      107. It has already happened! Look at what the NOPD and other agencies did during Katrina. Criminal groups were running around robbing, raping and murdering at will. Law enforcement was more concerned with detaining honest, law abiding citizens from there homes and forcing them into the super-dome. Why would you remove families from there homes if their safe and self sufficient? I would see them as an asset and less of a drain on an otherwise strained system. They also confiscated weapons illegally from people. They have shown us their hand and how they intend to play it.

      108. In a pig’s eye Obama is going to veto it.

      109. You guys realize that it’s pretty much a logistical impossibility to achieve such a mass-scale, multi-decade conspiracy, right?

      110. To “TrueWWIIHistory” and all others in denial:

        I know for a fact that the “camps” built and run by the Nazi’s murdered Jews en masse and that they used gas chambers and ovens for their crimes. The reason I am so certain of this is that my Father in Law was a tank commander in WWII and he participated in the liberation of one of the death camps.

        If you are a muslim, I know why you would make such comments for muslims are liars and murderers themselves. If you are not muslim then you have no excuse for spewing your insane propaganda here.

        • well said mike.

      111. It is time for all good men to come to the aid of thier country!!!!

      112. I am certain that this administration, is intentionally pushing U.S. toward revolt. Regardless of which way the election goes, there will be dissent, at that point the usurper will declare martial law and the election will become moot. He will never give up the seat, that is why he is so smug and arrogant! US Marine knows what needs to be done and how to accomplish it, I’m sure there will be collateral damage but that is to be expected. I wish I knew “Who” in my area to trust, I think those “camps” may also be for returning armed forces personal, they are going to need friends on the outside.

      113. Why isn’t this cited? I want to follow a link to a reputable website that demonstrates that FEMA and other govenrment organizations are doing what this articles says. Cite your sources please.

      114. obuma threatened to veto the bill,IF IT DOES NOT GIVE HIM THE POWER HE WANTS!!!!He wants supreme power.Don’t be sucked in by double talk.

      115. They can’t use gas chambers on us. The liberal left environmentalists would disapprove of all the pollution. They will hook us all up to gerbil treadmills to power those wind turbines that don’t work.

        Also, the reason Obama doesn’t allow that pipeline to be built to bring in Canadian oil, or to drill here in America, is because oil is too expensive. If we did all that we would have expensive oil just sitting around since no one could afford to buy it. (WTF did I just say?) Hell, I sound just like a

      116. WOW!!! This is the most ridiculous, unsubstantiated, paranoid crap I have ever read….. Do you people not know that these types of websites exist to SELL stuff!!! People this stupid should be locked up in “FEMA detention camps” LOLOLOL

      117. Totally agree Jack. Ron Paul is the only hope to turn this around. Hopefully a strong showing in Iowa will put him on the map with the rest of the country. Banking on Gingrich shooting himself in the foot.

        Ron Paul 2012!

      118. gmail has been compromised completely (do a search on that on any site except google)and yes the sheep of the USA are asleep they rather stick their heads in the sand than see reality .the bankers have wrecked the usa and relocated their investments else where and the people who are occupying this and that place have no clue who they are even protesting …lack of organization and comms are the problem whos gonna be the superman to step up and do this?

      119. It’s ok everyone; Obama is going to take care of us! Right?? Eh….

      120. If you want to hit greedy bastards were it hurts buy silver. If only 1% of the global 99% bought just one ounce of silver then all hell would break out in the highly manipulated paper futures market. Silver has been sold 100 times over (like gold) and there simply isn’t enough to cover all theses bullshit contracts.

        Of course you could buy gold but silver is shit cheap.

        Silver is the canary in the mine, blow silver up and gold will follow, and then the entire corrupt market – the emperor has no clothes – game over.

        If you organize then you become a target and the recent “indefinite detention bill” will take care of that.

        Buying silver is benign, does not attract attention, and in the long run, a bloody good investment.

        Organized revolt does not scare the greedy bastards, they will always be safe high in their glass castles protected by government jackboots, but the thought of bringing down a highly corrupt and manipulated futures market will scare the shit out of them – truly.

        All it would take is a world wide purchasing promotion and a few facts and figures, which speak for themselves – do the research.

        So why not invest in revolution rather than fight a revolution. Fight fire with fire, and make a few bucks along the way.

        The worst that can happen is a lot of greedy bastards go broke, and your one ounce of silver multiples in price.

      121. I see alot of military posting on here. So what I am taking on this is you would back the citizens of the united states and not back the govt. Im very glad to hear that.

        • they will use fear to get people to go to the camps willingly. only one way i can see that happening. it will be a pandemic flu or something like it shut down communications and people will go to the camps like sheep. the nat guard will think the are doing good by protecting the people when they shoot any runners that might spead the virus. by the time people figure it out too late and check mate.

      122. Hey people, to Begin with, I am not into any kind of politics or anything of that nature … I just wanted to pass on some info., (that I am sure someone out there can tell you much more about, but I am just trying to give some help) to my, Fellow AMERICANS !!! … SEVERAL Months ago to a year, I THINK it was, a neighbor of mine (who does read and keep up with Governmental Issues) told me that he had just read (somewhere ?) that “Obama”, had just ordered Somewhere in the 10s of Thousands, of “Detainee Rules and Regulations” Handbooks !!! We could not begin to conceive a reasoning behind this at that time, maybe NOW I KNOW !!! If anyone out there does know what I am talking about, I think it would be Very Beneficial to all of the Obviously, “GOOD PEOPLE” that are speaking here today, to be MUCH better educated about this information!!! I personally probably won’t even know how to get back to this page (although I will save it and see if that works), but if I do and someone responds to my information, I will GLADLY try to remember more about that conversation, and share it with ALL !!! BUT, as I said before, I’m sure that at least one of you (intellectual) people on here (which I Clearly am not so much), are aware of what I am talking about, and ” I THINK “, it may very well be connected to this topic, and should be shared in Much more detail than what I have (attempted to contribute)!!!
        ” THE, WORRIED1 “

      123. 50 States? what group is Hawaii or Alaska in then?
        seems like 48 to me.

      124. So, if there is a Cascadia event, tens of thousands will be sheltered and fed. So this is a detention camp? When survivors of wild fire conflagrations, hurricanes, floods and earthquakes are put up in gymnasiums, fairgrounds and portable shelters, are these detention camps? What are you people drinking? Think rationally and use your noggins.

        Try volunteering in emergency management organizations in your communities and you will better be able to sift through the scary stuff and recognize what’s real and what’s not. When you train alongside the sheriff, in ARES and SAR, the mounted posse, your own state defense force (for ex-military retirees) and other mutual aid services you can find out and know exactly what the government is doing.

      125. God bless you brave men, all.
        God spared me from being fodder for our government during Viet Nam, but now with children and grandchildren to protect, this old boy will stand proudly as an American patriot in your ranks to ensure our Republic and Constitution survive.
        You Marines and other soldiers realize that Freedom isn’t free; blood has always been the required payment. Let’s pray to the Almighty it’s the tyrants blood and not ours.

      126. I will tell you this:
        This is being done in preparation to the collapse of the us dollar and its end of a world reserve currency.
        -US government allows 911 to happen!
        -Homeland security is created to protect the homeland!
        -Every few monts they scare people with stories about terrorists caught!
        -More and more security measures are implememented!
        -If the US Goverment really wanted to secure the homeland, they would have started by securing the mexico-us border, but it’s wide open, even with dozens of tunnels to smuggle drugs, weapons and who knows what else!
        -A few months ago, or last year Obama signed law about “capital controls” making it very difficult to take out money out of the USA, the government will keep 30% of the money!
        -The USA has no intention to pay back the national debt, nor the ability to pay it
        -If congress can’t even agree on cutting 1 trillion over 10 years when the deficit is about 1.5 trillion a year, and already reached 15 trillion, how will the us pay back the deficit?
        -Deficit is growing out of control! US borrows 40 cents per every dollar it spends!, already reaching 100% of gdp, that is the point of no return!
        -When foreign investors start dumping dollars , kind of panic selling, the US will face high inflation which will turn into hyperinflation
        -When this happens, there wont be food at the supermarkets, gas at $10.00 $20.00 a gallon
        -All the riots we see in Greece now, they will happen here, people will go crazy
        –When that happens the government will arrest people in masses and take them away, without trial, because it could be millions revolving against the government!
        -Every country that ran the printing press like we are, always ended badly, with hyperinflation and blood on the streets!

      127. Most of these camps don’t sound large enough to hold many people of a town or surrounding area in event of disaster or emergency. In those cases, people would be glad to be there and not need barbed wire to keep them inside. If not for the towns’ citizens in need then they’re to hold prisoners who they don’t want out running around. Perhaps people of nationalities that we will be at war with like happened to the Japanese here at one time? I don’t believe there is anything in my town or even very near. Not sure if that’s good or not. Maybe they don’t expect any of us to survive whatever they expect.

      128. People there is only one solution which can be implimented by you, the people of this country to change the federal governmental controls over your lives. You need a powerful origanization which you can influence. It is obvious that we the people cannot influence this current federal government. Its like trying to stop a runaway truck going downhill, with brakes designed for a car. It can’t be done, however, you can get the state government to oppose any law, rule, regulation, or policy that the federal government passes which violates the constitution. Tell them what you think , why you need their help to change the course of this country. Central government is out of control .The state governments are the only origanized force powerful enough to oppose the central government. MAke them your sword of justice and restore the great power of the constitution. and say no to any law which violates the constitution, So, if you want to redirect the destructive force , of the central governement , tell your state representatives, governors and state courts that you want your constutuional rights perserved against all agencies who try to violate your rights. Lets see how the federal government deals with ALL the states who say NO, NO MORE. This will not happen in my state.
        Now, lets say that YOUR STATE REFUSES to listen to your needs and respect the constitution, what answer does that send to you the citizen of this country? Think about it.
        Then you will finally have the answer, you will know exactly where you the people stand, hopefully it is not on quicksand, but on solid foundation supported by your state.
        Only one real way to find out. ask your state for help. Follow the example of Vermont and Some of the towns and cities in Maine. Read and become educated.. I am almost 70 and I tell all you young people out there, this country is yours, but you have to fight for it. Get your state to support your efforts, don’t be part of the PROBLEM, be the SOLUTION.

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